Trump Targets Fed Gov Lisa Cook, #47 Lies Backfire, Nat’l Guard Threats, JohnTom's BBQ

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, folks, Today's Tuesday, August twenty six, twenty twenty five,
coming up on rolland Unpunched, streaming live on the Black
Star Network. Oh my goodness, Donald Trump, he's targeting another
black woman, this time doctor Lisa Cook, the first black
woman to serve on the Federal Reserve Board. He says
he is firing her. She says, Noblia, you don't have

(00:24):
the authority to do so. We'll break this whole saga down.
The latest attack on Black America. Also, the thug in
Chief again for the second consecutive day, talks about being
a dictator. I need y'all to stop playing games. He's
not saying this stuff just because. Also, Donald Trump is

(00:46):
busted lying about Governor Wes Moore. I told y'all this
man will lie about a live He wants to send
National Guard to Chicago. Well, Catholic priest Michael Flaker has
tough word for him. He will join us on today's
show to talk about this decision of plus. In tonight's Marketplace,

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Speaker 1 (02:17):
Well folks or twice impeached, criminally convicted. Fella in Chief
Donald the Kahn Trump is attacking another black woman. We've
made it clear this man does not black black people,
especially black women. His latest target is doctor Lisa Cook,
even allegations from one of Trump's housing appointees that Lisa

(02:37):
Cook somehow committed mortgage fraud. It's the allegation. Has she
been indicted, No? Has she been tried no? Has she
been convicted No? But it doesn't matter to the thug
in chief. He wants her fired. Last night, Trump sends
a termination letter to her, saying she was removed from

(02:59):
her position for cause, citing allegations of mortgage fraud. Letter
was dated in August fifteenth. The Justice Department indicated that
plans to investigate these claims. But here's the problem. He
doesn't have the legal authority. Cook said so in her
statement firing back at this idiot, President Trump purported to

(03:22):
fire me for cause with no casts exists under the law,
and he has no authority to do so. I will
not resign. I will continue to carry out my duties
to help the American economy, as I have been doing
since two thousand and twenty two. Morgan Harper's the director
of policy and advocacy at the American Economic Liberties Project.
Also joining us is Ronda Fox, founder of Persist. Soly

(03:46):
glad to have both of you here. I'll start with you, Morgan.
Bottom line is this here, doctor Lisa Cook, first African
American to serve, first African American, a woman to serve
on the Federal Reserve, and it's a fourteen year appointment.
She was confirmed by the United States Senate. Trump doesn't
have the authority. But what has happened is he believes

(04:10):
that he can do whatever he wants. I'm going to
play a clip later where he literally says I can
do whatever I want as President of the United States.
The Supreme Court has expanded the powers of the office
of the President. And this is why this idiot is
doing this, because this is his continual attack on the
Federal Reserve, which he wants to run even though it

(04:32):
is independent or supposed to be independent of politics.

Speaker 8 (04:38):
Absolutely, and I completely agree with you, Roland. I mean,
there's no accident in the terms of the people he's
choosing to target Lisa Cook Tiss James with these really
bogus allegations of mortgage fraud, criminal activity.

Speaker 5 (04:53):
It's just it's nonsense.

Speaker 8 (04:56):
But the fact that they are both black women that
stand in the way of his authoritarian march to control
the entire federal government is a problem for him.

Speaker 5 (05:05):
And what's the risk here the Federal Reserve.

Speaker 8 (05:07):
It is independent, pursuant to the law in Congress through
the Federal Reserve back, like you pointed out, and we
also heard from Governor Cook herself, the only way that
you can get rid of her is for cause.

Speaker 5 (05:19):
What does that mean? It means that there's been.

Speaker 8 (05:21):
Some professional malfeasance is I think the actual term meaning
like something in the course of your job you did
that was wrong, that ran counter to your obligations in
that position, and that's nothing that is being discussed here.
What is happening in the federal government, and speaking of

(05:42):
laws that are being broken, is a lot of big
corporations that have donated big money to Donald Trump are
seeing lawsuits against them by the Department of Justice, by
the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau just disappear or be settled
for nothing. So it's clearly not a priority of this

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administration to go after actual breaking of the law. And
when we look at this type of political agenda applied
to an agency like the Federal Reserve, which is charged
with really maintaining the financial stability of the country. It's
not to say it's a perfect institution means, but their
charge is financial stability. It's looking out at the labor
market movement there. It's controlling interest rates, a controlling monetary supply,

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it's controlling our role in a very interconnected global economy.
At this point, the risk from this type of political
activity is that we see real economic damage and harm
done to us as people living in this country, small
business owners, and ultimately are standing internationally.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
Rona, you dropped a letter on social media. You said
that down trump justification on substantiated accusations of more good fraud.
But let's be clear that this isn't about mortgages. It's
a blatant attack on the federal reserve. Now here's the deal, guys.
Pulled the clip up because earlier today, in that ridiculous

(07:12):
cabinet meeting where it really was who can outdo one another?
Kissing Donald Trump's as this issue of this mortgage fraud
came up and Donald Trump lied, He literally says in
this we're about to play that, oh people's mortgages, that's
public information. Roll it, guys, we don't have I get

(07:35):
the clip, guys, because I want to play this because
because it gives a perfect example of what I'm talking
about here, Rhonda, where this liar, he sits before the
public and he lies, knowing full well that is personal
data and his own housing. Guy Pulti, who has been
going after Jerome Powell, he's the one who throughout this allegation. Yeah,

(08:04):
run to go ahead, Okay.

Speaker 9 (08:06):
So I'm glad that you hit on Bill Paulty. I
think when we look at this whole situation, and this
did not begin with Lisa Cook. This is a playbook
of attacking black women that began before Fannie Willis, but
we really started seeing it with Fannie Willis. We popped
over to La with Karen Bass, we're seeing ag James. Obviously,
Kamala Harris has always been a victim of it, but

(08:26):
now with Lisa Cook and the real villain behind a
lot of this is Bill Paulty, someone that a lot
of people do not know about. They don't know about
the agency that he has oversight of, but he is
literally using the Federal Housing Finance Agency to go after
individual citizens. That's not what that agency is for. That

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agency exists to look at Freddie Mack other housing institutions,
all the way back from two thousand and eight when
that institution was created. So there's a couple of things
that are really troubling. One, this playbook is being written
on the backs of black women.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
We know that one.

Speaker 9 (09:01):
Attacking black women, attacking women, it energizes the MAGA base.

Speaker 7 (09:05):
But what it also does.

Speaker 9 (09:06):
For Democrats is it mifurcates our coalition. We say race
shouldn't matter, race should matter. We spend time focusing on
all of that because we have our own internal biases
that we need to control. We're not going to step
out and support and defend black women, let alone Roll
And you know this better than anyone six million Democrats
set out in twenty twenty four because they didn't want

(09:27):
to support a black woman. So by really doing this
playbook on the back of black women, he energizes his base,
distracts our coalition, and he's able to put into place
an authoritarian regime. And so we're just getting started. But
this guy Bill is literally weaponizing an agency, using it
to go after individuals on mortgage claims, not even anything substantiated.

(09:52):
When you really look at mortgage fraud, it's very complicated.
It's not oftentimes an intentional mistake tends to be a
paperwork mistake. And so what we're seeing now is absolutely
the worst of the worst. But it's also important to
acknowledge race, because they are literally going to destroy democracy
on the backs of black women. They have written this playbook,

(10:14):
and there is nobody coming to our defense in this moment.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
They are going Morgan, they're going after Letitia James, the
New York State at Torney General, as well as Adam
Schiff and also Lisa Cook and to the point that
she just made what we're dealing with. We are dealing
with thugs who want to exact retribution and revenge and

(10:42):
for all of the whining and complaining about OHI, President
Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris weaponize the government
against against him and Republicans. These people are one hundred
percent weaponizing the government target their critics. Hell he even
saying because Chris Christie criticized him, that he was going

(11:05):
to launch an investigation into Chris Christie. That's what these
thugs are doing.

Speaker 8 (11:12):
Absolutely, and I think that can kind of muddy the
race element of this because I completely agree. I mean,
I think the targeting of folks like Tis Shames, like
Lisa Cook here as black women is to play into
I mean, I completely agree with her play into what
the magabase we know is red meat for much of

(11:33):
the MAGA base. And it also kind of like greases
the wheels for the further takeover that will happen throughout
the government. And it plays into this racial trope that
somehow these women are not capable of managing their finances
and so therefore shouldn't be in these positions of government.
But again, it's it's complete nonsense, it's unsubstantiated. But I

(11:54):
think that we do run the risk with some of
our even folks that maybe are part of our coalition
of trying to get in the weeds of defending what.

Speaker 5 (12:02):
They may or might may not have done with these mortgages.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
And it's like, no, right, Like we should not be
getting into what are the elements of mortgage fraud. Once
we start talking about that, we are missing the larger
point here, which is, yes, this administration is turned into
a criminal enterprise. It only serves to reward those who
are willing to do their bidding through cash, and they

(12:26):
are willing to take down the whole institution of government
with them and make it in whatever outcomes they're looking for.
And so I think that's important because it's not going
to be enough to just point out that there is
a racializing of what's happening here. We have to also
point out the larger project to make sure that our
folks are talking about this in the right way and

(12:49):
not getting pulled into the real back and forth that
they're looking for, which is distracting from the larger game
that they're playing.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Right, But Rona, it's not as either or it's and
it's both. That's what's going on here. They are attacking
their critics regardless, but they particularly want to attack African Americans.
I've said this repeatedly that these thugs, these these maggots,
they want to defund Black America. They want to tear

(13:20):
down every single game that we have seen in the
past sixty years. And that means going after any African
American who is in a high position who is not
chosen to kiss Donald Trump's ass or his ring.

Speaker 9 (13:35):
And here's the thing too, they say, as Democrats, we
shouldn't focus on race. This is not about Lisa Cook's race.
It very much is. And you know what's happening by
attacking the Federal Reserve. Anyone out there, I don't care
where you said, what your politics are, you should be shocked.
You should be alarmed. The Federal Reserve is the last

(13:55):
standing independent institution. What makes the United States the United States.
It's why nations globally look to us as the dominant
superpower is because our central banks, our banks are independent
of politics. The Federal Reserve governors they tend to serve
what is it, fourteen year terms, specifically so that they
have not touched so much by politics. So to see

(14:18):
a sitting president go after a governor on the Federal Reserve,
not only is it going to tank our markets. But
it's literally the next step to complete authoritarianism. But when
you go after a black woman who's coming to her
aid again, we got to this position because six million
of our own Democrats didn't want to vote for that

(14:41):
black women. So now they're not going to step up
take to the streets. Mag's not going to step up
and say, wait a minute, you're destroying my pockets. Because
you're going after this black woman. It plays into their bigoted,
misogynistic fears that oh.

Speaker 5 (14:55):
They're coming for us.

Speaker 9 (14:56):
They got their job from some THEI Woke type thing.
That's why we're seeing all of those narratives.

Speaker 10 (15:03):
But this is literally a ploy, a stunt so that
we are we are divided, we are blinded as he
takes over the Central Bank, and that is literally potentially
the end of democracy, and our bigotry is going to
allow that to happen.

Speaker 9 (15:21):
You are building authoritarian regimes off the backs of black
women in your bigotry, and that is something that all
of us need to be loud about. We need to
hold people accountable who are silent in this moment, and
we need to be very fearful, especially as black people,
that this is happening going your watch, and so anyone
that doesn't want to answer the call and support this

(15:41):
black woman, this is going to destroy your pocket. The
fact that the US government has our private data, are
our mortgage data, and they are using that weaponizing it
against us.

Speaker 11 (15:53):
Be alarmed.

Speaker 5 (15:54):
This is a problem.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Yeah, it is and more Morgan.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
I'm sorry, I was just going to say.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
The other thing to note about this is how does
Lisa Cook become a governor of the federals or bank.

Speaker 5 (16:10):
That doesn't just happen.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
That means that you were part of the Federal Reserve
banking system before. How do you become part of that?
That's because financial institutions in the region where you're working
choose you to be part of the Federal Reserve Bank,
and then you get nominated and eventually confirmed by the
United States Senate to become a governor of the National
Federal Reserve. And so it's interesting, and I agree with Ronda,

(16:35):
you know that we aren't hearing more from financial institutions
leaders from the private sector that really we're part of
putting her in a position to become a governor, and
now are just stepping back and being silent in the
midst of this. Despite the real economic harm that could
stem from this politicization, politicization of government.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Well, listen, it's it's I mean, my god is eight
months in and Ronda, I keep warning people it's not
going to get better. It is going to get worse.
And as long as these thugs are empowered, every time
he says oh, dictator, and national media doesn't make it
a major issue, then they go, oh, we can go further.

(17:23):
So what they're doing is very clear. They laid out
in Project tween twenty five. They're executing this strategy and
the only thing that we have left is to fight
this in the courts. And I keep saying this over
and over and over again. There's not a single black
person who can afford to sit out for next election.
And that means every single Republican must be penalized at

(17:47):
the ballot box because they are all complicit in allowing
this thug, Donald Trump to do what he's doing.

Speaker 9 (17:55):
And Roland, you know, I was on the campaign. I
spent more time writing press statements. I was the head
of the Women's Coalition about what Project twenty twenty five
would mean for all of us. We spelled this out
capitulation and mainstream media did not do its job to
help us project that message. That's why shows like this,

(18:17):
support this show, support this platform, because this is the truth.
But we knew this was coming. We tried to get
this message out and looking at this where this man
has literally built a administration of henchmen and hitchwomen that
will do his dirty bidding regardless of the Constitution. We
were warned about this. Now the fight is in the

(18:37):
courts and at the ballot boxes, and it's time to
really buckle down. We cannot sit this out.

Speaker 8 (18:46):
I think we need to be real though, too, and
I agree with a lot of what you said, Ronda
ben Roland, but the courts are unlikely to be our
friend here. I mean, it is the case that you know,
there was a Supreme Court case about the independence of
other agency leads. It seem like the Supreme Court was
willing to respect that the Federal Reserve is unique. Hopefully

(19:06):
they continue to do that, but we don't really have
a lot of great evidence to go on there. Though
I'm very very happy that she's just immediately suing the
administration and challenging this illegal act from them. So I
do think we also have to consider you know that
contrast of like, what is what is not happening?

Speaker 5 (19:27):
What are the type like I was saying before, what are.

Speaker 8 (19:28):
The types of crimes that they are very comfortable letting
sail through? And how they are impacting Americans pocketbooks every
day in a bunch of different industries. And I agree
with your role, and it's only going to get worse.
I think that has to be part of you know,
I am not in charge of any political party, but
if I were thinking about, you know, how you message

(19:50):
in this moment, I would be considering calling out, you know,
some of those entities that are just skirting by and
are raising prices in addition to all of the democratic
threats and the and the risk of authoritarianism here that
continues to grow.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we obviously can't. It's not like
it's guaranteed to count on the course. But what we
have seen, though, we have seen many other federal judges,
including Trump federal judges. The Trump appointed federal judge just
blasted their lawsuit against Maryland federal judges and throwing it
out of court. Now, the Supreme Court barewell the backstop.

(20:27):
But if this Supreme Court continues to allow this men
to do whatever you want to do. They are risking
people questioning their legitimacy. And again, no matter what that happens,
I still contend and it is fundamentally important. That is,
people are going to have to rebel at the ballot box.
As long as people sit elections out, as long as

(20:48):
they don't vote, as long as people complain on social
media and don't vote, they are empowering these thugs. They
are giving them the right to do what they want
to do, and that's simply has to stop. Morgan and
Ronde shly appreciate y' all being on today's show.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
Thank you so very much, Please for having inspitle.

Speaker 1 (21:08):
Going to a break, I'll be right back, rolland unfiltered
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I'm russell O l Honore Lieutenant Gerald United States Sorrow retired,
and you're watching Roland Martin.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
I'm Felter, all right, folks, I want to bring in
our pau right now. Lots to lots and lots of
lots talk about doctor must stop us out there, gonna
lead former Senior Visor for Environmental Justice at the EPA
joining us out of d See Randy Bryant, entrepreneur, author

(22:29):
of Never Said twenty five phrases you should never ever
say to keep your job and friends joining us. Well,
I don't know if she's in DC, because you know
she's always somewhere. Yeah, it looked like she had the
crib last time. She was all over the world, you know.
Joe Richards and civil rights attorney, y'all. I know where

(22:52):
she was. I just wasn't gonna say it. I know
where she was. McKenzie hopping in my ear trying to
tell me I ain't gonna put the sister business out there.
I'm just saying she uses her passport a lot. Joe Richison,
somebody's attorney out of LA glad to have all y'all
on today's panel. Oh, man, I it's so much I

(23:13):
gotta deal with. So let's deal with this first. Uh,
do y'all have the mortgage fraud clip? Do y'all have it? Okay?
All right? So again Trump Trump and his Trump and
his sequel fans had the news conference today. Uh, and
listen to this bs that was said.

Speaker 15 (23:36):
When it comes to Fed Governor Lisa Cook, her lawyer
has said that they're going to be following a lawsuit
challenging is legal action.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
What is your response to you prepared for a legal fight?

Speaker 16 (23:46):
And a little bit more, Look, I had a legal
fight that went on for years with crooked people, with
very horrible people, people that have been found out now
between John Radcliffe and Elsea and and I mean the
things that we found out. Of course, it's a very
very sad group of people. But now she seems to

(24:08):
have had an infraction. And she can't have an infraction,
especially that infraction, because she's in charge of, if you
think about it, mortgages, and we need people that are
one hundred percent above board, and it doesn't seem like
she would.

Speaker 1 (24:24):
Okay, So that was that. In the end, this full
made this comment when it came to bring you up
again being a dictator.

Speaker 16 (24:37):
But then he goes on television he says, oh, Trump
is a dictator, and a lot of people here, so
the line is that I'm a dictator, but I stopped crying.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
So a lot of people say, you know.

Speaker 16 (24:49):
That's the case. I'd rather have a dictator, but I'm
not a dictator. I just not to stop crying.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
No, actually you don't. You don't know to stop crime,
and you're not stopping crime. So that's a lot. But
the thing here was st off of that. Again, we
have to focus on the repeated comments if I being
a dictator. What they're doing is they're waiting, And so
the whole deal is, oh well, if there's not going
to be any real reaction from people, guess what we

(25:20):
can actually be move closer to being a dictator.

Speaker 17 (25:26):
It's about socialization, right. You say things, you do things,
and you see if it has a negative impact, and
if folks don't speak out and push back and say
these are not American values and we're not going to
support it, then they take it another step further, and
then they try it again, and they try it again
until they see how far they can go.

Speaker 7 (25:48):
And then eventually people.

Speaker 17 (25:49):
Will look back and they'll no longer be able to
find democracy inside of this country. You'll no better be
fined justice inside of this country. So they're just trying
to socialized folks. And that's the reason he uses both
his media platform. He uses the news also because they
capture what he says and there's no real pushback, there's

(26:11):
no real analysis. So this is a well thought out game.
There is intentionality in each one of the things that
they as a team do, and of course he plays
it out for America.

Speaker 7 (26:22):
So folks have a choice when you see these types
of things.

Speaker 17 (26:26):
You can call it out and say that you're not
supporting it and not support it through your vote, not
support it, you know, through other mechanisms, or you can
continue to watch the erosion of a set of values
inside of our country that were supposed to actually build
the foundation on it.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
And they absolutely, Joe, they want to be a dictator.
They want to ignore the law. That is their desire.
We have seen this over and over and over again,
and that's why people have to respond. They cannot be
island and not respond to these actions, whether it's the
National Guard, whether it's just blowing up the law. I mean,

(27:07):
that's what's going on here. And let's just be frank.
They got in the office because too many people were
asleep at the wheel, and we're saying, well, it wasn't
that bad last time he was there, so we survived,
so we can survive it again. We're talking now about
a completely different administration.

Speaker 18 (27:32):
Yeah, you know, nor the law, ignor court orders, you know,
make up things. We'll talk about some of these other
things that have come across recently, make up and infraction
and now saying that the person on the federal reserve
you're trying to get rid of is potentially being investigated
for an infraction and therefore she needs to come off

(27:54):
right away.

Speaker 11 (27:56):
Donald Trump doesn't like people.

Speaker 18 (27:58):
I don't think he likes smart people all then he
really doesn't like smart people that disagree with him and
then wrap it all up in one and make it
a black woman, and his reaction is absolutely viscerble, visceral.

Speaker 11 (28:11):
Now, I got to tell you, for.

Speaker 18 (28:13):
As much as Donald Trump complaints, he's got to know
that behind closed doors, he's got no complaints with this media.

Speaker 11 (28:20):
I believe the media made him president twice.

Speaker 18 (28:22):
I believe the media has normalized much of what he's done.

Speaker 11 (28:27):
The media does not sound the alarm the way that
they need to, for.

Speaker 18 (28:32):
Fear of being sued, or for fear being considered less
than objective, for fear of being considered.

Speaker 11 (28:40):
Left wing, or whatever it is. I'm not sure what
it is.

Speaker 18 (28:43):
But he's got no complaints at all because the media
has made him president twice and they're continuing to normalize
by and large of the things that are going on now.
And so now he's attacking this woman, trying to get
rid of her off the Federal Reserve because she's in
the way. And you know, knowing that black women, particularly

(29:04):
smart ones, are much less likely to support him in
any way, shape or form, and those that are there
because of their acumen and expertise in her case and financials,
they're not going to move off of what it is
that they know to do just because he has this
perception that he wants X y Z done and so

(29:27):
therefore get rid of them, you know, do everything that
we need to do.

Speaker 11 (29:31):
Let's create a problem. Now, I'll fire them, et cetera.

Speaker 18 (29:34):
And it's just amazing to me that people are not
understanding quite the way that they need to.

Speaker 11 (29:39):
That's why the alarm has to be sellded.

Speaker 18 (29:42):
We're in a very very dangerous place, and we have
been for a long time. And you know, and again
to your point, we're only eight months into this thing,
and it's going to continue, and there has to be
some pushback, some consistent pushback somewhere so that we can
call a spade a spade, and that everything that can

(30:02):
be done actually is. But it is certainly unfortunate that
by and large, not at the level that they should be,
people don't seem to be getting this right the way
they need to be.

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Randy, so many people made assumptions and I remember vocal
by our chat of all y'all, y'all spending too much
time on this, y'all making too much, too big of

(30:39):
a deal out of this. The problem that you have
is you have a Republican led a Congress who is
so scared of him they don't want to say or
do anything, so they are in essence giving up the
power of Congress. And so you have Trump basically saying

(31:02):
I own these Supreme Court justices, which means that he's
in control of the executive, the legislative, and the judicial.
And that right there is scary. There were so many
simple cimon negroes. Oh, there's not going to impact us.
They can't do anything to us. Really, New York is

(31:24):
the largest concentration of black people in America. Chicago is
number three behind Atlanta. You don't think they're going to
be targeting black people. And so folks really had better
wake up to understand how these people are being thugs,
how they are weaponizing the federal government, not just with

(31:46):
that power, but how they are weaponizing it to control
public companies, private companies, major companies in so many different
areas as well. This is far reaching. We have never
ever seen this consolidation of power ever in this country.

Speaker 19 (32:08):
Right we are living through a direct attack on Black Americans,
and they are going through it systemically.

Speaker 14 (32:18):
They plan this, This is Project twenty five. He is
doing what he said he was going to do. And
one of the ways that he is crippling us is
to ensure that anyone who gets in his way, particularly
black people, are cut at the knees. And he started
out with the Joint chiefs of Staff and he's gone
through and said, okay, now he's at Cook, and how

(32:41):
can we get rid of Cook? And let's be clear,
if Trump has done nothing else. He knows the legal system.

Speaker 4 (32:50):
This is a thirty four time felon. He was fighting.

Speaker 14 (32:53):
Lawsuits back in the day when he wouldn't rent homes
to black people in the eighties.

Speaker 4 (32:59):
He knows what is about and he knows what due process.

Speaker 14 (33:02):
Is, but he doesn't use it when it comes to
people that he feels.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
Fuel will get in his way. And he knows that.

Speaker 14 (33:10):
These very well qualified black women that he keeps attacking.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
So, because let's be clear, Cook was on the.

Speaker 9 (33:16):
Administra the staff of University of Michigan.

Speaker 4 (33:20):
She was on the staff of Harvard.

Speaker 14 (33:22):
She has served under three other presidents prior to him, Obama,
Clinton and Bush. Of course she's well qualified because black
people have to be overqualified to be in that position.
So he knows that he has to get this brilliant woman,
this well qualified woman, out of his way so he
can run what's supposed to be an independent bank to

(33:46):
ensure that. This is why I mean, there have been
clashes with presidents and people on the governor's board before,
but it's never been when someone has tried to fire someone,
and trying to fire.

Speaker 4 (33:57):
Someone because of an allegation, not this.

Speaker 14 (34:01):
She has not been at all proven of doing any
wrongdoing but an allegation, whereas he where it's okay for
he who has been proven guilty to be the president
of the United States.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
That is the hypocrisy of all this.

Speaker 14 (34:16):
It's that is that is what is fearful, and and
what what what should make us fearful? And furthermore, the
fact that no one is going to stop him. I mean,
he is a bully and everyone seems to be scared
of him, everyone that.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Is, but black women, you know, mustat for this. Idiots
set out a social media post of the days complaining
about negative stories against him by ABC and NBC and
then threatened to pull their f since he licenses. First

(34:51):
of all, he's so stupid that ABC News the network
and NBC News the network, they don't actually have licenses.
The only the local stations, the NBC owned and operated
ABC owned operizations have licenses. But this is what we
do know. His the FCC chairman, Brittan the car absolutely

(35:14):
is a right winger. Absolutely has been using the power
of the FCC or to drive a bag of agenda.
And so I wouldn't put that past Brittan the car
Or to do that.

Speaker 17 (35:29):
Yeah, I mean, you know, It is all about power, right,
So if you say on the face of it that
you're going to pull those license for ABC, NBC or
whoever it might be, and it makes you look powerful
and strong. If you say, you know that you're trying
to take away from local networks, then you're getting down
to where people actually lived and the stories that folks

(35:50):
hear about what's going on in their communities. And you know,
people have a bigger issue with that than these big conglomerates.

Speaker 7 (35:57):
So I wouldn't be surprised either. These heads of these
respective networks.

Speaker 17 (36:03):
You know, continue to erode our values, continue to fire
people of color, do all these negative things to actually
stop the right types of information, truthful information, to be
moved forward instead of the misinformation and disinformation that they
continue to allow to just spin around.

Speaker 7 (36:23):
So I'm never surprised with many of these folks.

Speaker 17 (36:26):
I'm disappointed in them, but I understand the game and
I understand that they're not interested in actually doing what's right.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
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Speaker 1 (39:26):
Dean Withers, a young former Trump supporter who now, of
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One Woke Team Versus one Hundred Trump Supporters Really share
in a recent episode in the Counter while he while
he doesn't believe a GOP, including Donald Trump, can't stand

(39:47):
black people.

Speaker 27 (39:52):
All right, Hey, I just like, well, I just want
to be clear her Republicans hate black people. Maggot hates
black people. Right, So, if you're watching and you're a
black person, Magga hates you. They hate you, they loathe you,
they despise your existence. What's my evidence for this. We've

(40:14):
been live for about an hour now. We haven't had
one Trump supporter come up here and tell us why
they support Trump. No, we haven't. We haven't. We've had
maybe twenty people come up here and scream the inWORD.
Though Republicans are more willing to slur. Republicans are more
willing to hate crime. Republicans are more willing to despise

(40:37):
you for your existence. If you're a black person watching this,
then they are willing to give one intellectual reason why
Donald Trump is a good president. So for everybody watching,
I mean, I'm talking about the two point two thousand
people on YouTube and the seven point three thousand people
on TikTok, this shit should be radicalizing you. I'm being
so fucking real. This shit should radicalize you. How scary

(41:00):
is that the millions of Americans that support the president
we have today don't support them because of reason, don't
support him because of fact, don't support him because of logic.
They don't support him because of anything in alignment with reality.
They support him out of hate and disdain for you

(41:20):
if you are a black person. Right, and once again
the fact that we have had twenty people come up
here and vocalize the explicit, their explicit hate hatred for
black people instead of giving one argument for why they

(41:40):
support Trump, one reason, talking about the economy, talking about
his policy, immigration, foreign affairs. No, it's just the inWORD.
So if you're a black person, if you're a brown person.
If you're BIPOC, MAGA hate to you.

Speaker 1 (42:05):
No, Lie's told Randy.

Speaker 4 (42:08):
I mean water is wet, Water is wet.

Speaker 28 (42:12):
I mean, you know, of course there are a few
step de fetchets who think differently, but I think the
majority of Black people are very clear that we are hated.

Speaker 4 (42:24):
That is what MAGA is about. They are not about so.

Speaker 14 (42:27):
Much what they're going to do for others, but what
they're going to do against others, to oppress others. I mean,
the name of their game is the oppression of anybody
that is non white. They definitely hate black people, but
you know, I try to make people understand that I've
never met a bigot who was targeted. And by that,

(42:50):
I mean if someone hates black people, we may get
it the worst and first, but they they are xenophobic.
They're not messing with Jews, they're not messing with lgbt qya,
they're not messing with Hispanics.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
So you know, we're in this together, whether they realize
it or not.

Speaker 14 (43:06):
I think a lot of people are having wake up
calls right now as we speak, and that's part of
the reason that you know, the election went the way
it did. Is because some people people were fine as
long as black people were going to be hurt. They
knew black people would be hurt, they didn't realize that
they too would be targeted as well. But yeah, I
mean it's you know, people will listen to if I

(43:29):
don't know anything else, I know, people will listen to
a white people, white person, and trust a white person
telling them about their own people before like me or
you say it. So it's great that this young man
is just calling a thing a thing. But I don't
think any of us are sitting over here in shock
and awe about what he's saying. It is not it
was not a revolutionary statement, you know.

Speaker 1 (43:52):
But but but he's all but his audience. But his
audience is not our audience. Uh, And he needed to
say one needs to be said because Joe, what we
have to recognize? Yeah, I mean, yeah, so it was
it was critically important, I think for him to say
what he had to say, because what we have to recognize.

(44:14):
And again, this was literally the basis of my book
life here while the browning of Americas making wife folks
lose their minds. And I called it, and I hate
the fact that I called it, and I saw it.
It was coming true. U. But but we have to
recognize that. I mean, look, I saw piece earlier one
of the Proud Boys. They were like, Oh, we don't

(44:35):
have to protest anymore because we're not on the inside.
We're now mainstream our viewpoints. Oh we're good. That's literally
what the racists are saying, Joe, We're good. They are
embracing us.

Speaker 18 (44:53):
Yeah, and so from from where they see, things are
being well taken care of.

Speaker 29 (44:59):
You know, know.

Speaker 18 (45:01):
What I like to say is, you know, are there
Republicans out there that you know that it'll say that
they don't hate white people and kind of mean it.

Speaker 11 (45:08):
Yeah, sure there are. But here's what I say in
response to that. You can say that that I'm cool.

Speaker 18 (45:15):
You can say that you're a Reagan Republican or which
is a whole lot better than me or Bush. Let's say
a Bush one Republicans. I'm a I'm an HW Republican.
And but the HW Republicans aren't the ones in charge.
I mean, how long ago does it seem that yet

(45:35):
George H. W. Bush actually supported It's a little lodered
down with the nineteen ninety one civil rights built. How
long ago does it seem that George W. Bush supported
some initiatives in Africa. How long ago does it seem
that some folks that were on that side of the

(45:56):
aisle acknowledged that some other folks had a right to
exist even if there were some some some very honest disagreements.

Speaker 30 (46:06):
So at the end of the day, what I sell
people is that, well, if you don't hate me, if
you don't you know, if you're a quote good Republican
or whatever, well the good Republicans aren't the ones that
are running things now.

Speaker 18 (46:21):
There aren't the ones that are in the White House
making decisions. Good Republicans are getting run out of town, okay.
And so at the end of the day, you know.

Speaker 1 (46:30):
No, sorry, no, actually, Joe, Joe, no, no, no, no, Jack, No, no, Joe.
I disagree with that, because here's why. Yes, there are
never Trumpers that exist, but there are people. There are
people like James Baker, who was called a statesman, who
was COO, was President Bush's chief of staff, who was

(46:50):
Secretary of State, and then New Yorker did a story
on him, and he made perfectly clear, do I like
some of the things that he says and does? No,
I'm a Republican. I'm going to vote for the Republican.
So the reason Donald Trump is there is frankly, because
those folks have not been aggressive. Listen for all of

(47:16):
the talk of Trump's former chief of staff retired for
star general and the comments that he confirmed to book
authors John Kelly did not come out publicly before the

(47:41):
election and say to the country, do not do not
vote for this man. See. And that's the real deal,
because I keep saying this. Republicans like James Baker, Republicans
like Eric Ericksson, Republicans like Bill Barr. They can they

(48:05):
personally hate Donald Trump, they personally despise Donald Trump, but
Donald Trump is their trojan horse because he is their
access to total power.

Speaker 18 (48:18):
And making a circle. If your guy hates me, you
can say you don't hate me.

Speaker 2 (48:25):
But if your guy.

Speaker 18 (48:25):
Hates me and you support your guy, A plus equals
being equal C then A equals see, so we get
to the same place. So whether or not this gentleman
is right saying, you know, Maggia hates you, when Republicans
hate you, and you know Republicans tate black people whatever else,
that's still how it shows up.

Speaker 11 (48:45):
You know, the book says love not a word, neither
in tongue, but indeed and in truth.

Speaker 18 (48:50):
So if your guy is screwing me because your guy
hates me, and we're sure about that, and you look
the other way for whatever reason why your guy does
what he does, then you're right there with your guy.
And that's what it that's what it arives at. For sure,
it might arrive for a different reason or a different way.
At the end of the day, if he's your guy
and you support your guy and he hates me, then

(49:15):
you might as well hate me because it has the
same effect.

Speaker 1 (49:22):
You know, Ustafa, there were there was, there were some
racists who were fired in the first term of Trump.
They're now back and they got promotions, and so all
gloves are off these people. They don't care. They they
are full on embracing of racism. And we all know

(49:42):
Stephen Miller is an absolute white nationalist, and so these
if you are a racist in America, you have a
home in Maga world. In fact, you guys are the
white folks in Arkansas who literally are building their whites
only community. They may they want any blacks there, I
can guarantee you if we don't want to live in

(50:03):
your asses.

Speaker 17 (50:08):
Malcolm X once said that power never takes a backstep,
only in the face of more power.

Speaker 7 (50:14):
And that's what we see going on right now, is.

Speaker 17 (50:16):
That people are comfortable with doing the things that they
always wanted to do and saying the things that they
always wanted to say because they have an administration that
backs it up and that amplifies it, and not only
do they bring it forward in words, but actually in deeds.
Because you say lots of things, I always evaluate your

(50:36):
actions to know exactly how you care about me. So
when you dismantle diversity, equity, and inclusion, even though you
understand that there are disproportionate impacts that are happening in
housing and transportation and jobs and the environment and healthcare,
then that shows that you have little regard for me.
You might actually hate me because you understand the impacts

(50:57):
that are happening there.

Speaker 7 (50:58):
When you make it more difficul.

Speaker 17 (51:00):
Cult for education to actually happen and to make sure
that there's real equality in that space, then that means
to me that you hate me.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
When you look at the undermining of civil rights and.

Speaker 17 (51:11):
Of our museums as an example of where you want
to do a rasure in those spaces, then that sends
a very clear message about how you see me.

Speaker 7 (51:21):
When you have individuals who are.

Speaker 17 (51:23):
Talking about cash bailed and when they send the National
Guard and other law enforcement.

Speaker 7 (51:28):
Into black cities.

Speaker 17 (51:29):
DC is one of those examples, and that shows exactly
how you feel not only words.

Speaker 7 (51:35):
But in sets of actions.

Speaker 17 (51:37):
When you slash funding for all those federal agencies that
have a responsibility around whether it is the climate crisis
and these hurricanes and everything else that happens, or environmental justice,
and you say that it no longer matters and those
impacts that are happening, then they're very clear about one,
that they have power in this moment and that they're

(51:57):
going to utilize it to put you in greater arm.
And then of course all the economic impacts of stripping
away rights that folks work for for decades upon decades
to just begin to address the wealth gap in our country.
They are very clear about how they feel about you.
And then if you just want to look at whom
a person surrounds themselves with, all.

Speaker 7 (52:18):
You got to do is look at the White House.
All you got to do is look at these federal.

Speaker 17 (52:22):
Agencies, and it's very clear about what the mandate is
and the paradigm that they're operating from.

Speaker 7 (52:28):
But some folks still want to keep their eyes closed.

Speaker 17 (52:31):
Some folks still, even though you see exactly what's playing out,
you want to find and justify, well, that's not really
what they're doing, that's not really how they feel. And
it's just amazing because, as Maya said, when someone shows
you who they are, believe them. You still have folks
who don't believe.

Speaker 1 (52:51):
Folks to ty one second, going to a break, we
come back. We will talk with Chicago Pastor Flati Michael Flaker,
he spoke at the Governor J. Pritskan news conference regarding
Trump wanting to International Guard to Chicago, had some tough
for us to say, and I'm sure he will continue
to say right here on the show as well. Folks.

(53:13):
We'll be right back on a Black Shutter Network.

Speaker 31 (53:17):
Next on the Black Table with me Greg Carr, we
welcome the Black Star Network's very own Roland Martin, who
joins us to talk about his new book, White Fear,
How the Briding of America is making white.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
Folks lose their minds.

Speaker 31 (53:34):
The book explains so much about what we're going through
in this country right now and how as white people
head toward becoming a racial minority. It's going to get well,
let's just say even more interesting.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
We're going to see more violence. We're going to see
more vitriol, because as each day passes, it is a
nail in the coffin.

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Speaker 4 (55:00):
Un Filthy.

Speaker 1 (55:23):
Folks. A lot of conversation with regards to Trump in
the National Guard, to Chicago, New York and other cities
in this country. Oh, he's not focused on red states.
He cares only about the issue of the so called
issue of crime in blue states. Yesterday, at Illinois Governor
j Pritzker's news conference, Father Michael Flaker spoke, and this

(55:43):
is what he had to say.

Speaker 32 (55:47):
Chicago's not in a state of emergency. We all reject
any deployment of National Guard on Chicago streets. We do
not need nor want a militarization of Chicago or Illinois,
which is only going to induce fear, chaos, and disturb
the progress we are presently making to decrease violence. The

(56:09):
state of emergency is in America, not Chicago. And his
birth from this president and his administration. Doctor King said
he could not raise his voice against the violence of
the oppressed without having first spoken clearly to the greater
purveyor of violence, his own country. And those are my

(56:30):
words to you, mister Trump, before you dare speak about
any violence in Chicago, look into your mirror and address
the violence coming from the White House, the violence of
cutting snap, which will cut two point four million dollars
in food access, with three hundred and sixty thousand Illinoisans
at risk by taking food off their tables. Address the

(56:54):
violence of cutting Mudic Medicare and Medicaid by five hundred
million dollars, reducing access to doctors, and threatening the closure
of hospitals and nursing home facilities throughout the state of Illinois,
literally putting Americans in life and death situations. Some Americans

(57:14):
will die because of your Medicaid cuts. Address the violence
of cutting one hundred and fifty eight million dollars for
violence prevention in Illinois, and yes, as others had stated,
the eight hundred million anti violence grants nationwide, and address
the violence of refusing to ban assault weapons and high

(57:36):
capacity magazines, refusing to have universal background checks as law,
as well as red flag laws, and making America the
gun capital of the world due to its gun ownership
and sales. And while you're at it, mister Trump, stop
the gun flow into our state from your Republican state

(57:57):
of Indiana. Yes, tru Trump, Rather than exploit our men
and women in uniform for your own political theater, look
into the mirror and address the acts of violence that
you have ordered from your golden oval office, creating violence
and chaos throughout this country. Take the wasted money in

(58:22):
sending the National Guard and the wasted money used on
threatening commercials by your Homeland Security Secretary, and use it
on real violence and prevention programs that will bring peace.
The only one who we have to be concerned about
is violence, is you, mister President. Send the National Guard

(58:44):
to sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue.

Speaker 1 (58:50):
Father Flavor Joneses right now on Roland Martin on Filch.
Glad to see you again, sir.

Speaker 29 (58:54):
Good to see him, my brother. How you doing.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
Doing great? His was very interesting. I remember eleven years
ago the crime under rom Emanuel was outrageous, and I
actually wrote a column, uh talk invoking the use of
the National Guard. I made a point about I said,
you use everything at your disposal. Uh. And I remember

(59:21):
the people who are really upset, And I said, listen,
I said, if it's state police. Uh, if it's I said,
you use everything. I said, because I said, whether you're
doing traffic stops, whether you're doing you know, any sort
of different things to deal with it.

Speaker 14 (59:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (59:34):
And so want to ask men. They said, what's different?
I said, well, I said, I was specifically speaking to
the mayor and the governor. This is situation where you
have someone in the oval office who wants to do
this when we know the process for to use National
Guard is typically a governor makes that decision or makes

(59:56):
the request to the White House. Now, Trump believes that
he can do whatever he wants, and in fact, at
today's press conference, he literally said he can do whatever
he wants. Folks roll that clip and then we'll go
to fall the flavor.

Speaker 16 (01:00:15):
But then he goes on television he says, oh, Trump
is a dictator, and a lot of people here, so
the line is that I'm a dictator. But I stopped crying.
So a lot of people say, you know, if that's
the case, I'd rather have a dictator.

Speaker 7 (01:00:28):
But I'm not a dictator.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
I just not to stop crime, all right, Folks play
the other clip. That's the one what being a dictator.
The other clip, though, speaks to when he says he
can do whatever he wants.

Speaker 16 (01:00:43):
So I would have much more respect for prints cur
if he'd call me up and said, I have a problem,
can you help me fix it?

Speaker 7 (01:00:48):
I would be so happy to do it.

Speaker 16 (01:00:50):
I don't love not that I don't have the right
to do anything I want to do.

Speaker 7 (01:00:55):
I'm the president of the United States.

Speaker 16 (01:00:57):
If I think our country is in danger, and it
is in danger in these said, I can do it,
no problem going in and solving his difficulties. But it
would be nice if they'd call and they'll say, would
you do it?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
And okay, you can't do whatever you want, father Flavor.
You can't, but he thinks he can.

Speaker 32 (01:01:21):
And the sad thing at rowand is in many circumstances,
he is doing whatever the hell he wants. I mean,
everybody says he can't do this, he won't do this,
but he's doing things. He has broken the constitution, he's
broken the laws, and he thinks he is a dictator.
He can joke about if he wants you, but he's
acting like one. And the fact of the matter is,

(01:01:42):
with no check from Congress, no check from Senate, he's
got the Supreme Court in his back pocket. And like
today the Board of Governors he filed their sister where
they say he can't do that. But he's constantly just
doing things, and unfortunately those are him are letting him
do it. And that's why we've got to be very

(01:02:04):
clear here. No, you're not sending National Guard. You're not
going to put young folks from around the other states
to come in here and have a militarization of the streets.
Of Chicago yesterday, Rowland, I saw an email that was
sent to the students at Howard University that you probably saw,
telling them, because now the National Guard and because ICE

(01:02:28):
agents are all in and out of campus, that students
be careful, don't walk out without your identification. If you're
driving a car, make sure everything's set on, have your
insurance ready. This kind of madness of this fascist is unbelievable.
But the tragically is he can't do these things, but
he's doing them and nobody is stopping him.

Speaker 1 (01:02:52):
Right and again, this whole deal. Oh, I wish you
would call, but you're the same person who but eight
hundred million dollars in grants to deal with crime prevention.
And I was watching, you know, Joe Scarborough was questioning
me or Brandon Johnson this morning and he was lug well, me,

(01:03:13):
I agree with you on the social services, but wouldn't
five thousand new police help. Well, first of all, let's
be real clear, and what's happening today in Chicago. I
was just literally just reading the piece that I wrote
eleven years ago. What's happening in Chicago today? That's not
what was happening eleven years ago, right, And see that's

(01:03:35):
the thing these Republicans, you know, they throw out I
remember when I kicked Philip from Indiana's butt and I
was like, dude, you've never even been in Chicago. They
use Chicago as the punching bag whenever they need to
try to bake their point about oh my god, how
bad crime is.

Speaker 32 (01:03:54):
Exactly and a good point, you know. And I'm certainly
not going to sit here and say we have wakanda.
But the truth of the matter is violent crime is
down and and and homicides are down, and shootings are down.
We have we have showed we've done some things together
that have worked. We got a good police chief. Now

(01:04:14):
we in the sixth district here, we have worked are
so hard building a relationship between police and and and
and citizens and young people and conversations out. We see
what's working. We see what's working, the intervention in the street.
So the craziness is we see things that are working
and seeing crime coming down, and he cuts off the

(01:04:35):
money that helps those things continue and then want to
send in National Guard through the very thing we say
it is never going to work, militarization. So you're sending
you you spend thousands and millions of hours and send
National Guardian for the band aid for two months and
have them in every corner, making people live in drink.

Speaker 29 (01:04:54):
And also you think some young people.

Speaker 32 (01:04:56):
Are not going to react to that and say no,
not here, not in my block, and there's gonna be
some confrontation, which is what I think he wants.

Speaker 29 (01:05:03):
I think he wants to provoke violence in Chicago because
oh he does. Oh oh, that's what he wants.

Speaker 1 (01:05:10):
Yes, yeah, I recorded a podcast today here in Atlanta
with Pastor Jamal Bryant, and it's literally what I said.
I said, Donald Trump, he desperately wants people to react.
And I and what I said to Pastor Brian is
that what has to happen there are people, there has

(01:05:30):
to be a non violent reaction to it, because because yeah,
Trump is itching for what they call unrest. In fact,
if anybody looks at those orders of the Department of Defense,
that's what he was focused on, the issue of civil unrest.
He wants to cancel the election citing civil unrest. And

(01:05:53):
so if people are going to respond, it has to
be a non violent reaction. And I said this Pastor Brant,
and here's the group that has been doing something has
some amazing work, whether it's these iced attentions and also
what he's doing have been Catholic priests. Pope Leo has
inspired Catholic priests to be more aggressive and bringing to

(01:06:17):
a moral authority to challenge this thuggish administration.

Speaker 32 (01:06:22):
You're right, Roan, and two things are saying is one
is we are gonna have a calm coming out in
the Tribune this coming Sunday. We're saying this is the
time for faith leaders in general, Muslims, Christians and Jews
to unite. We can have our differences and our faith,
but the foundations of all it is justice.

Speaker 29 (01:06:42):
It's respective people.

Speaker 32 (01:06:44):
It's the love of our sisters and brothers and the
treatment of each other with justice that we're saying, with
time to come together and make a strong frunt. And
next week we're having two different days of trainings of
a group of minutes we put together for nonviolent resistance.
This is the time to go back and bring out

(01:07:05):
all that doctor King taught us about civil disobedience, about
non violence resistance, and about standing up. Because if we
can't play into his hand exactly what you said, this
is what he wants. He wants some National Guard to
get shot or some fight to break out with the

(01:07:25):
National Guard and folks in the community so they can
sit in National Guard and then the little control we
have left from the people, he will now be able
to control our neighborhoods.

Speaker 1 (01:07:39):
Mayor Johnson put out this fact sheet. The fact sheet
went out August twenty fifth. It says Mayor Johnson's primary
focus of his first two years and office has been
driving down violent crime in Chicago, So it's taking office.
Chicago's recorded historic reductions in crime and violence as the
Johnson administration has implemented a holistic approach to community safety.

(01:08:02):
In the first six months of this year, Chicago has
seen a thirty three percent reduction and homicides and a
thirty eight percent reduction in the shootings. To improve police
clearance rates, Mary Johnson added detectives and restructured the Detectives
Bureau of the Chicago Police Department to more efficiently allocate resources.
The work has resulted in a citywide homicide clearance rate
of seventy seven point four percent, the highest and more

(01:08:23):
than a decade. To address the root causes of violence,
Mary Johnson has doubled the number of mental health professionals
responding to mental health crisis calls, expanding youth summer employment
by forty seven percent, and enhanced partnerships between police officers
and community violence individual groups of most recent year of
the year Year to date statistics Overall violent crime down
twenty one point six percent, homicide thirty two point three percent,

(01:08:46):
overall shooting incidents thirty seven point four percent, multi victims
shooting incidents forty four point six percent, robbery thirty one
point nine percent, vehicular hijacking forty nine percent, aggravated assault
eighteen point one percent. Where said the same thing in
Baltimore and what Trump is not doing? And Governor Wes
Moore said, Hey, you want to see what's happening. Why
don't you bring your butt over and see it. That's

(01:09:08):
the issue that even national media is not focused on.
See they're listening to Trump in run of the sound bites. Well,
they're not saying, is okay, how did y'all actually do it?
Because that's the blueprint. The blueprint up Joe Scarborough. The
blueprint is not hey more cops, No, the blueprint is
how did you achieve these reductions in violence? And how

(01:09:29):
can we now redouble those efforts? So then so we
can have overall shooting incidents not down thirty seven four percent,
but down seventy five eighty percent.

Speaker 29 (01:09:40):
That's what makes sense, though, Roan.

Speaker 32 (01:09:43):
That's what the smart thing would be to say, Hey,
what's working in these different cities that that crime is
coming down, bounces coming down, Relationships are being built between
police and community, the street intervention is working. How do
we support this and and take it all the way down,
and how do we use this, as you said, a

(01:10:03):
blueprint for other cities, and particularly all these red cities
where violence is way higher than Chicago right now. But
the truth of the matter is he doesn't give a
damn about the violence. He didn't give a damn of
all that's going on the streets. It's is his political
theater to go into democratic states and straights where there's
a lot of where there's street states, where there's large
African American communities that did not vote for him, that

(01:10:26):
did not support him, and bring in suppression, bring in fear,
bring in chaos, and then create this this this theater argument. Well,
I'm here to help. You're not here to help because
you don't want to know what's working. All you want
to do is come in and be the dictator in
places where he's not been able to control yet. And yes,

(01:10:47):
the endgame create the kind of chaos that will bring
about violence. He wants to He doesn't want to bring
the violence down. He wants to push the button of
violence and bring it up and have people in the streets.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
Questions from a panel, rand of your first.

Speaker 14 (01:11:10):
So when you talk about resistance, I'm talking about we
have to get all our leaders together. I mean, what
does that look like for you? Because we are to you, like,
what do we need to like real action times that
we could take right now, because I think people are
We're talking in large you know, like these big ideas,
but I think people really are wanting a plan of action, like.

Speaker 11 (01:11:32):
Where do we start.

Speaker 32 (01:11:35):
Well, I think what we're trying to do right now
is like next week, we're asking ministers and young people
to come together and go through a training. First of all,
we've got to be prepared so when they come in
with an aggressive force, we don't respond, We don't react
to that. I think one of the problems we've had
in the past is we have spent too much time

(01:11:57):
responding to what Trump is doing. Shame on us. We're
responding to a project twenty twenty five. We should have
had our own project twenty twenty five to put out
to make him respond to us. So in this circumstance now,
before they come in, what we want to do is
train people, trained, ministers, join together, come up. We have

(01:12:18):
a two conference calls tomorrow, come up with what idea is, how,
how what is going to be our response? What is
the best kind of response that we could do collectively
and together, and then make sure we're doing training of
our young people to be peer leaders on the streets
nonviolent resistance.

Speaker 29 (01:12:34):
So I think it's the training.

Speaker 32 (01:12:36):
I think it's a coming together and now planning what
kind of resistance, what kind of civil disobedience, what kind
of drawing the line and saying no? Will we decide
is going to be best to show our point.

Speaker 4 (01:12:50):
That's Fan Joe so empowering people to resist.

Speaker 18 (01:12:54):
Thank you, Thank you, revend player. Appreciate seeing you hate.
I didn't get to meet you all those years ago
when I was in Northwestern Law. Maybe we'll check the
box sometime. But you've been through a lot of hills
and valleys what you've been doing, So tell me how
you encourage your parish now because of the hills and
valleys you've seen.

Speaker 11 (01:13:15):
You've seen days.

Speaker 18 (01:13:16):
In Chicago where of course crime was a problem, but
police relations was a problem as well.

Speaker 11 (01:13:22):
That seems to have improved on some level.

Speaker 18 (01:13:25):
How do you encourage them showing them, reminding them what's good,
reminding them to be uplifted and inspired with what seems
to be trying to bear down on them, despite the
fact that it seems like with what's going on internally
there's a lot of good news.

Speaker 11 (01:13:44):
So how do you encourage your parish in a way?

Speaker 18 (01:13:48):
Hopefully we're looking over your shoulder right now, so we
can draw from that as well.

Speaker 1 (01:13:53):
Well.

Speaker 29 (01:13:53):
I think that a number of things.

Speaker 32 (01:13:55):
I think first of all, we have to be our
perspect We have to make sure we met here.

Speaker 29 (01:14:01):
No, this is not the time to get overwhelmed.

Speaker 32 (01:14:03):
This is not the time to be depressed, to be
down about what's happening. You know, people say I just
can't take them more, and no one to watch the news.
I don't want to listen to it. No, this is
not the time to retreat. This is the time to say,
what is this faith that we've we've been growing in.
What is this faith that we've been proclaiming and singing about,

(01:14:24):
and preaching about and teaching about. This is the time
in darkness when we recognize, as I told you Sunday,
it's when you turn on the light.

Speaker 2 (01:14:33):
Well, who's the.

Speaker 29 (01:14:34):
Light we are?

Speaker 32 (01:14:35):
We're the light of the world, not to be hidden.
So this is the time for us to shine. This
is the time for us to come together and know
who we are. We are the more than overcomers. We
are with the heat and us who's greater than the hen. Well,
this is the time to put legs on our feet
and make sure that we are living it every day
in our workplaces, on the street corners, and our schools.

(01:14:56):
This is the time to brow our faith to shine right.
This is the time to recognize what we say we believe.
Now it's rubber hits the road. Do we believe that
God power is greater than man's power? Do we believe
that our faith is greater? Do we believe we are
more than our overcomers? If so, let's act like it,
let's walk like it, let's talk like it, and don't

(01:15:19):
miss the opportunity.

Speaker 29 (01:15:21):
And that's what I keep telling the multi faith leaders.

Speaker 32 (01:15:24):
This is the time to come together from Christian, Muslim
jew bayh ha sheikh whatever you may.

Speaker 29 (01:15:30):
Be, and say it.

Speaker 32 (01:15:32):
I have all our holy books, the Crown, the Tour
or the Bible. We have a foundation of beliefs that
we all join one in. Let's come together where we
join one in. Let's stand up together, and let's set
a model for the for the country. This is an
opportunity for us. Don't just look at what this idiot
is doing. This is an opportunity for us to shine

(01:15:53):
brightly and to take back the narrative as the Christian Church.

Speaker 29 (01:15:58):
We have been too.

Speaker 32 (01:15:59):
Quiet for two and allow the crazy right wing evangelicals
to become the new spokesperson of Christianity. That ain't Christianity,
that's not Jesus, that that that is created Christianity. Now
it's time for the real Christianity to stand up, be tall,
be strong, be bold, and and and and be unashamed

(01:16:20):
about it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:22):
Man, thank you, Sir Mustapha.

Speaker 7 (01:16:26):
Rerevi Flacker.

Speaker 17 (01:16:27):
You make me want to go back to service right
now instead away until Sunday.

Speaker 7 (01:16:32):
I want to thank you for your leadership. Hazel Johnson
was one of my early mentors over the Uphill Gardens.
Uh So that's where I learned my social justice work.

Speaker 17 (01:16:41):
You know, she would often help to point out the
beauty of Chicago. Now, folks will often demonize our communities
and paint them uh in the vision that they have.
You spent a lot of time in Chicago. Can you
share let people see through your eyes the beauty that
actually exists in Chicago and why we need to stand
up and fight for well.

Speaker 32 (01:17:02):
I think one of the beauties is that Chicago really is.
I know logistically we're in the heart of America, but
I think Chicago really does have the heart.

Speaker 29 (01:17:11):
It's real.

Speaker 32 (01:17:12):
It's a big city with a little city feeling. We
have this beauty of different neighborhoods, of rich cultures of
from from the Chinatown to the to the Puerto Rican community,
to the Mexican community, to the out of West. Here
is the Muslim community and the Little Palestine. And we

(01:17:33):
have all these great, wonderful communities that oftentimes allowed to
be to be separated from one another. But I see again.
I think that the trial and trouble and persecution is
the time to take advantage of what we do have,
what we do know, and to rise up. I think
we can we can be a real model to the

(01:17:54):
country because the realness of what Chicago is Chicago is
what you see.

Speaker 2 (01:17:59):
Is what you can.

Speaker 32 (01:18:00):
And there's a beauty of not only the cultures here,
the beauty of the n They talk about the lakefront,
and they talk about the restaurants, but to me, the
real beauty of Chicago is the communities, the neighborhoods. As
Miss Jones on her porch, as Uncle John sitting at
the corner, or at the barber shop on Saturday mornings

(01:18:21):
listening to push with fifteen guys in the barber shop.
It's still there, it still exists. It's the time to
shine and show who we really are. Come together, be strong,
and I think the best days of Chicago can be
ahead of us if we use this crazy fascist movement
to make it the opportunity for us to really come

(01:18:44):
together and pick the best.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
I'll say this here, and I think this needs to
happen in d C. You talk about the faith community,
you want to see it here and challenge these folks
of mad If one thousand Christians are lined up shoulders
or shoulder where these National Guard members are standing there

(01:19:10):
holding their Bibles and chanting affirmations or singing freedom songs
like Snick did as well. Uh and and and looking
them in their eye. Uh see to me, to me,
that's sort of the movement that's to happen. Oh, oh,
Secretary of Defense, Pete heck Saith. You think you're a
super Christian. Yeah, let's see, let's see a thousand. Uh,

(01:19:34):
let's see a thousand black Christians. Uh, look you in
your eye, calling you out see. And so you know,
when I think about doctor when I think about doctor King,
who was being taught the non violence issued by by
Rusting and of course, uh, of course, my man, reverend uh,
Reverend Elson. And when when you think about uh, think

(01:19:56):
about all of these all these people, when you think
about the folks who are putting uh the work in uh,
that to me, that that, to me is important. When
when you think about I'm sorry, Jim Lawson, we think
about Jim Lawson who went to prison. He could have
got a deferment because he was in a seminary. He
chose to go to prison because he said he did

(01:20:19):
not believe in war to that extent and was not
going to take that that that has to return because
people need to cannot miss what you said earlier. I
said the exact same thing. They are itching for a fight.
They want people to lash out, and we cannot give
this thug what he wants.

Speaker 32 (01:20:40):
No, and Rowan, We've got to We've got to set
the parameters for the fight, not him.

Speaker 29 (01:20:46):
He wants a fight of violence.

Speaker 32 (01:20:49):
We've got to show a fight of power and of
faith and of conviction. Like you said, of stating there
and saying here we are, tell us what you're gonna do.
Go to those corners where if he comes here and
tries to put a national guard, and fill those corners
with people. Every single corner wherever there's national guard, have

(01:21:10):
peoples surrounding them, and fill them and stand there with
our Bibles, with our Koran, with our to stand there
and let them know. You think the problem is he
thinks he's got the power, and we keep surrendering like
he has.

Speaker 29 (01:21:25):
But he only had no damn power.

Speaker 32 (01:21:27):
We have the power and our faith, and this is
the time to put feet on our faith and get
up out of our churches. And then if they come
every sermon and every church, synagogue and mas ought to
be that weekend the church has left the building.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
And that's when doctor King said, you become the protagonist,
and you make him and them the antagonists.

Speaker 29 (01:21:54):
That's right. There you go, there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:21:58):
That's what's got to call the Always a pleasure to
chat with it, Yes, sir, Yes, sirs. Absolutely keep us
abreast of what happens, and we're right there with you.

Speaker 32 (01:22:08):
Appreciate you much, job Roan, thank you all.

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that where he just lied and lied about, Oh how
Governor Wes Moore was praising him, how he's the greatest
president ever. And then these idiots at Fox News thought
they had the video saying, oh, we got it, we

(01:28:10):
got it. It proves what Trump said is correct. No,
it does it roll it this a bit of he said.

Speaker 34 (01:28:19):
She said, bring between President Trump and Maryland Democrat Governor
Wes Moore.

Speaker 11 (01:28:24):
I met him at the Army Navy game.

Speaker 16 (01:28:26):
They said, know this Governor more he'd love to see you.

Speaker 1 (01:28:28):
He came over to me, shook my hand.

Speaker 16 (01:28:31):
You were there, He said, show you're the greatest president
of my lifetime. I said, that's really nice that you
say that. I'd love you to say it publicly, but
I don't think you can do that. So it's okay,
and then every time I as seem on television he's
knocking the hell out of meself.

Speaker 11 (01:28:45):
But that's all right.

Speaker 34 (01:28:46):
Let's called politics knocking the hell out of him. Wes
Moore is posting on social media saying that President Trump
can't walk, but maybe you should walk the streets of Baltimore.
It didn didn't take him long to respond to the
President there in the Oval Office. He said, Lol, keep
telling your self that, mister President.

Speaker 29 (01:29:02):
It'd be wild.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Though.

Speaker 34 (01:29:03):
If only we had the footage the President Trump had
referenced about the meeting at the Army Navy game, and
thanks to the art of the Surge on Fox Nation,
we have the footage.

Speaker 29 (01:29:15):
The presidents welcome back to Maryland.

Speaker 7 (01:29:18):
Sorry, welcome back to Maryland. It's good to see you,
john It's a conversion.

Speaker 2 (01:29:21):
To thank you, sir.

Speaker 11 (01:29:22):
Great to see you, great, great to.

Speaker 7 (01:29:24):
Have you back here. You pleasure, thank you, sorry, thanks
youing well, thank you.

Speaker 28 (01:29:29):
Well.

Speaker 7 (01:29:29):
We are we are very very anxious to be able
to work closely with you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:33):
And you know, I know the key bridge is something
that we're so sorry. It's fun.

Speaker 35 (01:29:37):
Well, I mean, we spoke to speak of Johnson yesterday
and speakers Johnson says he believes them close to the
hundred sent cost share and uh. And the thing is,
I told him, when we get that punch of cost
share done, we are going to be able to build
the Key bridge. And we were watching because I will
have it done to the inch twenty eight a time
long budget.

Speaker 2 (01:29:53):
Well hope you, Thank you, sir.

Speaker 34 (01:29:56):
We didn't hear their greatest presidents ever, but we did
hear a lot of enthusias. I'm so excited to meet you,
mister president. Who's telling the truth.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
We'll let you decide. Now, don't tell y'all, Will Caine,
it's stupid. That was literally the dumbest shit I ever
heard by life. Who's telling the truth. We'll let you decide. Idiot,
what Donald Trump said happened is an absolute lie. Will Cane?

(01:30:25):
You kiss more Trump asked than millennia. I told y'all
that boy ain't smart. We'll let you decide. Well, you know,
we didn't hear the greatest president's effort, but we heard
lots of you know, great to see you. He's the
governor of the state, dumb ass. That's what governors do.

(01:30:46):
No different than when Gavin Newsom went to the tarmac
of when Trump came there after the fires, like, what
the hell is wrong with the Fox News Literally is
stupid people television. It's stupid bit people television. The host
on that network, they are liars. They will cover Donald

(01:31:07):
Trump could kill a thousand people and they will cover
for him. Say, oh no, they all had it coming.
Will Cane, you know better, but you've got to kiss
so much. Trump asked to kiss your check, just like
Sean Hannity and laur Ingram and all the rest of
the people on that network. That's why you idiots had

(01:31:28):
to pay seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars to
Dominion because you lied about the election in twenty twenty.
And then you've got another lawsuit against you, and I
hope they get billions out of you because y'all are liars.
I mean, my goodness, Joe, how stupid can you be
to say, well, we'll let you decide who's telling the

(01:31:50):
truth when you just showed Trump lyon and the video
you showed does not contradict. Governor Wes Moore said he's lying,
but ignorant, dumb Will Kane goes, we'll let you decide.

Speaker 11 (01:32:09):
It really doesn't have to be deep.

Speaker 18 (01:32:12):
Trump says that Governor wes Moore said, X, you run
the tape like you're really doing something, and wes Moore
doesn't say what President says.

Speaker 11 (01:32:25):
He says, that's the end of the story.

Speaker 18 (01:32:27):
Mister president, he said you said this, You said he
said this.

Speaker 11 (01:32:32):
And he didn't. Here's the tape.

Speaker 18 (01:32:34):
Why would you say that as opposed to well, okay,
he didn't say that, you know, moving target, you know,
moving target lower the standards. Well he didn't say that,
but but but boy, he sure was complimentary. Well, you
know some of us, don't, you know, start battles unless
they happen.

Speaker 11 (01:32:53):
Don't start numon be none.

Speaker 18 (01:32:54):
A president is supposed to be governors and presidents are
supposed to be cordial. Mayors and governors are supposed to
be cordial to the extent that they can be. You
can have political differences but still greet each other in
the football game. So yeah, to your point, it's crazy
how he can totally.

Speaker 11 (01:33:13):
Lie, not tell the truth at all. And it's okay.

Speaker 18 (01:33:17):
It's okay with quote journalists, people that are supposed to
check folk for truth, people that are supposed to put
a mic in front of somebody and said, you said this,
happen and it actually didn't. And we've got the table,
we've got the receipt. What does this say about you?
What does this say about your character?

Speaker 1 (01:33:33):
Why?

Speaker 18 (01:33:33):
Why should people agree, disagree, or agree with you or
believe you when you say X, Y or C.

Speaker 11 (01:33:40):
So it shows you where we are now.

Speaker 18 (01:33:43):
It shows you you know what's happened with the media
and how far.

Speaker 11 (01:33:47):
It's a move.

Speaker 18 (01:33:47):
It shows you the whole Fox saying it doesn't matter
what the president actually says and whether he tells the
truth or not, they're gonna still gloss over it, cover.

Speaker 11 (01:33:56):
It up, et cetera.

Speaker 18 (01:33:58):
And so if they do that, when you can show
something to be demblishably false by your own tape and
you still want the tape and interpret it a different.

Speaker 1 (01:34:09):
Way, what do you do with that? Randy, Here's what will? Randy,
here's a will can should have said, we're sekle fants,
we kiss his ass. So you decide that's what he
should have said.

Speaker 36 (01:34:26):
But you know he's going to get away with what
he did because the one thing about him leaning towards
Trump and kissing his ass more than Malania, as you said,
which is hilarious.

Speaker 28 (01:34:37):
Is that, So do the people who watch Fox, so
they will look at that tape and say, I mean
they literally will say, oh, no, he said it.

Speaker 4 (01:34:45):
Trump was not lying because I saw.

Speaker 37 (01:34:47):
The tape, And even though the tape didn't say that,
they won't make that conclusion because that's what they want
to believe about their felon in charge.

Speaker 28 (01:34:58):
So yeah, I mean, he gets away with lying so
much because he has a bunch of dumb.

Speaker 4 (01:35:03):
People following him. And then we have seen the complete crumbling.

Speaker 14 (01:35:07):
Of journalism, which is such a vital part of you know,
maintaining a democracy so people can make real decisions. But
you know, because we have now had this yellow journalism
and they really are just going to say whatever they
have to say to hold their leader.

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
You know, there is nothing that's non biased. So yeah,
it is sad. I mean, the whole Fox engine is
scary but effective.

Speaker 1 (01:35:35):
I mean Msava will Came's, Hey we have the tape.
Oh my god, this is awesome. Well it doesn't really
show him saying that, you know, you're the greatest president
of my lifetime, but oh boy, they were cordial. There
were such greetings. Well that's part of the problem for
Fox News. They're so used to they're so used to

(01:35:57):
this maga idiot being so disrespectful and nasty that they
forgot what it's like when you have a president or
occupy of the oval office who knows how to be
cordial to a mayor or a governor and who doesn't
chastise them and call them names in their face, like

(01:36:19):
the uncouth individual who Will Caine loves to kiss his ass,
kiss the ass off.

Speaker 17 (01:36:28):
Yeah, you know, you've got some hosts out there who
evidently just don't do the work right. You know, you
got hosts who just take a script and just move
forward and have no real you know, connection to the
information that they're actually shut you know, sharing.

Speaker 7 (01:36:43):
So it really looks like that.

Speaker 17 (01:36:46):
It's like you don't know what's coming up, you don't
know what's inside the clip, and then you try and
smooth it over. So, you know, maybe Fox just needs
to actually make sure that the individuals stay higher, actually.

Speaker 7 (01:36:58):
Have the chops do the job. But you know that's
for them to decide.

Speaker 17 (01:37:02):
I don't watch Fox News, No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:37:05):
No for Fox exec Fox execs like lying. They allow lying,
they encourage lying, they tolerate lying. Their whole network is
built on lies.

Speaker 7 (01:37:20):
Well I get that. I mean I know it's all
about misinformation.

Speaker 17 (01:37:22):
We talk about it on the show, and that's how
they thrive because they understand that most people are not
going to do any research on it. They're not going
to think critically about what is being shared. So that is,
you know, that is just what it is. You know,
for other folks, I hope that they're actually going to
deal with a deeper analysis. When somebody says something, actually
check it out for yourself and make sure that there's

(01:37:45):
real truth in what's being shared. And that's for all media.
I was just going to say that I've been out
with presidents before, so it is about a level of decorum.
It is about, you know, making sure that you're showing
a level of respect. I've seen governors different parties meeting
with presidents and that's what they do because that's what

(01:38:05):
you're supposed to do. So for them to try and
twist it and do all these other types of things,
once again, it is just a part of the disinformation
and misinformation that they think is what folks are going
to tolerate, and unfortunately we do see that sometimes and
that's why, whether it's this network or other trusted sources,

(01:38:25):
you need to be tuning in there, because if not,
you'll just get caught up in this whirlpool of lies
and information that is not helpful to the real issues
that we should be talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:38:41):
Folks. These people will lie about live. That's who they are.
They are scared to call balls and strikes. And I
can guarantee you if President Joe Biden has said what
Trump said and they had the video contradicting that, they
would have been like Sleeping Joe lies. But they will
never call out the lies of Donald Trump. That's why

(01:39:03):
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Speaker 5 (01:40:34):
And turning twenty one.

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Speaker 38 (01:41:10):
Now that Roland Martin is ruling to give me the blueprint,
Casey Rise, I need to go to Tyler Perr and
get another blueprint because I need some green money.

Speaker 11 (01:41:19):
The only way I can do what I'm doing. I
need to make your money. So you'll see me working
with Roland.

Speaker 38 (01:41:23):
Matter of fact, it's the Roland Martin at Shrewlndon show.
What it should be, the show show at Roland Show.

Speaker 7 (01:41:28):
But whatever show it's gonna be, it's gonna be good.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
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It's a story of family, flavor and black entrepreneurship. Lafe's

(01:42:42):
the president and CEO John Towns Barbecue.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Hey man, how you doing doing well? How are you.

Speaker 1 (01:42:50):
Doing great? So the origin of John Thoms, Okay, where
does the name come from?

Speaker 2 (01:42:57):
John Tom is my grandpa.

Speaker 39 (01:42:59):
It's his first in middle name, and it's what his
family affectionately called him. They were Southern, from Mississippi, so
they pronounced it joan tone. But yes, John Thomas his
first and middle name. He had created a barbiee. I'm sorry, no, no,

(01:43:21):
go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. Now, I was just
gonna say he had created a barbecue sauce, I think
before I was born, and he so I grew up
with this barbecue sauce. The whole family did, and he
took it to the grave with them. We realized that
when he passed away that there was no recipe. He
never wrote it down. So that's kind of how I

(01:43:44):
got involved. When I was in college, I just decided
that I was going to try to recreate or reverse
engineer his recipe just based off of memory of what
he put in it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
But I had no formula. So that's how I got here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:05):
Got it. And so how did you piece it back together?
How did you? And how did you? I mean, what
were you talking to other family members? We're trying to
get people to remember watching him actually do it? How
did you do that?

Speaker 2 (01:44:21):
So?

Speaker 39 (01:44:21):
I spent significant time with my grandfather when I was younger,
and so I was there most of the times when
he would make it. But yeah, you're correct, my aunties.
I called him and I told him I had this
idea to try to make his sauce, and so I
wrote down what I remember and then I asked them

(01:44:43):
if it was something I was missing. So they told
me what I was missing, and I just went to
the store and start throwing stuff in a pot rolling.
This went on for nearly five years. It became a
hobby of mine. I didn't get quite get his recipe,

(01:45:04):
but I came up with something that I was pretty
proud of, and I let people taste it. They loved it,
and so and never I thought I would start a business.

Speaker 2 (01:45:15):
It was just a hobby.

Speaker 39 (01:45:17):
But I guess enough people convinced me that I needed
to do something with this this sauce that I had,
and uh, and I did.

Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
All right, and so uh then all of a sudden,
until you did the sauce, and then what was next?

Speaker 27 (01:45:32):
What?

Speaker 1 (01:45:32):
What what caused you to say, all right, you know
what I want. I want to out take this thing, Nashal.
I want to make it a product of other people
to taste.

Speaker 39 (01:45:42):
So I was I was living in Milwaukee, and I
was a television news reporter at one of the news
stations there, and our general manager walked into the newsroom
one day and gave it to us direct told us
that they were stopping news operations and that all the

(01:46:03):
on air talent we would be losing our jobs. And
so that's when I decided, you know, really thought about
which direction I wanted to go. I always I kind
of thought in the back of my head that starting
a barbecue sauce business is something that I could do
when I retire, right when I would have time. But
when I was told that we were losing our jobs,

(01:46:26):
I really started to think why not now? So I
thought about it for a few weeks and landed on
the decision that I wanted to do that. I wanted
to move back to my hometown and start this business.
I just had one person to get that buy and
that was my wife. She didn't know I was thinking
about this, so I approached her and I said, don't

(01:46:50):
think I'm crazy, but what do you think if we
moved back to our hometown and I started this barbecue
sauce business, And without hesitation, she said, let's do it.
Once I got her blessing, it was just full, full
steam ahead. I have two business partners. One of them
is my first cousin. He shares the same grandpa, and

(01:47:13):
he called me one night just checking on me because
he knew I was losing my job. And I shared
with him that I was going to start this business
and as he said, cuz you need some help, and
I said I do, and he has a marketing background.
And then I, you know, I said, one more person
I want to pull into this if we're going to
do it, and that was my best friend, Rodney Robinson.

(01:47:35):
My cousin's name is TERRLL Cooper. So I approached Rodney
with it. He tasted it and was immediately.

Speaker 14 (01:47:43):
In.

Speaker 39 (01:47:43):
He said I'm in, and so that was that was
our team.

Speaker 1 (01:47:49):
So look off the time in our segment. We often
talked with the folks about the product and they're selling
it and want people to buy it, but a lot
of people just don't understand. We started talking about a
product like this here, I mean you not gonta fit.
You talk about labeling, how does it preserve? Where do
you manufacture? All different things? Cost the product? What type

(01:48:12):
of bottle, size of bitle, bottle, cost, all this sort
of stuff. Uh. And so when when you were do
your market research, what was that like? And also where
do you manufacture your barbecue sauce?

Speaker 39 (01:48:27):
Okay, so doing the research, uh, we we quickly realized
that the barbecue sauce sector is pretty oversaturated.

Speaker 2 (01:48:38):
There's a million in one.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Oh yeah, it's a it's a whole it's a whole
lot of barbecue sauces out.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
There, a lot of them.

Speaker 39 (01:48:46):
And so at first, uh, when we figure trying to
figure out, okay, so how do we where do we
make this? Back then, uh, kitchen incubators were just starting
to pop up shared kitchens, and so we found in
Indiana and you know, we went they trained us how

(01:49:07):
to take my little kitchen recipe and and scale that
up a little bit. It was an FDA approved facility,
so we could you know, we could sell it to
the to the public.

Speaker 2 (01:49:18):
And then eventually when.

Speaker 39 (01:49:19):
We outgrew that, we uh we we got on with
a co packer, which is a facility that they take
our recpete. They scale it up very, very big, and
then you know, from there they handle all the production
from A to z. They you know, from the labels
to the bottles, making the product, and then once that's done,

(01:49:43):
they ship it to my warehouse and my distributors. They
pick off of our inventory.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
All right. Then questions from the panel. Uh, let's see
here most out of your first.

Speaker 17 (01:49:59):
Yeah, congratulations, I see that Hoo's your heat and the
Sneaky Hot.

Speaker 7 (01:50:04):
I'm wondering which one of them brings the most fire.

Speaker 39 (01:50:08):
The Hoo's your heat, the hoos your heat brings the
most fire, the Sneaky Hot. It's crazy because when we
first started, I had two flavors, and that was the
original and the Sneaky Hot. The Sneaky Hot my first
crack at it was much spicier than it is now.
And I got some feedback from someone and said, hey, look, man,

(01:50:31):
you live in Indiana, you might want to scale that down.

Speaker 2 (01:50:34):
So I did.

Speaker 39 (01:50:35):
But over the years, people's palates started changing and they
were asking for a spicier version. So we delivered and
we created the Hoo's your heat. It's not crazy hot,
it's not like those pepper hobb and arrow, but I
think it's a perfect heat to complement the flavor.

Speaker 14 (01:51:00):
Randy, as a fellow entrepreneur, I know that there are
ups and downs when it comes to running and owning
a business. What lesson did you get from your grandfather
that he either told you directly or you saw from
observing him that has helped you with your business today?

Speaker 4 (01:51:20):
That honors him?

Speaker 39 (01:51:23):
Great question. My grandfather was the hardest worker. He and
his family they were. They were all from Mississippi. They
migrated up north looking for better opportunities, and he just
brought with him this this this work ethic. He had

(01:51:45):
plots of land around the city where he would he
would maintain about three or four gardens. Would have me
up on the weekends in the garden picking weeds and
picking beans and tomatoes. I just saw my my grandfather
like really work hard and the things that he did.
He was always passionate about. Barbecue was his It was

(01:52:07):
his passion before it was trendy, uh smoking meat and
making making barbecue sauce, and so I grew up around that.
I grew up very close to my grandfather, so you know,
and it's it's funny because my family said I act
like him. So I was taking all those cues, uh,
not knowing I was, but I was taking a lot

(01:52:27):
of cues from him growing up.

Speaker 4 (01:52:31):
Absolute to congratulations. I know your grandfather would be extremely proud.

Speaker 2 (01:52:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 39 (01:52:36):
I always say, I just wish he could seem Yeah.
We we we went h we went kind of a
different direction and instead of really going retail hard, we
decided to go after like your your food service accounts.
So most major sporting venues in Indiana, you'll find our

(01:52:59):
barbecue sauce there. So if you go to a coach's game,
we're there. If you go to a Pacers fever game,
we're there. If you go to uh a Notre Dame game, Purdue,
I you ball State were there. So we we kind
of chose that lane because we saw no nobody else,
Uh you had a barbecue sauce doing that. So those

(01:53:19):
those are the kind of accounts that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:21):
We go after.

Speaker 18 (01:53:23):
Fantastic Joe, great, Uh, congratulations on everything that you're doing.
I was looking on the list there and I saw
that you guys are just about everywhere in Indiana. I've
got a daughter, uh in Louisville, Kentucky. So let me
know if and when you guys have any plans to

(01:53:45):
get across state lines.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
Yes, absolutely I will do.

Speaker 39 (01:53:50):
We actually did an activation at Churchill Downs.

Speaker 1 (01:53:55):
On a.

Speaker 39 (01:53:57):
Uh yeah, so we we we were fortunate and blessed
enough to have our sauce there for that running. But yeah,
that's one thing that we're really doing is starting across
those state borders and become more of a regional presence.

Speaker 11 (01:54:13):
Excellent gratulations, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:54:17):
All right then, so folks check out the product John
Thomas Barbecue. It's on shop Blackstart network dot com. Give
me a shout of it again. This is the live
look of the shot. We have it there on our
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go to shop blackstort network dot com. This is what
the bowels look like in real time. Let's not go

(01:54:37):
to the website. So if you go to shop Blackstart
network dot com, you can try the barbecue sauces. Four
different sauces there, and we certainly want y'all to try
those and of course other products. Asked, well, okay, man,
we appreciate it. Good luck with the company, and.

Speaker 2 (01:54:54):
Thanks a lot, thank you, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
All right, appreciate it. Thanks a bunch, all.

Speaker 2 (01:55:01):
Right, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:55:02):
Final story the other day, Oh lord, the crackers are
now happy because Cracker Bear has now cracked. So pull
up the tweet. Cracker Barrel y'all posted this tweet. You know.
Donald Trump of course complained, said they should go back
to their old logo, and they said, we thank our

(01:55:24):
guests for sharing your voices and love for Cracker Barrel.
We say we will listen, and we have. Our new
logo is going away, and our old timer will remain
at Cracker Barrel. It's always been and always will be,
about serving up delicious food, warm welcomes, and the kind
of country hospitality that feels like family. As a proud
American institution, over our seventy thousand hard working employees look

(01:55:46):
forward to welcome you to our table. So they are
so happy that the white man is back sitting next
to the barrel in his comfortable share Old Randy. What
shall we do?

Speaker 14 (01:56:06):
Oh, I've had a time enjoying watching their meltdown. I mean,
these kind of things matter a lot to these people.

Speaker 17 (01:56:13):
They have.

Speaker 28 (01:56:14):
When they uncrackered that barrel, people were upset. But you know,
I've tried to get some sympathy. I did a video
about it. You know, they first took away.

Speaker 14 (01:56:24):
The rumor they had the indigenous woman on land of
Lake's butter and they took her away, and I you know,
read how people were upset about them taking the Indian maiden,
that's what they were calling her.

Speaker 4 (01:56:34):
Then you think about they took antemime away.

Speaker 14 (01:56:37):
They took Uncle Ben's, the guy on Uncle Ben's you know,
so they have gone.

Speaker 4 (01:56:43):
We do have to have some sympathy because these.

Speaker 28 (01:56:47):
Folks have had to go through a lot as they
have created a world that's more respectful of other people.
And you know, when you're used to being and think
of yourself as the only, when you're used to being privileged,
when you don't get.

Speaker 4 (01:56:59):
Your way, it feels like oppressure. They're having a hard time,
hard time.

Speaker 28 (01:57:05):
I have been absolutely chilled by watching their responses.

Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
What we're gonna do? Joe cracklebarrel cracked.

Speaker 18 (01:57:16):
Well, you know, I wasn't much for pulling up on
Cracker barrel anyway.

Speaker 11 (01:57:20):
But you know, I'd rather go.

Speaker 18 (01:57:23):
To a nice local country cooking type of spot.

Speaker 11 (01:57:27):
There's there's plenty of them right now.

Speaker 18 (01:57:29):
I'll go ahead and shout out Pat's Place and Sam
burn Due, Sam Burnard Dato.

Speaker 11 (01:57:34):
They're doing their thing. Check them out.

Speaker 18 (01:57:36):
You don't have to go to cracker Barrel, you know.
And and and there's there's nobody on the side, okay,
and a brother owns it. Okay, So just do that
all right, or just anywhere USA. Just put them in
the chat right now, the place you don't want to
go instead of cracker Barrel. They're trying to hold onto
this way cat, you know, because again you know, it's
just twenty forty two, twenty forty three.

Speaker 11 (01:57:57):
They getting ready to be out numbered. So the least
we can do is keep them on the keep the
bear and the white guy on the sign. Okay, you
go ahead and do that.

Speaker 18 (01:58:07):
But I'll go to Paths Place, or I'll go to
this place at that place. Hell, i might even go
to KFC or Popeye's. Okay, there's other stuff you can do.
You don't have to go to crack a bell. You
don't have to stand for this, okay. But life is
going to go on. I want everybody to be encouraged,
regardless of who's on the sign. It doesn't mean that
you have to go so gone and pull up somewhere

(01:58:28):
else and do that thing.

Speaker 11 (01:58:30):
God bless you, Joe.

Speaker 1 (01:58:33):
I'm sorry, go ahead there.

Speaker 40 (01:58:37):
Well, I'm just saying, where can they go? Because they
want to feel like if the good old days. They
want to go to the days where it's the good
old days. You know, they want to make America great again. Yes,
places like that.

Speaker 18 (01:58:50):
It's hard, I mean, you know, but you know, sometimes
it goes down, and so you know, I guess you
can always close your eyes and keep tunnel vision on
on Fox News and get your Cracker Barrel to go
and and then you can watch it and then everything
can be everything can be good. But hey, you know, uh,
you know the rest of us don't have to go.

(01:59:10):
So we'll see how cracker Barrel actually does. They probably
did their marketing change for a reason, right, It's.

Speaker 11 (01:59:17):
Not because things were going as great as.

Speaker 18 (01:59:18):
They needed to be. Necessarily, probably because they wanted to grow.
Somebody wanted to turn the corner of somebody's thought. But
we'll see what's happening. I'm not gonna lose a whole
lot of sleep over them one way or the other. Uh,
you know, let's switch gears and keep it moving forward.
Things are still changing around you, regardless of what you
put on, the regardless of whether you've got the white
guy on the barrel on the wall.

Speaker 11 (01:59:38):
Things are changing. And that's just where it is.

Speaker 1 (01:59:43):
I literally don't give a damn stop cracker barrel logo.

Speaker 11 (01:59:51):
Right, yeah, I'm gonna do with you.

Speaker 17 (01:59:54):
I was gonna say cracker barrel, cracker barrel, cracker barrel,
all those.

Speaker 7 (01:59:57):
Millions of time.

Speaker 11 (02:00:02):
Yeah, yeah, you know, cracker. You know that words a
little bit of a turn off. Dare I say?

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
You know?

Speaker 11 (02:00:08):
So maybe I go somewhere else.

Speaker 1 (02:00:10):
Anyway, most go, would you coming?

Speaker 17 (02:00:18):
I already said what I had to say, cracker barrel,
cracker barrel, cracker barrel.

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
So it's just I'm I'm I'm gonna go Chris rock. Oh,
crack crack crack, cracker barrel. All right, y'all controller of
the jock that y'all get. I saw I saw these
three different takes of the cracker barrel logo. Oh my god,
I thought it was hilarious. I'm gonna start with the

(02:00:43):
wilffle House one first. Uh, so let me know when
y'all got the waffle house. Uh. These three are hilarious, y'all.
I saw them, and I said, and again, I don't
give two ships. I don't give one. I don't give
a point five. So this I thought was pretty cool.
Waffle house, waffle house, we throw hands. So I thought

(02:01:08):
that was a pretty good one, right there. Let's see
show the next one, release the files. I thought that
one was pretty good. Uh. And the last one, y'all,
because remember these logos were removed and the white folks

(02:01:28):
been so mad. So the black Ben on the cream
of Wheat, ain't Jemima, the Indian woman on Landing Lakes,
and Uncle Ben? Uh it did?

Speaker 28 (02:01:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
It says welcome Cracker just coming and say Hi, I'm
a head back now. Oh my goodness, that was that
one was just too funny. Yeah, that one was just
too funny. Uh and uh, there we go, My goodness,
my goodness, my goodness. All right, y'all, that is it
for us. Let me let me thank Joe, let me

(02:01:58):
think Randy, let me think we stole for being on
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