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August 28, 2025 42 mins

Behind the Flow turns the spotlight on the lifeblood of the game: the fans. From the blueprint of the Portland Timbers Army to the birth of San Diego’s own Frontera SD supporters’ union, we explore how culture in the stands is shaping the club on and off the pitch.

We hear from SDFC CEO Tom Penn, Timbers Army 107 founder Fernando “Nando” Machicado and Frontera SD’s Matt Buse on uniting supporter groups under one voice.

Plus, 19-year-old Luca Bombino, the LA local boy and LAFC academy graduate now tearing it up for SDFC. He shares his pride and determination as he prepares to face his parent club in one of the season’s fiercest fixtures - and one both sets of fans are desperate to win!

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Speaker 1 (00:22):
That sounds awesome.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
I'm Adrian Gutsie Amaricas and this is Behind the Flow,
the podcast where we're diving deep, week by week into
the heart of San Diego FC as they navigate their
first MLS season. Now, this week is all about the
lifeblood of the game, the fans, from the blueprint of
the Portland Timbers Army to the rise of San Diego's
own from data as the supporters, and yes, that growing

(00:45):
rivalry with LA. We're gonna hear from SDFC chairman Tom
penn on how Portland actually inspired the supporter culture that
he built at LAFC and now here in San Diego.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
I went to a Portland Timbers game with my kids.
They looked over at the Timbers Army and they were
just roaring and they're like, Daddy, this is awesome, and
I'm like, this is awesome.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
We're going to talk to Fernando Nando Machado, one of
the founding members of the Timbers Army, about what it
takes to build the culture from scratch.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
Everyone is Timber's Army, right.

Speaker 5 (01:16):
Everybody has their own crews.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
Or their own groups of folks.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
I think like we've done a pretty good job of
trying to incorporate everybody's opinions on what football culture is.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
We're going to head into the north stand at Snapdragon.
They hear from the front as the members themselves, including
Matt Boots on the songs, the Passion and Yes, the
challenges of keeping supporter culture wild but safe.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
In the beginning was next bag of chants, but really
I think the roots of all of our chants developed
from South America.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
And with lafc Up. Next, we're going to hear from.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Luca Bombino, the academy kid from La now shining for
San Diego FC, as he prepares to return to Bemo Stadium.

Speaker 7 (01:57):
That really felt welcomed and at home in San Diego.
I'm there to compete. Football's a business, you know, So
I'm going to go and give everything I have for
the colors I love to play for.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
This is football, this is fan culture, this is San Diego.

(02:28):
Welcome to this week's edition Behind the Flow. I'm joined
as always, buy my amigos, proud people of the San
Diego Comunidad, the eighteen counties live within their chest. Katia
Casta the Boys, the person that makes everything flow at ESPN.

Speaker 1 (02:42):
That's our opinion. That's how we're gonna always break it down.

Speaker 2 (02:45):
And local broadcaster San Diego Icon Treasure Now Darren Smith,
analyst also for San Diego WEBSI welcome, guys. I know
every week I kind of build up that intro for
you guys a little bit more and more as we say.
And I know, Darren, you already know the expression since
you're invited to all nasadas. Now we had a little
extra mustard to the hot dog here.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
This is gonna be a.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
Great episode of fun episode because coming into the action,
coming into this week, going into the flow of this
behind the flow show, we're gonna dive into probably the
second most important thing behind actually kicking the ball around
fan culture. But first Portland Timbers on last week's show,
I was so confident, guys, I was so confident it

(03:28):
was gonna be four and nothing in for the big story.
Though San Diego have officially clinched the playoff spot, the
first Ones lose Premenos to get in to the MLS
playoffs excluding the pandemic season A, SDFC are the fastest
expansion club to secure a playoff place at just twenty
eight matches, one quicker than Seattle Sounders in two thousand

(03:48):
and nine.

Speaker 1 (03:49):
That is a great achievement.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Let's get it started, guys, Darren Katia, we could talk
about so much. Sixty two percent possession, tenth clean sheet,
man of the match, Manu Dua, Manu of the match again,
and Corey Baird the new signings du Defren Smith.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
Where would you like to get started?

Speaker 8 (04:05):
Well, I'm going to take some partial credit for my
prediction last week where I said it would be too nil.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
I knew you were going to go there, so I
got the.

Speaker 8 (04:12):
Nil right and two times I saw the ball go
into the net, I saw the fireworks go off. I
heard the PA announcer say goal, So I'm gonna take
partial credit for that, even though they were called off
due to replays. But the most important thing I think
is walking out of that building seeing the big slide
up on the screen at Snapdragon Stadium. Playoffs clinched.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
What a moment for this club.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Got damn playoffs, as they would say in the NFL playoffs.

Speaker 9 (04:37):
Yes, playoffs playoffs bound.

Speaker 10 (04:40):
Congratulations san Diego to Chookey's words after the game when
he said, are you surprised about the success that the
team has had in this first season? He's like, if
you go back to my early interviews, I said it
before that you were going to be surprised because good
things were coming. I was listening to one of the

(05:01):
MLS games broadcast over the weekend and they said, I
am guilty because when I did that ranking in the
beginning of the season, I picked San Diego to be
dead last in the Western Conference, and now look at
where they are.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
I don't think anybody was expecting it, and I think
Seb Morua deserves plenty of credit. He's behind the marketing,
behind so many things that have been successful for San
diegobc's first season. I mean, we could talk about all
of the success on the field, but what was built
with the fan base is just as special in year one,
something that takes years to cultivate. Darren, it's been absolutely

(05:37):
on fire, especially this weekend as you guys were calling
this match, it was just the electric.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
I think you're right. We give a ton of praise,
rightfully so, to the sporting director, to the coaches, to
the players, but I think not enough is said about
how difficult it is to build a supporters group and
one that has been as functional, as loud, as noticeable,
and you know, that's true because you hear how much
it's referenced by the players and by the head coach
Mikey Vadas and Gota.

Speaker 2 (06:04):
You've had so many opportunities to talk to Chuki Losano,
and I'm sure that that's one of the things that
excites him and his family, the way he's being treated
and nurtured by from Tetzi, but especially the wrestler mask
that he gets to put on quite a bit this
season so far.

Speaker 10 (06:17):
Definitely, And when you're talking about a dping or that
important first signing, that cornerstone that you're going to build
the club upon, it had to be someone that spoke
to the community, that the community could see themselves reflected
in that they could support and be excited and passionate about.
And that is it being Chuki Losano. I was actually

(06:37):
reading this story a few weeks ago on The New
York Times by Martin Rodgers as part of a series
called Finding Football, and I love how it opens up
describing San Diego. I even had to write it down
because it says it's a diverse population and proximity to
Mexico allows for a rich soccer culture, that San Diego
is a richly diversity with a Hispanic or Latino population

(06:58):
that makes up nearly one third of its residence. So
it was very special that the team on the field
could speak to that community.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And boy, have they ever and have they represented? And
all colors, allsty otis all representing San Diego, waiting thirty
years to unleash this energy.

Speaker 1 (07:17):
Next, we're headed.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
Into the stands, into the songs, into the heart of
San Diego, supporting culture, and this episode is all about
fan culture. So let's hear from the ogs. Before coming
to the Finest City. Tom Penn was making history in
la as one of the architects of LAFC and when
he built that club from scratch, he modeled its supporters
on Portland and their legendary Timbers Army. Now in San Diego,

(07:39):
he's bringing that same blueprint to Snapdragon.

Speaker 1 (07:41):
Here he is talking to us.

Speaker 2 (07:43):
Back in September twenty twenty four, nearly six months before
sdfc's home opener.

Speaker 3 (07:53):
I went to a Portland Timbers game with my kids
in twenty eleven. They looked over at the Timbers Army
and they were roaring in the end zone and they're like, Daddy,
this is awesome, And I'm like, this is awesome. I
had no idea that was happening in America. And when
we knew we had the opportunity to do a club
from scratch in Los Angeles, that was really intriguing to

(08:17):
see if we could kind of recreate some version of
that in LA and I talked to the Timbers Army
leadership and the Timbers and did research with other clubs
and that's what happened at LAFC was the thirty two
fifty two.

Speaker 9 (08:31):
Became the union.

Speaker 3 (08:32):
There of multiple groups coming together under that name and
declaring their allegiance to LAFC and then doing whatever they did,
which has been amazing. So we're doing the same here
process with different groups, you know. So there are local
groups that have bound together in the Independent Supporters Union.

(08:55):
What makes it sustainable is if you have folks that
really are committed to an organizational structure in a way
that they've got a hierarchy and elected leaders and rules
of engagement and by laws, and then they become this
force at our matches because they drive the atmosphere, because

(09:15):
they sing their songs and play their drums and throw
off their smoke and chuck their beers in the air.

Speaker 9 (09:21):
When we score goals and.

Speaker 4 (09:22):
It's just super fun.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
But then they become a force in the community too,
because the way a union works, they can take dues,
they can raise money, and then they deploy it in
their own way in the community, and then we can
partner with them on that. So they become a real
force for good in the community. And the fabric of
how that comes together and then expresses itself at all

(09:45):
those levels is yet to be determined, and that's the
fun part.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
So that's where it all began for Tom Penn one
night in Portland, looking over at the Timbers Army and
realizing just how powerful a supporters group could be. That roar,
that color, that energy. It became the blueprint for LAFC
and now for San Diego. But what about the other
side of that story, the originals themselves, the ones who

(10:14):
built the culture Tom was trying to recreate.

Speaker 1 (10:18):
Well, let's hear from.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
One of them, Fernando Nando Mancillo, a founding member of
the Timbers Army one O seven.

Speaker 4 (10:32):
My name is Fernando Machicato.

Speaker 5 (10:34):
I am part of the Gamde operations and a merch
team for the.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
One O sevenists.

Speaker 5 (10:39):
So the one of Sevenists is the overarching administrative organization
for both the Timbers Army and the ro City Riveters.

Speaker 2 (10:46):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (10:46):
It's basically the team that manages like the facilities.

Speaker 10 (10:50):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (10:51):
You know, a lot of thed miministrative duties for our
supporters groups.

Speaker 5 (10:55):
We have a lot of I guess subgroups, but overall,
like everyone's Timbers are army, right, everybody has their own crews.

Speaker 4 (11:02):
Or their own groups of folks.

Speaker 5 (11:05):
I think like we've done a pretty good job of
trying to incorporate everybody's opinions on what football culture is.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
When I first started going.

Speaker 5 (11:13):
To matches and joining the Termers' Army, it was very
English centric because the majority of folks were from like
punk rock origins or we're actually from England most of
the chance, we're very English based. A little by little,
you know, we started bringing in like additional flags, banners,
different songs, and you know, now I think we're like
an allegamation of what our community is. You know, we

(11:34):
have flags, we have tifo, we have songs in Spanish,
and we try to be as original as possible, you know,
but it's hard sometimes, you know. The terms Armies always
had a very combatic relationship with both the Timbers front
office as well as the MLS. You know, we've had
situations where we had gone to battle. One of them
was a Kascadia Cup where the MLS trademark Kesscadia Cup

(11:57):
in Canada, so cascadea Cup is a rivalry cup between Portland,
Seattle and Vancouver.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
We already had trade market in the US.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
We found out MLS was trying to monetize it, so
we had to go and meet with ML's front office again,
you know, with Don Garber's second in command, to fight
over the trademark for that. The other one was the
iron front symbol. They felt it was political, We felt
it wasn't. We were able to get a league wide.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Supporters I guess fight to fly that flag.

Speaker 5 (12:37):
We were able to rewrite the code of conduct along
with the independent Supporters Council, So that was another battle
we had to settle with the front office. So I mean,
we've had tons of battles with both our front office
and the actual league itself.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
We have a whole community outreach team and.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
Our goal is to use like all our merch sales
and everything we raised money, it goes you know, to
pay for TIFO drums, all the game day activities, but
a lot of it also goes to community outreach. And
what we do is we try to work with a
communities that need our assistance, you know, whether it's like

(13:15):
a refugees ALDDBQ.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Organizations.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
You know, we're trying to be as supportive as possible
of the folks that to need that support. At the
same time, we also have two different nonprofits that will
form One the Cell Caurier Scholarship Fund. That's a charity
where we take donations to provide scholarships for kids that
can't afford to play club soccer or any level of soccer.

(13:42):
We sponsored a few kids that are part of the
Tumors Academy that didn't have the funds to join because
there is like still pay to play.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
In the US.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
The other one is a Operation Pitch Invasion, which I'm
the executive director. What we do is we build futsal
fields in soccer fields in the Portland met your area.
We also do capital improvements, so we'll take donations to
fix the pitch fix goals and then we do volunteer
days where we go and clean up pitches all around

(14:12):
the metro area.

Speaker 4 (14:15):
I think for me for them to.

Speaker 5 (14:16):
Be successful be to create an umbrella orization where each
group has a representative and then have those folks be
the leadership or the voice with the front office. There
should be one group that has more say with the
front office than in others, right, and then you're causing
tons of friction. So yeah, I create an unblogged group
with a leader from each each supporter's group, figure out

(14:38):
how you we communicate what is more important to you
to your groups, and then figure out how to work
with your front office and advocate for what you need.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Right.

Speaker 5 (14:48):
You know, there has to be unified voice within your
your leadership team.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So that was the proof of concept for Tumpin and
San Diego Web see turbo charging support culture at Snapdragon
and while has it worked even on the road, the
Frontata as D elements make every ground sound like we
are at home. Maybe that's why as dfc own the
best away record in the league. I mean they have
set a record six straight and counting. After the break,

(15:16):
we're gonna head into that north stand at Snapdragon to
feel that in Rhia the match day energy and we're
gonna be joined by Fronteta as the member Matt Boost
Stay with.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Us cooling break coming up.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
We've talked about the blueprint Portland LAFC and how San
Diego wanted to turbo charge their supporter culture. What does
it actually feel like on match day a Snapdragon For
those on the outside, you haven't felt it, It's been
pretty special and to find out, we went along to
the tailgate and then into the North End for you
with from Data SD, the songs, the flags, the drums,

(16:08):
the chance, the energy that makes Snapdragon come to life.
And this was at the Houston game in early July,
and this is not what we heard, what we felt.

Speaker 6 (16:23):
My name is Matt Boose and I am the president
RIPTIDES and also a union board member. I think the
community that has put their heart and soul in to
create a North End vibe, they are very much alive
and spirited in this tailgate. I really think that everybody

(16:45):
really came together and it's just harmonizing, happy fun and
I can't say it enough. It shows in the stadium.
Our section is bar no on top notch. You can't
get better than that with only eleven games under our belt.

Speaker 10 (17:02):
My name is Vanessa Vejrano.

Speaker 11 (17:04):
I am part of RIPTIDES and I am the vice
president of Fronteta is, the Frontea is, the is the
supporters Union which takes the seven supporter groups under one academy.
So shortly I will be heading inside of the stadium
to get in our drums and flags and.

Speaker 10 (17:25):
To set up everything before game time.

Speaker 11 (17:28):
Make sure everybody has the right amount of space that
they need when drumming, because we do have some of
those big drums that need space for people to kind
of swing their arm out to hit. So I'll be
helping with that set up and that's what I do
game day, all right, man dress, So I am president

(17:48):
of JAVA, so I'm not all of the women's supportershup
that we have out right now.

Speaker 1 (17:56):
I missed the three band among the way from all of.

Speaker 10 (17:59):
It, so the noise by it's really goods Tonight.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
There is the opening whistle Man.

Speaker 12 (18:09):
The first ever MLS contest between the Dynamo and MLS's
newest expansion club, San Diego FC is underway with the
Orange Crutch Malacara try to knock it down, Lunch.

Speaker 1 (18:21):
Gay God Cute.

Speaker 12 (18:27):
In San DIEGOFC taking a one nil lead and a
full sprint here from Anali heading it into space. Anali
hitch first and elastic season.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
What a reply from Houston.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
It's one one.

Speaker 12 (18:42):
This go Ba holds it down thirty five yards out,
goes in between a couple of San Diego players.

Speaker 10 (18:47):
Hood it far side.

Speaker 9 (18:48):
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 (18:49):
From the glass?

Speaker 12 (18:50):
Cobar Godosso And the timing couldn't be more perfect, just
before the half out of the momentum.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
For San Diego FC here at.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Home, just a unbelievable strike from Frank Escobar to one.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
My name is Vennesolikaa. I know if that first goal
was it was good for us. It's electrifying. That's what
we want to see. That's what we're here to see.

Speaker 11 (19:12):
I know right now the score is not what we
want to see.

Speaker 10 (19:15):
But but we're also gonna keep with the energy because
we give them life and they give us life.

Speaker 11 (19:21):
So we're gonna give and give and they're gonna take
the energy they need to.

Speaker 10 (19:24):
Score that next goal for us, starting our chance up
right now. That seems amount to hit the pitch again
and we're gonna keep going. There's no slowing down front.

Speaker 12 (19:33):
Now.

Speaker 6 (19:34):
Who's we let a couple easy good in shouldn't have happened.
But I really have faith in our guys. And they're
gonna come back and score several in our section, kind
of the whole north end.

Speaker 9 (19:46):
We're loud, we're going crazy.

Speaker 2 (19:48):
We're having a million times.

Speaker 12 (19:51):
Tackled away by the Argentine outside back.

Speaker 9 (19:55):
And there's the final whistle.

Speaker 12 (19:57):
Look at the celebration from the Houston play.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Now we might have lost that game, but more importantly,
that was the sound of Frontea in full voice, Bacon
color noise, even on a tough night. One of the
voices you heard in that package was Matt Boost. He's
the president of the Rip Tides and theta as the
board member, and he joins us now to talk about
the state of San Diego's supporter culture. Welcome Matt, and

(20:26):
first and foremost, and I know I speak for Darren,
for our whole broadcast crew, for Gatia as well.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Edmano. You guys are doing brilliant this season.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
Thank you so much, and thank you so much for
having me on.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
When Fernando described the Timbers Army, he talked about that,
you know, just that spirit and how the chance evolved
from English styles to something uniquely Portland. What about here,
How do your songs and chants in the creation of
all of them make them uniquely San Diego.

Speaker 6 (20:54):
Yeah, I should say in the beginning was next bag
of English chance South American chants to Mexican chants.

Speaker 9 (21:03):
But really, I think.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
The roots of all of our chants really developed from
South America, and a lot of the songs we have
was created out of let's say, like river Plate type
of songs and all the Boca Junior, those types of sounds,
those rhythms, those beats that they produce, and you know,
they just uniquely made it us.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
I think on behind the flow, we've caught a lot
of what was going on in the build up with
seb Morua trying to kind of keep you guys from
choking each other those first couple of days. And speaking
of that, it's kind of like in politics, right, you
got one side of the aisle versus the other side.
How do you guys balance the democracy and the unity?
And you know, to kind of give you an example,

(21:45):
we saw what Dago boys were like at the beginning.
Also with you guys in riptides and all of that,
how that was all playing out, How has it changed,
how much has it changed? And again back to the
main point, balancing democracy and the unity.

Speaker 6 (21:58):
The thing that kind of brought us together is creating
the union, getting a brand, getting a name that we
can unify behind front Eta SD And even you know,
the name was a little rough around the edges at first.
I can't say the other name, but we had a
name before even Fronteta came to fruition. We finally had
the board, We had a SG Council, which comprises of

(22:23):
two leaders from each supporter group voicing their opinion to
the board, and all of that matched in together.

Speaker 9 (22:31):
And it's been some heated.

Speaker 6 (22:33):
Conversations, but it's been a lot of compromise, and today
I can really truly honestly say, you know, we're working
together so well.

Speaker 9 (22:42):
We're we're saying.

Speaker 6 (22:44):
Like, hey, I got an idea, and then we bring
it to the board, we bring it to the council,
and we discussed it. And sometimes it's a flat out
like nah, I don't like this by several different sg's
and leaders, and we discussed it further.

Speaker 9 (22:59):
And sometimes there's compromises.

Speaker 6 (23:01):
A lot of times actually it's unanimous and we're just like, yeah,
let's move this thing forward and let's make it happen.

Speaker 9 (23:07):
So it's come.

Speaker 6 (23:08):
A long long way in a very very very short
period of time.

Speaker 8 (23:13):
What do you think the role is of a supporters
group for a club? This will change obviously group by
group and sometimes club by club. But of course you
want to be there, you want to be loud, you
want to get everybody cheering and supportive, et cetera. But
I wonder what else you think comes with the responsibilities
of being an official supporters group.

Speaker 9 (23:30):
Yeah, that's loaded, Darren.

Speaker 6 (23:32):
I think we are there in the stadium to provide
the energy. Coach Mikey has done such an amazing job
of embracing us into that family, integrating us into that family.
We get to sit down with him one on one
and he talks about what's going on behind the scenes
with them, what he's looking to do, why he's looking
to do it, and you know, we give him the

(23:53):
hard questions and he fires back with just the most perfect, eloquent,
beautiful way to give us that more of the ghanas,
more of the heart too, to really just move forward
with what we're doing and supporting the team. So it's
very organic, Dan, to answer your question, but also it's evolving.

Speaker 10 (24:15):
Which I saw it at Petco Park and that rivalry
beat LA against the Dodgers, hotter than ever, how does
that translate now into the MLS soccer world. We already
saw the La Galaxy games, the LFC game in San Diego.
How do you guys are just like vibing in that rivalry?
How is it growing? Do you feel it more towards

(24:37):
l Galaxy, more towards LEFC? How is that process?

Speaker 9 (24:40):
Great questions.

Speaker 6 (24:41):
I think it's filling over from Dodgers into Padres, filling
over it from both teams. I really think that it's
a cool thing. Definitely, there's some heated banter conversations in
stands outside the stadium, you know, in the stadium and

(25:02):
stuff like that. We have done such a great job
post La Galaxy game here at home and at SNAP
to really shift things and kind of explain to people
why this isn't a part of our culture here in
San Diego. But I mean, really, it can't be a
part of the culture per MLS, So it's kind of

(25:24):
a mix thing there. But really coming back to the vibe,
the energy, oh man.

Speaker 9 (25:30):
It's undescribable.

Speaker 6 (25:34):
You know, definitely you'll never have a game again like
the going up to Carson game, that energy we felt
that day.

Speaker 9 (25:41):
But man, I'm hyped.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
I am hyped for this weekend when we go up
to La again to play LAFC and we have six
hundred people traveling up there nice and we're bringing it.

Speaker 9 (25:54):
We're bringing it.

Speaker 6 (25:55):
It's an energy that I think front that knows the responsibility.
We know what we have to do, and we will
be ten times louder than thirty two to fifty two.

Speaker 8 (26:09):
I just want to know what kind of work out
this is after ninety minutes. You know, anybody wearing an
Apple watch in the supporter section here? How many calories
y'all burning there at night?

Speaker 9 (26:17):
I do so I can't say.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
I don't think I've ever not been on the capito
stand for at least one half. My average is around
two thousand some odd calories just on a day. But
when I get home from a match, when I'm on
the kepo stand the whole game, I'm at like four
and a half to five thousand.

Speaker 9 (26:38):
Calories up and down there. So we're moving, we're grooving.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
You're going to get a whole new group of people
and they're like, wait a minute, what we're burning calories?

Speaker 1 (26:47):
Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 10 (26:47):
You're gonna be hey, guys, join the movement and lose
some weight exactly.

Speaker 8 (26:52):
Join the movement, cancel that gym membership, just come to
come to the stands.

Speaker 6 (26:56):
Just don't come to the tailgate, because that's where you
put all calories.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
First, and then then it works.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
Then it works, you put the calories saying during that
you break even, it all burns off.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
Yep, you break even at the end out the night.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
All right, Well, thank you so much again, Matt, And
we're gonna catch our breath right now.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Have our little Apple watches going? Did I just do
an advertisement? Anyway?

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Coming up after the break, we're taking all things l
A f C at San Diego get ready for the derby.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Oh boy, but they bought in.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
Say we're gonna hear from Luca Bombino, who came through
the LA f C Academy and now faces of his
parent clubs.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
Stay with us. We're gonna talk about that and so
much more on the way back.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
And we're back and l A f C is next up,
and that beat l A Spirit is still alive we
just heard from. I'm just hoping that they can kind
of switch that chant. The bat La is kind of
like it goes back to Boston doing it to the Lakers,
and then obviously at pet Co with the Dodgers and
the Padres.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I want to hear something fresh, but I'm good with
the vibe and the spirit. As we just heard from Matt,
guys if the passion comes with challenges as well. Supporter
culture has that wild with wild and crazy guys. Yes,
the uncontrollable edge, and that's part of what makes it special.
But there's also a limit and clubs and supporters have
to work together to.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Keep it safe.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
And Darren, you've been around San Diego for many, many years.
He talked about transplants coming in and making San Diego
part of their family, and the San Diego family makes
you part of San Diego. You're a perfect example. You know,
the fiery supporter culture. You've been part of it. From
your perspective, what's the balance and how do you keep
that passion alive without crossing any lines?

Speaker 8 (28:53):
Number One, thank you for saying what you said about
the bat La Champ. It's not ours. It's just it's
not ours. I know what happens and just out into
the wind on this one. But I could do without
ever listening to that again not being said though you know,
I actually am going to go back to something that
I heard Mikey Vada say about the supporters, and that
is that they are family, and sometimes family messes up,

(29:15):
sometimes family makes mistakes, and I thought he handled some
of the stuff that we talked about a little bit
earlier or in previous episodes with the Galaxy game. He said, Listen,
every once in a while, we got to let family
know that they crossed the line, but we still love them.
They're still part of our family.

Speaker 1 (29:31):
Listen.

Speaker 8 (29:31):
We've all seen enough videos in our lives, no matter
what the sport of San Diego fans in La fans
brawling in parking lots and seats and all that sort
of stuff that I'm not naive enough to think it's
ever going to change. But you know, I also do
think this is an opportunity to truly feel like with
a different sport now, to say like, no, we're not
going to deal with all that, all your history. We've

(29:53):
got a real opportunity here to catch up a lot
quicker than we might in some of the other sports.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
And it's been absolutely Beautif you've covered MLS across the country,
and I'm willing to guess what happened to you being
born and raised right there as a border kid San
Diego and Tijuana. After everything that you've seen across Major
League Soccer, Important La Seattle, some of the best fan
bases you can find on Earth, and yet you see
at the speed of which San Diego FC have created

(30:20):
from Teta ASD and you hear the chance. I'm sure
at some point a tear must have escaped your eye
when you felt the vibe of what Fronteta is the
is doing.

Speaker 10 (30:29):
Oh, definitely seeing it come to life, and it reminds
me when Scholos was born in Tijuana and I got
to experience it as well. I was in high school
and we'd been waiting because I used to play soccer
back in the day, and we'd been waiting to have
a professional soccer team in the region. So when Cholos
came about, and just going to those first scrimmage games

(30:50):
when Pumas was in town, Atlas was in town, and
then they were facing Sholos and seeing, you know, from
the ground up, how they built the stadium, how the
fans showed up for the team, And now it's happening
in that same fashion when it comes to San Diego,
and what I love about it, and that's what I
felt made the Shuls experience so special. And I think

(31:10):
it's happening now when it comes to SDFC, not only
because it's a deep rooted passion that it's influenced by
the diversity that we see in the city and the
fan base, but now because of that diversity and people
from all over coming together, now they have a shared
identity and it was a big void that was missing
after the Chargers left the city, so I feel now

(31:32):
everyone was hungry to be together again. And when it
comes to the soccer culture, because there's always a soccer
event happening in San Diego, whether it's grassroots tournaments to
professional matches, the city's soccer scene is vibrant and that
makes it very very special.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
But of course there's so much that comes with San
Diego FC, san Diego Sports versus LA and LAFC in
this case, so many storylines guys that we're going to
be building and talking about during game time. Darren and
I and got there. You'll be covering the match. But
there's another storyline here, a kid playing lights out right

(32:08):
now who came through the LAFC academy and is now
heading back home, and I say that, you know, loosely
heading back home to his parent club to face them
for the first time ever. It's young Luca Boombino, as
we like to call him. There's Killini, there's Maldini. We
have Boombini.

Speaker 7 (32:29):
When we play within our principles and we stick to
our style of play, we're a tough team to play against,
you know. So I'm confident going into LA and I'm
looking forward to getting the job done. In these last
six months, I've really felt welcomed, and more so recently
at home in San Diego. So I'll be going and
seeing some friendly faces, small friends, But I'm there to compete.

(32:50):
Football's a business, you know, So I'm going to go
and give everything I have for the colors I love
to play for. We definitely see it as a chance
to go and get a victory for our fans. I
think if you don't see it as that, then you're
not in the right sport.

Speaker 1 (33:03):
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
We're definitely up for the game. We know it's huge,
not just for our season, but for our fan culture.
We always want three points. We always want to go
home with a win, and the fans do too.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
You know.

Speaker 7 (33:13):
We can feel that reflected on the field from the stands,
even when we're not playing. You know, the fans have
always been very vocal with their support, and it's easy
to play when you have a twelfth man, you know,
and I think the fans are exactly that. Favorite moment,
I would say the home game against Galaxy with the
late winner, with the conditions of the game it was

(33:34):
hot mid day, the tension and the rivalry on the field,
off the field with the fans, you could really feel
that reflected with every chant, with every big play that happened. Yeah, emotionally,
that was probably our biggest game. And you know the
way it ended too, with Chooky's header was you know, poetic.
It was a great moment for the team and for

(33:56):
the fans especially. Yeah, that was probably the biggest moment before.
The fans support is everything to us. But we can
feel it on the field, we can feel it from
the training pitch. The entire community is woven into this team,
and their presence alone and their belief in our team,
in our community and our style of play pushes us

(34:17):
forward harder than our bodies too, you know. So I
really want to thank the support from the fans, from
the medical staff, from everybody in this community who represents
what San Diego really is, the tight knit community of
diverse backgrounds, all pushing towards the same common goal, and
that's victory. The heads of the supporters groups came into
the training facility a while ago. We got to speak

(34:38):
with them, and you know, we loved interacting with them,
just because they represent such a big community of people
who love San Diego, love the team, love what we're
playing for, how we're playing for it. All those people
are so great just in the way they're uniting the
fan bases and rallying everybody behind the common goal. We

(34:59):
love to support you, guys, give us and we try
to emulate everything you give from the stands on the field.
So keep it up and we'll keep it up for you, guys.

Speaker 1 (35:06):
You know.

Speaker 2 (35:10):
What a story from LAFC Academy graduate to San Diego Zona,
now heading back to BEMO Stadium with everything on the line. Guys,
you can hear the pride in his voice right there,
not just in how we talked about football, but about
the fans, the culture, the way he feels at home here.
Darren Smith, and you've seen him, you've talked to him.
I know, we love the kid, Luca Bombino. What do

(35:31):
you make of him stepping into this moment? And a
quick reminder, he's only what eighteen years old going on
nineteen in gravely.

Speaker 8 (35:39):
Yeah, just turn nineteen. As a matter of fact, he's
you know, he's getting up there, and you know, I mean,
I just think the thing about Luca Bombino is it
is truly one of the more unexpected stories.

Speaker 4 (35:50):
But maybe that's on us.

Speaker 8 (35:51):
Maybe in a way, what Luca Bombino represents, it's exactly
the future of SDFC, not just in terms of him
being able to grow in and be I'm a twenty
year old or a twenty one year old for this club,
but the club giving somebody an opportunity like what they've
done here. You know, not everybody would do this for
an eighteen year old. Now he's playing ninety minutes almost

(36:11):
every single match. Now we're starting to see him get
a little bit of attention from European clubs. They're starting
to sniff around a little.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Bit on him.

Speaker 8 (36:18):
He's getting opportunities with the US under twenties. So you know,
maybe in a way this is a snapshot for as
good as Anders Dryer has been for as good as
Yeppe has been and Chooky and everybody else, maybe in fact,
this is actually the snapshot of what sdfc's future looks like.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
In Luca Bombino and goddamn for a teenager he fires
up snap Dragon Stadium on several occasions he's done this season.
But to Darren's point, this is building towards the future.
We're getting a glimpsees to house San Diego FC is
going to operate.

Speaker 10 (36:49):
And one of the things that he said that really
stood out to me, it's exactly that I really felt
welcomed more at home in San Diego than anywhere else,
and that shows on the field his game and now
not seeing him like as part of that lineup or
him not being there, it's a surprise. You're like, where's Luca?
Why is Luca not available? Or we can't imagine right

(37:10):
now that lineup without Luca, And that just shows how
important and how a vital part of the whole system
he is now and just part of this whole Right
to Dream Academy, the style of play, the ideology of
what this club is going to be all about.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
So San Diego FC heading up to face LAFC at
clash already shaping into the club's fiercest rivalry. LAFC just
shattered the MLS transfer record to bring in global superstar
Filming Son. His arrival has kind of flipped the script.

Speaker 9 (37:44):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
His jersey is now the best selling athletic jersey on Earth,
out selling Messy, out selling that one guy in LA
that maybe he should go back to Cleveland Lebron. I'm
just speaking for some Laker fans in the area. On
the pitch, the threats are everywhere with all of that drama.
Son's blockbuster or rival, this Derby heat, what stands out

(38:04):
to you going into this matchup?

Speaker 10 (38:06):
I got to talk to Son after his official presentation
with the club. He is a great guy, very charismatic.
I mean, we know, of course his pedigree and what
he's done in Europe and now he's starting this new
chapter in MLS. But when we focus on lafc's play
this game against San Diego, it's gonna be Sun's home
debut because they had three road games, So for LAFC

(38:31):
fans that's going to be special. So it's going to
be electric, and then we add the rivalry layer to
it all, it's going to be an amazing game, an
amazing atmosphere, just a summer night in La at Bemo Stadium.
I'm looking forward to being there this Sunday.

Speaker 2 (38:46):
It's going to be absolute fire at Studio thirty two
fifty two Beimo Stadium this weekend. So now it's time
to predict things. I have a feeling like Bombino could
be an X factor kind of just if Son's going
to be hyped up by the fact that this is
his first home game, I think, look up, Bombino and
Sanday Webc are going to also have their own energy
to deal with. So stick your next down. I'm gonna

(39:07):
start with you, Darren Smith. Since you were able to
nail down your prediction in the Portland game, what's your
prediction for this match?

Speaker 8 (39:16):
Yeah, well, listen, this is going to be a cauldron,
isn't it on Sunday night. It's a late game too,
It's like almost eight o'clock. It's a holiday weekends. I
just think the way the club is performed on the road,
I think that you can use that energy a little
bit against LAFC because there's going to be so much
pressure on them to perform and they're coming off the
road that maybe SDFC can use that to their advantage.

(39:39):
So I'm gonna say it's gonna be another one.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Of these like late dramatic.

Speaker 8 (39:42):
You know, all the goals scored second half, all the
goals scored in stoppage time. We haven't seen a lot
of high scoring matches here. But I'm going to go
to one SDFC and the road street continues and extends
to seven.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
WHOA, all right, got you.

Speaker 10 (39:55):
It's a tough one. You're not gonna like my prediction because,
oh no, they already clinched the playoffs. And even though
Mikey Vadas when he was asked if he was going
to arrest some of the players, he's resounding answer was
absolutely not, because they're competitors and we know they still
want more points, they still want more records. I also

(40:16):
cover LAFC a lot. I know the players were really
not happy and hurt after that result in San Diego,
so they are coming out with the vengeance because they
want to protect their home field. But I feel like
it's gonna be an LAFC. So then it's going to
be a series tied in this season to make things
more exciting for the future. When it comes to the rivalry.

(40:39):
So I'm going to say to.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
One LAFC all right, so you well, okay, then I'm
going to balance things again.

Speaker 1 (40:45):
Let's go no, no, not get two, one three to.

Speaker 2 (40:48):
Two San Diego FC Louca Bombino drops in a head
or at the last second, just to fire everybody up
and remind LAFC what they let go?

Speaker 1 (40:55):
All right? I like that that.

Speaker 8 (40:57):
I like too what Mikey had to say afterwards. Did
you guys catch the clip that was posted on social
media of Mikey addressing the club afterwards and shared love
the phrase that he used, and forgive my Spanish here
he oughta k now what you've done? That came now
what now? What are you gonna do? And I love
that from him the way he said that. Oh man,
I was ready to go as soon as I saw

(41:19):
that clip.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
Mikey's words fire us up in such a philosophical sun
soup kind of way. The guy gets us ready for battle.
And yes, that is part of the art of war.
It's all in the preparation and the mentality. And guys,
we're preparing for next time we're gonna be talking about goals.
Who's really carrying the load now, is it? Down to
one superstar or is this a collective of solutions?

Speaker 1 (41:41):
And who steps up next?

Speaker 2 (41:43):
We're gonna break it all down as we explore San
Diego's search for Gaulis that'll do it for Behind the
Flow this week, a big thank you to Matt Boose,
Bernando lou Cup Bombino and of course Tom penn Ah.
It's gonna be fire guys. Thank you very much as always,
got Dan Darren. I know you guys are ready to go.

(42:04):
Let's go, Let's go.

Speaker 8 (42:05):
I want to yeah, Oh yeah, I mean jump FORESTI
Football Club, Olaola boy, got it.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
It's gonna be Yeah, It's gonna be foigo. So see
you everyone on Sunday at BMO seven forty five pm
Pacific time. They announced that the official kickoff time for
the game, So see you there.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
As the greatest poet ever given to us by the
City of Los Angeles by way of Florida Fire. Yes
that's right, Jim Morrison. Thank you guys for listening. You
bring the fire Ladies and gentlemen. All of you that
follows San Diego FC, don't forget to follow the podcast
wherever you get your shows and join us every week
as we write out this incredible inaugural season. I'm out there,

(42:44):
Garcia Marquis, you've been dipped in krominasuli
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