Girl Boss

NOW HIRING: Professional fakers are charging people up to $150 an hour to sit in their job interviews for them.  The Black woman behind the first Black-owned champagne brand – Lapin Rouillé – sold in the U.K., Nichole Johnson, breaks down how she creates a lane for herself in an industry dominated by white men. Does champagne go bad? Nichole explains how to know if that half-full bottle is good to drink. The Phoebe App empowers women with the tools, wisdom, and support to navigate the end of pregnancy and postpartum. The girl bosses behind the app, Emily Klingbell & Karolina Belwal, unpack the frustration and the inspiration of getting the business off the ground.   @Rod4Short explains why a cheating allegation involving vibrating “butt” beads has the chess world literally buzzing. Enjoying Roy’s Job Fair? Want more? Take 60-seconds to rate and review this fine acoustical programming.  Want to be a guest on 'Roy's Job Fair?' Got a job scam you've seen run? A worst or first job to share? Job tips to share with everyone? Get on the show! Submit your story at www.roysjobfair.com Catch Roy alongside Jon Hamm in “Confess, Fletch,” STREAMING NOW ON SHOWTIME.  Watch all Roy Wood Jr Comedy Specials NOW available on iTunes and streaming NOW on Paramount+ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Comedy Central. Oh JJ, you used to
do PR right, yeah, PR marketing, I've done it all.
Oh well perfect, what do you mean? Wait wait wait wait,
let me take that back now. Hiring following companies are

(00:23):
for sure looking for additional assistance in PR and marketing
and rebranding. Deaf Jam Records, Valenciaga, JP, Morgan, Chase, a Vitas,
foot Locker, Peloton, t J Max, and of course the

(00:44):
Donda Academy. J G. What are these companies? Would you
like to go work for real quick? As they try
to move past their relationships with a formally Kanye West,
Adidas has multiple strikes with me. I don't know if
you remember that shoe they made that had like a

(01:04):
prison cuff on it. I'm still stuck there. So I
knew they had bad taste. Automatically a sneakerhead moved. Gee.
You know what, I didn't know about Adidas until somebody
told me this. Apparently Adidas was started by two brothers.
They had a fallen out, and oh yeah, I left
the company and created Puma. It's a dol Brothers. It's

(01:30):
the story of the Docler brothers. And it's so petty
that They have headquarters across the street from each other,
and they literally try and outdo each other, like build
one bigger than the other, like it is the pettiest
thing in the world. Man, they can't stand each other.
It is an amazing story. Good Will won't take them. Really,

(01:50):
there is a message out across good Will Corporate, if
you could call it, that they will not take those
shoes and sell them. I don't imagine good Will has
a corporate office. I imagine it is like just twenty
niggas on a group chat and good Will to long
accept donations of easy products, and a memo sent by

(02:11):
good Well the company's directed employees to trash the current
stuff as well. My name is Roy. This is my

(02:38):
job there. G G. How is your week then? Oh
it's been good. How are you? I'm okay. I'm in
Atlanta right now, you know, doing some day to show stuff.
And we have some wonderful women on the show today
who are running things in their life. We have one

(02:58):
that has started her own Champaigne company, and uh, we
have another two women who are helping women in the
workplace deal with the horrors of postpartum depression and working
a job where nobody gives a damn about anything that
you're going through because you use a women's disrespectful Alright,

(03:20):
real quick, let's go now to most Outstanding Employee of
the week, because this one made me laugh. I gotta
give it thank you as always to down South Georgia
girl doing the research, doing the dig in there, Rhonda,
and she found this one. Apparently there's a new workplace
trend happening called the bait and switch job interview. Tell

(03:42):
you a little story about how I passed m Organic
Biology and college, Jacqueline. I can tell the story now
because I have my degree, and y'all bitches can't take
it from me. You went to this class, let's start there.
So at the time in school, instead of putting your

(04:03):
name on your paper, you put the last four of
your social and that's how you can identified in class.
M HM. So in theory, anyone who shows up and
knows the last four of your social take your exam
for you because the class, the student teacher ratios like

(04:24):
professor don't know all these places. Unless you say, hypothetically,
you could send somebody into that organic Bology class. Oh,
I'm with the last four digits of your fucking social
that's ensuring that you get an eight two out at
the end of the semester. I think that's brilliant, sir.

(04:45):
I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm just saying hypothetical.
So hypothetically, hypothetically, that's brilliant, sir. I would be like
going to another school and your cluster who might not
have had this challenging classes, but the credit still counted.
Not to say that I took many classes at Morris
Brown and math and science, but I kind of understand
where you might be coming from. Hypothetically speaking, sir, this

(05:08):
potion of ruis job fast brought to you by rescinded
college degrees looking up black Man's employment. So the same
concept is happening in the work world now. The concept
of bait and switched job interviews are starting to happen,

(05:28):
and you know, the simplest of it is that a
job candidate hires a person to pretend to be them
and then goes to the job interview, goes to the
follow up job interview, lands the position, and then on
the first day of work the other local fucker show

(05:49):
are you serious? We call that as the Great Dave
Chappelle will say that's called I got you a bitch.
I can't wait. Like in any casis. The Canadas pool
abating switch are underqualified or flat out unqualified for the
job that they're applying for. The hiring is simply a

(06:12):
scam and a tempt to fade their way through the
hiring process by fudging their resume or hiring someone more
qualified to dazzle the recruiter. They're able to land the
job than they're in because more often than not, the
recruiters do not work at the locations you are being
hired for. Wow, you can really that's crazy, that's some

(06:33):
slick ship. It's also a fraud risk because organizations can
have their reputation ruin or have their data and personal
information customers spell and by these duplicitous people. Wow. The
way that people find their proxies is, you know, they
reach out to them online and the people do the

(06:55):
job interview for You can charge up to one hundred
and fifty dollar. There's an hour to pretend to be you.
Do I have to look like you? That's a good question,
j G. I'm glad you asked. Please tell me. In June,
the FBI put out a warning Rohnda really did her
what they say? The girl's good. In June, the FBI

(07:19):
put out a warning that there's an increase in people
applying for remote positions using stolen identities, indep fast or
manipulated images of someone's face. In other words, the person
applying for the job might not even might not even
be a real motherfucker Max Headroom digital head and the

(07:45):
FBI has given a warning or people are applying to
the FBI has given the warning that people are pretending
to be qualified. And then you hire this person, you
give them all the codes, and now they got the
back door into your company. Right now, we see each
other on camera. They have like a filter on Snapchat.
It's a it's a deep fake. Is essentially a NASA

(08:06):
level face filter, way past googly eyes on your face.
It literally make you look like someone else. The app
is called dublic Cat, and what it does is it
will take a picture of you, like it'll take a
picture of j G and superimpose it over a picture
of Roy doing the traffic at the Daily Show, and
so it would look like j G in a suit

(08:27):
directing the entire thing. But it's an app. You just
sud in the face. And that's not even NASA level.
That's all going corner store level, just deep faking right there,
and like, that's crazy debate and switch. Though technically wrong,
it's also not illegal, and most calls are embarrassed. You
it's an embarrassing You could lose your job if you

(08:49):
say that you hired someone that's uh full gazy. So
rather than expose themselves, two companies just quietly usher the
people out the door and just go, hey, look, you
sucked up. You walked up to the print on the
wrong side of the printer. So you thin it's good
right to work state, you know. But then there was

(09:10):
also the story of a bakery worker who um baton
switched and faked his job interview, claiming that he had
eight years of experience in tech, but while on the job,
got so good at the job that the tech firm
gave him a full time job and he's been there
for another three years. Respect. I like that. Man, If

(09:31):
you're gonna fake it and then make it, I'm not
mad about that exactly. That's exactly not mad about that
at all. Bro. I support this. Sometimes you just need
an end to prove that you can do not. Everybody
doing a bait and switch job interview is out to
get all of the company's secrets. Some people just want

(09:51):
a fucking chance, and you have to get around these
stupid algorithms all of these hiring sites have set up. Oh,
it's scan your resume. If your resume doesn't have the
right word in the right place, then you're stupid and
the hiring manager will never even see your resume. So, yes,
if I'm gonna working at a bakery, I'm putting on
my resume I worked at forty eight bakeries, and then

(10:13):
I'm a deep fake myself and a sucking chef's hat
and put some flower on my face, make it look
like I just left the fuck I gotta do because
the moment I get in the door, I'm going to
allow you with my work ethic and my assibility to learn.
So for lying to the motherfuckers and getting that good

(10:35):
bakery job off of a goddamn job interview bait and
switched for that unnamed Georgia bakery worker who did not
want to give their names to the article. Most outstanding
employee of the Week works the first time. So this
woman making the champagne now I drink champagne, but I've

(10:55):
never been drunk off champagne. I don't. I'm not sure
if that's the goal of champagne as an alcohol beverage.
Isn't it all alcohols? Let's dive into this world, because
you know, I know how to start a number of brands,
but I have zero knowledge of how you go and
get grapes and get liquor and make liquor and make

(11:16):
champagne and bottle it and convince it liquor store to
carry you and do all of that from across the
path right, yes, yes, did you take a daily on
the Chile? Let get I'm sorry, I'm inspect j G.
Who do we have? We have Nicole and she is

(11:39):
the youngest African American woman owned liquor importer, exporter, and
distributor in the world. Nicole is a graduate. Yes, She's
a graduate of Florida and m University School of Business
and Industry. She holds a dual degree in Business Administration

(12:00):
with a concentration and Marketing and International Affairs. She also
holds a Master's of Business Administration degree and Global management
from University of Phoenix. Nicole is an avid traveler. I'm
gonna have to find you. When she's not on the go,
you'll find her toiling in her garden or sampling a

(12:21):
fine spirit on her comfy couch. Hell on, Nicole, Hey,
how y'all doing? Wa Hey man, she's a CEO. You
know what that means. You gotta play the music grab,
We've got to play. The Corporate Site Welcome to the

(12:41):
Corporate Suite. This is the exclusive V I P section
of the John Pampe Welcome C suite executives to talk
about how they build their company and what they've done
on the way to success. Previous c Suite alumni include
a Ridshire service that we are legally contracted to not

(13:04):
tell you the name, and of course Mahogany and Hallmark
cards as well. Nicole Johnson O, Hey, okay, thank you
for having me president of Rusty Rabbit in the nation.
One of one, one of one, black woman on Champagne,

(13:28):
the only one to do it on earth. There's actually
no can I can accolutely I am the only one
out of the UK. But there is now additional ones
of us, which is amazing. There's Maurice Sayzar who is
now has taken her talents back to France, Um, there
is Marvina. She's out of bed styde Um so she

(13:50):
just opened up a brand new tasting room in New York,
so visit her. And there's some other young ladies that
I am bringing along. Um. So, one of the things
that you've get when you get in champagne you have
to get a Cremont mark and it's a very highly
regular yeah, and they don't want you to have it,
especially if you look like me. And so I did

(14:13):
mind through my vineyard and like he always said, never
come on Cameron, never say anything. They handled all that.
So when I finally got my mark, it was funny
because of what was like said in the background. But
I was like, hey, too bad, I have it now.
But what it allows you to do is because I
have the mark, I can now stamp other ladies coming in.
So that's all that I was trying to make sure

(14:34):
is that I'm not I don't want it there to
be any gatekeepers or someone telling people that they can't
do something. No, we're in this, we can do you
one minute minute made listen, I'm a ray and this
I vote and bet on everything black. Connect the dots
between that company and your champagne brand, and how did

(14:58):
you decide on Champagne, Like, just walk us through how
did you get into that? And so when I left family,
I was hired by a fast food service business, the
corporate office UM again legally contracted to that state based UM,
but I used to travel all over the world and
open up their location, so that meant I've built their

(15:20):
retail locations, did their pos which is the things you
see at the counter, UM and sale, Yeah, the point
of sales did all of that for them, did their
marketing and things that nature. But I did them in
each demographic that I had to go to. So that's India, Japan, Australia.
The list goes on. So as time matriculated, of course,

(15:40):
the economic downturn happened here in the state and that
funneled through And so I had just asked them what
they terminate my non compete clause which allowed me to
stay in the industry but worked for other brands, and
they did, but they also allowed me to retain them
as a client, from being an employee to they became
my client, and so from there it's literally matriculated. About

(16:04):
seven years ago, I had a distillery called me and
asked me what I come built their retail center in
Scotland and that's how I ended up being in the
import expert distribution business of alcohol. So we redesigned their
entire retail center. UM some of the packaging that's on
their bottle. So rest you Rabbit International has actually made
up for companies, actually five it's restaurrabb International, rest Rabbit Drinks,

(16:29):
which the champagne sets under rest Rabbit makes I can
make anything that's on our bottle. We actually do make
everything on our bottle. UM rest Rabbit Logistics because we
move products to and fro and then there's resta Rabbit Cares.
We have a not for profit organization that advocates on
behalf of women of color and cancer fire. This is

(16:55):
wild because low key, your job working for that fast
food company was basically an internship for how sales are
done in different regions and the different cultural influences that
you have to consider. We're trying to sell a particular
product in a particular part of the world, absolutely, and
the logistics to get it there. Do you speak a
lot of different languages at least three to deal with

(17:18):
the country these countries you're dealing with, or is it
a lot of Google Translate, Google Chance, But I speak English,
Spanish and learning tells Jacqueline Roy speak French. Lapin quote
the end, what's the name of that place? That is okay,

(17:39):
I want you to pronounce the name of the champagne
for those folks who may not speak French. And beyond
our program, lap nice. Okay, we're gonna put it in there.
We're gonna we're gonna put that in the in the
episode of description and in parentheses. We're gonna put the
phonetics out of work. You can tell somebody if they

(18:02):
especially they've been a New New Orleans and made like
who in their Yeah, so lapon nice. What is the
first step? Like as a rapper, your first step is
to get a demo and then hopefully get that demo
in the hands of a producer or agent, or get

(18:25):
on the internet and grow it yourself. I don't imagine champagne.
This is not like cookies and pastries. You can't sell
this out the trunk. I imagine there's a lot of laws.
So what is the first step in starting a champagne?
But do you go get the grapes, do you go
test grapes, do you go look at bottles do you

(18:45):
go figure? Like who do you partner with? Like? What
the how do you get in the liquor stories? That
the same as getting in the record store. How much
harder is that than getting hair care products? And target? Like?
What are the hurdles? And a lot of hurdles. Um.
So the first up was, Um, I've I know my
champagne grower. Um It's something that I had been a

(19:06):
part of for quite some time, just because my top
three spirits are alcohols is champagne, tequila, and whiskey day
um so, and so we we actually have a tequila
coming in. So there's everything that I'm passionate about. Everything
that I do is a passion for me. So what's

(19:26):
things that I absolutely like? I smoked cigars, a Rite, motorcycles.
It's just the thing that I'm about, right, So we
have a cigar line coming, some things that are coming down.
But to answer Roy's question of how I got started,
so the champagne is actually an accident. It was never
supposed to get to sale. It was only supposed to
be a marketing gift that we sent out for Christmas

(19:47):
so that people knew what we did. So we explained, Hey,
this is what we can do for your company, This
is what we can do for your brand. This is
simply Christmas gift. Merry Christmas. See you guys in the
next year. Well, when we came back from Christmas, we
had orders and I was like, I said, it's not
for sale, and we actually had they know that. We

(20:09):
actually had a major department store in London reach out
and they wanted two under cases. So I was like,
maybe ten cases they get a had it. Yeah, so
they wanted exclusively for two years, so they had it

(20:30):
for two years. The next step into that is because
everything on that bottle I created. So that's that's all
of our doing everything. That's main factor, that's package, we printed,
we produced everything on there. So I do have a
little bit of a leg up because that's actually what
we do for a living. Um. But that's how it

(20:50):
all came about. And then as far as getting into stores,
it's the same. You got to knock on the doors,
you have to knock on every door. Um. Again, I
have a little bit of a lad up because I'm
already in the industry and I was already moving other
spirits and breads of products. So it's literally just a
phone call. Yeah, so called the plugs and they said
they want to taste the product. They tasted the product,

(21:12):
they love the product, and um as if you can
see on our i DS today, we're in Public's grocery
stores and so we put all those locations. It's like
it's like when you you used to be, like used
to like deliver weed to everybody, and then somebody finding
some good cocaine. Amen, let me taste it a little bit.

(21:39):
Let me rub some of this champagne on my gun. Right,
that's how you got it. I'm just saying, yeah, I
got a question for you. Only sell legal products. I
only sell little products. Yeah, yeah, respectfully, Yeah, licenses in alcohol. Yeah,
I personally are' stealing this for nobody because I ain't

(22:00):
trying to. But I love this. I love a good story.
I will buy a shoe if the marketing is awesome.
The shoe might not be ship but if they marketed
to me right, I'll buy it. And I'm kind of
the same with my products. Talking to me about the
name of and where the name came from, so that
everything about our brand is honest. It's true. Rusty Rabbit
comes from my grandmother. She passed away in two seventeen.

(22:23):
That was my baby, that was my girl. Um. So
this was my way of honoring her. I wanted the
world to know who she was, what she did, and
why all of this is here. Um. And So Rusty
Rabbit was her moniker for me. If she loved you,
if you were in her little tight personal circle, she
called you her rusty rabbit. Um. And so that's where
the name came from. And Laponria means rusty rabbit in French,

(22:51):
and that's how Rusty Rabbit cares track ties in there. Unfortunately,
cancer effects quite a few women in my family. My
mom battled breast cancer. My grandmother died, I from it,
My paternal grandmother died from it. So that's why that's
and I'm currently going through it. So that's why that's
such a um a prevalent advocacy that we we make
sure that people know about. So when we say we

(23:12):
party with a purpose, we definitely party with a purpose.
Every dollar from for every bottle sold, a dollar goes
to rest you avcres. We've now got the retaillers and
the distributors. They're matching us, um, so they're really excited. Yeah,
Nicole sixty seconds, Nicole, because I've had more fun talking
about who you are, but this is a segment where

(23:33):
we try to talk about who you were. Give us,
give us a quick, terrible job, or first job that
stands out for you and your past. So I worked
for a fabrics company when I was in high school.
I've always been a go getter always. I always had
a job. I've had a job. So I was like twelve, Um,
but I worked for I ran track and I played basketball.

(23:55):
I was really good at it. And um, I worked
for this fabric company and they had our schedule, they
had our school schedule, and they have my track schedule.
And one day the manager called and said, um, you
have to work on this Saturday. And I was like,
I'm gonna track. I don't work saturdays. And she was like, well,
you gotta lose your job. I was like, okay, do
you want me to send your apron back to you?

(24:15):
And she was like, but you can't just quit like that.
And I was like, you just said I was gonna
lose my job if I don't come to something that
you know I'm not gonna be at. And so my
dad he was like, well, you can't get sassy, and
I was like, I'm not sassy. I have a tracked me.
I'll be at my track me. I'm not going to
that job. So I came back on Monday, then moved
me from the schedule. So I thought I was just

(24:37):
coming in and give my key card and my you know, apron.
And then the district manager happened to be there that
day and he was like, we're gonna going because what
they didn't say. Also, I had the top sales like
I was. I was sixteen selling out the store, and
so he's like, we're gonna going. I was like, they
said I had to quit because I can't be here

(24:57):
on Saturdays. He's like, no, no, no, you're saying if
you could do this between my day and Friday, we
can only imagine. And so he was like, as long
as I agree to work for a summer, and I did,
and I was always a top sails person. It's a
terrible job. After the break the homey Rod's gonna come
on and take this show off the rails. Nicole, you

(25:18):
stay on the line because we want to know more
about the scams in the liquor and champagne industry. You
over there in France. How do you navigate being a
woman that black woman over there and that that white
look of business. It's the job there. We'll be right
back job there. We're talking Champagne. We got Nicole Johnson

(25:47):
standing by. She's gonna come back on and give us
a little Scam of the Week action and break down
what it's like being a black woman running Champagne and France.
How do you navigate racism overseas? Were you trying to
do international jobs? But uh, before we get back to Nicole,
is time to slow it down and welcome on the
show a brother whom I'm sure he's drink a lot

(26:11):
of champagne as he's celebrated negative pregnancy tests after negative
pregnancy tests fire. He's undefeated against pregnancy test lifetime record
of forty three oh and two. He is the author
of the New York Times bestseller How to Have Sex
in the back Seat of an Uberpool and Still Get

(26:33):
five stars. He's a former Merrill Lynch intern. That's actually
the truth. This MoMA named Muratto. We call him Rod
for short. Rod. We're talking Champagne for a little bit
for the front half of the show. And you know,
and I don't like wine. I like champagne. I don't

(26:53):
like wine. Wine is gross to me, all of it.
It tastes like it just tastes like a flat bottles
and James, why ain't cooler than me? I don't like
And most wine tastes like easter egg water. Remember you
get the little postive you were drinking drinking. I wouldn't

(27:22):
drink it, but right tastes like yeah, cider vinegar. That's
that's different than we've done. That wine makes it out
at about a hundred dollars. Whatever a hundred dollar wine is.
That's the finest quality you gotta get once you start

(27:44):
buying twelve hundred dollar about it. It just tastes like
the windred dollar bottle. It may not taste like your
ten dollars, but there's no difference between. Once you hit
a hundred dollars, you hit the cap. So no shot
told for you? Is that what you're saying? No, no, no, no,
no shot rough trial, None of that kind of hit
me with that. That hit me with that. Ruby Tuesday's

(28:04):
Robert Mundavie House. Let me get that on this one.
We have about two thousand Ruby Tuesday six dollars a
glass dollars ball, Yeah, let me get the ball. We
bring right on this program to give you topics to

(28:26):
break the ice for co workers. You can't stand co
workers at opposite race, people that are just generally boring
to be around. But you have no choice because they
work in the same place that you work to provide
for your family. Called the segment and turn it over
to you right well, it's the truth. This segment is
not for sharing stuff with your friends. I mean, but
don't you want to become friends with the coworkers. Never money,

(28:50):
You don't go here, you don't be right, You don't
give them one rod story to give them the funk
up off your right now. Something going on on the
other end right now is recently at the chess the
US Chess Championships and St. Louis, uh contested by the

(29:13):
name of Hans Nieman was subjected to damn near a
cavity search before the match started, uh he, which included
him getting checked, getting padded down, and then they scanned
his butt with the metal detector and things of that nature.
The chess and I know that sounds like, well what

(29:34):
they looking at a chess game? Okay, Well, what they're
looking for is. A couple of weeks before that, uh
Hansman was accused of cheating by another chess champion by
the name of Magnus Carlson. And one of the ways
in which you know that said, well, this is a

(29:54):
live event. He has no screens or nothing to look at,
and it's on tape delay. How could hea doing a
live chess match? And the accusation is that he was
using vibrating animal beat, vibrating signals to him in morse
code to tell him who Wow, I respect that, I

(30:16):
respect that. You gotta want to win, that's all you get. Wow,
no words? Do you know how the far certain pieces
on a chess board can move? Do you know? I
mean vibrations that I'm gonna meet myself. Here's a bigger question.

(30:38):
Let's say you gotta do what you gotta do. Here's
a bigger question. If you're sitting there and playing chess
and the beads start getting the jiggling and you can't
react to him. You gotta act like nothing's happening. And
I was like, you can't. He can't do none of that.
That category is not in wild on porn Hub. I

(30:59):
can tell you that right now, so yeah, please, Yeah,
I got a practice, I got a practice. Get it.
Get used to that feller five in the morning, like
rocket down, you'll be caught off guard. How far does

(31:19):
he have to shove them up his ass for his
opponent not to hear them? That's my question. You're playing
like music in the background, bro, like you got a
wooden chair, like well, usually the sex toys, sex toys
that vibrate have different settings for high and low, so
you gotta put them things on the lowest setting. So
then ride. Let me make sure I'm following this. He
puts it. He puts the beads up the old back porch,

(31:43):
and then someone else who's watching the match is then
using I don't know, the ain't no bead app or
whatever they're using it, like the app to control to
hit it. Then dot dot dot yeah, might three three
three buzzes beans, you know, like the Queen sire broke anything.

(32:15):
You're winning, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, You
got to do something. That's what they say. By the fact,
I'm gonna call it what's his brother's name? What's his name? Right?
Oh no, you're not Hans naming for putting them antle
beans up the old bat most calmly. Do you know

(32:36):
how long that match is? Jacquelins? Do? And do you
know how everyone moves? This is crazy boys getting nut
damn ain't getting his prostate, is getting at little soap
boy didn't wear black now and not motherfucking twitching, not

(33:10):
an orgasm at that table for that, Hans, you are
also Cody's most outstanding employee of the week, now, David,
I love that One's who's on the other side of
this pressing the buttons A fucking real friend, a true

(33:35):
friends called ahole. That's glory, that's glory story corner. You
can get it wherever you get this podcast riders always
we thank you, Thank you, bit you would do ship.

(34:03):
Thank you boy. What if he straight faced it the
whole time until that moment and then all of a
sudden he's just you don't think I see a moment,

(34:32):
all right, I say he's Cemo, I say he seem
if he was doing all that and taking the buzzers
the whole time and not making faces, I agree Cmo
all day. Oh yeah it was it was stock. It
was stock. If you stock, if you're stock in your
teens with analbe's at a chest retch. They're doing about watching.

(34:53):
You got to check the tapes. Check the tapes. We
got star this is this is a girl Balls episode.
We're supposed to be scam of a week to him. Now,
let's get it back to Nicole, CEO and president of
Rusty Rabbit International. You have this black woman on champagne

(35:15):
brand out of UK. When you were tinkering with your
herbs and spices to decide what lapin rod, I say
that when use the lapping ruler. He was looking at
lap and ruler. Yes, the process of refining the ingredients
and refining that I don't know, it's distilling is at

(35:36):
the right birth. So we do. We do distill um
So the process is one our great Our champagne is
completely different from everything on the market. We're a peanut grade.
Champagne is typically made out of three grades. That's peanot nor,
Chardonnay and peanot miner I personally do not like chardon
ay anything um. So my goal was to figure out

(35:59):
how I can. I don't like sweet, so because I
don't like sugar, I don't like sweet. I hate Chardonnay.
I didn't want anything that was bitter and so peanut,
peanomona and peanot nora are dark red grapes um and
most people don't know that, and chardonnay is a white
grape um, so you get the juiciness of the flavor

(36:20):
and behind it. That's how I chose it. Also, my
vineyard specifically sits on the four different soils that classified
how champagne is made. So my couvey, which is actually
is made from the combination of all four soils. That's
that classy ship roy. Oh, yes, let's go. If this

(36:44):
was meth you would have the breaking bad blue ice nicole.
What are some of the other ways we know when
we're getting scammed with bad champagne? Because I'm thinking about
everything that happened on dad Is and all of those shows.
They didn't drink bad champagne or burnt champagne. To be honest,

(37:05):
you should also look at the price point. Um, it
is impossible to make a six dollar You can make it,
but it doesn't taste like you know, so um, you
should look at price. But now I'm not saying that
the more expensive is it's good. That's not what I'm saying.
But what I am saying is that there's a there's

(37:26):
a lot of work that goes into it. So you're
talking about a year long harvest. So for instance, we
just finished our harvests um and so that normally goes between.
Because of climate change and global warming, it's getting earlier
and earlier. So normally used to be all of September.
Now we had did half of our harvest through August,
finished about septembert Then you have to watch the grapes

(37:48):
out Now they're at the press, so they bringing press.
Then from the press you put into either the barrel
or to the steal that we use. Still that then
when that's done, depending on what coovey you're doing. So
like our jose, we do use the great leaves of
our peanut, and you're a grape um and ours is
darker than most because we let it sit for a
little bit longer um. And then also for both our

(38:11):
boot in our rose, we have zero percent dosage, which
means that we don't add sugar to our champagne, which
others do. So I know that a lot of people
when they say, well I don't drink champagne because it
gives me a headache, it's because of the sugar content.
So we got rid of the sugar Contentum. Again, I'm
very specific about my grape with the peanut and it's prestige,

(38:34):
it's all the way through. It's my grandmother. So you
you must really be doing a damn thing. You didn't
get book a high yacht microphone? Come dropping out here? Yeah,
I know you got a question for it. You never
thank you for forcing me to be on the show. Again.
Thanks so much again, Nicole for coming. I wanted to

(38:56):
say that you're a woman after my own heart. For
saying that you hate in me as much as I do,
which is like I hate hard in it. I was
so happy to hear that you don't need those grapes
for your champagne. Um. But obviously coming and working in
such a white male dominated industry and then adding the

(39:16):
racism that only europe can do. Um, what are the
craziest battles, challenges walls you faced when you were trying
to kind of break in, um doing your own thing,
because I know you worked with brands beforehand, so um,
it was actually in the whiskey side, so um, I
represented a bourbon type of whiskey. And obviously because I

(39:39):
was in the UK and the rest of the world.
The first question I always ask is, well, what do
you know about whiskey? And both of my parents are
executive for Anheuser Busch, so alcohol has been in my
house very long time. Um and yeah, so for me
to actually come back into spirits, they laugh. And they
always taught me because I was like, I'm never you know,
I ate my words, um, but I've I've had to

(40:04):
be in situations where, um, either my dad or my
uncle had acts as if I was their secretary because
men would not speak to me even though I own
the company, I owned my licenses and things that nature. Um,
I have actually had drinks on me. Uh, you can't

(40:26):
like that on the job fair and not disclosed. Yeah.
So I was at a tasting, so they have these
liquor fares, right, so you call me do tastings? Do
you go table to table? And the story that we
were talking about with a particular brand, um is very
black centric and I was in a very white centric
atmosphere and the gentleman did not like the story that

(40:49):
we were telling. And I was like, well, there's nothing
I can do about it because it's a true story.
And then they threw their drinks on me. And nationality
of these paple this um they were Scottish and this
was oh my goodness, did you did you? And how

(41:09):
did do did you? I can definitely say that as
highly possible in that situation, I would not have responded
as classically as you might have done. How did you
respond to something like that? Like? How did you? I
threw the juggle water back. I support this. What happened
after that? I love that you threw water on them,

(41:31):
but I'm sure that's not where the story ending. Tell me.
It was a large gas and then people stepped in,
so it was you know, they removed them, and then
the event organ I just came to make sure that
I was okay, So it was very no one like
said anything to me, but they made sure I was okay.
They asked me that I need some time. They covered

(41:51):
the table because now there's you know, there's liquid everywhere,
you know, to care of all of that. And then
when I came back, everything had been cleaned up, it
was ready, but they excuse them, so they were removed
from the from the event. Now see this, I know
you are inspirational, Coude. Not only did you get her
yacht down south. Charge your girl trying to get in

(42:12):
in at you quick, go ahead round them. No, I
was gonna say, Nicole, you mentioned the impacts of climate
change and shifting of the harvest of your grapes. So
what are some of the other implications of harvests, I
mean of climate change that you've seen on you. So
what most people don't know is what champagne right when

(42:32):
you when you have your grapes, you don't add water.
So it's not like you go out and you water
your grapes. That's not Those are the rules of Champagne.
All of your water comes from the air, so it
comes from their rain, it comes from the atmosphere. So
you can only imagine what global warming is doing because
for instance, France had frost and hell last year, we

(42:53):
don't have that, um and then we have fire, so
we have all of these culmination of global warming. UM
aspects that are now changing are great, right, So that's
why we were concerned this year. Um what And to
also explain a little bit more about Champagne. When you
do your harvest, if you're a part of a collective,

(43:15):
which we are not, we stand on our own. It's
our own video. We are able to produce our own
champainn But say you're in a collective, there's a certain
there's only a certain amount that you're able to harvest,
and that number is set by the previous year. So
if you're going down and you're not able to get

(43:36):
as much as a bushal as you would expect, then
you're going to suffer the next year. And so then
we wait to find out the next year how much
was harvested, how much we were able to to get,
so that sets the tone for the next year. But
then you also have your pandemic has now affected um
supply chains, So even with things that we produced, getting

(43:56):
the wrong materials isn't as easy as it previously was. Nicole,
how hard is this day in and day out? I
couldn't even imagine. Yeah, to business people, it's hard, you know,
like you can just be a secretary that sh It's hard.
You know, it doesn't matter what's what hat you where Personally,
it's a very difficult situation. And so you hope that

(44:17):
you have the people around you and the atmosphere to
cultivate to make sure you're okay, and when you don't,
you hope that internally, you have your ship together just
enough to be like, Okay, let get through this for you.
I love what you're doing, and I just want to

(44:37):
show that we can do this. We're always told that
we can't do this or we don't do it right.
Have I ever? Have I always got shipped right? No?
I have messed up a lot, but I do my
best to fix it, to cultivate it and to make
sure that we're standing correct. You're amazing, nic Nicole. How
hard is this day in and day out? I couldn't

(45:01):
even imagine and knowing how hard all of this is.
Where do you get your strength? The racism, the Boys Club,
the global warming, you're surviving cancer and helping others. Where
is all of this energy and just will coming from

(45:24):
the cold? So we love it? Um I again, always
just a tribute to my grandmother. I watched her raised
six kids, she watched the entire neighborhood, She watched all
of her grandkids. Um. She was a Sunday school teacher,
she was the head of the deaconess board. She was
always classy, always dressed, and she was just a genuinely

(45:46):
amazing woman. So I want that story told because that's
who we are as a people. We're not what's always displayed,
and I want to make sure that that's also conveyed.
You know, it's not just other since that do that.
We do it too, and a lot of times we
do it better. So that's what my story is out

(46:07):
and that's why I made sure that everything is prestige, luxury, priceless.
This has been a phenomenal conversation. Last question, then, Madame Micole,
it is your company hiring? Can I work at lappin rule?
Can I be a great step aerona? Can I be

(46:28):
a label put our own a person? Like what is
up of the positions that your company might be dabbling in? Yes,
um So, I will be out of completely out of
the business for the rest of the year. So we
are now looking for brand ambassadors in the following states
that we have distribution. Um So, Yes, we are hiring
um and we have been fortunate. I've been my mentor

(46:50):
in the business. I've known him for like ten years.
Has now come over and taken over the reins for me.
Um and he's got thirty years the business and the
entire team is black are tired, so we are marketing
will always stay black. We've we've we've heard about that

(47:14):
always be a black woman or a black man in
our marketing. Um. But yes, we are hiring and we
are looking for people in New York, California, Texas, Georgia, Tennessee. Okay,
and where are we going to apply for all of
these posses? So they can go to www dot lapon
l A p I n A r o u I

(47:37):
l l E dot com. They can go to Rusty
Rabbit International dot com, or they can just email us
at hello at rusty Rabbit International dot com. Nicole Johnson
of Rusty Rabbit International, thank you so much for coming
on the show and sharing everything with it's and we're
gonna buy about for the cases that it is its lap.
I really appreciate that. Thank you, guys. No, we just

(48:00):
ask people to supporters, follow us and tell tell someone
else about us. Girl Boss a week on the job
for every gonna bring it home after the break with
two wonderful women that have created an app that brings
women together who are dealing with post pardon depression and
having to go right back into the workplace. It's the
job Fair. We'll be right back job Fair. We're bringing

(48:29):
it home. We had a couple more girl bosses to
talk to women who are running ship doing the damn thing.
Thank you to Nicole Johnson over there across the pond,
gonna send us a whole bunch of lock Pin Roulet
and not new tequila. Third congratulationship Tequila free tequila in
a couple of years, whenever they get that ship together.
If the wildfires don't burn down all the tequila fields,

(48:53):
I don't know, that's what she was talking about. J
She was talking about the fires burning up all the
ship and else. I understand, but we don't have to
be we don't have to reiterate it and make it.
I am rooting forward. I said. If I don't say,
I hope to say I hope that tequila fields get
burned up. That wrong. To figure out how tequila's maid,
I don't know. I keep saying I'm gonna drink it regardless.

(49:16):
Can't we just go out there and squeeze it out
to tequila berries and come from a tequila berry. It's
like one big tequila berry that grows from the dirt
and then you squeeze it out and make tequila and
you put it on a barrel. Pretty sure, I don't
even check that something like that. I'm sure that's how
that work. Now here's something they're not, no, absolutely nothing about,

(49:38):
and that is postpartum depression. Now we do know about
being a parent, but you know, we talked about this
early at the top of the show, and just this
idea of discrimination in the workplace where women the idea
of having a child could be a detriment to your
career and the duality of trying to navigate mother hood

(50:01):
and combing the fucking job ladder. It's a very hard
thing to do. Thankfully, two cubases have Creative it app
to support these women, to let them know that they're
not alone what they're doing. J G rack 'em up.
We have the founders of Phoebe and it's Emily and
Carolina and Phoebe is focused on late pregnancy and postpartum

(50:25):
and they're also addressing infertility, fertility and the adjustments to midlife.
Welcome ladies, thank you for having us, Thank you, it's
great to be here. First and foremost tell us about Phoebe.
There's almost nothing more important than we could be doing
and supporting working mothers. Working mothers make up a third

(50:45):
of the u S workforce. Many working mothers not only
are working harder at work, but they're working hard at home.
And a lot of working mothers are the red winners.
And so what Phoebe ultimately wants to do is in
an environment in the United States where we don't have
federal any any federally mandated paid maternal leave, we're not

(51:08):
supported politically, we're not supported socially. Um. We are we
struggle to get good health care for motherhood and that
kind of all trickles down right, um. And so what
we're trying to do is be a place that uses
tex So we have an app that is connecting women,

(51:28):
and so we're connecting peers across industries women as they
become mothers. We are supporting them from pregnancy or expecting,
all the way through postpartum and all the way back
to working motherhood. And we're doing that through education. We're
doing it through mentorship, We're doing it through access to
experts and expert support. You know, more and more people

(51:49):
are disconnected from their families, are disconnected from what's even
like when they become a mother. In a way, you
all have created a community that helps people deal with
a new job, you know, which is being a mother
and how to balance that with everything else that you
were doing before that, and to have them prepare for

(52:10):
a lot of the hurdles that are foreseen and some
that are unforeseen that a lot of people may not
have taken into account. Our researcher down South Georgia girl
pulled up a number of facts just about you know
what is called the mother handicap. And you know for
each child that a woman has, she gets a five
to pay cut on average. Meanwhile men get a six

(52:35):
percent pay bump. This is really messed up. What can
men do to help this? Like men in the c suite,
men empower men and management positions, Like what can be done?
What can what can men do to help out with this? Yes? Yes, exactly. Third,
and how do women fight for this? Like how do
women fight for these rights without putting their own employment

(52:57):
at risk in the process. I think it depends on
sort of where you are in a company. If you're
a decision maker as to how employees are treated broadly, um,
then you have to put sort of the right policies
in place. And if if you really look at it,
it's a bit counterintuitive, but you have to respect men

(53:19):
as parents, as much as you respect them as workers
and do the same for women. So if you have
a culture where men are expected to take leave and
they do to become a parent, then women are no
longer sort of an expense. Women are no longer sort
of the ones that take leave and cost the company money.
Women are no longer the ones that need sort of

(53:42):
that needs some sort of um notice ahead of a
meeting at six thirty because they have to pick up
their kids. Um So, you no longer have to accommodate
women as mothers if you also understand that men are
fathers and respect that as well. Now, Carolina, we know
at you yourself dealt with postpartum but returned to the

(54:04):
workforce sooner than you should have. What kept you from
taking all of your maternity leave? And it better be
something good because you have to take care of you
in the field that I was in. Um So, first
of all, my company at the time that three months
paid leave, which which is companies now are extending it.

(54:26):
But for many women that are still a luxury, and
it was definitely a luxury back then. And if I
had taken a longer leave, I would not have I
could have potentially put my career at risk. And I
knew that. I knew that before I had children. And
so when you get to granted this is this is
a sort of a privileged position to be in in

(54:47):
the first place. Um, but even if you are in
that position, you are so very aware that there's a
trade off and if you don't want to get penalized
for becoming a parent, you come back to work. But
the problem is that if our country right now, if
you think look at the numbers, like more and more
women are graduating with degrees in law than men, More

(55:09):
women are graduate degrees in science and men, more women
and healthcare than men, and so you have a bigger
pool of female talent, and most of them are going
to become mothers and so and and and in certain
communities most of those mothers are going to be the
primary breadwinners. And so it is a problem as a

(55:33):
society if we are not finding ways to reduce that
gap and give women chances to get back in the game.
Tell us about this app, now, our man allowed on
this app. Let's start there. Can I come on as
a man? Can I come on there and google matter
to you ladies, what you'll need to do? Can is
there is there a man splaining tapp anyway, we have

(55:57):
had a male civil parents um on the platform, so
we are inclusive for every type of family, so that
the app works this way, right, you are in a
group with other individuals who are experiencing the same thing
at the same time you are, So you're having a
shared experience with another group of people. And then you

(56:18):
have experts and you can connect with them sort of
a couple of times a week and actually ask your
questions that you're having right then about the things you're
struggling with or the things you're trying to figure out.
And then we have content you can access any time.
And then you have a care advisor or adula or
a coach who's assigned to you, so you have someone
who's watching out for you personally. And this is a segue,

(56:39):
but a lot of the people we're dealing with, their
self esteem is crushed after going through this experience, and
so there's a whole other part about rebuilding that you
can't just do because you have more maternity lead or
more fraternity leave. We really need. We're trying to always
say we're trying to bring self esteem back. We want
women to value and in much inside and outside right

(57:02):
as much as we want the companies to value them.
So I was curious because personal experience, I've witnessed a
lot of moms either you know, have complicated pregnancies or
when women come back, I've had friends to dealt with
postpartum depression. I'm curious from your experience because I was

(57:23):
shocked to see a lot of times it's women in
these leadership roles who are not that kind to new
moms coming back. And a lot of these women actually
have children, and there's kind of just double standard or
maybe they've forgotten because their children are older and they
forget how how difficult it was to have young children. Um.
And so it's not necessarily men who are at the

(57:45):
at the helm being like, you know, screw you, Nancy,
I'm going to cut your pay. What has been your
experience Have you seen that it's kind of like equal
balance in terms of like equal offenders across the gender
of leadership to new moms. Sometimes what you see with again,
not everyone, but we do hear that story a lot.

(58:05):
Sometimes what you hear with sort of the last generation
of women who went through the workforce to leadership positions
is they had absolutely no support and the odds were
completely against them, So they just had an extreme amount
of grit and perhaps they made sacrifices with their family
to get to the position they are in their career
that the next generation does not want to make any longer.

(58:28):
So when they look back, it's this, I did it,
why can't you? But maybe instead of that being the question,
the question is I did it that way because I
didn't have a choice. Why can't we change it so
more people can be successful and get to this position.
That's the right question to ask. The app is Phoebe.
The website is high Hi phoebe dot com. We're gonna

(58:49):
put that in the job Fair socials. Thank you all
so much for what you're doing to make the workforce stronger,
and we appreciate you and thank you for coming on
the job Fair. Thank you for having us. That's the show, Royce.
Job Fare is a product of High Heart Media, Comedy,
Central South Park and Preston Productions Girl Bosses. We did

(59:10):
It j G. Now. I noticed wasn't quite Women's History Month,
but you know, it's nice to kick back with the
ladies an episode. You know, we didn't do a thing
so I should I should have given him a little
song girl about And you're running in and you've got
that sham thing, and you delivered Rye Thirl postpartum depression,

(59:37):
and you gotta act that a fixed maternity leave. No, no,
if you give me time to write and have some
more fire ship after is not a head. This has
been a Comedy Central podcast