Trump Threatens Layoffs in GOP Shutdown, Troops in Cities, Bad Bunny Super Bowl Political Fight

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
To That's Thursday, October second, twenty twenty five, coming up
a rolling man on Fifth streetment live on a back
starting network. Man in Virginia talking about a freaking dicky
lieutenant governor on the Republican side. Democrats are calling for
the Republican lieutenant governor nominee John Reid to resign pull
out of the race after he was tied to a

(00:29):
Tumblr blog that reposted Nazi themeed pornography and violent sexual content. Damn, bruh.
Trump spiritual advisor Robert Morris. You know that pastor in
Texas who Trump was kicking it with. Yeah, he he

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played guilty. Today He's going to prison for six months
because he had sex. Man twelve yard girl? What is
up with the Party of Family Values? Day two? The
Republican led governments shut down. Federal workers can start receiving
termination letters as soon as tomorrow. Damn, can we fire Trump?
An organization that suing MAGA folks over the threat of

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mass federal layoffs. Federal troops have now been deployed to
Democrat led cities, including Memphis. You've got ice folks in Chicago.
We'll hear from two reporters at a black owned news
out in Chicago covering the militarization on the ground since
the announcement of Bad Bunny headline of the twenty twenty
six Super Bowl. They're reports that ICE will have a

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huge presence at the game, like whatever. Plus, it's a
new program being piloted in cities with proven strategies that
have already cut shootings for up to seventy percent. We'll
talk to leaders behind the initiative. Man, there's lots we
got to talk about. So it's time to bring the
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Speaker 1 (02:34):
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Speaker 6 (02:36):
Marte. No Marte.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
House Immocrant leader Hakim Jeffrey stood on the Capitol steps
today reiterating how damn is remain in DC to save
healthcare for Americans.

Speaker 7 (03:01):
This is day two of Donald Trump's shut down, but
it is day two hundred and fifty six of the
chaos that the Trump presidency has unleashed on the American peaking.
Republicans have shut the government down because they don't want
to provide healthcare to working class Americans. House Democrats continue

(03:26):
to be here on duty. House Republicans are on vacation.
We are ready, we are willing, We are able to
sit down with anyone, anytime, any place, including the President
and the Vice President, to try to find a path
forward to reopen the government and act a spending agreement
that actually meets the needs of the American people while

(03:47):
at the same time addressing the Republican health care crisis. Unfortunately,
Republicans have shown zero interests in even having a conversation.
After the White House meeting on Monday, We've seen behavior
by the President that is unseerious and unhinged, and Leadershimer

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and myself having gotten a single phone call as it
relates to a follow up conversation. We're ready to have
that conversation, but we need credible partners on the other
side of the isle, and Donald Trump and Republicans have
made clear they wanted to shut down the government. They

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want to inflict pain on the American people. They continue
to engage in their retribution efforts, and they have zero interest,
zero in providing high quality, affordable and accessible care to
every day Americans.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Well, Trump mccor said, a shutdown result in mass federal layoffs.
He's really been waiting for this. In response to the
American Federation of Government Employees and the American Federation of
State count and this employees absent me, they found a
lawsuit challenging the Trump administration's threats. The suit claims the
Office of Management and Budget violated the law by threatening

(05:13):
mass terminations. Katie Fangan senior advisor with the Democracy Defenders Fund.
She also is with the Persist Network. Okay, Nola, calm
down now, Yah, y'all know gumbo Queen. Y'all know gumbo Queen.
Nola Haynes is also on the Persist Network. So she
sends me one more damn text message like, oh my god,
it's up great that Katie's gonna be able to show tonight.

(05:34):
Oh my god, oh my god. Okay, all right, so
let's get right to it. So first and foremost, Katie,
these these these nitwits literally tried to order federal employees
to change their signature line to say, oh, we're not
at work because the Democrats are the cause for this.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Well, that was whack.

Speaker 8 (05:57):
And what's going on is that's a whole other Hatch
Act violation moments. That's also a violation of other federal
statutes to basically just have partisan hackery and forcing all
of these federal agencies.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
To These are the out of office emails roll in.

Speaker 8 (06:14):
These are the replies that you get if you email
a government employee right now during the shutdown, and they're
blaming the Democrats, which just goes to show how desperate,
how desperate the Republicans are.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
But the Hatch Act violation's totally different than what we're
seeing now.

Speaker 8 (06:28):
We just saw Donald Trump post today on truth Social
that this is the Project twenty twenty five blueprint being met.

Speaker 3 (06:36):
This idea that if you have.

Speaker 8 (06:38):
An agency, a program, a federal program that is no
longer funded, and that is because of Congress not being
able to continue appropriations and funding.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
Now Donald Trump is.

Speaker 8 (06:51):
Saying, with the help of Russell Vote, one of his lackeys,
that you know what, if it doesn't meet with one
of my priorities, I can kick it can and get
rid of it. And so it's not only just federal
employees that are either working without getting paid or have
been furloughed without money until we get the shutdown over. Now,

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while they're out, they're not going to get their jobs back,
and that is the reason why we at Democracy Defender's Fund,
along with some incredible other Polish partners like Democracy Democracy
Forward and another incredible law firm out in California, we
filed this lawsuit on September thirtieth because we saw the

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writing on the wall. They're not subtle, right, they tell
you exactly what they're going to do. There's a memorandum
I want to cite to Roland that was issued that said,
if it is an unfunded federal program, we consider it
to no longer be statutorily required to be carried out.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
There's no authority for that.

Speaker 8 (07:50):
And then on September twenty eighth, they issued new guidance
for the shutdown saying that guess what, we're going to
pay people to fire people during the show down.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
That's how gross they are.

Speaker 1 (08:01):
About this, listen, I mean, you're dealing with people to
your point by Russell Vought. Donald Trump claimed in the
election that, oh my god, I know nothing about Project
Tween twenty five. Then of course he posts today about
how Russell vot is from Project twenty twenty five fame.
We all knew he was lying, and people like Nora
o'donald sho be apologizing the Vice President Kamala Harris who

(08:24):
challenge her on those points, and we all knew he
was lying the moment he said he knew nothing about
Product twenty twenty five, we knew he was lying.

Speaker 8 (08:34):
Yeah, And you know, that is a huge issue when
it comes to if I may take the privilege of
this to say, mainstream media has failed Americans time and
time again, because if you don't push back and demand
accountability for answers that are provided from the Oval Office,
from the federal government, then you're just.

Speaker 3 (08:54):
Complicit in the lies.

Speaker 8 (08:56):
And if you are in mainstream media, because remember they're
really the only people that are continuing to get access
to this administration, they're not giving people like me and
you access right to be able to challenge them, cross
exam of them, get to the answers. There should be
coordination then in mainstream media and legacy media to make
sure that if a question is posed to Trump, that

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that convicted felon has to answer the damn question, and
it should be.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
Follow up upon follow ups.

Speaker 8 (09:22):
Say, my colleague Roland Martin just asked you this question,
President Trump, and you didn't answer it. But because you
don't have the accountability, you just let the lies filter
to the American people. And right now, when you have
federal agencies who landing pages on the internet blame Democrats
alleging that we're trying to give free healthcare to quote

(09:44):
illegal immigrants, and you're not checking that at the door,
then you are complicit in the lies.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
And what we're dealing with. We're dealing with people. They
don't care about federal workers. They're threatening these firings. They're
claiming that, oh, we're just going to we folks out,
and Eric Erickson is life. Oh great, we could speep
out these Democrat bureaucrats and we can bring in vendit
MAGA people.

Speaker 8 (10:10):
Yeah, and we saw how well that worked at the
beginning of twenty twenty five. Did we not remember DOGE
was supposed to root out quote fraud, waste, and abuse
and that ended up in the crapper. So when it
comes to this specifically, this lawsuit is going to force
them not only to have to disclose communications correspondence, planning,
and plotting. But it also says, look, you have to

(10:32):
follow the law because remember, one of the last places
we're able to hold people and hold truth to account
and power to account is in court. We're getting some
successful rulings in court. And when we filed this lawsuit,
the idea was to make sure that we said, you
don't have the federal statute, you don't have the federal authority,
you don't have anything that allows you to wholesale do

(10:55):
a reduction in force a riff during a government shutdown.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Remember this is an emergency.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
Shutdown that was based on a lapsing of appropriations and funding.
This is congressional action or in action, based upon how
you look at it. This is not a planned organizational change,
which is what a reduction enforce happens within right, the
framework of a riff is usually it's a planned organizational change.
In this instance, the money has run out.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
But Trump and.

Speaker 8 (11:24):
Vote and all these other people in the Trump administration
are trying to use the shutdown as cover to do
illegal firings of federal employees. And these are people rolling
that are keeping the wheels going, right, They're keeping the
wheels on the train. They're making sure that things get done.
And these are the people that we need to protect
the most at this time.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
And let's be clear what these people are doing, and
the Supreme Court is letting them. They're just deciding, Yeah, yeah,
New York City, New York State, we're not going to
send you eighteen billion in transit funding because we believe
that your DEI plans are on constitutional. Hey Atlanta, yeah,

(12:04):
you're not going to get thirty seven million dollars because
you got DEI programs. Oh, all you Blue states, you
can forget the eight billion dollars because you get the
Green New Deal scan when the Green New Deal was
never passed because it deals with infrastructure and climate change.
They they're operating as if they can do whatever they want.
And this is where the courts have to have the

(12:26):
gust to say no, you can't. You're not a king.

Speaker 8 (12:31):
And we've been seeing the lower courts, from the trial courts,
district courts, to the appellate courts. They're the ones that
have been carrying the burden of making sure that the
rule of law is still respected. It is Scotus and
the uber conservative majority on Scotus that is creating the
challenges that we are seeing right now when it comes to,
for example, foreign aid that was already appropriated and earmarked

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by Congress.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Scotus is allowing the President of the United States and
now say I'm going to freeze that fundation in the meanwhile.

Speaker 8 (13:01):
And what happens all of that soft power that the
United States can exercise globally. It ends up dissipating and
we end up being more of a laughingstock on the
global stage. But what's important to remember here is if
we don't continue to believe in the rule of law,
then we have no laws. The body politic is dysfunctional

(13:21):
right now. That's part of the reason why Senate Democrats
have said, you know what, we're going to hold the
line and we're not going.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
To continue to feed the beast.

Speaker 8 (13:29):
We have to remember while this is going on, though,
if these quote programs are not meeting with the priorities
of the administration, what the heck is that it's intentionally vague,
it's illegally vague. But you just reeled it off, didn't you.
If it touches DEI, if it deemed to be quote woke,
then clearly they're going to say it doesn't meet with

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the priorities of the administration, and so they're going to
kick those programs and these are going to be so
many people that are impacted. But here's the funny thing, right,
Rule America. When it comes to Trump's big bullshit bill,
Rule America and Republican jurisdictions and Republican states, they're going
to feel it just as hard, if not harder, than
some of these blue states, because a lot of these

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blue states have been taking care of their residents, right,
And so it's not just the government shutdown, it's a
double whammy at the hands of the Republicans. It's the
big bullshit Bill and now the government shutdown.

Speaker 1 (14:22):
Well to be it's just just beyond laughable to watch
this reaction and then they act like they can't do anything.
But I thought you could control all lovers of the government.

Speaker 3 (14:33):
That's right.

Speaker 8 (14:34):
I call it a political power trifecta. They control the
White House, the Senate, and the House. So why would
Senate Democrats fund their own irrelevancy If one, Congress is
not going to be able to respect that it deserves as.

Speaker 3 (14:48):
A coegal branch of government.

Speaker 8 (14:50):
And two, if the Republicans have such a spectacular agenda
that is so amazing, then of course you would see
people signing on, you would see popularity of our president.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Be out of skywalking right now.

Speaker 9 (15:02):
But it's not.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
He has some of the lowest approval ratings that exist.

Speaker 8 (15:05):
And we know that Republicans right now are going to
have to face their constituents who are going to do
amanding answers as to one. Y'all are getting paid right now.
Members of Congress are getting paid right now. That's why
people like Senator Andy Kim saying I'll take a dollar
and take my salary and I'll give it back to
the government so people can have money right now.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
We need to also dig in deep and we need to.

Speaker 8 (15:26):
Make sure that we are there for our community members,
for people that are impacted by this shutdown.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
We saw in the last shutdown.

Speaker 8 (15:33):
I just spoke to former Senator Doug Jones from the
state of Alabama Rowland. He said, in the last shutdown,
he saw federal employees standing in lines at food banks.
We need to make sure that we steal ourselves and
we stand in solidarity and we help take care of
people that are impacted by this shutdown.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
So I discussed this yesterday and I think it still
has to be the case. So with this lawsuit, how
are y'all going to make regular people the face of this?
Because I think the issue that I have is this,
And Gusha William Barber and I talk all the time.
He's always saying big, they got to have impacted people.

(16:13):
You can't have democratic politicians, you can't have lawyers, you
can't have strategies. You need to have people, families. People
need to see real people who are impacted by this,
not politicals. What is your plan to do that moving forward?
After found this lawsuit?

Speaker 8 (16:32):
Well, let's speak bluntly, right, there's the court of law,
there's the court of public opinion. We can ring true
in a court of law. But if you don't feel
the reason behind what we're doing in that court of law,
and if you don't understand what we're up to in
the court of public opinion, then I have failed and
I am what I am tasked to do.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
Roland.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
The plaintiffs in this case, as you reeled off at
the beginning of this segment, they are afl CIO American
Federation of Government Employees.

Speaker 3 (17:01):
These are people that are federal employees.

Speaker 8 (17:04):
They are healthcare workers, they are sanitation workers, they are
childcare providers, they are people that are making this country run,
and they are the people that are under the gun
right now of potentially being fired by this horrific, draconian,
disgusting Trump administration.

Speaker 3 (17:23):
And so they are the face of this lawsuit.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
I may be here to explain the legalities, I may
be here to advocate for why these are important lawsuits
to bring, but ultimately they are the reason behind why
we do this work.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Absolutely, I'm gonna go about panel for a series of
questions joining us right now. Recent Cobert host, recent Cobet
show out of Washington, d C, serious X and radios
recent wors your questions.

Speaker 10 (17:51):
Oh, I didn't know he was doing questions.

Speaker 1 (17:53):
Hi, can you knowing questions? Because I said we need.

Speaker 10 (17:57):
A comment take.

Speaker 11 (17:57):
But that's like I got a question for Katie. Okay, Katie,
So you know I'm wondering, you know how has and
this isn't about the lawsuit, but you and Nola are
obviously both on the persistent network. How have what's your
read on how the Democrats on the Hill have been
activating all facets of alternative media, including the mainstream media

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and social media. Because I've seen their social media presence,
but I still feel like they haven't left. They're not
in a no stone left unturned kind of mode, and
they're starting to get out gunned in this you know,
messaging war with their Hatch Acts violation. So I'm just
curious about your level of engagement or your read on that.

Speaker 8 (18:42):
Yeah, look, I have to I can't speak in generalizations, right,
I'm going to be very blunt. I think that there
has been an incredible lionization of members of Congress.

Speaker 3 (18:51):
That's not fair meeting.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
I don't really think that they should have celebrity status
the way that some of them have. There's a handful
of them that have realized that independent media is really
the front on tier to be why, because we have
a huge reach and impact.

Speaker 3 (19:04):
Some of them have figured out that digital.

Speaker 8 (19:07):
And social media, that those are the places they need
to be waging a war when it comes to public opinion.
Some of them haven't, And part of that is also
because they're still married to the idea that traditional legacy
mainstream media is the only way to reach certain people.

Speaker 3 (19:20):
But that's the point.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
It only reaches certain people, it doesn't reach the people
and all people. And so I got to be honest.
I would give them a grade of about a C
minus right now. But some of them have been very
good about reaching out and having conversations and doing interviews
and doing you know, duets on Insta and TikTok. But
otherwise they're a little deficient I.

Speaker 3 (19:42):
Think at this point.

Speaker 1 (19:45):
Shit, okay, okay, be honest. I'm being honest, but it
is my point. This is how basic this is.

Speaker 9 (19:53):
Okay, so.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
Shut down Wednesday twelve one am.

Speaker 3 (20:00):
You knew it was coming.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
This is just rolling. Roland would have had a sheet
that said, these are the five people who are available
from five to six am, six to seven, seven to eight,
eight to nine to eleven. I would have said, I,
media folk, this who we've got available from five am

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all the way to midnight. And then the next day
same thing. Oh how about this here? And you know what,
that's fine. Wednesday we had Democratic leader how King Jeffries
on the show. Not a problem. Could today's Thursday? Who
did the Democrats offer up to come on our show tonight?

Speaker 3 (20:54):
I'm looking.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
Nobody. Nobody that the point, right, Okay, you knew that's
kind of dumb. That's kind of dumb to me. What's
your strategy? Every single day, every single How are you
driving home your point every single day? Oh, by the way,

(21:17):
we sent an email. Let me just double check to
see before I go to Zachary, let me just double
check and see if there's a response that came in. No,
we sent an I personally sent an email on yesterday
asking for Senator Chuck Schumer to come on this show.

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When was the last time Senator Chuck Schumer came on
Roland Martin Unfiltered? October twenty ninth, twenty twenty. Shut up
really October twenty ninth, twenty and twenty. Now we've asked
every year since twenty twenty. Now, last I checked, I

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don't know of any other daily news show that targets
African Americans other than this one. I don't know. I
would think that you might. Okay, sure they have a
little off the record pen and pad Nah come on
the show. But see again, this is what's stupid to me.

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So I just don't understand what the hell they're doing.
And I ain't like I haven't text them, but they
should be for independent shows flooding the zone, offering up
countless people to have as guest. Katie. It's kind of
basic to me.

Speaker 8 (22:43):
You don't have to have a background and calms to
be able to know that that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
It's called flood the zone.

Speaker 8 (22:49):
It's the only way to combat the ecosystem that's been
built effectively over years. We are behind the eight ball
when it comes to communications messaging when it comes to
the Democrats.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
I'll give you a really quick anecdotal example.

Speaker 8 (23:01):
You know, there's a guy that went to trial in
federal court here in Florida for allegedly attempting to assassinate
Donald Trump on the golf course mar A Lago right
over there. And did you know that Fox News sent
sixteen people to cover that trial every single day? Why
because it fits the narrative of what they're trying to

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promote and pedal. Right, did you know that there was
very little coverage from other stations, networks, etc.

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Look, I don't want to amplify.

Speaker 8 (23:33):
Anything that deals with the convicted felon, but here's the thing.
When it comes to something like this that directly impacts
all Americans, regardless of political affiliation, then you have to
get ahead of what you know is going to be
coming down the pipeline. It was no secret they were
going to be accusing Democrats falsely of giving free health.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
Care to illegal immigrants.

Speaker 8 (23:53):
They are using immigration as the boogeyman to be able
to justify federalizing cities, going in and bringing in the
national guard, bringing in the military, continue a campaign of
intimidation and fear. This lawsuit combats that same concept. Let
me cow you into submission, let me make you scared
in the thinking that if you don't follow the party line,
you're going to get your ass fired. That is completely

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consistent and on brand with who they are.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Here's the thing that's absurd about it. They are so unriginal.

Speaker 8 (24:23):
There is nothing original about what they do and how
they roll it out. The only impressive thing rolling is,
and I will admit it, they've done it a lot faster,
a lot more efficiently, and a lot more powerfully, and
a shorter window of time than I anticipated from them. Otherwise,
we all knew that this was going to happen.

Speaker 9 (24:43):
Zach Y.

Speaker 12 (24:45):
Agree one hundred and twenty nine percent.

Speaker 13 (24:48):
Katie, it's great to have a chance of dialogue with you,
and great see my friends doctor Nola and Recie, who
I know is having a birthday soon. The prettiest libritt
in the world. The gifts of penis always beauty children.
You know, my question is, really, you know, when we
look at this shut down, we look at what's happening,
what do you think will be the harshest, most immediate
effects on American families.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
Wick the nutritional supplements that are provided to women, infants,
nursing formula that's gone in less than a week. That's
nearly seven million people that are impacted when WICK is gone.
That I think is going to be the harshest thing
that we're going to feel in America in the most

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immediate sens.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
Is why, Because remember I talked about that double whammy.

Speaker 8 (25:34):
A lot of that big bullshit bill impact is not
going to be felt in a huge way. American farmers
are seeing it a little bit, that's a little bit
more terrif related, but a lot of that big bullshit
bill stuff is not going to be really felt until
twenty twenty six. This shutdown is going to take a
little bit of time. People are going to feel more
of an inconvenience at the beginning, but things like WICK
being gone, forget it, man, that's a lot of money

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and it's gone.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
All right. I mean, I guess I'm letting no ask
a question. I guess I guess I'll let her ask
a question.

Speaker 5 (26:07):
Lord Katie, the stuff I gotta go through.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
With this, man, I'm just I'm just glad you Wi
Fi worked this week.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
I'm going to be so and I'm.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
Just I'm just glad that I don't meet this week.
So the little blessing, I'm about to get real colored
right now, Roland, the little blessings, Praise the Lord. Thank
you Jesus, thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (26:28):
Yes, and Lord ask our guests. Katie, thank you so
much for being here tonight.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
The one thing that when I was reading through the
when I was reading through the case, you know, I'm
sitting there and I'm reading it and I'm getting it
and I'm feeling it, and you know, as an ex
government employee, I'm appreciative in many ways that this is happening.

Speaker 5 (26:51):
But then I think about the Supreme Court. And when
I think.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
About the Supreme Court, you know, the kind of air
beneath my.

Speaker 5 (27:00):
Wings kind of deflate very quickly. So how is the.

Speaker 2 (27:05):
Legal community thinking about this current Supreme Court and how
many times they actually give Trump what they want? And
could this be one of those times? And if so
what happens, what happens next?

Speaker 3 (27:22):
Yes, I'm not gonna be sdu right. You have to
prepare for the worst.

Speaker 8 (27:27):
And part of what's frustrating is the Supreme Court, in
an unprecedented manner, has been taking these quote emergency applications
on the shadow docket and doing it doing so at
rates that have never been seen before.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
And when they issue.

Speaker 8 (27:40):
Their rulings on the shadow docket, several of which have
been bad adverse impacts on Americans, they do it without
any explanation, and so it kind of leaves the lower
courts to have to guess how they're supposed to be
able to move forward because a lot of these rulings
that come on the shadow docket, they're not substantive rulings
on the merits of the case.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
The more the temporary stays, the junctions, et cetera.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
So when we file these lawsuits, we have to anticipate
the worst from Scotus.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
But I always want to remind.

Speaker 8 (28:07):
Myself saying that was one of my late father's favorites
and one that I like to use, which is how
do you eat an elephant?

Speaker 3 (28:13):
One bite at a time.

Speaker 8 (28:15):
If we don't continue to persevere, if we're not relentless
in pursuing justice and defending and pursuing the rule of law,
then we've failed everyone. And we can allow ourselves to
not take these lawsuits, challenge this administration, and go to
court and fight for people, especially Americans and our federal employees,

(28:36):
simply because we think that we could get an average
ruling from the Supreme Court of the United States down
the road. I will bet my bottom dotta if we
get something good from this case, it'll go on an
emergency application to the Supreme Court of the United States.

Speaker 3 (28:50):
Right, But I can't worry about that right now.

Speaker 8 (28:53):
I can plan, I can strategize, I can gain it out,
I can figure out that that's a possibility.

Speaker 3 (28:59):
But I got a look get it as in, we
are only pursuing what we can and that's right.

Speaker 8 (29:04):
And just because look, we have to be on the
right set of history on this when people later on
look and see what did you do during this time,
I can't say that we just stood on the sidelines
and did nothing.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Absolutely all right, Kenny Fang, I appreciate you joining us
tfolks where they can check out your show.

Speaker 3 (29:22):
Oh that's so kind of you.

Speaker 8 (29:24):
So I am on youtubet at Katie Fang News. I
also do this great segment called wait a damn Minute
on the Persist Network, where doctor Nola Haynes also has
her program. Yeah you mention her, to mention her, Oh,
I will always, I will always pitch her. Look at
Nola and I'm on at Katie Fang. That's pH Ang

(29:45):
on all social media. But I appreciate the privilege of
y'all's time into all of the people that are tuning in.
It really is an honor to be able to spend
some time with you guys tonight.

Speaker 1 (29:55):
Glad to have you here. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot,
Bye y'all, folks. He said, Hey, go to break, we
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Speaker 1 (31:36):
What's up is the m CEO Tyler Quality? You are
checking out Roland Martin Unfiltered. All right, now it's time
for a freakier's portion of a show. A pornographic blog

(31:58):
linked to Virginia Lieutenant Governor candidate Republican Lieutenant Governor candidate
John Reid shared content from accounts that deal into Nazism
and sexual violence. Read has denied owning the blog, which
appeared on Tumblr under the name jr. Doe the eux,

(32:20):
the same handle he happens to use on Instagram, and
TikTok recalled the blog part of a cordated smear campaign
against him for being a gay Republican. But it's post
day back to twenty fourteen, before he entered politics, and
one twenty fifteen post, Jr. Doe shared an image of

(32:44):
a male college student in underwear from the user obedient Niggard,
whose bio described themselves as a subservient nigger who knows
his place in society and solicited contact from quote superior
white men in Washington, DC. That account is also posted
images of men with white supremacist tattoos, including a coast

(33:06):
close up of a chest inked with a swastika and
caption fucking nice WP inc M eighty eight. WP stands
for a white power eighty eight. It's Neil Nazi code
for how hitler. Well. Democrats are obviously hitting him, saying
that he should step aside in the race. They also

(33:28):
are demanding that Virginia Governor Glenn Younkin addressed this issue
as well, and so we'll see if they are. Of course,
they're gonna abide by what Virginia Democrats are demanding. But yeah,
so this was done by the American Journal. They did
an investigation linking him to this accounts. But see this,

(33:51):
this ain't just that. Let's go to Wisconsin. Did y'all
hear what happened in Wisconsin? So in Wisconsin, the candidate
running for governor drops out and you may say, okay, well,
you know people drop out for different reasons. Well, things

(34:15):
guy a little funky in Wisconsin because the family values candidate,
Bill Barrio, was a manufacturing executive former Navy seal, dropped
out after the blocking website. Medium said that he followed

(34:36):
a transgender adult film star named Jizz Lee in office
of sexually explicit essays, including it was that polymory, is
that what is called polyamory? Whatever it was called? Okay,
all right, now Homie doesn't delete his Medium account ever
since he went ahead dropped out quote looking towards what

(35:02):
is in the best interests of the party, voters, donors
in my family, I've decided to end my campaign. Hm
Okay Buried told the Associated Press that the media focused
on quote stupid articles I read years ago and had
painted a salacious and sensational picture that was clearly targeted

(35:24):
to force me out of this governor's race. It was
a major attack piece. He goes and for what reading?
Nothing illegal, nothing unethical, and nothing immoral. Receie, just reading.

Speaker 9 (35:44):
Wouldn't you want.

Speaker 1 (35:45):
Your political and business leaders and all of society frankly
to be widely read and thoughtful and aware of different
perspectives and ideas. Really you really gonna try that one?

(36:06):
I want to be well read? Is that what we're doing?
Is that really what we're doing? So, since we're end
up freaky as part of the show, let's now go
to Texas where mega church pastor Donald Trump spiritual advising

(36:27):
Robert Morris Homydom planned guilty to sexually abusing a child
accrn NBC under a plea agreement. Morris was given a
ten year sentence, but he's only going to serve six
months and in Oklahoma jail. That's right. Uh huh. Look

(36:50):
at this here, look at the photo of Morris in handcuffs.
Bet that ain't the first time he been in cuffs.
So the article read, so morrisons sixty four years old,
and this happened when he sexually abused the girl in

(37:12):
the nineteen eighties. And so we read the articles. So
you see right here, this woman, Cindy Plemourgshire, she accused
Morrison molested her when she was twelve years old. She
actually was in the court room surrounded by family, and
Morris actually accept the responsibility. I remember they were running

(37:32):
from this now, y'all. Oh my goodness. He found a
Gateway church in two thousand. It's in South Lake, Oh.

Speaker 11 (37:39):
Man.

Speaker 1 (37:40):
Is so many white conservatives go there. They are hugely
They are all maga bag of maga, maga maga, And boy,
ain't this something? I mean, my goodness. Recent we got
the sexual abusing pastor in Texas, we got the nazi
freak in Virginia, we got the super freak in Wisconsin. Man,

(38:02):
that's a trifecta for the Party of Family Values.

Speaker 11 (38:06):
Yeah, it's a bunch of nasty ass motherfuckers and supremini
y'all nasty, y'all nasty as fuck, and that past So
what part of the Bible is that you gonna burn
in hell?

Speaker 10 (38:22):
How about that?

Speaker 11 (38:22):
Okay, you might get six months in jail, but you're
burning in hell for eternity for doing that shit to
motherfucker kids.

Speaker 10 (38:29):
This is crazy.

Speaker 11 (38:30):
The guy talking about well read y'all are a party
of book banding. Last I checked. So y'all don't give
a damn by being world read. Y'all don't give it
damn by learning. So you was looking at that shit
because you're a freaky, dicky, nasty ass motherfucker. So don't
try to sit up there and gas like us that
this is some sort of open minded exploratory reading assignment. No,
because y'all don't like people to read about anything other

(38:51):
than white crystal nationalists propaganda. So I'm not buying it.
But this is who this party is. Was it Lindsey
Graham who just the other day was saying that we
should be nice at the pad of House?

Speaker 10 (39:01):
Wasn't it one of them who said something like that,
y'all remember remember crew, Yeah, it's all tracks. This tracks.

Speaker 11 (39:11):
Look at who the who, look at who the secretary
of Defense is, look at who the president is.

Speaker 10 (39:16):
Look at who all of these people are.

Speaker 11 (39:18):
It's it's it's a feature, not a bug to be
a degenerate and to be into some freaky dicky ship.

Speaker 10 (39:24):
That is quite crazy, Ezachary.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
They love they love trash and Democrats talking about y'all
love drag folks at libraries and all kinds of stuff.
Oh just in case. Hey, here's Robert Morris with Donnie Junior.
Check this out. Here's Robert Morris, Eric Trump Boy.

Speaker 13 (39:54):
Take it down. Take it down. The people don't want
see that. This lady is dinner time in America. People
are trying to watch the show rep for dinner, eating dinner.

Speaker 6 (40:06):
Take it down.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
These are I'm gonna show this one too.

Speaker 10 (40:10):
Oh, here we go, twinsies.

Speaker 12 (40:17):
These are the generous who are deflecting.

Speaker 13 (40:19):
Release the Epstein files, Release the Epstein files, Release the files.

Speaker 12 (40:25):
You know what, the vast majority.

Speaker 13 (40:27):
Of MAGA are not going to in any way change
their minds, change your hearts, or change their allegiances to
these people, because they are a part of a movement
and all of these values that are real, like what
you just talked about, are ingrad and a part of
that movement. But there are a few people who will,
because they're learning these things, possibly possibly err on the

(40:48):
side of human decency and turn against the foolishness that
these people represent and that they stand for. You know,
when you talked about these three instances, criminality, criminal behavior
against more than freaky d it's criminal. What that passage
did is.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
From criminal she was twelve?

Speaker 12 (41:10):
How many more?

Speaker 13 (41:11):
But what I'm exceptionally concerned about that. But even also
except this is keep it real. Now what was the
black man's name? Uh, we're playing around with mister Republican
in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
Well not here deal no reed read read said hideadal.
Reid says it's not true. He says, no, no, no, no, hold
hold no, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold
on wait wait, wait going it. Reid says the story
is not true. He says the story is false. He
says it's malicious. So this was reporter. So I'm stating

(41:45):
what he said regarding to the story. But but but
hold hold hold, but before you go there, I do
want to do this here because I started. I saw
this great compilation of Morris out of Texas, and I'm like,
oh god, I gotta play this, watch this.

Speaker 5 (42:00):
Oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
It's the best way for me to come clean.

Speaker 18 (42:05):
It has taken years for me to get over the
images and the things that I saw that no person
should have ever seen. Are y'all hearing me right? Why
was it so easy for me? You learned how to lie?
I was very, very involved in sexual immorality for many,
many years, and I will.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Plow longer than what you expected.

Speaker 18 (42:23):
It's easy for me to say, you spell on drugs.
I had this kind of sick feeling and I want
to tell you everything that I've ever done.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
But there's a shame.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
It is twelve unders a child.

Speaker 18 (42:32):
If you're looking at portography on the internet, tell us
and you'll say, what are you bringing that into my field?

Speaker 1 (42:37):
For it?

Speaker 6 (42:37):
It's not right.

Speaker 9 (42:38):
It doesn't look right, it doesn't smell right.

Speaker 18 (42:40):
And so I said to the Lord, I said, well, Lord,
I know that you've declared me not righteous. But I
was a fornicator. And then there were also a couple
of guys allowing Satan to work in that area.

Speaker 6 (42:52):
You have to sneak around to do it.

Speaker 18 (42:53):
I looked for the girls that would be the most susceptible,
dig deeply into your field, much deeper than what you
thought or what you're expected, satisfying an appetite that you create.
Immorality came easy for me. Pornography pre myrtal sat temptation.
I was very immoral, and I was immoral a lot
from a very early age. You Shelby, I was the

(43:15):
guy that involved with the immorality, could meet a girl
and and be immoral the same night.

Speaker 6 (43:21):
You and I know the truth.

Speaker 18 (43:23):
You and I know I really am yet understood that
that was wrong for man to force himself on a woman.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
Great people, great people with a great reputation.

Speaker 6 (43:32):
I have to say that great reputation.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
We're cut Zachary.

Speaker 19 (43:37):
That was cold bloody, shady grow, shady, grow, shady grow.

Speaker 12 (43:43):
Listen the h that you just and then I kept
him that his hair.

Speaker 13 (43:48):
Thank you Jesus for blackness, Thank you Jesus for blackness,
Thank you Jesus for the alleged black man and the
alleged whatever that other guy did the Republic.

Speaker 12 (44:01):
You know, I don't.

Speaker 13 (44:02):
I'm so sick of certain groups infecting our community with
their degeneracy. That's what I wanted to say. Keep that
shit out of our community. Stop embracing it, Stop stop
embracing these people and their perversions.

Speaker 12 (44:16):
So I want to put that PC in.

Speaker 1 (44:19):
Well, I mean, I just you know, I mean, since
I mean again they love Nolah's saying all sorts of things,
and so I mean, you know, we might as well
just share a little bit more video of Robert Morris
truck sharing a stage in twenty twenty has been.

Speaker 18 (44:39):
Incredible in hosting us, and I'd now like to ask
Pastor Morris and Bishop Jackson to lead us in prayer.

Speaker 20 (44:47):
Robert Morris just resigned from his church following allegations that
he sexually abused a child. A statement to an evangelical
news site, Morris said he was in.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Now Here's the crazy thing. What he said with Nola
was he was involved in an inappropriate that's with a
young lady. He never really explained, he called inappropriate sexual
behavior with a young lady. So when that happened, people
were like, Okay, was she eighteen? Was she twenty? And

(45:27):
she was twelve, he was twenty one.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
You know, this is one of the things, one of
the problems that I have with a lot of churches
is it excuses a lot of bad behavior, especially from leaders.

Speaker 5 (45:47):
And that really is a tension that I have. You know,
I have my own baggage.

Speaker 2 (45:52):
I have my own trauma growing up Catholic, you know,
going to a school where priests was actively molesting my friends.

Speaker 5 (45:58):
That happened.

Speaker 2 (45:59):
So when it comes to issues like this, and then
when it comes to you know, the way in which
the institution can rally around you can make it seem
like those horrific and horrible criminal acts where somehow just
you know, they were just sinful and you know, flesh

(46:22):
is weak and all of these things. So I really
struggle with the idea of forgiveness and then the way
that many churches just kind of ignore criminality, you know,
and this is one of those moments for me, you know,
not to mention that you have all the receipts of
this person, buddy, buddy, all the what, all the Trump world,

(46:45):
none of that is surprising. It almost acts. It almost mimics,
you know, some of the behavior some of these institutions
that completely just ignore and normalize a lot of these
behaviors from these leaders magas. It's the same way, you
know when Hillary Clinton called them deplorables back in the day,
you know, off with her head.

Speaker 5 (47:07):
Sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
But this keeps bearing out, it keeps it keeps showing
up time after time after time, and at some point
that accountability piece. A lot of Christians have to look
inward and ask themselves, what is the difference between criminality
and forgiveness of someone who you know, had bad judgment

(47:28):
or was going through a tough time. In my mind,
those things are too. They're two different issues. And this
is something that all faiths, all institutions have to truly
confront and figure out who is it that they want
to be for their congregants, especially children.

Speaker 5 (47:47):
Not that he was.

Speaker 2 (47:48):
He was in his twenties when this happened, right, So
he wasn't a pastor then?

Speaker 5 (47:53):
Is that?

Speaker 1 (47:54):
No?

Speaker 6 (47:54):
No?

Speaker 1 (47:55):
No, no, no, no he was.

Speaker 10 (47:57):
That's where you say it in his book he was
selling drug.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Yeah yeah, so but hey, first of all, I don't
give a date. I don't care. If he wasn't a pastor,
then the reality is Robert Morris how he told the story.
And this is one of the reason why the church
is like, yeah, you got to go player, is because
he misled them about this.

Speaker 19 (48:18):
Oh no, no, it.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Was inappropriate behavior with a young lady. A twelve year
old girl. Ain't a lady now, a twelve year old girl.
It's a girl. And he knew what he was saying,
and he was full of shit for saying it. Now
what I'm pissed off is his punk ass is only
going to spend six months in jail.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Yeah that's dissed.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Okay, ten year sentence and reduced to six not even
one that's week as hell and I don't care for
happening in the nineteen eighties. Don't matter. Justice is justice,
So that's where that stands. There are y'all mil too
quick break when I come back. Lots of drama in Chicago.

(49:03):
Trump Trump, the Sitnist thugs to Chicago. They are they
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You got Steven Miller, racist ass in Memphis saying to
the cops you are now unleashed to go after all
the thugs in Memphis. These dictators are losing their minds

(49:27):
and yes they're fascist. And what they want to do
is they want to make this a military state. That's
what they want to do, pure and simple. We can
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Speaker 1 (53:18):
All right, folks. Donald Trump's patrol agens have been in Chicago,
walking in packs along Michigan Avenue, where there's just so
much crime happening. They're also monitoring other popular downtown destinations.
Last week, the Department of Homeland Security reported that more
than nine hundred arrests have been made as federal officers
continue to target what the administration describes as the worst

(53:41):
of the worst. In twenty sixteen, filmmaker Morgan Elie Johnson
and journalist Tiffany Walden launched The Tribe That's With two Eyes,
a digital media platform designer reshape the narrative of Black Chicago.
They've been covering the increasing militarization of Chicago. They join
us right now. I'm glad to have both of y'all here,
so uh for the folk have been following, So how

(54:04):
have y'all been covering this on your platform?

Speaker 23 (54:08):
For sure? Thank you for having us on the show, Brolin.

Speaker 17 (54:12):
Since Trump announced in August that he was interested in
sending troops here to increasing the immigration enforcement here in Chicago,
we just hit the ground running and we've been covering
every single day a lot of the ice activity that's
been happening here in Chicago. And it has It started out,

(54:34):
you know, in the surrounding Chicago land area in the suburbs,
and now you know it's in the city and just
this past week it started to reach black Chicago neighborhoods
of South Shore of Bronzeville, And just yesterday on the
West side of Chicago, where we're located, a man was
put in a show code by a federal agent. A

(54:55):
black man in fact, was putting the show cold by
a federal agent here on the West Side. So it's
ramping up every single day here in Chicago, and I
don't think that it's getting the national attention because everyone's.

Speaker 23 (55:07):
So focused on the troops coming here.

Speaker 17 (55:10):
But this is a militarized federal enforcement activity that's happening
here in Chicago, and it's terrorizing all communities, including the
black community.

Speaker 1 (55:20):
This is your website right now. You see it right here.
The story video shows fans choking a black man in
East Garfield Park. The next one, new details emerged surrounding
incident that led to a black man being choked by
the fans of Chicago federal ages again, record observers, others
low older man into so and so y'are really on

(55:40):
top of this? And how have people been responding? Have
you seen an increase in traffic? Are you seeing people
sharing information and really going to all this traffic?

Speaker 17 (55:53):
Has our web traffic has tripled. We're seeing historic numbers
on our website. People are really wanting to know what's
happening in regards to ice and it's militarized force that's
coming to their neighborhoods. And you know, Chicago is a
place where I think a lot of people focus so
much on the city. But the immigration tactic that they're

(56:14):
using here does include the suburbs, and so now you
have suburban residents, volunteers, city organizers. Everybody's working together to
try to be there for each other and support each other.
And you know, for us, we're even talking to people
in LA and d C. We had an LA publication

(56:35):
reach out to US LA Taco to talk about, you know,
the work that we're doing and the collaborative collaborations that
we're doing with other independent media, and the same thing
with with d C. We have a story on our
website right now where organizers are giving advice to Chicago
In's on how to deal with such militarized force in
the city since they've they've been dealing with that already.

(56:57):
So we're seeing a lot of, I hate to say
positive response, but we're just seeing a lot of response
and gratefulness for our coverage here in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
We've seen journalists being targeted as well. Have your journalists
encountered any issues as it relates to being out there reporting.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Well, The Tribe has working with a collaboration of about
ten local independent organizations.

Speaker 5 (57:25):
So although none of our journalists.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
Have been targeted at this time, one journalist who we've
been working with at a publication called Unrivaled was detained
by federal agents at a Broadview Ice detention facility, which
is a couple of miles west of Chicago. So he
was detained while covering the protests there, and journalists here

(57:49):
in the city rally to put out statements and to
put pressure.

Speaker 5 (57:53):
On the government to release him.

Speaker 2 (57:55):
But many people who have been protesting have been detained.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
Who uh.

Speaker 2 (58:01):
And Steve is a white man, so he told us
that there are people are people of color are being detained.
They're not having as good of luck as he had.

Speaker 5 (58:11):
With getting released so quickly. So it's definitely concerning.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
For us and everybody who's been following this about the
safety of journalists because they.

Speaker 5 (58:22):
Have been targeted.

Speaker 17 (58:23):
And Roland I just want to ask to that too.
I went out to Broadview about two weeks ago. I
have family and family in Broadview, Like, I'm very familiar
with the suburb. It's wild to watch what they're doing
to people out there in Bravview.

Speaker 23 (58:36):
I saw my like with my own eyes.

Speaker 17 (58:39):
There's a snipers on the roof of the of the
border of broad View Ice Facility.

Speaker 23 (58:43):
They're shooting people with pepper bullets.

Speaker 17 (58:46):
They intentionally threw a tear gas canister towards h a
clearly marched ABC seven News truck, and you know, the
whole row of media who was in that area, in
that vicinity uh inhald that tear guess and was busily
visibly impacted by it. So it's very aggressive and it's
a very excessive use of force happening out there and

(59:08):
brought you.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Every week them also repelling from black black Hall helicopters
down buildings as well. And so is this happening around
the clock.

Speaker 17 (59:22):
The tactics changed, So I will say in the early
part of this, in September, they were doing early morning raids.
So there was one that got a lot of media
attention that happened in a suburb called Elgin where Christy knowan.

Speaker 23 (59:37):
The CVP. They all came out.

Speaker 17 (59:39):
There, they had all of their you know, militarized outfits
on and they did a raid on a home where
they broke into this home, tore down the doors, and
they actually detained a US citizen before letting them go
hours later.

Speaker 23 (59:53):
Then they kept some other people that they took from
the raid. And so now what you're saying is them
kind of I vitate towards kind of in.

Speaker 17 (01:00:02):
The wee hours of the night and in the evening.
They're doing raids now, like the one in South Shore.
They went to an apartment building in a black neighborhood
and just raided that entire apartment building. I think they
took like thirty seven people in that raid, but there
were children that were zip tied outside. There were black

(01:00:22):
people who were detained during that particular raid. So the
tactics seemed to change every.

Speaker 2 (01:00:27):
Two weeks and Roland, when you think about safety, we
have black people whose homes the doors were knocked off
the hinges, their homes were raided, children were detained and
zip tied, So when we talk about public safety, these
people have to return to their homes without having doors
on the hinges. Like with completely being exposed. People were

(01:00:49):
obtained while undressed, So they really don't have any regard
for the community. Black people certainly didn't ask for this,
and people are outraged.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Broadway, Illinois Police Chief Thomas Mills has been speaking out
angry with how ice officers are talking trashing even local officers.
This is what he said at a news conference.

Speaker 19 (01:01:12):
My name is Thomas Mills. I am the chief of
Police for the Village of brov View. We are and
we are experiencing immediate public safety crisis. The deployment of
tear gas, pepper spray, mace, and rubbel bullets.

Speaker 6 (01:01:27):
By ICE near the.

Speaker 19 (01:01:29):
Processing center in the village of Brovview is creating a
dangerous situation for the community and all first responders. Brow
View residents, police officers, and firefighters, paramedics are being exposed
to these agents. Our own bra View police are routinely
be exposed to ICE tear gas, forcing them out for

(01:01:50):
an amount of time so they can decontaminate, get their breath,
clear their eyes, which takes them out of service.

Speaker 12 (01:01:59):
The use of these weapons is directly harming Brobview's first responders.

Speaker 19 (01:02:04):
Currently, the Brodview Police Department has launched three separate criminal
investigations into ICE activities since the Midway Blitz began in
the Chicago area. We have requested the full cooperation of
the US Department of Homeland Security in these investigations and
we expect that cooperation to have.

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
And what he's been saying is just how they've been treated.
This was another clip, give me one second. I saw
this at a local news report, watched this out.

Speaker 9 (01:02:35):
I was shocked.

Speaker 19 (01:02:36):
I've never been spoken to by a fellow law enforcement
officer in such a way.

Speaker 26 (01:02:40):
We brought you, Police Chief Thomas Mills says, on top
of requiring seventy five percent of his department's manpower for
crowd control outside of the ICE processing facility in the
west suburban city, he was personally verbally attacked by ICE
agents during a protest.

Speaker 19 (01:02:55):
I'm a leader of a department. I know that my
officer is looking at me for guidance and leadership, and
I had to ensure that. You know, I had to
stay calm and not engage in such unprofessional behavior.

Speaker 26 (01:03:08):
Chief Mill says he was walking across a skirmish shaw
on September twelfth, the day this video was shot, he
was called multiple expletives by an ICE agent, calling him
a coward, accusing him of neglecting his duties during protests
that got physical, and it was also telling the I
team about an incident earlier this week where a pedestrian
was hit by a truck near the ICE facility.

Speaker 19 (01:03:28):
Allegedly, a ICE agent struck someone and continued on into
their location and doing a course of that while trying
to gather information there was pepper spray release where my
officers right there. They felt the effects of that pepper
spray with it altered their vision. They were coffeing and

(01:03:49):
I was on the phone with them and they had
to leave the area. So they can decontaminate themselves.

Speaker 1 (01:03:57):
Now, they don't give a damn. Here's what they know.
They know morganifty, they can do whatever they want. Donald
Trump has given them full and complete authority to do
whatever the hell they want to do.

Speaker 17 (01:04:15):
Yeah, and there, and keep in mind that Brodew's mayor
is a black woman. The leadership in broad View is black.
The suburb is predominantly black, black suburb. I believe at
this point it used to be a white suburb. Now
it's black.

Speaker 23 (01:04:30):
So that just further shows the level.

Speaker 17 (01:04:35):
And extent of the attacks that this Trump administration is
willing to put on black leadership and particularly black mayors
across this this country and Roland.

Speaker 2 (01:04:46):
Unchecked power is always an issue, it always can lead
to abuse. So these federal agents are under the directive
of the Trump administration, so they're following order based on
what the Trump administration is requiring or.

Speaker 23 (01:05:05):
Encouraging them to do.

Speaker 2 (01:05:06):
And we know that the leadership out of the White
House is incredibly racist and doesn't really have any regard
for the law. So we shouldn't expect these federal agents
to really have any regard either.

Speaker 17 (01:05:17):
It seems like it's a game to them, to be honest, again,
with our collaboration that we're doing, where we're tracking ICE
activity daily. In one of the stories, there's a video
recording of someone recording ICE doing their enforcement and the
ICE agent looks directly in the camera and says, I
hope you get my good side. So it's like this
is a game, you know, to them that they're you know,

(01:05:41):
acting out whatever it is that that Trump and them
are trying.

Speaker 23 (01:05:43):
To achieve with it, but they have no.

Speaker 17 (01:05:47):
Regards for humanity or respect for people or anything in
the actions that they're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:53):
Questions from the panel, Exactly you First.

Speaker 13 (01:06:01):
My question is, you know, I'm looking at and thinking
about all of my you know, supporters, followers, people out
there on social media who are going to see this
and taking key parts making content around it. You know,
what is the top line message that you want to
get out to the people in terms of how people
in other parts of the country can support Chicago and
the work that you guys are doing well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:21):
So many people are asking us, what can local governments do,
how can we resist, how can we fight back? We
definitely encourage people to lift their voices, spread information, know
their rights, Know that your local government kind of has
their hand tide hands tide. The way that they can
fight back is really in the courts. But when it
comes to the Department of Homeland Security that was created

(01:06:44):
by Congress, it's going to take Acts of Congress in
order to reel this back.

Speaker 23 (01:06:49):
So this is about Republican leadership.

Speaker 2 (01:06:52):
Owning this and these failed policies and their failure to
hold Donald Trump accountable. The only way this stops is
it Donald Trump is removed or buy an Act of Congress,
or if ICE is defunded, and that is all in
the hands of our Congress. So this is about how
do we organize, how do we mobilize people to make

(01:07:12):
sure that there are public officials in place who can
reel back all of this unchecked power that's coming out
of Washington.

Speaker 17 (01:07:20):
And to add to that, for me, a big takeaway
is coming out of yesterday's story regarding the black man
who was putting a choco by the federal agents. You
know there was witness video that you can hear people
in the background saying, you know, he's not an immigrant.
You know, this is y'all only supposed to be choking
Mexicans and things like that. So I think us as

(01:07:42):
a people and also us as a nation, we have
to get out of this mentality of this isn't happening
to us, or that this isn't our fight, this is
everybody's fight, and that if it's not impacting you right now,
is going to unpact you eventually. And I think yesterday
the black community woke up at least this week, starting
with what happened in South Shore. I think there was

(01:08:03):
a homeless shelter in Bronzeville that a black pastor has
been speaking out about, and then now what happened on
the West Side.

Speaker 23 (01:08:09):
People are waking up.

Speaker 17 (01:08:10):
To see that this level of just bruthlessness from the
Trump administration is going to spread outside of the immigrant community.

Speaker 23 (01:08:19):
And I'm seeing people wake up at this point.

Speaker 1 (01:08:22):
Hey, what happened to allowd ass Maga Negro in Chicago,
Chicago Red or whatever has she been running her mouth?

Speaker 23 (01:08:32):
They're celebrating.

Speaker 17 (01:08:34):
They celebrated what happened in South Shore during the raid
at the department building because I believe it. I can't
remember if it was DHS or if it was CVP,
but of one of those agencies came in and said
that they detained thirty seven people. And for them, that's
to win. They're just like, yeah, get these Venezuelans, get
these people up out of here, so they're still around.

Speaker 23 (01:08:59):
For people just know.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Yeah, But I just want to say that that's not
a real movement that has a lot of scene here in.

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
The city of show Oh no, no, no, no, no. I understand,
I know about the movement, but right they make a
whole bunch of noise. But again, these are the folks
who are always attacking Mayor Johnson, always attacking Democrats, claiming
they stand up for black people against so called the invasion.
But I was wondering if they got anything to say

(01:09:25):
about black folks being attacked, being impacted. You talked about
the pastor's been speaking of as Pastor Chris Harris listened
to this right.

Speaker 27 (01:09:35):
Here from Ice and Customs and Borders patrol stormed and
raided our Bronzeville homeless shelter that the City of Chicago
at s our CVC to manage. Their actions traumatized our residents,
unsettled our neighbors, and shook the very staff who sacrificiently
served the two hundred and sixty men and women who

(01:09:56):
called this shelter home. Without warning, seven to eight unmarked
vehicles arrived more than thirty. That's right, thirty armed agents
left out unannounced and began chasing people, human beings who
were merely standing outside of their shelter preparing to head
to work.

Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Now, let me emphasize.

Speaker 27 (01:10:18):
Sixty percent of our immigrant residents are employed and work
every single day. This is actual footage from our security
cameras showing you what this terrifying raid looked like. But
no words can describe what this dehumanizing act felt like.
Some had legal papers and were literally snatched from the streets.

(01:10:42):
I saw it with my own eyes when we handed
one agent the official papers of.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
A legal resident.

Speaker 27 (01:10:49):
The mask agent took the documents, shoved our handcuffed resident
into an unmarked vehicle, and sped off. That helplessness, watching
dignity stripped and lives shattered in seconds is a trauma
that no community should endure, and we must ask, is

(01:11:09):
this activity a rehearsal for something darker, perhaps even martial law.

Speaker 1 (01:11:15):
I get it.

Speaker 27 (01:11:16):
Some say they shouldn't be here illegally. Others feel frustration
that migrants receive resources while so many of our own,
unhoused and unemployed still struggle.

Speaker 1 (01:11:28):
I hear that, I understand that.

Speaker 9 (01:11:31):
But today I'm not asking us.

Speaker 27 (01:11:33):
To debate politics, partisanship, or even the valid tensions that exist.
I'm asking us to consider this. What is the role
of humanity in moments like this? As a faith leader,
I choose to anchor myself with what Micah chapter six.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Verse eight declares.

Speaker 27 (01:11:51):
He has shown you, o mortal, what is good and
what does the Lord require of you? To act justly
and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
This is not about political side. This is about moral responsibility.
Many in our city feel helpless, unsure what to do.

Speaker 9 (01:12:12):
Let me be clear.

Speaker 1 (01:12:13):
We must continue to serve.

Speaker 27 (01:12:14):
We must continue to house, clothe, and feed the more
than two hundred and sixty residents entrust it to us.

Speaker 1 (01:12:21):
No matter what.

Speaker 27 (01:12:22):
But let me be honest, this crisis has made the
work even harder. Some of our residents who were working
will now lose their jobs out of fear for being
seized on their way too or from work, serving this minute,
no love?

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Speaker 11 (01:14:05):
I'm curious how what you've reported in terms of the
aftermath of these raids. We know that these agents are
coming in guns blazing, maybe not shooting people in this
in the literal sense, but knocking down doors, destroying property.
Can you talk a little bit for people out there
who aren't aware of what happens next and what people

(01:14:27):
are left with once these agents leave.

Speaker 17 (01:14:30):
They're trying to rebuild their you know, their homes in
South Shore for example, that apartment building. It's in a community,
a black again, a predominantly black community, where a lot
of people are living, you know, in apartments that are
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(01:14:52):
out there where they are living their own by slum
lords and the conditions of the apartments themselves.

Speaker 23 (01:14:57):
Already we're in bad shape.

Speaker 17 (01:14:59):
So now on top of you know, already having that
tenant fight of trying to have equitable housing, and they
now have to rebuild after iis just cloud through their
living spaces and just left it and complete shamnels. People's
doors are off the hinges. People who had become friends

(01:15:21):
with some of the Venezuelan Venezuelans who lived in that building,
Like now their neighbors are not on, the kids are gone,
are uprooted. So yeah, people are just trying to figure
out how to put the pieces back together. And there's
a lot of organizations in Chicago, rapid response organizations and
different activists on the ground who are speaking with residents

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Ah y'all bad Bundy. Super Bowl spotlight is already turning
political after the NFL announced he'll be headlining the twenty
twenty six halftime show. Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski you know
the one they say has been cheating with Ice, Barbie Christine.
He claimed Ice will have a major presence at the game, saying, quote,
there is nowhere safe for people here illegally, not even

(01:19:44):
the Super Bowl. Bluandowski blasted the NFL for picking in artists.
He claims quote hates America, fueling fresh backlash from maggots.
The Trump administration is targeting Latino fans with aggressive immigration enforcement. Bunny,
a US citizen, siting this call his performance a win
force people, his culture, and his history, setting up a

(01:20:05):
halftime show that will be about more than just music.
First of all, let's just be real clear here, Nola.
It ain't like you're gonna have a whole bunch of
people who are undocumented workers at the super Bowl unless
they're working for a budget of the corp responses.

Speaker 23 (01:20:30):
Facts m hmm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:33):
I mean they're just going to take people just because
they're brown. I mean, that's what's literally going to happen.
You know, when you work events like that, there is
a level of security. You know, people have to be
vetted when people are hired. It's not the situation where
I'm rolling up to home depot on Sunset Boulevard or

(01:20:54):
Hollywood Boulevard looking for somebody to help me, you know,
hang up a.

Speaker 3 (01:20:57):
Portrait, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
So these these are people who are better to work
in that space. So these people are going to pull up,
They're going to cause chaos, and they're just going to
take people. Is what's going to happen, And we've seen
that they don't care about optics. They don't care about
optics because mainstream media probably wouldn't show that anyway. So

(01:21:20):
it's definitely going to be down to independent, independent, independent media,
independent voices, influencers who are there or around, like it's
going to have to be like an alternative media ecosystem
to be able to capture what's about to happen at
this event because Fox News won't show it. But these
people are going to show up and cause chaos.

Speaker 1 (01:21:39):
Where you said, ain't nobody's kid o punk as Corey Landowski.

Speaker 11 (01:21:43):
First of all, Corey Lewin donkey, Puerto Ricans are US citizens, Beach,
I don't know why you didn't learn that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:51):
And yeah, like like where they're gonna get deported.

Speaker 9 (01:21:56):
To Arkansas?

Speaker 5 (01:21:57):
Come on, Lord Jesus somewhere.

Speaker 11 (01:22:04):
And last I checked, I mean I could have swearned
that Donald Trump did better. We're Puerto Ricans and this
past election in New York and New Jersey, So why
that guy beat for Puerto Rico? That don't make any sense.
They're just racist, That's what it bloils down to. But
I think that bad money gonna kill it and if
it triggers Mago, that's even better.

Speaker 10 (01:22:23):
A win is a win for me.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Yeah, I just oh my god, Zachary, I can't believe
I stupidest people are. Yeah, we're gonna be there. We're
gonna be there. So you Puerto Rican show up, we're
gonna We're gonna take your home.

Speaker 13 (01:22:40):
They're definitely not gonna take them home because they're home.

Speaker 12 (01:22:43):
This is showing their ignorance.

Speaker 13 (01:22:45):
Say, honestly, they really don't know that Puerto Ricans are Americans.
These magnizople don't know that. And I think we did
have an increase in Puerto Rican voters in some states,
but in Puerto Rico itself absolutely not. The Puerto Rican
people in Puerto Rico voted overwhelmingly for VP. Listen, this
is a huge milestone for the Super Bowl and for

(01:23:08):
the people and for the culture period. Bat Bunny has
stood up on the right side of history time and
time again, stood up in support of the right trends
in our culture time and time again. And I'm super
excited this man has to pass one hundred million album
sales worldwide. He is one of the top selling artists,
not of the year, not of the decade, but of

(01:23:29):
all fucking time, and he is the greatest and most
acclaimed Latin artist in history. He is the winner of
three Grammy Awards, twelve Black Grammy Awards, eight Billbown Musical Awards,
and must other honors, including being named bill.

Speaker 12 (01:23:41):
Boards Artists of the Year.

Speaker 13 (01:23:42):
However, I do not think he has a bet Award,
and I don't think neither does bea According to Cardi
bat Well, all of that said, this is huge for
the culture, huge with the people, and I cannot wait
to see beneatho A Cassio on the stage. This is
one super bo I'm looking for too. Well, fuck, maggot,

(01:24:04):
you don't deserve to watch it.

Speaker 12 (01:24:05):
If you don't want to watch it, don't watch it.

Speaker 6 (01:24:07):
You would miss out.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
But you don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:24:10):
No. I saw that old, grossly unqualified rat ass NASCAR
driver Danica Patrick. She tweeted, y'all gonna mind paying her
in your ass? All fun? No songs in English should
not be allowed at one of America's highest rated television
events of the year, not just for sports. Okay, let's

(01:24:33):
see here. Okay, you're stupid. Okay, let's be real clear
a Danica Henry, go ahead, but put just get right here,
right here, right here, right here. Okay, Dana, the super

(01:24:55):
Bowl is a football game. The Super Bowl is not
a halftime with the football as a side show. Just
letting you know.

Speaker 9 (01:25:13):
It's a football game. That's what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:25:18):
A game of football. The operative word is game where
we are going to watch somebody, not the Cowboys win.
Now you are familiar, Danna with not winning because your
ass didn't win nothing in NASCAR. You ain't win nothing.

(01:25:44):
You your flat ass didn't win nothing, not ten team
at all. So for you to sit here and go
the game is not just for sports, Yes, it is
because it's a game. That's how ignorant these folks are. Noah,

(01:26:07):
I mean, these folks are just they literally are losing.
They ever loving mind. See they all running around. Why
can't we have a Jason all Dean.

Speaker 9 (01:26:18):
I love this?

Speaker 1 (01:26:18):
Hear nothing now they tweeting. I think Turning Point in
USA should have an alternative, a halftime show. We should
have Creed.

Speaker 10 (01:26:30):
Creed, that's should they should do that.

Speaker 1 (01:26:33):
Now I'm trying to figure hold up, they're gonna have
Apollo Creed? What Creed they gonna have? Ain't nobody watching that? Boy,
guess what I post it. I posted on social I said,
please do your own halftime show and burn that money.
Please burn as much money as you can on y'all

(01:26:55):
sitting here having a holdout because y'all are mad with
bad Bunny no agt ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:27:05):
You know what's so hilarious about this time? I'm gonna
tap into my doctor Greg Carr tonight. The racism is
really racism, like right now, like these are some wild
time and you know the way that they are trying
to like make it seem you know, cozy and Americana.

Speaker 5 (01:27:22):
Oh, I'm just.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
Expressing an opinion. No, you are being blatantly racist time.
You are being and these times are so interesting that
we are living in because it's okay for her to
get up there and say something like, oh great, no English,

(01:27:45):
just completely just taking us a jab. That's so many
people in this country. And again we need to point
out geography class. Where is Puerto Rico, Folks, It is
not in Latin America. I know they think that, right,
but it really isn't. And you know it's I'm giggling

(01:28:05):
right now because yes, I agree, y'all want to go ahead,
and y'all want to produce that show, and then at
the end, we come back and we show receipts, just
like when Jimmy Kimmel was kicked off and then they
were like, oh, you know whatever by Jimmy, and then
the people spoke up and Jimmy's receipts came out the
night when he came back.

Speaker 5 (01:28:25):
So let's go ahead, y'all, go ahead and book Creed.

Speaker 2 (01:28:28):
Let's see what bad Bunny up against Creed with those
two shows, look like, go ahead and do it.

Speaker 5 (01:28:32):
I will actually watch.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
But here's the one that cracks me up. I'm just confused.

Speaker 27 (01:28:38):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:28:40):
Do white folks still eat tacos? Yeah? They Yeah, the
white folks still drink tequila, tear it down.

Speaker 12 (01:28:53):
That's their favorite choice. They think they made it so much.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Yeah, so the white folks bypass forheters. Never So I'm
just trying to understand. I see, I love all these
people who talk about white culture.

Speaker 9 (01:29:12):
What y'all got me loaf?

Speaker 5 (01:29:16):
They don't even know potato sailor.

Speaker 13 (01:29:18):
With raisins, Roland, I have meat love upstairs. I'm gonna
tear up at eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 (01:29:25):
Your ass got melo?

Speaker 5 (01:29:28):
You said at eight o'clock Rowland just low key? Do
you heard that?

Speaker 6 (01:29:30):
Right? At?

Speaker 1 (01:29:32):
Your ass? Got some me? What you got? You got
some white You got some white neighbors.

Speaker 12 (01:29:36):
No, I got it from the soul who spotted out
a quarter.

Speaker 1 (01:29:40):
Oh you have you have seize your meatloaf.

Speaker 11 (01:29:44):
He's saying they can't even claim the meat loft because
black people do meat love.

Speaker 10 (01:29:47):
That's what you try.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
You just can't put a big old piece of meat
in the oven and think it's this is gonna magically
just taste good.

Speaker 1 (01:29:56):
I mean no, no, no, no, no, no, no, will
did you talking about cooking? Stop?

Speaker 11 (01:30:02):
You know what?

Speaker 9 (01:30:03):
Nola?

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Stop?

Speaker 5 (01:30:03):
Just because you haven't had my gumbo?

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Noa, ain't nobody had nola. Ain't nobody had your gumbo?

Speaker 5 (01:30:09):
You're not about to do no.

Speaker 1 (01:30:10):
Ain't nobody had your.

Speaker 5 (01:30:11):
Gumbo out of my kitchen?

Speaker 1 (01:30:13):
No, ain't nobody had your gumbo.

Speaker 5 (01:30:17):
You haven't had my gumbo.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
Ain't nobody had your gumbo?

Speaker 10 (01:30:21):
You haven't had money.

Speaker 1 (01:30:22):
Ain't ain't nobody had your fe?

Speaker 5 (01:30:24):
Nothing better else to do tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
Ain't nobody had your attu fe. Ain't nobody had your jumbo?
Liar talk about white people. Ain't nobody had your Bigne's
ain't nobody had crime? What right? What is that? Anybody?
Ain't nobody had your fried chicken? An'ybody had your bread?
Pud and stop it?

Speaker 5 (01:30:43):
And nobody meaning him?

Speaker 1 (01:30:46):
Nola? You know? Dog on? Will you or the door
dash uber eat queen? Stop it? I am not told
you that anyway. I'm just sick and tired of Lord,
these people getting on my nerves. Do y'all understand that
if black people, Latino people, and Asian people just got

(01:31:15):
up and left America, white folks wouldn't know how to dance,
they wouldn't know, they wouldn't, They wouldn't wouldn't had no
food to eat, they wouldn't, they wouldn't know how to dress.
That it kills me. It kills me recy how they
really act like, uh, they have not benefited from diversity.

Speaker 11 (01:31:44):
Well they know they have, you know, but you just
got people who just a little salty because they ain't
got the seasoning. They ain't got the swag that we
have to be honest though, they got their own little world.
Because I couldn't name three country outside the Beyonce uh
shaboozie and like Tanner and there, I know the black ones,

(01:32:05):
I don't know none of the white ones like that, you.

Speaker 10 (01:32:07):
Know, so they have their own stuff.

Speaker 11 (01:32:09):
I don't know why they got to be mad that
other people have stuff too, because they got the answer.
They got heavy they got heavy metal, and ship they
got mostly country.

Speaker 10 (01:32:19):
So what's the problem. I'm understand people who have everything.

Speaker 11 (01:32:22):
Always so mad that somebody else get a little bit
of a piece of the pot.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
Right, I mean, you know, I understand it, you know.
And I don't think I did anything on this here.
I don't think I did anything on this here. But
did y'all know that them white folks got so mad
at Beyonce that they changed the damn Grammy category?

Speaker 3 (01:32:49):
M M.

Speaker 1 (01:32:50):
Did y'all know that? I mean, they got so mad that,
you know, it's sort you know, lou else sitting door. Also,
little Cream du Jabbari dominated basketball so much they outlawed
dunkin and now you can't dunk. You can't dunk. So
these folk here got so upset that they just changed

(01:33:15):
the rule. Matter. In fact, this is an article in
the Hollywood Reporter, how the Grammar's new Beyonce rule. It's
polarizing country music. What they say right here, what they
did was the Academy says the change will award modern
country while still giving a chance to recognize recognize some

(01:33:40):
genres like Americana. In June, Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr.
Insisted the proposal to buifer kate country into two categories
had been submitted well before Beyonce's win, and that country
stakeholders had brought its was a ford several times in

(01:34:01):
the past. The community of people making country music and
all different sub genres came to us with the proposal
and said they wanted more variety in how their music
is honored. It makes country parallel with what's happening in
other genres, but there's also a creating space for where
this genre is going now. Harvey, Black Harvey, know what

(01:34:22):
they did. They're like and y'all keep having them. Beyonce
doing country music. Y'all see Neo dropped the new country song.
It don't really sound country, sound really more R and B.
But he did put a black cowboy head on, so
I guess he called it the country.

Speaker 10 (01:34:37):
So will you throw a cowboy hat on?

Speaker 12 (01:34:39):
Out of norwhere?

Speaker 10 (01:34:39):
I had to rewinder like that. Roland had his cowboy
hat on the whole show.

Speaker 1 (01:34:43):
Oh baby. I came here with it from that part
of the world.

Speaker 10 (01:34:46):
I think Cowboy had look good.

Speaker 11 (01:34:48):
I need one because my head is big, so I
need I need to get a cowboy head that could
fit my head.

Speaker 1 (01:34:53):
If I came here. I came here with it, so
you know I got. I got about twenty five, so
you know I got. I cannot get. I came here
with it. See, I don't wear them truck ants like
Nola but but but but but but he is up.
He's a perfect example that they so mad at black
people ship We're gonna change the damn category. We're gonna change.

Speaker 5 (01:35:18):
For them to do that though, Like that's power.

Speaker 1 (01:35:21):
Yeah it is. I mean these people literally, they literally
are upset.

Speaker 9 (01:35:29):
They mad.

Speaker 1 (01:35:29):
It's like, damn, We're gonna change the category because we
just can't handle y'all winning. I'm like, man, y'all, come on,
I love it. Y'all sounds like d e I right right? No,
so no, sound like a quota mmm, sound like a quote.

Speaker 12 (01:35:47):
Sounds like we can't win nothing on our own ads.

Speaker 1 (01:35:52):
And and remember she said in her acceptance speech, I
think sometimes genre is a cold word to keep us
in our place as artists. And I just want to
encourage people to do what they passionate about as they persisted.
Now y'all need to understand, which is why I think
this is hilarious because the reality and again this is
the article that is in the Hollywood Reporter. And let

(01:36:15):
me just let me go ahead and say this. Now
I'm going back, going back, gone back. Let me just
say this here. I know y'all love y'all some Trisha
Yearwood and the rest of them, but that black one
from Houston is sexy as hell in the cowboy head.
That's what y'all really mad about. But y'all really mad
about them outfits when she hit on Cowboy Carter because
y'all know, y'all ain't got nobody in y'all entire grouping

(01:36:41):
find a hu.

Speaker 9 (01:36:42):
Y'all know that, y'all know that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:45):
That's why y'all mad. That's why y'all mad. They hot
Zachary because she were the hell them chaps. That's what
they're mad.

Speaker 13 (01:36:57):
That's why they're mad, never had and never will had.
That's why Aaron Rodgers left her. They mad, Well, that's
not that's not really why he left her.

Speaker 1 (01:37:08):
I mean, you know, because here's here's here's what they
really said, Dammit, we used to have tennis.

Speaker 9 (01:37:19):
We had tennis, but Serena and Venus.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
Shit, we had golf. You come that damn Tiger ship.
We had ice hockey. No, you actually didn't have ice
hockey because, as Dick Gregory broke down, the Stanley Cup
actually came from black people playing hockey in Canada. See,

(01:37:45):
so y'all can't even claim that. So they were just
sitting here and saying, oh, we had left, Oh we
had left with country music.

Speaker 10 (01:37:55):
Oh the last thing.

Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
We had the oak Ridge always we had a leagreebod.
Oh we had we had a Shanaiah. We got all
that is killing them. They're like, do y'all do the
blacks have to come everywhere? That's really that's really what

(01:38:20):
that's really why they're mad. They're like, they're like, can
we have a white safe space please? And the answer
no less no, no no, because they know wherever black
folks show up the seasoning.

Speaker 5 (01:38:46):
I mean, well, first.

Speaker 2 (01:38:47):
Of all, trying to like, you know, have sports just
like all to yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:38:54):
I feel like the initial plan is fluawed.

Speaker 2 (01:38:56):
I'm just gonna go ahead and say that, but have
all the space is that you want because I know,
I am happy in my black spaces when I need to,
you know, when I need to just kind of just
do me. So have all the white spaces you want
to have. That actually does not bother me. But when
we are talking about public events, public goods, you know,

(01:39:18):
like sports is a really good public good. It makes
people feel good, it's camaraderie, it's business in the community,
there are a lot of you know, net positives you
can't own that you can't just exclude others because you
think you own sports.

Speaker 1 (01:39:38):
Look, look, will let y'all have poker?

Speaker 5 (01:39:43):
Have what poker?

Speaker 1 (01:39:45):
Poka p o l ka.

Speaker 10 (01:39:49):
As it does, Poka music.

Speaker 1 (01:39:52):
Poka music. In fact, in fact, y'all realize that no, no, no,
do y'all realize that pokah music is the only that's
the only genre I do not have on my Why are.

Speaker 5 (01:40:08):
You seeing genre like a cuss word?

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
Because that's what it is. I need you. But see,
I'm see I'm a hip y'all or something. Uh And
hopefully no, don't hell them I'm talking about But you know,
she really doogie. So if y'all really want to understand
how we do this thing different? Okay, So I want
y'all to show you something. So, uh, let me tell
you how black people do this thing different. So this
is literally poka music. Gonna turn it up, win you here.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
Jolly jo this way read for y'all.

Speaker 30 (01:40:41):
He's welcome everywhere read or SnO these things and doesn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:40:47):
So okay, y'all, that's poke music. So zactly like what
the hell? So just so y'all know, so poke music.
They got the accordion and they got all of that,
and you see, they got the drums and they got
they got all of that. But you know, black people,
we we we we a little different, y'all. We are
a wee bit different because see, no, no, see when

(01:41:11):
when they see y'all need to understand, they sit here
and they played they play they little music. Uh, and
they got their little music and they're like, okay, cool,
I'm I'm doing this here. No, we a little different, y'all.
We a little different because see when we take them
same instruments and we do it like this m residing

(01:42:07):
because the late Buck resided right there. So we're gonna
take the same instruments so y'all can have poker. We're
gonna call that thing zoetiko. So we're gonna take the
same instruments, but like I told y'all, we're gonna have
some seasoning. I'm just saying, all right, so uh grammars,

(01:42:28):
y'all can change in the category. Y'all can have little
modern traditional boring as twangy whatever. But you know what's
gonna happen. It's a whole bunch of people coming behind
Shaboozie and Beyonce. Y'all know, Caine Brown gonna be coming
for them Country Wars next year. Y'all know rain are

(01:42:51):
gonna be coming for it. So it's and like I say,
my man, October London, his alter egoist Sam Nash Man,
y'all better ask somebody that's gonna happened as well. So
I'm just loving all of these folks. I'm loving these
white maga folks who like, man, can we get away
from these people? Can we get away?

Speaker 9 (01:43:12):
Now?

Speaker 1 (01:43:12):
Y'all can't get away? So you know what, I'm just
gonna go ahead and do this here. October London is
my homeboy. So we're gonna go to commercial break, y'all
with October London's alter ego, country singer Sam Nash. Y'all
know he's going on tour. Take it to the break.
I'll be right back.

Speaker 4 (01:43:48):
I'm wed down in Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (01:43:53):
Where the whiskey tastes fast, and now the girls.

Speaker 11 (01:43:56):
Little wood jeans I'm wed down into to see.

Speaker 5 (01:44:02):
That's my home away from home.

Speaker 10 (01:44:04):
Bill talk love and family.

Speaker 27 (01:44:06):
I know love, and I've made Hay been a sent
I've been no sin and over and down.

Speaker 4 (01:44:11):
I've witnessed fame.

Speaker 1 (01:44:12):
I've had my troubles, have no complaints. Who I am,
it's who I be, only one man, as you can see.

Speaker 12 (01:44:19):
If I strive to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
Be on me, I'll make them proud in Tennessee. Don't
even get that home, you some liquor up another row button,
the quick.

Speaker 5 (01:44:40):
Up side of change.

Speaker 22 (01:44:46):
We are talking about our lost star, our luminary, our guide,
Asadas Chakur, who recently passed away in Cuba.

Speaker 23 (01:44:54):
We're gonna unpack her legacy.

Speaker 3 (01:44:56):
I refuse to allow.

Speaker 24 (01:44:59):
A side of legacy to die before children that aren't
even born, like our babies that aren't even born.

Speaker 3 (01:45:05):
Must know her and must know her.

Speaker 24 (01:45:07):
And that road map is going to get us closer
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Speaker 31 (01:45:15):
I'm Russell Oyl Honoree Lieutenant Gerald United States Sorrow retired
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Speaker 6 (01:45:21):
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Speaker 1 (01:45:27):
Folks like Quila, Cheryl's broker. The nineteen ninety two gang
La Peace Treaty and its Community Based Public Safety Collective
have partnered with the Alligance for Safety and Justice to
lunch of scaling Safety at sixty three million dollar Community
Violence Individual Initiative. It's the largest private investment in resident
led public safety in US history. The program with pilot
in Austin, Cleveland, Jackson, Mississippi, Miami, and Tucson, building improvement

(01:45:49):
strategies that have reduced shootings by which is seventy percent
in places like Oakland and Newark. He joins us right now,
I'm glad to have you on the show. So how
did this whole.

Speaker 31 (01:45:59):
Coming Well, you know, I've been working with Leonora Anderson
and the Alliance for Safety Justice for over a decade
and you know, lifting up the work that we had
been doing in Newark, New Jersey for the past eight years.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
In twenty fourteen, you know, I got a call from MARYL. Baracka.

Speaker 31 (01:46:17):
It's been a good friend of mine for about twenty years,
and he asked me to help him to build out
his community based public safety initiative.

Speaker 6 (01:46:25):
And you know that new Work was on the top
ten most vinum city list for almost fifty consecutive years.

Speaker 31 (01:46:29):
Family, and you know, through maryl of Barrocker's genius and
my support, you know, we put together the Newark Communities
Free Team. First two years we had double digit reductions
in homicides. In twenty fourteen, when we started, it was
one hundred and three homicides in the city.

Speaker 6 (01:46:45):
Last year we had thirty seven.

Speaker 31 (01:46:47):
As a result of this word, I was tapped, you know,
by the White House to run the White House.

Speaker 6 (01:46:52):
Community Minus Interventionion Collaborative.

Speaker 31 (01:46:55):
Sixteen cities fifty two community based organizations that do community
minus and events as.

Speaker 6 (01:47:01):
A public health approach to reducing bonus in crime and
U And it was phenomenal.

Speaker 31 (01:47:06):
You know, we was able to pass the Bipartisan Safe
for Communities Act, you know, through the Biden administration. The
Biden administration turbo charged to work, put two hundred and
fifty million dollars in this work. We were able to
fund agencies all across the country, contributing to a thirty
percent decline across the country. And so Lenora and I
partnered and we applied for this fund called Audacious. It's

(01:47:29):
the largest social impact fund in the world. We were
one or ten of fourteen thousand applications. It was brutal
family going through the eighteen month process, but we raised
sixty three million dollars to invest in these you know,
five key communities across the country, with Newark being our
north star, with the goal of continuing to build infrastructure

(01:47:51):
for our community based partners, reducing bonus by fifty percent,
you know, tripling organizations, you know, fiscal and organizational capacity,
doubling access to resources.

Speaker 6 (01:48:04):
You know, this is this is.

Speaker 31 (01:48:05):
Our north star, and making that investment permanent in cities.
There's very few cities across the country, with the exception
of Newark in Los Angeles, that has a line item.

Speaker 6 (01:48:15):
Budget for community based public safety.

Speaker 31 (01:48:17):
Right we got law enforcement, I mean policing, fire department EMS.
There should be a line item, permanent line item for
community based public safety that doesn't change when elected officials change.
And so this is the work that we're now doing
in these cities to make sure that our folks are safe.
You know, black folks have never fail safe in this country,

(01:48:38):
and this initiative.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Essentially puts the power in the hands of the people.

Speaker 31 (01:48:43):
You can't have public safety without the public and so
this is, you know, our initiative to make sure that
our neighborhoods are safe and that we reduce finance, that
we sustain that reduction through our collective work.

Speaker 1 (01:48:55):
So you're telling me that this stuff can happen without
the National Guard.

Speaker 31 (01:49:00):
Absolutely, I mean, we've been reducing violence for thirty years.
You know, it's evidence based its and the dotal community
support it. The thing is is that they just raally
ever recognize it because it's us as leading to work,
as you know, and so the you know, the National Guard,
I mean just like law enforcement, ain't you know, they're
important part of the ecosystem, but law enforcement enforced laws.

(01:49:24):
You know, they're not a peacekeeping force in our respective communities.

Speaker 6 (01:49:28):
And safety is not just the absence of violence and crime.

Speaker 31 (01:49:31):
It's also the presence of well being in the infrastructure
to support victims and survivors in their respective healing journey.

Speaker 1 (01:49:37):
Questions from my panel, e zachly your first.

Speaker 13 (01:49:42):
So you know what, it's really great to see this
and it's a great way of kind of ending the
nights and really good news. I want to know when
you look at how can we possibly scale this up
to like more cities, Like what would be the first
thing that someone would want to do to get this
out in more places or to imitate or kind of
re create this.

Speaker 31 (01:50:01):
In terms of you know, scaling and this is this
is the work that we're doing with scaling safety. It's
about creating a replicable model, right investing in community based infrastructure.
So one of the first things that we have to
do is we have to assess the impact of the organizations.

(01:50:22):
We have to provide like kind of technical assistance support
to make sure that these agencies have the proper funding,
the back office infrastructure. In terms of being able to
manage dollars. You know, one of the things that we
learned when we did the White House Initiative was that
three quarters of our organizations couldn't even accept dollars family
they couldn't absorb the investment. And then also in terms

(01:50:43):
of data and research, right, so many of our organizations,
I mean, these individuals are doing phenomenal work on the
ground in the cities, but because they don't have data
infrastructure and evaluation infrastructure, law enforcement consistently takes credit for
their work. And so we're putting all of those pieces
in place with organizations so that they can sustain their work.

(01:51:06):
And then we have agencies like the Newark Community Street
Team in Newark, New Jersey, that we can do peer exchanges.
We take folks to see what a well functioning ecosystem
looks like.

Speaker 6 (01:51:17):
Right. High Risk Intervention is doing intervention and mediating.

Speaker 31 (01:51:21):
Conflicts, stay passage around our schools, trauma recovery centers, hospital
based violence and invention outreach work and case management. All
of these systems need to work in coordination in order
to reduce this sustained violence. And again, law enforcement has
a role, but community is first.

Speaker 10 (01:51:43):
Thank you for the work that you do.

Speaker 11 (01:51:45):
What just struck me about that is the breadth and
range of ways that you all implement violence, interruption and
public safety measures that don't involve the police, even though
obviously they have some role. We see that people just
want a one size fits on, a quick fix.

Speaker 10 (01:52:03):
Can you talk a little bit about.

Speaker 11 (01:52:06):
Kind of the time frame that you that you saw changes,
because I know people are impatient when they see like
this person was carjacked or this person's home was broken in.
Can you give people a sense of how long does
it take to start to see tangible change from these
different approaches.

Speaker 31 (01:52:23):
Yes, so one of the things that we did like
and now utilize new Work as an example. You know,
violence does not it's not across the whole city. You know,
in the city of Newerk, violence was concentrated in only
about twenty percent of the city in the south ward,
in the west ward. Sometimes when you tamp down the

(01:52:44):
violence in the south, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:52:45):
People move over into the west and vice versa. It
goes back and forth. And so.

Speaker 31 (01:52:50):
One of the things that you have to do is
you have to put you know, you have to hire.

Speaker 6 (01:52:56):
The residents from the neighborhood, right you.

Speaker 31 (01:52:58):
Hire the local credit me incredible messages, the ex game members,
the ex convicts, the extra drug dealers, those who have
real credibility in the neighborhood that used to be a
part of the get down, who change their life and
they have detoned, and then you know.

Speaker 6 (01:53:11):
You train them. We don't put anybody out in the
field who hasn't been trained.

Speaker 31 (01:53:15):
We have an organization that we work with, the Professional
Community Intervention Training Institute. We train folks in conflict resolution,
mediation and de escalation strategies. Then we deploy them in
keep parts of their neighborhood and ask them to utilize
your relationship capital to intervening mediate conflicts to peace result.

Speaker 6 (01:53:32):
Now, this this work is difficult, you.

Speaker 31 (01:53:34):
Know what I'm saying, because you know, you're working with
folks who come to this work with a tremendous amount
of trauma.

Speaker 6 (01:53:40):
So you have to develop new workforce development.

Speaker 31 (01:53:42):
Models you know that meet people where they are, you know,
and so there are systems that have to be put
in place. And so we're essentially building institution right where
where in many cases none exists. The thing that underscores
all of the violence in the neighborhood, it's trauming poverty.

Speaker 1 (01:54:01):
You know.

Speaker 31 (01:54:02):
So if you if you incentivize peace, if you pay
individuals right to come to the table, to to to
be trained and to utilize your relationship capital, and then
you provide traumta recovery services to address some of those
you know of inkst that costs that sometimes prevents us

(01:54:23):
from getting out of our own way to access our
destiny for us and our life purpose. You create a
pathway that that that is I mean, it's just life changing.
The people in the southward in Newark, they own safety
in your neighborhood.

Speaker 6 (01:54:37):
They own it. You know.

Speaker 31 (01:54:40):
I was fortunate enough to be called in, you know,
by my brother, Mayor Baraka, and this is.

Speaker 6 (01:54:47):
What his charge was to me.

Speaker 31 (01:54:48):
He was like, I don't want you to bring the
l A model. I don't want you to bring the
Chicago model. He was like, I want you to build
the Newark model. Every community is different and has its
own nuances and culture, and so we were able to
tap into that.

Speaker 6 (01:55:00):
And uh.

Speaker 31 (01:55:00):
And today, you know, this organization that I started, you know,
nine years ago with the you know, modest investment from
local philanthropy and the support of the mayor, today it's
a multimillion dollar agency, eighty over eighty staff, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:55:15):
And this November is going to have one of.

Speaker 31 (01:55:18):
The first mixed method evaluation reports led by a black
organization that shows that they reduce violence and crime without
law enforcement.

Speaker 6 (01:55:28):
Phenomenal.

Speaker 31 (01:55:28):
And so now we can take this this research, uh,
and then take it to different cities across the country
and share best practices.

Speaker 2 (01:55:45):
This work sounds amazing and I will be so excited
to see the data once you get it. So my
question is, in this current political climate, what does it
look like on the ground and scifically. What I mean
is I know that in the national security community, when
it comes to say something like counter terrorism, that this

(01:56:08):
administration has yanked a lot of prevention programs, and I
know that they favor more of a Gestapo style kind
of militarized police presence in many cities. And so I'm
just curious all of this amazing work that's being done
on the ground that is essentially challenging law enforcement. How

(01:56:30):
are you all thinking through and strategizing for the inevitability
of the Trump administration knocking on your door one day
and you know, one way or the other, because next
on their list of terrible things to do is to
gut nonprofits, to gut you know, entities like yours that

(01:56:52):
are actually doing something positive in a community that kind
of can challenge the.

Speaker 5 (01:56:59):
Going the going narrative.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
So how is it on the ground and how are
you all thinking about counteracting the eventuality of the Trump administration.

Speaker 31 (01:57:09):
Well, you know, first, I just want to say that
that we've already been attacked, right, the Community Based Public
Safety Collective.

Speaker 6 (01:57:18):
We were the lead technical.

Speaker 31 (01:57:19):
Assistance provider for the federal government for a Department of
Justice on Community Binans Intervention Prevention Initiative. So April to
twenty second, like three hundred and sixty five organizations across
the country, over eight hundred million dollars taken away.

Speaker 6 (01:57:34):
I had to lay off twenty staff.

Speaker 31 (01:57:37):
We were providing technical assistance to over ninety organizations across the.

Speaker 6 (01:57:40):
Country, cities, states, law.

Speaker 31 (01:57:43):
Enforcement, counties, and community based organizations, some who had never
implemented a community biness individual strategy before.

Speaker 6 (01:57:50):
Right, and so we you know, we're dealing with it now. Right.

Speaker 31 (01:57:55):
It's important that you have a diversified funding base. That
all of your dollars are not govern mental dollars, they're
not all philanthropic dollars.

Speaker 6 (01:58:03):
You know, you have to have an individual donor campaign.

Speaker 31 (01:58:05):
You have to have like a diversified funding base in
order to remain sustainable. Now, you know, we're we're you know,
we're not looking to law enforcement for solutions to safety
in our community.

Speaker 6 (01:58:17):
Family.

Speaker 31 (01:58:17):
You know, they're important part. They utilize a lot of
our tax dollars. My belief is that government doesn't have
any money. You know, government, we hire elective officials to
be the custodians of our tax dollars. And so we
have to also educate people how to build power on
the ground, you know, so that we could learn how
to move public dollars into public hands.

Speaker 6 (01:58:39):
Right.

Speaker 31 (01:58:40):
And so one of the things that we've done with
scaling safety, this partnership between the Alliance with Safety and
Justice and the Community based Public Safety collected, we raised
an unprecedented amount of money, sixty three million dollars. Now
it's not I mean in the largest team of things,
it's it's not a whole lot of money. However, going

(01:59:00):
to allow us to invest in these five cities, you
know a little more than you know, three quarters of
that those dollars will be regranted.

Speaker 6 (01:59:08):
To those agencies. So it's about kind of preserving.

Speaker 31 (01:59:12):
The winds you know that that we've already created as
the part of you know, the Bipartists say for Communities Act,
and some of the work that we've done through City
So and then many of many of our philanthropies across
the country has been stepping up. As I said, three
hundred and sixty five organizations got cut. Lenora and I

(01:59:32):
went to work immediately to raise capitals so that we
could get money to organizations during the summer, because we
know that during the summertime, bidence usually spikes in these neighborhoods, right,
and so we raised about eight hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for our filingthropy partners, and we regranted you know,
just about you know, ninety eight percent of those dollars
in Trach's the fifty seventy five or one hundred grand,

(01:59:55):
so that we can support our partners on the ground,
maintain staff, do you know, provide safe passage in the neighborhood,
you know, by putting money in the pockets of those
key individuals to do that particular work. This is how
we're looking at sustain in the work. So you know,
for those folks out there who got deep pockets, you
know what I'm saying, I'm like, hey, we have a

(02:00:16):
local capacity building fund.

Speaker 6 (02:00:18):
We don't just move.

Speaker 31 (02:00:19):
Dollars to organizations arbitrarily and say hey, do what you
can do. We assess the agency, so there's a system
of accountability. We develop a comprehensive training and technical assistance
plan in which we tear the organizations in terms of readiness.
We we help to lay out activities short range mi
raine loan range goals, and we stay with these agencies
you know, over a period of time, and so you know,

(02:00:41):
we we we're really fortunate, as I said, we've we've
been in this work for thirty plus years. Our reputation
is seller and so you know, we're we're continuing to
raise bhilanthropic dollars.

Speaker 6 (02:00:53):
We're working with cities and states and counties because.

Speaker 31 (02:00:57):
You know, the fans right now are you know, doing
all that some funny stuff with our bread.

Speaker 6 (02:01:01):
But that's temporary. You know, the pendulum swings to the
right and then you know it comes right back and
swings to the left.

Speaker 31 (02:01:07):
And so when they get finished doing all of the
crazy stuff, we're gonna be right there to put our
whole hand and risks in the pockets you know, of
government to make sure that we get our money.

Speaker 1 (02:01:18):
All right, Akille, If folks were more information, where did
they go?

Speaker 31 (02:01:21):
They go to Scaling Safety dot com, and you know,
you can learn about the initiative. You can also go
to each one of our respective REPS websites, the Alliance
for Safety Justice dot.

Speaker 6 (02:01:32):
Com or our.

Speaker 31 (02:01:34):
CBS CVPS collective dot com dot org and learn more
about our collective work.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
All right, Ben Well, I appreciate it, sir, Thanks a.

Speaker 6 (02:01:43):
Lot appreciate you brother. Thank you all.

Speaker 1 (02:01:45):
Right, then let me thank you Nola Recie Zachary had
the balance. I appreciate y'all being on today's show. Thank
you so very much. I'm gonna close the show out, y'all.
So you know, sometimes when you sit here dealing with
your little your little nieces and nephews, they always got
stuff to say. So I was riding in the car
with my niece Roquale, and the subject of speeches came up,

(02:02:08):
and she actually thought she was gonna start negotiating with me,
like about a referral fee. I just want to just
I just want to give y'all a taste of some
of this crazy stuff I gotta deal with when it
comes to these little chilling Okay, y'all listen to this conversation.

Speaker 4 (02:02:24):
Let me tell y'all, will this little her little told me.

Speaker 1 (02:02:29):
So? I told her point Blake, I said, to somebody,
folks were trying to get me due for free.

Speaker 4 (02:02:35):
I said, let them know my with my fee is
say get a cut.

Speaker 1 (02:02:42):
She don't say she get a cut.

Speaker 4 (02:02:45):
I'm the midle man, so I need to get a
findus fee. If anything results from that, He's.

Speaker 1 (02:02:53):
Not even tell y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:02:54):
The whole story.

Speaker 30 (02:02:55):
I said, if somebody I don't tell people he's my uncle,
because they're gonna ask you to do stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:03:00):
And he said, if somebody.

Speaker 30 (02:03:02):
Asked me to find him, he I'm supposed to try
some fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (02:03:07):
No, well I tried.

Speaker 1 (02:03:08):
Know what I'm saying is people want me to speak
for free because I know because they know people I know,
and no, no, I tell them it's fifteen grand.

Speaker 4 (02:03:16):
And then miss Thing was like, so you can pay
me your brand.

Speaker 30 (02:03:18):
Out of the fifteen you'll still have fourteen thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:03:22):
Who are you want a thousand? Hey, Johnny, hold on, y'all.
First of all, I didn't realized we had conversions in
this day. Hold on, yo, he is about to get
real crazy, y'all. I can't find out what the original
viol I'm playing the YouTube feed.

Speaker 9 (02:03:36):
All watched this.

Speaker 4 (02:03:39):
You are trying I set him up to get some money?
You watch your mind? How would he not pay me?

Speaker 1 (02:03:45):
First of all, ten percent? It's fifteen hundred five percent,
it's sept girl is seven fifty.

Speaker 6 (02:03:54):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:03:55):
I don't even think you should get two percent? Well,
you don't get I think I think, I mean I
get twenty five dollars. Don't play with me.

Speaker 30 (02:04:07):
What what am I gonna do with twenty five dollars?

Speaker 1 (02:04:11):
You can't, is it?

Speaker 5 (02:04:12):
You can't even offer twenty five dollars.

Speaker 1 (02:04:14):
It's not living off of twenty five dollars. It's just
I mean, you can afford gas, there's something. There's some
food you can buy.

Speaker 23 (02:04:21):
Expect me to die.

Speaker 4 (02:04:22):
There are snacks that you can get.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
I think, I think.

Speaker 4 (02:04:26):
Okay, fifty dollars, No I would. I will not be lowball.

Speaker 1 (02:04:30):
What it's not low ball?

Speaker 5 (02:04:32):
Yes you are.

Speaker 4 (02:04:32):
It's not low ball, Yes you are. No, it's not.

Speaker 30 (02:04:35):
You wouldn't even accept fifty dollars if you help somebody
get some money.

Speaker 1 (02:04:37):
That's not true. That's the truth.

Speaker 5 (02:04:39):
Okay, So what would you accept.

Speaker 1 (02:04:41):
What I would accept if I was in your case?

Speaker 22 (02:04:43):
No?

Speaker 4 (02:04:44):
No, nout.

Speaker 1 (02:04:44):
If I was, you would you accept what people.

Speaker 4 (02:04:47):
Except you extap Remember, remember there's something you're beating around
the book.

Speaker 6 (02:04:51):
No not.

Speaker 1 (02:04:52):
Let me explain something to you. See, like, there are
some lawyers that are thirty five dollars an hour lawyers.
Then there's some law you're like two thousand dollars hour
a lawyer. I'm a two thousand dollars hour lawyer.

Speaker 4 (02:05:04):
And I said you.

Speaker 1 (02:05:05):
Are twenty five dollars dollar lawyer.

Speaker 4 (02:05:07):
Yes you are.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Yes, she both two thousand.

Speaker 9 (02:05:11):
How we vote two thousand?

Speaker 3 (02:05:12):
Because we are. I work for myself just like you are.

Speaker 1 (02:05:16):
Yeah, but you are.

Speaker 4 (02:05:17):
Hold up, lawyer?

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
Are you crazy?

Speaker 4 (02:05:20):
And I'm worth it to?

Speaker 1 (02:05:21):
No?

Speaker 9 (02:05:21):
You not? Yes, I am.

Speaker 1 (02:05:23):
You don't have You don't have this. You don't even
have the same experience Aheadspence. Yes you do do. If
you if you if you think I have you think.

Speaker 4 (02:05:35):
You have to you have to work.

Speaker 5 (02:05:37):
I have to charisma, I have to.

Speaker 1 (02:05:38):
Love, babe. Held up, Chrisman, looks. That don't mean nothing.
That don't mean nothing.

Speaker 3 (02:05:43):
I'm the whole entire package.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
You how are you the package?

Speaker 9 (02:05:46):
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
You see?

Speaker 4 (02:05:47):
You not the back?

Speaker 10 (02:05:48):
You see the material?

Speaker 1 (02:05:50):
You not the package?

Speaker 12 (02:05:51):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
You not the package? Okay? How you think you know?
How you think?

Speaker 4 (02:05:55):
Literally?

Speaker 3 (02:05:56):
I'm the package and the deliverer.

Speaker 4 (02:06:00):
You high right now?

Speaker 1 (02:06:01):
I think you've been sitting with a room full of glue,
completely sober. Yeah, she lost her mind and she actually
thinks that she's worthy.

Speaker 4 (02:06:12):
If there's a fifteen thousand dollars.

Speaker 30 (02:06:14):
Space, I'm not about to argue with a man about
my work.

Speaker 4 (02:06:18):
Y'all see what it is, Thank you, y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
She lost her mind, She lost her mind. She's absolutely crazy.
Craik Crave, she's Craig Crave.

Speaker 5 (02:06:32):
Your brain cells are rubbing off from me.

Speaker 9 (02:06:34):
What.

Speaker 4 (02:06:34):
No, they're not, Yes they are, No, they're not.

Speaker 1 (02:06:36):
Yes they are.

Speaker 30 (02:06:36):
It's the same person that just told me I'm not
worth twenty five dollars or too big.

Speaker 1 (02:06:40):
No, no, no, no, I I didn't say you were
twenty five dollars. You were saying that you're crazy. You
were saying that you'll finders feed.

Speaker 5 (02:06:50):
You'rezy.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
You're saying that you'll finders feed should be a thousand.
And I'm saying you're too up there. Yeah, oh no,
you plea today happen at all? Trouble that ain't happening
at all.

Speaker 4 (02:07:05):
And let me explain something.

Speaker 1 (02:07:06):
You you think you're gonna get one or two bads.

Speaker 4 (02:07:09):
That means you got to do all the work.

Speaker 1 (02:07:11):
That means that you got to book the airfare, you
got to book the car.

Speaker 4 (02:07:14):
You got to sit here and handle all legislates you
think you gotta.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
No, no no no, I like to talk for fun.
No no, no, no no. And what I'm saying, is
I already got somebody who do that? Okay that I
do firstly, No, No, that's established. I have somebody who
handled you. Didn't say that I handled it. I have
some handles that, so I don't need you to be
handling legistions.

Speaker 4 (02:07:35):
You see you said you said, no, I didn't need you.

Speaker 9 (02:07:40):
Listen.

Speaker 4 (02:07:41):
I mean that's the whole.

Speaker 11 (02:07:41):
You yourself, and I didn't need my bag because I
told you no, No, I didn't do something.

Speaker 1 (02:07:47):
I no.

Speaker 4 (02:07:47):
No, you just saying you will find me something.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
No, you said that somebody asked you didn't see I
didn't look at you there.

Speaker 4 (02:07:54):
You got too much? No, you doing too much? So
you no, you doing too much. You calm yourself down.
I'm calm you ain't called.

Speaker 9 (02:08:06):
It, said you all that?

Speaker 4 (02:08:07):
Why am I picking you up?

Speaker 9 (02:08:09):
Because you're supposed to see.

Speaker 1 (02:08:11):
That, y'all.

Speaker 4 (02:08:11):
See that's that bullshit right there. See see that's that
bullshit right there.

Speaker 1 (02:08:16):
See that's why she laughing, because you know, supposed to.

Speaker 4 (02:08:21):
Drive, you're not supposed to drive. Hold him. I thought
you were a total package. I thought you had it
all together.

Speaker 9 (02:08:30):
I thought you.

Speaker 1 (02:08:30):
Had it all. Don't have to do anything, mean like
you're doing that you lost show, damn mind?

Speaker 4 (02:08:35):
Thank you, Yes, thank you, you don't lost show. Damn mind.

Speaker 5 (02:08:38):
No, I have I'm right in there. I'm a passenger princess.

Speaker 4 (02:08:43):
She's stick in the head.

Speaker 1 (02:08:45):
She's stick in the head. That y'all need to be
committed because she Craig Craig, that one right there, that
right there.

Speaker 4 (02:08:57):
You do not get it from me, No, you do not.

Speaker 30 (02:09:00):
They say, I act the most like him.

Speaker 4 (02:09:02):
So who's saying crazy?

Speaker 30 (02:09:05):
Everybody that know that when you said the same thing.

Speaker 4 (02:09:07):
So, no, we're insane. Absolutely the first of all, I'm
not insane as you are. I am absolutely safe.

Speaker 1 (02:09:13):
S a n e.

Speaker 5 (02:09:17):
It just proved my point.

Speaker 1 (02:09:18):
I'm one hundred percent.

Speaker 4 (02:09:20):
If you think that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:21):
You're insane, you're insane.

Speaker 4 (02:09:23):
You're saying insanity. I'm a two thousand dollars lawyer, twenty five,
I'm three, I'm three thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:09:31):
I'm three thousand.

Speaker 6 (02:09:32):
Girl.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
Please, I'm up with all your spore.

Speaker 4 (02:09:35):
Got that y'all need?

Speaker 1 (02:09:36):
Jesus, I have you three thousand outs.

Speaker 9 (02:09:41):
Got deal with?

Speaker 1 (02:09:43):
Do y'all see the nonsense I got deal with on
a regular basis? Hold on here, hear the end of
our conversation.

Speaker 5 (02:09:50):
The power Lord is with me.

Speaker 1 (02:09:54):
Okay, I've done that because she she done lost her mind,
lost her mind, that's gonna be. That's gonna be the
name of her podcast. I done lost my mind.

Speaker 5 (02:10:06):
You gotta be finding, absolutely not.

Speaker 3 (02:10:09):
You don't have a mind to help me find.

Speaker 4 (02:10:11):
Oh no, I have a mind. I'm telling y'all.

Speaker 1 (02:10:13):
First of all, it ain't not a brilliant here.

Speaker 4 (02:10:17):
Ain't not shit brilliant. God, let's just be real clear.
Everybody know that. Everybody know that.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
Okay, when you get it's like this.

Speaker 4 (02:10:25):
This like genius level, you know. I mean I don't
know what's I don't know what's happening over there. Uh,
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:10:34):
You see me? Yes, I see you? Right?

Speaker 5 (02:10:41):
If I call you my sofa, you're.

Speaker 22 (02:10:42):
Gonna get Yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:10:46):
No, you don't sit in front seat.

Speaker 1 (02:10:48):
Call somebody. No, damn chauffeur.

Speaker 3 (02:10:49):
Yes, I am personal yea for that.

Speaker 30 (02:10:54):
No, I don't think, thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:10:58):
I'm done with this little ship.

Speaker 1 (02:11:01):
A sister sister, little tired one a she little her
one be since they twins.

Speaker 4 (02:11:08):
All right, y'all, I gotta go. I gotta sit here.

Speaker 1 (02:11:13):
Can't focus on the road, speak somebody's damn hooper.

Speaker 4 (02:11:16):
Can't focus on the road yeah, whatever.

Speaker 17 (02:11:18):
Because my driver whatever, that driver will be getting.

Speaker 4 (02:11:21):
One starts for this matter.

Speaker 1 (02:11:23):
As matter of fact, this for this distance driving Wayne
hell over here past where I grew up. This is
at least a seventy to seventy dollars uber. So now
you owe me money? Now you now you owe me money?

Speaker 5 (02:11:36):
How would you like your papers?

Speaker 12 (02:11:37):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:11:39):
Easy? I want cash, boy, and amazing.

Speaker 4 (02:11:45):
We lost our It's like we lost our time.

Speaker 9 (02:11:48):
Ask for that money.

Speaker 1 (02:11:49):
They stopped talking.

Speaker 5 (02:11:52):
I don't care you cash.

Speaker 1 (02:11:53):
I'm a woman.

Speaker 4 (02:11:57):
Okay, I talked. We done fie whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Do y'all see the bullshit I gotta deal with? Do
y'all now understand the nonsense I have to deal with
on a regular basis, These badass kids. Man.

Speaker 32 (02:12:13):
All right, y'all, that's it for us. If y'all want
to support the works that we do. Some of y'all,
what's the movie? I see y'all in the comments, y'all
are cracking me up.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
Let's see here. Somebody said, yeah, passenger princess, passenger prince. Yes,
she actually called herself passenger princess. I'm telling y'all the
girl she had lost her mind. This mother said her
price keep going up, right, her price keep going up.
I'm like you ain't done nothing, all right, y'all support

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