TSU Students Stun MAGA, Loomer’s Racist Attack on Crockett, GA Blackface Outrage, Justice in Boston

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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Wednesday, September twenty fourth, twenty twenty five, coming up on
Rolling Market on produ streaming live on the Black Start Network.
Some loud mouth MAGA influencers go to the campus of
Tennessee State University to disrupt these students there they will
run off campus. Now they're complaining that, oh, a race
mob attacked them. Well, you were uninvited. We'll talk about that. Also,

(00:27):
parents in Georgia are pissed off after some white students
showed up in blackface at an event. Yep A racism continues.
Plus Donald Trump close advuys A Laura Lumer has a
racist attack against Congressoman and Jasmin Crockett. No shock because
that's the kind of people he likes to hang out with.
Also in Mississippi, Universities of the Mississippi and the Mega

(00:50):
PI five. But it's a federal lawsuit. Upgrade student says
hazing left him hospitalized, but talk with his lawyer. Will
also hear from the president the National Education Association, but
her plans to take on Donald Trump's administration's education agenda.
Plus two black men falsehood accused in one of Boss's
most infamous murder cases. Or finally get some justice Thirty

(01:12):
four years later, Democrat leader Hockeing jeffries To held news
conference today talking about, of course the looming federal shutdown
lots to break down. It's time to bring the punk
rolling Mark on Filcher of the Black Study Network. Let's go.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
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he's got the fact the fine Nona believes he's right
on time and is rolling best belief. He's going Frank's
Loston News to politics with entertainment.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Justa case.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
He's shows.

Speaker 5 (01:54):
It's strolling.

Speaker 6 (01:59):
Rolling, he's by stress.

Speaker 7 (02:04):
She's real the question, No, he's rolling the market.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
Charlie Kirk being ko HBC's were targeted with bomb threads. Now, uh,
a maga hate group decides to go to Tennessee State University.
They call themselves the Freedom Tour. And what they do
they go fearless to them. Sorry, they go to these
college campuses. Now here's a deal. They showed up at
Tennessee State uninvited, did not seek permission, and set up

(02:40):
their table.

Speaker 8 (02:41):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
And the whole point, this is what the whole point was.
You see right here, d I should be legal to
poor all e legals. Now then they got upset because
students grab their size and tossed them and then of
course they were escorted off campus by security. Now the
videos have been going around social media. Let's just roll
and turn the audio up.

Speaker 8 (03:01):
Er, I'd give you set a potato.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
Movie.

Speaker 9 (03:52):
Supporters invaded our h B c ure.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
You called the East premited. But what we created, y'all knowledge,
we created, y'all.

Speaker 8 (04:08):
Science, We created y'all that y'all didn't do safe.

Speaker 10 (04:11):
Besides, still, y'all didn't do anything to your you guys, guy,
you're like.

Speaker 11 (04:24):
We're showing them the door, you.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Know, we're walking them to the door, y'all.

Speaker 5 (04:31):
I don't even know how they got on campus.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
We're gonna figure that out. But I don't know.

Speaker 12 (04:36):
They need to get like a trespassed like penalty or something,
because sending.

Speaker 13 (04:42):
Them off selling that boy that he was gonna come
up like yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
So let's be perfectly clear. Uh, they were not authorized
to be on campus at all.

Speaker 14 (04:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
Tennessee State you University released a statement. This is what
they said today. A group of individuals unaffiliated with Tennessee
State University appeared on the campus without prior notice in
accordance with a university policy, any demonstration or protest activity
requires advanced approval and permitting. Campus police and the staff
responded promptly, and the individuals were escorted from university grounds

(05:20):
without incident. At all times, tssue students connecting themselves in
a professional and respectful manner, the safety and well being
of our students, faculty, and staff remaining our highest priority.
Tssue with GUTEAM to uphold university policies and ensure that
the campus remains a safe, welcoming, and orderly environment for
all members of our community. Know, let me be perfectly clear, y'all,
I'm a Texas AM graduate. And even though I'm a graduate,

(05:42):
if I decided to roll up at Texas A and
M set up a table in front of the Mortal
Student Center, and I have language that probably white students
they would disagree with, don't you know I'm going to
be approached and told I'm sure sorry, who are you?
Are you authorized to be here? These individuals were unauthorized,

(06:05):
So why do they do this? To get exactly what
they got? Their whole goal was to go viral. Their
whole goal was to say, oh, look at these folks,
they're protesting maga. This is ridiculous. And they've been on
social media trashing HBCUs, talk about graduation rates, all those things.
That's what their goal is. And so let me be

(06:25):
real clear, you're going to see this happen again because
see these right wing influencers. Okay, what they're going to
do is in the mold of Charlie Kirk, they are
going to target other HBCUs. I'm telling you right now,
don't think this is a single thing. They are going
to do this to other HBCUs. It's all about getting

(06:49):
under their skin. And they want to be able to say, oh,
we're exposing these universities. And if they're going to be saying, oh,
we're exposing these state universities, see the whole deal here
is Tennessee State in Tennessee, Nashville, Tennessee. So their whole
deal is, hey, guess what, we got a Republican governor,
We've got a super majority of the Republican legislature, and so

(07:11):
what do we do. Let's target them. So what we
need to understand HBCU students, faculty, and staff need to
understand this is going to happen again. I guarantee you
it might be South Carolina State, North Carolina A and T, Texas,
Southern University of Florida, A and M. It might be
Albany State. We have no idea what it's going to be.

(07:33):
But trust me, this is what these right wing folks
are going to do. What did I tell y'all? I
told y'all at the outset of this year with the inauguration,
that what they're trying to do is defund black America.
It is the targeting of Black America. It is everything
about Black America that they are targeting. See these fools
claim to have these fearless debates again, trying to do

(07:56):
what Charlie Kirk do going to college campus, is that
we're going to have debates. We're going to be debating
on campus. Now, y'all, it's not their goal. Their goal
is to have, frankly rage porn. They're going to be
able to say, oh to their to their white supporters.
Look at these savages, Look at these Look at the blacks.

(08:19):
Look how they responded. And we came on campus. We
just came on campus and our make America Great Again
hats and what are sids? It's the first Amendment? Ask
what it's all is about it's freedom of speech. That's
what their goal is going to be. And so we
need to be aware of this. We need to understand
what their strategy is and to realize exactly what it

(08:42):
is they're going to try to do. And so bottom
line is, these folks here, we know exactly who they are.
We know exactly who they are, we know exactly how
they're going to operate, we know exactly how how how
they stay in and so, uh, it's just it's just crazy. Now,
the TSUE released a second statement. Okay, let's go ahead

(09:05):
and read. Let's pull that up. Please, let's pull that up.
And so so again that was an initial statement. Then
that was a second statement. Uh, and and and again
and again. I just need y'all to understand what these
people are all about. And so when we reached out
the text of the texts Tennessee State, we wanted to have,
of course some folks appear on the on the show,

(09:28):
but they actually declined. So this is this is what
was efter they disruption, uh said dear tissue community. This afternoon,
a group not affiliated with TSU, identifying themselves as Fearless Debates,
appeared on campus without approval or notice. It has been
brought to our attention that Fearless Debates has visited several

(09:49):
other universities across the country. At TSU, the group carried
pro poster boards with messages such as deport all illegals
now and DEI should be illegal. The presence of hostile
groups in our camp but it is not merely a
political statement. It is an attempt to draw attention to
their views by creating visibility at the expense of Tendessee
State University students. The presence of hostile groups on our
campus is not merely a political statement. It is an

(10:11):
attempt to draw attention to their views. While we recognize
and uphold the Constitution rights to free speech, we also
understand if there's a difference between exercising this right and
engaging in actions that seek to disrupt to being and
incite fear within a community. Tissue Police Department metri A
police department and staff responded swiftly by assessing the situation
for any potential threat, de escalated and escorted the individuals

(10:32):
from university grounds without incident. TSUE will not tolerate attempts
to undermine the safety or value of our community. We
stand in solidarity with our students and staff. We remain
committed to ensuring our campus there's a sanctuary for dialogue
and education. As of this evening, we continue our investigation
and are reviewing all video footage to determine how the
individuals gain access to our campus. Thank you for your vigilance.

(10:53):
If we're standing united in the face of provocation, SOS
folks again, just need to understand any campuses are frankly
wide open. You could literally walk on a lot of
college campuses. They're not bound by gates and things along
those lines. So there's no surprise this happened. Andrew Clark
is a magic partner of District Legal Group oft DC.

(11:13):
He joins us right now. Andrew, glad to have you here.
Like I said, Andrew, this is real clear what's going on.
They want viral moments. They want to be able to
ramp up their right wing magabase to say, look at this,
we're unwelcome on this campus. Republican lawmakers, y'all should penalize them.

Speaker 15 (11:31):
Yeah, And the interesting thing that I saw here is
I think that they weren't just looking for a response Roland.
They were looking for a violent response because they wanted
the violence. They wanted an uprising and we're just not
giving it to them. This school has eight thousand students,
and like you said, it was inevitable that people were

(11:54):
going to be perturbed by the fact that they were
on campus. They knew this going in, but they didn't
want to really debate anybody about anything. You see them
walking around on live. These do not look like people
that are seasoned debaters that are going to make their points.

Speaker 16 (12:08):
They were setting up fielding questions.

Speaker 15 (12:11):
They wanted to go there for a spectacle, and they
wanted to go there for a spectacle because they thought
that they were going to be the sacrificial lambs.

Speaker 16 (12:18):
They thought that they were going to get beat up
by these eight.

Speaker 15 (12:22):
Thousand bus students at the school, and it did not happen.
And I commend all of the students at that school
for not taking debate and for driving them out and
even some of them yelling facts at them as to
why their positions are complete nonsense.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Yeah. I just and again we need to understand this
is going to be the case and show how students react.
It's going to be critically.

Speaker 16 (12:47):
Important, absolutely absolutely, because as you said, it's going to
be in other schools.

Speaker 15 (12:54):
There are other schools that are going to experience this,
and if they follow this this blueprint here, we're going.

Speaker 16 (13:01):
To keep seeing these videos.

Speaker 15 (13:03):
They're going to keep getting escorted off of campuses, and
like you said, it's going to be a free speech
type of debate. But then it's hypocritical because we have
the issue that we're dealing with with what we were
dealing with with Jimmy Kimmel, right, So they're being hypocritical
in that respect.

Speaker 16 (13:19):
But I think that the reaction.

Speaker 15 (13:21):
As long as it's non violent and as long as
it's it's spoken word right and not physical violence, then
we are going to carry the day with this strategy.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
Yep, yep. So we know exactly what it is these
folks are doing, and it's clear. Right, I'm going to
go to break. We'll be back right here. Rolland Mark unfiltered.

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Speaker 19 (15:28):
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Speaker 1 (15:36):
Laura Lumer, one of Donald Trump's closest advisors, launch a
racist attack against Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett, posting this, She of
courses in Trump's ear constantly, and so go ahead and
pull it up. This is the tweet right here. It
hurts my heart that we have a ghetto black bitches

(15:58):
who hate America, sir in Congress. Now, she was angry
because of Jack Congress with Jasmin Crockett's response on various
shows to the shooting death of Charlie Kirk. Now she
posted that. Then she posted that she doubled down, mocking
Crockett as a so called dei shiniqua erasist, sexist, white

(16:21):
meant to discredit her work. Now, Luma has a long
history of hate speech. It has been banned from multiple platforms. Again,
Donald Trump calls her a free spirit and a patriot.
That's who she is. Y'all can roll some of this crap.

Speaker 20 (16:40):
That would ensure that the US Court, public Agency, or
any other legal institution never enforces or legitimizes Sharia law.
And yes, there actually is Sharia law. Places like Minnesota,
places like Michigan, But now you may have seen this
video that has since gone viral in Texas.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
This video on viral weeks to go.

Speaker 20 (17:00):
But I'm going to show you several examples of sharia
law here in America because someone of you are like, wait,
was sharia law here? And the President himself mentioned sharia
law during his address today at the United Nations General Assembly,
and so that we can't allow that here in the
United States. Let's go ahead and get Representative Randy Fines
legislation up on the screen here for people.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So again, I just want you all to know that
Donald Trump listens to her all the time. Donald Trump
has taking her advice. She's actually led Donald Trump to
fire a number of people from the federal government. But
this is who these folks are. Okay, they can't make
an argument based on substance, so they have to resort

(17:42):
to racist attacks. So, Andrew, none of us are shocked
by the lumurs of the world. None of us are
shocked how they act, how they respond. And so this
is Donald Trump, this is Baga, this is the Republican Party.

Speaker 15 (17:59):
Yeah, we're not shocked, but it's still jarring to hear
in such a public space people speak. So so negatively
about another black woman. I mean, black women make up
four percent of Congress, but if you see the clips,
it's almost every single time that they open their mouth,

(18:19):
they're attacked. And Jasmine Crockett is somebody that is unapologetically black,
and she's unapologetically in her space, and she.

Speaker 16 (18:28):
Speaks the truth. She speaks through facts.

Speaker 15 (18:32):
Now sometimes people might think it's insulting, but she still
is speaking through facts and the way that she's presenting it,
I guess they would like her to not be as
affluent and not be as articulate as she's speaking.

Speaker 16 (18:47):
But she's a very, very powerful woman and.

Speaker 15 (18:50):
Lumer attacking her is just so in my eyes, it's
very disgusting and it should be. I'm glad that she's
kicked off of these platforms because it's something that should
never never be seen, especially by young impressionable children.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
Well, this is what they do, and so again they
can't make an argument on the merits, so they have
to resort to.

Speaker 16 (19:11):
Race exactly, and every time that they resort to race,
for us at Roland, because we've been around for a while,
we know that it's the tactic of I can't beat
you on the merits.

Speaker 15 (19:25):
So I'm going to go and attack you on race.
We saw it with the birther movement. With Obama, he
was so articulate, so intelligent that they couldn't do anything
but just attack. Well, maybe he's not really an American
citizen and wake up because this has got to stop.
This division in twenty twenty five has got to stop.

(19:45):
It is not black versus white. These are socioeconomic issues.
And if white folks which stop voting against their own interests,
maybe our country could progress.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
Yeah, but what they're doing is they're appealing to their base.
That's the whole deal.

Speaker 13 (20:06):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
The reality is, Uh, these folks in their racial language
that appeals to the right wing.

Speaker 16 (20:11):
Base and and roland the right wing base.

Speaker 15 (20:17):
We have to really examine who the right wing base is, right,
because if the right wing base are all racist, if
we're just going to categorize them as all racist, then
how did Donald Trump win the election?

Speaker 1 (20:33):
No? No, no, no, no, no no no, it's not category.
It's not this is this is not the issue. The
issue is not categorizing all of the right wing basis races.
The issues that races are very comfortable in the right
wing base. So the tent of the right wing welcomes
the racist.

Speaker 15 (20:56):
Now that now that is a thought, that has a
thought that is chilling to me, because.

Speaker 1 (21:04):
But it's not chilling. David Duke ran as a Republican
in Louisiana. Mitch McConnell has a gleeful picture standing in
front of a Confederate flag. When the January sixth white
domestic terrorists attack the United States Capital, they were waiving
Trump and Confederate flags. This is who they are. The
only party that defends Confederate statues and monuments are Republicans.

(21:27):
Donald Trump, Pete Heckseith brought back the Robert E. Lee
painting at West Point, They brought back the naming of
these bases. They embrace that racism in the past. They
want to limit the telling of the real history of
this country to resort back to his story. So the
boblan Is is here, and so they love talking about racist

(21:50):
Democrats and the Klan and things along those lines. Well,
let's be real clear. The folks who were who are
racist Southern Democrats, they're now Republicans.

Speaker 16 (22:00):
And now you got to think about is it the
party of racists? Because if Democrats are doing this and
supporting this, then you have to kind.

Speaker 15 (22:09):
Of anybody that that identifies, right, you can't say that, oh,
I identify with their tax policy, so I'm a Republican
and ignore everything else that they're.

Speaker 1 (22:20):
No, no, they do, no, no, no, no, no, they do, they do,
they do. I was playing golf and politics came up,
and as the white guy goes, yeah, I can't stay
a lot of the crazy stuff he does, but I'm
voting for him because of his policies. So no, they
are making a concerted effort. The folks who vote for

(22:40):
Donald Trump are making a concerted effort to actually vote,
to make a big effort to ignore what he says
about women, to ignore what he says about black people,
to ignore what he says about Oh all all a
documented work. They're all criminals, they all, they all came

(23:02):
out of prisons. This is this is Listen. A white
woman made up the story about Haitian's eating cats and dogs,
and what happened was her animal was actually found. She
later apologized they made it up. But guess what. Donald
Trump was on the airplane with Laura Lumer flying to Philadelphia,
and it's no shock that that's when he brought it

(23:22):
up in the debate against Vice President Kayla Harris. So
this is who they are. They know that race works
on the Republican side. You press the button of race,
white conservatives react.

Speaker 16 (23:38):
And it shouldn't. It shouldn't be like that in twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 15 (23:41):
That's the point that I'm making that in twenty twenty
five we should be able to.

Speaker 16 (23:44):
Move past race.

Speaker 8 (23:46):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
That is not really the PLA Andrew Andrew, Andrew Andrew,
I'm sorry. I know you want this nice Pollyanna world.
That world is not here. Lee Lee at Wall, the
person who was behind the election of President George H. W. Bush,
who was later named the head of Republican Party. That
individual me at Water said, Hey, we don't it's recorded.

(24:13):
It's recorded. He said, we don't have to use the
N word anymore. There's other language that we can use
that appeals to our base. He said it.

Speaker 15 (24:28):
So every single time, now that we have a Republican candidate,
they're going to insert race to be able to divide
their base.

Speaker 16 (24:36):
I don't think they're dividing their base.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
No, they're not dividing. They're not dividing their base. What
they're doing is they are inciting their base. Listen, you can,
you can, you can campaign on race. Where did Ronald
Where did Ronald Reagan start this presidential campaign? The same
place where, the same county, with the same county where

(24:59):
the three civil rights workers were killed. Ron Reagan could
have picked anywhere in the country. Nope, he chose to
do it in the county where Chinese Shrunner and Goodman
were brutally murdered by the KKK. Yep, he did that.
Those Reagan, Those Reagan. So it's no surprise that Reagan

(25:21):
refused to veto the anti PARTEID bill. That's no shock.
It's no surprise he opposed the federal holiday of Reverend
Doctor Mantom King Jr. It's no surprise that he made
up the welfare queen story of a black woman who
was stealing money on welfare. Okay, that's who he was. Now,
he might have had a great smile, he may have

(25:42):
been oh though, the gipper and all that sort of
stuff like that, but it doesn't mean that he wasn't racist.
And see what we've done in this country. See what
we've done is we have to understand there are racists
and there are people who practice racial politics. And that's
the difference, and so it's and so we have to
recognize these things. And that's why I'm just saying that

(26:05):
that they are who they are. They are who they are,
and and and and they they are going to use
issue of race. You could be talking to a Republican
group white Republicans. This happened in Chicago. There were black
Republicans in Illinois who were presenting data trying to get
the Republicans party to appeal to African Americans. After the

(26:25):
presentation of the first thing, the Republicans said, now we're
gonna we're not going to support the increase in welfare.
Black Republicans look at each other, like, did any of
us bring up welfare? But that's state of mind, bruh.
That's just who they are.

Speaker 15 (26:43):
And and it's and for me, I think that I
actually am going to go back on something that I
said based off of what the Republicans are saying now outwardly, because.

Speaker 16 (26:55):
They really aren't hiding it anymore.

Speaker 15 (26:57):
If you still identify with the Republican Party, you are accepted.

Speaker 16 (27:02):
You can't separate yourself from that view.

Speaker 15 (27:05):
You can't keep saying it's about tax policy, you can't
keep saying that it's about their world views or their
their nationalism. This is simply they're going after race. They're
attacking black cities, they're attacking black mayors, They're going after race.
So I think at this point, if you're part of

(27:26):
the Republican Party, then you've got to accept that.

Speaker 16 (27:30):
You're for racism. I mean, you're for these racist ideologies.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh no, no, no, no, no, they don't No, they're
not going to do that. They're not going to do
that again. They're gonna say, oh, how dare you, how
dare you bring up race? They're not going to say that,
Oh well, you know what when it comes to, you know,
the death penalty. No, you just can't sit here and
make this thing about race. You can't do that. This

(27:56):
is who they are. And so again for the people
who don't know, who are unfamiliar with this, go to
my iPad. This this is what I call the Atwater tapes.
Go now, I want you to listen. Turn the audio up,
actual words of the top Republicans trategies that lately at me.

Speaker 16 (28:20):
Here's how I would approach that.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
You sh as a as a.

Speaker 9 (28:22):
Statistician critic, all I know is a psychologist, which I'm
not is how abstract you handle the rays. In other words,
you start out, yeah, now.

Speaker 3 (28:34):
Y'all want to pull me out.

Speaker 9 (28:36):
I want you start out in nineteen fifty four by
saying nigga, nigga nigga. By nineteen sixty eight, can you
say nigga?

Speaker 16 (28:44):
That hurts your back?

Speaker 9 (28:45):
By so you say stuff like forced busing.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
States lights and all that stuff. You hear that, he said,
nineteen fifty four. Nineteen fifty four, you will say nigga, nigga, nigga.
Sixty eggs. You can't say nigga, nigga, nigga. He said, So, oh,
what do we start saying forest bussing states rights? Keep
listening and you get it so abstract.

Speaker 9 (29:09):
Now you're talking about cutting taxes, and all of these
things you're talking about are totally economic things in the
byproductive in the Maya flats get hurt worse than white
and subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not
saying it, but I'm saying that if it is getting
that abstract and that coded.

Speaker 18 (29:27):
That we're doing.

Speaker 9 (29:28):
The way with the racial problem one way or the other.
You following because obviously sitting around saying we want to
cut taxes, we want to cut this and we want
as much more abstract than even the bussing thing, and
the hell.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Of a lot more abstracted than.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
Never knew, you know.

Speaker 9 (29:47):
So anyway you look at it, the race is coming
on the back front.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
That was Lee at Water. The Republican Party has been
executing that strategy ever since. It's start office the strategy,
and it has continued ever since.

Speaker 15 (30:04):
And now there the key term is DEI in the
attack of d I.

Speaker 1 (30:10):
Yeah, no, no, no, it's the latest no, no, no, no.

Speaker 16 (30:12):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
In two thousand, In twenty twenty one, it was BLM terrorist,
twenty twenty two, critical race Theory, twenty twenty three, woke
twenty twenty four, DEI when they say DEI higher. Before that,
it was affirmative action. Before that, it was quota. Before that,
it was nigger. They're all associated now.

Speaker 16 (30:37):
And now it's race.

Speaker 15 (30:37):
Everything has to be raced neutral, which I think is
going to be going into twenty twenty six.

Speaker 1 (30:43):
Which is nonsense.

Speaker 16 (30:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I'm.

Speaker 1 (30:48):
Staying, we just have to understand the game that they're playing,
just like they're trying to play the game right now.
Oh no. I went back and listened to what Charlie
Kirk had to say, and he no, he y'all are
taking it out of context. No, we're not, but they're
trying to explain it all away. That's what is going on.
So I just need people just to realize that. Listen,

(31:11):
the strategy has never changed, it has never gone away.
It's simply morphs into something else. And wouldn't let or
to say there he said, it was the abstract. He said,
if we keep it in the abstract, he said, if
we talked about, oh, cutting taxes, he said, that's gonna
hurt black people. We start talking about a smaller government.
He understands what that means because to one of the

(31:32):
five African Americans work for government. We just have to
I mean one of the five, every federal employee South
African American. We just need to understand what's going on here.
And so the problem is with white mainstream media. They
don't want to deal with the issue of race. They
want to say, oh, no, these white people in the
Midwestern States, the flyover States. No, it's economic anxiety. No

(31:54):
it's not. It's in the data. They're actual feelings. And
so we just have to be honest. The attacks on
immigration ain't got done to deal with sitting that. It's
white fear. That's why I call my book what I
called it, Pull. And so again I need you people,
need you to understand pull, pull this book, pull a
book up. I need you to understand why the photo

(32:16):
I chose as a photo from January sixth, white man
has his arms outstretched, and that's what that symbolizes is
all of this is ours. All of this is ours.
That's what that photo symbolizes. And that's what this is
all about. And so unlike these other folks in mainstream media,
we just call it what it is. We're real clear

(32:38):
on what it is and what's happening right now in America.
This whole white Christian nationalism, it all boils down to
they are scared to death that they're going to be
the minority in this country. And that's what they can handle.
These white men, these white conservative Christian men, they want
their white women to shut up, stop working, stop going

(33:01):
to college, and just lay your lass down, get pregnant,
have babies, and get in the kitchen. That's what they want.
It is a race policy because they can't stand the
fact that you have an increasing number of Latinos African America.
They can't handle it because in their view, this is America,

(33:24):
it's ours. And from that movie movie I always showed
the good Shepherd when he said the rest of you
were just visiting. That is their view. I'm gonna go
to a break. We come back, we're gonna talk about
another hazing case. And you know how I feel about this.
It just drives me crazy that we got young black

(33:45):
men who are going to college who should not be
coming home with broken bones in body bags for pledging
and paternity. So we've tald about the ladies's case out
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Speaker 1 (35:39):
False. Universities of the Mississippi and to make us a
five fraternity in corporator facing a federal laws shue from
a student who says he was hospitalized after being hazed.
Raphael Joseph alleges the abuse of beginning December twenty twenty two,
culminating in April twenty twenty three through the fraternity's so
called hell Night. Joseph claims he was beaten so severely

(35:59):
with wooden paddle that he was rushed to the hospital.
He spent nearly eleven days there, underwent surgery will see
the blood transfusion, and had to relearn how to walk.
The loss of the legens and university officials were aware
of the abuse but failed to intervene or discipline those responsible.
His attorney, Queen McKenzie, joines us right now, I'm glad
to have you on the show. So, okay, this was

(36:21):
two years ago. So why is this now being reported now?
Was it previously reported? Why is it lawsuit being fouled
two years later?

Speaker 12 (36:30):
Brolin, thank you so much for having me tonight. The
lawsuit is being reported now because of accountability and lack
of action. We've gone through the proper process of getting
to where we are, but this is the beginning stages
of trying to get some sort of accountability in action.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
Okay, So when you say lack of accountability, so what
does that mean? Is the chapter still in operation as
anyone being being suspended or kicked out of the fraternity?
Are they still on campus?

Speaker 12 (37:08):
It's my understanding that it's a possibility that they may
not be on campus at this time. But when the
incident first arose, they were definitely on campus.

Speaker 1 (37:20):
So I said, but you don't know if today they
have a chapter on campus.

Speaker 7 (37:24):
That's correct, That's correct.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Okay. Was there any response from the fraternity? I take it.
And first of all, when when you brought onto this case, I.

Speaker 12 (37:35):
Was brought on from the inset the onset of the case.
So I've been alone for the entire ride of the
treatment and healing process and everything of that sort.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
So has there been any response from a Mega Sci
Fi at all?

Speaker 7 (37:52):
No? No response?

Speaker 1 (37:54):
So many y'all, y'all contacted the national office. They've not
responded at all.

Speaker 7 (38:00):
No, we haven't received a response.

Speaker 1 (38:06):
They no, no go ahead, go ahead.

Speaker 12 (38:10):
Yeah, they haven't. We tried to, you know, reach out
to them and get a response. But there's, like I said,
no accountability, no action whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
So okay, So when when, when, when this happened, did
he pursue charges? Did he call the cops to say,
I've been physically assaulted. I want to press charges.

Speaker 12 (38:36):
Well, unfortunately, I'm not at liberty to discuss the criminal
aspects of the case. That would be left up to
the prosecution. But according to the complaint, he's seeking damages
for the wrong for ects that were taken in a
civil matter.

Speaker 1 (38:54):
No, no, I understand that. I understand this is a
civil lawsuit. What I'm asking is this took place two
years ago, okay, And so it took place, he said
it culminated on Hell night in April twenty twenty three.
He spent eleven days in jail. Did he reach out
to authorities to file a to press charges against the

(39:15):
individuals that actually beat him or allegedly beat him.

Speaker 12 (39:21):
I'm not sure if he pressed charges, But it's my
understanding that there were some criminal aspects to the case.
But I don't I don't deal with the criminal side
to the prosecution.

Speaker 1 (39:32):
No, no, no, I understand you don't do with the
criminal side. But the point I'm making is is, was
anybody ever charged indicted, prosecuted for what took place to him.

Speaker 12 (39:45):
They were charged who exactly, I'm not sure, but I
do not know if an actual trial has been here
or any type of censusing.

Speaker 1 (39:58):
Okay, so you're so you're saying that there were folks
who would actually charged. All right, fine, I mean we'll
look that up. But again, I would think that first
of all, that would actually bolster your your your civil
lawsuit if that was the case, because if they were
actually convicted, I mean, that actually helps your case. So
none of that is in your lawsuit.

Speaker 12 (40:18):
No, No, none of this lawsuit doesn't deal with anything criminal.

Speaker 1 (40:23):
I don't understand. Don't in the criminal What I'm saying
is but nothing in regarding that is even in the lawsuit.
Is he still en roll at the school?

Speaker 7 (40:32):
He's not.

Speaker 12 (40:33):
Unfortunately, due to the circumstances and all of the events
that arose after the incident, the lack of sincerety and
just trying to make him feel comfortable from the university
and the organization, he had to withdraw.

Speaker 7 (40:51):
From the school.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Did you enroll somewhere else?

Speaker 12 (40:56):
Eventually he did, but that led him to be about
two years behind, and I think he may have had
to even switch his major because it wasn't available at
the school that he went to.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Andrew got a question.

Speaker 15 (41:11):
Yes, in terms of the theory of the case, can
you talk to us about for the civil case, the
counts and what the theory is on liability.

Speaker 7 (41:23):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (41:24):
In terms of us SIM, it's all about Title nine.
We're alleging that, according to the complaint, we're alleging that
us SIM does not take hazing against males seriously. They
take female hazing cases more seriously than they take male

(41:45):
hazing cases. According to the complaint, USM brushes off male
hazing as boys will be boys, as opposed to if
this were a female, they would have taken more account
of in action. This is the the whole cases about.

(42:05):
They knew that this was going on. This is not
the first time that this has happened on USM campus.
This is not the first time that it involved and
a member of omegasy Fi just the year before the
one of the initiates actually came out at his probate
on crutches. This was visible for everyone to see. No,

(42:30):
and I mean, we're just alleging failure to supervise, failure
to investigate, just not protecting my client's civil rights.

Speaker 15 (42:44):
And also is this is this also against Omegasi Fi
Fraternity or Justice School.

Speaker 7 (42:51):
We listed both in the complaint.

Speaker 12 (42:53):
We actually listed multiple parties within Omegasi Fi. But yes,
Omegasi five Fraternity is a part of his action.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
When you say multiple parties, do you mean members of
nu Ada.

Speaker 7 (43:08):
Yes.

Speaker 12 (43:08):
We listed the local chapter, the local grad chapter, a
couple of the local organizations that may be under an umbrella.
We listed everybody that we feel played a role in
this action.

Speaker 1 (43:24):
All right, then we'll certainly keep us abreast of the
outcome of this case. Mister mcissey, thanks a lot, Thank
you folks. Last night Jimmy Kimmel was back on air,
issued an emotional monologue by twenty eight minute monologue and
it was of course total town was twenty eight minutes.

(43:45):
Of course, he became visibly emotional as he recounted the
support he received from folks all across the country, in
the world. He emphasized the importance of free speech and
sought to clarify his intentions regarding his comments regarding.

Speaker 23 (43:57):
Charlie Kirk disturbed individual. Well, that was really the opposite
of the point I was trying to make. But I
understand that to some that felt either ill timed or unclear,
or maybe both. And for those who think I did
point a finger, I get why you're upset. If the
situation was reversed, there was a good chance I'd have
felt the same way.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
I have many.

Speaker 23 (44:17):
Friends and family members on the other side who I
love and remain close to, even though we don't agree on.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
Politics at all.

Speaker 23 (44:25):
I don't think the murderer who shot Charlie Kirk represents anyone.

Speaker 4 (44:29):
This was a sick person who.

Speaker 23 (44:31):
Believed violence was a solution and it isn't it ever,
And also selfishly I am I am a person who
gets a lot of threats. I get many ugly and
scary threats against my life, my wife, my kids, my
co workers because of what I choose to say. And
I know those threats don't come from the kind of

(44:53):
people on the right who I know and love. So
that's what I wanted to say on that subject. But
I don't want to make this about me because and
I know this is what people say when they make
things about them. But I really don't know this show.
This show is not important. What is important is that
we get to live in a country that allows us
to have a show like this. I've had the opportunity

(45:22):
to meet and spend time with comedians and talk show
hosts from countries like Russia, countries in the Middle East
who told me they would get thrown in prison for
making fun of those in power, and worse than being
thrown in prison, they know how lucky we are here.
Our freedom to speak is what they admire most about
this country. And that's something I'm embarrassed to say. I

(45:42):
took for granted until they pulled my friend Steven off
the air and try to coerce the affiliates who run
our show in the cities that you live in to
take my show off the air. That's not legal, that's
not American, that is un American, and it.

Speaker 24 (45:56):
Is so dangerous.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
Now the White House has spent lots of time claiming,
oh my god, they had nothing to do with this,
that they're not going that this was really all about
Disney m Really, this is what the twice impeached, criminally
connected con man Donald Trump actually posted on his ridiculous
Little Truth social I can't believe ABC fake News gave

(46:20):
Jimmy Kimmel's job back. The White House was told by
ABC that his show was canceled. Something happened between then
and now because his audience is gone and his talent
was never there. Why would they want someone back who
does so poorly, who's not funny, and who puts the
network in jeopardy by playing ninety nine percent positive Democratic garbage.
He is yet another arm of the DNC, and to

(46:40):
the best of my knowledge, that would be a major
illegal campaign contribution, which is BS. I think we're going
to test ABC out on this. Let's see how we do.
Last time I went after them, they gave me sixteen
million dollars. This one sounds even more lucrative. A true
bunch of losers. Let Jimmy Kimmel rot in his bad ratings,
So Andrew, this is Trump act, contradicting the lies his

(47:02):
own people were telling.

Speaker 16 (47:05):
Yeah, how does he say that he had nothing to
do with it?

Speaker 15 (47:07):
But then he says, well, let's try to get some
more money out of him for doing it.

Speaker 16 (47:12):
It makes absolutely no sense.

Speaker 15 (47:14):
And then the stream of consciousness, which is clearly a
trademark when you know that he's actually the one tweeting,
is something that at this point, I don't think that
anybody is taking this seriously except for the Right. But
the problem that we hear is now Jimmy Kimmel and
the clip that you just showed seems a little bit

(47:36):
scared and watching his words, because I've watched him in
the past and he usually is very confident in the
words that he's using, and it seems like here that
he's being very careful. And I think that that's a
sign that the First Amendment is eroding.

Speaker 16 (47:53):
That now every time he.

Speaker 15 (47:54):
Speaks, he's going to wonder, is this something that's going
to land the network in a lawsuit, thing that's gonna
get my job taken away from me again? And I
think that all journalists and and comedians, because that's what
he is at the end of the day, He's a comedian.

Speaker 16 (48:11):
Uh, that they're.

Speaker 15 (48:12):
Gonna all in national television, They're all gonna start changing,
They're gonna start changing their act, and unfortunately the jokes
are may not be as funny because of it.

Speaker 1 (48:24):
Well, look, we know how ridiculous he is, we know
how shameful he is, and so the right is really
just playing this up, loving this, and that's just who
these people are. So it's, uh, it's utterly ridiculous in

(48:45):
terms of how they're responding. But it's but it's no shock.
It's it's no shock until these people just frankly meaningless
to me whatsoever. So that's what they do if you
want to talk about stupid and how petty, childish, sophomoric

(49:09):
Donald Trump is. So this idiot has now unveiled this portrait, this, this, this,
this row of portraits, and it really is despicable what
he's done. So so let me let me, let me
let me show you all this. Give me one second.
So I saw this earlier on the Twitter feed of

(49:31):
this Margot Martin, who was a special Assistant to the
President and communications advisor. So you know Trump who is
just doing just stupid stuff. So you know that that
that walk to the White House. We've often seen videos pictures,
you know, in movies as well, and usually so you

(49:53):
have the colonnade, got the the columns, and you got
the wall. So Donald Trump decided, you know, he can't
just he can't help himself. He has to slap something
on any wall. So this idiot is now put up
what is called a presidential Walk of fame. Okay, come on,
come my pad, I don't I don't get it. But but,

(50:15):
but but look how just stupid this is. Okay, but
I want to show you how childish he is. Okay,
so then you see, for some reason I don't get it,
he decides to elevate the Bill Clinton, George W. Bush,
Barack Obama, then his ridiculous photo. Then what he's done.
He is so trash, he's so trash. Instead of a

(50:38):
photo of President Joe Biden, he puts up a photo
of the auto pen with Joe Biden's signature, and then
we get to see his shameful, ugly mug. Andrew, this
is what I mean by a childish, despicable human being.

Speaker 16 (51:00):
I mean, I was gonna ask first, because I think.

Speaker 15 (51:03):
I'm still believing that I'm dealing with a logical.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
No you're not. No, you're not. You weren't four years
you weren't eight years ago. You're not dealing with now.
These people were childish, pathetic, and they're despicable, and they're.

Speaker 16 (51:20):
Just coming up with new ways just to push the envelope.

Speaker 15 (51:24):
You know, somebody in a meeting had to have said, hey, look,
we're not going to put up his picture because we
hate him that much because he beat us, so we're
gonna go ahead and just put up a signature instead, right,
and let's make fun of him that way. And then
that's also, you know, till things up so that everyone
knows who's at the top, because I'm at the top,

(51:45):
because I'm the best. Right, I don't have a very
good Donald Trump impression, but I imagine that that's how the
meeting went.

Speaker 16 (51:51):
There was no opposition.

Speaker 15 (51:53):
Everybody probably had a good chuckle out of it, and
then they pushed it out to the masses to disrespect
a very good president and Joseph R.

Speaker 16 (52:01):
Biden.

Speaker 15 (52:01):
So I'm not surprised, but every time I see things
like this, I always am just like this. They just
keep pushing the envelope further and further away from being
a professional and from being actual politicians and government officials

(52:23):
that we can actually take serious.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Well, we can't take this one serious, all right. I
gotta go to the break. We come back. Donald Trump
is constantly attacking educators. So all these other MAGA folks
all across the country, the National Education Association, the NEA,
they're doing all they can to fight back. We'll talk
to their president next.

Speaker 16 (52:41):
Right here.

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He said the quiet part out loud. Black votes are
a threat, so they erased them. After the Supreme Court
gutted the Voting Rights Act in twenty thirteen, Republican legislatures
moved fast new voter id laws, rolling place shutdowns purges
of black voters from the roles. Trump's Justice Department didn't
stop it. They joined in. In twenty eighteen, is DOJ

(53:10):
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This week on the Other Side of Change.

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by our government.

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Speaker 1 (54:52):
There's a massive attack against public education in this country
by the far right maga Donald Trump. They are trying
they want to dismantle the US Department of Education. They're
cutting grants, they're cutting access, they're getting ridden meals for
low income students, you name it, and they claim that
this is all in the interest of improving education. Then
you've got Ryan Walter, the superintendent of Oklahoma, who says, oh,

(55:15):
his great idea is to mandate every high school have
a Turning Points USA chapter on their campus. How is
that going to improve the low education and the low
test scores and passage rates of Oklahoma? You see, this
is what these folks all about. And what it is again,
it is to drive and to enrage their particular base

(55:37):
as well. And they always are attacking the teachers' unions.
Becky Pringle, she's the president of the National Education Association.
She joins us right now, glad to have you hear
these snap cuts for folks who don't understand. And I
think a lot of people don't understand. And I remember
having a teacher at my high school, Jacky's High School.

(55:58):
I had gone back and I was talking to the
faculty there and we were talking, and she said, people
do not understand what it's like to be in a
classroom with a group of angry children. And she said,
and then when you find out why they're angry, she said,
when you had one meal the previous day, when you

(56:20):
come to school and you haven't had breakfast, When you
understand that life, she said, it's a whole different deal.
I working in Chicago. You know the amount of money
the city of Chicago was spending to literally send food
home with kids because they were starving. This is a
real thing. And for these so called pro lifers, they

(56:42):
don't give a damn. Their whole deal is just cut it.

Speaker 16 (56:50):
Roland.

Speaker 6 (56:50):
It's good to be here with you again.

Speaker 22 (56:54):
You're you're absolutely right, and we are fighting to sure
that our children eat. Who doesn't want to feed the babies, Roland,
who doesn't want to feed the babies?

Speaker 1 (57:09):
The republic the Republican Party.

Speaker 22 (57:12):
Clearly, because when they pass that big, horrible, really bad,
no good bill, it cunt major programs that impact our
kids directly. So you started with food, because that's as basic.

Speaker 16 (57:27):
As it kids.

Speaker 6 (57:27):
Right.

Speaker 22 (57:28):
If kids come to school hungry, they can't learn. If
kids come to school hungry, not only can they not learn,
but they're more likely to interrupt the learning of other students.
If kids come to school hungry, then we know that
they are not focused, not academically, they can work collaboratively.

Speaker 6 (57:50):
With other students. We know that we have evidence and.

Speaker 22 (57:53):
By the way, Roland, we also have evidence that they
are not successful academically, and not that we actually need
evidence of that.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
Do we actually need evidence that when people are hungry
they can't focus.

Speaker 22 (58:07):
So this administration, as you know, cut one hundred and
sixty one hundred and eighty six billion dollars from the
student of Nutrition program, and that means that eighteen million
children will lose school meals.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
And we all saw it right. In exact, we forgot.

Speaker 22 (58:26):
We all saw it in COVID when the light was dining,
the light of inequities around everything was sowing.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
We saw it wasn't.

Speaker 22 (58:35):
Only our kids, by the way, who came up to
those places where our teachers and school bus drivers and
food service workers were handing out meals. It was our
families too. We have an issue in this country with hunger.
And when we're talking about cutting money for our kids

(58:56):
to be able to eat, not only is that not okay,
but we have to understand what that means, not just
for the hungry child, but for all of our children.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
And again, when we talk about STAP benefits, I think
people really are confused. Some people seem to have this
idea that we're just giving people, you know, a thousand,
two thousand and three thousand dollars a month to buy food.
That's not what the average SNAP benefit is.

Speaker 6 (59:28):
It's not.

Speaker 22 (59:29):
And let me add to that too, wrong because you know,
I know you've heard this too, that many people don't
believe they benefit from SNAP benefits.

Speaker 6 (59:43):
But let me just point out two states.

Speaker 22 (59:44):
In Texas, over three million kids depend on those benefits.
That's two thirds two thirds of our children in that state.
When we go to Mississippi, it's the majority, vast majority
of their students that are depending on that. And then
when we add to it the cuts to Medicaid. Most

(01:00:07):
people don't know that over forty percent of our kids
get their health care from Medicaid. So combined, how in
the world do we think our kids can be successful,
not only in learning, but in life.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
Well, guess what, They're not going to have.

Speaker 22 (01:00:28):
Those opportunities in access. They're not going to advance academically
or be able to work collaboratively and pro solve these
wicked problems that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:40):
Are facing this country. They're not going to be able to.

Speaker 22 (01:00:42):
Do that if they are hungry and they don't and
they're not healthy, and they're not healthy.

Speaker 1 (01:00:50):
I'm sitting here looking at this is the CBS News story.
Give me one second. I'm gonna pull this up because
I think people need to understand. They lay out about
two point four million people, or about six percent of enrollees,
could lose access to SNAP. They also their story says

(01:01:10):
millions more will see their monthly benefit amounts shrink because
of other changes mandated by the laws, such as a
new restriction on how individuals benefits are calculated. The total
pool of people who will either be cut from SNAP
or see smaller monthly benefits could reach twenty two point
three million US families, according to a July analysis from

(01:01:33):
the Urban Institute. About forty two million individuals in twenty
two point three million households received food stamps in twenty
twenty three, according to a US Department Agricultural report on
the program. And again, it's food. And these folks have
been going through all the you can't buy certain food items.

(01:01:53):
How dare you you'd be buying lobster? What are you doing?
Stuff along those lines, and you just sit here and
to shake your head to you like, what the hell
is wrong with you? And here's the other deal. A
whole bunch of these people because see again, a lot
of these average white people like here thinking, oh, that's
the that's the black folks. They're helping Leegland. No, No,

(01:02:13):
they're cutting the benefits of poor white people.

Speaker 22 (01:02:17):
It's one of the reasons why Roland and I talk
about the outsized impact in rural communities. And we have
rural white communities, we have oral black communities, rural Indigenous communities,
and the impact is outside because those communities depend on
funding from the federal government more than others. And let

(01:02:38):
me add this to Rolan, because this is something that
don't that a lot of people don't know. When the
Trump administration decided to cut everything that supports the American people,
some of the things that they the folks didn't know
that it's directly tied to health and to food and

(01:02:59):
that is just cut to the US Department of Agriculture.
People don't know that those cuts actually impacted our schools
in this way. We were not getting the funding that
we had that we had gotten previously for creating and
making healthy foods. We had done so much work Roland

(01:03:21):
during the Biden administration to really not only talk about
feeding kids, but making sure that they had healthy foods.

Speaker 6 (01:03:29):
So during that administration we really dug into what's called
scratch cooking. And you and I know what that is.

Speaker 16 (01:03:37):
Not everybody knows what that is.

Speaker 22 (01:03:39):
You know, rolland my mom was the head cook at
a head Start center center in Philly. And I'm gonna
tell you my mother could do some stuff with government
issue cheese.

Speaker 6 (01:03:51):
That what what would make you want to slap your mouth?

Speaker 22 (01:03:54):
Not mine, of course, I'm up every official from the
school district to find their way to her head start
center for that Thursday, that Wednesday Thanksgiving meal because she
knew how to do scratch cooking, and the US Department
of Agriculture was for finding funds and schools so we
could teach our food service workers how to do that

(01:04:15):
kind of scratch cooking so they could work with healthy
ingredients and fresh foods, cut cut, cut, So it's not
only the food itself, but it is the quality of
the food to Roland.

Speaker 6 (01:04:28):
And that's what we're talking about when.

Speaker 22 (01:04:31):
We talk about not doing what we must so that
our kids can learn and they can live and they
can thrive.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
This was a graphic that CBS story is pretty interesting
and so his what's crazy. You're talking about snap benefits
on the high end of two hundred and thirty one
dollars a month, and it shows that each state people
who are expected to lose at least twenty five bucks
a month. Some people can lose more. We're not talking
about lots of money, that's what's crazy. But guess what

(01:05:03):
if you're if you were getting two hundred thirty one
dollars or you were getting one hundred dollars and you
got twenty five bucks cut. Yeah, that's a big number.
That's a huge cut.

Speaker 6 (01:05:13):
It is a huge cut.

Speaker 22 (01:05:15):
And one of the things that we've been doing at
the NA Roland is, you know, when when people hear
you quote those numbers, it doesn't it really, it doesn't
become real for them.

Speaker 6 (01:05:27):
They can't. You know who who understands billions.

Speaker 22 (01:05:30):
Of dollars, Well, there are some people who understand that,
but the average person.

Speaker 6 (01:05:34):
Doesn't understand that. So one of the things that.

Speaker 22 (01:05:36):
We did at the NEA was that we broke those
those cuts, whether we're talking about snap cuts, or we're
talking about Title I cuts for our students from low
income families, or we're talking about cuts to special education,
making sure that we're supporting our students with disabilities, and

(01:05:56):
we broke it down Roland.

Speaker 6 (01:05:58):
From now those billillions of dollars stay by state and
then go digging.

Speaker 22 (01:06:04):
Even further, congressional district by congressional district, so that people
could talk about it in real numbers. So they understood no, no, no, no, no, Yeah, billion,
one hundreds of eighty six billion dollars. But let me
tell you what that means in your school. Let me
tell you how many kids in your school will not eat.
Let me tell you how many kids in your community

(01:06:26):
will go hungry.

Speaker 6 (01:06:27):
That's what we have to do.

Speaker 22 (01:06:29):
And I invite your listeners to go to Anya dot
org slash protect so you can get more information and
you can break it down, because it's got to be
We've got to engage in that, you know, organizing one
o one where we're having those conversations with individual people
so they understand how it's impacting their students and then

(01:06:50):
how that impacts all students.

Speaker 1 (01:06:53):
Absolutely, the battle continues, and as we say, elections have consequences.
And so for the folks who thought this wasn't gonna happen,
they did. And trust me, Republicans, they're not done. They
actually want to get rid of SNAP all together. So
folk need to understand what's really at stake here.

Speaker 22 (01:07:11):
They do, and let me tell you something, rolling They
may try to silence us.

Speaker 6 (01:07:17):
But that's not going to happen. We will lift up
our voices and we will.

Speaker 22 (01:07:21):
Tell the stories of real children and real educators and
real parents who are fighting for a public education system
that is at the cornerstone of this democracy.

Speaker 6 (01:07:34):
And we will not stop.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
All right, Becky Prigle. We appreciate it. Thanks you a lot.
Thanks Rolling all right, folks going to break. What happens
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Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
Republican Jackson at the rally is running against Congresswoman uh
Mickey Ryll for New Jersey governor. They had a debate
and during this exchange the issue of schools and racial
segregation came up. Listen to what Homeboy said.

Speaker 29 (01:13:00):
Since twenty eighteen, New Jersey has been embroiled in a
lawsuit arguing more needs to be done to improve the
state segregated school districts, a problem rooted in long standing
housing discrimination and the number of small districts. Would you
continue fighting this in court? And what do you think
New Jersey can do to achieve less segregated schools.

Speaker 4 (01:13:20):
We do have the most segregated schools, but I wonder
if we would be having this discussion if the performance
of schools with predominantly black student populations were outperforming schools
with predominantly white populations. We need to get back on
day one to improving all of our schools, and I
intend to do that with a high impact curriculum. New
Jersey recently slipped from two to twelve on the national

(01:13:42):
report cards. Most of that's because we haven't made up
for all the learning laws following the pandemic. When Film
rev and the Democrats shut down our schools for two years,
we opened up our nursing homes where we closed down
our schools. Louisiana and Mississippi had moved significantly, Louisiana from
forty eight to thirty two. With a high impact curriculum.
What is that? Exactly? If your child is behind grade

(01:14:02):
level and any of the critical life skills like reading, writing, math,
that child will spend the next market period in the
one thereafter doing nothing other than reading, writing math to
get them on grade level. The data is clear. I'm
a data driven guy. As an MBA CPA. If the
child is not on grade level for reading, writing, math,
by the end of eighth grade, more than likely they
will be underemployed their entire life. So while that law supersedes,

(01:14:25):
let's fix the schools on day one with a high
impact curriculum.

Speaker 5 (01:14:33):
So I spoke before about county based school systems because
that can help address the segregation that we have going
on in this state. It's also the way we have
some of our best performing high schools.

Speaker 4 (01:14:47):
But we need to do more.

Speaker 5 (01:14:48):
We need high intensity tutoring because we know there's a
learning loss, and that's a special kind of tutoring that
I've supported here in the state to make sure students
get back on track. We also need to address third
grade reading and make sure we're pushing in phonics based reading.
We know that's the best way to help children read,
and it's a reversal of the way reading has been

(01:15:09):
taught lately. And we know third grade is that critical
inflection point because if you're not reading a grade level
by third grade, you're not going to be able to
move on very well to your math and social studies
and history work if you can't read your homework. So
in these ways, we can really push in as a state,
get better outcomes and address the segregation that we have.

Speaker 4 (01:15:30):
Going on here. Could you have five you're going to
with the lawsuit? Clarify? Could you clarify if you're going
to continue to pursue the lawsuit. I don't think it's
the governant's pursuing the lawsuit. The entity that's pursuing the lawsuit.
I'm not going to get in the way. What I'm
going to do on day one is fix our educational system.
It's not the executive branch that's pursuing that lawsuit.

Speaker 29 (01:15:50):
Well, they're fighting the lawsuit. The state is fighting the lawsuit.

Speaker 4 (01:15:55):
Yeah, we're not going to do that. They let the
lawsuit prosed. But I'll tell you what. I was in
North the morning at a house of worship that has
the largest black congregation in the state, and you know
what they said to me, fix our school system. Fix
our school system. So there's a number of metrics that
tell us if a school system is failing. Attendance rate,
graduation rate, performance on sterinized test, readiness for career, if

(01:16:18):
you're not going to high school, going to college. If
a school system's failing in two, three, or four out
of four of those categories that district, that community needs choice.
I'm going to give them choice. My opponent is not
going to give them choice.

Speaker 29 (01:16:32):
Mikey Cheryl.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
But thirty seconds.

Speaker 5 (01:16:34):
For that thirty seconds, I think what you just heard
is a very clear difference. I care deeply about our
school system, and I'm going to make sure it performs better.
I'm going to make sure that we're educating children for
the future, especially with AI coming. But I'm also going
to attack the segregation that we have going on in
the state. My opponent doesn't care about that. He just

(01:16:54):
wants to talk about the schools, but has not come
forward with any solution for the segregation. I care about both.
That's what I'm going to do as governor.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
On the final word, we could integrate the Nork school
system tomorrow and it's not going to improve student performance.
We need to change the curriculum. Final thought, Michael Cheryl, before.

Speaker 5 (01:17:23):
I think you heard again that he has no intention
of addressing the segregation in this state.

Speaker 1 (01:17:29):
He Andrew. I thought it was interesting, Well, you know,
this was reversion. It was it was nearly all black
schools performing at the top. With me be having this conversation, Yes,
we would because white folks would be losing their minds.

Speaker 16 (01:17:43):
Absolutely.

Speaker 15 (01:17:44):
And the issue that I think both of those candidates
in that clip did not address is the fact that
it matters what zip code you are in is what
school you end up going to. So someone can forward
to live in a certain zip code, they don't have
the opportunity to go to a school that might be

(01:18:06):
better funded. And then the other issue of are you
underfunding these schools and certain zip codes? And then you're
giving more money to schools and other zip codes. Because
it seemed like he was going to continue that same trend.
It didn't seem like he wanted any kind of equality.
Said he wanted to change your curriculum, But he talked,

(01:18:28):
He talked nothing about the funding issue and the systematic
racism that's happening in New Jersey that's preventing that's that's
promoting this segregation.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
Yeah, I just I'm like, dude, come on, we know
what the hell is going on when it comes to
these schools. Liftout play any of these little silly games.
Speaking of silly, y'all, the Internet is just always showing
themselves out. So some folks put together this satirical video

(01:19:02):
of a lot of these Republican talking points. And then
I saw it and they use AI for a lot
of it. I thought it was absolutely hilarious. So what
the hell? Here we go?

Speaker 19 (01:19:12):
Sure the bill cut off your access to crutches.

Speaker 4 (01:19:14):
What now, it's fine.

Speaker 16 (01:19:16):
If billionaires walk taller, I'll crawl lower.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
That's freedom. My tuition tripled, no more federal aid.

Speaker 16 (01:19:24):
Still glad we voted for him.

Speaker 11 (01:19:26):
Yeah, totally worth it.

Speaker 16 (01:19:28):
Billionaires need a tax break.

Speaker 1 (01:19:31):
The beautiful bill shut our hospital down, closest ones out
of state.

Speaker 4 (01:19:35):

Speaker 30 (01:19:37):
Hell yeah, I might even become a martyr.

Speaker 23 (01:19:42):
One of the perks of a cross country trip is
stopping for a meal and meeting the friendly folks who
make up the hot and shoul of our country.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
Hello, we're from the Northeast.

Speaker 4 (01:19:58):
Okay, then we'll fifty five pancakes to go. So I'll

(01:20:33):
be losing my health insurance.

Speaker 30 (01:20:34):
Don't worry about your son's cancer.

Speaker 1 (01:20:36):
We've got thoughts and prayers. Billionaires needed another yacht.

Speaker 16 (01:20:42):
They raised our taxes and cut medicare.

Speaker 3 (01:20:45):
I'm gonna die.

Speaker 30 (01:20:47):

Speaker 16 (01:20:48):
You're right. Anything for our king, and.

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Please consult your local representative.

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Uh, Andrew, I thought that was great. I mean, because
it's right all these people here voting against their own
interest and they should be exposed.

Speaker 16 (01:21:16):
They said, they said, And kudos whoever did that video.
I thought that that was great.

Speaker 15 (01:21:21):
And you know, they absolutely just voting against your interests
and that just that that just put it together so perfectly.

Speaker 16 (01:21:29):
I thought that was great.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
Yep, I thought it was on points, speaking on point.
How American media covered Donald Trump's stupid speech to the
United Nations was really pathetic. And this fool is still
going on and on and on. We're going free grow.
You know who turned on tiller prompt role and the
air collator started working. I'm like, like, you're petulant, little child.

(01:21:52):
But the folks at the BBC, they had no problem
eviscerating Donald Trump, showing uh, the level of pittediness in
stupidity and the lie after lie after lie. If y'all
want to see how mainstream media and America should be
reporting on this, watch what the BBC did.

Speaker 32 (01:22:13):
President Trump has addressed world leaders at the United Nations
in New York for the first time in five years.
In an extraordinary speech, he took aim at European countries,
saying they were going to hell because of immigration and
a failed experiment of open borders. He criticized London's mayor,
the Sadik Khan, the first Muslim mayor of a Western capital,

(01:22:34):
and said London wanted to go to sharer Law. A
spokesman for the mayor said they wouldn't dignify the president's
appalling and bigoted comments with a response. Donald Trump also
called climate change the greatest con job perpetrated on the world,
and said green energy schemes were a joke. Well, BBC
verifies Nick Beek has been looking at each of his claims.

(01:22:54):
More from him in a moment, but first, Our North
America editor Sarah Smith is in New York and has
just sent us this report.

Speaker 11 (01:23:04):
Donald Trump came with a message to the UN about
where it's going wrong and to tell its member countries
what they need to change. Railing against what he called
the double tailed monster of immigration and green energy, he
repeated his familiar claim to have ended seven wars and
complained he'd had no help from the UN and doing so.

Speaker 33 (01:23:23):
All I got from the United Nations was an escalator
that on the way up stopped right in the middle.
If the first lady wasn't in great shape, she would
have fallen. And then a teleprompter that didn't work. This
is These are the two things I got from.

Speaker 24 (01:23:40):
The United Nations.

Speaker 33 (01:23:41):
A bad escalator and a bad teleprompter, Thank you very much.

Speaker 11 (01:23:47):
The escalator stopped just as he got on, A perfect
illustration for mister Trump of everything he thinks is wrong
with the UN. He talked about the conflicts he's not
been able to end in Ukraine and in Gaza, criticizing
nations like the UK who have recognized Palestinian statehood.

Speaker 24 (01:24:03):
We can't forget October seventh, can we now?

Speaker 33 (01:24:07):
As if to encourage continued conflict, some of this body
seeking to unilaterally recognize a Palestinian state. The rewards would
be too great for Hamas terrorists for their atrocities. This
would be a reward for these horrible atrocities on Ukraine.

Speaker 11 (01:24:28):
He said he could impose much tougher sanctions on Vladimir Putin,
but wound unless European countries stop buying energy from Russia.

Speaker 33 (01:24:36):
And Europe has to step it up. They can't be
doing what they're doing. They're buying oil and gas from
Russia while they're fighting Russia. It's embarrassing to them, and
it was very embarrassing to them when I found out
about it. I can tell you that they have to
immediately cease all energy purchases from Russia.

Speaker 24 (01:24:58):
Otherwise we're all wasting a lot time.

Speaker 11 (01:25:01):
Immigration, he said, is destroying countries around the world. Seeing
Europe in particular, is in serious trouble.

Speaker 33 (01:25:08):
They've been invaded by a force of illegal aliens like
nobody's ever seen before.

Speaker 24 (01:25:13):
Illegal aliens are pouring into Europe.

Speaker 33 (01:25:16):
Nobody is ever and nobody's doing anything to change it
to get them out.

Speaker 24 (01:25:22):
It's not sustainable.

Speaker 11 (01:25:24):
He singled out Sadik Khan, the mayor of London, for criticism.

Speaker 33 (01:25:27):
I look at London, where you have a terrible mayor, terrible,
terrible mayor, and it's been so changed, so changed.

Speaker 24 (01:25:36):
Now they want to go to Sharia law. But you're
in a different country. You can't do that.

Speaker 11 (01:25:43):
Mister Kahn has said he's not going to dignify these
bigoted comments with the response. The other great threat facing
the world, according to President Trump, is not climate change,
but attempts to halt it with renewable energy. Global warming,
he said, is a hoax.

Speaker 33 (01:25:58):
It's the greatest Khanja ever perpetrated on the world, in
my opinion.

Speaker 11 (01:26:03):
He specifically chided the UK for not drilling from more
oil under the North Sea. For almost an hour, he
lectured world leaders on what they're doing wrong as he
bragged about what he sees as his great successes in office.

Speaker 32 (01:26:21):
But first let's go to BBC, verifies Nick Beek in Washington,
and Nick, you've been going through some of the claims.
Let's start with London wants to go to Sharia law.

Speaker 30 (01:26:34):
Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 31 (01:26:35):
So for this was the startling claim made by President
Trump today, part of his message that immigration is destroying
European countries, including the UK. We know that for the
best part of a decade, Trump has attacked Cecidi Kahan,
the Mayor of London, But this appears to be the
first time the President has claimed that London wants to
go to Sharia law. There was this myth on the

(01:26:55):
internet about five years ago that was quickly and easily
debunked that the.

Speaker 30 (01:27:00):
Legal system would be moving to sharia law.

Speaker 1 (01:27:03):
So that was then.

Speaker 31 (01:27:04):
Today the Mayor of London's office said that these comments
didn't really dignify a response.

Speaker 30 (01:27:11):
They called them appalling.

Speaker 31 (01:27:12):
And bigoted, and a government minister said for the record
that Trump's claim was false.

Speaker 32 (01:27:17):
What about climate change, the President said it was the
greatest conjob ever.

Speaker 30 (01:27:24):
Yeah, he did, Sophie.

Speaker 31 (01:27:25):
The thing is that decades of specialist research really torpedoes
that argument. The vast majority of scientists and experts say
that climate change caused by humans is real.

Speaker 30 (01:27:36):
And here's a quote.

Speaker 31 (01:27:36):
This is from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change IPCC,
made up of hundreds of leading scientists. Human activities, principally
through emissions of greenhouse gases, have unequivocally caused global warming.

Speaker 32 (01:27:52):
And finally, he also said he told world leaders that
he has ended seven wars.

Speaker 8 (01:27:57):
Has he.

Speaker 30 (01:28:00):
No, he hasn't, Sophie, that is not the case.

Speaker 31 (01:28:03):
Trump claimed that thousands of people were dying in each
of these seven wars he talked about, But the reality
is very different. Some of them were very quick skirmishes
across borders. There was one that was a dispute between
Egypt and Ethiopia over water, over the construction of a
dam on the River Nile. There was no fighting there.
President Trump says he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. But

(01:28:25):
the war in Gaza continues, as to the war in Ukraine,
which of course mister Trump said he could end in
just one day.

Speaker 32 (01:28:34):
Sophie Nikki, thank you well. Sarah Smith is still with us,
as you just saw. Sarah. How did this address to
the United Nations go down?

Speaker 11 (01:28:45):
Well, that's really interesting because you could see how uneasy
many of the world leaders listening to it were by
the looks on their faces. But they haven't come out
and criticized them yet. In fact, we've had the UN
Secretary General repeating that they believe that America is essential
to the work of the United Nations. Are sort of
under line from the European Union, for instance, has said
she agrees with Donald Trump about Europe's need to end

(01:29:08):
its reliance on Russian oil. I mean, Donald Trump came
here seven years ago and bragged about his achievements in office,
and the people listening to him actually laughed at him.
It was a humiliating moment for him. But things have
changed so much. Nobody dares do that now. So even
as they listen to him lecture them on how they
should be running their own countries with these fixations on

(01:29:30):
climate change and on immigration. He was still applauded at
the end of it, because everybody knows they have to
treat Donald Trump much more carefully.

Speaker 32 (01:29:38):
Now I'm North America, Editsar Sarasmith in New York.

Speaker 24 (01:29:40):
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:29:41):
See that's how you break down the lie at the
lie Andrew. But unfortunately national media here, including the live
factory of Fox News, they don't care. They love it.

Speaker 16 (01:29:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:29:52):
I actually watch BBC more often than I watch local
news because when they talk about the United States States,
it's snow holds. And right now they really are looking
at us like we are a joke and that our
leadership is laughable. And it's sad because although they believe
that the United States is important because our historic because

(01:30:16):
of historic reference, right now we have people and leadership
that are all about their self interests, their own hatred
for anything else that is not white man.

Speaker 1 (01:30:29):
I tell you right now, it's listen. They should have
laughed at him because he looked like a buffoon standing
up there insulting other countries. All right, folks, are some
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Speaker 29 (01:31:33):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:31:33):
Predominantly black high school in Memphis, Tennessee was told that
they were just too loud for a football game, and
they got louder. The Memphis Central High School band says
they were barred from playing at a varsity game in
Brighton pretty much white school on Friday because they were
considered a distraction and too loud. In response, the band
showed up not with instruments, but with kazoos. The superintendent

(01:31:58):
of Memphis Shelby County School District, doctor Roger Richmond, released
the statement. He said, I want to address the recent
decision that prevented the Central High School band from performing
at a Brighton High School football game on Friday, September nineteenth,
twenty twenty five. The award winning CCHS band is a
source of pride for our district, having earned top honors
at an international jazz festival earlier this year. Their dedication

(01:32:19):
and talent or exceptional and their performance would have been
a highlight for all in attendance. While Brighton High's administration
expressed concerned about the sportsmanship, is important to note if
there is no TSSAA rule restricting bands from playing during
live game action. As a former high school student athlete
in college drum major, I had know firsthand how athletics
and the arts enrich student experiences. This is why both

(01:32:41):
are pillars of our district's five a's program, because they
helped shape well round the confident young people As a
former principal, I understand the challenge the school leaders. Space
that said, I stayed in full support of the CCHS
banded students, their director, and their principal. These scholars devote
countless hours to practice and deserve opportunities to showcase their
talent and hardway work. We were pleased the CCHS band

(01:33:02):
members and fans attended the game and found an amicable
way to support our student athletes. We are certainly open
to constructive dialogue with the BHS principal and superintendent concerning
their stance on future band appearances. It was hilarious, y'all.
Here's trying to all you up them playing their kazoos
during the game. Yeah that was Uh, that was just

(01:34:43):
too fun there. So uh, I say, hey, next time,
bring cow bells. Just drive them crazy. Uh have cow
bells ringing all day Andrew, just to piss them off.

Speaker 15 (01:34:55):
Yeah yeah, And I mean I love football and just
like the next person, actually ref high school games on
the weekends. But the band is why people are coming
to these games. And I don't understand why you would
not want these kids to play. But it's so funny, Roland,
because you set that up In the beginning of this show,

(01:35:16):
you talked about how we all need to be mindful
that they're not just gonna come out and say the
N word anymore, but they try to build these rules
and attack these different rules to say no, this is
giving your team an advantage, because now your team is
its hype. They have some rhythm, they got their music,
they got their band played in the background, and they're

(01:35:38):
killing us.

Speaker 16 (01:35:38):
So we got to get this band out of here.
We need some kind of noise orders.

Speaker 15 (01:35:42):
And now these kids are so sophisticated and so creative
that they said, well, fine, let's just go ahead and
bring out the consumers.

Speaker 3 (01:35:50):
I love it.

Speaker 1 (01:35:51):
Yeah, just pretty stupid, but you know what, that's how
it is, all right, going to Breakley come back Democratic
how leader Hocking Jeffrey spoke today about the budget impact.
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Speaker 1 (01:37:38):
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Speaker 16 (01:37:45):
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It's over when you are now watching Roland Martin Unfiltered, uncut, unplugged,
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Speaker 1 (01:37:58):
Yeah, I know, Chris can't count on fifty. All right, y'all,
this just happened. Moments ago. Vice President Kama Harris is
having her book tour. She was speaking in Manhattan, and
all of a sudden, pro Palestinian protesters breakout. Y'all. Notice
they never ever go to a Trump event. Now they
broke out at Barack Obama's at a place he was

(01:38:18):
speaking at just last week. Y'all. Keep showing up at
Democrat events, but you never show up at Trump events.
All right, this took place.

Speaker 34 (01:38:27):
Watch this, let's bring this, let's time, and oh my god, listen, listen, listen,

(01:39:08):
please please.

Speaker 11 (01:39:10):
I actually also write about this, okay, which is about.

Speaker 8 (01:39:19):
What I know about how and why.

Speaker 7 (01:39:21):
You were saying what you were saying now and how
I felt about it.

Speaker 16 (01:39:25):
You're not letting me talk.

Speaker 35 (01:39:27):
You know what I I respect like just be I
don't wait, wait wait, let's bring it in. Hey, okay, okay,

(01:39:52):
let's bring the temperature down.

Speaker 3 (01:39:54):
Let's bring the temperature down.

Speaker 8 (01:39:56):
I'm wanting the card president and.

Speaker 35 (01:39:58):
I would say, I understand what's.

Speaker 3 (01:40:14):
Happening right now?

Speaker 28 (01:40:15):
He does.

Speaker 7 (01:40:16):
What is happening to the Palasa and people?

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Is that rating?

Speaker 35 (01:40:20):
Brace heart.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
I did, Andrew. Here's what I understand. They never show
up at a Trump JD Vance event.

Speaker 16 (01:40:39):
Never, No, they don't.

Speaker 15 (01:40:43):
They just choose to show up at democratic events and
causes se causes, whole based scene, this whole interruption.

Speaker 16 (01:40:54):
And then we have the grade who I call the grade.

Speaker 15 (01:40:57):
I know people can debate me about this, but I
call the grade Kamala Harris, former Vice president speaking and
really bringing down the.

Speaker 16 (01:41:06):
Temperature, because she really could have raised the temperature. She
could have said some things to uh, to ignite the
temperature in the room at that point, but she didn't,
and I love her for that. But we do show
up in our own way in their places, Roland. It's
not it's not mad of that's showing up in their spaces,
But we do show up in their spaces as well.

Speaker 34 (01:41:29):
No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
I'm specifically speaking of pro Palestinian protesters. Why is it
that they will interrupt an Obama event, a harrisy event,
but they never interrupt a Trump JD Van's event. And
who's in the White House right now?

Speaker 16 (01:41:47):
Yeah, And you know I would have to disagree with
you on that because I think that they are showing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Up videos Trevin de pros when Trump was.

Speaker 16 (01:41:58):
At when Trump's in Georgetown.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Okay, now what Trump was at Georgetown.

Speaker 16 (01:42:02):
When when Trump was in Georgetown and he was eating
I forget the restaurant was.

Speaker 1 (01:42:08):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I say
the restaurant. Show me when Donald Trump or JD. Vance
is speaking somewhere at a rally whatever, Show me when
they're there.

Speaker 16 (01:42:19):
Oh yeah, you're I agree at the UN speech, there
should have been someone No.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
No, no, no, no, that's that's hold up, that's diplomats. No,
I'm talking about whenever there's a rally. I have never
seen I don't see them ever interrupting a Trump JD
Vance rally. I haven't have you wow, wow, no, no, seriously,

(01:42:47):
have you ever seen hold up? One second? Look, I'm
gonna go to my hold up. Let's see here. JD. Advance. JD.
Advance was speaking today somewhere, running off his mouth lion,
uh a lion, lion, lion, And yeah he was he
was speaking. I mean here, he was speaking somewhere today.

(01:43:10):
I don't recall them showing up there. I don't recall
him interrupted what he had to say.

Speaker 16 (01:43:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:43:18):
So again, so, so what's the point of being a
pro Palestinian activist, and you're and you're showing up at
a Kamala Harris book event. She's not in the White House,
she's lost that power. She's not there, so you show
up at hold up, let's see here because Obama told

(01:43:45):
him like, hey, uh, just so y'all know, I'm not
the person who is in power. You know, let me
see if I can, let me see if I can
find it. Uh. This happened just last week. And and
again he was just you know, sitting there and they

(01:44:06):
didn't say nothing, didn't do nothing.

Speaker 20 (01:44:08):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
And again I just don't understand why they continue to
do this. They will have an outburst at a democratic
function function, but they won't say anything. They won't say
anything when Trump or Van speaking. I don't understand what

(01:44:31):
they're with, what they're getting out of it.

Speaker 15 (01:44:36):
Well, Roland there they protest in different ways, and I
have to push back because they do equal opportunity interruptions.

Speaker 16 (01:44:45):
It may not be at the rallies.

Speaker 1 (01:44:47):
Okay, okay, all right, So if they do it at
a democratic at a democratic event, show me the show me.
When they've done a Republican one, show me where was it?

Speaker 16 (01:44:57):
So it's not no at these rallies or events. Agree
that I don't. I don't have any rallies.

Speaker 15 (01:45:02):
But just a few weeks ago in Georgetown, Donald Trump
was trying to celebrate the fact that we had this
this presence, and there was a lady that came into
Josie Food and interrupted his I remember protest.

Speaker 1 (01:45:19):
I'm being very spec right, I got it, I mean
very okay, gotcha. That's one. What else?

Speaker 15 (01:45:28):
Yeah, I mean they don't show up, and now they
don't get in. They don't always get into the venues.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
No, no, no, no, no. You gave me one. Give
me another.

Speaker 16 (01:45:44):
Hmm. Now I guess I can't give you a public speed.

Speaker 1 (01:45:49):
Just give me. I'm just gonna ask for uh.

Speaker 15 (01:45:53):
Jamie Vance was was in, he was at the Union.
He was at Union station doing this photo op.

Speaker 1 (01:46:02):
This is again, and they with right, and they yelled
at him about the National Guard.

Speaker 16 (01:46:08):
The yelling heaven about the national Guard. They also did
free Palestine as well.

Speaker 1 (01:46:12):
Right, So here we go. This is Obama six six
days ago. So in a week we've seen them go
at Obama, Kamala Harris no evidens what Trump turned up.

Speaker 16 (01:46:24):
The state's currently, So there's no point in shouting at me.

Speaker 1 (01:46:32):
They I there's no point in shouting at me about it.

Speaker 19 (01:46:39):
I'm not in charge of foreign policy currency.

Speaker 1 (01:46:45):
Those who carried out October seventh. So again they'll shout
at Obama. They're shout at Harris. That's two and six days.
I don't see it at a Trump vanc event. I
don't see it at his Secretary of State. I don't

(01:47:06):
see it at a Heggs at the event. I don't
see it at a Christy Know event. It's amazing how
the folk. And again I understand their argument. I understand
what they're saying. I understand why they're doing it. My
problem is it's pointless to show up at event. How
about this here. Show up at a Mike Johnson event,

(01:47:29):
he just speak of the House. Show up at a
Thune event, he's the Senate majority leader. They don't show
up at Republican events.

Speaker 15 (01:47:40):
And I would I believe that what they're trying to
do here is Garner's support from the Democrats, which they have.

Speaker 1 (01:47:50):
Wait, man, hold up, what okay? There's no point in
gun okay, Andrew. Here's the problem. Who controls the White
House right now?

Speaker 16 (01:47:58):
The Republicans?

Speaker 1 (01:47:59):
Who controls the House, Who controls the House, Republican who
controls the Senate, So what the fuck does it matter
trying to get something from Democrats. They don't control a
lever of government. That there's nothing the Democratic Party can
do when it comes to what Israel's doing to Gaza. Nothing.

(01:48:20):
They don't have any power. So you you so, I'm just,
I'm just I don't understand. You protest two people a
former president and the former vice president who's not in office,
but you don't protest the person who is, the people
who are in office who actually have a power. I'm confused.

Speaker 15 (01:48:45):
Now they are pro they still are protesting them, They're
just not doing it in the same format.

Speaker 1 (01:48:51):
Okay, so explain to me again. Okay, gotcha? Okay, a
couple of people a constant Trump at a restaurant in DC.
Got it? Okay, what else? Show me what else?

Speaker 16 (01:49:02):
Don't forget about JD.

Speaker 15 (01:49:03):
Vance that they costed him in Union station as well,
And they do show, they do show up when it
comes to.

Speaker 16 (01:49:14):
I believe it was. Uh were they at the State
of the Union address?

Speaker 22 (01:49:23):
No?

Speaker 16 (01:49:26):
No, hmm, Well somebody needs to speak to that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
No, I'm speaking to it. And what I'm saying is
is performative. If you're going to show up at a
Harris event and a Barack Obama event to people who
are not in power, and you do not show up
and do the same to Vance or Trump, it's a
waste of time.

Speaker 15 (01:49:56):
Well, I think that showing up for Dvans or Trump
is going to be a waste of time anyway, because
they're not They're not going to respect the demands.

Speaker 1 (01:50:03):
Oh oh oh, so hold on, I'm not now confused.
So the people in power aren't going to respect their demands.
So I'm not going to show up there. But I'm
going to show up to two people who are not
in power who actually respected me and my people more
than those two. So that makes sense.

Speaker 16 (01:50:25):
To show to bring awareness.

Speaker 15 (01:50:26):
That does There's going to be a lot more people
that are going to be empathetic to that position.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
As all great, So more people are going to be
empathy with your position by showing an event for Harris
and Obama and nothing will be done about your cause.
But you feel great because you stood up at a
Harris Obama event. But we're just not going to show
up at all to an event of the people who

(01:50:52):
are actually in power.

Speaker 16 (01:50:54):
That yeah, because would it kill.

Speaker 15 (01:50:57):
These politicians to stand up and say that genocide is wrong.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
They have it, seems they have you. No, wait, wait, wait, wait,
I'm confused. They have Obama has Harris has Okay, got it.
They've said that, but they have no power. So normally,
when you protest, you protest the people who are in power. Normally,
you put pressure on the people who are in power.

(01:51:25):
You don't protest. That's like black people doing the Civil
Rights movement, protesting people who weren't the sheriff or the
mayor or the county commissioner or the president. So black
people are like, yeah, we're gonna go protest these people
to change the law. But the people were protesting have

(01:51:48):
no power to change the law. So we're gonna go
protest them, and we're not gonna go protest the people
who actually have the power to change the law. So,
doctor King, no, I'm not gonna go meet with Lyndon
bangs Johnson put pressure on him. I'm gonna go meet
with Harry Truman, who's not even in the White House,

(01:52:08):
to put pressure on him to get LBJ to do something.
Do you see how that makes no sense?

Speaker 16 (01:52:17):
No? I agree with that. What you're the way that
you're presenting it.

Speaker 1 (01:52:22):
Yes, it can make no sense, right, it doesn't make
any sense. So the logic the logic. But okay, if
your goal is to stop something, shouldn't I target the
people who could stop it?

Speaker 16 (01:52:44):
You know, what better place to catch them then while
they're eating dinner, right in their face?

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Okay, one time? Okay, got it? Hold on, hold up,
hold up, that's one time. That's one time they protested Trump.
Give me another one, not that I could think of
off the top of my head, gotcha, But I can
get But I can. I could pull up. I could
pull up multiple videos of them doing the Harris during

(01:53:10):
the campaign. Okay, fine, let's take the campaign. Shut How
many times did they interrupt Trump at a rally in
the campaign?

Speaker 15 (01:53:21):
They're probably not at the rally, not not in the
immediate vicinity of the rally, I mean, but that's.

Speaker 1 (01:53:26):
How many times did they interrupt Harris at the rally?

Speaker 15 (01:53:32):
That but that's akin to the video we saw in
Tennessee of the MAGA guys setting up the stand.

Speaker 1 (01:53:40):
No no, no, no, no, no no no no. They
were protesting. No, they were protesting Harris because Harris was
in power again, So you're protesting Harris and Bible they
were in power, but you're not protesting Trump in vance
when they're in power. I it just it's utterly illogical

(01:54:03):
to me. It's an absolute waste of a protest to
yelling scream at somebody who ain't even in office. It's
a waste. It's a complete waste of time. All right, Andrew,
that's it around of time. I appreciate it. Thanks a lot. Folks.

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