October 23, 2025 • 41 mins
Right to Dream has built a global reputation for developing not just footballers, but leaders — from its academies in Ghana, Denmark, and Egypt to its newest home in the United States.
Fresh from a 4–0 win away to Portland that sealed top spot in the West, Behind the Flow shifts focus from the players making headlines to the ones who could follow in their footsteps.
Adrian García-Márquez and Darren Smith go inside San Diego FC’s new academy — the first fully residential, scholarship-based program in Major League Soccer — to explore how the Right to Dream philosophy is being brought to life in North America.
We hear from Head of Academy Football John McGuigan and Head of School Rachelle Minix on the balance between football, academics, and character — plus the international team of coaches shaping how the next generation of American players will grow.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the grand opening of scsc's Right to Dream ACHA.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Right to Dream in Major League Soccer is the story.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We have one of the best performance centers, not only
in America, I think one of the best in the world.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
It's just like a privilege to be here. There's the
best players I've seen, and it's just very fun.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
This is Behind the Flow, the podcast where we dive, indeed,
week by week into the heart of San Diego Epsey's
very first season in Major League Soccer. In football, it's
easy to chase results, the next win, the next trophy.
But at a Right to Dream Club, the real story
begins long before the building futures, shaping lives and helping
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young players dream bigger. This week we go insick San
Diego Epsey's Right to Dream Academy, fresh off of its
official opening, to hear how SDFC is building a new
pathway in North America. We hear from head of Academy Football,
John mcgwigan.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
The boys wake around six six point fifteen and at
around seven am they meet up the walkout areas they
put the cuts on. They hear a really short explanation
from the coaches.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Using the TV.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
What they can expect when they.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Go on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Then we learn how these young student athletes are supported
as they step into the unknown with Head of School
Rashelle Minnix.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Working with these young people is an absolute joy. They
are infectiously energetic, they're enthusiastic about learning, their enthusiastic about honestly,
every single thing that they do.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
And because we love giving you the behind the scenes scoop,
we're a fly on the wall as the staff assesses
their first class of student athletes at Hogwarts.
Speaker 9 (01:54):
So today we'll be working on attacking of the non
body posician to receive first thoughts?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And how will the niners read prayer?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
How is this model different, how will it work in
the US, And how do you prepare young people not
only to become great players, but great humans. That's all
coming up. Don't move, I'm Adrian, gotta see a markis
welcome to behind the Flow. Got Castorina can't be here
this week. She's always busy, but I'm always joined my
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copiloton wingman.
Speaker 10 (02:33):
They say what they said, Darren Smith.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Now this episode we're looking to the future, but honestly
the present is on fire. Yes, Decision Day, San Diego
Efci did it just show up?
Speaker 10 (02:46):
They blew the doors off four nil in Portland.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
That sealed the first place in the West, nineteen wins,
sixty three points and a ticket to the twenty twenty
six con Cuckoff Champions Cup.
Speaker 10 (03:02):
The stuff of dreams.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yes, guesswinga at your ready. Dada embraces from the dam
bump bump, Bumpaletero Anders Dryer amal Pellegrino.
Speaker 10 (03:13):
History being made on the road. What a night.
Speaker 11 (03:16):
We're underway visiting San Diego in white Bombino for Bamacati
Bombino those under twenties and.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
Chile in there.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
It gets all the way through for Pellegrino a half molly,
it goes over Kelsey.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
It's a cost down misheait. Dryer in his sweet spot
gets it for Pellegrina.
Speaker 11 (03:39):
Pellegrino loving life in San Diego, San.
Speaker 10 (03:44):
Diego, picking up where they left off. Pellegrino, tryer hitting.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Amily stores, God loss all, tryer one on one.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
Here's back chick alicious. I just tryer city the FC.
It blowed the roof off. Now they're turnover out of
the back of the goalkeeper.
Speaker 12 (04:06):
Good now matches Dryers contribution.
Speaker 10 (04:11):
He is loving it if he wasn't loving it already.
What a moment.
Speaker 13 (04:17):
It almost felt like we had two wins. We had
the four nil blasting of Portland. Timbers just battered them
all night long, left them scratching their heads. Their fans
were soaking wet the pouring rain. But then also afterwards
watching this group huddled around a cell phone waiting to
see what it was that was happening in Vancouver, because
with the win for SDFC and Vancouver's loss on top
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of the Western Conference, the number one seed home field
advantage throughout the MLS Cup playoffs goes through Snapdragon Stadium.
What a moment, Like an indelible image of success from
twenty twenty five, and.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You can sense that the team understood the assignment from
the minute that the ball was kicked. And how special
was the vibe in Downtown's and diegu in particular from
from downtown Horton, Plaseg, you name, Oh, I'm gonna, oh,
here we go, Hacksaw, San Diego, downtown term Peril, Big Sandy.
Speaker 10 (05:09):
Everybody was fired up for San Diego WEFC.
Speaker 13 (05:12):
Everybody was fired up, and it was it was such
a there was such a level of anticipation for this
match for Decision Day twenty twenty five, that the club
had to host multiple viewing parties from North County all
the way down to Third Avenue and Tula Vista and
everywhere in between. I mean, I have not even yet
as of the time of this recording, been able to
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catch up on all the social media posts from so
many of the supporters packed into the restaurants, packed into
the bars, celebrating out into the streets. But it's great
to see, right because it's all about the civic pride,
and it does make you jealous. Listen, you and I
we love being there, We love being part of the booth,
we love being in front of the action. But there
is a tiny little piece of you that goes that
looks like a lot of fun watching what it is
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that's happening up and down Third Avenue in tu La Vista.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Absolutely, and it's and it's just so much fun to
watch feel And it's just getting started. The playoffs start
snap Dragon Stadium Sunday, October twenty sixth, six thirty pm.
First ever playoff performance for San Diego FC.
Speaker 10 (06:12):
It's gonna beautiful.
Speaker 13 (06:13):
Do you think the Murph Dragon is going to be
a little loud and a little fired up. Based on
everything that we've seen in twenty twenty five, I have
a feeling a Sunday night at six thirty, people are
gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's so fun to watch it, and we know how
San Diego is so hungry for a winner, for a
great performer. The energy in this city is just absolutely special.
Speaker 13 (06:34):
San Diego has got an appetite like there is a real,
real thirst for success, for winning here in this market.
And it didn't happen like you said for the Podres.
So now people are really doubling down on their desire
to see something great happen here with Santego Football Club.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So from these young players, we're gonna get even younger
players as the topic here because we're turning our attention
to the club's youth academies and a milestone moment for
San Diego FC. On September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five,
the Right to Dream Academy in San Diego in San
Diego officially opened its doors, marking another exciting chapter in
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this club's already record breaking first year.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
All the heavy hitters were there that day.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You'll first hear from CEO Tom Penn announcing the grand opening,
and then you're gonna hear from Mohammed Mansour who's dream
of an academy in San Diego has finally been realized
and it's.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Got to be magic for him. You saw that look
in his eye.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And finally MLS Commissioner Don Garber calling the project a
game changer for youth development in Major League Soccer.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Welcome to the grand opening of scfc's Rights and Dream mchaf.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
With those words, CEO Tom Penn may have changed US
soccer history. An essential part of sdfc's plan, the Right
to Dream Academy is designed to bring soccer players from
Southern California, Mexico and beyond into an environment where they
can thrive well.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is our commitment to youth development, so Right to
Dream gives opportunities for kids from all backgrounds. The best
of the best come into a residential academy on our
campus out in Alcohoone. We had our grand opening just
last Friday, and we had Sir Mohammad Mansour, our owner,
in along with Sequan and the commissioner. The kids gave
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a tour of their classrooms, you know they live on campus.
These are sixth and seventh graders, the best of the best.
There's the commissioner, he just loved it. We introduced the
players alongside the first team Mikey Varies spoke. We hosted
an amazing foundational event where we took the first ever
first team First Academy photo together, which was just magnificent.
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So it was one of the best days in club history.
Speaker 14 (08:56):
Just such anatol event.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Man, what comes the kids out there?
Speaker 15 (09:01):
What feelings did I give is?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm very passionate about it and it was so touched
to see the young players. The first class of the
Right to Dream Academy, which was a dream of mine,
dream of the Monsieur family, dream of the Secum tribe
to be actually here and inexistence. We cut the ribbon
in May of twenty twenty three. It was just the
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Sequng land here and today we have one of the
best performance centers, not only in America, I think one
of the best in the world. And this is our
belief and our betting on.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
The future of football. You're in Centieco. This is unique.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's part of a global program with Right to Dream
and thinking about developing players but it's as important to
develop great young men. You know. I sat at dinner
with a company the alumni. These guys are impressive, you know,
and they played in college. None of the three guys
that met last night played professionally, but they are different.
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Their lives have been changed by Right to Dream. So
for me, having Right to Dream in Major League Soccer
is the story. Do you see a future where Right
to Dream expands with other MOLS clubs? So I think
if it can be figured out, I'd like to see that.
I don't know how. You know, we have this unique
structure where our teams have exclusivity around their own room territories.
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But you know, it almost seems to be too valuable
to be limited to one market. But you know, their
visionary guys, We're a visionary leave. Maybe there's ways for
us to think about, you know, broader engagement, broader programming.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
So there it is San Diego E Fsey's Right to
Dream Academy officially open, the first fully residential, scholarship based
youth academy in Major League Soccer, and judging by what
we heard from Tumpen, Mohammed Mansour, and Don Garber, the
rest of the league is definitely taking notice historic, world
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class and a real game changer for US soccer and Darren.
When you hear that kind of language, it tells you
this project is a little bit more than just about
building plays.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
This is about building When I spects on this.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Oh, Adrian, the scale of this is unreal. It's sort
of the kind of thing that you have to see
and experience in person to truly understand it. I remember
CEO Tom Penn did an interview back in twenty twenty
four where he said, what we're trying to do here
is become the IAX Academy of North America. You go, hmm, well,
well what does that mean. Well, listen to how they
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went about their business here. Three thousand kids were assessed
in the last year and a half. We're talking open trials, invitationals,
local club sessions, cross border scouting in Tijuana, and from
all of that, from all of those eyeballs, all of
those sessions, this team selected the first seventeen student athletes.
They're now living, studying right there on property, right there
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on the ground in Alcohol and it's a real pipeline.
One of the drawbacks to youth soccer in the United
States has always been the pay to play barrier, so
that's been removed.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
That's not what this is now.
Speaker 13 (12:09):
This is very much going after people who maybe don't
have the finances to go through all of that nonsense
that's held the production of the sport back.
Speaker 10 (12:18):
We're talking about.
Speaker 13 (12:19):
Five year scholarships purely on potential, and this has just begun.
They're talking about multiple teams, boys and girls, age groups
in the years ahead. So going back to what it
was that Tom had to say about the Ayax Academy,
they have like twelve youth programs there and this is
just the beginning of what this is going to look
like in a couple of years down the road. It's
pretty amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It is amazing, and I'm not going to be surprised
if I hear that each one of these kids that
you talked about, amongst the three thousand that tried out,
maybe had an owl right at their house and drop
off a letter.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
That said you have been invited to.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Hogwarts right to Dream Academy Year one Canidas Uno Bengay.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
Let's hear from the Young Wizards.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I'm Ro McCormick and I play striker.
Speaker 16 (13:07):
My name is Asai Chavis and here in the Right
to Dream Academy. I play left wing.
Speaker 17 (13:12):
My name is Alexander Laughlin and I play center back.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
My name is Roman Espinoza and I am a goalkeeper.
I started playing soccer when I was around three to four.
I kind of got into it, and then, yeah, I
just spent my life ever since I started.
Speaker 16 (13:26):
I started playing soccer when I was about three years old.
I would just like get a bunch of things, like
let's say, water bottles, plant and I would just like
go through like if they were comed.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I joined like this kid's program when I was about three,
but if you count competitive, I'll be playing about four years,
getting to like the last stage. If it feels really
nice and it's just like a privilege to be here.
There's some of the best players I've seen, and it's
just very fun.
Speaker 16 (13:55):
I was very excited when I got here. When they
send me the email I was invited to this camp
or any of the thing they did, I got super excited.
I did not know that I would come this far
in my soccer journey or soccer career.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I'm excited that I got this opportunity, and I understand
that I'm talented I'm gonna try to ease it to
my advantage and I'm gonna try my best to make
the academy. The most important thing I've learned this week
is to have fun and enjoy the time that I have.
Speaker 16 (14:25):
The biggest thing I learned was that keyword integrity. You
gotta have integrity. What it means is do the right
thing even when no one's watching.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I think just learning to play with top competition and
just going away. If I don't make it, then you
can learn from it. But if I do, then I'll
be proud of myself. I think I learned here that
being mature is really important. But before I didn't think
that was that important. I thought it was just football,
nothing else. But I learned that academics, characteristics and football
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are also are really important. The opportunity that I think
I have is to become pro because I'm going to be.
I'll be living here with all these players, and that's
going to like give me the taste of what professional
was really like.
Speaker 16 (15:12):
That would be my dreams. That's what I'm here fighting
for to get a position and the DFC right to
dream Academy live here, be like you know, Botang Tupilosana
one of them. You know, it'd be really cool when
I leave.
Speaker 17 (15:27):
Here, I'm gonna say I put all that I needed
out there. I put everything I got out there, and
whatever experience or whatever happens after is what I deserve
and what pushes me forward. No regrets. I will put
everything on the pitch and I have been.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
To get those They're ready for those who made the cut.
This is just the beginning, a chance to become the
first home grown stars of sd FC. From Derhas to
TQ one and of course right here in the finest city.
After the break, we head inside the ac Adamy to
see what life looks like once the dream becomes real,
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the work, the lessons and the people shaping the footballers
and humans of tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Welcome back.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Nineteen young players made the cut, the very first cohort
of the Right to Dream Academy here in San Diego.
They're an under thirteen group, nine to twelve year olds
stepping into a proving global system, the Right to Dream
methodology that's already shaped young talent in Ghana, Denmark and Egypt.
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It's a model built on philosophy, character and a distinct
style of play, A blueprint that's delivered success all over
the world. In just a minute, you'll actually hear us
in class with the case inside their morning walkout meeting
as the coaches brief them for training. But first to
set the scene, we got up with John mcgwigan, head
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of Academy Football at San Diego FC.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
It feels really nice to get started because we planned
everything for well over a year, like eighteen months to
two years. Think, just like the first team, we had
a long running which is obviously a real positive and
a privilege that you get that amount of time to
plan and get things right. But there's really nothing like
just getting started sometimes, you know, for all the policies
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and procedures and planning that we did, there's a lot
of things that you just learn on the fly too.
There are a few nerves in the staff and definitely
a few nerves with the players and the families. So
it's just really nice to get started. I think for
everybody on the staff, we'll never be in a project
like this. Again. The size and the importance of the
project I think hasn't been lost on anyone, and it's
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just been really cool. So a typical day, if I
take Tuesday, for example, the boys wake around six six
point fifteen, so the residential staff wake them up, and
around six forty they leave the dorms. They make their
way down to the Performance Center, which is a couple
of minute walk across campus, and then it's into the
locker room and we then give them a bit of
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time and space just to get changed and have a snack,
and then around seven am they meet at the walkout area,
So the walkout area they put their cleats on, they
hear like a really short explanation from the coaches using
the TV what they can expect when they go on
the field, So which exercises will they go through, What's
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going to be expected of them on the field. We
sometimes talk about some of the keywords from our style
of play that they can expect to come across during
the session. And then they'll go out and train.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's all about the routine, and we join the coaches
for a morning walkout meeting, the daily huddle where the
players pull on their boots, gather around the screen and
talk through the focus for the session. It's a mix
of tactics, questions and learning the classroom before the field.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
So how are you last yeah, everybody good?
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Yeah, okay, So today we'll be working on attacking.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Got it.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
It will be a progressive session, so we will start
from very simple where we'll start with coach savior our
passing pattern, just focusing on body position to receive first touch.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Okay, passing and continue working on term man and given
those Okay.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Some of the focus for today's sessions will be diamonds
to build up and how do we use the diamonds.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
To break pressure? Okay, So a couple of questions.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
Let's see number one, what is a good value position
to receive evils?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Close for open? Okay?
Speaker 14 (20:16):
Why?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
What does it allow you to see?
Speaker 9 (20:17):
What other three things will want the defender, the defender
go up the space, toto the ball.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Okay, So those.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Are the three things we want to be aware of.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
When is the time to support a teammate and combine
to say that's in defending.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
What about when we're attacking, Jodan.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Any moment that urnal would be want we can support
and get the numerical a bit.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
So when the pressure is rid into my teammate, that
is a moment for me to check in.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Does that make sense? So that will be the challenge
for today.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Is can we recognize the moments for us to gables,
for a teammate to support.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
And combine to help progressively? Got it?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (21:06):
Are we ready?
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Okay, we go on there.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
NICs.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Id's wetome to me first, just hearing John talk about
that morning walk out, the coach is giving a quick
tactical breakdown using the screen to walk the players through
the session, it really struck me, struck all of us
how detailed this program already is daring. I mean, the
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kids are doing the homework and the architecture of the
brain at these ages, this is the perfect time to
embed all.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Of these tactics and thoughts.
Speaker 13 (21:43):
Adrian, we are listening to ten and eleven year olds
talking about principles of play, positional awareness, transitions. Yet it
feels like we have a microphone inside of the Manchester
City dressing room listening to Pep Guardiola. Keep in mind
what we're talking about, and we're only talking about this
being five weeks into its existence already, and we have
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that level of conversation happening with these players. It's hard
to believe what it is and how much further that
you think this is going to go. It's unbelievable, And.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'll tell you, I mean, it's the right to dream
influence right there. Do you hear it in their voices
and already teaching not just the game but the thinking
behind the game. It's structure, philosophy, character. What's interesting to
me to all of us, I think, is that even
with all of that detail, they're not diving into tactics.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Just yet, at least not heavily.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
The focus right now is on the principles, the style
of play, and even the style of player they want
to develop. John explained that idea and how close the
academy already is to the first team.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
We don't go into the tactical side for a little
while yet, so you're here us talking about style of
play and also style of player. So right now it's
about us help the boys to understand the principles of
the style of play. So an example would be that
we like to attract and then play against the pressure.
You'll hear the coaches talking about that a lot. So
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when the other team presses you, regardless of what you've
learned or been taught in the past, we don't just
kick the ball over the pressure. So that would be
a principle is that we stay composed and calm and
we try to play through the pressure instead. And obviously
it's a lot more detailed to it than that, but
that's something new to some of the boys. So we
saw in the recruitment process that we felt like they
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could do that. They're here now, so they're having to
do it every day in training and then in games.
The program, though, is much more technical and principles based
at this age, as opposed to tactical or as opposed
to just winning all the time. We share the cafeteria,
the food space, we share the gym, so there are
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some spaces where the boys every single day will be
around the first team players, which is again just an
amazing environment for them to be around. I think there
are some small things, like our first ever Academy game,
we played Phoenix on the turf just out here, and
the first team trained at the same time that we
played the game. At the same time that we played
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the game. When the first team finished their training session,
there was we were just getting into the second half
and Mikey and his staff came literally just walked across
from or watching the game. So I think that's a
really powerful message to send to the families that we
told you know, there's a genuine pathway to the first team.
The first team are interested in these young boys and
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seeing them grow and eventually play for our first team.
Every now and again, the technical director and Mikey, they
hold like a unit review meeting, so they'll go through
the film from you know, the last three or four
games at first team level, some of the things that
went well, some of the things to work on, and
Kenneth the technical director and Mikey invited the boys to
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sit in on one of those meetings and even participate.
So you have the goalkeepers, for example, are two academy
goalkeepers sitting with the first team goalkeepers and the goalkeeper
coaching staff to go through film together and you ask
questions and land together, which I think is just a
super powerful example of why it's great to be in
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the same place as the first team.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They've got a long way to go, and that's where
the staff comes in.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
The right to dream.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Academy team are pushing themselves every bit as hard as
the players, analyzing, debating, constantly refining how they are going
to teach the game. Later, we sat in on one
of the coaching review meetings to see the process for ourselves.
Going over film from the previous day session, we heard
as dfc's international mix of coaches challenging each other, dissecting details, questioning.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
What works and what doesn't, all.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
To give these kids the best possible foundation.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
The big takeaway from me and this step of stuff
is just a there's stuff, like you said, say, if
you're like Scrough, the pass passing and the wrong both
like they're just miles away from getting right. So whether
it gets simple file or whether you just repeat it
and repeat.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
It and repint it like as soon as possible, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
But there's so much of it that's not right that
it just breaks down all the time.
Speaker 18 (26:20):
I think the one thing that we cannot occur against
it and they need to be there's our focus on
it's for the passing to it is here and so
so in the aligne players.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
But even.
Speaker 19 (26:34):
I actually we have to get away from this. But
we cannot have him running like this. He looks like
someone is on vacation. So that's what I mean. I'm
not the type of shifts. Yeah, yeah, so I'm not.
So if he passed the ball, he cannot he cannot
just jock because some of the exercises should be that
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the next door is coming soon, because that would happen
in the game, especially when they get older. So he
should the only time when he has rests could be
out here. And that's why they don't need to have
any rest and just work with him for one minute.
Speaker 15 (27:09):
And like to comment on that, an exercise like this
is almost as you should almost feel a see one
ball is trying to catch the next ball, and you
can think.
Speaker 19 (27:19):
About exercises where you actually could have that. I don't
know if you have three balls in there or the
boat just grow faster, but where they really need to
get from him to be quick because the next situation
starts right.
Speaker 18 (27:30):
Away when the next board is coming.
Speaker 15 (27:34):
I'm having a challenge getting like putting together where the
issue is coming up. I think that all my observation
of my recommendation would be that, similar to what Christie
is saying.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
We don't stop doing it, but we don't make.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
It same as if they have to learn this to
pass a test.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
For example, Sebastian is wee, God.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It works, He's going and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (28:02):
So we can pick the moments that is right to
do it and highlight those moments versus just counting because
in this like in the heads of the boys, they're
probably thinking, oh, if I do this, do this, that're
gonna pass every single time.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Or if I do the V turn, I pro not.
So we are not writing a test.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
So let me ask you this season is probably do
that five more times?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Yeahs it worked, but that's what the times it didn't work.
But that's what I'm saying. What does he tell him
that he was the right or wrong?
Speaker 15 (28:35):
It depends on the scenario, because in those should be
the own scenario.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
He's receiving pressure.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Do you want to receive the pressure by combining or
you want to beat the pressure back?
Speaker 15 (28:44):
For me, no, But then that's when we have to
distinguish between We have to pick and choose when to
highlight it. It's okay to tell if it's you, it's
okay for me to tell you that, hey, that turn
there probably wasn't. Necessarily you had a better I agree,
But if I see that he's he's actually like because
like you said, the specific example you provide it, it
was the perfect moment to do it because it was
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under pressure. It did his turn play it used the
outside of the foot to help us play out and
we actually went forward with that. But it's not just
like that's when we highlight it, not just when Ego
does it on the white side like by himself.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
So you highlighted this time because you work, Yeah, But
when it doesn't work or you're not gonna highlight it, no.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You can really hear how much truly goes into this,
not just the physical or technical side of developing young players,
but their mindset, their character, their fit within the Right
to Dream family. Every decision, every discussion shapes lives and
echoes for years. After the break, we're gonna hear from
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Rochelle Minnix, head of school at Right to Dream, with
the reminder that it's not.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
All about football.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
This is about setting these kids up for success in
the future, wherever that journey takes them. Stick with us,
welcome back. We've talked a lot about football, the sessions,
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the tactics, the coaching, but remember, for these kids, most
of their day happens off the field. This is a
full time school as much as it's an academy, one
that promises to open doors to college and opportunity and
even for those who never turn pro and in San Diego,
that side of the program is led by Rochelle Minnis.
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She even has the name of a teacher from Hogwarts,
right Rochelle Minnicks, head of school Outright to Dream. She
invited us inside to show us the classroom, the community,
and the culture that's come together and how the academy
is shaping not just young footballers, but curious, confident young people.
Speaker 14 (31:00):
My name is Rachelle Minnix.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I'm the head of school for Right to Dream Academy
in San Diego.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
So we open our doors on August third.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
So it's been almost two months of living every day
with our student athletes, and people ask all the.
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Time what is it like and how are they?
Speaker 8 (31:15):
And I think the first thing I will say, I
come every day to work with a huge smile on
my face. Working with these young people is an absolute joy.
They are infectiously energetic, they're enthusiastic about learning, They're enthusiastic
about honestly, every single thing that they do.
Speaker 14 (31:35):
So it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So after morning training, it's not straight into lessons. They
start the day with reflection and intentionality.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
After breakfast, we have a time where all of the
coaches and the teachers come together with our student athletes,
and we have some sort of community time. So on Mondays,
for example, that's a community circle where we're opening the week,
we're setting intentions, electing on the weekend or the week
that we just had. We have advisory time, we have
mental performance times, so that section after breakfast is really
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about grounding ourselves and coming together as a community. After that,
they transition to class, so they all walk up to
our school buildings, they grab their chromebooks.
Speaker 14 (32:17):
Everybody has their own.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Laptop, and then they transition into one of many subjects.
Speaker 14 (32:22):
So they either have.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Their English class, their math class, they may go to science,
or they might be heading to art, music, or robotics.
And so for our languages, we're also we're teaching three
different forms of language. So we have beginning Spanish, we
have Spanish for native speakers, and then we have English
Language Development for those students who are just learning to
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acquire the English language. So they have kind of a
wide range of things that happened during the academic block.
We have special time that we call deer it's drop
everything and read, and so they can go into our
library where we've curated thousands and thousands of books where
they get to choose and check out so they have
time to read. We also have our Dream Big Block
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where they're engaged in kind of an elective of their choice.
So this first period of time, those electives have been
aerial drones, gardening, they're training a therapy dog who will
be part of our campus life, and they also have
been doing magic, so they're going to put on a
magic performance for all of us at the end of
this period. And then you know, they eat a snack
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and they go back to the locker room and they
get changed and they do another training session. So it's
a robust day. The boys are busy, they're focused, and
there's intensity, you know, kind of throughout the day. And
then they get dinner and they have time to hang out.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
As we just heard, they're teaching both English and Spanish
from the start, making sure that teammates from both sides
of the border not just communicate, but understand one another's
cultural background. It's part of San Diego life, but also
of this organization.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Diversity is one of the foundational values of Right to Dream,
and as part of that, it's really valuing the unique
strengths that each young person and old person can bring
to this team in this environment, and knowing that we
are stronger when our differences come together or what could
be perceived as differences.
Speaker 14 (34:24):
Right here in southern California, you know I grew up here.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
I think one of the things that is so unique
about San Diego is it is that we are bicultural
or binational and bilingual. Right if you live and work
in San Diego, then you know that that includes both
sides of the border. It shows up in how we celebrate,
It shows up just in so many.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
In our food, in how we interact.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
So if our academy is to reflect our environment, then
it's very natural that our academy would show that.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
It all feeds into the philosophy of building people student athletes,
not simply footballers. And according to Rachelle, the sky's the
limit for what's possible for everyone involved.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
At many academies, that development plan would only focus on
football at this academy, just like the other Right to
Dream academies across the globe, the individual development plan includes
goals and action plans for football, character, and academics.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
They all sit with equal weight.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
I think we are going to continue to hold the
duality of acting in real time with the best information
and best intentions that we have, while also looking forward
and continuing to push ourselves to innovate and be bold
and big about how we design.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
So I see this being a forum.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
For that type of learning to happen and for us
to be able to continue to push the needle on
what's possible in an academy here in southern California, but
also really as a model for what is possible around
the world.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
What really stands out is that it's not just a
football academy. It's a whole environment built around growth. And
Mikey Bodo says it all the time that this organization
is about growth mentality.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
We see it already with the academy.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
The kids train every day, but most of their time
is spent in classrooms, learning, creating, discovering who they are.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
Darren Well, I think.
Speaker 13 (36:32):
That's probably what stands out and blows me away most.
It's just incredible to see the balance at such a
young age, right because we all think about the football
side of it, which is obviously what we prioritize in
most of our conversations for football robotics art, magic shows.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
It is Hogwarts, magic shows.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
They have all of it.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
It is the show Wars.
Speaker 13 (36:56):
You just don't get that sort of stuff in most
academies around the world, but here is a big part
of the overall structure. It's a big priority to make
sure that they are running around like the hardwarts.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But to have an academy like this here in San Diego,
one that's residential, scholarship based and connected directly to a
professional club that's going to shape the future of the
game in the US.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
And it's a real.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Talent pipeline but also a life pipeline, giving these kids
an experience that most young players, Darren, and we've seen
it through sports across all of them, not very likely
that they get this type of treatment and these possibilities
presented by the Right to Dream Academy.
Speaker 13 (37:35):
I mean, I think it's so unique that you grow
up around world class coaches, around the first team, right
you get to go out there, you get to see
some of these first team players on a regular basis.
These are players that are played internationally, that come from
other parts of the world, and they're learning what it
takes before most players even step into that kind of environment.
I find myself so overwhelmed thinking about how fortunate it
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is to be put into this kind of environment. I
would have killed for something like this when I was
a kid, And it's so.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Uniga and the type of players we've run into him.
You know, that day that we were doing the presentation,
I know I ran in to a little boy. I
forget his name, but I just know he's a good
big brother. He's moving around up and down and everywhere,
following his little friends like little ducks. I think you've
said it best that you see them like like a
little fluck right, just all together at all times.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
And that day they were super excited. But then he
comes over tells.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
His little brother like she got him a band, Like easy, now,
you know what, I'll let you have the Xbox to yourself,
but just be good right now. Mom has to handle
business here with us, you know, and the little sisters like, yeah, okay,
we'll both behave And it just speaks to the character
the quality of the kid that is also being developed here.
And it's just magic. It's proof that San Diego and
Shit is just part of MLS. It's redefining how the
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next generation of American players will grow joke around calling
it hogwarts, but that's the true magic of right to dream,
helping young people become not just footballers, but confident, capable
human beings. All right, I already wrap it all up.
Let's take a quick look at what's next, Darren Smith.
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We're recording this right before that wildcard game between the
Portland Timbers and Real Salt Lake. So right now we
don't know who we're going to face in the first
round of the playoffs. We just know it's going to
be one of those two teams, and it begins at home,
and it adds a little bit of a twist because
things at home, you know, they say Dorothy would always
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say that there's no place like home.
Speaker 13 (39:27):
There's no place like a way for SDFC ten straight
and nine wins and one draw over their last ten.
But I think, no matter what, sdfc's going to be ready.
I think, just looking at the way it was over
the last couple of weeks, given that Mikey said that
is our objective to be playing our best football by
the end of the regular season, and it feels like
they have been what we.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Saw out of Portland. I mean, that's Portland for you.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
RSL worries me a little bit more because it seems
like they're a little bit more organized. I think that
they might create more problems tactically speaking for San Diego FC.
But it doesn't matter whoever wants to jump into the party,
BEng Gun, because either way, the first place finished, home
field advantage, a ton of confidence. S DFC is not
in a good spot. They're in a great spot. It's
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going to be absolute fire in the finest city there
in Mission Valley comes Sunday.
Speaker 13 (40:15):
Looking forward to it no matter what it is. It's
history in America's final city. AGM. Can't wait, cannot wait
for Sunday night at six thirty.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Playoffs.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Playoffs, Yes, playoffs, baby, Well, another great show in the
Onion bag. A big thank you to everyone who helped
bring it together, the team at San Diego FC and
the Right to Dream Academy for letting us behind the scenes,
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and of course to Darren Smith the ISA always invited.
You have a credit card invited for life to the
gottness out of card.
Speaker 13 (40:54):
Right, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I mean, if I've
got that kind of credit here, yeah, I will run
off that tab big time.
Speaker 10 (41:00):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Always writing Shotgun Copelton, Darren Smith, thank you very much,
and we're not done yet. The playoffs are here and
we're going to be back next week with the first
of our dedicated playoff shows, Scott.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
They'll be back and we're going to.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Be following every twist, every goal, every bit of drama
as San Diego FC chases history. They've already made it,
they're just writing it in the process and we're all
living it together.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
Make sure you.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss
a single moment. I'm Adrian got to see a markis
You've been dipped in chrome and nasue. This has been
behind the flow
Welcome to the grand opening of scsc's Right to Dream ACHA.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
The Right to Dream in Major League Soccer is the story.
Speaker 3 (00:09):
We have one of the best performance centers, not only
in America, I think one of the best in the world.
Speaker 4 (00:14):
It's just like a privilege to be here. There's the
best players I've seen, and it's just very fun.
Speaker 5 (00:26):
This is Behind the Flow, the podcast where we dive, indeed,
week by week into the heart of San Diego Epsey's
very first season in Major League Soccer. In football, it's
easy to chase results, the next win, the next trophy.
But at a Right to Dream Club, the real story
begins long before the building futures, shaping lives and helping
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young players dream bigger. This week we go insick San
Diego Epsey's Right to Dream Academy, fresh off of its
official opening, to hear how SDFC is building a new
pathway in North America. We hear from head of Academy Football,
John mcgwigan.
Speaker 6 (01:07):
The boys wake around six six point fifteen and at
around seven am they meet up the walkout areas they
put the cuts on. They hear a really short explanation
from the coaches.
Speaker 7 (01:19):
Using the TV.
Speaker 6 (01:20):
What they can expect when they.
Speaker 7 (01:21):
Go on the field.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
Then we learn how these young student athletes are supported
as they step into the unknown with Head of School
Rashelle Minnix.
Speaker 8 (01:31):
Working with these young people is an absolute joy. They
are infectiously energetic, they're enthusiastic about learning, their enthusiastic about honestly,
every single thing that they do.
Speaker 5 (01:43):
And because we love giving you the behind the scenes scoop,
we're a fly on the wall as the staff assesses
their first class of student athletes at Hogwarts.
Speaker 9 (01:54):
So today we'll be working on attacking of the non
body posician to receive first thoughts?
Speaker 7 (02:02):
And how will the niners read prayer?
Speaker 5 (02:07):
How is this model different, how will it work in
the US, And how do you prepare young people not
only to become great players, but great humans. That's all
coming up. Don't move, I'm Adrian, gotta see a markis
welcome to behind the Flow. Got Castorina can't be here
this week. She's always busy, but I'm always joined my
(02:30):
copiloton wingman.
Speaker 10 (02:33):
They say what they said, Darren Smith.
Speaker 5 (02:35):
Now this episode we're looking to the future, but honestly
the present is on fire. Yes, Decision Day, San Diego
Efci did it just show up?
Speaker 10 (02:46):
They blew the doors off four nil in Portland.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
That sealed the first place in the West, nineteen wins,
sixty three points and a ticket to the twenty twenty
six con Cuckoff Champions Cup.
Speaker 10 (03:02):
The stuff of dreams.
Speaker 5 (03:03):
Yes, guesswinga at your ready. Dada embraces from the dam
bump bump, Bumpaletero Anders Dryer amal Pellegrino.
Speaker 10 (03:13):
History being made on the road. What a night.
Speaker 11 (03:16):
We're underway visiting San Diego in white Bombino for Bamacati
Bombino those under twenties and.
Speaker 10 (03:24):
Chile in there.
Speaker 5 (03:25):
It gets all the way through for Pellegrino a half molly,
it goes over Kelsey.
Speaker 10 (03:30):
It's a cost down misheait. Dryer in his sweet spot
gets it for Pellegrina.
Speaker 11 (03:39):
Pellegrino loving life in San Diego, San.
Speaker 10 (03:44):
Diego, picking up where they left off. Pellegrino, tryer hitting.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
Amily stores, God loss all, tryer one on one.
Speaker 10 (03:56):
Here's back chick alicious. I just tryer city the FC.
It blowed the roof off. Now they're turnover out of
the back of the goalkeeper.
Speaker 12 (04:06):
Good now matches Dryers contribution.
Speaker 10 (04:11):
He is loving it if he wasn't loving it already.
What a moment.
Speaker 13 (04:17):
It almost felt like we had two wins. We had
the four nil blasting of Portland. Timbers just battered them
all night long, left them scratching their heads. Their fans
were soaking wet the pouring rain. But then also afterwards
watching this group huddled around a cell phone waiting to
see what it was that was happening in Vancouver, because
with the win for SDFC and Vancouver's loss on top
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of the Western Conference, the number one seed home field
advantage throughout the MLS Cup playoffs goes through Snapdragon Stadium.
What a moment, Like an indelible image of success from
twenty twenty five, and.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
You can sense that the team understood the assignment from
the minute that the ball was kicked. And how special
was the vibe in Downtown's and diegu in particular from
from downtown Horton, Plaseg, you name, Oh, I'm gonna, oh,
here we go, Hacksaw, San Diego, downtown term Peril, Big Sandy.
Speaker 10 (05:09):
Everybody was fired up for San Diego WEFC.
Speaker 13 (05:12):
Everybody was fired up, and it was it was such
a there was such a level of anticipation for this
match for Decision Day twenty twenty five, that the club
had to host multiple viewing parties from North County all
the way down to Third Avenue and Tula Vista and
everywhere in between. I mean, I have not even yet
as of the time of this recording, been able to
(05:32):
catch up on all the social media posts from so
many of the supporters packed into the restaurants, packed into
the bars, celebrating out into the streets. But it's great
to see, right because it's all about the civic pride,
and it does make you jealous. Listen, you and I
we love being there, We love being part of the booth,
we love being in front of the action. But there
is a tiny little piece of you that goes that
looks like a lot of fun watching what it is
(05:52):
that's happening up and down Third Avenue in tu La Vista.
Speaker 5 (05:55):
Absolutely, and it's and it's just so much fun to
watch feel And it's just getting started. The playoffs start
snap Dragon Stadium Sunday, October twenty sixth, six thirty pm.
First ever playoff performance for San Diego FC.
Speaker 10 (06:12):
It's gonna beautiful.
Speaker 13 (06:13):
Do you think the Murph Dragon is going to be
a little loud and a little fired up. Based on
everything that we've seen in twenty twenty five, I have
a feeling a Sunday night at six thirty, people are
gonna be ready to go.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
It's so fun to watch it, and we know how
San Diego is so hungry for a winner, for a
great performer. The energy in this city is just absolutely special.
Speaker 13 (06:34):
San Diego has got an appetite like there is a real,
real thirst for success, for winning here in this market.
And it didn't happen like you said for the Podres.
So now people are really doubling down on their desire
to see something great happen here with Santego Football Club.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
So from these young players, we're gonna get even younger
players as the topic here because we're turning our attention
to the club's youth academies and a milestone moment for
San Diego FC. On September twenty sixth, twenty twenty five,
the Right to Dream Academy in San Diego in San
Diego officially opened its doors, marking another exciting chapter in
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this club's already record breaking first year.
Speaker 10 (07:20):
All the heavy hitters were there that day.
Speaker 5 (07:22):
You'll first hear from CEO Tom Penn announcing the grand opening,
and then you're gonna hear from Mohammed Mansour who's dream
of an academy in San Diego has finally been realized
and it's.
Speaker 10 (07:34):
Got to be magic for him. You saw that look
in his eye.
Speaker 5 (07:37):
And finally MLS Commissioner Don Garber calling the project a
game changer for youth development in Major League Soccer.
Speaker 10 (07:44):
Let's take a listen.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Welcome to the grand opening of scfc's Rights and Dream mchaf.
Speaker 11 (07:53):
With those words, CEO Tom Penn may have changed US
soccer history. An essential part of sdfc's plan, the Right
to Dream Academy is designed to bring soccer players from
Southern California, Mexico and beyond into an environment where they
can thrive well.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
This is our commitment to youth development, so Right to
Dream gives opportunities for kids from all backgrounds. The best
of the best come into a residential academy on our
campus out in Alcohoone. We had our grand opening just
last Friday, and we had Sir Mohammad Mansour, our owner,
in along with Sequan and the commissioner. The kids gave
(08:29):
a tour of their classrooms, you know they live on campus.
These are sixth and seventh graders, the best of the best.
There's the commissioner, he just loved it. We introduced the
players alongside the first team Mikey Varies spoke. We hosted
an amazing foundational event where we took the first ever
first team First Academy photo together, which was just magnificent.
(08:53):
So it was one of the best days in club history.
Speaker 14 (08:56):
Just such anatol event.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Man, what comes the kids out there?
Speaker 15 (09:01):
What feelings did I give is?
Speaker 3 (09:04):
I'm very passionate about it and it was so touched
to see the young players. The first class of the
Right to Dream Academy, which was a dream of mine,
dream of the Monsieur family, dream of the Secum tribe
to be actually here and inexistence. We cut the ribbon
in May of twenty twenty three. It was just the
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Sequng land here and today we have one of the
best performance centers, not only in America, I think one
of the best in the world. And this is our
belief and our betting on.
Speaker 10 (09:35):
The future of football. You're in Centieco. This is unique.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It's part of a global program with Right to Dream
and thinking about developing players but it's as important to
develop great young men. You know. I sat at dinner
with a company the alumni. These guys are impressive, you know,
and they played in college. None of the three guys
that met last night played professionally, but they are different.
(10:00):
Their lives have been changed by Right to Dream. So
for me, having Right to Dream in Major League Soccer
is the story. Do you see a future where Right
to Dream expands with other MOLS clubs? So I think
if it can be figured out, I'd like to see that.
I don't know how. You know, we have this unique
structure where our teams have exclusivity around their own room territories.
(10:22):
But you know, it almost seems to be too valuable
to be limited to one market. But you know, their
visionary guys, We're a visionary leave. Maybe there's ways for
us to think about, you know, broader engagement, broader programming.
Speaker 10 (10:35):
Who knows.
Speaker 5 (10:39):
So there it is San Diego E Fsey's Right to
Dream Academy officially open, the first fully residential, scholarship based
youth academy in Major League Soccer, and judging by what
we heard from Tumpen, Mohammed Mansour, and Don Garber, the
rest of the league is definitely taking notice historic, world
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class and a real game changer for US soccer and Darren.
When you hear that kind of language, it tells you
this project is a little bit more than just about
building plays.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
This is about building When I spects on this.
Speaker 13 (11:14):
Oh, Adrian, the scale of this is unreal. It's sort
of the kind of thing that you have to see
and experience in person to truly understand it. I remember
CEO Tom Penn did an interview back in twenty twenty
four where he said, what we're trying to do here
is become the IAX Academy of North America. You go, hmm, well,
well what does that mean. Well, listen to how they
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went about their business here. Three thousand kids were assessed
in the last year and a half. We're talking open trials, invitationals,
local club sessions, cross border scouting in Tijuana, and from
all of that, from all of those eyeballs, all of
those sessions, this team selected the first seventeen student athletes.
They're now living, studying right there on property, right there
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on the ground in Alcohol and it's a real pipeline.
One of the drawbacks to youth soccer in the United
States has always been the pay to play barrier, so
that's been removed.
Speaker 10 (12:08):
That's not what this is now.
Speaker 13 (12:09):
This is very much going after people who maybe don't
have the finances to go through all of that nonsense
that's held the production of the sport back.
Speaker 10 (12:18):
We're talking about.
Speaker 13 (12:19):
Five year scholarships purely on potential, and this has just begun.
They're talking about multiple teams, boys and girls, age groups
in the years ahead. So going back to what it
was that Tom had to say about the Ayax Academy,
they have like twelve youth programs there and this is
just the beginning of what this is going to look
like in a couple of years down the road. It's
pretty amazing.
Speaker 5 (12:38):
It is amazing, and I'm not going to be surprised
if I hear that each one of these kids that
you talked about, amongst the three thousand that tried out,
maybe had an owl right at their house and drop
off a letter.
Speaker 10 (12:51):
That said you have been invited to.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Hogwarts right to Dream Academy Year one Canidas Uno Bengay.
Speaker 10 (13:00):
Let's hear from the Young Wizards.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
I'm Ro McCormick and I play striker.
Speaker 16 (13:07):
My name is Asai Chavis and here in the Right
to Dream Academy. I play left wing.
Speaker 17 (13:12):
My name is Alexander Laughlin and I play center back.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
My name is Roman Espinoza and I am a goalkeeper.
I started playing soccer when I was around three to four.
I kind of got into it, and then, yeah, I
just spent my life ever since I started.
Speaker 16 (13:26):
I started playing soccer when I was about three years old.
I would just like get a bunch of things, like
let's say, water bottles, plant and I would just like
go through like if they were comed.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
I joined like this kid's program when I was about three,
but if you count competitive, I'll be playing about four years,
getting to like the last stage. If it feels really
nice and it's just like a privilege to be here.
There's some of the best players I've seen, and it's
just very fun.
Speaker 16 (13:55):
I was very excited when I got here. When they
send me the email I was invited to this camp
or any of the thing they did, I got super excited.
I did not know that I would come this far
in my soccer journey or soccer career.
Speaker 4 (14:10):
I'm excited that I got this opportunity, and I understand
that I'm talented I'm gonna try to ease it to
my advantage and I'm gonna try my best to make
the academy. The most important thing I've learned this week
is to have fun and enjoy the time that I have.
Speaker 16 (14:25):
The biggest thing I learned was that keyword integrity. You
gotta have integrity. What it means is do the right
thing even when no one's watching.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
I think just learning to play with top competition and
just going away. If I don't make it, then you
can learn from it. But if I do, then I'll
be proud of myself. I think I learned here that
being mature is really important. But before I didn't think
that was that important. I thought it was just football,
nothing else. But I learned that academics, characteristics and football
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are also are really important. The opportunity that I think
I have is to become pro because I'm going to be.
I'll be living here with all these players, and that's
going to like give me the taste of what professional
was really like.
Speaker 16 (15:12):
That would be my dreams. That's what I'm here fighting
for to get a position and the DFC right to
dream Academy live here, be like you know, Botang Tupilosana
one of them. You know, it'd be really cool when
I leave.
Speaker 17 (15:27):
Here, I'm gonna say I put all that I needed
out there. I put everything I got out there, and
whatever experience or whatever happens after is what I deserve
and what pushes me forward. No regrets. I will put
everything on the pitch and I have been.
Speaker 5 (15:43):
To get those They're ready for those who made the cut.
This is just the beginning, a chance to become the
first home grown stars of sd FC. From Derhas to
TQ one and of course right here in the finest city.
After the break, we head inside the ac Adamy to
see what life looks like once the dream becomes real,
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the work, the lessons and the people shaping the footballers
and humans of tomorrow.
Speaker 10 (16:24):
Welcome back.
Speaker 5 (16:25):
Nineteen young players made the cut, the very first cohort
of the Right to Dream Academy here in San Diego.
They're an under thirteen group, nine to twelve year olds
stepping into a proving global system, the Right to Dream
methodology that's already shaped young talent in Ghana, Denmark and Egypt.
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It's a model built on philosophy, character and a distinct
style of play, A blueprint that's delivered success all over
the world. In just a minute, you'll actually hear us
in class with the case inside their morning walkout meeting
as the coaches brief them for training. But first to
set the scene, we got up with John mcgwigan, head
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of Academy Football at San Diego FC.
Speaker 6 (17:15):
It feels really nice to get started because we planned
everything for well over a year, like eighteen months to
two years. Think, just like the first team, we had
a long running which is obviously a real positive and
a privilege that you get that amount of time to
plan and get things right. But there's really nothing like
just getting started sometimes, you know, for all the policies
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and procedures and planning that we did, there's a lot
of things that you just learn on the fly too.
There are a few nerves in the staff and definitely
a few nerves with the players and the families. So
it's just really nice to get started. I think for
everybody on the staff, we'll never be in a project
like this. Again. The size and the importance of the
project I think hasn't been lost on anyone, and it's
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just been really cool. So a typical day, if I
take Tuesday, for example, the boys wake around six six
point fifteen, so the residential staff wake them up, and
around six forty they leave the dorms. They make their
way down to the Performance Center, which is a couple
of minute walk across campus, and then it's into the
locker room and we then give them a bit of
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time and space just to get changed and have a snack,
and then around seven am they meet at the walkout area,
So the walkout area they put their cleats on, they
hear like a really short explanation from the coaches using
the TV what they can expect when they go on
the field, So which exercises will they go through, What's
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going to be expected of them on the field. We
sometimes talk about some of the keywords from our style
of play that they can expect to come across during
the session. And then they'll go out and train.
Speaker 5 (18:52):
It's all about the routine, and we join the coaches
for a morning walkout meeting, the daily huddle where the
players pull on their boots, gather around the screen and
talk through the focus for the session. It's a mix
of tactics, questions and learning the classroom before the field.
Speaker 7 (19:12):
So how are you last yeah, everybody good?
Speaker 9 (19:19):
Yeah, okay, So today we'll be working on attacking.
Speaker 7 (19:33):
Got it.
Speaker 9 (19:33):
It will be a progressive session, so we will start
from very simple where we'll start with coach savior our
passing pattern, just focusing on body position to receive first touch.
Speaker 7 (19:46):
Okay, passing and continue working on term man and given
those Okay.
Speaker 9 (19:51):
Some of the focus for today's sessions will be diamonds
to build up and how do we use the diamonds.
Speaker 7 (20:00):
To break pressure? Okay, So a couple of questions.
Speaker 12 (20:05):
Let's see number one, what is a good value position
to receive evils?
Speaker 7 (20:13):
Close for open? Okay?
Speaker 14 (20:16):
Why?
Speaker 7 (20:16):
What does it allow you to see?
Speaker 9 (20:17):
What other three things will want the defender, the defender
go up the space, toto the ball.
Speaker 10 (20:26):
Okay, So those.
Speaker 7 (20:27):
Are the three things we want to be aware of.
Speaker 12 (20:29):
When is the time to support a teammate and combine
to say that's in defending.
Speaker 7 (20:39):
What about when we're attacking, Jodan.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Any moment that urnal would be want we can support
and get the numerical a bit.
Speaker 9 (20:45):
So when the pressure is rid into my teammate, that
is a moment for me to check in.
Speaker 7 (20:51):
Does that make sense? So that will be the challenge
for today.
Speaker 9 (20:56):
Is can we recognize the moments for us to gables,
for a teammate to support.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
And combine to help progressively? Got it?
Speaker 10 (21:06):
Yes?
Speaker 16 (21:06):
Are we ready?
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (21:07):
Okay, we go on there.
Speaker 10 (21:10):
NICs.
Speaker 5 (21:11):
Id's wetome to me first, just hearing John talk about
that morning walk out, the coach is giving a quick
tactical breakdown using the screen to walk the players through
the session, it really struck me, struck all of us
how detailed this program already is daring. I mean, the
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kids are doing the homework and the architecture of the
brain at these ages, this is the perfect time to
embed all.
Speaker 10 (21:41):
Of these tactics and thoughts.
Speaker 13 (21:43):
Adrian, we are listening to ten and eleven year olds
talking about principles of play, positional awareness, transitions. Yet it
feels like we have a microphone inside of the Manchester
City dressing room listening to Pep Guardiola. Keep in mind
what we're talking about, and we're only talking about this
being five weeks into its existence already, and we have
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that level of conversation happening with these players. It's hard
to believe what it is and how much further that
you think this is going to go. It's unbelievable, And.
Speaker 5 (22:14):
I'll tell you, I mean, it's the right to dream
influence right there. Do you hear it in their voices
and already teaching not just the game but the thinking
behind the game. It's structure, philosophy, character. What's interesting to
me to all of us, I think, is that even
with all of that detail, they're not diving into tactics.
Speaker 10 (22:35):
Just yet, at least not heavily.
Speaker 5 (22:37):
The focus right now is on the principles, the style
of play, and even the style of player they want
to develop. John explained that idea and how close the
academy already is to the first team.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
We don't go into the tactical side for a little
while yet, so you're here us talking about style of
play and also style of player. So right now it's
about us help the boys to understand the principles of
the style of play. So an example would be that
we like to attract and then play against the pressure.
You'll hear the coaches talking about that a lot. So
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when the other team presses you, regardless of what you've
learned or been taught in the past, we don't just
kick the ball over the pressure. So that would be
a principle is that we stay composed and calm and
we try to play through the pressure instead. And obviously
it's a lot more detailed to it than that, but
that's something new to some of the boys. So we
saw in the recruitment process that we felt like they
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could do that. They're here now, so they're having to
do it every day in training and then in games.
The program, though, is much more technical and principles based
at this age, as opposed to tactical or as opposed
to just winning all the time. We share the cafeteria,
the food space, we share the gym, so there are
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some spaces where the boys every single day will be
around the first team players, which is again just an
amazing environment for them to be around. I think there
are some small things, like our first ever Academy game,
we played Phoenix on the turf just out here, and
the first team trained at the same time that we
played the game. At the same time that we played
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the game. When the first team finished their training session,
there was we were just getting into the second half
and Mikey and his staff came literally just walked across
from or watching the game. So I think that's a
really powerful message to send to the families that we
told you know, there's a genuine pathway to the first team.
The first team are interested in these young boys and
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seeing them grow and eventually play for our first team.
Every now and again, the technical director and Mikey, they
hold like a unit review meeting, so they'll go through
the film from you know, the last three or four
games at first team level, some of the things that
went well, some of the things to work on, and
Kenneth the technical director and Mikey invited the boys to
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sit in on one of those meetings and even participate.
So you have the goalkeepers, for example, are two academy
goalkeepers sitting with the first team goalkeepers and the goalkeeper
coaching staff to go through film together and you ask
questions and land together, which I think is just a
super powerful example of why it's great to be in
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the same place as the first team.
Speaker 5 (25:21):
They've got a long way to go, and that's where
the staff comes in.
Speaker 10 (25:25):
The right to dream.
Speaker 5 (25:26):
Academy team are pushing themselves every bit as hard as
the players, analyzing, debating, constantly refining how they are going
to teach the game. Later, we sat in on one
of the coaching review meetings to see the process for ourselves.
Going over film from the previous day session, we heard
as dfc's international mix of coaches challenging each other, dissecting details, questioning.
Speaker 10 (25:50):
What works and what doesn't, all.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
To give these kids the best possible foundation.
Speaker 6 (25:57):
The big takeaway from me and this step of stuff
is just a there's stuff, like you said, say, if
you're like Scrough, the pass passing and the wrong both
like they're just miles away from getting right. So whether
it gets simple file or whether you just repeat it
and repeat.
Speaker 7 (26:12):
It and repint it like as soon as possible, I
don't know.
Speaker 6 (26:15):
But there's so much of it that's not right that
it just breaks down all the time.
Speaker 18 (26:20):
I think the one thing that we cannot occur against
it and they need to be there's our focus on
it's for the passing to it is here and so
so in the aligne players.
Speaker 7 (26:32):
But even.
Speaker 19 (26:34):
I actually we have to get away from this. But
we cannot have him running like this. He looks like
someone is on vacation. So that's what I mean. I'm
not the type of shifts. Yeah, yeah, so I'm not.
So if he passed the ball, he cannot he cannot
just jock because some of the exercises should be that
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the next door is coming soon, because that would happen
in the game, especially when they get older. So he
should the only time when he has rests could be
out here. And that's why they don't need to have
any rest and just work with him for one minute.
Speaker 15 (27:09):
And like to comment on that, an exercise like this
is almost as you should almost feel a see one
ball is trying to catch the next ball, and you
can think.
Speaker 19 (27:19):
About exercises where you actually could have that. I don't
know if you have three balls in there or the
boat just grow faster, but where they really need to
get from him to be quick because the next situation
starts right.
Speaker 18 (27:30):
Away when the next board is coming.
Speaker 15 (27:34):
I'm having a challenge getting like putting together where the
issue is coming up. I think that all my observation
of my recommendation would be that, similar to what Christie
is saying.
Speaker 10 (27:47):
We don't stop doing it, but we don't make.
Speaker 7 (27:49):
It same as if they have to learn this to
pass a test.
Speaker 9 (27:54):
For example, Sebastian is wee, God.
Speaker 7 (28:00):
It works, He's going and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 15 (28:02):
So we can pick the moments that is right to
do it and highlight those moments versus just counting because
in this like in the heads of the boys, they're
probably thinking, oh, if I do this, do this, that're
gonna pass every single time.
Speaker 7 (28:17):
Or if I do the V turn, I pro not.
So we are not writing a test.
Speaker 9 (28:22):
So let me ask you this season is probably do
that five more times?
Speaker 7 (28:28):
Yeahs it worked, but that's what the times it didn't work.
But that's what I'm saying. What does he tell him
that he was the right or wrong?
Speaker 15 (28:35):
It depends on the scenario, because in those should be
the own scenario.
Speaker 7 (28:40):
He's receiving pressure.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
Do you want to receive the pressure by combining or
you want to beat the pressure back?
Speaker 15 (28:44):
For me, no, But then that's when we have to
distinguish between We have to pick and choose when to
highlight it. It's okay to tell if it's you, it's
okay for me to tell you that, hey, that turn
there probably wasn't. Necessarily you had a better I agree,
But if I see that he's he's actually like because
like you said, the specific example you provide it, it
was the perfect moment to do it because it was
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under pressure. It did his turn play it used the
outside of the foot to help us play out and
we actually went forward with that. But it's not just
like that's when we highlight it, not just when Ego
does it on the white side like by himself.
Speaker 9 (29:18):
So you highlighted this time because you work, Yeah, But
when it doesn't work or you're not gonna highlight it, no.
Speaker 5 (29:24):
You can really hear how much truly goes into this,
not just the physical or technical side of developing young players,
but their mindset, their character, their fit within the Right
to Dream family. Every decision, every discussion shapes lives and
echoes for years. After the break, we're gonna hear from
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Rochelle Minnix, head of school at Right to Dream, with
the reminder that it's not.
Speaker 10 (29:50):
All about football.
Speaker 5 (29:52):
This is about setting these kids up for success in
the future, wherever that journey takes them. Stick with us,
welcome back. We've talked a lot about football, the sessions,
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the tactics, the coaching, but remember, for these kids, most
of their day happens off the field. This is a
full time school as much as it's an academy, one
that promises to open doors to college and opportunity and
even for those who never turn pro and in San Diego,
that side of the program is led by Rochelle Minnis.
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She even has the name of a teacher from Hogwarts,
right Rochelle Minnicks, head of school Outright to Dream. She
invited us inside to show us the classroom, the community,
and the culture that's come together and how the academy
is shaping not just young footballers, but curious, confident young people.
Speaker 14 (31:00):
My name is Rachelle Minnix.
Speaker 8 (31:02):
I'm the head of school for Right to Dream Academy
in San Diego.
Speaker 14 (31:05):
So we open our doors on August third.
Speaker 8 (31:06):
So it's been almost two months of living every day
with our student athletes, and people ask all the.
Speaker 14 (31:13):
Time what is it like and how are they?
Speaker 8 (31:15):
And I think the first thing I will say, I
come every day to work with a huge smile on
my face. Working with these young people is an absolute joy.
They are infectiously energetic, they're enthusiastic about learning, They're enthusiastic
about honestly, every single thing that they do.
Speaker 14 (31:35):
So it's just a lot of fun.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
So after morning training, it's not straight into lessons. They
start the day with reflection and intentionality.
Speaker 8 (31:45):
After breakfast, we have a time where all of the
coaches and the teachers come together with our student athletes,
and we have some sort of community time. So on Mondays,
for example, that's a community circle where we're opening the week,
we're setting intentions, electing on the weekend or the week
that we just had. We have advisory time, we have
mental performance times, so that section after breakfast is really
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about grounding ourselves and coming together as a community. After that,
they transition to class, so they all walk up to
our school buildings, they grab their chromebooks.
Speaker 14 (32:17):
Everybody has their own.
Speaker 8 (32:18):
Laptop, and then they transition into one of many subjects.
Speaker 14 (32:22):
So they either have.
Speaker 8 (32:23):
Their English class, their math class, they may go to science,
or they might be heading to art, music, or robotics.
And so for our languages, we're also we're teaching three
different forms of language. So we have beginning Spanish, we
have Spanish for native speakers, and then we have English
Language Development for those students who are just learning to
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acquire the English language. So they have kind of a
wide range of things that happened during the academic block.
We have special time that we call deer it's drop
everything and read, and so they can go into our
library where we've curated thousands and thousands of books where
they get to choose and check out so they have
time to read. We also have our Dream Big Block
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where they're engaged in kind of an elective of their choice.
So this first period of time, those electives have been
aerial drones, gardening, they're training a therapy dog who will
be part of our campus life, and they also have
been doing magic, so they're going to put on a
magic performance for all of us at the end of
this period. And then you know, they eat a snack
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and they go back to the locker room and they
get changed and they do another training session. So it's
a robust day. The boys are busy, they're focused, and
there's intensity, you know, kind of throughout the day. And
then they get dinner and they have time to hang out.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
As we just heard, they're teaching both English and Spanish
from the start, making sure that teammates from both sides
of the border not just communicate, but understand one another's
cultural background. It's part of San Diego life, but also
of this organization.
Speaker 8 (34:04):
Diversity is one of the foundational values of Right to Dream,
and as part of that, it's really valuing the unique
strengths that each young person and old person can bring
to this team in this environment, and knowing that we
are stronger when our differences come together or what could
be perceived as differences.
Speaker 14 (34:24):
Right here in southern California, you know I grew up here.
Speaker 8 (34:27):
I think one of the things that is so unique
about San Diego is it is that we are bicultural
or binational and bilingual. Right if you live and work
in San Diego, then you know that that includes both
sides of the border. It shows up in how we celebrate,
It shows up just in so many.
Speaker 14 (34:47):
In our food, in how we interact.
Speaker 8 (34:50):
So if our academy is to reflect our environment, then
it's very natural that our academy would show that.
Speaker 5 (34:58):
It all feeds into the philosophy of building people student athletes,
not simply footballers. And according to Rachelle, the sky's the
limit for what's possible for everyone involved.
Speaker 8 (35:09):
At many academies, that development plan would only focus on
football at this academy, just like the other Right to
Dream academies across the globe, the individual development plan includes
goals and action plans for football, character, and academics.
Speaker 14 (35:25):
They all sit with equal weight.
Speaker 8 (35:27):
I think we are going to continue to hold the
duality of acting in real time with the best information
and best intentions that we have, while also looking forward
and continuing to push ourselves to innovate and be bold
and big about how we design.
Speaker 14 (35:48):
So I see this being a forum.
Speaker 8 (35:52):
For that type of learning to happen and for us
to be able to continue to push the needle on
what's possible in an academy here in southern California, but
also really as a model for what is possible around
the world.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
What really stands out is that it's not just a
football academy. It's a whole environment built around growth. And
Mikey Bodo says it all the time that this organization
is about growth mentality.
Speaker 10 (36:22):
We see it already with the academy.
Speaker 5 (36:24):
The kids train every day, but most of their time
is spent in classrooms, learning, creating, discovering who they are.
Speaker 10 (36:30):
Darren Well, I think.
Speaker 13 (36:32):
That's probably what stands out and blows me away most.
It's just incredible to see the balance at such a
young age, right because we all think about the football
side of it, which is obviously what we prioritize in
most of our conversations for football robotics art, magic shows.
Speaker 10 (36:49):
It is Hogwarts, magic shows.
Speaker 13 (36:50):
They have all of it.
Speaker 10 (36:51):
It is the show Wars.
Speaker 13 (36:56):
You just don't get that sort of stuff in most
academies around the world, but here is a big part
of the overall structure. It's a big priority to make
sure that they are running around like the hardwarts.
Speaker 5 (37:05):
But to have an academy like this here in San Diego,
one that's residential, scholarship based and connected directly to a
professional club that's going to shape the future of the
game in the US.
Speaker 10 (37:17):
And it's a real.
Speaker 5 (37:18):
Talent pipeline but also a life pipeline, giving these kids
an experience that most young players, Darren, and we've seen
it through sports across all of them, not very likely
that they get this type of treatment and these possibilities
presented by the Right to Dream Academy.
Speaker 13 (37:35):
I mean, I think it's so unique that you grow
up around world class coaches, around the first team, right
you get to go out there, you get to see
some of these first team players on a regular basis.
These are players that are played internationally, that come from
other parts of the world, and they're learning what it
takes before most players even step into that kind of environment.
I find myself so overwhelmed thinking about how fortunate it
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is to be put into this kind of environment. I
would have killed for something like this when I was
a kid, And it's so.
Speaker 5 (38:02):
Uniga and the type of players we've run into him.
You know, that day that we were doing the presentation,
I know I ran in to a little boy. I
forget his name, but I just know he's a good
big brother. He's moving around up and down and everywhere,
following his little friends like little ducks. I think you've
said it best that you see them like like a
little fluck right, just all together at all times.
Speaker 10 (38:19):
And that day they were super excited. But then he
comes over tells.
Speaker 5 (38:22):
His little brother like she got him a band, Like easy, now,
you know what, I'll let you have the Xbox to yourself,
but just be good right now. Mom has to handle
business here with us, you know, and the little sisters like, yeah, okay,
we'll both behave And it just speaks to the character
the quality of the kid that is also being developed here.
And it's just magic. It's proof that San Diego and
Shit is just part of MLS. It's redefining how the
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next generation of American players will grow joke around calling
it hogwarts, but that's the true magic of right to dream,
helping young people become not just footballers, but confident, capable
human beings. All right, I already wrap it all up.
Let's take a quick look at what's next, Darren Smith.
(39:04):
We're recording this right before that wildcard game between the
Portland Timbers and Real Salt Lake. So right now we
don't know who we're going to face in the first
round of the playoffs. We just know it's going to
be one of those two teams, and it begins at home,
and it adds a little bit of a twist because
things at home, you know, they say Dorothy would always
(39:25):
say that there's no place like home.
Speaker 13 (39:27):
There's no place like a way for SDFC ten straight
and nine wins and one draw over their last ten.
But I think, no matter what, sdfc's going to be ready.
I think, just looking at the way it was over
the last couple of weeks, given that Mikey said that
is our objective to be playing our best football by
the end of the regular season, and it feels like
they have been what we.
Speaker 10 (39:45):
Saw out of Portland. I mean, that's Portland for you.
Speaker 5 (39:48):
RSL worries me a little bit more because it seems
like they're a little bit more organized. I think that
they might create more problems tactically speaking for San Diego FC.
But it doesn't matter whoever wants to jump into the party,
BEng Gun, because either way, the first place finished, home
field advantage, a ton of confidence. S DFC is not
in a good spot. They're in a great spot. It's
(40:10):
going to be absolute fire in the finest city there
in Mission Valley comes Sunday.
Speaker 13 (40:15):
Looking forward to it no matter what it is. It's
history in America's final city. AGM. Can't wait, cannot wait
for Sunday night at six thirty.
Speaker 10 (40:23):
Playoffs.
Speaker 5 (40:24):
Playoffs, Yes, playoffs, baby, Well, another great show in the
Onion bag. A big thank you to everyone who helped
bring it together, the team at San Diego FC and
the Right to Dream Academy for letting us behind the scenes,
(40:46):
and of course to Darren Smith the ISA always invited.
You have a credit card invited for life to the
gottness out of card.
Speaker 13 (40:54):
Right, I'm fine with that. Yeah, I mean, if I've
got that kind of credit here, yeah, I will run
off that tab big time.
Speaker 10 (41:00):
That's right.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Always writing Shotgun Copelton, Darren Smith, thank you very much,
and we're not done yet. The playoffs are here and
we're going to be back next week with the first
of our dedicated playoff shows, Scott.
Speaker 10 (41:13):
They'll be back and we're going to.
Speaker 5 (41:14):
Be following every twist, every goal, every bit of drama
as San Diego FC chases history. They've already made it,
they're just writing it in the process and we're all
living it together.
Speaker 10 (41:25):
Make sure you.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Follow the podcast wherever you listen so you don't miss
a single moment. I'm Adrian got to see a markis
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