White Ala. Mayor Apologizes For Black Woman's Arrest, Haiti's Chaos, Trump's Mental Health

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Today's Tuesday, March twelve, twenty twenty four, coming up on
Roland Martin Unfields, streaming live on the Black Star Network.
A South Alabama mayor apologizes for a black woman who
was forcefully arrested in her home after complaining about her
white neighbors loud music. She says she was arrested because

(00:33):
she challenged the white officer's motives. C rit's attorney, Harry
Daniels will be with us to discuss this case. Fireworks
at the Capitol Hill during today's House This Year committee
where Republicans hope to spotlight President Biden's diminishing mental health,
Democrats said, We're gonna wane up you and show you Trump's.

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Folks is crazy.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
North Carolina case proves why your vote matters. The GOP
run not as they shore try to strip the governor
of his appointments to election boards.

Speaker 2 (01:10):
But a three judge federal panel to.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Republicans and one Democrat found that the Republicans were wrong
and folks, uh, it is craziness. In Haiti, the Prime
Minister has resigned has resigned, gangs are in control of
Port of Prince will be joined by the Miami Harrald's
Award winning Caribbean correspondent Jacqueline Charles to break down on

(01:35):
what is actually going on.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
There, lots to talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
It's time to bring the funk on Roland markin Unfiltered,
the Black sid Network.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Whatever it whatever it is factified, Anna please, he's right
on top and is rolling. Best believe he's knowings lost
in politics with entertainment.

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Just bookcase, he's stolen. It's Rolden, he's pronus, she's real.

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Good question, No, he's rolling.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Mont hard folks.

Speaker 1 (02:40):
So today on Capitol Hill, Uh, the Special Prosecutor look
into into the documents case of President Joe Biden. Classified
documents case testified. Robert Hurr resigned yesterday from the Department
of Justice. He was aided by lawyers close to Donald Trump.
That tells you right there and say from his perspective,

(03:01):
and Republicans were prepared to show the mental deficiency deficiencies
of President Biden. Oh, but Democratic Representative Jerry Natler he
had something waiting for them.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
He rolled this video out.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
The Department of Justice gave Trump every opportunity to avoid
criminal charges again, in the Special Council's words quote, after
being given multiple chances to return classified documents and devoid prosecution.
Mister Trump allegedly did the opposite. He not only refused
to return the documents for many months, but he also
obstructed justice by enlisting others to destroy evidence and then

(03:43):
to lie about it. Close quote. Why did the president
charge former President Trump but not President Biden? Not because
of some vast conspiracy, not because the so called deep
state was out to get him, but because former President
Trump was funded mentally incapable of taking advantage of even

(04:03):
one of the many, many chances he was given to
avoid those charges, Which brings me to the second distinction
this report helps us draw between President Biden and Donald Trump.
Simply put, President Biden had the mental acuity to navigate
this situation. Donald Trump did not.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
Much has been made of.

Speaker 6 (04:26):
A special Counsel's gratuitous comments about the President Biden's age,
but let's set the context. After returning every classified document,
after opening his home to federal investigators, while simultaneously managing
the first hours of the crisis in Israel, President Biden
volunteered to sit through a five hour interview with the

(04:48):
special counsel. I believe, as is his habit, that President
Biden probably committed a verbal slipp ority during the interview.
And I'm not sure any of that matters, because when
the interview was over, mister Herr completely exonerating President Biden.
And then there is Donald Trump.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
What kind of man bungles not one.

Speaker 6 (05:11):
But dozens of opportunities to avoid criminal liability? What must
that say about his mental state? Here too, the record
speaks for itself.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
One of the great memories of all time.

Speaker 7 (05:26):
James Webb, I.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Don't remember in the names, don't remember the name Victor Orbond.
Did anyone ever hear of him?

Speaker 7 (05:32):
He's the leader of Turkey?

Speaker 8 (05:33):
By the way, they never report the crowd on January sixth,
You know, Nilly Nicky Haley is in charge of security
three years.

Speaker 7 (05:40):
Lady, ladies, lady, how about that?

Speaker 9 (05:42):
Did you actually have a one on one with Komyha?

Speaker 7 (05:44):
Not much, not even that I remember.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
We have languages coming into a country. We have nobody
that even speaks those languages. They're truly foreign languages.

Speaker 3 (05:53):
Nobody speaks of Taudi, Arabia and Russia.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Worry peat, Duke, I have a good memory. Your next
wife was a woman by the name of Marlon Maple.
You recalled what years you were married to Ms Maples.
It's called like up here, and it's called memory, and
it's called other things. So you don't remember saying I

(06:17):
don't remember that, and Putin.

Speaker 8 (06:19):
You know, I have so little respect for Obama that
he's starting to throw around the nuclear worter.

Speaker 7 (06:24):
You heard that nuclear We have to win in November
or we're not.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
Going to have Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 (06:30):
They'll change the name.

Speaker 2 (06:31):
I talked to Putin a lot.

Speaker 10 (06:35):
Because you ask him that, I don't remember that.

Speaker 7 (06:37):
You know, I saw that this morning. I don't remember
asking him that Tace have.

Speaker 11 (06:40):
A good memory and all that stuff, like a great memory.

Speaker 2 (06:43):
For twenty years they were fighting Isis. I defeated Isis
in four.

Speaker 8 (06:48):
Weeks, and we did with Obama. We won an election
that everyone said couldn't be one. I'm not cognitively and
you know what what I am. You're gonna joy You're
gonna be the first wee I know much. People you say,
all right, Trump, you did a good job. Get the
hell out of here.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
That's it.

Speaker 6 (07:09):
That is a man who was incapable of avoiding criminal liability,
a man who is wholly unfit for office, and and
a man who at the very least what to think
twice before accusing others of cognitive decline.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
So it wasn't just that you also had, of course
Republicans trying to play the whole gotcha game. And then
they also showed how her himself, you know, has his
own issues. In fact, remember when his report came out,

(07:48):
all of these stories, I mean tons of stories in
the Washington Post, tons of stories that were in the
Wall Street Journal, New York Times MS the multial acuity
of President Biden, how all he couldn't remember well when
they released the Department of Justice released the transcripts, and

(08:10):
it gave a whole different understanding. Well, Eric swallwell, he
actually had a few questions for her about this very
issue of Biden's memory.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Watched this exchange he'd in.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
Your report, though, Is that correct?

Speaker 12 (08:26):
The word photographic that does not appear in my report?
I now want to show you and play a video
of what is absolutely not photographic.

Speaker 8 (08:36):
In the failing New York Times by anonymous Trillian nymous
Scutlass Coward. We're a nation that just recently heard the
Saudi Arabian Russia. I hope they now go and take
a look at the oranges on the oranges of the investigator,

(08:58):
and I watch our police and our fireman down on
seven to eleven, down the World Trade Center. And we
did with Obama, we won an election that everyone said
couldn't be one. This is the very definition of total territism.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
And let me begin by.

Speaker 7 (09:13):
Wishing you a beautiful wilegs.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
Look you remember this, Do you remember God bless the
United The windmills are driving them crazy, They're driving they're
driving them.

Speaker 11 (09:25):
The general whales, I think a little battie and I.

Speaker 13 (09:28):
Went to Puerto Rica and I met with the President.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
Of the.

Speaker 12 (09:33):
The appeared in your report, though, is that correct?

Speaker 1 (09:36):
The word photographic that does not appear to so I thought,
I thought that was I thought that was quite interesting
how Swallwell jammed him up on that. But again, on
this whole thing of photographic memory. I'm gonna pull his
video here for go to my panel. Y'all are gonna
love this one, because again.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Uh, it goes to show you.

Speaker 1 (10:01):
How these folks operate, goes to show you how they
think and how Again, this whole thing was about how
they could try to attack the credibility of President Biden.
And what it also showed, though, is that Robert Herr
himself has his own issues with this particular report. Now

(10:28):
Here'swallwell hitting him on something that showed up in the transcript.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
But not in his report.

Speaker 12 (10:37):
Watch this, President Biden, you have appear to have a
photographic understanding and recall the House. Did you say that
to President Biden? Those words do appear on page forty
seven of the transcript.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
Photographic is what you said? Is that right?

Speaker 12 (11:00):
Word does appear on page forty seven of the transcript.
Never appeared in your report though, Is that correct? The
word photographic? That does not appear in my President Biden.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
So here we go.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
So it was in a transcript, but it wasn't in
his report. Springing my pound. Doctor Mastaphas Antilogo Lee, former
Senior Advisor for Environmental Justice at the EPA, coming to
us out of DC.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Doctor Larry J.

Speaker 1 (11:22):
Walker, Sister professor of University of Central Florida, joining us
and John Quelt Neil, trial lawyer with a John quellt
Neil Firm out of Atlanta. John Queler want to start
with you first. I mean, look, first of all these
congressional hearings, they're always about theater. But what's interesting here
is here you have this special prosecutor who drops this report,

(11:43):
and he basically says in this report that O. Biden
is so frail, that's why I could not prosecute him,
how awful his memory is. But then you get the transcript,
and then you see he says photographic. In the report,
he says that he could not remember when his son died.
In the transcript, he remembered the month and the day.

(12:05):
It's perfectly clear that Robert Hurr issued a BS political
document meant to injure President Joe President Biden as opposed
to it being a real document to assess whether or
not he broke the law.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
When it comes to classified documents.

Speaker 14 (12:25):
Well, you know Roland as a prosecutor, right and also
a lawyer, he is very well aware of the consequential
nature of what words he is using in specific documents, right,
because specific words have specific legal consequences. And so it's

(12:45):
interesting instead of just stating, you know what you said
the obvious, and it came up during the hearing that
he chose to use inflammatory language and also to describe
his mental health in a generalized manner, right, when it's
my understanding there were only specific things that he may
not have been able to recall exact dates and specific

(13:08):
exact things, but he talked about him in a general nature.

Speaker 2 (13:12):
Right.

Speaker 14 (13:12):
But there's also you know, with a lot of crimes,
you have the intent factor, right, you have the men's
raya factor, and so you know that's also something to
keep in mind. He could have worded it in a
in a different way and kept it very objective, but
you're right, he used inflammatory language in a way that

(13:33):
was meant to embarrass the president that he knew would
be public and that he knew would come out during
the course of this election.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
And Mustafa he knew what was going to happen. He
knew the press was going to run with it. And
so again, when you issue a report, but then now
you have the transcript, it's a whole different deal. And
I want to play this for you because I thought
this was this was really hilarious where you had this
one report publican who was mad that they actually release

(14:05):
the transcript. Watch this here, give me one second, I'm
gonna set this up. This year is Dan Representative Dan
Bishop of North Carolina.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
Watch this because I've just found something. But we've only
had a little bit of time to look.

Speaker 15 (14:19):
I don't think it serves this process well for the
Justice Department to dump these transcripts into the public right now.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Oh so it doesn't serve the public, mustafa for the
DOJ to dump the actual transcripts of hers five hour
interview with Biden.

Speaker 11 (14:37):
Really well, they want you to believe a certain narrative.
So I would ask everybody.

Speaker 10 (14:42):
Who watches this show to actually go out and look.

Speaker 11 (14:46):
Up Psychological Operation PSYOPS, because that will help you to
understand this game that is currently being played where folks
are intentionally moving certain information in front of you to
believe a narrative, which is often a false narrative. It
is something PSYOPS has been done for years in the
military sort of situation. And you see these dynamics playing out.

(15:10):
You see folks on the GOP side that are utilizing them.
You see these folks who are trying to get you
to believe things that may not necessarily be true. So
if you don't understand this game that's being played and
the tools that folks are utilizing to get you to
actually it's interesting. Folks even tried to do this with

(15:31):
January sixth, where they tell you the things that you
actually saw with your eyes did not happen, and it
has been playing out time and time again, and many
of the various items that they try and move forward
and try and manipulate folks. So for me, it is
a part of that sort of paradigm that they are
using to try and fool people and to get you
to not believe the truth.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
David, go to my iPad. Larry Matthew Gertz tweeted this.
The Washington Post ran thirty three stories about Biden's mental
fitness in the four days following the Her report. He
then says, the Wall Street Journal ran seventeen days about
Biden's mental fitness. After reviewing the transcript, the Washington Wall

(16:14):
Street Journal concludes it shows Biden quote veering into frequent
digressions but not stumped on basic factual questions the Washington
when he said about the Washington Post. After reviewing the transcript,
they concluded that Biden quote doesn't come across as being
as absent minded as Her has made him out to be.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
Close quote, Larry her.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Did exactly what he and the Republicans intended. That is,
put the men put, as Mustapha said, put the mental
image in the minds of people. This man is old frail,
can't remember anything, He's walking around like a zombie.

Speaker 2 (16:53):
That was their goal from day one.

Speaker 1 (16:56):
Here you have a total of fifty stories in the Post,
in the Journal, and now once they see the actual transcript,
it's like, yeah, that's not quite what we reported.

Speaker 16 (17:09):
And so the damage has already been done, yep. And
the important thing to keep it remind rolling that this
report is a political hit job, that's all it is
during an election year, and what we found, you know,
with her obviously, you know, for Republicans, this certainly didn't
turn out the way they expected it to. And I
think last week when you saw President Biden with the
State of the Union, he offered essentially a counter narrative

(17:32):
to these ongoing dozens of articles written by major newspapers
from east to west coast talking about his mental acuity.
And so once again, after all the damage is done,
you barely hear a peep from the Wall Street Journal
posts and all these other you know, major newspapers. They've written,
like you said, numerous articles not only on it as

(17:53):
it relates to the report, but just generally looking for
the small, slightest pause from President Biden and suggests that
something is wrong with him. He doesn't have the capability
to be president of the United States. And that's why
I'm glad the Democrats offer the counter narrative in terms
of those clips of former President Trump, who we've seen
over the last several weeks several times confused individuals misspeak.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
Or slur his words.

Speaker 16 (18:17):
So once again her report was a political hit job.
They thought it would continue, it would reinforce the narrative
is already out there. The other thing is Worland is
really important for these major newspapers is they keep falling
for the banana and the tailpipe. These stories are constantly leaked,
but they don't have any way to verify this information.
So if you can't verify something this serious to suggesting

(18:37):
the president of the United States does not have the
ability to understand what's going to remember dates and other
specific information, you should not report it, or at least
you should report.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
It with context. And they're not doing this.

Speaker 16 (18:49):
And once again, Roland, we're doing the same thing we've
done we did four years ago, eight years ago in
terms of these newspapers, in terms of reporting stories that
are not true and then they're own, they don't retract it,
and it's just like it never happen.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Here is Congressman Ted lou Watch this line of questioning.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Check this out.

Speaker 17 (19:06):
I'm going to ask you a series of questions. Ask
no questions. There are not trick questions. They're simply designed
to highlight what you already found in your report, which
is that there are quote material distinctions end quote between
President Biden's case and mister Trump's case. So here's my
first question in your investigation. Did you find that President

(19:27):
Biden directed his lawyer to lie to the FBI?

Speaker 2 (19:31):
We identified no such evidence.

Speaker 17 (19:33):
Did you find that President Biden directed his lawyer to
destroy classified documents?

Speaker 2 (19:37):
Nope?

Speaker 17 (19:38):
Did you find the present Biden directed his personal assistant
to move boxes of documents to hide them from the FBI?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Nope.

Speaker 17 (19:45):
Did you find the President Biden directed his personal assistant
to delete security camera footage after the FBI asked for
that footage?

Speaker 2 (19:52):
Nope.

Speaker 17 (19:53):
Did you find that President Biden showed a classified map
related to an ongoing military operation to a campaign aide.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
Who did not have clear arrants? Nope?

Speaker 17 (20:01):
Did you find the present by to engage in a
conspiracy to obstruct justice?

Speaker 5 (20:05):
No?

Speaker 17 (20:05):
Did you find the present by to engage in a
scheme to conceal Nope. Each of the activities I just
laid out describe what Donald Trump did in his will hole,
mishandling clouds information, and his criminal efforts to deceive the FBI.
In contrasts, President Biden handed over documents without delay and
complied fully with investigators. Mister Hert and your report, you

(20:26):
write that, quote, according to indictment, Trump now only refused
to return the documents for many months, but he also
started justice by enlisting others' story evidence and then to
lie about it.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
End quote.

Speaker 17 (20:37):
You also say that, if proven, these would be quote
serious aggravating facts.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
End quote.

Speaker 17 (20:42):
Do you still stand by your analysis?

Speaker 2 (20:44):
I do?

Speaker 11 (20:45):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:46):
I have a few more.

Speaker 17 (20:47):
Questions as well. In your investigation, did you find the
President Biden set up a shell company and covertly paid
one hundred thirty thousand dollars in hush money to an
adult porn star.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Nope?

Speaker 17 (20:58):
Did you find that present by and to direct his
lawyer to pay one hundred and fifty thousand dollars on
hush money to a former playboy model?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Nope? In your investigation, did.

Speaker 17 (21:06):
You find the President Biden called the Georgia sector estate
demand to demand that he quote find eleven seven or
eighty votes. No, did you find the President Biden devised
a scheme to organize a slate of fake electors to
undermine a free and fairy election.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, did you find that?

Speaker 17 (21:23):
Leading up to January sixth, twenty twenty one, President Biden
urged his supporters to travel with DC and to storm
the Capitol.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
Nope, thank you.

Speaker 17 (21:31):
Each of these activities I laid out describe what Donald
Trump did, his efforts to bully election officials, over throning
results of election, and to see the American people. That
is why Donald Trump has been indicted and not just one,
not just two, not just three, but four criminal cases.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
I go back, and that's how you do it.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
All right, folks going to break when we come back.
May them in Haiti? The prime minister has resigned. What
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Speaker 1 (24:16):
Folks absolutely made him. Going on in Haiti as we speak,
the Prime Minister Ariel Henry has announced he is going
to resign.

Speaker 20 (24:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (24:27):
Of course, you have gangs that are controlling Porter Prince.
The country was thrown into turmoil with the assassination of
the country's president. His wife was implicated in that. Others
were involved as well. Folks who played guilty been sent
to prison. It is one huge problem after another. Let's

(24:50):
turn into the Miami Miami Hero Winning Court Careerman correspondent
Jaquelin Charles to explain really what's going on there?

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Jacqueline.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
You've been covering this country for a very long time.
You know that ins and outs. What the hell is
going on a mess.

Speaker 21 (25:06):
It is a very difficult period right now in Haiti.
As you mentioned, the Prime ministry yesterday announced it he
will step down.

Speaker 18 (25:13):
This was, you know, the Miami Hero.

Speaker 21 (25:14):
We broke the story about a week ago when he
was locked out of the country coming back from Kenya
after signing a deal to get some king and police
into Haiti to lead a multinational security support mission that
has to support the US. But at that point the
country was blowing up. There were no international flights, all
the airports were shut down.

Speaker 18 (25:34):
Ari Henry was on a plane going to.

Speaker 21 (25:37):
The Dominican Republic where he had hoped to take a
helicopter to go into Port Prince and the Dominican said,
you can't land. And as he turned around and was
headed to the US territary Puerto Rico, the Biden administration
sent to a memo for ask PM Henry and in
there basically we need you to work on your resignation
and they had a step by step well he part

(26:00):
of the request was.

Speaker 18 (26:01):
For him to go to Jamaica and resign.

Speaker 21 (26:03):
He did not go to Jamaica, but the Jamaicans basically
came to the Haitians in the sunset yesterday in Jamaica,
Secretary of State Blincoln, he flew there.

Speaker 18 (26:12):
Tideau was on video.

Speaker 21 (26:14):
Seven Caribbean prime ministers were also present, and the Haitians
were still locked out of their country because of the
closure of the airport due to no flights. They were
on video conference and after seven hours they decided on
a transitional plan, a seven member presidential council that will
choose a prime minister to replace arielan Henri and then

(26:38):
ready the country for a multi national security support mission
if and when it comes, and we can talk about
that in a minute.

Speaker 18 (26:45):
And then elections.

Speaker 21 (26:46):
This is a country that hasn't had elections in seven
years for President Joevlmoyez.

Speaker 18 (26:51):
When he was assassinated on the seventh of.

Speaker 21 (26:53):
July twenty twenty one, he had not held not one
election during his four years in office. It's been almost
three years since he was killed, and that plunge Hady
into a huge, deep crisis you name it, political, humanitarian,
and the gangs have basically stepped into that power vacuum.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
This is the tweet from Secretary of Blinking that he posted,
Haitians cannot wait any longer for a path.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
To security stability. And democracy.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
The United States and the Carrico more support a clear
political transition plan led by trusted representatives of Haitian society.
So you talked about this presidential panel if you will
to pick a leader. But that's one thing that the
problem that you still have is how do you control

(27:47):
security wise of the country. How do you gain control
of a situation where frankly, you don't know can if
you can trust the Haitian Armed Services or the police.
You've got the gangs as well. You've been on before
talking about who is behind these gangs. You know who's
funding them, So who the hell can anybody trust?

Speaker 21 (28:10):
Well, that is a debate and a discussion today because
even though you had a number of Haitian political and
civic society actors involved in this call and they signed
off today, what I'm hearing is said there's disagreement. First
of all, people are saying seven members plus two observers
that you can't govern with that. Then there are concerns
about who are the representatives.

Speaker 18 (28:30):
That will be on this panel. Even though there are criteria.

Speaker 21 (28:33):
You cannot have been convicted of a crime or indicted,
You can't be sanctioned by the UN. You can't be
a candidate for the upcoming elections and you have to
support a security mission.

Speaker 18 (28:43):
But what we're finding is.

Speaker 21 (28:44):
The same issue as the Prime Minister have found, like
there is disagreement.

Speaker 18 (28:48):
This is a society. It's deeply polarized.

Speaker 21 (28:50):
There are some individuals who say, you cannot ignore what's
happening in the streets, you cannot ignore the politics. But
at the same time, do you want to bring the
gangs to the negotiating table nation and the pressure for
the Prime Minister to step down came as gang members
said he better has stepped down over gonna wage a
civil war.

Speaker 18 (29:08):
It came as gang members.

Speaker 21 (29:09):
Targeted key government institutions see airport. They orchestrated two prison
breaks of the two largest presidents. There are five thousand
people right now on the streets of Porter or Prince.

Speaker 18 (29:20):
Some of them are murderers, they're.

Speaker 21 (29:21):
Kidnapped, some of our people who indicted in the assassination
of the president, and people who are innocent or who's
never gone before judge and they've been in jail for
like ten years. This is a country where the institutions
are broken or non existent, The government is weak, and
there is not one elected official twelve million people. You
mentioned the police, well you don't even have nine thousand

(29:43):
police officers. I mean their police stations were overtaken by
the gang at the beginning of these violent attacks. At
least six police officers have been killed. Others have fled
because they just can't. I mean, it is a very
difficult situation. And imagine you're living here. You're seeing Jesse imachines.
I mean people are frightened, people are scared. You know,

(30:05):
the heavy gunfire that doesn't stop. They don't know what
to do and they can't get out. The roads are
blocked by gangs, and the airport is not functioning.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
So listening to you walk through that, there's nobody to trust.
And so you can have this panel, you can do this,
but what the hell happens? And clearly the United States
does not have the credibility in Haiti to come in
and be a mediating voice.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Correct.

Speaker 18 (30:38):
I don't agree with that.

Speaker 21 (30:40):
I think that what's happening here is Haitians have an
opportunity to decide on their future and to think about
the twelve million people who do not have a voice.

Speaker 18 (30:49):
In the last three years, we've seen huge changes.

Speaker 21 (30:51):
People went from I don't want an international force, you know,
and thinking about all the previous times that there was
a quote unquote occupation, Well, now people recognize that the
police can't do it by.

Speaker 18 (31:01):
Themselves and they need help.

Speaker 21 (31:03):
And let me just say to you that this is
a police force that was stood up by the United States.
It is financed mostly by the United States, and it
is our US arms at Bargo that determines how many guns,
what kind of guns they can have, how much ammunition.
But yet the guns and the ammunition that the gangs
are having access to, most of it is coming, you know,
from the US. So people who ask why does the

(31:24):
US have a role in hair, well, it's you know,
it's our policies that you know that are driving this.
I think that the difficulty of this in Caracom and
US and Canada they have to be commended.

Speaker 18 (31:35):
They try to get everybody in a room.

Speaker 21 (31:36):
They asked them for one plan, and the Haitians send
seven to nine plans. And so what you got today
was the cobbling of trying to get some sort of
a broad section of Haitian society. But how do you
get a broad section when people are living in misery?
People are going hungry. People are not thinking about voting.
They're just thinking about getting to the next day. You
don't know when your neighborhood is going to be rated

(31:58):
by these armed groups. I mean today there are over
three hundred and sixty thousand people who have been forced
out of their homes by these armed gangs. As a
result the shutdown, people are running out of potable water,
electricity is scares you go into the stores, the shelves
are bare because over fifty percent of what Haiti receives,

(32:19):
you know, comes from outside of the country.

Speaker 18 (32:21):
So this is a very difficult situation.

Speaker 21 (32:23):
And again there's not one elected official you know, in there,
So there's a lot riding on this panel. And hopefully
they think about, you know, the very people in the
streets that they say that they want to govern, and
think about how do you start to ameliorate the situation
for them.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
Well, that's why I talked about again the credibility. We
know the history of the United States, first of all,
more than one hundred years ago, frankly intervening in the
Haites affairs in nineteen fifteen, taking money out of the country.
We know what happened when it came to aristide we've
had back and board Papa Doc, Baby Doc.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
I mean, so you have the history, you use the
Clintons name.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Some folks in Haiti, that's that they that's a great name.
Other people say, oh my god, no, they stole millions
from Haiti. And so does the United States. Again I'm
saying is I mean, it's it's it's everything. So the
question is here, does the United States have credibility in
the country? Is there an individual, is there a group?

Speaker 22 (33:30):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (33:31):
You know, unfortunately, you know, Randall Robinson is no longer
with us.

Speaker 1 (33:34):
You've had African Americans who have who are very vocal
about what was happening there, who have relationships there. How
do you come to some form of agreement so it's
not total chaos?

Speaker 21 (33:50):
Well, you know, I think that's what the international community,
especially Kara com tried to do yesterday. I mean, first
of all, interesting enough you mentioned you we've had African
Americans who've been vocal. We have not heard much from
the CBC, the Congressional Black caucause we're not hearing from Republicans.
I mean, Kenya is the only country that raised your
hands because the US is not going to send troops,
and some people are saying that only US troops are

(34:11):
going to stend this tide of violence because the gangs,
that's all they're afraid of.

Speaker 18 (34:15):
But the US it says that's off the board. So
you have four choices today.

Speaker 21 (34:19):
Send US troops, which Biden administration says we're not going
to do, sending UN peacekeepers, which requires you to go
and not get a veto from from China and Russia
and we know what acts like, or you know, try
to get this Multinational Security Support mission from Kenya. But
the Republicans in Congress are saying to the Biden administration, well,
we're not sure about this untested planet you're trying to do.

(34:41):
And we got all these questions and weing back and forth.
I mean, the administration initially promised two hundred million dollars.
They've requested fifty million, and they can't even get fifty
million to get this thing off the ground.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
And you're your fourth, well the first when you said
the administration, you mean the United States, Yes.

Speaker 18 (34:56):
To the United States.

Speaker 21 (34:57):
You administration has acted, you know, has asked Congress to
release fifty million dollars so that they can start to
do the planning for this this Kingyan force led force
and it's a thousand police officers from Kenya that will
serve as the backbone of a multi national security support mission.
So from the minute this, you know, Kenya raise their hands.
It's faced legal challenges in Kenya. Henri was actually in

(35:19):
Nairobi signing this agreement when the gang saw it and
they basically blew up because they say they don't want
an international force coming into the country and they also
want amnesty.

Speaker 18 (35:29):
So you know, we're putting this on the US.

Speaker 21 (35:31):
But at the end of the day, with the US
and the international community has done, they've been talking about
a Haitia led solution. They said, okay, you said that
we're in your business. We're doing this, we're doing that.
So this is your opportunity to step up into lead.
And for three years they've been telling the Haitians to
figure out, figure it out, and then this week was
you know, pay dirt. And instead of coming together and
saying here's one plan, you sent in seven and eight.

(35:53):
So when you see that there's a nine member or
seven member panel, however you want to do it, you
know we're saying, well, how is this seven presidents?

Speaker 18 (36:01):
I mean, who's going to be in charge how long
are you going to be in charge?

Speaker 21 (36:05):
Look, I mean, they've got to figure it out, because
it's not about the people running the country, it's about
the people living in the country.

Speaker 18 (36:11):
And today it's misery.

Speaker 1 (36:13):
Before I go to the panel with questions, when I
mentioned the Clintons in Haiti, you sort of started laughing
because I get these people all on So I covered
the I.

Speaker 21 (36:25):
Covered the IHRC after the twenty ten Earth Craig I
arrived in Haiti within hours of this, and you know,
people accused Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton of a lot
of things, and it's ridiculous. I mean, first of all,
the money that was promised to Haiti, the billions of dollars,
it never arrived. It didn't go to the Haitian government.
It was kept by the aid agencies that had it
and did not go to Bill Clinton or the commission that.

Speaker 18 (36:48):
That he was chairing.

Speaker 21 (36:49):
You know, what they did was like, okay, tell me
you you promise, you know, one hundred million dollars, Well,
how are you going to spend it?

Speaker 18 (36:56):
Where are supposed to go? And then we had a
little election and that accountability, you know, went away.

Speaker 21 (37:02):
It's very unfortunate because people were not paying very close
attention to this, and it's very easy for people to
just sort of hear the sound bites and say, oh,
I heard this money, that money. But I've done, you know,
my investigations on this repeatedly, and the reality is is
that there were billions of dollars that were promised to
Haiti that were not delivered. And you know, fifteen years
or fourteen years after this earthquake, things did not go up.

(37:23):
Things went down. We've seen nothing but a downward spiral,
you know, in this country.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
And it's part and as part of that billion is
not coming because countries stated, well, if you're not stable,
we don't know who is going to go ahead.

Speaker 18 (37:39):
Not at all.

Speaker 21 (37:41):
The money wasn't delivered because it was promised and there's
all of this red tape on who can get it
and how it needs to go, and so that position
and one of the I remember I did a story
with this, and one of the frustrations of President Clinton,
for instance, was the grassroots organizations in Haiti that.

Speaker 18 (37:56):
Were on the ground that needed this money.

Speaker 21 (37:59):
They had no access to the money because they still
had to go to USAID or you know, the European
Union or any one of these aid agencies and so
some of that money remember the famous stories about the
Red Cross and how money went to They wanting to
put money in a hotel and only you know what
ten houses, twenty houses that were built.

Speaker 18 (38:18):
You know, people went in and saying, oh my god,
there's a disaster and.

Speaker 21 (38:21):
It's poor people. So let's students. But here's the reality.
Poor people often don't own houses or their property. So
if I am an eighty agency and I have all
of this money, am I going to put it into
somebody whose house can get pulled up.

Speaker 18 (38:33):
From under them literally the next day.

Speaker 21 (38:35):
But the people in the middle class who lost their homes,
they could have, you know, benefited from it.

Speaker 18 (38:40):
But that's just not a great you know.

Speaker 21 (38:42):
Look, so there was a lot of mistakes that were
done in terms of the response. You know, Haiti itself
received money from Venezuela. There's been investigations about billions of
dollars that they had in their control that we can't
see where that money went. So there is no pointing
the finger here. I mean, I think everybody shares the blame.

(39:04):
And it's very unfortunate because if you talk to the Avergation,
you know, yes, the US is the elephant in the room,
and they know that the U.

Speaker 18 (39:13):
You know, if the US will pay some attention, they
feel like things the needle will move.

Speaker 21 (39:18):
So you went from where people will complain of too
much US involvement to today people are saying to me,
are they just gonna let us die standing?

Speaker 1 (39:27):
I did reach out to and as you were talking
to to some correction of Black Caucus leaders, and what
I got back was, quote, we're calling for Republicans to
fund forty million dollars in relief funds and working with
Kenya to bring resources to stabilize the situation to avoid
a mass migration. And the CBC members who are taking

(39:48):
a lead on this, or Congresswoman Evet Clark, Congresswoman Stacy Plaskt,
and Congressman Gregory Meeks. So hopefully we'll reach out to them.
Have you communicated with any three of them?

Speaker 21 (40:03):
I've talked to Mix's office. I mean, it's interesting, again
we put migration in there. It's not about migration. I mean,
I think that the administration with this management parole program
has sort of addressed the migration issue. And people are
looking at the migration, but you know, Haiti is two
hours from Florida, and so we should be pushing to
do something, not because we're afraid of a mass migration

(40:24):
to the United States, but just because it's a humanly
thing to do.

Speaker 1 (40:28):
Ho Ty one second, Jacqueline, I'm gonna go to a break.
We come back, my panel will have questions for you, folks.
We're getting trying to get a better understanding of what's
happening in Haiti. It is a country that is in chaos.
It was the first black independent country and ever since

(40:49):
this founding having the payback reparations to their former enslavers,
and this has been one thing after another. And my goodness,
would it be great to have peace in Haiti and prosperity. Uh,
but you got to have leadership. So I'm gonna go
to a break. Will be right back on Roland Martin
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Speaker 2 (41:49):
To see the lives what I call white minority resistance.

Speaker 22 (41:52):
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks to voting.

Speaker 24 (41:59):
Think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of violent denial.

Speaker 10 (42:03):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 25 (42:05):
Every time that people of color have made a progress,
whether real or susbolic, there has been but Carold Anderson
at every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
This is the lack of the proud boys and the
boogaboo boys America.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
There's going to be more of this. There's all the
proud boys of God.

Speaker 8 (42:22):
This country is getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and.

Speaker 18 (42:26):
Its attitudes because of the fear of white people, the.

Speaker 22 (42:30):
Fee that you're taking our job, they're taking out our resources, you're.

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Taking out women. This is white beel.

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Speaker 20 (43:07):
Difference between Haiti and a failed state. It's telling right,
we can't really identify because the gangs are in charge,
the government has been thrown out, And as a Florida man,
I'm deeply concerned about this wave of people that we're
about to have that we are having coming from Haiti,
and it will accelerate because I've gone to Opaalaka and

(43:29):
I've spent time with the folks that are engaged in
Operation Vigilant Century, and they say the number one push
factor that drives these Haitians into Broward County, Palm Beach County,
where they don't.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Disperse throughout the country. They stay in Southeast Florida.

Speaker 20 (43:42):
That driving factor is the deterioration of conditions in Haiti.
So what are we doing to prepare for that wave
and to ensure that these people are not parolled into
the United States as the administration has done with people
on the southern border, but instead are repatriated back at
the I could Port of.

Speaker 23 (44:00):
Prince Congressmen, We're doing a number of things to ensure
that we're keeping track of the situation and we're prepared.
At the moment, we have not yet seen large numbers
what we would characterize as a as a maritime mass migration.

Speaker 2 (44:18):
But we are alert to mass migration there.

Speaker 26 (44:20):
We are.

Speaker 18 (44:20):
We are alert to that possibility.

Speaker 23 (44:22):
I think you're right that the driving conditions in Haiti
could very well press more people. So we've recently proved
approved some additional assistance that we can provide to the Coastguard.
I think that that has now fully been approved. We'll
be providing notifications if we haven't already.

Speaker 20 (44:42):
Shipboard as guess I've talked to the coast Guard.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
So again, that was a Department of Defense hearing Republicans
are suggesting that America should be bracing for a mass
migration from Haiti. Jacqueline Charles, Caribbean correspondent for the Miami Hero.
She says, that's not.

Speaker 2 (45:01):
What's going on.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
But again, you see the hysteria, Jacqueline, you see the
hysteria there from the back gates of the world in
trying to challenge the Department of Defense.

Speaker 21 (45:12):
Well, yes, I mean, first of all, to gain a
mass migration, you have to be able to get out
the capitol, right. I mean, the gang's control over eighty
percent of Quarter Prince. You know, two years ago, I
flew to one of the regions where migrants were leaving from,
and I literally had to fly. I had to charter
an airplane and we landed literally on a road in
the middle of a market because there wasn't an airport.

(45:35):
And then, you know, there was an incident in the
country and my flight, my charter flight, got canceled, and
the only thing I knew was that I was not
going back to Quorter Prince by road because the likelihood
of me getting kidnapped was very, very high, because there
were several kidnap alleys along the way. I mean, this
is the reality of what you're dealing with. And when
you get kidnapped, it's an awful situation. We've got collective

(45:58):
rape that's going on by gangs if you make it
out alive, and then of course they're asking, you know,
enormous amounts of money that a lot of people just don't.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
Have questions from our panel. Larry, you're there in Florida,
you first.

Speaker 16 (46:13):
Yeah, I am so, I guess my question you alluded
to this earlier. I want to focus on the humanitarian
situation here, because you talk about you know, people don't
have access to food, you know, cleaning water, and so
many other challenges. And I'm wondering how soon, you know,
obviously this is already the situation is already blown up
in it, how soon it could actually mushroom as it

(46:34):
relates to starvation, disease, et cetera, based on what we
are now. And I'm making that point because obviously the
importance of this, you know, the United States can in
this collective organization, a group of individual countries being involved
in supporting Haitia. How how how close are we to
an actual foot blown humanitarian crisis where people are starving

(46:54):
and disease et cetera.

Speaker 18 (46:56):
Well, the World Food Program says that we are very
too too.

Speaker 21 (46:59):
I mean that's when you look at the numbers of
what's happening Haitious, the kind of numbers that you see
in places of war. I mean, just in January there
were over eleven hundred Haitians who were killed, kidnapped, were injured.
I mean, that's a huge numbers. The deadliest month in
two years. They are about twelve million people. The World
Food Program says about six million are suffering from hunger,
and in that group a large number of acute hunger.

(47:21):
Many of them are children, huge levels of you know
of kids who just are not getting enough to eat.

Speaker 18 (47:29):
People are skipping meals, trying to cope.

Speaker 21 (47:32):
And while the violence is important, Prince, you know, we're
also seen it in the rice valley of the art
type of needs. So that means those rice farmers are
not getting out. And then with this current situation, because
everything is shut down, there's no air bridge by the
World Food Program or even you know, regular businesses, so
you you know, how do you get things to the
other parts of the country.

Speaker 18 (47:54):
I mean, remember after the.

Speaker 21 (47:56):
Assassination, five weeks later, we had a major earthquake in
the Southern Corridor. And last year, as of November, the
gangs basically took over a key road and they were
hijacking you know, trucks, food truck supply trucks. So we
are very we're very close. I mean, the police and
the army managed to take control of the poort. They

(48:17):
got some fuel out because we really were down to
like four days of fuel Leuf and you need fuel
in order to get potable water, you need fuel for
a lot of things. I mean, hospitals are running out
of oxygen, dolts that haven't been overtaken by gangs and
that are still operating, and they're few and far between
because people can't get to work.

Speaker 14 (48:36):
Junkwell, so I read here that one of the one
of the key leaders of these of these gangs are
former police officers.

Speaker 5 (48:48):
And so we've heard through.

Speaker 14 (48:50):
This evening about the unrest between the government the police department.
We see that the Biden administration has pledged over one
hundred million as a relationship relief then and pledging an
additional one hundred million for the defense Fund. But my
question is is that even what kind of help can

(49:11):
really help Haiti? It seems perplexed. I mean, are we
talking about help that they would need help for the
next fifteen years? I mean, I mean what specifically, in
addition to just a financial pledge, what specifically can we
do so that the US can do so that Haiti
can be sustainable and we're not back in this same

(49:34):
predicament some years down the road.

Speaker 21 (49:37):
Well, this is a result of policies, right, because you
need stability, and you know, we had another transition crisis.
Brola mentioned presidentary seat in two thousand and four, okay,
and then we brought in had a gang situation now
as bad as this one, and so you know he
was she had descend into exile. Now you had two
years of a transition government. You had democratic elections, and

(49:57):
you had Renee Prival who came in and you know
in Haitians didn't give Praval a lot of credit.

Speaker 18 (50:02):
But you had stability.

Speaker 21 (50:03):
But you also had a UN peacekeeping Forestan that was
providing the security. And then you had a major earthquake
and the policy of the US UN and others was
that you had to have an election in the middle
of an earthquake where over three hundred thousand people had died. Well,
they turned out to be very controversial elections, and then
we just it was just one thing after the other.

(50:25):
So in order for you to have economic progress, in
order for you to deal with the humanitarian situation, you
have to have stability.

Speaker 27 (50:32):
In order for you to have.

Speaker 18 (50:33):
People to vote, people hungry people are not going to
be interested in voting.

Speaker 21 (50:36):
So I think that that is where the conversations have
to you know, how do we provide some stability here
so that Haitians can take their futures in their hands.

Speaker 1 (50:45):
This is a there was a video here, it's in French,
but so Haitian gang leader Barbecue Jacqueline said this quote. Today,
we are taking the occasion to tell the international community
to give Haiti a chance because what is happening in
Haiti now. Now we Haitians have to decide who is
going to lead the country and what model of government

(51:05):
we want. We're going to figure out how to get
Haiti out of the misery it is in now today
it's clear that the people who live in the shanty
towns are the ones who know what they are going through.
It is the Haitian people who are going to take
their destiny into their hands.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Haitian people will pick the person to govern them. So
he is a question. And look, we've seen this in
other countries.

Speaker 1 (51:29):
One country's gang leader is another country's revolutionary And so
if you have someone like this, who they're calling a
gang leader, if he commands a huge force, is this
somebody who potentially might be a Haitian leader.

Speaker 21 (51:46):
There are three hundred gangs in Haiti, and so you
should access to the other two hundred and ninety nine
gang leaders.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Well, maybe that commission needs to include a bunch of them,
because clearly, if they're the ones who are blocking the
roads and controlling the airports and the ports, you may
want to have them at the table. But Stappa, your question, warring.

Speaker 18 (52:05):
With each other too, So they've been warring with each other.
You know, they're showing a united front, but normally they're
warring with each other.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
Gotcha, Ustafa, Yeah, thank you for everything that you shared
with us today.

Speaker 10 (52:17):
I've been to eighty a few times.

Speaker 11 (52:18):
I've actually worked on some water quality issues there, and
I also understand that there is a crumbling sort of
medical infrastructure.

Speaker 10 (52:26):
If you will, I'm curious.

Speaker 11 (52:27):
If you have any ideas, because we know there are
gonna be so many folks who are going to get
sick from the things that are being exposed to and
then of course just because of the wars that are
going on there that you know folks are going to
get injured. Is there a way that outside folks can
help on the medical infrastructure side of the question. I
have a bigger infrastructure question, but I know we're short

(52:47):
on time.

Speaker 21 (52:49):
So I was told that you know well, capatient, and
I was in Cape patient in January of last year.
You know when the flight start. You know, they're still
fairly quiet and stable. But yeah, if you're Import Princeton
you have cancer, God forbid, you can't even find a
cancer doctor. You can't find a treatment because one you
can't get to some of these places. And we've lost
so many of these medical professionals because the situation has

(53:11):
just become untenable, unlivable. But you know, there are still
organizations that are working. They are in the outskirts, they're
outside of the capitol, even some in the capital that
you know you can find ways.

Speaker 18 (53:21):
To you know, to assist.

Speaker 1 (53:26):
Well, it is, uh, look, I wish there was a
Ralph Bunch, a doctor, king or somebody who have the
ability to be able to command respect of all different
forces and be able to pull folks together. Uh, it
is Unfortunately we have to keep seeing this here. And
last question for you, Jacqueline. So much of the tension

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obviously is on Porter Prince, but are other parts of
the country fine.

Speaker 21 (53:55):
We are starting we're starting to see the spread of
gangs outside and rural commune these and this is very
worrying because this is where people from the capital fled
to to have safety. And then in the last couple
of months, where we've seen these efforts to disrupt life
in there. So while a lot of the focuses on
Potter Prince, there is a huge concern that we will

(54:16):
start to lose.

Speaker 18 (54:16):
The entire country as more and more of these arm
groups spread.

Speaker 21 (54:20):
The three hundred Armed Groups of the UN set exists,
and hey, they're not just in the capital, but they're
around the country.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
It is an absolutely beautiful country. When a previous HAS
leader was president, I was invited there. This was right
before the earthquake actually hit and have never had an
opportunity to go there. My maternal paternal great ancestors migrated
from there. Like I say, gorgeous country and I wish

(54:51):
more people could be able to see it and enjoy it.
But you got to have stability, you got to have peace,
and you got to have control of the country for
any of that to happen. So Jacqueline Charles, well, appreciate
you breaking all.

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Of this down. Fors, did we miss anything? No, you
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CBC members hopefully we'll get one of them on or
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Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
Unfiltered, a black South Alabama woman says she was wrongfully

(01:01:55):
and forced forcefully arrested h after declining to show her
in occasion to an officer while standing on her porch
This took place on February twenty third. Twila Stalworth called
the Archelusa Police Department about her white neighbor's loud music. Well,

(01:02:16):
no officer showed up until her neighbor called the police
on her for.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Triggering her car alarm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Well, when Officer Grant Burton arrived, he threatened to cite
and arrest Stalworth.

Speaker 2 (01:02:34):
For the car alarm.

Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
According to Stalwarth, Burton did nothing to address her multiple complaints.
As Burton was going back to his police car, Stalwarth
decided to She pointed out the disparity, calling it racially motivated. Well,
her eighteen year old son began to record this video

(01:02:57):
when Burton returned to the porch.

Speaker 32 (01:03:03):
I need you so when y'all go over there and
talking about his reason, but y'all ask me for I
D and he provides.

Speaker 26 (01:03:08):
No, y'all do not.

Speaker 5 (01:03:09):
I'll be sitting right here and watching nobody asking for.

Speaker 23 (01:03:14):
Might give me.

Speaker 2 (01:03:15):
I'm going to job.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
Can I don't provide my D. I'm not giving you
my change when you back.

Speaker 33 (01:03:23):
This is ridiculous.

Speaker 7 (01:03:24):
Hey, turn for change by your back you under rest.

Speaker 11 (01:03:26):
I need to put my shoes on.

Speaker 7 (01:03:27):
I didn't ask you put your hand.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
Whoa, whoa, whoa whoa?

Speaker 18 (01:03:34):
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:36):
Put my calm down.

Speaker 18 (01:03:40):
Please everybody, please calm down.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
Please everybody calm down.

Speaker 10 (01:03:43):
I'm gonna get.

Speaker 32 (01:03:46):
Your dad.

Speaker 27 (01:03:46):
Mom, please by just giving your I d on Please Mom,
please call mom Mom.

Speaker 28 (01:03:56):
No, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 18 (01:03:58):
It's okay, you're gonna It's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:04:00):
It's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:02):
It's okay. Man, it's okay.

Speaker 29 (01:04:03):
It's okay.

Speaker 2 (01:04:04):
It's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:04:05):
Min it's okay.

Speaker 1 (01:04:05):
It's okay, it's okay, it's okay, it's okay.

Speaker 18 (01:04:07):
I'm recording.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
I'm recording.

Speaker 27 (01:04:09):
I'm recording. I'm recording, recording, I'm recording.

Speaker 7 (01:04:13):
I'm recording because you're not complying.

Speaker 2 (01:04:18):
It's okay.

Speaker 7 (01:04:18):
It's okay, the devil, it's okay. It's okay.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
It's no by the devil.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
I put my shoes on.

Speaker 10 (01:04:26):
Please right here.

Speaker 27 (01:04:30):
Hey dude, I wasn't attacking you, by the way.

Speaker 33 (01:04:32):
You know that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's okay. I honestly I.

Speaker 23 (01:04:38):
Understand that I wasn't.

Speaker 8 (01:04:42):
That.

Speaker 27 (01:04:42):
I mean, that's a that's a natural reaction, you know
what I mean. Hey dude, Hey dude, before, Hey dude,
before you take her away.

Speaker 2 (01:04:50):
Before you take her away.

Speaker 27 (01:04:51):
Why are you taking her away?

Speaker 2 (01:04:52):
She's right now, she's under So is this actually an
Alabama to give you? This actually an Alabama state law?

Speaker 27 (01:04:58):
That is not the law that's a Is this actually
an Alabama state law.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
That was not?

Speaker 11 (01:05:03):
When when I'm out with you, as long as I
have a legal reason to be out with you, if
I ask you to identify yourself, you are them?

Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
So can you can you inform me?

Speaker 27 (01:05:10):
Can you inform me?

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
Can you inform me how this, like this process goes?

Speaker 27 (01:05:14):
Because if she if you're if you're arresting her right
now over failure a failure.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Of I D then I got y'all, got you, We're
gonna go.

Speaker 1 (01:05:25):
This got you.

Speaker 27 (01:05:28):
So I'm genuinely curious. I'm genuine curious about how this
is going right off?

Speaker 32 (01:05:33):
And then when I felt your.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
Please, it hurts is the one in particular? So like
I'm gonna have to take one off to get to
the other.

Speaker 34 (01:05:44):
Okay, So.

Speaker 27 (01:05:48):
How is this process gonna go? Because you guys just
can't keep her in there.

Speaker 2 (01:05:51):
Cooped up for failure of ideas? That makes that makes
the sense?

Speaker 27 (01:05:55):
Why logically, logically that makes no sense I'm at home. Hey, hey, dad,
they're arresting my mom because of lack of idea fail everybody.
They're they're arrested and he thank you, and he's arresting her.
He roughled her up and whatnot, you know what I
mean stuff like that, Like they're they're they're literally coping

(01:06:18):
her and putting her in the.

Speaker 2 (01:06:18):
Back of the car right now, have you ever?

Speaker 11 (01:06:26):
Yeah?

Speaker 27 (01:06:26):
That, Hey, I have another question when you guys bring
her back, because I'm not for how long you'll see
a judge and judge I'm terming that overnight.

Speaker 2 (01:06:40):
Yeah, So like, where can I where can I basically
read this where.

Speaker 27 (01:06:44):
They say that, you like, because I want to I
want to actually see this law in playing that. Yeah,
I want to screenshot this and every well, actually.

Speaker 2 (01:06:55):
I have a recorded so it doesn't matter.

Speaker 27 (01:07:05):
Even though I think it's wrong on I mean either way,
because you know, there's an old lady that lives right
next to him.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
He's blasting his music as loud as.

Speaker 18 (01:07:13):
Possible as it's not.

Speaker 10 (01:07:18):
So fifteen five.

Speaker 27 (01:07:19):
Thirty fifteen five thirty. Yes, law enforcement official can request
your name explanation of his actions. I don't see where
it says anything about an ID. It says your name, address,
and explanations.

Speaker 10 (01:07:30):
She refailed to identify.

Speaker 27 (01:07:31):
But I think, I mean it doesn't specifically you know,
say I.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Know, but I'm not gonna argue it either.

Speaker 27 (01:07:37):
All right, that makes me logically, that makes zero sense, dude,
that they're literally taking her away. But he no, but
he said he asked for ID. In the law, it
does not state how you have to provide an ID.

(01:08:04):
They're going away with my mama right now.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
And Lusia Mayor Earl Johnson has apologized to Stalwart and
he says that there's no evidence that the incident was
racially motivated.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
On behalf of the city of Andalusia. In the Andalusia Police.

Speaker 15 (01:08:32):
Department, I would like to apologize to Miss Twyla Stalworth
for her arrest here in February. All charges against Miss
Stalworth are being dropped. The arresting officer in this case
has a clean record with our department, but he made
a mistake in this case on February the twenty third.

(01:08:53):
He has been disciplined for a failing in his duty
to know the law. When I learned about this instant
last week, I offered to meet with Miss Stalworth, but
she declined. Miss Stalworth has not filed a complaint against
the police department, but her attorney alleges in his release

(01:09:14):
that her arrest was racially motivated. We have reviewed bodycam
footage of the incident and see absolutely no evidence of racism.
We have always worked hard in Andalusia to maintain great
relationships among our diverse populations. In the video released by

(01:09:37):
her attorney, Miss Stalworth also claims that the police department
has failed to respond to complaints she made against her neighbor.
We also have reviewed internal evidence that shows that the
police department has responded to those complaints. I have met
with Andalusia Police Chief and other leaders in the department.

(01:09:57):
We have agreed that the entire department will receive additional
training and constitutional law, the laws of Alabama and the
ordinances of the City of Andalusia, so that we will
not have an excement like this to reoccur.

Speaker 1 (01:10:12):
Joining us is Twyla and her attorney, Harry Daniels from Atlanta. Okay, So, Harry,
I'm trying to understand here. Did the mayor say that
the officer was disciplined because he did not know the
Alabama law, which means was he wrong in arresting her

(01:10:33):
for refusing to show an ID.

Speaker 7 (01:10:37):
And thanks Rose for having the song. Absolutely.

Speaker 13 (01:10:41):
The mayor gave the statement that the officer was disciplined
and trained for not knowing the Alabama law. And the
law is very clear that if a person is suspective
of a crime in which she was not the suspective
of crime, and if that suspicion is in a public place,
then the officer only and only can ask for your name,

(01:11:04):
your address, and while you're there. There's nowhere in Alabama
laws that requires a person who's suspective of a crime,
even if they're in a public place, to give their identification,
their actual ID to law enforcement. That would be against
a fifth Amendment, the right to remain solid. Twalla was
at home, She was not suspected of crime. She in

(01:11:24):
fact and made complaints of noise of the neighbors. She
was in a home, and he required for her to
give her ID, which was under no obligation.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
To do so.

Speaker 18 (01:11:35):
I remember that was.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
An African American man who was watering the yard of
a neighbor and got arrested and they came and demanded ID.
He's like, I ain't gonna show y'all id and he
actually was a former police officer.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
He said, I know the law.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
I don't have to show you anything. I'm just watering
the yard. And that is the same thing happened. And here,
and what's crazy here is that the officer charged her
with resisting arrest, obstruction of governmental operations, and attempting to
elude police. This is a perfect example of how these

(01:12:17):
cops overcharge and try to come up with anything when
they arrest somebody.

Speaker 13 (01:12:23):
Yeah, Roland, this is and you're talking about Michael Jennings,
Pastor Jennis. I'm actually Pastor Jenny's attorney as well. Uh,
he was charged with the same thing, a failure to
give his identification where he was no not suspect suspect
suspective committee of crime, nor was he on public property.
He's absolutely right, he was not under he was not
obligated those charges. Was also dismissed. We have filed a

(01:12:44):
federal lawsuit particular matters working his way through the courts, and.

Speaker 7 (01:12:49):
Not just Pastor Jennis and Twiler, but also down in Boa. Bill.

Speaker 13 (01:12:54):
I know y'all coverage One Dallas. The reason why they
accosted to one Dallas and eventually try to detain him.
Is because he refused to give his identification his ID
to them, and that had deadly consequences for jun one
downas where he was tased multiple.

Speaker 7 (01:13:14):
Times by the office and subsequently died.

Speaker 13 (01:13:17):
So, yeah, it is an epidemic UH in the state
of Alabama where folk are asked to produce identification and
violation of Alabama law. This matter just went up to
the eleventh Circuit where the Eleventh Circuit made it a
mondily clear and it pointed to Alabama law that at

(01:13:37):
no time is a person required to give their actual
i D, especially a person who's not suspected committing a
crime or is not in a public place at all,
and no time you're required to give your ID.

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Twila.

Speaker 1 (01:13:52):
So you call the cops. They didn't respond, right right,
the neighbor called a co ops, then they respond. So
when the mayor says, well, it's not racially motivated, as
the mayor said, why the hell the cops didn't come
when you called.

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
Well the cops.

Speaker 5 (01:14:14):
I called it earlier that day and.

Speaker 32 (01:14:18):
The cop came out and took to him and he
cut the music down.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
But the neighbor beside me on my right side.

Speaker 7 (01:14:27):
He cut his music.

Speaker 32 (01:14:28):
Oh, he went out in his truck, opened up the
door and cut his music up and blasted it. Looked
down at the neighbor down the street, and they they started.
So I in turn turned my car along one to
drown out their music.

Speaker 2 (01:14:44):
So, so I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (01:14:46):
So one neighbor music was loud, you said, the cops arrived,
and that neighbor turned his music down. The cops leave,
and another neighbor turns their music up. The other neighbor.
Are they white, yes, okay, so there are too, So
you had loud music coming from two neighbors. Yes, So

(01:15:08):
when you call the cops, I'm sorry. So when the
second neighbor cracked their music up, that's when you turn
your car along on correct, Yes, And then the neighbors
call the cops and then they show up. So when
the cop, when this cop Burton comes, did he go
next door and tell the turn the music down.

Speaker 32 (01:15:28):
No, he didn't even hear my car along when he
pulled up.

Speaker 35 (01:15:31):
My car loan was off.

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
And then this whole thing a transpropt, this whole confrontation transpired.
Uh well, first, Harry, first of all, thank goodness, her
son was recording. Have y'all seen the officer's bodycam video, No,
we have not.

Speaker 13 (01:15:50):
You know, rolling in the state of Alabama, police officers
body cants videos and not considered public documents. We would
have to in fact following lawsuits to get those videos,
you know, and the mayor made the position that he don't.
They find out evidence of racism, but racism a lot
of times subjective, but the evidence is clear where you

(01:16:11):
have a black woman calling multiple times that she had
called over twenty five times, and at no time where
the neighbor what she had called over twenty five times
about noise complaints, was ever threatened or told that they
was gonna get arrested.

Speaker 7 (01:16:27):
She they called her her one time she.

Speaker 13 (01:16:30):
Refused, I'd give identification and Roland the incident was over.
When I say the incident, when the officer approached Miss
Dalwarth she can tell you more about it, and told
her if she don't turn her car alarm off, then
she'll be citing and taking taking to jail. And when
she pointed out that she felt like it was racist,
that's when he turned around and came up and demanded

(01:16:52):
for her identification. So on those grounds of loans, it
was some type of retaliation when she asserted that he
was racist, in consideration of the fact that she had
called multiple times at no time where her neighbors ever
threatened or taken to jail. So absolutely, I think there's
clear evidence that this is racially motivated. I think the

(01:17:14):
mayor got home, you know, obviously, you know.

Speaker 7 (01:17:17):
The position is that he was disciplined.

Speaker 13 (01:17:19):
But when you look at this video, her son Germany
was pushed out the way his mother was backed up
in her own home, slammed to the couch, drug out,
placed in the police car, humiliated in front of those
same neighbors who call the police, throned in jail, stayed

(01:17:41):
in jail overnight, strip searched, and had to post a
three thousand dollars plus month to get out, you know,
all because she refused to give her identification, which she
had a right, not just constitutional right, but a right
under Alabama law not to give her identification.

Speaker 7 (01:17:59):
You know, we've seen this before in the state of Alabama. Recently.

Speaker 13 (01:18:03):
We started nineteen fifty nine and Montgomery when a black
woman refused to give her seat up and then started
on the Montgomery bus boy cap. So this is something
that's the epidemic that he in his stated we didn't
stay for the Twila Sun recorded because if he had
not recorded, it'll be completely just narrative as such as
she'll probably still facing criminal charges.

Speaker 2 (01:18:24):
So I mean it is I mean again, so unfortunate.

Speaker 22 (01:18:29):
And so.

Speaker 1 (01:18:31):
You did this unbelievable twilight. Last question for you, have
you had any issues with your neighbors since then? No?

Speaker 32 (01:18:40):
They at first he was playing it plus week he
was playing it, and then he stopped when the I
guess they told him that. They came out here and
told me at the clean his yard up. So after
that he stopped playing it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:55):
All right, then, well we'll appreciate both of you being
with us right here on rolland unfold your thinks a lot.

Speaker 7 (01:19:01):
Thanks, Roland, have a good night, you know, John Quayll.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
I mean, this is the thing that this is the conundrum.
And as you heard Harry say, even if you know
the law, another young young man who was arrested, he
was within his rights. You know, we hear the people
talk about know your rights. He was within his rights.
He still got tased. He died as a result. And

(01:19:26):
so you have a lot of people who are like
and you heard the young man on the video, Twiler's
son say, Mama, just cooperate because he you can. You
can hear the fear in his voice that something might happen.
This thing might escalate, and something might happen to her.

Speaker 5 (01:19:42):
You're absolutely right. These number one.

Speaker 14 (01:19:47):
This is why civil rights attorneys are so important, because
they're keeping the government accountable.

Speaker 5 (01:19:53):
The lack of training for.

Speaker 14 (01:19:55):
Officers, the abuse of power for overcharging individuals in our
community is running rampant, and they have to keep getting
sued as a result. Not only did he illegally enter
her home, right so he wasn't even legally authorized to

(01:20:15):
be in her home based upon the facts that we
just watched. Then he assaulted her by pushing her down,
so and then you're overcharging her and creating and now
she has an arrest record.

Speaker 5 (01:20:27):
Right, so listen, this is the thing. You You may
dismiss the.

Speaker 14 (01:20:31):
Charges, right Ultimately, however, she has an arrest record, and
even if the laws in Alabama permit her to get
an expungement, if she ever comes into contact with law
enforcement again, she'll forever have this arrest record. With these
outland discharges, they're not even commensurate with what happened and
it really really has a lasting effect on our community and.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
Frankly on your life.

Speaker 14 (01:20:57):
Right when you've got an arrest record and being over
charge and they have an abusive power and these situations
keep happening, you got to keep holding.

Speaker 5 (01:21:05):
Them account one. You got to keep hire on council,
and we got to keep swing them.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Mostapha.

Speaker 11 (01:21:13):
I mean, this is just another example of the trauma
that many black women and black men often face dealing
with these types of situations, and people often don't pay
enough attention to that because you can never take that away.

Speaker 10 (01:21:26):
They drop the charges, You can't take that trauma away.

Speaker 11 (01:21:29):
You know, if there was a way to make sure
that her record was clear, you still can't take the
trauma away. And then you also have to think about
the young son who had to watch his mother being
assaulted and couldn't do anything.

Speaker 10 (01:21:41):
Now, what is that reminiscent of when we were enslaved
in this.

Speaker 11 (01:21:45):
Country and people would assault our women and we had
to stand by and watch, and of course luckily he
recorded it. But this is all about this this DNA
trauma that continues to grow inside of our commune unities,
that plays out in so many different types of ways.
So yes, there is the legal side of the equation

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which we have to address, and thankfully we have great attorneys,
civil rights attorneys who are stepping in to make sure
that we get, you know, some help in that particular space.
But there is also the psychological side of folks who
are watching it, folks who are experiencing and then have
to figure out, you know, how am I going to
heal from this because somebody hopefully has to pay for

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whether the type of therapy she might need or other
types of things to be to begin the healing process.
So I hope that as we watch these unfortunate situations,
that we look in a holistic way about the things
that need to happen inside of our community.

Speaker 16 (01:22:43):
Larry, this is another generation, another example of racial trauma
and generational it's you know, stuff of this highlight. I mean,
you know, we've seen his son's son have sit to
record and watch his mother be treated that way in
our own hand. And this is this is this is
as a long term impact on how he views you know,

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authority figures, law enforcement particular, and this is why when
we currently see in some jurisdictions throughout the United States,
rowing why they're increasing this, this police dragnet is problematic
for black folks in the community because we already know
that we're disunfortunately when we come in time to contact
with law enforcement, but like two and three times more
likely be killed. And fortunately he was there once again

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the recorded, but if he had been there to record it,
you just heard they turn to talk about this. You know,
Alabama law which is home sounds almost impossible to get
the recording of the interaction. So it would basically be
the police officers, you know, whatever statement he gave, compared
to the citizens that were there then obviously being assaulted.

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So it is an unequal system that too many black
folks have been victimized, oftentimes sometimes in a situation where
we're not doing anything with our mind, our business and
simply being black. But this is an example of, like
I said, how racism works in our system. It's systematic.
When you were you were trying to do the right thing,
you become the victim in your own home. And now

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so as recourse, I hope she sues and gets all
the money she deserves.

Speaker 2 (01:24:15):
All right, folks going to Brantley come back.

Speaker 1 (01:24:18):
Her secretary at Marsha Fudd is the only African American
female Cabinet Secretary for President Joe Biden has announced that
she is stepping down, and we'll discuss that next right
here on Roland Martin unfilted on the Black Start Network.

Speaker 34 (01:24:37):
For the last fifteen or maybe sixteen or eighteen years,
I'll say, since when I moved to LA, I hadn't
had a break.

Speaker 7 (01:24:44):
I haven't had a vacation.

Speaker 2 (01:24:45):
I've been a week vacations year at that.

Speaker 34 (01:24:47):
Right this year, after I got finished during Queen Shuit
and we wrapped up because I knew I had two
TV shows going on the.

Speaker 2 (01:24:53):
Seven time some technical break.

Speaker 7 (01:24:56):
So I've been on break for the first time, and.

Speaker 2 (01:24:58):
I can afford it. God, so I could afforded nothing
to worry about. Man. But this was the first time
in almost two decades.

Speaker 1 (01:25:08):
Wow, that I've actually had time to sit there, wow.

Speaker 7 (01:25:12):
And smell the rovers.

Speaker 2 (01:25:27):
Hatred on the streets.

Speaker 23 (01:25:28):
A horrific scene white nationalists rally that descended into deadly violence.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
White people are moving their their minds.

Speaker 15 (01:25:40):
As angry pro Trump mark storm to the US capital ship.

Speaker 1 (01:25:44):
We're about to see the lives where I call white
minority resistance.

Speaker 22 (01:25:47):
We have seen white folks in this country who simply
cannot tolerate black folks the voting.

Speaker 24 (01:25:54):
I think what we're seeing is the inevitable result of
violent denial.

Speaker 7 (01:25:58):
This is part of American history.

Speaker 25 (01:26:00):
Every time that people of color had made a progress,
whether real or symbolic, there has been But Carol Anderson
at every university calls white rage as a backlash.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Because the wife of the Proud Boys and the Boogaaloo
Boys America.

Speaker 2 (01:26:13):
There's going to be more of this, the Proud Boy.

Speaker 8 (01:26:17):
This country just getting increasingly racist and its behaviors and its.

Speaker 18 (01:26:21):
Attitudes because of the fear of white people.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
The food that you're taking our job, they're taking out
our resources, they're taking out women.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
This is white beeld Oar, white executive producer, a proud family.

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You're watching Roland Martin Unfiltered.

Speaker 1 (01:27:04):
I've told you on many occasions how Republicans in North
Carolina are some of the most evil people, how they
exert their power and their influence. Well, when they took
control of the General Assembly, and remember when the white
woman Democrat crossed to Republicans, giving them a super majority,
they began to strip Democrat Governor Roy Cooper of a

(01:27:25):
lot of his powers, including appointing people to the local
election boards well a three judge panel a federal panel.
Rule of the state's legislature unlawfully diminished the governor's power
in choosing election board members. The judges were unanimous, two
Republicans in one Democrat, sociding with Democrat Governor Roy Cooper's

(01:27:48):
lawsuit after the GOP control General Assembly overrode Cooper's veto
of the measure in October. The changes, which were set
to a take effect in January, would have shifted board
appointment powers away from the governor to the legislature. Based
on recent court rulings and the state Constitution, the judges
rule of the new appointment process interferes with a governor's

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ability to ensure elections and voting laws are faithfully executed.
This decision means that these boards will remain under the
previous laws set up unless it is overturned on appeal.
Republicans had been winning recent high stakes rulings at the
state Supreme Court since it flipped from a four to
three Democrat majority to a five to two GOP majority

(01:28:32):
in early two thousand and three.

Speaker 2 (01:28:35):
And speaking of why voting matters.

Speaker 1 (01:28:38):
Remember when we told you when the Wisconsin Democrat Janet
Proteste wits when she won by eleven points on the
state Supreme Court, shifting majority power to Democrats.

Speaker 2 (01:28:52):
Well, what if they do. They ruled on the state districts.

Speaker 1 (01:28:56):
Now they have a case before them when it comes
to congressional districts. And so the governor has already signed
a law changing the boundaries of the state legislature districts
that are being partisan, some of the most partisan gerrymanding
in the country. Now they're targeting the congressional districts. Well,
the same Wisconsin State Supreme Court has now accepted a

(01:29:17):
case dealing with ballot drop boxes. Before the Republican control
was constin state Supreme.

Speaker 2 (01:29:23):
Court voted to ban ballot drop boxes.

Speaker 1 (01:29:29):
Well, this Democrat control court could very well overrule that decision,
which means in November that voters in Wisconsin will be
able to utilize ballot drop boxes. All of this is
critically important, Ustafa, because again, as I'm always trying to
explain to people, if you sit your ass on the

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couch and you don't vote, you don't understand how your
power is not going to use. When Democrats controlled the
North Carolina Supreme Court, they were able to overrule id
they were over they were way to overrule all of
the ways that Republicans in North Carolina were trying to
cut early voting, cancel early voting locations, cancel voting locations,

(01:30:13):
all of the voter suppression tactics they use.

Speaker 2 (01:30:16):
Well, Republicans are now in control.

Speaker 1 (01:30:18):
They now allowing them to move forward with that including
partisan jerry mandering and potentially racial jerry mandering. But in
what you see in Wisconsin when it flipped, how this
will change the balance of power in the state.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
And so when we tell people while they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
Must focus on top of the ticket and races down ballot,
Wisconsin is a perfect example.

Speaker 11 (01:30:42):
Yeah, you know, most folks are just asking for fairness.
That's what folks really want. They want to know that
they can be able to cast their ballot, that the
process is going to be fair. But we know that
the GOP, based upon their actions, not on theory, not
on assumptions, but actually based upon their actions, are not
interested in fairness. What they are interested in is having

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all the power because they understand the dynamics that are
changing in our country, in the browning of America and.

Speaker 10 (01:31:11):
Those different types of things.

Speaker 11 (01:31:13):
And that's why Since each individual has power that is
tied to their vote, you have to use it. And
people will think, well, sometimes, well, if I just don't vote,
then that doesn't play out in any type of a
dynamic around my power. Yes, it does, because you're giving
your power away to someone else who may not have
the best interests of what's happening inside of your state,
your county, or your local government.

Speaker 10 (01:31:33):
So we just got to stay engaged, and we also.

Speaker 11 (01:31:36):
Got to continue the education of helping people understand how
power plays out in.

Speaker 10 (01:31:40):
The power that they have.

Speaker 1 (01:31:43):
You know, we spend so much time Larry on this
show trying to connect the dots, and I know somebody
is sitting at home going, I mean, what's the biggest
deal appointing?

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
Well, guess what. By taking the power for the Democrat.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
Governor Roy Coop and putting in control of Republicans, they
now controlled who is over those election boards, those election boards,
they determine disputes, those local election board determines. Hey, how
do we set the hours to vote as well? And
so that's why you can have later voting hours in
Republican counties, early voting hours in counties where they're not dominating,

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and so we have to understand all of this speaks
to how it impacts us, and we know when Republicans
are in charge, they're going to do things that are
not democratic, that actually suppresses black voters and makes it
harder for us to turn out.

Speaker 16 (01:32:41):
Yeah, and you hit on a key point there about
voter suppression in the many ways in which you see it.
But once again you're right, Roland. They're trying to try
to shift power from the executive branch to the legilative
branch in the state of North Carolina. And as you
point out, Republicans in North Carolina be at this.

Speaker 29 (01:32:57):
For quite a while.

Speaker 16 (01:33:00):
We see, for instance, in you know, the last several
for decades in the black community, when you see in
terms of who's who's in charge of elections, you see
the disproportion of rate which you know this, you know,
the ACLU and other other organizations in which black and
brown folks are more I have to stay likely to
stay in line compared to white communities. And so once
again they plan the short and long game in terms
of being able to put those individuals they want in

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positions of power and maybe possibly Roland get this crazy.
The current current GP GOP Republican nominee for governor get
crazy people like him into office. So it is really important,
like they said that the judges indicated and agreed that
this was this wasn't legal, and make sure that the
governor continued to have maintained the power he should have had.

(01:33:44):
But also once again pushes back on, you know, these
Republican efforts to once again to make it as difficult
as possible for those minoritized communities, for young people, for
those who have certain disabilities, rolling to make it more
difficult for them to vote.

Speaker 1 (01:33:59):
And John Quello, I mean in North Carolina, they were
pissed off that black people turned out in mass numbers
in two thousand and eight, leading then Senator Obama to
win North Carolina by fourteen thousand, one hundred votes.

Speaker 2 (01:34:12):
Guess what Republicans were.

Speaker 1 (01:34:13):
Pissed off when Pastor Rafael Warnock and John Osoff won
those runoffs in January twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
What did they do?

Speaker 1 (01:34:23):
They immediately begin to change the voting laws in Georgia.
One of the laws they changed was that they changed
the period for you to register for the runoff, and
so in the twenty twenty runoff, you could the runoff
took place. Then there was a dead line a couple

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of weeks later to register for the runoff. Well they
changed that sucker to register for the runoff. It took
place even before the general This is what happens when
you control the levers of power. And so our folks
need to understand while all of these races are so
important because they are impacting our ability to maximize power.

Speaker 14 (01:35:07):
You're absolutely right, and frankly, you know our community, we're
in the fight for our lives at this point when
and when we're talking about voting here, right, there's the
whole there's a reason why we have the three branches
of government, the legislative branch, the executive branch, and of
the judicial branch, right, and so we have got to
be out there voting and paying very close attention to

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who's running to be these judges, who is running to
be the legislatures, and who's also running to be governors
of your state.

Speaker 5 (01:35:39):
Because essentially what's going.

Speaker 14 (01:35:41):
On in North Carolina, like you said, as it relates
to power, is their ability to usurp the executive branch's
ability to make decisions and bring that back to the legislature.

Speaker 5 (01:35:53):
The legislatures designed to inact laws.

Speaker 14 (01:35:56):
That's it, all right, And so if we are not
paying attention to who we are electing in each of
these positions of power, and it's a good thing that
there is a governor that was elected by the citizenry
that fought back on that to be able to even
challenge that in the first place.

Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
And that's how important.

Speaker 14 (01:36:19):
And in fact, you've got Vice President Kamala Harris running
up flying across the country meeting about our voting rights
and how they're under attack. And so we're in a
fight for our lives. And it's time to pay attention
because these individual seats and races have a large determining

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fact on your everyday life.

Speaker 1 (01:36:42):
Absolutely, and so we spend lots of time just trying
to educate folks. Y'all hold on one second, we come back.
We'll talk about the retiring Secretary of hud Marshall Fudge
back in the moment.

Speaker 35 (01:36:57):
Next on the black teable with me Greg Carr. Democracy
in the United States is undeceased. On this list of
bad actors, it's easy to point out the Donald Trumps,
the Marjorie Taylor Greens, or even the United States Supreme Court.

Speaker 7 (01:37:12):
As the primary villains.

Speaker 35 (01:37:13):
But as David Pepper, author, scholar, and former politician himself says,
there's another factor that trumps them all and resides much
closer to many of our homes.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
His book is Laboratories of Altocer's a wake up call
from behind the lines.

Speaker 24 (01:37:32):
So these state houses get hijacked by the far right,
then they jerry mander, they suppress the opposition, and that
allows and the legislate in a way that doesn't reflect
the people of that state.

Speaker 35 (01:37:44):
David Pepper joins us on the next Black Table here
on the Black Star Network.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
Bruce Smith, creator and executive Brewster of The.

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Speaker 1 (01:39:56):
Inste Folks Hudds, Secretary of Marsha Fudge, the only black

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female cabinet secretary in President Biden's cabinet, has announced that
she is retiring. The seventy one year old told the
U say today it's time to go home. Fudge left
Congress to join the Bidy administration as Housing Secretary, becoming
the second black woman to head the agency. She's represented
Ohio's eleventh congressional district in the House, previously was Congressional

(01:40:55):
of Black Cauca's chair. Before that, she served in the
Ohio State Legislature and then was a mayor in Ohio,
so she's been in public service for twenty four years.
Fud said that her last day would be March twenty second.
President Biden released this statement where he said, a fair
housing market, an access to quality and affordable housing are

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official to the fulfillment of the American dream, and no
one understands that better than Secretary of Marsha L.

Speaker 2 (01:41:27):
Fudge. When I took office, we.

Speaker 1 (01:41:30):
Inherited a broken housing system with fair housing and civil
rights prosecutions badly protections badly disbanded under the prior administration.
On day one, Marsha got to work rebuilding the Department
of Housing in urban development, and over the past three years,
she has been a strong voice for expanding efforts to

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build generational wealth through home ownership and lower ring cost
and promoting fairness for Americans. Under Marcia's transformational leadership, we
have worked hard to lower housing costs and increased supply.

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We've proposed the largest investment in affordable housing in US history.
We've taken steps to aggressively combat racial discrimination in housing
by ensuring home appraisals are more fair and by strengthening
programs to redress the negative impacts of redlining.

Speaker 2 (01:42:32):
Thanks to Secretary.

Speaker 1 (01:42:33):
Fudge, we've helped first time home buyers, and we are
working to cut the cost of renting. And there are
more housing units under construction right now than at any
time in the last fifty years. From her time as
a mayor through her years as a fierce advocate in

(01:42:53):
the UTH House Representatives, Marcia's vision, passion, and focus on
increasing economic opportunity have been assets to our work country.
I'm grateful for all of her contributions toward a housing
system that works for all Americans, and I wish her
well In her next chapter, Deputy Secretary Adrian Topman will

(01:43:15):
serve as acting secretary after Fudge leaves. The thing that
he lays out there is really important, Mustafa, because look,
Ben Carson was her secretary under that other fool, and
being Carson didn't know what the hell he was doing.
He had no damn clue what he was doing whatsoever.

(01:43:39):
He had no business in that job, and he was
absolutely awful. And Fudge came in and let me tell
you something. We met with her and her team, and
you had a number of black women who were in top.

Speaker 2 (01:43:55):
Leadership positions at HUD.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
It's fair to say black fol were running that department
beyond her and that focus on redlining. They partner with
the Department of Justice going after folks who are redlining
and keeping African Americans out out of homes, going after
financial institutions as well, and so absolutely one of the

(01:44:21):
best Housing secretaries we've ever had.

Speaker 11 (01:44:25):
Yeah, you know, Secretary of Fudge is amazing. Let me
tell you why she's amazing. I mean I met her
in two thousand and eight when she first came to
the Hill. But when she took over at HUD, many
folks don't understand that these agencies and departments had been decimated, right.
Many of the top folks, folks who really knew their stuff,
had left because they didn't want to work for Trump,

(01:44:45):
and then they just did all these different types of
things that weaken the agencies and departments. I was I
had a conversation with some folks about Secretary Carson I
felt bad for him for a second, but then I said,
you actually took the job, so you knew what you
were getting yourself into. And folks who are experts in
the housing side of the equation said that the only
folks he was good for with the investor class on

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the housing side of the equation. Then you look at
Secretary Fudge, who actually has understood the dynamics that have
contributed to the wealth gap inside of our community and
actually went to.

Speaker 10 (01:45:19):
Work to actually do things to change that.

Speaker 11 (01:45:21):
So not only the redlining that was out there, but
also making sure that the re people are able to
access the loans low interest loans to be able to
get into the housing game, if you will, to begin
to build that wealth.

Speaker 10 (01:45:33):
To also make sure on the sort of.

Speaker 11 (01:45:35):
The Title six side of the equation, the civil rights aspect,
to make sure that folks have been playing games there
and not allowing people to actually move into the housing space.

Speaker 10 (01:45:45):
That both with the Department of Justice and them that
they were addressing that.

Speaker 11 (01:45:49):
You know, she made sure that she made more flexibility
in the CDBG grants.

Speaker 10 (01:45:53):
That are out there.

Speaker 11 (01:45:54):
So those are those development grants that are so critically important.

Speaker 10 (01:45:57):
To be able to build this new housing.

Speaker 11 (01:45:59):
And then we've all so talked on this show a
number of times about that there's not enough housing that's
out there. So when people see, you know, these incredible
rents that people are paying, and how things continue to
go up and up, it is because of that housing
shortage that's there.

Speaker 10 (01:46:13):
And she's been.

Speaker 11 (01:46:13):
Playing a critical role in getting the new housing out
there and making sure that there's affordable housing, which is
you know, an important part of the equation. So I
give her, you know, nothing but gold stars for the
work that she's done both when she was in Congress,
when she was a mayor and now leading HUDD, which
was not an easy thing to do, especially in those

(01:46:34):
early days, because there had been you know, all this
work that was done by the Trump administration to weaken it.

Speaker 1 (01:46:41):
You know, I dare say, John Quail, what was important here?
It is important to have There's the only time with
these departments it's somebody.

Speaker 2 (01:46:51):
Who who is being a governor or minor of Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:46:55):
But because Fudge was a mayor and a state representative
and a member of Congress, she's bringing a far different
perspective to the table because actually, when it comes to
housing in this country, that really is the province of
mayors in these cities, and so I think that experience
was vital in that particular position.

Speaker 5 (01:47:19):
Yes, I agree, Roland.

Speaker 14 (01:47:21):
I mean essentially, her time as mayor allowed her to
be able to be boots on the ground, seeing from
day to day what the challenges were with housing and
with homelessness, and being able to address that on a
national level.

Speaker 5 (01:47:36):
I myself, of course, I'm sad to see her go.

Speaker 14 (01:47:39):
She is a member of my sorority as well as
an aluma. We both attended the Ohio State University. So
she is a tremendous leader. It's a tremendous loss to
see her go. But she has been a force that
we all have looked up to for so long.

Speaker 16 (01:47:56):
Larry, Yeah, she's had a career he talked about in
the state of Ohio, certainly representing her district as a
member of the CBC. My colleague just talked about. She's
former president of Delta Sigma, theyd Solrity Incorporated. And it's
a tremendous loss for the administration. And I think the
rolling interesting thing about the president's statement and talking about

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redlining my colleagues have highlighted and the long term impact
redlining has had on the black community in terms of
gaining equity. And we know the majority of wealth in
this country for Americans derived from owning a home. So
it's unfortunate that she's leaving. I wish you all the best,
like I said, for many years of dedicated service as

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a public servant, and she's been a tremendous asset at
HUD and her wealth and experience, and I wish you
all the best.

Speaker 1 (01:48:43):
A couple of years ago, we had her on the
show discussion the infrastructure bill and also talking about her
role at hood.

Speaker 2 (01:48:51):
This was our mate pulled up right here. My apologies.

Speaker 1 (01:48:56):
This here was our conversation, and y'all know, I'm gonna
play for y'all.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
This other.

Speaker 1 (01:49:06):
Interesting moment that we had as well, when she had
a news conference and a little something something happened that
will go down as one of the greatest news conferences ever.

Speaker 2 (01:49:19):
I checked this out.

Speaker 1 (01:49:21):
So I don't want to take up all of your
time when we talk about being in this position here.
I think back to the eight years of President Barack
Obama and a lot of people forget you were here
at the CBC. You were very clear and tough on
the President, we came to his housing plans, I dare say,

(01:49:41):
and this is me speaking, one of the failures of
the administration was in the area of housing. Black people
lost fifty three percent of all wealth due to the
housing foreclosure crisis. We're dealing with really right now, a
housing shortage in America. I've owned my home in Dallas
for since nineteen ninety nine. I get text messages and
calls every day from somebody trying to buy my house

(01:50:04):
to flip it. And so there are people out there
who want to be able to buy a home. But
you have these hedge funds that went out and bought
blocks of twenty five and thirty and fifty thousand homes
from the banks we supposedly helped out with tarp And
so how do we what is your plan to put
us on that path for true affordable housing, for people

(01:50:25):
to be able to own their homes and they're not
having to spend all this money renting something that they
simply don't own.

Speaker 31 (01:50:32):
Well, the first thing is just to say this is
that FAHA is a part of hood. And so we
are looking at what we have done, and we made
some mistakes, no question about it. Roland, we have also
been a part of those people who have not looked
at equity, have not looked at how we create an
environment in which people who are moderate income or even

(01:50:55):
some that are low income, can't afford to buy homes.
You're going to see a change, and you're going to
see it soon. We're going to assist home buyers. We're
going to level the playing field because Roland, you know
as well as I do that for people that look
like us, most of us start to create any sense
of wealth by buying a home. We're also going to
look at how we assist in educating people about the

(01:51:18):
process because so often Roland people who are just trying
to get into it don't have any idea where to start.
So we're going to assist them with saving, with down
payment assistance. We're going to do the things necessary to
give folks a chance, just to give them a shot
at creating generational wealth.

Speaker 2 (01:51:36):
You have my word on it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
I'm going to ask you do one thing also, and
I have been and we talked about this when you
were in Congress. The federal government spends a billion dollars
a year on media advertising. Black owned media gets ten million.
We want to assist with that educating people as well,
which is critically important that black ad agencies and black
owned media are received those dollars to be able to

(01:52:00):
form our constituents about these very things. And so I've
said it to Susan Rice in the White House, I've
said to Cedric Richmond. I've said it to Senator Chuck Schumer.
I'm still waiting to interview speak Nancy Pelosi, but that's
another story, but I'm gonna say it to her as well.
But this is important because if we're trying to reach
black folks, we need to talk to black on media.

(01:52:20):
And that's why I'm thankful that you came on and
didn't give us the run around and say, yeah, absolutely,
we want to come on to share this con information
with our audience.

Speaker 31 (01:52:30):
Rolland this is my very first interview since the announcement,
and I wanted to do it with you because I
think it's important to send a message to people that
I understand how our communities are helped. That is why
I'm on your show right now, and you have my
word that I'm going to do all I can to

(01:52:50):
ensure that people who are sending the message know the
people that we want to get the message to and.

Speaker 2 (01:52:58):
Just so y'all though last time she was she hit me.

Speaker 1 (01:53:00):
She's like Roland All, she said, all the calls I
got from folks in Ohio who saw me on your show,
I got to ask you this here, because Lord, you
set the internet a blaze with this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:18):
Good after them than.

Speaker 1 (01:53:22):
I was wonder if I was in this room by myself,
I gotta ask you. You had to be even surprised
with however, I said, Oh Lord, that's a black auntie
right there.

Speaker 31 (01:53:38):
I didn't even think anything about it at the time.

Speaker 2 (01:53:40):
You know. That's that's our culture.

Speaker 31 (01:53:42):
You speak people speak by right. I never thought about
it until everybody started talking about it, and Roland I
have been laughing about it ever since.

Speaker 2 (01:53:50):
I said, but I'll never.

Speaker 1 (01:53:52):
Live that one down.

Speaker 2 (01:53:53):
Well, you you know, from now on, wherever you go
anywhere in the country, when.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
You got to give us speech anywhere, it's gonna be
good afternoon, it's gonna be just go ahead, it's gonna
be a part of your introduction wherever you go. So
just go ahead and get prepared for that. That's my
love you, Roland. Comebye, Senator fuge I appreciate it. We
keep it real, keep it black that I dare say

(01:54:18):
that was a that was a that was a black
moment right there.

Speaker 2 (01:54:24):
Uh, John Quell, that was for sure.

Speaker 14 (01:54:28):
I mean I remember seeing that on television and it
just rebouted to be the Call and Answer you know,
where you're in church and they said good afternoon, and.

Speaker 5 (01:54:41):
When it's not and they're repeat themselves after that.

Speaker 14 (01:54:44):
So it just it just took me back to, you know,
being in church, growing up in church with that called
the Answer Series.

Speaker 5 (01:54:50):
So I enjoyed that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:53):
Yeah, I mean, I mean I still crack up because
she was like, I know, my I know, my say
this is room about myself, Larry, Like I know, I said,
good afternoon, man, y'all better say something.

Speaker 16 (01:55:07):
Black culture is undefeated. And now I remember when that happened.
And even it's funny because I did that to my
wife the other day a couple of days ago. You know,
you know, it's funny about like I said, the importance
of a black cat, black culture works, and like she said,
it was it's a genuine moment. Is my colleague just
highlighted that's her inflection of black culture. You always speak,

(01:55:28):
and you know when someone speaks, you speak back. And
if you don't there's a problem. So it's an iconic
moment and once again we will certainly miss her as
Secretary of Mustapha.

Speaker 11 (01:55:38):
Secretary Marsha Fudge is black excellence. And I know there's
lots of young girls who are watching who now know
that they could one day be the secretary of HUD
or something even higher.

Speaker 10 (01:55:50):
So I hope that we will continue to give her
her flowers.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
I did, so I gotta play that again.

Speaker 1 (01:55:56):
Hold on one second, I just because when we because
that was from our interview, but this was Jen Saki
introduced to her.

Speaker 18 (01:56:04):
Take this out back from the edge. She's happy to
take a couple of questions after she gives some remarks.

Speaker 5 (01:56:09):
Thank you again for draying you.

Speaker 18 (01:56:12):
Thank you very much, Jen, good afternoon, good afternoon.

Speaker 2 (01:56:19):
Oh thank you. Wonder if I was in this room
by myself.

Speaker 31 (01:56:26):
Thanks for inviting me to to speak about the importance.

Speaker 2 (01:56:29):
Oh I love it look like like y'all about to
get cussed out.

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
That's that's sort of how your mama or your grandmama
do when they walk into the room. Uh, and everybody
there they speaking like, I know, y'all as is gonna
speak back. So we absolutely, absolutely gonna miss Secretary Fudge,
so look forward to chatting with her before she gets
out of that office.

Speaker 2 (01:56:56):
Folks. That's it, Frost.

Speaker 1 (01:56:57):
Let me thank Larry John Quell was thoughtful for joining
us today on the palel.

Speaker 2 (01:57:01):
I certainly appreciate it. Thank you so very much. Let
me thank all of y'all for watching and listening as well.

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