Trump/MAGA attack rule of law, Student loan chaos, Harvard v Trump,"Protect White Americans" trashed

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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey folk.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Today's Tuesday, April twenty second, twenty twenty five, coming up
a Rolling Mark unfiltered streaming live from the Black Start Network.
I told y'all Donald Trump does not give a damn
about black people. In Louisiana, a US attorney tells a
judge they want to review the case of a deputy
sheriff who beat.

Speaker 1 (00:26):
A black woman. He was convicted.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
The judge said, hell no, we're proceeding with sennything. You
have time to review. We're gonna talk to y'all about
that with a Megan cund Of reporter who posted this
on the social earlier today. Also, a judge tells the
Trump folks they need to reinstate one one hundred and
twenty three international students who have the visa snatch by.

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These Trump thugs.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Also, they are forcing five million students to begin to
repace due loans. Folks, they may even garnish your wages
and the live we go live to Atlanta in our
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Speaker 1 (01:58):
No, he's rolling, all right, folks.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
I have consistently said that Donald Trump and his thuggish
maga administration wants to consistently attack black people. They do
not care about these the cops who also beat and
harm people. And I was on social media earlier today
and Meghan Kundiff, a legal affairs reporter, posted a tweet

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about a story that was sheriff convicted of beating a
black woman, that sheriff is gonna get sentenced next month.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Well, the US attorney.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Goes before the judge and says they want a delay
in the case because he wants to review this case.
The judge is like, I'm sorry, you got time between
now in the sentencing, So no, there will not be
any delay in citiency.

Speaker 1 (03:03):
Megan cond Of joins us right now Megan, glad to
have you on the show. This is crazy to me.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
We've seen this Trump when he got inaugurated, he issued
a pardon for a cop who they chased down and
they shout of black men.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
In Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
We've seen other stories where they are pulling out of
settlements that in Alabama, a case in Louisiana regarding picture
chemical companies.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
But when it comes to.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Cops, they literally are letting cops get away with hainous
crimes because Trump does not believe that they need to
be adjudicated. Walk us through what happened with this item
you posted today, and I.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
Think it's with that background that you provided that people
are a little worried on the victim side at least
about what's going to happen with the attorney or with
the US Attorney wanting to review this case. Because of course,
the prosecutors have so far taken an aggressive stance here
against this They opposed the motion for acquittal directed verdict

(04:11):
from his attorneys. But of course that was before Trump
appointed this new guy in and the first indication we
got that he might have a different view on the
case occurred when they asked for this long three month
delay in a sentencing, and this is a case it
only took three days to actually try before a jury.
But for some reason they said, we don't want to
do the sentencing in May. Can we do it in

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August now? And of course the defense wanted to go
along with that because they're hoping that this new US
attorney somehow persuades the judge to throw the case out.
But they're in a bit of a bind because the
prosecutors already have a conviction. So the prosecutors might be
in a place where they're trying to almost undermine their
own conviction, but the conviction still stands, and it's really

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up to the judge when are they'll throw it out?

Speaker 6 (04:55):
And he's already said no.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
And again, so give us the bat ground of this case.
What happened?

Speaker 5 (05:03):
So this was outside of a winco I think those
are pretty specific to the West coast Washington, Idaho, Nevada, California,
and Oregon. But the grocery stores and deputy responded to
a robbery call there and a couple. The woman who
is the victim here and then a man she was

(05:24):
with supposedly matched the description of the robbers and the
prosecutors in their case against this deputy say that the
two deputies did everything right with the man, that they
were able to de escalate the situation and take him
into custody without incident. But the woman was filming this
and telling them that she was filming it. She was

(05:45):
even telling them that, hey, I've got this on YouTube live.
And the prosecutor's theory is that this one deputy really
didn't like that.

Speaker 6 (05:52):
He wanted to retaliate against this woman.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
It just made him mad that he was being filmed
like that, and he ended up taking her to the
ground in Pepper Sprain are And this is all on
body camera footage.

Speaker 6 (06:02):
And the police said that.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
The prosecutor said that he had no justifiable means to
do that, that that was excessive force, and that was
the case they presented to the jury and the jury said, yes,
that's excessive.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Okay, So deputy sheriff excessive force against this black woman,
does nothing wrong. They go to trial, last three days,
jury says, you're right.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
He gets convicted. They sent a sentencing.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now Trump's US attorney wants to come in and say, hey,
we want to review the case, and okay, it's already done.

Speaker 1 (06:40):
It's already done.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
And this judge said, what, like, what the hell, that's
three weeks, four weeks before centicing?

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You got tired and reviewed in a month. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (06:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
The judge was really saying, why would you need more
time than the time that you already have right now
to review this? And it was interesting because I went
there expecting the new US attorney to be there wanting
to talk about this case, but he just left us
to the line prosecutors who are there trying to explain
why they.

Speaker 6 (07:07):
Should delay a sentencing for three months.

Speaker 7 (07:09):
And it was an awkward dance.

Speaker 5 (07:11):
They were dancing in front of the judge, for sure,
and he really didn't buy it. I mean, it was
six minutes of a kind of back and forth and
then he just said motion denied. Sentencing proceeds on the nineteenth.
So it's a big question of what are they going
to recommend for this guy. The maximum is ten years
in prison, and it's unlikely under any circumstances that he
would face the maximum, but you would expect prosecutors to

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recommend some kind of prison sentence.

Speaker 6 (07:35):
But I think people are worried.

Speaker 5 (07:37):
People who support this prosecution are worried that it's going
to be undermined from the inside.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Now.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Well, first of all, listen, look, we see what happened
and where three prosecutors today in New York City resigned
in the case dealing with Mayor Eric Adams, where they
issued a scathing letter. Well, the Trump administration was trying
to pressure them to frankly lie about not being pressured,

(08:07):
and they quit. And what we are seeing, we're seeing
where Trump's units attorneys are coming into office and literally
undoing cases, crapping on the work of prosecutors who say, no,
we got us.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
A conviction, that's our job.

Speaker 2 (08:23):
And when it involves cops, especially involving cops, Trump wants
to let those cops off scott free.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (08:31):
I think a lot of people see it that way.
And what some people are concerned about is they indicate
in court yesterday that Bill, the new US Attorney at LA,
this is not the only case that he's reviewing right now.
So I've asked the US Attorney's Office public Information Office
if they can say what other cases.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
Are being reviewed here, and I've yet to hear back.
So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
Well, and the reason the folks with the victim better
be concerned because in January literally when Trump let the
January sixth domestic terrorists free via partons.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
He also partnered two cops in Washington, d C.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Who were convicted in the twenty twenty death of Karan
Hilton Brown. These cops are found guilty of second degree murder,
conspiracy to obstruct, obstruction of justice in connection with the death.
And what was crazy to me is that Washington, d C.
Did not like the fact that these cops are being prosecuted.

(09:33):
They felt they could have handled this with an administrative hearing.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
And the user turns I.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
Was like, no, this should actually go to trial. They
were convicted. Trump pardoned those cops for that, And so
I'm telling you right now, I wouldn't be shocked if
this judge, no matter what he sentences with that, Trump
turns around and partns this.

Speaker 6 (09:55):
Police abuser exactly.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
And I've heard from this police officers camp that really
is supporting him, that that's what they're going for, that
they've gone to Washington, DC. And I'm a little amazed
at their use of the word lawfare and their insistence
that this must have been a political prosecution, because just
having reported on federal cases in Los Angeles for a
few years. The unit that prosecuted this police officer. It's

(10:21):
the Public Corruption and Civil Rights Unit of the US
Attorney's Office, and they're supposed to be nonpartisan. But really,
when you look at the cases that they've done, at
least the cases that I've covered, most of the people
they've prosecuted that I've written about have been Democrats. So
the idea that there's somehow just these you know, neoliberals
that are just going on, you know, anti the Trump agenda,

(10:42):
it's not true at all. But then you have some
people on the other hand who actually appear to be
playing politics with this case. They got somebody in office
that appears to not like what the jury did, and
they're hoping that they can get him to try to bend.

Speaker 8 (10:57):
The case to their will.

Speaker 5 (10:59):
I mean, it seems like they're the ones trying to
play politics with it.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
But unfortunately, Megan, it is the anti Trump agenda. Trump
is anti civil rights, and I guarant and so Trump
does not believe in civil rights. He believed he said
during the campaign he wanted to give cops one hundred
percent immunity. We try to warn people about this and

(11:24):
that the problem here is that this was not a
state prosecution.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So I got to ask you this now, was this
officer was.

Speaker 2 (11:34):
He tried by the state or did the state step
away and allow the Feds to move forward? Because so
if that's the case, so the only way Trump can
intervene if it's a federal case. Was there ever a
state prosecution?

Speaker 5 (11:48):
The state prosecutors in LA did look at the case.

Speaker 6 (11:51):
They did not prosecute him.

Speaker 5 (11:52):
That's why, wow, federal And that's actually something that his
supporters are pointing at. And it's not the worst point
because George got who was in LA and didn't prosecute him,
does like to prosecute cops. I mean, the idea that
Gascone would would not prosecute someone who deserved to be prosecuted.
They were really pointing to if Gascon wouldn't take this case,

(12:13):
the prosecutors must have been really out of line to
take this case.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
But I think there's a whole other side to that.

Speaker 5 (12:19):
And in the end, from what I've seen from their defense,
it's everything that was presented to a jury, and the
overall defense is that he was following policy and that
they all do this in these situations. So I think
it's a little bit alarming that twelve people in La
County or the Federal jury area around La heard all
this and saw the video of her being pepper sprayed

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and still said this is out of line.

Speaker 6 (12:42):
We shouldn't have officers doing it.

Speaker 5 (12:44):
And the police response to this is not to take
it to heart and wonder about this. Maybe some are,
but overall the response is that they're being unfairly treated
and that this is.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, yeah, because that does kill exactly with what Trump
he believes, and a lot of these conservatives believe, and
these cops believe that they should be able to do
whatever they want.

Speaker 1 (13:09):
We know for a fact, the last time the twice.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
Impeached, criminally convicted felon in chief sat in the Oval office,
Jeff Sessions in Bill Barr specifically said they were pulling
back from consent decrees.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
They all decried the morale of cops.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Then you've got so called progressives, liberals like Bill Mahr,
who praised Trump restoring the morale of cops.

Speaker 1 (13:37):
And let's just be honest.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Police in this country cannot stand oversight and they can't
stand accountability. And anytime a single cop is held responsible,
their response is like some petulant child and they respond
with we're not gonna police, We're not gonna answer calls.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Oh my god, this is unfair.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
I mean you rarely ever see a cop say you
know what, that asshole should no longer be on the force. No,
they are protective of each other because they say, oh,
it might be us one day and we want the
same protection.

Speaker 8 (14:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
One of the deputies, the sheriff sefties who are supporting
this guy. One of their ways of protesting this conviction,
there's an annual relay. It's Baker to Vegas. It's a
big marathon, happens every year. It's the prosecutor's office is
really big into it.

Speaker 6 (14:30):
The police officers.

Speaker 7 (14:31):
Always form teams for it.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Some of the deputies actually boycotted the relay as a
way of protesting this, this conviction. I mean, it's just
the it's the thin blue line and the whole idea
that being blue is somehow in ethnicity or something that
they that they seem to latch onto.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Well, well, I'm going to call it the thick blue
line because we see this all we see this all
around the country. The folks supporting the victim. How are
they responding, what are they doing? Are they you know,
are they just hoping the judge do right?

Speaker 9 (15:06):
Are they?

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Are they any public pressure? You know? What are they
doing this case?

Speaker 10 (15:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (15:11):
I think they're hoping for a lenient sentence, but really
it's a pardon that they need right now because the
problem for them is their guy came in after the
conviction already happens. So once there's a conviction, it's in
the judge's hand. And he actually issued a ruling on
Friday saying no, the conviction stands, So maybe there's a
chance he would give a lenient sentence, but the conviction

(15:32):
will always be there. So I think they're hoping they
can get Trump to issue a pardon on this. And
it's interesting because the police aren't completely uniform on this.
He has some vocal supporters, the former sheriff in La
Counties one of them, but the current sheriff is I think,
takes a little bit of a different tone, and so
it's not completely unified, but it's still I think they're

(15:54):
still clamoring for that pardon.

Speaker 8 (15:56):
So we'll see.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Well, let's well, for folks who don't know, uh, that
former share was the one who I'll call him a thug, uh.
And then he lost, and then he tried to run
for re election. Uh and did he did he switch parties?

Speaker 1 (16:11):
What?

Speaker 2 (16:11):
So we'll explain what happened there, because he had some
serious problems.

Speaker 5 (16:17):
Yeah, he's uh, he's he's a story all in himself.
And as far as I know, at least through the
years of Illinois has been a Democrat. But he definitely
embraces the the fake news aspect of the mega agenda,
for sure. But he is he's definitely been on the
deputy side, Deputy Kirk side, and has been. He was
in court for him and there's there's even video after

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the verdict of them hugging in the hallway outside the courthouse.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, but he was also the one, uh didn't didn
He also launched an investigation into reporters who were reporting
with some cases.

Speaker 5 (16:51):
Yes, yes, all sorts of that stuff, all all sorts
of that stuff. It's he's he's not a friend to uh,
to the press, that's for sure.

Speaker 2 (17:00):
Well, I'm gonna tell you right now, for the woman
who was beaten here, I really think, and I'll be
perfectly honest, knowing how this is, how this is going
to turn out, I think the solace they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
Have is that the guy was convicted.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Whatever the just sentences him, I would not be shocked
and I will put money on it that within a
week of this sendency, it may be the next day
Trump is gonna partn this cop.

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well, I mean we're gonna find out
in less than a month. And it seems like so
so May nineteenth, and then they've got to file their
papers to saying in the weeks before saying how much
time they're gonna they're they're gonna ask for them. So
it'll be interesting to see the tone on that. But Roland,
I think you're I think you're predicting the future here.
We might be talking about this later on.

Speaker 2 (17:52):
Yeah, And so unfortunately we have to deal with this
constantly and where this man does not but he does
not believe that cops should be held accountab before anything.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
And he said that he wants one hundred percent immunity.
So as he.

Speaker 2 (18:06):
Said, you know, they can do their jobs, and these
cops know that they with Donald Trump, they have a
one hundred percent license. And that's why people like Ben
Shapiro and Matt Walsh and these conservatives are calling for
Trump to partn the cops. That killed that killed George
Floyd on the federal charges. They want him to partner

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him on those charges because they know that they have
somebody in office who's going to use the part in
power to let cops go free.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we're going to see a
real life example play out here over the next few
weeks here in LA. So I'm so glad you're interested
in the case.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
Well, you know, we've been covering these things. This is
what we warn people about with credit tween twenty five,
we warn people.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
And it's also.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Why on social media I've been challenging all of these
black maga folks by saying, oh if y'all can't y'all
so called claim that you support black people. It's amazing
how they are eerily quiet on every single move that
Donald Trump's makes as anti black, and so they.

Speaker 1 (19:13):
Expose exactly who they are.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So we'll keep looking forward to it, look forward to
see what this judged does.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Yes, yes, thank you so much for your time, Megan.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
I appreciate it, thanks a lot. I want to bring
in my panel right now. Doctor Mustapha Sanntago Lee, former
Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice with the EPA, out of DC,
Teresa Lundy, principal and founder of TML Communication at the Philadelphia.
Also Eugene Craig, CEO X Factor Media, Baltimore, Maryland. Glad
they have all three of you here. Eugene, I'll start

(19:44):
with you. Uh, And I said it, okay, we don't
have Eugene. Let me know when Eugene is here. But look,
I made it clear, Mustafa. Donald Trump does not give
a damn about black people. He is anti black, His
agenda is anti black, and he is absolutely pro cop.

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He doesn't care if these cops kill people, beat people,
main people. He is going to let them off.

Speaker 8 (20:13):
Yeah, I mean, and you know his policies speak to that.

Speaker 11 (20:16):
You know, he doesn't have any policies that are protective
of our communities. He's actually been trying to erode many
of the policies at the various agencies that could help
us to be able to find justice. The individuals that
he hires as a part of his staff, both at
the White House and at these federal agencies, also have
no record of ever being supportive of the needs that

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exist inside of our communities. And evidently he doesn't also
care about the facts that are out of the studies
that have shown that, you know, on the conservative side,
over three hundred thousand folks each year in our country
end up dealing with this type of police violence. You know,
we've got over one hundred thousand injuries that happen every year,
and everybody knows the statistics around the fatal and hours.

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I think of twenty twenty four, we had over thirteen
hundred people, and we know that black folks are three
times more likely to be the recipients of violence of police,
you know, misconduct of.

Speaker 8 (21:11):
The false use of force.

Speaker 11 (21:14):
So whether it's the facts, the policy, or the individuals
that he surrounds himself with, it shows very clearly that
our lives don't seem to have the same value as
others that he does try and protect and does try
and uplift.

Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yeah, I mean, you know, look, we've been covering this
in Theresa from day one. I have said that Donald
Trump wants to completely destroy the black civil rights and
economic agenda. That's what this is all about, pure and simple.
He is showing exactly who he is, Teresa.

Speaker 7 (21:58):
You on me, thank you.

Speaker 12 (22:02):
And it's unfortunate because the writing was on the wall
when he was first selected in twenty sixteen and yet
you know, folks decided they wanted to put them back
in the office. And actually it said I'm taking four
years to do what destruction. He's now doing it within
under one hundred days. And I think, you know, as
we you know, all try to figure out how to

(22:22):
navigate you know, Trump, his team, his policies, I think,
you know, the rule of law is really going to
have to be our blueprint here on how we govern
as a society. But also being very aware of the
tactics that they're doing. We've seen what Trump administration has

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been doing in the justice system where you know, basically
he's creating signals to law enforcement officers that you know,
if something goes down, we got your back. And it's
unfortunate because, as southhas said, it is affecting our communities
and our neighborhoods. But I think there is a light
at the end of the tunnel. Democrats is you know,

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need to get aligned not only in their communication, but
in unification on strategies ahead.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
Well, I don't know what the light at the end
of the tunnel is because the reality is Mustafa, unlike
in previous years, we cannot we cannot look to I'll
dare say this here, even if I factory in even

(23:37):
if I factory in Nixon Reagan, both bushes and to
some degree. Uh, this Thug's first administration. This will be
the first time since the Department of Justice is Civil

(24:00):
Rights Division was created that we cannot, under any circumstance
look to the federal government for any help prosecuting rold cops.

Speaker 8 (24:13):
Oh, that's exactly right.

Speaker 11 (24:14):
And I've worked with folks at the Department of Justice
and the Civil Rights Division and in other divisions that
are there. There is no longer there never has been
a safe harbor and relationship to the impacts that are
happening inside of our communities. But now you have folks
who are intentionally making sure that they are deconstructing any

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possibility of us finding justice or equity in relationship to
how they move. So we as a community have to
make sure that we are helping to keep ourselves protected.
We have to be smart and strategic about where we
find ourselves and how we move. And that's not saying
that that is right. I mean, as American citizens, you

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should be able to do and save whatever the constitution allows.
But we also have to understand the moment that we
are living in, and this is a very dangerous and
deadly situation that is lining up for me.

Speaker 8 (25:10):
The north star is actually the midterms.

Speaker 11 (25:14):
And that doesn't mean that anything is going to significantly change,
but we can begin to balance out power. We can
have folks on Capitol Hill who can pull people up
and have hearings on issues and put pressure.

Speaker 8 (25:29):
So that is still a little ways off.

Speaker 11 (25:32):
So we have to make sure that we're doing everything
that we can to keep ourselves safe and to make
sure that we are truly living as a community. And unfortunately,
once again we have to carry additional weight that we
shouldn't have to.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
But we understand, you know the history of America, and you.

Speaker 11 (25:49):
Know, we just got to make sure that we modify
and adapt for the moment to the situations that we're
dealing with.

Speaker 2 (25:57):
The reason I think this is a lot different, it's
because you have an individual who was trying to undo convictions.
It was different in the first time when they only
launched one police patterns and practice investigation, which was a

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small police department. I think it was in Louisiana or Alabama.
I can't remember which one of the two, or maybe
it was in Mississippi was one of them three anti
black states.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
This is different.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
This is trying to stop and undoe convictions. And then
this is using the part in power so if they
even are convicted, to allow them to go free. This
is absolutely unprecedented.

Speaker 12 (26:52):
And again, you know, I was honestly talking about when
I said the light at the end of the tunnel.
I'm hoping that it will be the midterms where we
start seeing change. But when we talk about the convictions,
it is uh, yes.

Speaker 7 (27:08):
It's different.

Speaker 12 (27:08):
Uh it's it's unseen, it's unheard of. You know, the
signs were there early on when he was packing the court.

Speaker 7 (27:16):
But I do believe that, you know, if we have
some of these.

Speaker 12 (27:21):
Judges that you know, do not have the same uh
frame of reference of how they are interpreting the law
on these conventions convictions, then I think and and some
of these defense attorneys that are that is going to
hold them accountable. I don't think it'll be uh as serious.
I just think they are the Trump administration is actually

(27:44):
trying to see how much they can.

Speaker 7 (27:46):
Get away with.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
I mean it's they've they've made it clear what they
can get away with. Again, he holds the ultimate parton
if a cop is convicted. I mean, look, they don't
care about line prosecutor.

Speaker 1 (28:00):
They don't care.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
We have seen multiple prosecutors in New York City resign
because of the Eric Adams case. They don't care. They
want prosecutors. They want line prosecutors a lot. They are
forcing out prosecutors in Washington, d c. They are forcing
out prosecutors all across the country. If you believe in

(28:25):
holding cops accountable, Trump's US attorneys are going to likely
run you away or fire you if you do not
hold the line. This is official Trump policy. We let
cops do what they want to do.

Speaker 8 (28:41):
Yeah, it is a doctrine for them, right.

Speaker 11 (28:43):
They believe that this is a part of the new
world order that they're trying to put in place. It also,
you know, gives them that additional flexibility that they've been
looking for. We've seen the dynamics around the military and
then removing people.

Speaker 8 (28:57):
They are pushing people out.

Speaker 11 (28:58):
It's the same dynings when it comes to other parts
of law enforcement. Everybody's paid attention to the FBI some
of the other law enforcement agencies, but they haven't been
paying as much attention to some of these other dynamics
that are playing out.

Speaker 8 (29:11):
This is just one example of trying to.

Speaker 11 (29:13):
Actually run the board right to make sure that you
have power in all possible ways, and folks need to
pay attention to it. But don't just pay attention to it.
You've got to also speak out. You've also got to
make sure, as we've said earlier, that you understand how
important your vote is and make an informed decision about
how you want to utilize that. The last thing that

(29:33):
I'll say is that we've got to also make sure
that people are paying attention to these state attorney generals
and making sure that that is a part of their
equation when they're deciding how they want to utilize their vote,
because we've got to make.

Speaker 8 (29:46):
Sure that not only on the federal side that we have.

Speaker 11 (29:49):
Folks who are focused on justice and equity, but in
the state and even on the local level and the
county level, it's important to make sure that we have
the right people who are there also who are going
to follow the letter of the law, but they're going
to do it through a lens of understanding how important
justice and equity is.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
Absolutely all right, going to a quick break, we come back,
We're going to talk about student loans.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Folks, if you've got one.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Trump administration wants you to pay up.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
They might even garnish your wages.

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We're not white people are moving their their man.

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As a mainry pro Trump mont storms the US capital and.

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Some show We're about to see the lives where I
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I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
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This is part of American history.

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Every time that people of color and the progress, whether
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Speaker 2 (36:08):
Remember all those folks whiny and complaining saying that, oh,
Joe Biden, he didn't do enough to end student debt relief,
even though he tried to get rid of all student
loan debt relief with the US Supreme Court. U Supreme
Court said no, and then he turned around, and then
they figured out within the rules how they could wipe

(36:28):
wipe out more than one hundred and fifty upwards of
two hundred billion dollars of student loan debt. And then
people were still bitching and moaning about how they wanted
him to wipe out student loan debt relief when it
was already clear it didn't happen. So maybe if a
bunch of those same people had voted for Hillary Clinton
twenty sixteen, and then that would have happened because then

(36:49):
she would have appointed three Supreme Court justices.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
But that's another story. So what then happens?

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Folks on their asses, they don't vote, or some vote
form MAGA and guess what. We now get this from
mccloless Press Secretary Carolyn Levitt about student loans.

Speaker 19 (37:09):
The Trump administration has announced we will put an end
to Joe Biden's illegal loan bailout attempts. No student loan
has been referred to collections since March of twenty twenty.
That comes to an end on May fifth. The Department
of Education will resume involuntary collections for borrowers with defaulted
federal student loans. The student loan portfolio controlled by the

(37:31):
federal government is nearly one point six trillion dollars, but
fewer than four out of ten borrowers are in repayment.
This is unsustainable, unfair, and a huge liability for American taxpayers.
Debt cannot be wiped away. It just ends up getting
transferred to others. So why should Americans who didn't go
to college or went to college and responsibly paid back

(37:53):
their loans pay for the student loans of other Americans.
The Trump administration will never force taxpayers to pay student
loan debts that don't belong to them. Student loan borrowers
need clarity, and we're finally giving it to them. Borrowers
will now be clearly expected to repay their loans, and
those who default on their loan obligations will face involuntary collections.

(38:14):
The government can and will collect defaulted federal student loan
debt by withholding money from borrowers, tax refunds, federal pensions,
and even their wages. America is thirty six trillion dollars
in debt. We must get our fiscal house in order
and restore common sense to our country. If you take
out a loan, you have to pay it back.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
It's very simple, really, okay, God should tell that when
taxpayers use twenty five Trump used twenty five billion dollars
to give to farmers in last time because of his
dumb tariff decision. Roxanne Guards, the director of policy at
ed Trust Jones, is now from Washington, DC. Roxanne, let

(38:53):
they have you here. Lections have consequences. You know a
lot of people complaining about bid didn't do enough, didn't
do enough, he was catching hail from all sort of people,
and they just ignored the almost two hundred billion dollars
in student loan didnt relief that actually took place? Well,
guess what now people are realizing that Trump don't give
a damn and they're now going to have to deal

(39:16):
with the possibility of their way is being garnished.

Speaker 14 (39:20):
Yeah, no, thank you.

Speaker 17 (39:21):
First of all, thank you so much for having me
to talk about this issue. Yes, as we just now heard,
that is the plan. So next month, for the first
time in about five years, federal student loan barers will
start to face the financial consequences of missed payments on
their student loans.

Speaker 14 (39:42):
So the people that.

Speaker 17 (39:43):
We're talking about here are people that are potentially delinquent
on their loans currently. So that means you've missed a payment,
you missed up to three payments, so you can be
delinquent for ninety days.

Speaker 14 (39:58):
After those ninety days.

Speaker 17 (40:00):
Your loan is essentially flagged as delinquent. At that point,
it can affect your credit score, and then you know,
once you're about nine months.

Speaker 14 (40:10):
Of no payment, then your loan goes into default.

Speaker 17 (40:12):
And that's when you can really see these very serious
financial consequences, Like she said, you know, way wage garnishments,
you know, tax credit garnishment, social security things that you know,
people really rely on to make ends meet. Those are
things that they that the government can start to garnish
in order to you know, essentially make a payment on

(40:35):
that debt that you owe.

Speaker 2 (40:36):
I'm sure a lot of these people really wouldn't mind
if Kawal La Harri is the one who was sitting
in the Oval office.

Speaker 17 (40:45):
Well, I think the one point that is important to
make here is that twenty twenty five was going to
this was going to be the year that these consequences
were going to be faced. I think the problem that
you have right now is that or the thing that
might be might have been different in another situation, is

(41:09):
that this is happening all while this administration has decimated
the Department of Education by you know, essentially cutting half
of its staff, making big cuts to the staff in
the Federal Student Aid office that is really charged with.

Speaker 14 (41:26):
Managing this process.

Speaker 17 (41:29):
And also all while they are wanting to make changes
installing you know, essentially applications for student loan repayment options
that are more manageable, like the SAVE plan that would
reduce payments for borrowers. So I think the real issue
is that this is happening all while this administration is

(41:54):
doing a lot of other things that are that are hurtful,
that are that are.

Speaker 14 (42:00):
Causing chaos for student borrowers.

Speaker 17 (42:02):
So it's really creating a perfect storm of all of
these things kind of come into a head at the
same time, and this is really the last thing the
barroers need when there's already a lot of chaos, a
lot of unanswered questions about what they should be doing,
how they should be repaying their loans. I think this
is the other thing to really take note is, you know,

(42:22):
people want to make payments on their loans. They want
the payment to be manageable, but they want to make payments,
but they don't know how, Like the process just isn't
clear for people to start going down that path of
finding like the right repayment plan for themselves and really
starting to make those payments. So the idea that you know,

(42:44):
this administration is trying to bring clarity in this moment.
If anything, there's a lot of chaos and confusion in this.

Speaker 1 (42:52):
Moment, and they are not going to give them any relief.
They're going to be. They're going to be you know,
hard ass is on this. I mean, folks might as
well all get used to it.

Speaker 14 (43:02):
Yeah, Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 17 (43:04):
I don't think that we will necessarily, you know, see
a lot of leniency or the administration you know, potentially
trying to find ways to make repayment easier.

Speaker 14 (43:17):
I think in previous.

Speaker 17 (43:19):
Administrations, you know, people understood that these financial consequences of
default are are very real for students and bars and
their families at a time when we're seeing you know,
cost of living go up, housing, childcare, all these different
costs that are.

Speaker 14 (43:37):
Really stretching families thin.

Speaker 17 (43:40):
So that is why there was really this attempt to
make repayment easier on families and trying to create repayment
plans that were more affordable that could provide relief. That
is not what we're unfortunately seeing right now out of
this administration at a time when a lot of these
flexibilities are coming up.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
So folks just might as well prepare themselves because they're
going to come after the money.

Speaker 14 (44:07):
Yeah, I think I think that's true.

Speaker 17 (44:09):
I think what I would recommend is that if you
if you do have student loans, if you haven't been
making payments. You should contact your servicer. The Department of Education,
you know, says that you you can contact.

Speaker 14 (44:25):
Them to to figure.

Speaker 17 (44:27):
Out what your next step is to to make a payment. So,
you know, I would make sure that I would contact
the servicer. I would contact the Federal Student Aid Office
and see what your options are. Make sure that you
understand what what plan you're on, whether you can get
on a more affordable plan in order to avoid delinquency

(44:48):
or default. The problem is, I don't know that you
will get your questions answered or your call answered. So
I would say, you know, I would urge people that
if if you can't get through to somebody, then you
really should make your voice heard with your member of
Congress and really make them understand that you know, you're
trying your best, You're trying to get in touch with

(45:09):
the agency. You're trying to make it right, but sometimes
it's it's going to be really difficult again because of
the staff cut. So I think those are the big
things for people to know. Right now, there are a
lot of options, there's not a lot of clarity. So
I would you know, actively reach out again to the
to the Department of Education, to the extent that you
can get through to your servicer or to your member

(45:30):
of Congress.

Speaker 2 (45:31):
Crazy, crazy, crazy Rock Sande appreciate it.

Speaker 14 (45:34):
Thanks you a lot, thank you.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
You know what, Teresa, Again, lectures have consequences, and there
were so many people who were whining, complaining, moaning, oh,
Bond's not doing enough.

Speaker 1 (45:48):
Well, what you're gonna do now.

Speaker 12 (45:54):
Well, well, what most people are going to do is
hopefully reach out to there student loan provider and trying
to get on a monthly payment schedule like I did.

Speaker 7 (46:04):
I think when the first.

Speaker 12 (46:04):
Announcement came out, obviously it was all waiting for Biden's
plan to get it across the finish line. But again
the roadblocks and the Supreme Court also halted that opportunity
to alleviate so much payment debt from so many.

Speaker 7 (46:21):
But now again we're, you.

Speaker 12 (46:23):
Know, instead of being alleviated from all these student loan
debt payments, we're now being forced to pay in full.
And so, you know, you and your guests was totally
right when it comes to like, elections have consequences, and
those consequences are you know, meeting us exactly.

Speaker 7 (46:39):
Where we are in our home and in our every
day life.

Speaker 12 (46:42):
So when people are complaining about age, just remember you
know you now have to pay a student loan debt
that's three times the call. So what it is to
purchase ex at this moment.

Speaker 1 (46:52):
Its tava.

Speaker 11 (46:54):
I mean, it's just the continual foolishness of this administration.
I mean, so you got people who are in survival mode,
right there are so many people trying to keep the
lights on, trying to put food on the table.

Speaker 8 (47:06):
They're literally just trying to survive.

Speaker 11 (47:08):
I had a few folks who I know who actually
reached out to the Department of Education because they're trying to,
you know, figure out what they could do and how
they could.

Speaker 8 (47:16):
You know, rectify some situations.

Speaker 11 (47:17):
They just couldn't get anybody to answer the phone, or
you know, they get transferred. So you've got that dynamic
when you have the hollowing out of these agencies and departments,
and then you got you know, the impacts that are
going on you like they said, wage garnishments, you got
tax refund offsets.

Speaker 8 (47:34):
That means that you think you're getting.

Speaker 11 (47:36):
A tax return and you're not going to get it because.

Speaker 8 (47:39):
They're going to use it toward whatever the balance is.

Speaker 11 (47:42):
And then the other thing that follows people for a
long time is the negative credit report stuff. So you know,
somebody's got to do something differently. Here's the last thing too.
You know how Trump always talks about how he loves,
you know, these Norwegian countries, whether it's Norway or Finland,
or Sweden or Denmark or Iceland, in all these countries
that he often you know, wants to emulate.

Speaker 8 (48:05):
It's interesting because all of them.

Speaker 11 (48:06):
If you are a student and you want to go
to a university or a college that's.

Speaker 8 (48:10):
Public, it's free. So that's actually where we should be headed.

Speaker 11 (48:14):
But in this moment, we got to deal with this
particular issue. You know, pick up the phone, send an email,
go up to Capitol Hill and let folks know that
you have some concerns here and that you're.

Speaker 8 (48:25):
Trying to get it right.

Speaker 11 (48:27):
But that is causing you some significant, you know, distress
and harm. And for some folks, you know, it's going
to put them in a bad situation because once you
get negative credit, it just follows you around like a
ball and chain. So but as you said, before you
get what you voted for, you had the opportunity to
actually have somebody who understood what it means to be

(48:48):
out there grinding them, to be out there trying to
do the best that you can. And you decided that
wasn't the individual that you wanted. And then you had
someone who is a billionaire who's never had to worry
or his children never have to worry about going to
college and paying for it. And you chose the individual
who has absolutely no idea who you are and doesn't
care about you. So once again you get what you

(49:10):
vote for.

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It's almost important to fight back.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Donald Trump has been attacking HIVY League schools, like in Harvard.
His an administration sent a letter to Harvard y'all literally saying, hey,
I think that you guys ought to pay us, and sorry,
your law of the federal government have oversight over your
university and allow us to audit the thinkings of faculty,

(51:19):
staff and students.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
They said, go to hell.

Speaker 2 (51:21):
Trump said, well, I'm gonna hold up two point two
trillion billion dollars and grants. They announce the other billion
dollars and they claimed, well, the letter was sent erroneously
or inadvertently, but you actually put it together and you
put it on letterhead. Now Harvard is suing the Trump
administration saying you are breaking the law when it comes
to canceling grant.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
See, here's a deal.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
Trump thinks he's a king, and he thinks that he
can just unilaterally say we're not going to send here
and spend money on grants.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
Here's the only problem. Congress passes laws.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Now, first of all, let me explain this bunch of y'all,
especially you simple simons who actually never read the Constitution
anything dealing with money. To begin in the House of Representatives,
that's actually in the constitution.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
So it begins in the House, bills passing the House,
then it goes to the Senate. Then then another bill's
pass and the Senate. Those two then have a conference
and then they actually sort that thing out. The House
revotes on the agreed to build a Senate revotes and
then goes to the President for the signature.

Speaker 1 (52:18):
That's what happens.

Speaker 2 (52:19):
Congress decides who gets what money, not the executive branch.
So Harvard says, you're actually breaking the law by canceling
grants because Congress has a procedure that's spelled out exactly
how grants can be canceled. As a result, they are
suing administration saying that it violates the university's First Amendment rights.

(52:44):
It also says it violates Titles six of the nineteen
sixty four Civil Rights Act. For me, Terre said, this
is how bullies. This is how you treat bullies. You
punch them back. The problem that we have right now
in this country major law fronds capitulated Trump these executive
orders that were frankly illegal, and instead of fighting him
like they should, they all ran scared and it was like,

(53:06):
oh no, we're gonna cut deals, and the Trump says, fine,
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seeing the news media right now. Bill Owens, who is
who is the head of sixty Minutes?

Speaker 1 (53:21):
What happened?

Speaker 2 (53:22):
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(53:44):
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sixty Minutes priorities have been always been clear, maybe not small,
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(54:05):
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we stand for from every angle over time, with everything
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The show is too important to the country. It has
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(54:26):
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as to Claudia and Debbie, Matt Richmond, Matt Polevoyd. I'm
grateful to all of them. Look, I have worked at
since CBS News for thirty seven years. Within half of
that at sixty Minutes, I have been shot at and

(55:08):
threatened with jail for protecting a source. I've overseen more
than six hundred stories as executive producer of sixty I
know who I am and what I have done to
cover the most important stories of our time under difficult conditions.
I'm also proud to have hired the next generation of
correspondence and to call Leslie, Bill Anderson, Sharon Johnsone, Cilia
and Scott friends, Scott one of my closest Minia, Scott Pelly.

(55:31):
Thank you all remain focused on the moment. Our audience
deserves it.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (55:36):
Now, why did he actually send that, folks? He sent
that memo to the staff because sixty Minutes excuse me,
CBS is being sold. Sheery Redstone is selling a paramount
which owns CBS, which owns sixty minutes to Larry Ellison
and his son. They need the Trump administration to sign
off on it. Trump has filed a multi million dollar

(56:00):
lawsuit against sixty Minutes in CBS and Paramount because he's
mad about their interview with Vice President Kamala Harris, claiming
that they edit it well. Fox News edits all of
his interviews as well. They released their transcripts. Ain't no
big deal. But Sherry Redstone, because she wants her billions,
is willing to settle with Trump. They're going to mediation

(56:22):
because she wants the company sold. Here's what we're dealing with, Teresa.
You've got these billionaires, these ola guards, who care about money.
They don't care about the law. They don't care about integrity.
They don't have morals, they don't have values, they don't
have principles, they don't care about journalistic integrity, they don't

(56:42):
care about the First Amendment. They don't care about these things.
So you're seeing these folks capitulate, You're seeing them bow down.
And Trump knows if he can weaken the colleges, if
he can weaken the press, then he is able to
rule like an autocrat. That's why Harvar's saying, oh, hell no,
we're gonna fight y'all in court is so important because

(57:04):
you've got to punch the bully back.

Speaker 12 (57:08):
These these are such bull moves that have been front
and center of our faces, you know, weeks after weeks,
and you know, it is troubling just to see some
of the latest news that is coming out. And you're
absolutely right ruling when it comes to those of influence
it with money. We've seen it first with super packs

(57:29):
on the political side, and now we're seeing it in
government right, creating an entire entity of doge, of trying
to figure out how to cut a budget and spending
like accountants aren't available and accessible. So there's just so
much going on right now. Glack amongst other universities are

(57:51):
stepping up and suing you know, Attorney general here, Josh
Shapiro is suing the Trump administration.

Speaker 7 (57:59):
So, like Mussafa said earlier, state attorney.

Speaker 12 (58:02):
Generals and local prosecutors are doing their part to make
sure that our cities and states are secure. Unfortunately it
isn't enough, but it is a start to punching back
to an administration that feels like they have the utmost
power and support withinside the walls.

Speaker 7 (58:23):
And again, that.

Speaker 12 (58:23):
Is not government, that is not true journalism, and that
is not democracy.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Oh listen, you can't. You can't sit here and play
games here. And the thing is, if you bow down
this early in the first year, Mustafa, this man does
not have at bottom. He will come back and he
will take, and he will take, and he will take,

(58:51):
and he will take and he will take.

Speaker 1 (58:53):
He is not satisfied.

Speaker 2 (58:55):
His thirst is to decimate you, destroy you, and so
you have to swing back with everything in order to
knock his ass out.

Speaker 11 (59:05):
Yeah, Ludas said you better throw them bows. Some folks
might remember that. I mean, I'm glad that Harvard is
throwing bows. And then you had a number of other
colleges and universities who also signed on to a letter
of support. We'll see what that translates into. But that's
exactly what it is. Anybody who grew up in the street,
anybody who grew up on the playground, you understand what
the dynamics are. If you let a bully continue to

(59:26):
bully you, they will continue to take your lunch money.

Speaker 8 (59:28):
Then they'll take your shoes. Next thing you know, they
done took your pants, and I don't even want to
know what's after that.

Speaker 11 (59:34):
The reality of this situation is is that you just
can't let people run all over you. And this administration
has a game plan, and they understand how to deconstruct
all of the foundational elements inside of this country so
that they can make sure that they have all of
the power. They understand the education is a critical part
of that one. They want them to bow, but they

(59:55):
also want them to change their curricula. They want them
to change who they accept into colleges and universe, so
forth and so on. They understand The other way that
you take over is that you you know, you control
the mechanisms around communication, and of course, whether it's TV
stations or radio stations or whatever it might be that
could help the balance out and help people to get

(01:00:15):
information so they can make an informed decision for themselves.

Speaker 8 (01:00:18):
They're not interested in that.

Speaker 11 (01:00:20):
They want something like the novel nineteen eighty four, where
people are controlling what is being shared, and the only
narrative that you ever receive is what Trump says is reality.
Even when you, with your own eyes and your own ears,
know that there's something different going on, if someone continues
day after day after day to feed you misinformation and disinformation,

(01:00:41):
you will eventually start to believe it and you will cower.

Speaker 8 (01:00:45):
So I'm glad that there are people who are fighting back.

Speaker 11 (01:00:48):
I'm glad people are finally finding a spine because for
the longest time, folks act like they didn't have any cohones.
So you know, you just got to change the dynamic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah, I just think that again, you can't not stand
oddly by and allow this thug to do what he
is doing. Otherwise he is going to continue to take
whatever he wants. I mean, he operates like a mafia thug.
That's who he is, Teresa, call it what it is.

(01:01:18):
And so all those law firms, Oh, he's going to
demand more. He's going to demand your first child, your
first born, your last born, He's going to demand everything,
because this is nothing but retribution. And also somebody posts
us up here that is very interesting. Another reason why
he can't stand Harvard because Harvard, Columbia, and Stanford all wouldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:01:38):
Admit his son. That's who he is.

Speaker 2 (01:01:41):
The amount of money that Columbia he would have to
Columbia for was the exact same amount of money Columbia
turned down a sale to him when he wanted to
acquire some of their property. This is a person who's
about retribution, and this is the person who never should
be allowed to have the level of power that resident
actually has.

Speaker 7 (01:02:03):
You're absolutely right.

Speaker 12 (01:02:04):
This is hopefully a learning curve to Democrats, you know,
as they're gearing up for the mentorms, but also a
call of action of the holes that we do have
in our government right now that is allowing this ability
to even happen from a standing president.

Speaker 7 (01:02:22):
Listen, it is.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
You know, just from my generation, millennial generation, why we're
looking at this like this is not what was told
to us as we were talking about what our black
history is, what our ancestors went through, and as we
see like what's happening today when we talk about like

(01:02:45):
change and you know, is it supposed to what is
it supposed to look like? It seems like we're you know,
essentially going backwards just a bit because of what's happening
right now and our government that it looks like. So
it's not really promising for the next generation. But I
do believe, you know, some of these young voices that
we do have from alc Jasmine Crockett, at least they

(01:03:08):
are standing up to say something. We have a lot
of you know, our sitting elected officials from Congress and
US Congress and Senate that are absolutely not saying anything
because of fear of retribution.

Speaker 7 (01:03:21):
And that just also has to change as well.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Yep, that is absolutely the case. All right, folks are
going to a break. We'll be right back right here
on Rolandmark Unfiltered on the Blackstar Network.

Speaker 13 (01:03:35):
On the next Balance Life, we're talking about the stress
of stress and trigger warning, looking at those areas in
our lives where we often don't turn the page or
turn the corner, but giving us the ability to really
take a deep dive and look at who we are,
the people around us, and the ways in which we're triggered.

Speaker 10 (01:03:52):
A lot of times we are so stressed out because
we are trying to control things that are outside of
our spirit control.

Speaker 13 (01:03:58):
That's all next on a Balanced Life on the Black
Star Network.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
Hey, this is Motown recording artist Kim. You are watching
Roland Martin Unfiltered? Boy?

Speaker 23 (01:04:12):
He always unfiltered though I ain't never known him to
be filtered?

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Speaker 23 (01:04:15):
Is there another way to experience Rolling Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:04:18):
Than to be unfiltered? Course he's unfiltered.

Speaker 23 (01:04:20):
Would you expect anything less? Why watch what happens next?

Speaker 2 (01:04:34):
Well, folks, you had a couple of dumbasters who went
down to Texas, one of them a white supremacist joined
by self hating black man. The white supremacist is Jake Lang,
a January sixth domestic terrorists insurrectionist, joined by Philip Anderson,
another domestic terrorists insurrectionist, And so they went down to Texas.
Regarding the case of Austin Metcalf, he, of course, is

(01:04:57):
the white high school team who staffed to death by
a young black teen Carmelo Anthony and so he's with
a group called Protect White Americans.

Speaker 24 (01:05:09):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:09):
Now again was interesting here is that you have Philip Anderson,
who is black, who is standing with Lang, who is white,
and the group is called Protect White Americans. Well, it
was real interesting because all he doing was he was
going there just to get some attention. Both of them. Well,
they got the attention of Austin Metcalf's father, Jeff, who

(01:05:33):
had some stern words for Lang, basically was, we don't
want you here and go to hell home.

Speaker 8 (01:05:44):
To reduce violo, to get a black community.

Speaker 1 (01:05:50):
I'm here on behalf of the father. Jeff metcalfis Okay, what.

Speaker 9 (01:05:55):
He's asking you is to not use his son's and its.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Light is in what you're doing. If you can do
what you do, but that's not what you want his son.
Out of respect for that.

Speaker 25 (01:06:06):
Family, now, I would ask Jem Metcalf if he would
be bold enough to act like a father of the
deceased young man that was murdered instead of being somebody's suppressed,
worried and he's going to spark the next race riots
your son. He needs to stay for righteousness, not for
cos the consequences of righteous actions always needs to be

(01:06:27):
taken seriously. He needs to be righteous before he is fearful.
He is acting out of fear, not out of righteousness.
He should have been on the top of the bus today.

Speaker 1 (01:06:35):
He should have been standing. You're a father, No I
am not. I'm a fatherow amen, I'm a father. Violence.
As a father, there is this thing called grief. So
let me tell you what's going on in his house.
I think he's getting squatted, his other his only others.
Who's swatting him? The community?

Speaker 6 (01:06:52):
No, we don't know the community, but it's happening.

Speaker 1 (01:06:55):
That's all the police defined.

Speaker 7 (01:06:56):
Secondly, he has.

Speaker 9 (01:06:57):
A son who's a twin and your son God on
his own, so that means he needs to navigate that.
Then his son, who's his only son, is getting death threats.
So as a father, his hands is full of so
the last thing he wants to be tied to that's
is having this complex of race.

Speaker 1 (01:07:13):
So, yes, violence is bad.

Speaker 9 (01:07:15):
Young black men are getting killed every day by young
black men across this country.

Speaker 1 (01:07:19):
Yes, but I'm not a member of that community.

Speaker 25 (01:07:20):
I'm a member of my community, and my community is
being victimized by the community of violent black I mean.

Speaker 6 (01:07:27):
Here's a degenerates, but here's the degenerates.

Speaker 9 (01:07:29):
When you stand up in the name of God, there's
one body, and if you if you're not a part
of that body, I could.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
I could read statistics.

Speaker 25 (01:07:36):
So I'm also a pragmatic human being, so I understand
when there's a problem needs to be addressed head on.

Speaker 1 (01:07:40):
If you tiptoe around the priblem that's how you.

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
Get today so young.

Speaker 9 (01:07:44):
So your biggest concern is the loss of white life
by black men.

Speaker 25 (01:07:48):
People know that's I have I have concerned.

Speaker 6 (01:07:51):
As a repeating pattern.

Speaker 5 (01:07:52):
It doesn't It keeps going on and on and on
and on, and we just any longer.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
We're good.

Speaker 9 (01:07:58):
So I have a one man said, you can more
white people to kill by white people about black people.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Listen by strangers.

Speaker 25 (01:08:04):
It's two to one with every single race and domestic
issues because we live amongst each other, and uncles kill
uncles are drunken barbecues and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 (01:08:12):
It's always the same amount.

Speaker 9 (01:08:14):
So your reason, let me, let me, let me response
this meuse your response needs to get on your bus
and tell people if I but he's not you.

Speaker 1 (01:08:25):
So what I'm saying, I'm telling you so I'm somebody
that stands for.

Speaker 25 (01:08:27):
What I believe you and I know coward when it's
your if your desire.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
It's because of another.

Speaker 1 (01:08:35):
Austin Metcalf does not happen next week like that.

Speaker 25 (01:08:37):
If I was his father, I would stand with you
to say, but yes, but I'm a man.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
We all have com we know his father. Hold on,
we know I'm not speaking for white men. Who are
you following?

Speaker 11 (01:08:50):
Are you?

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
Are you a father?

Speaker 10 (01:08:51):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:53):
Who are not dealing with that?

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Right there, Paul, They're right there. So the brother who
is talking, his name is Bruce Carter. Uh and you
see approaching him. Now what y'all about to see? Y'all
about to see this idiot Philip Anderson. Now Philip Anderson
is the black fool. So he you got a black dude. Okay,
all skin folk and kinfolk standing with this white nationalist,

(01:09:19):
just listen to this fool. And I ain't gonna play
much more of this because they ain't deserving of it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:24):
So just watch this.

Speaker 9 (01:09:26):
So if you want to address, I can give you
after I give this message. The bottom line is this,
you have a father this out of respect, asking you
not to put his son's face in the place. How
do you say you're gonna represent people when you can't
respect the.

Speaker 17 (01:09:39):
Will of the people.

Speaker 1 (01:09:42):
There's too much peanut.

Speaker 6 (01:09:46):
Can we please let me respond?

Speaker 1 (01:09:50):
You believe.

Speaker 6 (01:09:52):
And I listen to this, Austin metcalfit is no longer.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
All these two folds laying and and that other food fillip.
Answer to what they wanted was the media attention. But
what you see here people need to understand that these
idiots exists.

Speaker 1 (01:10:09):
This is how dumb they are.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
And I respect Austin Metcalf's dad who's like, no, I
don't want y'all, I don't want y'all on this. I
don't want y'all near this crap because all y'all are
trying to bring is a whole bunch of bs. That's
all this is up Mustafa, you know. And then he's like, oh,
it's gonna be a race war. No it's not, No,

(01:10:32):
it's not. That's what Lang desperately wants because that's what
he thrives off of. And again, I don't know what
that dumb ass dude, black dude is doing. I mean
I don't know what where he where he could come from.
But then again, if you black, and if you were
stupid enough to be down at the Capitol on January
sixth on the side of Maga. Well, dad, let's know

(01:10:55):
how stupid you are.

Speaker 11 (01:10:58):
I mean, racists are going to be racist, right, Hate
is their oxygen, and when they don't have that, then
they begin to suffocate, they begin to shrink, and that's
why they continue to stoke these fires. You know, it's
interesting because he wanted to talk about statistics, or at
least that's what he said, although we know that that's
not true. If he would even just go over to
the FBI, they have the Union Crime Reporting Program, if

(01:11:19):
it still exists, because they might have gotten rid of
it here recently. It's better known as UCR, and it
actually talks about crime inside of our country, and it's
just what that other brother had shared.

Speaker 8 (01:11:30):
You know, white folks do crime on white.

Speaker 11 (01:11:32):
Folks just like other groups do it, and a lot
of it is proximity and all these different types of
things that are part.

Speaker 8 (01:11:39):
Of the dynamics that go on.

Speaker 11 (01:11:41):
So, you know, trying to make a race war or
all these different types of things is just a part
of the talking points. It's a part of attracting folks
who are you know, who are hurt and in pain,
who are looking for a group to be a part
of and a cause to be a part of. And
what folks should be doing is actually supporting the Metcalf
family as they're going through their moment.

Speaker 8 (01:12:03):
And then of course the other young man.

Speaker 11 (01:12:06):
Who's a part of this, and trying to find ways
of making sure that you know, young men don't find
themselves in these types of situations because we are infusing
positivity and love and a number of other things that
is often missing.

Speaker 8 (01:12:20):
So the courts are going to do what the courts do.

Speaker 11 (01:12:22):
The case will go through and folks will figure out,
you know, what transpired and who was guilty. But on
the other side, the equation is, you know, these individuals
who look for these moments because they have nothing else.
I believe, and I could be incorrect, that Lang is
actually trying to run for office for Marco Rubio's old position,
and you know, nobody knew who he was, so he

(01:12:42):
needs something because he has no policy to actually garner
people's interest.

Speaker 8 (01:12:49):
So you'll see people.

Speaker 11 (01:12:50):
You know, gravitating toward hate and using that as their
platform instead of things that actually uplift community.

Speaker 12 (01:12:57):
Theresa, it's a travesy you know, no one has any
policy ideas, so you know, on the backs of people
who are supposed to be represented by their representative. This
this is what we're doing, you know. But again, the

(01:13:17):
door was wide open for this type of theatrical behavior
in politics when Trump decided to run with no background
in uh government, no curiosity about economics, but pure abuse
and and and.

Speaker 7 (01:13:34):
Solemn you know, hardship.

Speaker 12 (01:13:38):
So this is what we are dealing with because we
have the one who doesn't care about the people.

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
And I think this case is is just amongst many.

Speaker 12 (01:13:47):
You know, you got Lang who literally is wearing the
Trump red tie, is trying to look the part act
apart to get to the White House or somehouse wherever.

Speaker 7 (01:13:58):
But it's it's unfortunate. And again what.

Speaker 12 (01:14:06):
Someone does someone like me who's in communication, I'm also
fighting these battles that's in uh miscommunication and relevancy in
media and accuracy uh thereof. Because what's happening now is
I feel like it's an overkill with so many mainstream
outlets that you know, these smaller ones are just able

(01:14:28):
to find a narrative and just keep.

Speaker 7 (01:14:31):
Poking and poking.

Speaker 12 (01:14:32):
So I don't know, it's just something that we definitely
need to keep our eyes.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
On well again.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
Expect more of these crazy, dimented fools to be out
and that's what is simply going to happen, all right, folks.
Funeral funeral services with Post Frances who passed away on
Monday have been released. The Vatican has announced that Pope
Francis's funeral would take place on Saturday. Have also released
images of the pontive line in a simple wooden open

(01:14:59):
casket in the chapel of the Santa Marta Guesthouse. Folks,
you can show those photos please. Cardinal Kevin Farrell presided
over the certification of death following the Pope's passing in
the age of eighty eight due to a stroke and
heart failure. In his last words, Pope France's reported expressed
gratitude to his aids who facilitated his final appearance in

(01:15:22):
Saint Peter's Square on Easter Sunday, saying thank you for
taking me into the square's carful. When we removed from
the chapel of the Santa Marta guest House Saint Peter's
Basilica on Wednesday, there will be placed by the main
altar for the public to visit and pay their final respects.
After nine days of morning cardinals from around the world
were gathering in the Sistine Chapel to conduct the private
vote to elect the new pope. The process typically takes

(01:15:44):
two to three weeks. In all ballots, of course or
burned afterwards. And we're using a special chemical. If it's
not a pope, it would be black smoke. And then once,
of course they were able to choose a new pope,
it will be white smoke, letting the world know that
a new pope, he has been chosen to oversee the
one point four billion.

Speaker 4 (01:16:04):
Catholics uh worldwide.

Speaker 1 (01:16:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:07):
And so of course, as we said, the pope is
the head of state there in for the Vatican. So
as a result, as a result, you're going to see uh,
many heads of state from around uh the world attend
the funeral on Saturday. And so that is going to

(01:16:27):
be the case. Of course, this right here the Vatican News.

Speaker 15 (01:16:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
Again you look at their video their feed on social media.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
This is this is a photo give me one second
of this is a photo they posted of the Pope the.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
Rosary in his hand.

Speaker 4 (01:16:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
And this is video here again of his body there
and so are you're going to see folks all over
We talked about is passing on yesterday. Mustapha and Teresa
want to give you all an opportunity, uh to speak
ivish extremely consequential. Conservative priests did not like what he
had to say because he challenged them and even rebut

(01:17:07):
many of them, and so as a result, they're hoping
that a conservative pope is chosen will stop for you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
First.

Speaker 11 (01:17:15):
Well, you know, he was the pope of the people right,
which was incredibly refreshing.

Speaker 8 (01:17:20):
He cared about the unheard and the unseen.

Speaker 11 (01:17:23):
He cared about those who were vulnerable and marginalized, and
wanted to make sure that he uplifted, you know, the
things that they were going through. And I think that's
the reason that he resonated with so many people across
the planet. I once I'm not Catholic, but I've heard
him speak a few different times, and I remember one
time from the Book of James, he talked about faith

(01:17:44):
without works is dead. And I think about, you know,
his life and how he was always one who made
sure that people understand that faith was important, but it
was also about who you are uplifting, who are you
bringing in, who are you helping to protect and that's
why I think he will always be remembered, and that
is also why some of those who are maybe more

(01:18:07):
conservative in the doctrine did not see the greatness of
what he was able to accomplish. So rest in peace
and thank you for everything that you did for humanity
while you were here.

Speaker 7 (01:18:21):
Yeah, I can say the same.

Speaker 12 (01:18:25):
You know, I think one of the proponents that he's
so forth that was noteworthy. You know, he was an
advocate for the poorer marginalized, so emphasize and social justice
and called for global efforts to address poverty and the
rights of refugees and migrants.

Speaker 7 (01:18:46):
You know, he was a bridge bridge builder, uh.

Speaker 12 (01:18:49):
You know, he loved this simplistic life by living in
a modest guest house rather than the papal palace. So
you know, his deep commitment to humility was just a
similar way of life. He made himself really you know,
part of the people and focused on pastoral care over politics.

(01:19:13):
And I think, you know, as we are looking for
those type of servant leaders, you know, regardless of religion,
but you know, him being the pope, those are the
type of attributes that when choosing the next pope to
rent over the Catholicism.

Speaker 2 (01:19:39):
So folks, we will of course be carrying that funeral
live here on the Black Star Network. All right, going
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We'll be right back next on the Black Team. I
understand how was that in the script?

Speaker 16 (01:20:41):
But the enormous impacted race education and deffirmative action in
America and how believe it at not white America is
starting to feel a little bit of the day, doctor
Natasha Wurk, who joins us to the case study of
one suburban community and how it reacted when the ority
students started to.

Speaker 17 (01:21:02):
Accept And most people didn't say this explicitly, but was that.
You know, the academics are getting standards are getting higher
in part because of the Asian kids.

Speaker 12 (01:21:10):
And that is making our kids really stressed out.

Speaker 14 (01:21:14):
So we need to reduce the amount.

Speaker 5 (01:21:15):
Of homework teachers are allowed to assign.

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and you're watching Roland Mark Unfilitario.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
Okay, this says Karen.

Speaker 2 (01:22:06):
Kareem Torrans was last seeing in Philadelphia on April eleventh.
The twelve year old is five feet nine inches tall.
Weis one hundred and forty pounds with black hair and
brown eyes. Anyone with information about Kareem Torrents should call
the Philadelphia Police Department at two one five six SAG
sixty three one five three two one five six SAIN
sixty three one five three. I've repeatedly told y'all these

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macic of people don't give a damn about regular ordinary people.
Rental assistance money for seniors uh and for single moms
is running out. People are at risk of losing their
homes because the Emergency Housing Voucher program is running out
of money. The program was a lifeline for nearly sixty
thousand households, helping folks escape being homeless, domestic violence, and
even in human trafficking. But Hudd says the funding will

(01:22:48):
run out at the end of the year unless Congress
steps in.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
If these vouchers disappear.

Speaker 2 (01:22:52):
We could see one of the largest mass evictions in
US history. I don't think for a second, Musty, that
these people give a damn, And I wouldn't be surprised
if they allow it to run out. And if the
Republicans say they're not going to fund it because they
want their billionaire millionaire tax breaks.

Speaker 8 (01:23:11):
I mean you hit it right on the head.

Speaker 11 (01:23:12):
I mean I would be very surprised also if they
stepped up and did the right thing, you know, and
they're just going to continue to create these chaotic situations.
They're continuing to put people in these survival situations, and
it just doesn't make any sense. You know, these are
in many instance folks who are hard working folks are
just trying to be able to survive, trying to keep

(01:23:35):
a roof over their head, and to not to do
the right thing and.

Speaker 8 (01:23:38):
To make sure that folks have this.

Speaker 11 (01:23:40):
Assistance just shows that, you know, the dehumanization of individuals
who are currently in office, and it's so unfortunate because
it's just going to make these very challenging situations get
so much more intense.

Speaker 12 (01:23:56):
Teresa, Yeah, I'd be surprised. We have currently not only
people are losing their homes doing enough funding shores, but
also food banks that serve underserved communities are also at
federal arrests. A lot of them are not getting their

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food to serve those who cannot have food in the
morning to feed their families or their children if they're
going to school.

Speaker 7 (01:24:24):
So again, same chaotic behavior.

Speaker 12 (01:24:28):
More leaders that are in position need to step up
and address it a little bit louder, but also putting
their feet to the fire and do something more because
this is again, is another outrage because of these people
lose their homes, where are they going? So it's a
trickle down effect that I'm not even sure the ones
who are even thinking about, oh, let's just cut the

(01:24:49):
funding are thinking about on a whole another scale on
how they, you know, are creating additional hardship for people
that they are.

Speaker 7 (01:24:59):
Wanting to protect.

Speaker 2 (01:25:00):
Indeed, indeed, all right, y'all, today is Earth Day celebrated
all around the world. But the couple of things that
I just I mean, it's a lot of things we
could talk about when it comes to the climate, how.

Speaker 1 (01:25:12):
Do we take care of Earth?

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
But I was saw this clip earlier and I usually
ignore stupid people who believe that the Earth is flat.

Speaker 4 (01:25:27):
I really do.

Speaker 1 (01:25:28):
Okay, but that was a debate.

Speaker 2 (01:25:32):
On Joe Budden's podcast and rapper with Khalifa says he
believed the Earth is flat. But I'm gonna show y'all
a couple of things that makes this utterly hilarious.

Speaker 4 (01:25:43):
So let me first play this.

Speaker 20 (01:25:47):
Is the Earth round?

Speaker 7 (01:25:49):
I would say, no, who shape is it?

Speaker 26 (01:25:53):
I just believe that we live on a flat plane. Yeah,
like a huge flat plane. Yeah, it's only because I've.

Speaker 24 (01:26:01):
Traveled so much and I see like you ever get
to the edge of the earth. Nah, it's not that
there's more. I think that there's more masses than just
what we see, just because we lived it was one
thing before and it's spread.

Speaker 14 (01:26:15):
Out so it's layered like a pastry.

Speaker 26 (01:26:17):
I wouldn't say layered like a pastry. I would just
saying like if this rug was was the world, we
would probably.

Speaker 8 (01:26:23):
Be like over there somewhere, and then.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
There's just ways that we haven't discovered, got it.

Speaker 26 (01:26:28):
Yeah, Yeah, that's what I think, because when I travel
the routes that we take and how we do it, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:26:35):
Not possible to go up and down. You're just going straight.

Speaker 4 (01:26:40):
I never thought about that.

Speaker 26 (01:26:41):
Yeah, yeah, that's the only reason I think that dog.

Speaker 8 (01:26:52):
Of course, you can pay it for a second, just
for a second.

Speaker 26 (01:26:59):
I never was on one place and then went to
the other coast from that place.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
It all. You always go the long way.

Speaker 7 (01:27:06):
You never just go like like.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
How they talk about emergency landings and ship emergency landings
don't really be what would make sense if you was
looking at the map.

Speaker 6 (01:27:17):
This might give me an edible.

Speaker 1 (01:27:20):
That's what that.

Speaker 24 (01:27:22):
So why are we talking about conspiracy?

Speaker 14 (01:27:26):
Is the Earth round?

Speaker 7 (01:27:27):
I would say, no, which shape is it?

Speaker 21 (01:27:36):
Like?

Speaker 2 (01:27:36):
I said, no, no, no, no, no not yet, no,
don't switch it?

Speaker 1 (01:27:44):
Why I told y'all, normally I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48):
I don't play really stupid people.

Speaker 1 (01:28:02):
So when I typed.

Speaker 2 (01:28:05):
With Khalifa in Twitter search box, I typed his name
in and there are four categories. There's top latest people. Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:28:33):
Four days ago, Complex.

Speaker 4 (01:28:38):
Posted a tweet.

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
And don't go to it yet.

Speaker 2 (01:28:48):
Tweet says Wi's Khalifa Cush plus Orange.

Speaker 4 (01:28:55):
Juice two out.

Speaker 1 (01:28:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
That means that they have a new album out. This
is the album cover.

Speaker 1 (01:29:27):
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:29:30):
The inside of it. This is the album cover.

Speaker 1 (01:29:50):
M hm h.

Speaker 4 (01:29:55):
M Mustafa.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58):
I'm uh Mustapha.

Speaker 4 (01:30:07):
I'm confused.

Speaker 2 (01:30:13):
If you go on a podcast m hm and say
the earth is flat? Why your ass don't put a
flat ass photo on your album cover of the earth.
Maybe you know what, here's what I think it is.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
Maybe he gave that answer.

Speaker 2 (01:30:41):
Maybe gone ahead and show the album cover again, you know,
maybe he gave.

Speaker 1 (01:30:51):
You know, Mustapha, it just hit me.

Speaker 2 (01:30:55):
Maybe he gave that answer. Maybe he gave that answer
because with the album cover. With the album cover, I
think the album cover is covered with weed, So I

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think he was high as hell when they were talking
on the show about the Earth being flat.

Speaker 11 (01:31:38):
What you think, who my goodness, No, somebody was definitely blazing.
If he wasn't blazing, then I'm then I'm that I'm
really concerned. I mean, there are all kinds of ways
of getting at that. The scientific response is that the
Earth is actually an o blade spiroid. What that means
is that bulge is a little bit at the equators

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on the top on the north and south, it's a
little bit flatter, so it is sphierical.

Speaker 8 (01:32:03):
You know, it is a circle for folks.

Speaker 11 (01:32:06):
But besides that, I mean, all you got to do
is look at whether it is a satellite who's taking
pictures or the missions that have gone to the Moon
or the space station. When they show the pictures, you
can very much see that it is that it is circular.
I'll use very common language as I go through this.
So you had to be high to be able.

Speaker 8 (01:32:26):
To be able to positively justify you sharing that. But
there's another part that's not funny is that you know.

Speaker 11 (01:32:32):
For folks who have influence when they share these types
of things. There are all kinds of people, hopefully not
all kinds. There are few folks out there who actually
hear it and believe it. And that's another reason why
we need to make sure that education.

Speaker 8 (01:32:46):
Is enhanced inside of our country.

Speaker 11 (01:32:48):
We got to make sure that that folks understand at
least basic science and basic math. You don't have to be,
you know, a physicist or an astrophysicist to understand, you know,
some of the these basic types of things that are
so critically important.

Speaker 8 (01:33:03):
The other thing, too, is is that it's somebody from
our community.

Speaker 11 (01:33:05):
I love hip hop, but when folks from our community
begin to also share misinformation, I'm gonna say misinformation and
not disinformation because I want to make sure that I'm
giving grace to this brother that he wasn't intentionally telling
people the wrong thing. Now, when it gets back to
the album cover, maybe he had nothing to do with
the album cover because he could see that the Earth

(01:33:27):
is round and that, you know, I.

Speaker 8 (01:33:31):
Guess in his idea of the world.

Speaker 11 (01:33:33):
You know, we should have more opportunities for our edibles
and more opportunity to zone out.

Speaker 8 (01:33:39):
But in this moment, we can't afford to zone out.

Speaker 11 (01:33:42):
Because there are people who actually would love to take
education away from kids inside of our community.

Speaker 8 (01:33:48):
So let's make sure.

Speaker 11 (01:33:49):
That whatever we share when we're on the airwaves, that
it is accurate and that is not something that could
be harmful to the next sets of generations who will
have to deal with lack of access to education.

Speaker 2 (01:34:03):
See, Teresa, it's some shit I'm not gonna talk about
with some people. Bring your ass on here, talk about

(01:34:26):
your album, talk about music, talk about fashion, but we're
not gonna start talking about stuff that you have no
idea what the hell you're talking about. I well, I
ain't never really flew from one place to the up
to the other.

Speaker 1 (01:34:45):
I ain't never like, ain't nothing spinning, ain't nothing moving,
Ain't I just.

Speaker 2 (01:34:56):
I wish some I know, I don't. Folks don't want
me to cuss, and I'm trying not to cuss. But
this right here is I need some rappers, I need
some entertainers.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I need some media people to shut up.

Speaker 2 (01:35:17):
Just don't even see you saw Mark Lamont Hill like,
because see Mark has actually had debates on his podcast
with some fools on this very topic. And I text
Mark and I said, Mark just tell me you were just.

Speaker 4 (01:35:35):
Doing it to get some clicks.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
But if Wiz Khalifa was sitting in this studio and
said that to me, I would literally say, Wiz, just
tell me you high or you just out your damn mind.
This To me, this ain't that difficult.

Speaker 12 (01:35:58):
So you're absolutely right and go back to Mustapha's point
that that was just a missed opportunity. Ye had Angela
Ryes uh there as well some very intellect that.

Speaker 1 (01:36:07):
Was al was Melissa Ford.

Speaker 7 (01:36:11):
Okay, so I saw it as a glimpse, but.

Speaker 2 (01:36:17):
I saw a light black woman and he thought that
was Angela. No, that's not Melissa Ford.

Speaker 12 (01:36:23):
That's good to do, but but yeah, there was just
a firm opportunity to really clear it up because you know,
I'm sure that clip probably got millions of views, and
so you know, when you know you have somebody like
Wis cleyff Is saying that that the Earth is flat,
somebody could have literally just pulled up his album cover,
then why is the earth round on your album cover?

Speaker 7 (01:36:46):
Like why is it an actual circle? I know wis
Cleyfland probably.

Speaker 12 (01:36:49):
Because he's from you know, Pennsylvania, Uh, well Pittsburgh, not Philly.

Speaker 7 (01:36:54):
But uh, and he's.

Speaker 12 (01:36:56):
Probably traveled on I ninety five quite some time in
I eighty, so it does look a little flat. But
you know, I'm not sure what happened there as he's
you know, thinking about what Earth Day really means to
him and the Gaja. But again, that is a miss
opportunity to educate so we can and it didn't have

(01:37:17):
to be harsh, you know, it could have just clearly
been the let's stop there. The world is not flat,
it is round, because right, And I think he would
have taken that like, oh that makes sense. But if
no one's educating someone and they go into another podcast
and say the same exact thing, or they then doubled

(01:37:37):
down with a tweet, you know, high or not, this
is how misinformation spreads. And again as we have more
of our younger generation on social where you know, Whiskylyfa,
you're not seeing him on mainstream television, you are seeing
him on social media, on podcasts, on digital platforms, they
are picking this up.

Speaker 7 (01:37:58):
And saying, well, my so worse is what's khalifa?

Speaker 12 (01:38:02):
You know, So they're one in the classroom telling the
teacher that the earth is flat and it's not so.

Speaker 2 (01:38:09):
And this right, here is while we got some clueless
ass people when it comes to politics, when it comes
to what's happening in.

Speaker 1 (01:38:19):
News, and.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Just the other day, just the other day, somebody came
up in me and they said, Roland, can you believe
that this person does not believe that we landed on
the moon. And this millennial literally tried to tell me
that we never landed on the moon, and that could

(01:38:46):
have been in the studio. And you know what I said,
I need both of y'all to get the hell out
my face. I need y'all not to even talk to me.
I said, don't even look at me, because what I
cannot I am not even going to entertain that level

(01:39:07):
of stupidity that we didn't land on the moon. I
can't stand conspiracy theorists. And I didn't even want to
waste any of our precious time discussing this. And just
so y'all know, the only reason I'm even discussing this
is because we were supposed to go live at seven

(01:39:28):
point thirty to the target boycott town Hall, but they
ass is late. That's the only reason this made the cut,
and so otherwise it would have never even made this broadcast.

Speaker 1 (01:39:41):
This is what we call stretching.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
But I just think, Mustafa, we got to learn to
tell some people.

Speaker 1 (01:39:48):
I ain't even gonna entertain stupidity.

Speaker 2 (01:39:51):
It's just I just we just got to say no,
y'all just too stupid for me to even discuss. So
why don't you go ahead, you the big time environmentalist,
Why don't you just go ahead and talk to folk
about the importance of Earth Day before I start cussing.

Speaker 11 (01:40:10):
Yeah, no, So let's make sure you ain't gonna cuss
nobody out. You know, it's interesting when we look at
Earth Day. You know, April twenty second, nineteen seventy was
the initial day where you had all kinds of different
people from across the country coming together because there were
real significant things that were happening at that time. You
literally had rivers catching on fire because there was so

(01:40:31):
much pollution that was in them. The Cayahoga River there
in Ohio literally caught on fire. It didn't catch on
fire once, it caught on fire a number of times,
but that was one of the things that really caught
the country's attention. And then and lots of different locations
across the country leading up to nineteen seventy, you had
places where you couldn't even see the sun in the

(01:40:51):
sky because there was so much small and of course
that you know, does some really dangerous things to people's
lungs and a number of types of things.

Speaker 8 (01:41:00):
So you had all these people.

Speaker 11 (01:41:01):
Who got together at that time, and because of the activism,
because so many folks who had came out of the
anti war movement and the environmental movement, they were able
to push to get many of the landmark pieces of
legislation that we now take for granted, you know, whether
it's the Clean Air Act or the Clean Water Act
or some of the others that are so critically important

(01:41:21):
and making sure that you have cleaner water to be
able to drink and you know, cleaner air to be
able to breathe. The missing component was that no one
at that time was talking about environmental racism or environmental
injustice in any significant way. So there was this gap
that existed inside of the environmental movement for decades and

(01:41:42):
decades until the environmental justice aspect began to move forward.

Speaker 8 (01:41:46):
And then thankfully Warren to you rolling when you came.

Speaker 11 (01:41:50):
Down to Warren County, North Carolina, which is one of
the flashpoints whereas the Black community that those PCBs were
being cited in. You know, we continue each and every
day to fight to get the attention on the impacts
that are happening inside of our community.

Speaker 8 (01:42:06):
So I always honor Earth Day.

Speaker 11 (01:42:08):
I appreciate people talking about, you know, making sure that
we are protecting the trees and that we are protecting
you know, Mother Earth. But we also got to bring
it down to the level where folks, whether it's in Flint, Michigan,
or Jackson, Mississippi, or a number of other locations across
our country, are dealing with these lead issues and kids
having difficulty learning because of being exposed to all these

(01:42:29):
chemicals or all the super fun sites and brownfield sites
that have all this toxic pollution that often gets located
either in our communities or near our communities, or the
fact that we've got, you know, from the Harvard study,
you know, over three hundred thousand people who are dying
prematurely from the burning of fossil fuels from that air pollution.

(01:42:51):
More people are dying from air pollution inside of our
communities that are dying from gun violence, or from overdoses
of drugs, or even from at the hands of police.
So when we talk about Earth Day, Yes, we should
honor it appreciate all the gains that we've made, but
we also have the reality of the impacts that are
still happening in black communities across our country and brown

(01:43:11):
communities on indigenous lands in a number of other locations.
And now we have an administration that is doing everything
in its power to eliminate.

Speaker 8 (01:43:21):
Environmental justice from not only.

Speaker 11 (01:43:24):
The federal conversation, but the resources that are necessary to
help our communities move from surviving to thriving. And they're
also trying to make sure that science is no longer
being honored or utilized.

Speaker 8 (01:43:37):
So that you know, when we think about you know
Whiz and the.

Speaker 11 (01:43:41):
Statements that he's making, it just goes to show why
we have to make sure that we are investing in
our communities, in our schools to make sure that our
students have the ability to become engineers and scientists or
poets or whatever it might be, because everybody has the
opportunity to be able to give back using that gift
that they have, and education is one part of that,

(01:44:05):
but the other part of it is understanding that there
are people on the front lines who each and every
day are literally dying for a breath of fresh air,
who are dying to make sure that they have.

Speaker 8 (01:44:16):
Clean water to drink.

Speaker 11 (01:44:18):
And then you know, we had Catherine Coleman Flowers on
not long ago where she was talking about people literally
walking in human waste.

Speaker 8 (01:44:26):
And it's in our communities where.

Speaker 11 (01:44:28):
We often find, you know, the lack of infrastructure, you know,
so sewers and everything else, all that waste ends up
running back into our communities.

Speaker 8 (01:44:39):
Or you have the chicken farms and the hog farms
that people are being placed to and the smells are overwhelming,
along with the pollution that often impacts people's clean water,
whether it is surface water or the water that they're
trying to drink.

Speaker 11 (01:44:55):
So in this moment, when we think about Earth Day,
we understand how incredibly important that moment was and everything
that built up to the time that we're in. But
we can never ever forget about our most vulnerable communities
who are continuing to fight each and every day to
be able to move from surviving to thriving.

Speaker 2 (01:45:16):
Mustova mentioned what took place in Warren County a few
years ago. A couple of years ago, with the Body
Administration went there that is the home of environmental justice
where black people were fighting there in the seventies. We
were actually the only national media outlet there was live
streaming that event. So this is what Michael Reagan he
was speaking. Let's just show you some of what he

(01:45:36):
had to say.

Speaker 21 (01:45:37):
So not only did this community make a fuss, this
community ignited a movement, and today Warren County is synonymous
with being the birthplace of environmental justice.

Speaker 1 (01:45:48):
I was a perfect toss.

Speaker 21 (01:45:55):
You know, those protests forty years ago were not only
a catalyst for the environmental justice move men as we
know of today, but it was a real awakingness of
the consciousness of this community that had been underserved and
overburdened for so many years. It demonstrates the transformative potential
that exists when people peacefully mobilize and come together in

(01:46:19):
a common pursuit. As Miss Dolly Burwell put it, African
Americans determined that henceforth and forevermore will have some say
in the government that was controlling our destiny. So despite
losing the initial battle, these visionary women and men spark

(01:46:39):
something so much bigger, so much more powerful. And that's
what we're here today to honor and to uplift the
reason We've reached this moment, This moment when when environmental
justice is front and center to President Biden's agenda and
EPA's agenda, is because of the unrelenting advocacy of so

(01:47:03):
many of you here today. It's because of faith leaders
and civil rights leaders, the labor community, the environmental justice community,
folks like Vernice Miller, Travis, doctor Bob Bullard, Reverend Barber,
doctor Wright Juan and Honor Parus, and young leaders like
my good friend Lemisha Whittington, William Barbara.

Speaker 6 (01:47:28):
The Third who are carrying this sacred mission forward.

Speaker 21 (01:47:33):
These are the people who have dedicated their lives to
standing up and speaking out against racism and injustice and inequality,
and they are finally being heard at the highest levels
of the land, from Warren County to.

Speaker 6 (01:47:48):
The White House.

Speaker 21 (01:47:50):
On Day one of this administration, President Biden directed every
single member of his cabinet to embed environmental justice and
racial equity to all of our decision making. And you know,
I'm proud to say that EPA is at the heart

(01:48:11):
of that mission.

Speaker 6 (01:48:12):
As administrati've had the privilege to travel.

Speaker 21 (01:48:14):
Across the country and see firsthand the injustices communities of color,
low income communities and tribal communities.

Speaker 6 (01:48:20):
Continue to endure.

Speaker 21 (01:48:22):
Last November, I launched the Journey to Justice tour, and
I spent time in Jackson, Mississippi, Louisiana, and Texas, meeting.

Speaker 6 (01:48:30):
With communities on their front.

Speaker 21 (01:48:31):
Porches, in their churches, and in their schools. And the
conditions that I saw on the ground were deeply troubling.
I'm talking about children going to school right next door
to chemical plants, elementary school students using porter potties because
of failing water infrastructure, and generations of families living in

(01:48:55):
the shadows of petrochemical facilities. In my time as administrated,
I've met with mothers whose children have been poisoned by
the lead in the water, the water they dream, elders,
our grandparents who must bathe with bottle waters, families watching
as the flood waters continue to rise. Perhaps one of

(01:49:17):
the most egregious examples of systemic injustice you've heard it
today is Lowndes County, Alabama. Lownes County, which sits right
in the middle of Highway eighty between Selma and Montgomery,
was a well spring for the civil rights.

Speaker 6 (01:49:32):
Movement, the birth of the Black Panther Party.

Speaker 21 (01:49:37):
Lowndes County became known as Bloody Lownes because when organizers
and protesters attempted to register black people, they.

Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
Were beaten and battered, even evicted from their homes.

Speaker 21 (01:49:47):
So I visited Lowndes County so that I could see
up close.

Speaker 6 (01:49:50):
To the injustices that folks have been living with for decades.

Speaker 21 (01:49:53):
Pipes protruding from the side of their homes, spilling raw
sewage in the same places.

Speaker 6 (01:49:59):
Where they're children play.

Speaker 21 (01:50:01):
I'll never forget two beautiful children that I met, the
toys scattered around.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
A lagoon filled with waste.

Speaker 21 (01:50:08):
It was as if these children were conditioned to accept
that this is the.

Speaker 6 (01:50:14):
Way it's supposed to be.

Speaker 21 (01:50:17):
But that's not the way it's supposed to be, Not
for those children in Lownes County, not for the children
in Jackson, Mississippi, not for the children anywhere in the
United States of America. So from Lownes County, Alabama, to
Warren County, North Carolina, these communities show us that the
fight for civil rights and environmental justice are inseparable.

Speaker 6 (01:50:40):
For health justice, for.

Speaker 21 (01:50:42):
Racial justice, for economic justice, for climate justice.

Speaker 6 (01:50:47):
We cannot be for one without being for the other.

Speaker 21 (01:50:51):
President Biden and Vice President Harris.

Speaker 6 (01:50:53):
They understand this viscerally.

Speaker 21 (01:50:56):
The President and Vice President see everybody for who they
are and who they can be.

Speaker 6 (01:51:02):
When they're given the opportunity to soar.

Speaker 21 (01:51:05):
So, from Justice forty to the bipartid Infrastructure Law to
the Historic Inflation Reduction Act, we are finally ensuring that
communities who have long borne the burden of pollution see, breathe,
and feel the benefits of the federal government's investments.

Speaker 6 (01:51:23):
It's about changing how our.

Speaker 21 (01:51:26):
Government works and who it works for, something that so
many of you today have dedicated your lives to realizing.
So if we're going to change how the system works,
we have to change the structure of the system.

Speaker 6 (01:51:40):
And that's exactly what we're going to do.

Speaker 21 (01:51:43):
I couldnt be proud of.

Speaker 2 (01:51:45):
Unfortunately, unfortunately, after the EPA did the trip, administration completely
decimated that because they call all of that DEI and
so again, this is what we always say, we talk
about how elections have consequence.

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stream it for you live. We're gonna go ahead and
close the show out. Let me thank Mustaf and Teresa
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and so again, once we have this straightened out, we're
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