TX Dems Back for Maps Fight; D.C. Agent Surge; Spike Lee Exclusive & Black Breast Cancer

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Speaker 1 (00:19):
Today's Monday, August eighteen, twenty twenty five, coming up a
rolling market, unfiltered streaming live with the Black Started Network.
Texas House Democrats return after a two week walkout.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
What do you think happened? Easy?

Speaker 1 (00:32):
Republicans passed the new maps that decimates black political power
in Texas. We'll talk to two Texas States African Americans
who were not there, Thank gut. Donald Trump wants to
keep rigging elections now. He says he wants to get
rid of voting machines and mail in balloty.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
What an absolute idiot.

Speaker 1 (00:52):
Over the weekend, I was in Indianapolis for the Lib
Golf tournament. I'll show you a couple of things that
happened there. Also Phil Lib Winn sect and we'll talk
about brisk answer and Spike Lee's new movie with Denzel
Washington is out in theaters.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
We'll show you what Spike had to say about that.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
It's time to bring the fuck. I'm rolling my unfilchi
on the Bay Side Network.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
He's got whatever the best, He's on it, whatever it is.
He's got the school, the fact, the fine, and Wena
believes he's right on top and is rolling best believe
he's going putting it down from his Boston news to
politics with entertainment just book kicks.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
He's rolling, it's ro.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
It's rolling montage.

Speaker 4 (01:42):
Yeah, rolling with ing.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
He's poky stressed, she's real.

Speaker 5 (01:51):
Good question, No, he's rolling Montee.

Speaker 1 (02:11):
Well, folks, I tell y'all last week that in Texas
House Democrats came back to allow Republicans of a quorn
they will quickly pass new maps that decimates Democrats in
the state. In addition, they'll also be decimating black power.
Well what happened, Well, House Democrats came back and the

(02:31):
Republicans passed the map. Okay, so what actually got accomplished?
Now we know California is moving ahead to do what
they are going to be doing. But I may perfectly
clear that if you represent Texas, you should be fighting
on behalf of Texas residents.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
That's what you are elected to do. Now.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
A number of black lawmakers, not all, not all, and
trust me, I'm going to show the faces of those
who did show up today for the korm Black lawmakers
were not there. They made perfectly clear that they could
not in good conscience do that. You also had some
others as well. Trade Martinez Fisher of San Antonio, Sinner

(03:12):
Stickman from Illinois, saying that he could not in good
conscience do the exact same thing, because I mean, at
the end of the day, if you return, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
What was going to happen.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
And the issue that I had as Democrats, of course
Baker were selling wolf tickets. They basically were telling people, oh,
we were in.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I for a long haul, when.

Speaker 1 (03:31):
The long haul only asked it lasted two weeks. Joining
us right now State reps Icea Davis as well as
Jelanda Jones. Glad to have both of y'all here on
the show. Thank you so very much. I just you
know again that the thing that jumps out at me
when I listened Jelando and I listened to Texas House

(03:51):
Democrats say we're going back to fight, and I'm going,
what the hell are you fighting when they got the votes,
You're not fighting anything. You're fighting if you didn't give
them a quorum, because they have complete control of the House,

(04:12):
complete control of the Senate. Just like what the Senate
non democrats walked out too, stayed and they said, you know,
we're staying to fight. But if all eleven had walked
out they couldn't have passed.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
If all eleven walked.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
Out and they could not have passed the maps, it
makes no sense to me go right ahead.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
So no, I didn't show up, and I'm not going
to show up. There's a redistricting committee formal meeting at
five o'clock today, five o'clock Central time, which normally formal
meetings are rubber stamp meetings where you know how you're
going to vote. They literally have you all stand around
something and they call your name such and such, how

(04:54):
you vote on this, yes or no? And it's quick.
I mean, it's it's easy. So I suspect it going
to be like that. But the thing that's funny to me, Roland,
is exactly like you said, there is no fight. There
are eighty eight of them and sixty two of us,
and the only time we were winning the fight was

(05:14):
when we corn broke. So I can't and I'm so
discombobulated right now because I feel like I'm living in
an alternate universe. Let me be clear. The people that
came back, those of us that came back, who I
guess maybe thought that they were going to get some
brownie points for coming back, They locked them on the
house floor. Yimme locked the doors and you couldn't leave

(05:38):
until you signed a permission slip with a nice word
that said that they could surveil you twenty four to
seven to compel your attendance the next time they had
a meeting. So my colleagues who came back, they're calling
it a security detail. No, it's an unlawful detention, right,

(06:00):
all right, it's unconstitutional. And last I heard, I was
born in America, not on a plantation. And these are
modern day slave patrols.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
Yeah, it is the.

Speaker 6 (06:09):
Corect In fact, one person said, one of the law
enforcement people said he was working on narcotics this morning.
They called him in. You know, so they pulling people
off the streets, They pulling off police officers from doing
like real police stuff.

Speaker 2 (06:23):
Yeah, to watch us.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
To surveil us. And so I'm not coming back to
Texas till a poppo gone, because we know that the
history of white control oh black people is to sick
the police on us. So go ahead.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
So one of the black lawmakers who went back where
it represented Christian Manuel, We're going to go live.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
You mentioned that hearing.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Well, that hearing is taking place right now and there's
some questioning going on, y'all go in and play it.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
Again.

Speaker 7 (06:52):
That's the underlying bill you're not asking me about. I
told you at the top two six, seven, eight, nine, fourteen, seventy, eighteen,
twenty one, thirty six, and thirty eight are.

Speaker 5 (07:01):
The changes, Okay?

Speaker 7 (07:03):
Okay, Like I told Dan Thompson, if you'll go on
district Viewer and look at the original thirty it'll tell
you exactly where the line is.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
Okay.

Speaker 8 (07:13):
So as of right now, just key and I'm so sorry.
I probably you're fine, trying to be facetious. Can you
tell me those districts one more time?

Speaker 5 (07:19):
And I know it is going to no No, No No.

Speaker 7 (07:23):
Two six, seven, eight, nine, fourteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty two,
twenty nine, thirty six, thirty eight.

Speaker 8 (07:40):
Okay, I'm glad you said that. So I have two
questions because you answered my question. So there aren't any
changes to thirteen thirty three. It's only to these lists
from two, six, seven, eight, nine, fourteen, seventeen, eighteen, twenty two,
twenty nine, thirty six, and thirty eight to make sure. Okay,

(08:03):
So do you answer my question? So there aren't any
changes to those as it relates to CD nine and
CD twenty nine if and I completely understand if you
don't have the answer to it, because I know.

Speaker 9 (08:17):
Sometimes we just don't know.

Speaker 8 (08:20):
Are there any changes in the economic engines to CD
nine and CD twenty nine. And the reason I ask
is because those are traditionally districts that have had minority representation.

Speaker 9 (08:35):
And were minority.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
Coalition districts previous. So I'm wondering if there's been any
changes to those coalition districts as it relates to their
economic engines that have been used to help prop up
those communities in those districts.

Speaker 7 (08:52):
Okay, as a preference, we've already gone through the two
road two and pedaway. So as you're a member, there's
a different view on the legal involvement right of coalition.
Do I specifically know the answers? Know you can go
on district viewer, But being a coastal guy, now that

(09:14):
CD nine has Liberty County, I think that's a great
economic energy area, So I think you gained a whole bunch.

Speaker 8 (09:24):
Well, we're both coastal guys. I will agree on that.
What I will say is all the refinery and industry
that is traditionally in the areas are between mainly Jefferson, Galveston,
parts of Orange, but mainly Jefferson and Orange. I'm not

(09:47):
seeing what industry there is that.

Speaker 1 (09:49):
Is whatever he is my whole deal, Represent Davis, this
is a waste of time. We know exactly what the
probablys are going to do. That there's no amount of questioning,
there's no out of Oh, let me get clarity. They
made it clear. Donald Trump said get me five. They
gave him five. Ain't nothing changed. And so at the

(10:12):
end of the day, when y'all did not allow them aquorum.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
They couldn't pass the maps.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
And I go back to if the twos, if the
two Democratic state senators had walked their ass out with
the other nine, the Senate couldn't pass the map. So
what black people are saying is, damn can these Democrats
find some guts and fight to the end? Represented Davisian

(10:47):
He asked you, Yeah, oh, I can't hear him.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
You can't hear me.

Speaker 6 (10:52):
No, she can't hear you.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Okay, all right, y'all figure out why Roberson Davis cannot
hear me.

Speaker 6 (10:57):
I can tell you this, stough Roland. While you're figuring
that out, say.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Y'ah, So y'all, let me know figure out why she
can't hear me. Represent Jones, go.

Speaker 6 (11:04):
Ahead, So I don't know why Todd Hunter, the person
who filed the map, doesn't know what's going on. He
can answer no questions. Okay, they actually have changed the
demographics of nine, eighteen, thirty, thirty three, and twenty nine.
I'm literally looking at it myself. Why doesn't he know
his own maps? For example, a difference in CD eight

(11:29):
in the current in the proposed CD eighteen, if you'll recall,
the previous proposed CD eighteen that we killed had seventy
point seven percent of the current CD nine, If you'll recall,
they actually changed that and they lowered the number. So
now the current the proposed CD eighteen has sixty four
point five percent. They literally reallocated. They took out a

(11:55):
larger part of CD eighteen and put it in CD
twenty nine, which is currently Hispanic seat. So they did
change things.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Of course they did. Of course, you your favorite. They
represented Davis. Now we're gonna we're gonna disconnect her line.
Then we're gonna call her back.

Speaker 6 (12:13):
You're gonna disconnect your line and.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Call you back so we can get the audio straight
all right, get the let's go ahead and do that.
And then okay, so now let's disconnect and let's bring
up represented disconnect and bring up Representative Jones.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Guys.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
Disconnect who Okay, disconnect completely and reconnect folks. So let
me here, I'm gonna go to do this here, go
to the hearing, and then y'all fix this.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Go to the hearing, and then we'll fix this issue
with the audio. Go to my pad.

Speaker 9 (12:50):
Let's go thirty correct. No, I don't agree with you.

Speaker 7 (12:53):
The US Supreme Court, as we've already talked in many,
many hours, Rucio says the jurisdiction may engage in constitutional
political gerimantering, recognizing that politics and political considerations are inseparable
from districting and apportionment. It says that you can use
partisan interest, it can use political performance. It indicates that

(13:15):
this is absolutely a factor. This is a US Supreme
Court and we are able to use that. It's the
same premise that I provided in the prior presentation.

Speaker 8 (13:27):
Has the US Supreme Court ever put a precedent on
doing mid districting, mid decade redistricting.

Speaker 5 (13:34):
We've done it before.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
Well, no, I know we've done it before. But he
went to jail. So that's the reason I'm asking is
have we ever have they placed anything in there as I.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Don't agree with that.

Speaker 7 (13:44):
I think that's a remark that I would not agree
with to bring up somebody went to jail. I can
give you fourteen other reasons why maybe the other side
was wrong. I don't think we want to shoot at
each other in the hearing.

Speaker 5 (13:57):
No, no, no, no, I don't know, but you I don't agree
with it.

Speaker 7 (14:00):
Med there's nothing that prevents this congressional redistricting, and we
could do it again.

Speaker 8 (14:06):
I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is, I'm going
to go back to the previous last hearing is my
district was redistrict, mid district, mid decade redistricting in two
thousand and three, and because of that, Tom Delay was
sentenced to jail because there were things that he had

(14:27):
done during that and Tom Bay is probably gonna get me,
so I pre apologize.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
So you know, what I'm saying is that committee's substitute.

Speaker 8 (14:36):
No I'm asking is because you brought up the Supreme Court.
That's the only reason I promise. I'm not an attorney.
I think you all know that I'm just a former
Simple staffer who's been here for twenty one years in October,
and I was just wondering if been that long. I know,
I have nothing else to do important in my life.
Wondering if if since we were bringing up this, Supreme

(15:00):
Court is said that we can do this because of performance,
and totally understanding that, Chairman Hunter was wondering if the
Supreme Court had ever issued out a statement saying that
mid decade redistricting is something that is not an issue.
Because again, the only reason I'm saying that is because

(15:21):
the last person in Texas.

Speaker 9 (15:23):
Who did that did go to jail.

Speaker 8 (15:25):
Not saying you are anyone else. I'm saying the last
person who did that in Texas went to jail because
he was doing things on a federal level that.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Was found to be representatives found to be jail.

Speaker 7 (15:42):
Not the committee substitute you're going off. You know this
was all discussed August first. Yes, sir, this is August eighteenth.
We're on a committee substitute and we're not re arguing
those areas. If you have questions on this plan, I

(16:03):
will focus on Okay, I understand we will respectfully disagree
with each other, Mister Chairman let's focus.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
On the subject.

Speaker 8 (16:13):
Okay, I want to focus on the subject, and I'll
just see this focusing on a committee substitute. Has there
ever been a Supreme Court ruling that says the committee
substitute or redistricting?

Speaker 10 (16:27):
I think, representative, I feel you in the sense of
trying to tie the question to it. It really the
questions I think pending before the committee at this time
are just about the changes that have been made in
the committee substitute compared to the introduced and the explanations
for those, as opposed to the constitutionality of mid decade redistricting,

(16:49):
which I think doesn't touch the changes on the map.
So if you have a question about you know, particular change,
certainly fair game perfect.

Speaker 8 (16:57):
Okay, I do actually have one when it comes to
Congressional District thirty three, Chairman Hunter, would you mind again,
and I preapologize, Can you give me the breakdown and
the reasoning for thirty Congressional District thirty three changing from
where it was to why, like why we're moving it.

Speaker 10 (17:19):
Or changing it to where it's so on that one representative.

Speaker 11 (17:22):
So thirty three did not change or thirty changed, thirty
did not change either, So it was thirty six, thirty
six and thirty eight.

Speaker 8 (17:32):
Okay, so question of the chair then sure, and please
forgive my knowledge for asking this question. I thought that
when we changed any congressional district, even by one voter,
it changed every congressional district because we had to move people.

Speaker 2 (17:48):
Fair question. That's where I so in.

Speaker 10 (17:51):
What you'll see on your district you're in and in
front of you represented if you'll see there's a there's
a handout that has at the top and red plans.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
All right, so we should have the audio fixed, representatives,
can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (18:04):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (18:04):
I can.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Okay, it isn't this really exercise in futility. The Republicans
are gonna do what the hell they're gonna do. And
at the end of the day, had y'all held out,
had y'all not given them a quorum, this would not
be happening and they would not be able to pass
the maps. As I said before, we had we had
to get the audio fixed. You know, nine Senate Democrats

(18:27):
walked out to Latino Democrats stayed and they were like, well,
you know, uh, you know, we couldn't we couldn't hold
out forever. And so you know, we stayed to fight.
I was like, you lost nineteen two? What the hell
kind of fight is that?

Speaker 12 (18:49):
And we know the same thing that happened at the house.
We can, you know, go and say whatever we want to,
I guess him, we can. Yeah, but they're gonna pass it.
They're not gonna entertain any them. They're not going to
entertain anything we.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Have to say.

Speaker 12 (19:03):
They were given a tap and that was the past,
that would give more Republicans, that would take away black
voices and black bolts. Well, and that's what they're going
to do. And they're gonna do it as quick as
they possibly can, you know.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
And and that point, I mean, listen, it was very
contentious of the last several days. Work came out Thursday.
Of course, we we covered this extenly on our show.
Meetings were happening all weekend, and and and and and
now we know what the real deal is now now
we know, uh that there were Democrats who were afraid.

(19:39):
There were Democrats who all, hey, I'll only set out
one session. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do too
And what I don't understand. Several days work came out, guys,
what I don't understand, But I don't understand here. But
I don't understand and it makes no sense to me
represent the Jones. Why House Democrats somehow cannot realize that

(20:07):
y'all were actually winning the argument and.

Speaker 2 (20:10):
You have to build up momentum.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
And just because California announced what they were doing, it's
not like, oh, okay, California's.

Speaker 2 (20:18):
Gonna change their maps.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
So now let's go back because we've gotten other Democrats. No,
your job is to fight for Texas. Let Governor Gavin
Newsen do what he needs to do.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
So let me be clear, I thousand percent agree with you,
but California cannot just change their maps. California will not
find out until November fourth whether the people who live
in California vote to actually change the maps. There actually
was a poll that came out last week saying that

(20:50):
two thirds of California's like it just the way it is,
with no mid district, with no mid decade redistricting. So
that's not a done deal. But I thousand percent agree
with you that even if California is successful, and I
hope that they're successful, I hope Californians vote to redistrict
out every Republican that still doesn't change the fact that

(21:13):
we're gonna lose two black congressional seats when we used
to have four and Texas has the largest population of
black people in the United States of America. I mean,
and it's not even a fight, Roland like, it's just
like we both we both know third Ward. We went
to high school in third Ward. I'm from third Ward.

(21:34):
If it's if we're gonna have a fight down the street,
I might go down there as me and you. But
if I know it's like tim o'd people down there,
Am I gonna be stupid enough to go by myself?

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Hell now?

Speaker 6 (21:46):
And these people ain't even high behind the bushes, they
literally like here and you better show up. And it
just defies logic to me that people are happy with winning,
messaging wards and getting people to talk about stuff. The
only reason that people were talking about us is because
we were winning. The only reason people were inspired by

(22:06):
us is because we stood up to the bullies. We
were playing chess. They were playing Tic tac toe, not
even checkers, and we literally stopped them. We were gangster.
And now they're going back and they've been under house
arrests for lack of a better word, grown non criminal
elected people, and everybody's trying to figure out, well, why

(22:28):
how we having a redistricting committee meeting at five o'clock?
How did that happen? The second we gave them a
korm they can do whatever they want to do to us,
and they can roll over us. And that's exactly what
they're doing. And if it wasn't so serious, it would
be funny. I would think it's a big fat joke.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
I mean, first of all, let's go back to here,
give me thirty seconds. Go back.

Speaker 8 (22:50):
Historically underrepresented now in this moment that has had a
very serious need and has been vacant by the time
someone would take the seat over a year. Would we
take that into serious consideration to understand the economic poverty

(23:12):
that people who live in eighteen, particularly black and brown
people who live in those districts, have historically had to
deal with since before the voting rights and after have
gone into effect.

Speaker 7 (23:25):
As I have answered, you'll have to go to the
district viewer, look at the exact lines to see were
exactly Davis.

Speaker 2 (23:36):
They're like, man, look we're going to change the lines period.
What people listen represent Davis.

Speaker 1 (23:46):
People were giving money, people were saying, yo, man, let's mobilize, organize.
My greatest fear here, My greatest fear here is that
is that this action here stunts all of that. And
my greatest fear also that you're going to a black
voters say, man, listen, If y'all can't fight hell, why

(24:07):
should I fight?

Speaker 12 (24:11):
You know, black hoters have been Black voters have been
holding up the Democratic Party for a while.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
Now.

Speaker 5 (24:16):
You have black women voting ninety plus percent.

Speaker 12 (24:20):
And nearly every racist Democrats, But when it comes to
black matters, a lot of times that's not at the
forefront of discussions. I have colleagues who are comfortable saying black,
are comfortable talking about how racist the maps are, so
they'll just say Republican, Republican, Republican. I have some colleagues
who said, oh, you know what, I was going to

(24:40):
be out for one special session. I never guaranteed you
anything more than that. I didn't say I was just
going to leave one session and then come back regardless.
I said I was going to deny quarrel so I
can fight this map, and that's why I did not
go back.

Speaker 13 (24:55):
So, you know, until we start to really start to value.

Speaker 12 (24:59):
Black people and not just our vote, not just knowing
that we're gonna come and vote democratic. I mean actually
valuing black people and black communities. That's gonna be something
that Democrats are always going down to struggle with.

Speaker 1 (25:14):
Absolutely. So okay, so all right, so we go ahead,
final comment, Go ahead.

Speaker 6 (25:21):
Let me let me show you something.

Speaker 9 (25:23):
All you gotta do.

Speaker 6 (25:24):
This is actually the latest, man, can you see it?
It's on my phone?

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Got it right?

Speaker 6 (25:28):
So my point is it's easy for us to figure
out how they how they chop their lines. It's easy
for us. And I think what Aisha and I are
saying is that we just wanted to know what the
deal was before we corn broke. Su I don't know
if if you'll agree with me or not, but I
initially didn't realize that we had enough people to corn
break because when I was talking to people individually, there

(25:51):
was a lot of hesitation. So I was surprised when
we corn broke. I was always down for it, but
so I was thankful I didn't realize. And what I
wish I would have been told before I made this
decision was that some people only agreed to corn break
for not even two weeks. Let's be clear, Roland today

(26:12):
was gonna be two weeks that we were gone today.
So we didn't even make it two weeks. You keep
saying two weeks. No, it's a day off, and I
would have liked to have known that. And so if
I'm a part of the team, you need to tell
the whole team everything so the team members can make
an educated decision, because I don't like having to explain
to people while we're leaving after less than two weeks.

(26:35):
And I have colleagues saying that was all the ways
the agreement. No, they didn't tell us that. They didn't
tell me that because I could have won a message
you at home. I didn't have to come here. I
could have stayed locked in my house, or I could
have gone somewhere else. And so I feel bad for
the American people because I understand how they feel because
it's just like I'm them. I literally did not know

(26:59):
all the information and I was never going back. I
never just agreed to stay gone for one session, and
I never agreed to go and to a fixed fight.

Speaker 5 (27:09):
Where we were gonna lose.

Speaker 6 (27:11):
So this when these bad maps passed and the legal
president is not established, that they ain't got nothing to
do with me because the only way we guarantee to
win was to stay gone, and they weren't even asking us.
We wouldn't have even had to stay gone as long
as they did in the Montgomery bus boycott. So and

(27:32):
then they tried to get us all to come back
to give everybody cover. I'm not coming back like Thisstally,
there are some of us saying there's no flowback. So
I don't know who their constituents are, but they're definitely
not my constituents, because my constituents are literally blasting everybody
that came back, right, and they are so thankful that
I stayed gone, and I used to stay gone. And

(27:53):
this is what's funny. I ain't told nobody where I
am because I don't know who's gonna go tell them
where I am. So nobody knows where I am because
I just don't know who's bought and paid for and
I don't know who's steven on Django and chain. So
I'm just not gonna I can't do it.

Speaker 1 (28:11):
I understand, Well, we'll appreciate that both of you saying
hell to the naw. Now, we ain't doing that because
and I was clear, every Black Caucus member should have
said nah, y'all want to do this here, y'all go
right ahead, but we not. We are not going to
knowingly and willingly attend our own lynching. And what we

(28:33):
are seeing with this map, what we're what Republicans are doing,
is a political lynching of black political interest, pure and simple.
For present, David represent Jones, I appreciate it, thanks a lot.
Thank you bring in my panel. Scott Boulden, attorney here
in d C. I mean, I mean congo to being

(28:53):
senior professor, professoral Elections school, be in National service. American
University had to have both of y'all here. Uh, and
we're gonna be Britain's board. G is gonna be joining
us uh as well.

Speaker 14 (29:03):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (29:03):
Scott literally like, why why will I go to my
own execution uh and and and accept your invitation uh
and sit down and say.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
How you doing? I'm here to shoot shoot me, shoot me, uh,
shoot the poison in my veins?

Speaker 1 (29:26):
Lynch me go right ahead, I'm here, matter of fact,
let me put the rope around my neck.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
Y'all go hit it, lynch me.

Speaker 15 (29:33):
Well, Roland, I don't disagree with you, but you know
I'm gonna get loyally on you Now, if they don't
have the numbers and they sat out one session.

Speaker 2 (29:43):
What's what's a win looked like?

Speaker 9 (29:45):
And what's the pathway to winning? That's where I get
lost on.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
This because.

Speaker 15 (29:52):
Okay, tell tell me about that, because from the messaging,
that's what's really missy. They could do this for a year,
two years, But if you don't have the numbers, you
don't have the numbers, So what is winning a winning fight?

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Look, okay, let me walk you through.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
So one of the state reps he said this here,
he said, fifty one House Dems could resign. He said,
what that means is the governor literally could not call
the governor couldn't he cannot appoint fifty one replacements. There
would have to be fifty one special elections, and you

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have laws in terms of when those elections would have
to be, how long they would have to be, he said,
So that was an option, he said, we haven't fully
explored that.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
That's one two.

Speaker 1 (30:44):
In talking with them, there were some of the lawyers
were saying, well, you know, they could have pushed this
thing to May because the legislature could always change the
date to qualify for election. Here's what we know now,
Grant let's be let's be real clear, court could do
whatever they want to do, but the Supreme Court has

(31:04):
a certain precedent and I guess it's is it personal?

Speaker 2 (31:07):
Is that what it is?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
And so typically what happened, Okay, So the Supreme Court
has a standard that they use where they sort.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Of lock maps in place. So what they often say
is that.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
If even if a map has been ruled unconstitutional by
federal judge, they said in the past, it's happened at
Alabama and Louisiana, that hey, voters have to have enough
time to be able to choose their candidates. Candidates have
to be able to hit the filing deadline to run.
So therefore we will lock the maps in place because

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there's not enough time.

Speaker 2 (31:44):
So let's take Louisiana a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
A couple of years ago, Louisiana passed their maps and
it was like February, they passed the maps. Well, the
Louisiana caught Louisiana primary whatn't even till August?

Speaker 2 (31:59):
Supreme correct, No, God, lock them in place. So there
are people like me. There are people like me, and
there are.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Other lawyers who said, so the filing deadline The deadline
to file to run for the congressional seats in twenty
six is December. So there are many others who said, hey,
if you hold out until December, not May, until December,
then all of a sudden that Supreme Court pressure.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
That comes into play.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
And then the Supreme Court, based upon previous rulings, would say, hey,
wait a minute, Texas, you can't come in and change
a map in January February because the primary is in
March and the generals in November, even though Texas could
always move the primary. So those are a couple of

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the options there. The problem is you got weak ass democrats.

Speaker 2 (32:51):
No, we can't hold. No, we can't hold.

Speaker 15 (32:56):
But why not come back if you're gonna this is
the problem that you haven't talked about. Why not come back,
give them the quorum, let them vote, and then litigate
the appropriateness.

Speaker 2 (33:09):
No no, no, no, you can do that, the ability
to do it. Hold on. Helo heldo, hold you can
no no, And that is what their strategy is. Here's
the problem with here's the problem with that.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Right now, the twenty twenty one map, the existing map
is being litigated right now.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
It is twenty twenty five so the problem is, so
here's so I want you five and probably here.

Speaker 1 (33:33):
So the problem is the problem is the problem is
if that if you go for that legal strategy, they
likely will have the proposed maps that get rid of
five democratic districts that to those five two are black districts.
Those will likely be the maps for twenty six and

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twenty eight.

Speaker 6 (33:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (33:59):
But if you ask for emergency relief or equaitor relief
at a tro or injunctive relief that stays everything, Scott
gives you the status quote.

Speaker 1 (34:08):
And here's what happens. Appeal, stay, the stay the injunction. Okay,
we've been through this. We've been through this in Alabama.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I got you. We've been through this in Louisiana.

Speaker 1 (34:18):
And if back in fact, the courts when Louisiana passed
their maps, the Court's ruled, the courts ruled, oh, this
is unconstitutional, this is denying black people an opportunity. And
the Republicans appealed, and then another court agreed. That got
somebody else to greet ben his what's so crazy? In Louisiana,

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it went to the Supreme Court of a Congo. The
Supreme Court agreed it was unconstitutional, send it back, the
Fifth Circuit tried to tried to circumvent it. Then the
Republicans try to get it back to the Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (35:00):
The Supreme Court wouldn't hear it. The map stayed in place.

Speaker 1 (35:03):
Cleo Fields was elected in twenty twenty four. Now the
same Republicans are going back to the Supreme Court and
now the Supreme but now they use another legal argument.

Speaker 2 (35:17):
And now the Supreme Court has asked for no pleadings.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
They've asked for documents whatever y'all want to call it,
briefings explaining why coalition districts could be unconstitutional. So now
you have the civil rights groups who are like, oh shit,
they could literally rule coalition districts unconstitutional. That could wipe

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out half of the sixty congression of Black Caucus members.
Omen Congo Republicans, they're going to try to have nineteen
bites at the apple. So the only way, the only
guaranteed way to ensure these maps do not get passed
if you don't give them a quorm.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (36:10):
I mean, this is another example of how relentless Republicans are.
They are NonStop, whether we're talking abortioning, whether anything, they
are NonStop, and they are going to pursue every.

Speaker 5 (36:20):
Legal and illegal means possible to keep power.

Speaker 16 (36:24):
Democrats who want to talk about sharing and voting and everything,
these guys only care about power. And you know there's
that meeting going on at the White House or trumping
all these leaders. The only other people who are happy
this is happening are these Texas Democrats because they are
not the center of the news story today.

Speaker 5 (36:40):
And Jean who they put out this letter talking about
they did this and.

Speaker 16 (36:44):
Acting like they were like freaking Nelson Mandela or something,
you know, returning home after such a long incarceration or
something they gave in two weeks, like representative of Gelona
Jones who was saying she.

Speaker 5 (36:55):
Wished that she knew. I wish that we knew, you know,
the way that we were.

Speaker 16 (36:58):
Cheering them on and saying, you know, this is finally
Democrats standing up and all of this, and they're like,
now we just can We were just trying to get
everybody else's attention. We were just trying to get Gap
and neew some and others to ACKed up. This is cowardly, man,
and I know for many of us it's deflating. It's deflating,
like we were really looking forward to this to supporting them,
sponsoring them, donating and the like, and they just do this,

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And as Repiezander Jones said, it's not even exactly two weeks.
I don't know where Texas is going right now. But
the fact, well we know where it's going. But where
the rest of the Democratic Party is going as it
relates to this, I don't know, man, Because when you say, like,
black folks in Texas are like, well, why should that
we even you know, fight or vote or anything. I
think a lot of us are saying that across the

(37:41):
country right now. And maybe Gavenu someom will prevail in November,
maybe somebody these other states will. But this is a
serious setback, not only for the Democratic Party but for
the for the country.

Speaker 5 (37:52):
Man.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
So check this out, Scott's check this out. This literally
just came down early today. Go to my iPad.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Federal Appeals Court blocks Louisiana's a new congressional map and
blow the GOP.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Now this is on Fox News.

Speaker 1 (38:09):
Judge said Louisiana's congressional districting map a mouse to an
illegal racial gerrymander. Okay, now now mind you, mind you
we han't already come with this Territory.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
Scott.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Judges for the Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals rejected Louisiana's
request to allow it to enforce its long stall congressional
redistricting map, delivering a near term blow to Republicans in
the state by ruling that it a mouse to an
unconstitutional racial jerrymander. All three judges on the bench voted
to uphold a lower court's ruling at the map in question,

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originally passed by Louisiana's Republican majority legislature in twenty twenty two,
violates Section two of the Voting Rights Act of nineteen
sixty five. They also affirmed the district the District Court's
ruler that the mapping question violates Section two of the
Voting Rights Act by packing black voters into a small
number of majority black districts and cracking other black communities

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across multiple districts, thereby depriving them of the opportunity to
form effective voting blocks. Now, Scott, what we're seeing right here,
What we're seeing right here, this is what I'm gonna
pull the boarder in the second force.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
Go ahead and give the pull ups as well. What
we're seeing right here is that this is the Fifth Circuit. Now,
let's be real clear.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
The Fifth Circuit is the most hardcore right wing circuit
in America.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
Scott.

Speaker 1 (39:34):
They were ruling on a twenty twenty two map, this
twenty twenty five. So you know what's going to happen.
The Republicans are going to appeel this to the Supreme Court.
So the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court may not rule
on this until twenty twenty six, or the Supreme Court
will say, hey, keep the curing map.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
See again, we're not to tech.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Well, I kept trying to explain to Texas, the course
could say hold on locked existing map in they may
not rule until twenty seven. Now fix twenty eight. So
that's why the Democrats the most guaranteed way not to.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
Have the map pass. If your ass don't show.

Speaker 9 (40:14):
Up, yeah, I got you rolling, But let me ask
you this now. Now you're not gonna like this argument,
But there are.

Speaker 15 (40:22):
Other duties and responsibilities these democratic legislators have serving their constituencies.

Speaker 2 (40:28):
You've got staff dealing with That's why you got staff. No,
I hear me out, hear me out.

Speaker 15 (40:33):
I know that's why you got staff, right, But you
gotta admit at least that that's pulling on the Democrat.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
No, that's bullshit. No, that's first of all. Hold hold on,
hold up, let me be his other business. Hold up,
hold up, let me be a real fluence.

Speaker 9 (40:49):
You have to holding your response. No, Nope, you're not
staying with no position.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
Nope, you're not How you say to them, Nope, you're
not easy when that is easy? What I say to
those what do you say to that easy? What I
say those people? And y'all don't want me to cuss.
I'm trying not to cuss. So I'm gonna give y'all five.
I'm gonna give y'all. I'm gonna give y'all ten seconds.
I'm gonna give y'all ten seconds to turn your TV down.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
Nine seven, six, We go in.

Speaker 9 (41:16):
We five. We see when you need to read.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
FCC doesn't regulate internet. They only regulate licenses broadcasting. So
you know the FCC.

Speaker 1 (41:25):
FCC does not regulate cable TV or Internet. They only
regulate broadcast licenses.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Three to one. Fuck they heartstrings.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Oh, let me be real clear, let me be perfect
perfectod No, Well, guess what the Republicans should have put
the flood victims first on the Republicans have told us
the board what their what their priorities are, their priorities,
and the Republicans said, we won't give a damn of behung.
Three people died them floods, that ship ain't important. We're

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gonna do these maps first. That's what's about. And this
is why you have to start. So, boy, when you
were in a battle, you when you were in a fight,
you empty your clip.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
What you don't do is fire two of your twenty four.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
Bullets and then say all right, I'm gonna hand you
the gun. Let's go ahead, we'll go back.

Speaker 13 (42:22):
You don't do that at all. It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 17 (42:26):
This has been what we do in Texas though we're
not taking on the power that we have as democrats.

Speaker 13 (42:32):
We're running from of it.

Speaker 17 (42:33):
We're being cowardly and we're not standing in our power.
As at the end of the day, when there was
Hurricane Harvey and all these other situations where black individuals
were impacted by natural disasters, they didn't make them a priority.
And they showed it again now they never made those

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natural disasters abroad.

Speaker 13 (42:56):
So I think it's really important that we focus on
what can we do now?

Speaker 17 (43:00):
You know clearly our democratic representatives are scary and are
not going to do what they need to do protect this.

Speaker 13 (43:07):
So we have to show us keep applying pressure, make
sure the thieves maps are not impacting anymore than they
already have to.

Speaker 17 (43:17):
I think it's no way for us to get around
the decisions that they continue to make, to not hold
the response the Republican Party responsible for the actions that
they keep having.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
So in this same piece right here, I want you
all to see, hold on a second, this is what
this is what it says right here. The ruling from
the Fifth Circuit, which is a reputation as one of
the more conservative appeals courts, is a victory in the
near term for the ACLU and other plaintiffs who sue
to block the state's map from taking force. Still, any

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relief for plaintiffs from the appeals court ruling is likely
to be short lived. The Supreme Court in March heard
oral arguments in Louisiana Versus Callous, which also centers on
the legality of Louisiana's registricting map and whether race should
be considered a factor in drawing new congressional districts. Oral

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arguments then focused heavily on whether Louisiana's registriting efforts were
narrowly tailor enough to meet constitutional requirements, and whether race
was used in a way that violated the law, as
the Appells alleged. The Supreme Court in June said it
would hear additional arguments in the case in the fall term,

(44:37):
citing the need for more information before it could issue
a ruling. Earlier this month, justices ordered both parties to
file supplemental briefs by mid September outlining in further detail
arguments for and against Louisiana's proposed map and whether the
intentional creation of a I love this onm the Congo

(45:01):
and Scott I can't wait to get your legal whether
the intentional creation of a second majority black congressional district
quote violates the fourteenth or fifteenth Amendments to the US
Constitution unquote. So oh, my Congo, the white Republicans in
Louisiana are trying to use the Reconstruction Amendments that were

(45:29):
four black people now against black people for white people.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (45:41):
Yeah, and they've been doing this, that's how far forever
right they are twisting.

Speaker 5 (45:46):
Everything that we fought for.

Speaker 16 (45:47):
Whether we're talking about the civil rights acts like they're
using the basis of everything we fought for again, they're
throwing it in our faces. And this is one of
the reasons why Trump has been targeting all of these
law firms so people are to be around to stand
up and have our backs. I mean, there are many
that have been fighting with some of these big ones
that have caved and they're like, this is so outrageous, but.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
It's in their playbook. They will take everything possible.

Speaker 16 (46:11):
And the fact of the matter is when you think
about how people are abandoning Texas Black Democrats and you
talk about, you know, this situation now with Louisiana and
other parts across the country, they do not care. They
will take language that we created, critical race theory or
slang terms like well, throw it all back in our face.
They will take constitutional amendments that we fought for that

(46:31):
help give so many other people access to the American
dream throughout time, where we can talk about they will
throw it all back in our faces and say, now
we're gonna use it to protect that, to protect themselves.

Speaker 5 (46:42):
This is absolutely ridiculous and it should.

Speaker 16 (46:44):
Enrage anybody who has not been active already or who's
been sitting there behind at home and not getting in
the game right now, because this is absolutely atrocious.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
So what they're game now, Scott, is, oh, we're gonna
use the Civil Rights.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Act against black people because oh, this is hurting us
white people. So in Louisiana, they have literally discriminated against
black people.

Speaker 2 (47:13):
Matter of fact, hold on, I was just showing, y'all,
I was just showing, y'all. Now that was a court ruling.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
Hold on, hold on, hold up, y'all. Scott, you're gonna
get a kick out this one. Federal court rules against Louisia.
Y'all gonna laugh at this one. Hold On, here comes
okay aloud, that's federal. Uh, this was okay, So Scott,

(47:44):
you're gonna love this one.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
The same fit circuit last week. Come I pad the
same fit circuit.

Speaker 1 (47:55):
Scot last week said that Louisiana's date maps discriminates against
black people. So here you got white Republicans in Louisiana
discriminating against black people, diluting black power with state maps,

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congressional maps, and not the same white folks.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Oh, the fourteenth and the fifteenth Amendment is hurting us
white people because these maps should not be used when
it comes to race. But oh, were the ones who
drew the maps.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
And if we had actually drawn fat maps, black people
would have been able to have a district.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
So now, Supreme Court, we think y'all should get rid
of us coming oh.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
All districts where U factor and race, and that could
wipe out literally have of the entire our congressional Black caucus.

Speaker 2 (49:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (49:03):
You know.

Speaker 15 (49:04):
The other strategy that we're not talking about is there
are multiple cases pending in that Fifth Circuit. I've appeared
before the Fifth Circuit judges. Judge Prior Chief Judge Prior,
at least he used to be the Chief Judge is
a arch conservative, and there's several cases.

Speaker 9 (49:19):
You see, you pulled two or three.

Speaker 15 (49:21):
But the strategy is to file several cases with different
parties in order to get several rulings, and even if
they're inconsistent, then they wind up at the Supreme Court.
The other thing is this the Fifth Circuit as conservative
as this, These white folks in Louisiana, they're drawn maps,

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and in Texas and Mississippi and Georgia they're drawn maps
so blatantly racist and jerry mandered that even the conservative court,
even as conservative court said, y'all can't eat all that. Now,
come on, you still got to have a legal pathway

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or a factual pathway to make me make this work
for y'all.

Speaker 9 (50:05):
This ain't even fair to me.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
I mean, like like they like they're so racist. They
are so racist.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
Even the judges likes for the own racist right, That's
what I'm saying. And and because here's the fundamental problem here,
and this is the problems of board that the Republicans
can't get around. They are hell bent on stopping Democrats
so they can hold power. And their problem is they

(50:34):
hating on black people because they like, well, damn y'all
keep voting Democrat.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
And it's because you some bitches. Y'all ain't making no
effort to even talk to black people.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
So it's like they mad that black people voting Democrat.
And it's like, well, y'all ain't doing nothing, so your
deal is so so we're gonna penalize Democrats by penalized
black people because black people. Y'all problem is y'all vote
too much for them, damn Democrats. If only y'all didn't

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vote for them. And my man Gary Chambers is watching
the show, and this is what he sent me. Appellants
argue doctor Alfred credibly determined that voting in Louisiana is
mainly polarized based on politics, not race.

Speaker 2 (51:25):
They offered no rebuttal.

Speaker 1 (51:27):
However, I don't know who doctor alf doctor King is,
so Gary, Gary, you could tell me who these people are.
And again Gary has sent me like three different documents.

Speaker 2 (51:35):
And this shit is y'all.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
This stuff is hilarious reading this sort of stuff here,
This is what it says. Appellants wait, wait, wait, no, no,
wait wait, they offer no rebuttal. However, to doctor King's
data would show that white Democrats in Louisiana prefer guys
go to my iPad.

Speaker 2 (51:57):
Come on, please, thank you Jesus. I shouldn't have to
tell y'all. I'm reading it, dog DoD, just go to it.

Speaker 1 (52:06):
Come on in Louisiana, White Democrats in Louisiana preferred white
candidates over black candidates, and that the same was true
for black Democrats, who preferred black candidates over white candidates, notably,
even when doctor King controlled for party affiliation. I E

(52:29):
analyzed data for the twenty twenty two Democratic Senate primary,
where all voters were Democrats. White voters voted for the
white candidate sixty percent of a time, while only twenty
six percent of black voters voted for that same white candidate. Contrastingly,
in that same primary, nearly seventy four percent of black

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voters voted for the black candidate, while only forty percent
of white voters voted for the black candidate. Doctor King
explained that these ratios, showing more than a two to
one difference, were evidence of racially polarized voting. Similarly, doctor
Hanley analyzed this same data is stated that in every area,

(53:14):
in all instances, white voters gave more support to the
white Democrats than the Black Democrats. Conversely, at least in
the larger set, black voters gave more support to Black
Democrats than white Democrats. The data and expert testimony refuted
doctor Alfred's assertion that there is no evidence of racially

(53:39):
polarized voting because it is politically based. Even controlling for
political party affiliation, that was strong evidence of racially polarized
voting in Louisiana, which Gingles found to be particularly weighted
weighty in the overall totality of a circumstances inquiry, Given
that we afford great deference to credibility findings, and that

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the District Court's decision to credit doctor Hanley's and doctor
King's analysis over up to alfords is well supported. We
conclude that the District Court did not clearly err in
finding that the factor ways in favor of plaintiffs.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
What's crazy reading this is what they're saying Zabori.

Speaker 1 (54:22):
I'm come back to scott and finally coming from from
om the Congo.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
What we got right here.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
What they say in zabor is even the white folks
in Louisiana are racist, and the black folks in Louisiana
don't trust.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
Them white folks. So the black folks gonna vote for
black people.

Speaker 1 (54:39):
So for any anybody in Louisiana to say, no, we
ain't got no race issue in the state, you'll lost
show damn mind.

Speaker 17 (54:52):
But that's why they want to take research and studies
and all of the funding that goes to make sure
that we have this information so we can prove these
points without the data and all of the tact that's
on DEI and researching and moving the flooding.

Speaker 13 (55:09):
This information is super important right now.

Speaker 17 (55:11):
We need to know the numbers and how we're voting
and we already know it, but we need the information
so we can continue to prove it, so we can
fight all of these things that they're doing in their
different silum. They try to keep the information away from
us so we don't have the information too fight.

Speaker 13 (55:29):
But it's very clear the.

Speaker 17 (55:31):
White people in Louisiana, Texas, Alabama.

Speaker 5 (55:35):
Oh, we're great for fuel.

Speaker 17 (55:38):
And population growth, but they don't want us to have
political power to be able to actually change things that
benefit black people in a way they can elevate our communities.

Speaker 2 (55:50):
I love this. Here's Scott again.

Speaker 1 (55:52):
I appreciate Gary Chambers watching the show and sending me
the documents.

Speaker 2 (55:55):
I love this here, Scott.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
It's just more broadly, the state's theory would impose a
limitless obligation on Congress to continually refresh its legislative record
for any statue inacted under the fourteenth or fifteenth Amendments,
including laws like the Family and Medical Lead Act, Title
II of the ADA, and the Fair Housing Act. The

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state identifies no limiting principle for this claim, and we
see none. The Reconstruction Amendments do not demand that Congress
rejustify its judgments on a rolling basis. Scott at the
end of the day, these white Republicans in Texas are like,
do we have to give these negroes something?

Speaker 2 (56:44):
Fast?

Speaker 1 (56:44):
Scott, in fact, fast, hold on, way, Scott hold on,
and Scott hold your thought. Reverend Doctor Frederick Doug La
Haynes the third is testifying in Texas go lives.

Speaker 18 (56:51):
Now between representation and those they represent, and their needs
are met.

Speaker 2 (57:00):
That history that had been so.

Speaker 18 (57:02):
Ugly was solved once we saw the need to not
crack and pack, but instead create opportunities for our communities
to elect representatives. And again, here's the beautiful thing about
this state and.

Speaker 2 (57:18):
About this nation.

Speaker 18 (57:20):
It's not even about color so much as it is
about your character and your competence. We love to misquote
King judged by the color of your skin, character, content
of character, not color of skin, to use it as
justification to do.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
What King was not talking about.

Speaker 18 (57:37):
And so again I get back to what you said,
there's an ugly history that has been overcome by ready
by redistricting that actually gave the voice back to the people.
And so for us to go against that right now
is a violation of a legacy of fighting for justice.

Speaker 6 (58:02):
And I can just imagine LBJ.

Speaker 9 (58:05):
I can just imagine.

Speaker 18 (58:07):
EBJ upset right now because of what we are doing
to a people who were saying, well, not only do
we want to suppress your vote, but we want to
ensure that your vote doesn't count when you do vote.

Speaker 10 (58:27):
Say that, represent of Piercy, you recognized question of panel.

Speaker 13 (58:32):
Thank you, chairman, Thank you all for being here. Good
to see you again. My question is for Congressman Alred.

Speaker 6 (58:40):
You know, I don't know if you were here earlier
when we talked about states like Illinois, New York, California
who've already done these types of maps.

Speaker 13 (58:48):
But you're not disputing that this.

Speaker 6 (58:51):
It's legal to.

Speaker 5 (58:52):
Draw political performance maps.

Speaker 7 (58:54):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
All right, We're going to go back to that. That's
that iggin ass Trump.

Speaker 9 (59:00):
She's in the state legislature.

Speaker 2 (59:02):
Yes she is.

Speaker 1 (59:02):
Yeah, that that yeah, the person, the person Katrina Katrina Pearson,
the person got committed the shot lifting. The Republicans put
her ass in the state legislature. Uh yeah, yeah, that's
that food right there. Uh So I can't listen to
nothing Indian ass has to say. So Scott, go ahead
and answer the question.

Speaker 15 (59:20):
I said, But the white conservative Republicans in Louisiana and
Texas are deeply committed to racism. The courts have told
them that you cannot part pack all black voters into
one district and pack them nowhere else but one or
two districts compared to the rest of the map, and

(59:41):
create ten white districts and pack.

Speaker 9 (59:43):
Them all into two.

Speaker 15 (59:45):
They've repeatedly been struck down, and yet they continue to
make manifestations or machinations or elements of the same resubmitted
trying to get the courts to approve it, even though
the courts have repeatedly said you simply cannot do that.
That's why, in their view and in their racism, in
their racist view, they believe, well, I'm giving them a

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district or two.

Speaker 9 (01:00:08):
I'm not wiping them completely off the mattle.

Speaker 15 (01:00:11):
If I if I was to spread it all around,
you say I'm disqualifying them. One, I'm disempowering them.

Speaker 9 (01:00:20):
So I give them, I pack them into one or two,
and now you.

Speaker 15 (01:00:23):
Say I'm disempowering them. But it's got to be a
balance to courts have said, and you can't do it.
You can do it politically, but you can't do it
intentionally based on race.

Speaker 1 (01:00:33):
But the problem is, but look, Scott, here's the problem
we face right now. Clarence Thomas has had a hard
on to completely.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
Get rid of the Voting Rights Act.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
And these and these right wingers, I mean again they
gut it Section four on my congo sex it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:53):
No, they gout it section four.

Speaker 1 (01:00:56):
Now Section two is hanging on five sex Section two
is hey, you on by a thread like I mean
congo for people who watch it, anything to understand. When
they ruled in favor of the Opportunity District in Alabama,
they rule by saying Alabama violated Section two the Voter
Rights Act. The Louisiana district was created section two. So

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what the only good news from this right wing Supreme
Court is that they have consistently praise the Lord get
allowed section two to still stand. But the right wing
they want to gut section two and again class Thomas.
He wants to rule the entire voting rights at unconstitutional

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and unnecessary.

Speaker 16 (01:01:42):
Absolutely, this is you know, John Roberts Court at his best.
I mean, they are incrementalists. And when people look at
the the potential falling of this democratic experiment, one of
the main people that have to think is John Roberts
I mean, ruling after ruling, he has worked to dismantle
this this country and dismantling the voting right back has
been a part of that, and Clarence Thomas is salivating

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at the opportunity.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
To do that.

Speaker 16 (01:02:04):
And so when people say things like, oh, it's not
that big a deal, We've always asked the question here,
if voting wasn't that important, why are they trying so
hard to stop us from doing it?

Speaker 5 (01:02:13):
And we see that they will stop at nothing.

Speaker 16 (01:02:15):
When of these democrats going to wake up, one of
these legislators going to wake up? When are people going
to have the ability to actually fight back? And you know,
I've said this multiple times. They talk about democracy dies
in darkness, it dies in the light of day, and
it's often given away by complacent people who don't know
enough and don't give a damn enough about what's going on.
These Republicans aren't aren't firing a single shot. They are

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taking over this country strategically by using laws that were
created for freedom to actually deny us of our own freedoms.
And as soon as people get hit to the game,
we might be able to do something, because if we
don't get this rectified between now and twenty twenty six,
it might be game overall in Martin, and I'm just
happy that you are calling attention to this every single day,
not even just when you're on the show, but in
your social media and everything, and more people need to.

Speaker 5 (01:02:59):
Be doing that.

Speaker 16 (01:03:00):
This is more important than the meeting going on with
Zelensky right now, as relates to the future of this
country and it needs our attention.

Speaker 1 (01:03:07):
So here's I need people to understand. This is I
pull this up and this is the AI overview on Google. Okay,
So I need people to understand what this says here there,
and again I need to really pay attention y'all because
this is the key. There is substantial evidence that Justice
Clares Thomas believes the Voting Rights Act is unconstitutional and
seeks to limit or eliminate its power. Justice Thomas has

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expressed a long standing view as the Voting Rights Act,
particularly Section two, is unconstitutional, arguing it has transitioned from
addressing discriminatory voting practices to regulating and rationing political power
among racial groups. He believes the vr AS section two,
which requires considering race to ensure fair districting, violates the

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Constitution's guarantee of equal protection in dissenting opinions, including a
notable one regarding Alabama's redistricting in two thousand and three,
twenty twenty three, again twenty twenty three. I need try
to understand. Okay, listen to me clearly. Okay, one second, guys, listen.

(01:04:17):
Because of the breaking news we got to read. I
don't want to have to do it, but I have
to rebook our health segment.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I don't want to.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
Do it, but because of this breaking news that's happened
literally while we are alive, I I got to go
back and forth to what's happening in Texas as well.
But let me go back to reading this, arguing that
it is transitioned from addressing discriminatory voting practices to regulating
and rationing political power among racial groups.

Speaker 2 (01:04:45):
He believes the VR.

Speaker 1 (01:04:46):
Section two, which requires considering race to ensure fair districting,
violates the Constitution's guarantee equal protection, that's fourteenth Amendment. In
dissenting opinions, including a notable one regarding Alabama's redistricting into
the twenty three justice, Thomas stated the Voting Rights Act
has no power to prevent racially discriminatory jerry mandering, and

(01:05:08):
that he believes it only regulates the ability to cast
a vote or.

Speaker 2 (01:05:14):
Get to the ballot box.

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Justice Thomas's views on the Voting Rights Act are shared
by other conservative justices, including Justice Justice is Samily Lito,
Neil Gorsic, and Amy Cony Barrett, who have advocated for
a race neutral approach to redistricting. In July twenty twenty five,
Justice Thomas, Alito, and Gorsic indicated a desire to weaken
the Voting Rights Act by voting to deny a request

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to pause a lower court ruling in a case involving
its enforcement. This is why this thing is scary, Zabor.
Then I'm gonna go to scotton on the Congo, because
what they're basically saying, Zabor, is, oh, we throw this out.

Speaker 2 (01:06:02):
There's no need for us.

Speaker 1 (01:06:03):
There's literally no legal precedent, no legal status, no legal
reason for us to review.

Speaker 2 (01:06:12):
So y'all can just draw whatever maps.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
The reason we have power today is because of the
Voting Rights Act, because they had to create these districts
because they were not they were disempowering black people.

Speaker 2 (01:06:28):
And so what the Republicans want to do is they
want to be able to draw. And I need.

Speaker 1 (01:06:34):
Everybody listening to me right now. What the Republicans want
to do in Texas and Louisiana and Mississippi, in Alabama, Florida, Georgia,
North Carolina, South Carolina, Arkansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Kansas, the nation.

(01:07:02):
They want to be able to create as many majority
white conservative Republican districts, and if they are allowed by
the Supreme Court, they will literally wipe out black elected
officials nationwide, school districts, city council, county commissioners.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
State reps, state Senate, US House.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
This Zabora is what Project twenty twenty five was all about,
what the Heritage Foundation was all about, and we were
trying to tell Black people when the Hillary was running,
y'all get over your feelings about that white woman, because

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they are trying to execute a strategy that will decimate
Black America.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
And I whatever what I've been saying.

Speaker 1 (01:08:05):
They want to defund Black America and completely and totally
destroy the political, the economic, the educational, the academic, the
social infrastructure of Black America.

Speaker 13 (01:08:26):
They have been doing this forever.

Speaker 17 (01:08:28):
This is nothing but Jim Crow two point ups they're
taking and trying to act like it's neutrue and act
like it makes it fair, but it doesn't do nothing.

Speaker 13 (01:08:38):
But destroy our communities, destroy.

Speaker 17 (01:08:41):
Our political power, take away everything that we've worked so
hard to have, and take away the ability for grassroots
organizations to challenge these things, for us to be at
as a community, and the ways.

Speaker 13 (01:08:56):
That we bought these things in the past. We're not
going to be able to do that because they're given all.

Speaker 17 (01:09:01):
Of that power to a political power that has shifted
from etlite having some of our representation to having none
of our representation. So it's really just disheartening overall at
the impact and the long term impact that this is
going to have, but we don't do anything to figure
out how to fight it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
And see Scott again, this is why keep trying and
tell our people stop watching these bullshit, stop doing the gossiping,
understand what's going on. Here's another one, this from the
Constitutional Center, and that is this happened in July twenty
twenty five.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
Okay it said right here.

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
Last week claims Thomas targeted a major tool for challenging
violations of our civil rights, and this time he got
vigorous pushback from his colleague, Justice Katanji Brown Jackson. The
tool is known as Section nineteen eighty three of Title
forty two of the US Code. It originally was Section
one the Civil Rights Act of eighteen seventy one, better
known as the ku Klux Klan Act, one of the

(01:10:05):
most important civil rights laws in US history. The Act
was intended to protect black Americans from white supremacist violence
in the post Civil War South. Section nineteen eighty three
allows an individual to sue a state or local government
official who has violated his or her constitutional rights. A
violation could involve freedom of speech, freedom of religion, do process,

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and more. It's not enough to allege a violation of
the constitution of federal law. The claim must allege a
violation of clearly every established right KAY Section nineteen eighty
three claim was at the heart of the sixty three
decision and Medina versus Planned Parenthood of South Atlantic KAY
in Clarence Thomas. Justice Thomas uses thirteen page concurring opinion

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to focus on the court's jurisprudence on section nineteen eighty three,
which he wrote, bear's quote little resemblance to the statute
as originally understood unquote. Section nineteen eighty three, he argued,
originated as a narrow reconstruction era statute, but a now
exceeded its original limits. Now Scott with the federal lawyer
courts had case started in Arkansas, and Arkansas a lawsuit

(01:11:09):
was filed that said, when it comes to voting voting cases,
only federal, only the Department of Justice could file lawsuits.
So what they argue, and the appeals court agreed with
the Arkansas case Scott, and it's all the way to
the Supreme Court. They are arguing that the NAACP LDF,

(01:11:32):
the Lawyer's.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Committee for Civil Rights under Law, the a c l U,
Black voters matter.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
They are arguing that any group, any group, any legal group, anybody,
matter of fact. They are arguing that Scott Bolden does
not have the legal right to file a voting rights
lawsuit because you are not a member of the Department

(01:11:58):
of Justice. So they want to block the entire civil
rights legal infrastructure from being able to challenge voting rights
laws on the local, state and the national level.

Speaker 19 (01:12:15):
And DJ under this administration or any other white conservative administration,
ain't gonna file a damn thing that those cases you
serve or turn on its head.

Speaker 9 (01:12:26):
Organizational standing, right and individual standing.

Speaker 15 (01:12:30):
The core principles of how you file a lawsuit on
behalf of someone or organizational standing because of your interests
and your mission as an organization.

Speaker 9 (01:12:40):
And when that case gets to the.

Speaker 15 (01:12:43):
Supreme Court, Clarence Thomas is going to have a fair
amount of support. It'll be interesting to what Roberts says
about that and whether he believes that's too extreme or not,
because he'll have the three or four liberal judges on
his side, but he won't have a enough for a majority,
and he's.

Speaker 9 (01:13:01):
Got to pick off Kavanaugh, and he's got to pick
off perhaps Comi Bairrett.

Speaker 15 (01:13:06):
Although on this issue, these justices and white conservatives, all
of this emolates from a base that we are now
a colorblind society, that we are tired of making up
for the past wrongs of black and brown people, and
we've paid enough. Essentially, we paid enough, and as a result,
we White America is being discriminated against.

Speaker 9 (01:13:29):
Now these laws are working.

Speaker 15 (01:13:31):
Against us, which completely ignores the socioeconomic and health disparities
of black people in this country. And that the numerous
lawsuits that are still filed, workplace discrimination cases and what
have you. I don't know where they're getting their empirical
data from. That says we're a colorblind society now. And
discrimination and racism just no longer exists, because you've got

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to believe that, if you believe in the decisions that
are coming out of the Conservative Court, there's no day
for that whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:14:01):
Wiscott, You got to remember, you got to remember when
they gut it the v R A Shelby beholder John Roberts.

Speaker 2 (01:14:09):
His opinionsentially was it worked.

Speaker 1 (01:14:14):
Look at black turnout in two thousand and eight, the
percent he argued, the two heged, we don't need these
things because in two thousand and eight, the percentage of
black people who voted in the presidential election for the
first time in American history.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
Was higher than the percentage of white people.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
And we're like, yeah, dumbass, that happened because of the law,
And if you don't have the law, it's going.

Speaker 2 (01:14:39):
To go down. And what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:14:41):
They they ruled in favor of Shelby County, and Republican
state legislatures immediately moved to what change district lines, get
rid of voting locations.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
They immediately began.

Speaker 1 (01:14:55):
Ever since twenty and twelve, there has been nothing but
a hack hold on. There's been nothing but a systemic
attack on voting people of color, Black people and others
from the moment of decision came down and it's like, Roberts,
what the hell was your dumb ass digging.

Speaker 2 (01:15:14):
What?

Speaker 15 (01:15:14):
They used the same philosophy in the same theory in
the Harvard case where they eliminated race as a factor.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
Oh no, no, no, I got to age. But wait
for wait for wait. I love this one here, I
love this here the Asian plain. Matter of fact, y'all
gonna think I'm lying. S Gott finished your point.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
I'm about to show y'all if y'all want to see
what happens when your ass when Scott Scott, I'm about
to blow you up, well you goot to crack up, Okay,
because in that remember it was Asian folk who got
with the conservative white lawyers took down a firmanent action.
Hold up, hold up, y'all, y'all, Okay, I'm gonna tape
this here. Y'all think I'm lying, I'm not lying, okay,

(01:15:56):
say no, no, no, no on listen, listen.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57):
Asians want quote us at Harvard. Y'all think I'm lying?

Speaker 1 (01:16:04):
See, this is what happened when you're dumb ass soup,
When you're dumb ass Sue. So so what's happened. What's
happened is so they sat here and they sued, and
now now they're like, hey, what's.

Speaker 2 (01:16:23):
Going on now? This is what AI said.

Speaker 1 (01:16:25):
Ai said, No, Asian Americans are not seeking quotes at Harvard.
Some Asian American groups have, however, raised concerns and found losses.
Legend that Harvard's admission policies discriminated against Asian Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
So here's the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:16:37):
They actually these groups argue that the horrors consideration of
racing emissions, even if not explicitly using quoters, efectively limited
the number of back Asian Americans.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Here's what happened.

Speaker 1 (01:16:47):
They sued the Ivy leagues, they threw out firm, the faction,
and then the next year it was fewer Asians admitted
than before, and they were like, what the hell?

Speaker 2 (01:16:58):
And black people are like hashtag. We tried to tell
you them dumb asses. They thought.

Speaker 1 (01:17:08):
They thought, oh, we got rind of the firm. An
action at Hall read and yell, it's Columbia. Oh we
about oh we about to have we about to have
a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Of our kids in the school. And them white folk win,
know you not?

Speaker 1 (01:17:27):
And so and so and so I'm linking this on
my congo to what's happening in Texas. Don't listen the
Latinos in Texas and the Latinos in Texas.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
On my congo, who are sitting here going now you
know listening, it's four black districts.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
Now they're gonna lose two, but the Republicans say, the
Publicans said they're gonna create five districts.

Speaker 2 (01:17:49):
Oh, we're gonna pick up five districts. Okay, y'all go
ahead and f a F four you'll want to.

Speaker 1 (01:17:57):
Go ahead, But they do every We're going to be
hold on a second, Hold on, hold o congo din,
I go to use.

Speaker 2 (01:18:04):
The on the kongo, go ahead.

Speaker 16 (01:18:06):
That's exactly what's going to be happening, just like what's
happening with with this example of Asian students at Harvard.
People keep falling for this okie dooke of Oh, these
Republicans are going to take care of us. They're going
to take care of us. And the Republicans are great
at stacking groups against each other. I remember case back
in nineteen twenty seven in Mississippi, where you know, a
Chinese family tries to sue again, not for that all

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non white people can go to the school or white
people we're at, but so that they could be considered
white and go to that school. So like this lesson
of di vide and conquer, we never seem to learn it.
And Republicans know these this race mindset and consciousness better
than many other people do, and they know that they
we will fight each other to try to get any
little more so that we can to feel equal to them,

(01:18:48):
as opposed to building our own platforms and building our
own coalitions. That was what they did with Harvard and
these affirmative action cases. That's what they're doing in Texas
right now. And if people continue to fall for this,
I mean, it's the same thing that happened with the
whole issue with undocumented immigrants. Oh, they're just gonna come
for the Latino criminals. And now you've got Haitians up
in there, you got African Americans being pulled off the street.

(01:19:09):
When in like seven months, man, this is all happening.
When are we finally going to get it together that
they're coming for all of us and they're picking us
apart one by one because we have not been able
to show any type of unity and they are a
small They are not large in number, but they are
large in their mindset in terms of how to use
the laws against us, how to play the race wars

(01:19:29):
against us, how to play the culture wars against us.
And maybe this will be the time to wake up
Roland Martin, but I am not convinced in this moment.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
The board go ahead.

Speaker 13 (01:19:41):
This is impact and so many different groups.

Speaker 17 (01:19:44):
When it comes to disabled individuals, It's like you can
watch disabled individuals that are not disabled individuals of color
both in a direction that has directly impact that medicaid could,
so security could, opportunities, opportunities to give you the resources
you need, accommodations network. We took away sign language interpreteds

(01:20:08):
in the space. So you're watching section two of the
v R A impact not only black people, but you
are impacting your own interest as a disabled person that's
white or a disabled person that's Latino, voting on that sign,
not realizing all of the things of your life, from

(01:20:29):
your insurance to your daily life is being impact and
it's not gonna get better, it's only getting worse.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Listen.

Speaker 17 (01:20:36):
Then you take those organizations that can fight for you, listen,
not realizing that Hey.

Speaker 1 (01:20:45):
Hey Scott, I keep saying, these Asian Americans, these Latinos,
y'all ain't white. Now, y'all, y'all, y'all can y'all can
try to play this simulation game all they want to,
But white power is about white power. And whether whether

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whether today it's the yesterday it was a negro, whether
it's Latina.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Like all of them Latinos with water for truck.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Faffo five, like welcome to the border, and it's like
and it's like, y'all, I mean it's like again, like
y'all can sit all these other folk. Let's be real clear,
Black people, our sweat, blood and tears, pass these laws.

Speaker 2 (01:21:33):
I say this all the time. I said, if I said,
if you are a woman.

Speaker 1 (01:21:41):
And you are a doctor or a lawyer, or an engineer,
or if you were something, we go to professional.

Speaker 2 (01:21:51):
Schools, y'all need to thank black people.

Speaker 1 (01:21:55):
Because in nineteen seventy two, Title nine was passed taal
nine what about sports? Title nine was about opening the
professional schools to women because they were discriminating.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
What's title nine?

Speaker 1 (01:22:10):
Don't nobody ever asked, well, where title nine come from?

Speaker 2 (01:22:14):
Well? Shit, what's what's the first eight titles? TA nine
come from?

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
The nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act that was black people.
I say, if you Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Thai, whatever, and
you get to vote in your native language, y'all better
thank black people because it's nineteen sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:22:35):
Five Voter Rice Act. It's real clear. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
If all y'all can live where y'all want to live,
y'all might want to thank black people. That's a nineteen
six day Fairhousing Act. You gauge and you happy you
get to get married. M go on ahead and thank
black people because that's the fourteenth Amendment equal protection clause.

Speaker 2 (01:22:55):
That's one of the reconstruction amendments that was passed.

Speaker 1 (01:23:00):
Hell, have you disabled and you are thankful for them?
Ramps and other things that came from the nineteen ninety
six with American Disabilities Act, y'all better be thinking black
people because the American Disabilities Act comes directly from the
nineteen sixty four Civil Rights Act.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
So here's the truth. Whether folk want accept it or not.

Speaker 1 (01:23:24):
If you have some rights in this country that are
civil rights, thank black people because it is being black
people that has forced America. As doctor King said, be
true to what you're put on paper. So these rights
didn't just happen. Black people made these rights. If we

(01:23:51):
walk down the line scot of the numerous legal rulings
in so many areas, hell, it's white people walking around right.
First of all, all y'all broke ass white people. Y'all
should be thinking black people too, Okay, because y'all benefited
from Lbj's war on poverty. He didn't launch that in

(01:24:14):
the Mississippi Delta. He launched that in white appellation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:18):
I mean, so we can just go down the line.
We can go down the line of.

Speaker 1 (01:24:24):
Things that black people have fought for legislatively in America
that has benefited everybody. And so it's a matter of fact,
white people, let me be clear, whether you're a white Democrat,
a white Republican, a white conservative, or a white liberal.

(01:24:44):
America did not believe in democracy until black people. May
The reality is America did not fully and it still
ain't done it fully. But America did not I fully
embraced democracy until black people made them do it with

(01:25:06):
those three Civil Rights Acts in the nineteen sixties. And
so when y'all want to talk about founding Fathers, and
y'all want to talk about George Washington and Thomas Jefferson
and Benjamin.

Speaker 2 (01:25:19):
Franklin and John Quincy Adams. Y'all better have a second.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Group of founding fathers and mothers called Doctor King, Ralph Abernathy,
Andrew Young, CT, Vivian Diane Nash.

Speaker 2 (01:25:37):
We go on and on.

Speaker 1 (01:25:38):
We could sit and talk about Septain mcclark, Fanny lou Hamer,
Constace Baker Motley. It was black people that made America
be true to what they put on paper, because until
then they were not practicing what.

Speaker 2 (01:25:55):
Was on them.

Speaker 1 (01:25:56):
Damn on them goddamn documents.

Speaker 2 (01:25:58):
Scott, what's your question? You can you can speak on
that if you desire.

Speaker 15 (01:26:07):
You fired up the night boy god dare Roland giving
us a whole history lesson in like twenty minutes.

Speaker 9 (01:26:13):
I'm think they're taking notes for I mean, you know,
went through the whole process.

Speaker 14 (01:26:18):
I think the beauty of all of those laws is
that they were written broad enough to apply to white women,
to apply to disabilities, to apply to human rights, gay marriages,
and what have you won.

Speaker 9 (01:26:30):
And that's the brilliance of it.

Speaker 15 (01:26:32):
The downside of that is they've been written so broadly
that now that white America believes that we are in
this colorblind society. They're using the same principles to argue
that they're being discriminated against, or the reverse discrimination, if
you will, which completely bastardizes not only the legislative intent,
but the prior implementation of these laws to protect rights,

(01:26:54):
not to take rights away.

Speaker 9 (01:26:56):
So those are my best thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:26:58):
And that's because your present damn on my congo, because
what has happened is these white folks.

Speaker 2 (01:27:06):
And again I don't know what listen. Listen.

Speaker 1 (01:27:10):
I tried to tell people in two thousand and nine,
I'm waiting to go on seeing in with John Avlon
who's now in Congress, and me and John were talking.

Speaker 2 (01:27:20):
About his book Wean Ups. And this is what I said.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
I said, John, we are living in the beginning stages
of white minority resistance. And he looked at me and
he was like, huh, he said, Roland. White people are
majority of America. I said, I said, John, you don't understand.
I said, John, it's before. This is the basis of

(01:27:44):
my book White Fear. And all these media folks who
wouldn't book me on their networks because they want to
talk about it, it's playing out and the problem is.

Speaker 2 (01:27:54):
These white folks don't want to put white on it,
on the congo. They don't want to talk about for
what it is.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
But I say, I said, John, these white folks cannot
handle America becoming.

Speaker 2 (01:28:06):
A nation of people of color.

Speaker 1 (01:28:08):
I said, these white folks cannot handle sharing power. These
white folks cannot handle losing power. And when I saw
the white death rate, I think it was news. We
did a story that said the white death rate in
ten states had surpassed the white birthrate.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
I went, oh shit, this thing is started.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
And ever since I'm telling and that's why the great
replacement theory, that's why they want to get eleven million
Latinos out of this country. That's why they don't want
no black they don't want no Africans, no Bermudans, no Haitians,
they don't want they want white purity. Because what they
are trying to do, O my congo, And that's what

(01:28:53):
these districts are about. In Texas, sixty one percent of
Texas to day is black brown. It's minority thirty not
white people are the minority in Texas today, O, my congo,
here's the problem. And this is why I keep telling

(01:29:15):
all these simple simon dumbasses who keep saying otherwise, sixty
one percent of Texas is people of color. Get sixty
one percent of the people that vote in Texas are white? Right?

Speaker 16 (01:29:33):
Yeah, Let's also add what they're doing to a road
women's rights and to their own bodies, which makes it
harder for black and brown families, particularly to gain.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
No no, no, no, but see, I'm gonna put that
shit on them lazy ass white women, Okay, who voting
along with they white men.

Speaker 2 (01:29:50):
I ain't putting no, no, no, let me be real clear,
I ain't.

Speaker 1 (01:29:52):
Putting women's rights with our shit, because that ain't women's rights,
that's white women's rights. The bottom line is not I'm
being real specific here because the problem is is that
the white women in Texas have been sitting on they
ass or voting along with the white men. They white husbands,
they white brothers, they white sons, they white nephews, because

(01:30:16):
they also believe in patriarchy. And the bob line is listen.
Pete hegg Saith retweeted that clip of his white pastor,
and none of these old punk ass national media people
have challenged him on how did you retweet a video
of a white pastor who's his pastor?

Speaker 2 (01:30:35):
Who is on record as saying he don't want women
to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
And see, I need and the reason I ain't putting
black women in that shit because guess what, Susan B.
Anthony and the rest of them racist ass white women
in the suffrage movement, they didn't want black women voting.

Speaker 2 (01:30:51):
In fact, she said, I'd be damn if a.

Speaker 1 (01:30:54):
Black man gonna have the right to vote before a
woman has the right to vote. And that's why, what's
that Zibora, what's that poem black women love quoting?

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
Ain't I a woman?

Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Y'all better, y'all better go read on the backstore of
that poem, because the poem was written not not to men.
She wrote that poem to address the racist white women
who did not want to include black women in the
suffrage movement.

Speaker 2 (01:31:26):
That's just a little bit more history for the folk
who don't read. Oh mean, cong go go ahead, no, And.

Speaker 5 (01:31:32):
I get your point.

Speaker 16 (01:31:33):
And I'm saying what I brought up, the women's rights
and access and all that, it makes it harder.

Speaker 5 (01:31:37):
For black people to be able to reproduce.

Speaker 16 (01:31:40):
You know, we look at the mortality rate of pregnant
black women and they're like, that's where I was going
with it, but the fact that the matter is, when
it comes down to it, the thing that scared me
about the history lesson that you just said about the
Amendments and the Civil Rights Act, like we know that story.
But then I start thinking, Damn, these Republicans are so
shrewd in what they're doing, the way that they're attacking
the schools. How the kids going to get that history,

(01:32:03):
How the next generation going to get that history to
be able to arm themselves, to be able to fight,
you know, which is why this network is so important
because they are hitting us from every single angle because
if they if people don't know that story or to
constant Baker Martley's and the doctor Kings in their life
who are going to be their idols as relates to
fighting for justice, They're going to feel like they can't
do anything because, as Malcolm X said, if you were

(01:32:23):
convinced that you never did anything, you're gonna think you
can never do anything. So they have a multi pronged approach,
and we need a multi pronged strategy, and Democrats in
Texas let us down as part of that strategy. But
this is the fight that we have to keep fighting
and speaking up for because quite honestly, Roland, we don't
have a choice.

Speaker 5 (01:32:40):
Just like you said a.

Speaker 16 (01:32:41):
Few months ago, you just refuse to sell out your
ancestors period, bottom line. And if more of us start
that way, we'll be able to make some progress right now.
But too many people are just too complacent and they
think nothing's gonna come for them, and then before you
know what, you got three hundred thousand black women being
kicked out of the workforce. People think they're gonna come
for them, and all sudden they putting us in their
detention cent just as well, When are people going to

(01:33:03):
wake up if it's not now. I don't know what
it's gonna be, but I know that we have to
keep on fighting because better days will be ahead of flee.

Speaker 5 (01:33:10):
Don't quit.

Speaker 2 (01:33:10):
You know you got somebody chat what's hold on them?

Speaker 1 (01:33:14):
I responded to it, Denise spa too much cussing, going
to watch Jory Reid's show? Okay, bye, I mean, but
you can get mad the cussing. You can get mad
the cussing. Well, you can get mad at cussing all
you want to, but they screwing you over. You ain't
even realize what's going on. I mean, see the point
that all make congo just made. It's by design what

(01:33:38):
they're doing when it comes to the schools, because they freak.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
I keep trying to tell y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:33:43):
All of this stuff, y'all is started with Obama's election
in two thousand and nine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
Then it picked up with Trump running.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
Y'all, American history is American history. You cannot please by
all means. I dare any of y'all watch it to
refute what I'm about to say. You cannot show me
a single period in American history where white where black

(01:34:15):
success has never been followed by white backlash.

Speaker 2 (01:34:21):
You can't fight it. You cannot find it.

Speaker 1 (01:34:26):
At every point in American history, black success has been
immediately followed by white backlash. So why all of a
sudden the attacks in the last five years on schools
and books and everything, and shit, ain't it ain't got
nothing to do with no LGBT transd Dan and underwell

(01:34:51):
you know how to do it. The murder of George Floyd,
because when George, because the Black Lives Matter movements, it
was the first time in American history that a black focused,
black centered movement saw a majority of Americans approve and

(01:35:21):
these white concerns went, oh, hell no, So what did
they do that was a concerted, precision like attack on
black lives matter. They said, we cannot allow this movement

(01:35:41):
to become as powerful as we saw the Black freedom
movement in the nineteen sixties.

Speaker 2 (01:35:51):
And they targeted twenty twenty one in twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (01:35:56):
Two at racist Christopher Rufo and he put it on Twitter.
They said, we are going to put everything black in,
everything minority under critical race theory.

Speaker 2 (01:36:11):
I told y'all. I was the news director of morning
anchor at the Black Radio at Black Target Radio.

Speaker 1 (01:36:17):
Station in kk DA, managing air of the Houston Defender,
managing air of the Dallas Weekly, worked for the Dallas Examiner,
managing air of the general manager of the Chicago Defender.

Speaker 2 (01:36:28):
I wrote for Ebony.

Speaker 1 (01:36:30):
I was a contributing editor at Essence major broadcaster cable
network Black TV one Black Tom Joiners Black America Web
Tom Joiner Morning Show, Black Black Black Black Black, And
all of my years in black media, I had never
ever heard of critical race theory because that was a

(01:36:50):
legal theory that y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:36:53):
I ain't never heard of that. But the white folks
were like, Oh, we're gonna make that the boogeyman. What
do they do?

Speaker 1 (01:37:00):
They lumped everything under what happened twenty twenty three, All
white folks would show up the school board meeting, y'all
take the critic rights there superintending no, no, we're not
dangel no, but but guess what happened if fired white
folks up, they ran for school board. They ran in
the midterms, and then white folks took over school boards.
Minds for liberty, you know, they started doing firing black

(01:37:23):
superintendents in twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Twenty three, Who woke Woke? Whoa? Whoa?

Speaker 1 (01:37:28):
You got dumb asses like Bill Mahr complained about who
woke woke is going too far? They took woke like
they took defund the police, and they changed the focus
of it and tossed it right back and made it
a massive negative.

Speaker 2 (01:37:44):
Whoa.

Speaker 1 (01:37:45):
Then negroes are going, man, better not be woket be
wokeme like, dumb ass, don't you realize what you've been saying?

Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
And then in twenty twenty four it was DEI y'all.

Speaker 1 (01:37:55):
All of that emanates from the murder of George Floyd
because they said, m we saw what you negroes did.

Speaker 2 (01:38:03):
After m Matteo got lynched.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
That was thirteen years of nothing but protests and laws change.

Speaker 2 (01:38:12):
That was the second reconstruction.

Speaker 1 (01:38:15):
Then they said, we saw what you negroes did after
two hundred and forty three years of slavery, and y'all
had that reconstruction period over that twelve thirteen years really
lasted sixty seven years. We are not going to allow
a third reconstruction to last even five years.

Speaker 2 (01:38:34):
That is what happened. And zabora black folk again.

Speaker 1 (01:38:39):
I understand dancing, partying negroes are having the time of
their lives at Martha's Vineyard, but I'm telling you right now,
these white folks are coming after everything, everything, and they
do not want to leave anything to chain. And so

(01:39:01):
we better wake the hell up and recognize that we
had better be voting in massive numbers because they want
to control it all.

Speaker 13 (01:39:17):
For sure.

Speaker 17 (01:39:18):
That's why we have to get back to what our
roots are. We have to educate each other. We never
needed the books and all the things they benefited us,
but oral history has.

Speaker 13 (01:39:29):
Been a part of our culture forever. If you get
rid of or keep dilude the VRA.

Speaker 17 (01:39:36):
Section two, we're not going to be able to fight
these not only George Floyd, but Sandra Blind and all
of the other things that were happening allowed us to mobilize.
We got to get back to that, mobilizing each other
and understanding you're definitely right. They said black women are
the most educated. Now you see all of these black

(01:39:57):
women that are laid off.

Speaker 2 (01:40:00):
Boom, I say, girl, sustained.

Speaker 1 (01:40:06):
If this is a courtroom, the judges sustained, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (01:40:13):
I'm just saying we gotta fight back.

Speaker 17 (01:40:16):
We can't keep being cried about it, allowing the people
around us to say, oh, that's not important all we
can't do nothing about it.

Speaker 13 (01:40:25):
I'm from Texas, I'm from Houston.

Speaker 17 (01:40:27):
If sixty one percent of Texas is black people and
we're not able to drive people to in busses from
the church to the polls anymore, they've been attacking our faith.

Speaker 13 (01:40:39):
If it wasn't important, they wanted to take you. So
it's time for us to get out.

Speaker 5 (01:40:43):
There do something about well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:45):
Fact in fact, sixty one percent Textas minority not black
it Scott, Scott and Scott learn to go with the
damn bit y'all heard you listen, Listen, little petty ass saying, well,
an objection.

Speaker 2 (01:40:56):
Has to be made for the judges to say sustained.
Y'all heard you, little pity ass.

Speaker 1 (01:41:01):
I don't miss nothing, but so you go with the
damn bit when you make a point, you say sustained.

Speaker 2 (01:41:07):
But gone on here and make your damn comment.

Speaker 9 (01:41:11):
I respond to questions. You're just lucxuring us tonight.

Speaker 1 (01:41:14):
No I'm not. You know, Scott, No, no, Scott, no
know Scott No, all of us tonight, Scott, we don't
need a question. All of us tonight are trying to
actually teach people who are watching, okay, because the problem
is the problem is folks are acting like, ah man,
it's relating, no big thing. They don't understand. It's so fine.

Speaker 2 (01:41:36):
Since you need a question, damn, So I don't need
now should do?

Speaker 18 (01:41:40):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (01:41:40):
You do?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
You need a quote?

Speaker 1 (01:41:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Now you need a question. So here's the question said,
Since you begging for a question, Explain to people.

Speaker 1 (01:41:47):
Explain to people what happens when you codeify Jim Crow
two point zero and racism that's not dressed as that way.
Explain what happens when you codified it into law, how
difficult it is to overturn it.

Speaker 9 (01:42:09):
To decodify it.

Speaker 15 (01:42:10):
If you will there you go, and you get an
authoritarian democracy, which is essentially what we're living in.

Speaker 20 (01:42:17):
You you you codify racism, you devalue DEI, you know
d D DEI and the.

Speaker 15 (01:42:28):
Federal protections against race discrimination and discrimination those protected classes.
That's still on the books. But you see how Donald
Trump and the Republicans in the House and sentiment have
bastardized it. Now, not just turning around de I and
make it a bad name, but.

Speaker 9 (01:42:46):
Speaking it into existence. The media speaks it into existence,
and now DEI is a bad word, if you will.

Speaker 15 (01:42:54):
And so you get the Supreme Court where the expansion
of executive powers this Trump administration. You see, the lower courts,
the Article three courts are striking down his attacks on
the unions, his attacks on getting rid of agencies, his
attacks on as schools, his attacks.

Speaker 9 (01:43:12):
On law firms.

Speaker 15 (01:43:14):
Right well, the Article three courts, the lower courts are
all if you fight, you win against Donald Trump because
it has no real legal basis, even taking over DC
or federalizing federal troops to come in here when there
is no when there is no crisis whatsoever. And then
you get to the Supreme Court and they expand his
power to say, well, that's okay maybe, or they give

(01:43:38):
him just a little bit and he takes it and
runs with it, and the amount of lives these created
facts that have no basis, that become.

Speaker 9 (01:43:45):
The basis for these baseless lawsuits and stuff. So you've
either got to fight. If you can't afford to fight, you're.

Speaker 15 (01:43:51):
Going to be creating not only bad law, but bad legislation.
And until the Democrats can get the House or even more,
you've got to then undo everything Donald Trump has done.
And these executive orders can be undone, but what about
the damage that's been done for the last four years
when they shut down the museums and they start telling

(01:44:13):
lies about our story and all they want is a white,
pristine story about the.

Speaker 9 (01:44:18):
History of America.

Speaker 15 (01:44:19):
Even the founders said, we are in search of a
more perfect union. Right, America has never been perfect, not
for any of us. We've always wanted it to be
something more than she is. And we see the last
election with Donald Trump. She is who we thought she was,
and she stilled that person, which is why we are
not in the race color blind society under any circumstances.

(01:44:41):
And my biggest concern is when Trump doesn't run again
and be careful because he might run again their pathways
to that speak, Let's not sleep on that piece and stuff.

Speaker 9 (01:44:53):
But if the Democrats can't take the.

Speaker 15 (01:44:54):
House back, right, how do you undo four years or
more wifewashing of these lies that are being told. If
you look at the history of authoritarianism and communities and
societies in other parts of the world, Donald Trump is
the strong man of democracy. And I used democracy with
a small deed because he's not respected the democracy at all,

(01:45:18):
and because we voted them men, we the America if
you will not me, not you, But America's voted him
back in. There's a real sense in this country that
what was the fight for and what are we fighting about?
Because this was America's choice. Now, it was a close race,
much closer than he would let you think. But he's

(01:45:39):
the master marketeer, he's the master at line and making
it become the nomenclature of America, including getting us distracted
from Epstein, where he clearly was committing acts that would
not be appropriate.

Speaker 9 (01:45:54):
And I'm trying to clean it up.

Speaker 15 (01:45:55):
But we're talking about d C and we're talking about Ukraine, right,
We're not talking about the Epstein files anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:46:03):
We may never go back and talk about them.

Speaker 2 (01:46:05):
So whenever something, oh yes we will.

Speaker 15 (01:46:08):
Since the administration, well I hope so, but whatever we
go back, whenever we when do we get back to
all these issues and the undoing. You can spend the
next four years after Trump is gone, If Trump is gone,
undoing the damage he's done across arts, culture, science, academia, legal, politics, social.

(01:46:33):
I mean, they are a full court press on changing
who America is as opposed to who they want them
to be, which is a majority white super nationalist theocracy
in many respects.

Speaker 1 (01:46:47):
And see on the Congo if you want to understand.
And all these people may be saying, I man, I
just think y'all just do a little too much.

Speaker 2 (01:46:56):
This is a media eyepiece.

Speaker 1 (01:46:59):
The disturbing rise of Nick Fuintes highlights dangers of alternative
media in an anti woke world.

Speaker 2 (01:47:10):
Who is who is Nick Fuenttes?

Speaker 1 (01:47:13):
It says right here. In recent weeks far right provocations
booloo far no no no no no no no no
he doesn't, no he doesn't. Far right provocateur and white
nationalist leader Nick Fintes has been receiving accolades from many
of his fellow pro MAGA travelers for his ongoing feuds
with the likes of Tucker Carlson the Canadas Owens, as

(01:47:34):
well as for his vicious anti Israel rhetoric. Now Glenn
Grenwall Okay Feerce, critic of Israel so called progressive, he
praise on Fintes in mid August, saying quote, he is
quote spectacularly talented. I mean he's like, like you know,
a very rare, like generational talent in terms of his

(01:47:55):
ability to go before the camera, attract attention, be charismatic,
but he's not like a rancher and a raver.

Speaker 2 (01:48:04):
Nick fo Test is very well read, very very informed.

Speaker 1 (01:48:07):
There aren't a lot of folks who know more about Nick,
who know more about the topics Nick win Test covers
that Nick flinn Test.

Speaker 2 (01:48:13):
It's very impressive. At a Greenwall, the former Guardian journalist turned.

Speaker 1 (01:48:16):
Podcaster on the Congo, Glynn Greenwald is literally talking about
an absolute, flat out decrepit racist.

Speaker 2 (01:48:26):
Look at this here, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:48:28):
Vincent O'shawna, a co host on Patrick Bette David's popular podcast,
offered a similar take, agreeing that flind Test is on
a quote generational run. He added, and right now, I
don't care what anybody says he is freaking on fire.
Bet David also said he would be open to having
a foind test on his show, which would give him

(01:48:50):
access to his massive audience and potentially bring him into
their ECO system. Last point is Nick Foo intens on
my congo. Oh, he's the racist who went with Kanye
West tomorrow Largo and had lunch with Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (01:49:09):
Why am I? Why am I saying all of this
on my congo?

Speaker 1 (01:49:12):
Because these people are openly praising somebody who is gleefully
racist and a self described white supremacist and anti Semite.

Speaker 2 (01:49:31):
But for the right, he's their guy.

Speaker 1 (01:49:34):
So when you talk about so they there are no
guard rails, there is nothing they are.

Speaker 2 (01:49:42):
These are individuals.

Speaker 1 (01:49:44):
So I was remember Pat back Ben Davids was that
fool I destroyed down in Florida.

Speaker 21 (01:49:49):
So he's saying, oh, I will gladly put on this nasty,
despicable racist on my show.

Speaker 11 (01:50:01):
Wow.

Speaker 16 (01:50:05):
I wouldn't even be surprised if Gavin Newsom had him
on his podcast because he's trying to reach out to
these guys as well.

Speaker 5 (01:50:11):
And let's also be.

Speaker 16 (01:50:12):
Mindful of the fact Greg Guttfielder, remember he was on
Fox talking about we need to make Nazi the new
N word for us, and you know, laughing.

Speaker 5 (01:50:19):
At it like it was a joke.

Speaker 16 (01:50:20):
They want to desensitize it all and they were like, oh,
what's up a Nazi? Like they said, he said, we
should do it like the blacks. The blacks use the
N word, like, we need to do that for Nazi.
So all of these guys are having their moments now
and the sun, but they've been doing it for years
and now they're being plaid and it's disgraceful. But if

(01:50:41):
it's only more disgraceful if we don't wake up and
speak to it and fight these people who are liberals, democrats.
You want to be siding with the Nick twenty's and
them against Israel. No, you're anti na and Yahoo, this
guy is anti Jewish. It's a whole different conversation that
people need to be having right now. And Nick Fuentes
ain't the only one who's being planned by these guys.

(01:51:01):
They have made it impossible, or not impossible, but they
have made it extremely difficult for people to be called
a racist and lose their career, to be called an
anti Semiti or a homophobe or isomophobic, and lose their career.

Speaker 5 (01:51:13):
They're getting paid some of us.

Speaker 16 (01:51:15):
I'm sure saw that Mediassan Jubilee clip where they have
like twenty young people who are just like Nick Fuente's
and now they're being platformed as well. This is America
right now. People think that the youth are going to
save us. The youth aren't going to say if you
like this, keep getting platformed, and we're not doing enough
to uplift the people who are their age and similar
or younger who are fighting this, and that needs to

(01:51:38):
happen right now because people just think, oh, the youth
are going to come and there are young people out.

Speaker 5 (01:51:42):
There who are doing this work now.

Speaker 16 (01:51:44):
But these guys are having a platform and they are
all across the country. I'm teaping on college campuses. They
are embolden right now. Look, last thing I'll say. In
one of the high schools I work at, there was
a girl who said, oh, yeah, Trump wiped us aid
to al, oh Trump are reelected, now I can actually
shoot you now in the middle of fifth ave No,
nothing's gonna happen to me like this is happening in

(01:52:06):
our schools. An eight year old who girl said, oh,
Trump is down in the office.

Speaker 9 (01:52:12):
You better run.

Speaker 16 (01:52:12):
They're gonna enslave you. So and I know I said
last week, actually last week, and now.

Speaker 2 (01:52:17):
You try, you try to close like a Baptist preacher,
come on.

Speaker 16 (01:52:20):
To create racist literature to put in our schools for
the founding of America's two hundred and fiftieth year anniversary.

Speaker 2 (01:52:27):
So so so I'm gonna read this here, and this
is what I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:52:31):
Again, when you see the open embracing of a violent racist,
understand they are mainstreaming him and what that's what they're doing,
like they mainstream and accepted and glossed over Trump's bigotry.
This is what this is what this media eyed story says.

(01:52:52):
Past action taken against Points for his bigotry has now
led many to embrace him, particularly as anti woke sentiment
permeates every corner of the MAGA base. David pushed O'shawna
on why he's embracing w wind test now, and he replied, quote,
you know what it is, because, Okay, name the person

(01:53:16):
that can't even be on YouTube. He can't be on
YouTube because of the stuff that he says. They froze
his bank account.

Speaker 2 (01:53:23):
Oh y'all. The next paragraph says it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:25):
Fenn Test was deeplatform in recent years over his explicit
anti Semitism, as well as his repeated calls for limiting
the rights of women minorities in the LGBTQ community, and
then there have been some story saying he's actually gay.
His regular use of violent rhetoric has also caused alarm. Now,

(01:53:46):
Blenn Greenwald was praising Flind Test. Glenn Greenwall's also gay.

Speaker 2 (01:53:51):
That's insane to me, Okay, So I just want you
to understand. I'm gonna read his last one.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
In twenty twenty two, for example, Flin Tests called for
a dictatorship to get rid of quote the Jewish media
that has made Americas quote evil by making various things popular.
Quote sua be as popular, you know, being gay as popular.
Being a feminist is popular. Sex out of weight like
its popular, contraceptives are. That's all popular. That's not to
say it's good. That's not to say I like that.
Popularly means that people support it, which they do, and

(01:54:19):
it sucks and it is what it is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:21):
But that's what we need to tatorship.

Speaker 1 (01:54:22):
That's ironically why we need to get rid of all that,
he ranted, adding we need to take control of the media,
or take control of the government and force the people
to believe what we believe, or force them to play
by our rules and reshape society.

Speaker 2 (01:54:36):
Let me say it again. I'm trying to see this
quote again because this I'm going to close this thing out.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
We need to take control of the media, or take
control of the government and force the people to believe
what we believe, or force them to play by our
rules and reshape the society. So, folks, this white supremacist

(01:55:03):
who had lunch with Trump and Kanye, who's now being
openly embraced by right wing MAGA stars, he is now
being repositioned as a voice of reason, as a generational talent.
What he's saying, they are using government to force us

(01:55:27):
to believe what they want us to believe. Donald Trump
is weaponizing the Federal Communications Commission to force media companies
to get rid of DEI and do their bidding. So
what Nick Fuinn says has said MAGA is doing that.

(01:55:48):
And so if they are openly embracing an anti Semite,
a bigot, a racist, what do you think the next
level is they are going to make him one of
their stars, and we are gonna have a bigger bullseye

(01:56:11):
on us.

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the importance. I'm gonna run the Spightly interview tomorrow. The
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what's going on. These people are playing for keeps. They

(01:56:59):
may be filing, they may be touting these black folks
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for since.

Speaker 2 (01:57:18):
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Speaker 1 (01:57:21):
They want it all back, and we cannot be silent
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Folks. That's it for us.

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interview the other stuff, but we had to focus on
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