Trump admin held in contempt, Bernie Sanders Repub warning, Musk AI plant pollutes Black community

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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Today's Wednesday, April sixteenth, twenty twenty five, coming up on
roland Mark unquote the streaming live with the Black Star Network.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
A federal judges just found probable calls to hold the
Trump administration in contempt criminal contempt for violating his deportation order.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Will break it down.

Speaker 2 (00:34):
Plus Maryland Senator Chris Van Holland is n El Salvador
trying to talk to a Maryland man Kilmar Ormando Abrego
Garcia to bring.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Him back to the United States.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
However, the old Salvadorian vice president claims the Trump administration
is paying the country. He's containing the innocent man and MAGA.
Republicans keep insisting he is a terrorist. He's with MS
three team, but they have no evidence do Twenty two
years ago, Senator Bernie Sanders warned America about how Republicans

(01:10):
will win future elections. We're gonna show you what he
said two thousand and three. How's that panning out? Plus
a Detroit pastor tells us that Santagusus's university has not
told him what has happened to a fifty thousand dollars
scholarship donation. That pastor will be on today's show. Plus

(01:30):
Elon Musk's AI plant in Memphis is reportedly using more
gas turbines than permitted, leading to increased air pollution in
black communities. We'll talk to Tennessee Rep. Justin Pearson about
that very thing. Plus, now we'd already told you helping
him with services. Secretary Robert Kennedy Junior is a dumbass.

(01:53):
Still got a warm in his head. Remember he said
he couldn't study unless he was on heroin in college.
WI you hear what this idiot had to say about
people living with autism. Plus, folks always running their mouth
about what we don't do on this show and how
we are race bating.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
But it's amazing how easily they lie.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
And you got a group of folks who just believe
they're lie. I got a couple of words to say
to a simple side, and it's time to bring the
fark rolling back on the filter on the Black stud Network.

Speaker 3 (02:30):
Lips Cup, he's.

Speaker 4 (02:32):
Got whatever he's it, whatever it is.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
He's got to stoop the fact to find and win it.
Believes he's right on time, and it's rolling best belief.
He's going putting it down.

Speaker 6 (02:46):
Frank's Loston hows to politics with entertainment.

Speaker 5 (02:50):
Just fuck kicks, he's going.

Speaker 7 (02:58):
It's stolen.

Speaker 5 (03:07):
He's punky stress, she's built a question.

Speaker 8 (03:10):
No, he's rolling.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
All right, folks, Lots to unpack here. It was a
brutal day in federal court, uh for the thug to
the Donald Trump administration. A federal judge made it perfectly clear.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
UH that he.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Found probable cause to hold Trump and his minions in
criminal contempt of court for violating his orders regarding planes
carrying deportees to L Salvador. US District Judge James Bosberg,
who was appointed by President George W. Bush and he
was appointed to the Chief Justicief Judge of the court

(04:00):
he sits on by President Barack Obama.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
He warned that he could refer the matter for.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Prosecution if the administration does not.

Speaker 3 (04:07):
Rectify its contempt.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, here is the problem, is Donald Trump's Department of Justice.
So they damn sure not going to sit here and
try anybody. Judge Boseburg stated that the administration could remedy
the situation by returning those who were sent to the
El Salvador prison back to the United States, as this
actually would align with his orders.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
If the Justice Department decides not to prosecute the issue.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Boseburg indicated that he would appoint another attorney to handle
the prosecution of the contempt. In his ruling, the judge
said the Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience of judicial orders,
especially by officials of a coordinate branch who have sworn
an oath to uphold it. Now, while that is happening,
Democratic Maryland Center Chris Van the Holland traveled to El

(04:52):
Salvador to check on one of his constituents, Kilmar Armando
Abrego Garcia. The man mistakenly deported there to a high
security prison for terrorists. If in the Holly said he
met with the Il Salvadorian Vice president, who said the
Trump thugs are paying them to keep the innocent man
away from his family.

Speaker 9 (05:14):
Now, the courts of the United States have said there's
no evidence to support the charge that he's part of
MS thirteen. So I asked the vice president whether or
not El Salvador has any evidence that he's part of
MS thirteen or has committed a crime. So I asked
the vice president if Abrego Garcia has not committed a

(05:40):
crime and the US courts have found that he was
illegally taken for the United States, and the governor government
of El Salvador has no evidence that he was part
of MS thirteen.

Speaker 10 (05:54):
Why is El Salvador continuing to hold him in Seacott?

Speaker 9 (05:58):
And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying
El Salvador, the government of val Salvador to keep him
at Seacott. And I pointed out that neither the government

(06:20):
of val Salvador nor the Trump administration has presented evidence
to support the claim that he's committed any kind of
criminal acts, and so why not release Abrego Garcia today?
And he said what President Bukayley said the other day
at at the White House, which that El Salvador can't

(06:46):
smuggle mister Abrago Garcia into the United States. And I said,
I'm not asking him to smuggle mister Abrago Garcia in
the United States. I'm simply asking him to open the
door of Seacott and let this innocent man walk out.
And I pointed out that the Attorney General of the
United States, Pam Bondi, has said that the United States

(07:08):
would send a plane to El Salvador to pick him up.

Speaker 10 (07:12):
And why did she do that?

Speaker 9 (07:14):
Because the Supreme Court of the United States, in a
ruling of nine to zero, has said that the Trump
administration has to facilitate his return to the United States. Now,
there's no evidence that the Trump administration is complying with
that order.

Speaker 10 (07:32):
There's no evidence that.

Speaker 9 (07:34):
They are complying with that or in fact, the United
States embassy here has told me they've received no direction
from the Trump administration to help facilitate his release. So
the Trump administration is clearly in violation of American court orders.
But that still leaves the question, why is the government

(07:55):
of Al Salvador continuing to imprison a man where they
have no evidences committed any crime and they've not been
provided any evidence from the United States Citi's committed a crime.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Okay, so let me unpack this.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Here is the chief liar for Donald Trump, Caroline Leavitt,
at the White House podium, trying to lie to all
of us about how this guy's a gang.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
They were listening to this.

Speaker 6 (08:24):
And when Abrego Garcia was originally arrested, he was wearing
a sweatshirt with rolls of money covering the ears, mouth,
and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is
a known MS thirteen gang symbol of here no evil,
speak no evil, see no evil.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
So they're saying that he was wearing a sweatshirt. Okay,
now listen to this.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
DIA in this room have continually and wrongly labeled Kilmar
Abrego Garcia as a Maryland father. There is no Marilynd father.
Let me reiterate. Abrego Garcia is an illegal alien MS
thirteen gang member and foreign terrorists.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
So they'll constantly say it, this person is a gang
member and a foreign terrorist.

Speaker 3 (09:16):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, was asked that very question.

Speaker 3 (09:21):
Listened to her answer.

Speaker 11 (09:25):
Kilo Abrego Garcia and Maryland. He's in a prison now
in El Salvador. He was sent there. You insist the
president everybody in the administration and says that he is
MS thirteen.

Speaker 12 (09:37):
It appears that there's not going to be any sort
of trial. He's not going to come back.

Speaker 11 (09:40):
DHS that he would be arrested and redported if he
comes back. Why not show the American people the evidence
that he's MS thirteen so they can make an informed decision.
And that goes the same with this. Henry Hosuay Santos,
who was picked up in Virginia, who is now presumably
going to be deported as well. Why not show the
public the evidence.

Speaker 13 (10:00):
Well, he is an illegal alien who has been living
illegally in our country from El Salvador. Ice testified. An
immigration judge ruled he was a member of MS thirteen.
An appellate judge ruled he was a member of MS thirteen.

(10:21):
Hard stop. He should not be in our country. He
was deported. They needed one additional step in paperwork. But
now MS thirteen is characterized as they should be, as
an FTO, as a foreign terrorist organization, so he is
not coming back to our country. President Buquele said he
was not sending him back. That's the end of the story.

(10:43):
If he wanted to send him back, we would give
him a plane ride back. There was no situation ever
where he was going to stay in this country.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
None. None.

Speaker 14 (10:53):
He would have come back.

Speaker 13 (10:54):
Had one extra step of paperwork and gone back again.
But he's from L Salvador. He's in L Salvador, and
that's where the president plans on keeping him.

Speaker 12 (11:02):
The evidence, we're not going to see the evidence.

Speaker 13 (11:04):
We have the transcripts from the court hearings. I'll be
glad to give you the Court hearings from twenty nineteen.
What we have sure were the rulings from the judges.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
First of all, court transcript.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
That's not evidence, it's just not and so, but just understand,
these are people who are openly defying a court order
the Supreme Court.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Donald Trump is a liar.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Donald Trump has repeatedly said that the Court's ruled in
his favor.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
That is a lie. It's just a flat out lie.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And not only that, this is the leader of the
National Building Trades Union who is demanding Garcia get returned
because he was an apprentice in Baltimore. Listen to this.
We need to make our voices heard. We're not red,
We're not blue. We're the building trades, the backbone of America.

Speaker 15 (12:09):
We built a five billion you want to build a
five billion dollar data center, what more? Sixth filiure careers
with healthcare, retirement and no college debt.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
You don't call Elon Musk, You call us.

Speaker 15 (12:22):
North America's Building Trades Unions. And yeah, that means all
of us, all of us, including our brother smart apprentice
ar Brada Garcia, who we demanded to be returned to
us and his family.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Now bring him home.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
And to keep in mind, a lot of those white
men they vote ay MAGA, they voted for Trump. But
you see what happens when it's one of their own.
So you now may be wondering, You may be saying, well, okay,
I don't understand what's going on. I don't understand what
they're trying to achieve. This is what they're trying to achieve.

(13:09):
They do not care about the rule of law. MAGA
does not care about.

Speaker 3 (13:14):
The rule of law.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
They only like laws when it goes in their favor.
So what their game is. And see this is when
you can always tell when Stephen Miller and Carolyn Levitt
and jd Vance and Fox News and conservative talk radio
and conservative digital radio, when they all start saying the

(13:38):
same thing, that means the memo went out and this
is how we are going to frame this, and the
way we're.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
Going to frame this is see look at that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
See just in case if if you think I'm hold
one second, if you think I'm not telling the truth,
I just want you to understand how they try to
play this game, how they want to control this narrative
in terms of how they like to sit here and
frame this. And so this is what their strategy is

(14:13):
this is JD.

Speaker 3 (14:14):
Evans.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
The entire American media and left wing industrial complex has
decided the most important issue today is that the Trump
administration deported an MS thirteen game member in parentheses and
illegal alien. They want to say, see those Democrats, Look

(14:38):
how hard they're.

Speaker 3 (14:39):
Fighting for an illegal alien.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Why are those Democrats fighting so hard for this illegal alien?
Why don't they just shut up and move on and
stop fighting for this illegal alien.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
That's their goal, y'all, that's their goal. They want to
frame this.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
As Democrats are just they're being wrong. How dare you
fight for an illegal alien? George Cheney's founder, George tragis
out of DC. Doctor Zachary Kirk, educator and content creator
from Atlanta Political says social media political Actors of North Carolina.
That's the ballgame right here, Joy, is real simple. They

(15:18):
want to frame this ass as all those Democrats care
about our illegal aliens.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
They don't care about y'all.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
They don't care about they're just defending the deportations. They
don't care, they don't care what's going on, and so
they want to create it it's us against them, It's
white Americans against the rest of those brownie legals.

Speaker 5 (15:38):
That's right. I mean, their goal is to divide us.
What they're not saying is in a court of law.
You can say anything on TV, but in a court
of law, they have not gone on and said, this
man is a member of MS thirteen. Here were the
evidence to deport him. Here is why we did it

(16:00):
and what we're gonna do to fix it, because they're
not gonna get any barred attorney to go out there
and assert those things. One thing to do it from
a podium, so it's another thing to do it in
the court of law. They're not gonna go do that.
This is ultimately not about any one person. It's about
all of us. It's about the rule of law. If
Donald Trump can do this with this test case, it's

(16:21):
why he started with so called undocumented people. He started
with undocumented people, then he moved to people who were
here legally even though they weren't citizens. That's the category
that mister Garcia finds himself in. He has an order
that says he can't be deported to El Salvador. He
can be deported other places, but not to El Salvador.

(16:44):
Now that could be because there's some kind of special
danger to him there. We don't know, right, We need
more evidence. The reason to bring him back isn't so
much because he's gonna stay here. It's because the court said,
if you were not sent away legally, you did not

(17:06):
have due process, you have to be brought back for
due process the alien enemies. That can work, but it
must be done under the guise of due process. You
must facilitate his return. And saying that if he miraculously
escapes the prison, you'll let him get on a plane
is not the same thing. It's facilitating his return. Being

(17:27):
able to go to your embassy and ask for his return,
and if facilitated and say we would like him to
be returned. We made a mistake. That's what facilitating the
return is.

Speaker 3 (17:36):
Right.

Speaker 5 (17:36):
So it's something going on here that is dark and ugly.

Speaker 2 (17:39):
So the thing here, Zachary is simple. It's in the
first ball. It's real simple. What they're doing. They flat
out want to make this sound like we're getting rid
of these people. The Democrats are trying to keep them.
They don't care that they're breaking the law, they don't
care that they're they're defying a federal judge's ruly. They

(18:00):
don't care and these federal judges are going to have
to wake up and they're gonna to start jailing people
literally saying okay Steven Miller, okay, attorney set they asked
with the headcuffs and then put him in the jail
because clearly y'all don't want to pay attention. Y'all want
to follow the law. So you're going to cool off
in the federal jail.

Speaker 12 (18:21):
Absolutely right, Absolutely right.

Speaker 16 (18:23):
This is so much bigger than what is happening with
one father from Bossmore, Maryland, who is being detained, who
is sent over to El Salvager's Way concentration camp.

Speaker 12 (18:34):
My prayer is that he is still alive.

Speaker 16 (18:36):
My prayers that he is still with the living, that
he can be returned to the United States to go
through the process.

Speaker 12 (18:41):
This man may be MS thirteen. I don't believe he is.
I don't believe he is.

Speaker 16 (18:45):
I believe that he's a person in this country seeking
acide who has earned the right and has gone through
the legal process, whose wife is an American citizens. Democrats
are protecting the people in this country who are having
their rights stripped away illegally by an authority government, an
authoritarian regime, an authoritarian administration that we put in through

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democratic process, and so Democrats in this country are fighting
for those people, fighting for every single one of us.
Donald Trump pam bonding his administration. Republicans who are elected
are using this as their test case to push against
the separation of powers that exist in our government and
take over power from the judiciary, to not only ignore

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federal courts, but to ignore the rule of the Supreme Court.
Even Clarence Thomas, Justice Clarence Thomas, the most bought and
sold man I have ever seen served an American politics,
sided with the majority and said this man should be
brought back to the United States and regardless of what
he has done or will, deserves due process as guaranteed
under the constitutional Constitution of the United States, the fourteenth Amendment,

(19:52):
and the Trump administrations is still saying we're not going
to do it. We're not going to comply, We're not
going to make this happen. This is a con constitutional
crisis that we are all living through that will bring
about the downfall of American democracy if we don't find
some way to stop it.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
They absolutely Voogal says they want to establish a standard
we do not have to follow any rulings or any
laws that we don't agree with.

Speaker 17 (20:20):
And this is why it is important for us to
research the facts. Because in twenty nineteen, the judge, a judge,
I think a federal judge, did tell the courts that, hey.

Speaker 14 (20:30):
Look, keep him here because if he goes.

Speaker 17 (20:33):
Back to El Salvador, guess what they will.

Speaker 14 (20:37):
Come at him.

Speaker 5 (20:39):
MS. Thirteen.

Speaker 17 (20:40):
The gang threatened his family. That's in the documents.

Speaker 3 (20:45):
That was proven.

Speaker 17 (20:47):
So if we don't do our research, you will allow
for this to happen. And I'm glad you brought up
the Bernie Sanders situation in two thousand and three.

Speaker 9 (20:54):
Is this.

Speaker 17 (20:55):
If they can do this to him, they can do
this to all of us.

Speaker 14 (21:00):
I mean, he already said that he would do it.
That man is over here.

Speaker 17 (21:04):
Legally, judges told him to stay here. They said, keep
this man here in America. He is at risk for
losing his life. And yes, I hope he is alive today.
I hope he's alive. So if again, if they can
do this to any him, they can do this to anyone.

Speaker 14 (21:22):
This is not a joke.

Speaker 17 (21:24):
And I'm telling you do not be surprised if a
black person is next, which I fear is going to happen.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
See, I just need people to understand the level of
idiocy we're dealing with here, and also the goal is
to terrorize people. This took place in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
Federal agents caught on video smashing the car window and
arresting a Guatemalan immigrant with no criminal record as he

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and his wife awaited their attorney to rib at the stale.

Speaker 4 (22:04):
An undocumented Guatemalan man was arrested by federal agents after
they smashed his car window. Cell phone video shows Juan
Francisco Menendez and his wife surrounded by federal agents after
being pulled over in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Francisco Menendez called
his lawyer for help, and she told the couple to
hand the agent's her business card and tell them she

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was on her way. A federal agent is heard telling
the couple in Spanish that they can either do it
the quote easy way or the hard way, before threatening
to smash the car window. Minutes later, video shows an
agent smashed Francisco Menandez's car window with the hammer. Francisco

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Menandez's lawyer says he qualifies for a derivative asylum and
has no criminal record. His wife says he's now being
held at an ICED detention center in Dover, Hampshire. CNN
reached out to ICE for more information, but has not
heard back.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
See again, these people do not care. They don't care. Uh,
they will do whatever they want to.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
This right here is a full four minute, nine second video.

Speaker 3 (23:19):
Just watch this.

Speaker 8 (23:23):
All No, all right, you work out.

Speaker 7 (23:34):
That can't read it. It's up by her.

Speaker 18 (23:40):
Here you go, yes and the look see I don't
see Zachary.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
These are the same people.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
They arresting another dude who was literally on his way
to a hearing.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
He was walking into a hearing. They're like, nah, were
stating you back.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
People need to understand why they are, why there's a
thug behavior. This is a game show to them, This
is a television show. They want to see. We're being tough,
We're snatching them and people cheering, get them, get them.
This is a television show for Donald Trump and Macca.

Speaker 16 (24:35):
People are going to lose their lives, and people are
losing their lives behind what is being done right now
and every single black person because this is about the
voice of black a miracle and that's what you want,
asks what you do, and the majority of your audience.
They're watching, and they are black. They are members of
the black community just like me and you. You do
watch this because in the same way they're coming after

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our brown brothers and sisters, they're going to come after
us in the exacts that same way. They start with
one group and they continue whatever if that is what
this is about, and they're pushing the limits of power
to see who they can get away with it on
and who's going and who's going to stand up, who's
going to fight back, what kind of public outrage is
going to be because that's the only mechanism and measure
of control that we have at our disposal to fight that.

(25:17):
This is criminal what they're doing. They know it's criminal
what they're doing, and they're seeing just how far they
can take it.

Speaker 2 (25:24):
Uh So, so political says watch this video here when
they ask do you have a war?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Do I have a warrant? Watch listen to.

Speaker 19 (25:32):
This orban orban what you can see? Then the other

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thing that.

Speaker 8 (26:05):
No, we don't.

Speaker 20 (26:21):
See.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
We also saw them snatch a college to not even
identifying themselves, and so in some cases you're like, who
the hell are you people?

Speaker 12 (26:31):
So what is Congress going to do?

Speaker 9 (26:32):
Right?

Speaker 17 (26:33):
Like, we're we're just allowed for this to happen. What
is Congress going to do? And I'm not talking about
the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
They're brave. I gotta give it to them.

Speaker 17 (26:40):
They are in a Salvador trying to do the damn thing.
But what are the Republicans going to do?

Speaker 3 (26:45):
Nothing? It's not the Republicans.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
The Republicans are in the pocket of Trump that the
Republicans are cheering.

Speaker 3 (26:51):
They're cheering this on.

Speaker 14 (26:53):
You know, they're not.

Speaker 17 (26:54):
They're not going to stop right until somebody dies, like
Zach said, and they're still not going to stop.

Speaker 5 (27:02):
What is good about this?

Speaker 17 (27:04):
People are okay with this because it's not happening to them,
But why does it have to happen to them for
them to be concerned? Like the judge says, But basically,
we're in the we are in a constitutional crisis, and
they are okay with this. They're not just going to
stop there. We already see what they're doing with the
Safe Act. They're coming after all these white women who.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Voted for him.

Speaker 17 (27:26):
Guess what they're coming after your ass next. They don't
even want you to vote for vote anymore. They don't
want you to vote anymore. So Now, what do you
have if you don't have your voice.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Well, what we're saying here, Joy is very simple. A
party that there's always law and order, law and order,
law and order. You must follow the law, you must comply.
And they are openly saying that we're not complying, we
don't care.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Correct, they've never been about lawn order. They are liars.
If that were the case the now, everyone who is
a part of January sixth would still be in jail.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
Right.

Speaker 5 (28:05):
These are criminal actors, believe me, in the Republican Party.
But it's worse than that. They are afraid because they
have seen Donald Trump coming, I think even longer than
some of us have, and they are responding in kind.
This is some of them are responding out of fear.
So to the point of where is Congress, Because let
me tell you, if you can start with undocumented, then

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move to people who have legal status but are not citizens.
Where they're going next are citizens that are in jail.
They'll start there and then they'll move on to other
types of citizens, citizens who just don't agree with the administration.
They're working up to. They want to get Liz Cheney,
they want to find a way to arrest her right,
they'll find ways to all of us. And these Republicans

(28:48):
understand it that in many respects they feel afraid they
are powerless to stop it. In their minds, that is
what part of this is doing. And they have to
keep supporting this person because they understand what will happen
to them. First, if you are Mike Pince, he tried
to kill his own vice president. We're not being alarmist here.

(29:09):
We're telling you what happened so that we can get
in the way of it. That's where this is going.
So they absolutely will have to do something about it.
Right now, we've got to be evaluating these what are
the avenues to Congress and the courts well to a
block of authoritarian government.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Well, first of all, they average is real clear botb
line is it has to be the courts. But again,
if they choose to say prosecute out of criminal contempt,
the dj is going to do whatever they want to.
Pam Bondi is nothing bored than Unlackey for Donald Trump.
There's no independence there. And so these people want to
continue their thuggish behavior, going to go to break we
come back speaking.

Speaker 3 (29:44):
Of this thuggish behavior.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Now, Donald Trump wants the RS to pull the tech
exempt status of Harvard because Harvard refuses to bow down
and kiss his ass. We'll discuss that next. Roland I
got to filter on the Blacksto Network.

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Speaker 15 (30:48):
I'm Russell ol Honoree Lieutenant Gerald, United States.

Speaker 3 (30:51):
Are retired, and you're watching Roland Martin. I'm healthy.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
Trump said We're gonna withhold two point two billion dollars
from Harvard, and Harvard was like, I cole, we got
a fifty three.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
Billion dollar endowment.

Speaker 2 (31:09):
After that, Mit said Hey, we're not going to bend
the need to you as well. Now, all of a sudden,
Trump and his maggots, they are now saying, oh, they
should lose their task exim status.

Speaker 3 (31:25):
This is what the idiot the.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
Twice impeached, criminally convicted felling in cheap Donald the Cohn
Trump posted on his crappy social media app. Perhaps Harvard
should lose his tastic exem status and be taxed as
a political entity if it keeps pushing political ideological and
terrorists inspired supporting sickness. Remember that man's English is awful. Remember,

(31:51):
tast exim status is totally contingent on acting in the
public interest.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
DNN then reports that the IRS is working to do
that very same thing. Now what is this about? Well,
this really about it is they're not bending their knee.
Let me say it again. They're not violing. They're not
Kyle towing like the law firms did.

Speaker 7 (32:19):
See.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
See, this is the mistake that you make when you
negotiate with a thug like Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
You negotiate with the thug. The thug is never satisfied.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
The thug comes back and ask for more, like he's
doing with the law firms. This is the C and
N story rs making plans to receive Harvest's tax exemptstat
as they say they According to sources, a found decision
on rescinding the university's tax exhibit is expected soon. This

(32:52):
is about how dare you not suck up and hire
who we want?

Speaker 3 (32:58):
Harvard.

Speaker 2 (32:59):
We want you to admit hardcore conservative students. Oh CNN,
y'all need to be hiring more mac Republicans. I thought
they were all about merit. It sounds like they want
MAGA white affirmative action, Zachary.

Speaker 16 (33:17):
It's one hundred percent what they're wanting, one hundred percent
because you've had organizations capitulating. Now they're saying that everyone's
going to do it. And the thought that they would
go to our Ivory League institution is really to any
institution of higher learning, any institution period that is focused
on learning and tell them what they must do in
order to give funds is criminal. But this is what

(33:37):
I want to see. That's fine, you want to play
this game now. I want Democrats when we retake the
House in twenty twenty six and when we retake the
Oval Office in twenty eight, I want to see them
take away the tax exempt status of evangelical churches all
around this country, and every single Sunday in the poolpit
to advocate for Donald Trump, to campaign for Donald Trump,

(33:59):
and to misalign the teaching that you just christ from
that pool upit and misaligned to Donald Trump.

Speaker 12 (34:03):
I want them to lose detexts.

Speaker 10 (34:05):
If satus, then.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Oh yeah, that'll be quite fascinating. Political says, why would
they do that?

Speaker 14 (34:11):
Zach Right, They're not going to do that.

Speaker 17 (34:14):
But this reminds me this is why he likes dictators.
Right again, this is part of history. This is what
you know Hitler did. This is what Putin did. This
is nothing new. This is how they maintained their power. This,
I mean, this is no coincidence that he's doing this
with law firms and law firms. This is how they
maintained power. But the problem is, I mean, this doesn't

(34:37):
have to happen. This is it doesn't if Congress. If
Republicans will get a damn spine and don't worry about it,
if they're not reelected again and focus on their country,
that's what's supposed to come first.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Politicals come on, That's that's that's wasted breath, asking Republicans
to get us right, you're right asking them to get
a spine and extremely wasted breathing.

Speaker 17 (34:58):
That the only damn thing that we can do, hopefully
is just encourage our damn people to get out there
to vote.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
Right.

Speaker 14 (35:05):
It's the only damn thing we can do, like.

Speaker 17 (35:07):
Zach said, because if we don't, this is going to
ship fast.

Speaker 16 (35:12):
But one Jordan, you know, and a small aside in
the level of power does resist with Republicans. But it's
not elected Republicans. It's the Republican constituents in those districts.
And we're seeing those Republicans stand up in aiole. We're
seeing them stand up uh in Indiana. We're seeing them
go and confront these people in town halls. We even
saw them confront Marty Taylor Green in a district that

(35:35):
wasn't even her district because her district has way too
many unhappy Republicans and too many Democrats in their redistricting process.
So she went to another congressional district to have her
and she still got her ass handed to her.

Speaker 12 (35:47):
We've got to have Republicans the voters.

Speaker 16 (35:50):
Republican voters realized that they fucked up, realize that they're
in pain, and they're going to have to put their
produteside on up to the fact that they are they
made some bad decisions and.

Speaker 12 (36:01):
Push these people to do the right thing. They're the
ones we have the power.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
But joy I saw, joy I saw I saw pulling
down that said the only places where Trump is not
underwater rule white men, no college degree.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
That's right. I mean, look, you know those are constituents,
and frankly, with rural America, with these attacks on Medicaid,
he's about to lose them because they're about to lose
their hospitals, so good luck with that. With the ending
of the Affordable Connectivity program, they're about to lose their
ability to have affordable broadband. So you know, we'll see

(36:42):
how they are with rural Americans and what that continues. Look,
the fact of the matter is Republicans can sue. That
is one of the things not just Republican excuse me,
Congress can sue. Now we have some Democratic members who
are beginning to file lawsuits to defend the right of
their branch right. So that's what this is also about.
It's about having three coedual branches and one branch, the

(37:05):
executive branch, encroaching upon the rights of the legislative branch,
so frankly, Speaker Johnson ought to be representing his branch
in and of itself. The founders never anticipated that one
branch will capitulate to the other. We stand on the
fact of having separation of powers, but even without that,
other Republicans can come together to force him to sue

(37:26):
to say, look, we have to defend our territory here
the other And this's happening at some of the committee levels,
but not at the top level, which is where we needed.
The other thing is if you are a Republican in
a district that is you know, a little more purple right,
having your members put pressure on you perhaps to change

(37:47):
your party affiliation. There are one in two people away
from losing their control of the House right, which would
and it is not as much of a problem. So
we could also have a Republican he was used to
switch parties because that's where we are here.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Well, like, I ain't got no hope that's gonna happen,
So I'm just letting you'all know that. But let's we
do want to talk about again the thug behavior. You
talk about what they're trying to do with the RS
This is some really really thug behavior. So Donald Trump
has tapped this blathering id idiot who actually wants to
get rid of the RS, to be the RS Commissioner.

(38:24):
But the lever News report of this yere Trump IRS
pick just enriched by tax schemers. New documents showed Billy
Long's one hundred and thirty thousand dollars personal debt was
suddenly paid off by donors at firms police but the
Tax agency lead. Yeah, that's right there in the story.
That's the whole deal right here. So talk about the payoff.

(38:47):
We still wondering political systs who the hell paid off
the debts of Brett Cavanaugh.

Speaker 3 (38:53):
We're on the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
But this is somebody who's supposed to be overseeing of
the RS and speaking the R as well. The tax
filing system ris tax filing system. The Trump administration desperately
wants to get rid of a direct file. Now, mind you,
what was direct file created? Direct file was created so

(39:16):
taxpayers can file their taxes for free. But guests who
opposed it, all of the tax preparation companies and guests
who poured money into Trump's bank accounts. The tax preparation
companies I'm confused. Why would you want to get rid

(39:37):
of a program that it helps regular ordinary people. Oh,
that's right, political says, you don't give a damn about
regular ordinary people, but you do care about rich donors.

Speaker 14 (39:50):
We already established this. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (39:52):
I mean thirteen, He has at least thirteen billionaires in
his cabinet right now. That is over four hundred and
fifty billion dollar dollars. Think about that, over four hundred
and four hundred and fifty billion dollars. Do y'all really
think this man gives a damn about the ordinary person,
the average person, the working class person, that person that

(40:13):
lives in the rural area that always vote for his
ass No, he does not, and he will not.

Speaker 14 (40:19):
Of course, they want.

Speaker 5 (40:19):
To get rid of the RS.

Speaker 17 (40:21):
I don't even know what's going to have a time taxes.
Are anybody going to have to pay taxes this year?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Anybody going to have to pay tax Right? Check this out, Joy,
go back to my iPad.

Speaker 3 (40:31):
Henry. Direct file was rolled out as a pilot program.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
In twenty twenty four after the IRS was tasked with
looking into how to create a direct file system as
part of the money it received from the Inflation Reduction Act,
sign into law by Biden in twenty twenty two. The
Democratic administration ten put tens of millions of dollars in
develop development program. Oh but the RIS faced intense blowback

(40:56):
to direct File from private tax preparation of companies that
have made eight billions from charging people to use their software,
and they have spent millions lobbying Congress. The average American
typically spends about one hundred and forty bucks a year
preparing returns. Each year, the RS excepted one hundred and
eight hundred and three returns filed by taxpayers using direct

(41:18):
file in the twelve states where it was available last
tax season. It was expanded to include half the country
this year. It's unclear how many taxpayers I have used
direct file this year.

Speaker 3 (41:28):
It's all about the money for the big companies.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
That's why Kemp said he never he never gave a
damn about working people, of regular ordinary people. Those idiots
they voted for this line blabbering food, and now they're
gonna have to pay for it.

Speaker 5 (41:45):
That is correct. They're gonna pay for it across a
range of areas. Here's the thing. If you are a
tax preparing company, you could do things to get additional customers.
You could provide a better product. You could provide a
product that's a little cheaper so that people can say,
you know what, maybe I want to use a tax
preparer because it reduces any kind of error, or I

(42:06):
want to I mean like, there are lots of things
you can do in America where capitalist system make a
better product. The consumers never wrong. They've chosen a different avenue,
one that is free for them, one that results in
properly file taxes. Because we work to make the tax
system more fair and a little more democratic and a

(42:28):
little uneasier for people who have simple tax returns. That's
as we should be doing. We're paying taxes and it
shouldn't be difficult to us. That is ridiculous. If you
are a tax preparer, you should be working to make
a better product, not fighting people having a better way
to file their taxes. The scene and Donald Trump is

(42:51):
aligned with these people, dictators and people that would thwart
you could your consumer right.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
Well, my line is it's all about the billionaire's pure
and simple quick brant we come back. We all knew
Robert F. Kenny Junr was stupid, But wait, I play
out with this food said about people's autism that man
I think he's still on Heroin. Folks will be right

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Roles of the globe.

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Speaker 2 (45:08):
All right, Robert Cannon Junior is pretty stupid. He's the
secretary of Healthy Team of Services. We knew was an idiot.
His family members told us he was an idiot. I
mean they said, do not confirm this dumb ass. Listen
to what this fool said today about people with autism.

Speaker 24 (45:22):
Sir, This is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families.
More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children.
These are children who should not be who should not
be suffering like this. These are kids who, many of them,
were fully functional and regressed because of some environmental exposure

(45:48):
into autism when they're two years old. And these are
kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job,
they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll
never go out on a date. Many of them will
never use a toilet unassisted. And we have to recognize

(46:12):
we are doing this to our children. Roll that, sir,
This is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families.

(46:34):
More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children.
These are children who should not be who should not
be suffering like this. These are kids who, many of them,
were fully functional and regressed because of some environmental exposure
into autism when they're two years old. And these are

(46:56):
kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job,
I'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll
never go out on a date. Many of them will
never use a toilet unassisted. And we have to recognize
we are doing this to our children.

Speaker 3 (47:20):
They're not going to date, they're not going to use
the be able to use the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (47:25):
They're not going to they're not going to have whole
jobs or pay taxes. Holly Robinson Pete, the actress, her
son has autism. She was livid. We were texting early
and she said, I'm posting my response to that. I'll
go to my iPad. This is what she said. My
twenty seven year old son with autism didn't quote destroy

(47:46):
our family. He gave us purpose in unity. Oh and
he pays taxes. Political says, what the hell?

Speaker 5 (47:56):
I take this so personally.

Speaker 14 (47:58):
This is really personal to me, my best friend and son.

Speaker 5 (48:01):
You know he has autism, and.

Speaker 17 (48:03):
To sit there and exploit families like this is just wrong.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
It's the same damn thing that.

Speaker 17 (48:09):
He did when he went over there into the other country.

Speaker 14 (48:12):
I can't think of the name right now.

Speaker 17 (48:13):
It starts with an S and told them people that
the measle vaccines was not worth it.

Speaker 7 (48:19):
Don't do it.

Speaker 17 (48:20):
Over eighty damn people died, most of them kids.

Speaker 14 (48:24):
This shit is not okay, and that.

Speaker 5 (48:26):
Motherfucker can go do.

Speaker 17 (48:28):
I'm not gonna say that, but he's a damn lie
because my son, my best friend's son, that is one
of the best things that ever happens to her and
her husband and her daughter into me, because he brings
joy every damn time I walk in that damn door
to me, somebody needs to get rid of his ass
because what he's doing is lying about kids, all kids,

(48:51):
it's different spectrums. We don't even know what the fuck
he's talking about. He don't know what he's talking about.
As if they don't feel Lord, they don't love, what
the fuck is he talking about? So I take that person, Yeah,
I really do. I take that with a person, and
it's sad. I'm sorry, Joy.

Speaker 5 (49:10):
No, no, no, you're right. We all take it personally.
I have an autistic child, you know, in my life
through one of my friends as well, and it really
and and probably more right, autism. There are many there
are many ends of the autistic spectrum, right, So you
know there are many people who are high functioning like
any of us on this call, and many who have
more severe disability. So you know what you know. Robert Kennedy,

(49:35):
he is obviously a liar. He's obviously someone who does
not guard his words carefully. He does not have respect
for the office that he is holding. He shouldn't have it.
His own family has said he shouldn't have it. He's
been destructive. What he has been is destructive to his family.

(49:56):
He has been a blight on his family's legacy and now,
unfortunately he's been unleashed onto the rest of US and
the country that he went to told those lies to
which resulted in eighty deaths of people who believed him
with Samoa. And so you know, this is an irresponsible person.

(50:19):
He needs to focus on what's happening in his agency,
which he admitted this week he doesn't even know where
all the cuts are his agency exactly.

Speaker 12 (50:29):
You know, Well, let me give us a statistic.

Speaker 16 (50:31):
I was fortunate enough to serve as a public school
educated for seventeen years, and in that timeframe, I worked
for ten years in a high school that was the
county's autism unit.

Speaker 12 (50:42):
Seventy nine percent.

Speaker 16 (50:44):
Of children who are living, learning, and thriving with autism
are able to use the restroom on their own with
zero assistance at the time they are five years old.

Speaker 12 (50:56):
That's a fact right there.

Speaker 16 (50:57):
And the fact that this man is sitting in his
see and doesn't know that and would get on a
national stage until the whole world something that's completely unch
you in opposite, it should be extremely alarming to everyone.
To everyone, it's offensive, it's wrong, and it's bad science,
just like all the science this has been has brought
to the American people. And then he's doing time and
time and time again.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
They will and I just I just sit here and
again I'm telling you these people they are insane. I
don't know, there's no other word you can describe they are.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
You're insane.

Speaker 2 (51:33):
And as Adam Surr wrote in the Atlantic last time,
he said, cruelty is the point.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
That is the point.

Speaker 2 (51:41):
That is what they are all about. That is what
they are fixated on.

Speaker 3 (51:46):
It is about cruelty.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
It is how they treat people, how they how they
how they just destroy people.

Speaker 3 (51:54):
That's who they are. Robert F.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Kennedy Junior is an absolute idiot and that worm has
to be expanding in his damn brain.

Speaker 3 (52:04):
All right, y'all going to go to break. We come back,
say to Gusta's University.

Speaker 2 (52:08):
We had our panel there on our town hall there
on Friday, Detroit. Pastor is asking some questions like where
in the hell is.

Speaker 3 (52:16):
The fifty thousand dollars I sent? Y'all.

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(52:47):
who we're in the process of becoming.

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Speaker 3 (53:31):
All right, folks.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
As you know, we were in Raleigh, North Carolina on
Friday for our town hall Saint Augusta's University.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
We learned a whole lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 (53:39):
We've received numerous calls and emails about other issues related
to the school's finances. Well, I got text message from
a pastor in Detroit who hit me and said he
done any fifty thousand dollars to a scholarship fund, but
can't get any answers about it. Reverend Hororce Sheffield Third,
the CEO of the Detroit Station of Black Organizations, ain't

(54:02):
jones us right now?

Speaker 3 (54:04):
That's good to see you.

Speaker 20 (54:05):
Hey man, I'm glad to be on the air with
the Independent Voice and the wilderness, you know. And you
you don't throw a rock man, you kind of shoot
the missile.

Speaker 2 (54:16):
Well, my man, comedian Chris Paul, he always calls me
a Twitter sniper, And I said, I said, look, I
will swing on you, uh and take you out. So
I ain't got no problem. I ain't got no problem
doing that. So that's how we roll. Let me, let's
sit here and let's let's talk about a couple of things.

(54:39):
Let's talk about a couple of things, folks. And first,
so when we send an email, you're gonna love this.
We sent an email in an email to Sen Augustins
saying we were discussing this. They they sent us an
email at five fifty nine pm, right before we went live.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
This is the statement that they sent us send.

Speaker 2 (54:58):
Agustin's University would like to express our sincere gratitude to
Reverend Hororce Sheffield the third for his past generosity and
support of our institution. We are aware of recent concerns
shared regarding a claim of fifty thousand dollars in donations
made to the university. Our records indicate that a total
of thirty thousand dollars in cash contributions was received, twenty
five thousand designated for student scholarships, and five thousand dollars

(55:21):
designated as a sponsorship for the university's Jazz Brunch. Due
to administrative transitions and changes and staffing over the past
three years, our current Financial Aid and Advancement team are
actively reviewing the application.

Speaker 3 (55:33):
Of these funds during that period.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
While we have not previously received an inquiry from Reverend
Sheffield regarding this matter, we're more than willing to provide
a comprehensive report once our internal review is complete. Despite
significant challenges, saying Augustin's University is working diligently to address
the gaps of previous administrations and strengthen our stewardship of
donor intent, transparency, and institutional accountability. These internal efforts are

(55:58):
critical to our commitment to re pairing and rebuilding the
trust of our alumni, donors, and the broader community.

Speaker 3 (56:04):
Yes stated in previous.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
Communications, our current leadership team focuses on three urgent priorities,
maintaining accreditation through these sacs, a seoc arbitration process, securing
vital funding to ensure long term financial sustainability and supporting
our students, especially graduating seniors, through the remainder of the semester.
For these regions, the university's president and Board of Trustees

(56:26):
are not currently participating in media engagements. We thank Reverend
Sheffield for support and appreciate the continued belief in the
mission in the future of Saint Augustu's University of our
alumni and donors.

Speaker 20 (56:40):
Well, I don't know where to begin. Lean first of all,
say that I didn't know how much had been given.
I did make a commitment of fifty thousand dollars. I'm
not a millionaire, so that's significant money to me, and
I was trying to find out doctor macphel was there.
They were extremely attentive. They visited Detroit. I opened my
build up, the same one you spoken. You see Saint

(57:02):
Augustine's logo on the outside of that building, registering students
and trying.

Speaker 7 (57:06):
To help with whatever I could.

Speaker 20 (57:08):
But what concerns me with the email you got reviewing
the application of these funds. I've been asking for three
years where's the money at? And I've had many conversations.
They actually referred me to someone who I guess manages
the funds, and I was told by the university and
them that all of their money had been frozen and
even donor money was tied up and nothing could happen

(57:32):
with it.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
So when they say, when they say we have not
had any inquity for River Sheffield, that's a lot that's
not true.

Speaker 7 (57:39):
I've talked to administrators.

Speaker 20 (57:41):
I've talked to one of them referred me to where
the money is supposedly being managed. But what I got
from all of them was because of the financial situation
at the school, that all their funds have been frozen. Well,
how can designated money be frozen? And even the response,
I mean, I went to the law school for two

(58:02):
years reviewing the application of these funds, so they almost
admitting that they spent them.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
And that's the only.

Speaker 20 (58:10):
Reason they don't have the other twenty five because I
couldn't get any real answer about this. Now, I donated
this money in the honor of my sister, doctor Levon
Sheffield superintendent schools all over country work with Bill Malindigates
of you know, just a brilliant scholar and you know
so I'm still conserved.

Speaker 7 (58:30):
And not only.

Speaker 20 (58:31):
That, by the way, Roland, I've also have a few
students that I personally paid tuition for and assisted financially
as well.

Speaker 3 (58:41):
See what jumps out here. This is the where it's
supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (58:46):
When somebody gives, they're supposed to be a designated account
where that money is housed. It's not supposed to be
used for general purposes. It's not supposed to be tapped
into no matter who comes in and leaves. As president,
your financial situation is supposed to be solid where.

Speaker 3 (59:07):
You know exactly where the money is.

Speaker 2 (59:11):
And so perfect example, I gave twenty five thousand dollars
to the Houston Independent School District for scholarships at my
high school, Jack Yates High School. One is supposed to
be two per year, one for general population students.

Speaker 3 (59:27):
And one for our school of Communications.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
And so for me, I'm able to sit here and go,
I know how many years we've given that, so I
know how much it's left in that particular scholarship fund.
I can pick the phone up or send an email,
and like matter of fact, I'm gonna do that because
I always go down to Houston when we hand out
the scholarship. So my deal, they're gonna be getting an

(59:52):
email from me tonight or tomorrow said hey, I need
to date when we are giving out the scholarship.

Speaker 3 (59:59):
This is not that complicated.

Speaker 20 (01:00:01):
No, And you know, here's the issue for me, the
reason I wanted to do this interview.

Speaker 8 (01:00:06):
I mean, I you know, have.

Speaker 7 (01:00:09):
Some basic issues with self governing boards.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
I mean absolutely.

Speaker 20 (01:00:13):
I mean I don't know how anyone could survive in
an institution like that. If the board alone has has
no one above them or below them, they can make
them do any kind of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:00:24):
So I'm not trying to both smoke.

Speaker 20 (01:00:26):
Out my nose like you roll and I work hard
for my money. You don't know want my money to
work there. I wanted to work and I'm telling you
I've had at least three people I spoke with this
at this university.

Speaker 7 (01:00:38):
In fact was I was signed.

Speaker 20 (01:00:40):
Up to teach New Testament and religious studies and I've
got several degrees, enrolled students, and then this Documentpheil was
let go. And I will also tell you I know
for a fact that someone else was let go there
because they went into endowment money don't no money and
transferred it with a phone call right to wherever the

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money was.

Speaker 7 (01:01:03):
It had a transfer to the university.

Speaker 20 (01:01:06):
So I mean that's why I put a hawk on
the other twenty five thousand, and I just want to
know where my money was and what I think. Maybe
one of the reasons there's been some hesitancy is I'm
also very involved with Waynekon of Community College District, which
is eighty thousand primary African students, and I thought about
transferring the money over there where, you know, it could

(01:01:28):
have more local impact. I know the chancellor, doctor Ivy
very well and he pours into my organization, and I
just brought that up. You know, can I get my
money since I'm not satisfied number one with what's happened
to doctor mcphel. You know, I don't know if you
know about some of the land deals that took place there. Yeah,
I mean, it's a whole bunch of stuff. And then

(01:01:51):
when I saw your program and you talk with the
gentleman who's been successful and get an accreditation for some
HBC used it.

Speaker 7 (01:02:00):
Lost it and they not even returned the phone call.
That bothered me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
See what the issue that I have here and this
is see, here's what people need to understand. And now
I love these folks who always running their mouths. I
interned at the Houston Defender in nineteen ninety. One of
the first stories I wrote that summer was when the

(01:02:27):
board got rid of at Texas out the university's president,
James Douglas, did an audit and they discovered lax financial
lax financial standards, and how scholarship money was being used
and diverted to other programs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
That was nineteen ninety. So let's be real clear.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
For thirty five years, I have been reporting on various things, good, bad,
and ugly at HBCUs.

Speaker 3 (01:02:58):
So when you text.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
Me, I knew exactly, Uh you know what this was
and and this whole and all this well, you know,
we were reviewing and we're looking at this, and we're
doing this and well, you know, our board and our administration.

Speaker 3 (01:03:15):
Let's just be real clear. That's a bunch and you
passed us.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
So I ain't gonna cuss in this segment, but they're
gonna make me cuss.

Speaker 3 (01:03:21):
It's a bunch of bs. I have had a crocker
it right, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
Know, it's it's uh, it's I mean again.

Speaker 3 (01:03:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
First of all, ass is in the is in the Bible,
so I could use that word. Bishop William Barber gave
me that permission. But here's the thing that's crazy to me.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
I've had numerous HBCU presidents on this show. I've had
presidents I can't remember, Carroll, remind.

Speaker 3 (01:03:51):
Me what the school was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:52):
We had one HBCU that was going through accreditation problems,
had financial problems.

Speaker 2 (01:03:59):
They can on the show. These people are hiding from
the public. You can if you got all those First
of all, y'all give me the board members. If you
got a president. Now, if the communication person got time
to send us emails, he got time to come on
the show, that's six board members right here, go ahead,

(01:04:21):
seventy nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Is that it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
That's thirteen board members.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
That you got a president. You got other people.

Speaker 25 (01:04:30):
So all y'all busy, y'all can't talk to the public,
but you want the public to support you financially, right, Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:04:42):
I think that.

Speaker 20 (01:04:44):
The motion, And I heard you mentioned this during that
broadcast of the self appointing board.

Speaker 7 (01:04:50):
You know they.

Speaker 20 (01:04:51):
Get public money, they get scholarship moneys from the National
Negro College. From all of that seems to me, it
lends itself to some kind of public scrutiny. They make
decisions among themselves that effect that institution in the great weight,
I say to you right now, I'm more concerned than

(01:05:11):
I was before. When I got the letters at review
reviewing the application of these fronts, were already know how
the fund's supposed to be applied. Now the five thousand dollars,
they win a basketball tournament and they were having a
bunch wherever this was being held, and they didn't have
enough sponsorship money. So I wrote an additional five thousand
for that. That's not a part of of the fifty.

(01:05:33):
I froze my giving when I couldn't get answers. I
knew people who worked there by the way, I called
the President's office, who actually told me where most of
the moneies were, and I made some inquiries there as well,
and I just, you know, was told basically that all
all school money has been frozen. And I don't know

(01:05:57):
how you freeze my money when you know it was
given with the intent to help students who had a
tough time graduating. I mean, you and I both know
the value of a real education and the difference that
it makes. My great grandmother is to be one hundred
and twelve. She had a third grade education. She said,
you know that she walked. She would walk miles for

(01:06:19):
a fourth grade, fourth grade education, and she wanted to
make certain the other folks that have to go where
she went through, so that that kind of governs what
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:06:26):
You know, Well, listen, it's legitimate if anybody gives money
for a scholarship fund. First of all, you want to
know where the money is. And the second thing is
you want to know who's getting the scholarships, how are
you awarding it, what's the process? What's the standard here?
Those are just some basic questions.

Speaker 20 (01:06:45):
Well, the real question is this and the reason that
it prompted my concern is when you hear the school
is about to close, I mean, all the financial woes
they have. The first question I have is where's my
money in that?

Speaker 2 (01:06:59):
You know, because you may decide to say, hey, let
me take my balance and take it to another HBCU.

Speaker 20 (01:07:06):
Right right, But I could never get an accounting for
the money, of where the money was, who was managing
the money.

Speaker 7 (01:07:15):
And still I tell you, as we sit and.

Speaker 20 (01:07:18):
Talk that line reviewing the application of these funds, there's
nothing to review.

Speaker 7 (01:07:23):
We know how funds is supposed to be applied.

Speaker 20 (01:07:26):
All right, they'll come here, you know, retroactively telling them
you gave money to this student and that student because.

Speaker 7 (01:07:32):
The other thing. And I'm gonna find the agreement that
I was.

Speaker 20 (01:07:35):
Supposed to be involved boom, and some of the designation
of this money.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
There you go see and get sat Listen, this is
what I need people to understand. This is not about
an extra grind. This is not about well, why you
picking on Saint Augustine's folks always say that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:57):
Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
I heard the same nonsense from the dude down there
Bathoune Cookman when fist got rid of a president and
I call them out. The board chair had an attitude
about that as well. I can go down the line.
But then I can show you all these other folks
who said, man, thank you, there's a show out here
that's giving some limelight to the good things and the
great things happening at our HBCUs. And again, if you

(01:08:22):
want us to cover the good stuff, but the bad
stuff happened, that stuff gonna get cover too. And I
had people that fam you who were cussing my name
when we talked about what went on down there with
the band and the food and all kinds of stuff
like that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:36):
But then I had people walking to me, praising.

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
And thanking me, parents and alumni saying, man, I'm sure
glasd somebody hit them with their light. And so there's
a reason that Oda B. Wells's portrait is sitting in
our studio where her quote you shine the light upon
them in darkness. There's a reason we have that. And
HBCU folk, this is real simple. If you want people

(01:08:59):
to stay with you and support you, and you got
to give real answers and Saint Augustine's as you laid out,
they have not done that with a lot of different people,
and that's why they're in the trouble they're in now.

Speaker 7 (01:09:12):
And we ought to go back to the days again.

Speaker 20 (01:09:14):
My great grandmother had been a slave dowed in nineteen six,
two hundred and twelve, and when I came up Roland,
you know, we were told we had to do twice
as well.

Speaker 7 (01:09:25):
We always had to do better.

Speaker 20 (01:09:27):
And it's a reasonable expectation for us to make these
universities more accountable, especially in.

Speaker 7 (01:09:33):
The are in which we live.

Speaker 20 (01:09:35):
And so there has to be accountability. I mean, there
are all kinds of real estate deals that went on there,
leases and all that. I mean, I was privy to
that but I was also very comfortable with the leadership
in the way that you know, they worked with me
about how they were overcoming these things. So I'm not
trying to, you know, put a lid on them. I'm
trying to put a.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
Light on them.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:09:57):
Absolutely, Rever Schaffield. Whatever you're here, let us know, and.

Speaker 7 (01:10:01):
You know, I'm a fan of yours.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
You know that I appreciate it. I appreciate it, and.

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
We got to have it back. People still talking about
your visit over there.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
Well, I had a great time when I was in Detroit.
Would love to come back. But if I come back, Doc,
it got to be warmer.

Speaker 22 (01:10:16):
What is warm now?

Speaker 2 (01:10:17):
I raised the Lord, because Lord, it was because the
snow came down that night.

Speaker 3 (01:10:23):
It was cold. Listen.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
When I left, I was in Chicago six years. I vowed, man,
don't go to the Midwest seven months out of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:10:32):
But I still had a great time there.

Speaker 20 (01:10:33):
We see, I was told, I was told that only
you were you a rain make because you were a
snow chaser.

Speaker 7 (01:10:38):
So I don't know what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Now I can't I can't play golf when it's snowing,
So I don't know who said.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
That you see.

Speaker 2 (01:10:46):
I got my Houston Rocket shirt on. I believe in
the heat.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I appreciate it. Keep it the breast, thanks a lot
an exam.

Speaker 2 (01:10:54):
All right, So saying Augustus, get that man some dog
on answers. Don't we've been taking fifty thousand dollars and
then you don't you you don't see there and give
some folks some answers to man, I don't make you
the sense.

Speaker 3 (01:11:06):
And I'm tired of these excuses. And he coming. We're focusing.
We said that there are three things we're focused on. Man,
Please you know what. I'm gonna go ahead. I'm gonna
go ahead and say this here. Okay, Saint Augustus, answer
this for me.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Your president had time to sit down for an interview
with w R A L t V.

Speaker 3 (01:11:31):
Should I I'm sorry, should should I pull it up?
Should I pull up.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
The interview and show y'all see see this is my
problem here. Don't sit here and tell me you got
time to sit down with white media, but you can't
sit down with black media.

Speaker 3 (01:11:55):
Mm hmmm, mm hmm. See all that coverage there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Don't sit here and talk about how oh you've got
you know, you trying to sit here and raise money
and all that sort of stuff, but you ain't got
time to sit down with black on media.

Speaker 3 (01:12:17):
Mm hmmm mm hmm, Yeah, I said it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:24):
It's amazing how folks want to run from accountability and
you don't want to come talk to black owned media
that is always average.

Speaker 3 (01:12:37):
See see, y'all gonna make me.

Speaker 2 (01:12:39):
Let me just go ahead, just do this here, you
can go ahead. See so y'all need to understand something.
Let me just go ahead and do this here here
you can zoom that camera, so won't you zoom my
camera too? So some of y'all need to understand right here.
And I already told y'all all the HBCUs I've been too.
So some of y'all don't even realize right here in

(01:13:00):
our right here seees, y'all might be sitting there like, man, roll,
why you got all this stuff on your desk? So
just say, y'all understand, because see here's always the people
who are running their miles. Okay, see this here, This
was one of the Saint Augustin's shirt we got while
we were there. Okay, so just kid y'all confused, that's
a Saint Augustine shirt. Now when I spoke there several

(01:13:20):
years ago. This was the This was the hoodie they
gave me at Saint Augustine. But see, we ain't done here.
See some of y'all don't even understand. Okay, Fairville State University.
Let me go ahead, sit here, do a roll call. Okay,
that's somebody else shirt they mailed me, So I throw
that out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:13:41):
Okay, Well we got right here. Huh.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
It was Water University, Fort Valley State University. See said
some of y'all people want to question, you know, stay
right there. Some of y'all want to question. Y'all think
I'm joking. See, I got a whole closet here here. Well,
all of our HBCUs say, y'all think I'm joking.

Speaker 3 (01:14:04):
Okay, but Thune Cookman, Jackson State, Langston.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
University, Florida Memorial.

Speaker 3 (01:14:23):
Oh, we ain't done.

Speaker 2 (01:14:24):
What we got here, Winston, Salem State, More House, what
we got in here?

Speaker 9 (01:14:36):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:14:36):
Oh, Dealer University, Gramlin State.

Speaker 3 (01:14:45):
See this is all swag I only wear. I wear
a lot of that's on the show.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
I only wear swag on HBCU. As I've been to
the one hundred and seven, I've been to sixty of
them deal it, Tennessee State. See this is for the
Saint ag Administration.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
And Board, Bowish State. Since y'all think I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
Clapling, I love my HBCU.

Speaker 3 (01:15:20):
Let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania, Alabama A and M.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
Let's see here again, Claflin. That's a nice Clafland with
the C right there. What we got here, North Carolina Central.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
Somebody actually, some one of my fans actually made this
for me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
It's an HBCU track jacket.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
And you see they got Virginia State, Virginia Union, Alabama State,
Copper State Family for memorial Spellman, they got all of
these HBCUs on this jacket right here. Oh, I ain't done.
Y'all think I'm done, I ain't done. See Howard shut
up one of the fuck in the control room of
Howard students. She always out I at, she lowed as

(01:16:17):
one in there. Okay, Gramley gave me a track Grammar
gave me a track suit. Right here, I got depends
in here somewhere. Let's see who we got right here?
Who's this fam you? Who we got right here? Oh,
Virginia State gave me this uh sweater jacket appreciate that

(01:16:43):
I did that commencement.

Speaker 3 (01:16:45):
Let's see who we got.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Here, Virginia Union. Another Grambler's shirt. Who's rugby shirt?

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Is this? Laye College, North Carolina A and T. What
we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
North Carolina A and T. University of District of Columbia
Law School. Gramblin polo shirt?

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
What we got here?

Speaker 2 (01:17:30):
Another clapling. Let's see here another gram lit. But I
ain't done see see.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
Because see I need I need the.

Speaker 2 (01:17:41):
Saint All Board and as president to understand that we
ain't playing games over here, that we ain't joking around
when we talk about how we support HBCUs.

Speaker 3 (01:17:56):
But what we don't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:57):
Support is when folks don't want to sit here and
give us proper answers to what's going on, and when
other people are also asking lots of questions. Let me
see more house. Oh yeah, this wasn't playing, but I'm

(01:18:21):
gonna do it. But Thronne Cookman, that's somebody else Fort
Valley State. See, folks, send me hoodies and T shirts
I can wear in the winter and the summer.

Speaker 3 (01:18:36):
Who we got here? Alabama? Stak Harry Stowe.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Calm down, Southern here, y'all go Southern Jaguars. Let's see
who is this Fort Valley State? See, I got some
other people. Oh, we did the show at Edward Waters University.
Look all this about to fall at the Edward Waters University,

(01:19:05):
and so they gave me all sorts of swags. So
I got Edward Waters University, another Edward Waters, another Edward Waters,
Norfolk State, and then the Saint Og shirt that we
got we were there Friday. I know I got a
Clark Atlanta sweater. I don't know where it is. And

(01:19:26):
I might have some other swag in there. That's what
we got. So I need Hampton. Ain't give me no
Hampton gear. I spoke at Hampton two or three times. Say,
I told y'all i've been at HBCUs. If they ain't
give me no swag, I ain't got no swag. So
Hampton y'all might want to correct that. University of Virginia

(01:19:47):
Linsburg y'all need to send me something too.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
But let's see here.

Speaker 2 (01:19:53):
I know they got some Texas Southern right here. Texas Southern,
y'all ain't sent me nothing. I'm from Houston. Y'all should
be ashamed of y'all. Say el prayer view you too,
y'all want me to wear the stuff on the show.

Speaker 3 (01:20:03):
That's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:20:05):
But let's see. Oh I don't have I didn't bring it.
I know I got it somewhere. I think still at home. Wilberforce,
Central State. Y'all ain't sent me I supoke, did y'all commencement?
Y'all need to send me something too, Morgan State. I
think I got something from y'all, but I spoke to
But why am I saying all this?

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
Y'all? Can't nobody ever say that this show does not
support HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Can't nobody ever say that we don't elevate HBCUs. We
have HBCU professors on here, law school professors on here,
people in all kinds of different areas, and so we
do this here. Somebody said, Barbara Scotia, I ain't even
been to Barbara Scotia, our Corn State, our Corn State.

Speaker 3 (01:20:55):
Y'all ain't send me no gear. I've been to y'all campus.

Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Put y'all in, send me in the gear all y'all
all y'all in YouTube talking about where your school. If y'all,
if some of y'all don't see your school.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
Somebody y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:21:07):
I showed Jackson State sweatshirt. Uh so, uh, Savannah State.
I don't think Savannah State. Y'all ain't sent no swag. Okay,
Uh let's see here for the rest of y'all. But
I'm saying is because I'm tired of these people like
the Saint Aug's Board of Trustees and the president administration,
who are running scared. If you're doing what's right, then

(01:21:31):
you ain't scared to answer any questions. If you're doing
what's right, I'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (01:21:49):
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Speaker 3 (01:23:31):
He's all about retribution.

Speaker 2 (01:23:33):
He's now targeting New York Attorneys General Letician James.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
She's facing a federal criminal referral.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
The Federal Housing Finance Agency is accusing her of mortgage fraud.
They claimed she misrepresented her residency status to get favorable
terms and loans for a property in Norfolk, Virginia, all
while still serving as New York's top law enforcement official.
The FAFA says James called that Virginia property her primary residence,
but as New York's Attorney General, she's required to live
in the state she represents.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
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Speaker 2 (01:24:00):
James of office says this is nothing more of than
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government and valuing not to be intimidated what they describe
as bullies. This comes a day after Donald Trump called
James a wacky crook and demanded her resignation. She was
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for inflating property values to get better deals from banks
and insures. That trial ended with a massive penalty and

(01:24:23):
helped shape public perception around financial accountability, especially for the
powerful James. Fokesperson says she's focused on protecting New Yorkers
will not be distracted by political games from the twice
impeach criminally convicted con man Donald Trump. Folks in Memphis,
residents there are complaining bitterly about Elon Musk and what

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is going on with his particular firm in a moment
when to be talking with Representive Justin Pearson about that
this whole AI. First of all, this was happening in
south his Memphis, Okay, his black community, their faith on
the front lines of a growing environmental fight.

Speaker 20 (01:25:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:25:05):
And his AI company x Ai.

Speaker 9 (01:25:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:08):
They are the ones who, of course he built to
take on Open AI in chat GPT. People in Memphis
are seriously worried about air quality, asthma and survival.

Speaker 3 (01:25:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
And so we know, we've seen these environmental issues all around,
and we don't excuse me what Elon Musk has been
doing with Donald Trump's approval. What they've been doing is
targeting their critics. You see how he's been going after
every federal agency where there has been an investigation of him.
So we're gonna talk to Represented Pearson in just a second.

(01:25:39):
But here's the thing that I'm laughing about, Okay, about
these fools. And I saw this tweet from a country singer,
John Rich and he is an absolute maga suck up.

Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
I mean an absolute maga suck up. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:25:56):
And he posted on his Twitter feed out paying taxes
and let me just show y'all what this food had
to say. He tweets, it's always been stomach churning, But
after learning all that Doge has found.

Speaker 3 (01:26:18):
Paying my give me one second.

Speaker 2 (01:26:22):
It's always been stomach churning, But after learning all that
Doge has found paying my taxes this year has brought
on a whole new level of nausea. He's a moron,
you know why, because all DOGE keeps doing is backtracking
on what they claim they found. Now, remember they said

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we're gonna find two trillion dollars in savings. Then it's
we're gonna find one billion dollars in savings.

Speaker 3 (01:26:50):
Then they said we're.

Speaker 2 (01:26:51):
Gonna find five hundred billion dollars in savings. Then they
said we found one hundred and fifty billion in savings.

Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Well check this out.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
This is the DOGE went weeks without updating its web page,
then just after midnight on Tuesday, it removed nearly a
billion dollars worth of previously claimed savings. Right here, it
says the website is filled with errors, include typos and
references to multiple state mental health facilities as mental.

Speaker 3 (01:27:18):
Health retardation centers.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
They claim savings for hundreds of individual cuts also fluctuated
from update to update. This they line, they line, Bogle says,
they line.

Speaker 3 (01:27:33):
I mean, it's just the number, just keep changing. They lining.

Speaker 14 (01:27:38):
What's the evidence? Said, where's the damn evidence?

Speaker 17 (01:27:43):
New York Times wrote a great piece about it, and
I mean to debunk everything.

Speaker 14 (01:27:47):
Where's the evidence? Like you said, every time they put
something up, they gotta take it down because they get
called down their lives. There's no proof.

Speaker 17 (01:27:55):
The only people that's getting rich out this damn scheme
is Elon Musk and Trump and his his corporation buddies.
Those are the only people who's making money. Everybody else
we're losing. The American people are losing. They're taking food
away from poor people.

Speaker 3 (01:28:12):
We are losing.

Speaker 14 (01:28:13):
Social Security is damn They're going to be gone.

Speaker 5 (01:28:17):
Who's winning, not us.

Speaker 17 (01:28:20):
They're winning and they have no damn evidence. So what
the hell are they talking about? I mean, you know
what here, Look, I'm glad, I'm from the hood. I'm
glad I was born and raised in the hood. You
know why, because I know a con man when I
see one. And these damn people are allowed for this

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man to con the hell out of them. They are
worse than damn thugs, and I'm glad that they ain't me,
but they are getting con like.

Speaker 5 (01:28:50):
A motherfucker and you can't.

Speaker 17 (01:28:54):
I'm mad because it's people who actually didn't vote for
him and voted.

Speaker 14 (01:28:58):
For the black woman that has to suffer. They have
to suffer.

Speaker 17 (01:29:03):
Yep, that's the whole fuck up part about the fucking
around to find it out.

Speaker 2 (01:29:07):
Joy, I love you political sys.

Speaker 5 (01:29:11):
You say all the things that I can't say. I
love it. I love it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:15):
You say you just don't want to say.

Speaker 5 (01:29:17):
Well, I can't say it, but I'm in my mom's house.
I'll hear about it. But otis start. No, you're right.

Speaker 19 (01:29:24):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Look, here's the thing. Doge has cost the people more
than it saved. If you are working for them, you'll
be quickly removing it from your resume. Elon Musk is
slowly being ushered out of the federal government because people
within the White House itself are appalled at what he's
doing there, humiliating him. These are not people who are

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credible workers. Vi all the typos and the mistakes and
the having to do revisions, et cetera, going into agencies
and not even really understanding what those agencies are doing.
Being met with conflicts from even the heads of the agencies,
right who are Donald Trump appointees, who are like, no,
you don't know what you're doing here. This has been

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a colossal failure. All it served to do is to
threaten agencies that have had concerns with Elon Musk. That's
going to continue to happen. That is what is happening
in this administration. They're weaponizing government, your taxpayer dollars and
using it as an arm to pursue their political ends,

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not yours, and in the billionaires, political and legal ends
not yours. That's what's happening here. We all know it. Frankly,
we are getting taken advantage of as well, that's right.
But it's these white folks. They don't even understand so
many of our government programs they are reliant on. And
I think it's been a mistake for us to always

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talk about people of color and how we are benefited.
Perhaps numerical disproportionately we are benefited, but numerically they are
the ones getting the vast majority of these benefits because
they're the vast majority of people in the country. So
it's them, it's their neighbors, it's their relatives, who are
going to suffer in rural America and urban America. Is

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their mother who's going to have her delayed Social Security check,
who's gonna be standing in lines when their regional office closes.
It's not just us. We got to stop creating that narrative.

Speaker 3 (01:31:29):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be them.

Speaker 2 (01:31:30):
And you know, listen, I just need people to realize
what's going on, Zach.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
And the bottom line is this here.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
These thugs, these crooks, it's all about the rich. They
do not care about regular ordinary people, and they damn
sure don't care about black people.

Speaker 16 (01:31:48):
Across the board, every single group in this country has
suffered during the first three months of the Trump administration.
And we're not at the end of the first three months.
We saw ten tillion dollars wiped out of the American
economy and and I for one case, diminished in some
cases depleted based on what Trump did starting on April

(01:32:09):
the third of these tariffs, and it's only gotten worse.
It's only gotten worse. I think five hundred million they're
saying has been brought in for a tentrion that has
gone out of the door. And so when you're looking
at those and all of their unethical actions highly probably
very likely illegal actions. People have lost jobs, people are
losing uh. And that's what we know of. This is
what we know has been lost. American process and procedures

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that we've never questioned have been slowed down, in some
cases halted, all for the purpose of they said, saving money,
but really for having their hands in the government to
make it any effective and inefficient, to then be able
to cause a massive distraction where we look at what
Elon is doing instead of the person has caused it all.
Donald Trump, I want to share your viewers and emphasize

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everyone out there.

Speaker 12 (01:32:53):
We cannot take our eyes off.

Speaker 16 (01:32:55):
Of the man who has enabled this and who has
the power to make it all happen. All of this
is the fault of Donald Trump, our president, and the
Republican Party. We can't forget that in twenty twenty six.
We can't forget that in twenty twenty eight. And we
have to continue to repeat that over and over so
that people understand that Elon.

Speaker 12 (01:33:11):
Musk has no power. Those has no power.

Speaker 16 (01:33:13):
All the power the exercides was given to them by
Donald Trump and Republicans in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
Oh, absolutely join us right now. He is Representative Justin Peerson,
glad to have you back on the show. Just take
us through what the hell is going on down there
in Memphis with Elon Musk in these gas turbines polluting
the community.

Speaker 27 (01:33:35):
Listen, we have Elon Musk, the richest man in the world,
misusing and abusing his authority, has power and his resources
to pollute our air. Memphis Shelby County has some of
the worst air quality in the country. We are an
asthma capital in the United States of America, cancer risk
of four point one times the national average, and over
seventeen toxic release inventory facilities already and now he's trying

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to build the world's largest supercomputer in Southwest Memphis is
already operating. And they are now applying for a permit,
and there's a public here on April twenty fifth, But
they're applying for a permit to pollute our air indefinitely,
an in perpetuity.

Speaker 10 (01:34:09):
But they only applied for fifteen and now we know
from work done by.

Speaker 27 (01:34:13):
The Southern Environmental Law Center that they have thirty five
gas turbines. The health department, Chevy County Health Department hasn't
been there one time to visit hasn't seen it, has
not notified the public of what's going on there. And
they came into our community on the cotaels of the
Chamber of Commerce, on the hotels of Mayor Paul Young,
Marily Harris, the Chevy County Health Director, and so many

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other elected officials who were so excited that Elon Musk
was coming to the city that they never thought about
the ramifications for the people who live there. This plant
is actually being built in my community, in my neighborhood
in three eight one oh nine, where I went to
high school, where my grandmother's got risk their souls died
from cancer, and where my fiance and I have just
bought our first home.

Speaker 10 (01:34:53):
And so it's really personal this fight.

Speaker 27 (01:34:55):
But he's using his money to manipulate people, particularly African
American leadership, to hurting and harming our community.

Speaker 2 (01:35:03):
How is it there have been no inspections? I take
it you've been in conversation with the Mayor's office or
the city government.

Speaker 3 (01:35:10):
What are they saying?

Speaker 7 (01:35:11):
Right?

Speaker 27 (01:35:11):
So, the Chlby County Health Director Michelle Taylor, who works
for Lee Harris, has said they are not allowed to
require a permit from them until after a year because
of an exception within the Clean Air Act. The only
problem rolling that Mayor Lee Harris and Shelby County Health
Director doctor Michelle Taylor know because the Southern Environmental Law
Center on several.

Speaker 10 (01:35:31):
Occasions, along with the Memphis Community Against.

Speaker 27 (01:35:33):
Pollution, Young Gifted and Greed, Protect Our Awquafer Sierra Club
of Tennessee have told them is that the types of
turbines these folks are using do not fit within that exception.

Speaker 10 (01:35:43):
They have the power to do something.

Speaker 27 (01:35:44):
They made a mistake in not regulating them on day one,
and now they're just deciding to continue to go along
with what's going on, even though they know better. And
that's what's really challenging, because our lives, our lungs, our
air quality is being sacrificed for the benefit of this polluter,
who with thirty five turbines, could be the largest polluter
of nitrogen oxide, even more than the Memphis International Airport.

(01:36:06):
And so we're seeing that being concerning as well as
another environmental concern is formaldehyde. With thirty five turbines, they
could actually be putting into the air sixteen point seven
tons or form aldehyde, a cancer causing carcinogen. This is
happening again in southwest Memphis to a black community and
majority of black community once more, because they think, as
doctor Stapha Santiago Ali has talked about a lot, that

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we're sacrificed though, that our lives are lungs, don't matter
because the profits of this richest man in the world
are more important than the people. And we're being told, well,
the thirty million dollars fifteen million roughly fifteen million to
the county in taxes is worth our lives.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
So whose job is to check and do they care
or is it all about the money?

Speaker 7 (01:36:52):
Right?

Speaker 27 (01:36:53):
I think it's a laxa daisical callus attitude toward people
who have been suffering for a long time. You don't
get to the point where a company can come into
our city without anyone, without many of us who are
elected even knowing about it, because the mayors the public
utility sign non disclosure agreements preventing them from actually talking

(01:37:13):
about this project. We just learned this past week from
some reporting that not only did they sign non disclosure agreements,
not only did Elon Musk and his company just pop
up on the scene and tell us they were in
our community and start polluting our community without permission, without permits.

Speaker 10 (01:37:29):
But they wanted to tout, well.

Speaker 27 (01:37:30):
We're not getting any public dollars, we're not getting any
payments in lieu of taxes and things like that. But
new reporting has shown they were actually given help by
our assessor to not pay taxes. So it's twelve billion
dollars worth of equipment. The assessor taught them how to
scheme the system so that they would only pay taxes
on two billion dollars of that, and even of that,

(01:37:51):
it's a fraction of what they're actually supposed to be paying.

Speaker 10 (01:37:54):
Money is the guiding principle, but it's not money that
is going to be.

Speaker 27 (01:37:57):
To the benefit of the people in Memphis and Show County,
because the consequence of not having air, which is a
human clean air, which is a human right, is immoral, unjust,
it's so wrong. And so yeah, it's the money, but
it's not about money for us, it's about money for him.
And people's political talking point that you know, they helped
to make this happen, but they did not and have
not considered the people, and that's my problem, and Chevy

(01:38:20):
County Health Director Michelle Taylor is responsible for that. Choby
County mayorly Hars is responsible for that as well as
other electried officials. But right now we need to deny
this permit. Right now we need the help director to
go to Xai, to this plant to see what they
are doing, to see what pollutants are being put into
the air, and to do something.

Speaker 10 (01:38:37):
They have the responsibility. Now I can't stop him from coming.

Speaker 27 (01:38:40):
That was Mayor Young's job, that was the Chamber of
Commerce's job. But we literally have been sacrificed on the
altar of this capitalistic, exploitative system just to have a
data center take our water, pollute our air, and hurt
our communities just for the pride of some people without
thinking about us at all.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
Thing I'm always trying to explain to people because listen,
I covered city government, I covered county government.

Speaker 3 (01:39:06):
And it's always jobs, jobs, jobs, economic, economic, economic.

Speaker 2 (01:39:10):
But you kind of got to give a damn about
the health and the air and the water and the
quality of life or the people there, because that job
doesn't mean jack if it shortens your life. Donald Trump
and his thugs, they have canceled the lawsuit in the
Louisiana that's against the petrochemical companies that's in the cancer alley,
killing black people. They just declared it was the legal

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dei settlement in Lowndes County, Alabama, where raw sewage was
backing up into the homes in the front and the
backyards of black people who lived there. It's been going
on for decades and they're shutting that down. So this
is a matter of life and death for people of
color of us, but especially for black.

Speaker 10 (01:39:52):
People, especially for black people, and also for poor community.

Speaker 27 (01:39:55):
So I was with Catherine Coleman Flowers and Vice President
Gore the day before yesterday. She was talking about the
fact that the Department of Justice is no longer going
to ensure that people have the protections from having sanitation
and sewage issues that they currently have in Lownes County,
but also all across the Black Belt and all across
the country. If we do not have the protections of

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our araf we do not have protections of our water,
if we do not have the protection of our soil,
our human rights as well as our civil rights are
what is being destroyed.

Speaker 10 (01:40:24):
And that's what we're.

Speaker 27 (01:40:25):
Seeing happen, particularly when city governments, county governments, health departments
are having a lasadaisical attitude towards the people they are
supposed to serve.

Speaker 10 (01:40:34):
Look, I don't expect Donald Trump.

Speaker 9 (01:40:36):
To like me.

Speaker 10 (01:40:36):
Elon must like me. I don't like them either.

Speaker 27 (01:40:39):
I don't even expect them to follow the Constitution or
the democratic constitutional republic experiment right like.

Speaker 10 (01:40:45):
They don't care about it.

Speaker 27 (01:40:45):
They care more about being and operating as authoritarians in
a dictatorial way, supporting this technocracy.

Speaker 10 (01:40:52):
They got their own agenda.

Speaker 27 (01:40:53):
But the people who we elect most directly, the people
who live in the communities and the counties where we serve,
have a response abilities to do all that they can
to protect us using the laws and regulations that are
in place. I can't stop Donald and Elon from doing
what they're going to do, but we have a responsibility
of making sure our mayors, our city councilors, are county
commissioners are being bought out, are being sold sold out

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to these corporations and to these billionaires and these millionaires
who are puppeting them around and giving them their talking points,
instead of those folks being true to what they said
they were going to do when they ran for office,
which was listen to the people, talk to the people,
fight for the people, and work for the people, and
that's not what's happening.

Speaker 10 (01:41:32):
These data centers are just finding communities that.

Speaker 27 (01:41:35):
They can easily exploit, and they're treating us like we're
some extractive colony of this country, some extractive colony of
our communities. And that definitely happens in Cancer Alley Saint James,
and I know a lot of good organizers there were connected.

Speaker 10 (01:41:49):
They're fighting for their lives, and that's what people have
to realize.

Speaker 27 (01:41:53):
That's why I am naming names, That's why I'm saying
all these things, because we have to realize there is
a fierce urgency to protect the lives of people in
black communities, im poor communities, in rural communities all across
this country that are suffering because folks are wanting to
take selfies and pictures with these billionaires and not listening
to and looking at the consequences of asthma and children

(01:42:14):
who are missing school, COPD, cancer and the fact that
it literally is taking years off of people's lives.

Speaker 3 (01:42:22):
Questions Joy you first, Well, first.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Of all, my condolence is to you on the loss
of your brother, and congratulations to you for the way
that you stood up for your family and the constituents
you serve. You are an example of why we need
folks working and running at the local level. So thank
God for you. So a couple of things. One can
you just talk about, like the fact that you're not

(01:42:47):
saying you don't want jobs, you just want safety. You
don't want people to die in the process of getting them.
Can you just speak to a little timit to that,
Because there's someone out there who's listening who thinks democrats
or progressives or environmentalists even you are trying to stand
in the way of American jobs. We're not trying to
do that. What we're trying to say is you can

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have jobs, you can have safety as well. You just
talk a little bit to that.

Speaker 27 (01:43:13):
Absolutely, the idea that there is some dichotomy between having
economic justice and having environmental justice is wrong. The fact
of the matter is the jobs that companies like Xai
and Elon Musk are bringing into communities are jobs for
people in the community. We may be the security, we
may be in the patrol car, but the engineers and

(01:43:33):
folks that they are hiring are typically people who are
outside of the state, who may be imported in or
be working remotely. These aren't jobs as you might imagine
in an eerogo and buy where a thousand, two thousand
and three thousand people are being employed. It's six hundred
thousand people in our city. And they say, at most
this company is going to have two hundred employees. So
it isn't increasing the wages of folks. It's not addressing
any economic inequality and injustices that we're seeing. But we

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are seeing an increase in the amount of nitrogen oxide
we are seeing and increasing the amount of pollution. We
are seeing environmental racism and environmental injustice plaguing us once more.

Speaker 10 (01:44:07):
And it's not real.

Speaker 5 (01:44:09):
Yeah, I mean so that is also for our mayors
and other people when you're assessing these deals, the question
is how many jobs are going to be in your community,
brick and mortar jobs that you all are going to get,
even if they're virtual jobs, but they're in your community,
feeding back into your tax base and not taking you
away with all the money you're going to have to
spend cleaning up the mess that they've made. So you're

(01:44:31):
so so so right. And if you are a mayor
out there, these are the things if you need more
sophisticated folks to help you make an assessment of whether
this is a good deal for you in the long term,
then you need to ask for it. Not all that
glitters is gold. And if Elon must is come into
your community to be clean, he does not care about
America or Americans.

Speaker 3 (01:44:52):
I got it. Political sys, I gotta get this question.
Pilicuss Hi justin nice to meet you.

Speaker 17 (01:44:59):
Thank you for giving us a great example of what
environmental racism is. This is why so important for people
we try to get people to vote, especially our folks,
when it comes to these companies, they pollutant, they go
all into black communities. It's so many studies out there
that shows that we are impacted the most by this.
Can you kind of give me, give me a percentage

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and that's all I want to know. Of the black
folks that's within your community or this community that's being.

Speaker 10 (01:45:27):
Affected, it's about ninety seven percent.

Speaker 14 (01:45:31):
So yeah, thank you, thank you for all that you do.

Speaker 27 (01:45:35):
Thank you so much again to your points. A textbook
case of environmental racism. But environmental racism doesn't get to
the place that it is without a perpetuation of harms
that have been okayed over DA It's no surprise that
the same places that are red lined. Are the same
with a red line, Are the same places that have
the industrial parks and the industrial plants.

Speaker 10 (01:45:53):
It's no coincident that these are the.

Speaker 27 (01:45:55):
Same places that are educationally deprived, politically deprived, environmentally degraded.
We have to have elected leaders and appointed leaders who
listen to the voices of the constituents who are crying
out and don't continue to perpetuate the harm just because
that's the way that things have always been.

Speaker 3 (01:46:09):
Zachary.

Speaker 14 (01:46:10):
I think it's fair.

Speaker 17 (01:46:11):
I think it's also I'm sorry that I think it's
also fair to say that we are not going to
get anything done.

Speaker 14 (01:46:15):
It's going to get worse.

Speaker 17 (01:46:16):
Before it get better because of this administration who's trying
to do away with the EPA.

Speaker 3 (01:46:21):
Yep, well, no, that's definitely the case, Zachary.

Speaker 16 (01:46:24):
I know people are going to hopefully go a little
bit deeper and do a little bit more research around
environmental racism and so this those watching. You got cancer Ali,
you had the flint water crisis, we had.

Speaker 12 (01:46:33):
The toxic piece, toxic pc be.

Speaker 16 (01:46:36):
Landfills and North Carolina, and then you also have what's
happening with the Navajo Indian reservations out with the uranium mines.
I want to ask this a question I have for
you just a little bit, sir, and again, the whole
entire village is with you, and his morns with you.
With the loss of your brother, May he rest in
paradise and power. This is my question for you. You
many times when you were working at the state level

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of government, you look up to your national leaders for
advice and for guidance and for role models. But I
believe that you, sir, are a role model to our
national leaders who are serving the entire nation in regards
to how you can be a part of the minority party,
the opposition party, and still be highly effective.

Speaker 12 (01:47:17):
What advice would you give to our.

Speaker 16 (01:47:21):
National leaders, to Democrats who have been elected to represent
us in Congress of how they could get power, gain
authority and do the work of true opposition to the
Trump administration and congressional Republicans.

Speaker 27 (01:47:34):
So thank you so much for you as kind of
comments by my brother, we miss him every single day.
And look a place that you can get more information
is the nonprofit that I helped the found and that's
leading helping the lead this fight, Memphis Community Against Pollution
Meanthis cap dot org that's meanthis gap dot org. Submit
your public comments as well, while that's available against Elon
Musket as well against the Tennessee Valley Authority, which is

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seeking to build six gas combustion turbines in our community
as well. Look to be an effective opposition party, we
have to recognize where we do have power. We have
people power. You can see it through town halls. We
had a town hall expecting one hundred people. We got
over three hundred and fifty people this past Saturday, just
strictly about environmental injustice and about what's happening with Elon Musk,
XAI TVA. There's a lot of energy in this moment

(01:48:17):
in time and the democracy democracy itself, right, it's the
consent of the governed. We have to get the people
who are interested in engagement fighting back in the fight
alongside us. Which is why we're having some protests this
upcoming week. It's why we're going to be attending the
public hearing and have hundreds of people organized to do that.
Because while I am a state legislator, right I'm up
here in Nashville was just fighting some bills, fighting for

(01:48:39):
some bills against some bills.

Speaker 7 (01:48:40):
But I also.

Speaker 27 (01:48:41):
Realize I'm a Membian, I'm a person who lives in
Shelby County, and I have a responsibility to use any influence,
any power that I have there as well to elevate
the causes and the concerns of the people who are
being oppressed the most. And for people who are in Congress,
the fight isn't just to fight Donald Trump just by.

Speaker 10 (01:48:59):
Talking about it.

Speaker 27 (01:49:00):
Is to find the ways that his policies are directly
impacting our communities and do what we can at the
city council, at the county commission, at the state level,
if you are in a more favorable state for Democrats
to resist, and I think that is where our politics
has to become much more inclusive.

Speaker 10 (01:49:17):
And I mean that not.

Speaker 27 (01:49:18):
Just in building the movement for justice, rooting a load
with blackfoot, white folk, lets you know, folk, Asian folk, documented, nondocumented.

Speaker 10 (01:49:23):
Queer, straight and all that.

Speaker 27 (01:49:24):
Not just that, but politically, our state leaders need to
be connected with our mayors, need to be connected with
our city councilors, need to be connected with our county
commissioners in a much more intentional way, because we have
to find the places where our power can be strongest
and build from there.

Speaker 3 (01:49:41):
Herison. We appreciate it. Man up the good fight. Thanks
a lot.

Speaker 27 (01:49:44):
Hey, we end this thing for the long hang and
we ended together, love and appreciate y'all.

Speaker 3 (01:49:47):
Indeed appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (01:49:48):
Thanks you so very much. All right, folks. So a
celebrity sent me a video last couple days asking me.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Hey, I really think you are to have this guy.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
On your show. I think that he You know, we
should have different perspectives from the black community, and this
guy he's always He trashes democrats, he praises Donald Trump,
he claims he's for black people.

Speaker 3 (01:50:21):
And I was gonna play the video, but I can't
even waste.

Speaker 2 (01:50:24):
First of y'all, I'm not playing that because I, first
of all, he lies, and so I set this celebrity
note back, said, I don't platform liars. See when you
make a video saying I'm a race bater, and all
I do is say that black people are oppressed and

(01:50:46):
we can't do anything good, and we can't be entrepreneurs
and we can't be successful.

Speaker 3 (01:50:55):
What am I supposed to do with that lie? That's
a lie. Anybody who has watched.

Speaker 2 (01:51:03):
This show, we actually feature black entrepreneurs, We feature black
owned businesses in tich talk. We feature black owned businesses
and marketplace. We feature black folks who are doing and
owning things, an education matter segment.

Speaker 3 (01:51:19):
We got the HVCU Connect segment. I mean I.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
Could just go down the line all the stuff we do.
We show black doctors and lawyers, in generals and economists.
We show black people from all walks of life, Folks
who are Democrat, who are a Republican, who are independent,
who are agnostic politically.

Speaker 3 (01:51:41):
So right there, I make it clear.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
I'm not going to platform somebody who's a liar. And
see what I'm not gonna do is put somebody on
for the purpose of getting clicks. See I was gonna
play that person's video, but it was filled with so
many lies. I'm like, you're not even worth the attention.

Speaker 3 (01:52:06):
But I do think it's important.

Speaker 2 (01:52:08):
For people to understand that you got black folks out
here who claim to love black people, but their real
mission is to attack black people who do not support MAGA.
And let me be real clear, not every black person

(01:52:30):
who's kissing Donald Trump's but it's gonna wear a MAGA hat.

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
See, there's some people who operate under the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:41):
Guys of Oh I ain't no shield I ain't no democrat.
I ain't what they ain't done for sixty years, and
I don't support this, and I don't support that, and
I don't support this. They'n I went to this person.
They would just paying paper. They were lying about the
HBCU funded, and they were lying about all sorts of stuff,

(01:53:02):
And I just made it clear, I ain't gonna I'm
not gonna platform liars, but I just get a kick.
I'm gonna my panel. I just get a kick xactly.

Speaker 3 (01:53:09):
Out of folk who claim.

Speaker 2 (01:53:11):
I mean, I don't know how anybody in the right
mind could say all we talk about on this show
is how black people are oppressed and how we can't
do things in society. When we got black people on
talking about finances, talking about home ownership, talking about venture capital.
When you start lying like that, all that does is

(01:53:33):
tell me you clearly ain't.

Speaker 3 (01:53:35):
Never watched this show. Roly, hold on, wait, wait, hold on, Joe,
hold on, Zachly.

Speaker 16 (01:53:42):
You just rolled out almost all sixty four of our
nation's historically black colleges and universities.

Speaker 12 (01:53:48):
You black excellent episode after episode.

Speaker 16 (01:53:52):
I mean not week after week, it's day after day.

Speaker 2 (01:53:58):
But the reason I this is important political syst and
I'm going to your Geordian. The reason this is important
because I need black people to understand that when they
say there are ops, when they say that there are
people who specifically are designed to tap into discontent and

(01:54:19):
get you to be sucked into their lives, then that's
what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
This person did a whole video talk about when Trump.
When Trump was.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Talking about DEEI, he wasn't talking about USK. When they
mentioned a plane that crash, they were really talking about
the white woman who was the pilot. And I was like, oh, really,
I guess you've forgotten skipped over when they declared that
the settlement in Alabama in Lowndes County was in a

(01:54:51):
legal DEI settlement. I guess they forgot the lawsuit that
they pull out of and cancer all in Louisiana was
a d EI settlement.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
This fool is.

Speaker 2 (01:55:02):
Literally lying to his followers about how all when they
said DEDI, they were talking about white women and trans
they weren't talking about us.

Speaker 3 (01:55:14):
I'm like, yeah, they were.

Speaker 17 (01:55:17):
This is what happens when you got this man balls
in your mouth.

Speaker 14 (01:55:20):
So maybe if he.

Speaker 17 (01:55:21):
Can get Trump's ball out of balls out of his
mouth and utilize his own brain. Then then just maybe
you can bring him on the show. But he needs attention.
You're right, don't give it to him. But I'm petty.
I'm petty as hell. He can get my pettiness. But
on another note, you what we do on this show,
and what you are so great at doing, is keeping
black folk in form, keeping our people in form, letting

(01:55:42):
them know what.

Speaker 5 (01:55:43):
Is going on within our community.

Speaker 17 (01:55:45):
Example, justin being up here talking about environmental justice, environment
of racism.

Speaker 7 (01:55:50):
That is what we do.

Speaker 17 (01:55:51):
And you have black doctors that come up here that
are not Dier was right. They come up here and
they tell us about our health to keep us a farm.
You have financial people come up here and do the
same thing. So yeah, no, just let him continue to
keep Trump bars in his mouth.

Speaker 3 (01:56:06):
He'll be all right, Joey.

Speaker 2 (01:56:08):
I just and again, I purposely I tell people. I
tell people, Uh, you don't. You don't give liars oxygen.

Speaker 5 (01:56:19):
Correct. Look, you have three panelists who are most often
black on your show every night, who exemplify if if
I actn say so myself, black excellence and from a
range of backgrounds that we bring and styles that we bring,

(01:56:41):
we're all here we're all black, we're all excellent.

Speaker 10 (01:56:47):
Show.

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
We ain't going nowhere, Damn them. Look, I had to
sneak it in its best I could do political here's
the thing, you know, I mean, like you're so right,
and look, this is just a reminder everyone can't get
our attention. Stop retweeting these people, stop sharing their posts.
The only reason to highlight them, and just as you're

(01:57:10):
doing without using their names, so no one gives them
extra lift is to make fun of them and ignore
the most of them are suffering in some way. They
have some chip on their shoulder. And that's not all
Black Republicans. I have Black Republicans in my family. Most
of you all do as well. But maga is different.

(01:57:32):
Maga is different. We have transcended. Donald Trump is a
parasite on the Republican Party. Okay, he is a barnacle
on America. And so you know this isn't about Republican
or Democrat. This is about a new cult that he
has created, and those people have been swept up in it.
Black people can be as susceptible for all the reasons

(01:57:54):
others are as well to cult like activity, and that's
what's happening here. Wish him the best. I wish him
the mental health Democrats, Donald trumpet it, I don't, I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
I just sit here and again just just laugh at
these little folks who just I love the little folks
run their mouths and they always got something to say.

Speaker 3 (01:58:23):
But if you're gonna sit here and.

Speaker 2 (01:58:25):
Post stuff on social don't lie, because see the moment
you lie, you just made it easy for me to
invalidate anything that you say. If you're gonna lie, that
easy just saying, all right, Joe Zachary political sists.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
I appreciate you'all being today's show.

Speaker 14 (01:58:47):
Please let let.

Speaker 17 (01:58:48):
I'm so sorry, but please tell Pastor he just he's
gonna have to go on and suite because he ain't
getting that money back.

Speaker 7 (01:58:53):
I ain't gonna spend that.

Speaker 3 (01:58:54):
Money, trust me, trust me.

Speaker 2 (01:58:58):
Uh no, Saint, no, Saint, no gonna, We're gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:59:04):
Let's just say, I don't just go away easily.

Speaker 14 (01:59:08):
No, No'm gonna way.

Speaker 17 (01:59:09):
You could have told me you coming to Saint now too.

Speaker 14 (01:59:11):
You could have told me that what came through.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
But we said it on the show. For two weeks.

Speaker 14 (01:59:18):
I had death in the family.

Speaker 10 (01:59:19):
So I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:59:20):
Oh okay, but I mean, but we also put it
on social too, and we I mean we kind of.
I mean, I ain't seeing no personal texts.

Speaker 5 (01:59:28):
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:59:29):
I ain't see it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:30):
Okay, got you me trying, but we're trying to call
nobody out, act like we ain't talk about it on
the show.

Speaker 3 (01:59:36):
Oh and I did make a mistake. People hit me up. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
And I didn't realize I had a second bag of stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:59:43):
So uh, let me just go, let me go. We're
gonna we're gonna have to edit edited together. Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:48):
And so here was some more North Here was some
more North Carolina at swag. Here was another grambling swag.

Speaker 8 (01:59:57):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:59:58):
Let's let's see here. This is Wilberforce. This is a
Wilberforce polo right here.

Speaker 20 (02:00:05):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:00:05):
This these were the pants that grammed the tracksuit.

Speaker 13 (02:00:08):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:08):
This was a Clark Atlanta sweater. Uh they hooked me
up with Uh. Uh that's wait man held look that's
that's Canisius ain't black, but I did speak at Canicius.

Speaker 3 (02:00:20):
I appreciate y'all invite me. Uh. This was a really
nice Gramblin's sweater.

Speaker 1 (02:00:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
Let's see here. This was another whose band is this?
This was another more house band.

Speaker 3 (02:00:31):
Uh, Southern hooked me up with this here. Uh, this
was the more House sweatshirt. Very nice, very nice. Let's
see here. Who is this here? Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:00:43):
This is a Wilberforce sweatshirt. So that was nice. I
swore I had a Morgan State. I guess I don't
Arkansas Pine Bluff. They band sent me this. Appreciate that
this was a Clark Atlanta. Uh, polo right here, this
mine gonna follow fold over and fall over in the second.

Speaker 3 (02:01:02):
We got Florida A and m right here? What we
got right here? Who is this marching musical machine of
the mid South? As you got them up b right here? Okay,
clothes don't follow over. I got y'all. Let's see here.
Who is this? Who is this?

Speaker 7 (02:01:21):
Now?

Speaker 3 (02:01:22):
That was the school I visited. They wasn't HBCU. Ah.

Speaker 2 (02:01:28):
Savannah State did send me a shirt, so I'm gonna
take them off on Instagram. They did send me a shirt.
Let's see this. I think this is Howard So I
got a Howard's shirt. Calm yass down. This was Savannah State.

Speaker 3 (02:01:40):
Hat. I did get a bunch of hats. Xavier, Xavier
gave me a hat.

Speaker 2 (02:01:43):
Xavier did not give me a shirt, so xavi yea,
I'm gonna lead y'all on the list. Well, they they
did give me a mask during COVID, so that'll work.

Speaker 3 (02:01:50):
So anyway, so all.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
The people out there, and I think I just counted
and it was actually I double checked, so it was
fifty seven of one hundred and seven HBCUs that have
actually visited some I've been to multiple times. Alberny's State.
I don't believe I went there. I don't believe. But anyway,

(02:02:13):
that's it, y'all. Were gonna keep doing what we do.
We ain't worried about to hate us because while they talking,
we're busy working and while they claim they stand up
for black people, we're actually doing it while all they
do is just bump their gums. So simple simons, y'all
can keep hating.

Speaker 3 (02:02:32):
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