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(01:26):
hey folk. Today's Friday, July eighteenth, twenty twenty five, coming
up Uncooked streaming live with Black Starting Network. We are
here in the Philadelphia where Alpha by Album Attorney Incorporated
is one of their national convention. So it's always good
to see the brothers of the Black and Old goal.
We'll talk with the General President about some issues in
terms of what the convention that is focused on. Bishop

(01:47):
William Barber spoke here yesterday. Also, we're here from former
General President every War talking about the Alpha's Political Action
Committee the role they're going to play in the twenty
twenty six national mid terms. All So, Vice President JD.
Vance that liar was in the Philadelphia touting the new
tax bill. But he was really ignoring the impact that

(02:09):
it's gonna have on folks in Philadelphia and in Pennsylvania,
to all the black folks in the state, y'all gonna
get through lett, y'all know. Also on today's show, we'll
talk about Donald Trump. We told y'all they don't like
black people. Now they're ending a thirty five year program
that helped out farmers of color, including black farmers. And

(02:30):
all those simple Simon negroes who said Kamla Harris and
down Trump were the same, y'all look pretty damn stupid
right now. Also on today's show, we're talking about w
RD he strut Black Radio station basically some financial issues.
How are they gonna be able to survive in this climate.
We'll talk to one of their on air hosts as well.

(02:50):
Lots we're gonna break down. It is time to bring
the funk ole six style right here. I'm Roland Martin,
unfiltered on the Black Student Network Peace.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
Whatever the past, he's on it, whatever it is.

Speaker 7 (03:03):
He's got the school, the fact, the fine way it blaks.
He's right on top and is rolling.

Speaker 6 (03:10):
Best believe he's going putting it down.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
From his Loston news to politics with entertainment.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
Just bookcakes. He's stolen. It's rolling Montag.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
Yeah, rolling, he's Pronky's breast, she's real, good question, No,
he's rolling Monte.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
Folks are broadcasting here in Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, to be exact.
Some seven thigh in Alphas are here for the National Convention,
and so we are here as well. In a couple
of hours, the Step Show is gonna be taking place
behind us, and so it's gonna be jam packed, and
so we're here broadcasting and glad to be back in Philadelphia.
Also here today is the useless Vice President jd Vance.

(04:18):
He was here touting the Donald Trump tax bill, talking
about how it's gonna really help folks in Pennsylvania, but
he happened to skip over some of the stuff that
they're gonna get really screwed. So we're gonna talk about
that right now with State Center of Vincent Hughes. Of course,
he has to deal with the money here in Pennsylvania,
Chair of the Senate Democratic Appropriations Committee. We also, of

(04:40):
course have Teresa Lundy, principal and founder TML Communications Canadas,
Kelly Legal, analysts and hosts of Not All Hood, and
so glad to have them here. Senator Hugh's always good
to see you, see so his what's crazy. This is
the state that Trump won. And they always talk about
outside of Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania is Alabama in the middle.

(05:00):
And what's crazy to me, and I keep saying, is
how these broke white folks in this country. They always
talk about black people voting Democrats, about voting against our interests,
Yet they keep voting against their interests. You got about
one hundred and four, one hundred fredty thousand people who
gonna lose Medicaid in this state. You talk about snap benefits,
any number of different things. What the hell these people

(05:20):
thinking thinking that they thought was gonna happen.

Speaker 9 (05:23):
Well, the saying goes Roland, and thank you for coming
back to Philadelphia once again, and welcome to the good
brothers of Alpha Phi Alpha Incorporated. It's Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, and
Alabama in the middle, all right. And that's been the
same for decades. What we know is this is white

(05:44):
folks that particular crew made the conscious decision to once
again vote against their best interests. The thing that's so
diabolical about it this time, I was so alarming about
it this time is that everyone. They were told up
from what the deal was going to be with Project
twenty twenty five, right up front, and they still made

(06:05):
the conscious decision to vote against their own interests. And
so what's playing itself out is the reduction and snap
benefits is the reduction in healthcare the one that hasn't
been talked about a lot Rolland and we got to
find some time in future conversations and what's happening in
higher education and the costs the new cost right that

(06:27):
are going to be had with respect to repayment of
your student loans or.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
A payments student loans. They also make it changes to
pell grants as well. They're capping. They're capping for graduate programs.
So now if you're talking about people who are going
to graduate school, they're capping them ount of loans you
can get. So they're basically saying, if you don't already
have the means, you're screwed when it comes to being
able to go to graduate programs.

Speaker 9 (06:50):
Absolutely, all of those things happening across the board. It
is the worst time in the history of this country
as we see this reduction of all of these programs,
the protections in the civil rights spaces and housing, and education,
and all of the various different in healthcare, discrimination and healthcare,
which essentially, since there are no protections in place, all of.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
That will be allowed to continue.

Speaker 9 (07:15):
And the bottom line is, obviously it's gonna be hell
for us, okay, but probably an unanticipated pain for them,
and you know they're gonna have to go through it.
They need to understand and everybody needs to understand that
no state in this country has the financial capacity to

(07:36):
pick up the loss of resources that are coming from
White DC, no state in the country. So as they
start running to Harrisburg, Okay, Senator Hughes, we need some
help with this, Senator Hughes, we need some help with that.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
We made it very clear some of us right after.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
The November election, we can't afford the loss of resources
from Washington d C. They voted for it. Now all
of us are going to pay for it. They will,
and they did not anticipate it. You know, they were
told this is what's gonna happen.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Say listen, I'm petty. I know they called me King petty.
I'm petty, and I know you're not gonna do it.
I know y'all not gonna do it. I'm telling you
right now, if any of there was those county folk
in Pennsylvania were coming to my office, I was a
hold on one second. Check out the numbers your county

(08:29):
voted for Trump. I would be petty. But Roland here's
the redon and the reason, the reason reason. I think
that's important because I think they gotta be reminded. They
need You're coming, They're gonna be coming you Beck, Senner
Hughes say we need some help. No, no, no, but
this is why your your county's losing two three million dollars. Oh,

(08:53):
y'all voted for Trump.

Speaker 9 (08:57):
Every Republican and this is what And you have this,
this platform to address and reach folks at all levels,
every state Republican house member, every state Republican senator who
was quiet, and all of them were quiet right when
all these cuts were anticipated, where all these cuts were projected,

(09:19):
they were quiet. They need to be held accountable, not
just the ones in Washington, the ones at the state
level who knew that this was.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Going to happen.

Speaker 9 (09:27):
Here's an example, forty rural counties in Pennsylvania. Twenty six
of those rural counties, the hospital is the number one
healthcare provider, but the number one employer, right, But when
business generator one economic generator in that.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And we keep saying we talked about the hospital provide
the jobs, but that's how the convenience store stays in business,
the restaurant stays in business. All these things are around it.
So hospital leaves, all of that's gone, and they're projected
to close. They're projected.

Speaker 9 (10:00):
They said to their federal representatives, we're gonna shut down.
They've said to their state Republican representatives, we are going
to close.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
We cannot handle this.

Speaker 9 (10:13):
They need to be held accountable, not just the folks
in Washington, but the folks at the state level as well.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
And that message has got to go out to every state.

Speaker 9 (10:22):
Legislator, every constituent that is in these rural communities. Now
we're gonna catch hell in Philadelphia, We're gonna catch hell
in Detroit, We're gonna catch hell in Milwaukee. All Right,
the all way of providing healthcare services to those communities
will be generated back into the emergency room, most expensive care,

(10:42):
not necessarily the best care, but it'll be back in
those emergency rooms. But those folks who voted for Donald Trump,
especially those Republican legislatures must be held accountable.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
Are state democrats here, It's a state democratic party prepared
to document and call out every stance. And here's what
I mean. When the rural hospital of North Carolina closed,
the first person who that was a white woman who died.
She had to be airlifted like sixty five miles away.

(11:13):
She died. To me, this is one of those things
where state Democratic party should say so and so, god
sick hospital clothes had to travel X she or he
passed away. That's on you see. To me, this is
where it can't be a generalization. It has to be specific.

(11:35):
Y'all contributed to her death, and they got to own that,
and they gotta be able to say, no, no, that's y'all boy.
Y'all voted for him, that y'all backed him, that y'all
endorsed him.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
That's the information that needs to be provided in a
very real way. Sister Teresa's going to tell you, from
the communications perspective, the best way to.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Communicate the best way.

Speaker 9 (11:55):
But those personal stories like you just talked about are
the ones that really connect with people.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
They really hit home with people.

Speaker 9 (12:02):
You know this as well from your vantage point from
doing this all this time that you've been doing it
when it's a personal story, and they will be revealed
when that local hospital closed, when that local nursing home closed,
all right, and folks are gonna have to try to
travel ninety one hundred miles to get service, or the
people who work in those facilities are going to be

(12:22):
out of a job.

Speaker 10 (12:23):
All right.

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Those stories need to be told, all right.

Speaker 9 (12:27):
They need to be told, and state Democratic parties have
the obligation.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
To tell those stories. At Terrasa downstairs, they have these
huge pop ups of all the last I think eight
or ten alpha general presidents. That's what I'm talking about.
I would probably have a placard the size of that
wall right there behind me, and I'd be like, say,
listen right here to me, that's what you have to do.
I just believe that. I just believe that nationwide Democrats

(12:57):
are playing assault game. And what I mean by that,
just like we saw when they walked out of the
hearing Sin Judiciary hearing on yesterday. My de would be
we stopping everything. I'm putting a hold on everything. You
cannot play the old game of my colleague, all that

(13:18):
sort of stuff. No, no, no, you got to go
hardcore and so perfect example JD Van's here Yo JD
evance should have been met by five thousand people. Absolutely,
he line, He lined, I just think the game has changed.
How you combat the opposition has absolutely changed. They Democrats

(13:41):
have got to be hardcore gangster everywhere to deal with
what's happening right now.

Speaker 11 (13:47):
You know what, Democrats, I totally agree. I think Democrats
need to be as radical as the Republicans have been
this entire time. I think they have been bold. I
think their commentary, especially if you watch Fox News and
some of the other online digital platforms that are conservative center,
they have been real specific on calling out individuals by name,

(14:07):
by district, by fiscal responsibility. And it's been working because
if you start to see the talking points in social
media and the replies thereof it's all about the attacks. Now,
we're not saying we want you to attack the elected,
but we want you to hold them accountable. The way
you hold people accountable is by telling what the facts
are and then also resharing the facts, not speculating.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
I believe this is my colleague. I believe this is
you know so.

Speaker 11 (14:35):
And so that's doing it, or saying it's a general
body as a whole. But like you said, shutting it down,
making your voice heard, and meeting them where they at.
You know, I'm also a little bit disappointed, you know,
when we have you know, our beloved President Obama saying
that Democrats need to get tougher or you know, our
current DNC.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
Came out about folks, you stop navel gazing. Personal Obama,
I need you to sit down. No, I'm gonna go ahead
and say that, because because the reality is there are
people who are fighting. Yeah, there are people are who
are swinging. There are people they're not naval gazing. They're
out here swinging. Now, bruh, you out here making movies.

(15:19):
I mean that's nod. We're just gonna call it what
it is. This is not a time for soft leadership.
And again they everybody operate is with you know what,
He not gonna really go that far. They don't they
This is the Democrats right now are trying to defend institutions.

(15:39):
They are trying to decimate institutions. Correct, So you gotta
understand the game that you're not playing. They don't care
you don't.

Speaker 11 (15:49):
We're seeing it here at home, right So you know,
university depends a great example. Uh, they've had their try
trial and error with the Trump administration. They've upholded a
few of their things, but then they got overturned because
they decided to cave in and get those million dollars
back in funding. So and that's a you know, I
would say it's a democratic institution per se because of

(16:11):
you know, from the Biden family and everyone else that
went there. But I think overall the institutions also they're
I mean, they're fighting in court, right but there's only
but so much you can do when you have the
President of the United States who's also running the courts,
except for the Supreme Court, but that's a whole nother story.
So I think there's an opportunity there. But I think

(16:32):
going back to the original point, radical democratic leadership is
what I think everybody is more so looking for right now.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Canni. I mean, that's when we talk about the budget.
First of all, Republicans have backed aid a lot of this,
so they're not gonna take an impact. They're not gonnake
a victor twenty twenty seven. But if you're a state
rep or a state senator, every single day they should

(16:59):
be hammer ring, Oh it's coming, it's coming. Oh, you
don't feel it right now, but it's coming. And when
you talk about sitting on those committees at the state Capitol,
it's literature. Be you endorsed them, You endorsed them, you
endorse them, you endorse them. Oh so now y'all complaining.

(17:20):
Now y'all complaining. And then I and again, why that's
why I can never run for office because I'd be like,
I'm only voting for funding for the people who didn't
vote for Trump, because that's what they're doing that. I
know people say, no, no, no, we represent everybody. No, no,
damn that I'm gonna send money to the people who

(17:41):
didn't vote for him, because y'all voted for those cuts.
And when they come back with no, this is that
we voted for. Oh yeah, actually that is what you
voted for. Y'all are star was gonna be to the
black people and to the brown people. They didn't think
it was gonna be to them, and.

Speaker 12 (17:56):
It is very much.

Speaker 13 (17:57):
I think this really leaves open the opportunity to make
a smarter electorate. Why because, as you said, you tell
somebody exactly what happened, because they were part of the process,
but in the process of doing that you also have
to tell them what you need to do the next time.
It's just a few months ago that we were talking
about the price of eggs, So what they know is
coming is what we are seeing right.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
Now tweet how the price of beef has jumped a
big time as well.

Speaker 13 (18:23):
It has it has, and as you said, one of
the things that people don't understand, it's like when you
have a fight with somebody and they want to get
to the to the good stuff. I believe you as
you are saying, you have to go through the process.

Speaker 12 (18:35):
What happened in between there.

Speaker 13 (18:36):
Before we get to the apology and the place that
we're all happy and seeing kumbaya. The in between stuff
is that you were the one who voted for this.
You were the one who saw this coming with the
Project twenty five. But you were also the one who
decided I'm just going to ignore this and hope for
the best, or understand, try to understand that maybe this
is just going to affect black people when ultimately you're

(18:56):
seeing that we are talking rural, and we're talking rural,
are talking not African Americans in terms of the numbers.
We are talking white people, and now we are seeing
and we have to play the same game that the
Republicans are doing, because, as you said, they're calling everybody out,
they are putting up graphics, they are making it happy,
making sure that people understand.

Speaker 6 (19:17):
This is how you do it.

Speaker 12 (19:18):
What people are getting.

Speaker 13 (19:19):
Is a civic lesson right to understand what's going on
right now. And this is the time for really to
people to really hunker down. And I love your people,
by the way, this is time for people to really
hunker down and say, let me understand this world that
I'm living in now, because it's not working out for me,
and because of that, because my vote does matter, I

(19:41):
need to understand how we got here, because I certainly
didn't understand even with the road map that was before us,
with Project twenty five. It's really time for people to
wake up.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
Oh it's a perfect example when you talk about Trump
comes in with those they do massive cuts to rule internet. Yep,
those folks have to be reminded. Oh, I'm sorry. Oh
y'all voted for Trump. That's why you got That's why
you don't have any WiFi, That's why you don't have internet. Oh,
I'm sorry. It was Biden that passed the billions Trump

(20:10):
came in and whacked all of those billions. So sorry,
we were gonna supply y'all with internet. But Trump is
the reason why you don't have internet.

Speaker 9 (20:20):
Have to be reminded, have to be reminded it is,
and I think Kansas is exactly correct the moment where
we do a CIVIX lesson, Like you just said, just
look at it a different way.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
This is a Civics lesson. This is what you voted for.

Speaker 9 (20:34):
This is why you're not getting the help that you
had historically received.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
Okay, think about.

Speaker 9 (20:40):
In Pennsylvania, Rowland, there's over one hundred and twenty five
thousand folks who are suffering from the fentanyl crisis. They
get their assistance from medicaid. They're gonna lose all of that.
And where are they They're not just in Philly, Pittsburgh, Chester, Harrisburg,

(21:03):
places like that.

Speaker 2 (21:04):
They're all cross.

Speaker 9 (21:05):
Pennsylvania in rural communities struggling and the only means for
their assistance is Medicaid.

Speaker 2 (21:12):
They're gonna lose that help. The snap piece. Those processes
begin not two years from now.

Speaker 9 (21:20):
Those processes begin actually around September one, in a couple months,
all right, And so these things are going to play
themselves out.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Right in front of our eyes.

Speaker 9 (21:32):
And the states we're talking about this today. We had
a press conference on this issue today. Senator Art Haywood
and a few other Senator Street, a few others brought
us together. The process will play itself out and the
fact that the costs will have to go to administer
this YEP to the state level, which means one hundreds

(21:53):
of millions of dollars at the state level that could
be utilized to provide some other service will have to
be utilized to administer a failed process that has been
proven to be a failure in several other states before
it will be implemented here in Pennsylvania and other states
in a short couple of months.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
And of course a lot of those states that a
lot of these states have had surpluses because of Biden
Harris during COVID, the billions that went out, and they've
fos have been sitting on surtpluses and touting that in
their relection campaigns. A lot of that money is about
to start disappearing because Trump they won't support disaster aid.

(22:32):
So when you have hurricanes or tornadoes hit, they're like, yeah,
you're stuck out. We're not gonna help you.

Speaker 9 (22:37):
And so think about Roland from this perspective. Every aspect
of American life in your community, in any community may
be from is worse now than it was on November fifth.
It's worse now than it was on January twenty. On

(23:00):
November fifth, gas the gas station around the corner from
my house, gas was two eighty seven per gallon gas.

Speaker 2 (23:06):
This station now is three point fifteen per gown. I'm sorry,
but Trump said gas went down, yet not.

Speaker 9 (23:13):
At the gas station in westle Up around the corner
from my crib corner.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Trump gas went down, eggs down, down, down, down exactly
every aspect of American life it's worse.

Speaker 12 (23:25):
You know.

Speaker 13 (23:25):
This is like, this is like real life Jinga. You
start pulling one, the whole thing comes down. You start
pulling the jobs from the hospital. Then the families have
explode because you don't have any money coming in the house. Household,
because you don't have any money coming in the household
because of the fact that somebody has lost their job.
You don't have people who have Medicaid anymore. And then

(23:46):
they're just dying, and then you don't have a mother
or father. This is like watching real life Jinger and
everything that's been a part of this big beautiful bill.
You pull one thing and everything can come tumbling down.
Just one thing, Everything can come tumbling down. Especially with hospitals.
You have to be alive first in order to deal
with anything else. And if I can't get the healthcare

(24:07):
that I need, well, everything's gonna come down. Everything's gonna
come tumbling down. It is a real life jingle.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Absolutely, Sarah Hughes, We certainly appreciate it. Que up the
good fight and we'll keep giving them a hell over
here too.

Speaker 9 (24:18):
Please do man, and thank you for having me these
two lovely sisters right here. Okay, genius talent, and of
course Cheryl told me to tell you hello.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
Tell them I appreciate it. Folks, gonna go to a
quick break. We come back. We're gonna talk to Representive
Malcolm Kenyattle of course, VP Democratic National Committee. The question
is how aggressive will the DNC combating the thugs in
the White House. We'll discuss that next right here. Roland
Martin unfiltered on the Blackstar Network, Live from the Alpha,

(24:48):
out of commitvention here at Philadelphia. Back in a moment.

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(27:46):
We are here in Philadelphia. Alpha Convinced is taking place
and so we're broadcasting live here. Join us right now
is Pennsylvania State Rep. Malcolm Kenyada also vice president Democratic
National Committee. A second time, you only have they had
a revote and it was all that drama. So that's
all done. Good to see you, Good to see you too.

Speaker 3 (28:06):
That wasn't the history I was trying to make.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
But first of twice, so yeah, yeah right right, lifted
twice in within six months.

Speaker 18 (28:13):
You know, if Mike Pennce had the courage, I would
have been in the first.

Speaker 2 (28:18):
Let's first of all, Okay, we saw the clip when
you were on News Nation. Yeah, uh so how long
were you on air? Like by ninety seconds, you.

Speaker 18 (28:28):
Know, ninety six seconds. My team, my team counties.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
So he got so Leland Vedder got mad because you
wouldn't answer you. He got a little yes question about
jeffries In Sharpton. Yeah, like so I don't know what
that was about.

Speaker 18 (28:39):
And you know, we talked about.

Speaker 2 (28:40):
This a little bit.

Speaker 18 (28:41):
We were at essence about the critical nature of black
media in this moment, because I said when I was
on the Native Land podcast, whether it's whether it's you,
Roland or some of these other incredible people who are
using the platforms that they've built to educate our folks.
Because the mainstream media, we see CBS canceling the Coldbert
Report doing everything they can sixty minutes, all these places

(29:03):
that you used to be able to depend on at
least some impartial, unbiased excavation of the facts, they're no
longer doing that. And independent media is so critical. Whether
it's Donald Trump's health, it was people in independent media
that pushed the mainstream media and actually talk about that scandal.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
And I know that like big ankles, big ankles, right.

Speaker 18 (29:21):
I mean, you know, and he has like some serious
health conditions that nobody in the media is talking about.
And the list goes on and on. But the reason
Leland and I had that back and forth is that
he did a twelve minute open about political violence. Said
nothing about the speaker Hortman who was assassinated her and
her husband Mark, said nothing about.

Speaker 2 (29:40):
The first sing the bitter is a right winger who
came from Fox. But let's just be clear what the real.

Speaker 18 (29:46):
No, he's he's balanced, he's balanced, he's he said he's
fair and balanced, but he could not find a single
Republican who had engaged in political violence and laid it
all at the feet of I think it was representative,
been represented, says, are some others from the Progressive Caucus
who were talking about people going with their neighbors to
their ice check ins at court and standing with each other.

(30:10):
And he's equating that to the same type of political
violence that we're seeing from the right. It's not the same.
And I wasn't going to allow him to get away
with it, but you know, he didn't want to finish
the conversation. But I would go back if he wants
to actually talk go anywhere.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
Well, you know, first of all, that's that's that's the
situal News Nation is. And when I went on there
with Dan Abrams straight lied they're just cut out half
of a tweet that and he got called up with
my fans for like six months after this, I mean,
they were still lighting his.

Speaker 18 (30:34):
Ass up to my nation is somewhere doing it right now.

Speaker 19 (30:38):
Hit me.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
They wanted me to come back on the next night
to exp I said, I'm not explaining the damn thing.
And I said, also, I don't need I said, I
got more viewers than y'all do, So why do I
need to go on your show? I'm like, and he
hit me back on I'm like, and I still got
more people watching me, and then watch them. That's a
whole other thing. Let's talk. What we were just talking

(30:59):
about was sitting hughes of these all of these rural
white conservatives voting against their interests. Now they're crying, Now
they're begging resources. We played the video or there's one
white woman, a hardcore maga in Texas, but then she
had all these tears when the flood hit and was
begging for help and I'm like, oh, oh, now, y'all
have compassion. And when people are asking people are just

(31:22):
they said, are we going to see democrats respond aggressively?
Blackpack has a new poll out that it's not good
news for Democrats. And I think in this moment where
people are demanding, they want to see that folk are
willing to fight, to be aggressive, to challenge uh, to

(31:42):
challenge opposition, because you got thugs you're dealing with who
don't care. And so what is the DNC plan? What
is Ken Martin going to do? Because the people I
travel all around the country and the people they're like, yo,
I need to see somebody fighting these folk.

Speaker 18 (32:00):
So so let me let me. Let me start by saying,
you're you're absolutely right. You know, I don't know who
said this, and so if you said this to me, no,
I'm quoting you right that you know, Democrats are playing checkers,
Republicans are playing grand theft auto and they're on you know,
they've stolen their their next vehicle and shot up the
damn hospital. And so you know, we are in a
position where I will tell you I'm not deflated by

(32:22):
by those by those numbers of people wanting folks to
to fight harder, wanting the Democratic Party to do more.
I think it says something good about Democrats that they
hold their elected officials to a high standard and that
they recognize all the stuff that they care about, not
the play play stuff politics, not like a joke, the
stuff that Senator Hughes and I are fighting on right now,

(32:43):
trying to get funding for SEPTA so that people can
get to work, the impact of the seventeen million people
are gonna lose healthcare. People want to know that you
give a damn about my person I love best in
the world having their entire life turned upside down because
of these policy decisions. Now, as it relates to we
have to do in this moment, is we have to
think outside the box. And I think a prime example

(33:05):
of that is what's happening in Texas because there is
not a single thing that this administration that has done
that is popular with the American people. And I would
say to folks watching, you should know this, Donald Trump
is underwater in every single poll there is, even on
the central thing that got him elected, around the border
and immigration. He's underwater on those numbers as well. So

(33:25):
they don't believe they can win fair and square They're
not trying to square up like people used to square up.
They're coming with all types of tricks and games. They're
trying to do this mid century redistrict thing. And cher
Martin was supposed to be in Philadelphia right now at
the Young Democrats convention, but is in Texas with the
members of the Texas House strategizing, organizing with them to

(33:47):
say what can we do to support them as they
do the work that all of us need to be
doing to standing up to this guy. But I think
what's happening in Texas is a prime example of what
I've been saying everywhere I go. We have to look
local first as a party and recognize that so many
of the downstream impacts that we see in Washington are
really a reflection of the lack of attention that we've

(34:11):
paid to what's happening locally.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Here's a perfect example. Just the other day, Representative Jeffries,
Representative Robin Kelly, Representative Troy Carter, w Washington Schultz And
it was a one from California. So they're in New
Orleans and they're talking talking about these Medicaid cuts, and

(34:35):
I go, why are you in New Orleans? I said,
if you're gonna do that, isn't it more effective to
hold that news conference outside of one of Mike Johnson's
district offices. First of all, you're gonna guarantee to get
local coverage, You're gonna get state coverage, it's gonna get

(34:56):
national coverage. I said that to me, that's a perfect example.
You're doing something on your turf that you already got
New Orleans. But no, you gotta take the fight to
his district. I put it up on the show he
has I said he has five district offices. I said,
those five members of Congress, they should have had a

(35:17):
different news conference outside of every one of his district
offices and say, okay, we're gonna come to your district.
This is Louisiana. To me, that's how you have to
fight back. I sometimes, frankly don't understand. I whant to
see some Democratic politicians who are trying to fight a

(35:38):
battle swinging feathers. To me, you could take the fight
to them. I'm going on your turf and challenge you
in front of your office and say, these are the
number of people in this district who are gonna lose Medicaid.
Number people who are gonna lose snap benefits? Who's the

(36:00):
California congressman sixty four percent of his district is on medicaid.
I would if I'm Jeffers, I'm going to his district
holding a news conference. To me, that's the kind of
energy that I believe you have to be fighting somebody with.
That then is going to generate the attention that you
actually want.

Speaker 18 (36:20):
No, that's that's that's absolutely right, and that's that's that's good,
good advice, great advice. One of the things I've tried
to do is to really recognize in this in this
role that I have as vice chair of the DNC,
what what what can I do right? What are what
are the things that within my control and authority? And
I don't say this as a as a as a dodge,
but one of the things I recognize is that the

(36:40):
DNC can't do everything, and if you try to do everything,
can't do anything.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
Well.

Speaker 18 (36:43):
But let me tell you what we are doing exactly
in line with what you're saying. We started this thing
just last week called Organizing Summer, and I've been so
incredibly excited by the turnout where we are training people
on the ground to figure out how to do the
type of organizing, the direct contact to their legislators in
thirty six targeted districts where Republicans not only screwed over

(37:09):
their own constituents with the vote for this big bullshit bill,
but also in districts that we really have the possibility
to flip this in this upcoming election. So far, in
just four months, Democrats have held one hundred and fifty
five town halls in every single state, including Alaska, talking

(37:29):
about a whole host of issues. But right now, what
we've done is try to get even more strategic and
even more granular to the districts that we're going to
actually need to make the math work to make how
Kim Jefferys the next Speaker.

Speaker 2 (37:42):
Of the House.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
But this is true.

Speaker 18 (37:44):
We're asking folks to give us a chance to lead,
an opportunity to lead. And I will say, when we
get the opportunity to lead the trust of people to lead,
then we have to do something. We have to engage
with the type of ruthlessness to make people's lives better
as they engage with a ruthlessness to make life miserable
for folks. Because it seems like whenever Donald Trump is

(38:05):
not on Epstein's island. He is trying to make things
worse for the American people. And I know that folks
might not care, but there are people in my district
who go to Walmart right on Delaware Avenue who are
now paying fifty one percent more for baby formula, for
car seats for their kids, and a whole other host

(38:27):
of issues. And I know folks like you know Trump
and the people who got the tax cuts, they don't
care about that. But I know, you know, Teresa, many
other folks know that that makes all the difference for
people who, like my mama, were penny pension.

Speaker 10 (38:40):
Oh absolutely well.

Speaker 2 (38:41):
And first of all, I believe that strategy is critically
important because I keep reminding people the midterm elections next
year is not a national election. It is a district
by district election. You're gonna have state seats. You got
nine or twelve Senate seats that are gonna be on
the ballot, but it's really those forty thirty five House seats,

(39:01):
and they are thirty five vulnerable Republicans who have to
be targeted as eight hundred fifty thousand people each one
of those particular districts. And so yes on the ground,
hardcore local, local, local, because if you turn out people
at end of the day, the reason Trump is trying
to do gerrymandering in Texas in Ohio because they desperately

(39:24):
know that they lose five seats. Democrats have the House.
And so that's what we're talking about right here. And
folks have to understand the states that are at play, Teresa,
that to me that that state by state or was
I always say state by state, city by city, county

(39:47):
by county, neighborhood by neighborhood, block street home, that literally
has to be the focus.

Speaker 13 (39:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 11 (39:54):
And I also think you know, going to the and
I love that you know, Malcolm is not only a
friend but also a neighbor in North Philadelphia.

Speaker 2 (40:05):
Right, So taking what we've.

Speaker 11 (40:06):
Done, even on the local level from grassroots and taken
it to the national level, because that summer organizing just
doesn't come out.

Speaker 12 (40:14):
Of thin air.

Speaker 11 (40:15):
It actually takes folks who has been doing grassroots organizing
all their lives, right, either them individually or either them
by those that we have as mentors and those that
we have as overseers. But I also don't want us
to forget about the civic organizations that are supposed to
be leading these civil rights charged from the NAACP, the

(40:40):
Urban League of the National Urban League and all these
other great, phenomenal established over one hundred year institutions who
are supposed to be doing the same fight that we are.
Because the DNC can't do it alone, you know, local
organizations can't do it alone. And sometimes all of it
is not about being funded, it's about being inspired, and

(41:02):
so we are looking for leaders who are trying to
inspire and reconnect and rejuvenate. So again, you know, I'm
always happy with whatever I see you on commentary, but
I'm also.

Speaker 12 (41:15):
Happy because you know, the.

Speaker 11 (41:17):
Elected officials who are doing work right, you know, the
ones who are not just in the seat legislatively, but
are also in the community, going block black block, district
by district and city by city, and also lending their
voice to come on these podcasts because this is also
a labor of love right for some of those electors.

(41:38):
But you have to, like you said, get in their face,
do the work, show up and make sure everybody else
has a seat at the table.

Speaker 2 (41:44):
But I think we have to. I think we I
agree with think Teresa says, But what I keep emphasizing
is I'm not putting this on electeds. I'm not putting
this on a party. What I want people to understand
is every and everyday ordinary person. If one hundred people

(42:06):
in a neighborhood decide that they're gonna go get the data,
which is public, to look at how many people in
my precinct voted, then they can go, wait a minute,
we can actually go door to door ourselves. People have
to understand that they can actually be a difference maker.

(42:26):
They don't have to wait for somebody to swoop in
to actually do this. People can decide on their own
to go blockwalking. Right, that's right.

Speaker 18 (42:36):
No, that's that's that's that's absolutely right. And one of
the things I've been saying often, and it feels particularly
resonant for me right now thinking about Representative Lewis's birthday yesterday,
good troubled day. I always say that I think there's
a little bit of historical revisionism that ends up going
on in people's minds, where I keep hearing people ask,
you know, who's going to be the next Representative Lewis

(42:58):
or next to Martin Luther King or.

Speaker 2 (43:00):
Another person asked me about twenty twenty eight, I'm a cuss.
I tell people about twenty twenty eight. I said, we
got race in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 18 (43:10):
We have races right now in New Jersey. In Virginia,
we have retention races for the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, where
billionaires like Musk are putting in millions of dollars to
try to overturn the seats of our Democratic Supreme Court justices.
That are the reason we were able to have fair
redistricting for our congressional seats. By the way, But I

(43:33):
just want to make this point that I think in
retrospect people look at these big name folks and are
asking who are going to be those folks of this generation.
And I keep saying to people, don't worry about who
gets the quote unquote credit. All that stuff is decided later.
Just get on the bridge like people did sixty years
ago on the I'm in Pett's Bridge. Just get on
the bridge. Don't worry about what the article headline is

(43:53):
going to be. But to your point, pick up a
walksheet wherever you live and try to make a difference
where you are.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
And I just end by saying this.

Speaker 18 (44:01):
You don't have to be frustration free to get involved
it's actually your frustration and your anger that is going
to drive you in this work. It can't sustain all
of it. You have to have some hope, you have
to have some joy in this stuff. But it's that
anger that is Ah. My therapist reminds me. Anger is
an emotion that they gets you up and going and moving,
and if you listen to it, it can drive you

(44:22):
in the direction where there might be some passion and
some ability for you to really use use your talents.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
Yeah, I ain't got a therapist. I just cuss people out.
I just cussed people out. No no, no, no, oh,
I'm a therapist. I cush type of therapy. You can't
go well, you know.

Speaker 13 (44:43):
I'm just reminded about when you when you first talked,
you talked about being on News Nation for about ninety
six seconds and then they asked you to come back,
and honestly, you didn't have to come back right because
everybody has what Roland is saying, they have that you
can go door to door and pick up and do
whatever whatever you want.

Speaker 6 (45:00):
You can also be your own media center and guide.

Speaker 13 (45:04):
You can get on YouTube live right now, you can
get on ig live right now and be your own station.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
No, no, no, no, your ass can go live it eight
oh one.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
That's right, It can't be between six pm and a PM.

Speaker 2 (45:18):
Don't do it.

Speaker 12 (45:20):
Don't do it, that's right.

Speaker 13 (45:23):
Yes, then you can corral the people to go door
to door after but you know when aight oh one
pm begins, people have to understand too. And I think
that this is where, you know I mentioned it before,
we have to understand the civics part of it and
how it works, the marketing part of it, the getting
people enthused about it, and really making people understand that

(45:44):
they actually have power. Because when you're sitting there at
home and you're lamenting, and you know you've spoken to
your therapist and you feel like you have not gotten
up to a better point, you think that you don't
really have any power.

Speaker 12 (45:57):
And if you.

Speaker 13 (45:57):
Don't know how to do it, then you need some instruction.
And quite frankly, there are a lot of people. If
you go to your local church, if you go to
you know people like you who are local goal in
the neighborhood, you can find out how to do it.
But media is the big part. That's what you were saying.
That's how you get local media, and you.

Speaker 6 (46:15):
Have to that's right.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
Media for a reason. That's right.

Speaker 13 (46:17):
It's called mass media for a reason. But you have
to rally the people, Malcolm.

Speaker 2 (46:20):
Explain to people, because again my head hurts when this happens.
Explain to people exactly what the Democratic National Committee does,
because there's this thick belief that they control it all
and not realizing that listen, packs have totally changed the game.

(46:41):
The DNC used to be the central fundraising arm. Frankly,
they raise less money really than all these different packs whatever.
So a lot of people just have no understanding what
the DNC actually is.

Speaker 18 (46:53):
Yeah, and McCain fine gold, and I'm gonna go back
to your question. But McCain fine gold also made it
more difficult frankly for parties. There were some some good
stuff in that, but made it more difficult for parties
that that centralized focus. But but we have a we
have a simple job. Our job is to elect Democratic
nominees and to beat Republicans. That is our That is
our simple job. But we have an important responsibility in

(47:14):
the broader democratic ecosystem because the Democratic Party, we maintain
the national voter file. That may sound like a small thing,
that's a big thing. The way that candidates are able
to actually knock on your door and sometimes send you
more text messages than your first This is what I mean.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
So the National Democrat National Committee. Then you have state parts,
that's right. Then you have county parties. That's the infrastructure.
So people just think, oh, no, they just govern everybody. No,
there's an actual organizational structure here where naturally you're trying
to fund state parties. State parties are then fund county parties.

(47:54):
So that's that That's what the DNC actually is.

Speaker 18 (47:57):
That's that's what we are. We're the keeper of the
of the voter file. We are the umbrella organization for
a lot of different entities that frankly do their own things.
Like I hear all the time too, where people say, well, Malcolm,
make this state party. We can't make a state party
do anything either. It's the same way in many in
many respects that you think about the separate structures of

(48:19):
your federal government, your state government, and your local government.
You know what people feel on the day to day
is their local party. You know the committee person that
you that you know, and then that committee person and
all of you you help elect state committee people who
then make up the Pennsylvania Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (48:36):
And that's just the DNC, that's just the Democratic govern
Association is different. Ye, the Democratic Senate, a Congressional committee different,
the d SCC, the d Triple C, the Democratic State
Legislative Group. So you have all these different entities that
are at play, and they and they all have votes
and input on the on the DNC, but they're their

(48:57):
own separate entities. And so you know, they're people who.

Speaker 18 (49:00):
Think, you know, we control the democratic calendar and Congress,
we control the congressional uh, the congressional calendar. You know,
we're not in control of everything. But what we can
do and what we are focused on is recruiting, training,
the types of organizers that we're gonna need, making sure
that our candidates when they are the nominees, have the

(49:20):
supports that they need to win hard elections. Win the
election winning business, the policy, business, everything else those are
other people's things. I know we get blamed for it,
but but you know, Chair Martin said something that he
says that all the time that to be.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
A party in mind the other mart no relation, that
is a different chair different no no, no relations.

Speaker 18 (49:43):
But he says all the time and it's and It's true.
You know, to be a party leader is like be
a fire hydrant. Everybody comes and pisces on you, and
every now and then you get to let out some
watar and put out a big, a big fire, but apart.
You know, I decided to to try to take this
on because I was sick of just yelling into the wind,
being on Twitter, being upset, and I decided to open

(50:03):
the hood up, get some oil on my face, ye
get some get my hands dirty, and try to do
everything we can. And one of the things I've been
focused on like a laser is the Deep South. People
have seen me across the South a lot. I'm about
to be back in Texas. I've been in Florida three
times already with justin Tennessee. Last week was in Mississippi
and some of the Alabama young Democrats they said, if

(50:24):
I don't get to Alabama, they're not gonna let me
out of the convention. So I got to get to Alabama.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
This Bishop Barbecue saying, he said the problem is not
he said, the problem is the South is disorganized. It's
not organized. Absolutely.

Speaker 18 (50:35):
You know, people don't know they're more black folks in
Mississippi than any other state in the country, and.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
So like places the three largest number of eldible black
voters at any state in America, right and.

Speaker 18 (50:45):
So and so we're in a position where we have
to organize those folks, yep. And then also we have
to We're in a position where I keep saying to folks,
give the Democratic Party, give all of us the opportunity
to change too. Because it's so easy to be so frustrated.
And you've seen this in your life. You have people
in your life you're so frustrated with them, even when
they're taking out the garbage like you want, you still
look good about the last time they didn't. This entire

(51:06):
DNC are new people. We've only been here for six
months and we are trying our hardest to receive the
feedback and implement the things that people are people are saying.
But I ain't asking you to be not frustrated. I'm
just asking you to not just stay online with your frustration.
Come to your local Democratic Party.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Meeting, all right, Dan Well, Riverson, kenyatank you so much,
Keep up the work, keep up the pressure, and uh yeah,
this chair Martin gonna keep being petted.

Speaker 6 (51:32):
And that's your strategy.

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That's right. Give them hell every single day. We appreciate it.
Thanks about folks. Gotta go to a break. We come back.
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Speaker 24 (57:43):
Personal advisory board. I think that's one of the things
that's helped me the most, the personal advisory board of
the people who are.

Speaker 7 (57:50):
In the business of you.

Speaker 4 (57:52):
You personally and one of the youth deceeed.

Speaker 19 (57:55):
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Speaker 2 (58:12):
Folks said, that's the of course, the Grand ballroom here
at the convention center getting ready for the Steps show
the Brothers would be that'd be starting in less than
an hour. We're sitting just outside of the ballroom. It's
going to be absolutely jam packed in there. Not quite
as big a was that the Delta Convention. My god, y'all,
shull man, it was about ten thousand sisters in that room.

(58:37):
It was crazy. First of all, I text my wife,
I'm like, what table you sitting there? She's like, table
one thousand and fifty four I was like, I ain't
sitting way back there, so I said I'd be up front,
so I ain't sitting way to hell back there. I
think she was another state sitting back there. All right,
we're here at Philadelphia, the Alpha Convention, joining us right
now my far left, and uh, that's where he seated

(59:01):
Congressman Al Green of Texas. Glad us see my dear
Alpha brother, Congress and Bobby Scott of Virginia, and stand
next to me, doctor Everett Ward. He is with the
Alpha Political Action Committee. Glad to have all y'all here.
I'm gonna start with you, Congress and Green listen. I
have said constantly that what we have in Black America

(59:22):
is we have un utilized capacity. When you look at
D nine organizations, when you look at Links, when you
look at Prince Hall, Mason, Eastern Star, we can go
down the line. We have all these organizations, but I
believe they're too insular. And the reality is when you
talk about five O, one C three, folks are also

(59:44):
scared of protecting their their tax status. And I get it,
but that says an organization can't endorse a candiate doesn't
mean you can't be active on issues and so what
do you say to Alpha's nationwide in terms of being
even more involved in what's happening politically in this country

(01:00:05):
on the national level, the state level, the county, the
city level as well, plus what happens when our school districts.

Speaker 25 (01:00:10):
Well, thank you very much, Roldness. In order to be
on your program, I have to say this. I heard
you appeal earlier one thousand, seven hundred and fifty dollars.
I want to make sure that I.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
Can make my contribution, so I appreciate it.

Speaker 25 (01:00:22):
Thank you Now in terms of what you've asked, I
believe in unity with our uniformity. Not only do we
have to do things within Alpha Phi Alpha, but we
have to unite with the Deltas and the Akas, all
of the divine nine. We can work together and the
multiplier that we will produce by working together can change
this country just with these fraternities.

Speaker 3 (01:00:44):
So, yes, you're right, we have.

Speaker 2 (01:00:46):
To do it.

Speaker 25 (01:00:46):
But to do it, we've got to get together as
a unit, and we don't have to give up our identities. Right,
It's continue to be who we are, but let's have
unity without uniformity and make a difference.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
Conceren Scott twenty eleven, a vote suppression bill was passed
in Ohio and the folks there they had to collect
three hundred thousand signatures to get it put on the
ballot in twenty twelve, and so in eleven so Congresswoman
and Marsha Fudge, then Conginswoman Fudge, I actually moderated the
D nine panel. So all the presidents were sitting up there.

(01:01:18):
Doctor World wasn't president yet, so he didn't get challenged
like I did. So I challenged all the presidents. I said,
were they aware of this? They said no, and then
everybody was as Fudge was like move along. I was like, no,
We're going to stay right here. Here's what ended up.
I was pressing them if by I talking about all
day voter program, I was like, I don't want to
hear all that. The next thing, they had a panhead
meeting and they calculated there were one hundred and twenty

(01:01:43):
D nine chapters in Ohio alone, and I said that
if each one of those chapters committed to get one
thousand signatures for the petition, the D nine alone could
supply one third of the necessary petitions. What shocked them
was one hundred and twenty. They had never kept. So
it goes to the point in the cons for al Green.
We have all this capacity, but we're operating as these

(01:02:05):
individual organizations opposed to how can we move as a
unit to be able to change our community.

Speaker 26 (01:02:12):
Well, I think you pointed out the capacity and what
you can do politically, but you can't get away from
the message of what's going on. They just passed a bill,
the big ugly bill that cuts Medicaid, cuts food stamps,
cuts access to college in order to fund tax cuts

(01:02:33):
for the wealthy. And after they've done that, they run
up three point four trillion dollars in debt. We have
to make sure that message gets out. And one thing
you can do is all those chapters, make sure the
word gets out. If everybody gets a couple of thousand
people that message.

Speaker 2 (01:02:49):
And it has no impact on your ORIS status. And
because that's just information, you.

Speaker 26 (01:02:53):
Don't want to be diverted that people want to talk
about epsteine and everything else. Now we want to talk
about they're taking away your healthcare, and we don't want to.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Change the subject.

Speaker 26 (01:03:03):
And so if we can focus on issues, then you
can get into voter registration and get out of the
vote and make sure, you can change some of these
seats so they don't have the votes to pull this
stuff up.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
Doctor Ward, the creation of this pack again, what that
says is that you can have members of an organization.
The RS allows for a publical action committee, but which
is separate from what organization does. The NRA has always
been a five one C three and a fible one
C four. They do gun education, that's the main part

(01:03:36):
of NR, but then have a political arm and too
many of our groups, frankly, have been afraid to go
there out of fear, Oh my god, this is going
to affect our tax status. Pack was created? Why and
what is your focus for twenty.

Speaker 27 (01:03:51):
Six Well, we created the Alpha pack for exactly what
you said. We have to raise money to support candidates
who support our issues.

Speaker 10 (01:04:00):
That's why we re formed in twenty nineteen.

Speaker 27 (01:04:03):
If you will remember, there was a critical election in
Georgia and we helped raise money, helped with the ground
game with Senator Raphael Warnock. So what we realized Alpha
and Alpha, But what we realize is that we have
to be engaged in politics three hundred and sixty five
days of the year. So when we formed the Alpha Pack,

(01:04:26):
we said we're going to endorse Canadas. First of all,
we're going to screen them to make sure they are
focused on the issues that are important to us.

Speaker 10 (01:04:33):
We don't want to hear anymore.

Speaker 27 (01:04:35):
Come to the black church in October, talk about who
you know, and then you leave. But we want to
look at your legislative agenda. We want to see your
voting record, we want to see how serious you are,
and then we'll consider you. But we raised money, That's
how we got started. We just today met as an
organization and listen to the issues that are impacting our community.

(01:05:00):
We just passed the motion that we're going to do
everything we can to make sure that we help Congressman
Al Green and Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett because they've been targeted.
We're not going to let them go. In twenty twenty four, they're.

Speaker 2 (01:05:17):
Talking all the black and he targeting contra Al Green concer,
Jasmine Crockett conson, Mike Vizi, comes on Sylvia Garcia. They
want to get rid of all four of those in Texas.

Speaker 27 (01:05:27):
And what we're going to do is make Texas a priority,
raise money, We're gonna have a ground game. We supported unapologetically.
Lisa Blunt Rochester in Delaware, we supported unapologetically Angela also
Brook in Maryland. They got elected, but we are proud

(01:05:48):
to say we were on the right side. And now
we have two black females in the US Senate. We
supported members of the Congressional Black Caucus. But we are
now going to move beyond just federal and now our
pack is going to go to local candids because what
this political Let me just be careful rolling what's happening

(01:06:12):
to this so called unfiltered Yes, sir, you ain't gotta
be careful.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
You will.

Speaker 27 (01:06:16):
What we're going to do, you can tell me and
I'll say it. We're going to stand firm as a
pack along with others to make sure we are going
to stand against the turnback of time. We're not going
back to the days of nineteen forty and nineteen thirty.
This is twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, twenty twenty.

(01:06:38):
We're gonna raise money, We're going to help candidates get elected.
And that's what the Alpha Pack is all about.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Teresa, I keep saying the black folks, and some people
got mad this. I said, listen, don't send your money
to a president your campaign, don't send to a party.
I said, send it to black groups who you know
are going to put the money on the ground. The
reality is too many white consultants want to put the
money in television. They don't want to fund ground games,

(01:07:06):
they don't want to go to neighborhoods. And that's the problem.
And so when we create our own packs, we could
say that our people send it to our groups who
we know is gonna get the money to our folks.

Speaker 11 (01:07:18):
You know, that's a great example. We have a collective pack.
And I think their thing was a win with black men.
And that was when Kamala Harris was running during during
those one hundred days, and I think the I think
you hosted on one of them.

Speaker 2 (01:07:34):
No, think I did host it. But what happened was
folk got mad. Folk got mad, and I customed organized.
They got They got mad because we raised one point
five million, but we kept four hundred thousand and didn't
send it to the Hair's campaign and that and literally
one person ain't gonna name this, very proudly person got mad.

(01:07:54):
I said, oh, I'm gonna do it again, and she
was like, excuse me. I said, we don't see in
the money, and then bed for it to come back.

Speaker 11 (01:08:02):
Correct.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
We said no, we gonna see at one point one,
but we gonna keep four hundred thousand, and we're gonna
sit it and directly to black mail groups ourselves.

Speaker 11 (01:08:11):
And that's where I was going with that. So the
money that was raised during that again incredible idea because
even though you know that was a national pack, we
heard it, the floodgates opened up so much locally, like
I've heard, I was getting text from everybody like, hey
have you heard this? Pac I'm like, well, who's a
part of it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Right?

Speaker 11 (01:08:31):
Because it was those type of Yes, we had the resources,
but also it was a continuous momentum of engagement that
was happening, not only with virtual calls, but I was
getting newsletters, I was getting text messages. I was getting
more than what the National Party was doing. So I
totally agree when it comes to putting your money back
into African American organizations, because we know where the money

(01:08:54):
is going to go directly, it's going to go straight
to the district and the people that need it the most.

Speaker 2 (01:09:00):
Again, what people need to understand we don't have to wait.
That's right for a candidate to get us excited, to
inspire us. We literally can be replicating exactly what happened
when with black women, when with black men. Vice President
Conal Harris for school board races, that city races, county
counting up and racist state rep. State Senate, Congress, and

(01:09:24):
all the way up.

Speaker 13 (01:09:24):
Yeah, everybody do a google right now and see exactly
where all the senators started is normally on a county board.
Senator Mitch McConnell, he was local, right. We know a
lot of people who have or are in the race
and in the game because they started locally. So that's
really the important thing here is to teach people on
a local level how to rise up because they're not

(01:09:45):
just gonna, you know, go be a governor. You have
to have some experience. You have to show the people
that you know the roads. So what you did with
that money and what you did in terms of raising
that money and bringing people awareness of the capacity and
the power African American men and African American women, I
mean I'm still getting, you know, job newsletters from them.

Speaker 6 (01:10:06):
Like you said, what, it didn't just stop there.

Speaker 13 (01:10:08):
And that was another thing that's very important about organizing
and creating a coalition so that people understand that it's
not just about the voting, it's about other things that
are kind of trickled down and that are that you
have to be in the entrenches for in order to
make sure that democracy is working.

Speaker 2 (01:10:23):
Representing the Green again, I keep making a point out
look at numbers. Texas has the largest number of eligible
black voters in any state in the Union. Exactly sixty
one percent of Texas is minority Black, Latino, Asian American,
Native American. Yet sixty one percent of the people who
vote are white. And so it's untapped power that exists

(01:10:47):
in Texas, and that's why Republicans have a lot on
that state. And so I keep saying, if we vote
at capacity, we can absolutely change elections all across the country.

Speaker 25 (01:10:56):
Yes, and to add to the information you're sharing, whites
are less than forty percent of the population, but they
have sixty six percent of the congressional seats, and they
were going to take more. They want to add five
more to that number. So yes, but it does take
mobilizing and it also takes someone who knows how to

(01:11:17):
spend the money once we get it right, because too
often that money never goes to the black press.

Speaker 2 (01:11:23):
That money never goes to the people who know the
no blackness soldiers, no black pr people, no black people feeling.

Speaker 10 (01:11:29):
All of my thunder.

Speaker 3 (01:11:32):
But yes, I'm in complete agreement.

Speaker 25 (01:11:34):
And let me just thank you again for your bringing
this message to the masses, because too often we don't
get a chance to hear the truth about how things
are functioning.

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
After the election is over.

Speaker 25 (01:11:45):
Black people are blamed for not voting. Well, black people
didn't vote because we didn't take care of business when
we had the opportunity to.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
And that has to be said.

Speaker 3 (01:11:53):
It is so thank you again.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Concion Scott, perfect example, critical state elections in Virginia this
year by statewide positions.

Speaker 18 (01:12:01):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:02):
You talk about the House, Democrats control the House. Don
Scott remains Speaker of the House, first black Speaker of
the House in Virginia history.

Speaker 7 (01:12:10):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:10):
Then you have, of course Louise Luca's controlled the money.
On the Senate side. Uh, You've got the House majority leader,
a black woman.

Speaker 7 (01:12:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:12:17):
And so you have African American positions of power. They
maintain that power. Guess what they then can drive an agenda.

Speaker 26 (01:12:25):
And then that's you don't want to get away from
what the agenda is. You talk about all the politics
and all that, But on on the federal we have
elections in Virginia. We got to take care of business
on the federal level. Or Ellen and I serving they
can trying to get rid of the Department of Education. Uh,
equal opportunity to education is at risk. And you've got

(01:12:47):
to remember that Donald Trump appointed dozens of judges that
would not say during their confirmation hearing whether or not
they thought round By Board of Education was properly decided.
I mean, they're going to issues that we haven't heard before,
issues like we've complained about what they've done people having

(01:13:07):
financial problems. Four years ago, we had the American Rescue
Plan at who you put family of four five thousand
dollars in stimulus checks in their pockets, six thousand dollars
in child tax credits over the year, thousands more and
enhanced that benefits if they lost their job, more money.

Speaker 10 (01:13:26):
I mean, we actually if.

Speaker 26 (01:13:27):
You look at the difference between in policy, what happens
when one side is in charge and another side is
in charge. All of the work that we're talking about
getting done has an effect as a result of policy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Now, before I go to doctor Ward, the final comment
and in the midst of it. You didn't want to
talk about it, I understood, But all these faults they
killed me when they say it man it CBC ain't
doing nothing. I ain't heard nothing all this sort of stuff.
When Biden and Harris were there and Democrats control the House,

(01:14:04):
folk like you were on committees, y'all were not out
there yelling and screaming and putting stuff out. Y'all were
doing the work. But the billions that went to HBCUs,
the billying that went to education because folk like you
were sitting on critical committees handling legislation. Just explain of
people what that means. That everything is not having your

(01:14:27):
name on a bill and getting all the attention, how
you can impact public policy being a member of Congress
sitting on a committee.

Speaker 26 (01:14:34):
Well, I was chair of the committee in for four year,
for four years, and we got more money for HBCUs
than they're ever seeing the history of HBCUs. We got
more money for lowing for low income, for housing, for education,
criminal justice reform. I mean, the things you can do
when you're chairs of committees that you can't do when

(01:14:57):
the other side is running their regeneral and And that's
why all of the work that we're talking about is
so important.

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Hold on, I want people to know. I called cars
to Scott. He was like, listen, I ain't. I can't
come on right now. I'm busy right now, he said.
So we need to get all this done as quickly
as we can. We may not be here long. No, seriously,
and I mean I got it, And I said, don't worry, aboudy,
I'll take care of it. But your deal was you

(01:15:23):
weren't trying to get your name in the lights. You
were trying to get the money to the people.

Speaker 26 (01:15:28):
Well, and I was shading the Education and Labor Committee.
A million people are about to lose their pensions under
the All Time Employer Pension Fund a million.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
We fixed those problems.

Speaker 26 (01:15:41):
In the American Rescue Plan Act.

Speaker 2 (01:15:43):
Just no cuts and benefits, just fix it. And you
can do things like that and safety.

Speaker 26 (01:15:51):
And by the way, tens of thousands of businesses were
legally obligated to paying the failing.

Speaker 10 (01:15:56):
Funds, so the businesses went broken.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
But we fixed that. And those are the kinds.

Speaker 3 (01:15:59):
Of things you can do.

Speaker 26 (01:16:01):
A million people could go to bed at night thinking,
what now I've gotten my pension. Don't have to worry about.

Speaker 2 (01:16:06):
What am I I'm gonna do these.

Speaker 26 (01:16:09):
On the other hand, you can go up to people's healthcare,
you can go up to snap benefits, you can take
away their access to college. In this big, ugly bill,
your ability to go to college is seriously.

Speaker 2 (01:16:21):
Compromised absolutely, which means that if Democrats take control of
the House after next year's election, you back is chaired.

Speaker 26 (01:16:31):
That's right, and we'll be in a position to fix
a lot of the damage done. We can get the
pelgrants back up to where they have student loans. Where
they are under student loans, the payments are going to
be about double what they were under body. The Portable
Obamacare premiums going up. I've heard seventy percent when people

(01:16:55):
sign up in December because of what they did and
didn't do in the legislation.

Speaker 25 (01:17:00):
Represent you want to say, I'm going I want to
add a couple of things quickly.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Under the leadership of the.

Speaker 25 (01:17:05):
Honorable Maxine Waters on financial services, we were able to
put money in the hands of small businesses, but more specifically,
we were allocating money to go.

Speaker 3 (01:17:14):
To minority businesses.

Speaker 25 (01:17:15):
When you have a person who understands the needs of
the community, then you can move to meet those needs.
I would also add that she currently has legislation to
put one hundred billion dollars one hundred million dollars into
helping people who need money to buy a house. Right now,
young people, first time home buyers are having difficulties. They
need some subsidy to help them buy that first home.

(01:17:38):
And finally, this on the topic of voting, one vote
makes a difference. Because the big ugly steal passed by
one vote, the eighteenth Congressional District was not represented in Congress.
The governor of the state of Texas chose to put
the election off until November, and in doing that, we
will deny that one vote that would have made a difference.
I assure you a representative from the eighteenth Congression district

(01:18:00):
we're that voted against it.

Speaker 2 (01:18:02):
One vote can make a difference. I'm gonna end with this,
dr Ward. You were talking about of funding of what
happened on the local level, and I've said this literally
for years. People look at how much money it takes
to run for president the United States Senate and Congress.
The reality is, if twenty five thousand dollars is raised

(01:18:22):
on a local level, you could literally fund a majority
of the people running for school board. And if those
five people it's a none member of skill school board,
they now have the majority. They control the process. So
people need to be thinking it's different. We're not talking about,
oh my god, we got to go raised five million
dollars literally in many of these places and a lot

(01:18:43):
of these top places. There are a lot of bedroom
communities where cities where black people are the majority, and
a lot of these cities and we're not represented on
those school boards because we're not funding our candidates.

Speaker 27 (01:18:56):
Right well, I think clearly, if what we've got to
do is politics at three hundred and sixty five days
of the year, what you've just heard is you have
defined roles that everybody needs to play. Our standing members
of Congress need to do exactly what they're doing, but
we need to do what we need to do on

(01:19:16):
the ground. That's why the Alpha Pack we decided there's
two tracks to our effort. Three actually raise money, but
then train people who are interested in running for public
office how to run for public office. And then the second,
the third is what we talked about earlier. We've got
to train individuals to work in these campaigns at the

(01:19:39):
executive level to make sure that when that local school
board member wants to run that they've got someone who's
trained and prepared professionally to run that campaign, raise money,
recruit candidates, and then third have someone who can run
those campaigns. That's the mission that we've got to be about.

(01:20:01):
Especially now. Accounty Commission is very important, school board members
very important. State legislatures are very important. What we see
is just like folks did at the end reconstruction, they
took back the state House, they took back the local races,
and it wasn't until the nineteen sixties when the Voting

(01:20:23):
Rights Act came that we started turning everything back. That's
why they're going after the Voting Rights Act. That's why
they're trying to kill the Department of Education. But we
are strong people and we're going to win in the end.
People in the chat asked who can give to the
Alpha pack only, Oh, anybody can give. Anyone can give.

(01:20:45):
W Yes, sir, Www Alpha pack dot net. You can give,
and to your point, give twenty dollars, give twenty five dollars,
give whatever you can.

Speaker 10 (01:20:56):
Every dollar is important, right, so.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
Give a twenty hours Romo filter didn't give Lord, I
appreciate it. Thanks, Thank you so much modesty, Congressman Al
Green my album Brothers, I appreciate it. Thank you so
very much. And just for all your other little youth
groups out there, Henry, he Lil Omega and Terrell in
the studio here Sigma. Let me keep in mind y'all

(01:21:20):
that have more alphas in Congress than any other fraternity
or sorority. So remember who your daddy is. Henry, take
a seat, because we even dominate 'all Omagas. We'll be
right back. Roland Martin unfilter right here a Black start network.

Speaker 19 (01:21:43):
On the next get Wealthy with me jebborah Owens, America's
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Speaker 23 (01:22:09):
The Damn Thing, and she's going to be sharing exactly
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As an entrepreneurial. Color is personal building your personal advisory board.

Speaker 24 (01:22:24):
I think that's one of the things that's helped me
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that descended into deadly violence soil.

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
White people are losing their their minds.

Speaker 17 (01:22:55):
As antwory pro Trump lad storms to the US Capital
reco have to see the lies what I call.

Speaker 2 (01:23:01):
White minority resistance. We have seen white folks in this
country who simply cannot tolerate black folks voting.

Speaker 20 (01:23:09):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 3 (01:23:14):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
Every time that people of color have made progress, whether
real or symbolic, there has been but Carol Anderson at
every university calls white rage as a backlash. This is
the right of the proud boys and the Boogaaloo boys America.
There's going to be more of this.

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STAB show, Alpha BA Alpha Returney Incorporated. So we here
at the national convention in Philadelphia. Folks joining us right now.
Roy Tatum is a newly appointed chair of the Political
and Civic Engagement Committee for the fraternity. Roy glad to
have you here. Honored to be here. Let's get let's
get right to it. Bishy William Barbarer spoke yesterday and

(01:27:17):
laid out in detail the numbers. When you talk about
Georgia it's a critical Senate election next year, North Carolina
critical Senate election, and when you talk about North Carolina,
the Black Belt which is really east North Carolina and
not not fully tapped in terms of a lot of
black votes there. And so what will fraternity members do

(01:27:39):
to mobilize and organize specifically in those two states where
we could have a huge impact on who the United
States Center is in Georgia, North Carolina.

Speaker 29 (01:27:48):
One of the things I will say that the president
president of Mantello's has charged us with training all of
our chapters and engaging in the local at the local level,
So in North Carolina and Joy just specifically, I've spoken
with district directors chapter presidents to engage their chapters and
offer any level of training that they feel is needed,

(01:28:10):
and they are graciously accepted. We just had a meeting
where Congressman Scott and Congressman Green attended and it was
very well received. The mission that we are looking to
embark upon. So we're working with Voteless People as a
hopeless people and the Commission on Racial Justice, and also
as I lead the Commission on Political and Cific Engagement,

(01:28:31):
I'm where the rubber meets the road, and so basically
what we are going to do is operationalize the plans
for that Alpha by Alpha has promoted for over a century,
so chapters can engage at the local level.

Speaker 2 (01:28:43):
Because you know that all politics is local, right, but
it has to be I think granular. I was last year.
I was in Ohio. Actually I was in Ohio, I
was in Michigan, I was in different states, and I
happened to go into this black owned restaurant in Cincinnati,
and I'm sitting there and a brother's brother came up
to me. He wanted to fudo. He told me he
was frat and he said, we're getting ready tomorrow to

(01:29:04):
do to do voter registration at the football game. He
was talking about the Bengals game. And I said, why
y'all at the Bengals game? And he said, what do
you mean? I said, okay, how much time are you
going to spend the Bengals game and how many people
do you think you're going to register the Bengals game?
I said, as opposed to going down to the Board
of Elections identifying the ten largest black precincts in Cincinnati

(01:29:30):
and then pulling the data of the sea how many
registered voters are in each one of those precincts, and
how many people voted in those precincts. I said, and
then take your members and say we're going to do
block walking on the folks who actually didn't vote. And
he was shocked and stunned. He said, we can do that.
I said, yes, I said, I think you were I said,

(01:29:53):
I said, I believe that you're expending significant amounts of
energy with a low rate, lower return on that investment,
as opposed to saying, no, we're gonna focus on this
one precinct. That's to me, I think, what has to
happen in North Carolina, in Georgia. Okay, you take who
the folks who did not vote, and how do we

(01:30:15):
all of a sudden say we're gonna hit this small
town on this weekend, Saturday and Sunday, this small small
town in order to drive the vote. To me, that's
what has to happen. That's how we maximize our power
limited resources, to maximize yes resources, you just offer what
we call a data driven strategy.

Speaker 29 (01:30:36):
And basically what we're saying is one of the things
that I'm happy happy to announce, and many people may
not know this is that we have an MoU with
the NAACP and what that means is with the n
double a CP, we can utilize and tap into their
resources as well because they have access to the VAN
the Voter Access Network, which costs hundreds of thousands of

(01:30:56):
dollars to access, so that with that tool, we can
go in and see the data. We can see who's voted,
we can see who's not voted. We can see who's
registered to vote, we can see who's not registered to vote,
and we can do that by zip code, we can
do that by city, we can do that by the state.
And so for what you just stated as a precinct,
we can definitely attack low voter turnout and low voter

(01:31:19):
engagement by going to the barbershops in those communities, by
going to the grocery stores in those communities, by going
to the black church in that community, and so and
obviously tapping into the other fraternities and sororities as well,
because all of us have some level of voter engagement,
and so if we want to maximize our efforts, we
have to tap into depth de sigma theta alpha kappa

(01:31:41):
alpha or making sithi kappa alpha side as not just
alpha ba alpha, because you know, all of us together
are living in the community. We can definitely make an
impact that way.

Speaker 13 (01:31:53):
You know, I'm wondering, what is it that you do
that you think is the most effective in terms of
you know, old school we're talking about going down, you know,
door to door and collecting emails and things that nature
figure out who's not voting and is voting. But in
terms of twenty twenty five kind of a modern day approach,

(01:32:15):
would you how would you compare the two?

Speaker 29 (01:32:17):
Well, but I would say I've been in the world
of politics since nineteen ninety five, so I noticed like
to use a green bar report, to go knock on doors,
to use sheets of paper to register people to vote,
and in comparison to you accessing the van network, what
I believe has to happen is we have to have
a combination of high tech and high touch, because what

(01:32:40):
we see now many people are just leaning into the
high tech and they're losing the hoigh touch.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Oh we've sent text message? Yeah, we sent man. I
get man, I get these damn texts? Message like, Lord,
if y'all send me one more?

Speaker 18 (01:32:54):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:32:55):
But again, you you got to because here's the thing.
When you touch somebody. Yes, sister, our record show you
didn't vote. Can I ask you why?

Speaker 29 (01:33:05):
And that she may have been in the hospital when
it was time to vote, She may have been had
a car accident, or she may she may have just said, well, baby,
I forgot, or or she may say you know what,
I ain't hear from nobody.

Speaker 2 (01:33:19):
She again to me. I think sometimes you can be
so new school that you act like old school don't work,
but it does.

Speaker 29 (01:33:29):
And that's why people lean into the high tech. Plus,
it's easy. You ain't got to be in nobody face
and most people scar.

Speaker 2 (01:33:34):
You know, here's the thing.

Speaker 29 (01:33:35):
You know, people can say that they are supportive of
a certain candidate until you get into their face and
say why why why do you support this candidate or
why do you think this candidate is better than another candidate?

Speaker 2 (01:33:48):
And they really can't.

Speaker 29 (01:33:48):
Explain to you why they bought into that person's brand
or they bought into that campaign's brand, But they can't
give you a policy point to why they're supporting that campaign.
And so when we are able to hit the street
with talking points, with policy points, with what are the
consequences if you cast your vote in this direction, then
we can influence people in how to vote.

Speaker 2 (01:34:10):
And if being very here you obviously, if they're moving
as an organization, they can endorse. But what they can
say is on these four issues, yes, sir, this candidate
agrees with this, this this candidate does it. Ma'am.

Speaker 29 (01:34:27):
Here you go right, And that's absolutely that's allowed the
approach of Political and Civic Engagement Committee and this Social
Justice Committee that Alpha filefas foremant we are not candidate based,
we are not personality based.

Speaker 10 (01:34:40):
We are issue based.

Speaker 29 (01:34:42):
So we will have positions on education, we will have
positions on diversity, acuity and inclusion. We will have positions
on physics and entrepreneur development and leadership. We would have
positions on the environment and climate. And so these are
the things that we plan to take to our local
elected officials, our state elected officials, and obviously will ultimately
have an Alpha Advocacy Day on the Hill, which we

(01:35:05):
definitely want to invite you to a participated in.

Speaker 2 (01:35:07):
Brother before I go Terras, as somebody said this, Stephanie
Humphrey says, why do voters have to hear from somebody
to vote? Well, first of all, my folks don't vote.
Last election, ninety million people to not vote, That's sure.
The reality is there are people who are living lives,
who are doing things they don't necessarily vote. As simple
as that, Teresa, go ahead.

Speaker 11 (01:35:27):
You know, it's so interesting that the Republicans kind of
put this out and meant it for good on their end.
But hearing from you and I guess what you guys
were talking about during the conference, And how are you
going to be reactivating your alphas in all these areas.
I'm just in all, yeah, right, you know, I don't
have to and I'm sure people don't have to be

(01:35:49):
a member because we're females of Alpha by Alpha fraternity.
But I'm sure they're going to be local things that
are happening in the districts where me and Candice could
get involved in everyday folks. So for me, you know,
I see the Republicans doing this as a way to
make sure that they are in office. But I think
what they did is actually reactivated the civic engagement portion.

(01:36:11):
Because of what they've been doing these these last couple
of years to hurt our people into rollback efforts. I
now see this is an opportunity for us. I'm just
very excited what you just said.

Speaker 29 (01:36:22):
I'm excited too, because we're forming a community. We have
a community that people are excited to be engaged in
the civic engagement process. Not everybody knows how to engage
and so that's why I think we see some low
voter turn out a low engagement. People are intimidated to
go to the city council or to go to the
state legislation by themselves.

Speaker 2 (01:36:42):
But if they can go with a crew, you know,
they can go say, hey, where are your colors?

Speaker 29 (01:36:46):
Where you are, where your alpha tie, where your alpha blazer?
We all have those, and you know we want to
wear an alpha blazer and so and then we can
put talk and give them the talking points of the fraternity.
They're excited. And then on top of that, find a
person that represents you, who's a person that represents your
neighborhood as we talk about the state legislature, and then
they know they know who to talked to and they

(01:37:08):
have their talking parts. So we look forward to to
this kind of activity all across the nation.

Speaker 13 (01:37:13):
Yeah, I saw the Alpha blazers out there. It didn't
matter with ninety degrees. They were like, we got them
on and we're gonna help you win.

Speaker 2 (01:37:19):
That's right because we called so they heat them.

Speaker 13 (01:37:22):
But you know, I'm wondering, how do you really get
to a young person though, because you're not going to
be in their algorithm if they're not clicking on you.
So how do you really get to that eighteen twenty
four year old, that one who's not in school learning
exactly like they have to go outside of school to
learn what you are giving, But how do they even
find out about you? When I have students that will

(01:37:43):
be on here for eight ten hours a day and
if you're not in their algorithm, it doesn't resonate. And
I'm wondering. And this is where you come in.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Yeah, you know, how do you connect that good combination
of high touch.

Speaker 6 (01:37:57):
I love this high touch thing.

Speaker 11 (01:37:59):
Yes, we have to meet the people where they are,
but I also think we need to listen to the
issues of young people. They got their own issues right,
that's happening throughout their lives, right from curfews to you know,
jobs to you know, access into centers before the age
of eighteen, you know, like, so they also have their
own concerns. And what we've been seeing, especially on these

(01:38:21):
mass media platforms, is that millennials, gen X, genoy I
hate the whole generation, but the eighteen to twenty four
age they have been activating their voice through social content
and I think having some of those activators will also help,
but also get them more informed and educated as they

(01:38:42):
put themselves out there.

Speaker 2 (01:38:43):
Well, those folks, but let's speak, those folks ain't just
staying in the house, so they also still going outside,
which means that you still have to be at those
events communicating and sharing with people. But I do think
it is important. I don't care what the age is
where you actually ask folks first, what is it that
you care about? When people come up to me all

(01:39:05):
across the country, I don't care whether I'm at a
convenience store, it could be in an airport, it could
be walking down the street and somebody's like, man, what's
going on? I can't believe this? And I want to
do something or I don't know what to do, and
I always start this here, what are the three things
you care about? Then they go what do you mean?

(01:39:27):
I'm like, there's something you care about? What are the
three things that you care about? And when I hit
them with that, then they're like this this this At
a brother, he was like, I care about education. I
was like, got it? I said you got kids? He said, yeah,
ho old are your kids? You tell them? I said,
youre in the PTA. He said no. He said how
do you care about education? And he went damn. He's like, damn, dag,

(01:39:49):
you hit me straight. I said no, seriously, I said,
how can you tell me that one of your three
issues is education? But you're not even in Pta. I said, so,
I said, I need you to answer this. Who do
you think is going to save education if you are
not involved? And he was like, man, I ain't never

(01:40:11):
thought about it like that. I'm like, precisely. So part
of the problem is people are looking for somebody else
to do something, and so I think by asking that,
now you're forcing them to define those three things. And
now you're trying to say, but what you're gonna do? See,
that's the that's the the challenge there. And then when
that happens, that now changes the conversation because now they

(01:40:32):
have to be a part of the solution. But you
can't do that unless you touch somebody, Which is why
I believe the precinct, the precin block walking is so
critically important when you talk again and tailoring your time,
I just don't believe in just sort of these sort
of this broad thing's supposed to like no, no, no, no.

(01:40:55):
If I could move fifty votes in this precinct and
fifty in that, and I got to remind people Obama
won North Carolina in two thousand and eight by fourteen thousand,
one hundred votes. It was literally less than one vote
for precincts say, he won the state. And so that's

(01:41:15):
what we're talking about. The woman who justin got elected
to the North Carolina Supreme Court, she won by seven
hundred fifty five votes, Sherritt Beaston. When she lost the
state Supreme Court the Chief Justice race, she lost about
four hundred and one votes, four hundred and one and
it was more than one hundred thousand Black people in
North Carolina who didn't vote. In fact, I was Bishop
Barber and I were talking, we were texting today and again,

(01:41:41):
this is the dad that he presented yesterday. I'm about
I'm about to mess y'all up. In Georgia, one million,
sixteen thousand Black people in Georgia did not vote. Trump

(01:42:01):
won by one hundred and fifteen thousand votes. In North Carolina,
six hundred and sixty one thousand and black people did
not vote. Trump won by one hundred eighty three thousand.

Speaker 11 (01:42:15):
Our silence is literally killing us. Our silence is literally.

Speaker 2 (01:42:19):
Killing six hundred and sixty one thousand North Carolina. One million,
sixteen thousand in Georgia did not vote. Overall, ninety million
people didn't vote. Forty percent of black voters nationwide did
not vote. Even with a black woman on the ticket.

(01:42:47):
Seventy percent of white evangelicals voted for Trump, and Mike
Johnson is the Speaker of the House, and he speaker
of the House seven thousand votes. They won the seats
that gave them house. They won those seats by seven

(01:43:09):
thousand votes. That's why every little it that twenty here
and thirty here, that's the election.

Speaker 12 (01:43:18):
Two things, the twenty here and thirty here.

Speaker 13 (01:43:21):
You know how we do We tell twenty and thirty
other people, So it's not just the twenty and thirty, right,
it grows, and that's how we talk. But the other
thing is this we have such a serious messaging problem,
and that even when you say those numbers, if I'm
someone who doesn't really understand the power of my vote,
and I'm going out on a day to day in
my community and I'm being treated like I do not

(01:43:43):
count and I have and I'm being told I did
not count because I didn't get the loan, i didn't
get the house. I can't you know, my loan has doubled,
you know, for my student education. My kids, you know,
might be on opioids. I don't have insurance. All of
that is very very defeat and I think that that's
the balance that we are dealing with the messaging really

(01:44:04):
and things that you're doing. That's why it's so important
because you continue to hear that message, then you can
fight the other messages that people are continuing to tell
even us on any given day.

Speaker 12 (01:44:13):
But we kind of have different tools in order to
deal with it.

Speaker 13 (01:44:15):
Well, that life be lifeing exactly exactly, that's exactly.

Speaker 29 (01:44:20):
So the thing is with our votes, our voice, Yeah,
make our lives better.

Speaker 12 (01:44:25):
Yeah, And that's the translation that I don't think a
lot of people get.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
But that's why I keep saying the organizations have to
actually do it. That's right, because what happens is if
you're waiting for the candidate to do it, then it's
not going to happen. And so that's why what I
keep saying to the organizations, this is where we can
fill the gap because again, we are self funded, we
can handle our sales, we can be control of that,
and we don't have to ask somebody's opinion when we

(01:44:50):
do it. We're not asking some whites campaign strategy. Right
when I ask them, hey, please, pretty please, can we
do this? We're like, yeah, we're going here. And that's
why I keep saying to people, you want to give money,
all right, give money to groups that are actually doing it.
When you support Black voters Matter, we know that money
is going to vote on the ground, it's going to

(01:45:12):
black owned media, it's going to black strategies. That's the
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Live in Philadelphia at the Alpha BA Alpha Attorney Incorporated
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We are glad to be here, of course, talking doing
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not only with Alpha, but also just with all of
the stuff uh that we are covering as well. And
so we are just again glad to be here. So
let's talk about a couple of things folks, Uh, and

(01:50:39):
y'all know, we always talk about the importance of black
owned media, and the reality is we are living in
a very different time today. We see what is happening
within this landscape dwindling voices, if you will, especially if
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w R Radio has had to deal with that. They
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from point five to one percent. Okay, I want to
tell you what is it that's all black on media.
That's take your pick, that's Urban one, that's Black Enterprise,
that's Essence, that's everybody point five to one percent. Now,

(01:51:41):
many of these companies have market share that black market
share is twenty thirty forty percent, So their spend does
not compare at all to how Black folks are supporting
their products. And so that's what's going on, which also
means that black folks have to be stepping up to
support black on media. Joining us right now to talk

(01:52:02):
about what's happening at w r D is the host
of Evening Words, doctor James Peterson. Glad that he can
join us. Of course, still have my panel here to
reach a Lundy Kennis Kelly joining us as Andy Perre,
chief political strategist, founder of Fox and Line Communications. Glad
to have you here with us as well, James, to

(01:52:24):
take us through because I mean, look, w r D
is fighting a good fight. WVO in in Chicago fighting
a good fight, and folks are always saying, oh my god,
I love listening to Word, love listening to v O
N Oh my god, Roland, I really love your show.
And that's one of the reasons why, Like when I
purposely said, Yo, the power is gonna cost us eighteen

(01:52:47):
hundred dollars, that's that's that's.

Speaker 3 (01:52:49):
The lights are bright, bro, the lights are bright.

Speaker 2 (01:52:53):
You damn right right, because I paid for some good
ass lights. You're absolutely right. Those lights cost grant, you know.
But again, I do that because I need people to
understand that this stuff don't just happen. It costs money
to run a media enterprise.

Speaker 3 (01:53:11):
It does, it does. I mean, there's a happy, slightly
happy ending to our story.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
Roland.

Speaker 31 (01:53:15):
First of all, thank you for having me on and
thank you for supporting WRD, especially through these tumultuous times.
But WRD serves the black community here in the city
of Philadelphia, and as you kind of you might imagine,
during the twenty twenty four presidential cycle, everybody was coming through.
They all, yeah, come to WRD. Everybody wanted to come
on WRD. But that's great. We did that work. We
continue to do the work folks know that because it's

(01:53:38):
been publicized in the media that we had to lay
some folks off. That's above my pay grade, Sarah, Lol.
Max and the low Max family, who owned the station
and have operated for twenty plus years, had to make
some tough decisions because of a.

Speaker 3 (01:53:49):
Lawsuit that's been filed.

Speaker 31 (01:53:51):
I'm not really authorized to speak of all the details
of it, but some of that has also been published
as well.

Speaker 2 (01:53:54):
Lands. Yeah, we won't to talk about here on the show,
and so and so the layoffs happened.

Speaker 31 (01:53:59):
But the good news is is that we we We
did a fundraising campaign just about a month ago. We
set a modest skull of twenty k for the month
of June. We raised almost seventy thousand dollars in that
in that campaign. So a lot of those folks will say, hey,
we love to listen to WRD. We love what you
guys are doing. Some of those folks, five, that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
Was your campaign for June. When was your number for July?
That's an excellent question. And what's your number of August?

Speaker 3 (01:54:25):
That's an excellent question.

Speaker 31 (01:54:26):
That's that's not what I think that our team was
excited about the community being galvanized energized in that one
particular moment. I'm sure we'll see more WRD fundraising.

Speaker 2 (01:54:37):
No, no, no, no, no, it has to happen. I mean,
I'm seriously listen people, people. I love when these haters talk.
And I don't really give damn bout haters. Oh man,
you always begging for money. I'm like, because bills.

Speaker 3 (01:54:50):
Are monthly, yes they are.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
The raality is that in my in my office, we
don't we don't have regular Wi Fi. That's right, we
got fiber.

Speaker 10 (01:54:59):
That's that.

Speaker 2 (01:55:00):
Fiber costs me twenty five hundred dollars every month, whether
we are in it or not. And so I'm and
so I purposely put that out there because what happens
is I don't I don't like, I don't want our
people only supporting us in Christ when the when the
when the glass has been broken in case of emergency,

(01:55:21):
it has to become a regular thing. And that has
to be be there because people say, o again, y'all
really important, what you deem important is how you spend
your money.

Speaker 3 (01:55:31):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:32):
And if you think that Starbucks every day is important,
the reality is if you don't drink Starbucks for a week,
you can give that to w r d's or to
this show, to some other black o media, that's just real.

Speaker 31 (01:55:46):
And I would just add to that role in that
that concept is at a premium right now. You see
what they did to Colbert, right, I mean, they're crushing
Descent and and and there's a lot of ways in
which there are a lot of ender rounds to undermine
black media.

Speaker 3 (01:55:58):
There's a lot of different ways to do it.

Speaker 31 (01:56:00):
But we do need our communities and our people to
come out and support out of their pockets on a
regular basis. If you like what black media does, if
you understand the importance of the voice, the interventions that
we can make in these critical times, you got to
come out and support.

Speaker 20 (01:56:12):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
First of all, let me let me let me clarify,
you like what black own media that focuses on news
and information. That's right, because Andy, part of the issue
that I have, but I make this all the time,
is that we support a lot of bullshit. No, I
don't care. We's like everybody knows, I despise ZEUS Network,

(01:56:36):
but they've got thousands upon thousands of people who pay
that money every month to watch bullshit. Yet when stuff
jumps off, oh man, we ain't know. We ain't know
because yeah, you were watching bullshit, and so we have
to we have to go there. I see see doc.

(01:56:57):
You like damn bro. But the reason I have to
say that is because we are bemoaning today. Man, what
happened to Jet what happened to it and all sort
of stuff. The media landscape has changed, and so we
just have to sometime just put it out there and
challenge our folks to say, we gonna need you to
support you. God, go go speak to that. So holding

(01:57:20):
my phone up.

Speaker 32 (01:57:23):
So the thing is we black media has played a
very big role as far as our success is politically
and black owned, black owned.

Speaker 2 (01:57:33):
Now keep making that distinction because there's black media that's
black targeted media that we don't own. This is true.

Speaker 32 (01:57:39):
So now in Baltimore City, per instance, like they're like
Fox News pretty much controls our city right now when
it comes down to media, black media, black owned media
out Baltimore.

Speaker 2 (01:57:51):
Yes, right, So the Black Player Television owns the Fox affiliate. Yep,
that same guy bal to Baltimore's Sun and he uses
that the hammer the mayor constantly in Baltimore.

Speaker 3 (01:58:04):
Exactly, Mayor Scott.

Speaker 32 (01:58:07):
And so now the thing is is that black media
is generally the only outlets that that are talking about
the good things that is going on that the black
leaders are doing. They're you know, like when you look
at the other media outlets, if it's bleeding, it's leading.
And so it's like, doesn't matter what progresses we make

(01:58:27):
unless we are supporting and we're looking at what the
black media, black OneD media outlets are putting out and
we're clicking their links and we're sharing their links, then
we will always continue to be buried and will always
continue to complain about the fact that we're not getting
the opportunities that we should be getting.

Speaker 2 (01:58:45):
See Theresa, it is a mistake that people realize they
don't really make. So my grandmother own a catering business,
and so the reason I the reason I have the
view that I have because I watched it. I watched this.
They lived eight blocks from us, all right, so I
would alays be there after school. My brother and I
started with a cateran business. We were seven eight years old,

(01:59:07):
so I knew what it was like to sit on
the couch. The bride's daddy or the grooms were sitting
there with me, we watching TV and the bride and
her mama in there with my grandmother booking the wedding,
and I would sit there and I'm talking about the book.
It might be four or five six hours, and they
sitting there going through everything. I'll run up, do we

(01:59:28):
gonna do silk flowers, fresh flowers, We're gonna do glass, plastic, Well,
we're gonna all this sort of stuff. And nearly every
time they'll sit there and get to the bottom. My
grandmother got her got her legal pad, and then get
to the bottom, and it might be fourteen, fifteen, seventeen,
eighteen thousand, and then folks, luck, oh miss Lamon, I'm sorry,
you know all we had we just had about six thousand.

(01:59:49):
Why y'all asked to come in here and tell me
you had six grand And I sat here and spending
all this damn time. And so that's how so I'm
watching that because here, here's what I understood. My grand
my mother could not charge what she needed to charge,
and she didn't, which means that she paid us less.
That impacted her being able to run her business. And

(02:00:10):
so that ain't high road do it. So people call
me and they like, hey man, we would love for
you to live stream this event, Okay where, Oh it's
gonna be in this city? Gotcha? How long? Okay? Hit
the number or we can't. That's bigger than our budget.

(02:00:30):
I'm like, we won't be that now. I say that
because folks are always asking can you cover this? Can
you cover this? Can you cover this? And I literally go,
you do know that stuff costs? And I told you
I'm petty. I have the database of all thirty six
thousand donuts. I will run your name and I'll be

(02:00:53):
like this person that's never supported our show, but you
want me to show up to broadcast for your event
at a discount? Yeah, you know, Rolling, You're totally right.

Speaker 11 (02:01:05):
And you know, as a fellow business owner myself, you know,
I think when it comes to wholesale deals, we can
only do but but so much right at a certain time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:16):
But when you have black owned media from.

Speaker 11 (02:01:19):
The top on bottom, like you know, if we look
at the quality and excellence that from I've been a
part of this show for over four years now. I
had to do the math the other day and seeing
it from a team of two to evolve from ten plus, we.

Speaker 2 (02:01:35):
Didn't have right, we did have the cinematic we got
in that pass college, that five thousand dollars flop.

Speaker 11 (02:01:44):
Absolutely absolutely these are new right. But but as you grow,
as you grow, so and that's the point. So again,
and I can only take from my experience of seeing
you know, Roland just open the door of opportunity, right.
I was brought in by a friend, that friend introducing
and and you can't not have a voice when when

(02:02:05):
you're sitting alongside of.

Speaker 2 (02:02:07):
Rolling you know.

Speaker 11 (02:02:08):
But what I will say is the growth has come
like just as a very fast paced and it's incredible
to watch. So when people are reaching out and you know,
looking at a camera here, when you're reaching out and
asking those you know to bring that same funk, that energy,
you know, it does it is a cost because what

(02:02:29):
you don't want is somebody to come there and they're
not giving you that excellent quality. So I totally get it.
It's the same thing with our services. I have a
nonprofit rate, I have a corpor rate, and I have a.

Speaker 2 (02:02:43):
We got a rate because the invoice ain't too invoices,
they were going to step it up, you know. Well,
I just of course, and I need people to understand
why why I'm so hardcore on this, because if w
r D disappears, if vo In disappears, if the Philadelphia

(02:03:09):
Tribune disappears. We already see right now how we've been
decimated in black and black on media. That's why folks
sit here and I have been saying for two decades now, Candice,
we will rule the day when we do not have
black on media and we're having to go ask somebody

(02:03:30):
white for permission. Can y'all please cover our stuff? That
is not a day we want to see.

Speaker 13 (02:03:37):
No, and it is not a day that's going to
happen in this administration. And when we talk about Stephen
Colbert or PBS or anybody else who is going through
financial struggles, let's talk about Trump and suing the Wall
Street Journal and Trump and suing and winning against ABC

(02:03:58):
and Trump doing paramount, which we know is connected.

Speaker 12 (02:04:02):
To Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 13 (02:04:03):
When we look at that, we know that diversity of
thought is something that the powers that be do not want.

Speaker 12 (02:04:10):
And the emphasis is on the word.

Speaker 13 (02:04:12):
Power, because they have the power to tell of Stephen
Colbert that you're going to be off the air. But
the other thing is that we have to understand the
numbers and that when we talk about media like you,
we are talking about Stephen Colbert on a good day
was averaging two point five million.

Speaker 12 (02:04:31):
Brotherand we know your numbers are good. We know your
numbers are that good too.

Speaker 13 (02:04:35):
People have to understand once again the power that they
have in order to go out there and do on
their own. But it has to be black owned media
or else somebody can come and shut you down because
the shot and the white boys down.

Speaker 2 (02:04:47):
Because see on the radio side, you had w b
LS New York. So when Inner City broadcasts, the person
setting the family owned it. But then when they got sold,
guess what they flipped that format media and what was
a black radio station became a sports station, it became
something else. And that's the thing that people have to understand.

(02:05:09):
And so I want our people again not to respond
in a state of emergency. It has to be consistent
and continuous.

Speaker 31 (02:05:17):
Yeah, I mean, we're talking about the sustainability of black
owned media, and I think that's always been a challenge.

Speaker 3 (02:05:23):
Rolling you've done incredible work, as you know.

Speaker 31 (02:05:24):
Also the benefit of being a second generation entrepreneur, being
in the room and hearing those things in your own
family helps prepare you. And I feel like we need
to understand, like maybe we started this race a little
bit late in this country when it comes to meeting,
when it comes to ownership.

Speaker 3 (02:05:37):
But now it's like at a premium. We got to
get caught up.

Speaker 31 (02:05:40):
And that sustainability that we're talking about is like listen,
we engage the community. We get a lot of requests
to come out and do live remotes as well, without
people fully acknowledge with the cost of coming out of
your live remote.

Speaker 3 (02:05:50):
We try to do those things as much as possible
to stay engaged.

Speaker 31 (02:05:52):
But some of this is about giving our community the
critical media literacy to kind of understand what the context is,
because again I believe people will support as long as
we tell them what it is, what we bring to
the table, and.

Speaker 13 (02:06:05):
As long as you ask, and you got to get
that PBS model, you gotta ask.

Speaker 12 (02:06:09):
You literally have to ask. Yeah, we don't have to
tell you, but.

Speaker 2 (02:06:14):
Essentiously, I mean, and because this is one of the
things that and I've had to have this conversation with
other people is they're like, man, well, you know, I
don't know. I'm like, your ass want to be out
of business? No, I mean no, I mean, I know,
I have to be hardcore people like that, because the
reality is is it all cost? And what happens is

(02:06:35):
in too many of our cases. And I tell black people,
there's constantly we love to talk about and we we
we carry it as a badge of honor. Man, we've
done a whole lot with little I ain't trying to
have that conversation.

Speaker 7 (02:06:54):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (02:06:54):
I don't want to survive conversation. I want to thrive
conversation and so and so like when we started. So
when we laid out it actually really was I said,
we're gonna do it for profit, but it really was
taking a nonprofit model by saying we were a fan club.
And when I started, I also made clear and I
don't know exactly how y'all are doing it, but I
ain't gonna This is how I did. I said, listen,

(02:07:16):
Lee Clip, we ain't sending you no stuff. When no,
I was like yo, I said, if I gotta, I said,
if I gotta send you hats, Mudge told bad I said,
swag costs money. Post just costs money. So the reality
is if you gave fifty dollars, I said, it might
be ten dollars left. So I said, when you when
you send money, you're investing in the show, and what

(02:07:38):
are you getting? You're getting this two hours a day,
four other shows, plus the live stuff that we covered.
So when people are watching us cover this congressional hearing
or this live event, they don't realize that I have
to pay Associated Press one hundred fifty grand a year.
When people say, man, I love the app, that's one
hundred and forty thousand dollars a year down the cost.

(02:08:01):
Because people need to understand that this stuff is real.
So when you give folks like, oh my goodness, man,
I love you guys, it's not a sprint of below
you new vehicle. Yeah, that was two hundred and eighty
four thousand dollars and so that and so so we
can't do what we do if the support is not there.
And again that's how that's how we have to be.

(02:08:21):
And so it's critically important at folk in Philadelphia support
the station because and we also have to we also
have to be hardcore and telling the folk, yeah, I'm sorry,
we're not gonna be that. No, Seriously, I ain't got a.

Speaker 3 (02:08:39):
Problem saying no, we can't make it happen.

Speaker 2 (02:08:42):
No, No is a complete sentence.

Speaker 3 (02:08:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 31 (02:08:47):
Yeah, I think it's a delicate balance. Rolling between delicate
for I think for us the delicate balance because number one,
remember Philadelphia's porst big city country is.

Speaker 2 (02:08:56):
It is it is no hold on, no, no, no no,
see right, see dot up. See you're gonna make me
first of all, what little youth group you in.

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
This is why they said, this is why I couldn't
be on the show.

Speaker 2 (02:09:07):
What's that? What's that? I can't see it moment? What's that?

Speaker 1 (02:09:11):
Five?

Speaker 2 (02:09:12):
Because I don't even read it.

Speaker 13 (02:09:16):
Right?

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
See them right now? See him mistaken? So seriously, this
is the mistake you just made. One April third, nineteen
sixty eight that the King said in Mason Temple's last sermon.
He said, in the vigually black people are poor. He said,
collectively were one of the largest economies in the world.

Speaker 3 (02:09:34):
With our question.

Speaker 2 (02:09:34):
So the mistake that we make when we start with
the premise we're poor, no we're not.

Speaker 31 (02:09:40):
Let me finish, bro I wasn't. I'm not coming from
a definicis model. I'm to give you some context and
give you some context. The poverty rates in Philadelphia do
matter in terms of the communities that we serve. We
got you serving some of those communities, right. The organization
is nonprofitent otherwise that work with them are sometimes our
partners in the work that we have to do.

Speaker 33 (02:09:57):
Got you.

Speaker 3 (02:09:57):
It is a delicate balance to.

Speaker 31 (02:09:59):
Serve the community on the shoe string budgets of black
owned meetings and.

Speaker 2 (02:10:03):
And what I and what I'm saying and what I'm
saying is that's cute, but I disagree because the bottom
line is this here. Bomb line is this here. If
somebody says, man, I really love what y'all do, can
you support with one dollar?

Speaker 3 (02:10:19):
Exactly? Exactly?

Speaker 2 (02:10:21):
See, you can't keep telling me, man, this is so valuable,
this is so needed. And I'll literally say, can you
not buy one soft drink for one There are people
who give us one dollar a month? Wow, that one
dollar is just as powerful as the person that gave

(02:10:44):
me a thousand, because if one hundred people give me
a dollar a month, that's twelve hundred dollars a year. See.
So and when we do that, person like damn man,
never thought about it. Yes, I'm asking you, if you
think w r D it's so valuable, I'm asking you
not to buy a bag of chips once a month. No, no, no,

(02:11:07):
that's how we have to reduce it. And a person's like, damn,
I ain't never really thought about it like that way.
To me, that's how we have to do it. Because
if you say it's that important, but you don't buy
one bag of chips somebody, that's all I asked. You
don't buy that's two thousand and seventy nine cents bag
of chip throw in tex So I'm asking you send

(02:11:27):
us three dollars.

Speaker 12 (02:11:29):
Some expensive chips. Lord have mercy. But that's the truth.

Speaker 13 (02:11:33):
But you know what, I think there's also people need
to understand this whole idea of legacy media and that
what word is, what you are, what you are, the
seeds that you planted where you're twenty nineteen when this
eighteen seven.

Speaker 2 (02:11:47):
Years and sixty.

Speaker 6 (02:11:48):
Yeah, so this is a new type of legacy media.

Speaker 13 (02:11:50):
We talk about legacy media, we're talking about NBC, but
this really is a legacy media. And if people understand
how far that goes and what the images of seeing
ourselves on television or on YouTube or wherever you might
see them on the handheld, how that translates. Because we
know what the media has done to the black community
and how.

Speaker 2 (02:12:09):
We're portrayed, well, legacy is also changing. So yeah, exactly.
So w So, for instance, I wouldn't call w r
D a radio station. You're not a radio station, it's
a platform. No, you're a media company because you're doing audio.
But in this digital world, you can also be doing video.

(02:12:30):
That's right. You can actually you can utilize AI to
take what is what is spoken, turn those inter written stories.
Now you have that, So now now you completely are changing.
You're gonna weigh beyond exactly just that one particular media
and that's the world that that's just the world that
we're living in.

Speaker 3 (02:12:48):
So now the truest credit word is doing that. Word
has the app.

Speaker 31 (02:12:51):
My show is on Facebook, Word Radio, Twitch, every you know,
we're it's definitely doing that.

Speaker 2 (02:12:56):
Holover y'all, Hold lover, y'all, y'all on Facebook, yell on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (02:12:59):
We have our YouTube page is not as active as no.

Speaker 2 (02:13:03):
No, no, y'all. Y'all need to y'all need to stop
wasting time. Facebook recommend hip absolutely first of all. First
of all, first of all, uh face. Facebook demonetizes black news.
They demonitize black content. If you're doing entertainments and goofy shit,
oh that's still fund that. But if you're doing news,
absolutely so y'all should be driving your folk to your
YouTube channel because YouTube's model is much more content creator friendly.

(02:13:27):
Second of all, is the largest video platform in the world.
Netflix is number two, and so once you hit a
certainnumn of hours and viewing hours on YouTube, you now
qualify for the YouTube ad program. So what I do
is all if you for our TikTok, our staff, chat,
our our Instagram, we drive everybody everybody to our YouTube

(02:13:49):
channel to drive that uh and uh and then because
again that's because that's a program that you could call
it literally passive income, but that's going to generate far
more revenue. The check that we get every month from
Facebook is a joke. It doesn't even retally compare you check.

Speaker 3 (02:14:07):
You know, you're talking above my pay grade Rolland I'm
a host on w.

Speaker 2 (02:14:13):
You're host, but right now you're the this for the watching.
And I'm trying to tell y'all don't be on tell
everybody on Facebook YouTube because again you can drive more
revenue there than you can on face. But again that's
understanding how the platforms are moving and work here. At
the end of the day, it's about driving revenue to

(02:14:34):
keep doing the work.

Speaker 13 (02:14:36):
It is right, right and I also find that when
you are in that position, see you know all the
things because you should know all the things about the AI,
that's right. But but but you should also know the
things you know why, because you should know what it
means to you know, create a version of yourself and
type in the wording and there you are talking. I

(02:14:57):
spent eight hours one Saturday going through all the apps
I hear people are talking about, you know, mid Journey
and the AI and you know, you can make a
version of yourself and I type myself in and there
I was, and the words that I typed, I saw myself,
but I wasn't really saying the words, but I was
able to create an image of myself saying those words. Eventually,
those types of things that you learn, they have a

(02:15:17):
place somewhere with what you're doing. But you do have
to get everybody caught up on what's going on in
the AI world and what's going on with all these
platforms credit.

Speaker 31 (02:15:26):
You know, there's been professional development in that space for
all the journalists learning how to use AI as a
tool and all the work way, Sarah, they do a
great steward of the business for sure, when it comes
to those things. I think that there has to be
some adjustments, and there are already adjustments. Obviously we had
to lay some folks off. But in terms of leveraging
the right social media platforms that YouTube pieces, right, I

(02:15:46):
know that there is a YouTube platform for WRD, but
all the rhythms on Facebook, now that's I don't even
know that, but it should be made. Yeah, organizations trying
to expand what they're doing in terms of their footprint
on social media.

Speaker 2 (02:15:57):
Yeah, I mean, listen, we know how the world is again,
the world has shaned. It is a completely different world
than we are used to and I just want our
folks all right. So yeah, so here's the deal. Y'all
got a WRD at fifty seven hundred subscribers on YouTube,
let me see, y'all had a toll of eight hundred
and ninety two thousand views. So WRD already qualifies for

(02:16:21):
the YouTube ad Monization program. So y'all should be in it.
And so I'll say this here when it comes to
YouTube shorts, y'all don't don't spend a lot of money
trying to do YouTube shorts, cause from a financial standpoint,
it's about twenty five cents per video to watch ads
actually generate more money, but the YouTube shorts does drive subscribers,

(02:16:44):
and so all those things work together. And so this
is the stuff that has to be happening, because I'm
literally having a conversations with a black newspaper that's going
all digital in October and walking them through what that
now means to be all digital, how they have to
build out their digital platform to survive in the future
because the print product is no longer there. You want
to go ahead and say something, so and what you're

(02:17:06):
to add on to what you're saying. It's like a
lot of.

Speaker 32 (02:17:12):
The market penetration that has to happen in order to
reach the black voters. It has to like the black
owned media needs to start investing in that mostly because
people don't want to go look for information. They wanted
to come to them, right, And so that's where the
black on media needs to do a better job at

(02:17:32):
putting that information, putting that intel.

Speaker 2 (02:17:34):
Where people are exactly. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I'm so.
I was like, man, you should feel a site. Hell no, no, no, no, no,
we're gonna go where they are. When I started this,
people thought I was crazy. I said, no, no, no,
We're gonna stream here here here. I did where they
already are and build that way, and they thought I
was crazy. That's it because you got to spend a
ton of money trying to market Spider to come over here.

(02:17:55):
That's not how people using content. And so I just
need people to understand, no matter what year in if
you've got it black on radio station, you get a
black media product, understand they're covering things that other people
are not covering. And I'm I'm telling you we're seeing
right now there's not a single black on media that

(02:18:16):
has a congressional correspondent. And I told the CBC this.
They were like, we come out of our CBC meetings,
there's no black on meeting there. I'm like, do y'all
know what it costs to pay CORESSI? I said, do
y'all know what it costs to pay a congressional correspondent?
I'm like, do you understand that? I said, Oh, by
the way, the federal government spends one billion dollars a

(02:18:37):
year on advertising. Black on media gets one percent of
the federal advertising dollars. I said, so, I said, and
I literally I said to the CBC, I said, if y'all,
I said, if if y'all, I said, if we got
I said, let's just say ten percent black on media
gets ten percent of federal minds one hundred million dollars,
I said, if we got two million of that one

(02:18:58):
hundred million, I said, I can have three correspondent hired
in ninety days. Wow, wow, I said, three correspondents and
an editor. I said, the pay for the whole team.
I said that two million, I said it in ninety days.

Speaker 3 (02:19:12):
There's no question of.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
Anybody went quiet. I'm like, yo, so don't so, I'm like, so,
do understand this is the reason why you're not seeing
black correspondents, why you're not seeing black writers.

Speaker 11 (02:19:24):
Or you're seeing correspondence get hired and then they're getting fired.

Speaker 12 (02:19:27):
All in the same times.

Speaker 11 (02:19:29):
We've seen CNN, we've seen NSNBC hosts. Now they're trying
to start from scratch, right, and it's yeah, it's for advice, right,
and there's a cost for that, right. So But but
I think again, if they originally own their voice, right,
it is that much they could have said, because you're
under a parent company where there's a whole bunch of

(02:19:51):
rules and regulations.

Speaker 2 (02:19:52):
That you can say.

Speaker 11 (02:19:54):
But if they thought about like the partnership right of forming,
you know, those relationships with independent black on media early on.
Now that they're free, now that they're free agents, I
think that can also go a long way to just
ensuring a better path of the educational value for our communities.

Speaker 2 (02:20:15):
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Support all right, then well appreciate it. Thank you so
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Speaker 3 (02:20:28):
I appreciate you and appreciate the work you do.

Speaker 2 (02:20:29):
Thanks a bunch. You gotta go to a quick break.

Speaker 3 (02:20:31):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (02:20:32):
I'll go check with our panel about how Trump's Trump's
trump aculture now scream black farmers. I keep telling all
y'all fools who said Trump O'Connor were the same, y'all
were dumbasses.

Speaker 3 (02:20:44):
I'll be right back.

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The meshuld you imagine national Democrats like identifying themselves as
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Mm hmm.

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H Coast Alpha Alba Steps show is live and full effect.
Come on, Anthony to get that camera straight. All right, Uh,
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see uh Reverend doctor Frederick Douglas's hands just rolled through
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(02:23:10):
you the were you the step master when you were
at Uh?

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God, we are for us, We are for us.

Speaker 35 (02:23:15):
And see people are talking about rolling and say he
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Speaker 2 (02:23:21):
Like Roland let.

Speaker 3 (02:23:23):
Row is the step master. All right, we learned from rolling,
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Speaker 2 (02:23:30):
First of all, we're talking about all the craziest going on.

Speaker 10 (02:23:33):
Earlier we had.

Speaker 2 (02:23:34):
Doctor ward on talking about the Alpha pack right uh
and how they're gonna be raising money uh now looking
at local races as well, not just the national races.

Speaker 14 (02:23:41):
That's it.

Speaker 35 (02:23:41):
And it's so important because I mean, as you already know,
Trump is targeting especially in Texas, Houston and Dallas, and
especially our girl Jasmine Crockett in terms of trying to
get rid of her because he can't handle her i Q.
And so as a consequence, he's attacking her going after Houston.
But we ain't gonna let that happen. And so the

(02:24:02):
Alphas recognized what Malcolm said, you don't control your politics
unless you control your economics. So we're controlling the money.
So we can say something about the politics.

Speaker 2 (02:24:12):
All right, man, always good to see you and you
cleaned as always. Well you know, you know, I try.
I just I threw a little something moment.

Speaker 3 (02:24:20):
I want to see you out here.

Speaker 2 (02:24:21):
Yeah, I've got that Charlotte. All right, y'all real quick here.
Of course, of the Trump the USDA screwing over farmers
of color, ending a thirty five year program that gave
target assistance to farmers of color, even dropping the phrase
socially disadvantage. To comply with Trump's order, the USDA ended
this diversity efforts across fourteen programs, canceling thirty six hundred

(02:24:45):
contracts in grants, claiming it would say, five point five
billion dollars is directly impacting black farmers, who make up
less than five percent of the nation's farm owners. And
I mean, look, I don't know how many times we've
had to say this can this, But we kept telling
these fools, this is gonna happen. And listen to some

(02:25:06):
of these simple Simon Negroes telling us Kama wasn't really black.
Trump really was bad. It wasn't as bad as we thought.
We just being hysterical while y'all trying to scare us.
We survived him the last time, we survived slavery. We
can survive this time. But they real quiet with all
this anti black stuff happening with the racist in the

(02:25:29):
Oval office.

Speaker 12 (02:25:31):
And you know what that tracks.

Speaker 13 (02:25:32):
Here's somebody and her people who had everything written down
in Project twenty five. Like you said, we've seen this,
We knew this was going to come. We knew that
this was going to be where we were. I just
don't think people believed it. Anything that has to do
with DEI, anything that has to do with you're giving
me more in order to make up for what you've
done for me, done to me. Because the history of

(02:25:54):
this country is all going away right before our eyes.
Now is the time for people to really really pay attention. Now, listen,
if I were those black farmers, here's what I would do.
Just yet, in terms of legally speaking, legally speaking, Trump
that administration. They don't want anything DEI. They don't want
anything being decided by race or gender or ethnic origin.

(02:26:18):
All right, well then, and they want everything to land equally, well,
all right, then show us those numbers. Then it's got
to be you know, what is the average, what's the
percentage of black folks?

Speaker 2 (02:26:28):
And then what's actually stop they stop collecting racial data.

Speaker 13 (02:26:31):
So you won't they stop collecting racial data. But in
terms of how it lands, if you are not going
to actually actually put somebody out there, the.

Speaker 2 (02:26:42):
Track is no data, so you you will not be
able because it happened last time, you will not be
able to know how many fewer contracts we got because
they're not collecting any racial data.

Speaker 13 (02:26:54):
Well, then that's going to be the responsibility of the
organizations right to do it on their own, because that's
going to be key in order to rising up and say, well,
this is why we are We were asking for these numbers,
and this is why DEI existed.

Speaker 2 (02:27:07):
See Andy, what I have been laying out. This was
shortly after the inauguration. I laid out I said, I
need you'all to understand, this is a concerted effort to
defund Black America. They want to attack the civil rights
infrastructure and the economic rights infrastructure because that is the
underpinning of Black America. That's what they're doing. That's their target,

(02:27:29):
that's their goal.

Speaker 32 (02:27:32):
That is definitely their target. Is definitely their goal, and
we're not collateral damage.

Speaker 2 (02:27:38):
We are a target.

Speaker 32 (02:27:39):
Now it's mostly African Americans immigrants and women who are
the main targets in this thing. And with what they're
doing with black farmers, that's a very concerted attack on
black generational wealth because correct me if I'm wrong, a
lot of these black farms have been in the families
for generation. And so when you take away the support

(02:28:02):
for the black farmers, you are actively trying to reduce the.

Speaker 2 (02:28:07):
Amount of black wealth.

Speaker 32 (02:28:08):
I mean, you can't buy a piece of land and
start farming in the city all willy nilly.

Speaker 2 (02:28:14):
And of course, and now we see Trump talking about
threaten to sign in executive order limiting nil money. Oh,
they can't stand all these young brothers and sisters getting
paid all this money. It's some mad white boosters. They
want to go back to that old system of Teresa.

Speaker 7 (02:28:30):
You know what this.

Speaker 11 (02:28:31):
Reminds me of the clear marketing strategy of make America
Great again. And what again meant was, you know, black folks,
black on plantations. We were, you know, strictly in poverty.
The masters were overseeing us and telling us to do
our job. When it's start, stop, wake up fleet, who

(02:28:51):
to be with and who to marry. So I see
this as again we can go back to you know,
how great America was, and I think it was when
black people were actually in position. But that again word
for me is always the underlying you know, dog whistle
that says all of the things that you thought you

(02:29:13):
were going to win, all the things that you thought
you needed to actually succeed, and to help the next
generation of leaders actually get by, we're actually going to
snatch that away. So you know, I think we're at
a very pivotal time. You know, all of us outside
of Rollers, probably millennials really, so you know, all of

(02:29:34):
these things that are happening right now are just in
real time, is going to affect our generation. And so
it is like so apparent for us to not only
steadfast pay attention, educate others, not just always had to
education ourselves, but educate others, bring them on board, and
also activate right And so I think, you know what
I've heard for the last two hours now is Rolling

(02:29:58):
bringing up our congression leaders, our pack leaders, our organizational leaders.

Speaker 6 (02:30:03):
And they say, we have a plan.

Speaker 11 (02:30:04):
So I think it's like really up to us to
figure out how do we make sure make America great again?

Speaker 2 (02:30:09):
Don't put us back to the nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 12 (02:30:12):
So you know what, Nil did.

Speaker 13 (02:30:13):
It removed a hierarchy because now the ownership is not
fully by them.

Speaker 12 (02:30:18):
People get to own who they are as.

Speaker 13 (02:30:20):
Well they should be because they were bringing in billions
of dollars for schools.

Speaker 2 (02:30:23):
Anyway, you literally have brothers and sisters making ten, fifteen,
twenty million dollars in college.

Speaker 6 (02:30:28):
Pulling up for the same cars as owners of NFL lo.

Speaker 2 (02:30:31):
Joe the sister, she played basketball at LSU. I saw
a podcast she was going off saying food stopped blowing
all your money. This sister's still in college. She said,
I bought twenty acres of land with her nil money.
There you go, and the corporation that she started. She's like, oh, no, no, no,
She said, this money gonna last me for a long time.

(02:30:53):
And that's what they don't like because understand why they
want to attack the nil money because now you're going
to have educated black athletes absolutely who have to now
learn financial literacy in high school.

Speaker 14 (02:31:06):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:31:07):
So now that's why you got a brother who who
who finished with Texas A and M, who got drafted
by the Cincinnati Bengals. He has been signed because he said,
oh the language and the contract y'all changed to the last,
I'm not signed that contract. So when you so, when
you make three, four, five, six, eight ten dollars in college,

(02:31:28):
they're not used to used to that broke black athlete
who desperately wants to get drafted by his mama house. Well,
he already bought a house, right, he bought he about
three So they are they so they don't know how
to handle this financially financially educated, liberated black athlete who says, oh,

(02:31:49):
I ain't got to go to the pros. I can
stay in college one more year and make more than
that rookie deal, right right. That's what's messing these cats up.

Speaker 6 (02:31:56):
And they created a legacy.

Speaker 2 (02:31:57):
And the reality is, I don't know what the help
jurisdiction Trump has thinking that he can stop nil money
when that state he ain't got no power. That's another
one on BS. One of BS executive orders.

Speaker 6 (02:32:10):
You know, sign exactly. That's exactly what it is. That's
exactly what it comes down to.

Speaker 2 (02:32:14):
That's all it is. All right. Let me thank our panel.
I appreciate y'all being on the show. Lem we think
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