February 8, 2023 • 39 mins
Ten-year NBA veteran and current Analyst for the Houston Rockets, Ryan Hollins, is joined by NBA vet and host of the podcast 'Knuckleheads,' Quentin Richardson. Ryan and Q-Rich discuss Tari Eason's recent performances and the players they're excited to see in the Rising Stars player pool. Q-Rich shares some of his rookie stories from draft night.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
Hey, this is Ryan Hollins and you are listening to
NB a rookie like man, And I'm gonna let you know, man,
this is one of my funniest episodes on the show Man.
I sat down with my guy Cure Rich and on
the run out here Tom Richards in one Landfa Chard
And for those who don't know, Man, keep me and
q Rich actually go back. We have an intriguing relationship. Man.
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It all started off. I was a young guy. I
was at u C l A at the time Q
was in the league, and I remember these are one
of my first experiences going into the gym, not just
any gym, playing in l A, the mecca of all gems.
With all of the current NBA players. You had two
three courts full of NBA stars going. I mean, Shaq
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will pop in, uh Baron Davis, Prime, Baron Davis, Paul Pierce,
who had all these guys, Sean Mary and Joe Johnson.
You had a gym full of guys, Ricky Davis, these
guys in their prime, you know, number all stars would
come in and I remember this one time I go
in the gym CUsing and they keep in mind, Hugh
Rich is a a l a legend. I tried to
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legend in for three for the cue man. Keep that
in mind, all right. I knew him from his Clipper
days and click, Hugh Rich has a bit of a
reputation of a man. Don't mess with q Rich, all right,
don't mess with it. That's not the guy. You don't
want to pick an argument with that guy. And my
first time in this gym, q Rich is holding his
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own he's doing his thing, and he's going head up
with Paul Pierce, and he and Paul Pierce proceed to
get into it, and it got very, very loud. And
not only this is old school basketball. I missed this
basketball where guys played and competed and nothing got crazy,
nobody fought, but the level of competition that spurred into
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the gym. We were all stopping our game from our
court to look over on that court and going, oh
my goodness, Paul All he's going at it with que
and Paul is a bad man. He's an all start
at the time, Cute Rich is a monster, and we're like, man,
we don't know if if Paul wants a piece of
this one man. We love Paul, this is our guy.
We don't know if he wants a piece of this.
But this ended up being a heavy weight about so
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needless to say, but I knew Paul because Paul would
come to gym real tim. I didn't know Q. But
I was like, Man, I don't fear nobody. I might
have a little bit of fear. I might be scared
of this dude right here. This dude is nuts. You
didn't want no piece of que Ricy from Chicago. You'll
know what he's capable up bad. He's in l a
and he's letting the whole gym have it. So you know,
I know Q. I kind of see him, don't interact
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with him. I'm scared of cute you know. So years
later go by, As a matter of fact, his whole
NBA career goes by. My whole NBA career goes by.
We are at the Big Three, And as we're sitting
there at the Big Three, I'm walking and um, I'm
seeing a lot of my my former guys man at
the Big Three. That's what's beautiful about that Big Three experience.
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And I've running a cute rich And when I'm wanting
to cute rich man, I'm a little nervous man. Because
he got the reputation. We bring it up and we
started talking and I go, man, man, I was scared
of you dog, you like you like. It was like
Mike Tyson is pride walking around. He was like a
pit bull off the leach Man nobody. Hey, you gotta cute.
You got it all right, you know. And we started talking. Man.
I was like, man, this guy is cool. Was the
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other side of the pillow. Man, this is a good
dude right here. And we chopped it up, man, And
you know, we definitely had a mutual respect for him.
I was with him, and I was like, man, this
guy's a whole lot nicer man, a whole lot of friendlier,
didn't I thought, Because I saw him in I saw
him in war mode. I saw Chicago que. That's what
we like to call. I saw Chicago que. I saw
war mode. And then q Rich came along as this time,
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I'm getting into broadcasting and q Rich. Q was actually
coming out of People don't know he worked um in
the front office for the Detroit Pistons. He did an
excellent job there, and people don't know that about cute.
So I am working for the Clippers. I'm doing like
a pre and post working for the team and doing
my broadcasting thing, and Q comes in. And when Q
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comes into the game, because he's gonna do something for
his freedom post, he's just kind of wandering around the
Meetia room and I'm like, how they got q rich
just meandering around the rule Man, this is crazy. He's
got this suiting tire all because he's gonna he's gonna
come on the show. He's gonna do a segment with us, man,
And he was just started. I guess he decided to
kind of flirt with broadcasting. You'll try this out, you know.
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And um, I remember just sitting down and telling them like, hey, man,
the food is over here. We're gonna go here. You're
gonna come meet up here and follow me. You with
me back, because I'm like, man, this dude is a
legend right here, especially you know, with the Clippers in
the l A and we're just sitting there and we're
chopping it up and we're talking. Man. And for those
who don't know, for us former players that go out
into the media world, there's no template, you know, to
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do it. And if you weren't NBA All Star whatever,
they just treat you. You You just somebody else on the
other side. So we're here off and we're talking. This
is before Knuckleheads, before any of that was kind of
out and happening. And Q does a segment there and
everything works out, and we keep in touch and we connect,
and you know, that relationship is growing. And I was
approached about a show that was coming out through Turner Sports,
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UM and Yahoo connected and they were gonna have you know,
kind of breaking down the NBA. You fly out to
Atlanta and I had locked in to do the show
with NBA TV. I was doing ESPN at time of
doing Fox. I was just just any and everywhere at
the moment, and within the show you kind of paired
off in partners. I think Gary Payton was a part
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of it, if I'm not mistaken, but Kenya Martin may
have been a part of it. Vincent Goodwill, rise gold
on what a a lot of people there, And at
the last second we look up, I don't have a partner.
They're calling Q Rich. So the next thing you know,
me and Q Rinch was just gotten into broadcasting, had
partnered up on this show. It called about to be
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a turn of Sports. So we fly out to Atlanta
and we do the show man, and our relationship continue
to build. Man, we became not just friends with brothers
because every single day we're kicking it, we're talking in
b a but man, me and a dude, we were
spending a lot of time together, and I think to
see somebody that has a love for their family, who
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is real behind the scenes, who's organic, who treats everybody
the same, whether the you're the janitor in the arena,
you're the owner of the whole building. Q Quentin Richards
is gonna treat you the exact same. Man. So this
guy has been my brother from day one. So for
me to have him on NBA Rookie Life and having
to see behim the chance of being an l a kid,
to see him as a rookie and all this come
full circle, man, and sit down with him. I'm telling
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you right now we are in store for an amazing,
amazing episode. After the break, we're talking with Q rich
about rookie news from this week and the rising Stars
player pool in this week's Hottest Highlights. How is everybody doing?
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We want to welcome you into NBA Rookie Life with
Brian how islands Man and listen, this is a very
special episode. This ain't my homie, this ain't my dog.
This is my brother here right now. Listen. He is
an NBA three point champion eight many of those, the
National Freshman of the Year, Conference USA Player of the Year,
two time first Team All Conference USA, and Mickey Deed's
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Mickey D's All American Man. None other than heads have
knuckle heads. Old man, my dog. Quitza Richard said, Que,
what's up with your boy? Hey, Man, appreciate you having me, Bro,
appreciate you having nah Man first to appreciate you for
coming through. Man. Now, q we want to do something
fun with you. We know your great analysts and we
want you to break down a little play man our guys.
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Harry Easton had a sequence last night and we got
a battery in this pact. Boy he got has a
crazy motor. Yeah, he got a crazy motor. Let's see now,
you man, I know you do a great job with
the magic. I'm I'm a rockets guy. Okay, forgive me,
so I gotta bring you come on show with some love.
We didn't apolo few times now on this you gotta
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rock with it. Yeah, I want you to to break down
this place from Tar Easton Man, this is one of
the most grindingness, gritty, hustling places we've seen. Man running
this clip and tell me what you seek you all right,
he's playing jobs, getty switched out. Oh get a good block.
That's athletic, just just being in the right place. Oh
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say gonna oh effort, effort, Bro, He's like one on three,
one on four, Bro, this is this is this right here,
just tells you rebounding and it's all about warning and
one that batter than the other person and just effort. Okay,
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see missed it again Like I've always been lead that
like Ryan, you know me, y'all love dudes, gonna go
that extra amount of just play. He has a motor.
This dude is gonna play hard regardless. You can put
him in, you could bring call him up to the
part he wanted them dudes. Bro, it could be you
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need you got nine, you need one. He's gonna be
coming from the store something. He got his gear on here,
come out there, and he about to play hard as ever.
You know what I'm saying about to get you about
thirteen fourteen boys, But that play right there, that was
just I wanted batter than any of y'all in the
blue shirts, and I could prove and he did and
ended up with an and one. Like how many total
rebounds and you get on that whole player, how many
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he get credited for? I think he got at least
four or five on the possession. He had twelve offensive rebounds,
so he's up there. I think he tried to come
with Hakim Elijah. He had twelve offensive rebounds. And listen,
my man just got the news that you know, we'll
we'll see if he makes it into the Rookie Challenge
or not. But he got the news that he wasn't
in and Q, I know you love that. This is
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how he responds. You know a lot of dudes soap.
This is how he responded. Listen, this is always the
right sponsor. Come out and go, Craig. I don't care
if it's whatever you're getting snubbed for. Always take it
out on the court. Man. Don't don't do no sucking
stuff talking about who did and hating on nobody because
they ain't do it to you. They ain't the voters
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and all that. Man, come out and who let your
game speak for itself. You ain't gotta take nobody off
that list. To be able to say that you belong,
you ain't gotta say take this person off and just
just show that you belong. Young fella, all y'all that
I like, don't talk about nobody else. Just go out
there and do your thing. And when you do your thing,
it's gonna show up and it's gonna shine enough. I
want to ask you, man, you do a good job
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breaking down the league. You know you work with the
Orlando Magic. Do a great job there also, man um,
is there anybody from this Rising Stars Challenge that you're
looking out for? Anybody's surprised you? What are you looking for?
And you got you got your guy Polo Jail and
during in there a j Griffin, Jane and Ivy our
guy Walker Kessler who killed it and you interview you
actually interviewed a lot of these guys for the draft.
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Shout out your New Era by the way, Keethan Murray
and junem Hard Jabart Smith Jr. That's my guy where
a partner New Era partners you know, shout out you
know this so high Jeremy so Hugh, Mr Rodman himself
and Jaylen Williams. Anybody's surprised you on that list. I
don't want to say surprised. I can say who who
who the guys that excite me, man, like all those
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guys excite me and I like them the well, Actually,
I will say the surprise to me was so so
hungham one jaws, the double team that leaks so hand open,
click maker pay coming underneath, how he is nice like I,
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I didn't know, like you know, somebody dying in here,
So I didn't know if he was a gimmick or whatever.
I didn't pay I've seen him at Baylor, but I
didn't pay close attention to him at all like that,
but I had to. I had a call about two
or three of the games in the row. I had
an NBA Hooper Vision game, then the Clippers game back
to back, and I was just like, yo, buddy is
a hybrid defender. He's got a multiple the fix the
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positions and not only that, like offensively, he gotta he gotta,
he got a little to box with him. He could
do some stuff. Was like, yo, he is nice hyde
motor Like I said, pop got a nice when I
want to see what he turns. So I will say
he was a surprise for me, but uh, everybody know
the rookie of her Polo man stuff that Carol Hello
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the back up home and was putting on and show
Paolo that bad boy down here in Orlando. I get
to see way too often that man. He listened, He
got all of it. He got everything he can he can.
And the thing that's most impressive about him at sixteen,
like because he'll legit six teen, is that his his handle,
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his handle. He could go get a bucket on his own.
You could put him out there and don't run nothing,
and he gonna go get a bucket. And like when
I say individual one on one game, like he giving
people the business his pull up mid range game way
one with you than he is way years ahead of
them to him being a rookie, and like he hitting
it on good defensive player because he bigger than them.
And then just like how that ball handing ability and
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be able to do what he is and then he
he gets the line, bro, Like that's what lets you
know he's a he's a bucket. When you know guys
that could get to the free throw line. He's had
games with thirteen fourteen free throws. He averages at least
seven or six or eight or something. Like he's one
of the He's got to be like the top bookie
and free throw shooting and attempts at least and then
he shoots free throws well, shoots at a high percentage.
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But who else do I like? Man out there, Ivy
k oh No, that's Jay Navy. I like a lot
of Detroit But I'm gonna tell you probably probably been
in him here. Boy, he definitely gonna be first if
it won for polo, he might be a Rookie of
the Year for real, that boy co I like him,
I like, I like everything, but he got the size, athleticism,
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his shock gonna keep getting better. You know, he's shooting
threes right now, but it's gonna get ways better as
he you know, spend more time in the league. But
it Santa Clara's Jalen Williams just saw him last night.
Half listen, bro, listen bro. I got he wanted the kids.
I got to interview him at the at the draft
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shoutout that he had to he had the Dion Sanders
who uh little cross ring dangling boy had a flat
Gucci suit on the whole suits Guchi. I see young
fella new money. But listen, gas nice we got the
crazy like seven four or seven five wingspan, and he
out there nice. He like he could. I feel like
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he could. He could initiate offense. But they got obviously
they got guards in shade and and um giddy. But
to me, that boy could play one through three and
then you know, some four of you wanted them to
because out here big guard, this gifted. That's why, Okay,
see sneaky for the future. That's why they're sneaky for
the future. They got a lot of big They got
big and that got wings that, like you said, initiate offense.
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They got three folk guys you can run it with.
Jalen Williams is gonna be nice. Bro. I feel like
he's gonna have a bright, bright future. Kid is tough.
I didn't. I didn't got to see them play a
lot between you know, doing the Magic Games, Hooper Vision
and Bolivish Lie. I got to see this kid. I'm impressed.
Coming up next, you Richard sharing some of his favorite
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rookie moments. Stay toned man, you we gotta get into it. Man,
you were the eighteen pick in the two thousand draft. Man.
Good evening and welcome to the two thousand NBA Draft
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at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. What was that like?
And take me through draft day? What was draft day like? Like?
Who are you with? Were you a green room guy?
Who who went to the draft with you? Who? Who
was around? Talk me through that experience, man? And it
wasn't like, Man, I'm I'm about to be number one
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in this bad boy? Were you? Man? I came out
to draft with a chip on my shoulder. Dog you
know me, you always go my head. I had a
chip on my shoulder. But take me through that day?
Who were you with? Who'd you walk in with? Feelings? Emotions? Man?
Were you cocky? Q? Back then? When you chill? Q? What? What?
What's going on? Man? Let me get the story. So,
first of all, fortunately I was blessed enough to be
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a green room guy. Did go to the actual draft.
I drafted back then, this was before it was just
in New York City every year I used to move around,
so this particularly years in Minneapolis, Minnesota at the Target Center.
So I went out there. My family took my step mom, pop, sister, bros.
You know, then a couple of my uh you know,
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my best friends then my best friends to this day.
Now did you pay for anybody at NBA paid for that. No, no, no,
that's you know, we're footing that bill. Fortunately, I had
great representation, so I wasn't sing like I didn't have
already got you know, shout out to Jeff Wexler had
already secured me and deep miles Upper Day. You know,
card deal, nice nice card deals that were you know,
sustained us over the summer and um, you know had
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us situated. So you know, we had a couple of
deals in place, so we were able to take care
of our family. We had you know, everybody come down
the mass had his mom and his his fam come down,
so you know, we're down there. We were in were
in Minnesota. We're about to kick it, have a good time.
But for me, you know, I wasn't expected to be
the you know, the top pick or anything like that.
For me, it was it was definitely a lot more
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murky for than than the minds. He was expected to
go on the top three or four pigs, four short
no letters, you know really literally no later than three
or four whatever. But for me, I was in that
I was in that range where it's like you could
go as high as like ten or you can go
as low as like twenty two. So hold on, bro,
you and d Miles knew each other even before the draft,
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before all this, I mean played you together Chicago Warrior
with Illinois Warriors. So you know, she demuses from East St. Louis.
So he was one of the guys was downstayed our
AU coach Larry Butler. You know, he was always looking
around trying to add to our team, and he met
him at one of his spotlight events and then you
know he next to you know, he joined, He brought
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him down to join the team. So you know, East St.
Louis from Chicago's like three three hours or more. And
so when he would come to play on the team
and be he would stayed to stay at my house,
you know, because it wasn't like he was going back
before we had a weekend tournament. So like, yeah, men,
I met Darius and he's in eighth grade. I was
a sophomore junior. Hold on man who was on this team.
Were crewed up, bro. I mean, it depends on which year,
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but over the years, you know, uh, Bobby Simmons, Corey mcgetty,
Frank Williams, uh, you know, we we was we was
like that. And then my boy, you know that our
main court was the guys that you know really did
out that are my best friends, like you know, Cordell Henry,
Dennis Gates, Rid Thompson, Brian Ward who's now coach. Dennis
Gates is now coaching in college, and um, you know,
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we were really the court of the team. But we added,
you know, added in some track of different guys over
the years. We yeah, wars there will be Larry Butler
headed down. For a long time. We was, we was,
we was all letting in the shop. But yeah, so
we we That's when me and d Males man. Man,
That's that was the crazy thing about us, you know,
developing this relationship and you know, I'll go to college
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and I'm still coming back to the program and seeing
them play at different places. And then you know, he
goes and when he when his time, I go to
my sophomore year. I could have left my freshman year,
but I come back and that turned out to be
Darius the senior year. And the course of that senior year. Man,
like I remember, he came to DePaul to visit, you know, school,
and I'm just hosting. I'm sitting here looking at him like, bro,
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no way, Like all right, we got his little high
hundred and fifty bucks for the weekend, what we're about
to do, But no way, bro, like you out of you.
I'm telling him about it. At this point, he's at
east Side High and he's St. Louis and man, he's
posting quadruple doubles Queen tuble doubles and like he's going
crazy out there. And he was like he was a
one man show, playing like every position and the same
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thing you saw when you got to the league. Imagine
just putting that in high school. He was the six
nine stupid crazy wings being crossing people, dunking on people,
blocking shots on the steel three on one, thank you,
Darius Files and Miles getting it back on the turnover
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and Miles scores again, Miles and Miles again, Darius, Miles
just doing everything. So it was like when I told him,
I was like, Bro, you got no no like. And
I was like, I'm gonna introduce you to the agents
that I'm meeting with now. And that was how we
ended up going with the same agent. We both had,
Jeff Webs for our entire career. Still I got now
to this day, that's like family. You know what I'm saying.
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It ain't forget agent and all of that's like family
for for me. You know what I'm saying. Jeff is
like like a big brother slash like big brother figured
it then then helped us and helped me to so
much game, Bro. But back to the draft, Jeff is
dead with a David. At the time, we were SFAX.
So David Folks was like the big guy at the company,
and you know, he had all the other agents and
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Jeff was one of the guys, but he was Jeff
was always our our agent. You know. David Folks was
never he was you know, I guess, the big big
guy the company. But our personal guy was always Jeff.
So that's you know, that's that's that's my man. So
were there and the whole time, you know, I'm knowing.
The other thing that was crazy for me. I worked
out for the Celtics had like two or three picks.
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I don't know how many picks they had, but they
had some picks, multiple are back to back picks in
that draft for something. And they worked out for them
three times, Bro, leading up to the Jai. You know,
he had to work outs. I worked out for him
three different times. We get to the night before the draft.
They're trying to have me come have him do like
a meeting and do another workout with them Patino and
Jim O'Brien, and all I'm like, man, not was this
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was this Anton Walker, Derek Derek Derrick Anderson who was
Celtics was this, Well yeah, no, d A was never that.
That was Kentucky. But yeah, uh he was Twine Cybertwine
is definitely that. I'm a young boy, you know they
had Yeah, Cybertlin was the man at this point Slides
five get to walk at Hill check Nick. But it
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still was like, no, we're not going to do another
workout the night before, so you know, we get that. Man.
But the but, the whole, the whole, everything was dope. Bro,
you wake up, you'd be like you stupid, dumb nervous
because it's it's like finally it's now it's today, and
it's like, you know, you got your little suit, your clothes.
You gotta do a couple of things, but then it's
time to like put on your suit, go get on.
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You gotta get on. Know, we had to get on
the bus. They're gonna bust Us all over together and
you know, you get on the bus all other draft picks, draftees,
they s you black and who else? Who's the other
big names of the draft? Nah, the big name was
Kmart Kmark was the number one overall picks. With the
first pick in the two thousand NBA draft, the New
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Jersey Nets select Kenyan Martin from the university and since
but he he had just went crazy, was National Player
of the Year and Cincinnati his senior year and that
was when he had hurt his leg in a tournament,
but he still was the overall consensus. He was to
dude him. You had strow Mouth Swift, who was a
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high he was like three or something. And Mike Miller
was the number five pick in one Rookie of the
Year that year. Uh, Mike Red was actually second round
and he was like, you know, one of the one
of the biggest names out of our draft. But then
you had you had Young Mall. You had Maul Crawford
who only played like ten games at Michigan. Mall was
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in it. Mall was was a Mall was like at
the time he was an anomaly because he had only
played ten games or something. Like that in college at
Michigan and then he left school and so they had
it was like, you know, all of that, we don't know,
and we don't have a lot of tape. So he
actually was one of the guys that went to the
NBA combine in Chicago and played you already know everybody,
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and so he went from kind of like in the
middle to the unknown ground to like he ended up
getting picked either seven or eight, I can't remember him
and Chris Man got traded. So whichever pick Jamal was,
Chris Man, did you play in Chicago or no? No, no,
for those who don't know. For pre draft, a lot
of guys go there to prove themselves and if you
proved yourself and your stock was high enough, you didn't
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go play. So Q didn't play. I super random. I
skipped it too, bro, I kid you not. I had
to work. I skipped it too. It worked out for me,
but I skipped it to a lot of guys don't play.
I wasn't even the top pick, but it still wasn't
like I felt, you know, my Jeff and all of
us felt that I had done enough not to have
to participate in that. Even though I wasn't a top
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pick overall, like that situation. But so we get that, man,
we get that you're kicking it with everybody, and it's
kind of like, you know, then you gotta go do
take pictures and do different things, and you know all
of that stuff. So all of that stuff is cool. Man,
then you you actually gotta go sit at the table.
You sit down at your m you see where everybody's sitting.
There was dope. Man. The mouse table was literally right
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next to man, Like, we got pictures to this day
on T shirts and stuff and me holding the camp
cord and slapping five with him while he right here.
This is before it starts. And so man, it's like
the dope thing for you know, the mouse came up
the board quick. I can't think he was four? Was
he three or four? He was one of the next
KG bro next KG right, So but we knew that
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was happening, and it was like boom were you know,
we all celebrated me and him dapthed of shook up.
You know what I'm saying. He'd go up there shakes
David Stern's hand in the two thousand in the NBA draft,
the Los Angeles Clippers selected Darius Miles of East St.
Louis High School. I remember when that happened because I
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remember because this was the crazy part about it. The
Clippers drafted him right, so then you know all of
that happened, and um, you know when that's happening like
the way we did it, because they knew that the
man is gonna be one of the earliest picks on
my agent. Jeff, he's sitting with you know, he sitting
with him at the time when he first get picked. Right,
So he gets picked, they passed out all the hats
and everything, everybody plumbing hats and they do all of
(26:06):
that right. So then he moves on and they take
him behind the scenes. You know, you got as soon
as you get drafted, you go hit that little that
little circuit where you're taking pictures, doing interviews, calling people,
blah blah blah. Your team call you back to all
of that. So then he as he does that, Jeff
gets up and come to sit with me now, because
now I'm gonna be his guy. Is taking next now.
The whole time when he comes over, Jeff had on
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the Clippers had when he said when he sat out,
he took the hat off and just set it on
the table. Right, So now the Clippers had it sitting
on the table. So we're sitting there, bro that mind
you you gotta understand in my mind, right even though
they're saying all of this middle ground, is that, like, Bro,
I felt I had did what I had done what
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I've done in college over the two years average nineteen
and ten both years. Now, the second year didn't look
the same this telling you didn't look the same as
the first year, because clearly I was national freshman year,
was conference player. I want all these with like they
it was like okay, we they know, like this boy
crazy right here right, so not ain't not about to
(27:08):
do the same thing that it's not about to you
know what I'm saying, I'm about to play against doubles
and triples and all this sex and reality. I should
have left. But whatever. So when I get to even
before that, after a thought, the Claire and I go
to the workouts, I'm seeing these people I'm doing what
I'm doing what I do. So I'm like cool, I'm
like cool, I feel good. They are working. I'm calling
Jeff like man, yeah, and I'm like many now, like
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you know what I'm saying, then, it's like when we
get to the draft, bro, draft day, you hear a
name at the name getting called. So for me, where
were your where was your expectation of the highest you
could have gone? Man, I'm thinking I thought for sure
the Celtics was gonna take me at one of them
picks they had. I can't remember exactly what picks they
had in that draft, but they had, like I want
to say, it was almost like back to back picks.
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So they had more. They had some two picks. It
was like three different teams. I felt I could go too,
but I thought for sure. My thing was always set
on being a lot of repick. You know what I'm saying.
That was something for me, like like the first round
was for sure for me, that wasn't a you know
what I'm saying to me, I knew I had earned it.
I knew I was for sure that that wasn't a question.
I knew that I deserved really top ten, that was
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what that was where I felt I belonged who the
other like small forwards in your competition, you remember, man,
there was a lot of guys. You had Mike Millo,
you had Damar Johnson, you had Damar Johnson. You had
Desmond Mason, you had Morris Peterson, you had he Do Blue,
you had uh yeah, Mope is probably the only one
(28:36):
who didn't get taken before me. Everybody else got taken
before me. And so you're sitting here looking bro like Corney,
Alexander got taken from sitting here looking like bro, all
of these names. And I'm talking about some of these dudes.
I didn't literally got the lace up with other dudes
I saw in conference, playing in other places, and this
I'm just sitting here, like so you know the competitive
in Chicago, they're sitting there. I got the cam cord,
(29:00):
but it's bubbling. But then it was weird because I
had to do a balancing that because while I was
getting steamed and I was becoming like angry, right like
when I look around my table, bro, my sister was
starting to cry. My pops was uneasy, like what's going on? Man?
Like why they ain't like who he looking at? Like
he's started like now my pops don't really know basketball.
(29:22):
He's just like, why they ain't calling my son yet?
Like you know what saying? That's what he war on.
So now they concerned they know me they know me,
So now I gotta keep like I had to keep
a happy face on and I'm playing I'm I'm playing
a role, but I'm I'm over here pissed. So it's
a pitch, keep going, pitts, keep going. So then when
they got like like I'm gonna say they got like
(29:44):
the sixteen or something, when they when they finally like
when my agent got the about the yeah this, and
then you know, the cameras come certain the table. So
now it's like it's like, you know what I'm saying,
I was playing photo, so the camera before you get picked,
the cameras are already there. They come cert the table
like literally right before you get picked, and like they
come in the area and you kind of like, okay,
(30:05):
like what I'm saying. When we both declared for the draft,
right the Miles moved to Chicago. We got an apartment downtown.
We worked out the entire predraft living together. You wouldn't
deep miles stayed together for the draft. We lived together
before the entire predraft. We moved to Chicago, got an
apartment in the city downtown. We worked out three two
(30:27):
times a day. We had Tim gro visit trainer. We
had Chip England. Chip England was the famous shooting coach
there was. I think I don't know, I think he's
an okay, see now, but he was with the Spurs forever.
He helped out with he rebuilt Battier and Grand Hills
shots and then you know, he were in Nonfest. We
be for shooting the d n TG so whole whole time.
(30:50):
You know, sometimes we would fly to so we had
a couple of workouts together. But you know, like he
would go, I would go. We would come back talk
about what's going on, and we'd all be like, man,
I had to be crazy, even though it wasn't really realistic,
Like but we always said, be crazy. We get to
play for the same team, we get drafted back, same teaple.
He was like, the way we're set up, he knew
he was top five. I wanted to be top ten.
It didn't make sense. I'm like, you don't even realistic.
(31:10):
So but like when that happened, bro, like when I
got you know what I'm saying, that was like the
biggest relief right there, Like first day calling your name
and then it's like okay, cool, like I'm over here
with black. And then earlier in that draft they had
picked they had the Clippers had three picks, so d
was the first pick. The tenth pick they picked Keion Dooling.
I know k d s and some thirteen years old
(31:31):
we met playing Hey you, and we didn't be in
the Adida's camp. We had played against each other, Hey
you our team senior year, we played each other in
the Colakota Shootout and um in St. Louis on the
national stage ranked high schools. Played like we know each
other from that standpoint, then before we went to college,
me and Kian made we played on the gold Middle
USA team. The bay Hound coach me, Kian, Michael Ray Bobby.
(31:53):
So I know k cool. Like I'm about to walk
into my rookie year with two dudes that I really know,
and this was the kicker though I already got Kian
and d MOUs right. Swear to you as I'm as
I'm making my way from the table where they call
your name, you put on the hat, you hugging your
family in five and then I let back for me
(32:14):
making it from the table to the walkway. As I'm
walking the rimp to get up to the stage to
shake David Stern's hand, They're announcing the trade. The trade
is we trade the Clippers trade. Who did they trade?
I forget who the Clippers traded, but they got back
Derek Strong and Corey mcghetty. And I say, I'm like,
(32:36):
I said, this is crazy. I'm like, so now my mind,
I'm like, I got d MOUs Corey, who I've known.
I've known Corey mcghetty's from six in sixth grade. First
game we'll played each other with Church League. Sixth grade,
I played against Corty and was he was he buffing
the sixth grade six four already chisel sixth grade? Sixth
grade already chisen, already on his way to being Corey
(32:58):
simple free spa on fifty mcghetti. You know what I'm saying,
Like whetic climbs, jumping the snares quickly brings it into
the front exclusive and so for me it was like,
it was like that was crazy. So as soon as
we get like I thought, I lead the stage and
do I do the shaking their hand to the quick interview,
and I'm just like, it's spending. When I get in
the back to do the whole circauit the first person
(33:21):
I see it's d Mass He running up like gee,
it's about to be on. It's crazy, like we out
of here, and it's like that was the only that
that saved the whole night for me. That made because
like all of that together it was like I can't lose,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I know people
like d Steve he was getting drafted to the Jazz
and hell when he drafted and he still malone and
(33:44):
stopped him was still dudes like that old Like it
was like, Bro, you could have got sent to a
way different situation, Like whatever you're about to go through
and experience, you're about to do it with some dudes
just down with you and they all experiencing you're about
the experience it together for the first time. So I
had comfort in that, like man, I got I got
my partners. Then it was like even what was there?
(34:06):
Like l O was a young dude who I had
met l with Adida's camp before. I didn't know him,
but like he was he was the same age as me,
literally twenty years old, and so he's another young dude.
This all we all starting this out. So I felt
confident in that. Now the difference was like we was
the only team ever liked that. At this point, there
was that had the quarter. Five six dudes that was
(34:28):
like all under twenty and then one like you know,
we had an eighteen year old, four twenty year olds
and a twenty one year old and that was like
Eldon brand Lamar Olden Court, mcghetty, me, Darius Males and
Keian Duland. And it was like you look around the NBA.
That happened nowhere. And for those who don't know, now
it's common in the NBA. You could be a lot
(34:50):
where you could be a top I picked back then
and not play. You could be a top come over
the bench, not played. Developed Those old geez ran the NBA.
It's a whole different NBA now else. Like you said, no, seriously,
we've never seen anything like that at that time. Yeah,
that's what was crazy. I mean, do you think about it,
Like Jeff Weldman, right, he's the general, he's the president
(35:10):
of everything here in Orlando right now, he was our
like assistant general manager. They drafted us in that team, right,
And I was, you know, I worked for the imagining.
I was talking to him one day, this is about
two years ago when he first kind of got to Orlando,
and he was like, what was so crazy about our
Clippers teams is that you just said it the whole
core unit. Everybody was on the first or second year
(35:31):
in a rookie contract. We could have erased you, like,
if you're being technical, we could have. We could have
had Shack and Kobe at Max and now they wouldn't
have came to a clip, but like we could have
when he got any other superstars and offered them to
mat like day, that's why nobody wanted to go to
the clip because they didn't pay anybody. It was it
was a laughable thought to even poach that idea to
(35:53):
go get a Max player to go with these young guys,
Like no, no, never, no chances. Let's let me break
down what these things where I know we can support
you any foundations thing. For one, Knuckleheads podcast shot a
Knucklehead we know that. Uh NBA Hooper Vision shot at
NBA Hooper Vision. Uh new era, the stuff you're doing
(36:14):
with New Era? Uh listen, Clipper Vision Okay, the team
where it started to come back and do a Clipper
vision on top of Hooper Vision with the NBA. You
can do a Clipper vision with the Clippers. Um where else, Man,
where can people find you a compete to people support you? Man?
Geet give us that run down man broadcast part of
the broadcast team with the Magic Man Dante marketelling my
(36:35):
main man, send me up, throwing lives all day, making
my job as easy as possible. So you know, I'm
just having fun man, To be real with you, I mean,
like I'll tell you all the time round on the pide,
we get to be kids in the Candy story, interviewing
the guys that we either idolized when we grew up
with a you know, idolizing when we played, and now
idolizing while we're not playing and watching these guys now.
(36:56):
So for me, man, it's just like it's it's literally
doing something that we would do regardless. You know what
I'm saying, Like when we sit and we're hanging out,
we watch every game. We watched lead Pass every night.
I called d or call you call anybody Corey or
any one of my teammates, Like you you watching games
if you're not calling games, like we really love basketball.
(37:17):
So you know what I'm saying that it don't matter
whether it's w n B A, whether it's women's college,
whether it's men's college, whether it's NBA, whether it's G League,
whether it was the Big Three, whether it's whatever. Like
when they play the overseas games with the with the when,
but now your kid, I'm watching that. I just love
to watch basketball, Like when my boy d Wright when
it played in China, I was watching his links and
(37:39):
doing that and the see games like you know what
I'm saying, Like I'm I love hoop bro. So to
be able to have a job that this all based
on watching and enjoying basketball and then giving my thoughts
or my takes on it and stuff like that because
I played the game and play, you know, at the
highest level. So it's it's just like it's it's it's
a kid of the Kenny Store. Man. Can't believe like
(38:01):
you could have told me at twelve years old, Like
in my letter to my younger self, I could have
never told myself to like, yo, after you who you're
gonna be you know what I'm saying, being paid to
talk about basketball and really like the kicking and like
you know what I'm saying, You're gonna have a podcast
with your best friend since six seven eighth grade. Then
(38:22):
you're gonna be able to do a show with on
the NBA on the NBA League Pass platform with with
your pros, d Write and Nate rob who really like
your bros. You like these your little bros in the league,
and you get to do this with them and all
of these different things. I get to be on Clipper
Vision with Corey mcgetti, who I knew since sixth grade,
or Coatino, who we won a championship within the Big Three.
(38:44):
So it's just like all of these things, just like
things could be a lot harder, Bro, And I'm I'm
super super grateful and appreciative for for what I have
going on. And then not to mention it, half the
bulk of everything I do is right here at the crib,
right here, like like to walk out the door and
then my kids right there. I ain't taking time away
from them and being gone and traveling and so it's
(39:07):
just man for me, I'm just it's a huge blessing
and I'm extremely appreciative and thankful for it. Bro. They're serious,
but my brother, it was a blessing having you on
the show. We appreciate you, man. You dropped some serious
gyms today. Will have to do it again soon man,
and I appreciate your breakdown. Man and like those listening
to go check out what Q is doing. Appreciate you, Bro,
(39:28):
you already know it, Bro. Appreciate you triple ate in
the building. Wow. I have to thank you guys for
listening to NBA Rookie Life with Ryan Hollins. I couldnot
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Hey, this is Ryan Hollins and you are listening to
NB a rookie like man, And I'm gonna let you know, man,
this is one of my funniest episodes on the show Man.
I sat down with my guy Cure Rich and on
the run out here Tom Richards in one Landfa Chard
And for those who don't know, Man, keep me and
q Rich actually go back. We have an intriguing relationship. Man.
(00:26):
It all started off. I was a young guy. I
was at u C l A at the time Q
was in the league, and I remember these are one
of my first experiences going into the gym, not just
any gym, playing in l A, the mecca of all gems.
With all of the current NBA players. You had two
three courts full of NBA stars going. I mean, Shaq
(00:48):
will pop in, uh Baron Davis, Prime, Baron Davis, Paul Pierce,
who had all these guys, Sean Mary and Joe Johnson.
You had a gym full of guys, Ricky Davis, these
guys in their prime, you know, number all stars would
come in and I remember this one time I go
in the gym CUsing and they keep in mind, Hugh
Rich is a a l a legend. I tried to
(01:11):
legend in for three for the cue man. Keep that
in mind, all right. I knew him from his Clipper
days and click, Hugh Rich has a bit of a
reputation of a man. Don't mess with q Rich, all right,
don't mess with it. That's not the guy. You don't
want to pick an argument with that guy. And my
first time in this gym, q Rich is holding his
(01:33):
own he's doing his thing, and he's going head up
with Paul Pierce, and he and Paul Pierce proceed to
get into it, and it got very, very loud. And
not only this is old school basketball. I missed this
basketball where guys played and competed and nothing got crazy,
nobody fought, but the level of competition that spurred into
(01:54):
the gym. We were all stopping our game from our
court to look over on that court and going, oh
my goodness, Paul All he's going at it with que
and Paul is a bad man. He's an all start
at the time, Cute Rich is a monster, and we're like, man,
we don't know if if Paul wants a piece of
this one man. We love Paul, this is our guy.
We don't know if he wants a piece of this.
But this ended up being a heavy weight about so
(02:15):
needless to say, but I knew Paul because Paul would
come to gym real tim. I didn't know Q. But
I was like, Man, I don't fear nobody. I might
have a little bit of fear. I might be scared
of this dude right here. This dude is nuts. You
didn't want no piece of que Ricy from Chicago. You'll
know what he's capable up bad. He's in l a
and he's letting the whole gym have it. So you know,
I know Q. I kind of see him, don't interact
(02:36):
with him. I'm scared of cute you know. So years
later go by, As a matter of fact, his whole
NBA career goes by. My whole NBA career goes by.
We are at the Big Three, And as we're sitting
there at the Big Three, I'm walking and um, I'm
seeing a lot of my my former guys man at
the Big Three. That's what's beautiful about that Big Three experience.
(02:56):
And I've running a cute rich And when I'm wanting
to cute rich man, I'm a little nervous man. Because
he got the reputation. We bring it up and we
started talking and I go, man, man, I was scared
of you dog, you like you like. It was like
Mike Tyson is pride walking around. He was like a
pit bull off the leach Man nobody. Hey, you gotta cute.
You got it all right, you know. And we started talking. Man.
I was like, man, this guy is cool. Was the
(03:17):
other side of the pillow. Man, this is a good
dude right here. And we chopped it up, man, And
you know, we definitely had a mutual respect for him.
I was with him, and I was like, man, this
guy's a whole lot nicer man, a whole lot of friendlier,
didn't I thought, Because I saw him in I saw
him in war mode. I saw Chicago que. That's what
we like to call. I saw Chicago que. I saw
war mode. And then q Rich came along as this time,
(03:38):
I'm getting into broadcasting and q Rich. Q was actually
coming out of People don't know he worked um in
the front office for the Detroit Pistons. He did an
excellent job there, and people don't know that about cute.
So I am working for the Clippers. I'm doing like
a pre and post working for the team and doing
my broadcasting thing, and Q comes in. And when Q
(03:59):
comes into the game, because he's gonna do something for
his freedom post, he's just kind of wandering around the
Meetia room and I'm like, how they got q rich
just meandering around the rule Man, this is crazy. He's
got this suiting tire all because he's gonna he's gonna
come on the show. He's gonna do a segment with us, man,
And he was just started. I guess he decided to
kind of flirt with broadcasting. You'll try this out, you know.
(04:21):
And um, I remember just sitting down and telling them like, hey, man,
the food is over here. We're gonna go here. You're
gonna come meet up here and follow me. You with
me back, because I'm like, man, this dude is a
legend right here, especially you know, with the Clippers in
the l A and we're just sitting there and we're
chopping it up and we're talking. Man. And for those
who don't know, for us former players that go out
into the media world, there's no template, you know, to
(04:44):
do it. And if you weren't NBA All Star whatever,
they just treat you. You You just somebody else on the
other side. So we're here off and we're talking. This
is before Knuckleheads, before any of that was kind of
out and happening. And Q does a segment there and
everything works out, and we keep in touch and we connect,
and you know, that relationship is growing. And I was
approached about a show that was coming out through Turner Sports,
(05:07):
UM and Yahoo connected and they were gonna have you know,
kind of breaking down the NBA. You fly out to
Atlanta and I had locked in to do the show
with NBA TV. I was doing ESPN at time of
doing Fox. I was just just any and everywhere at
the moment, and within the show you kind of paired
off in partners. I think Gary Payton was a part
(05:27):
of it, if I'm not mistaken, but Kenya Martin may
have been a part of it. Vincent Goodwill, rise gold
on what a a lot of people there, And at
the last second we look up, I don't have a partner.
They're calling Q Rich. So the next thing you know,
me and Q Rinch was just gotten into broadcasting, had
partnered up on this show. It called about to be
(05:48):
a turn of Sports. So we fly out to Atlanta
and we do the show man, and our relationship continue
to build. Man, we became not just friends with brothers
because every single day we're kicking it, we're talking in
b a but man, me and a dude, we were
spending a lot of time together, and I think to
see somebody that has a love for their family, who
(06:10):
is real behind the scenes, who's organic, who treats everybody
the same, whether the you're the janitor in the arena,
you're the owner of the whole building. Q Quentin Richards
is gonna treat you the exact same. Man. So this
guy has been my brother from day one. So for
me to have him on NBA Rookie Life and having
to see behim the chance of being an l a kid,
to see him as a rookie and all this come
full circle, man, and sit down with him. I'm telling
(06:32):
you right now we are in store for an amazing,
amazing episode. After the break, we're talking with Q rich
about rookie news from this week and the rising Stars
player pool in this week's Hottest Highlights. How is everybody doing?
(06:56):
We want to welcome you into NBA Rookie Life with
Brian how islands Man and listen, this is a very
special episode. This ain't my homie, this ain't my dog.
This is my brother here right now. Listen. He is
an NBA three point champion eight many of those, the
National Freshman of the Year, Conference USA Player of the Year,
two time first Team All Conference USA, and Mickey Deed's
(07:18):
Mickey D's All American Man. None other than heads have
knuckle heads. Old man, my dog. Quitza Richard said, Que,
what's up with your boy? Hey, Man, appreciate you having me, Bro,
appreciate you having nah Man first to appreciate you for
coming through. Man. Now, q we want to do something
fun with you. We know your great analysts and we
want you to break down a little play man our guys.
(07:41):
Harry Easton had a sequence last night and we got
a battery in this pact. Boy he got has a
crazy motor. Yeah, he got a crazy motor. Let's see now,
you man, I know you do a great job with
the magic. I'm I'm a rockets guy. Okay, forgive me,
so I gotta bring you come on show with some love.
We didn't apolo few times now on this you gotta
(08:01):
rock with it. Yeah, I want you to to break down
this place from Tar Easton Man, this is one of
the most grindingness, gritty, hustling places we've seen. Man running
this clip and tell me what you seek you all right,
he's playing jobs, getty switched out. Oh get a good block.
That's athletic, just just being in the right place. Oh
(08:24):
say gonna oh effort, effort, Bro, He's like one on three,
one on four, Bro, this is this is this right here,
just tells you rebounding and it's all about warning and
one that batter than the other person and just effort. Okay,
(08:49):
see missed it again Like I've always been lead that
like Ryan, you know me, y'all love dudes, gonna go
that extra amount of just play. He has a motor.
This dude is gonna play hard regardless. You can put
him in, you could bring call him up to the
part he wanted them dudes. Bro, it could be you
(09:12):
need you got nine, you need one. He's gonna be
coming from the store something. He got his gear on here,
come out there, and he about to play hard as ever.
You know what I'm saying about to get you about
thirteen fourteen boys, But that play right there, that was
just I wanted batter than any of y'all in the
blue shirts, and I could prove and he did and
ended up with an and one. Like how many total
rebounds and you get on that whole player, how many
(09:32):
he get credited for? I think he got at least
four or five on the possession. He had twelve offensive rebounds,
so he's up there. I think he tried to come
with Hakim Elijah. He had twelve offensive rebounds. And listen,
my man just got the news that you know, we'll
we'll see if he makes it into the Rookie Challenge
or not. But he got the news that he wasn't
in and Q, I know you love that. This is
(09:53):
how he responds. You know a lot of dudes soap.
This is how he responded. Listen, this is always the
right sponsor. Come out and go, Craig. I don't care
if it's whatever you're getting snubbed for. Always take it
out on the court. Man. Don't don't do no sucking
stuff talking about who did and hating on nobody because
they ain't do it to you. They ain't the voters
(10:13):
and all that. Man, come out and who let your
game speak for itself. You ain't gotta take nobody off
that list. To be able to say that you belong,
you ain't gotta say take this person off and just
just show that you belong. Young fella, all y'all that
I like, don't talk about nobody else. Just go out
there and do your thing. And when you do your thing,
it's gonna show up and it's gonna shine enough. I
want to ask you, man, you do a good job
(10:34):
breaking down the league. You know you work with the
Orlando Magic. Do a great job there also, man um,
is there anybody from this Rising Stars Challenge that you're
looking out for? Anybody's surprised you? What are you looking for?
And you got you got your guy Polo Jail and
during in there a j Griffin, Jane and Ivy our
guy Walker Kessler who killed it and you interview you
actually interviewed a lot of these guys for the draft.
(10:54):
Shout out your New Era by the way, Keethan Murray
and junem Hard Jabart Smith Jr. That's my guy where
a partner New Era partners you know, shout out you
know this so high Jeremy so Hugh, Mr Rodman himself
and Jaylen Williams. Anybody's surprised you on that list. I
don't want to say surprised. I can say who who
who the guys that excite me, man, like all those
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guys excite me and I like them the well, Actually,
I will say the surprise to me was so so
hungham one jaws, the double team that leaks so hand open,
click maker pay coming underneath, how he is nice like I,
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I didn't know, like you know, somebody dying in here,
So I didn't know if he was a gimmick or whatever.
I didn't pay I've seen him at Baylor, but I
didn't pay close attention to him at all like that,
but I had to. I had a call about two
or three of the games in the row. I had
an NBA Hooper Vision game, then the Clippers game back
to back, and I was just like, yo, buddy is
a hybrid defender. He's got a multiple the fix the
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positions and not only that, like offensively, he gotta he gotta,
he got a little to box with him. He could
do some stuff. Was like, yo, he is nice hyde
motor Like I said, pop got a nice when I
want to see what he turns. So I will say
he was a surprise for me, but uh, everybody know
the rookie of her Polo man stuff that Carol Hello
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the back up home and was putting on and show
Paolo that bad boy down here in Orlando. I get
to see way too often that man. He listened, He
got all of it. He got everything he can he can.
And the thing that's most impressive about him at sixteen,
like because he'll legit six teen, is that his his handle,
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his handle. He could go get a bucket on his own.
You could put him out there and don't run nothing,
and he gonna go get a bucket. And like when
I say individual one on one game, like he giving
people the business his pull up mid range game way
one with you than he is way years ahead of
them to him being a rookie, and like he hitting
it on good defensive player because he bigger than them.
And then just like how that ball handing ability and
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be able to do what he is and then he
he gets the line, bro, Like that's what lets you
know he's a he's a bucket. When you know guys
that could get to the free throw line. He's had
games with thirteen fourteen free throws. He averages at least
seven or six or eight or something. Like he's one
of the He's got to be like the top bookie
and free throw shooting and attempts at least and then
he shoots free throws well, shoots at a high percentage.
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But who else do I like? Man out there, Ivy
k oh No, that's Jay Navy. I like a lot
of Detroit But I'm gonna tell you probably probably been
in him here. Boy, he definitely gonna be first if
it won for polo, he might be a Rookie of
the Year for real, that boy co I like him,
I like, I like everything, but he got the size, athleticism,
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his shock gonna keep getting better. You know, he's shooting
threes right now, but it's gonna get ways better as
he you know, spend more time in the league. But
it Santa Clara's Jalen Williams just saw him last night.
Half listen, bro, listen bro. I got he wanted the kids.
I got to interview him at the at the draft
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shoutout that he had to he had the Dion Sanders
who uh little cross ring dangling boy had a flat
Gucci suit on the whole suits Guchi. I see young
fella new money. But listen, gas nice we got the
crazy like seven four or seven five wingspan, and he
out there nice. He like he could. I feel like
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he could. He could initiate offense. But they got obviously
they got guards in shade and and um giddy. But
to me, that boy could play one through three and
then you know, some four of you wanted them to
because out here big guard, this gifted. That's why, Okay,
see sneaky for the future. That's why they're sneaky for
the future. They got a lot of big They got
big and that got wings that, like you said, initiate offense.
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They got three folk guys you can run it with.
Jalen Williams is gonna be nice. Bro. I feel like
he's gonna have a bright, bright future. Kid is tough.
I didn't. I didn't got to see them play a
lot between you know, doing the Magic Games, Hooper Vision
and Bolivish Lie. I got to see this kid. I'm impressed.
Coming up next, you Richard sharing some of his favorite
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rookie moments. Stay toned man, you we gotta get into it. Man,
you were the eighteen pick in the two thousand draft. Man.
Good evening and welcome to the two thousand NBA Draft
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at the Target Center in Minneapolis, Minnesota. What was that like?
And take me through draft day? What was draft day like? Like?
Who are you with? Were you a green room guy?
Who who went to the draft with you? Who? Who
was around? Talk me through that experience, man? And it
wasn't like, Man, I'm I'm about to be number one
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in this bad boy? Were you? Man? I came out
to draft with a chip on my shoulder. Dog you
know me, you always go my head. I had a
chip on my shoulder. But take me through that day?
Who were you with? Who'd you walk in with? Feelings? Emotions? Man?
Were you cocky? Q? Back then? When you chill? Q? What? What?
What's going on? Man? Let me get the story. So,
first of all, fortunately I was blessed enough to be
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a green room guy. Did go to the actual draft.
I drafted back then, this was before it was just
in New York City every year I used to move around,
so this particularly years in Minneapolis, Minnesota at the Target Center.
So I went out there. My family took my step mom, pop, sister, bros.
You know, then a couple of my uh you know,
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my best friends then my best friends to this day.
Now did you pay for anybody at NBA paid for that. No, no, no,
that's you know, we're footing that bill. Fortunately, I had
great representation, so I wasn't sing like I didn't have
already got you know, shout out to Jeff Wexler had
already secured me and deep miles Upper Day. You know,
card deal, nice nice card deals that were you know,
sustained us over the summer and um, you know had
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us situated. So you know, we had a couple of
deals in place, so we were able to take care
of our family. We had you know, everybody come down
the mass had his mom and his his fam come down,
so you know, we're down there. We were in were
in Minnesota. We're about to kick it, have a good time.
But for me, you know, I wasn't expected to be
the you know, the top pick or anything like that.
For me, it was it was definitely a lot more
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murky for than than the minds. He was expected to
go on the top three or four pigs, four short
no letters, you know really literally no later than three
or four whatever. But for me, I was in that
I was in that range where it's like you could
go as high as like ten or you can go
as low as like twenty two. So hold on, bro,
you and d Miles knew each other even before the draft,
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before all this, I mean played you together Chicago Warrior
with Illinois Warriors. So you know, she demuses from East St. Louis.
So he was one of the guys was downstayed our
AU coach Larry Butler. You know, he was always looking
around trying to add to our team, and he met
him at one of his spotlight events and then you
know he next to you know, he joined, He brought
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him down to join the team. So you know, East St.
Louis from Chicago's like three three hours or more. And
so when he would come to play on the team
and be he would stayed to stay at my house,
you know, because it wasn't like he was going back
before we had a weekend tournament. So like, yeah, men,
I met Darius and he's in eighth grade. I was
a sophomore junior. Hold on man who was on this team.
Were crewed up, bro. I mean, it depends on which year,
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but over the years, you know, uh, Bobby Simmons, Corey mcgetty,
Frank Williams, uh, you know, we we was we was
like that. And then my boy, you know that our
main court was the guys that you know really did
out that are my best friends, like you know, Cordell Henry,
Dennis Gates, Rid Thompson, Brian Ward who's now coach. Dennis
Gates is now coaching in college, and um, you know,
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we were really the court of the team. But we added,
you know, added in some track of different guys over
the years. We yeah, wars there will be Larry Butler
headed down. For a long time. We was, we was,
we was all letting in the shop. But yeah, so
we we That's when me and d Males man. Man,
That's that was the crazy thing about us, you know,
developing this relationship and you know, I'll go to college
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and I'm still coming back to the program and seeing
them play at different places. And then you know, he
goes and when he when his time, I go to
my sophomore year. I could have left my freshman year,
but I come back and that turned out to be
Darius the senior year. And the course of that senior year. Man,
like I remember, he came to DePaul to visit, you know, school,
and I'm just hosting. I'm sitting here looking at him like, bro,
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no way, Like all right, we got his little high
hundred and fifty bucks for the weekend, what we're about
to do, But no way, bro, like you out of you.
I'm telling him about it. At this point, he's at
east Side High and he's St. Louis and man, he's
posting quadruple doubles Queen tuble doubles and like he's going
crazy out there. And he was like he was a
one man show, playing like every position and the same
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thing you saw when you got to the league. Imagine
just putting that in high school. He was the six
nine stupid crazy wings being crossing people, dunking on people,
blocking shots on the steel three on one, thank you,
Darius Files and Miles getting it back on the turnover
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and Miles scores again, Miles and Miles again, Darius, Miles
just doing everything. So it was like when I told him,
I was like, Bro, you got no no like. And
I was like, I'm gonna introduce you to the agents
that I'm meeting with now. And that was how we
ended up going with the same agent. We both had,
Jeff Webs for our entire career. Still I got now
to this day, that's like family. You know what I'm saying.
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It ain't forget agent and all of that's like family
for for me. You know what I'm saying. Jeff is
like like a big brother slash like big brother figured
it then then helped us and helped me to so
much game, Bro. But back to the draft, Jeff is
dead with a David. At the time, we were SFAX.
So David Folks was like the big guy at the company,
and you know, he had all the other agents and
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Jeff was one of the guys, but he was Jeff
was always our our agent. You know. David Folks was
never he was you know, I guess, the big big
guy the company. But our personal guy was always Jeff.
So that's you know, that's that's that's my man. So
were there and the whole time, you know, I'm knowing.
The other thing that was crazy for me. I worked
out for the Celtics had like two or three picks.
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I don't know how many picks they had, but they
had some picks, multiple are back to back picks in
that draft for something. And they worked out for them
three times, Bro, leading up to the Jai. You know,
he had to work outs. I worked out for him
three different times. We get to the night before the draft.
They're trying to have me come have him do like
a meeting and do another workout with them Patino and
Jim O'Brien, and all I'm like, man, not was this
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was this Anton Walker, Derek Derek Derrick Anderson who was
Celtics was this, Well yeah, no, d A was never that.
That was Kentucky. But yeah, uh he was Twine Cybertwine
is definitely that. I'm a young boy, you know they
had Yeah, Cybertlin was the man at this point Slides
five get to walk at Hill check Nick. But it
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still was like, no, we're not going to do another
workout the night before, so you know, we get that. Man.
But the but, the whole, the whole, everything was dope. Bro,
you wake up, you'd be like you stupid, dumb nervous
because it's it's like finally it's now it's today, and
it's like, you know, you got your little suit, your clothes.
You gotta do a couple of things, but then it's
time to like put on your suit, go get on.
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You gotta get on. Know, we had to get on
the bus. They're gonna bust Us all over together and
you know, you get on the bus all other draft picks, draftees,
they s you black and who else? Who's the other
big names of the draft? Nah, the big name was
Kmart Kmark was the number one overall picks. With the
first pick in the two thousand NBA draft, the New
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Jersey Nets select Kenyan Martin from the university and since
but he he had just went crazy, was National Player
of the Year and Cincinnati his senior year and that
was when he had hurt his leg in a tournament,
but he still was the overall consensus. He was to
dude him. You had strow Mouth Swift, who was a
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high he was like three or something. And Mike Miller
was the number five pick in one Rookie of the
Year that year. Uh, Mike Red was actually second round
and he was like, you know, one of the one
of the biggest names out of our draft. But then
you had you had Young Mall. You had Maul Crawford
who only played like ten games at Michigan. Mall was
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in it. Mall was was a Mall was like at
the time he was an anomaly because he had only
played ten games or something. Like that in college at
Michigan and then he left school and so they had
it was like, you know, all of that, we don't know,
and we don't have a lot of tape. So he
actually was one of the guys that went to the
NBA combine in Chicago and played you already know everybody,
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and so he went from kind of like in the
middle to the unknown ground to like he ended up
getting picked either seven or eight, I can't remember him
and Chris Man got traded. So whichever pick Jamal was,
Chris Man, did you play in Chicago or no? No, no,
for those who don't know. For pre draft, a lot
of guys go there to prove themselves and if you
proved yourself and your stock was high enough, you didn't
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go play. So Q didn't play. I super random. I
skipped it too, bro, I kid you not. I had
to work. I skipped it too. It worked out for me,
but I skipped it to a lot of guys don't play.
I wasn't even the top pick, but it still wasn't
like I felt, you know, my Jeff and all of
us felt that I had done enough not to have
to participate in that. Even though I wasn't a top
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pick overall, like that situation. But so we get that, man,
we get that you're kicking it with everybody, and it's
kind of like, you know, then you gotta go do
take pictures and do different things, and you know all
of that stuff. So all of that stuff is cool. Man,
then you you actually gotta go sit at the table.
You sit down at your m you see where everybody's sitting.
There was dope. Man. The mouse table was literally right
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next to man, Like, we got pictures to this day
on T shirts and stuff and me holding the camp
cord and slapping five with him while he right here.
This is before it starts. And so man, it's like
the dope thing for you know, the mouse came up
the board quick. I can't think he was four? Was
he three or four? He was one of the next
KG bro next KG right, So but we knew that
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was happening, and it was like boom were you know,
we all celebrated me and him dapthed of shook up.
You know what I'm saying. He'd go up there shakes
David Stern's hand in the two thousand in the NBA draft,
the Los Angeles Clippers selected Darius Miles of East St.
Louis High School. I remember when that happened because I
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remember because this was the crazy part about it. The
Clippers drafted him right, so then you know all of
that happened, and um, you know when that's happening like
the way we did it, because they knew that the
man is gonna be one of the earliest picks on
my agent. Jeff, he's sitting with you know, he sitting
with him at the time when he first get picked. Right,
So he gets picked, they passed out all the hats
and everything, everybody plumbing hats and they do all of
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that right. So then he moves on and they take
him behind the scenes. You know, you got as soon
as you get drafted, you go hit that little that
little circuit where you're taking pictures, doing interviews, calling people,
blah blah blah. Your team call you back to all
of that. So then he as he does that, Jeff
gets up and come to sit with me now, because
now I'm gonna be his guy. Is taking next now.
The whole time when he comes over, Jeff had on
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the Clippers had when he said when he sat out,
he took the hat off and just set it on
the table. Right, So now the Clippers had it sitting
on the table. So we're sitting there, bro that mind
you you gotta understand in my mind, right even though
they're saying all of this middle ground, is that, like, Bro,
I felt I had did what I had done what
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I've done in college over the two years average nineteen
and ten both years. Now, the second year didn't look
the same this telling you didn't look the same as
the first year, because clearly I was national freshman year,
was conference player. I want all these with like they
it was like okay, we they know, like this boy
crazy right here right, so not ain't not about to
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do the same thing that it's not about to you
know what I'm saying, I'm about to play against doubles
and triples and all this sex and reality. I should
have left. But whatever. So when I get to even
before that, after a thought, the Claire and I go
to the workouts, I'm seeing these people I'm doing what
I'm doing what I do. So I'm like cool, I'm
like cool, I feel good. They are working. I'm calling
Jeff like man, yeah, and I'm like many now, like
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you know what I'm saying, then, it's like when we
get to the draft, bro, draft day, you hear a
name at the name getting called. So for me, where
were your where was your expectation of the highest you
could have gone? Man, I'm thinking I thought for sure
the Celtics was gonna take me at one of them
picks they had. I can't remember exactly what picks they
had in that draft, but they had, like I want
to say, it was almost like back to back picks.
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So they had more. They had some two picks. It
was like three different teams. I felt I could go too,
but I thought for sure. My thing was always set
on being a lot of repick. You know what I'm saying.
That was something for me, like like the first round
was for sure for me, that wasn't a you know
what I'm saying to me, I knew I had earned it.
I knew I was for sure that that wasn't a question.
I knew that I deserved really top ten, that was
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what that was where I felt I belonged who the
other like small forwards in your competition, you remember, man,
there was a lot of guys. You had Mike Millo,
you had Damar Johnson, you had Damar Johnson. You had
Desmond Mason, you had Morris Peterson, you had he Do Blue,
you had uh yeah, Mope is probably the only one
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who didn't get taken before me. Everybody else got taken
before me. And so you're sitting here looking bro like Corney,
Alexander got taken from sitting here looking like bro, all
of these names. And I'm talking about some of these dudes.
I didn't literally got the lace up with other dudes
I saw in conference, playing in other places, and this
I'm just sitting here, like so you know the competitive
in Chicago, they're sitting there. I got the cam cord,
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but it's bubbling. But then it was weird because I
had to do a balancing that because while I was
getting steamed and I was becoming like angry, right like
when I look around my table, bro, my sister was
starting to cry. My pops was uneasy, like what's going on? Man?
Like why they ain't like who he looking at? Like
he's started like now my pops don't really know basketball.
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He's just like, why they ain't calling my son yet?
Like you know what saying? That's what he war on.
So now they concerned they know me they know me,
So now I gotta keep like I had to keep
a happy face on and I'm playing I'm I'm playing
a role, but I'm I'm over here pissed. So it's
a pitch, keep going, pitts, keep going. So then when
they got like like I'm gonna say they got like
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the sixteen or something, when they when they finally like
when my agent got the about the yeah this, and
then you know, the cameras come certain the table. So
now it's like it's like, you know what I'm saying,
I was playing photo, so the camera before you get picked,
the cameras are already there. They come cert the table
like literally right before you get picked, and like they
come in the area and you kind of like, okay,
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like what I'm saying. When we both declared for the draft,
right the Miles moved to Chicago. We got an apartment downtown.
We worked out the entire predraft living together. You wouldn't
deep miles stayed together for the draft. We lived together
before the entire predraft. We moved to Chicago, got an
apartment in the city downtown. We worked out three two
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times a day. We had Tim gro visit trainer. We
had Chip England. Chip England was the famous shooting coach
there was. I think I don't know, I think he's
an okay, see now, but he was with the Spurs forever.
He helped out with he rebuilt Battier and Grand Hills
shots and then you know, he were in Nonfest. We
be for shooting the d n TG so whole whole time.
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You know, sometimes we would fly to so we had
a couple of workouts together. But you know, like he
would go, I would go. We would come back talk
about what's going on, and we'd all be like, man,
I had to be crazy, even though it wasn't really realistic,
Like but we always said, be crazy. We get to
play for the same team, we get drafted back, same teaple.
He was like, the way we're set up, he knew
he was top five. I wanted to be top ten.
It didn't make sense. I'm like, you don't even realistic.
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So but like when that happened, bro, like when I
got you know what I'm saying, that was like the
biggest relief right there, Like first day calling your name
and then it's like okay, cool, like I'm over here
with black. And then earlier in that draft they had
picked they had the Clippers had three picks, so d
was the first pick. The tenth pick they picked Keion Dooling.
I know k d s and some thirteen years old
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we met playing Hey you, and we didn't be in
the Adida's camp. We had played against each other, Hey
you our team senior year, we played each other in
the Colakota Shootout and um in St. Louis on the
national stage ranked high schools. Played like we know each
other from that standpoint, then before we went to college,
me and Kian made we played on the gold Middle
USA team. The bay Hound coach me, Kian, Michael Ray Bobby.
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So I know k cool. Like I'm about to walk
into my rookie year with two dudes that I really know,
and this was the kicker though I already got Kian
and d MOUs right. Swear to you as I'm as
I'm making my way from the table where they call
your name, you put on the hat, you hugging your
family in five and then I let back for me
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making it from the table to the walkway. As I'm
walking the rimp to get up to the stage to
shake David Stern's hand, They're announcing the trade. The trade
is we trade the Clippers trade. Who did they trade?
I forget who the Clippers traded, but they got back
Derek Strong and Corey mcghetty. And I say, I'm like,
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I said, this is crazy. I'm like, so now my mind,
I'm like, I got d MOUs Corey, who I've known.
I've known Corey mcghetty's from six in sixth grade. First
game we'll played each other with Church League. Sixth grade,
I played against Corty and was he was he buffing
the sixth grade six four already chisel sixth grade? Sixth
grade already chisen, already on his way to being Corey
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simple free spa on fifty mcghetti. You know what I'm saying,
Like whetic climbs, jumping the snares quickly brings it into
the front exclusive and so for me it was like,
it was like that was crazy. So as soon as
we get like I thought, I lead the stage and
do I do the shaking their hand to the quick interview,
and I'm just like, it's spending. When I get in
the back to do the whole circauit the first person
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I see it's d Mass He running up like gee,
it's about to be on. It's crazy, like we out
of here, and it's like that was the only that
that saved the whole night for me. That made because
like all of that together it was like I can't lose,
Like you know what I'm saying, Like I know people
like d Steve he was getting drafted to the Jazz
and hell when he drafted and he still malone and
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stopped him was still dudes like that old Like it
was like, Bro, you could have got sent to a
way different situation, Like whatever you're about to go through
and experience, you're about to do it with some dudes
just down with you and they all experiencing you're about
the experience it together for the first time. So I
had comfort in that, like man, I got I got
my partners. Then it was like even what was there?
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Like l O was a young dude who I had
met l with Adida's camp before. I didn't know him,
but like he was he was the same age as me,
literally twenty years old, and so he's another young dude.
This all we all starting this out. So I felt
confident in that. Now the difference was like we was
the only team ever liked that. At this point, there
was that had the quarter. Five six dudes that was
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like all under twenty and then one like you know,
we had an eighteen year old, four twenty year olds
and a twenty one year old and that was like
Eldon brand Lamar Olden Court, mcghetty, me, Darius Males and
Keian Duland. And it was like you look around the NBA.
That happened nowhere. And for those who don't know, now
it's common in the NBA. You could be a lot
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where you could be a top I picked back then
and not play. You could be a top come over
the bench, not played. Developed Those old geez ran the NBA.
It's a whole different NBA now else. Like you said, no, seriously,
we've never seen anything like that at that time. Yeah,
that's what was crazy. I mean, do you think about it,
Like Jeff Weldman, right, he's the general, he's the president
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of everything here in Orlando right now, he was our
like assistant general manager. They drafted us in that team, right,
And I was, you know, I worked for the imagining.
I was talking to him one day, this is about
two years ago when he first kind of got to Orlando,
and he was like, what was so crazy about our
Clippers teams is that you just said it the whole
core unit. Everybody was on the first or second year
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in a rookie contract. We could have erased you, like,
if you're being technical, we could have. We could have
had Shack and Kobe at Max and now they wouldn't
have came to a clip, but like we could have
when he got any other superstars and offered them to
mat like day, that's why nobody wanted to go to
the clip because they didn't pay anybody. It was it
was a laughable thought to even poach that idea to
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go get a Max player to go with these young guys,
Like no, no, never, no chances. Let's let me break
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where can people find you a compete to people support you? Man?
Geet give us that run down man broadcast part of
the broadcast team with the Magic Man Dante marketelling my
(36:35):
main man, send me up, throwing lives all day, making
my job as easy as possible. So you know, I'm
just having fun man, To be real with you, I mean,
like I'll tell you all the time round on the pide,
we get to be kids in the Candy story, interviewing
the guys that we either idolized when we grew up
with a you know, idolizing when we played, and now
idolizing while we're not playing and watching these guys now.
(36:56):
So for me, man, it's just like it's it's literally
doing something that we would do regardless. You know what
I'm saying, Like when we sit and we're hanging out,
we watch every game. We watched lead Pass every night.
I called d or call you call anybody Corey or
any one of my teammates, Like you you watching games
if you're not calling games, like we really love basketball.
(37:17):
So you know what I'm saying that it don't matter
whether it's w n B A, whether it's women's college,
whether it's men's college, whether it's NBA, whether it's G League,
whether it was the Big Three, whether it's whatever. Like
when they play the overseas games with the with the when,
but now your kid, I'm watching that. I just love
to watch basketball, Like when my boy d Wright when
it played in China, I was watching his links and
(37:39):
doing that and the see games like you know what
I'm saying, Like I'm I love hoop bro. So to
be able to have a job that this all based
on watching and enjoying basketball and then giving my thoughts
or my takes on it and stuff like that because
I played the game and play, you know, at the
highest level. So it's it's just like it's it's it's
a kid of the Kenny Store. Man. Can't believe like
(38:01):
you could have told me at twelve years old, Like
in my letter to my younger self, I could have
never told myself to like, yo, after you who you're
gonna be you know what I'm saying, being paid to
talk about basketball and really like the kicking and like
you know what I'm saying, You're gonna have a podcast
with your best friend since six seven eighth grade. Then
(38:22):
you're gonna be able to do a show with on
the NBA on the NBA League Pass platform with with
your pros, d Write and Nate rob who really like
your bros. You like these your little bros in the league,
and you get to do this with them and all
of these different things. I get to be on Clipper
Vision with Corey mcgetti, who I knew since sixth grade,
or Coatino, who we won a championship within the Big Three.
(38:44):
So it's just like all of these things, just like
things could be a lot harder, Bro, And I'm I'm
super super grateful and appreciative for for what I have
going on. And then not to mention it, half the
bulk of everything I do is right here at the crib,
right here, like like to walk out the door and
then my kids right there. I ain't taking time away
from them and being gone and traveling and so it's
(39:07):
just man for me, I'm just it's a huge blessing
and I'm extremely appreciative and thankful for it. Bro. They're serious,
but my brother, it was a blessing having you on
the show. We appreciate you, man. You dropped some serious
gyms today. Will have to do it again soon man,
and I appreciate your breakdown. Man and like those listening
to go check out what Q is doing. Appreciate you, Bro,
(39:28):
you already know it, Bro. Appreciate you triple ate in
the building. Wow. I have to thank you guys for
listening to NBA Rookie Life with Ryan Hollins. I couldnot
I'm repeated, I cannot do this without you. Do not
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