Trump admin held in contempt, Bernie Sanders Repub warning, Musk AI plant pollutes Black community

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Speaker 1 (00:32):
Thays Wednesday, April sixteen, twenty twenty five, coming up on
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A Federal Jones just found probable calls to hold the
Trump administration in contempt criminal contempt for violating his deportation order.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Will break it down.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Plus, Maryland Senator Chris van Holland is n El Salvador
trying to talk to a Maryland man, Kilmar Ormando abragogar
Sea to bring.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Him back to the United States.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
However, the old Salvadorian and Vice president claims the Trump
administration is paying the country he's certaining the innocent man
and MAGA.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Republicans keep insisting he is a terrorist. He's with MS thirteen,
but they have no evidence doing.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
Twenty two years ago, Senator Bernie Sanders warned America about
how Republicans will win future elections. I'm going to show
you what he said. Two thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
How's that panning out?

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Plus a Detroit pastor tells us that Satagusu's university has
not told him what has happened to a fifty thousand
dollars scholarship donation.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
That pastor will be on today's show.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Plus Elon Musk's AI plant in Memphis is reportedly using
more gas turbines than permitted, leading to increased air pollution
in black communities. We'll talk to Tennessee Rep. Justin Pearson
about that very thing. Plus now we'd.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
Already told you helping him with services.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Secretary Robert Kennedy Junior is a dumbass.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Still got a warm in his head.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Remember he said he couldn't study unless he was on
heroin in college. Wait until you hear what this idiot
had to say about people living with autism. Plus folks
always running their mouth about what we don't do on
this show and how we are race baton.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
But it's amazing how.

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who just believed they lie. I got a couple of
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Speaker 2 (03:39):
All right, folks, lots to unpack here.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
It was a brutal day in federal court, uh for
the thug the.

Speaker 2 (03:46):
Donald Trump administration.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
A federal judge made it perfectly clear UH that he
found probable cause to hold Trump and his minions in
criminal contempt of court for violating his orders regarding planes
carrying deportees to L Salvadore. US District Judge James Boseberg,
who was appointed by President George W. Bush, and he

(04:12):
was appointed to the Chief Justicief Judge of the court
he sits on by President Barack Obama.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
He warned that he could refer the matter for.

Speaker 1 (04:20):
Prosecution if the administration does.

Speaker 2 (04:22):
Not rectify its contempt. Well he is.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
The problem is Donald Trump's Department of Justice. So they
damn sure not going to sit here and try anybody.
Judge Boseburg stated the administration could remedy the situation by
returning those who were sent to the El Salvador prison
back to the United States, as this actually would align
with his orders. If the Justice Department decides not to
prosecute the issue, Boseburg Indicator that he would appoint another

(04:48):
attorney to handle the prosecution of the contempt. In this ruling,
the judge said the Constitution does not tolerate willful disobedience
of judicial orders, especially by official of a coordinate branch
who have sworn an oath to uphold it. Now, while
that is happening, Democratic Mallite Center Chris van Holland traveled
to El Sabador to check on one of his constituents,

(05:11):
Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia. The man mistakenly deported there to
a high security prison for terrorists. If In Holland said
he met with the l Savadorian Vice president, who said
the Trump thugs are paying them to keep the innocent
man away from his family.

Speaker 7 (05:30):
Now, the courts of the United States have said there's
no evidence to support the charge that he's part of
MS thirteen. So I asked the Vice president whether or
not Al Salvador has have any evidence that he's part
of MS thirteen or has committed a crime. So I
asked the Vice president if Abrego Garcia has not committed

(05:55):
a crime and the US courts have found that he
would is illegally taken for the United States and the
governor government of El Salvador has no evidence that he
was part of MS thirteen.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
Why is El Salvador.

Speaker 8 (06:11):
Continuing to hold him in Seacott?

Speaker 7 (06:14):
And his answer was that the Trump administration is paying
El Salvador, the government of l Salvador, to keep him
at Seacott. And I pointed out that neither the government

(06:35):
of Al Salvador nor the Trump administration has presented evidence
to support the claim that he's committed any kind of
criminal acts, and so why not release of Rego Garcia today?
And he said what President Bukeley said the other day
at at the White House, which the El Salvador can't

(07:01):
smuggle mister Abrago Garcia into the United States. And I said,
I'm not asking him to smuggle mister Abrago Garcia in
the United States. I'm simply asking him to open the
door of Seacott and let this innocent man walk out.
And I pointed out that the Attorney General of the
United States, Pam Bondi, has said that the United States

(07:24):
would send a plane to El Salvador to pick him up.

Speaker 8 (07:28):
And why did she do that?

Speaker 7 (07:30):
Because the Supreme Court of the United States, in a
ruling of nine to zero has said that the Trump
administration has to facilitate his return to the United States. Now,
there's no evidence that the Trump administration is complying with
that order. There's no evidence that they are complying with

(07:50):
that or in fact, the United States embassy here has
told me they've received no direction from the Trump administration
to help facilitate his release. So the Trump administration is
clearly in violation of American court orders.

Speaker 8 (08:07):
But that still leaves the question why is.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
The government of Al Salvador continuing to imprison a man
where they have no evidences committed any crime and they've
not been provided any evidence from the United States city's
committed a crime.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
Okay, so let me unpack this.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Here is the chief liar for Donald Trump, Caroline Leavitt,
at the White House podium, trying to lie to all
of us about how this guy's a gang.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
They were listening to this.

Speaker 9 (08:40):
And when ki Abrego Garcia was originally arrested, he was
wearing a sweatshirt with rolls of money covering the ears, mouth,
and eyes of presidents on various currency denominations. This is
a known MS thirteen gang symbol of here no evil
speak no evil, see no evil.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
So they're saying that he was wearing a sweatshirt. Okay,
now listen to this.

Speaker 9 (09:07):
DIA in this room have continually and wrongly labeled Kilmar
Abrago Garcia as a Maryland father. There is no Maryland father.

Speaker 5 (09:17):
Let me reiterate.

Speaker 9 (09:19):
Abrago Garcia is an illegal alien MS thirteen gang member
and foreign terrorists.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
So they have constantly say it, this person is a
gang member and a foreign terrorist. Okay, Well, Pam Bondi,
the Attorney General, was asked that very question.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Listened to her answer.

Speaker 10 (09:41):
Abrego Garcia and Maryland. He's in a prison now in
El Salvador. He was sent there. You insist the president
to everybody in the administration and says that he's MS thirteen.

Speaker 11 (09:52):
It appears that there's not going to be any sort
of trial. He's not going to come back.

Speaker 10 (09:56):
DHS that he would be arrested and redeported if he
comes back. Why not you show the American people the
evidence that he's MS thirteen so they can make an
informed decision. And that goes the same with this Henry
Hosuay Santos, who was picked up in Virginia, who is
now presumably going.

Speaker 11 (10:12):
To be deported as well. Why not show the public
the evidence.

Speaker 12 (10:16):
Well, he is an illegal alien who has been living
illegally in our country from El Salvador.

Speaker 3 (10:24):
Ice testified.

Speaker 12 (10:26):
An immigration judge ruled he was a member of MS thirteen.
An appellate judge ruled he was a member of MS thirteen.
Hard stop. He should not be in our country. He
was deported. They needed one additional step in paperwork. But
now MS thirteen is characterized as they should be, as

(10:48):
an FTO, as a foreign terrorist organization, So he is
not coming back to our country. President Bouquele said he
was not sending him back. That's the end of the story.
If he wanted to send him back, we would give
him a plane ride back. There was no situation ever
where he was going to stay in this country.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
None, none.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
He would have come back.

Speaker 12 (11:09):
Had one extra step of paperwork and gone back again.
But he's from l Salvador. He's in L Salvador, and
that's where the president plans on keeping him.

Speaker 11 (11:17):
The evidence, we're not going to see the evidence.

Speaker 12 (11:20):
We have the transcripts from the court hearings. I'll be
glad to give you the court hearings from twenty nineteen.
What we have sure where the rulings from the judges.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
First of all, court transcript That's not evidence, it's just not.
And so we'll just understand, these are people who are
openly defying a court order the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Donald Trump is a liar.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Donald Trump has repeatedly said that the Court's ruled in
his favor.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
That is a lie. It's just a flat out lie.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
And not only that, this is the leader of the
National Building Trades Union who is demanding Garcia get returned.

Speaker 2 (12:10):
Because he was an apprentice in Baltimore. Listen to this.
We need to make our voices heard. We're not red,
We're not blue.

Speaker 13 (12:20):
We're the building trades, the backbone of America. We build
a five billion you want to build a five billion
dollar data center?

Speaker 2 (12:28):
What more?

Speaker 13 (12:29):
Six filiure careers with healthcare, retirement and no college debt.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
You don't call Elon Musk. You call us.

Speaker 13 (12:38):
North America's Building Trades Unions. And yeah, that means all
of us, all of us, including our brother, smart apprentice
ar Brad Garcia, who he demanded to be returned to
us and his family.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
Now bring him home.

Speaker 1 (13:02):
And to keep in mind, a lot of those white men,
they vote they MAGA, they voted for Trump. But you
see what happens when it's one of their own. So
you now may be wondering. You may be saying, well, okay,
well I don't understand what's going on. I don't understand
what they're trying to achieve. This is what they're trying

(13:23):
to achieve. They do not care about the rule of law.
MAGA does not care about the rule of law. They
only like laws when it goes in their favor. So
what their game is. And see this is when you
can always tell when Steven Miller and Carolyn Levitt and JD.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Vance and Fox News and.

Speaker 1 (13:46):
Conservative talk radio and conservative digital radio, when they all
start saying the same thing, that means the memo went out,
and this is how we are going to frame this,
and the way we're going to frame this is see.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (14:07):
See just in case if you think I'm hold one second,
if you think I'm not telling the truth, I just
want you to understand how they try to play this game,
how they want to control this narrative in terms of
how they like to sit here and frame this. And
so this is what their strategy is. This is JD.

Speaker 2 (14:30):
Evans.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
The entire American media and left wing industrial complex has
decided the most important issue today is that the Trump
administration deported an MS thirteen game member in parentheses and
I legal alien. They want to say, see those Democrats,

(14:53):
Look how hard they're fighting for an illegal alien. Why
are those Democrats fighting so hard for this illegal alien?
Why don't they just shut up and move on and
stop fighting for this illegal alien?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
That's their goal, y'all, that's their goal. They want to frame.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
This as Democrats are just they're being wrong. How dare
you fight for an illegal alien? George Cheney is found
of George tragis out of DC. Doctor Zachary Kirk, educator
and content creator from Atlanta Political says social media political actors.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Of North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (15:31):
That's the ballgame right here, Joy, is real simple. They
want to frame this ass as all those Democrats care
about our illegal aliens.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
They don't care about, y'all.

Speaker 1 (15:40):
They don't care about they're just defending the deportations. They
don't care, they don't care what's going on, and so
they want to create it it's us against them, It's
white Americans against the rest of those brownie legals.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
That's right. I mean, their goal is to divide us.

Speaker 14 (15:57):
What they're not saying is in a court of law.
You can say anything on TV. But in a court
of law they have not gone on and said this
man is a member of MS thirteen. Here were the
evidence to deport him. Here is why we did it
and what we're gonna do to fix it, because they're

(16:18):
not gonna get any bar attorney to go out there
and assert those things. It's one thing to do it
from a puodium, so it's another thing to do it
in a court of law. They're not going to go
do that. This is ultimately not about any one person.
It's about all of us. It's about the.

Speaker 15 (16:32):
Rule of law.

Speaker 14 (16:33):
If Donald Trump can do this with this test case,
it's why he started with so called undocumented people.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
He started with undocumented people, then.

Speaker 14 (16:43):
He moved to people who were here legally even though
they weren't citizens. That's the category that mister Garcia finds
himself in. He has an order that says he can't
be deported to El Salvador. He can be deported in
other places, but not to El Salvador. Now that could
be because there's some kind of special danger to him.

(17:04):
There we don't know, right, We need more evidence. The
reason to bring him back isn't so much because he's
gonna stay here. It's because a court said, if you
were not sent away legally, you did not have due process.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
You have to be brought back for due process. The
Alien Enemies Act.

Speaker 14 (17:27):
Can work, but it must be done under the guise
of due process.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
You must facilitate his return.

Speaker 14 (17:34):
And saying that if he miraculously escapes the prison, you'll
let him get on a plane is not the same thing.
It's facilitating his return. Being able to go to your
embassy and ask for his return, and if facilitated and
say we would like him to be returned, and we
made a mistake. That's what facilitating the return is, right.
So it's something going on here that is dark and ugly.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
So the thing here, Zachary is simple. It's in the
first ball. It's real, simpl what they're doing. They flat
out want to make this sound like we're getting rid
of these people. The Democrats are trying to keep them.
They don't care that they're breaking the law, they don't
care that they're they're defying of a federal judges. Ruly,

(18:15):
they don't care. And these federal judges are gonna have
to wake up and they're gonn to start jailing people
literally saying okay, Steven Miller, okay, attorney set. They asked
for the handcuffs and then put them in the jail
because clearly y'all don't want to pay attention. Y'all want
to follow the law. So you're going to cool off
in the federal jail.

Speaker 16 (18:37):
Absolutely right, Absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (18:39):
This is so much bigger than what is happening with
one father from Bossmore, Maryland, who is being detained, who
was sent over to L. Salvage's Way concentration camp. My
prayer is that he is still alive. My prayers that
he is still with the living, that he can be
returned to the United States to go through the process.
This man may be ins thirteen. I don't believe he is.

(19:00):
I don't believe he is. I believe that he's a
person in this country seeking acide who has earned the right,
has gone through the legal process, whose wife is an
American citizens. Democrats are protecting the people in this country
who are having their rights stripped away illegally by an
authoritarian government, an authoritarian regime, an authoritarian administration that we

(19:20):
put in through democratic process, and so Democrats in this
country are fighting for those people, fighting for every single
one of us. Donald Trump, pam Bonding his administration. Republicans
who are elected are using this as their test case
to push against the separation of powers that exist in
our government and take over power from the jiujdiciary, to

(19:43):
not only ignore Federal courtse but to ignore the rule
of the Supreme Court. Even Clarence Thomas, Justice Clarence Thomas,
the most bought and sold man I have ever seen
served an American politics, sided with the majority and said
this man should be brought back to the United States
and regardless of what he has done or will, deserves
due process as guaranteed under the constitutional Constitution of the

(20:06):
United States, the fourteenth Amendment, and the Trump administrations is
still saying we're not going to do it. We're not
going to comply, We're not going to make this happen.
This is a constitutional crisis that we are all living
through that will bring about the downfall of American democracy
if we don't find some way to stop it.

Speaker 1 (20:24):
They absolutely vocal says they want to establish a standard
we do not have to follow any rulings or any
laws that we don't agree with.

Speaker 18 (20:35):
And this is why it's important for us to research
the facts. Because in twenty nineteen, the judge of judge
I think a federal judge did tell the courts that, hey, look,
keep him here because if he goes back to El Salvador,
guess what they will.

Speaker 19 (20:53):
Come at him.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
MS.

Speaker 19 (20:55):
Thirteen.

Speaker 18 (20:56):
The gang threatened his family in the documents.

Speaker 15 (21:00):
That was proven.

Speaker 18 (21:02):
So if we don't do our research, will allow for
this to happen. And I'm glad you brought up the
Bernie Sanders situation in two thousand and three.

Speaker 19 (21:10):
Is this.

Speaker 18 (21:11):
If they can do this to him, they can do
this to all of us.

Speaker 19 (21:16):
I mean, he already said that he would do it.
That man is over here.

Speaker 18 (21:20):
Legally, judges told him to stay here. They said, keep
this man here in America. He is at risk for
losing his life. And yes, I hope he is alive today.
I hope he's alive. So if again, if they can
do this to any him, they can do this to anyone.
This is not a joke. And I'm telling you do

(21:41):
not be surprised if a black person is next, which
I fear is going to happen.

Speaker 1 (21:48):
See I just need people to understand the level of
idiocy we're dealing with here, and also the goal is
to terrorize people. This took place in New Bedford, Massachusetts.
Federal agents caught on video smashing the car window and
arresting a Guatemalan immigrant with no criminal record as he

(22:12):
and his wife awaited their attorney to arrive at the scene.

Speaker 4 (22:19):
An undocumented Guatemalan man was arrested by federal agents after
they smashed his car window. Cell phone video shows Juan
Francisco Menandez and his wife surrounded by federal agents after
being pulled over in New Bedford, Massachusetts. Francisco Menendez called
his lawyer for help, and she told the couple to
hand the agents her business card and tell them she

(22:40):
was on her way. A federal agent is heard telling
the couple in Spanish that they can either do it
the quote easy way or the hard way, before threatening
to smash the car window. Minutes later, video shows an
agent smashed Francisco Menandez's car window with the hammer. Francisco Menandez,

(23:07):
his lawyer says he qualifies for a derivative asylum and
has no criminal record. His wife says he's now being
held at an ICE detention center in Dover, New Hampshire.
CNN reached out to ICE for more information, but has
not heard back.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
See again, these people do not care. They don't care.

Speaker 11 (23:27):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
They will do whatever they want to. Uh.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
This right here is a full four minute, none second video.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Just watch this.

Speaker 20 (23:39):
Ally all right, you work on you.

Speaker 15 (23:52):
They can't reach it.

Speaker 16 (23:53):
It's up by her.

Speaker 21 (23:56):
Here you go, yes, and they see I don't want.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
Your seeing Zachary.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
These are the same people they arrest another dude who
was literally on his way to a hearing.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
He was walking into a hearing. They're like, nah, were
stating you back.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
People need to understand why they are, why there's a
thug behavior. This is a game show to them. This
is a television show. They want to see we're being tough,
We're snatching them. Uh, and people cheering, get them, get them.
This is a television show for Donald Trump and Macca.

Speaker 17 (24:51):
People are going to lose their lives, and people are
losing their lives behind what is being done right now
and every single black person. This is about the voice
of black a miracle and that's what you want, that's
what you do. And the majority of your audience they're
watching is they are black. They are members of the
black community just like me and you. You do watch
this because in the same way they're coming after our

(25:12):
brown brothers and sisters, they're going to.

Speaker 16 (25:14):
Come after us in the exact same way.

Speaker 17 (25:16):
They start with one group and they continue whatever if
that is what this is about, and they're pushing the
limits of power to see who they can get away
with it on and who's going and who's going to
stand up, who's going to fight back, what kind of
public outrage is going to be because that's the only
mechanism and measure of control that we have at our
disposal to fight that. This is criminal what they're doing.
They know it's criminal what they're doing, and they're seeing

(25:38):
just how far they can take it.

Speaker 1 (25:40):
So political says watch this video here when they ask
do I have a war?

Speaker 2 (25:46):
Do I have a warrant? Watch? Listen to this?

Speaker 3 (25:59):
Who's old thing? That the little thing? Then then the
little thing?

Speaker 22 (26:14):
Man?

Speaker 3 (26:14):
What are you can't see? Then they the other thing?
That a.

Speaker 23 (26:23):
D No, we.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
See we we also saw them snatch a college student
not even identifying themselves, and so in some cases you're like,
who the hell are you people?

Speaker 19 (26:47):
So what is Congress going to.

Speaker 18 (26:48):
Do right, like we're we're just allowed for this to happen.
What is Congress going to do? And I'm not talking
about the Democrats.

Speaker 5 (26:54):
They're brave.

Speaker 19 (26:55):
I gotta give it to them.

Speaker 18 (26:56):
They are in a Salvador trying to do the damn thing.
But what are the Republicans going to do?

Speaker 2 (27:01):
Nothing? The Republicans. The Republicans are in the pocket of Trump.
The Republicans are they're cheering this on, you know, they're not.

Speaker 18 (27:09):
They're not going to stop right until somebody dies, like
Zach said, And they're still not going to stop.

Speaker 19 (27:17):
What is good about this?

Speaker 2 (27:19):
People are okay.

Speaker 18 (27:20):
With this because it's not happening to them, But why
does it have to happen to them for them to
be concerned? Like the judge says, But basically, we're in.

Speaker 19 (27:30):
The we are in a constitutional crisis, and.

Speaker 18 (27:33):
They are okay with this. They're not just going to
stop there. We already see what they're doing with the
safe and they're coming after all these white women who
voted for him. Guess what they're coming after your ass next.
They don't even want you to vote vote anymore. They
don't want you to vote anymore. So now what do
you have if you don't have your voice.

Speaker 1 (27:54):
Well, what we're saying here, Joy is very simple. A
party that there's always law and order, law and order,
law and order. You must follow the law, you must comply.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
And they are openly saying that we're not complying, we
don't care.

Speaker 14 (28:11):
Correct, they've never been about lawn order. They are liars.
If that were the case, then everyone who is a
part of January sixth would still be in jail.

Speaker 12 (28:20):
Right.

Speaker 14 (28:20):
These are criminal actors, believe me, in the Republican Party.

Speaker 5 (28:24):
But it's worse than that.

Speaker 14 (28:25):
They are afraid because they have seen Donald Trump coming,
I think even longer than some of us have, and
they are responding in kind. This is some of them
are responding out of fear. So to the point of
where is Congress, Because let me tell you, if you
can start with undocumented, then move to people who have
a legal status but are not citizens. Where they're going
next are citizens that are in jail. They'll start there

(28:49):
and then they'll move on to other types of citizens,
citizens who just don't agree with the administration.

Speaker 5 (28:55):
They're working up to. They want to get Liz Cheney.

Speaker 14 (28:58):
They want to find a way to arrest her right,
they'll find ways to all of us. And these Republicans
understand it that in many respects they feel afraid they
are powerless to stop it. In their minds, that is
what part of this is doing. And they have to
keep supporting this person because they understand what will happen
to them. First, if you are Mike Pince, he tried

(29:21):
to kill his own vice president. We're not being alarmist here.
We're telling you what happened so that we can get
in the way of it. That's where this is going.
So they absolutely will have to do something about it.
Right now, we've got to be evaluating these what are
the avenues to Congress and the courts well to block
and authoritarian government.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Well, first of all, they happen, is real clear botb
line is it has to be the course. But again,
if they choose to say, prosecute a criminal contempt, the
dj is going to do whatever they want to. Pam
Bondi is nothing more than unlackey for Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
There's no independence there.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
And so these people want to continue their thuggish behavior,
going to go to break We come back thinking of
this stugger's behavior. Now, Donald Trump wants the irs to
pull the tax exempt status of Harvard because Harvard refuses
to bow down and kiss his ass. We'll discuss that
next right here, roland Mark unfilch on the Blacksto Network.

Speaker 22 (30:20):
Well, the nexts Get Wealthy with me Deborah Owens, America's
wealth coach. I'm sure you've heard that saying that the
only thing guaranteed is death and taxes.

Speaker 5 (30:31):
The truth is that the wealthy get.

Speaker 22 (30:33):
Wealthy er by understanding tax strategy. And that's exactly the
conversation that we're going to have on the next Get Wealthy,
where you're going to learn wealth pack that hope you
turned your wages into wealth.

Speaker 24 (30:50):
Taxes is one of the largest extents that you've ever had.
You really got to know how to manage that thing
and get that under control so that.

Speaker 20 (30:57):
You can do wealth.

Speaker 22 (30:59):
That's right here on Get Wealthy only on Blackstar Network.

Speaker 13 (31:04):
I'm Russell ol Honoree Lieutenant Gerald United States Sorrow retired,
and you're watching rurald Martin.

Speaker 15 (31:09):
I'm felzing.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
So Donald Trump said We're gonna withhold two point two
billion dollars from Harvard, and Harvard was like, I Cole,
we got a fifty three billion dollar endowment. After that,
Mit said, hey, we're not gonna bend the need to
you as well. Now, all of a sudden, Trump and
his maggots, they are now saying, oh, they should lose

(31:39):
their task exim status.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
This is what the idiot, the.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Twice impeached, criminally convicted fella in cheap Donald the con
Trump posted on his crappy social media app. Perhaps Harvard
should lose his tastic exim status and be taxed as
a political entity if it keeps pushing political ideological and
terrorists inspired supporting sickness.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Remember that man's english is awful.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Remember task exemp status is totally contingent on acting in.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
The public interest.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Okay, CNN then reports that the IRS is working to
do that very same thing.

Speaker 2 (32:23):
Now what is this about, Well, this really about is.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
They're not bending their knee. Let me say it again.
They're not biling. They're not coyle twing like the law
firms did.

Speaker 2 (32:35):
See.

Speaker 1 (32:35):
See, this is the mistake that you make when you
negotiate with a thug like Donald Trump. You negotiate with
the thug. The thug is never satisfied. The thug comes
back and ask for more, like he's doing with the
law firms. This is the C and N story IRS
making plans to received harvest tax exempts status, they say

(32:58):
they According to sources, a found decision on rescinding the
university's tax exhibit is expected soon. This is about how
dare you not suck up and hire who we want?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Harvard?

Speaker 1 (33:15):
We want you to admit hardcore conservative students. Oh CNN,
y'all need to be hiring more MAGA Republicans. I thought
they were all about merit. It sounds like they want
MAGA white affirmative action, Zachary.

Speaker 17 (33:33):
It's one hundred percent what they're wanting, one hundred percent
because you've had organizations capitulating. Now they're saying that everyone's
going to do it. And the thought that they would
go to our Ivy League institution is really to any
institution of higher learning, any institution period that is focused
on learning and tell them what they must do in
order to give funds is criminal. But this is what

(33:53):
I want to see. That's fine, you want to play
this game now. I want Democrats when we retake the
House in twenty twenty six, and when we retake the
Oval Office in twenty eight, I want to see them
take away the tax exempt status of evangelical churches all
around this country, and every single Sunday in the poolpit
to advocate for Donald Trump, to campaign for Donald Trump,

(34:14):
and to misalign that teaches that you just christ from
that poolpit and misalign it to Donald Trump.

Speaker 16 (34:19):
I want them to lose detext as if status, then.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
Oh yeah, that'll be quite fascinating.

Speaker 19 (34:24):
Political says, why would they do that? Zach right, They're
not going to do that.

Speaker 18 (34:30):
But this reminds me this is why he likes dictators.
Right again, this is part of history. This is what
you know Hitler did. This is what Putin did. This
is nothing new. This is how they maintained their power. This,
I mean, this is no coincidence that he's doing this
with law firms, law firms. This is how they maintain power.

(34:50):
But the problem is, I mean, this doesn't have to happen.
It doesn't if Congress, If Republicans will get a damn
spine and don't worry about if they're not re elected
again and focus on their country.

Speaker 19 (35:03):
That's what's supposed to come first.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Political Come on, now, that's that's that's wasted breath, asking
Republicans to get us right. You're right, asking them to
get us spine extremely wasted, breathing.

Speaker 18 (35:14):
That the only damn thing that we can do, hopefully
is just encourage our damn people to get out there
and vote right.

Speaker 19 (35:21):
That's the only damn.

Speaker 18 (35:21):
Thing we could do, like Zach said, because if we don't,
this is going to ship fast.

Speaker 17 (35:28):
But one Jordan, you know, and a small aside in
the level of power does resist with Republicans. But it's
not elected Republicans. It's the Republican constituents in those districts.
And we're seeing those Republicans stand up in aile. We've
seen them stand up uh in Indiana. We're seeing them
go and confront these people in town halls. We even
saw them confront Marius Tayley Green in a district that

(35:51):
wasn't even her district because her district has weigh too
many unhappy Republicans and too many Democrats in their redistricting process.
So she went to another Congression to have her she
still got her ass handed to her. We've got to
have Republicans the voter. Republican voters realized that they fucked up,
realize that they're in pain, and they're going to have

(36:12):
to put their producide on up to the fact that
they are they made some bad decisions and push these
people to do the right thing. That they're the ones
we have the power.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
But joy I saw, joy I saw I saw polling
down that said the only places where Trump is not
underwater rurle white men, no college degree.

Speaker 19 (36:35):
That's right.

Speaker 14 (36:36):
I mean, look, you know those are constituents, and frankly,
with rural America, with these attacks on Medicaid, he's about
to lose them because they're about to lose their hospitals,
so good luck with that. With the ending of the
Affordable Connectivity program, they're about to lose their their ability.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
To have affordable broadband.

Speaker 14 (36:55):
So you know, we'll see how they are with rural
Americans and what that continue. Look, the fact of the
matter is Republicans can sue. That is one of the
things not just Republicans excuse me, Congress can sue. Now
we have some Democratic members who are beginning to file
lawsuits to defend the right of their branch right. So
that's what this is also about. It's about having three

(37:18):
coqual branches and one branch, the executive branch, encroaching upon
the rights of the legislative branch, so frankly, Speaker Johnson
ought to be representing his branch in and of itself.
The founders never anticipated that one branch will capitulate to
the other. We stand on the fact of having separation
of powers, but even without that, other Republicans can come

(37:40):
together to force him to sue to say, look, we
have to defend our territory here the other And this
is happening at some of the committee levels, but not
at the top level, which is where we needed. The
other thing is, if you are a Republican in a
district that is you know, a little more purple right,
having your members put pressure on you perhaps to change

(38:02):
your party affiliation. There are one in two people away
from losing their control of the House right, which would
and it is not as much of a problem. So
we could also have a Republican right who chooses to
switch parties, because that's where we are here.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
Well, like, I ain't got no hope that's gonna happen,
So I'm just letting y'all know that. But let's we
do want to talk about again the thug behavior. You
talk about what they're trying to do with the RS.
This is some really, really thug behavior. So Donald Trump
has tapped this blathering idiot idiot who actually wants to
get rid of the RS, to be the RS commissioner.

Speaker 2 (38:40):
But the lever News report of.

Speaker 1 (38:41):
This here Trump IRS pick just enriched by tax schemers.
New documents showed Billy Long's one hundred and thirty thousand
dollars personal debt was suddenly paid off by donors at
firms police but the tax agency he lead. Yeah, that's
right there in the story. That's the whole deal right here.
So talk about the payoff. We still wondering political cysts,

(39:04):
who the hell paid off the debts of Brett Cavanaugh
went on Supreme Court. But this is somebody who's supposed
to be overseeing of the RS and speaking the RS
as well. The tax filing system, the RS tax filing system.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
The Trump administration desperately wants to.

Speaker 1 (39:22):
Get rid of a direct file. Now, mind you what
was direct file created? Direct file was created so taxpayers
can file their taxes for free. But guests who opposed it,
all the all of the tax preparation companies and guests

(39:44):
who poured money into Trump's bank accounts, the tax preparation companies.

Speaker 2 (39:50):
I'm gonna confuse. Why would you.

Speaker 1 (39:52):
Want to get rid of a program that it helps
regular ordinary people.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
Oh that's right, political cysts.

Speaker 1 (39:59):
You don't give a damn about regular ordinary people, right,
but you do care about rich donors.

Speaker 19 (40:06):
We already established this. You're absolutely right.

Speaker 18 (40:08):
I mean thirteen, He has at least thirteen billionaires in
his cabinet right now. That is over four hundred and
fifty billion dollars. Think about that, over four hundred and
four hundred and fifty billion dollars. Do y'all really think
this man gives a damn about the ordinary person, the
average person, the working class person, that person that lives

(40:29):
in the Royal area that always vote for his ass No,
he does not, and he will not. Of course they
want to get rid of the RS. I don't even
know what's going to have a toid taxes. Are anybody
going to have to pay taxes this year? Anybody going
to have to pay tax right?

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Check this out, Joy, go back to my iPad. Henry
direct file was rolled out as a pilot program in
twenty twenty four after the IRS was tasked with looking
into how to create a direct file system as part
of the money it received from the Inflation Reduction Act,
sign into law by Biden in twenty twenty two. The
Democratic administration ten put tens of millions of dollars in

(41:06):
develop developing program. Oh but Thers faced intense blowback to
direct File from private tax preparation of companies that have
made billions from charging people to use their software, and
they have spent millions lobbying in Congress. The average American
typically spends about one hundred and forty bucks a year

(41:26):
preparing returns.

Speaker 2 (41:27):
Each year, the.

Speaker 1 (41:28):
RS accepted one hundred and forty eight hundred and three
returns filed by taxpayers using direct File in the twelve
states where it was available last tax season. It was
expanded to include half the country this year. It is
unclear how many taxpayers I've used direct file this year.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
It's all about the money for the big companies. That's
why came said.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
He never he never gave a damn about working people,
regular ordinary people. Those idiots, they voted for this line
blabbering food, and now they're going to have to pay
for it.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
That is correct. They're going to pay for it across
a range of areas. Here's the thing.

Speaker 19 (42:05):
If you are a.

Speaker 14 (42:05):
Tax preparing company. You could do things to get additional customers.
You could provide a better product. You could provide a
product that's a little cheaper so that people can say,
you know what, maybe I want to use a tax
preparer because it reduces any kind of error, or I
want to I mean like, there are lots of things
you can do in America where capitalist system make a

(42:26):
better product.

Speaker 5 (42:27):
The consumers never wrong.

Speaker 14 (42:29):
They've chosen a different avenue, one that is free for them,
one that results in properly filed taxes. Because we work
to make the tax system more fair and a little
more democratic and a little easier for people who have
simple tax returns.

Speaker 5 (42:48):
That's as we should be doing. We're paying taxes and
it shouldn't be difficult to us. That is ridiculous. If
you are a tax preparer, you should be working to
make a.

Speaker 14 (42:58):
Better product, not fighting people having a better way right
to found their tax right the scene, and Donald Trump
is aligned with these people, dictators and people that would thwart.

Speaker 19 (43:12):
You right, you could your consumer right.

Speaker 1 (43:14):
Well, bottom line is it's all about the billionaires, pure
and simple. Quick Brant, we come back. We all knew
Robert F. Kenny Junior was stupid but wait, I play
out with this food said about people's autism that man
I think he's still on Heroin.

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Speaker 20 (44:59):
Hi.

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Hi, my name is LaToya Luckett, and you're watching Roland
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Speaker 1 (45:24):
All right, Robert Cannon Junior is pretty stupid. He's the
Secretary of Healthy Him of Services. We knew he was
an idiot. His family members told us he was an idiot.
I mean, they said, do not confirm.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
This dumb ass.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
Listen to what this fool said today about people with autism.

Speaker 26 (45:38):
Sir, This is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families.
More importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are our children.
These are children who should not be who should not
be suffering like this. These are kids who, many of them,
were fully functional and regressed because of some environmental exposure

(46:04):
into autism. When they're two years old. And these are
kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never hold a job,
they'll never play baseball, they'll never write a poem, they'll
never go out on a date. Many of them will
never use a toilet unassisted. And we have to recognize

(46:28):
we are doing this to our children.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
Roll it that, sir.

Speaker 26 (46:43):
This is an individual tragedy as well. Autism destroys families,
and more importantly, it destroys our greatest resource, which are
our children. These are children who should not be who
should not be suffering like this. Are kids who, many
of them, were fully functional and regressed because of some

(47:06):
environmental exposure into autism when they're two years old. And
these are kids who will never pay taxes. They'll never
hold a job, they'll never play baseball, they'll never write
a poem, they'll never go out on a date. Many
of them will never use a toilet unassisted. And we

(47:29):
have to recognize we are doing this to our children.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
They're not going to date, they're not going to use
the able to use the bathroom.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
They're not going they're not going to have whole jobs
or pay taxes. Holly Robinson Pete, the actress her son
has autism.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
She was livid.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
We were texting early and she said, I'm posting a
response to that.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
I'll go to my ipay. This is what she said.

Speaker 1 (47:58):
My twenty seven year old son with autism didn't quote
destroy our family. He gave us purpose in unity. Ah
and he pays taxes. Political says, what the hell?

Speaker 18 (48:12):
I take this so personally, this is really personal to me.
My best friend's son. You know, he has autism, and
to sit there and exploit families like this is just wrong.

Speaker 19 (48:23):
It's the same damn thing.

Speaker 18 (48:24):
That he did when he went over there into the
other country I can't think of the name right now.
It starts with an S and told them people that
the measle vaccine was not worth it.

Speaker 19 (48:35):
Don't do it.

Speaker 18 (48:36):
Over eighty damn people died, most of them kids. This
shit is not okay, and that motherfucker can go do.
I'm not gonna say that, but he's a damn lie
because my son, my best friend's son, that is one
of the best things that ever happens to her and
her husband and her daughter into me because he brings

(48:56):
joy every damn time I walk in that damn.

Speaker 19 (48:59):
Door to me me.

Speaker 18 (49:01):
Somebody needs to get rid of his ASDs because what
he's doing is lying about kids, all kids, it's different spectrums.

Speaker 19 (49:08):
Well, we don't even know what the.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
Fuck he's talking about.

Speaker 18 (49:10):
You don't know what he's talking about. As if they
don't feel, Lord, they don't love, what the fuck is
he talking about? So I take that person, I really do.
I take that person.

Speaker 19 (49:23):
And it's sad. I'm sorry, Joy.

Speaker 14 (49:26):
No, no, no, you're right, we all take it personally.
I have an autistic child, you know, in my life
through one of my friends as well, and it really
and and probably more right, autism. There are many there
are many ends of the autistic spectrum, right, So you
know there are many people who are high functioning like
any of us on this call, and many who have
more severe disability. So you know what you know Robert Kennedy,

(49:50):
he is obviously a liar. He's obviously someone who does
not guard his words carefully. He does not have respect
for the office that he is holding.

Speaker 15 (50:01):
He shouldn't have it.

Speaker 14 (50:03):
His own family has said he shouldn't have it. He's
been destructive who what he has been is destructive to
his family. He has been a blight on his family's
legacy and now Unfortunately, he's been unleashed onto the rest
of US and the country that he went to told

(50:24):
those lies to, which resulted in eighty depths of people
who believed him with Samoa. And so, you know, this
is an irresponsible person. He needs to focus on what's
happening in his agency, which he admitted this week he
doesn't even know where all the cuts are his agency, Zachy.

Speaker 16 (50:45):
You know, well, let me give us a statistic.

Speaker 17 (50:47):
I was fortunate enough to serve as a public school
educator for seventeen years. In that timeframe, I worked for
ten years in a high school that was the county's
autism unit. Percent of children who are living, learning, and
thriving with autism are able to use the restroom on

(51:08):
their own with zero assistance at the time they are
five years old.

Speaker 16 (51:12):
That's a fact right there.

Speaker 17 (51:13):
And the fact that this man is sitting in his
seat and doesn't know that and would get on a
national stage until the whole world something that's completely unch
you in opposite, it should be extremely alarming to everyone.
To everyone, it's offensive, it's wrong, and it's bad science,
just like all the science this been has brought to
the American people. And then he's doing time and time
and time again.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
They will and I just I just sit here and
again I'm telling you these people they are insane.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
I don't there's no other word you can describe they
You're insane.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
And as Adam Surr wrote in the Atlantic last time,
he said, cruelty.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
Is the point. That is the point.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
That is what they are all about us, what they
are fixated on.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
It is about cruelty.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
It is how they treat people, how they how they
just destroy people.

Speaker 2 (52:10):
That's who they are. Robert F.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Kennedy Junior is an absolute idiot and that worm has
to be expanding in his damn brain.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
All right, y'all going to go to break.

Speaker 1 (52:21):
We come back say Augustin's University. We had our panel
there on our town hall there on Friday, Detroit. Pastor
is asking some questions like where in the hell is.

Speaker 2 (52:32):
The fifty thousand dollars I sent? Y'all. We'll have him next,
rolling back down. Filtered on the Black Stun Network.

Speaker 25 (52:41):
This week on a Balanced Life with Doctor Jackie Here
on Blackstar.

Speaker 5 (52:44):
Network, we are talking about all things. You got it
stress related, yes, the big ass, whether.

Speaker 25 (52:51):
It's spiritual, physical, emotional, or sometimes it could be just
in your head. Stress has a way of manifesting hls
in our lives and such way that it disrupts who
we are and who we're in the process of becoming.

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Stress is just as bad as a lot of the
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Speaker 14 (53:19):
Hello everyone, if Kiera here, Hey, I'm Ty, I'm Coco,
and I'm Lee, and of you me.

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Speaker 2 (53:47):
Right, folks.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
You know we were in Raleigh, North Carolina on Friday
for our town hall Saint Augusta's University.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
We learned a whole lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
We've received numerous calls and emails about other issues related
to the ski whose finances well. I got text message
from a pastor Detroit who hit me and said he
done any fifty thousand dollars to a scholarship fund, but
can't get any answers about it. Reverend Horror Sheffield the Third,
the CEO of the Detroit Association of Black Organizations, ain't

(54:17):
jones us right now?

Speaker 2 (54:19):
Passing. Good to see you.

Speaker 27 (54:21):
Hey man, I'm glad to be on the air with
the Independent Voice.

Speaker 15 (54:26):
And the Wilderness.

Speaker 2 (54:26):
You know, you.

Speaker 15 (54:29):
Don't throw a rock man, you kind of shoot the missile.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Well, my man comedian Chris Paul, he always calls me
a Twitter sniper, and I said, I said, look, I
will swing on you and take you out. So I
got no problem. I ain't got no problem doing that.
So that's how we roll. Let me, let's sit here
and let's let's talk about a couple of things. Let's

(54:55):
talk about a couple of things, folks. And first, so
when we send it, you know you're gonna love this.
We sent an in an email to Sen Augustus saying
we were discussing this. They sent us an email at
five fifty nine pm right before we went live. This
is the statement that they sent us send. Augustin's University
would like to express our sincere gratitude to Reverend Horrace

(55:17):
Sheffield the third for his past generosity and support of
our institution. We are aware of recent concerns shared regarding
a claim of fifty thousand dollars in donations made to
the university. Our records indicate that a total of thirty
thousand dollars in cash contributions was received, twenty five thousand
designated for student scholarships, and five thousand dollars designated as
a sponsorship for the university's Jazz Brunch. Due to administrative

(55:41):
transitions and changes and staffing over the past three years,
our current financial aid and Advancement team are actively reviewing
the application of these funds during that period. While we
have not previously received an inquiry from referend Sheffield regarding
this batter, we're more than willing to provide a comprehensive
report once our internal review is complete. Bite significant challenges, saying,

(56:01):
Augustin's University is working diligently to address the gaps of
previous administrations and strengthen our stewardship of donor intent, transparency,
and institutional accountability. These internal efforts are critical to our
commitment to repairing and rebuilding the trust of our alumni, donors,
and the broader community.

Speaker 2 (56:20):
As stated in previous.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Communications, our current leadership team focuses on three urgent priorities,
maintaining accreditation through these SACS s SEOC arbitration process, securing
vital funding to ensure long term financial sustainability and supporting
our students, especially graduating seniors, through the remainder of the semester.
For these regions, the university's president and Board of Trustees

(56:42):
are not currently participating in media engagements. We thank Reverend
Sheffield for support and appreciate the continued belief in the
mission in the future of Saint Augustus University of our alumni.

Speaker 27 (56:53):
Endnors Well, I don't know where it again at Lee.
First of all, say that I didn't know how much
had been given. I did make a commitment of fifty
thousand dollars. I'm not a millionaire, so that's significant money
to me, and I've was trying to find out doctor
macpheild was there. They were extremely attentive. They visited Detroit.

(57:14):
I opened my building up, the same one you spoke in.
You see Saint Augustine's logo on the outside of that building,
registering students and trying.

Speaker 15 (57:22):
To help with whatever I could.

Speaker 27 (57:24):
But what concerns me with the email you got reviewing
the application of these funds. I've been asking for three
years where's the money at? And I've had many conversations.
They actually referred me to someone who I guess manages
the funds, and I was told by the university and
them that all of their money had been frozen and
even donor money was tied up and nothing could happen

(57:47):
with it.

Speaker 1 (57:48):
So when they say we have not had any inquiry
for River Sheffield, that's a lot that's not true.

Speaker 15 (57:55):
I've talked to administrators.

Speaker 27 (57:56):
I've talked to one of them referred me to where
the money is supposedly being managed.

Speaker 15 (58:03):
But what I got from all of them was because.

Speaker 27 (58:06):
Of the financial situation at the school, that all their
funds have been frozen. Well how can how can designated
money be frozen? And even the response, I mean, I
went to the law school for two years reviewing the
application of these funds, so they almost admitting that they
spent them. And that's the only reason they don't have
the other twenty five because I couldn't get any real

(58:29):
answer about this. Now, I donated this money in the
honor of my sister, doctor Levon Sheffield, superintendent schools all
over country work with Bill and malindigates of you know,
just a brilliant scholar and you know, so I'm still conserved.
And not only that, by the way, Roland, I've also

(58:50):
have a few students that I personally paid tuition for
and assisted financially as well.

Speaker 2 (58:57):
See what jumps out here. This is where it's supposed
to be.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
When somebody gives, they're supposed to be a designated account
where that money is housed.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
It's not supposed to be used for general purposes.

Speaker 1 (59:13):
It's not supposed to be tapped into no matter who
comes in and leaves. As president, your financial situation is
supposed to be solid where you know exactly where the
money is. And so perfect example, I gave twenty five
thousand dollars to the Houston Independent School District for scholarships

(59:35):
at my high school, Jack Yates High School. One is
supposed to be two per year, one for general population students.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
And one four hour school of communications.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
And so for me, I'm able to sit here and go,
I know how many years we've given that, so I
know how much it's left in that particular scholarship fund.
I can pick the phone up or send an email,
and like matter of fact, gonna do that because I
always go down to Houston when we hand out the scholarship.

(01:00:06):
So my deal, they're gonna be getting an email from
me tonight or tomorrow said, hey, I need to date
when we are giving out the scholarship.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
This is not that complicated.

Speaker 27 (01:00:17):
No, And you know, here's the issue for me and
the reason I wanted to do this interview. I mean,
I have some basic issues with self governing boards.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
I mean, Paul absolutely, I mean.

Speaker 27 (01:00:29):
I don't know how anyone could survive in an institution
like that. If the board alone has no one above
them or below them, they can make them do any
kind of thing. So I'm not trying to both smoke
out my nose like you roll and I work hard
for my money. You don't know, want more money to
work that I wanted to work. And I'm telling you

(01:00:50):
I've had at least three people I spoke with at
this university. In fact, I was signed up to teach
New Testament and religious studies and I've got several degrees,
enrolled students, and then this DOCR mcfel was let go.
And I will also tell you I know for a
fact that someone else was let go there because they

(01:01:10):
went into endowment money. Don't the money and transferred it
with a phone call right to wherever the money.

Speaker 15 (01:01:19):
Was and had to transfer to the university.

Speaker 27 (01:01:21):
So I mean That's why I put a heart on
the other twenty five thousand, and I just wanted to
know where my money was and what I think maybe
one of the reasons there's been some hesitancy is I'm
also very involved with Waynekon of Community College District, which
is eighty thousand primary African students, and I thought about
transferring the money over there where you know, it could

(01:01:44):
have more local impact. I know the chancellor, doctor Ivy
very well and he pours into my organization, and I.

Speaker 15 (01:01:51):
Just brought that up.

Speaker 27 (01:01:53):
You know, can I get my money since I'm not
satisfied number one with what's happened to doctor mcphel. I
don't know if you know about some of the land
deals that took place there. Yeah, I mean, it's a
whole bunch of stuff. And then when I saw your
program and you talk with the gentleman who's been successful
and get an accreditation for some HBCUs.

Speaker 15 (01:02:16):
That lost it and they not even returned the phone call.
That bothered me.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
See what.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
The issue that I have here? And this is so
here's what people need to understand. And I love these
folks who always running their mouths. I interned at the
Houston Defender in nineteen ninety. One of the first stories
I wrote that summer was when the board got rid
of at Texas out the university's president, James Douglas, did

(01:02:48):
an audit and they discovered lax financial lax financial standards,
and how scholarship money was being used and diverted to
other programs.

Speaker 2 (01:03:01):
That was nineteen ninety. So let's be real clear. For
thirty five.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
Years, I have been reporting on various things, good, bad,
and ugly at HBCUs. So when you text me, I
knew exactly you know what this was, and this whole
and all this well, you know, we were reviewing and
we're looking at this, and we're doing this and well,

(01:03:27):
you know, our board and our administration. Let's just be
real clear. That's a bunch and you passed us. So
I ain't gonna cuss in this segment, but they're gonna
make me cuss.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
It's a bunch of bs.

Speaker 23 (01:03:40):
I have had it.

Speaker 15 (01:03:41):
That's a crocker, it right, you.

Speaker 1 (01:03:43):
Know, it's it's it's I mean again, first of all,
ass is in the is in the Bible, so I
could use that word. Bishop William Barber gave me that permission.
But here's the thing that's crazy to me. I've had
numerous HBCU prays on this show. I've had presidents. I

(01:04:05):
can't remember, Carroll, remind me what the school was. We
had one HBCU that was going through accreditation problems, had
financial problems. They came on the show. These people are
hiding from the public.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
You can if you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:21):
Got all those But first of all, y'all give me
the board members.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
If you got a president.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Now, if the communication person got time to send us emails,
he got time to come on the show, that's six
board members right here, go ahead, seventy nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen.

Speaker 15 (01:04:39):
Is that it?

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
That's thirteen board members that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:44):
You got a president. You got other people. So all
y'all busy, y'all can't.

Speaker 1 (01:04:50):
Talk to the public, but you want the public to
support you financially, right, Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:04:58):
I think that the the notion, and I heard you
mentioned this during that broadcast, or the self appointing board.
You know, they get public moneys, they get scholarship moneys
from the National Negro College. From all of that, it
seemed to me it lends itself to some kind of
public scrutiny. They make decisions among themselves that effect that

(01:05:23):
institution in the great weight.

Speaker 15 (01:05:25):
I say to you right now, I'm more concerned than
I was before.

Speaker 27 (01:05:28):
When I got the letters at REW reviewing the application
of these.

Speaker 15 (01:05:32):
Funds, we alread how the fund's supposed to be applied.

Speaker 27 (01:05:35):
Now, the five thousand dollars, they win a basketball tournament
and they were having a bunch wherever this was being held,
and they didn't have enough sponsorship money. So I wrote
an additional five thousand for that. That's not a part
of of the fifty. I froze my giving when I
couldn't get answers.

Speaker 15 (01:05:54):
I knew people who worked there.

Speaker 27 (01:05:55):
By the way, I caught the President's office who actually
told me where most of the moneys were, and I
made some inquiries there as well, and I just you know,
it was told basically that all all school.

Speaker 15 (01:06:09):
Money has been frozen. And I don't know how you
freeze my.

Speaker 27 (01:06:14):
Money when when you know it was given with the
intent to help students who had a tough time graduating.

Speaker 15 (01:06:21):
I mean, you and I both know the value of
a real education and the difference that it makes. My
great grandmother that to be one hundred and twelve, she had.

Speaker 27 (01:06:29):
A third grade education, she said, you know that she'd
walk she would walk miles for a fourth grade, fourth
grade education, and she wanted to make certain other folks
that have to go where she went through, so that
that kind of governs what I do.

Speaker 1 (01:06:42):
You know, Well, listen, it's legitimate if anybody gives money
for a scholarship on first of all, you.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Want to know where the money is.

Speaker 1 (01:06:51):
And the second thing is you want to know who's
getting the scholarships, how are you awarding it, what's the process?
What's the standard here? Those are just some basic questions.

Speaker 27 (01:07:01):
Well, the real question is this and the reason that
it prompted my concern is when you hear the school
is about to close, I mean, all the financial woes
they have.

Speaker 15 (01:07:12):
The first question I have is where's my money in that?

Speaker 1 (01:07:15):
You know, because you may decide to say, hey, let
me take my balance and take it to another HBCU.

Speaker 27 (01:07:22):
Right right, But I can never get an accounting for
the money of where the money was, who was managing
the money and steal I tell you, as we sit
and talk that line reviewing the application of these funds,
there's nothing to review. We know how fund's supposed to
be applied, all right, they'll come here, you know, retroactively

(01:07:45):
telling them you gave money to this student and that
student because.

Speaker 15 (01:07:48):
The other thing. And I'm gonna find the agreement that
I was supposed to be involved boom, and some of
the designation of this money.

Speaker 1 (01:07:57):
There you go see and get So listen, this is
what I need people to understand. This is not about
an extra grind. This is not about well, why are
you picking on Saint Augustus?

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Folks always say that. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:08:13):
I heard the same nonsense from the dude down there
Bathoonne Cookman when FIST got rid of their president and
I called them out. The board chair had an attitude
about that as well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
I can go down the line.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
But then I can show you all these other folks
who said, man, thank you, there's a show out here
that's giving some limelight to the good things and the
great things happening at our HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:08:36):
And again, if you want.

Speaker 1 (01:08:38):
Us to cover the good stuff, but the bad stuff happened,
that stuff gonna get a cover too.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
And folk, I had people that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:45):
Fam you who were cussing my name when we talked
about what went on down there with the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:50):
Band and the food and all kinds of stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
But then I had people walking to me praising and
thanking me, parents and alumni saying, man, I'm sure glass
somebody hit them with that light.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
And so there's a reason that Ida B.

Speaker 1 (01:09:01):
Wells's portrait is sitting in our studio where her quote
you shine the light upon them in darkness. There's a
reason we have that. And HBCU folk, this is real simple.
If you want people to stand with you and support you,
then you got to give real answers. And Saint Augustine's
as you laid out, they have not done that with

(01:09:23):
a lot of different people, and that's why they're in
the trouble they're in now.

Speaker 15 (01:09:27):
And we ought to go back to the days again.

Speaker 27 (01:09:30):
My great grandmother had been a slave, died in nineteen
sixt two hundred and twelve. When I came up Roland.
You know, we were told we had to do twice
as well. We always had to do better. And it's
the reasonable expectation for us to make these universities more accountable,
especially in the.

Speaker 15 (01:09:48):
Are in which we live. And so there has to
be accountability.

Speaker 27 (01:09:53):
I mean, there are all kinds of real estate deals
that went on their leases and all that I mean,
I was privy to that, but I was all so
very comfortable with the leadership and the way that you know,
they worked with me about how they were overcoming these things.
So I'm not trying to, uh, you know, put put
a lid on them. I'm trying to put the light
on them.

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Absolutely, Rever Sheffield, whatever you're here, let us know.

Speaker 15 (01:10:17):
And you know, I'm a fan of yours.

Speaker 2 (01:10:19):
You know that I appreciate it. I appreciate it.

Speaker 15 (01:10:21):
And we got to have you back. People still talking
about your visit over there.

Speaker 1 (01:10:24):
Well, I had a great time when I was in Detroit.
Would love to come back. But if I come back, Doc,
it got to be warmer.

Speaker 16 (01:10:32):
What it's warm now?

Speaker 1 (01:10:33):
I raised the Lord because Lord, it was because the
snow came down that night.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
It was cold. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
When I left, I was in Chicago six years. I vowed, man,
don't go to the Midwest seven months out of the year.

Speaker 2 (01:10:48):
But I still had a great time there.

Speaker 15 (01:10:49):
Well.

Speaker 27 (01:10:49):
See, I was told, I was told that only you
were your ray mad because you were a snow chaser.

Speaker 15 (01:10:54):
So I don't know what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:10:55):
Now I can't I can't play golf when it's snowing.
So I don't know who said that. You see, I
got my Houston Rocket shirt on.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
I believe in the heat. I appreciate it. Keep us
the breast, thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
All right, So, uh, saying Augustus, get that man, some
dog gone answers. Don't be taking fifty thousand dollars and
then you don't you don't see them and give some
folks some answers.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Man, I don't make you the sense. And I'm tired
of these excuses.

Speaker 18 (01:11:23):
And he coming.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
We're focusing. We said there are three things we're focused on. Man, Please.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
You know what.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
I'm gonna go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:11:32):
I'm gonna go ahead and say this here, okay, saying Augustus,
answer this for me. Your president had time to sit
down for an interview with w R A L t V.
Should I I'm sorry, should should I pull it up?

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Should I pull up.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
The interview and show y'all see see this is my
problem here. Don't sit here and tell me you got
time to sit down with white media, but you can't
sit down with black media.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Mm hmmmm hmm. See all that coverage there.

Speaker 1 (01:12:16):
Don't sit here and talk about how oh you've got
you know you trying to sit here and raise money
and all that sort of stuff, but you ain't got
time to sit down with black on media.

Speaker 2 (01:12:32):
Mm hmmm mm hmm, Yeah, I said it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:39):
She's amazing how folks want to run from accountability and
you don't want to come talk to black owned media
that is always average.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
See see, y'all gonna make me. Let me just go ahead,
just do this here, you can go ahead.

Speaker 1 (01:12:57):
See, so y'all need to understand some Let me just
go ahead and do this here here you can zoom
that camera, so won't you zoom my camera too? So
some of y'all need to understand right here. And I
already told y'all all the HBCUs I've been too. So
some of y'all don't even realize right here, right here, See,
y'all might be sitting there like, man, roll, why you

(01:13:18):
got all this stuff on your desk? So just say,
y'all understand, because see here's always the people who are
running their miles. Okay, see this here, this was one
of the Saint Augustine shirt we got while we were there. Okay,
so just cand y'all confused, that's a Sat Augustine shirt. Now,
when I spoke there several years ago. This was the

(01:13:39):
This was the hoodie they gave me at Saint Augustine.
But see, we ain't done here. See some of y'all
don't even understand. Okay, Fairville State University. Let me go ahead,
sit here, do a roll call. Okay, that's somebody else
shirt they mailed me, So I throw that out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:13:56):
Okay, Well we got right here.

Speaker 1 (01:13:58):
Huh it was Water University, Fort Valley State University. See
said some of y'all people want to question, you know,
stay right there. Some of y'all want to question. Y'all
think I'm joking. See, I got a whole closet here.

Speaker 2 (01:14:16):
Where all of our hbcustuffs. Y'all think I'm joking.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
Okay, Butthune, Cookman, Jackson State, Langston University, Florida Memorial. Oh,
win done what we got here? Winston Salem State, moor House.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
What we got in here?

Speaker 20 (01:14:51):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
Oh, Dealer University grad I'm in the state. See, this
is all swag I only wear.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
I wear a lot of that's on the show.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
I only wear swag on HBCUs. I've been to the
one hundred and seven. I've been to sixty of them.

Speaker 2 (01:15:13):
Deal it Tennessee State. See this is for the.

Speaker 1 (01:15:21):
Same all administration and board Booish State. Since y'all think
I'm joking, Clapling, I love my HBCU. Let's see here
Lincoln University of Pennsylvania, Alabama A and m.

Speaker 2 (01:15:49):
Let's see here again Claflin.

Speaker 1 (01:15:53):
That's a nice Clafland with the C right there. What
we got here, North Carolina? Since somebody, actually, some one
of my fans actually made this for me.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
It's an HPCU track jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:16:10):
And you see they got Virginia State, Virginia Union, Alabama State,
Copper State FAMU for Memorial Spelman. They got all of
these HBCUs on this jacket right here.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Oh, I ain't done. Y'all think I'm done. I ain't done.
See Howard shut up. One of the folk in the
control room, Howard's students, she always out I ah, she
loud as one in there.

Speaker 1 (01:16:34):
Okay, Grammar gave me a track Grammar gave me a
track suit right here, I got depends in here somewhere.
Let's see who we got right here? Who's this fam you?
Who we got right here? Oh, Virginia State gave me
this uh sweater jacket appreciate that I did the commencement.

Speaker 2 (01:17:00):
H Let's see who we got here?

Speaker 1 (01:17:04):
Virginia Union. Another Grambling shirt? Who's a rugby shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:17:16):
Is this? Laane College, North Carolina A and T. Who
we got here? North Carolina A and T.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
University District of Columbia Law School, Gramblin polo shirt?

Speaker 2 (01:17:43):
Who we got here?

Speaker 1 (01:17:46):
Another Claplin? Let's see here another Grambley? But I ain't
done see see because see I need I need the
Saint aug board and his president to understand that we
ain't playing games over here, that we ain't joking around

(01:18:07):
when we.

Speaker 2 (01:18:07):
Talk about how we support HBCUs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:11):
But what we don't support is when folks don't want
to sit here and give us proper answers to what's
going on, and when other people are also asking lots
of questions. Let me see more house. Oh yeah, this

(01:18:36):
wasn't planning, but I'm gonna do it. But throwne Cookman.
That's somebody else.

Speaker 2 (01:18:45):
Ford Valley State.

Speaker 1 (01:18:46):
See, folks, send me hoodies and T shirts I can
wear in the winter and the summer.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Who we got here? Alabama?

Speaker 1 (01:18:54):
Stak Harry Stowe, Calm down, Southern here, y'all go southern jaguars.

Speaker 2 (01:19:05):
Let's see who is this Fort Valley State? See, I
got some other people.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Oh, we did the show at Edward Waters University. Look
at all this is about to fall at the Edward
Waters University. And so they gave me all sorts of swags.
So I got Edward Waters University, another Edward Waters, another
Edward Waters, Norfolk State, and then the Saint Ogg shirt

(01:19:35):
that we got we were there Friday. I know I
got a Clark Atlanta sweater. I don't know where it is.
And I might have some other swag in there. That's
what we got. So I need Hampton ain't give me
no Hampton gear. I spoke at Hampton two or three times. Say,
I told y'all I've been to HBCUs. If they ain't

(01:19:56):
give me no swag, I ain't got no swag. So
Hampton y'all might want to correct that. University Virginia Lisburg.
Y'all need to send me something too. Uh but uh,
let's see here, I know there I got some Texas
Southern round here. Texas Southern, y'all ain't sent me nothing.
I'm from Houston. Y'all should be ashamed of y'all selves.
Prayer view you too. Y'all want me to wear the

(01:20:18):
stuff on the show. That's what we're gonna do. Uh,
but let's see. Oh, I don't have I didn't bring it.
I know I got it somewhere. I think still at home.
Wilberforce Central State. Y'all ain't sent me. I suppoke, did
y'all commencement? Y'all need to send me something too.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
Uh, Morgan State. I think I got something from y'all,
but I spoke to But why am I saying all this?

Speaker 15 (01:20:39):
Y'all?

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
Can't nobody ever say that this show does not support
hbc US.

Speaker 1 (01:20:47):
Can't nobody ever say that we don't elevate HBCUs.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
We have HBCU.

Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
Professors on here, law school professors on here, people in
all kinds of different areas, and so we do this here.
Somebody said, Barbara Scotia, I ain't even been to Barbara Scotia,
our con State, our corn State. Y'all ain't send me
no gear. I've been to y'all campus, but y'all did
send me in the gear. All y'all are all y'all

(01:21:16):
in YouTube talking about where your school. If y'all, if
some of y'all don't see your school. Somebody, y'all, I
showed Jackson State sweatshirt. Uh so uh Savannah State. I
don't think Savannah State. Y'all ain't sent no swag. Okay,
uh let's see here for the rest of y'all. But
I'm saying this because I'm tired of these people like

(01:21:37):
the Saint Aug's board or trustees and the president administration,
who are running scared. If you're doing what's right, then
you ain't scared to answer any questions.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
If you're doing what's right, I'll be right back.

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Speaker 16 (01:23:05):
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Speaker 2 (01:23:47):
He's all about retribution.

Speaker 1 (01:23:48):
He's now targeting New York at Trainity General letitician James.
She's facing a federal criminal referral. Federal Housing Finance Agency
is accusing her of mortgage fraud. They claim she misrepresented
her residency to US to get favorable terms and loans
for a property in Norfolk, Virginia, all while still serving
as New York's top law enforcement official. The FAFA says
James called that Virginia property her primary residents, but as

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New York's Attorney General, she's required to live in the
state she represents.

Speaker 2 (01:24:14):
Charge's been filed and James.

Speaker 1 (01:24:16):
The f office says this is nothing more than the
political retaliation, calling it a weaponization of the federal government
and vowing not to be intimidated what they describe as bullies.
This comes a day after Donald Trump called James a
wacky crook and demanded her resignation. She was the one
who successfully prosecuted Donald Trump in his company for inflating property.

Speaker 2 (01:24:34):
Values to get better deals from banks and insurres.

Speaker 1 (01:24:37):
That trial ended with a massive penalty and helped shape
public perception around financial accountability, especially for the powerful James.
Fokesperson says she's focused on protecting New Yorkers and will
not be distracted by political games from the twice impeached,
criminally convicted con man Donald Trump. Folks in Memphis residents

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there are complaining bitterly of about Elon Musk and what
is going on with his particular.

Speaker 2 (01:25:06):
Firm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:06):
We're gonna in the moment when to be talking with
Representing Justin Pearson about that this whole AI. First of all,
this was happening in southwest Memphis. Okay, this black community,
their faith on the front lines of a growing environmental fight.

Speaker 2 (01:25:20):
Uh and his AI company x Ai.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Uh, they are the ones who, of course he built
to take on Open AI and chat GPT. People in
Memphis are seriously worried about air quality, asthma and survival.
And so we know we've seen these environmental issues all around,
and we don't excuse me what Elon Musk has been
doing with Donald Trump's approval. What they've been doing is
targeting their critics. You see how he's been going after

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every federal agency where there has been an investigation of him.
So we're gonna talk to Represented Pearson in just a second.
But here's the thing that I'm laughing about, Okay, about
these fools. And I saw this tweet from a country
singer John Rich and he is an absolute maga suck up.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
I mean an absolute maga suck up.

Speaker 16 (01:26:11):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:26:11):
And he posted on his Twitter feed about uh paying
taxes and UH, let me just show y'all what this
food had to say. He tweets, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:28):
Always been stomach churning, but after learning all that Doge
has found paying my give me a second. H It's
always been stomach churning, But after learning all that Doge
has found paying my taxes this year.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Has brought on a whole new level of nausea.

Speaker 1 (01:26:48):
He's a moron, you know why, because all Doge keeps
doing is backtracking on what they claim they found.

Speaker 12 (01:26:57):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
Now, remember they said we're gonna find two trillsllion dollars
in savings. Then it's we're gonna find one billion dollars
in savings.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
Then they said we're gonna find five hundred billion dollars
in savings. Then they said we found one hundred and
fifty billion in savings. Well check this out.

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
This is the Doge went weeks without updating its web page,
then just after midnight on Tuesday, it removed nearly a
billion dollars worth of previously claimed savings. Right here, it
says the website is filled with errors, include typos and
references to multiple state mental health facilities as mental health
retardation centers. They claimed savings for hundreds of individual cuts

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also fluctuated from update to update.

Speaker 2 (01:27:40):
These they line day line Bolitical says, they line. I mean,
it's just keep the number, just keep changing. They liing, what's.

Speaker 19 (01:27:54):
The evidence, said, where's the damn evidence?

Speaker 18 (01:27:59):
New York Times wrote a great piece about it, and
I mean to debunk everything.

Speaker 19 (01:28:03):
Where's the evidence?

Speaker 18 (01:28:03):
Like you said, every time they put something up, they
got to take it down because they get called out
on their lives.

Speaker 15 (01:28:09):
There's no proof.

Speaker 18 (01:28:10):
The only people that's getting rich out of this damn
scheme is Elon Musk and Trump and his corporation buddies.
Those are the only people who's making money. Everybody else
we're losing. The American people are losing. They're taking food
away from poor people.

Speaker 16 (01:28:28):
We are losing.

Speaker 19 (01:28:29):
Social Security is damn They're gonna be gone.

Speaker 18 (01:28:33):
Who's winning, not us, They're winning and they have no
damn evidence. So what the hell are they talking about?
I mean, you know what here, Look, I'm.

Speaker 19 (01:28:45):
Glad, I'm from the hood. I'm glad I was born
and raised in the hood.

Speaker 18 (01:28:49):
You know why, because I know a con man when
I see one, and these damn people are allowed for
this man to con the hell out of them. They
are worse than damn thugs. And I'm glad that it
ain't me, but they are getting can like a.

Speaker 19 (01:29:06):
Motherfucker, and it's it's you can't.

Speaker 18 (01:29:10):
I'm mad because it's people who actually didn't vote for
him and voted for the.

Speaker 19 (01:29:13):
Black woman that has to suffer. They have to suffer. Yep,
that's the whole fuck up part about the fucking around
and find it out.

Speaker 15 (01:29:23):
Joy.

Speaker 5 (01:29:26):
I love you political sys. You say all the things
that I can't say.

Speaker 2 (01:29:29):
I love it. I love it you said you just
don't want to say.

Speaker 5 (01:29:33):
Well, I can't say it, but I'm in my mom's house.

Speaker 19 (01:29:35):
I'll hear about it. But otis.

Speaker 2 (01:29:39):
You're right.

Speaker 15 (01:29:40):
No.

Speaker 14 (01:29:40):
Look, here's the thing. Doges has cost at people more
than it saved. If you are working for them, you'll
be quickly removing it from your resume. Eli Musk is
slowly being ushered out of the federal government because people
within the White House itself are Paul what he's doing there,

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humiliating him.

Speaker 5 (01:30:02):
These are not people who are credible workers.

Speaker 14 (01:30:06):
All the typos and the mistakes and the having to
do revisions, etc. Going into agencies and not even really
understanding what those agencies are doing, being met with conflicts
from even the tents of the agencies, right who are
Donald Trump appointees who are like, no, you don't know
what you're doing here.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
This has been a colossal failure.

Speaker 14 (01:30:27):
All it served to do is to threaten agencies that
have had concerns with Elon Musk.

Speaker 5 (01:30:33):
That's going to continue to happen. That is what is
happening in this administration.

Speaker 14 (01:30:37):
They're weaponizing government, your taxpayer dollars, and using it as
an arm to pursue their political ends not yours, and
in the billionaires, political and legal ends not yours.

Speaker 5 (01:30:52):
That's what's happening here.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
We all know it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:55):
Frankly, we are getting taken advantage of as well, that's right.

Speaker 14 (01:30:59):
But it's these white folks. They don't even understand so
many of our government programs they are reliant on. And
I think it's been a mistake for us to always
talk about people of color and how we are benefited.
Perhaps numerica disproportionately we are benefited, but numerically they are
the ones getting the vast majority of these benefits because

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they're the vast majority of people in the country. So
it's them, It's their neighbors, it's their relatives who are
going to suffer in.

Speaker 5 (01:31:29):
Rural America and urban America.

Speaker 14 (01:31:31):
Is their mother who's gonna have her delayed Social Security check,
who's gonna be standing in lines when their regional office closes.

Speaker 5 (01:31:41):
It's not just us. We got to stop creating that narrative.

Speaker 2 (01:31:44):
Oh yeah, it's gonna be them.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
And you know, listen, I just need people to realize
what's going on, Zach in the bound line. Is this here,
these thugs, these crooks, it's all about the rich. They
do not care about record ordinary people, and they damn
sure don't care about black people.

Speaker 17 (01:32:04):
Across the board, every single group in this country has
suffered during the first three months of the Trump administration
that we're not at the end of the first three months.
We saw ten trillion dollars wiped out of the American
economy and O for one case, diminished in some cases
depleted based on what Trump did starting on April the

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third of these tariffs, and it's only gotten worse.

Speaker 16 (01:32:27):
It's only gotten worse.

Speaker 17 (01:32:28):
I think five hundred million they're saying has been brought
in for a ten trillion that has gone out of
the door. And so when you're looking at those and
all of their unethical actions highly probably very likely illegal actions,
people have lost jobs, People are losing and that's what
we know of.

Speaker 16 (01:32:43):
This is what we know has been lost.

Speaker 17 (01:32:45):
American process and procedures that we've never questioned have been
slowed down, in some cases halted, all for the purpose
of they said, saving money, but really for having their
hands in the government to make it any effective and inefficient,
to then be able to cause a massive distraction where
we look at what Elon is doing instead of the
president has caused it all, Donald Trump, I want to

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share your viewers and emphasize everyone out there, we cannot
take our eyes off of the man who has enabled
this and who has the power to make it all happen.
All of this is the fault of Donald Trump, our president,
and the Republican Party. We can't forget that in twenty
twenty six, we can't forget that in twenty twenty eight,
and we have to continue to repeat that over and
over so that the manic people understand that Elon Musk

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has no power, does has no power. All the power
they exercise was given to them by Donald Trump. And
Republicans in Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:33:35):
Oh, absolutely join us right now, is representing Justin Pearson,
glad to have you back on the show. Just take
us through what the hell is going on down there
in Memphis with Elon Musk in these gas turbines polluting
the community.

Speaker 28 (01:33:51):
Listen, we have Elon Musk, the richest man in the world,
misusing and abusing his authority, has power and his resources
to pollute our air.

Speaker 8 (01:33:59):
Memphis, Shoby Cat has some of the worst air quality
in the country.

Speaker 28 (01:34:02):
We are an asthma capital in the United States of America,
cancer risk of four point one times the national average,
and over seventeen toxic release inventory facilities already and now
he's trying to build the world's largest supercomputer in Southwest
Memphis is already operating, and they are now applying for
a permit and there's a public here on April twenty fifth,
But they're applying for a permit to pollute our air indefinitely,

(01:34:24):
an im perpetuity. But they only applied for fifteen and
now we know from work done by the Southern Environmental
Law Center that they have thirty five gas turbines.

Speaker 8 (01:34:33):
The Health Department, Chevy County Health Department, hasn't been there.

Speaker 28 (01:34:36):
One time to visit, hasn't seen it, has not notified
the public of what's going on there. And they came
into our community on the cotails of the Chamber of Commerce,
on the hotels of Mayor Paul Young, Mayrily Harris, the
Chevy County Health Director, and so many other elected officials
who were so excited that Elon Musk was coming to
the city that they never thought about the ramifications for

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the people who live there.

Speaker 8 (01:34:57):
This plant is actually being built in my community, in
my neighborhood in.

Speaker 28 (01:35:01):
Three eight one oh nine, where I went to high school,
where my grandmother's got risked their souls died from cancer,
and where my fiance and I have just bought our
first home.

Speaker 8 (01:35:09):
And so it's really personal this fight.

Speaker 28 (01:35:10):
But he's using his money to manipulate people, particularly African
American leadership, into hurting and harming our community.

Speaker 2 (01:35:18):
How is it there have been no inspections?

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
I take it you've been in conversation with the Mayor's
office or the city government.

Speaker 2 (01:35:25):
What are they saying?

Speaker 15 (01:35:27):
Right?

Speaker 28 (01:35:27):
So, the Shelby County Health Director, Michelle Taylor, who works
for Lee Harris, has said they are not allowed to
require a permit from them until after a year because
of an exception within the Clean Air Act. The only
problem rolling that Mayor Lee Harris and Cholby County Health
Director doctor Michelle Taylor know because the Southern Environmental Law
Center on several.

Speaker 8 (01:35:47):
Occasions, along with Memphis Community Against Pollution.

Speaker 28 (01:35:50):
Young Gifted and Green protect Our Awquafer Sierra Club of
Tennessee have told them is that the types of turbines
these folks are using do not fit within that exception.

Speaker 8 (01:35:59):
They have the power do something.

Speaker 28 (01:36:00):
They made a mistake in not regulating them on day one,
and now they're just deciding to continue to.

Speaker 8 (01:36:05):
Go along with what's going on, even though they know better.

Speaker 28 (01:36:08):
And that's what's really challenging, because our lives, our lungs,
our air quality is being sacrificed for the benefit of
this polluter, who with thirty five turbines, could be the
largest polluter of nitrogen oxide, even more than the Memphis
International Airport. And so we're seeing that being concerning as
well as another environmental concern is formaldehyde. With thirty five turbines,

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they could actually be putting into the air sixteen point
seven tons or from maldehide a cancer causing carcinogen. This
is happening again in southwest Memphis to a black community
and majority of black community once more because they think,
as doctor Vestapha Santiago Ali has talked about a lot,
that we're sacrificed though, that our lives are lungs, don't
matter because the profits of this richest man.

Speaker 8 (01:36:50):
In the world are more important than the people.

Speaker 28 (01:36:52):
And we're being told, well, the thirty million dollars fifteen
million roughly fifteen million to the county in taxes is
worth our lives.

Speaker 2 (01:37:02):
So whose job is to check and do they care
or is it all about the money?

Speaker 15 (01:37:08):
Right?

Speaker 28 (01:37:08):
I think it's a lax of Daysico callis attitude toward
people who have been suffering for a long time. You
don't get to the point where a company can come
into our city without anyone, without many of us who
are elected even knowing about it, because the mayors the
public utility sign non disclosure agreements preventing them from actually

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talking about this project. We just learned this past week
from some reporting that not only did they sign nondisclosure agreements,
not only did Elon Musk and his company just pop
up on the scene and tell us they were in
our community and start.

Speaker 8 (01:37:41):
Polluting our community without permission, without permits.

Speaker 28 (01:37:44):
But they wanted to tout, well, we're not getting any
public dollars, we're not getting any payments in lieu of
taxes and things like that. But new reporting has shown
they were actually given help by our assessor to not
pay taxes.

Speaker 8 (01:37:58):
So it's twelve billion dollars worth equipment.

Speaker 28 (01:38:00):
The assessor taught them how to scheme the system so
that they would only pay taxes on two billion dollars
of that, and even of that, it's a fraction of
what they're actually supposed to be paying.

Speaker 8 (01:38:10):
Money is the guiding principle, but it's not money that.

Speaker 28 (01:38:12):
Is going to be to the benefit of the people
in Memphis and Shelby County, because the consequence of not
having air, which is a human clean air, which is
a human right, is immoral, unjust, it's so wrong. And
so yeah, it's the money, but it's not about money
for us, it's about money for him. And people's political
talking point that you know, they helped to make this happen,
but they did not and have not considered the people,

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and that's my problem. And Choby County Health Director Michelle
Taylor's responsible for that. Shelby County Mayor ly Harris is
responsible for that, as well as other elected officials. But
right now we need to deny this permit. Right now,
we need the Health the Director to go to Xai,
to this plant to see what they are doing, to
see what pollutants are being put into the air, and
to do something. They have the responsibility. Now I can't

(01:38:55):
stop him from coming. That was Mayor Young's job, that
was the Chamber of Commerce's job. But we literally have
been sacrificed on the altar of this capitalistic exploitaship system
just to have a data center take our water, pollute
our air, and hurt our communities, just for the pride
of some people without thinking about us at all.

Speaker 1 (01:39:15):
And this is the thing I'm always trying to explain
to people because listen, I covered city government, I covered
county government, and it's always jobs, jobs, jobs, economic, economic, economic.
But you kind of got to give a damn about
the health and the air and the water and the
quality of life or the people there, because that job
doesn't mean jack if it shortens your life. Donald Trump

(01:39:37):
and his thugs, they have canceled the lawsuit in the
Louisiana against the petro chemical companies. It's in the cancer
Alley killing black people. They just declared it was the
legal Dei settlement in Lowndes County, Alabama, where raw sewage
was backing up into the homes in the front in
the backyards of black people who live there. It's big

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going on for decades, and they're shurning that down. So
this is amount of life and death for people will
color us, but especially for black.

Speaker 8 (01:40:07):
People, especially for black people, and also for poor communities.

Speaker 28 (01:40:11):
So I was with Catherine Coleman Flowers and Vice President
Gore the day before yesterday. She was talking about the
fact that the Department of Justice is no longer going
to ensure that people have the protections from having sanitation
and sewage issues that they currently have in Lowes County,
but also all across the Black Belt and all across
the country.

Speaker 8 (01:40:30):
If we do not have the protections of our ara,
we do not have protection of our water.

Speaker 28 (01:40:34):
If we do not have the protection of our soil,
our human rights as well as our civil rights are
what is being destroyed. And that's what we're seeing happen,
particularly when city governments, county governments health departments are having
a lasadaisical attitude towards the people they are supposed to serve. Look,
I don't expect Donald Trump to like me. Elon must
to like me. I don't like them either. I don't

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even expect them to follow the Constitution or the democratic
constitutional republics expeeriment right like.

Speaker 8 (01:41:00):
They don't care about it.

Speaker 28 (01:41:01):
They care more about being and operating as authoritarians in
a dictatorial way, supporting this technocracy. They got their own agenda.
But the people who we elect most directly, the people
who live in the communities and the counties where we serve,
have a responsibility to do all that they can to
protect us using the laws and regulations that are in place.
I can't stop Donald and Elon from doing what they're

(01:41:23):
going to do, but we have a responsibility of making
sure our mayors, our city councilors, are county commissioners are
being bought out, are being sold sold out to these
corporations and to these billionaires and these millionaires who are
puppeting them around and giving them their talking points, instead
of those folks being true to what they said they
were going to do when they ran for office, which
was listen to the people, talk to the people, fight

(01:41:45):
for the people, who work for the people, and that's
not what's happening. These data centers are just finding communities
that they can easily exploit, and they're treating us like
we're some extractive colony of this country, some extractive colony
of our communities. And that definitely happens in Cancer Alley
Saint James, and I know a lot of good organizers
there were connected.

Speaker 8 (01:42:05):
They're fighting for their lives, and that's what people have
to realize.

Speaker 28 (01:42:08):
That's why I am naming names, That's why I'm saying
all these things, because we have to realize there is
a fierce urgency to protect the lives of people in
black communities, impoor communities, in rural communities all across this
country that are suffering because folks are wanting to take
selfies and pictures with these billionaires and not listening to
and looking at the consequences of asthma and children who

(01:42:29):
are missing school, COPD, cancer and the fact that it
literally is taking years off of people's lives.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Questions Joy you first, Well, first of.

Speaker 14 (01:42:41):
All, my condolences to you on the loss of your brother,
and congratulations to you for the way that you stood
up for your family and the constituents you serve. You
are an example of why we need folks working and
running at the local level.

Speaker 5 (01:42:55):
So thank God for you.

Speaker 19 (01:42:56):
So a couple of things.

Speaker 14 (01:42:58):
One can you just talk about, like the fact that
you're not saying you don't want jobs, you just want safety.

Speaker 5 (01:43:06):
You don't want people to die in the process of
getting them.

Speaker 14 (01:43:09):
Can you just speak to a little timit to that,
Because there's someone out there who's listening who thinks democrats
or progressives or environmentalists.

Speaker 5 (01:43:18):
Even you are trying to stand in the way of
American jobs.

Speaker 16 (01:43:22):
We're not trying to do that.

Speaker 5 (01:43:23):
What we're trying to say is you can have jobs,
you can have safety as well.

Speaker 16 (01:43:26):
Do you just talk a little bit to that.

Speaker 28 (01:43:28):
Absolutely, the idea that there is some dichotomy between having
economic justice and having environmental justice is wrong. The fact
of the matter is the jobs that companies like Xai
and Elon Musk are bringing into communities are jobs for
people in the community. We may be the security, we
may be in the patrol car, but the engineers and

(01:43:48):
folks that they are hiring are typically people who are
outside of the state, who may be imported in or
be working remotely. These aren't jobs as you might imagine
in an era Goo and Buy where a thousand, two
thousand and three thousand people being employed. It's six hundred
thousand people in our city. And they say, at most
this company is going to have two hundred employees. So
it isn't increasing the wages of folks. It's not addressing
any economic inequality and injustices that we're seeing. But we

(01:44:12):
are seeing an increasing the amount of nitrogen oxide, we
are seeing an increasing the amount of pollution. We are
seeing environmental racism and environmental injustice plaguing us once more.

Speaker 8 (01:44:23):
And it's not real.

Speaker 16 (01:44:24):
What do yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:44:25):
I mean?

Speaker 14 (01:44:26):
So that is also for our mayors and other people
when you're assessing these deals, the question is how many
jobs are going to be in your community, brick and
mortar jobs that you all are going to get, even
if they're virtual jobs, but they're in your community, feeding
back into your tax base and not taking you away
with all the money you're going to have to spend
cleaning up the mess that they've made.

Speaker 5 (01:44:46):
So you're so so so right, And if you are
a mayor out there, these.

Speaker 14 (01:44:50):
Are the things if you need more sophisticated folks to
help you make an assessment of whether this is a
good deal for you in the long term.

Speaker 5 (01:44:57):
Then you need to ask for it. All that glitters
is gold.

Speaker 14 (01:45:01):
And if Elon must have come into your community, got
be clet he does not care about America or American
I got it.

Speaker 2 (01:45:08):
Political says I got to get this question. Plical says Hi.

Speaker 19 (01:45:12):
Justin nice to meet you.

Speaker 18 (01:45:14):
Thank you for giving us a great example of what
environmental racism is. This is why so important for people
we try to get people to vote, especially our folks
when it comes to these companies, they pollutant, they go
all into black communities.

Speaker 19 (01:45:28):
It's so many studies out there that shows that we
are impacting the most by this.

Speaker 18 (01:45:33):
Can you kind of give me, give me a percentage
and that's all I want to know of the black
folks that's within your community or this community that's being affected.

Speaker 28 (01:45:43):
Yeah, it's about ninety seven percent. So yeah, thank you,
thank you for all that you do. Thank you so
much again to your points. A textbook case of environmental racism.
But environmental racism doesn't get to the place that it
is without a perpetuation of harms that have been okayed
over there. It's no surprise that the same places that
are red lined are the same with the red line

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are the same places that have the industrial parks and
the industrial plants.

Speaker 8 (01:46:09):
It's no coincident that these are.

Speaker 28 (01:46:10):
The same places that are educationally deprived, politically deprived, environmentally degraded.
We have to have elected leaders and appointed leaders who
listen to the voices of the constituents who are crying
out and don't continue to perpetuate the harm just because
that's the way that things have always been.

Speaker 2 (01:46:25):
Zachary.

Speaker 19 (01:46:26):
I think it's fair.

Speaker 18 (01:46:26):
I think it's also I'm sorry that I think it's
also fair to say.

Speaker 19 (01:46:29):
That we are not going to get anything done.

Speaker 18 (01:46:31):
It's going to get worse before it get better because
of this administration who's trying to do away with the EPA.

Speaker 2 (01:46:37):
Yeah, well, no, that's definitely the case, Zachary.

Speaker 17 (01:46:39):
I know people are going to hopefully go a little
bit deeper and do a little bit more research around
environmental racism, and so just those watching, You've got cancer Alley,
you had the flint water crisis, you had the piece
toxic pc bead landfills in North Carolina, and then you
also have what's happening with the Navajo Indian reservations out
with the uranium mines. I want to ask this a

(01:47:00):
question I have for just shifting a little bit her
and again, the whole entire village is with you, and
his mourns with you with the loss of your brother.
May he rest in paradise and power. This is my
question for you. You many times when you were working
at the state level of government, you look up to
your national leaders for advice and for guidance and for
role models. But I believe that you, sir, are a

(01:47:22):
role model to our national leaders who are serving the
entire nation in regards to how you can be a
part of the minority party, the opposition party, and still
be highly effective.

Speaker 16 (01:47:33):
What advice would you give to our.

Speaker 17 (01:47:37):
National leaders, to Democrats who have been elected to represent
us in Congress of how they could get power, gain authority,
and do the work of true opposition to the Trump
administration Congressional Republicans.

Speaker 28 (01:47:50):
So one, thank you so much for you as kind
of comments by my brother, we miss him every single day.
And look a place that you can get more information
is the nonprofit that I helped to found, and that's
lead and helping the lead this fight. Memphis Community Against
Pollution memphiscap dot org. That's Memphis gap dot org. Submit
your public comments as well, while that's available against Elon
Musk as well, against the Tennessee Valley Authority which is

(01:48:11):
seeking to build six gas combustion turbines in our community
as well. Look to be an effective opposition party, we
have to recognize where we do have power. We have
people power. You can see it through town halls. We
had a town hall expecting one hundred people. We got
over three hundred and fifty people this past Saturday, just
strictly about environmental injustice and about what's happening with Elon Musk,
XAI TVA. There's a lot of energy in this moment

(01:48:33):
in time and the democracy democracy itself right, it's the
consent of the governed.

Speaker 8 (01:48:38):
We have to get the people who are interested in
engagement fighting back.

Speaker 28 (01:48:41):
In the fight alongside us, which is why we're having
some protests this upcoming weeks. Why we're going to be
attend in the public hearing and have hundreds of people
organized to do that. Because while I am a state
legislator right I'm up here in Nashville was just fighting
some bills, fighting for some bills against some bills.

Speaker 8 (01:48:56):
But I also realize I'm a Memphian, I'm a person
who lives.

Speaker 28 (01:48:59):
In Shelby County, and I have a responsibility to use
any influence, any power that I have there as well
to elevate the causes and the concerns of the people
who are being oppressed the most. And for people who
are in Congress. The fight isn't just to fight Donald
Trump just by talking about it. Is to find the
ways that his policies are directly impacting our communities and

(01:49:20):
do what we can at the city council, at the
county commission, at the state level if you are in
a more favorable state for Democrats to resist, and I
think that is where our politics has to become much
more inclusive. And I mean that not just in building
the Movement for Justice rooted a load with blackfoot, white
vot but you know folk Asian Vogue documented, nondocumented, queer,
straight and all that. Not just that, but politically, our

(01:49:42):
state leaders need to be connected with our mayors, need
to be connected with our city councilors, need to be
connected with our county commissioners in a much more intentional way,
because we have to find the places where our power
can be strongest and build from there.

Speaker 2 (01:49:57):
Here soon we appreciate it, man, keep up the good fight.
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 28 (01:50:00):
Hey, we win this thing for the long haul and
we end it together. Love and appreciate y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Indeed appreciate it. Thanks you so very much. All right, folks.
So a celebrity sent me a video last couple of
days asking me, Hey, I really think you are to
have this guy on your show. I think that he

(01:50:24):
You know, we should have different perspectives from the black community,
and this guy, he's always He trashes Democrats, he praises
Donald Trump, he claims he's for black people. And I
was gonna play the video, but I can't even waste.
First of y'all, I'm not playing that because I, first
of all, he lies, And so I sent this celebrity

(01:50:46):
note back said, I don't platform liars.

Speaker 2 (01:50:51):
See when you make a video saying.

Speaker 1 (01:50:55):
I'm a race baterer, and all I do is say
that black Peo people are oppressed and we can't do
anything good, and we can't be entrepreneurs and we can't
be successful.

Speaker 2 (01:51:11):
What am I supposed to do with that lie? That's
a lie. Anybody who has watched this show, we actually
feature black entrepreneurs. We feature black owned businesses. In tech talk,
we feature black owned businesses. And Marketplace, we feature black
folks who are doing and owning things. An Education Matter segment,

(01:51:34):
We got the HBCU Connect segment. I mean, I could
just go down the line all the stuff we do.
We show black doctors and lawyers and generals and economists.
We show black people from all walks of life.

Speaker 1 (01:51:49):
Folk who are Democrat, who are a Republican, who are independent,
who are agnostic politically.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
So right there, I make it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
I'm not gonna platform somebody who's a liar. And see
what I'm not gonna do is put somebody on for
the purpose of getting clicks.

Speaker 2 (01:52:11):
See I was gonna play that person's video, but it
was filled with so many lies. I'm like, you're not
even worth the attention. But I do think it's important
for people to understand.

Speaker 1 (01:52:26):
That you got black folks out here who claim to
love black people, but their real mission is to attack
black people who do not support MAGA. And let me
be real clear, not every black person who's kissing Donald

(01:52:47):
Trump's but it's gonna wear a maga hat. See, there's
some people who operate under the guys of Oh, I
ain't no shield, I ain't no democrat, I ain't what
they ain't done for sixty years.

Speaker 2 (01:53:06):
And I don't support this, and I don't support that,
and I don't support this. Then I went to this person.

Speaker 1 (01:53:12):
They would just paying paper, they were lying about HBCU funding,
they were lying about all sorts of stuff, and I
just made it clear, I ain't gonna I'm not gonna
platform liars, but I just get a kick.

Speaker 2 (01:53:22):
I'm gonna my panel. I just get a kick Zachary
out of folk who claim.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
I mean, I don't know how anybody in their right
mind could say all we talk about on this show
is how black people are oppressed and how we can't
do things in society. When we got black people on
talking about finances, talking about home ownership, talking about venture capital.
When you start lying like that, all that does is

(01:53:49):
tell me you clearly ain't never watched this show.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Roly got hold on, wait, wait, hold on, Joe.

Speaker 17 (01:53:56):
Hold on, Zachary, you just rolled out all sixty four
of our nation's historically black colleges and universities. You Black
Excellence episode after episode. I mean not week after week,
it's day after day.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
But the reason I this is important political syst and
I'm going to your Jeordian. The reason this is important
because I need black people to understand that when they
say there are ops, when they say that there are
people who specifically are designed to tap into discontent and

(01:54:34):
get you to be sucked into their lives, then that's
what they do. This person did a whole video talk
about when Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44):
When Trump was.

Speaker 1 (01:54:45):
Talking about DEEI, he wasn't talking about us. When they
mentioned a plane that crash, they were really talking about
the white woman who was the pilot. And I was like,
oh really, I guess you forgotten skipped over when they
declared that the settlement in Alabama, in Lowndes County was

(01:55:06):
in a legal DEI settlement. I guess they forgot the
lawsuit that they pull out of and cancer all in
Louisiana was a DEI settlement.

Speaker 2 (01:55:17):
This fool is.

Speaker 1 (01:55:17):
Literally lying to his followers about how all when they
said DEI they were talking about white women and trans
they weren't talking about us.

Speaker 2 (01:55:29):
I'm like, yeah, they were.

Speaker 18 (01:55:33):
This is what happens when you got this man balls
in your mouth.

Speaker 19 (01:55:36):
So maybe if you can get Trump's.

Speaker 18 (01:55:37):
Ball out of balls out of his mouth and utilize
his own brain, then then just maybe you can bring
him on the show.

Speaker 19 (01:55:44):
But he needs attention. You're right, don't give it to him.
But I'm petty. I'm petty as hell. He can get
my pettiness. But on another note, you what we.

Speaker 18 (01:55:52):
Do on this show, and what you are so great
at doing, is keeping black folk in form, keeping our
people in form, letting them know what is going on.

Speaker 19 (01:55:59):
Within our community.

Speaker 18 (01:56:01):
Example, justin being up here talking about environmental justice, environment
of racism.

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
That is what we do.

Speaker 18 (01:56:07):
And you have black doctors that come up here that
are I Di's right. They come up here and they
tell us about our health to keep us a farm.
You have financial people come up here and do the
same thing. So yeah, no, just let them continue to
keep trump balls in his mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:56:21):
He'll be all right, Joey.

Speaker 1 (01:56:23):
I just and again, I purposely I tell people. I
tell people, you don't you don't give liars oxygen.

Speaker 5 (01:56:34):
Correct.

Speaker 14 (01:56:36):
Look, you have three panelists who are most often black
on your show every night, who exemplify, if if I
actually think so myself, black excellence and from a range
of backgrounds that we bring and styles that we bring.

(01:56:57):
We're all here, We're all black, We're all excellent.

Speaker 2 (01:57:02):
This show.

Speaker 5 (01:57:04):
We ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 16 (01:57:05):
Damn them.

Speaker 5 (01:57:06):
Look, I had to sneak it in as best I
could do.

Speaker 14 (01:57:09):
Politicals here's the thing, you know, I mean, like you're
so right, and look, this is just a reminder everyone
can't get our attention. Stop retweeting these people, stop sharing
their posts. The only reason to highlight them, and just
as you're doing without using their names, so no one
gives them extra extra lift is is to make fun

(01:57:32):
of them and ignore the Most of them are are
suffering in some way. They have some chip on their shoulder.
And that's not all Black Republicans. I have Black Republicans
in my family. Most of you all do as well.
But maga is different. Maga is different.

Speaker 5 (01:57:49):
We have transcended.

Speaker 14 (01:57:50):
Donald Trump is a parasite on the Republican Party. Okay,
he is a barnacle on America. And so you know
this isn't about Republican democrat. This is about a new
cult that he has created and those people have been
swept up in it. Black people can be as susceptible
for all the reasons others are as well to cult

(01:58:13):
like activity, and that's what's happening here.

Speaker 5 (01:58:15):
I wish him the best. I wish him the mental
health Democrats all that Donald trumpet it.

Speaker 17 (01:58:21):
I don't, I don't.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
I just sit here and again, Beddy just laugh at
these little folks who just I love the little folks run,
they mouths and they always got something to say. But
if you're gonna sit here and post stuff on social
don't lie, because see the moment you lie, you just

(01:58:47):
made it easy for me to invalidate anything that you say.

Speaker 2 (01:58:52):
If you're gonna lie, that easy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:56):
Just saying, all right, joy Zachary political sists. I appreciate
you'll on today's show.

Speaker 18 (01:59:02):
Please let let I'm so sorry, but please tell Pastor
he just hes gonna have to go on and suit
because he ain't getting that money back at gonna spend
that money.

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Trust me, trust me, uh st No gonna we're gonna.
Let's just say, I don't just go away easily.

Speaker 15 (01:59:24):
No, don't go way.

Speaker 18 (01:59:25):
You could have told when you coming to Saint I too.

Speaker 19 (01:59:27):
You could have told me that.

Speaker 2 (01:59:28):
What came through we said it on the show.

Speaker 19 (01:59:32):
For two weeks I had death in the family, so
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (01:59:36):
Oh okay, but I mean but we also put it
on social too, and we I mean we kind of.
I mean, I ain't seeing no personal texts.

Speaker 19 (01:59:44):
I'm so sorry. I ain't see it.

Speaker 1 (01:59:46):
Okay, got you were trying, but we're trying to call
nobody out. Act like we ain't talk about it on
the show. Oh and I did make a mistake people
hitting me up.

Speaker 11 (01:59:55):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
And I didn't realize I had a second bag of stuff.
So U we just thought, let me go, we're gonna
we're gonna have to edit edited together.

Speaker 15 (02:00:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:04):
And so here was some more North Here was some
more North Carolina an t swag. Here was another Grambling swag.

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
Uh. Let's see let's see here. This is a Wilberforce.
This is a Wilberforce polo right here.

Speaker 19 (02:00:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:21):
This these were the pants that gramb the tracksuit.

Speaker 12 (02:00:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:24):
This was a Clark Atlanta sweater. Uh. They hooked me
up with Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:31):
Uh that's way man, hold up, that's that's Canisius ain't black.
But I did speak at Canicius. I appreciate you, y'all
invite me.

Speaker 22 (02:00:37):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:00:37):
This was a really nice Gramblings sweater.

Speaker 15 (02:00:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
Let's see here. This was another Whose band is this?
This was another more House band? Uh, Southern hooked.

Speaker 2 (02:00:48):
Me up with this here. Uh, this was the more
House sweatshirt. Very nice, very nice. Let's see here. Who
is this here? Uh? This is a Wilberforce wet a shirt.
So that was nice. I swore I had a Morgan State.
I guess I don't Arkansas Pine Bluff. They band sent
me this. Appreciate that this was a Clark Atlanta polo.

(02:01:13):
Right here, this mile gonna fall over, fold over and
follow over in the second. We got Florida A and
m right here? What we got right here? Who is
this marching musical machine of the mid South? As you
got them up b right here? Okay, clothes don't follow over?
I got y'all. Let's see here. Who is this? Who

(02:01:36):
is this?

Speaker 15 (02:01:37):
Now?

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
That was the school I visited. They wasn't HBCU. Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:01:43):
Savannah State did send me a shirt, so I'm gonna
take them off Instagram.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
They did send me a shirt. Let's see this. I
think this is Howard So I got a Howard's shirt.

Speaker 1 (02:01:53):
Calm yass down. This was Savannah State hat. I didn't
get a bunch of hats. Xavier Xavier gave me a hat.
Zavy did not get me a shirt. So say, y'all,
I'm gonna leave y'all on the list. Well, they did
give me a mask during COVID, so that'll work. So anyway,
so all the people out there, and I think I
just counted and it was actually I double checked, so
it was fifty seven of one hundred and seven HBCUs

(02:02:18):
that have actually visited some I've been to multiple times.

Speaker 2 (02:02:23):
Alburney State. I don't believe I went there. I don't believe.
But anyway, that's it, y'all. We're gonna keep doing what
we do.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
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we're busy working and while they claim they stand up
for black people, we're actually doing it while all they
do is just bump their gums. So simple simons, y'all
can keep hating. We just we just we just gonna
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