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M Martel Today's two. There's thousand twenty one coming up
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with Omarosa Managal Newman. She'll join us to discuss her
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Today Senate On Services Committee hearing, General Mark Billy laid
out ARCT Senator Tom Cotton. That ain't really hard to
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School's cotton on what it really means to serve the
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the u s could run out of money by next
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And today's craziest white person doesn't have a job because
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question though he's rolling Martell down hard folks are in
on Capitol Hill today. Uh here, the Joint Chief of Staff,
let's just say here, had a few words. It has
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to say the center of Tom Cotton. Okay, so they
have this here and talk about Afghanistan. Republicans outrage, and
Cotton was like, why didn't you resign over President Joe
Biden not taking your advice? This is how Nearly responded
General Milly. I can only conclude that your advice about
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staying in Afghanistan one was rejected. I'm shocked to learn
that your advice wasn't sought until August, staying past the
August thirty one deadline. I understand that you're the principal
military advisor that you advise. You don't decide. The president decides.
But if all this is true, General Milly, why haven't
you resigned? Center is a senior military officer. UM, resigning
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is a really serious thing. It's a political act. If
I'm resigning in protest, my job is to provide advice.
My statutory responsibility is provide legal advice or best military
advice to the president, and that's my legal requirement. That's
what the law is. UM. The president doesn't have to
agree with that advice. He doesn't have to make those
decisions just because we're generals, And it would be an
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incredible act of political defiance for commissioned officer to just
resign because my advice is not taking. This country doesn't
want generals figuring out what orders we're going to accept
and do or not. That's not our job. The principles
spin control of the military is absolute. It's critical to
this republic. In addition to that, just from a personal standpoint,
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you know, my my dad didn't get a choice to resign,
and Iwujima and those kids that are at Avy Gate,
they don't get a choice to resign, and I'm not
going to turn my back on them. I'm not going
to resign. They can't resign, so I'm not going to resign.
There's no way. If the orders are illegal, we're in
a different place. But if the orders are legal from
civilian authority, I intend to carry them out. Oh M,
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see that that's what happens when you have leaders. Teresa
Landi's principal foundler team mail communication, you have to Mustafa
Santi alga Alei, former Senior Biasor for the Environmental Justice
at the e PA, will be joined later by Alicia Cross. Um,
you know, Mustafa, it's so hilarious to look at listen
to these republic because you know, why didn't you resign?
It's like, dude, really really, I mean other presidents have
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made calls where the generals disagreed, this whole notion that oh,
whatever the general say, let's do. Uh, that's how we
screwed up Vietnam. Well, you know, General Millie is a
g and I mean that in every sense of the word.
You know, he understands what honor is, he understands what
respect is. He also understands his oath um, and many
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seem to be lacking on Capitol Hill and understanding their oath.
So to see a man who stands up, who understands
that he may be under fire, um, that the president
may disagree with his recommendations, that he's still going to
continue to stay in there. He's going to make sure
that he's supporting his troops. He's going to make sure
that he supports his country. Is what you expect out
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of a general, especially one that is not allowing politics
to actually dissuade him or lead him in a different direction. So,
you know, I have a lot of respect for General Milly.
I know it's not an easy position that he's in,
and he's going to make mistakes like everyone else, but
you have to you have to give it up to
a person who stands on their principle and is willing
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to stand in the fray. You know it is. It
really is hilarious to watch Republicans repeatedly, um Teresa, try
this little silly game of how dare you disagree with
the general's when the fact of the matter is we
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elect a president to be the commander in chief. That's
what it's all about. Republicans are a real good uh
at then when they disagree with an action that all
of a sudden, how dare you? It's very interesting because
the Republicans talking points is all about doing the constitution,
following the laws of the land. But when it is
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in the reverse, you always seem to hear them you're
not on the right track or it's not a part
of the agenda. So not only is it funny, I
find it, you know, kind of disheartening, just even as
an American as we pay your tax dollars into the system,
because if we're not listening to the right uh stance
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of government as it relates to some of these foreign issues. UM,
then I think we're in a very difficult place. So
Republicans will continue to um allow themselves to um act
like they are the knowl's of situations versus trying to
actually figure out a plan of action so we can
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get to a better place. It's just it just it
is repeated. It's just repeated the game that they play,
and and and and and just how how nonsensical it is.
It's just like its whole issue over the debt relief,
your Secretary Jenny Yellen who says we are going to
run out of money next month because of Republicans choosing
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not to vote to increase the increase the debt ceiling. Now, remember,
let me say this slowly, folks, during the presidency of
Donald Trump, Republicans added eight billion dollars to the I'm sorry,
eight trillion dollars to the federal deficit eight t R
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I L L I O N. When they need to
raise the debt ceiling, did the Democrats go, no, you
do it. No, they said, America has never defaulted and
we won't. But now that your mccons saying hell no,
do you want to raise it do without us. This
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is what Chuck Schumer said, Flokings really want to see
the debt ceiling raised without providing a single vote. I'm
prepared to hold that vote. Leader McConnell today acknowledged addressing
the debt limit is an urgent matter, but it's his
party that's standing in the way of a quick resolution.
This could get done today. Same thing, Teresa. Uh. And
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this is what I keep saying to Democrats, y'all trying
to play by the rules. They ain't playing by rules.
They playing hardball, and so if you don't respond, m come,
you're gonna get rolled. And that's exactly what we're seeing here.
I think if we had came with a stronger position, um,
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you know, and really started to put the agenda and
allocated the funds where they needed to go and when
we had power, we should do it. I don't see
what the whole back is, but I'm sure there's a
lot of you know, areas that we are not saying.
But I think overall, the goal was to make sure
that we do not default the goals, to make sure
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that the budget allocation um is right and it's fitted
for our country, because again, you know, when Donald Trump
was in office, there was no scale to how much
the country was spending. Uh. And now that he's out,
it's it's it's almost like it's going into Biden's administration.
So I think they never really got their hands around it.
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And of course the time is really running out here
in order for a decision to be made. Uh. And
and here's the whole piece. So all right, now, Democrats,
you got fifty votes, Take a vote, and if Mansion
and Cinema somebody else is not to vote, guess what,
blame them. That's exactly right. You know, it's amazing. You know,
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we voted for many Democrats because we believed in what
o'biden's vision was for the country. And to have you know,
a couple of folks, we might as well just call
their names out, Senator Cinema and Senator Mansion to not
get on board and do the right things which actually
helps to protect our country in so many different ways. Um.
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You know, it seems a very clear sign about where
their allegiances may actually lie. You know, if you allow
the country to default, I want everybody just think about
how you maybe over time, have taken a hit to
your credit and how it costs you more for everything
in your life because of your credit being impacted. It's
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the same thing for countries. If you default, then that
means that you are going to have a lower credit rating,
and then you are going to end up paying more
for everything. And then it also does a number of
different other things on the international scale as well, where
folks can no longer trust your currency and no folks
can no longer trust of the things that you're saying.
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So there are all these ripple effects that Republicans understand
very well, and they understand they didn't want that to
happen under Donald Trump, and that's the reason that they
gave him a blank check for everything that he introduced.
And it's also the reason why they are trying to,
as I often say, hit Biden with a you know,
a thousand cuts to weaken him because he has an
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economy right now that that's moving along. So they've got
to figure out a way to get something to be
able to talk about in the mid terms that will
resonate with everyday, hard working people, and that means you
got to impact the economy. So here's a deal. Government
funding expires on Thursday. Uh and what I keep keep
saying to people is, uh, we see the game that
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they're gonna play. Um this you know, this is what
this is what they do. Uh and so uh, you
got the fifty votes, use them. See see this is
where I'm sorry, where you're matching our cinema. Y'all keep
talking about biparltisanship by partisanship. If if these podcast Republicans
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won't even vote to increase the dead Sailing, they were
never going to vote for the George Ford Justice Act.
You're never going to find ten Republicans to support for
the People Act. You're they don't exist. It is a
phantom notion that you can find ten Republicans to go
along with one of those measures. Yeah, people are still
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playing politics up there, and they're really not thinking strategically rolling.
You've been saying that from the beginning that you know,
if the votes are there, then we should use them.
And if the votes aren't there, it's it's almost like
we're beating um the horn, you know, continuously with no response.
So you know, again there we don't want the government
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to run out of money. But again, we have to
use the power that we have as Democrats and those
that we voted into office. We expect them to to
do um the right thing, especially as released in our country.
All right, folks, let's talk about doing the right thing. Uh.
You know, Donald Trump, we all know he lost, even
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though he refuses to accept that he got his ass whooped. Uh, well,
guess what when you get checked out of public housing
like he did, that means you lost. No, you didn't win.
And he keeps losing. They lost in court numerous times
when it came to again his lying claims about him
winning the election and it being rigged. It wasn't. It
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was a lie. It was a big gass Live Now
he loses again. Remember all the names that he called
his former aide on Morosa Managald Newman. Well, this whole
issue about this non disclosure agreement. So he required all
of the people work on this campaign South India's the fool.
Even had the people in the White House aide India's
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y'all there, tax per funded you. You can't do that,
So s they went to arbitration. Well, then arbitrator agreed
with omar Rosa with her argument that the non disclosure
agreement she signed while working for Trump campaign is invalid
under New York contract law. M hmmm. He sued her
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after she released her book Unhinged and Inside his account
of the Trump White House. Well, she joins, is right
now from Jacksonville, Florida. Omarrossa, glad to have you here.
In addition to winning, the campaign has to pay your
legal fees, yesp do. They have to pay my legal
fees and all costs as well. So it's quite a victory,
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but also a victory for all the other staffers who
have been gagged and who have been silenced and not
able to share what they've experienced during their time in
the White House or on his campaign. So because this
arbitrator is ruling. So if anyone else who signed again
India's with the campaign, um, are they are they not
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free to talk? Or he just tried to suthe them
and then forced all of them to go to an
individual arbitrator as well. Yes, certainly, UM. Because of this decision,
which is a bit groundbreaking, UM, it basically throws out
his n d A as it relates to the campaign
as well as to the White House. As you said,
it's unprecedented that he had White House staffers UM signed
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n d as, but particularly with these NDAs that He's
used the same template, by the way, for years, and
the arbitrator said it was just too ambiguous and too vague,
and um, he threw it out. So anyone else who
finds himself being sued by Donald Trump like I have,
UM will be face to face with him. And he
has already taken an l in this area and they
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probably would be victorious. So UM. Clearly UM, his his
camp not particularly happy. Uh that uh that that he
lasst uh and he called you all sorts of names.
After your book came out. He actually gave a statement,
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which I'm so glad that most of these newspapers have
decided not to print the statement. He gave a statement
um this morning in response to the decision, and it
said nothing about his loss. He only attacked me and
my character and wished me great failure in my life forever.
It was just bizarre. And I'm just grateful that he
doesn't have Twitter, because I'm sure he would have continued
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with the insults and the name calling. Oh I didn't
even realize. Uh, the the idiots sent out a statement.
Uh uh and so so let's see here is it's uh,
let's see here. The only publication that printed it was
the Hill And so first let's just be clear the
heel is the heel is a right wing outlet. Uh.
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That they That's what they are. Uh. And you know
the the you know, the the guy who owned it.
They what he was trying to do deals, you know
with them. So let's just be real clear in terms
of what they are. They are neat in Oregon. And yeah, right,
I mean, he's pissed off that he doesn't have Twitter
to attack people, and then the press breathlessly reports everything
that he says, aiding and abetting whatever he wants to do. Well,
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I think the biggest I think injury to his followers
is this was the campaign that suited me. So all
of those individuals giving donations to Donald Trump and going
out to his rally and buying all of his items
to support his funding. The money to reimburse my attorney
for my legal fees and all my costs, which is
well into the seven figures, are going to come from
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those little dollar donors who have supported Donald Trump. And
he continues this grift, he continues to take from these followers,
acting as if he's going to support them or try
to improve their lives. Instead he's just utilizing it to
fund all of these frivolous lawsuits. And so the sad
part is all of that money that he's about to
pay me is coming from his supporters and from donors
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who have tried to, you know, further his political career.
And and and that's really what is that whole thing
a grift is And uh, they're just funding his stupidity.
Uh And and I said, and I don't care if
you're a mega person giving my Donald Trump, you're stupid
as well, because this dude is playing you like he
played folks from day one. Yes, but I have one
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more lawsuit left. Donald Trump utilized the Justice Department to
go after me and another unprecedent lawsuits, so I'm still
facing legal situation with him. He decided to sue me
for a document um that I attempted to file. Of course,
he blocked me from filing and then sued me. And
under this particular act, only two people in the history
of the Act in twenty years have been brought up
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and the largest fee that they've ever seen has been
about dollars. Donald Trump has asked that they find me
sixty thousand dollars for a late form essentially, which would
equate to about a fine. But again, he is utilizing
the government to go after his political rivals. And so
hopefully very soon, um, the Justice Department will make a
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ruling about that of a list lawsuit as well. And obviously, um,
his what is amazing is that, uh, what he did
in that case just share silence from Republicans who clearly
had no problem with him using the authority of the
Justice Department, uh to attack people he didn't like. Yeah,
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you know, there's so many lawsuits that he filed while president,
and he asked the a G at that time to
go after all of the individuals who decided to speak
out to shine some light on the wrong doing, who
decided to be a whistleblower. And so yes, he used
Justice Apartment attorneys, he used Justice Department resources, and um,
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it's unprecedented. So I'm expecting that that decision will come
in the next couple of months, and then once that's done,
i can focus on my future, focus on law school
and continue the work that I'm doing here in Jacksonville.
So do you actually last question here? Obviously he's holding
his rallies. Uh, do you think that he definitely plans
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on running in four Well, that's if his health holds up.
I mean, Donald Trump has had problems with his health
for years. He even in the White House hid you know,
some of the hard conditions that he had and heart issues.
The doctors never told the truth about those issues. And
I think that the stress and the strain of of
being on a political campaign, on a presidential campaign, can
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really wear on him. I think he desires to, but
I don't know that he has um the health or
even the mental agility to do it again. And Roland,
I just want to quickly shout out my legal team
was made up of four people, three of which were
African Americans, So Joey Jackson who I know, you know,
um Jay Wendell Gordon and Erica Jackson who was also
a Southern University graduate HBCU grad, and then of course
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John Phillip Salvage Jacksonville. So I had a great team,
but predominantly African American teams that defeated Donald Trump in
this arbitration. All right, on, appreciate it, thanks a lot, thanks, Roland.
Take care to bring my panel here, uh Mishia cross
Jones this right now in tersa London and Mustafa Santiago
Ali Asia. Uh, there's nothing better than seeing Donald Trump
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keep taking else. I absolutely agree, Roland. I think that
there was an assumption, at least from Trump camp, that
once he left presidential office, a lot of a lot
of his wrongdoings and misgivings would be swept under the
rug that he had beaten a lot of the things
that he was accused of, and thus far, we're just
not seeing that happen. It gets deeper and deeper every
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single day he's not able to run away from um,
the tragic misgivings and the the idea that he had
he was going to steal the election, the workings he
did around that, the legal things that he did at
the at the head of the Trump organization. There's so
much when it comes to chickens coming home to roost
for Donald Trump, that this is just the beginning of
what I think will be very long process of unraveling
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for the former president. You know, I just it's it's
the loss after loss after loss, and the thing that's
a trip must off. He's always threatening. He threatens everybody,
and it's kind of like, dude, you're a loser. You're
a loser. You can call Joe. Joe Biden is sleepy
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all day. He can't pay from his basement. He must
have whoop you add from his basement. Yeah, it's amazing.
Donald Trump is like an old journeyman uh boxer who
just keeps getting hitting the head and then the gut
and keeps wanting to go forward, thinking them one day
he could be Champ. Well, you can't be Champ when
you keep getting all these elves. I'm sorry, this is
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not a rocky movie. And you know, Donald Trump is
used to be in a bully. He's used to beating
up on people who he thinks doesn't have power. And
because he thinks they don't have power, he uses those
n d A s and other legal sort of ways
of kind of jacking people up. But you know time
is up. You know you no longer can do that
type of stuff. So whether it's New York State coming
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for you, or the Feds coming for you, or a
number of other bad business deals where people are now
coming for you, you know you're going to keep taking
else So you should just go ahead and sit down
and fade off into the sunset um, because if you
keep trying to get back up folks gonna keep knocking
you down. This is why Teresa as the most oppo said,
when you're dealing with a bully, your punch a bully
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in the face. Yeah. And I think you know I'm
a Rosa's account of her history and the many others
that uh written books and has done talks about their
uh what's going on in the White House under Trump? Um. Again,
this is a history breaking moment, and I believe that
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there's gonna be a lot more wins coming from individuals, um,
consultants and even staffers. Um. And I do think it's
a one for everyone else. I mean because those who
have worked on political campaigns know that there is a
lot of stress. There is a lot of inside moves
that sometimes you can talk about and sometimes you can't.
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And so you just really have to make those strategic
decisions with the candidate that you ultimately choose. So, um,
it is what it is. I think Donald Trump probably
needs to find a new law firm, or maybe he
should just stop trying to sue people since it's not
looking dead. Keep bullying folks, then you're gonna get you
behind who y'all gotta go to break? We come back
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on rolling Martin Unfiltered. We'll talk about a case out
of Tennessee where fans are going after a state senator there.
They hit it with twenty charges fifteen and I've been
thrown out. We'll talk about that with the heir of
the National Bar Association, and they hit the Memphis a
c P. Also sentor Tim Scott. Oh, he was quite
busy on the Sunday shows blasting Democrats for walking away
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from the table and not negotiating fairly and try to
deepund the police. So why are two major police unions
saying that's a lie? And also, y'all remember I'll tell
you yesterday when when Tim Scott uh was making a
point about how Democrats wanted to with whole funds, so
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therefore he called that defund the police. Why did he
said the exact same thing a year ago. Yes, I'll
be exposing the lying hypocrisy of South Carolina Centator Tim Scott,
my Roland Martin, Unfiltered, and the Black Star Network after
this break, I believe that people are aides have lost
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and we need to be moving to address them. But
I'm able to say, watch out, I know this road
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zero zero. All right, folks, let's talk about the story
that's out of the state of to see. A state
senator there was hit with twenty federal charges UH regarding
the use of funds for nonprofit twenty charges. Well, the
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trial is still ongoing, but the judge has already thrown
out fifteen of the twenty charges against State Senator Katrina Robinson.
She's accused of using six hundred thousand dollars in federal
funds granted to her healthcare school for personal expenses. Robertson's
attorneys argued that the prosecutor's financial analysis of her documents
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was flawed. She is still on trial, as I say,
for the remaining five charges. Van Turner, attorney for the
president of the ahis L c p U, joins us
from Memphis and also Judge calls More, President the National
Bar Association, Joseph as well. I'm glad to have you both.
I'll start with you Van Um your course again with
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the A c P there attorney as well. Uh, and
so doesn't say that it does not bode well for
for federal authorities when the judge throws out nearly nearly
the entire case fifteen twenty charges before it's even done. Yeah,
I would agree. And so a large part of as
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you stated, the claims have been thrown out. What was
um say, a figure of six hundred thousand dollars that
they say was defrauded and and you know, unlawfully taken
has now the went on down too. I think less
than about five thousand dollars and so, um, I was
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actually in court for a little bit today. But uh,
you know, we still have those five claims to deal with,
and I think a lot of those claims deal with
reporting and not necessarily fraud. So these are sort of
civil claims, uh and not criminal claims. And so hopefully,
uh the jury will kind of sift through all of
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what's going on, and uh, you know, if there's a
civil fine to be paid, let they be paid. But
allows Senator Robinson to return back to what she was doing,
and that's really putting qualified healthcare workers into the workforce,
which are sore, which are are so sorely needed right
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now during this COVID nineteen pandemic crisis. Add her using
the money for accusing her using the money for her wedding,
a GEP for her daughter, hand baths and other items. Yeah.
So essentially, uh, what Senator Robinson had was a a
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teaching center for nurses and uh then these students would
pay a tuition and that was the bulk of what
the institute received. And then she received a federal grant
which was a stipend or a scholarship that would used
to phrase on the costs. So Essentially, UM, the bulk
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of what she UH profited from was from the tuition
payments UH paid by the students and not necessarily from
the government. And so I think that's been her argument
throughout the trial. And essentially, you know, once you make
a profit, you can do with that profit what you
want to do with it. And so as long as
she was not taken away from the students, as long
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as the students were still being educated and getting they
paid for, there was no issue. And so if she
wanted to, you know, buy nice things or do nice things,
as long as she was not too far in the
federal government, as long as she was taken care of
her students, there should not have been a problem. Carlos,
what do you make of the prosecutors going after uh
(34:19):
this uh New Tennessee State cenator. I believe they were
going after her because she's a black woman that's powerful.
We have seen this time and time again when black women,
especially black women get power in this country, they are targeted.
And we believe sant Robinson was targeted just like some
of these prosecutors in St. Louis and other places. I've
been targeted. Marilyn Mosby in Baltimore. They are consistently targeted
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in it. As the president of the National Bar Association,
I am that set on standing up for these women. So, um,
the judge issue that or ruling on Monday. The trial
resumed today. Um, how long you think this is? This
is going to go on? And do you think that
throwing out for team the twenty bodes well for her
(35:04):
uh to be acquitted on the file five charges. Yeah,
you know it's hard to tell. You can't read the
minds of a jury. I'm sure Attorney Moore would tell
you when you start trying to read the minds of
juries jurors, you always uh can can mess up. However,
I think this is a good side for Senator Robinson.
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She has a very good legal team that's working with her.
And essentially the state has uh, the the federal government
has rested and so uh today was the first day
that Senator Robinson took the stand. So the defense is
now presenting its case in chief and so Roland, what
you have was after the state presented their case, it
(35:46):
took about a week, the defendants or the representatives of
Senator Robinson moved for a directed verdict to say the
state has not proven their case, and they moved for
acquittal on all twenty accounts UH Schlippman, who is the
federal judge here uhcided with UH Senator Robinson and dismissed
or acquitted her of the fifteen charges out of the
(36:10):
twenty charges, so that five charges still remained, and so
Senator Robinson again took the stand. Today was the first
day of her taking the stand to defend against those
five counts, and at the end of the day, the
dismissal or the acquittal of those fifteen counts reduced that
amount of money UH in contention from six hundred thousand
(36:31):
down to you know, closer probably around five thousand dollars
or so. So that was a huge moved by the judge,
unprecedented actually, and I think that probably ends up voting
very well for Senator Robinson and her defense comment. Yes,
I agree that that should vote well for santle Robinson
(36:51):
as attorney turned to state that we can never read
the minds of the jurals, but I would take comfort
in that fifteen of the twenty charges have been UH
dis means basically by the judge, and that sends a resound,
resounding message to the prosecution to the government. All right, then, gentlemen,
I still appreciate it. Thank you very much for joining us.
Thank you. Uh. This is one of the things that uh,
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and we've talked about this many times before, Mustapha, Teresa
as well as Amsha that when you were a black
elected official and when you anything that you're doing with
the use of federal funds, I mean you better make
sure every eye dotted t crossed because we've seen how
how they have targeted uh and gone after and frankly
(37:36):
convicted African American elected officials uh for for things along
those lines. Uh. And so uh, you know, I would
say that any any black politician, hey, always have your stuff, paperwork,
everything in order, because we we know how this has
ended too often for a lot of African Americans in
(37:58):
the past. You're absolutely right. Look, I'm in the Commonwealth
of Pennsylvania, and the amount of elected officials from local,
state and federal UM have been accused and convicted. UM.
We either have an over zealous prosecutor or we just
have individuals who don't have the right finance compliance manager
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and that person will get a you know, especially a
black elected official in trouble or the hold that information
why they're a candidate and wait until they're elected to
make sure it's it's brought up in the spotlight. So
I think again, if if we gotta make sure we
put the right people in place first and foremost, But two,
you know we have to have the right compliance manager,
(38:42):
especially if accounting and and and I guess providing some
of these documents to the FBC or or to the
state compliance is not your specialty. Well, we always know
that black elected officials are always in hard arms way
and there is a double standard. So what I share
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with folks is one, make sure that you always have
a great attorney and have a great accountant. That accountant
can help you to make sure there's no co mingling
of funds or that there are any improprieties that folks
will use against you, because folks are looking for something.
I know at least of a handful of black elected
officials that I know personally who have had to utilize
(39:25):
a huge amount of money to defend themselves just to
be proven innocent. Now, let's let's also just count that
by pointing out that there are folks on Capitol Hill
right now who actually made huge amounts of money because
of their inside or trading knowledge. You know, around COVID
nineteen and and there are sets of investments that still
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haven't been brought to justice. But of course we know
when you have a darker hue, if that situation had
gone on, it will be a different situation. And we
know that many of our brothers and sisters who are
in office are in the crosshairs because there are those
don't want them to have the power to be able
to do the right things. So you gotta keep your
game tight. Uh, and so we were certainly waiting to
(40:08):
see what happens in this case. But again, when we're
when you're dealing with these user attorneys and somewhere should
be asking questions of this prosecutor a misha, you take
someone the court twiny charters in hell, they throw up
fifteen the twin before the trial is even over. He
got one, and they think the party got what they
(40:29):
wanted out at this um. It was used to take
the waters to throw sharks in the water, because at
the end of the day, we have an elected official
who is doing what the majority of the state of
Tennessee is not. We have to remember that Tennessee with
the with the substitution of Nashville and Memphis is by
and large a very red state. So when you have
a representative who was out there doing what she needs
(40:49):
to do, trying to get people um the health care
access that they deserve, trying to ensure that those who
need the COVID nineteen vaccine the most, those who look
like you, I, and everyone on this panel are going
to at that level of access, training and ensuring that
funding goes to nurses and this new wave of health
care officials that represented the communities they serve. That's not
necessarily something that the Tennessee General Assembly or the Governor
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of Tennessee actually wants to see happen. So they're doing
this to basically throw the sharks in the water, raise
a level of ire about this woman, to diminish her
in the role that she's doing and the good work
that she's doing on the ground. They came at her
knowing that much of this was much ado to much
ado about nothing. But it doesn't matter once you've already
created this, uh, this aura about an elected official who
(41:34):
just happened to see black woman, a newly elected official,
and the fact that they are consistently saying that she
is using um, she is using money illegally to benefit
and profit herself. That's what they ran through the tabloids
across Tennessee. That's what they ran in the Tennessee, in
the newspaper of the state of Tennessee, the newspaper out
of Nashville, That's what they ran in several publications across
(41:55):
the state, and all major media across the state as well.
This has been in the water for a long time.
They got what they wanted out of it. It wasn't
necessarily fully about prosecution as much as it was diminishing
her and ensuring that it would be a tough road
to hold when it came to her having a name
that was clean. All right, then, all right, folks, uh
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because Saron, Tim Scott, Senator Corey Booker, as well as
uh Car Womancaren Bass, they couldn't come to an agreement.
Scott spent lots of time on the Sunday shows Fox
News Face the Nation blasting Democrats, saying it's their fault.
They walked away. So here's what he said on Face
(46:54):
the Nation talking to Margaret Brennan. He was talking about
who caused the problem? Who caused the problem, and he
was he was it was, it was real. It was
interesting because we played this there's too many clip yesterday.
And the reason I thought it was very interesting um
(47:17):
as he was talking uh to them because you know,
he was real clear it was you know, it was
they were sitting here and they were trying to defund
the police, and and and it was just they were
just wrong and and and how dare they? And it
was it was their fault. And then it was you
(47:39):
know center queer. Booker, he just they they walked away
from the table twice. I mean, he was saying all
of those things. M really is that what really happened?
So here's what we played yesterday. I want you to
watch this, but I want you to listen. Okay, listen
(48:04):
to this, Corey Booker, who was your partner in this?
I mean, this started on the Trump administration, continued on
the Biden ministry exactly one Republicans and control went nowhere
Democrats and control it's going nowhere. But both times the
person the folks that left the table where the Democrats.
Let's just be clear that we have stayed at the table.
The Justice Hede provided clear direction to improve the quality
(48:27):
of the experience for the communities at risk and the
law enforcement officers who patrol those areas. So if you're
still at the table, was the issue that you just
couldn't deliver Republican votes? Absolutely not what central book are
proposed to you with what he has described. Once again,
the fact is that last time around, we gave them
twenty amendments to change the bill in any way they
(48:48):
wanted to. This time we said simply this, I am
not going to participate in reducing funding for the police.
After we saw a major city after major city to
fund the police. Many provisions in this bill that he
wanted me to agree to limited or reduced funding for
the police. That's a losing that's a lose that's a
(49:08):
lose lose proposition. When you reduce funding for police, you
actually lose lives in the communities. Our approach was a
win win approach. We want the best wearing the badge
and we want the vulnerable protected. So when you tie
funding losses in this legislation, you should expect an allergic
reaction from me. But they would say and center. Booker's
(49:32):
team has said publicly in interviews he's done that there
wasn't a net loss of funding. In fact, there was
funding being increased in terms of increased mental health funding,
specifically that there were specific programs for recruitment and training.
Funding increases body warned camera funding, increases data collection. So
that's not cutting funding, it's might be allocating it in
(49:54):
different ways. Actually, here's what we know. We have about
a billion dollars in grant money that goes to police.
When you start saying in order to receive those dollars,
you must do a B and C. And if you
don't do a B and C, you literally lose eligibility
for the two major pots of money, the burned grants
and the cop grants. When you tell local law enforcement
(50:15):
agencies that you are ineligible for money, that's defunding the police.
There's no way to spend that. You can spend it
by saying you can let me, let me finish, let
me finish the Trump executive order, I actually agree to
what I did not agree to was the cuts that
come from non compliance? Okay, so he said I did
(50:38):
not agree to the cuts of non compliance, But did
he remember what came out of his mouth a year
ago when he was talking to Judy Woodruff on PBS
roll It. Thank you so much for joining us. I
(50:59):
want to ask you for about some of the Democrats reaction.
They are saying, yes, this is a move in the
right direction, but the Senate Minority Leader, Chuck Schumer said
today that it's not. It doesn't rise to the moment.
We heard how Speaker Nancy Pelosi say it's inadequate. Do
you think you will be able to get enough Democratic
(51:20):
votes to get this to a debate and a vote
on the Senate floor. Well, if we do not, then
they'll have to explain to the families that I met
with yesterday at the White House and the families that
I met with yesterday in my office on while we're
not willing to take seriously some of the changes that
are important to those families who lost loved ones because
of the police interaction, the spill modeled after much of
(51:43):
the House Bill is an important step in the right direction.
It also includes to focus is the focus of the
President and the priorities in the executive order. So we
have a chance to do something meaningful for the American pull,
especially communities of color, who are losing confidence in the
(52:06):
institutions of authority in this country. Well, Senator, as you know,
Democrats are calling for an outright ban on certain UH
measures like a chokehold or the so called no knock
warrant um. In your proposal, you are saying these things
should be tied to federal funding, that if departments go
(52:27):
ahead with them, they risk losing funding. And yet you
also said today that this is something that should be debated,
the choke calls should be debated for the American people
to hear. So it sounds like you're open to a
complete ban on a chokehold, Is that right? Well, I
would say that say it this way. My legislation gets
us to the position where if you are a law
(52:47):
enforcement department that does not already have a ban on chokeholds,
you do not have access to the federal funding. The
House bill does not have the ability actually, in my opinion,
banned chokes. What they do is a defund states revenue
streams from the federal government it's kind of the same thing,
(53:09):
to be honest with you. The fact of the matter
is that policing is a local government decision, not a
federal decision. So I'd love to see how the Democrats
thread that needle from federalism, uh and the local department's
ability to make the decisions. We do that through the
refusing to give them the grand dollars. The White House
(53:32):
and their executive order does the exact same thing through
a certification process, So all three levers of government have
the same objective. I think we get there if we
keep working together looking for a solution. So I hear,
I hear wait wait wait wait, wait wait wait wait.
(53:53):
He does say it that if y'all don't have it
in place, you can't access to federal money. He did
say it. There's a certification process, so if y'all don't
go through it, y'all don't get the money. Is that
(54:20):
not what he criticized a year later on facination when
he said that's all the day they're trying to care,
trying to defunct. I'm sorry, Tim, Look is I just
want to be clear. Did I hear you say this
(54:43):
increases body warn camera funding increases data collection. So that's
not cutting funding, it's might be allocating it in different ways. Actually,
here's what we know. We have about a billion dollars
in grant money that goes to police. When you start
saying in order to receive those dollars, you must do
a B and C. And if you don't do a
B and C, you literally lose eligibility for the two
(55:06):
major pots of money, to burn grants and the cop grants.
When you tell local law enforcement agencies that you are
ineligible for money, that's the funding the police. Hold, Okay,
I need you how to roll that clip from from
from Judy Woods that by forty five seconds, rolling back
forty five seconds, and then I want you all to
(55:29):
hear what Tim Scott say it a year ago to
Judy Woods your press play. It's a defund States revenue
streams from the federal government. It's kind of the same thing.
To be honest with you, the fact of the matter
is that policing is a local government decision, not a
(55:53):
federal decision. So for christ thread that new federal funding
Firstment Department, that does not made it for the American
people to hear. So guys, put it on pause, go
back see, folks, this is what happens when you forget
your last lie and then you go on TV with
(56:14):
the new lie. He literally said to Judy Woodruffe that
if you do not do these things that we stipulate
by the federal government, you're not going to have access
to the money. He literally said, in the Trump executive order,
there is a certification process, y'all. A certification process means
(56:38):
if you're not certified, you don't get the money. Press play.
And yet you also said today that this is something
that should be debated, the choke calls should be debated
for the American people to hear. So it sounds like
you're open to a complete ban on a chokehold, Is
that right? Well, I would say that and say it
this way. My legislation gets us to the position where
(57:00):
if you are a law enforcement department that does not
already have a ban on chokeholes, you do not have
access to the federal funding. Stop stop, stop pause. So
you do not have a policy already banning choko's, you
(57:22):
can't get the money that that's the same thing he criticized,
perfectly does not have the ability actually, in my opinion,
banned chokeholes what they do is a defund states revenue
streams from the federal government. It's kind of the same thing,
to be honest with you. The fact of the matter
(57:43):
is that policing is a local government decision, not a
federal decision. So I'd love to see how the Democrats
thread that needle from federalism, uh and the local department's
ability to make the decisions. We do that through the
refusing to give them the grand dollars. The White House
(58:04):
and their executive order does the exact same stop stop
We do that by refusing to give them the grand dollars.
Is that not defund He then say at the Trump
White House does the same thing with the executive order.
The executive order he helped right that he supported press
(58:28):
playification process. So all three levers of government have the
same objective. I think we get there if we keep
working together looking for a solution. So I hear, I
hear a little bit of give in your position. But
let me also ask you about this concept legal concept,
qualified immunity. Stop not not not see again, this is
(58:52):
what happens when you live today. This statement came out
largest US police group appears to counter Senator Tim Scott's
argument that Democrats sought to defund police and reform negotiations.
(59:14):
Two prominent police organizations, the International Association of Chiefs of
Police and the Fraternal Order of Police, appeared to push
back against the Scott's argument in a statement Tuesday, though
a senator's name was not mentioned. Quote. Despite some media reports,
(59:37):
at no point did any legislative draft propose quote defunding
the police. In fact, the legislation specifically provided additional funding
(59:58):
to assist law enforcement agencies in training, agency accreditation, and
data collection initiatives. These provisions would have helped strict and
law enforcement, improved community police engagement to quote without compromising
(01:00:20):
management and officers rights, authorities and legal protections. This, y'all,
is the statement right here. I'm gonna pull it up.
This is the actual statement right here, right here. So
(01:00:43):
here's what happened, Booker. Scott said, well, you need to
get the unions on. Booker said cool. Booker went to
these two unions, got the deal, all of us, came back,
brought it back to Scott said they are that all
(01:01:03):
was setting. The deal got leaked. Then the other union
started yelling and screaming, scuttle the whole deal. See Scott's
being disingenuous. He's lying at no business say that the
unions were on board. So he goes on face the nation.
(01:01:25):
He goes on Fox dudes blasting Democrats like, oh, they
want to defund the police. Here you have two police
unions return on the police. We ain't no friends with FOP,
admitting that's a lie. So who will you believe? Y'all
(01:01:50):
also noticed Tenner skims. Tim Scott would not say specifically
this is what needing to build. You know why, because
I've talked, We had Congresswoman Karen Bass on the show
on Thursday, I've talked with others on Capitol Hill. Scott
(01:02:11):
kept moving the gold posts. Scott wouldn't commit. No, no,
I'm gonna eat that. We no no, no, no, no,
I'm gonna eat that. We no, no, no, no, I'm
gonna eat that. Scott would not even if y'all if
look at this is gonna face the nation. He would
(01:02:31):
not even commit to what was in the Trump executive order,
and y'all he yelp supported. This is why he cannot
be trusted on this. Senator Tim Scott is lying. Either
the Democrats wanted you to defund the police or the
(01:02:55):
unions are lying? Senator Tim Scott, which one is it?
Are you lying or the union's line? I'm reading their statement.
He won't answer their statement because see, y'all gotta understand
the moment the lie is told. Remember, the live moves
(01:03:17):
around the world faster than truth. So he goes on
the shows on Sunday, news Cycle, Sunday, news Cycle, Monday,
they dropped their new statement today Old news Now, the
live was effective, the lie was cemented. He did the
interview on Saturday. They released a portion of it on
(01:03:41):
Saturday to gin up attention for it to watch it
on Sunday. That's what he did. So y'all also noticed, Sarah,
Tim Scott, why don't you sit down with sending the
Corey Booker do a dual interview and let's go over
what you support and what you didn't support. Let's go
over what deals were brought back to you, and do
(01:04:03):
that you rejected. See that's what really happened here. He's
not gonna come on this show because he's gonna have
to answer these questions. He's gonna have to answer, not
until dancing around these little cute little phrases he's gonna
have to answer no, no, no, no, no, what specifically
did you ask for that? The Democrats said, no, there
(01:04:27):
are five major issues in this bill. Three of them
the top three chokeholes, no knock warrants, databases. Serious, Scott,
didn't you support databases and your bill last year? So
no databases this time, Teresa Abisha Mustafa. See, this is
(01:04:57):
what happens when you start unpacking stuff, when you start
busting folk who lie, when you start saying, but you
said this nice, there is no It is a one
hundred and eighty degree difference of what Tim Scott said
last year to Judy Woodruft on PBS to what he
(01:05:20):
said to Margaret Brennan on Face the Nation on Sunday.
Anyone who can jump in no, yeah, and you're right.
They think that. We also have to remember that something
else happened between last year and that that Julie Woodriffe
interview and what happened over this past weekend. What we
saw was a great mass of people who were marching
(01:05:44):
protesting those on the right as well who wanted to
get some level of attention um during the election cycle,
understanding that voters really cared about police brutality. I would
argue that, and we've seen this in the numbers that
that level of people in the streets, but also that
level of this being a top line issue for not
just the black community, but adjacent communities that also saw
(01:06:05):
it as important has significantly gone down. And what Tim
Scott did was take advantage of the increase in um
in in gun violence, and he's used utilized that to
be basically his standard bear in terms of arguing that
we need more police. The whole deep fund the police argument,
we know is is a farce. Nobody within the construct
(01:06:26):
of this legislation was trying to defund the police. That
is not what that was about. What we also know
is that time specific elements of funding to to to
a specific platform is nothing new, nor is removing said
funding if an organization or if a state group or
city based groupe goes outside of that. We've seen it
with community block grants CVBG grants. We've seen it with
(01:06:48):
grants to healthcare organizations. We've seen it with grants education organizations.
We've seen it with federal funding to basically anything that
goes to the states or the city. So none of
this is new. What Tim Scott did was make a
disingenuous pact in the beginning because he wanted to have
that leveraging point in media, and then came back to
the mean because the rest of the Republican Party told
(01:07:09):
him to, and because Tim Scott sees himself as somebody
who's going to be running at the top of the
ticket in he does not want to have anything on
the mantle that looks like it is progressive. He doesn't
want to have anything on the mantel that would push
against what the commentary is running on Fox, on O A, N,
on a lot of these other conservative networks. He was
going to always come back, and he needed the political cover.
(01:07:31):
He needed the cover that came from this push to
to put more officers on the street, largely brought on
by the rise in gun violence, which arguably we know
how to reduce that as well, and Democrats have plans
for that, Republicans consistently push against them. But this has
been in a long time coming for Temp Scott. I
don't think he was ever genuine about it to begin with.
(01:07:51):
He was just taking advantage of a moment in which
this was a platform issue, and the minute that moment
started to Wane. He decided to push go on something
that the Republicans wanted to do all along, pull the
rug out from under everyone when it came to true
legitimate police reforms. See here's the thing here, mostava Tims
Scott has never said, this is what I needed in
(01:08:13):
the bill to move forward. If you if you actually
go back and listen to all the interviews he's given,
he has never defensively said this is what I needed. No,
it was always an excuse. It was always another excuse,
and so Democrats were conceding. They would go back and
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it was like one thing after another and it was
sort of like, Okay, what is it, like, dude, what
do you want? I am told he was specifically asked, Okay, Tim,
what is it that you want? Plus to move forward?
And he could not articulate that that was he was
not actually trying to move forward because he and you
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know why, I think he knows he couldn't go get
another eight votes you see, and see here's other people
understand Sara Lindsey Graham met with the George Floyd family
on the anniversary of the George Floyd's death. When I interviewed,
the family have the only interviewed the family on that
day when they came and met us down here Black
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Lives Matter Plaza. They had a meeting and Sarah Lindsey
Graham said in the meeting, and I'm gonna help Tim
move this across the finish line. We think we can
get twenty votes. Tim Scott, you couldn't even get eight
other votes. And so what does he do? Mustafa blames
(01:09:38):
a Democrat because he failed, he could not convince his
own Republicans to support a bill that he was their
lead negotiator. I mean that it's exactly right. I mean,
you know, he doesn't want to get locked down um
(01:09:59):
and have to give pacifics because he knows, like you said,
that Democrats were willing to do whatever was necessary to
get something passed. The country was demanding that something get passed.
And you know, Foth pulled his card. And when they
pulled his card, he used the shaggy defense. He said
it wasn't me, and you know he keeps saying it.
(01:10:20):
You know that I didn't say that, I didn't do that,
and then when people run the tape, you know, the
truth is revealed, So you know, we know what we're
dealing with here, a Misha laid it out for you.
This is about him preparing himself for the election. They
are going to have either a woman or they are
going to have a person of color. And considering when
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you look at the Republican Party, it gets really thin
for the vice presidential uh slot. So he's not going
to he's not going to step out there. And here's
the thing that makes it even worse. If what he
shares with us is true about his engagements with law enforcement,
he should want to do everything that he can to
protect the lives of those who don't have the privilege
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that he has. You know, if somebody is gonna pull
you over and you've got those license plates on the
back of your car that sort of let people know
who you are. We all know what's going on on
a daily basis for everybody else. And then when the
unions don't even back up your lie, then you know
you've got yourself a problem. So now he's gonna have
to figure out how he's going to clean this up
(01:11:27):
because if he doesn't, this will also be a drag
on him as he tries to run for future leadership positions. Um,
you know, inside of their party. Even though we know
that Donald Trump used to be able to say and
do anything and continue to reinvent the facts as he
moved along. I don't think Tim Scott's going to get
that same grace that they gave Donald Trump. Teresa I
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broke it down last night, and as far as I'm concerned,
Democrats are being too soft too week in going after
Senator Tim Scott. If that man is gonna sit there
and lie, I mean the police unions, they have completely
contradicted sentaor Tim Scott. I don't understand why they are
(01:12:17):
not firing back and checking them left and right by
saying no, you're lying. Absolutely. I think Senator Corey Booker,
you know, as our lead spokesperson on this issue as
relates to trying to get this done, and I think
he can speak to some of the actions that Senator
Temps Scott has delivered, which was absolutely nothing. And it's
(01:12:39):
unfortunate because again Senator Scott has been used. Of course,
we knew that he wasn't going to have the boats.
I think maybe in the early stages he probably thought,
you know, I am the Republican Party's you know, golden child.
I want to say, boy, but Golden Child, um as
it relates to being the only African American gop um,
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you know, force when it comes to criminal justice, reform
um and any other things that you know may look
like a present, present progressive lens, but unfortunately it always
stopped short. I think, what temps Senator Scott, That's what
it always looks like. It's stopped shorts on getting it done.
But again it looks like the Republicans have put up
(01:13:22):
at least a fight to do so. And so again
it's just an unfortunate appeal. Democrats need to do more.
Senator Cording, Corey Booker and the rest of the Democrats
need to call him out. I totally agree that the
time is now. We can't wait till later. We can't
wait until next year. Um, and we we just have to,
you know, call him out for what it is. You lied,
You didn't tell the American people the truth. You had
(01:13:44):
a strategic plan on how you were going to rule
out your your communications. And you forget that people are
pulling clips from a year ago. You forget that you
are pulling clips for six months ago because you're saying
contradictory things. And people do trust the unions, people do
trust the word class and so those um, you know,
working people who are saying, listen, you know what, change
(01:14:05):
definitely needs to happen, um and and reform definitely could
look a little different, and then we need to listen
to them and do something different. Uh. And and again, folks,
with what you're dealing with here, and just so y'all know,
this is literally the actual statements right here from the
International Association of Chiefs of Police in the Fraternal Order
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of Police, uh where where they lay it all out
and they said, point blank, at no point did any
legislative draft proposed defunding the police. They said that was
going to be an increase in funding. Then it says
our organizations remain steadfast and working with all interested parties
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who are willing to take a fact based approach to
enact effective and lasting change to avoid a patchwork of
state laws that do not provide the uniform and standards
and guide into the policing profession. The i c P
and the FOP will continue to embrace the challenge and
still strong values with our agencies and at all ranks,
(01:15:09):
and hold ourselves accountable for our actions in order to
build a more cohesive and safer future. For our community.
See here's what that line. That line if y'all and
I want y'all do is I want you to roll
back the Judy Woodrif interview take it back sixty seconds
because that line, I can see. This is why y'all
need to understand the breakdown when they say two to
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avoid a first of all, fact based approach, and then
to avoid a patchwork of state laws that do not
provide uniform standards and guide into the policing profession. This
is what they were referencing, because this is what Scott
said one year ago to Judie Woodroffe, listen man on
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a choke called. Is that right? Well, I would say
that and say it this way. My legislation gets us
to the position where if you are a law enforcement
department that does not already have a ban on chokeholes,
you do not have access to the federal funding. The
House bill does not have the ability. Actually, in my opinion,
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banned chokeholes. What they do is a defund states revenue
streams from the federal government. It's kind of the same thing.
To be honest with you, The fact of the matter
is that policing is a local government decision, not a
federal decision. So I'd love to see how the Democrats
that needle from federal loops say. That's the real issue
(01:16:37):
right here center, Tim Scott and the Republicans, their fundamental
problem is that they are all about states rights. What
those segregation as Democrats were, uh in the fifth is
in sixties. That's the Republican Party is today. Stas rights,
Stace rights. You just heard her say, Oh, it's really
(01:16:58):
a matter of local and states rights. Go back to
the police statement. This is what this police statement said.
We're willing to take a fact based approach to enact
effective and lasting change to avoiding patchwork of state laws
that do not provide uniform standards and guides the policing profession.
So Senator Tim Scott Amisia Mustafa in Teresa. It's complaining
(01:17:20):
about saying, oh, Democrats, y'all want federalism, federalism, federalism, y'all
want federalism. And here you have the police unions who
are saying the problem is when you have different laws
in South Carolina compared to Mississippi, compared to North Carolina,
compared to Idaho, compared to Wyoming, compared to California, we
(01:17:41):
need a quote. They want a unified standard and guidens
the policing profession, and Scott Scott is saying Democrats, no,
we're not gonna do that. It's not even only desperate
across states, this bird across cities within the same state.
(01:18:02):
So I think that there has to be something done
that helps to not only give people faith in the system,
but also to legitimize it. Where you won't have Chocold's
happening in one police precinct or in one city twenty
minutes away from one that has already banned them, where
you won't have officers that have committed atrocities towards African Americans,
some of them death, some of them extreme faces of
brutality where they nearly killed somebody, and then they just
(01:18:25):
go one precinct over and get another job. I think
that there's something to be said here about the reluctance
of and the push that Temp Scott did, because this
was a general bait and switch, and he had it
in his mind this was a part of a formula
from the beginning, and he wanted to ensure that he
ran the clock down. That's what all the stalls were for,
That's what all the back and forth was for he
wanted to ensure that this was no longer a top
(01:18:46):
of the line news story as it was in the summer,
the fall, the winter of last year, and the early
spring of this year. He wanted to make this a
waning political policy issue because he knows that despite the
elongated based findings that we have reduced, the things that
we talked about on this show, the things that I've
heard on other shows as well. At the end of
the day, Republicans don't care about facts. They don't give
(01:19:08):
a damn and having a playback of what someone said
last year versus what they said this year. Republicans are
very used to this type of rhetoric because they want
what they want and they will take it by any
means necessary. Right now, they're running on a deep fund,
the police anti deep fund, the police mantra, and they've
seen gains across the country and doing so and they
think it's going to help them in mid terms as well.
They're not going to let that go again. Here's the
(01:19:31):
whole deal, Teresa. From a messaging standpoint, Mustafa, if you're Democrats,
you ain't got any room margin for error. You need
to be out there messaging point blank saying, Yo, we
were ready. He failed. He was the one who couldn't deliver.
And frankly, I'm sorry, And I said the Senecore Booker.
(01:19:53):
I saw his appearances. They were they were weak as
they were weak. It was weak, sauce. I'm sorry. The
man is hitting you with a sledge hammer. You're coming back. Why.
I'm not going to get into name Colie, he was
my friend. I'm going to extein him. Grace damn that
No grace, no grace. You gotta go, you gotta get
(01:20:13):
right to it. Final comment mostafa in the reason, Well,
you can't give grace because we've got people's lives that
are in jeopardy by not having you know, the consistencies
that's in place. I mean the police. You know, these
police departments and unions know that they're going to continue
to get sued. So and all the time that I
spent in the federal government, folks wanted consistency UM. In
(01:20:37):
the states, industries wanted consistency so that they knew what
the regulation was, what are the you know the lines
that we can operate in UM. And it helps folks
to just be clear so when you don't do that now,
you know, you know, Senator to Tim Scott continues to
drop the ball. I can go through a number of
pieces of legislation that he's worked on where he hasn't
(01:20:57):
been successful, and the things that he was able to
work with others to get past hasn't help people. So
this is just another example of film policies and not
being able to deliver on the things that you say
that you can do well. I said it to him,
I said, I just send him a text message, Teresa
uh saying uh no response with the Union said totally
(01:21:21):
contradicting what you said on facin nation. Yeah, he text
me back in four years. I'm not expecting him to
hit me back, but uh, and I already know it's
still his number, and I'm gonna keep sitting it to
him because somebody needs to be demanding the truth from him.
I agree. I mean, look, if there's a number that
we can all text at the same time, please let
us know. Will flood the gate. But I think there
(01:21:44):
is a federal um, you know, position that needs to
happen again. You know, most of these police departments, uh,
I think they actually keep it localized. Um. They don't
like to change. They're very traditional and and the way
they fight crime, the way they prosecute are the ways
that they love to be. And of course I think
(01:22:05):
some of the unions are very sick and tired of
being sued and tired of going in arbitration, and that
I think they are looking for the federal government to
step in and do their job. So if there isn't
a federal state law or federal law that is changing
how police reform happens in the city, um cities and
states across the country, then we are going to have
(01:22:27):
these continued situations where people are, you know, doing whatever
they choose to when they become one in uniform to
protect and serve. All right, then folks gonna go to
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She'll be back all right, folks. UH, now let me
break it down again. A new study H shows A
new study shows that UH students of color and the
high poverty areas at a lower achievement rate during the
one school year. Covid Con Academy. UH is focused on
offering free resources to parents and teachers to keep students
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on track. Here joining us now is Uh Salcon, founder
of CEO Khan Academy out of Silicon of Valley, California. Alright,
glad to have you here. So um COVID obviously screwed
everything up. School districts were exposed. They were not ready.
You had students who couldn't afford computers, didn't have WiFi,
didn't have paths, all this sort of stuff along those lines. Uh,
(01:26:36):
and folks were very scared, students of color falling back,
falling behind. That of course was in the spring. Then
we went to the summer. We still have being impacted
this fault. Uh, this this fault as well, and so
we're still dealing with that. And so you're their parents
out there who are going, look, I'm trying, I'm trying to.
I'm trying to. Uh, you know, I want my child
(01:26:57):
to compete, but this thing couldn't live. Don't really hurt
them on the back end when you're talking about getting
into your senior year kind of plot for college and
scholarships with the grants among those lines. Absolutely, we know
that even even before the pandemic, we had a lot
of learning laws going on. People always cite the summer
(01:27:20):
slide that in summer, not only are kids not learning
for three months, but they're forgetting the previous three months
and things like summer. Uh, the history shows us was
a big source of inequity because middle class, upper middle
class families put their kids into enriching academic programs, while
families that don't have the resources can't do that. And
so you see some divergence. And that's just over three months.
(01:27:40):
As you just mentioned, this has gone over eighteen months.
And this is a situation where everything had to be
at home. The digital divide just exacerbated things, and we
know what the situation was pre pandemic because of all
of this learning laws. Seventy percent seven zero percent of
all kids who go to community college they don't even
place into college algebra, and college algebra is really tenth
grade math. They have to essentially get remediation at the
(01:28:01):
sixth or seventh grade level. So even though they're taking
eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade, eleventh grade math, they
have to take six or seventh grade because they have
so many gaps in their in their knowledge. Even kids
who go to four year institutes out here in California
in the cow state system, and we know that the
numbers are even tougher for kids from historically under resource
communities where they didn't have as many resources. Uh and
(01:28:23):
and all the other supports that oftentimes more fluent families
might get, and everything just got worse with the pandemic
for every reason you just talked about. Now what we
we try to do? What kind of academy is We're
trying to give the tools that either a family can
leverage on their own or that a teacher could use
so that they can reach every student where they are.
Even before the pandemic, every teacher knows that there's thirty
(01:28:43):
kids in the room, they're all in different places. But
the only thing they know how to do, because it's
it's difficult without any support, is teach to the middle,
even though you're leaving behind half the kids, and half
the kids might even might might not be fully engaged.
We we want to give away free tools. Everything I
talked about. It's not for profit, there's no catch. It's
funded by full anthropy. It's the most studied platform in
the world. Hundred hundreds of millions of folks use it
(01:29:04):
is too in a classroom setting. Let every kid learn
at their own time and pace, fill in those gaps
so they have a strong foundation, move ahead, ideally accelerate.
Teachers get real data to see where they can intervene
and whether or not it's happening in the classroom. Families
on their own can leverage con Academy. And not only
do we have con Academy now, which is all free
and not for profit, there's another effort called Schoolhouse dot World,
(01:29:26):
another not for profit funded by philanthropy, completely free, where
people can get free tutoring over zoo. So everyone's talking
about tutoring. This is free tutoring where if your child
needs help fill in those gaps or move ahead, they
can get it live and if they want to do
it at their own time and pace, they can do
that on academy. Uh and so all right, So in
(01:29:46):
terms of my question of my pound, the pound next,
so in terms of the pants sitting out there past,
like I don't know where to start, Yeah, most parents don't.
So first of all, don't don't feel bad. I think
every parent always feels like everyone else has it all
figured out. I'll tell you, depending on the age of
(01:30:06):
your student, if you have young kids in the pre
K through roughly first or second grade. We have con
Academy kids and I want to stress this is not
an advertisement for some paid product. This is funded by philanthropy.
There's fifty efficacy studies that app which you can get
on Android or on iOS on your Apple uh device.
It covers reading, writing, social emotional learning, and mathematics. It's
(01:30:28):
it's highly engaging. Ideally, sit down with your your your
child and work with through it with them twenty minutes
a day. We have a lot of efficacy studies that
it can close the gap and as little as six
weeks and then they can keep going and then for
math for third grade and over. If you get your
kids on con Academy for even thirty minutes a day,
we see efficacy study after efficacy study that even thirty
(01:30:49):
minutes a week is growing the kids thirty or more.
But if they're able to do it on a daily
basis and really make a practice out of it, we
have no doubt that they're not only going to fill
in the gaps that might have been formed during the pandemic,
but then they're going to be one of the strongest
kids in their classroom. Questions first, the reason, Yeah, there's
something else that you want parents to know that they
(01:31:11):
already don't know things, you know. I think it's it's
that not the school system is doing that in many
cases the best it can, but it has so many
things it's stretched thin, and so I think, you know,
for parents, and I do think the pandemic did make parents.
A lot of parents realize this because they had to
(01:31:32):
be the teaching assistant, They had to be with their
kids at home and try to help them submit the
assignments and all of that is that you're in order
for your child not to fall through the cracks because
every school district can't meet the needs of every student personally.
That's where using type these types of supports like kind
Academy or Schoolhouse dot World. And I'll say it again,
(01:31:52):
because people are skeptical. They think that something that's free
there must be a cash that someone's going to charge them,
or something's gonna happen to it, or maybe it's not
as good as a thing that I see ads for
on TV. But the reality is there's more efficacy studies here,
it's more robust uh and it's being used already in
school systems around the world. So parents should try it
out and it's very usable for students who engage. If
(01:32:15):
you talk to students who are a little bit older,
I'm guessing they're already using it. So this could actually
be a point of engagement where the parents can talk
to your child about it, say hey, why don't you
do twenty two minutes a day keep working on it. Also,
if parents are really up for it, to start learn
on the platform themselves and helps you engage with what
your students are doing that much better. Thank you, Mustafa,
(01:32:37):
Brother Connan, thank you first of all. Um. As we
get to the end of this decade and you look back,
what would you like to have seen the Khan Academy
be able to accomplish? Well? Our mission statement is free
world class education for anyone anywhere, and then I oftentimes
add the parenthetical and we're serious about it. And and
the way that I imagine doing that is, you know,
(01:32:58):
there there's kids who hopefully are going to a reasonably
well resourced school with good teachers. We want to raise
the ceiling there, allow for the personalization, allow for the
fact that even if kids come in with unfinished learning,
they can finish that learning. But we also know that
there's a lot of kids, if we think globally, who
might not have a school at all. But even here
in the United States, kids might go to a school,
(01:33:19):
but we know that a madory. A majority of minority
majority schools in the United States do not offer some
of the courses that we would consider table stakes courses
like algebra, two courses like physics, courses like biology, or
even where it is offered, there's often i would say
a deficit bias, a deficit mentality. There's a lot of
(01:33:40):
research that backs this up where the system might not
think that these kids are as capable. And this is
where a tool like con Academy can say, no, we're
gonna give you the same expectations. It's mastery based, take
as much time as you need, but eventually master the concepts.
So we want to do that. We already have a
strong offering in math, We're adding science as we speak.
We want to go into the humanity these and we
(01:34:00):
also want to start connecting that with that with actual opportunity,
with actual credit. We're actually talking to Howard University right
now about a college algebra course that we can bring
into Title one high schools because as we said of
all kids when they get to community college, they don't
even place into college ALGABA, much less getting credit for it.
Imagine if all kids could get credit for college algebra
(01:34:23):
before they're even allowed to drop out of high school.
But then they've actually mastered the material, and if they
don't master at the end of that course, they keep
working on it until the point that they master. It's
not a situation where you get a see and you're
being and you get called to see student the rest
of your life. If you're keep working on it so
you can eventually get mastery. And so I'm hoping that
is something that it's mainstream in the next five ten years.
(01:34:45):
And I think this tutoring program is going to be
really interesting because we're already seeing a lot of people
benefiting from the tutoring. They're finding that this free tutoring
on schoolhouse dot World is better than things that they
might have even been able to pay for. And the
way that we motivate the the tutors is we say,
and some of these tutors high school students and college students,
as we say, if you can tutor algebra or biology
or statistics, we're gonna find opportunities for you. We're gonna
(01:35:08):
help you get into college. If you're a college admissions officer,
wouldn't you want to admit the kid who's a great
tutor in algebra are a great tutor in in biology
and that should also be a pathway of the job opportunity,
so it's not gated by where you go to college.
CLEMSA awesome and thanks for being here. You are speaking
my language as somebody who has worked in education leadership
(01:35:29):
at d K through twelve level as well as at
the community college level. Um, you're you're really speaking facts here.
When I think about things like the brain drain, which
happened long before COVID nineteen, COVID nineteen is getting a
lot of credit for things that have been existing in
the public school system for a very long time. Um,
how do parents and schools work too eradicate? But we've
already seen in terms of kids who been basically left behind,
(01:35:52):
many of which grade levels behind, despite the fact that
they're still getting passed on. We know this because we
know the scores in math. We know this wars in
reading and writing, And there was a statistic that came
out just last week that in we aren't going to
have up to eight six of young people who are
functionally illiterate, So there's something else going on. We talk
(01:36:13):
about math and science a lot, which obviously stem matters,
but we don't talk about as often as literacy. And
we're walking into a population of young people who quite frankly,
cannot read and write. What what? What types of what?
What types of platforms are you working on to address
that as well? What is out here for pantents? Absolutely?
And you know, second place to the college math re
(01:36:34):
mediation problem is the college writing problem. And that just
shows an issue even for the kids who don't go
to college. It shows exactly what you're talking about, how
big the deficit is where kids aren't even being able
to do the basic reading and writing. It what we
would really consider a functional level, which is a middle
school level. And you know what's what's happening is once
those deficits form, unless you do things and what I
(01:36:55):
would call a mastery framework, they're only going to get
worse and worse. If if if I give you a
test and you've got a seventy on basic exponents, and
it just might be it took you a little longer
to get that you might have something going on at
home that week. The system right now gives you a
C minus or a D, and then the whole class
will move on to the next concept that's going to
build on that on that deficit, it's going to build.
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It's gonna you're gonna go into negative exponents or equations
that deal with exponents somehow, and you could be a genius,
but you're not going to be able to engage with
this next thing when you have that deficit, that gap
that's sitting there. And so the solution in our minds is,
instead of just continuing to go through the motions and
do this factory model of education that we've had since
the beginning of the Industrial Revolution, let's use some modern tools,
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not as a substitute for the system, but as a
way to unlock the system as a way to start
reaching every every student where we where they are. So
we need to do that in math at to your point,
we hope that kind academy, if we can get the
philanthropic funding, we hope we can start on reading comprehension
on the UH you know, in the next couple of years.
We are doing it. We are the official practice with
a college board around the s A T. And to
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your point about people in not being able to read
a write, there's even more dystopian statistics. I remember reading
a long time ago that you know, to build prisons
takes about a ten fifteen year lead time and it
correlates with fourth or grade test scores. I mean, if
there's nothing you know, that is the most dystopian thing
I've ever heard in my entire life. But it tells
you how important it is to get young people at
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a strong foundation, not just so they can engage in math,
but so that they actually their self esteem doesn't fall apart.
I started kind of academy tutoring family members, and it
started tutoring with my twelve year old cousin at the time,
back in two thousand four, and she was giving up
on herself and it you know, she was quote lucky
to have me be able to do an intervention with
her and deep program a lot of what she began
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to think of herself. But a lot of kids don't
have that. So we have to think about how are
the supports to fill in those gaps, make sure their
self esteem doesn't crumble, make sure that they're able to
connect with other people and have a strong foundation. All right,
Then again, UH say I back, people go to get
more information about kon Academy great. Just people check out
n academy dot org. I encourage people check out Schoolhouse
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dot world as well. These are related not for profits.
And once again, some people sometimes think that we're trying
to sell something, But this is free, funded by philanthropy,
and it's it's the most recognized and studied platform in
the world. So I just want to make sure people
know that it exists for their children, all right, So
I appreciate it. Thanks a lot, Thank you. All Right, Folks,
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Today in Chicago, they broke broke ground on the Obama
Presidential Centers, late to open in two thousand and twenty two.
Here's some of what took place. There's been a long
time coming. We had originally hoped to hold a bigger
festive event, but the pandemic had other plans, and so
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we're keeping this small for now. Uh. But to everyone
who is watching, including so many who were part of
my administration, so many worked tirelessly to make this day possible,
please know how incredibly grateful I am and how much
I am looking forward to celebrating with all of you
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in person as soon as we can. For us, the
Obama Presidential Center means a lot more than just creating
a space to house memories from our eight years in
the White House. This investment, the substantial investment in the
South Side, will help make the neighborhood where we call
home a destination for the entire world. They will be
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breaking ground. They're breaking ground today. It will open a
year from now. Uh. It's not a typical presidential library.
It is called a presidential center, unlike other presidential libraries. Uh,
papers and things on those lines of in the digital
as opposed to hard copies, and so uh it all
begins there in Chicago and development goes all. So uh
(01:41:01):
astrounting areas is a Tiger Wheels designed golf course that
can be also built as well. Be a lot of
drama over this Presidential Center where a lot of community
groups have been saying that, uh that they have not
been good community partners. But those lawsuits are beaten back.
So uh there you go. Alright, folks, you know what
time it is. I got to hard m going wandering
(01:41:28):
on my property proper well vincent paternal y'all worked for
FedEx delivery driver, and he was so arrogant that he
posted a video on TikTok saying, if you supported President
(01:41:51):
Joe Biden Vice President Kama Harris, black lives Matter, I
ain't delivering your package in Seattle. Watch this, m what's
up TikTok? It's funny to come on here and uh
but all you know, if you don't have a flag
(01:42:12):
in front of your house, and if you have a
Joe Biden, come out of count to put it up
in front of your house, Black rigs matter. I will
not do the real ship. I will not deliver your ship.
I will bring that back to the station and I
(01:42:33):
would keep doing that ship. I say, m hm, So
what happened was y'all seen this guy named Michael mac
He's a he's a white director. Uh he of course,
UM got ahold of this. He has been very successful.
(01:42:53):
Uh at out in a bunch of other people. Uh.
He dropped this video that cause little misdevince and lose
his job. Hey, do you hear about this new policy
where FedEx won't deliver packages to you packages you've paid
for based on your political beliefs. Don't take my word
for it. Here's a FedEx employee funding to come on,
(01:43:17):
but all email. If you don't have a flag inpendient house,
and if you have a Joe Biden count folk put
fit up and tiding a half Black bid matter, I
will not get a little ship I want not deliver.
I will bring that back to the station. How keep
(01:43:41):
you in men ship? Really? Do you even get a
whiff that I support Biden or Black Lives Matter or
maybe even a Pride flag? You won't deliver my package.
This is a Fedics policy. I assume it must be
a FedEx policy. You're in the uniform making these statements,
because if this isn't a policy that FedEx has us,
this is a really odd way to quit your job. Vincent,
(01:44:05):
Mr Worldwide Paterno of Oak Harbor, Washington. But maybe the
goal of this is to quit your job. I don't
know that you're necessarily that happy working at FedEx. I mean,
after all, your Facebook tells everyone you've been self employed
since two thousand sixteen. I'm pretty sure you don't own FedEx.
(01:44:27):
So we can go ahead and let FedEx know how
you feel. Maybe also the people in your neighborhood or
in your life that know you can also know. Chasa
didn't already. I'm gonna help you get your message out there. Vincent.
I really like this guy, Michael Mack. We gotta get
him on the show, y'all because, uh, you know, he's
(01:44:50):
he's done this a number of times Amishia where he's
done these videos out in white supremacists in others. Uh
and then um and and and you know, a huge
following his on TikTok and social media as well. And
he actually engaged in a back and forth with this guy,
and he's like, he said, yeah, you got a few followers,
(01:45:12):
but I've got more. Vincent no longer has a job,
as he shouldn't rolland up watching that this is not
only a very bold and dignant and ignorant man, but
he was. He was bold enough to record this, put
it on one of the largest platforms he possibly could,
um go against everything that he basically signed up to
(01:45:34):
do as a fed Ex employee. You can't decide who
you're going to drop off packages to and who you're
not based on political affiliation, religious affiliation, raised or anything else.
You are paid to do a service, so you do
says service. But he didn't. His name was revealed, his
face was out there there was a time when people
were ignorant behind avatars and all types of other things
use false names. This guy clearly didn't care. Graduated high
(01:45:58):
school in n According to that Facebook profile, the self
employee probably means was unemployed up until he had that
that exposition. He did all of this and is now
going to posolutely be collecting and check from the government
and waiting for his next situation to roll through. Okay, okay,
I'm gonna tell you how even more stupid he is.
So Michael Mack did a second video. Okay you want
(01:46:22):
to you thought that was crazy, watch this one. Usually
when someone receives the rap on the knuckles that is
one of my videos, the response is to change their
tune pretty quickly or at the very least shut the
funk up. And then there's Vincent, Like I said, I'm
not going to deliver any fucking bite in supporters, nor
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Black Lives Matter ship and all these people right here
look at all this. Uh huh, y'all didn't get your
ship today. On top of that, my boss hit me
up today and said, hey, come, he didn't of her
forty thoughts, And I said, because they're fucking Biden s
(01:47:04):
reports and he said, Hey, you know that's gonna cost
you your your monthly bonus. Sex in her bucks, I
lose a bonus. Who cares standing up for what's right? Um,
But if y'all want to show some love, my length
is in the buyo. We're such a piece of ship.
(01:47:24):
You know your wife messaged me to tell me how
she and your children do not agree with you, how
she begged you not to post this. Now you've posted
a second time and she's getting threats, which, by the way,
if you've contacted his family and threatened them, you're no
better than he is. Forty stops, forty customers who did
not receive the service that they paid for. You get
the video prepared for when you lose your job, because
(01:47:46):
you are. I've already had some pretty high people when
FedEx reach out to me. It's coming and then you'll
be there. Who happen goods? Would you ever doing the
right thing? Couldn't you help me? No, that's not gonna happen. See,
the first step was your job, because you're a beauty,
using your position and harming customers. Next, when you ask
for that money, I take all that to PayPal, Venmo,
(01:48:07):
cash app go fund me, whatever route you try, I'm
gonna take it. And I know you probably thinks you're
safe because you've locked me on TikTok and on Instagram
after you left this comment and try to paint this
picture like oh medical supplies. Yeah, no, I see all
of this. There is nothing you will do I won't
hear about. So if your objective was to have like
thirty seconds of fame for being really shitty on the internet,
(01:48:30):
you can have that. Anything else. No, you've done messed
up a run ah, I love it. It's like you
want this vote, I got you. M a confused Roland though.
Why was the bonus the only issue that his supervisor
(01:48:51):
had with it? Okay, well we'll take your bonus away.
This wasn't why okay, they should have fired him and
them and the manager was stava, I mean stupid is
a stupid? Does you know? It's really? This is gonna
follow him forever. These folks don't get it. Not only
are you gonna lose your job, but you're gonna be
able to have a reference. People are gonna be looking
(01:49:12):
at you and watching you and following you. And come on, man,
if you don't care about yourself, care about your family.
It's just but you know what, I also say that
I appreciate people saying and showing who they truly are,
so you know how you got to deal with them.
So as I often say, hit him in the pockets. Uh.
(01:49:33):
The reason I really appreciate what what Michael mac does. Teresa.
I don't know if y'all remember, but that was a
woman in New York I think with the New York
who was arrested, who was peddling, who had who was
peddling fake vaccination cards and she had an end she
she was paying somebody who was with who was with
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the New York system, and they were putting the information
in the database. Well, he actually hit the woman on
Instagram responded, Uh, he was a one who turned in
the federal authorities and about two weeks later when they
announced this big time arrest. Uh, and that was her.
So this guy is a director. Again, I would love
to have my show. But you were talking about white allies.
(01:50:15):
This is a guy who uses this platform to go
after white supremacists, to go after racist He exposes them
and he's killing it. I started following on Twitter. He's
absolutely hilarious. I love the whole Orsen Wales. Uh look
in style. Uh. But yeah, my man said, I don't
care lose my job, and he's like, Okay, we're gonna
(01:50:36):
make it happen. And I love when he said, and
if you try to get money with a go fund me,
we're gonna go after every pace service to block you
there too. I think there's a bigger problem that I saw,
and they had to do with the management of FedEx.
Just saying you're losing your bonus. Um, it's almost like
he justified what he was doing. And for me, that's
(01:50:59):
actually a really big problem because, um, FedEx, you know,
I get it, it's hard to find workers during these times.
Everybody's getting unemployment uh, and you gotta pretty much pay
people in order to work for a company these days.
But I think the bigger issue is the the amount
of attention that this person is getting an the amount
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of privilege and the amount of power he assumes that
he has um by doing certain things. And I mean
if if if the flags offend them, what else offends
them is black people offending them? Is black dogs offending him?
And what next will he do while in this position
and feeling like um, anything that he does he can
get away with. So I have a bigger problem with corporate,
(01:51:39):
and I think they need to address it. Um. Yeah,
And in fact, we should have had to wait for corporate.
The manager should have said you're gone, You're gone, You're done.
It's to But you don't, you know, you don't necessarily
have folks who have that sort of courage. And so
that's exactly what you saw take place there. So a right, folks,
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UM real quick here. Natural Inventors Hall of Fame inductee
inducts two black women for the first time in history.
The late otomologist Patricia Bath and engineer Maryan Croak will
be part of the Class baths invention UH laser They
Go UH led her to UH an easier fast removal
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of cataracts. Actually met her at a conference helping millions
of suffering patients and aphamologists worldwide. She's also the first
black female doctor to receive a medical patent, the first
black woman to lead several residency programs. She passed away
in twenty nineteen. A. Croaker is responsible for more than
two hundred patients patents, I'm Sorry, and leads Google's Research
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Center for Responsible AI and Human Center Technology. Her voice
over Internet protocol is the key to today's audio and
video conferencing. Croak and her team created a text to
donate system that that aided victims of Hurricane to train
a the two thousand ten earthquake in Haiti or certainly
congratulations to those two sisters. Like I said, I was
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at a conference that it was the it was in
um New York. It was the uh culture, Oh my god,
what was it the twinnight It was in New York.
We had SAP and it was it was great. And
then they told me about her, uh and so just
an amazing sister. Then, so we certainly say congratulations uh
to both of them as well. Already folks that sit
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uh Mustafa um Misha as well as Teresa. Thanks a lot,
uh Misha. I saw your tweet apparently what you're becoming
a contributor at Black News Channel. Yes, sir, all right,
well well hopefully you you made sure to put in
there that there's a car about you can still do
our show. Uh. I made them aware of that before
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anything was sealed. It's like I have to be able
to do Rolling Martin. There you go. That's what I'm
talking about. As I appreciate the congratulations. Thank you very much, folks. UH.
Tomorrow I am going to be broadcasted from the University
of Exist at our Linton, So I'm gonna be speaking.
I think this, I think this is I'm trying to think.
Is this my first well not at the Fisk University
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of course, uh, for the fellowship, but I have not
spoken on in a speech one of the college campus
UH in a very long time. We're gonna be at
a U t A UH tomorrow and so looking forward
to that. UH. Let me pull up the graphic UH
to show you. It is their tenth annual opening lecture
of the Center for African American Studies, the School of
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Social Work and Multicultural Affairs. I'll be speaking on conditions
facing African Americans in the contemporary United States. You have
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