Sacred Lessons in Motion: Skating, Identity & Belonging with Steve Corona

In this episode of Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits down with Steve Corona, Chicano skater, storyteller, and community voice whose skating blends culture, pride, and healing. From his viral “Pati-Charro” video at Mariachi Plaza to managing a skate shop in Lincoln Heights, Steve has become a cultural bridge between skateboarding and Chicano identity. Together, they explore how skating can be more than sport, it can be sanctuary, therapy, and a way to reclaim culture on your own terms. With honesty and humility, Steve reminds us that falling isn’t failure, it’s part of the process, both on the board and in life. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
What are the cycles fathers passed down that son so
left to heal? What if being a man was about
holding it all together but learning how to let go.
This is a space where men speak truth and find
the power to heal and transform. I'm Mike Dela Rocha.
Welcome to Sacred Lessons. Skateboarding is story, culture community. As

(00:26):
a young person, skateboarding was my safe haven, a bridge
to a world that felt safer than the one I
was raised in. Welcome to Sacred Lessons. I'm Mike del Rocha,
and today's guess is a dear friend Steve Corona. Steve
is one of my favorite skaters who's rewriting what Chicano
identity looks like, improving that subcultures like skateboarding and punk

(00:49):
music can be sacred spaces for healing. What makes Steve's
story so remarkable isn't just the way he skates. It's
the way he's transformed his struggles into strength, using his
lived experience to rise as one of the most exciting
skateboarders in the country today. Yes, oh, you're welcome. I

(01:15):
met every single syllable word from the intro. I appreciate that,
and uh we did that one a couple of times
because I was getting so passionate and emotional about it
because when I see you, I'm like, man, I want
to be Steve.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
When I girl, I give ingredients no.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
But on the real thank you so much. Uh. Creative
brought us together a few years ago. Our rehearsal space
for the band is down the street and the meeting
one was like, hey, man, you gotta meet this guy
Steve and this is pre Chad fucking skateboarder. Yeah, and
to see I just wanted you to know from my perspective,

(01:57):
from that moment to where you are now, it was
like leaps and bounds and we had a lot of
really intimate conversations and it's just been in honor of
a lifetime to watch you just blossom and excel. And
I'm serious, like you were my favorite Chicano skater. I
appreciate it and probably representing the East Side that.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
Somebody got to do it.

Speaker 1 (02:23):
So for those that don't know who Steve Corona is,
how do you introduce your being to the world.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
I mean you did that pretty well in that intro.
That was amazing. As far as like as a individual,
I'd say, you know, first generation has no fault at
where he was born. So I am Mexican flu I
don't think I have Yeah, just jerking out that man,
Just proud of who I am. Dude. You know, I

(02:54):
didn't ask to be here. I didn't ask to be live.
I'm just taking it all in as it's coming. The
you know, life is my movie and I'm the main
actor and I'm just the red carpet is unraveling as
I'm going.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
But I'm very thankful to just be alive.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Mic. You know, someone with a.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Big heart, i'd say he is a.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Doesn't ever lose because even when you take some losses
in life, you gain perspective and that for me is
very important. I'm still gaining him. You know, I'm still winning.
I'm still trying. I'm still doing what I do, and
I just love I love skateboarding, but skateboarding has been
my passion since a young kid. So a young skater

(03:39):
from Los Angeles. You know, better time make it kind
of no podcast.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
He's auld most.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Fun, you know, and that's just that's just it's in
my blood to him, and everything that you see now
is just like it was in on its way, Like
you said, you know, I flourished into the person I am.
Thank God, and think my parents too, you know, they
they raised me.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
And no one's perfect. My Dad's not perfect.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I'm not perfect, nor do I want to be, because
perfect is a little too it's too perfect, you know.
You know you don't want to be that. You want
to have some kind of story. You know, it's like
a good pair of denim. You know, you gotta have
some rich You want to be too, too nice, but.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Without Hey, you know, everybody's different. And I just appreciate
being here. So thank you, Mike.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Well, I want to in my spiritual you said something
that I want to have you reconsider. You said I
didn't choose to be here, right, Being the father of
two children and just diving in deep deeper into my
spiritual practice, I've come to my sense of understanding that

(04:47):
children choose their parents when they come from the spirit world,
and they come because they know what gifts or lessons
that we as the older people need to understand. And
that's why children know which and it's depressed to the
parents because we haven't learned the lesson yet. So since
I think, but you chose your two parents, never really

(05:10):
asked you too much like, who are the parents that
raise the man that I now know as Steve Corona?
Who are they? Where they come from? Tell me.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
That's great, you know, but I remember if I picked them,
But I'm glad I picked them, you know, if that
was that's how it's going to be.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
But no, my my dad is from a.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
J Sorry, I'm just thinking he's from Amol and he
came in the drunk of a car as far as
I know, and he ended up being on this side
at a young age when high school over here in Anaheim,
and my mom was kind of she was staying here

(05:57):
by my Aulito from hal and I come from what
my mom's side, we come from like kind of uneducated
family where they're in a ranto. My grandpa was working
at like fourteen. He didn't really know how to read
or write, just work. Maybe you know that's where that's
where I come in. You know, that's that's kind of
where it is with me. You know, I'm all about

(06:19):
just getting it done. And I think that kind of
just trickled on from him. But also coming back to
my mom, she uh, she raised twins, my twin Tias,
at a young age, so she didn't really get to
be the little girl that she needed to be at
that time. So but she they got accidentally sent over here.

(06:42):
It was supposed to be another sister, but they sent
them on accident, and so that kind of that was
my mom's like role was to take care of the twins. Yeah,
So they ended up meeting at right there on Travis
and Mission. My mom and dad at some point in

(07:02):
their lives, I don't know, maybe in the eighties around
there very music oriented we are. I'm assuming that's where
it comes from. You know, that dives bar and that vibe.
I'm sure that at that time was just way better
and different around that time. So that's where they pretty
much met. And every time I passed that spot, I

(07:26):
still passed by it. And if I'm open time, like,
hey man, and I imagine my parents never married there.
Oh you know what I'm you know, it just nothing
would have never synchronized the way it did, Like I
would not be here, which is why I say, like
I didn't really choose it, you know, And I get
what you're saying. On the spiritual side, absolutely, shoot, I

(07:46):
would have never chosen anybody else if that's how it
really is, you know. But and I mean in a
good way, Like I didn't choose to be here. I
just I'm I'm appreciative about it, you know, for everything, but.

Speaker 3 (07:58):
All the time. Mean, yeah, it's a beautiful.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Thing to just just realize things, you know, when you
when you actually when you know, when you start to
actually thing someone us don't even realize we're awake right now,
you know. They wake up and check Instagram and don't
even realize that they're you know, they're not feeling good.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
They probably need to. Hell, we all do.

Speaker 3 (08:27):
We're gonna, we're gonna do crazy stuff.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well, let me ask you. I was sharing earlier that
growing up, I was one of the few Chicano's in
a predominant white environment, and my first love was actually music.
My first love was punk music because I felt a
connection to the misfits and those that were the outcasts.
And then I found a skateboard and I was in

(08:50):
a Steve Corona. I can maybe Ali maybe, And then
I then it was surfing and it was the water.
And I would say to me, the most intimate thing
to do outside of sex is surfing for me because
it brings me closer to God and ron who you
mean outside that's the only dude that I go surfing with,

(09:12):
and you know, it's a sacred fucking relationship. But skating
for me was that like I could just throw it
all away. How how did skating find you or you
find skating? And what was that like time? Like I
would just kind of go a little bit, and I'm

(09:36):
a breach baby. Basically, I was a breach baby. I
am a breech baby.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Like I was born with my feet first, and my
mom had me naturally like that.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
And the only reason why I'm saying this is because
it's going to trickle along with the story. I just
always was fascinated with my feet. My first love with soccer,
classic Mexican kids.

Speaker 3 (09:54):
You know.

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Who was your team?

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Thought that I'm actually good friends with.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
As the.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
With he invited me to a game, which was another story,
but but I didn't get in.

Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah, I mean she was those but my dad's team.
I gotta I gotta go with my dad.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Like with that being said, when I was a kid,
soccer was my first love. I don't know why I
was fascinated with my feet. I've been kind of telling
the story a little bit more, and it's funny that
I'm saying it now.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I was always like kind of fascinating with my feed.

Speaker 1 (10:37):
Like how do you how do how? How are they moving?

Speaker 2 (10:40):
Like I was just kind of making a connection between
my you know as a kid, especially like first first
times like realizing the things and that was cool.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
Like I was like, dang, I like I like this,
you know, like running.

Speaker 2 (10:52):
I don't know how they're doing it, but they're doing
it like they're moving, They're.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Moving, And.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
That ended up just kind of me with that fascination.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Like my mom, I think skateboards were always around my
cousin time. When my my brothers had one, I busted
my lip writing one on the knee, you know when
you ride it on your knee. I busted my lip
and I started seeing That's when, like I think Tony
Hawk was coming out with the games and I started
seeing more of it and I wanted to like do it,

(11:25):
but I didn't know what they were doing. I didn't
know the difference between switch. You know, it's kind of
like being ambidextrious righting what you're left and right for
those that don't know. But I mean, I was lucky
enough that I have I have both my parents and
my mom. I wanted some bands, Like I just wanted
some skater shoes because I'm sure I was playing Tony

(11:46):
Hawk at the time. That was when it was like
the early nineties, late two thousands or early two thousands,
And she bought me a pair of Jeff Rowley's and
that that shoe came with the movie Transford, with the
skate video in Bloom and Dud.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Once I watched that, that was it.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Like that was it because I seen what they were
doing with their feet and it was like an art.
It is an artist to take away the skateboard and
watch other moving. It's kind of like martial arts, you know.
But yeah, once I seen what they were doing and
I was like, dude, this is wild, Like I want
to do that. But I didn't know what they were doing.

(12:28):
I just knew I wanted to try it. Once I
did it, dude, that was it. Like it just it
was cool because I wasn't playing basketball. It was cool
because I wasn't playing soccer. It wasn't a team sports.
The individual sport and being a middle child that kind
of just led me to my own route and still

(12:49):
to this day, I'm very thankful to do it.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I've gone through it with it.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
It's like a toxic relationship, except this one always gives.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Always got sense, dude, even when it's bad.

Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean, I just broke my first bone a month ago,
and so now I'm making go shout out so I
look get over emotional and.

Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:12):
So it just from that, from then to now, it makes.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Me realize, like dang.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
I mean, you know, if you love something or someone,
go after it and go get it.

Speaker 1 (13:23):
So this is probably wow. Old redan f started writing.

Speaker 3 (13:27):
I think I was like like fourth.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Fifth grade, maybe tenkay ten, nine ten around there.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
So I've been fifteen twenty years.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
Like if you're in an in and out, like I've
gone surgery here on my.

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Face lastrated cheek, I left it for like a year
or two.

Speaker 1 (13:45):
That was maybe like seven years ago. Yeah, like seven
years ago due to an injury.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
That's when you have to kind of gain perspective, is
what I mean. So right now you're gaining your recovery.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Yeah, and so this perspective you're gaining, what do you
What are some of the lessons I've come.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Up, getting close to my dad, getting close to.

Speaker 2 (14:04):
My mom, just in general, sitting back and counting my
blessings because you know, you practice your practices and your
sharp when you're sharp, And for me, it humbled me
because I was doing what I do, but also I
thought I was sharp. That's what It just makes me

(14:25):
jump back and realize I need to get sharper, but
also be aware of what's going on, you know, because
life is coming at as fast and you know, we
process shit maybe a year later or a month later
or a week later, whatever that looks like. And right now,
for me, that's what I'm gaining from. It's just being

(14:45):
able to communicate with my parents more like I think
it's sick because I had to just stay at home
with them, and you know, injury secks because it breaks
you down. But it also, like I said, you don't
lose because you're gaining.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
At the same time.

Speaker 2 (15:00):
And now I feel like when I come back, it's
just going to be a ton of energy that's just
going to be directed that way, you know.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
And how's your relationship with your parents in right now? Oh?

Speaker 2 (15:14):
Better than when I was a kid, you know, like
way better now because why why do you think? Well,
just because I'm learning to actually listen and not feel
like a child, even though I still do.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
I mean, I feel like a kid. Dude. I'm still skateboarding,
you know, I still That's what keeps me young.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
But also like just being able to talk to my
dad more and he even sees it, and just being
able to talk to my dad because you know, as
a Mexican in a Mexican household, you don't really you don't.
These days, these kids do. They they're more open and
they're a little bit more closer to the parents or
I've seen relationships whether they're the kid and the.

Speaker 3 (15:55):
Son and dad are like, you know, really close.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
And my dad was always working king, you know, so
that was just kind of our relationship.

Speaker 1 (16:03):
I'll see him he later by.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
But now I'm like, dude, if I can call my
homies or if I can call my so called homies,
or he's I can call my dad, you know, you
should be able to you know, because something we like
to pretend that parents aren't there or it's just we
got lives too. But also that's what helped me kind
of like this injury helped me just sit back and

(16:29):
really see what's important. Who's actually there, Who's who's really there?
You see and when you're in the hospital, but who's
really there? You know, and even if it's just your
first broken bone or I mean, I'm proud of it.
Though it's sick because not that people can say they
broke their first bone at whatever age.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I am.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
So a lot of the conversations I'm helping with the
men on the show is asking two questions really at
the end of the day, when I think about it,
the first one is, do you do you and your
father tell each other that you love each other? I do? Now.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
There was always this like stigma or like there's like
this like ful gayzy of like this border.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
You know.

Speaker 2 (17:21):
I actually learned that if I mean, I've always had
it in me, we just never said it. It's funny
that we're talking about it because I had a breakthrough
that I even tell my homies now, you know.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
And if they don't say it back, that's cool, no problem.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
I said it. My work has done. You know.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
If you want to reciprocate that, you could if you don't.
In school, I know what I you know, consist of,
and there's a lot of love. Yeah, my small you know,
And that was now I do though, like every time
I see him and he'll be like, oh yeah, me.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
Too, And but I know he does.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
You know, we're just not used to saying it, especially,
I mean if he grew up on a different timeline,
you know. And but that's why God put me here,
is to be that vessel and to do that so
I can tell that to my bros.

Speaker 1 (18:10):
You know, because we didn't.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
We didn't grow up like that there.

Speaker 1 (18:13):
I know.

Speaker 3 (18:13):
I know families that grow up like that, and.

Speaker 2 (18:15):
They're like, dude, if I can love you, you know,
my sister with my brother, And I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
That's cool.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
So I started practicing that and at first felt kind
of awkward, like oh, but now dude, it's it's it's
easier said than done, because it's easy, especially when you
mean it. Of course, it's about your intention. Maybe that's
why there was a gawkiness there. It's awkwardness because they

(18:44):
want to mean it, but they didn't know how. You
know what I mean people in general, right, they want
to be very intentional, but they don't know how, right
because we're all trying to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
And let me ask you, when you first started telling
your friends, was awkward like did they how was the response?

Speaker 2 (19:02):
And now diferently no response at first from certain homies
or certain friends. I can't think at the top of
my head who or anything, but I was just like
I just started saying it more because I started seeing
how life is insanely short, right, but it is also

(19:22):
longevity if you take care of it. But but shit happens,
Like that's why I do what I do. Like I
tell my mom, let's go do this, let's.

Speaker 1 (19:30):
Go do that. I'm very like.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Impatient when it comes down and like wanting to do things,
but I also know it takes time.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
But I also know, like, dude, you can die on
the one on one on the way home.

Speaker 2 (19:40):
So like, let's go right now, let's go do Let's
listen to ourselves and to our intuition.

Speaker 3 (19:46):
That's what helps me a lot. Is then the But
it's easier.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
To say it when you like I said, when you
mean it, and like from my homies, I get it.
I get it back because I mean it and they
know that you know, so they don't have to say
it back though, but if it's cool when they do.
It doesn't mean like we're weaker or anything. I just
I mean it. And I learned it from like homies

(20:17):
that I started hanging around with that were newer than
like the friends that I had for ten years, you know,
and I was hanging out with Hominge de Liover, Maryland.
He's pro skater, and he would.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
Be like, all right, love you, bro.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Like even if because I was always on the spectrum
where it's like is it I love you or love
you? You know, and I'm like, ah, love you, it is
kind of like ah, I love you.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
It's more like even in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You know, my girlfriend tells me all I love you,
by okay, I'm okay, no no no, I said, they
see it all You're gonna tell me all of it,
the whole phrase, because you know, but I get it.

Speaker 3 (20:52):
That's also me being that.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
Is true though, because it's the ice statement.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
It's me, Oh, I love you, but yeah, you know,
and you had, oh my gohead, I told you and
then you know, ironically, I don't remember this.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
At the skate shop, I came. We were doing a
show at your skate shop, and there was a death.
There was a death of a friend, and my my
spirit was like, man, the only thing I could do
for Steve in this moment time is to be present
and to start with the I love you, and and

(21:32):
that put in perspective for me, like saying that to
my mom my brother, like I say it, but I'm
saying like I left the shop and called people, dude,
and I was like, I love it. I called hey,
you know, Alberta, Hey, I love you, Alberta. What's wrong, bro?
Like if something happened, I was like, no, Bro, I
just wanted to say I love you, you know, and

(21:54):
trying to just normalize it.

Speaker 3 (21:55):
And it's funny how that for something, dude, what what
are you?

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Okay? I just want to show you appreciation.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
But that's just that's something that I picked up too
with with learning to do that for myself, you know,
like telling myself like I love you, Steve, you know internally,
you know, not walking around like I'm crazy or whatever.
But yeah, it starts with with myself, you know, and
then they it's now it's all of us. You know,

(22:23):
she got a problem that we all got a problem.
If he can't love himself, it's because we're all not
loving each other. And but ourselves. It starts with ourselves.
So that's what I kind of started just taking in,
was more self love, and then I was able to
radiate that through myself, right, you know, and now, like

(22:45):
I said, there is no stigma there.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
If I really feel.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
That about something or someone, I can tell him. It
doesn't take It doesn't have to be a month or
a year. You don't have to know me five years
for me to tell you like, I love you, right,
because it's real.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
You know, hurt and you feel like more and more
men you know this idea of strength, uh, historically for men,
especially men from the Rancho in particular my cheese, Like,
you show your love, but you don't express your love.

(23:24):
Do you feel that's changing? Obviously you're changing that with
your own father. But how do you see those dynamics
shifting right now? It is because it's a collective. We're
all responsible.

Speaker 2 (23:35):
Like what I'm saying, you know, the more we show it,
the more men will get it.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Right. It's the same.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
It's like you know, monkeys see monkey dude, and it's cool,
fucking cool to give a fuck.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
You know, it's cool to care.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
It's just as cool it is too for me to
be like you know what, Mike, I don't want to do.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
This by Oh he's mysterious, Oh my god, on the.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Way, where do you go? Why do you like that?
But also be like you know what, Mike, thank you
for this opportunity. I love it. I love you for
actually thinking about me, for being here.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
And then that.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
Can trickle on to the next person, you know, the
next man, because there's a lot of young men.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It ain't the daughters, Yeah, them too, but it's the
young man. And I believe in chovalry. I'm still opening
doors for whoever it is, even for a guy. Doesn't
mean I'm with the opposite text. It just means like
it's respect, that's path of us, and it's has a
lot of value. But like I said, we tend to

(24:35):
forget those things. But it does trickle on because it's cool,
it's gonna, it is affecting. I might not be here
for I've always said that, like you know, it might
not be here for when the world is really good
and there's when there's really about love and when we're
all really one. But I know I contributed to it.

(24:55):
I know I did for sure, because I mean it shows, dude,
God wouldn't be giving me some of these blessings because
I'm happy with now that I'm like with nothing, and
I've been there, I've been where it's dark. I've been
where you don't want to be around anybody, and but
I appreciated that when it was there. It was hard, dude,

(25:16):
But I got out of that and I was able
to ask for help with with God. And you know
that's what I always say. If you're not happy with nothing,
you thinking to get anything, but no, no, no, But you know,
hard work does pay off. You got to just keep
working and it trickles. It shows you know, you take

(25:39):
care of yourself and then you'll be able to take
care of others obviously, right, right, But it does trickle.
It's it's it's like a disease. Love is that love
is a frequency. You can feel it or especially when
you're about it, and when you're good intended, your your
intentions are good. You know that's what love is. That's
a good intention. Frequency is is everything.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
And you know, love God, these terms, these feelings, these essence,
these energies, they are genderless, just like race. Race is
a construct. Gender is a construct. And the thing that
I've been practicing steve for myself to lean into. If

(26:27):
I really want to be loved the essence of love,
then I have to love every single person that crossed
my path and That's why the strongest men I know,
which are also the men that I want to be
physically affectionate with in front of whoever, are my trans friends.

(26:52):
Because society has such this or reaction to a person
that's the freest. Because I don't tell anyone what to where,
how to identify, how to talk, that's not in my business.
But when I run up into a person that is
just so free that they're like, I'm gonna be me,

(27:15):
even though I know I'm gonna get shitted on, fucking
you know what I mean, Like, yeah, someone would take
my life. But to me, where I'm trying to get
to a spiritual level, I'm like, bro, if I can
get to that level of strength of acceptance, that to
me is love. And that's why, like I'm running towards
my trans friends more than anyone right now, especially if

(27:38):
you're like undocumented, dark skinned trans person in America, in
the world in twenty twenty five.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
That's like being a skater in like fifteen years ago. Yeah,
I know you, I mean yeah, and it's I mean,
my sister's trying. Yeah, it's pretty fucking punk rock. I
think I think it's sick. It's just whoever you know,
but again that acceptance. We don't need validation from knowing
or in the day besides yourself and the Lord and

(28:07):
whoever it is you believe, and you know your mom
and dad as long as they love you, or your
theater a wlita, whoever took care of you and there
and even if not them, me, you know, I love
me for who I am because I guess it too,
for being a skater with it. Somebody that oh my god,
you found a gimmick. This is what you're doing now.
I'm like, nah, I'm just I dug deep, I dug

(28:29):
deep within me. And you know, it's something my Grandpa's wearing.
It's not news timeless. It's been here, it's been there.
There was probably trans that forever ago. You know, there's
been here, nothing ever really changed.

Speaker 3 (28:43):
We always they kind of the same. And that's the thing.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
The world is, The world is is it's all now, dude,
Like everything you want to go get it's there.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
Well, you know, I want to mirror something because you've
always been Steve bro There is no gimmick when I
when I knowing you, but it's just like you dug deep.
The more that you're like, you know, what who am
who am I culturally? Who am I ancestrally? Who am

(29:16):
I as a corona? Who am I as a land
based person? And of course you're bringing out the boat ay?
But bro, when you did that, I mean, you know,
I saw that video mariacci Plaza when you had like
your I think it was like the Chado outfit.

Speaker 3 (29:35):
That's that's nice.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Nice, But bro number one, you look like a fucking
badass now telling my wife like, damn, I wish I
looked like fucking Steve. But you brought a sense of pride.
It's kind of like when I see those those women
from Mexico writing the skateboards and the traditional biness. So sick,

(30:00):
oh sick.

Speaker 2 (30:00):
That's why skateboarding is beautiful though exactly, So tell me
about because to me it is it's like individual and
collective because like, you know, it's you and the board,
you and your feet, right, but you're like tribe finds tribe.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, yeah, well communities you know these days? Is community?

Speaker 1 (30:20):
Yeah? That word.

Speaker 2 (30:21):
The only reason I say like that is because I've
seen that word get stroked and like.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
But whatever.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
Uh yeah, it's just like like that's the beauty about skateboarding.

Speaker 1 (30:32):
Though.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
I had to read navigate my thoughts about it too, though,
because at one point it wasn't so accepted the way
it is now.

Speaker 3 (30:39):
It's not.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
It was a different time.

Speaker 2 (30:40):
You know, I was skating because I loved it, and
it was on the contrary, now it's so accepted that
it's it's probably for everyone, but it's not for everyone,
you know. It's just because some of us do and
have been doing it for a long time, which it
doesn't mean you can't do it. It's just different perspectives.
At the very end of the day, I'm sorry I

(31:04):
kind of got.

Speaker 1 (31:06):
Because actually plaus but also like if I'm a young
my son, I gotta I gotta let my son be
who he is. As much as I want him to
be a skater that fools on a skater, as much
as I wanted to love to be she doesn't love
the beach. And my whole lesson that he's teaching me
is I have to accept him for whatever he is. Absolutely,
But if he wanted to skate and he saw you, bro,

(31:30):
it's so beautiful because he can be his full authentic
culture self and still skating, not to confine or look
a particular way. He just has to look like himself.
You know, I got to.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
Be you, you know, and for me, yeah, I can
see all people were like, what kind of random, Like
Steve was never like that, but but what.

Speaker 1 (31:50):
Was the response? Though, I see the opposite. So if
that's how you see it, like because I felt like
that went viral.

Speaker 3 (31:56):
Down, Oh that one went insane.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah, like just because it was it was an intention,
Like my intention was set before the clip came out.
So I we the skate the new skate shop location,
Inner City Skate if you guys need boards, shout out
in the city with over my life, bread and butter,
let's go. Yeah, we were opening up the new location

(32:18):
and me and my little buddy Cardolos and kind of
eat the shout out to him because he was the
one that got me to wake up in the morning.
Let's go get it. And he specifically was the one
that was like, let's go to Mariachi And I was like,
for a w it's nomal a's a four up, four down.
But I was like, it's a four up, four down.
I was like, I used to get a four stair line.
So I was like, let's get back to it. And

(32:39):
you know, with the shop being opened up at twelve,
I had to wake up early and do my due diligence,
which is why I had to like, you know, not
party and not drink, and I do these things because
I wanted to work, and that was my work, was
just waking up. Let's go get it, let's go skate,
let's do what we have to do. Long story, short,
long story, longer. I we were opening up this the

(32:59):
new skate shop, and I was like, I wanted to
showcase what I was doing basically through the shop.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
And I knew if we sent that Fernanda song would
just slap.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
But at the time it was like it was there
was nobody doing it, or maybe you know kum YAsO
maybe better nobody did it. And I remember telling my
friend from the skate shop, like, hey, let's let's drop us.
Let's put it, and we sent a Fernanda song and
he was kind of like, I don't know, like there
was a stigma there, you know, there was there was

(33:36):
a little fugezy of boundary there.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
And I was like, come on, let's do it, and
he was like, I don't know if it will.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Slap, Like let's just put a rap song because that's
like what people know, you know, and I was like, whatever,
just do whatever, because they were gonna edit it. I
had no control at that point. I was like, just
let it go, but I knew I wanted to chant
this song with it. And once we let the video out,
we watched it and it was like a minute from
me in cars and we watched it premier at the shop,

(34:02):
and like, I was getting responses from my outfit because they.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Were like, dude, that was you and I was like, yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:08):
But it was a rap song, not shaming rap. I
just knew it wasn't going to work the way I
wanted it to. But at the very end of the day,
that was for the shop and that was for everybody,
and you know. So once I was able to take
control of my end, that's when I was like, okay,
because in the skate roles, you drop a video and
then then you can drop piece by piece or you

(34:28):
can leak.

Speaker 1 (34:29):
A little bit.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
But I didn't have that much to work right, so
I was like, let's just drop it first and then
I'll put it on my Instagram. And once I decided that,
I was like, do it the way you wanted. The
first video was me rambling Around, which is why I
threw on Ramblingman by the Steve Miller Brand and oh

(34:50):
no the Allman Brothers. Sorry wait is it man?

Speaker 1 (34:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (34:55):
And I probably even said that wrong.

Speaker 2 (34:58):
I don't even know, but yeah, anyway, I threw that
song on because I'm literally rambling around like that's the
way I seen it.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
And I was like, oh, I'm you know. Then that
one got like some love and I.

Speaker 2 (35:09):
Was like, well that's pretty crazy, like I'm literally for me,
it was nothing. I was like, dude, it's a Monday.
It was a sun Saturday morning and mariachi and I'm
just skating.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
But I'm just skating in a vest and a sombrero.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
And I've always wore a vest, and I've always wore
for doras or hats.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
It just all came into one.

Speaker 2 (35:30):
Yeah, I said the epos I posted and it was
a Monday morning, I remember, and I.

Speaker 1 (35:34):
Was like, dude, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Like people started following me, you know, just I don't know,
it's just the algorithm just picked it up because it
was something different than people were like, well that's crazy,
that's crazy. And I remember thinking like, okay, you like that.
I was just kind of responding to what the universe
was showing me, because I remember being like, oh you
like that, wait till tomorrow.

Speaker 3 (35:54):
I got a better clear, which is.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
A BLAXI went eighties switch backs from down and it's
a good clip for me. I was like, dude, I'm
gonna drop that one, but I'm gonna put it up
with a chant that song and the song is called Renas,
which is over here within us for those that don't know.
And because that's how I see in it, because I'm Mariachi,

(36:19):
the Moniti Plaza is i'mna be sent in for on
the street.

Speaker 3 (36:22):
That's one. Two.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
Me and Carlos were literally as just minding our own business,
just doing what we do, waking up early, let's skate,
let's skate, let's skate.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
I'll meet you there, all right, cool and yeah, it's
just like clicked.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
And I have like clips of that day that morning
when we went to the coffee shop and I was
wearing what I was wearing, but I literally was just like,
I like this fit. This is just I feel good
right now, look good, feel good? And you look good,
you feel good, you skate good. And I was like,
let's go try to get a clip I want to
try to back side, want ady up and switch backside.
Never done it before, I mean, I've never been at

(36:59):
this point in my life before. It's happening right now,
you know. So I was like, let's just do it
the best we can right now. No week from now,
try to do it better, or we can come back
to it and do better, be better, think better, and yeah,
like once I threw it up on that Tuesday morning,

(37:19):
it was a Tuesday morning, do that thing shot up
like it shot up and again because it was my
intention that I wanted it to. I didn't want like
millions of people to even follow me. I don't even care.
I just was like, dude, I had something that y'all
don't and this is a good skateboarding, some good skating
and a little bit of style pozaves and there's nothing

(37:43):
that you can tell me.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
It was intention, though, to be like, I want to
showcase the beauty of.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Being yeah, just being me. How I intake being coct.

Speaker 2 (37:56):
My grandpa did live on a ranch and they did
immigrate over here, my great over here, so we.

Speaker 3 (38:04):
I wouldn't have to be in a ranch. I mean,
doesn't mean.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
That I can't be you know, if I want to
live that life, I could, but I could see how
people would see me and be like, oh, he's not
even you know, but my grandpa did that, so I
can be right here skating and showing showcasing the way
I'm showcasing, you know. So I'm very thankful for him
and appreciate him. You know, better time men, It's in
my blood, dude, Like I didn't. I didn't like, I

(38:31):
never knew this was gonna happen, you know, Like I said,
it was just me being me, dug deep, and I
love it. Just gonna keep it going because that's who
I am, you know. So we are gotten those bust
But at the same time, it's it feels good, like
how you said when a kid does, they do feel proud,

(38:54):
like oh shit.

Speaker 3 (38:55):
Skateboarding isn't just for what he does.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
It's not just for little little white boys or little
black kids, or it's for everybody.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
You know, it could be and you could be you
however you want to dress.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
That's why skateboarding is the ship because it's it's punk rock,
it's crazy.

Speaker 1 (39:08):
Because it was it was created down the street from
here in Venice by chicanod's and white kids and black kids.
It was right here and it changed culture globally watching
kids skate in Japan or watching kids skate in Europe
and to know that this soil that was fun. They

(39:29):
will always be Mexico gay birth to skateboarding and it's beautiful.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
You know. We just gotta be proud of who we
are and what we're doing, even if you know, not
everybody is fortunate.

Speaker 1 (39:46):
What do your parents think?

Speaker 3 (39:48):
They they love it.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I mean they.

Speaker 2 (39:52):
They worry for sure, you know, Like when I broke
my collarbone a month ago, they were like, my dad
was like, You're gonna keep doing it? And I was like, yeah,
I have to, because it's still burning.

Speaker 3 (40:02):
I still could. I do believe in I don't believe
in age like that.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
That's why I'm like, I don't even know if people
ask me, what do you hold up to worry about it?
Like Prince, you know, like you know, I don't worry
about that.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
It's about now, you know.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
And and I'm just very thankful though that I could
still do it. All the friends that I made growing
up from that were doing it no longer really do it,
and they were the reason why I kept it going.
And I'm like dang this dude don't even skate anymore.
He was badass in high school and it's fine whatever.

Speaker 1 (40:38):
I get it.

Speaker 3 (40:38):
He had six kids now. But god damn like that
that that uh wapp into that passion?

Speaker 1 (40:45):
You know.

Speaker 3 (40:46):
I hear it a lot. I hear two God damn much, Mike's.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I'm old. I don't do that.

Speaker 3 (40:52):
I can't do it anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Hey, you limited yourself. You you You did that to you,
not me. I didn't do it. People look at me.
She can you know some people, but some people are like, dude,
I'm so happy you're still skating.

Speaker 3 (41:05):
I'm like me too.

Speaker 2 (41:06):
Bro sick is granded, most craziest sacrifice of my life
because I chose passion. I don't have six kids or
a big ice house, but I got me, and you're happy.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm fucking happy. I do have a daughter and she's amazing.
I love my life. Yeah, that daughter, so your father,
I wanted to bring it up. I wasn't sure that's good,
but life.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
So you have beautiful six year old, six year old
daughters gonna be seven in a week, seven in a
week already.

Speaker 1 (41:43):
And we have a lot that we have to do
to make sure where whatever she chooses to love, treats
her as a chivalrous person with respect, with respect. How
do we deal with this issue right now? Of you know,
I feel like there's a crisis of right now have mascularity?
Are you kidding me? And so what do your take

(42:05):
on that? And what are we doing as people?

Speaker 2 (42:10):
We gotta self reflect, bro, you know, as men, to
check your homie the same way you would check them
if if he would if he had you know, your
your panther too tight, or don't tell them what to do,
but like, you know, check them like if you see

(42:31):
I mean, do I see it all the time there's
like ten men waiting in line and the girls like
opening the door and nobody opening the goddamn door unless
they're obliged to, Like they're just they happen to be there,
you know. Ain't nobody going out of their way no more.
That's that's that's what sucks like But we again, it's
not it's not their fault, it's thou it's all our fault.
If if you didn't say nothing about homie doing something wrong.

Speaker 3 (42:52):
You know, I know they say not to.

Speaker 2 (42:54):
Tell other people how to raise their kids, but come on,
you know, we all know what's right from m seem
like they like to act you know, oh I didn't
know or whatever, But I mean.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
We gotta be we We.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Just gotta be to self self vigilant, like you know,
it's about respect, dude, and we got to be able
to call it out when it's the same way in
a relationship, like hey, I don't like the way you're
treating me right now.

Speaker 1 (43:27):
That's a whole new thing. Right now. I don't like
the way you're talking to me right now, Mike, can
you please not.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
Back in the day, we would be like man, you know,
or something crazy aboutter than man, like yeah, we have
to step back sometimes and just be like, yo, what
you did wasn't cool, bro, you know, like or if
it is not going to be an in coaching moment,
hey Mike, you know you just you know your son

(43:52):
you could have seen it this way too, you know,
from man to man, you know me, Tomie. Or if
it's like, hey, you know, I'm not feeling good, we
got to learn how to say that I don't feel good.
I didn't grow up with a therapist, my bro, we
don't believe in that. I'm Mexican and still to this day.
I'm lucky enough that I dug deep and I listened

(44:15):
to me because at the very end of the day
of therapist, I'm not They said.

Speaker 3 (44:18):
Oh, you should go live your life, Steve and do
what Steve wants to do.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
And that's what I do.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
That's why I am lucky to have that.

Speaker 1 (44:26):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (44:26):
I don't, as much as I do, believe that people
do need therapists because they don't know how to express
that or they don't know how to like maneuver through that.
I do that within me, you know, and I ask
God to help me not perfect. There are times where
I'm like thing, I think I do need someone to
talk to, But at the very end of the day,
it's me that I'm going to talk to, or a

(44:48):
good friend.

Speaker 1 (44:49):
You know.

Speaker 3 (44:50):
That's what friends, real friends are for. They're like your
therapy sessions.

Speaker 2 (44:53):
You know, this is a small therapy session, but yeah,
it'll it'll trickle on, you know. The more we do
check men and respect, though, we have to jump back
to right now because a lot of manhood is lacking
substance and it is lacking respect. The same way we

(45:16):
could open the door for someone like you see someone
with groceries.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
It should. It should.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
It's basic elementary school. Treat others how you want to
be treated. If you're desensitized in a certain way, be
aware that this person might not be desensitized in that way.
You know, hanging out with certain people might desensitize you
in a certain way. Be open, you know, be open

(45:42):
to being open, but don't be so damn open and
your brain falls out, you know what I mean? Like,
but that, man, we have to set those good examples
for men out there, and it starts from when we're
little kids, like allow them to feel.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
It's what I do. Now, that's a powerful thing to
someone to read iterate that. Allow men to feel, Yeah,
it's as basic as that, and then accept whatever they
share without shame or judgment or ridicule.

Speaker 2 (46:14):
Just allow them, yeah, or don't take it as ammo
because like in relationships that happened a love you tell,
you tell your partners so dean, and later on they
use it against you and it's like, dang, I didn't
even tell you for that. I told you because I
wanted to be open and vulnerable, And now I'm probably
never going to do that because you you messed that up.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
For me, that's so crazy, because this is a conversation
I'm having with female friends of mine. Oftentimes in my circle,
people are like, oh, I want a man that's emotionally expressive,
and I can't find one. And then when we are
because women like men because of patriarchy, we're not taught

(46:56):
how to handle it because we're all conditioned, right, So
then when we do share, I feel this way. Like
you called it, Ammo, I was literally sharing not for response,
but to actually share what I thought in the moment.
And we're also on guard because that's not common. So yeah,
do that and you manipulate it. Then I go further back.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
Yeah, it's like a sniper, rightfle dude or a sniper man.
You know, he's like he's aiming at something to make
sure nothing's happening, but he's expressing himself at the same time.
And if you shoot, obviously he's gonna like step a
few yards back and do whatever he has to do
to to not get shot at. But he still wants
to express you know. And yeah, especially I mean.

Speaker 3 (47:41):
Just so they probably women probably have it. They just
it's not the person they want.

Speaker 2 (47:45):
Yeah, it ain't step Corona that's crying to me, and
so dang, I don't well, you know that it's my cousin.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
That's a man, you know, But I get it, like, well,
you know.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
I'm exercising things in my mind in real time in
our therapy session right now, what I just shared with
you is something that's personal to me. But then when
I really think about it right now, the response from
my wife, from my person, actually, why would I react?

(48:16):
Like if I shared this how I feel and then
they use it as ammo, that's saying more about them
than me, So why would I retreat?

Speaker 2 (48:23):
Right?

Speaker 1 (48:23):
You see what I'm saying. So like, in real time,
I'm thinking like, oh, damn, well that was my ego
that was bruised because I wanted a non response or
I wanted a loving response, or I wanted response that I.

Speaker 3 (48:32):
Didn't get exactly. And then you're like, ah.

Speaker 1 (48:35):
But that's all my ego. So then I just got
to keep doing it. And it's kind of like what's
hard for me that I'm doing right now? Steve is
trying to publicly cry more and that's hard. But if
I want other men to not die prematurely because we're
holding in our tears, both physically or figuratively. Then I

(48:58):
got a model that kind of like saying with your friends,
like I love you, so the more you say than
the reason. But like this is all stuff like because
it's never about the other person. It's always about the self.
And so like I'm thanking you because I'm realizing, like, yeah,
well if I didn't get the response, Okay, my egos bruise, Okay,
I broke my collar, roone cool, get it healed and

(49:20):
keep going. Yeah you know.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
Yeah, And then also too, like I mean it's only
normal for us to have those expectations. Yeah, you know,
sometimes I wish them. A girl come up to me
and be like, hey, you know you look like you
need a hub. I'm all right for I know.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
You do want that. I know we all do.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
We all want somebody, you know, to to love and
hold us and read our guide in their minds. But
we can't. You know they can't. But what you could
do is showcase what you want in this world and
how you want to be and how you want people
to be with you. It just sucks, like I said,
some of the times, it's not the person you want,

(49:59):
you know, So that's what is could be mind blowing
sometimes like, dang, it blows my mind that I can
go to Mexico and hang out with random people and
they're accepting me, and they're like Steve like thinnis through
gosh kind and I have homies that are ten fifteen
years deep and they don't even environmentate dinner anymore. That's
where I'm like, wait, why you know, I'm just it's okay,

(50:24):
you know, maybe yeah, because I'm new at this side
and on this side of town, it's like, oh, it's
just Steve. You know, if you walk down Broadway, you'll
see all kinds of people. Steve is just Steve, and
I am just Steve. But I'm just saying, like, it's
crazy how you can go somewhere and you feel that appreciation.

Speaker 1 (50:40):
You do you think that's a cultural thing because it's
a different culture. Make absolutely ego.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
It's a lot of egos. A lot of eagles here,
a lot of eagles.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
You're more Mexican than me because you're wearing somebody.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
But how is that possible?

Speaker 2 (50:53):
How Like you're more of a skater than me because
because I dedicate myself more. Yeah, but it's not like, dude,
we're all still breathing the same error.

Speaker 1 (51:05):
There's no possible way somebody.

Speaker 3 (51:06):
Could be better than You're here as a label.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
Yeah maybe oh CEO versus a server, but it doesn't matter.
You should respect that person, Munda. I'll respect the bum
the same way I would the CEO of some kind.
It doesn't matter they don't, you know, And I'm going
to showcase that though, like how you said, through my homies,
like I can publicly cry Mike like I do not care.

(51:32):
I in the moment, I have felt like, ah, I'm
less than a manner now in front of my homies,
But it doesn't make me that.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
I'm like dude.

Speaker 2 (51:42):
If anything, I'm better off now because I let go
of what I needed to let go of. I gained
perspective and I'm all good. It doesn't make me less
of a man. I didn't lose any of my manhood
right now. I just gained, you know. So it's it's fine.
But that's where you know, basic elementary be the change
you want see in the world. Like I said, I
might not be here for one in the world changes,

(52:04):
but I know I know for a fact that I
put some work into it. Even if that was just like, hey,
start opening the doors for women gout on as a man,
you know, and man doesn't matter. Just do it because
it's the cool thing to do, you know, And it
doesn't hurt you. You even with love. You give it

(52:24):
out so damn much you have. Sometimes you do need
to go home and cry it out and regenerate. But
when it comes from a natural place, it's going to
keep coming. It doesn't stop. It doesn't stop because it's natural.
It's like the mother earth. You know, it'll keep giving
as long as you take care of it, you know.
But we're not forever and we're not immortal. So do

(52:47):
everything you can right now, you know. Go Go and
call your grandma and tell her you love her if
you still got her. Tell your homies that you love them,
if you still got them. Hug your homies. Do that shit.
Because that's the theme for me, Like don't wait until
I'm gone and give me no damn flowers. But I
can't with them where thought like I want to be gone,

(53:08):
which is cool.

Speaker 3 (53:09):
I get it.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
That's a tradition, but it's also like, let's make it
a tradition over to appreciate us now, you know, let's
go eat you know what. I did have a meeting
but you know what, fuck that meeting. I want to
hang out with you because you prove to me right
now that you want to give me your time. And
time is money in this system right now, you know,
and it's we value that more than we do. People

(53:31):
materialize things more than they care about thrown homie, you know,
like or their own brothers.

Speaker 3 (53:36):
Own sister. We just got to reorganize and revamp, baby,
you know.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
But we can do it all together. But while I
can't ask you one more question before going to break,
eleven years from now, God willing, God willing, we are alive,
some breathing. Your daughter's eighteen? Wow, what does she say
about her? My dad's cool.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
He went and did all this so I can have
this the way I can say. My grandfather did this,
and my dad sacrificed his own life for work to
be where he's at. You know, I'm just happy to
I want her to be able to be like down.
My dad knows people, he did things, and he's a
good man.

Speaker 3 (54:25):
Despite all the imperfections that he went through.

Speaker 2 (54:29):
I just want her to have an oasis, whether that
being in Mexico or a couple of them, you know,
So if anybody wants to help me do that.

Speaker 1 (54:35):
I more than appreciate it.

Speaker 2 (54:37):
But man, you know, I just want her to be proud,
proud of being a Ghana and.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Proud of me.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
But at the same time, I just want her to
just not have to struggle like we all do. But
obviously I want her to have her struggles, but I
want her to be strong, you know, feed him and
so I live on the solid and who she is,
and I have no doubts even though we all do,
even when we think we got it all figured out.

Speaker 3 (55:04):
I just want her to know that her dad loves
her very.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
Much and that I won't always be here. But I
wanted to know that I'm fucking here. You know, I
was here and I did what I had to do
so she can do what she has and that's all

(55:30):
we gotta do, do what we gotta do, so we
could all do what we gotta do. You know, that's
okay whatever. Somebody's cutting onion the goddamn.

Speaker 1 (55:41):
Thank you for shoting. Yeah, thank you for modeling. Absolutely
thanking for me. Such an amazing father, an amazing friend,
do my best, amazing representative of the culture, my favorite skateboarder,
he told just amazing bro making me cry on the show. Exactly,

(56:05):
they are right, we'll play some exactly. Well, thank you,
thank you. So first, want to just take a deep breath,
Phil lighter, better, better, but thank you for allowing the

(56:27):
moment to happen the way it did. Yeah, just thank
you for being thank you. All right. So this is
it's called the Sacred Five and uh, it's five questions
I ask you answer in one word or one question,
and essentially it's our way for like listeners with people

(56:48):
watching to take a practical thing home. So, first question,
name three things that make you feel safe, connected and
whole deep safe connected and the whole.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Tacos look like that me, my mom my, mom's food, family, skateboarding,
and and uh, perspective. I mean, there's obviously a lot

(57:28):
more that can go into that question, but those three
like family, skateboarding, perspective, you know, and appreciation everything.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
Okay, what song, book or prayer brings you back to yourself?

Speaker 2 (57:43):
Songbook or prayer? I don't read tow any books, Mike,
I'm not even gonna lie to yourself. Book right now
would be the worst thing. But the song that brings
me back to me, like any of any of the
that I play for my my, my mother videos that
I do.

Speaker 1 (58:03):
You know all that.

Speaker 2 (58:05):
In general, that brings me back to being a kid,
Ramona Charlie. That just brings me back to a specific
song that there's so many that I relate to. That's
why you know that they're all beautiful. If I'm gonna

(58:26):
go with like an American tongue would be like Angel
from Montgomery and Mexican song would probably be like I
really love with Ramon.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Because of what he says.

Speaker 2 (58:48):
That always brings me back to, like, okay, just giving
me pride, you know, more pride than I already got.

Speaker 3 (58:55):
It's cool. It just put overall all that music.

Speaker 1 (59:00):
Shout out to.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
Your ahead of baby. Oh, let's it going right there?
Scratch everything, keep ahead all right.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
What is one daily ritual or practice that grounds you, uh,
just waking up and thanking the Lord for letting me
be here again, because we wake up and I don't
even know it, you know, sometimes we just were on.

Speaker 2 (59:32):
Auto tune or or autopilot, sorry, and it just you
just go and you gotta sometimes wake up and I
didn't even have to be here right now.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
Gratitude every morning, Gratitude every morning, so what's one small
action that people that people could take this week on
their own healing journey.

Speaker 3 (59:56):
Listen to yourself. Listen to yourself.

Speaker 2 (59:59):
Li send to yourself, Like you want to go to
the beach because you haven't been there in a while,
Go do that. You want to go see your grandma
because you missed you, go do that. Call off for work,
do it like if work is what it is for you,
go do that, but put in one hundred and fifty percent.

(01:00:21):
You know, whatever it is you're gonna love somebody today,
you better love them the way you did it better
than that. Listen to yourself, dude.

Speaker 1 (01:00:31):
And the last one, share a one line blessing or
quote that inspires you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
He William Tregar.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
Look, Indy, I'll sendor mypresto one day, I'll go up
and I'm gonna turn in with the man upstairs. Let
me borrow. And that's the Ramona La song that just
reminds me that, like it just pumps me up, dude,

(01:01:06):
like cause I don't know and I'm gonna be good,
you know. So right now it's a time to go
and get it. You know, it is already eat that
as now is now so that that's just a small
quote from a song, you know, but you know that's
that's probably that's just the first thing that popped up
in my head. But listen to yourself, dude, you know

(01:01:30):
appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
Well, thank you so much, Steve for grain to come on.
I always wrap up by sharing three things that really
touched and moved me personally. The first thing is just
how you model the power of just being unapologetically proud
of who you are and where you come from. And

(01:01:52):
the more that you could do that and not try
to fit into someone else's box, the more that blessings
will come your way. That's the first thing that's like
clear and uh, and I always really admire about you.
The second thing, which is something that maybe because I'm
getting older, but you really you really named it like

(01:02:15):
it's not age, it's passion. So if you used to
skate in high school but then it got six kids
in a mortgage, that doesn't mean you can't skate no more.
You should probably go and skate. You should probably go
to skate because that would probably be your therapy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
It's gonna help.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
It's gonna help because it made you you at one point.

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
So it was follow that fire.

Speaker 2 (01:02:35):
Yeah, it's something you that consists of you, you know,
and that's what you should follow. What consists in you,
you know, those consistencies insiety, whether that be in love, basketball, football, soccer,
any sport.

Speaker 1 (01:02:53):
Just let it out.

Speaker 2 (01:02:54):
Don't let it out on people, let it out on
what you love and passion.

Speaker 1 (01:02:59):
You know, find that though, find that so passion not age.
And the last thing that's speaking loud and clear is
we are walking future ancestors. So when I ask you
about your daughter, eleven years is really like a decade,

(01:03:21):
and we both were able to crack. It's because we
know how close life and death are together. Thinlang.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
We're walking on a tight rope, thin then cracked ice.

Speaker 1 (01:03:36):
So therefore be all that you can be. Listen to
your voice, absolutely be who you are, and you know,
just thank you for being that for me, for so
many others. Thank you for modeling to your parents, to
your friends, to your daughter, your girlfriend with love FLEs

(01:04:00):
like and not waiting for tomorrow or waiting for the
next hour, but doing it in the present moment it now.

Speaker 3 (01:04:07):
So I love you, and I thank you, thank you,
and I don't have a girlfriend.

Speaker 2 (01:04:14):
But but real quick that that yeah, That's why I
said I want my daughter to be proud because with tradition,
that's why I do it. Like my grandpa Bro, I've
seen him do this in a different ways. For me,
it's like, I'm gonna be your grandpa one there. Hey,
God give me life, let me live. I don't be
that grandpa, you know. I want to I am that.

(01:04:35):
I want to be that theo. Hey, my the was
the one that's you know how I grew up. You
gave me five bucks like that goes a long way,
you know, be that guy. I want to be that guy.
I am that guy.

Speaker 1 (01:04:44):
You are that guy. So thank you for joining us.

Speaker 3 (01:04:47):
Brother, Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
I appreciate you always always you know it.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Check it Ketto Motto and Guy Brandon.

Speaker 1 (01:04:57):
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