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7.16.2025 #RolandMartinUnfiltered: Trump’s Voter Data Grab, Guard Exits LA, Judge Strikes Down Medical Debt Rule, CARES & U‑FIGHT Act

The Trump administration and its allies are pushing to obtain voter data from states and inspect voting equipment. We'll discuss the implications with the Director of the Voting Rights Project.

Two thousand National Guard troops deployed to Los Angeles over a month ago, following protests against immigration enforcement raids, are being withdrawn.

A federal judge strikes down a Biden administration rule removing medical debt from credit reports. We'll talk with a former Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau about what this means for consumers.

National CARES is a pioneering initiative tackling the devastating impact of intergenerational poverty. We'll speak with the organization's new president about their mission and impact.

This week, Senator Angela Alsobrooks and Congresswoman Shontel Brown introduced the U-FIGHT Act, a bold step toward expanding early detection and funding research to save the lives of Black women. Congresswoman Brown and a medical expert will be here to discuss the importance of this Act, especially for black women.

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Speaker 1 (00:14):
Today's Wednesday of July sixteenth, twenty twenty five, Coming up
on rolland Martin nonfiltered streaming live on the Blackstar Network.
Donald Trump and the allies are push you to obtain
voter data from.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
States and inspect voting equipment. What the hell are they doing?
On will discuss the implications.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
The director of the Voting Rights Project. Two thousand National
Guard troops deployed to LA over the month ago following
protest against immigration enforcement are being withdrawn. A federal judge
strikes down a Biden administration rule removing medical debt from
credit reports. We'll talk with the former director of the
Consumer Financial Protection and Bureau about this issue. National Cares

(00:51):
was a pioneering initiative tackling the defastiting impact of their
generational poverty. We'll talk with the organizations and new president.
Also this week, Senator Angela also Brooks and Congress and
Shawn tel Brown introduced the You Fight Act, a bull
step towards expanding early detection and funding researchers say the
lives of Black women dealing with uterindum fibroids. We'll talk

(01:11):
with congress Woman in Brown and the medical expert about
this particular issue. Also, I did a little test on
Instagram dealing with the issue of costco and black owned businesses.

Speaker 2 (01:24):
A whole lot of y'all failed the test. I will explain.
Plus Bill Maher, he still continues to show.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
How much of an ass he is. Wait till you
y'all hear the latest one. It's time to bring the funk,
a rolling unfiltered of a black stud network.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Let's got what he's doing it whatever it is.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
God to believes he's right on top and is going
best belief, he's going funk, He's lost and news to
politics with entertainment.

Speaker 5 (01:58):
Just buck case he's.

Speaker 4 (02:16):
He spoke, he spress, She's real the question, No, he's
roll in monte.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
There we go.

Speaker 6 (02:34):
Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
Donald Trump and his allies are seeking voter data from
various states and have requested access to inspect voting equipment.
They concerns regarding election officials and the integrity of the
electoral system.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
All they keep going on with this nonsense.

Speaker 1 (02:51):
Of course, this is what we can expect from a
twice in peach criminally connected felon in chief Donald the
com Trump, who continues to lie about him losing. In
twenty twenty that Joe Biden, suck it up, you actually
lost in Coloradoway White House consultant asked we held county
clerks to allow federal officials or a third party to
examine voting machines. Republicant election clerk Carly Cops denied the request. Separately,

(03:13):
the Justice Department requested the copies of voter rolls from
nine states, and at least two states comply with their request,
joining us down as Robert Winer, director of the Voting
Rights Product and the Law's Committee for Civil Rights under Law, Robert,
what the hell's going on here?

Speaker 7 (03:28):
What's going on is a concerted effort to undermine public
confidence and the integrity of our voting system. The fact
is that the problems with our voting system really relate
to who's excluded, not who's included. We don't have a
fraud problem of any significance. We don't have a problem

(03:49):
with non citizen voting. This is an effort to undermine
confidence in the election.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
For what purpose do you? You can figure that out?

Speaker 7 (04:00):
You know what he's going to do come November, and.

Speaker 8 (04:05):
He's well on the way.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Well, what's so crazy about this is that you've got
these You've got Republican secretaries of the state who said, no,
there were no issues with the voting and they don't.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Care about that. In all of these different.

Speaker 1 (04:18):
States, Texas and Georgia and others begin to change their
procedures after twenty twenty, it just goes to show you
just how insane they are about constantly raising this particular point,
and it just literally makes no sense whatsoever.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
You know, it's important to remember that back in December
of twenty twenty, Trump had drafted an executive order.

Speaker 8 (04:46):
To these voting machines, and you know.

Speaker 7 (04:49):
Adult supervision prevailed then and it didn't happen. But I
don't think any of us has confidence that adult supervisions
could have prevailed now. And you know, the executive order
he issued really goes after voting machines. And we've established
that voting machines are not a problem, that they have

(05:12):
integrity in work, it's not an issue.

Speaker 1 (05:18):
Well, listen, it seems like this is a constant phishing
expedition on their part, and it just they keep trying
to bring it up over and over and over again.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
Well, we just need to get the message out to
the public.

Speaker 8 (05:33):
This is not something they have to worry about.

Speaker 7 (05:35):
That our electoral system, whatever issues it has, it is
reliable and the effort to undermine confidence in it should.

Speaker 8 (05:47):
Not take hold. It is really not a problem that
we have to deal with, all.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Right, Robert, we still appreciate it. We'll keep pressing this
issue as well.

Speaker 8 (06:02):
Good Thank you very much, keep on plugging.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
I appreciate it. Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Again, folks, I need us to understand what we're dealing
with and the kind of people we are dealing with.
We're talking about Republicans here, who are trying all they
can to sow seeds of doubt in everything.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
And again, the dude can't stand in the fact that
he lost.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
I mean, he lost, and so all they do is
complain over and over again. And it's just five years later,
I mean after even after winning again in twenty twenty four.
It's just the whining and the whining and the complaining
and it's over. And that's all you see coming from
Trump and the Republicans. And it's just it's just one

(06:56):
thing after another.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
This is what they do.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
And uh, you know, and again they want to target
blue states and frankly, look, I'm with these folks.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
I don't trust these people at all. I don't. I
don't trust them at all. I don't trust any of them.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
I don't trust this just the Trump the Department of Justice. Uh,
these people will do all they can to muck up
these elections. That's what they'll do. So I'm just I'm
just letting you know I don't trust them at all.
I want to bring my pound Joy Cheney Final Joy
Strategies out of Washington, d C. Rebecca Carother's President's CEO,
Fair Election Center out of DC. Kendall Brown Content creator

(07:31):
out of Wichita, Kansas. Lad to have all three of
y'all here, Rebecca. We go through this over and over
and over again with these nutcases, and it never ceases.

Speaker 9 (07:44):
You know, absolutely, Roland.

Speaker 6 (07:45):
If Republicans actually want to make sure that we have
integrity as millions of Americans go all right difficulties, then
they need to support the John Lewis Voting Rights Events
CEMENT Act, which has been introduced every year, is going
to be introduced in the next coming weeks. It's an

(08:06):
opportunity for them to look for ways to strengthen the
voting processes in this country, making sure that every person
who is eligible to vote and who wants to vote
and participate in the elections are able to do so,
It's very simple.

Speaker 10 (08:20):
They could do.

Speaker 9 (08:20):
This through legislation.

Speaker 6 (08:22):
The Supreme Court even asked the Congress to act, and
that was the justification for rolling back parts of the
Voting Rights Act that the Supreme Court did. They said, Hey, Congress,
actually we're going to kick it back to you. You
need to do a legislative fix. So there is a
legislative fix that Republicans could sign on to, that could

(08:42):
contact Senator John on Warnock, that could contact.

Speaker 9 (08:49):
You know, if they were actually interested in making.

Speaker 6 (08:51):
Sure that our rules are current, that our rules are good.

Speaker 9 (08:55):
But one thing I would tell all of the.

Speaker 6 (08:56):
Viewers is going into the twenty six election, we need
as many folks as possible to show up to vote
because if we're seeing that this administration is trying to
meddle into the integrity of the elections, the only way
to overcome that is if we have so many people,
overwhelming number of people of good conscious who show up
to the polls.

Speaker 11 (09:18):
Absolutely, joy No, I mean that's you know, Rebecca is right,
and let me just say, this is serious business. But
I'm I have to acknowledge my link, sister, my story
looked really beautiful tonight.

Speaker 9 (09:32):
It's good to be.

Speaker 11 (09:32):
On with you. You know what she said is right. I
remember when we won. I think it was the when
Barack Obama won the second time.

Speaker 9 (09:43):
One of the things that.

Speaker 11 (09:44):
People said is we went to the polls not just
for him, but for ourselves, because they had attacked the
right to vote and they were threatening our ability to
go to the polls, and so this time we must
overwhelm them with it. Do not worry about whether or
not your vote is going to count.

Speaker 9 (10:02):
Don't let lawyers worry about that.

Speaker 11 (10:04):
You just have to show up and be careful about
trying to doing things that would depress the vote by
making people think if it did, doesn't matter. If you
do go to the polls, you must go, no matter
what they do. When they say, if they say bring
ID you, bring ID you, you have to instruct your
people around you to do the same. They are trying

(10:25):
to take your vote. They are trying to scare you.
One of the tactics is if they scare people and
they make think people think their vote won't count or
it's a FATA complete there's nothing they can do about it,
then you won't vote. Don't do it, challenge them go
to the vote vote. If they're going to steal it,
they're going to have to steal it in front of
our faces, and they're.

Speaker 9 (10:45):
Gonna have to do it and face a lawsuit.

Speaker 11 (10:47):
Don't stay home and make it easy on them.

Speaker 9 (10:52):
But yeah, I mean data is part of it.

Speaker 11 (10:54):
I think that we we have a real problem on
our hands and authoritarian state. We've been talking about it's
time for lawsuits, time for lawyers, and we're going to
have to fight that, Caleb.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
But the thing is, we know they want to rig
the election, we know what they want to do, we
know the games they're trying to play, and they can't
be trusted.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (11:17):
Absolutely, And I think that it is particularly of note
that you know the state that they're most heavily attacking
and trying to get this data and get a hold
of their voting machines as Colorado. While most people think
of Colorado at this point as being blue, it wasn't

(11:37):
that long ago that it was much more of a
swing state. And it has multiple statewide offices that are
have no incumbent. It'll have eight House seats, it'll have
a Senate seat, like a massive number of seats it's
very obvious by him targeting this. His goal is to,

(12:00):
like she said, suppress the vote, get people freaked out
enough to comply in advance. And if they can do that,
they can take over not only protect their majority in Congress,
but also take over some key state level positions in
multiple states. And so I think it is of the

(12:20):
utmost importance that everyone vote all the way down the
ballot in twenty twenty six. If it wasn't important, he
wouldn't be doing this.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
And again, well, people need to understand what's going on here.
They are absolutely desperate to control the House. So what
they're trying to do is they're trying to pick off
as many House seats as possible because they are afraid
they're going to lose eight to ten races. And so
if they can jerry manders seats in Texas, in Ohio,

(12:55):
in North Carolina some other places they're trying to protect
losing eight to ten. That's what's going on, and so
I don't trust anything that they do because it's all
about them trying to hold on to the House in
twenty and twenty six. Going to quick great, we come back,
We're going to talk about a number Okay, about twenty seconds,

(13:15):
real quick.

Speaker 11 (13:17):
We can also expect them to try to do immigration
things at the polls right now, to scare anyone who
you know, is obviously a citizen, but who might be
trying to vote, and they're going to try to say,
you know what, if you're voting, you know, I do
things to your families.

Speaker 9 (13:32):
We can expect that.

Speaker 2 (13:35):
Yep, yep, we can expect all of that.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
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Speaker 1 (14:57):
Well, folks, the National Guards back of the hell up
and getting the out of Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
They've been there more than a month of cause.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
The first federalized National Guard members around in LA on
June eighth, after some protests against immigration enforcement operations. Proximately
four thousand California National Guard troops and eight hundred active
duty Marines were sent there by Donald Trump, despite opposition
from California Governor Gavin Newsoman and the Los Angeles Mayor
Karen Bass. Today, Mayor Bass emphasized the deployment of National

(15:25):
Guard troops to LA was absolutely positively unnecessary.

Speaker 5 (15:31):
You've had an important.

Speaker 18 (15:32):
Victory, I think because Los Angeles stood strong, because we
understood what it meant that the federal government came in
and seized power away from our governor regarding the deployment
of the National Guard and inappropriately sent the National Guard
here when they were not needed. The administration has finally

(15:56):
understood that they need to withdraw.

Speaker 8 (15:59):
The truth.

Speaker 9 (16:00):
Let me say that this is what happens when.

Speaker 18 (16:03):
The city stands strong because we have been united, when
people peacefully protest, when people raise the concerns about having
National Guard in a situation where they were, as far.

Speaker 5 (16:18):
As I'm concerned, used as props.

Speaker 18 (16:20):
You know that their primary mission here was to guard
two buildings that frankly didn't need to be guarded. And
I frankly think of the young women and men who
serve in the National Guard, who go about their lives
normal at school, with their families and at work, and
they are called to duty and deployed and in this

(16:44):
case deployed unnecessarily, which means they had to leave their families,
they had to leave their education, they had to leave
their work.

Speaker 2 (16:52):
They were here in some cases sleeping on floors.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
It's not clear what conditions they were in.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
And now they have been withdrawn. Two thousand troops are
being withdrawn.

Speaker 15 (17:04):
We don't exactly know where they're going.

Speaker 18 (17:06):
I certainly hope that these young people will not be
used as props in some other city. I have said
from the beginning that what is happening in Los Angeles
is we are being used as a test case, and
I am hoping that this experiment with the lives of
people ends here.

Speaker 9 (17:23):
This has been a blow to the economy of the
nation's second largest city.

Speaker 18 (17:28):
We are an immigrant city, a city where they're sectors
of our economy that are dependent on immigrant labor. We
have rebuilding that needs to be done, whether we are
talking about the wildfires or whether we are talking about
preparations for the major events coming up, and the idea
that troops would be used the economy would be hit.

Speaker 5 (17:52):
Who do you think does the building in the city.

Speaker 18 (17:55):
We know that the construction industry has significant percentage of
immigrant labor. Some people have said, for I believe that's
a gross underestimation. You can't impact the nation's second largest city,
the largest city in the state of California, and the
state of California has the fourth largest economy.

Speaker 8 (18:18):
In the world.

Speaker 18 (18:19):
When you do that through stunts like have taken place
here over the last month, you hurt the economy of
our city, our state, and indirectly our nation.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
So with that, I want to.

Speaker 18 (18:33):
Just reiterate this is a victory and this is a
victory that is the result of our city standing strong
and standing united and saying.

Speaker 9 (18:42):
This was not necessary. I hope that the administration heard that.

Speaker 19 (18:47):
And that's why they made this decision. With that all
open up for questions, Mister Keith, you.

Speaker 1 (19:01):
Think fouly drawed up in the profession as persons even
if call home us.

Speaker 2 (19:11):
Well, you know what there is.

Speaker 18 (19:13):
I am hoping that this is the beginning of a
complete withdrawal of all National.

Speaker 15 (19:20):
Guard troops and of all marines.

Speaker 18 (19:23):
Our soldiers are trained to fight to kill foreign enemies
in foreign lands. There was never a need for them
here before and there isn't a need for them now.
And frankly, Pete, if they didn't go about the raids
and the manner in which they did originally this.

Speaker 10 (19:41):
Was targeted arrest for the worst of the worst.

Speaker 9 (19:45):
We never saw that materialize.

Speaker 18 (19:46):
What we saw was mask men, unmarked cars, drawing guns,
snatching people off the street if they got overwhelmed.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
That has an awful lot to do with it.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
Waste of resource isn't really what this aut was about, Kidd,
was just Donald Trump flexing and creating a realm the
TV show.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
That's all this was about.

Speaker 12 (20:14):
Yeah, absolutely and I think that it is not a
coincidence at all that they're pulling them back out right
after they hit their thirty daymark, given that once National
Guard has been deployed for thirty consecutive days, that's when
Tricare benefits, healthcare benefits for them and their families kick in.

(20:36):
And I think that Trump and Pete Hegseth realized it
was about to get a heck of a lot more
expensive for them to keep them there for a photo up, and.

Speaker 9 (20:47):
You know, pulled out.

Speaker 12 (20:48):
But that doesn't change all of the resources they've already
wasted on this and all the damage they've done to
people's businesses in the process.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
Are the billions of dollars Texas Governor Greg Avid spent
on the border building a wall, and I think they
only built some like eight miles, and even lawmakers like, yeah,
we're gonna end this. I mean, so they love wasting money.
It's all about show. And literally this is a reality show.

(21:22):
This is how they think and operate, what plays to
the cameras.

Speaker 9 (21:30):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't know who that was, Rebecca, Rebecca sure.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
So, just like you said, this is a smoker mirror show.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
It's a reality show is to distract people with what's
actually happening within DC.

Speaker 9 (21:46):
What we're seeing that's happening in DC while all this Mayam.

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Is on our television sets or on our phones that
we're streaming, is that state department just had another mass layoff.
Department of Education is going through a mass layoff. There
are essential services within our government that is being dismantled,
and now it's going to start to impact people in
their day to day life. And so while people are

(22:10):
focusing on I guess the one by one block area
where there was something there was an electric vehicle that
was on fire that if you watch Fox News, they
made it seem like the entire Los Angeles County was
on fire when it really wasn't. So in fact, the
entire protest was no more than I think a one
square mount. I don't even think it was a full

(22:30):
square mount where people were protesting inside of. So while
people are distracted by those things, and like the other
CO panelists rightfully pointed out, is that the reason why
the Trump administration pulled back National Guard is because the
acceleration in money that is getting ready the costs once.

Speaker 9 (22:49):
You hit that thirty day mark.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
So I think people need to be paying attention to
the other things that are happening within DC. Just like
yesterday Congress signed and the Trump administration signal that they're
going to remove the charter for the National Educators Association
aka the Teachers Union, which is currently run by a
black woman, Becky Pringle.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
So I think those are the things.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
That are happening inside of government, But instead we're seeing
this constant distraction, And like you said, it's billions of
dollars being wasted, and there really is no objective other
than having other than smoking mirrors and having people pay
attention to that shiny object instead the real damage that's
being done that's going to hurt every single American in

(23:33):
this country.

Speaker 11 (23:36):
I'm going to pick up where I'm gonna pick up
a Rebecca left off, other things they want to distract
us from. While they had National Guard and they were
bothering people in Los Angeles doing things that no one
needed them to do. They weren't protecting folks in Texas,
people who most likely voted for them, from a flood.
They weren't doing that work. You know, They're all attention

(23:59):
is one place that was a failure. So they need
to distract us. So not even the removal thirty days
is important, but also this becomes a storyline, anything that
can do to distract the fact that his trade policy
is failed. The reason why it hasn't been as damaging
macro is because people.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Don't believe him.

Speaker 11 (24:19):
But it is incredibly damaging on a micro level to
small businesses. The fact that unemployment may be fine for many,
up for black women, up for others that are being
impoected by some of his policies around federal government and
federal workers. He doesn't want us talking about those things.
He doesn't want us talking about his foreign policy being failed,

(24:41):
and so he has to keep up the game, putting
National Guard, deploying military troops where they're not needed to
man things that are basically very localized, not even something
that state of California should be focused on, something that
absolutely could have been handled within the very large, very
sophisticated city of Los Angeles, but no, he had to

(25:03):
insert himself.

Speaker 9 (25:05):
But all governors, all mayors.

Speaker 11 (25:07):
Should know if he did it there, it was advantageous
to him. He did, he will do it in your state,
in your city. What he has not done was protect
people from harm, which is actually what we need from government.

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Speaker 1 (28:41):
Federal judge has just handed down a ruling that could
hit your credit in your wilety. Federal courts struck down
a biden error rule that would have removed medical debt
from credit reports. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau had planned
to raise nearly forty nine billion dollars in medical debt
from credit files, providing a million of Americans with relief.
But with this ruling, that debt states on your report,

(29:01):
which could make it harder to get approved for loans, mortgages,
or even rental house and Rode heatchke rowheat choke Brother,
former director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, joins us
right now, we're.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
He glad to have you on the show.

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Look I get this, Look I would in two thousand
and four, two thousand and four, I filed for bankruptcy
largely because of medical debt and that that was a
huge issue. My appendix rupture covering the Democratic National Convention
in two thousand serious debt that then you know.

Speaker 2 (29:32):
Tried to foreclose on the home. So this impacts a
lot of people.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
And prior to the Fordable Care Act, upwards of seventy
percent of the people who filed for bankruptcy was because
of medical debt.

Speaker 10 (29:47):
That's right.

Speaker 25 (29:48):
You know, medical bills in America can ruin people's lives financially.

Speaker 10 (29:54):
And one of the.

Speaker 25 (29:55):
Things we did after an extensive study on this issue
roll and we really looked at the law and made
a determination that we should forbid medical bills from being
parked on people's credit reports, often to coerce them into
paying a bill that they already paid or didn't even owe.

Speaker 10 (30:18):
We've actually all been in the situation where we go
for a.

Speaker 25 (30:23):
Procedure or even a doctor's visit, and all of a sudden,
you're stuck in this doom loop between the insurance company
and the hospital, and what happens, it ends up on
your credit report, and that has a real negative impact
on people's ability to get an auto loan, to get

(30:45):
a mortgage. Our band would have really done so much
for people who were subject to a lot of abuse
from deck collectors. So I think this is just another
example of how some of the federal regulators now are
really turning their back on their core mission and doing

(31:06):
the dirty work for debt collectors and credit reporting conglomerates
rather than for consumers.

Speaker 1 (31:15):
Well, and the thing that people need to understand here
is that we talk about what's going on here, Republicans
want to stop everything that's actually helped people senter. Tim
Scott of South Carolina wants to destroy the Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
They want to get rid of it.

Speaker 1 (31:32):
They don't care that it's returned billions of dollars back
to regular ordinary people. Donald Trump hooked up Navy Federal Credit,
who screwed over veterans. Who's supposed to get eighty million
reimbursement up not going to happen. So there's a distinct
difference between one party that actually cares about consumers and
one that wants to reward big companies.

Speaker 25 (31:55):
You know what really gets me Roland is that the
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, it's not controversial anywhere in America
except for with lobbyists in Washington and with big executives
on Wall Street. This is an agency that is enforcing

(32:16):
the laws on the books. And what have we seen
from new leadership at the agency? During my time there,
we aggressively prosecuted a practice called redlining.

Speaker 10 (32:28):
This is where whole.

Speaker 25 (32:30):
Neighborhoods are just excluded from mortgage lending. And what have
we seen new leadership do They have been asking courts
to undo those law enforcement actions and actually refund refund
the defendants for the penalties that they've paid. And I

(32:52):
think whether it's student loans or medical bills or mortgages.
Those are the monthly bills that are really stretching people's budgets.
And we have heard a lot of talk about helping
people in their everyday life financially, but we haven't seen
much action when it comes to really addressing the treadmill

(33:16):
of debt that people are facing, or the high cost
of groceries that people see.

Speaker 10 (33:22):
When they walk down the aisle.

Speaker 9 (33:24):
All we see is.

Speaker 25 (33:25):
Big benefits for those big companies who paid campaign contributions,
and I just think that's fundamentally wrong.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
So you know, you know, again, I raised that point
about the Financial Protection Bureau because this was started under
President Obama and this was really the brainchild of now
sinner Elizabeth Warren. And I just don't understand why Democrats

(34:01):
don't know how to message.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Around this bureau.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
We're talking billions of dollars you let it, I mean,
and it drives me crazy, like, how do you not
make this a major thing when you're helping people, When
you're helping people in red states and blue states, you're
happening a whole lot of frankly broke white conservatives who
vote for Republicans. What do you see as Democrats issue

(34:29):
and frankly knowing how to talk about the impact of
the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

Speaker 25 (34:35):
Well, I think we see too many politicians, no matter
what their party is, they're sometimes afraid to speak up
about abuses of some of the most powerful companies in America,
and those companies boom Outsiz's voice in Washington. Look, it's

(34:56):
great for people to argue for expand of Medicare, expansion
of Medicaid, social security, But sometimes I fear that those
politicians don't want to call out the companies that are
calling the shots to shut down and defund the police,

(35:18):
that oversee Wall Street and Silicon Valley and other big
companies in the economy. And I think most people know
that a lot of the reason that the economy feels
rigged is that there are two few people who now
own so much of sectors of the economy.

Speaker 10 (35:39):
For the past decades.

Speaker 25 (35:40):
We've seen banks get even bigger, tech companies get even bigger,
even grocery chains and stores and hotels, and the list goes.

Speaker 10 (35:51):
On and on.

Speaker 25 (35:53):
And we have to make sure that our politicians are
standing up for consumers, for small businesses, for patients, for
farmers and others.

Speaker 10 (36:04):
Who don't have an army of lobbyists in Washington.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Questions for the panel.

Speaker 26 (36:11):
Rebecca, you first, can you walk us through the devastating
impact especially after the big ugly bill with up to
seventeen million Americans losing their health care insurance seeing reductionist
snap benefits.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
And we know quality food and good food and nutrition.

Speaker 9 (36:33):
Is health.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Can you talk about the impact with all these millions
of people losing insurance, losing things. I'll keep them healthy
and that connection to now having even more medical debt.

Speaker 25 (36:45):
Yeah, you know, this is not to me just an
issue about people's health care.

Speaker 10 (36:51):
This is also about our economy.

Speaker 25 (36:54):
And if we have more people who are just going
to decline healthcare that they need, that is going to
mean that there are fewer people who can get to work,
fewer people who can start small businesses, fewer people who
can power the economy. And you know that same bill
that had now got signed into law, it completely destroys

(37:18):
the funding for core law enforcement like the Consumer Financial
Protection Bureau. It is going to make it harder for
so many people to pay off those student loans.

Speaker 10 (37:30):
The provisions in the.

Speaker 25 (37:31):
Bill is going to be a big hike in payments
for student loan borrowers across the country. All that means
is that a whole generation of people is going to
struggle even more to even get close to the core
pillars of the American dream. And for many of them,

(37:52):
they now think that buying a home or hitting those
milestones is not.

Speaker 10 (37:59):
Even in anyway it is my play joy.

Speaker 11 (38:09):
You are so right for small Thank you so much
for your service. I have many friends who work for
you at CFPB.

Speaker 9 (38:16):
One of the.

Speaker 11 (38:16):
Things I'd like to address is just reminding the people
your viewers the difference between medical debt and other types
of debt visa vis your credit Why is it that
that kind of debt shouldn't be included. I know the answer,
but I want to make it clear there is a
very good reason that's different kinds of debt than than

(38:39):
regular consumer debt.

Speaker 25 (38:41):
It's such a good question, and what the analysis shows
is that having medical debt on your credit report isn't
really all that predictive at all on whether you can
pay off a certain type of loan like a credit
card or a mortgage.

Speaker 10 (38:58):
And honestly, this makes sense.

Speaker 25 (39:01):
When you take out a credit card or when you
take out a mortgage, you're filing an application, you're giving
your income, you're agreeing to terms and conditions. But medical
bills just happens to you. Sometimes it's because you have
an emergency room visit. Sometimes it's because a family member

(39:24):
has a serious medical illness.

Speaker 10 (39:26):
And what bugs the hell out of me is that so.

Speaker 25 (39:30):
Many debt collectors opportunistically use the credit reporting system to
coerce people into paying bills they may not even Oh,
we have found that many of those bills weren't even.

Speaker 10 (39:46):
Accurate that were put on the credit reports.

Speaker 25 (39:49):
They might have been the responsibility of the insurance company
or some of you know this one you have to
pay one codepay, but you're getting multiple bill bills for
that same copey, one from the hospital, one from the doctor.

Speaker 10 (40:05):
So all of it is.

Speaker 25 (40:06):
A bureaucratic mess, and we need a much simpler system.
But there is really no place, based on the evidence,
for people to park medical bills on credit reports that
aren't even predictive of your ability to pay another loan.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Kindle, are you on mute?

Speaker 8 (40:39):
Kindle?

Speaker 2 (40:41):
Kindle, you're on.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Mute all right, folks, not sure what's going on.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
We can't hear kindle. Uh, So.

Speaker 1 (41:04):
We'll try to get her audio fixed, Rohet. I'm telling you,
I just I think people don't. It's just amazing to me,
and we say this all the time, how a lot
of these red state people are voting.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Against their own interest.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
They're getting screwed, They're getting strewed, screwed by financial institutions.
And you have Republicans who literally are doing the bidding
of these companies, who have been whining and complaining, Oh,
how consumer Financial Protection Bureau y'all, y'all have just been
making it so hard on these companies that it's just
it's just unfair that that that that y'all are making

(41:37):
them have to comply with the law and stop screwing
regular ordinary people.

Speaker 2 (41:43):
Just how, how just how shameful is it. That's just
what's just insane to me.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
Roland. Here's what really gets me too.

Speaker 25 (41:53):
We all saw after that two thousand and eight financial
crisis that our government and the system was pretty quick
to bail out the biggest players on Wall Street. But
what we saw happened to the economy, millions of jobs lost,
trillions of dollars in wealth lost, and by the way,

(42:16):
I might add, a gigantic increase in the racial wealth
gap that occurred because of predatory and subprime mortgages, and
I just really think that the basics that we can
do is enforce the laws that protect barrowers on mortgages

(42:37):
to make sure that they don't get put in a
mortgage that will set them up to fail, or to
make sure that their credit card interest is calculated accurately,
or that an auto lender doesn't repossess a car where
the barrower has been paying on time. Our work at

(42:57):
the CFPB was reducing fraud, it was helping people achieve
their dreams, and it was keeping the market honest. And
anyone who believes in a real economy that works shouldn't
spend time pardoning some of the biggest corporate actors for

(43:20):
their wrongdoing. And that's what we have seen over the
last few months, not just Navy Federal Credit Union for
their scam to unfairly and egregiously overcharge members of the military,
but so many other law enforcement actions we took and

(43:40):
rules we put into place just to make it a
little bit easier for Americans to get by every month,
to pay their bills and to support their family.

Speaker 1 (43:54):
I think we got Kindo's audio straight. Kindo, what's your question?

Speaker 12 (43:58):
Yeah, so I know as a healthcare advocate, I know
that there are still right that people have in dealing
with these debt collectors for their medical debt.

Speaker 9 (44:11):
Can you talk about any.

Speaker 12 (44:12):
Practically first steps that people should take if they start
getting calls again now that this decision has come down,
or if they start seeing stuff hop back up on
their credit what should their first step need to make
sure that they're not getting taken advantage of by bad
faith debt collectors.

Speaker 25 (44:33):
Well, Kendall, thanks, that's such a good question, because I
don't want anyone feeling.

Speaker 10 (44:37):
Powerless about this.

Speaker 25 (44:39):
Under federal law, when a debt collector is attempting to
collect a debt that is incorrect or invalid, you absolutely
have the right to dispute it and to request that
the debt collector show you some proof that they actually
owe it. And if it's shows up on your credit report,

(45:02):
you have the right to dispute it. You can go
to annualcreditreport dot com and get to check and.

Speaker 10 (45:12):
Check your credit report.

Speaker 25 (45:13):
For free, and if you see any inaccuracies, you have
the right to dispute that information. And those big credit
reporting conglomerates TransUnion, Equifax, and Experience, they have to investigate
your dispute. And I really hope that we don't see

(45:34):
a flood of wrongful or invalid medical debt parked on
people's credit reports.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
And if you hear of anybody who is being.

Speaker 25 (45:46):
Subjected to this, don't let them feel a sense of shame.
Don't let them feel like they're the guilty party. Sometimes
I see it over and over again. People get those calls,
they see it on their credit report, and they just
pay it. But we cannot let people be forced into

(46:09):
paying something that they don't owe. So I encourage people
to really exercise their rights. You should report it to
your state attorney general, and you should also report it
to the CFPB at Consumer Finance dot govn let's actually
see if they.

Speaker 10 (46:29):
Do anything about it. But the answer cannot be silenced,
and the answer cannot be to surrender.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
Well up right now, folks, go to my iPad Anthonisco.
Right here, you see Annual Credit Report dot Com and
it says right here, And I didn't realize this rahat.
It says free weekly online credit reports are available from Equifax,
Experience and TransUnion, And so I didn't realize that you
can get free weekly reports.

Speaker 25 (47:01):
Oh and by the way, that's not something charitable they're doing.
Federal law requires them to provide those and do not
let them enroll you in some sort of monthly service.
You have the right to get that report for free.

Speaker 1 (47:24):
All right, then, well we appreciate that again, folks, you
heard what he said. Go to Annualcreditreport dot Com. You
see it right here on the screen. Annual Credit Report
dot Com. That has great information. Well, we certainly appreciate
you joining us. Thank you so very much for joining
us right here on Roland Martin Unfiltered on the Black
Show Network.

Speaker 10 (47:42):
Good to Zeroland.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
All right, thanks a lot. All right, folks, got to
go to break we come back.

Speaker 1 (47:49):
How dumb is Donald Trump? He blamed Biden for pointing
the Federal Reserve chair.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
He did.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
So, why isn't Sean Hanna Day, Fox News, Jake Tapper
and mainstream media questioning the cognative abilities of Donald Trump.
I'll have that next right here. Roland Markin Unfiltered on
the Blackstar Network.

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The twentieth century.

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Speaker 1 (50:04):
All right, folks, Donald Trump is not a very smart person.
In fact, I think the dude is actually an idiot
indaimus who's losing his mind. And you know, mainstream media
love to talk about the cognitive decline of Joe Biden,
but it's amazing how quiet they.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Are about Donald Trump. Check this out, y'all.

Speaker 1 (50:21):
Today he was whining and complaining in the Oval office
about the fan cheer. Jerome Powell, listen.

Speaker 2 (50:30):
To this christ and what you've been seeing over the
last couple of.

Speaker 25 (50:34):
Hours, President Jerome Powell, do you have plans or if you're.

Speaker 10 (50:40):
Back considering firing Jerome Powell? And what's your justification if
you're thinking about.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
This to do this way?

Speaker 29 (50:47):
He's always been too late, hence his nickname too late.
He should have cut interest rates a long time ago.
Europe has cut him ten times in the short period
of time when we cut him none.

Speaker 2 (50:59):
The only time cut him was just before the election to.

Speaker 29 (51:01):
Try and help Kamala or Biden, whoever.

Speaker 2 (51:05):
The hell it was.

Speaker 29 (51:06):
Because nobody really knew obviously that didn't work. But he
tried to cut him for the Democrats Kamala, and.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
How did that work out?

Speaker 29 (51:16):
You'll tell me it didn't work out too well, did it.
But he's I think he does a terrible job. He's
costing us a lot of money, and we fight through it.
It's almost the country has become so successful that it
doesn't have a big impact, but it does hurt people
wanting to get a mortgage, people want.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
To buy a house.

Speaker 29 (51:37):
He's a terrible He's a terrible FED here. I was
surprised he was appointed. I was surprised, frankly that Biden
put him in and extended him. But they did so. No,
we're not planning and doing anything. We're very concerned. He's
doing a little renovation for two point five billion of
the FED.

Speaker 1 (51:57):
That's interesting that that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
That was Biden. Huh.

Speaker 1 (52:11):
I recall seeing this video July two thousand and seventeen.
Maybe it's just me, Maybe maybe Biden changes his looks.
Anyone agrees with me on this one.

Speaker 29 (52:31):
As president, there are a few decisions more important than
nominating leaders of integrity and good judgment to hold trusted
positions in public office, and few of those trusted positions
are more important than the Chairman of the Federal Reserve. Accordingly,
it is my pleasure and my honor to announce my

(52:53):
nomination of Jerome Powell to be the next Chairman of
the Federal Resons Nerve. Congratulations.

Speaker 30 (53:01):
Je hmmm, kindle am my eyes wrong?

Speaker 2 (53:18):
That is that Biden? Right? There? Is that is that
Biden standing next to Jerome po.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
That I'm trying like, I mean, yeah, I'm just like
I don't understand, like what for all these people?

Speaker 31 (53:35):
Yeah, I mean between the decline in his uh obvious
cognitive health.

Speaker 12 (53:47):
I think when you lie as often and as freely
as he does, you reach a point where you just
you can no longer keep track of what you said
with and things like calendars and you know, remembering what
year it was, particular action or whether or not use

(54:10):
the action propapefully does get quite a bit harder.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
I mean, I just I again, maybe something wrong with me.
I don't know, maybe something wrong with me. Joy but
and all, and this is the thing, I mean, this
dude said, stuff screws up, stuff forgets, stuff stumbles over stuff,
and they go.

Speaker 2 (54:31):
Oh, that's just Trump.

Speaker 1 (54:32):
Where every every little thing Biden said was Oh my god,
look at this.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
He can't talk, he can't walk, He's being steered here.

Speaker 1 (54:42):
I mean it was like, you know, it was like
nine to one one every single day. This goes to
show you the double standard of mainstream media when it
comes to Biden being there and what Donald Trump is doing.

Speaker 11 (54:57):
Absolutely, Look, one of two things are happening. He either
is experiencing cognitive decline and does not remember that this
is actually his nominee. Or two, he's lying because he
believes in the cognitive inferiority of his voters and believes
that they will just believe whatever he says. So whether

(55:19):
whoever nominated him, he says it's Biden, it becomes Biden,
and that becomes the narrative that they have to reinforce
instead of saying, obviously, Donald Trump nominated and confirmed and
put in office Jerome Powell.

Speaker 9 (55:35):
So you know, that's what's happening here.

Speaker 11 (55:39):
Cognitive decline is the best of the two, I would think.
But this is a person who is lying on a
regular basis, who is rambling on a regular basis, And
if it were anyone else but Donald Trump, the media
would be all over him instead. You know, they just

(56:02):
they they've normalized it, and they're just so glad he
gets on TV and gives them ratings in the afternoon.

Speaker 9 (56:09):
They're willing to trade anything for that.

Speaker 11 (56:12):
And it's why they are failing us as an institution
in America.

Speaker 1 (56:21):
Uh, Engineer Rebecca, maybe this is the right wing thing.
Because I played this yesterday. I just got to play
it again. Bill O'Reilly was on Leland Vindert show, on
another right winger on News Nation, And maybe he's drinking
the same stuff that Donald Trump is drinking. Because it's
amazing how they just want to blame everything on Biden.

Speaker 2 (56:42):
Watch this.

Speaker 32 (56:48):
Trump administration has on Epstein exactly right. Epstein was convicted
during the Biden administrations. Not one time did that Caem
Jeffrey call for any exposition of what the Biden Justice
Department knew.

Speaker 2 (57:04):
Not once.

Speaker 32 (57:05):
So this guy's a top phony. Okay, he's a political player.
He doesn't care about the truth.

Speaker 2 (57:12):
He doesn't care. Hold on, hold on, Bill, hold on.

Speaker 33 (57:16):
You said Epstein was convicted during the Biden administration. Epstein
committed suicide during the Trump administration.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Yeah, how is he convicted?

Speaker 32 (57:27):
How do you conny he's convicted into I believe, Okay,
under Merrick Garland's Justice department. That could be am I
wrong on that.

Speaker 2 (57:38):
I don't think so.

Speaker 32 (57:40):
And then he was incarcerated and then he committed suicide. Okay,
the suicide thing is bull with you.

Speaker 33 (57:50):
I think this is important, Bill, I think this is important.
He was arrested in twenty nineteen, and he committed suicide
in twenty nineteen. He died August tenth of twenty nineteen.
So the Biden administration was not involved in a conviction
or a trial of him. They were in the of
his madam of Elaine Manswell.

Speaker 32 (58:10):
And that's a that's a good point of clarification. But
he was arrested and indicted under Merrick Garland.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
No under Trump, who had all.

Speaker 33 (58:18):
Under Trump under Epstein was arrested, indicted, and committed suicide
under Trump in twenty nineteen. Trump was president, Merrick Garland
was not the Attorney general.

Speaker 1 (58:31):
Okay, I guess that's I guess that's something Rebecca's going around.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
He's like, yeah, okay, they must be all drinking the
same stuff.

Speaker 6 (58:46):
Okay, if we're going to do this, can you also
play the Nazi clip too?

Speaker 9 (58:50):
From yesterday?

Speaker 6 (58:51):
Nazi be the word be reclaimed by Fox News and
they're going to use it the way the Blacks have
reclaimed the in word. Look up is down down, this
up left is right right, it's left right. This is
the bizarre world that we're in. The bottom line is,
we know that it's not Trump who's running this administration.
We know is Steven Miller and crew that's running this administration.

(59:16):
In fact, there are rumors now around d C saying
that they're gonna at some point twenty fifth Amendment I'm
Trump meeting that they'll have a formal process to remove
and say that Trump block lacks the mental capacity and
competency to serve as commander in chief, which we all
know that because we're watching it in real time and
then we're watching the man run around DC, you know,

(59:38):
in the cloud of flatulence.

Speaker 9 (59:40):
You know, it's it's kind of.

Speaker 6 (59:42):
It's kind of a bizarre time here under Trump as president,
and unfortunately JD. Vance will be the same, if not
worse than the way Trump is approaching running government.

Speaker 9 (59:56):
The bottom line is there are people who have been
using so much.

Speaker 6 (01:00:00):
Such propaganda where they're believing the propaganda. It's unfortunate because
the American public really doesn't know how to decipher what
it is that they're seeing, what it is that they're
not seeing, because unfortunately, in this country, civics, as civic education,
it's not really taught in this country. So many Americans
don't even have a foundation to compare what should be

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occurring versus what is occurring out of this administration.

Speaker 9 (01:00:25):
And unfortunately, it's very sad and ultimately.

Speaker 6 (01:00:27):
It's going to hurt many Americans because they're not going
to get what they need out of federal government. We
need a competent leader leading and running the federal government. Unfortunately,
that's not what we have. We have a clown show.
We have dismantling of American institutions that serve as safeguards
to make sure that this country runs properly. And I'm
sure tomorrow night with your guests, maybe you all will

(01:00:48):
get into foreign policy of when we have such a
weak domestic front that leaves us completely open for foreign
actors to continue to dispuse, disabuse.

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Us, and cause America harm. And it's very unfortunate because
this is what we have now.

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So please vote in your loco state elections because you're
gonna need some type of leader to protect you from
what's coming.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
National Cares and Mentoring Movement is a community driven initiative
directly addresses the effects of air generational poverty. The organization
provides programming on a national scale support the advancement of
children growing up in poverty. Cares offers a thirty two
week curriculum designed to help children heal from the traumas
associated with this issue. Renee Daniel Flag organization's new appointed president, Jones,

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is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
I'm glad to have you here. Nate. How you doing?
Actually I think you're still on mute? All right? I
can hear, guys, what's going on? Why can't I hear? Well?
Worked with her? Get her unmuted, folks.

Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
National Chares Mentoring Project was started by Susan Taylor, a
long time in an in chief.

Speaker 2 (01:04:07):
Of Essence magazine.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
We were in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina and then
organizing the event where Susan talked about the importance of
really bringing families together and many of our kids needed mentoring.

Speaker 2 (01:04:21):
And so when they had their first.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Big fundraisers in New York City, Oprah Winfrey had pledged
five hundred thousand dollars, and at that particular event, Oprah
pledged another five hundred thousand dollars. She's been a huge
supporter of National Chares Mentoring movement ever since then. We
have covered many of their events live stream them on
the network. I participated for a couple of years as
the host of the golf tournament for the Atlantic National

(01:04:45):
Cares Chapter as well. So they've really been doing the
work all across the country. Let's see, do we have Renee?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
Now?

Speaker 8 (01:04:55):
Okay, that's weird.

Speaker 5 (01:04:56):
I can hear you.

Speaker 2 (01:04:59):
Renee. Can you hear I can hear you Renee? All right? Okay, cool,
all right, guys, let's now go to Renee.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
All right, okay, guys, can we please thank you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Can we please switch appreciate it? All right? So Renee
the new president, So talk about that.

Speaker 5 (01:05:18):
Well, first of all, thank you so much.

Speaker 15 (01:05:20):
For having me.

Speaker 24 (01:05:21):
I'm excited to be here and yes, I am the
inaugural the new president of the National Cares Mentoring Movement,
the amazing organization that focuses on inspiring hope, healing and
transformation in the most vulnerable children in the country, started
by the iconic Susan L.

Speaker 5 (01:05:41):
Taylor back in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (01:05:47):
So for folks who don't know, how many chapters do
you have? How many folks do y'all service each year?

Speaker 8 (01:05:53):
Sure?

Speaker 24 (01:05:53):
So we have about fifty eight chapters across the country
and we have served over one hundred and fifty thousand
students across the country in so many ways.

Speaker 1 (01:06:07):
And so when you talk about the program and the
folks that you help, as young as what, as old as.

Speaker 24 (01:06:14):
What, as young as mostly in the middle school school,
all the way up to young adults, and the ways
that we actually help them is by doing the program,
an amazing program that we call the Rising Programming the
Rising Program, we have an HBCU Rising Program. It helps
professional development mentoring. We also recruit, train and dispatch mentors

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around the country, working in collaboration with other non profit
organizations and youth service organization in order to make sure
that our young people have the mentoring, support, training and
programming that they need to thrive. And our major focus
right now for the past few years has really been.

Speaker 5 (01:06:55):
On black child's suicide.

Speaker 24 (01:06:57):
The rates of suicide has gone up over one hundred
and forty four percent in recent years, and that's one
of the things that we are really focusing on helping
to eradicate without mentoring circles, healing circles and the programming
that we do to make sure that they are supported,
that we are helping to eradicate the impact of the

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traumas that they need to be dealing with and make
sure that they have the tools to thrive and to
go to school and remove the barriers that they may
be facing that will prevent them from being successful.

Speaker 1 (01:07:34):
One of the issues that obviously y'all are apt to
buy so many nonprofits is the anti DEI stance has
really caused a lot of corporations to cut back on
support for programs like natural Cares.

Speaker 5 (01:07:47):
It is, it really does.

Speaker 24 (01:07:48):
In some of the corporations, you know, they're really brave
and they're like, you know, the work that they do
to support communities, they're going to continue to do it.
But some of them are really impacted that some of
them have even been threatened that if they, you know,
provide certain types of support, that they're going to have
issues with funding and federal funding and things like that.
And so one of the things that we have to
do is appeal to our people. You know, we're helping

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our children, and so no one's coming to save us,
So we have to make sure that we're getting the
support to help do the work that we need to
do because no one else is coming in to make
sure that our students, our children, our young people have
what they need to thrive, to make sure that they
have professional development, to make sure that they have healing,
to make sure that they have the tools that they need.

(01:08:33):
So when it comes to job opportunities, I call us
the workplace.

Speaker 5 (01:08:37):
The workforce incubator.

Speaker 24 (01:08:39):
We're giving these young people the skills that they need,
and it's in a holistic approach because we're dealing with
the traumas that prevent them sometimes from being able to thrive.
So it's a holistic approach and we need to be
able to do the work. There are some organizations that
are continuing to support us no matter what, because this
is the work that they do.

Speaker 5 (01:09:00):
Some things are just being renamed, but the work is
staying the same.

Speaker 24 (01:09:03):
But we really have to appeal to our people to
make sure that we have the support that we need
to make sure that our children are taken care of
and that they're able to continue to thrive.

Speaker 2 (01:09:17):
Questions from the panel. First off, Joy.

Speaker 9 (01:09:22):
For surposing this is so important.

Speaker 11 (01:09:25):
One of the things that we often don't have, especially
if we're in dire straits, is someone who's just telling
us what you know. Other people just get through proximity,
which is that you know there.

Speaker 9 (01:09:38):
Is a All jobs.

Speaker 11 (01:09:40):
Are good, but there's a high limit out there for
what you can achieve, and sometimes people only need to
know that it's possible. So you know, when a student
comes in your program, can you walk us through what
happens from the moment they get there to like the
moment they graduate out of your program.

Speaker 24 (01:09:59):
Absolutely, So when students come into our program, whether it's
with HBCU Rising or the Rising program, what are the
things that we focus on?

Speaker 8 (01:10:07):
Mainly?

Speaker 24 (01:10:07):
Also is healing, right, so we have healing circles, mentoring
circles where these students are able to come into a
place that they feel safe, they feel affirmed, they feel valued,
They know that the people who are working with them,
which includes psychologists, you know, people in social work, peers.

Speaker 5 (01:10:30):
Mentors, that they have a space where they can come in,
be who they are, don't have to worry about who.

Speaker 24 (01:10:35):
They are, and have the issues that they face, address
the social issues that they face, address in a safe
space where they can really tell the truth about what
they're going through, that they can hear from other students
and be affirmed in that space that understand that they're
not alone, and then to be guided to not only
how to deal with the things that they're facing, but

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how to remove the barriers so that they can progress,
can transform, so that they can engage in trajectory changing work.
By giving them the tools professional development mentors on a
consistent basis, that is showing them what's possible, because access
and exposure is extremely important, especially if you're coming from
an environment where you may not see people thriving. You

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may not have an uncle or aunt or a parent
in a condition or in a situation that is able
to show you what's possible beyond what you see in.

Speaker 5 (01:11:29):
Your own frame or reference. So we want to make
sure that they feel safe.

Speaker 24 (01:11:33):
That's really important for our children, that they feel safe,
that they're in a place that they can speak to
what they're dealing with, and so that they can go
through that healing process and then open the doors of
opportunity for them for that professional development, giving them the
SAFT skills, opening up opportunities to them, taking them to businesses,
taking them to places where they can see what's possible,

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bringing people in front of them that look like them,
that have not only overcome areas but achieved great things.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
We call those super mentors.

Speaker 24 (01:12:02):
And through this process, they're getting the development, the school,
the tools, they're being equipped with everything that they need
to be able to thrive. They're being encouraged to pursue opportunities,
and it's a very very I have to really say
that it's a very holistic process because it's one thing.

Speaker 5 (01:12:21):
To get someone's skills, and it's one.

Speaker 24 (01:12:23):
Thing to open up a door for them, But if
they don't have the confidence, or if they have so
many emotional or traumatic or barriers to healing, a lot
of times they can't get into that space and thrive.
So we deal with all of that, and even with
our HBC Rising programs, we make sure.

Speaker 5 (01:12:44):
That they're getting the professional development that.

Speaker 24 (01:12:46):
They need and to put them on the right path
to leadership and opportunities and opening doors for them to
be able to take that next step and truly create
a career path or opportunities to.

Speaker 5 (01:12:57):
Thrive as well.

Speaker 9 (01:13:07):
I love that is Rebecca.

Speaker 2 (01:13:08):
Here Kendo Kendo Kendo.

Speaker 12 (01:13:13):
Yeah, first of all, thank you. I loved what you
said a couple of minutes ago. I think it honestly
could be the tagline for all of trump Ism when
you said that, you know, nobody is coming to.

Speaker 15 (01:13:33):
Save us, we have to save us.

Speaker 12 (01:13:37):
And in that vein, I would love to know how
can people support the work that you're doing?

Speaker 24 (01:13:45):
Absolutely, so there's several ways, but I would say one
of the most important ways is to donate to the organization.
You know, every organization is going to face some type
of funding gaps as federal funding starts to dwindle, and
you know, the threat on corporations that normally support this
type of work, you know, starts to tighten up their pockets.

(01:14:07):
So we still have work to do and this is
not going to change, and donating to the organization is
probably the key. Like if you feel like you can't
do anything else and no donation is too small and
definitely not too big. So I would say starting, that's
one place to start. If you're in any of the
areas that we currently serve, we'd love to be able

(01:14:28):
to have you reach out to us. I'll give you
you know, cares mentoring dot org. We're always looking for
mentors to train and dispatch to the community. We need mentors.
We're always looking for supermantors, and that's people with special skills,
subject matter expertise that can expose our students and our
young people, our children to amazing opportunities that they may

(01:14:50):
not have access to or may not even know about.
So I would say those are the two main ways
that you can support this organization.

Speaker 10 (01:15:00):
I love that.

Speaker 2 (01:15:02):
Rebecca.

Speaker 10 (01:15:03):
Rebecca I second kindle.

Speaker 9 (01:15:06):
Those are fabulous glasses.

Speaker 6 (01:15:09):
So the other my other co panalists, Joy and I
are both in two national organizations where we do a
ton of community service. And so my question is for
folks who might be busy, or have multiple jobs, or
have families and other things that keep them busy. We
understand the importance of being a mentor. Can you talk

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us through what is the time commitment for people who
are interested in signing up to be a mentor.

Speaker 24 (01:15:39):
So the time commitment varies. Some people have more capacity,
some people have less. With our supermantors, that's an opportunity
that no matter how busy your schedule is, you can participate.
We know that subject matter expertise, you know, is usually
attached to a person who has a very busy schedule,
and that's fine.

Speaker 5 (01:15:58):
So those are times where we'll you come out.

Speaker 24 (01:16:00):
If we're doing special programs, or you are only available
one time a month.

Speaker 5 (01:16:04):
Or you know, two or three times a year, we can.

Speaker 24 (01:16:07):
Plug you into those locations where you can come out
and talk to our students. If you are available on
a monthly basis, we are happy to have you join
us on our on the days that we do mentoring
at those particular sites that you're available to. And we
also train, recruit and dispatch mentors to organizations who need mentors,
like partner organizations.

Speaker 5 (01:16:28):
Like Big Brother, Big Sisters.

Speaker 24 (01:16:29):
So our training really gives them the foundation to come
in and do this work. Everybody can't just do you know,
consistent mentoring where because it can be it can be
a lot, and so our training helps.

Speaker 5 (01:16:42):
To provide you with that foundation.

Speaker 24 (01:16:44):
You have an understanding of like trauma and form training
and things like that, so that you can be in
an environment where you can really be an asset to
help a young person. So it doesn't matter if you
have a little bit of time or if you have
a lot of time. We have opportunities and availability and
we can use you as a mentor to come and
help and with our young people.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
All right then, well, Rene, we sotainly appreciate it. Good
luck being the president of National Cares. And of course
we've been long supporters on this show. We'll continue to do.

Speaker 5 (01:17:15):
So, yes, you have, and we want to thank you
for that support.

Speaker 28 (01:17:18):
Roland.

Speaker 5 (01:17:18):
I've seen that you have really been down.

Speaker 24 (01:17:20):
With the organization in every possible way with your time,
your talent, and your treasure.

Speaker 5 (01:17:25):
So I want to thank you for that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:29):
All right, then, we appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Thank
you having all right, well we're to go to a
quick break.

Speaker 1 (01:17:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:19:00):
All right, y'all. So I want to.

Speaker 1 (01:19:03):
You know, what drives me crazy is when I hear
comments such as, well, he's a you know, he's a
person of his time, of his moment, and that really
pisces me off when I hear that phrase, and it
pisses me off because it's it's bullshit. So John Legazamo

(01:19:27):
was on Bill Maher's podcast, I don't know what the
hell you want to call it, and the issue of
Trump being a racist came up, and this is what
was discussed.

Speaker 2 (01:19:44):
Y'all have that clip. Let men know where y'all have
the clip.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
So come on, somebody talked to me, do we have
the clip the other bill Mark clip? Okay, so folks
in the control we're not talking to me. So y'all
find that clip, let me know where y'all have it,
and then I'm gonna come back to this particular story.

(01:20:13):
I posted something today social media that I thought was
it was a test. It was a test, if you will,
and I'm always challenging folks on how they how they
do certain things.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
So check this out. This is what I posted.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
I said, does anyone have a list of how many
black owned products are in Costco? How are they supporting
black owned businesses? I need receipts? Now, keep in mind
Costco announced earlier this year that they were standing firmly
with DEI, that they were not backing down. That's what
they said at their shareholders meeting, that they were if

(01:20:56):
they were gonna support, they were gonna support Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:21:00):
They were going to.

Speaker 1 (01:21:00):
Support di and Revendez, Sharp and others. They went to
Costco and UH to a shop. Then they people were
talking about, hey, we got keep supporting.

Speaker 2 (01:21:10):
Costco and they were standing with DEI.

Speaker 1 (01:21:13):
And I purposely threw this out because first it was
a test. It was a test to see if people
pay attention to what was actually said. Do they pay
attention to what was said? And were they listening? And
then were they hearing something that I didn't say?

Speaker 2 (01:21:35):
Again?

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
You know, this is this is the this is right here.
This is the post that I put on Instagram. Does
anyone have a list of how many black owned products
are in Costco? How are they supporting black owned businesses?
I need receipts, so.

Speaker 2 (01:21:47):
I said, I did just say boy got cost I
say any of that. But I want.

Speaker 1 (01:21:54):
Y'all to pay attention to the comments. And I think
what it's going to show. It's gonna show you how
one a lot of people really really don't pay attention
and they are emotional when you've asked certain questions.

Speaker 2 (01:22:13):
So here we go. You look at some of the comments.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Here, Oh, DEI is far more than selling black owned products.
While supply diversity matters, so to the other factors such
as employment practices, promotions, et cetera. I liked that they
didn't care to the pressure. Yet I said, I didn't ask.

Speaker 2 (01:22:29):
All of that. I was specific. Look at this here,
what are you talking about? Roland.

Speaker 1 (01:22:33):
Someone listed the black products, which you didn't even acknowledge.
Costco didn't cave to Trump over DEI. I'll be shopping there.
I shot them, conteinus. They stood up for DEI and diversity.
It's baked into their product selection. They can do more, probably,
but in the meantime carry.

Speaker 2 (01:22:47):
On as usual. But as one person said, this is
what I found.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Black and Bowl Specialty Coffee debuted in Midwest Costco stores
starting May nineteenth, twenty twenty five. Capital City Mambo Sauce,
a DC based DC based black owned sauce now available
and select DC, Maryland, Virginia costco stores. Nature Aid plant
based protein, Chase Carrot in Southern California, Hawaii costcos and

(01:23:11):
online Partake Foods Algae Friendly Cookies found in Midwest, LA
and Hawaii warehouses.

Speaker 2 (01:23:16):
Mac and Yeese by I E.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Grass, Vegan mac and Cheese and refrigerated sections in SoCal
and Hawaii. Black Girl Magic Red Blend by McBride's sisters.
Black OneD Wine available in southern California.

Speaker 2 (01:23:27):
Warehouses.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
And then okay, uncle nearest whiskey, look at this, Oh,
thank you for doing the research. Roland obviously didn't do.
Thank you, Thank you, thank you. Costco is not our enemy.
Come on, Roland, focus your angie on the enemy. I
love black and goal. Thank you for this being allD is.
I don't know, but once I purchased those bottles of
vodka and tequila is black owned. Look at this, I
can confirm one black OneD brand. Costco took a stand

(01:23:51):
against reversing its d I posit and I will support them. Then, ago, Roland,
let's not start problems with Costco. I just re up
my membership and then the person goes on and on.
Costco has a reverse of de I policies. Like many
other companies. There are many black businesses that have the
band within production to comedy the big box story requirements.
Blah blah blah blah. We're not going after Costco period.

(01:24:13):
Why would anyone care? Don't be an on Barrier. This
is a battle. I'm not fighting. I need more to
work with one of y'all. About boycotting Amazon now rolling Costco.
They paid thirty one dollars per hour. I'm not fighting
decent wages call them? Uh do y'all see where I'm going.

Speaker 2 (01:24:30):
All of these black people are mad.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
I didn't say boycott Costco. I didn't say shut them down.
I didn't say any of that. So white people jump
to conclusions. But what I also what I'm also not

(01:24:54):
gonna do.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55):
Let them off the hook. Hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:25:01):
Why do I say that the sister named six companies?
I'm sorry, am I supposed to be excited that folks
only named seven black owned products. We're talking Costco massive stores,

(01:25:27):
and we are excited because there are only six seven
black owned products. See, y'all, this is one of the
greatest mistakes that I think that we make. And one

(01:25:50):
of those mistakes is that we accept crumbs and we
think it's a meal. Have heard me say this numerous times,
numerous times on this show. There's a certain scene from
the movie Malcolm X that I love.

Speaker 2 (01:26:12):
This is that scene. Elect break it up. You got
what you wanted. No, I'm not satisfied. Elect break it up.
You got what you wanted. No, I'm not satisfied. Erect
break it up. You got what you wanted. No, I'm
not satisfied.

Speaker 1 (01:26:32):
See I'm not satisfied with six or seven companies.

Speaker 2 (01:26:40):
I'm not. Do I have a Costco card? Yes? And
do I love the fact that Costco.

Speaker 1 (01:26:45):
Said no, we're not going to go against THEI absolutely,
But I don't just give up by saying, Okay, well,
you know what, you know, they're doing good over here,
and you know what they got, you know, the high people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
That's all great.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
But also I want to see black owned businesses build capacity,
be able to grow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:11):
See, we have got to get.

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Out of this silly mindset of being satisfied with oh no, no, no,
that they released the statement that they stay with diversity,
prove it. None of us should be excited or satisfied
with six or seven.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
See.

Speaker 1 (01:27:39):
This is my problem. The fact I sat here and
raised this question and all these people, boy, they just
I mean just though, oh my god, I mean y'all
go to Instagram see the comments.

Speaker 2 (01:27:52):
Oh it was like, how dare I Roland?

Speaker 1 (01:27:55):
They're great, They're wonderful, they're doing I want to see
black OneD can good companies become a one hundred two
hundred million dollar a year corporation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:09):
We just had the toilet paper company.

Speaker 1 (01:28:13):
Y'all know, I'm gonna show y'all right now, see This
is what y'all gotta understand.

Speaker 2 (01:28:17):
See, I'm not playing these games.

Speaker 1 (01:28:20):
There's a reason we have shot Blackstart Network dot Com.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
We go right here.

Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
We got to see Jim Wraps, Leafy Products, John Towns Barbecue, Fashion,
fair In Booze Cologne, Butter, HBCU, Legacy Fashion, Kevan Foods,
Ezra Coffee, Renegade Golf Company, Bitoy's Sweet Treats. Okay, I
want to see these companies grow to be one two

(01:28:48):
hundred five hundred million billion dollar companies, because you know
what that means. They're going to be hiring people people.
They're gonna have black CEOs and ceo and coos and
CFOs and CTOs and vice presidents and executive vice presudents
and directors and on and on and on. But what

(01:29:09):
does it tell you that by me simply asking the question,
the black folks immediately, how dare you?

Speaker 2 (01:29:19):
We can't be doing this or we can't Roland? What's
wrong with you?

Speaker 1 (01:29:24):
You can't, you don't be doing that? Why are you
doing that? What's wrong with you? And see somebody just
said the good company is a black onned can food company.
But they refuse to leave Target and they shouldn't y'all
do y'all understand why the Target boycott is there because

(01:29:47):
we're saying to Target, stay true to the promises you made,
so good foods shouldn't leave Target. I wasn't one of
the folks saying Essence should not take Targets money because part.

Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Of the boycott was in Target on your commitments.

Speaker 1 (01:30:04):
My god, we have got to learn to stop being
emotional about things and listen and understand how do we build?
And we can't just be satisfied because somebody made a
statement we support DEI If Costco is having a diverse workforce, great,

(01:30:25):
paying the ways they'd are paying, great, they got folks
and executive great, But Costco I want to see more
than six or seven companies having products in your companies,
I mean your stores, because we know for a fact
if it's Costco and Target and Walmart and Kroger and

(01:30:47):
Giant and Safeway in publics and Coals and Ross and Marshals,
we could keep going on and on and on. This
is one of the reason why black owned businesses have
not been able to succeed is because we have not
been able to build capacity. I need everybody listening to
me to understand what I'm saying. Ninety five percent of

(01:31:14):
all black owned businesses in America do five million dollars
or less in revenue.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
I don't think y'all heard what I just said. Ninety
five percent.

Speaker 1 (01:31:36):
Of all black owned businesses in the United States do
five million dollars or less in revenue. Prior to COVID,
when we had two point nine million black owned businesses,

(01:31:58):
two point eight million had one employee. I'm gonna let
that marinate for everybody who's listening. Two point nine million
black owned businesses and two point eight million had just
one employee. That means of the nearly three million black

(01:32:24):
owned businesses in America, one hundred thousand of them had
more than one employee.

Speaker 2 (01:32:37):
So when we.

Speaker 1 (01:32:41):
Are just satisfied with statements, then I'm sorry, what are
we losing? What are we missing here? I'm confused, what
exactly are we missing here? And now the comments are

(01:33:06):
the comments? Look look at this here, this is a battle.

Speaker 2 (01:33:13):
I'm not fighting. I need more to work with.

Speaker 1 (01:33:16):
I didn't say fight a battle now, Roland call them.
Oh my god, y'all won't be happy until we're making
all of our products by hand at home. I'm supporting
Costco because they didn't listen to the forty seventh president
and cut DEI. Plus, they pay their workers a living wage.
I feel like you're posting this to be messy and devisive.
Stop looking for problems. We already have enough of them.

(01:33:44):
All I asked was how many black owned products are
in Costco? I'm looking for receipts when I sit here,
Go here, look at this here, why Noah bro Costco

(01:34:07):
is cool. They hire a lot of black people and
pay fair wages. You must need to drum up some views.
How about boycotting the politicians, nonprofits, churches and entertainers sitting
on their butts doing nothing for the cause. Look at
this here, great reasonable question. We shouldn't blindly support. It

(01:34:28):
has to be purpose in all that we do. Someone
answered your question saying, there are several black.

Speaker 2 (01:34:32):
Owned brands.

Speaker 1 (01:34:36):
Leave Costco. Not boycotting Costco. Just wondering why you wanted
to know. You could look up yourself. We're good. Okay,
give a whole team have them research. Since you don't, didn't.
There are plenty of comments educating you on this.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
I wasn't starting an argument.

Speaker 1 (01:34:58):
How many black people are pushing their products to be Costco.
How black business is pushing themselves. Okay, Roland, I'm with
you when you're right. I don't care to peer pressure either.
I would continue to shopping at Costco.

Speaker 2 (01:35:11):
Thanks. Why would anyone care? Don't be your own barrier? Wow?

Speaker 1 (01:35:19):
Why would anyone care to ask how many black owned business.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
Products are carried in Costco?

Speaker 1 (01:35:27):
This, right here, Rebecca, is why we accept crumbs and
then we think it's a meal.

Speaker 2 (01:35:38):
When not.

Speaker 1 (01:35:39):
And his was interesting, Rebecca, if I post it right now,
If I post it right now, the fact that black
owned media only gets point five to one percent of
the three hundred and forty billions spent every year on advertising,
I can guarantee you it would not get three hundred
and forty five comments. But by merely asking the question,

(01:36:05):
a lot of these black folks lost their minds, and
then we wonder why nine of black owned businesses only
do five million dollars revenue or less.

Speaker 6 (01:36:23):
Roland, I'm afraid many people in our community have lost
the plot.

Speaker 9 (01:36:29):
So I'll use I'll use an example this way.

Speaker 6 (01:36:32):
So if I'm in elementary school and I'm on the
playground and a bully comes up to me and starts
to beat me up. If one of my friends is
watching this happens and says to me, oh, don't beat
up Rebecca, unless that person is willing to actually jump
in the fight with me. Them telling the bully not
to beat me up, it's not going to stop me

(01:36:52):
from getting my behind me right. And so the plot
here that people have lost is that we are in
a fight against an administration, against a United States federal
government that's looking to figure out ways to increase the
racial gap with black Americans in this country, which are

(01:37:14):
looking to which isn't doing anything. As black unemployment rates
are going up. This administration is intentionally cutting jobs that
black people over index in in the federal government.

Speaker 9 (01:37:26):
So now there's a fight.

Speaker 6 (01:37:28):
Against black people, against black economics in this country.

Speaker 9 (01:37:31):
And it's not good enough just to say, hey.

Speaker 6 (01:37:32):
Well we support black folks, we support your economics, but
actually do something. It's the reason why groups like Color
of Change exist where they show up to those boardrooms
and they demand these executives to show, hey, put your
money where your mouth is.

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
It's a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (01:37:52):
Yesterday, Lapita Neango joins on Capitol Hill with Congresswoman Chantelle
Brown as well as Senator Angel Ulsterbrooks talking about uterine
fibroids that impacts Black women at a great reason in
anybody else they're talking about, how do you fight for
funding for that? This is what we talk about on
this show, Why These Things Matter. Cons Woman Sean til

(01:38:14):
Brown joins us right now in addition to Julian Adams Bert,
doctor president for Georgia State Medical Association and president of
Radiant Women's.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
Health and congress Woman. This is what I'm what.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
I keep trying to get our folks to understand when
we raise these issues in fighting for contracts and fighting
for funding, it has a direct impact on Black people.
We simply can't be satisfied with Well, I mean there's
research thats going here. No, this is what it means
to fights for specific things that impact our people.

Speaker 9 (01:38:50):
That's right.

Speaker 34 (01:38:50):
That's why representation matters. You know that as well as anyone.
And we consider the fact that this impacts sixty percent
of all women, but eighty percent, eighty percent of Black
women by the age of fifty will experience uterine fibroids.

Speaker 16 (01:39:04):
And I was one of those women.

Speaker 34 (01:39:07):
Lapita Niango, she took the took to the Hill to
share her story. It was the first time of her
sharing her sub story publicly, and I think that to
your point. Just to add a little bit more to
your point, the legislation that I introduced along with the
senate companion, Senator also Brooke, is called You Fight Uterine

(01:39:29):
Fibroids Intervention, Gynecological Health and Treatment Act.

Speaker 16 (01:39:34):
That's what the You Fight stands for.

Speaker 34 (01:39:36):
As it currently stands, less than half of a percent,
half of the half of a percent of the budget
for research goes towards uterine fibroids, less than half of
a percent when it impacts so many people, and so
representation absolutely matters in every aspect of our lives. Where
we were talking about how many products are on the.

Speaker 16 (01:39:58):
Shelves at Costco.

Speaker 34 (01:39:59):
If we are, if we are a certain percentage of
the population, then we should have equal representation in the
spaces and places where we are talking about things that
impact us. And so it was important to me to
introduce some legislation to fight for some research dollars to
go towards finding out how we deal with this issue.

Speaker 16 (01:40:21):
So many women get impacted, we go.

Speaker 34 (01:40:23):
To our doctors, our symptoms are often dismissed, minimal, minimized,
you know, cavalierly just you know, this is just a
part of life. And one of the things I think
that was so salient that Lupita said is that from
a very very early age, especially those of us who
consider ourselves, you know, active in the church community, we

(01:40:45):
learn from the days of Adam and e that women
are supposed to suffer, that pain is a part of
part of our life.

Speaker 16 (01:40:52):
But so we pushed through.

Speaker 34 (01:40:54):
But the more conversations you start to have, just because
something is common doesn't mean that it's normal. Just because
this thing is a thing and it's prevalent doesn't mean
that we should accept it as our fate, our destiny,
or the reality that we live with every day. When
we have an opportunity by being in this space, as

(01:41:16):
black women who are represented more now than ever, to
uplift something, then we're going to use our positions to
elevate these issues so that we can start to call
to attention, call them to attention, so.

Speaker 16 (01:41:28):
That we can get the funding that we need to
address them.

Speaker 34 (01:41:30):
So it was it was a very impactful day on
the Hill yesterday with alongside Congresswoman Vette Clark, the chairwoman
of the CBC and representative of the People's Republic of Brooklyn.
We also had Robin Kelly, Bonnie Watson Coleman, my colleagues
in the in the in the House who have made

(01:41:54):
it a point to form a caucus that focuses on
black women and black girls issues. And then we also
were joined the two sister senators who a first time
two black women in the history of this country are
simultaneously representing the Senate, and so that gives us an
ability to do exactly what you're talking about, to represent

(01:42:17):
We've made progress from the last time, and I introduced
this legislation last year, but this year we have a
Senate companion, so we're continuing to push a little bit
more and a little bit more. We currently have thirty
six sponsors, but I know you know, and many of
your informed viewers and followers know that the magic number
is two eighteen. It's two hundred and eighteen that we

(01:42:39):
have to get to to get this out of the House.
And now we've got companion companion legislation at the Senate side,
so we need fifty one over there. So we need
people like lupedia to elevate the conversation and amplify it
so that more people are aware, and I can't tell
you how many people have just expressed their gratitude and

(01:42:59):
how much attention it has garnered by having an award winning,
an Academy Award winning actress, and a New York Times
bestselling author express her sentiments around the importance of this
issue and how we need to start making more investments
to deal with something that we have been suffering through
silently for far too long.

Speaker 2 (01:43:22):
Doc.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
So what drives me crazy again is when whever we're
trying to we're talking about corporations, we're talking about government,
we're talking about business, and folks complain about a problem.
I'm always like, Okay, we're asking the wrong question, we're
pushing I mean, I had to sit through a presidential

(01:43:44):
campaign to listen to some of the most ignorant simple
Simon Negroes say, oh, Vice President Kamla Harris, she ain't
talking about us, And I'm sorry. I don't recall hearing
Donald Trump talk about black maternal health. I didn't recall
hearing him talking about black women dying in childbirth out

(01:44:04):
of hearing him talking about issues like this here, and
yet folks get folks focused on other things. And so
when I talk about what I was just dealing with COSTCO.
We get excited about a statement, but we don't get
excited about focus on what are the results.

Speaker 2 (01:44:18):
This is a perfect example.

Speaker 1 (01:44:20):
If we're talking about something that impacts women, but specifically
impacts black women, then that should be a part of
the agenda in advocating for dollars that go with it.

Speaker 2 (01:44:31):
So, first and foremost people don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
What the hell are you doin fibroids and why are
they more prevalent in black women than anybody else?

Speaker 34 (01:44:43):
So I don't know if the doctor was able to
join us, but she's here, but she's on mute.

Speaker 2 (01:44:50):
Okay, doctor, can you hear me? Doc? Can you not talk?

Speaker 1 (01:44:54):
Go ahead, Doc, go ahead talk.

Speaker 2 (01:45:00):
See okay, yeah, okay, Dot.

Speaker 1 (01:45:01):
The question for you what exactly is you doing the fibroids?

Speaker 2 (01:45:04):
What is that?

Speaker 15 (01:45:07):
So you know, if fibroids are what we consider benign
uh tumors, they are solid tumors. They grow from the
wall of the uterus. The uterus is made up of
what we call smooth muscles, and they grow from there.
And I know the question on your mind and everyone

(01:45:27):
mind is why where do they come from? And we
believe we know that there's a genetic component. There could
be an environmental component, hereditary component to fibroids, but we
just haven't quite figured out put our finger on the
pulse of why some women have them, why black women

(01:45:48):
have them more. There's plenty of theories and we need
to look at the risk factors. We may not know
where they come from, but we know some of the
things that can decrease the fibroids, and we know that
hormones make them grow. So folks who grow up with

(01:46:09):
a high meat diet, especially red meat, folks who may
use certain chemicals. There are some studies around chemicals that
may increase the risk. Think about our environment that we're
exposed to, the products that we use. We know that
there are things that can increase the growth. Namely, most

(01:46:34):
young teenagers before they hit puberty and in puberty don't
have fibroids. And on the opposite end, once you go
through menopause, the fibroids if you have them, can and
will shrink. So we know that there's a huge hormonal
component to fibroids. But the best thing to remember though,

(01:46:56):
although fiboids are not cancerous, they are considered benign tumors.
How they behave is not benign for most women, especially
African American women.

Speaker 2 (01:47:12):
College Warren Brown, So.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
Right now, you talk about number responsors that you have,
it's a lot of other women in Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:47:22):
So are y'all having to walk?

Speaker 1 (01:47:24):
Let's just be frank, these white women in Congress through
this till they understand what's going.

Speaker 34 (01:47:29):
On well as as as you. As we talked about,
this impacts the majority of women. Sixty percent of women,
regardless of race, will experience uterine fibroids, and as the
doctor pointed out, sometimes in some cases they will be benign.
But as I go around and I look for co
sponsors for this legislation, I'm talking to my white colleagues,

(01:47:51):
even the men. When I have this conversation, you would
be perhaps maybe not, but I am. I am sometimes
pleasantly so rise at the number of people who have
been impacted, because it makes the conversation easier to have.
When I am approaching my white colleagues, I have acts,
have you experienced vibroids?

Speaker 16 (01:48:10):
And some of them have, some of them haven't.

Speaker 34 (01:48:12):
But those who have, I am certainly elevating the conversation.
Those who haven't, I'm certainly elevating the conversation and informing
them and educating them and hoping that they will understand
and bring and come along with this with the legislation
that we are introducing to address this very very common issue.
But I've also found that when I'm talking to my

(01:48:33):
male colleagues, I'm like, Hey, if you like women, if
you love your wife, if you love the women in
your life, you should consider joining this piece of legislation.
They're like, but what is it, Chantelle and so, and
then I get the opportunity to tell them, and when
we start the conversation, you're like they're like, oh my god,
my wife experienced that, or oh my god, I heard
about this before. And so now we're normalizing the conversation.

(01:48:55):
More people are becoming increasingly aware, and it's something that
should not be a partisan issue. Is that impacts so
many And that is the probably the most frustrating part
Roland is that the number of people that are impacted
is so common, But the amount of research, the amount

(01:49:16):
of knowledge associated with something that is happening so frequently,
is so far. As the doctor pointed out, we know
what they are, but we don't know why they are.

Speaker 16 (01:49:26):
More prevalent in Black women. So we deserve to know.

Speaker 34 (01:49:31):
Right, if eighty percent of women, by black women by
the age of fifty are going to be experiencing this.

Speaker 16 (01:49:36):
We should be able to understand why this is happening.

Speaker 34 (01:49:40):
To us and it's the leading cause of hysterectomies in
our country. Now, for me, that was an ideal solution,
but everyone isn't like me. Every woman doesn't want to
have a hysterectomy. I had no issue with that. For me,
it was the greatest decision and easiest decision in my life.

Speaker 16 (01:49:56):
I'm like, hurry up, let's get it done.

Speaker 34 (01:49:58):
But there are other women who feel like they they
that that is, they don't they don't want to lose
those organs. They want to they want to be able
to reproduce. This is a reproductive justice issue. This is
something that is an epidemic, if you will, and so
a health epidemic. So we we need to be able
to figure out how we can prevent something like this

(01:50:23):
from happening.

Speaker 16 (01:50:24):
That is that is happening with the frequency that it is.

Speaker 1 (01:50:34):
All right, last question for you to know, you got
to go con I know, last quarture of us. What
do you want the public to do. What do you
want them to do?

Speaker 34 (01:50:43):
Thank you for giving the call to action. So what
I want the people to do. We're introducing this legislation,
my legislation that You Fight Act is really really simple.
It's you fight, You fight, You remember you fight. Tell
your member of Congress to join and be a co
sponsor to this legislation. And the more co sponsors we have,
the easier this will become to get across the finish line.

(01:51:04):
So please please please, whether it is if you are
a social media so you got a lot of activity,
if you follow your current member of Congress, or if
you follow your senators of your state, let them know
because we've got we've got a companion piece on the
Senate side led by a Senator Angela also Brooks. So

(01:51:27):
contact your federal legislators and ask them to sign on
to the Youth Fight Act. That's what we need. That's
what we need to get things done. So that's that's
all I can ask for. And to start normalizing the conversations.
Talk to talk to women, Talk to the women in
your life, talk to the young ladies and ask is
this something that they've experienced, because it's also it's also

(01:51:49):
more common than we think. And I think once we
start to amplify the conversation and let people know that
this is happening in great frequency because for so long,
for so long, Roland women have suffered in silence. Now's
the time to amplify the conversation and to encourage your

(01:52:11):
legislators to sign on to our legislation so we can
start figuring out how we can prevent this thing.

Speaker 2 (01:52:18):
Yep, absolutely cons went Brown. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:21):
Thanks a bunch appreciated to my panel. You got questions
for doctor Bird. I'll start with I'll start with you, Rebecca. Rebecca,
your question for the doctor.

Speaker 6 (01:52:30):
Sure, So, I have a lot of people in my
life who are suffering at fibrys. Unfortunately that has not
been my experience. Even though there still isn't a definitive
we don't know definitively what is the root cause of fibrois.
What do you suggest that women and young girls can

(01:52:51):
do to prevent fibrarids, Whether it's increasing vitamin D. I
hear people talking about that or heard you mentioned, decrease
and intake your red meat. I've heard people talk about
using chemical relaxers, not using chemical relaxers and other chemicals.

Speaker 9 (01:53:08):
On our hair.

Speaker 6 (01:53:09):
But can you talk to what are things that we
can do to prevent the growth of fibroids?

Speaker 15 (01:53:17):
Absolutely, thank you for that question. So the very first
thing that I would say is every woman should be
connected with a gnecologists right and or are women's health specialists.
There are many family physicians who are very comfortable when
it comes to reproductive health. Men, you are being seen

(01:53:40):
for your wellness exam, that conversation around periods.

Speaker 9 (01:53:45):
If your periods are.

Speaker 15 (01:53:46):
Heavy, painful, prolonged, if you just have pelvict pressure, something's
not right, you're dealing with constipation, you're dealing with frequency
of your nation, then you should be seeing a specialist
and having an exam and not being blown off as if.

(01:54:08):
And I've heard the representatives statement about how so many
women believe that some of the symptoms, even those that
are just named are common at they are normal. We
call them normal, and that just shouldn't be so. To
your point, we should be eating healthier diets. If you

(01:54:30):
remember nothing else, look up the Mediterranean diet. But we
need to decrease the amount of red meat that we need.
We need more fruits and vegetables up to five servings a.

Speaker 9 (01:54:41):
Day per day.

Speaker 15 (01:54:43):
We need to be increasing our fiber whole brains. Those
are just some of the things that we can do.
And start looking at packaging, start thinking about getting a
bottle that you can, you know, use over and over
instead of water bottles, plastics, and if you're not going

(01:55:05):
to be too careful about the products and the ingredients
in certain things. So definitely there are things that you
could do. And remember that probably fifty percent of women
who have five boards you'll find it in your family life.
So ask you know, if you're at the family of
a union a summer, ask your auntie and them, ask
others if they have been diagnosed, if they've had difficulty

(01:55:29):
with fertility. Fiveboids impact so many areas of women's lives
that it is really important to not think that, oh,
she's only twenty years old. If they normally start in
our twenties. The most impact is between thirties and fifties,
especially when women are nearing menopause and start having heavier flows.

(01:55:51):
So we need to connect with a women's health specialists
and not be blown off, especially when symptoms begin to
show themselves.

Speaker 11 (01:56:12):
Roland, I have a question, yet a question So one
of the questions I have for you is like, what
is heavy? Because I think you know, just to break
it down for our audience, what would you describe as
a period that is so heavy.

Speaker 9 (01:56:30):
That you need to call your doctor?

Speaker 15 (01:56:34):
Great questions. So, first of all, I always tease with
my patience. Every woman does not read the textbook, so
what we've learned and what people experience can be slightly different.
But the average woman, her period should come every twenty
eight days, and we always say plus or minus seven days,
so as frequently as twenty one could be normal unless

(01:56:58):
that's a change for you. You've always been every twenty
eight days, and now you're having oftentimes twice.

Speaker 9 (01:57:06):
A month periods.

Speaker 15 (01:57:07):
They're not coming every twenty more days, that should be
a red flag. They could be as far off as
every thirty five days. The heaviness of the period, if
you're having to change your sanitary products every hour, if
you are lightheaded, a dizzy, shorter breath, and especially a

(01:57:29):
lot of women know the sign of heavy bleeding. When
women become a mimic and they start chomping on ice
or other products, especially not out of ale products called paika,
that may be a sign you just have to look
at what normal may have been for you, and if

(01:57:51):
any of those things change also a sign that maybe five.

Speaker 8 (01:57:55):
Broids have grown.

Speaker 15 (01:57:57):
So definitely, the periods should not be something that takes
you out. You should be able to do your daily chores,
go to school, go to work. And if if you
are living on your calendar, your social calendar, you plan
it according to your period, that may be a red

(01:58:20):
flag as well. I can't go to that white party
because I'm expecting my period to come on this weekend. Definitely,
you need to have those conversations.

Speaker 12 (01:58:34):
Okay, So obviously this legislation is hugely important in terms
of addressing the issue of uterine fibroids.

Speaker 9 (01:58:47):
But it also strikes me that the.

Speaker 12 (01:58:49):
Legislation is incredibly important within the larger context of there
having been such a massive disparity between research on medical
issues as they impact men, particularly white men, and research
as it impacts women, particularly black women. Can you speak

(01:59:11):
a little bit to that disparity and the consequences that
it has and why it's so important that that be addressed.

Speaker 15 (01:59:20):
Okay, I'm having a little hard time hearing, but let
me just answer like this, because I wanted to share
something the congress woman said earlier. We have to remember
that hysterectomies are the most common surgery in the United States,

(01:59:41):
only second to cesarean sections. Only second to cesarean section,
and most hysterectomies occur the largest number occur in the South.
I guess which state where I am and Georgia. We
have the largest population proportion Black women in our state,

(02:00:02):
even more than Texas, California, and New York. And most
of the women are African American eighty percent as we
said earlier for women of color, and then maybe up
to seventy percent. But the difference is also the inequity. Also,
it's not just in the number, it's in the severity.

(02:00:26):
It's in the number of five boards that we find
at the time of an exam or sonogram you know,
or MRI, or at the time of surgery, but the
significance of her symptoms because five bards are just larger
and more intense. Periods are more intense, pain is more intense,

(02:00:51):
and unfortunately, as oftentimes we find black women are diagnosed
at a later time. So now maybe your options are
limited and not even just limited to.

Speaker 5 (02:01:07):
Not being able.

Speaker 15 (02:01:08):
To choose a non invasive or minimally invasive procedure to
address address it. But if you get to the point
where you're needing a blood transfusion, and.

Speaker 9 (02:01:19):
I have those, you get to that point. But if
she's only thirty.

Speaker 15 (02:01:24):
Two and hasn't even had her first pregnancy yet, and
now someone is telling you, ma'am, you know you may
need to really consider it. Directed me. So those inequities exist,
and hopefully not just what is being done legislatively, but
this message and the time are taking her to discuss
it will awaken patience, and I would also awaken uh

(02:01:47):
those of us in the medical field to consider these
other things and consider them that they may occur earlier
in African American women.

Speaker 1 (02:02:00):
All right, then, doc, we certainly appreciate it. Thank you
so very much, thanks.

Speaker 2 (02:02:06):
For joining us.

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