November 30, 2022 • 71 mins
The first platinum-selling Hip Hop artist in the U.S. to win elected office – The Honorable Dupré L. Kelly –slides through to talk about governing where he grew up in Newark, NJ, after selling millions of records with the group Lords Of The Underground. (Back when he was known as ‘DoItAll’). He also breaks down the early days of the east coast hip-hop scene and how New Jersey is often left out of the conversation.
Thomas Lennon (Lieutenant Dangle, without his hot pants) joins the crew just in time for the release of the movie "Reno 911! It's a Wonderful Heist," premiering December 3rd on Comedy Central and then on the Paramount Plus App.
The New York Times Best Selling author opens up about his worst job and how his relationship with real law enforcement evolved over the years as ‘Reno 911’ grew. The screenwriter also shares the best advice he can recall and throws shade and praise.
Can a ventriloquist cross the line?
An email regarding comedian Jeff Dunham’s visit to the show leads the team to explore that question as they also discover that @RodForShort might have a ventriloquist act that could stir the pot even more than anything Jeff Dunham has ever conjured up.
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of him being accused by audience members of using the
N word a couple of times. This is a white comedian.
After that video surfaced, he was escorted off that goddamn
ship and they said, get your ass the funk up
out of here now. According to this comedian, um, it
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wasn't the fact that he said the N word once
and the joke was race related, not racists, per his
quote to t m z um, but the fact that
an audience member or two made a stink about him
saying the N word. They basically said, nobody was mad.
I said the Edward people was mad that they heard it. Like, like,
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that's the same thing. This is the thing that's wild though,
if they like, if you're in between ports on a
cruise ship as a comedian and you get fired, they
send a helicopter for your ass. What is cold blooded? Yo?
These cruise ship companies. You don't get an extra date, motherfucker.
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You're fired. Go get your ship and go stand by
the helipad. That sounds pretty cool to me. That's all
the more reason to get kicked up to their cruise
ship dropped in bonds lipping right, that's a golden that's
a golden parachute. That's like like, oh, should you're kicking
off the ship? I get to take a helicopter back
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to the country, Like yeah, oh oh this is awful.
Would to make this ship perfect if he got fired
for saying the N word and then he got on
that helicopter and that's a helicopter was taken off. He
looked down at the boat. It was like, how let
you niggas. My name is Roy, this is my job.
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Just the same tone and everything. It sounded like it's
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is this episode so long? Well? Is that what they say?
We're giving you a little extra dope this week. We
we normally don't break an hour other than Jesus Week
and the Freaky Dicky Week. When we was talking to
all the people, the only fans and the pastors back
to back. Not women, but that was a month or
that was a dedication. Yeah, that that don't count. You know.
We normally don't have two guests for worse than first,
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but I think it's important to lead off with this
person before we get into the whole rapping politics thing
this week, JJ, who do we have on the line.
It's Thomas Lennon. He is an actor, author, producer, and screenwriter,
and he's best known for his role as the ridiculous
Lieutenant Jim Dangle on You Know nine one one. Thomas
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is also an accomplished screenwriter and a script doctor. He's
written a number of successful films with his writing partner
Robert Bean garn It, including The Night at the Museum
franchise Taxi and They Watch. The Pairs also serve as
co creators of Reno nine one one. Today, Thomas will
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be talking to you Roy about his impressive career in
show business. Hello Thomas, Right, it's so nice to be here.
And the funny thing is I thought I had a
bad job and then when you said that I was
a screenwriter, I was like, oh, ship, that's the worst
job I've ever because I thought I was going to
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come on and talk about something totally different, and then
I remembered what it was like to be a screenwriter,
and I was like, oh no, no, Roy, I couldn't know.
It's a good The film premier of Comedy Central December three,
streaming on a Paramount plus app after that. If you're
hearing this later, it's called It's a Wonderful Heist, a
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Reno one movie. Eliot brother Lennon, we don't have a
lot of time, but I have one Reno nine one
one question. Do members of the law enforcement community view
your program as a friend or foe to the perceptions
of law enforcement. I'm not just starting that. This ain't
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no deep ask question. I'm not trying to get you
to talk about the police reforms some ship. Just in
the sense of when you're walking down the street and
a cop recognize you, is it a scowl or a smile.
This is an interesting and it has definitely changed over time.
So I think when the show first came out, when
Reno nine, when one first came out, the actual Reno
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Police Department got a lot of angry calls and letters
that there that their officers were behaving so horribly on camera. Now,
of course we're the Reno Sheriff's Department, which doesn't exist.
That's fake and correct. So there was a weird vibe
at the beginning. There's a weird vibe at the beginning,
for sure. And I will say now that we're a
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hard and twenty five episodes in and three movies, it's
just different. It's hard to get a ticket with the
lieutenant dango mustache. It's pretty hard to get a ticket. Really.
I was going to a short. Okay, I'm gonna say
something that's kind of weird about myself. I have in
the car in case I need to give it to somebody.
I have like a nine one one badge with like
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a patch and then like a card from the California
Highway Patrol. And my wife asked me the other day,
She's like, how are you different from herschel walker buck
jees a slow with a badge? And I'm like, I
don't take that. So it's a wonderful heightst talk to
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us a little bit about how you are were able
to mix Christmas time with police work, because those two
on paper you don't necessarily think about. But also talk
to us a little bit about just the improv elements
and how you all work through a scene, because the
show feels more like jello than concrete in terms of
the script. The improvisational nature of the show is also
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the answer to everything else about the show, which is
it is the only reason it has survived and people
have tried to copy it. Uh, you know in shows,
but you have to have Nisy, and you have to
have Cedric, and you have to have Carrie. You've got
to have like all those elements. By the way, Nsy
was going back and forth between doing the jeff Dahmers
Show and Are Dumb Christmas Movie, and she would she
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would do double duty, like she would just come like
she would one day be doing like the scariest scenes
in the world, and that you'd come in and play
t T where she's running around the Bounty House. So
she has the best like work schedule in the world
where she can come run around with me in a
jock strap and then the next day like SOB has
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to sob with Jeffrey like Jammers eating people next door
in the Hart. Somebody somebody was joking on Twitter about
niss As that she left Reno nine one one to
work for the Fits because now she's on abcous she
got she got a ship together, y'all, y'all have ruined
her for me. For the record, it is so hard
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for me to watch her as a cop and being
serious on Fits when for years I've watched her just
rolling around with a rena. No. It's it's a hell
of a transition. I know, it's amazing. We're very lucky
that she still comes in and even after all the
Emmy nominations and everything, that she still comes and visits.
As the only reason the show has kept going in
a big way is because of the unscripted nature and
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because what we're all saying to which other one. We're
all really good friends. Uh, and now we've known each other,
you know, we shot the pilot in the year two thousand,
so like we've seen everything come and go, and in
those morning briefing scenes on the show, you can always
tell like no one's approved what we're saying to each other.
It's like what it's like the most people. Yeah, like
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no one's no one's vetted all this dumb ship that
we talked about. So I think that's why it feels
like honest conversations between people, and I think that that
feels rare because you know, a lot of times you
see shows where things are carefully scripted, and we obviously
don't do that, you know. And then the other thing is,
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you know a lot of people were like, yeah, in
the world where cops are so glorified, And I'm like,
if you think cops have been glorified on Reno number one,
you have never seen the show because you whippets in
the car and people are your bicycle where people got
going on on this show that made the trailer of
the movie. So, Thomas Lynnon, you have start in innumerable
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television shows and movies and your writing career it's been
illustrious and stand up comedy followed after years of toiling
in the improv scene and perfecting that skill set and researcher,
I did some digging. M oh New York Times best
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selling author as well, Jacqueline his brother, has been three
young adult novels um all about the character Ronan Boil
Grown and Boil in the Bridge of Riddles and the
Swamp of Certain Death and Ronan Boiled Into the Strange
Place on the Boil in the Bridge of riddles, but
befoll of that. He was a broke motherfucker. I'm gonna
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know about it, and I want to know about that
time in your life. Tell us about that job, Thomas
and Lennon, when that struggle, when your ribs was touching,
when you and your roommate had to split a fucking
McRib over the course of two days. Don't eat that.
Tell us about the worst of first job. I'm sorry
for raising my voice. Respect one of the most interesting
jobs I've ever had, and I think it was very
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good practice for being an actor and also writing. I
did telemarketing and I was down on a bank of phone.
It was about eight or twelve of us in a
basement and we're like regular telephones like we used to have,
you know, like a telephone that was connected to the
to the wall on a cord Lan line. It was incredible.
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They brought me in and they're like, well, you're new,
so we're gonna give you the worst one that exists.
And I was like, what am I doing? And they're like,
here's a stack of computer paper with like two thousand
puns on it and names just numbers, and you've got
to call the list and these were all people that
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had made a telephone call on an airplane. Airphone remember
when the airplanes, I don't know if you guys remember
have a phone you can spe card and it would
pretend to call somebody and you would scream that call
you from an airplane, just to call you from an airplane,
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and you would scream it. And the thing about the
air phone, and it was weirdly it was in the
middle seat of the three seats, as if you were
just casually talking to people and the other people were
get a ship just reaching over people. Can I use
that middle phone seat? So everybody hated the air phone.
It was the worst idea in the history of the world.
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And it also apparently didn't work. Oh, I had to
call all every single person on my list had a
complaint about the telephone call that they had made from
an airplane. The people that obviously the people that are
gonna already complain about they didn't like the phone service
on the airplane. They're not going to be nice when
you call them at dinner time. I said, Hi, this Thomas.
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I'm calling from you know, such and such industries, and
you know, we know you had a problem with the
air phone. Call and it didn't work out. We just
wanted to follow up with a couple of questions, and
generally the response would be, Thomas, I hope one day
you have a family so that I can I will
call you during dinner and I will ruin your evening.
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That was the one that stuck with me forever. I
was like, I don't know, people can be really really mean.
All the things you've learned so far, and all the
things you've done so far, what has been some of
the best advice or anything that you've learned because of me? Personally,
when people stop listening, I stopped talking, so that actually
saves me time and energy. So any good advice, if
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you could be nice when you get fired from something,
that's basically the best thing you can do in the
entire world, Like be the person that they want to
hire again when somebody else messes up, because like it's
going to come up all the time. There's only so
many people out there, and there's only so many people
that do what you do. And some people will be
lovely and a lot of fun and great to work with,
and some people will be enormous pains in the apps.
Be the great x that they dream about. You know,
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I like where you going out when somebody else gets
the job, make them wish that was still you. You
know from how nice you were when you got fired.
I just want to ask you, Thomas, very quickly, please
telling me what it was like to work with Weird
going Weird. I'm a fit and I've watched that one
with my kids, but I can't even lie like it was.
It was an amazingly funny, one of the greatest movies ever.
I'm so proud of that. Al has been like my
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best friend for about sixteen seventeen years. Wally and I
met him one day. I walked up to him at
the at the office, the Staples office supplies, and I said, Hey,
you're weird. How it's like you're Lieutenant. I'm like, let's
be friends. We've been friends for seven That's awesome. We
look forward to this film. It's a wonderful heightst December
third on Comedy Central Arena nine one one Game Rides
Again and uh after December third, it's on the Paramount Plus.
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I get that wherever you stream media legally, Thomas, Linda,
thanks for representing our parent company, Viaticom by saying strange
Parking Press Production paramount plus it. Please get the subscription
and get the fucking one. They don't pay for it's
paid the good money. And one time we ordered a
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viacom to see how much money they owed us, and
it turned out we owed them thirty thous dollars for
all ship for the truth, don't take for the truth.
Thomas Linna, thank you so much for coming on the job.
Fair brother, thank you very much, appreciate it. Third, I'd
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like to pose a question to you before we bring
this guest on which industry do you think it's shadier?
That's easy. The music industry, record industry or politics. Wait
a minute, you do a caveat. Yeah, yeah, record industry,
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all politics? Which one is shady? As a native Washingtonian,
Uh yeah, bro, you already know I'm going politics. Ain't
nothing shadier than politics, Bro, I ain't going front on
the big stage. I don't know, though, I don't know.
To me, the difference between the two is that in
Paul Takes, you know it's shady from the jump, and
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you figure out how to navigate the shadiness. The music
industry is built on lies that you don't discover our
lies until five years into the game and it's too late,
and I just signed to everything, and the next thing,
you know, motherfucker's hangy outside of a window of a
hotel window balcony demanding that you're signed over your goddamn
mask his office hours, which are from nine to five.
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I understand what you're saying. Really, I get it. I
get it. Oh, you're talking about five horbies. I was
talking about you like, that's so much safer comparison. I
respect that you. Just save my ass, that's right. I
was talking about big great um. When we talk about,
you know, hip hop and wrap, it's one of those
interesting occupations that they don't talk much about the second act.
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They don't talk much about quote unquote retirement or what
you're going to pivot into because you know, the record
industry is always chasing people that are young, new and
the latest shiny thing. So it's always to have brothers
that have figured out what they're going to do and
elevate what they have been doing. And we have exactly
that type of person on the line. J G. We'll
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welcome the honorable du pre Kelly Counselor. Kelly joins us
from Newark, New Jersey. He's an HBCU graduate and a
member of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity. He spent years in
the music industry as a member of the hip hop
group Lords of the Underground. In June of this year,
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he became the first platinum selling rapper in the US
to win elected office. Prior to joining prior to joining politics,
he played an active role in his hometown of Newark
through his non profit two one one Community Impact. So
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we welcome the honorable dupre Kelly. Hello, now, Lords of
the Underground, this wonderful group that you were a part of.
You all came around at the time, and I'm from
the South. I'm from album from out there, man, shout
out there, everybody and a half. Then you know what
the music vibes were down there. It was more West
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Coast and the South was very much US and a
stuff and Texas. It was Texas and California track. So
what you all were doing was innovative because it felt
East coast. We knew it was East coast ish, but
it didn't. It's somehow fit into what the Southern ideology
was because you all weren't necessarily trying to fit in
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with everything else that everybody was doing. Walk us through
because whoever, whatever you are now, that ship was in
you way back they come the Lord to look he
was probably thinking of He was probably thinking of ways
to stop hunger while opening up for us, like walk
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us through what you were feeling at the time in
the music industry and how that led to you starting
to run for public office. And if I'm not mistaken,
I'll check book of her Yard's data here in the second.
But you lost the first time we learn, we took
a l. We took a learn. We don't call it
a lass. We took nice Yeah, I mean then, um,
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just just a just auh interject on what y'all was
talking about of how laws of the underground, didn't you know,
we felt East Coast is, but you know it tied
into so many other people. I think that's because we
were in college. You know, we were at an H
B c U University and Raleigh shout out from Chicago.
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We had people from California. We had our DJ from Cleveland, Ohio,
from the o H Tent, you know, from the heights
in Cleveland. You know, so we had so many different sounds,
uh that you know hip hop, you make hip hop,
you know from your your environment from your surroundings. That's
the way I was taught to hip hop, whether he
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was on the East Coast or West coast, you know.
So we had so many different things that were in
our circumference and our surroundings back then that made up
the sound. And then the East Coast part is we
have Molly Maull who was like Russell Simmons back then,
and a dude from New Jersey who kept it Jersey
by the name of a DJ K Death. So that
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rounded out and made up with the sound of Lords
of the Underground is l a manager, a North manager,
a Cleveland DJ, two rappers from New New Jersey from
two different sides, you know. And then you had a
you know, a manager who was Muslim, a manager who
was straight out of college who was a blood you know,
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um and all making music in the city with the
wall Great, great, you know what I mean. So it
really it really compiled, compiled all of all of that
energy to one one studio and and that's what you got, man.
You you got a jumbo of of college kids who
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was excited to be capturing their dreams and to tie
it all into you saying what was I doing then?
And was I on the same thing I was. Man.
That is, you know, a testament to my my manager,
one of our managers. We had two managers back then
by a brother by the name of hot feast Free
who was a Muslim brother. So you know you got
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Muslim brothers from Just think of my man from Minister
Society with the ball head and he was like brother,
you know, that was our manager. Just think of a
grown version of him. You know when we not paved.
He thirty, so just think of a grown version of
that guy. With these young men that come from a
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wild place like New New Jersey, a wild it's like
leaving Ohio. So you know, we started out with with
the B words and the F bombs and the the
you know, nick nick, nick nick, you know, all of
that type of stuff. But we had a manager who
never really told us what to do, but he did
question what we did, you know, and he would say, uh,
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you know, so if we dropped the B word in
our ram, he would say, oh that that that sounds cool.
He's like, who are you talking about? Your mother? And
we'd be like, what what you're talking about? You're talking
to old Like, no, no, you said that that you
was with this be over here and over there? Who
are talking about your mother, your sister, your grandmother. Were like,
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you're trying to be funny. He's like, no, I'm just
I'm just asking you because that's what some women are
gonna think. So what are you What the point are
you trying to get it? Yeah? He wasn't telling us
to take it out though, but by time he came
back to the studio, it was gone because he was
challenging us type away, prioritive energy, active face, constant elevation, right,
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and if we had a bunch of N words in
the music, he would say, you know, uh, well where's
the rat pot? You know, conscious tricks you'a were young guys,
And if I'm being really honest, Lawyers in an Underground
came out right around the same time as Red Man,
right around the same time before Dots Affects. The stuff
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that y'all did on that first album, I felt as
if a lot of people just kind of emulated what
you guys kind of started. You know what I'm saying, like,
because you're alware young kids, you're always super young kids
when y'all did that, and I personally feel like y'all
lad a certain wave of that nineties era hip hop.
Your third I gotta salute you, bro, because you you
gotta be a hip hop head to really understand that.
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And let me tell you why why I'm saluting you,
because I know you understand it, because you if you
You're only gonna understand it if you paid attention right now.
What I mean by that is I introduced Red Man
the EP m D. I introduced Red Man. Every time
Eric Sherman was coming to New Jersey to sign Do Pray, Kelly,
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do it All? Not Red that was my DJ. I've
heard that story. I never knew that was you that
he came to sign Crazy. He was coming to sign me,
and I got sick, and I told my boy, so
everyone's coming to see me. See what happened was myself,
a brother by the name of jam C who runs
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a dope podcast now, another brother by the name of
Breeda Bega who introduced us to Bismarck and all the
graffiti cats like Case Slay and all of them. Back
in the day, they used to always go to New
York and they were real tight on the hip hop scene.
So I started to get my name up freestyle and
at the clubs and winning all of the talent shows.
That's when the communities had talent shows. And Red Man
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was my DJ, and Uh jam C said, Joe, I
got this brother by the name of sport D who
we called these don He got a bunch of compute
studio stuff in his living and he's a chef, but
but he's a producer. So we went over to his house.
You know, got got real cool with him. And long
story short. We used to look on the back of
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the cassettes and the albums and look at the managements
and the record labels and we used to go visit them.
So we started to go visit UM Rush Management, which
was downtown at this time, you know UM. And when
we went in there, you know, it's a small office
building and everybody who you loved in the hip hop
in the hip hop world come through that came through
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there from Rudini and they was the stars back then,
Like when they walked in the building, O My God
and LLL COO J and and run DMC. They was managed,
but they wasn't. They weren't on the label. And uh
flavor flavor and I'll shout out the flavor flavor because
every time he saw us in the in that hallway,
he would make sure he would take us to the
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corner store and get chips and juice, you know, and
uh pe and those little moments are so but they
used to always make us wait your way here in
the lobby. Of course we waited four hours, five hours,
six yeah, because that was that was the thing, like
we're gonna make you wait and until you leave or
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you don't leave. And we one night, just to fast forward,
one night, we waited so long that we heard. We
used to hear all, you know, people started they chatting
all through the office, so we heard everything that was
going on, and um we heard that um uh it
was E p M D having a gold party that
was coming up. So I went home. We went home
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and I called w BLS and just happened to win tickets.
So I want to tickets. That's it. But it was
four of us. So I came back the next day.
We waited again and I said, don't you have a
gold party coming up for ep M D? Can we go?
And Faith, who turned into an executive, she was just
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working in the lobby. She said, I'll give you two passes.
I put your name on it on for two. So
I was like that, I already got two tickets from winning.
So I got my whole And that was me, Brena Begger,
Jam C and Red Man, who was just Reggie Noble
at the time, and we went in there and UM
and jam and every I was the rapper, so everybody,
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you know, I was like, next up, jam C and
pre wrap two. But I was like that dude at
the time. So everybody was telling Eric, yo, he's that guy.
Come come rock with him. And uh, he said, Yo,
I'm gonna be downe Sensations, They're gonna be done. There's
a club called Sensations, and you know that's gonna be done.
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This Sensations. You know what they say, you come down.
I'm gonna have Pete down, you know, come down some reason.
You know, I'm seventeen years old at this time. For
so for some reason, I don't know, if I got
sick or something happened, well, I couldn't go. So I called.
I called Red and I said, Yo, you gotta go.
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You gotta go down there for the crew. Now, Red
was an incredible freestyle and dude. He used to DJ
and grabbed the mic in freestyle while he was DJ
and which made the set do so long story short man,
he went down there and my guy Bread a beggar
who raped to breed a beggar. If you listen to
the Lords of the Underground, um, he's the one saying
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never faded on the record call never faded. He's the
one steer up and and he told him, he said, Yo,
where's the rapper And he's like, oh, he's not here.
And he said, well, well, Red Red rhym two and
Red had Jest wrote the rhym that week reekend and
that was a red Man ready to rock. They gave
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rapper when his rhum time, pump, push your pendon pence,
when I'm pissed packed, piss through posse flow some more approach.
That was the rapp. He said he had just wrote it,
and they went crazy and dot Car he called me that.
He called me that night like yo, I raped for him.
He went crazy. They said they want us to come
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to the house. Now we're thinking we epm D. So
we went. We went downtown north to Dr Jayson, bought
the same sneakers, the same jacket, just like we caught
the train in Long Island, you know, Central Icelip and
went to Eric's house, you know, er hamburger with an
egg on it, you know, And and then that's how
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that's how they got down with with ep m D.
And and then so now you're down with ep m D.
So I can't fund on Red. He brought me in.
But you know, I'm the type of dude I'm not
gonna knock your opportunity because if it's my man, I
feel like it's all of us, you know, even though
they was coming to get me first, I felt like,
if I'm with Red now, you got both of us now.
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And uh. They had these two other guys that were
from college that went to Virginia Union. I believe it
was another HBCU, but that was Peace group and they
were called one of them from Jersey and he kept saying,
do it all you help me Parrish Smith from m D.
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And Parrish would tell me, yo, do you sound you
remind me of my my dude I got from college.
He was talking about dres You know, Dreys was from Jersey.
So Dreys was that that Jersey sound. So when you
hear dost right, when you hear every um Red man,
that is really my influence initially in the Jersey sound.
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And that's why when Dots Effects came out before us
and Red Man came out before Lords and We came out,
everybody was saying, man, it's something about the energy. Y'all
sound like DOS. I was like, how do you sound
like dogs? And we don't do any dignity, dignity, nothing
at all, But it was the energy here comes the Lords,
like the horns, the voice, even the way that the
lyrics are delivered. It's just a fire energy to it.
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You know why here comes the Lords had that energy
because we were upset. We felt like all of the
energy that we did inside of Eric's house in front
of parish and everybody, we felt like that it was
taken from us. And so now when you hear even
(31:32):
us doing this in the video, all of that was
was towards DOS at the time when um a funky
wake up, Uh, it's turned on the radio. It's us.
It's us. Yeah, listen to the cut. It's our style,
our style, your style, No, your style. We're saying that
our style is on the radio before we're on the radio.
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That's what we were talking about, you know. So you
know all of that that you felt and help that's
that's where that's where you know it came from. Man,
have questions, Roy, job Fair, We'll be right back, job Fair.
(32:19):
The honorable dude pre Kelly standing about the scam scam
of the week. We're gonna talk a little bit more
about that world of rap music and whatever was like
coming up with Lords of the Underground and that entire
hip hop scene and the fact that he was kicking
it with E. P. M D And Red Man Third
back when he was just Reggie Noble, right, Red Man
was his DJ, his DJ, like that's just nu rock.
(32:46):
We turned it over to you. This is the part
to show if you new to the job Fair, where
we uh talk about topics that you could bring up
with coworkers you can't stand. We call the segment breaking
the hest to help us do that, so our resident
white people, black people, allogists, his mom named and Murado.
We call him Rod for short. Right before we get
to the ship with you little snap food last week,
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apparently I didn't see it as a snapp We're gonna
unpack this ship real quickly, turn it over the Rod now.
And I waited specifically for Rod's segment because I wanted
to get his opinion, as well as a comedian and
fellow ventriloquist. I'm I'm being told I did not know
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you did ventriloquism. Rod. You can throw your voice. I
don't believe that the truth. Don't care whether you believe
it or not. Do it, do it, do it, throw
your books. I don't believe you, not for free. I respect.
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So we had Jeff John him on the program and
Jeff Dunham. As you know, over the course of thirty
forty years of being a ventual, it was made a
lot of different dummies that starting a lot of stereotypical
places with some of the jokes, and you know people
who call them racists. Um. I had him on the
program last week. I understand the card an email. I
know normally you don't want to acknowledge someone who don't
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like you, but I respect the job fair community and
the people who care enough to type a fucking message.
Then I'll give you the dignity of a response. J G.
Who's talking in the email? It's Mike and the email says, hey, y'all,
I am disappointed to see you bringing on a guest
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that has repeatedly committed some of the most offensive racist
portrayals on stage. I thought you were better than this,
and you know why. You know why granting us up.
First off, Mike, thank you for the email. Royce job
Fair gmail dot com if you want the email us
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and tell us sween ship. But that last sentence, that's
what hurt. Yeah. I taught you like when your parents,
when your daddy like I'm disappointed in you. I we
don't need to reply to that. It's fine. That's his opinion, dude.
He said that I was like, ship, we gotta talked
to me about this ship. I don't want the fact
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the ins and outs of it is because my thing
is this. I understand the accusations that have been put
at Jeff down him by a lot of different groups
over the course of his career. But if you go
back and listen to the tapes from last week, I
asked him specifically about Sweet Daddy d the Black PIP
because I feel like he's a black person. That's the
only thing I can ask him about it. I can't
bring Jeff down him on this show and go, well,
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what do you say about all this ship? What you
kind of already said when he was talking about the
Cancel Culture ship part at the interview so I can
ask him about the black Dummy, which he copped to
said shouldn't have done it, couldn't do it. What I
discovered is that I can't think black, so I stopped
doing Sweet Daddy d for me. Fucking that's enough. Let's
keep talking about comedy for me. But I understand, I
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understand issues, Mike. You know, we try to do as
best we can on this acoustical radio presentation to bring
doing interesting people. And you know, when else are you
gonna talk to him? Motherfucker that been talking to dolls
since the fourth grade. So we try to find interesting
And I'm being serious right now, I'm glad you can't
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back that up. Y'all are lighting and you're fucking up
and trying to explain myself to sound like that. I
think it was in the tenth grade friend let's have
a tea party with his imaginary friend, like you gonna
be one thing and too rides Credit. I feel like
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that must be said to rides Credit. Before we had
Jeff denim On, he was the one that was like,
are we sure we want to do this, Dada? And
we were like, yees should be fine. And then to
your credit as an interviewer, Ruin, you didn't bring it up.
He dumped the shark, Yeah, and then the whole Chris
Tucker story and all of that. My thing is this
is that where the black dummy is concerned. Jeff Donovan
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admitted that he didn't know what the funk he was doing.
He tried to do it, he said he didn't know
what the funk he was doing. He stopped doing, and
then he said what he said about black women, women
dummies in general. So, in terms of trying to hold
his feet to the fire to make him account for
all the racial sins of every single dummy that's piste
off every other group, I didn't feel like that was
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my agency, so I didn't bring it up. Right, Can
you be racist as a ventriloquist if you are then
disappearing into the persona of another thing? I have to say, yes,
absolute lutely you can. But if you're just doing if
Jeff Dunham just did a black voice and didn't have
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a dummy on stage, like you know what, my black pimp,
I'll be smacking bitches. Then I would be like, yo, man,
this is my fun kid, Come on my show. But
then I guess what I'm saying is if you craft
racism in a garage, does that make it not racist? Go? Well,
that doesn't, like, I mean, just because it's a joke,
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that doesn't make it okay. And so just because his
characters are supposedly the ones that are offensive, I mean,
it's still on him. I look at it like this.
If his explanation is he won't do the Black man
Dunny anymore because he doesn't he can't think like a
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black person and things of that nature, then why does
he do any of the other puppets that aren't just
white men his own age? Can he think like a
dead terrorist, a Middle Easterner, a Muslim, an old man,
a kid want all of this? Hispanic halapino and all
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that ship? I think? But all the reason he doesn't
do the black puppet is because he's white. And that's
pretty much the most blatant form of racism in America
is to be racist towards black people, and black people
would beat the ship out of you too, and the
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back of your point whereight black women to beat your
ass too? Like, don't think that you can go out
there and make fun of sisters and then just be
walking the street, and that's some sisters ain't gonna confront you.
Would have been suicide. I don't think has there been
any in the history of ventriloquism. Has there been a
black woman dummy operated by a man, Not that I
can think of. I actually like pushing the envelope from
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a comedic standpoint, But where I draw the line is
what do you mean how a black person or a
black man or a black woman thinks. That's where I
take issue because that's when it gets stereotypical. That's when
it gets into the shocking and jiving. I always want
him or anyone to push the envelope. What was what
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I took it as during the conversation, Because he talked
about a redneck, he could know what the general want
was that that person. He knows that the terrorists is angry,
So every response should start with anger as the driving
emotion to write the dialogue for whatever that joke is
for a black person. Black people are not a monolith
and niggas is different all over, and he recognized it
because what he didn't want to fall into. It's just
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a simple basic style of black type of character. If
you look at who he's entertaining, which is Middle America.
Then most Middle Americans view terrorists or view from a
stereotypical sense from when you start to remember Jeff Dunham
pop two years to three years after nine eleven. So
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we wasn't sparsing Muslims into all these different buckets that
we do now. We weren't sparse the Middle Easterners into
the like. We weren't doing that, so he could operate
from one single North Star behavioral truth to create that dummy.
Then with the heel billy, everybody do the same fucking
accent with the hell billy. You think that you're not
sparsing hell billy's the way you do black people from
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intellectuals to hood motherfucker's to dreadlocks, to people with fucking degrees,
to people down in the Caribbean with you know, Caribbean accents.
So the Black Brits like it's too many different black
people that they're gonna be like, hey man, why do
you only think niggas talk like that? I got to
fight you. Yeah, okay, so rod, So what you're saying
is that no matter what, the only doll that someone
(41:48):
can portray is themselves and then not have the risk
of offending someone. Yeah, but just because you offend somebody
doesn't mean you've done anything wrong. But yeah, like there's
the only like, so far, you can take a character.
There's a difference between a character and a person. And
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it's like you can be Jeff Donham, a white dude
and do just some black cartoon character or some ship
or like like his black puppet. If it wasn't so stereotypical,
if it was just an old black man and the
only voice he was doing was just an older black
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man talking like older black man do, it would be
no proflem that's because it was a like, yeah, like
that's just a person, that's an old person, is just
a person. But this puppet he does is a specific
black pimp, old stereotype, and that's what you get into
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trouble man. But he stopped doing it. That was my
whole anyway, Thank you for the email, Mike. You appreciate you.
If you're still listening, we appreciate you giving us another
chance fucking this week. Thank you. Down South, Georgia girl,
uh search for a black woman ventriloquists yields one motherfucker? Really?
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Who is it? Willie Tyler I shouldn't say motherfucker because
this is actually a wonderful young woman, Megan Pyphus Uh
the Vanderbilt and she is now a puppeteer et Sesame Street.
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So she didn't even do comedy. They was like, yo,
you got to come teach kids. Well, Sesame Streets started
out for inner city kids and their issues. So Megan
started puppetry and ventriloquism at the age of ten years
old and taught us puppetry by watching VHS tape. I
bet you she watched Jeff Donham, but she came up
on Damn. She was on the Tonight Show with Jay
(44:01):
Leno when she was in college. Okay, so this girl
did the damn things. The first Bleran in the history
to be a puppeteer Street, you know what, let's call it.
We didn't have a CMO earlier because we talked to
Thomas Lennon making pippa rating. God, damn ventuloquism, dolls, you
(44:22):
are most outstanding employee of the week now, o can
We didn't let her to our Christmas party and when
she comes, I'm gonna do my Elmo impersonation the party.
What is it? Getting the Amazon gift card via email.
Check your spam what it's going to be? Check right,
(44:51):
real quick, right before we get into he's breaking the
ice street. What is your doll? Since the rules of
your true aquism are that you must have a doll
that is in alignment with whatever the funk you fucking do,
bring him up right, Yes, sir? Hey guys, what's your name?
(45:15):
This is the West. He is a KKK Grand Wizard,
Grand Wizard. I don't know what you're talking about. For
the people, for the people listening, I have to paint
(45:35):
the picture. Please give me a second, beautiful. On Rod's
right hand is a hooded figure wearing a red hood
with the red clan rope, and but he has the
google eyes like those little eyes you stick on check
a red so he looks like a wacky clansman. Right,
(46:01):
Please tell me you're not doing Nikki You have a
clan doll? Yes, I do. We're an imprompty. Jeff Dunham
is safe for doing a black puppet in the South,
doing a clansman ventriloquism. At what the fuck? Rod? Men?
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The winds are hit. Okay. The first time I ever
did the Winds was at the Gate Club in Memphis.
Shout out the Drews Place. He loves to show at
Drew's Place at Memphis, shout out the Drews Place. And uh,
we had a great time comedy unit at a gate
club and you walked on stage with a puppet and
(46:46):
a clans rot and everybody loved. Mike is Mike is
typing up a new email to us right now. The
only reason I'm not gonna ask you to do part
of the act is because I feel like it won't
come through properly through people's ears, and that's not fair
to whatever the funk this is going on on my
screen right now. It deserves to be seen live. Just
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judge it on all of the merits of performance. So
I'm not going to do that to you. I am
going to ask you to put that thing away, please please.
I can't even learn. Yes, let's y'all, look at you all,
Freedom place. I don't even know where mine is. Is
(47:34):
that material authentic? Oh? Yeah, that's real? Sad and baby,
I'm scaled number the best for the whist they clan
wizard dummy? Did you do for wism with it? What
the fuck is wrong with you? Man? Wait a minute, wait,
(47:57):
I have a question for him. I have a question
for question, righty right, hey, right? Using Jeff Dunham's logic,
he stopped talking to black people doing a black publet
because he didn't know black people. How are you? How
are you able to think like a klansman? Because because
once again there's a difference between a person and a
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character the wiz he has, you're assuming he's white. First
of all, you're just assuming he's a white man. And
that's racist. Alright, first all, let's get that straight. Y'all
a bunch of racist. But that's right. The Wiz isn't.
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He's just a singular thing. The Wiz is just a
k k K grad wizard. He's not a person dressed
up and meet inputting thoughts and trying to figure out
how this person would act. Where is this just the whist? Mike? Um, Mike.
I want you to know that I had every intention
(49:09):
of like taking your email serious and having a really
balanced conversation about who has agency and not agency to
be mad on the behalf of other groups, and whether
or not people who have done offensive things have a
right to explain themselves and be had their feet held
to the fire. I did not know that this conversation
(49:29):
was gonna end, would have goddamn clansman on the Rodo's
right hand. And I'm sorry, Mike, I defy you to
find a clansman who has seen that act and thought
it was a you know what, Rod, I don't even
know if I want a story from you today. I
(49:50):
feel like this is enough. I think I'm gonna call
this one ye scam of the week term j G.
I believe you had a question for Brother Duke, pretty
curious about where did you learn your work ethic? And
then I'm also curious about what do you have in
your life that's worth more than money to you? Um?
(50:13):
Where did I learn my work ethic? I learned my
work ethic from a lot of great mentors, you know,
um coming up in my in my life as a
young male child trying to maneuver through a city like Newton, Jersey,
which is similar to Compton, which is similar to Cleveland,
which is similar you know to Southwest d c. And
all of those type of places in Detroit, in the Chicago.
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At some point, Um, I was looking for things that
those mentors that that weren't around. So when I couldn't
find them, I tried to become become what I was
looking for, you know, UM, and I found them in
spurps in different places. You know, the rap version of
me is somebody who never made it. Is my guy
(50:56):
Shake from my block. Shake was the fly is the
you know when you was when you were in hip hop,
you know, fashion was key, you know, like how you
how you dress. That's why the dancers when they did
their backspins, they always had had a fly jean jackets
with the graffiti on it and the you know, the
m c s had to have a bell kangos with
the belt like you had to be fly. So Shake
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was that guy who was flying on our block and
he could wrap. So I wanted to Shake as a rapper.
He just never made it, you know what I mean.
And and when it comes to when it comes to
like uh, just maneuvering through community in the block and
utilizing um, if you're in the community, do something other
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than like I was influenced by drug dealers, by the boys,
but not to sell drugs. I was influenced by them
to be fly. I was influenced by them to to
move ahead in life and utilize what you have to
make something out, you know, out of nothing like. I
was influenced by them to do that, and then by
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doing that, I ran into people who saw something in
me as well. Eighth grade teachers who who like God
bless uh. Mr Nicholas e. Bokwa who was my eighth
grade teacher, and I just thought he was being a
pain in the butt. But he was really short and
I could have one foot in and one foot out.
So after school, he would make sure that not only me,
(52:23):
but like a group of five of my guys and
all of us are doing well with deception of maybe one,
you know, um. And he made sure all five of
us stayed out because he knew we were smart enough,
you know, just like they're superheroes, they're supervillains. He whatever,
if we were we couldn't become a superper hero, we
definitely would have been super villains, you know what I mean.
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And he noticed that, he became a mentor and then
you have, um, you have hot feast for read who's
stuck in there the longest. Became the manager of laws
of the underground, became like a father figure. He was
the type of dude who was actually the chief of
staff for a councilman at that time. By the name
of Ralph Grant, the third Dr Ralph Grand Dr Reverend
(53:06):
Ralph Grant. So I got into a little trouble joy
riding with some friends from my neighborhood. And Ralph Grant
is the one who got me out. At the time,
I played baseball and was real good in the state.
And I lost all my baseball scholarships for this joy ride,
you know. And uh, he's the only one that came
to my aid, wrote letters to the courts, and you know,
(53:27):
uh when Tom came to my school, got all of
my grades and showed them that I wasn't really a
bad kid. I just made a mistake getting in the
Brone car at that time. And um, he got me
a partial baseball scholarship to Shaw University. I went down there,
I joined that that the acting coalition, you know. Uh.
I played baseball for a little while until I hurt
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my knee, and I became popular in Shaw University. And
that's where I met our other manager who was Molly
Mas's cousin. Introduced us to Mally Mall but that guy
Hot Feest for read. Once we got popular, he showed
us what community was. He made sure that all the
success we had through Lads of the Underground at that
even before Laws of the Underground. You go to these
(54:13):
schools and perform. You go to with what the people
like you. You give them, You give them the talent
that you're supposed to have it, and you cater to
them and you build up your repertoire. And that's what
we did. Man. So when you ask the council, you
have to answer my other question, what what was that?
My other question is what's in your life that's more
(54:34):
important than money? Um, in my life that's more important
than money. Money is not an important factor in my life.
It's a necessity, but it's not you know, I don't
do anything for money. I do things for legacy at
this age, now you know what I mean, Like I
just want to do it, okay, you know, uh A
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lot of times I think that I was doing it
for respect too, because I feel like we were so
close to New York when it came to hip hop,
and I'm speaking of New New Jersey that we felt
like the Sixth Borough, the lost borrow, the people who
didn't get their love. That's why we went so hard
and even till this day, if you talk about the
nineties of hip hop. You can't mention the nineties without
(55:20):
talking about New Jersey running hip hop. They might mention
Red Man, they might mention Lauren Hill. In the nineties,
we went so hard because we felt like we didn't
get any love for anybody. And that produced the Fuji's
you know, from Laurence Wild, Cleff, Underground, Queen Lati, Lost Boys,
um you know, uh excuming out the Lost Boys, um uh,
(55:47):
the outside excuse me, the outsiders and the outlaws, you know.
Um that produced Red Man, that produced Apache, that produced
um uh Wise Intelligent, that prt prt on Man. You
got so many I can go on and on. Rock Digger,
the greatest female MC of all time, right, Digger, you
(56:09):
need to say that, the greatest female MC of all time. Right,
you gotta say that. But people they I mean Norty
by Nature Uh Channel Live, Um, that's them who changed
their name to the Artifacts. There's so many different groups,
and when you talk about when people talk about the nineties,
they don't mention that. They don't mention all of that.
(56:30):
They don't mention how New Jersey ran hip hop in
the nineties. And I'm talking about platinum artists, so and
they talk one half of dots effects and you know
it's just so many more and more. But that's what
what kind of powered us. And to answer your question,
the thing that is worth more than money is actually
chasing your passion, living your passion out in real time.
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That's way that's worth way more than money because if
you live your passion out the money and the monetary
things that have come to you. You know, when you
do something you love and you love it, you'll create
for yourself. You'll create a pathway for yourself financially, you know. So.
But if you just do it for money, I'm not
saying that you won't have you won't have some type
(57:14):
of riches that come to you, but it won't last
and it would be done for for the wrong reasons,
and it to cause too many problems. I know so
many rich people who are unhappy. So you know, after
the break, we're gonna bring it home with brother Do
pre Kelly and talk a little bit more about this
world of politics and what it means to give a
(57:35):
damn about the community that you came up in Draft Fair.
We are bringing it home with the honorable Do pre Kelly.
You know this has been enlightening, just not just on
(57:55):
the political tip there, but also in learning all of
this rap history of just how every rapper they just
all knew each other and hung out and helped up Jules.
I mean, for the life of me, I never knew
that had come to lords with a song on dis Effects,
Like I would have never even put that two and
two together. Man, does that mean we have to have
(58:16):
dos effects on the podcast? Now we can have their
rebuttal like some political you gotta talk to both sides
type ship would be the first job rap battle. That'd
be amazing. But brother Kelly, let me fire a couple
of questions because I know we gotta wrap here and
I don't want to keep you all all day. Um.
(58:37):
You transition into politics, um, and you make the decision
to run for one offense which you did not get right,
and then you make the decision to cock and reload
and run again and you win, and you're now Westward councilman,
and you govern where you grew up, which I think
(58:57):
is another key part about your arc and your journey,
and like truly having love for where you are and
figuring out ways to make it better. And so you
know you have a nonprofit organization called TO eleven Community Impact.
And so you all try to foster change in the
community your educational programs. You're trying to address homelessness. You've
(59:19):
given away meals like you're giving away free haircuts and
hairstyle and two boys and girls and teaching them about
hygiene and just how to dress for a different occasion.
Shrimp fort salad, fork dinna for just that sound like
a new song right there, right right. So you've you know,
(59:44):
you've made all of these donations to innumerable community partners
and schools. What are some of the skills from rapping
in the music industry that directly transfer over into politics?
Galvanizing people? That translated, you know, more popular you are,
(01:00:05):
the more people come and listen to you. Right, So marketing,
um differently, you know, outside the box is what the
entertainment showed me, but still correlates with the campaign of
of a political campaign. UM. I think being able to,
(01:00:26):
like I said, galvanized the people, but also being able
to get the people. Uh. Team building. Team building comes
from you know when you're a young teams and ship
yeah sames all of that, Okay, your boy, and they
put a million dollars in your pocket, and it doesn't
come with instructions. You know. They put a team around you. Okay, Yeah,
(01:00:49):
Martha from marketing, Yeah, Vincent from uh publicity, Uh this,
you know they put all of these people, the record
guy in Chicago, you know, they put it. They build
team So a lot of times they think they put
smarter people around you than you being the smartest person
at the table. So it showed me never be the
smartest person at the ta, you know. And and it
(01:01:12):
taught me how to delegate. It taught me how to
team build, and taught me how to galvanize the people.
It told me how to connect with the people with
with issues, because sometimes you make a record and they'll
be like, man, I love how you made that Indian record,
that Indian record, chief rocker, what y'all made about the Indians? Now?
They love it so much you can't tell them it's
(01:01:32):
not about it, you know. And allowed them to uh
whatever however they vision and just kind of, uh see
what their vision is and take that and build on
top of that, you know. So it taught me a
(01:01:52):
lot of those things. Um. It also taught me how
not to get let let women uh into up to you,
you know, because when usually yeah, not how to let
women interrupt you about in a good way. I'm talking
about it in a bad way. Fame and you come
from nothing, Okay, you out there, you know fratns so
(01:02:17):
vice versa. Don't let me in interrupt you either. I
don't totally agree with that, that miss Jacqueline, I'm saying interrupting.
I had to get some clarification going on here, right,
And I just think the distractions, you know, with whom,
the distractions with money. I've done all of that on
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the entertainment, so it taught me not to bring that
same energy into the politics side on a political platform.
I just did an interview with my sister, you know,
Roxane Seante have a nice day work. They asked her
a question what was her most memory, Like she's known
me since I was seventeen years zol and I didn't
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have a record deal or anything, and they asked her
what was the most memorable time of me, and she
told them that she remembered at one time I came
to her album released party and Big Daddy came, was there,
Biz Markey was there, Cougie rab Molly Mall, Rattler all
of the people powers that be. This is so everybody
(01:03:21):
that was basically popping was in this room. I came
there with her sister and friends, and everybody was telling
Shontay that I was the next rap dude from North
and they had a cipher with all of them. I
wish somebody has to have this video or something, probably
the VHS back there. But somebody told him that they
(01:03:42):
tried to hand me the mike and I was like, NA, no,
that's the that's the you know, that's them right now.
They got records out and let them do their thing.
So she remembered that I never grabbed the mic, and
after our interview, she said, you know, why didn't you
ever grab the mic? And and I maybe I thought
I was out of my my place, you know, or
(01:04:02):
maybe I thought that, you know, nowadays, of course I
would grab the mic, but I thought I was just like,
you know, let them do their thing. My time would come,
and I didn't grab the mic. So, long story short,
when I was leaving an interview, she said, on this
level that you on now, on this platform, that you
are now never not grab the mic. You belong in
(01:04:23):
the room, you know, And it just hit me in
a different way. So I learned all of those things
from the things that I didn't do well or didn't
do right at those moments or those times. And in
the hip hop entertainment industry, I try to fix that
on the level that I am now, um with policy
(01:04:44):
and legislation. And you know, I don't even consider myself
a politician, but my my team tells me to stop.
I have to stop saying that because it is what
it is now. You know, Um, I still consider myself
a public servant. But uh, you know we're gonna change
with that id aology of a politician is. And that's
why doing the work and and and you know, just
(01:05:06):
just ship going it through our action. And that's the
only way that we can do it. As people are
gonna say, they're gonna seem, well, brother counselor Kelly, you
haven't done so much. I'm just looking over this man.
You didn't deliver. The New York is just as bad
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that in the job episode description. Last question, single word answer.
Shadier industry to be involved in the record industry or politics.
(01:06:56):
Record industry shady because they get young people to sign
contract said they don't know what they're siding politics world.
You think it's about the people, and it's supposed to
be about the people, but the people are second or
third and other issues of power plays apart before that
makes people move funny. Anytime people move funny, they're not
in the light no more, they're in the shade. Thank
(01:07:17):
you for what you're doing. Your art to me is
one of the most fascinating in the world of hip hop.
Uh you and Bundby selling these good ass Hamburgers down
and takes a well respect to you man. Thank you
so much, brother, and thank you for coming on a job.
Man's job, fair man. Everybody get employed out there, get
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You're listening to Comedy Central, right, this sounds like some
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(00:23):
of him being accused by audience members of using the
N word a couple of times. This is a white comedian.
After that video surfaced, he was escorted off that goddamn
ship and they said, get your ass the funk up
out of here now. According to this comedian, um, it
(00:45):
wasn't the fact that he said the N word once
and the joke was race related, not racists, per his
quote to t m z um, but the fact that
an audience member or two made a stink about him
saying the N word. They basically said, nobody was mad.
I said the Edward people was mad that they heard it. Like, like,
(01:11):
that's the same thing. This is the thing that's wild though,
if they like, if you're in between ports on a
cruise ship as a comedian and you get fired, they
send a helicopter for your ass. What is cold blooded? Yo?
These cruise ship companies. You don't get an extra date, motherfucker.
(01:34):
You're fired. Go get your ship and go stand by
the helipad. That sounds pretty cool to me. That's all
the more reason to get kicked up to their cruise
ship dropped in bonds lipping right, that's a golden that's
a golden parachute. That's like like, oh, should you're kicking
off the ship? I get to take a helicopter back
(01:55):
to the country, Like yeah, oh oh this is awful.
Would to make this ship perfect if he got fired
for saying the N word and then he got on
that helicopter and that's a helicopter was taken off. He
looked down at the boat. It was like, how let
you niggas. My name is Roy, this is my job.
(02:42):
Just the same tone and everything. It sounded like it's
Tron and Press. He sound like Trawn. I know when
you was looking at the podcast, you know, I don't
know how y'all do the job fair ship when you
downloaded every week third But you look at the length
(03:04):
of the episode and you'll be like, Wow, the funk
is this episode so long? Well? Is that what they say?
We're giving you a little extra dope this week. We
we normally don't break an hour other than Jesus Week
and the Freaky Dicky Week. When we was talking to
all the people, the only fans and the pastors back
to back. Not women, but that was a month or
that was a dedication. Yeah, that that don't count. You know.
We normally don't have two guests for worse than first,
(03:26):
but I think it's important to lead off with this
person before we get into the whole rapping politics thing
this week, JJ, who do we have on the line.
It's Thomas Lennon. He is an actor, author, producer, and screenwriter,
and he's best known for his role as the ridiculous
Lieutenant Jim Dangle on You Know nine one one. Thomas
(03:51):
is also an accomplished screenwriter and a script doctor. He's
written a number of successful films with his writing partner
Robert Bean garn It, including The Night at the Museum
franchise Taxi and They Watch. The Pairs also serve as
co creators of Reno nine one one. Today, Thomas will
(04:14):
be talking to you Roy about his impressive career in
show business. Hello Thomas, Right, it's so nice to be here.
And the funny thing is I thought I had a
bad job and then when you said that I was
a screenwriter, I was like, oh, ship, that's the worst
job I've ever because I thought I was going to
(04:36):
come on and talk about something totally different, and then
I remembered what it was like to be a screenwriter,
and I was like, oh no, no, Roy, I couldn't know.
It's a good The film premier of Comedy Central December three,
streaming on a Paramount plus app after that. If you're
hearing this later, it's called It's a Wonderful Heist, a
(04:56):
Reno one movie. Eliot brother Lennon, we don't have a
lot of time, but I have one Reno nine one
one question. Do members of the law enforcement community view
your program as a friend or foe to the perceptions
of law enforcement. I'm not just starting that. This ain't
(05:18):
no deep ask question. I'm not trying to get you
to talk about the police reforms some ship. Just in
the sense of when you're walking down the street and
a cop recognize you, is it a scowl or a smile.
This is an interesting and it has definitely changed over time.
So I think when the show first came out, when
Reno nine, when one first came out, the actual Reno
(05:39):
Police Department got a lot of angry calls and letters
that there that their officers were behaving so horribly on camera. Now,
of course we're the Reno Sheriff's Department, which doesn't exist.
That's fake and correct. So there was a weird vibe
at the beginning. There's a weird vibe at the beginning,
for sure. And I will say now that we're a
(06:01):
hard and twenty five episodes in and three movies, it's
just different. It's hard to get a ticket with the
lieutenant dango mustache. It's pretty hard to get a ticket. Really.
I was going to a short. Okay, I'm gonna say
something that's kind of weird about myself. I have in
the car in case I need to give it to somebody.
I have like a nine one one badge with like
(06:25):
a patch and then like a card from the California
Highway Patrol. And my wife asked me the other day,
She's like, how are you different from herschel walker buck
jees a slow with a badge? And I'm like, I
don't take that. So it's a wonderful heightst talk to
(06:47):
us a little bit about how you are were able
to mix Christmas time with police work, because those two
on paper you don't necessarily think about. But also talk
to us a little bit about just the improv elements
and how you all work through a scene, because the
show feels more like jello than concrete in terms of
the script. The improvisational nature of the show is also
(07:09):
the answer to everything else about the show, which is
it is the only reason it has survived and people
have tried to copy it. Uh, you know in shows,
but you have to have Nisy, and you have to
have Cedric, and you have to have Carrie. You've got
to have like all those elements. By the way, Nsy
was going back and forth between doing the jeff Dahmers
Show and Are Dumb Christmas Movie, and she would she
(07:32):
would do double duty, like she would just come like
she would one day be doing like the scariest scenes
in the world, and that you'd come in and play
t T where she's running around the Bounty House. So
she has the best like work schedule in the world
where she can come run around with me in a
jock strap and then the next day like SOB has
(07:52):
to sob with Jeffrey like Jammers eating people next door
in the Hart. Somebody somebody was joking on Twitter about
niss As that she left Reno nine one one to
work for the Fits because now she's on abcous she
got she got a ship together, y'all, y'all have ruined
her for me. For the record, it is so hard
(08:14):
for me to watch her as a cop and being
serious on Fits when for years I've watched her just
rolling around with a rena. No. It's it's a hell
of a transition. I know, it's amazing. We're very lucky
that she still comes in and even after all the
Emmy nominations and everything, that she still comes and visits.
As the only reason the show has kept going in
a big way is because of the unscripted nature and
(08:38):
because what we're all saying to which other one. We're
all really good friends. Uh, and now we've known each other,
you know, we shot the pilot in the year two thousand,
so like we've seen everything come and go, and in
those morning briefing scenes on the show, you can always
tell like no one's approved what we're saying to each other.
It's like what it's like the most people. Yeah, like
(08:59):
no one's no one's vetted all this dumb ship that
we talked about. So I think that's why it feels
like honest conversations between people, and I think that that
feels rare because you know, a lot of times you
see shows where things are carefully scripted, and we obviously
don't do that, you know. And then the other thing is,
(09:20):
you know a lot of people were like, yeah, in
the world where cops are so glorified, And I'm like,
if you think cops have been glorified on Reno number one,
you have never seen the show because you whippets in
the car and people are your bicycle where people got
going on on this show that made the trailer of
the movie. So, Thomas Lynnon, you have start in innumerable
(09:43):
television shows and movies and your writing career it's been
illustrious and stand up comedy followed after years of toiling
in the improv scene and perfecting that skill set and researcher,
I did some digging. M oh New York Times best
(10:04):
selling author as well, Jacqueline his brother, has been three
young adult novels um all about the character Ronan Boil
Grown and Boil in the Bridge of Riddles and the
Swamp of Certain Death and Ronan Boiled Into the Strange
Place on the Boil in the Bridge of riddles, but
befoll of that. He was a broke motherfucker. I'm gonna
(10:28):
know about it, and I want to know about that
time in your life. Tell us about that job, Thomas
and Lennon, when that struggle, when your ribs was touching,
when you and your roommate had to split a fucking
McRib over the course of two days. Don't eat that.
Tell us about the worst of first job. I'm sorry
for raising my voice. Respect one of the most interesting
jobs I've ever had, and I think it was very
(10:49):
good practice for being an actor and also writing. I
did telemarketing and I was down on a bank of phone.
It was about eight or twelve of us in a
basement and we're like regular telephones like we used to have,
you know, like a telephone that was connected to the
to the wall on a cord Lan line. It was incredible.
(11:11):
They brought me in and they're like, well, you're new,
so we're gonna give you the worst one that exists.
And I was like, what am I doing? And they're like,
here's a stack of computer paper with like two thousand
puns on it and names just numbers, and you've got
to call the list and these were all people that
(11:34):
had made a telephone call on an airplane. Airphone remember
when the airplanes, I don't know if you guys remember
have a phone you can spe card and it would
pretend to call somebody and you would scream that call
you from an airplane, just to call you from an airplane,
(11:57):
and you would scream it. And the thing about the
air phone, and it was weirdly it was in the
middle seat of the three seats, as if you were
just casually talking to people and the other people were
get a ship just reaching over people. Can I use
that middle phone seat? So everybody hated the air phone.
It was the worst idea in the history of the world.
(12:19):
And it also apparently didn't work. Oh, I had to
call all every single person on my list had a
complaint about the telephone call that they had made from
an airplane. The people that obviously the people that are
gonna already complain about they didn't like the phone service
on the airplane. They're not going to be nice when
you call them at dinner time. I said, Hi, this Thomas.
(12:41):
I'm calling from you know, such and such industries, and
you know, we know you had a problem with the
air phone. Call and it didn't work out. We just
wanted to follow up with a couple of questions, and
generally the response would be, Thomas, I hope one day
you have a family so that I can I will
call you during dinner and I will ruin your evening.
(13:03):
That was the one that stuck with me forever. I
was like, I don't know, people can be really really mean.
All the things you've learned so far, and all the
things you've done so far, what has been some of
the best advice or anything that you've learned because of me? Personally,
when people stop listening, I stopped talking, so that actually
saves me time and energy. So any good advice, if
(13:26):
you could be nice when you get fired from something,
that's basically the best thing you can do in the
entire world, Like be the person that they want to
hire again when somebody else messes up, because like it's
going to come up all the time. There's only so
many people out there, and there's only so many people
that do what you do. And some people will be
lovely and a lot of fun and great to work with,
and some people will be enormous pains in the apps.
Be the great x that they dream about. You know,
(13:50):
I like where you going out when somebody else gets
the job, make them wish that was still you. You
know from how nice you were when you got fired.
I just want to ask you, Thomas, very quickly, please
telling me what it was like to work with Weird
going Weird. I'm a fit and I've watched that one
with my kids, but I can't even lie like it was.
It was an amazingly funny, one of the greatest movies ever.
I'm so proud of that. Al has been like my
(14:10):
best friend for about sixteen seventeen years. Wally and I
met him one day. I walked up to him at
the at the office, the Staples office supplies, and I said, Hey,
you're weird. How it's like you're Lieutenant. I'm like, let's
be friends. We've been friends for seven That's awesome. We
look forward to this film. It's a wonderful heightst December
third on Comedy Central Arena nine one one Game Rides
Again and uh after December third, it's on the Paramount Plus.
(14:34):
I get that wherever you stream media legally, Thomas, Linda,
thanks for representing our parent company, Viaticom by saying strange
Parking Press Production paramount plus it. Please get the subscription
and get the fucking one. They don't pay for it's
paid the good money. And one time we ordered a
(14:56):
viacom to see how much money they owed us, and
it turned out we owed them thirty thous dollars for
all ship for the truth, don't take for the truth.
Thomas Linna, thank you so much for coming on the job.
Fair brother, thank you very much, appreciate it. Third, I'd
(15:18):
like to pose a question to you before we bring
this guest on which industry do you think it's shadier?
That's easy. The music industry, record industry or politics. Wait
a minute, you do a caveat. Yeah, yeah, record industry,
(15:40):
all politics? Which one is shady? As a native Washingtonian,
Uh yeah, bro, you already know I'm going politics. Ain't
nothing shadier than politics, Bro, I ain't going front on
the big stage. I don't know, though, I don't know.
To me, the difference between the two is that in
Paul Takes, you know it's shady from the jump, and
(16:02):
you figure out how to navigate the shadiness. The music
industry is built on lies that you don't discover our
lies until five years into the game and it's too late,
and I just signed to everything, and the next thing,
you know, motherfucker's hangy outside of a window of a
hotel window balcony demanding that you're signed over your goddamn
mask his office hours, which are from nine to five.
(16:26):
I understand what you're saying. Really, I get it. I
get it. Oh, you're talking about five horbies. I was
talking about you like, that's so much safer comparison. I
respect that you. Just save my ass, that's right. I
was talking about big great um. When we talk about,
you know, hip hop and wrap, it's one of those
interesting occupations that they don't talk much about the second act.
(16:49):
They don't talk much about quote unquote retirement or what
you're going to pivot into because you know, the record
industry is always chasing people that are young, new and
the latest shiny thing. So it's always to have brothers
that have figured out what they're going to do and
elevate what they have been doing. And we have exactly
that type of person on the line. J G. We'll
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welcome the honorable du pre Kelly Counselor. Kelly joins us
from Newark, New Jersey. He's an HBCU graduate and a
member of Alpha Phi Alpha fraternity. He spent years in
the music industry as a member of the hip hop
group Lords of the Underground. In June of this year,
(17:33):
he became the first platinum selling rapper in the US
to win elected office. Prior to joining prior to joining politics,
he played an active role in his hometown of Newark
through his non profit two one one Community Impact. So
(17:54):
we welcome the honorable dupre Kelly. Hello, now, Lords of
the Underground, this wonderful group that you were a part of.
You all came around at the time, and I'm from
the South. I'm from album from out there, man, shout
out there, everybody and a half. Then you know what
the music vibes were down there. It was more West
(18:16):
Coast and the South was very much US and a
stuff and Texas. It was Texas and California track. So
what you all were doing was innovative because it felt
East coast. We knew it was East coast ish, but
it didn't. It's somehow fit into what the Southern ideology
was because you all weren't necessarily trying to fit in
(18:40):
with everything else that everybody was doing. Walk us through
because whoever, whatever you are now, that ship was in
you way back they come the Lord to look he
was probably thinking of He was probably thinking of ways
to stop hunger while opening up for us, like walk
(19:01):
us through what you were feeling at the time in
the music industry and how that led to you starting
to run for public office. And if I'm not mistaken,
I'll check book of her Yard's data here in the second.
But you lost the first time we learn, we took
a l. We took a learn. We don't call it
a lass. We took nice Yeah, I mean then, um,
(19:23):
just just a just auh interject on what y'all was
talking about of how laws of the underground, didn't you know,
we felt East Coast is, but you know it tied
into so many other people. I think that's because we
were in college. You know, we were at an H
B c U University and Raleigh shout out from Chicago.
(19:46):
We had people from California. We had our DJ from Cleveland, Ohio,
from the o H Tent, you know, from the heights
in Cleveland. You know, so we had so many different sounds,
uh that you know hip hop, you make hip hop,
you know from your your environment from your surroundings. That's
the way I was taught to hip hop, whether he
(20:08):
was on the East Coast or West coast, you know.
So we had so many different things that were in
our circumference and our surroundings back then that made up
the sound. And then the East Coast part is we
have Molly Maull who was like Russell Simmons back then,
and a dude from New Jersey who kept it Jersey
by the name of a DJ K Death. So that
(20:30):
rounded out and made up with the sound of Lords
of the Underground is l a manager, a North manager,
a Cleveland DJ, two rappers from New New Jersey from
two different sides, you know. And then you had a
you know, a manager who was Muslim, a manager who
was straight out of college who was a blood you know,
(20:53):
um and all making music in the city with the
wall Great, great, you know what I mean. So it
really it really compiled, compiled all of all of that
energy to one one studio and and that's what you got, man.
You you got a jumbo of of college kids who
(21:16):
was excited to be capturing their dreams and to tie
it all into you saying what was I doing then?
And was I on the same thing I was. Man.
That is, you know, a testament to my my manager,
one of our managers. We had two managers back then
by a brother by the name of hot feast Free
who was a Muslim brother. So you know you got
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Muslim brothers from Just think of my man from Minister
Society with the ball head and he was like brother,
you know, that was our manager. Just think of a
grown version of him. You know when we not paved.
He thirty, so just think of a grown version of
that guy. With these young men that come from a
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wild place like New New Jersey, a wild it's like
leaving Ohio. So you know, we started out with with
the B words and the F bombs and the the
you know, nick nick, nick nick, you know, all of
that type of stuff. But we had a manager who
never really told us what to do, but he did
question what we did, you know, and he would say, uh,
(22:20):
you know, so if we dropped the B word in
our ram, he would say, oh that that that sounds cool.
He's like, who are you talking about? Your mother? And
we'd be like, what what you're talking about? You're talking
to old Like, no, no, you said that that you
was with this be over here and over there? Who
are talking about your mother, your sister, your grandmother. Were like,
(22:40):
you're trying to be funny. He's like, no, I'm just
I'm just asking you because that's what some women are
gonna think. So what are you What the point are
you trying to get it? Yeah? He wasn't telling us
to take it out though, but by time he came
back to the studio, it was gone because he was
challenging us type away, prioritive energy, active face, constant elevation, right,
(23:02):
and if we had a bunch of N words in
the music, he would say, you know, uh, well where's
the rat pot? You know, conscious tricks you'a were young guys,
And if I'm being really honest, Lawyers in an Underground
came out right around the same time as Red Man,
right around the same time before Dots Affects. The stuff
(23:24):
that y'all did on that first album, I felt as
if a lot of people just kind of emulated what
you guys kind of started. You know what I'm saying, like,
because you're alware young kids, you're always super young kids
when y'all did that, and I personally feel like y'all
lad a certain wave of that nineties era hip hop.
Your third I gotta salute you, bro, because you you
gotta be a hip hop head to really understand that.
(23:44):
And let me tell you why why I'm saluting you,
because I know you understand it, because you if you
You're only gonna understand it if you paid attention right now.
What I mean by that is I introduced Red Man
the EP m D. I introduced Red Man. Every time
Eric Sherman was coming to New Jersey to sign Do Pray, Kelly,
(24:06):
do it All? Not Red that was my DJ. I've
heard that story. I never knew that was you that
he came to sign Crazy. He was coming to sign me,
and I got sick, and I told my boy, so
everyone's coming to see me. See what happened was myself,
a brother by the name of jam C who runs
(24:28):
a dope podcast now, another brother by the name of
Breeda Bega who introduced us to Bismarck and all the
graffiti cats like Case Slay and all of them. Back
in the day, they used to always go to New
York and they were real tight on the hip hop scene.
So I started to get my name up freestyle and
at the clubs and winning all of the talent shows.
That's when the communities had talent shows. And Red Man
(24:50):
was my DJ, and Uh jam C said, Joe, I
got this brother by the name of sport D who
we called these don He got a bunch of compute
studio stuff in his living and he's a chef, but
but he's a producer. So we went over to his house.
You know, got got real cool with him. And long
story short. We used to look on the back of
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the cassettes and the albums and look at the managements
and the record labels and we used to go visit them.
So we started to go visit UM Rush Management, which
was downtown at this time, you know UM. And when
we went in there, you know, it's a small office
building and everybody who you loved in the hip hop
in the hip hop world come through that came through
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there from Rudini and they was the stars back then,
Like when they walked in the building, O My God
and LLL COO J and and run DMC. They was managed,
but they wasn't. They weren't on the label. And uh
flavor flavor and I'll shout out the flavor flavor because
every time he saw us in the in that hallway,
he would make sure he would take us to the
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corner store and get chips and juice, you know, and
uh pe and those little moments are so but they
used to always make us wait your way here in
the lobby. Of course we waited four hours, five hours,
six yeah, because that was that was the thing, like
we're gonna make you wait and until you leave or
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you don't leave. And we one night, just to fast forward,
one night, we waited so long that we heard. We
used to hear all, you know, people started they chatting
all through the office, so we heard everything that was
going on, and um we heard that um uh it
was E p M D having a gold party that
was coming up. So I went home. We went home
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and I called w BLS and just happened to win tickets.
So I want to tickets. That's it. But it was
four of us. So I came back the next day.
We waited again and I said, don't you have a
gold party coming up for ep M D? Can we go?
And Faith, who turned into an executive, she was just
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working in the lobby. She said, I'll give you two passes.
I put your name on it on for two. So
I was like that, I already got two tickets from winning.
So I got my whole And that was me, Brena Begger,
Jam C and Red Man, who was just Reggie Noble
at the time, and we went in there and UM
and jam and every I was the rapper, so everybody,
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you know, I was like, next up, jam C and
pre wrap two. But I was like that dude at
the time. So everybody was telling Eric, yo, he's that guy.
Come come rock with him. And uh, he said, Yo,
I'm gonna be downe Sensations, They're gonna be done. There's
a club called Sensations, and you know that's gonna be done.
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This Sensations. You know what they say, you come down.
I'm gonna have Pete down, you know, come down some reason.
You know, I'm seventeen years old at this time. For
so for some reason, I don't know, if I got
sick or something happened, well, I couldn't go. So I called.
I called Red and I said, Yo, you gotta go.
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You gotta go down there for the crew. Now, Red
was an incredible freestyle and dude. He used to DJ
and grabbed the mic in freestyle while he was DJ
and which made the set do so long story short man,
he went down there and my guy Bread a beggar
who raped to breed a beggar. If you listen to
the Lords of the Underground, um, he's the one saying
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never faded on the record call never faded. He's the
one steer up and and he told him, he said, Yo,
where's the rapper And he's like, oh, he's not here.
And he said, well, well, Red Red rhym two and
Red had Jest wrote the rhym that week reekend and
that was a red Man ready to rock. They gave
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rapper when his rhum time, pump, push your pendon pence,
when I'm pissed packed, piss through posse flow some more approach.
That was the rapp. He said he had just wrote it,
and they went crazy and dot Car he called me that.
He called me that night like yo, I raped for him.
He went crazy. They said they want us to come
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to the house. Now we're thinking we epm D. So
we went. We went downtown north to Dr Jayson, bought
the same sneakers, the same jacket, just like we caught
the train in Long Island, you know, Central Icelip and
went to Eric's house, you know, er hamburger with an
egg on it, you know, And and then that's how
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that's how they got down with with ep m D.
And and then so now you're down with ep m D.
So I can't fund on Red. He brought me in.
But you know, I'm the type of dude I'm not
gonna knock your opportunity because if it's my man, I
feel like it's all of us, you know, even though
they was coming to get me first, I felt like,
if I'm with Red now, you got both of us now.
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And uh. They had these two other guys that were
from college that went to Virginia Union. I believe it
was another HBCU, but that was Peace group and they
were called one of them from Jersey and he kept saying,
do it all you help me Parrish Smith from m D.
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And Parrish would tell me, yo, do you sound you
remind me of my my dude I got from college.
He was talking about dres You know, Dreys was from Jersey.
So Dreys was that that Jersey sound. So when you
hear dost right, when you hear every um Red man,
that is really my influence initially in the Jersey sound.
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And that's why when Dots Effects came out before us
and Red Man came out before Lords and We came out,
everybody was saying, man, it's something about the energy. Y'all
sound like DOS. I was like, how do you sound
like dogs? And we don't do any dignity, dignity, nothing
at all, But it was the energy here comes the Lords,
like the horns, the voice, even the way that the
lyrics are delivered. It's just a fire energy to it.
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You know why here comes the Lords had that energy
because we were upset. We felt like all of the
energy that we did inside of Eric's house in front
of parish and everybody, we felt like that it was
taken from us. And so now when you hear even
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us doing this in the video, all of that was
was towards DOS at the time when um a funky
wake up, Uh, it's turned on the radio. It's us.
It's us. Yeah, listen to the cut. It's our style,
our style, your style, No, your style. We're saying that
our style is on the radio before we're on the radio.
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That's what we were talking about, you know. So you
know all of that that you felt and help that's
that's where that's where you know it came from. Man,
have questions, Roy, job Fair, We'll be right back, job Fair.
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The honorable dude pre Kelly standing about the scam scam
of the week. We're gonna talk a little bit more
about that world of rap music and whatever was like
coming up with Lords of the Underground and that entire
hip hop scene and the fact that he was kicking
it with E. P. M D And Red Man Third
back when he was just Reggie Noble, right, Red Man
was his DJ, his DJ, like that's just nu rock.
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We turned it over to you. This is the part
to show if you new to the job Fair, where
we uh talk about topics that you could bring up
with coworkers you can't stand. We call the segment breaking
the hest to help us do that, so our resident
white people, black people, allogists, his mom named and Murado.
We call him Rod for short. Right before we get
to the ship with you little snap food last week,
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apparently I didn't see it as a snapp We're gonna
unpack this ship real quickly, turn it over the Rod now.
And I waited specifically for Rod's segment because I wanted
to get his opinion, as well as a comedian and
fellow ventriloquist. I'm I'm being told I did not know
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you did ventriloquism. Rod. You can throw your voice. I
don't believe that the truth. Don't care whether you believe
it or not. Do it, do it, do it, throw
your books. I don't believe you, not for free. I respect.
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So we had Jeff John him on the program and
Jeff Dunham. As you know, over the course of thirty
forty years of being a ventual, it was made a
lot of different dummies that starting a lot of stereotypical
places with some of the jokes, and you know people
who call them racists. Um. I had him on the
program last week. I understand the card an email. I
know normally you don't want to acknowledge someone who don't
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like you, but I respect the job fair community and
the people who care enough to type a fucking message.
Then I'll give you the dignity of a response. J G.
Who's talking in the email? It's Mike and the email says, hey, y'all,
I am disappointed to see you bringing on a guest
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that has repeatedly committed some of the most offensive racist
portrayals on stage. I thought you were better than this,
and you know why. You know why granting us up.
First off, Mike, thank you for the email. Royce job
Fair gmail dot com if you want the email us
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and tell us sween ship. But that last sentence, that's
what hurt. Yeah. I taught you like when your parents,
when your daddy like I'm disappointed in you. I we
don't need to reply to that. It's fine. That's his opinion, dude.
He said that I was like, ship, we gotta talked
to me about this ship. I don't want the fact
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the ins and outs of it is because my thing
is this. I understand the accusations that have been put
at Jeff down him by a lot of different groups
over the course of his career. But if you go
back and listen to the tapes from last week, I
asked him specifically about Sweet Daddy d the Black PIP
because I feel like he's a black person. That's the
only thing I can ask him about it. I can't
bring Jeff down him on this show and go, well,
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what do you say about all this ship? What you
kind of already said when he was talking about the
Cancel Culture ship part at the interview so I can
ask him about the black Dummy, which he copped to
said shouldn't have done it, couldn't do it. What I
discovered is that I can't think black, so I stopped
doing Sweet Daddy d for me. Fucking that's enough. Let's
keep talking about comedy for me. But I understand, I
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understand issues, Mike. You know, we try to do as
best we can on this acoustical radio presentation to bring
doing interesting people. And you know, when else are you
gonna talk to him? Motherfucker that been talking to dolls
since the fourth grade. So we try to find interesting
And I'm being serious right now, I'm glad you can't
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back that up. Y'all are lighting and you're fucking up
and trying to explain myself to sound like that. I
think it was in the tenth grade friend let's have
a tea party with his imaginary friend, like you gonna
be one thing and too rides Credit. I feel like
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that must be said to rides Credit. Before we had
Jeff denim On, he was the one that was like,
are we sure we want to do this, Dada? And
we were like, yees should be fine. And then to
your credit as an interviewer, Ruin, you didn't bring it up.
He dumped the shark, Yeah, and then the whole Chris
Tucker story and all of that. My thing is this
is that where the black dummy is concerned. Jeff Donovan
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admitted that he didn't know what the funk he was doing.
He tried to do it, he said he didn't know
what the funk he was doing. He stopped doing, and
then he said what he said about black women, women
dummies in general. So, in terms of trying to hold
his feet to the fire to make him account for
all the racial sins of every single dummy that's piste
off every other group, I didn't feel like that was
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my agency, so I didn't bring it up. Right, Can
you be racist as a ventriloquist if you are then
disappearing into the persona of another thing? I have to say, yes,
absolute lutely you can. But if you're just doing if
Jeff Dunham just did a black voice and didn't have
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a dummy on stage, like you know what, my black pimp,
I'll be smacking bitches. Then I would be like, yo, man,
this is my fun kid, Come on my show. But
then I guess what I'm saying is if you craft
racism in a garage, does that make it not racist? Go? Well,
that doesn't, like, I mean, just because it's a joke,
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that doesn't make it okay. And so just because his
characters are supposedly the ones that are offensive, I mean,
it's still on him. I look at it like this.
If his explanation is he won't do the Black man
Dunny anymore because he doesn't he can't think like a
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black person and things of that nature, then why does
he do any of the other puppets that aren't just
white men his own age? Can he think like a
dead terrorist, a Middle Easterner, a Muslim, an old man,
a kid want all of this? Hispanic halapino and all
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that ship? I think? But all the reason he doesn't
do the black puppet is because he's white. And that's
pretty much the most blatant form of racism in America
is to be racist towards black people, and black people
would beat the ship out of you too, and the
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back of your point whereight black women to beat your
ass too? Like, don't think that you can go out
there and make fun of sisters and then just be
walking the street, and that's some sisters ain't gonna confront you.
Would have been suicide. I don't think has there been
any in the history of ventriloquism. Has there been a
black woman dummy operated by a man, Not that I
can think of. I actually like pushing the envelope from
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a comedic standpoint, But where I draw the line is
what do you mean how a black person or a
black man or a black woman thinks. That's where I
take issue because that's when it gets stereotypical. That's when
it gets into the shocking and jiving. I always want
him or anyone to push the envelope. What was what
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I took it as during the conversation, Because he talked
about a redneck, he could know what the general want
was that that person. He knows that the terrorists is angry,
So every response should start with anger as the driving
emotion to write the dialogue for whatever that joke is
for a black person. Black people are not a monolith
and niggas is different all over, and he recognized it
because what he didn't want to fall into. It's just
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a simple basic style of black type of character. If
you look at who he's entertaining, which is Middle America.
Then most Middle Americans view terrorists or view from a
stereotypical sense from when you start to remember Jeff Dunham
pop two years to three years after nine eleven. So
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we wasn't sparsing Muslims into all these different buckets that
we do now. We weren't sparse the Middle Easterners into
the like. We weren't doing that, so he could operate
from one single North Star behavioral truth to create that dummy.
Then with the heel billy, everybody do the same fucking
accent with the hell billy. You think that you're not
sparsing hell billy's the way you do black people from
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intellectuals to hood motherfucker's to dreadlocks, to people with fucking degrees,
to people down in the Caribbean with you know, Caribbean accents.
So the Black Brits like it's too many different black
people that they're gonna be like, hey man, why do
you only think niggas talk like that? I got to
fight you. Yeah, okay, so rod, So what you're saying
is that no matter what, the only doll that someone
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can portray is themselves and then not have the risk
of offending someone. Yeah, but just because you offend somebody
doesn't mean you've done anything wrong. But yeah, like there's
the only like, so far, you can take a character.
There's a difference between a character and a person. And
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it's like you can be Jeff Donham, a white dude
and do just some black cartoon character or some ship
or like like his black puppet. If it wasn't so stereotypical,
if it was just an old black man and the
only voice he was doing was just an older black
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man talking like older black man do, it would be
no proflem that's because it was a like, yeah, like
that's just a person, that's an old person, is just
a person. But this puppet he does is a specific
black pimp, old stereotype, and that's what you get into
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trouble man. But he stopped doing it. That was my
whole anyway, Thank you for the email, Mike. You appreciate you.
If you're still listening, we appreciate you giving us another
chance fucking this week. Thank you. Down South, Georgia girl,
uh search for a black woman ventriloquists yields one motherfucker? Really?
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Who is it? Willie Tyler I shouldn't say motherfucker because
this is actually a wonderful young woman, Megan Pyphus Uh
the Vanderbilt and she is now a puppeteer et Sesame Street.
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So she didn't even do comedy. They was like, yo,
you got to come teach kids. Well, Sesame Streets started
out for inner city kids and their issues. So Megan
started puppetry and ventriloquism at the age of ten years
old and taught us puppetry by watching VHS tape. I
bet you she watched Jeff Donham, but she came up
on Damn. She was on the Tonight Show with Jay
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Leno when she was in college. Okay, so this girl
did the damn things. The first Bleran in the history
to be a puppeteer Street, you know what, let's call it.
We didn't have a CMO earlier because we talked to
Thomas Lennon making pippa rating. God, damn ventuloquism, dolls, you
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are most outstanding employee of the week now, o can
We didn't let her to our Christmas party and when
she comes, I'm gonna do my Elmo impersonation the party.
What is it? Getting the Amazon gift card via email.
Check your spam what it's going to be? Check right,
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real quick, right before we get into he's breaking the
ice street. What is your doll? Since the rules of
your true aquism are that you must have a doll
that is in alignment with whatever the funk you fucking do,
bring him up right, Yes, sir? Hey guys, what's your name?
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This is the West. He is a KKK Grand Wizard,
Grand Wizard. I don't know what you're talking about. For
the people, for the people listening, I have to paint
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the picture. Please give me a second, beautiful. On Rod's
right hand is a hooded figure wearing a red hood
with the red clan rope, and but he has the
google eyes like those little eyes you stick on check
a red so he looks like a wacky clansman. Right,
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Please tell me you're not doing Nikki You have a
clan doll? Yes, I do. We're an imprompty. Jeff Dunham
is safe for doing a black puppet in the South,
doing a clansman ventriloquism. At what the fuck? Rod? Men?
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The winds are hit. Okay. The first time I ever
did the Winds was at the Gate Club in Memphis.
Shout out the Drews Place. He loves to show at
Drew's Place at Memphis, shout out the Drews Place. And uh,
we had a great time comedy unit at a gate
club and you walked on stage with a puppet and
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a clans rot and everybody loved. Mike is Mike is
typing up a new email to us right now. The
only reason I'm not gonna ask you to do part
of the act is because I feel like it won't
come through properly through people's ears, and that's not fair
to whatever the funk this is going on on my
screen right now. It deserves to be seen live. Just
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judge it on all of the merits of performance. So
I'm not going to do that to you. I am
going to ask you to put that thing away, please please.
I can't even learn. Yes, let's y'all, look at you all,
Freedom place. I don't even know where mine is. Is
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that material authentic? Oh? Yeah, that's real? Sad and baby,
I'm scaled number the best for the whist they clan
wizard dummy? Did you do for wism with it? What
the fuck is wrong with you? Man? Wait a minute, wait,
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I have a question for him. I have a question
for question, righty right, hey, right? Using Jeff Dunham's logic,
he stopped talking to black people doing a black publet
because he didn't know black people. How are you? How
are you able to think like a klansman? Because because
once again there's a difference between a person and a
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character the wiz he has, you're assuming he's white. First
of all, you're just assuming he's a white man. And
that's racist. Alright, first all, let's get that straight. Y'all
a bunch of racist. But that's right. The Wiz isn't.
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He's just a singular thing. The Wiz is just a
k k K grad wizard. He's not a person dressed
up and meet inputting thoughts and trying to figure out
how this person would act. Where is this just the whist? Mike? Um, Mike.
I want you to know that I had every intention
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of like taking your email serious and having a really
balanced conversation about who has agency and not agency to
be mad on the behalf of other groups, and whether
or not people who have done offensive things have a
right to explain themselves and be had their feet held
to the fire. I did not know that this conversation
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was gonna end, would have goddamn clansman on the Rodo's
right hand. And I'm sorry, Mike, I defy you to
find a clansman who has seen that act and thought
it was a you know what, Rod, I don't even
know if I want a story from you today. I
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feel like this is enough. I think I'm gonna call
this one ye scam of the week term j G.
I believe you had a question for Brother Duke, pretty
curious about where did you learn your work ethic? And
then I'm also curious about what do you have in
your life that's worth more than money to you? Um?
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Where did I learn my work ethic? I learned my
work ethic from a lot of great mentors, you know,
um coming up in my in my life as a
young male child trying to maneuver through a city like Newton, Jersey,
which is similar to Compton, which is similar to Cleveland,
which is similar you know to Southwest d c. And
all of those type of places in Detroit, in the Chicago.
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At some point, Um, I was looking for things that
those mentors that that weren't around. So when I couldn't
find them, I tried to become become what I was
looking for, you know, UM, and I found them in
spurps in different places. You know, the rap version of
me is somebody who never made it. Is my guy
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Shake from my block. Shake was the fly is the
you know when you was when you were in hip hop,
you know, fashion was key, you know, like how you
how you dress. That's why the dancers when they did
their backspins, they always had had a fly jean jackets
with the graffiti on it and the you know, the
m c s had to have a bell kangos with
the belt like you had to be fly. So Shake
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was that guy who was flying on our block and
he could wrap. So I wanted to Shake as a rapper.
He just never made it, you know what I mean.
And and when it comes to when it comes to
like uh, just maneuvering through community in the block and
utilizing um, if you're in the community, do something other
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than like I was influenced by drug dealers, by the boys,
but not to sell drugs. I was influenced by them
to be fly. I was influenced by them to to
move ahead in life and utilize what you have to
make something out, you know, out of nothing like. I
was influenced by them to do that, and then by
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doing that, I ran into people who saw something in
me as well. Eighth grade teachers who who like God
bless uh. Mr Nicholas e. Bokwa who was my eighth
grade teacher, and I just thought he was being a
pain in the butt. But he was really short and
I could have one foot in and one foot out.
So after school, he would make sure that not only me,
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but like a group of five of my guys and
all of us are doing well with deception of maybe one,
you know, um. And he made sure all five of
us stayed out because he knew we were smart enough,
you know, just like they're superheroes, they're supervillains. He whatever,
if we were we couldn't become a superper hero, we
definitely would have been super villains, you know what I mean.
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And he noticed that, he became a mentor and then
you have, um, you have hot feast for read who's
stuck in there the longest. Became the manager of laws
of the underground, became like a father figure. He was
the type of dude who was actually the chief of
staff for a councilman at that time. By the name
of Ralph Grant, the third Dr Ralph Grand Dr Reverend
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Ralph Grant. So I got into a little trouble joy
riding with some friends from my neighborhood. And Ralph Grant
is the one who got me out. At the time,
I played baseball and was real good in the state.
And I lost all my baseball scholarships for this joy ride,
you know. And uh, he's the only one that came
to my aid, wrote letters to the courts, and you know,
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uh when Tom came to my school, got all of
my grades and showed them that I wasn't really a
bad kid. I just made a mistake getting in the
Brone car at that time. And um, he got me
a partial baseball scholarship to Shaw University. I went down there,
I joined that that the acting coalition, you know. Uh.
I played baseball for a little while until I hurt
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my knee, and I became popular in Shaw University. And
that's where I met our other manager who was Molly
Mas's cousin. Introduced us to Mally Mall but that guy
Hot Feest for read. Once we got popular, he showed
us what community was. He made sure that all the
success we had through Lads of the Underground at that
even before Laws of the Underground. You go to these
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schools and perform. You go to with what the people
like you. You give them, You give them the talent
that you're supposed to have it, and you cater to
them and you build up your repertoire. And that's what
we did. Man. So when you ask the council, you
have to answer my other question, what what was that?
My other question is what's in your life that's more
(54:34):
important than money? Um, in my life that's more important
than money. Money is not an important factor in my life.
It's a necessity, but it's not you know, I don't
do anything for money. I do things for legacy at
this age, now you know what I mean, Like I
just want to do it, okay, you know, uh A
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lot of times I think that I was doing it
for respect too, because I feel like we were so
close to New York when it came to hip hop,
and I'm speaking of New New Jersey that we felt
like the Sixth Borough, the lost borrow, the people who
didn't get their love. That's why we went so hard
and even till this day, if you talk about the
nineties of hip hop. You can't mention the nineties without
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talking about New Jersey running hip hop. They might mention
Red Man, they might mention Lauren Hill. In the nineties,
we went so hard because we felt like we didn't
get any love for anybody. And that produced the Fuji's
you know, from Laurence Wild, Cleff, Underground, Queen Lati, Lost Boys,
um you know, uh excuming out the Lost Boys, um uh,
(55:47):
the outside excuse me, the outsiders and the outlaws, you know.
Um that produced Red Man, that produced Apache, that produced
um uh Wise Intelligent, that prt prt on Man. You
got so many I can go on and on. Rock Digger,
the greatest female MC of all time, right, Digger, you
(56:09):
need to say that, the greatest female MC of all time. Right,
you gotta say that. But people they I mean Norty
by Nature Uh Channel Live, Um, that's them who changed
their name to the Artifacts. There's so many different groups,
and when you talk about when people talk about the nineties,
they don't mention that. They don't mention all of that.
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They don't mention how New Jersey ran hip hop in
the nineties. And I'm talking about platinum artists, so and
they talk one half of dots effects and you know
it's just so many more and more. But that's what
what kind of powered us. And to answer your question,
the thing that is worth more than money is actually
chasing your passion, living your passion out in real time.
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That's way that's worth way more than money because if
you live your passion out the money and the monetary
things that have come to you. You know, when you
do something you love and you love it, you'll create
for yourself. You'll create a pathway for yourself financially, you know. So.
But if you just do it for money, I'm not
saying that you won't have you won't have some type
(57:14):
of riches that come to you, but it won't last
and it would be done for for the wrong reasons,
and it to cause too many problems. I know so
many rich people who are unhappy. So you know, after
the break, we're gonna bring it home with brother Do
pre Kelly and talk a little bit more about this
world of politics and what it means to give a
(57:35):
damn about the community that you came up in Draft Fair.
We are bringing it home with the honorable Do pre Kelly.
You know this has been enlightening, just not just on
(57:55):
the political tip there, but also in learning all of
this rap history of just how every rapper they just
all knew each other and hung out and helped up Jules.
I mean, for the life of me, I never knew
that had come to lords with a song on dis Effects,
Like I would have never even put that two and
two together. Man, does that mean we have to have
(58:16):
dos effects on the podcast? Now we can have their
rebuttal like some political you gotta talk to both sides
type ship would be the first job rap battle. That'd
be amazing. But brother Kelly, let me fire a couple
of questions because I know we gotta wrap here and
I don't want to keep you all all day. Um.
(58:37):
You transition into politics, um, and you make the decision
to run for one offense which you did not get right,
and then you make the decision to cock and reload
and run again and you win, and you're now Westward councilman,
and you govern where you grew up, which I think
(58:57):
is another key part about your arc and your journey,
and like truly having love for where you are and
figuring out ways to make it better. And so you
know you have a nonprofit organization called TO eleven Community Impact.
And so you all try to foster change in the
community your educational programs. You're trying to address homelessness. You've
(59:19):
given away meals like you're giving away free haircuts and
hairstyle and two boys and girls and teaching them about
hygiene and just how to dress for a different occasion.
Shrimp fort salad, fork dinna for just that sound like
a new song right there, right right. So you've you know,
(59:44):
you've made all of these donations to innumerable community partners
and schools. What are some of the skills from rapping
in the music industry that directly transfer over into politics?
Galvanizing people? That translated, you know, more popular you are,
(01:00:05):
the more people come and listen to you. Right, So marketing,
um differently, you know, outside the box is what the
entertainment showed me, but still correlates with the campaign of
of a political campaign. UM. I think being able to,
(01:00:26):
like I said, galvanized the people, but also being able
to get the people. Uh. Team building. Team building comes
from you know when you're a young teams and ship
yeah sames all of that, Okay, your boy, and they
put a million dollars in your pocket, and it doesn't
come with instructions. You know. They put a team around you. Okay, Yeah,
(01:00:49):
Martha from marketing, Yeah, Vincent from uh publicity, Uh this,
you know they put all of these people, the record
guy in Chicago, you know, they put it. They build
team So a lot of times they think they put
smarter people around you than you being the smartest person
at the table. So it showed me never be the
smartest person at the ta, you know. And and it
(01:01:12):
taught me how to delegate. It taught me how to
team build, and taught me how to galvanize the people.
It told me how to connect with the people with
with issues, because sometimes you make a record and they'll
be like, man, I love how you made that Indian record,
that Indian record, chief rocker, what y'all made about the Indians? Now?
They love it so much you can't tell them it's
(01:01:32):
not about it, you know. And allowed them to uh
whatever however they vision and just kind of, uh see
what their vision is and take that and build on
top of that, you know. So it taught me a
(01:01:52):
lot of those things. Um. It also taught me how
not to get let let women uh into up to you,
you know, because when usually yeah, not how to let
women interrupt you about in a good way. I'm talking
about it in a bad way. Fame and you come
from nothing, Okay, you out there, you know fratns so
(01:02:17):
vice versa. Don't let me in interrupt you either. I
don't totally agree with that, that miss Jacqueline, I'm saying interrupting.
I had to get some clarification going on here, right,
And I just think the distractions, you know, with whom,
the distractions with money. I've done all of that on
(01:02:39):
the entertainment, so it taught me not to bring that
same energy into the politics side on a political platform.
I just did an interview with my sister, you know,
Roxane Seante have a nice day work. They asked her
a question what was her most memory, Like she's known
me since I was seventeen years zol and I didn't
(01:03:01):
have a record deal or anything, and they asked her
what was the most memorable time of me, and she
told them that she remembered at one time I came
to her album released party and Big Daddy came, was there,
Biz Markey was there, Cougie rab Molly Mall, Rattler all
of the people powers that be. This is so everybody
(01:03:21):
that was basically popping was in this room. I came
there with her sister and friends, and everybody was telling
Shontay that I was the next rap dude from North
and they had a cipher with all of them. I
wish somebody has to have this video or something, probably
the VHS back there. But somebody told him that they
(01:03:42):
tried to hand me the mike and I was like, NA, no,
that's the that's the you know, that's them right now.
They got records out and let them do their thing.
So she remembered that I never grabbed the mic, and
after our interview, she said, you know, why didn't you
ever grab the mic? And and I maybe I thought
I was out of my my place, you know, or
(01:04:02):
maybe I thought that, you know, nowadays, of course I
would grab the mic, but I thought I was just like,
you know, let them do their thing. My time would come,
and I didn't grab the mic. So, long story short,
when I was leaving an interview, she said, on this
level that you on now, on this platform, that you
are now never not grab the mic. You belong in
(01:04:23):
the room, you know, And it just hit me in
a different way. So I learned all of those things
from the things that I didn't do well or didn't
do right at those moments or those times. And in
the hip hop entertainment industry, I try to fix that
on the level that I am now, um with policy
(01:04:44):
and legislation. And you know, I don't even consider myself
a politician, but my my team tells me to stop.
I have to stop saying that because it is what
it is now. You know, Um, I still consider myself
a public servant. But uh, you know we're gonna change
with that id aology of a politician is. And that's
why doing the work and and and you know, just
(01:05:06):
just ship going it through our action. And that's the
only way that we can do it. As people are
gonna say, they're gonna seem, well, brother counselor Kelly, you
haven't done so much. I'm just looking over this man.
You didn't deliver. The New York is just as bad
as flint. When it comes to the water crisis. You're
(01:05:27):
slinging pre water to everybody who need to hear lift
bus for special needs students neighborhood. You are doing the
look good, feel good program, and we want to make
donations to the two eleven community impact. Where can people
find that real quickly? They can go to the website.
(01:05:48):
Just go to to one one and those are the
numbers to eleven um to eleven community and I see
I as in community impact to eleven Community impact dot com.
You can just hit the door nation button, you know all.
You can go to our Instagram page, which is the
real to on one c I as a community impact. Um,
(01:06:10):
yeah man, and or you can hit me up on
my personal I G Twitter, Facebook, all the same name
and let's do it all due d O I T
A L L d U at the end. And um,
if you want to support us and follow it with
doing on the political platform, everything is due it all
one word for and that's fo R north. Do it
(01:06:31):
all forrenuity, do it all purity. Oh and do pray
kelly dot com the website. Go ahead to the website subscribe.
You can find out everything that's going on in our
community at du pre kelly dot com. Beautiful. We'll have
that in the job episode description. Last question, single word answer.
Shadier industry to be involved in the record industry or politics.
(01:06:56):
Record industry shady because they get young people to sign
contract said they don't know what they're siding politics world.
You think it's about the people, and it's supposed to
be about the people, but the people are second or
third and other issues of power plays apart before that
makes people move funny. Anytime people move funny, they're not
in the light no more, they're in the shade. Thank
(01:07:17):
you for what you're doing. Your art to me is
one of the most fascinating in the world of hip hop.
Uh you and Bundby selling these good ass Hamburgers down
and takes a well respect to you man. Thank you
so much, brother, and thank you for coming on a job.
Man's job, fair man. Everybody get employed out there, get
(01:07:38):
a job. Make sure that fair. And this has been
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