May 25, 2023 • 31 mins
Discover the stunning downfall of the leader of religious organization "La Luz del Mundo," Naasón Joaquín García.
Join us as we explore the shocking events that rocked the religious organization "La Luz del Mundo" when its leader, Naasón Joaquín García, celebrated his 50th birthday at Mexico City's prestigious cultural center, only to be arrested weeks later on charges of heinous crimes.
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Before we jump in, we must warn you this episode
contains content such as sexual abuse that may be disturbing
to some people. Listener discretion is advised.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
Cieru STELESVII benidos are by Lasio de Ya Salavis.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The theater comes to life as a voice announces the
start of the concert.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Ista Islama Yamadama Jamada.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The grand hall is filled with guests dressed in evening
gowns and tuxedos. Their voices echo off the marble floors
and the elegant golden staircases. The theatre doubles as a museum,
showcasing paintings by Mexico's most renowned muralists Cicaios Orosco and
de Rivera, you know Rilla CALO's husband. Some people stroll around,
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gazing at the enormous floor to selling murals depicting scenes
from the Mexican Revolution. However, this is not any ordinary concert,
but rather a gathering of the rich and powerful, an
event with faces you usually only see in the newspapers.
The viaps on the events invite only lists are a
who's who of the Mexican elite, or talking congressmen, senators, governors, secretaries,
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of state and businessmen, all waiting to snap a photo
with the Apostle champagne flutes in hand, and as the
ground hall empties and they take their seats, the sound
of the city filter scene. You can hear the cries
of street vendors selling sunglasses and hot amalie. With a
classic barrel organ playing in the distance. Voices outside are
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chanting in unison. We can finally make out the name
they are calling the nasonde chant for is Nason qua
quing Garcia. But he is not a rockstar or a musician.
He isn't a prominent politician. He is the Apostle of God,
the leader of a church called Lalus del Mundo. Lalus
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del Mundo or ELLDM for short, means light of the World,
and the voices belong to thousands of his followers who
have gathered to celebrate his fiftieth birthday. Unlike the crowd inside,
most of the people outside are middle class workers, some
with banners that have images of Nason pensive and smiling.
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Some have created huge signs over twenty feet long with
phrases praising the Apostle and his good works. It was
evident that night how much Nason was admired and respected
by so many influential people, and truly and deeply loved
by a community of hundreds of thousands of faithful followers
all around the world. He is, after all, the third
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generation leader of a cult that started in Guairajara, Mexico,
now spanning more than fifty conve with over five million
reported followers. In the US, there are now temples in
all fifty states. That night, Nasun basked in the outpouring
of love and devotion from his faithful community, but all
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of it was about to implode. In just two weeks,
their beloved leader would be unmasked as something far from holy.
I'm Roberta Garza. This is a good scandal. Season two,
La Lous del Mundo, Episode one, The Fall of the Apostle.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's the largest cult in the world that no one
has ever heard of.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They believe that he was Jesus Christ on earth, God
on Earth. Destructive cult. They're everywhere, and you don't know
you're in a cult.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
There's nothing there, there's no records.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They had had that baby bear on a leash.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
All of the lions and tiger were in cages.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And so I remember as a little girl being groomed
to be his concubine.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It wasn't even so much that he liked sex.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
He wanted something that was shocking depraved. The more depraved, the.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Better Joannes Momento Ma Parlo.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All I could think about was killing him. There was
a sixteen year old kid with his aggressor.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
On this season of Sacred Scandal, we dived deep into
lalus E l Mundo. We will talk about how the
world recently discovered the horrific crimes and why those crimes
were kept in the shadow for so long. My name
is ROBERTA. Garza, a writer, journalist, and academic, and i
want to share this story because I've had personal first
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time experience with things gone wrong in the Church and
other high control groups, and I'm still coping. For more
than five hundred years, only one religion world in Mexico,
that power belonged to the Catholic Church, and the Catholic
Church alone. Few would dare to encroach on the jurisdiction
carved out by the force and domination of Vatican Supremacy.
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Until laluzel Mundo, or the Light of the World, this
new Christian Evangelical church founded in nineteen twenty six did
not kneel before a father, son, or holy Spirit, but
instead centered around its three patriarchs. The founder Aaron, his
son Samuel, and finally his grandson Nason. All were modern
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day apostles and God's chosen ones who ruled their model
communities with an iron fist. They were tightly aligned with
the Mexican political elite. L DM became the second biggest
religious denomination in Mexico and is one of the fastest
growing in the US, building a cult like following that
couldn't be touched for over a century. My research focuses
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on religion and high control groups. I've worked extensively on
Keithinieri and Marcel Maziel, and now I'm diving into the
dark insights of the light of the world. Over the
course of twelve episodes, will uncover the dark secrets of
this megachurch and speak with its abuse survivors. We will
investigate lledm's corrupt influence, the harassment, extortion, and the murder accusations.
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This is episode one, the Fall of the Apostle. Let's
go back to May twenty nineteen, when Nason was happily
celebrating his fiftieth birthday in Mexico City. It was no
ordinary party. He was gifted with an opera concert composed
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in his honor, played by the Mexican National Marine Band
and accompanied by a giant church choir. The gathering was
held at the breath day Palace of Ayas Artes. If
you've ever googled Mexico City, you've surely come across a
photo of Beyas Artes. It's an impressive Art nouveau venue
with iconic sunset colored domes, the beating heart of Mexico's
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cultural world. Think of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in
New York or the Tate Gallery in London. When you
step into the Beasartes marble halls, it's impossible do not
feel a sense of all as you stroll past massive
bronze lamps and grand staircases. Most impressive of all is
the colorful tiffany glass work that adorns the theater's curtain.
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To put it simply, Beas Artes is a stunning building
that's often referred to as the most important cultural center
in all Mexico. Since Beasartes is a public cultural center
in a secular state, they do not allow events with
any religious affiliation. However, an exception was made for the
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apostle Nason Yohamas.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I never expected so many people to come out. I
was impressed by how many people there were. I knew
that it was being broadcasted life across all of Mexico
and even in countries around the world. They tagged me
on a ton of photos and videos on Instagram of
people watching, and they weren't just from the United States.
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The sheer number of people watching was astounding.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's anghelmasis a member of La Luzel Mundo and a
singer of the choir who performed that night alongside the
National Marine Band at Bess Artists.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Poor Kee, you look.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Once I heard that the director Nason Joaquin would be present,
I needed to be there. I couldn't pass up an
opportunity to hear him, just see him.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The event was strictly invite only. That's why so many
of the ordinary led and followers were huddled outside. They
had no chance of getting in, yet they stood forming
a crowd, excitedly holding postures of Nasson. Followers came far
and wide to be in the proximity of their leader,
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just like fans, eagerly awaiting outside a pop Stars hotel
while the viaps were escorted through by the security detail.
Soon after the concert took place, people started asking questions
why was a public cultural venue being used to celebrate
the birthday of an evangelical leader. The Ministry of Culture
released an official statement saying that the celebration was never
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meant to be a tribute to Nason Waquing Garcia, that
it was just a concert, but the image of Nasson's
face plastered across hundreds of billboards and flyers distributed throughout
the country to promote the event made it hard to believe.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
What can you look as if the poets?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I can assure you that this event was utterly and
totally a cultural and musical presentation. It was just one
big concert with plays and operas and nothing to do
with religion. This wasn't a religious event.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I wasn't surprised to hear that the Ministry of Culture
and the church followers were aligned when it came to
the official public relations damage control messaging. Those in Mexico
know that LUs del Mundo is untouchable. How did Nasanjuaquin
Garcia I ask so much influence and become so politically connected.
I've had my own experience with the power of luzel Mundo.
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In the summer of twenty fifteen, I learned that the
then governor of my home state, Mewolon, had flown the
hour and a half fled to Walajara to kiss the
ring of Nasonjuaquin Garcia at one of lldm's main celebrations.
I was intrigued by the story and decided to write
about it. Shortly after it came out in the national
paper Millennium, ELDM filed a discrimination lawsuit against me. They
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took umbrage with the line in my article I had
described the church as a backwards organization. This ordeal dragged
on for five long years that frankly I'd rather forget,
But as a journalist, I was curious. Why would a
religious group go to such lengths to intimidate a reporter
who barely mentioned them in a short article that was
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eight years ago. Since then, I have spent a lot
of time trying to uncover what was really going on
with Alouzel Mundo, and what I discovered was way beyond
my worst expectations. That's after the break the millions of
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devout followers in laluzel Mundo are not casual observers. You
can't just show up at an LDM church and say, hey,
I want to join. It's a process that takes years,
even decades, of commitment and dedication, requiring grueling rituals and
this place of sacrifice.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
You had a five am church, a nine am church,
and a six thirty or six o'clock church, which is
the last one.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Elisa Flodes knows it will. She grew up in the
church during the seventies with her family in the small
town of Lilink, Texas. A daughter of one of the
first families to convert to LLDM in Texas. Her entire
life was devoted to the church and its apostles. She
was named Elisa as a tribute to the founder's wife.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Normally, our father always went to the five am church,
and if, like on a weekend or in the summer,
we went with our father, he would always reward us
and take us to Dunkin Donuts to shipleytonuts. So we
wanted to go to get donuts. We wanted to go
to church, but we wanted to go in the donuts.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Elisa's father entered LDM after an introduction from a fellow
talk driver who was a.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Member, and he invited him several several times, and my
dad for about five years said no.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He had been suffering from alcoholism and depression. The straw
that broke his back was one one day he woke
up to the dog licking him on his messic kitchen floor,
half dressed, covered in vomit. So he finally accepted his
friend's invitation. In the church, he found the support and
community he desperately needed, and he got better.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
It helped him get out of what he was going through.
So he felt needed like they needed a person that
drove trucks to do this, and that they needed my mom.
She cook cakes. Oh, we need a person to make cakes.
And so then they felt like, hey, this is a
good place for us to be.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Four months pregnant with Elisa, her mom got baptized in
the church. Elisa came out on LEDM newborn. Her destiny
was sealed when.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
You're born in the church. Their parents they promised the
church that they're going to raise you in the doctrine
of the church.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Joining LEDM church will have saved Elisa's father from alcoholism
and depression and provided her parents with a feeling of
importance and belonging their lives were appended for better or worse.
Ldm's foremost principle is obedience and submission to the apostles wishes,
whatever they may be about how you dress your soul, salvation,
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or maybe a new car for his coming birthday. Church
attendance three times a day is mandatory. Followers are expected
to be chased, dress conservatively, and live lives of extreme simplicity,
unburdened by material goods, in order to give all non
essential income to the church, and spend any free time
fundraising for l DM. Elisa remembers how after school and
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on weekends, the family sold flowers for the Apostle.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
We devein the roses, like take all the thorns off,
you make the rose arrangements, and then you go and
from eight o'clock in the morning or ten o'clock to
eight or nine o'clock at night, when the sun goes down,
you're there selling flowers. And we're doing all of this
for free, because we don't get paid for this, and
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all of the money goes back to the church.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
In addition to fundraising, Lisa's parents turned over a significant
portion of their income to the church more than the
ten percent that was required of them.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
And then you have like the big offerings, where like
they want to buy a gift for the apostle and
you have to do an offering with love.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Offerings of love consisted of standing up in the church
and announcing to the whole congregation how much you were giving.
Every pastor kept a tally of each member's generosity, and
woe to the ones who are not giving enough.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Then they look down at you and they tell you,
is that all the faith you have? Don't you know
that this is to make the Apostle of God happy.
He wants this land, and all you can give is
one hundred dollars two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
For Elisa, this all seemed normal. Her family's involvement in
the church was all encompassing, as other kids go to
dance classes, to soccer practice, or dress up as their
favorite stars and singers. She remembers playing church with her
brother as an eight year old.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
We would even separate our chairs because in our church
the men sit on one side and the women sit on
the other side, So we would set up our little
room like a church. When we went swimming, we would
baptize each other.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
We play church. Being a member of HELLDM means a
total commitment to the Church and to the Apostles.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
You also have to believe in the Apostle of God.
If you don't believe in the Apostle of God, then
you don't go to heaven.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The belief that the apostle was personally chosen by God
to restore his true church on earth is the cornerstone
of l DM's face. For them. The Vatican and everything
that came after is corrupted by God's appointment. Lldm's leader
is Christ's thirteenth Apostle. He can speak directly to God
and is himself revered as almost divine, capable of summoning
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angels and of opening or closing the gates of Hell
for the rest of the mortals. Only one apostle serves
at a time, and he is the sole leader of
the flock, responsible for carrying out God's will and earth.
But believing in the apostles divine appointment is just the beginning.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Everything that you do in this cult revolves around you
going to Heaven, and if you do these things so
you're basically your whole life. You're walking on eggshells because
you don't want to do anything wrong because you don't
know at any time, like they always teach you, at
any time, God's going to come to call you and
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your time is up, and are you going to go
to heaven or hell?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
There are many things you can do wrong inside the LDM,
and they surely let you know when you do. But
one of the worst things you can do inside the
church the one that gives you a guaranteed ticket to
Hell and a good reason to be shown from the
otherwise loving community. It's talking trash about the Apostle.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
They have songs about God filled them with leprosy because
they were talking against the Apostle. The ones that speak
against the Apostle, the devil has got a hold of them.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
In LDM, adult responsibilities come at you very fast. That
would be at age fourteen when Elisa got to experience
a real baptism her own.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
Once you turn fourteen, you're considered an adult in the church.
Prior to the age of fourteen or prior to you
being baptized, your parents are responsible for you, and if
you die, you'll go to heaven. And if your parents
testimony is good. If they're not, then you go to health.
Once you get baptized, you're responsible for your own salvation.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Only after baptism does a believer finally join ELLDM as
a full fledged member. As you get into the water
and it covers first your mouth, then the nose, then
your eyes and hair, cleansing your sins but also your innocence,
you're not supposed to know what you're doing, and you
must carry your own wait. You have become the keeper
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of your own soul, and most importantly, your allegiance to
the Apostle is now a personal affair. After her baptism,
Elisa could not rely on her parents to be responsible
for fulfilling her tithes and obligations anymore, and there were
a lot of those. Because if Ledm's flock is supposed
to be humble and austere, the Apostle and his closest
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relatives are regarded as royals, quite literally. The youngest science
are called princes and princesses. They live in a luxury
that not only is not seen as offensive, makes the
members proud. Devout members proudly give so the Apostle can
travel in fancy cars, undressed like a movie star, and
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they hung pictures of him in his silk shirts and
custom made suits at the most prominent walls in their
homes or offices, carrying miniature portraits in their cars and
wallets for good measure.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I do remember having several pictures in my house, in
my aunt's house, which is where I'd grow up, at
my grandparents' house.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
This is Suchil Martin, a former member of LEDM, who
remembers growing up with these images all around her.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So and anywhere in my family, aunts, uncles, cousins. It
doesn't matter. Every home that you went to with LDM.
There were pictures of the apostles nearly everywhere in our room,
and that sort of also proved like how much you
believed in the Apostle, like how many pictures you had
in your home?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But who was Nasan Juaquin, the man behind the flattering
pensive poses on those ever present images, the third in
the line of family members all apostles. The Song came
into power having been born into it. Since he came
into this world as the son of God's chosen one,
his every move was adored, revered and cheered on. The
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little Princelyn could do no wrong. Former ELLEDM pastor Hil
Silva recalls meeting in a song before he became the
third Apostle, and.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Na Song was a young guy when I met him.
He was very a young man, but very cocky, very
um entire, with a lot of ententirement.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
At the time, Oile was tasked with building what would
become elal Edm's flagship temple in Armosa Provincia, a neighborhood
of around five thousand people in Guallajara. Everyone who lives
there is a believer. It is considered the headquarters and
beating heart of La Uzelle Mundo. That's where the Apostles house,
the Casa Reale sits. While parents were missionaries and they
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were close to the Apostles family.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Nason accomplished his power and charisma through imposition, you know,
using his authority, not through you know, treating well the
people around him, especially enough his subordinates, you know, maybe
with the congregation. Was very smiley and very careful with
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his manners and everything.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Will also recalled that when Asan preached to his congregation,
he would always appear impeccably dressed in a tailor's suit
with a silk shirt wearing but you will watches and
exceeding confidence, flashing a big smile.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh the boy, so those that are those us here
and does.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Attention to detail two appearances. The commitment to a mirage
of perfection was important to the apostles. On the surface,
La louse el mundo sem picture perfect. The body of
the church boasted a thriving international congregation, an orderly happy flock,
attention grabbing temples, spiritual transcendence, security, and a sense of
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belonging for its members until it didn't more on that
after the break June twenty nineteen, the skies over Los
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Angeles bussed with the hum of a private jet just
a little over two weeks after Nassan's fiftieth birthday bash,
the Grand Concert at Veyas Artes. He was traveling in
style to California, looking forward to a relaxing vacation. The
plane touched down at Lax away from the main terminals,
and came to a stop. Nason walked down the stairs
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of the plane in his five thousand dollars suit, holding
a leather briefcase, expecting to see his usual car with
tinted windows and comfy seats, ready to take him to
one of the three houses he has in Los Angeles. Instead,
he was met by agents from the FBI, Homeland Security,
and ICE with a warrant for his arrest. I would
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love to be able to tell you how many agents
there were, what they said to him, and what Nason
set back as they hank offed him, but the district
attorney and the agents involved declined to comment. What we
do know is that Nason was instructed to open his
briefcase and lay out his belongings, and his passport, an
ipadad an iPhone were immediately confiscated. Nason's vacation would have
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to be postponed indefinitely.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Religious leaders are supposed to have the best interests of
their followers and congregations in mind. Officials say that is
not with the leader of the Light of the World
Church was doing. Instead, they say he was abusing his
position of power, taking advantage of people, families, and young
children for his own sexual desires.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On Monday night, my office arrested Nason Joaking Garcia.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of
followers call him the Apostle Jesus on Earth. Nisson Garcia
admitting in court he sexually abused young girls to.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
His church.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Nason's bail was set at a record break in ninety
million dollars. A Los Angeles court charged him with counts
including human trafficking, child pornography, and the rape of a minor.
The church was in a frenzy. They forbade their members
to watch the news or check the internet. They claimed
it was all Satan's work, as the devil had tempted
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Christ in the desert, now he was testing the Apostle.
To no one's surprised, Nason's followers, like Elisa adamantly rejected
his guilt.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
When we were told in church that he was arrested,
they brought down this big screen, this projector screen, and
they put on the video, and the bishops told us
that the Apostle of God had gotten arrested, and that
they would be our form of communication, that we weren't
gonna we were supposed to be looking at anything other
than what they tell us to or that they would
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be the ones to tell us the truth about what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That was until she visited her brother Moses, who had
recently left the church.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
My brother, he starts telling me, hey, Elisa, what do
you think about this stuff that's going on with Nassan
and I'm like, oh, it's an immigration thing and he
was like, no, it's not, and I'm like, yes it is,
and he goes, no, this is about sexual assault. This
is about he did stuff with kids. And I was like, no,
it's not, and he's like, yes, Elisa, that's what it is.
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Because I never looked it up.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Elisa could obey her pastors no longer. When she went
online and saw the victims the positions, her whole world
came crushing down.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
This was my identity, this was my life, My church
was my life, and my life was a lie. My
whole life, my whole being, everything was a lie.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
On this season of Sacred Scandal l uzel Mundo, we'll
hear from a diverse group of experts, from historians and
psychologists to lawyers and people close to the apostles. However,
what matters most is that we'll be hearing firsthand from
the survivors were still really and healing from their traumatic
experiences from abuse, assault, and even attempted murder. They are
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the ones who are bravely fighting to expose LEDM for
what it really is, a manipulative organization that has caused
unimaginable suffering, and even this, you can't prove that there's
a God. You can't prove that this person isn't a
prophet of God.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
So imagine being a little girl like myself who's being
raised and thinking, Hey, this the Apostle of Jesus Christ.
You're going to be his wife. The money circulates, and
it somehow gets into the government and in his society,
but it all comes back somehow.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
We stand here today and we are moving forward in
court to speak for literally thousands of victims of Nason
Walking Garcia and his conspirators.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I know that at some point the victims had some
justice done, you know, looking at him, defeated, cowardly, silent, cowardly,
looking at the wall, without the you know, the gods,
to turn his face to his victims.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
What does it feel like to go from being a
darling of nasona the church to being an enemy of
the Apostle. That's on the next episode of Sacred Scandal
La Lustmundo Joannes Momento.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
All I could think about was killing him. I looked
at a rock and I thought I'll break his face
and with that stone, but I stopped. There was a
sixteen year old kid with his aggressor. My father and
with good reason, being a judge, told me that the
laws exist but are not applied in the country. They
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will kill you. From there, I created a battle plan,
a strategy to put him in jail. I was focused.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Moises Padilla was groomed by Nassan's father, and then when
he tried to speak out, he was haunted by the
church's henchmen, stabbed dozens of times and left to die
on the side of the road. Threatened, attacked, and exiled.
Moises never gave up his quest for justice. How do
you become a whistle blower after an attempt on your life?
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His story is on the next episode of Sacred Scandal
Lalus del Mundo. Sacred Scandal Lalus el Mundo is a
production of Exile Conton Studio in partnership with Aarhartsmichael Tura
podcast Network, and is hosted by me Roberta Raza, produced
by Savin Johnson with the help of Stella Emmett, Reynald
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Kutieres and Anna Sable Octavio. Written by myself and Monissa Hendrix.
Research by Roberta Garza. Fact checking for this episode by
Marina Penne. Additional reporting by Florenzia Sonsiles Gracia, Engineering by
Uga Mendoza, Sound designed by Patrick Unis. Original music by
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Patrick Hart, edited by writer Alsop and Rose Reed. Executive
producers are Rose Reed, Carmen graterol Isaac Lee, and Nando Villa.
Daniel Batista Overseas Audio at Exile. Conton Studio are executive
producers at iHeart, R Gsel Banzes and Arlene Santana. Sacred
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Speaker 2 (00:16):
Cieru STELESVII benidos are by Lasio de Ya Salavis.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
The theater comes to life as a voice announces the
start of the concert.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
Ista Islama Yamadama Jamada.
Speaker 1 (00:28):
The grand hall is filled with guests dressed in evening
gowns and tuxedos. Their voices echo off the marble floors
and the elegant golden staircases. The theatre doubles as a museum,
showcasing paintings by Mexico's most renowned muralists Cicaios Orosco and
de Rivera, you know Rilla CALO's husband. Some people stroll around,
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gazing at the enormous floor to selling murals depicting scenes
from the Mexican Revolution. However, this is not any ordinary concert,
but rather a gathering of the rich and powerful, an
event with faces you usually only see in the newspapers.
The viaps on the events invite only lists are a
who's who of the Mexican elite, or talking congressmen, senators, governors, secretaries,
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of state and businessmen, all waiting to snap a photo
with the Apostle champagne flutes in hand, and as the
ground hall empties and they take their seats, the sound
of the city filter scene. You can hear the cries
of street vendors selling sunglasses and hot amalie. With a
classic barrel organ playing in the distance. Voices outside are
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chanting in unison. We can finally make out the name
they are calling the nasonde chant for is Nason qua
quing Garcia. But he is not a rockstar or a musician.
He isn't a prominent politician. He is the Apostle of God,
the leader of a church called Lalus del Mundo. Lalus
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del Mundo or ELLDM for short, means light of the World,
and the voices belong to thousands of his followers who
have gathered to celebrate his fiftieth birthday. Unlike the crowd inside,
most of the people outside are middle class workers, some
with banners that have images of Nason pensive and smiling.
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Some have created huge signs over twenty feet long with
phrases praising the Apostle and his good works. It was
evident that night how much Nason was admired and respected
by so many influential people, and truly and deeply loved
by a community of hundreds of thousands of faithful followers
all around the world. He is, after all, the third
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generation leader of a cult that started in Guairajara, Mexico,
now spanning more than fifty conve with over five million
reported followers. In the US, there are now temples in
all fifty states. That night, Nasun basked in the outpouring
of love and devotion from his faithful community, but all
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of it was about to implode. In just two weeks,
their beloved leader would be unmasked as something far from holy.
I'm Roberta Garza. This is a good scandal. Season two,
La Lous del Mundo, Episode one, The Fall of the Apostle.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
It's the largest cult in the world that no one
has ever heard of.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
They believe that he was Jesus Christ on earth, God
on Earth. Destructive cult. They're everywhere, and you don't know
you're in a cult.
Speaker 6 (03:52):
There's nothing there, there's no records.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
They had had that baby bear on a leash.
Speaker 7 (03:58):
All of the lions and tiger were in cages.
Speaker 5 (04:02):
And so I remember as a little girl being groomed
to be his concubine.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
It wasn't even so much that he liked sex.
Speaker 8 (04:10):
He wanted something that was shocking depraved. The more depraved, the.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
Better Joannes Momento Ma Parlo.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
All I could think about was killing him. There was
a sixteen year old kid with his aggressor.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
On this season of Sacred Scandal, we dived deep into
lalus E l Mundo. We will talk about how the
world recently discovered the horrific crimes and why those crimes
were kept in the shadow for so long. My name
is ROBERTA. Garza, a writer, journalist, and academic, and i
want to share this story because I've had personal first
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time experience with things gone wrong in the Church and
other high control groups, and I'm still coping. For more
than five hundred years, only one religion world in Mexico,
that power belonged to the Catholic Church, and the Catholic
Church alone. Few would dare to encroach on the jurisdiction
carved out by the force and domination of Vatican Supremacy.
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Until laluzel Mundo, or the Light of the World, this
new Christian Evangelical church founded in nineteen twenty six did
not kneel before a father, son, or holy Spirit, but
instead centered around its three patriarchs. The founder Aaron, his
son Samuel, and finally his grandson Nason. All were modern
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day apostles and God's chosen ones who ruled their model
communities with an iron fist. They were tightly aligned with
the Mexican political elite. L DM became the second biggest
religious denomination in Mexico and is one of the fastest
growing in the US, building a cult like following that
couldn't be touched for over a century. My research focuses
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on religion and high control groups. I've worked extensively on
Keithinieri and Marcel Maziel, and now I'm diving into the
dark insights of the light of the world. Over the
course of twelve episodes, will uncover the dark secrets of
this megachurch and speak with its abuse survivors. We will
investigate lledm's corrupt influence, the harassment, extortion, and the murder accusations.
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This is episode one, the Fall of the Apostle. Let's
go back to May twenty nineteen, when Nason was happily
celebrating his fiftieth birthday in Mexico City. It was no
ordinary party. He was gifted with an opera concert composed
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in his honor, played by the Mexican National Marine Band
and accompanied by a giant church choir. The gathering was
held at the breath day Palace of Ayas Artes. If
you've ever googled Mexico City, you've surely come across a
photo of Beyas Artes. It's an impressive Art nouveau venue
with iconic sunset colored domes, the beating heart of Mexico's
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cultural world. Think of the Metropolitan Museum of Art in
New York or the Tate Gallery in London. When you
step into the Beasartes marble halls, it's impossible do not
feel a sense of all as you stroll past massive
bronze lamps and grand staircases. Most impressive of all is
the colorful tiffany glass work that adorns the theater's curtain.
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To put it simply, Beas Artes is a stunning building
that's often referred to as the most important cultural center
in all Mexico. Since Beasartes is a public cultural center
in a secular state, they do not allow events with
any religious affiliation. However, an exception was made for the
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apostle Nason Yohamas.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
I never expected so many people to come out. I
was impressed by how many people there were. I knew
that it was being broadcasted life across all of Mexico
and even in countries around the world. They tagged me
on a ton of photos and videos on Instagram of
people watching, and they weren't just from the United States.
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The sheer number of people watching was astounding.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
That's anghelmasis a member of La Luzel Mundo and a
singer of the choir who performed that night alongside the
National Marine Band at Bess Artists.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Poor Kee, you look.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Once I heard that the director Nason Joaquin would be present,
I needed to be there. I couldn't pass up an
opportunity to hear him, just see him.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
The event was strictly invite only. That's why so many
of the ordinary led and followers were huddled outside. They
had no chance of getting in, yet they stood forming
a crowd, excitedly holding postures of Nasson. Followers came far
and wide to be in the proximity of their leader,
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just like fans, eagerly awaiting outside a pop Stars hotel
while the viaps were escorted through by the security detail.
Soon after the concert took place, people started asking questions
why was a public cultural venue being used to celebrate
the birthday of an evangelical leader. The Ministry of Culture
released an official statement saying that the celebration was never
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meant to be a tribute to Nason Waquing Garcia, that
it was just a concert, but the image of Nasson's
face plastered across hundreds of billboards and flyers distributed throughout
the country to promote the event made it hard to believe.
Speaker 8 (09:50):
What can you look as if the poets?
Speaker 3 (09:54):
I can assure you that this event was utterly and
totally a cultural and musical presentation. It was just one
big concert with plays and operas and nothing to do
with religion. This wasn't a religious event.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
I wasn't surprised to hear that the Ministry of Culture
and the church followers were aligned when it came to
the official public relations damage control messaging. Those in Mexico
know that LUs del Mundo is untouchable. How did Nasanjuaquin
Garcia I ask so much influence and become so politically connected.
I've had my own experience with the power of luzel Mundo.
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In the summer of twenty fifteen, I learned that the
then governor of my home state, Mewolon, had flown the
hour and a half fled to Walajara to kiss the
ring of Nasonjuaquin Garcia at one of lldm's main celebrations.
I was intrigued by the story and decided to write
about it. Shortly after it came out in the national
paper Millennium, ELDM filed a discrimination lawsuit against me. They
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took umbrage with the line in my article I had
described the church as a backwards organization. This ordeal dragged
on for five long years that frankly I'd rather forget,
But as a journalist, I was curious. Why would a
religious group go to such lengths to intimidate a reporter
who barely mentioned them in a short article that was
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eight years ago. Since then, I have spent a lot
of time trying to uncover what was really going on
with Alouzel Mundo, and what I discovered was way beyond
my worst expectations. That's after the break the millions of
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devout followers in laluzel Mundo are not casual observers. You
can't just show up at an LDM church and say, hey,
I want to join. It's a process that takes years,
even decades, of commitment and dedication, requiring grueling rituals and
this place of sacrifice.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
You had a five am church, a nine am church,
and a six thirty or six o'clock church, which is
the last one.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Elisa Flodes knows it will. She grew up in the
church during the seventies with her family in the small
town of Lilink, Texas. A daughter of one of the
first families to convert to LLDM in Texas. Her entire
life was devoted to the church and its apostles. She
was named Elisa as a tribute to the founder's wife.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Normally, our father always went to the five am church,
and if, like on a weekend or in the summer,
we went with our father, he would always reward us
and take us to Dunkin Donuts to shipleytonuts. So we
wanted to go to get donuts. We wanted to go
to church, but we wanted to go in the donuts.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
Elisa's father entered LDM after an introduction from a fellow
talk driver who was a.
Speaker 8 (12:50):
Member, and he invited him several several times, and my
dad for about five years said no.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
He had been suffering from alcoholism and depression. The straw
that broke his back was one one day he woke
up to the dog licking him on his messic kitchen floor,
half dressed, covered in vomit. So he finally accepted his
friend's invitation. In the church, he found the support and
community he desperately needed, and he got better.
Speaker 8 (13:20):
It helped him get out of what he was going through.
So he felt needed like they needed a person that
drove trucks to do this, and that they needed my mom.
She cook cakes. Oh, we need a person to make cakes.
And so then they felt like, hey, this is a
good place for us to be.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Four months pregnant with Elisa, her mom got baptized in
the church. Elisa came out on LEDM newborn. Her destiny
was sealed when.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
You're born in the church. Their parents they promised the
church that they're going to raise you in the doctrine
of the church.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Joining LEDM church will have saved Elisa's father from alcoholism
and depression and provided her parents with a feeling of
importance and belonging their lives were appended for better or worse.
Ldm's foremost principle is obedience and submission to the apostles wishes,
whatever they may be about how you dress your soul, salvation,
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or maybe a new car for his coming birthday. Church
attendance three times a day is mandatory. Followers are expected
to be chased, dress conservatively, and live lives of extreme simplicity,
unburdened by material goods, in order to give all non
essential income to the church, and spend any free time
fundraising for l DM. Elisa remembers how after school and
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on weekends, the family sold flowers for the Apostle.
Speaker 8 (14:48):
We devein the roses, like take all the thorns off,
you make the rose arrangements, and then you go and
from eight o'clock in the morning or ten o'clock to
eight or nine o'clock at night, when the sun goes down,
you're there selling flowers. And we're doing all of this
for free, because we don't get paid for this, and
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all of the money goes back to the church.
Speaker 1 (15:14):
In addition to fundraising, Lisa's parents turned over a significant
portion of their income to the church more than the
ten percent that was required of them.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
And then you have like the big offerings, where like
they want to buy a gift for the apostle and
you have to do an offering with love.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Offerings of love consisted of standing up in the church
and announcing to the whole congregation how much you were giving.
Every pastor kept a tally of each member's generosity, and
woe to the ones who are not giving enough.
Speaker 8 (15:47):
Then they look down at you and they tell you,
is that all the faith you have? Don't you know
that this is to make the Apostle of God happy.
He wants this land, and all you can give is
one hundred dollars two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
For Elisa, this all seemed normal. Her family's involvement in
the church was all encompassing, as other kids go to
dance classes, to soccer practice, or dress up as their
favorite stars and singers. She remembers playing church with her
brother as an eight year old.
Speaker 8 (16:18):
We would even separate our chairs because in our church
the men sit on one side and the women sit on
the other side, So we would set up our little
room like a church. When we went swimming, we would
baptize each other.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
We play church. Being a member of HELLDM means a
total commitment to the Church and to the Apostles.
Speaker 8 (16:40):
You also have to believe in the Apostle of God.
If you don't believe in the Apostle of God, then
you don't go to heaven.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
The belief that the apostle was personally chosen by God
to restore his true church on earth is the cornerstone
of l DM's face. For them. The Vatican and everything
that came after is corrupted by God's appointment. Lldm's leader
is Christ's thirteenth Apostle. He can speak directly to God
and is himself revered as almost divine, capable of summoning
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angels and of opening or closing the gates of Hell
for the rest of the mortals. Only one apostle serves
at a time, and he is the sole leader of
the flock, responsible for carrying out God's will and earth.
But believing in the apostles divine appointment is just the beginning.
Speaker 8 (17:35):
Everything that you do in this cult revolves around you
going to Heaven, and if you do these things so
you're basically your whole life. You're walking on eggshells because
you don't want to do anything wrong because you don't
know at any time, like they always teach you, at
any time, God's going to come to call you and
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your time is up, and are you going to go
to heaven or hell?
Speaker 1 (18:02):
There are many things you can do wrong inside the LDM,
and they surely let you know when you do. But
one of the worst things you can do inside the
church the one that gives you a guaranteed ticket to
Hell and a good reason to be shown from the
otherwise loving community. It's talking trash about the Apostle.
Speaker 8 (18:22):
They have songs about God filled them with leprosy because
they were talking against the Apostle. The ones that speak
against the Apostle, the devil has got a hold of them.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
In LDM, adult responsibilities come at you very fast. That
would be at age fourteen when Elisa got to experience
a real baptism her own.
Speaker 8 (18:46):
Once you turn fourteen, you're considered an adult in the church.
Prior to the age of fourteen or prior to you
being baptized, your parents are responsible for you, and if
you die, you'll go to heaven. And if your parents
testimony is good. If they're not, then you go to health.
Once you get baptized, you're responsible for your own salvation.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Only after baptism does a believer finally join ELLDM as
a full fledged member. As you get into the water
and it covers first your mouth, then the nose, then
your eyes and hair, cleansing your sins but also your innocence,
you're not supposed to know what you're doing, and you
must carry your own wait. You have become the keeper
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of your own soul, and most importantly, your allegiance to
the Apostle is now a personal affair. After her baptism,
Elisa could not rely on her parents to be responsible
for fulfilling her tithes and obligations anymore, and there were
a lot of those. Because if Ledm's flock is supposed
to be humble and austere, the Apostle and his closest
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relatives are regarded as royals, quite literally. The youngest science
are called princes and princesses. They live in a luxury
that not only is not seen as offensive, makes the
members proud. Devout members proudly give so the Apostle can
travel in fancy cars, undressed like a movie star, and
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they hung pictures of him in his silk shirts and
custom made suits at the most prominent walls in their
homes or offices, carrying miniature portraits in their cars and
wallets for good measure.
Speaker 5 (20:29):
I do remember having several pictures in my house, in
my aunt's house, which is where I'd grow up, at
my grandparents' house.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
This is Suchil Martin, a former member of LEDM, who
remembers growing up with these images all around her.
Speaker 5 (20:44):
So and anywhere in my family, aunts, uncles, cousins. It
doesn't matter. Every home that you went to with LDM.
There were pictures of the apostles nearly everywhere in our room,
and that sort of also proved like how much you
believed in the Apostle, like how many pictures you had
in your home?
Speaker 1 (21:04):
But who was Nasan Juaquin, the man behind the flattering
pensive poses on those ever present images, the third in
the line of family members all apostles. The Song came
into power having been born into it. Since he came
into this world as the son of God's chosen one,
his every move was adored, revered and cheered on. The
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little Princelyn could do no wrong. Former ELLEDM pastor Hil
Silva recalls meeting in a song before he became the
third Apostle, and.
Speaker 6 (21:36):
Na Song was a young guy when I met him.
He was very a young man, but very cocky, very
um entire, with a lot of ententirement.
Speaker 1 (21:47):
At the time, Oile was tasked with building what would
become elal Edm's flagship temple in Armosa Provincia, a neighborhood
of around five thousand people in Guallajara. Everyone who lives
there is a believer. It is considered the headquarters and
beating heart of La Uzelle Mundo. That's where the Apostles house,
the Casa Reale sits. While parents were missionaries and they
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were close to the Apostles family.
Speaker 6 (22:13):
Nason accomplished his power and charisma through imposition, you know,
using his authority, not through you know, treating well the
people around him, especially enough his subordinates, you know, maybe
with the congregation. Was very smiley and very careful with
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his manners and everything.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
Will also recalled that when Asan preached to his congregation,
he would always appear impeccably dressed in a tailor's suit
with a silk shirt wearing but you will watches and
exceeding confidence, flashing a big smile.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Oh the boy, so those that are those us here
and does.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Attention to detail two appearances. The commitment to a mirage
of perfection was important to the apostles. On the surface,
La louse el mundo sem picture perfect. The body of
the church boasted a thriving international congregation, an orderly happy flock,
attention grabbing temples, spiritual transcendence, security, and a sense of
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belonging for its members until it didn't more on that
after the break June twenty nineteen, the skies over Los
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Angeles bussed with the hum of a private jet just
a little over two weeks after Nassan's fiftieth birthday bash,
the Grand Concert at Veyas Artes. He was traveling in
style to California, looking forward to a relaxing vacation. The
plane touched down at Lax away from the main terminals,
and came to a stop. Nason walked down the stairs
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of the plane in his five thousand dollars suit, holding
a leather briefcase, expecting to see his usual car with
tinted windows and comfy seats, ready to take him to
one of the three houses he has in Los Angeles. Instead,
he was met by agents from the FBI, Homeland Security,
and ICE with a warrant for his arrest. I would
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love to be able to tell you how many agents
there were, what they said to him, and what Nason
set back as they hank offed him, but the district
attorney and the agents involved declined to comment. What we
do know is that Nason was instructed to open his
briefcase and lay out his belongings, and his passport, an
ipadad an iPhone were immediately confiscated. Nason's vacation would have
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to be postponed indefinitely.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
Religious leaders are supposed to have the best interests of
their followers and congregations in mind. Officials say that is
not with the leader of the Light of the World
Church was doing. Instead, they say he was abusing his
position of power, taking advantage of people, families, and young
children for his own sexual desires.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
On Monday night, my office arrested Nason Joaking Garcia.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of
followers call him the Apostle Jesus on Earth. Nisson Garcia
admitting in court he sexually abused young girls to.
Speaker 9 (25:40):
His church.
Speaker 1 (25:43):
Nason's bail was set at a record break in ninety
million dollars. A Los Angeles court charged him with counts
including human trafficking, child pornography, and the rape of a minor.
The church was in a frenzy. They forbade their members
to watch the news or check the internet. They claimed
it was all Satan's work, as the devil had tempted
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Christ in the desert, now he was testing the Apostle.
To no one's surprised, Nason's followers, like Elisa adamantly rejected
his guilt.
Speaker 8 (26:14):
When we were told in church that he was arrested,
they brought down this big screen, this projector screen, and
they put on the video, and the bishops told us
that the Apostle of God had gotten arrested, and that
they would be our form of communication, that we weren't
gonna we were supposed to be looking at anything other
than what they tell us to or that they would
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be the ones to tell us the truth about what
was going on.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
That was until she visited her brother Moses, who had
recently left the church.
Speaker 8 (26:46):
My brother, he starts telling me, hey, Elisa, what do
you think about this stuff that's going on with Nassan
and I'm like, oh, it's an immigration thing and he
was like, no, it's not, and I'm like, yes it is,
and he goes, no, this is about sexual assault. This
is about he did stuff with kids. And I was like, no,
it's not, and he's like, yes, Elisa, that's what it is.
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Because I never looked it up.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Elisa could obey her pastors no longer. When she went
online and saw the victims the positions, her whole world
came crushing down.
Speaker 8 (27:20):
This was my identity, this was my life, My church
was my life, and my life was a lie. My
whole life, my whole being, everything was a lie.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
On this season of Sacred Scandal l uzel Mundo, we'll
hear from a diverse group of experts, from historians and
psychologists to lawyers and people close to the apostles. However,
what matters most is that we'll be hearing firsthand from
the survivors were still really and healing from their traumatic
experiences from abuse, assault, and even attempted murder. They are
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the ones who are bravely fighting to expose LEDM for
what it really is, a manipulative organization that has caused
unimaginable suffering, and even this, you can't prove that there's
a God. You can't prove that this person isn't a
prophet of God.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
So imagine being a little girl like myself who's being
raised and thinking, Hey, this the Apostle of Jesus Christ.
You're going to be his wife. The money circulates, and
it somehow gets into the government and in his society,
but it all comes back somehow.
Speaker 9 (28:40):
We stand here today and we are moving forward in
court to speak for literally thousands of victims of Nason
Walking Garcia and his conspirators.
Speaker 6 (28:53):
I know that at some point the victims had some
justice done, you know, looking at him, defeated, cowardly, silent, cowardly,
looking at the wall, without the you know, the gods,
to turn his face to his victims.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
What does it feel like to go from being a
darling of nasona the church to being an enemy of
the Apostle. That's on the next episode of Sacred Scandal
La Lustmundo Joannes Momento.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
All I could think about was killing him. I looked
at a rock and I thought I'll break his face
and with that stone, but I stopped. There was a
sixteen year old kid with his aggressor. My father and
with good reason, being a judge, told me that the
laws exist but are not applied in the country. They
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will kill you. From there, I created a battle plan,
a strategy to put him in jail. I was focused.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Moises Padilla was groomed by Nassan's father, and then when
he tried to speak out, he was haunted by the
church's henchmen, stabbed dozens of times and left to die
on the side of the road. Threatened, attacked, and exiled.
Moises never gave up his quest for justice. How do
you become a whistle blower after an attempt on your life?
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His story is on the next episode of Sacred Scandal
Lalus del Mundo. Sacred Scandal Lalus el Mundo is a
production of Exile Conton Studio in partnership with Aarhartsmichael Tura
podcast Network, and is hosted by me Roberta Raza, produced
by Savin Johnson with the help of Stella Emmett, Reynald
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Kutieres and Anna Sable Octavio. Written by myself and Monissa Hendrix.
Research by Roberta Garza. Fact checking for this episode by
Marina Penne. Additional reporting by Florenzia Sonsiles Gracia, Engineering by
Uga Mendoza, Sound designed by Patrick Unis. Original music by
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Patrick Hart, edited by writer Alsop and Rose Reed. Executive
producers are Rose Reed, Carmen graterol Isaac Lee, and Nando Villa.
Daniel Batista Overseas Audio at Exile. Conton Studio are executive
producers at iHeart, R Gsel Banzes and Arlene Santana. Sacred
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Scandal was created by Melanie Bartley and Paula Baros. Special
thanks to the voice actors who contributed to this episode,
Alexis Carvosa and to Sonic Union. For more podcasts, go
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
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