Selective Ignorance: Ep.43 | Christmas: Capitalism, Christianity & The Claus - Selective Ignorance with Mandii B

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, guys, welcome to another episode of Selective Ignorance. However,

(00:03):
before we get to this week's episode, I want to
remind you guys to purchase my book No Holds Barred,
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wherever you read your books. Again. That is No Holds Barred,
a dual manifesto of sexual exploration and power, written by
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Make sure y'all get that. Now let's get to this
week's episode. This is Mandy B. Welcome to Selective Ignorance,
a production of the Black Effect Podcast Network and iHeartRadio

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Ho Ho Ho shout out to the whole.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I gotta start that way, I gotta start off
that way.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
It's your girl, Mandy Be. And this is another episode
of Selective Ignorance. Christmas Edition or I have to say
Holiday Edition now. I guess we'll get into that now. Listen,
it is officially Christmas season, so tis the season to
be jolly, but also let's keep it a buck. It's
a season to be stressed, broke, and mildly depressed. So
we're gonna start off with some shoutouts. If you're listening

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to this episode as a giver, buying, gives, cooking, hosting,
letting folks stay at your house red free till January,
we thank you, we see you, we appreciate you, and
your cash out probably needs some thoughts and prayers. If
you're listening to this and you're depressed, maybe you're alone
this year, maybe family is a lot, maybe life is lifing.
I'm really hoping that we can cheer you up with
this episode because y'all know what I like to do

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is make people laugh. And so in today's episode and
our Christmas special, we're doing it big with all the
things and this is America segment. We're talking favorite Christmas moments,
so the stuff that made us fill all warm and fuzzy.
But we're also getting nostalgic with Christmas crazes that we
grew up with. And y'all know my Super Producers is

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a little old, so we take it it way back.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
We're gonna talk about the toy as we begged for.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
The commercials that lived in our heads, rent free and
the super that all the things that we wanted going
back were also wrapping back the wrapping paper and getting
a little spicy with Christmas versus capitalists. Now we all
know that we don't turn Christmas from whatever they said

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it was. It churched to pretty much a place of
seeing who can get the most gifts under the tree
and fitted in the living room. Do you get a cry?

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Now?

Speaker 1 (02:33):
So we're talking about how America America with that, and
then in celebrities say the darness things we got. Trump
allegedly happy that we no longer actually say Christmas.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Now everybody's saying Merry Christmas again.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
People have been yelling Merry Christmas like it's a personality traite.
But we're getting into all of the fake culture wars
why politicians act like the real problem is America is
the seasonal greetings and not everything else. By the way,
we're also doing lists. I did not tell my superproducers
one of my favorite Christmas albums. We're talking Christmas albums,

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Christmas movies. We are getting into it. So turn the
lights onto the tree, grab your hot chocolate, make sure
you pull a little Bailey's in that thing, and we're
getting a little selectively ignorant. As always, I am joined
by my super producer journalism Jason what's going on? And

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a king what to do?

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Las Min and research is crazy because we don't got one.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
Jeff, you don't got one. Off the top of his head.
You know what's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
I ain't even gonna go there with you an go
over there is the holiday seasons. We gotta be nice,
you know what I mean, we gotta be nice to call.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
But Christmas, Christmas is one of those holidays. But like,
I'm not depressed. I'm also not a giver. I just.

Speaker 5 (04:00):
I think you are a giver.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
You shocking nothing out my kouchie.

Speaker 5 (04:05):
Oh you mean like that.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
I ain't no mother, so I don't get gifts.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I like, that's kind of like my excuse like the
holiday season for me. And when I say the holiday season,
it's you know, that's pretty much Q four right. So
I'm leaning. I'm leaning specifically into Christmas because I love
like I enjoy Halloween, I enjoy Thanksgiving now that I
could eat a little bit more for it. There was
a few years I didn't like it, you know, got

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that gastrick sleeve. A bitch just had to smell food
again and fooled that shit sucked. I could eat a
little bit more now I know how to make my
plates where I get all the taste. But Christmas for
me especially, maybe I say post December fifteenth, it's my

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alone time. Now I say post December fifteen, because bitch,
I am at every holiday poddy. So I like the
holiday parties, but Christmas specifically as someone who's not a mom,
as someone who doesn't really go back home. And I
don't go back home because my mom loves time and
a half, so she's somebody that loves to work on holidays.

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And then my sister, my sister for so many years
was in other countries, serving this goddamn god forsaken country
we live in, and so I never was like there
was no reason for us to all get together around
the holidays. And again, a lot of my friends, now
the older I got, the more that they had to
be home for their kids. And so Christmas for me

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is normally just the time I get to sit back, relax, recoup,
and prepare myself for the New Year's. It's always just
something where I wake up it's nothing different. I think
New York Christmas was tough for me because I'm a
single person. This is going to be also very first

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world problems, y'all. I can't stand the goddamn like menus
where you only get whatever they could like a holidays
like Thanksgiving and Christmas. If you go to restaurants, these
bitches do prefixed menus with a price that it to
me never add up, Like why the fuck are you

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charging me eighty seven dollars for meat loaf?

Speaker 6 (06:21):
Like and it be ship that I don't want.

Speaker 1 (06:24):
I mean, you know what I mean. But all of
the restaurants, because I'm not really cooking a meal, do
this prefixed bull shit. Cannot cook.

Speaker 6 (06:33):
I just I just actually strike that.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
We'll talk, yeah, I tell you, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah,
I about to say I talked about it on Thanksgiving.
I cook, but I cook. I enjoy cooking for a
lot of people. And so again, I ain't got no kids.
My boyfriends live in other states and I don't have
holiday plans with them, so you know, I just get

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to sleep in. Yeah, that's it fresh.

Speaker 6 (07:01):
A lot of people want that.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Yeah, Like how I celebrate the holidays is I know,
I buy pine candles and gingerbread candles. I mean, I
make my house smell like the holidays, right, and that's
about it.

Speaker 5 (07:13):
You're going to decorate a cat, are you a cat?

Speaker 1 (07:17):
So I don't. I don't get a tree. I got
a little baby mini tree one year, and every time
I fucking came home, that ship was knocked over. And bro,
he is my cat is so you know, it's crazy.
He's more bad with other people, like he loved me
down and I literally wish other people could see how
much he's a lover boy. They don't see that. I

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having a lot of him in the room and ship
like it's embarrassing. Like he's like a dog. I have
a trans dog, so what life?

Speaker 2 (07:50):
I guess he's a trans cat. No, he's a trans dog.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Whoever's listening, please don't fake outrage. We're just having fun
and relax the fake outrage.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I don't know if there's that.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Basically, my cat acts like a dog.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Listen my cat when someone is at the door, and
then Nigga goes to the door and sits there, and
when anyone enters the door, everyone has to put their
hand down so he could sniff it. And then when
I'm sitting on the couch. He likes to play fetch,
so me and him play fetch from time to time,
and he humps things like a dog, and whenever there's

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a sound, he put his little head up like he
about to do something.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
I literally be like, now, Boddy, what the fuck are
you about to do?

Speaker 5 (08:35):
Nothing?

Speaker 6 (08:37):
Mean, it's a transdump body, it's a trans dog.

Speaker 1 (08:40):
I know. I don't know saying I got a trans dog.
And so me and my cat we just one of
my cats, you know what I mean. We just loud
around the house and that's it. I do think that
Christmas is one of those holidays that when you're single,
it's just like it's just another day mm hm. And

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you honestly don't get.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
If you don't if you stay where you're at, if
you don't go back to your family.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
If you don't, yeah, like you know, if you're just
a transplant, one of your boyfriends actually to come spend
the holidays with him, would you, well, luckily no, like
like like the one doesn't celebrate holidays and then the
other one he got kids. Good question, so I'm sure
he'll be with you.

Speaker 5 (09:26):
I don't think would Muslim.

Speaker 1 (09:28):
I've already done that.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I'm not doing You did that? Did you have you
pray five times?

Speaker 1 (09:33):
Y'all don't even know? I did a I did, I did,
I did a Muslim I did all all on this
is all what he was. One man you met? Did
you not never meet him? He was a Muslim, Freemason,
flat eartherir boomer.

Speaker 4 (09:49):
That's the whole, not any of those something else from
from from Harlem's Temple seven. They had a multicultural Yeah,
like you don't even know.

Speaker 1 (10:04):
I talked about it like I had to remember. One
one Christmas, I went home, came back. I surprised and
went home. No, and my mama put bacon in the greens.
He tasted that bacon in my pussy. Swear to God.
He said, you ate pork. He knew I ate or
degrees I come out of you. He knew I ate pork.
And I was like, god, damn.

Speaker 5 (10:25):
Personal question. What followed through? It's weird. He still ate it, okay.

Speaker 1 (10:31):
But but he a personal question after she said, but yeah,
I ain't gonna hold you shade.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
But no, Shade, I don't know. I don't care how
you take this.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
I don't think I would ever date a muscleman again,
unless he was like that billionaire that Rihanna dated. I would.
I would.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
I might even convert for a billionaire, but you.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Know, no, but I would never date a Muslim again.
But it was interesting because when we did date, like
he took me down to see the tree because he
knew I was up here solo, but he didn't celebrate Christmas. Yeah,
I mean, you know, but I didn't give a fuck.

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I didn't need to see no big ass goddamn tree.
And it was too many people out there. I said, Okay,
I saw it. Time to go. And yeah, but for me,
for me, Christmas is just to me, it's it's the
reset before the reset. It's me getting ready to be
drunk as fuck on New Year's let's go. And then
I normally take a trip that first week of January

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because it's the cheapest be cause y'all niggas gotta get
back to work. I don't, so that first week in
January when neiggas got to get back to work, schools
start like right after the fourth Oh my god, everything
is cheap, So I take advantage of that, and then
I get back to work normally the second week of January.
But yeah. So that's the plans this year as well,

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And so last five years it's been Saint Croix Aruba
that I go to so love it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:00):
Are you a New Year Knew Me type person?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Nah? You know you don't like to say it, but
you are. Well. I like to start that in February
because in January niggas in the gym taking up goddamn space.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
So I don't be trying to I don't be trying
to go into the gym.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
Oh you're gonna drop off February one go.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
In February and then it's like in January, I'm still
putting the previous year when I got to put dates
and ship like, I'm not there adjustment. It takes me
till February to be like, who okay, it's New Years.
What's going on? I actually start my New Year's goals
like November December.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
You know they say you're supposed to do that. Yeah,
well you're supposed.

Speaker 4 (12:47):
To do it, rolling into them, I'll be doing a
bit you're supposed to you you'll stick to it if
you do that, And.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
I do what a bit supposed to do? You feel me?
And did right? And do? What about holidays for y'all.
I guess I want to go to the polar opposite you.
You're a whole married man with children.

Speaker 6 (13:03):
What's matching jams?

Speaker 5 (13:05):
I do that?

Speaker 1 (13:06):
You do the matchup with Jack? The cards? Do the car?
I better get one?

Speaker 3 (13:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:10):
You know.

Speaker 4 (13:11):
It's funny if I get an address somebody and they're like,
oh yeah. If I'm doing like a play date with
my daughter, they give me an address, I'm like, boom
into the dock.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Did everybody get to give the little holiday card? Okay?

Speaker 1 (13:21):
And then who do y'all do the meal? Because you
Puerto Rican? You do the pat of me?

Speaker 5 (13:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (13:25):
You know we do so.

Speaker 5 (13:26):
I definitely.

Speaker 4 (13:27):
I usually around Thanksgiving US when I get my stock,
I'll get my pastellas and I'll get my co I
have those on stock.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
I give my neighbor hate make it? I give him?

Speaker 1 (13:37):
No, I buy it.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
I'm a connect, so I buy it. I'll give my
neighbor a one. He gives me Haitian Ram in return.

Speaker 5 (13:43):
Okay, Crams.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Okay, so you do No, you just sit there and
watch football, right my wife Chris Christmas basketball?

Speaker 6 (13:53):
Well, now it's changing. We can get into that later.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
I'll do it exactly. Okay, okay, I.

Speaker 4 (14:00):
I think ethnic Christmases are better because it's not like
you get your.

Speaker 1 (14:03):
Oh he coming for the Americans, y'all get oh wait,
I forgot you American Puerto Rican.

Speaker 4 (14:08):
Yeah, but you get your flourishes where it's like, you know,
you'll get like I'll get my Puerto Rican plate.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
My wife is Persian, so I'll get that and we
mix it together.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
No, you got a real ethnic Christmas, because do they
celebrate Christmas in Persia?

Speaker 6 (14:20):
In Persia and Iran and Iran?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
But you know, the.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
American person matter the Muslim Persia is still a place.
Persia is like.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
A cartoon, yeah, but it's around Iranian people.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
So don't come and be like I was wrong. I
don't like.

Speaker 6 (14:36):
I don't know if there's a Persian.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
I don't like who you.

Speaker 5 (14:40):
Queens. Where you're from. They say Jamaica when you could
be from Laurelton Rosdale.

Speaker 6 (14:43):
I don't think there's a I don't.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
Yes, Yes, Persia is a place, thank you. It says
both the historical region and the former name of the
country now known as Iran Iran.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
But right, so I gotta represent that's my family for ron.
But Persia is the right is a historical name that
is not forgotten.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
You still refer to the areas as Persia.

Speaker 4 (15:07):
Yes, so nigga, don't correct me if it's iron, I
don't know. That's my that's my white side of the family.

Speaker 6 (15:12):
But Iran Persian.

Speaker 1 (15:13):
No, you could pick up another Porto Ricano.

Speaker 6 (15:16):
I'll stick up for that too. It's part of my
When you're married, you gotta.

Speaker 1 (15:18):
Do it's both okay, okay, and y'alls and y'all were
also both Christian.

Speaker 6 (15:23):
No, my wife's Muslim, so you make her celebrate Christmas?
She makes her.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
She likes to celebrate Christmas. It's like Jewish people who
celebrate Christmas. You know, it's because it's an American thing.
It's become you think he's just event. Listen, I'm listening
to this.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
Get a little tricky over here, Like, Okay, was that
a conversation before y'all got married? No, Like how y'all
would have kids celebrate the holidays?

Speaker 4 (15:47):
No, you know that's interesting and that ends up being
like another episode. I think when you get married and
you end up like sitting at the table together, like
the dinner table, you start realizing, like your cultural stuff.

Speaker 6 (15:59):
SU's coming up, and y'all, what type of food are
we going to eat?

Speaker 4 (16:01):
Like you don't realize that until you get in, and
so that's that's why you have to be like how
does so she's not really practicing, so it's not that
we hold the faith, but she doesn't do Yeah, like
we celebrate person New Year. Okay, okay, but there's not
a lot.

Speaker 1 (16:15):
And what's what's person new Year? Because every country.

Speaker 4 (16:18):
Has their own, but it's it's usually a calendar thing.
So it's like for them, the new Year starts with
the spring, not January first.

Speaker 6 (16:24):
Which is New Year's in March.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Makes sense, you just added, but that's a lot, but
you celebrate.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
But even like New Year's ever.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Has those traditions and things where it's like it's calendar
versus like Canada.

Speaker 1 (16:35):
Has their own Thanksgiving, which is like a whole different.

Speaker 4 (16:38):
Because they don't have a Thanksgiving celebate New Year's though,
but no, they do.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
They have a Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Canada has a Thanksgiving Canada.

Speaker 5 (16:44):
Yeah, I think they have their own.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, but there it's.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Not but it's not. It's not our ship now, it ain't.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
It ain't reasons Yeah, yeah, I want to want to go. Yeah,
you're gonna have is now, God damn. Okay, and then
you what is what.

Speaker 5 (16:59):
Is the same with the fam?

Speaker 3 (17:00):
I don't depending on what they might want to do,
the whole get up ship with the pants.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You know, you better bring me a plate.

Speaker 5 (17:08):
And the food thanks, you know, similar kind of similar.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
To similar food right at the crib.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Not no, well it's hit and miss sometimes no, sometimes yes,
you know, it's more so I like to take that
time to just hang out with family. That's just another
excuse for us to be together again after two three
weeks priors. Whatever happens is whatever we can eat like
fucking savages and just as long as we around each other,
the games, karaoke and you know, in the crib, just

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spending quality time with fami and friends.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
Okay, yeah, y'all do karaoke for Christmas.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Sometimes my family is I think they like to.

Speaker 6 (17:45):
Do black Christmas. Black Christmas is dope.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
The women in the family, they the.

Speaker 1 (17:50):
Family that I'm with for Thanksgiving, they normally do like
talent shows and stuff like that on Christmas.

Speaker 6 (17:56):
If you're just white and you don't have like other
if you just like.

Speaker 1 (17:59):
They have cast now that white people, they don't have
but that's that's like that is there, that's the favor.

Speaker 4 (18:06):
Yeah, then you know who I think the most tragic
of the white? What if I'm who's the most tragic?

Speaker 6 (18:12):
I think the American Italian?

Speaker 5 (18:14):
Talk to me?

Speaker 1 (18:15):
Yeah, are you feeling a little bit feel because.

Speaker 4 (18:18):
I think about it right, Like like if you're like
I have family in Puerto Rico, right, I go back
to Puerto Rico, like every few years I go see
my family. Italian people that I know, they don't go
to Italy, they have no family there, they don't Their
food that they eat is American Italian food.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
They have no U no, no, no, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
They you're talking about like the Americans that did the
twenty three meters and found out they were Italian just American,
or the because you go to Long Island that's Italian food.

Speaker 6 (18:45):
That ends up being like American Italian culture.

Speaker 4 (18:47):
It's like change and it's not like no no, And
again as that ask that person a Long Island or
Staten Island the last time they've been to Italy or
if they even where's where's their grandmother live or their
great grandmother? If you ain't going back, you know what
I'm saying like you have to tap back in, you
have to have your own motherland.

Speaker 1 (19:04):
Yeah, like two times.

Speaker 6 (19:05):
I think the Italian whites don't have that.

Speaker 1 (19:08):
Oh it's crazy, because I.

Speaker 6 (19:10):
Have I would be I would be an Irish white.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
I have a white mom and she we had an
I grew up with an ethnic Christmas, like Christmas is
when we got oxtail, but it was because that's the ship.
But we did. We did ox heal for our meal.

Speaker 6 (19:24):
I think Christmas.

Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yeah, we didn't do the turkey and the ham. We
an't really like that ship. That turkey be dried, like
I don't know why we first they do everything. Listen,
they're gonna start braiding it with y'all saw they was
braiding the salmon. They're gonna start breaking the turkey. The
only way I like turkey. It's mother turkey wings. That's it.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
You don't need the whole body, like it's a dead body.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Throw that ship away. And then the fact that you
be putting the organs back in it with some goddamn
bread crumbs. That ship is nasty.

Speaker 3 (19:58):
When I when I was growing up, we used to
take the turkey leftovers and make sandwiches out of them.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
You have a special nigga, what else you gonna do with?
You gotta slap the goddamn cranberry sauce sauce to even
make it to where I should?

Speaker 3 (20:10):
You know how you know how long it too, man
eat cranberry sauce. I was a whole adult. I just
didn't like it, like how just it's like what the
fuck is that? Why is this?

Speaker 1 (20:18):
You know?

Speaker 5 (20:18):
But then after I was like, oh no, no.

Speaker 1 (20:20):
No, cranberry sauce. That's the problem. It's a sauce. You
had to like eat it with a spoonful of something else.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You can't Usually I usually have it with potatoes and
collar green.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
You know, And that is that ain't the ignit take
if you if you ain't done it yet, shut the
fuck up to save my half white talking cranberry sauce.

Speaker 4 (20:39):
We should we gotta get a cannon listen, you know,
like when you can you become an adult and like.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
You we were doing we were doing it wrong the
whole way.

Speaker 6 (20:47):
It's like the like the Hawaiian buns.

Speaker 4 (20:49):
You're not supposed to just eat it out the bag.
You're supposed to eat them up right, but people cut
them off the bag. I wonder if cranberry sauce, if
we were like it said something on the can that
we don't know.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
We just no, no, no, I'm reading you now, I'm reberry sauce.
Eat that with other ship.

Speaker 6 (21:04):
It has to you gotta cut the product with it.

Speaker 5 (21:06):
That's what I do, you know, And that's what I got.
A homeboy.

Speaker 3 (21:11):
He puts all his left those on a hero bread
cranberry potato. Shoot, they sell it like that.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
Now if you go, if you go to like certain delis,
they have Thanksgiving Day sandwiches, and it's that. It's stuffing turkey,
cranberry sauce, sometimes some caligreens, depending on where you go. Something. No,
but y'all here the thing cranberry sauce.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Just put a little bit.

Speaker 1 (21:35):
Of that thing on the spoon with anything else, and
then it makes sense, Like, don't just think you gotta
eat it holding your nose. It's just not good. It's
just not good. Now, before we get started and talking
about all the things Christmas season in this culture, we're
not going to do a double down and take it back.
But I wanted to get into the history of Christmas. Now,

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this is the history that I found that is hidden
deep down into the archives of the deep dark web,
but I wanted to share it with you if you
came to the live show last year at Sony Hall
for the rebrand announcement of Decision Decisions, I brought this
out on stage, and I wanted to bring it here

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because I thought like, y'all need to be informed, and
I need y'all to know that Santa Claus was pro
sex work, and we just wanted to bring that here
to selective ignorance. So, Jason, I did make you do
a little bit of the research, and so can you
share a bit of the story and then we can

(22:46):
dissect it? Ay, King, did you know this story? Did
you look up this story?

Speaker 5 (22:49):
Are you aware of Santa Nope?

Speaker 2 (22:51):
Okay, let's get into all Saint Nick.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
For the holes.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
So the legend of Santa Claus can be traced back
to a monk named Saint Nicholas Ye who was born
in Turkey, and Saint Nicholas he gave away all his
inherited wealth, right, and he traveled the countryside helping the
porn sick. Yeah, he was like a backpacker, and so
a lot of it was like the children and sailors
and sailors are prostitute adjacent. So that's why people say

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he was the patron saint of prostitutes. But that that's
sort of where it came from. And then through all
the different like language translations from like Turkey to Italy
to countries, by the time.

Speaker 1 (23:26):
You found the border story, you ain't even found a
story to the us of Santa Claus. So he was
also a pill I you didn't get the.

Speaker 4 (23:35):
The pimp part was that he was protecting sailors and
sailors like, no, no, no, you did, no, no no, you didn't
see the part about his daughters.

Speaker 6 (23:42):
No, no, no, what's that part?

Speaker 1 (23:43):
Oh? Ship? See? I knew you found something else?

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Now was this was Santa Claus? Did Santa Claus mean
other ship? In different areas in Europe? Because I know
if story was about.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
What Piet Okay, here we go. You already who was
saying Nicholas Nick, Here's here's the st Nicholas.

Speaker 5 (24:04):
Sorry, Santa Claus?

Speaker 1 (24:06):
What is Santa Claus? What are you?

Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's in the Dutch Santa Claus their folklore? Are you
doing an except?

Speaker 6 (24:15):
And he was, But that's how but it got translated
to different languages and then they.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Put their on twist.

Speaker 6 (24:21):
Well, no, this one talk about and in America it
got worse worse.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
No, no, no, this one, this one is the legend,
which that's why I don't know which one you found.
So this one, according to the legend.

Speaker 6 (24:33):
One and the daughters, daughters listen.

Speaker 1 (24:36):
So the connection between Christmas and prostitution sims from legends
about Old Saint Nick basically Santa Claus, and one of
the most famous stories, he saved three sisters from being
forced into prostitution by providing them with a dowry through
gifts of gold tossed down their chimney, which then landed

(24:59):
in the stockings. So he saved them from having to
be prostitutes by going ahead and just dropping them. Yeah,
he dropped a bag and then I think he did
end up showing up, and you know, he poked all
of them because he said, baby, he said that was me.

Speaker 6 (25:16):
I paid for that.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
He said, that was me, it says. Another connection is
found in the biblical story of Rahab, where a prostitute
who was included in the genealogy of Jesus made her
part of the Christmas story itself. But basically the Gospel
of Matthew geniality of Jesus includes rab a prostitute from
Jericho who helped the Israelites spies escape the city. And

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so you have prostitutes was out here helping these niggas
and it's just it's the oldest.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
But he said them free.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
He didn't know. I added to the story that he
wasn't got that he wasn't just like nothing he ain't
doing for Men don't just get money for nothing. They
don't even take. Hey, hey, ladies, you get a gift
from a man this holiday season? He want something. If
you ain't give him nothing yet, he won't it you
gonna owe before the year in okay? Well no, but yeah,

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that's the connection that I saw, And I was like,
oh damn, that's kind of crazy.

Speaker 4 (26:14):
But it's it's kind of ill the way like as
the it got passed down from country to country, person
to person, it.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
All changed and eventually, but regardless of telephone.

Speaker 3 (26:23):
But then the Santa Claus even the concept of it,
and then you have the other narrative from the Bible.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
It's like, what's the narrative from the Bible? Sena Claus
is not in the Bible.

Speaker 3 (26:34):
No, no, I'm saying you have that thing happening with Santa Claus,
then you have the Jesus birthday right, even that part allegedly,
and then the purpose of it, right the three King.

Speaker 1 (26:45):
None of it makes sense because Jesus wasn't born in
no cold.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
It was like April, did you make some boyfriend tell
you that?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
You said, what, No, never mind, We're not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
We're not gonna do that.

Speaker 1 (26:56):
So wait, where did Santa Claus come from? In the States?

Speaker 6 (26:59):
So in the they no, it's from Coca Cola.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
Bit so I got a cartoonist, a cartoonist, so again
it kept getting dragged from country to country, changed and
then a cartoonist did a drawing with like the red
suit and the beery thing, and that's how you got
like that that image.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
And then he became popularized as early as nineteen thirty one,
but through commercials, specifically Coca Cola. That's crazy. That's really crazy.
Also what it's what else is crazy? Random fact? I
was last month, I was on Isaac Kay's podcast talking
about fan base and things like that.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Did you know that Elon Musk is valued that has more.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Money than Coca Cola? The brand more money? There did
y'all know that he is. Could I could?

Speaker 6 (27:49):
I didn't know, but that doesn't sound surprising.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
Hold on Coca, like, look up, look up the value
of Coca cola real quick.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Let's see four hundred trillion gazillion, and then he got
five hundred gazillion coatrillion.

Speaker 1 (27:59):
Oh no, it's like almost double.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
So value of Coca cola is approximately as of early
twenty twenty twenty five, is forty six point three billion.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
You ready, four hundred and seventy billion.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
Jesus, we haves multiple businesses too.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Bruh, bruh. No, man should have then Coca cola that
should been out since the eighteen hundreds. And then they
got all the plapers they do. They got vanilla cherry.

Speaker 2 (28:26):
Or the Mexican coke diet.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Yeah, that's the one that comes into glass right, Yeah,
like a man making mode and Coca cola is Crazee's crazy.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
You're not find interesting about the whole Christmas thing too,
is that it's so like for Christians, Easter was the
big holiday, and so it's true to keep because Easter
was you know, Jesus death right, and so Christians is
supposed to be his birth's birth. Yeah, this is gonna
sound weird, but it reminds me of like with like
with Biggie. Right, we celebrate Biggie's death for a few years,
they try to move it to his birth and try

(28:59):
to make the celebration there, but it just didn't take off,
you know. And so it's like in like the whole
history of things to give Jesus like his birth and
that ain't even I know, But for them to like
manage that and do that, that's that's kind of impressive.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, he had good pr Well, if.

Speaker 6 (29:18):
People want to make some money, I want to make
some money.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
Definitely want to make some money branding. They had to
look at the holiday calendar.

Speaker 6 (29:23):
You know what I mean, the December fifth, It was
just randomly picked.

Speaker 3 (29:27):
So we're just picking parts of these these folklore and
just building some ship to make money off of it.
Because even even the concept of the Santa Claus given
the sex workers, that's money down the chimney, and that
concept we are the sex workers. They were given gifts. Yeah,
we are receiving gifts, but.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
That technically us technically technically the children a sex workers.
But we're not gonna get it.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, we're not diding the topic out.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
We the wholes. Literally, there's a reason why you need
to say that. Oh hose. Anyway, let's just go ahead
and get into this as America while we're here.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
Don't got your sleeping Where do we want to start?

Speaker 1 (30:07):
Produced? Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (30:08):
That says we got I was gonna say, we got
into all the history of do you want to get into?

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Like the crazies? I love it? Yeah? Who should we
start with?

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Y'all old as hell? So do you y'all?

Speaker 1 (30:16):
Was y'all the Christmas crazies of the seventies that where
are we? So cy?

Speaker 6 (30:22):
Mine was I think like Transformers?

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Mine was.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
Ooh took me Almo.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
No, actually really for Christmas? The crazes I could I
can name down the list. So the Easy Bake Oven
was huge. Berbies, yeah, Berbies were really big. Brat's dolls
were big in my era, which is crazy. They came
back and I have an ice fights one but chia
pets yeahs.

Speaker 2 (30:52):
And they had all the chia pets were big.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Oh and then the the nanos, the nano babies where
you had the little doll, you had a little animal
that you have to keep alive and needs to ship.
Giga pets, the giga pets and if they shot too much,
if I don't, like, they died. Like it was crazy
to be like, literally, I'm in school just making sure
I clean up ship all day. That was the god

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damn game on a gigapet, like and they would stack
like little Hershey's kisses. That's crazy.

Speaker 6 (31:22):
It's like setting people up to be like blue collar
workers literally.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Like I gotta I gotta pick up ship all day
for my gigapet, or he dies and you gotta feed him.
You gotta feed him, and then he shipped and then
you gotta yeah, or or he dies. I guess it
helped you train to keep a head alive. But the
gigapet was a big thing. And I think that's that's
really what I remember. Now, let's get into y'all at

(31:48):
your sketch. That was my era too, I would say,
at your sketch, And also, what's the other one where
you put the lights in and it creates, right, and
then the razors, the razors and then the things I
used to shoot.

Speaker 6 (32:08):
Actually just found my razor scooter in my parents' garage.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
That's ridiculous.

Speaker 6 (32:11):
Yeah, it's like a month ago my parents.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't know, well, I guess you could bring
it back.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
They brought scooters back. Yeah, overall, what about y'all? Yeah,
I don't know what was it? Was it the eighties
or seven?

Speaker 5 (32:20):
I was, I was. I was simple with it.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I just wanted the newest video game because I knew
throughout the year mon's impossible that they you know, they
work on so I knew the end of the year
was the the law probability was on my side, and
I'll get that ship. So I wanted to get whatever
the fly is video game console that was out, and money.
I would get cards, I would get cars, I would

(32:43):
get I would get it, and then that became a
thing like I'm gonna get some money. I'm get a
little two hundred dollars collectively, they gave you money on Christmas?

Speaker 1 (32:50):
My god, wealthy.

Speaker 5 (32:53):
I grew up in the projects. No, no, no, you got.

Speaker 6 (32:56):
To say what that denomination was the twenties.

Speaker 3 (32:59):
You never I'm if I got two hundred dollars, it
was like a thousand dollars. It was like ship collectively electively,
not I know, it was like you got money, go
buy some ship with the two you know.

Speaker 5 (33:09):
That was cool. But I definitely wanted to.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
In the eighties, even when I got money.

Speaker 3 (33:14):
From the early nineties. But and then my brother he
was in the military. I remember one when one Christmas
he sent me this ship called the Omnibot, and I
don't think I still have it, but it was a
robot that would.

Speaker 4 (33:26):
Serve your own Yeah, robots always so you could radio
shock robots.

Speaker 5 (33:30):
You would listen robots. Anybody know what that is?

Speaker 4 (33:36):
You know?

Speaker 5 (33:37):
I can't.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
I would look so so basically you had a remote,
I could send Omnibot to the kitchen. My mom could
put like my drink in the in the in this
in his hands like in a holder, and then bring
that ship right back to me in my room.

Speaker 1 (33:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:50):
It was like, yeah, and the only fifty this one
pre old look at that five hundred.

Speaker 1 (33:57):
That's what I'm saying, not rob anybody got an omnibox
at me?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
Me?

Speaker 5 (34:01):
I want that.

Speaker 1 (34:01):
Wait a second, a king, I didn't know you grew
up privilege.

Speaker 5 (34:05):
That's not privilege.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
But at this point, it would be like the end
of the year, so it's like the whole it's the
one time it will be better than your birthday.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
Yeah. I used to be into technology and like quirky ship.

Speaker 5 (34:17):
But I didn't.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
I wasn't an extra I didn't want all this extra
clothes sneak and I just wanted to video game ship
and just fun dope ship rotate. But when I got now,
I got into my later teams. I would take money
and I would go to the records buying music.

Speaker 6 (34:31):
Now now like oh ship, Yeah, I don't think I
got it.

Speaker 3 (34:35):
Was like, you know, it definitely got less of like
it got less you could work now it got yeah,
job you got that job you ain't save no money?

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Yeah, it was. It was like shoots. Electronics became a
big thing when I got older, So like DVD players, right,
you wanted to see players stuff like that for electronics,
just watching and listening to independently.

Speaker 5 (34:55):
Yeah. Bikes, bikes were huge bikes.

Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah yeah, I used to my my taste budgs changed
so much. My grandma used to every Christmas get me
chocolate covered cherries. And those are the most disgusting things
to me now, But I used to love, like the
goop comes out of it and there's literally a cherry
in side. Chocolate covered cherries were my thing, Like that's

(35:19):
the thing. I ain't growing up very like, you know,
so we got I got basic ship like candy I
got I think I share one one. One Christmas, I
literally got the coldest winter ever booked and he got
Game DVD. That was my Christmas and I got it
not wrapped up. My mom stepped in the bag, a
food line bag. Yeah that was a rough Christmas.

Speaker 3 (35:42):
But yeah, looking the best, you know, it still made
sure that you know there was something there.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Yeah, I remember that one. We didn't even wake up
and then we ain't even made that whole cookies that night.
We was like, we know, it's nothing happening.

Speaker 5 (35:55):
Age did you find out that it was? First?

Speaker 1 (35:57):
What age? Did I find out that Santa Claus was fake?

Speaker 5 (36:00):
Was bullshit? Sorry for those who listening think it's still thinks.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Nobody better being think Santa Claus's fake. This is an
older audience. They're a little bit but toured.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
These are all Santa Clauses listening to the goddamn I.

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Want to go younger now, right because like social media,
like people they know they know it's.

Speaker 1 (36:16):
Their parents, they know it's their parents. So it was
early for me. It was early, like probably elementary school.

Speaker 4 (36:22):
My daughter's eight and she still believes it so I
don't know what the timeline is.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
What she's ate and believes it.

Speaker 6 (36:29):
It's not she on social media for to get like spoiled.
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:33):
But in school, there's a picture of me sitting.

Speaker 6 (36:35):
On not ask not a lot of assholes.

Speaker 3 (36:37):
I'm getting my music teacher, will you sugdressed it with
Santa Claus And there's a picture of me on his lap.

Speaker 1 (36:43):
Pause.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
I think maybe I share it when we post this stuff.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
But I mean the photosta it's cool.

Speaker 5 (36:49):
It's like it's star in the mind with kids. You
know kids, you're like, all right, not knocking it.

Speaker 1 (36:53):
I'm just no, Now, let me ask both of you.
Here's the problematic question. We know the history, but you know,
niggas just drew a picture. Yeah, is Santa Claus Puerto Rican?
Is he black? Is he white? Like? Do y'all that
clip like like do you even you let your kids
take photos with white Santa?

Speaker 6 (37:14):
My kid doesn't do the photo thing.

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
My kid thinks everybody is like Indian.

Speaker 4 (37:18):
It's like it's like everything always that all about it.
I think it's like from India. No, I think my like,
my daughter clearly knows that like her skin is different
than white kids. But she's like hasn't formed her, like
she hasn't wrapped it around around it. So it's like
when book Fair comes or booked it, like Jose grabs
Indian stuff, Native American stuff.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
No, like.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Indian like wait, wait, like you had it, you just
wanted to do this.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:51):
But there was a clip of that newscaster when she
was like, Santa is white. She's look on Fox News
and she kept on like debating people. She was like
Santa is.

Speaker 6 (37:58):
White, and she kept doing her hand like that white
white and she.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Was just fighting China. Yeah, exactly, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (38:05):
That's weird imagery, right.

Speaker 6 (38:08):
Turkish.

Speaker 2 (38:10):
So that he definitely would have had a little tan.

Speaker 1 (38:12):
Definitely, he definitely would have had a little It's just
like waiting in the Bible about like a hair texture
and skin, Like your skin is outlive and your hair
is like you know, the mic is in front of
Your skin is olive and your hair is like wool.

Speaker 6 (38:24):
And white people just like selectively like choose it know
that part.

Speaker 1 (38:29):
No, no, no, they don't selectively choose to ignore it.
They rewrite it like they rewrite it. They sit here
and again I've talked about that they're removing critical race
theory for a reason. Trump is going into these museums
like yeah, I don't think history happen that way.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
Take this ship up out of here, like Niggas is like.

Speaker 6 (38:50):
But that's the history of no no, no, but.

Speaker 1 (38:52):
White power selectively ignoring nothing. They are rewriting it and
choosing to push then just didn't exist.

Speaker 4 (39:00):
I agree with that, but I mean specifically, like when
they're reading Bible passages, because that hasn't changed. It's like
they don't connect it too. And two, like olive skin,
they just think it's like, oh, smooth, you know, that's.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Been my big my biggest thing. And okay, call me
ignorant if you want, don't care. Brought this up on
another podcast a couple months ago. It's why and maybe
maybe you can answer this.

Speaker 6 (39:21):
She's pointing to the black.

Speaker 1 (39:25):
I don't understand knowing that how we as Afriking Americans
and even I mean my Caribbean culture too, Jamaicans. I
don't know how black people adopted Christianity when a lot
of the slave masters were Christians. A lot of the

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stories in the Bible, a lot of the depictions we
depict them as white.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
People we continued, we are part of the problem too,
because we had an opportunity to repair.

Speaker 1 (39:57):
By independence.

Speaker 3 (39:58):
We have all the information right, even even the construct
of African American should be challenged. Explain because that term
that it wasn't introduced until Jesse Jackson introduced in nineteen
eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Well it replaced color.

Speaker 3 (40:11):
But now we talked about removing people from their true
status in this country as indigenous Americans because a lot
of us can't trace nothing back to anyone else. Now
there are some that but I haven't seen it, and
I'm not telling about.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
The social media. We're not gonna do that.

Speaker 3 (40:27):
We're not going to please they're not going to do
the whoever, listen, stop, talk to your grand mama's and
your granddaddy's and your great grades and you'll get the
oral history there and then you start there. But all
of these constructs contribute to the problem. But I feel
like and I don't want to blame our eldest because
they did the best they could what they had. But
I think is our responsibility to to learn and unlearned

(40:50):
and relearn.

Speaker 5 (40:50):
This whole shit.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
I just don't so like of like, you can't tell
me a Santa claus education.

Speaker 3 (40:57):
You know what I mean, knowledge after colonization, and we
know about this thanksgiving. You know, even if we take
that from from from that level, Santa Course is gonna
come in the hood and fucking Augusta Georgia and oh
with all this law.

Speaker 1 (41:11):
What a white man coming down the chimney to give kid? Like,
That's what I'm saying, like.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
The fact that you and I know it sounds crazy,
but think about in modern times.

Speaker 1 (41:21):
I looked in the projects.

Speaker 3 (41:23):
He gotta go pissy elevator, the stairwell, like before he
gets there, it's gonna be hey, yo, what hey, what up?

Speaker 5 (41:31):
What you're doing? Right? It's so many different things that
don't make sense.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
I don't underparticipate it and we don't. But I don't
understand how well it's so easy and situations so easy,
and what about you know what, like we can get
into that can you said? You celebrate what? Well?

Speaker 6 (41:47):
I understand even like Puerto Rican Christmas time is way different.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
Well even Kwanza, it's a contest. It is a construct.
All of this ship is right, and that's nothing bad
about it. It was intentionally done in the sixties and
it was focusing on principles right, each day there's a
particular principle that reflects on community and responsibility and all
the different things. And there's no gift giving. You know,
they do the gift giving a form of you know,

(42:12):
you put like fruits and stuff like that. You could
do little gifts, but it's intentional things. It's not like
material things.

Speaker 1 (42:17):
So it's Kwanza essentially. Then African Americans removing ideology.

Speaker 5 (42:24):
Or or not really removing.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
It's just it's just an alternate, okay, right, because some
people don't believe the stories.

Speaker 1 (42:32):
That which is what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (42:33):
I just think or it doesn't resonate with them.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Should have happened with Christianity.

Speaker 1 (42:37):
And I mean respectfully for those respectfully you know not.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
Santa Claus has nothing to do with Christianity right right
as we know this because we talked about it like
it has nothing clause, right, that's talked about it. That
has nothing to do with it. But people don't celebrate Christmas.
Even in the construct of Jesus' birthday. We don't do
that because nowhere it said that Jesus.

Speaker 1 (42:59):
Was you know, well, no, the wise men brought the gifts.
That's where it's essentially the gift giving also comes from.

Speaker 4 (43:05):
But the gift was a lot of the US shit
element of it too, Like like there was so a
lot of it from when I.

Speaker 6 (43:10):
Looked up research.

Speaker 4 (43:11):
It's like it had to do with like year end stuff, right,
and so like the Christmas dinner, it was really like
people with farms being like, Yo, I'm not gonna feed
and house these cattle over the winter time, so fuck
are we gonna kill him on and eat it?

Speaker 1 (43:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (43:24):
So it was like it was much more just like
convenience and like happenstance. And then like when it came
from like Europe to the.

Speaker 6 (43:30):
US, it kind of changes to stuff.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
To me, it's like even when what you're starting to
get into and kind of like what you're finishing, like
the way that information passes down from the family to fly.

Speaker 6 (43:39):
I do worry about.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
That a lot, and especially like now with the kids,
like worrying how it passes over.

Speaker 6 (43:44):
So like I don't like the worst thing.

Speaker 4 (43:46):
My biggest fear is like I don't want my kid
to just be like a New Jersey girl, you know
what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (43:50):
I want her to feel.

Speaker 4 (43:51):
Like she's Persian and Puerto Rican and the things that
got passed on to me, continue to pass that and
for her, she's gonna have an end because too. But
like sometimes I feel like we don't pass things down
like enough and like legitimate ways, and.

Speaker 5 (44:03):
Then I don't know where to.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
I don't know if it's like like you said, like
you're not trying to blame elders. So it's like I
don't know if it's elders. I don't know if it's us,
like it's.

Speaker 5 (44:10):
A I think it's a. I mean it's it's not.
It's not one thing.

Speaker 6 (44:13):
It multi link in the changes.

Speaker 1 (44:15):
I mean part of me.

Speaker 4 (44:16):
What's responsibility, it's willful igorance. It's more of the wilful
and like you know what you're.

Speaker 1 (44:21):
Doing and not showing your children certain things. It's not
going to become a traditional or not.

Speaker 4 (44:26):
Going to listen, but hey, they have fun, but you
have to keep it alive.

Speaker 5 (44:32):
It's not realistic.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
And I'm joking a little bit with like the American Italian,
but it's there. It's like there's not like the real
connection back right, And it's like I got homies who
are like Jamaican, and I'm like, when's the last time
you you like been back like and it's like that
shit ain't dumb know.

Speaker 1 (44:45):
Well to be fair too from an economic standpoint a
lot like it does cost a lot as well.

Speaker 6 (44:49):
But I'm not saying to go for vacation. I'm talking
about like go back like once every ten years, go.

Speaker 4 (44:54):
Back to connect it's your roots, you know what I mean,
and the things that you experience like it comes from somewhere,
you know what I mean, Like I eat this food
and comes from this way, from this place, and so
it's like to just never be there, never tie down
to it, or to like your point, like to just
remove yourselves. Yeah, partaking like now it sounds like it's
not like Bernie Sanders ship, but it's like to just

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participate in a capitalistic exercise and be removed from like
the culture element of it, like it does sound.

Speaker 3 (45:21):
That's why when you go to certain regions of states
and then they have something that reminds you of where
you're from your city food wise, yes, it's like, oh shit,
I gotta check it out because you know it's reminiscent like.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
Portland if they have a chop cheese ship for the Bronx. No, no, no,
I'm not gonna I'm not eating cheese anywhere they.

Speaker 3 (45:43):
And I will not and I'm not going to. I
love my atl I love y'all, but that's no. You
wouldn't want to do that if I go to Atlanta.
That's that's insane. That's why I did it, though, because
I get it.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
No chop cheese over off the belt line.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Yo, No, I've been making it in my house.

Speaker 1 (46:01):
If that line already gentrified, you about to have a
chot cheet. They bought a New York Daily down.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
Man, I see New York style pizza.

Speaker 1 (46:08):
Well yeah, oh, they got a whole place called Chicago Pizza.
But it turned into a club one. Yeah, I did.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I didn't want to talk about even though this is not.

Speaker 1 (46:19):
I do like the sales towards the end of the year,
take advantage. We're not doing that. They actually said we
should be boycotting that because of the government shut down
this year. Anyways, let's get into a little bit of sports,
a little bit of entertainment, a little bit of the
things that come around the holiday season.

Speaker 6 (46:35):
And yeah, can I set up the sports? So you know,
in Thanksgiving we talked.

Speaker 4 (46:40):
Because I wanted to, you know, and Thanksgiving we had
talked about football and so for Christmas time, it was
the NBA. You watch basketball, it's like it's five games
that they would always say, like the NBA season starts
on Christmas Day, but since I actually.

Speaker 1 (46:54):
Think it starts after All Star weekend, but I'll give
Christmas dash.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
But since last year that's been challenging with like the
Beyonce Bowl and the NFL is like they eating They're
trying to eat the NBA's lunch.

Speaker 3 (47:04):
Well.

Speaker 1 (47:04):
Also they now also added a tournament for the NBA.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
And that's kind of in response to the NFL. It's
so funny.

Speaker 4 (47:12):
So I used to work on seven PM in Brooklyn
with Carmelo and Merrow and we asked Mellow about this.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Okay, I want to want to see what mellow Mellow.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
We asked them about the NFL trying to eat into
the NBA's lunch on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (47:26):
Please kid that the NFL is going to play games
on Christmas.

Speaker 5 (47:29):
Now, yeah, got here.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
This is a whole moment.

Speaker 7 (47:32):
Y'all got Thanksgiving, y'all got that day to Christmas, y'all
own Sunday's Church, and y'all Sunday, and y'all got Thursday night,
and y'all got Monday night, Saturday.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
Saturday, come on Christmas Mondays.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
For that?

Speaker 4 (47:56):
Yeah, that, and I want to point out that's him
getting mad. Mellow never talks like that, right, So when
that came up, I was like, Yo, he really don't.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
Like this ship. But but yeah, Netflix is eating into.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
It's crazy though too, because it depends what game, it
depends how good of a team that you're on as well.
I knew a lot of players that hated that they
never liked Christmas with their family, like because they always
had a game or were traveling or were away.

Speaker 4 (48:22):
So but the ones that I talked to, they but
last year, what did you watch last year? Did you
watch basketball games?

Speaker 6 (48:27):
Or did you watch the Netflix football games?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
That was the one where Mariah Carey sang.

Speaker 4 (48:31):
The Beyonce halftime performance, and it was the Netflix. It
was the Texans and the Ravens. Last year was the
first one, Shabouzi, I think that the well.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
Well no, they all came out right. I watched it.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I watched it, but again, it's Christmas. So I went
to my homegirl house and also watched Next Friday, like
I whatever.

Speaker 5 (48:50):
Was on TJ.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
I watched you. Did you watch it?

Speaker 5 (48:53):
Though?

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Did you this is this is I did because she
had that Denim Ountain next to that white man who
was who was the white man?

Speaker 4 (48:58):
Christmas game? This ain't the super Bowl. This is just
a Christmas game. It was even that greater game. And
Netflix threw money to this.

Speaker 1 (49:11):
I'm not I'm not, I'm not mad at it. It
is nuts, I think, I.

Speaker 4 (49:19):
Will say, but the ratings last year, I will say
it's because jay Z could have done this for the NBA.

Speaker 1 (49:26):
Interesting, jay Z left the NBA. He to be fair,
he did only he did only own like less than
a percent of the Brooklyn.

Speaker 5 (49:36):
Nets, right, but he helped usher in.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
He helped usher In going into Brooklyn. Right. So what
we're seeing him do in terms of the Super Bowl
halftime performances.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Seeing what he's not doing because he has more.

Speaker 1 (49:49):
Which is also crazy because allegedly he had to sell
his stake of the New Jersey Nets, sorry the Brooklyn Nets.
He had to sell his stakes because he became an
agency Rock Nation Sports.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
So I'm not sure how it's different with the rules
and whatever he's doing over with the NFL, But how
did he stay But had he stayed with stayed with
the NBA, I think we would have seen a lot
of things like this, like I.

Speaker 6 (50:17):
Have as interesting.

Speaker 1 (50:19):
But it's also interesting for me too because for him
to leave a league that is predominantly black, A lot
of the performances that All Star Weekend are black, might
you know, it was really interesting that he felt the
need to go over to a league that didn't want
black players to to.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
Kneel that, you know what I mean, there is more.

Speaker 1 (50:38):
Money, but also with what the NBA is doing currently
right now, which the NFL is kind of trying to do,
but it's gonna take them a little bit longer because
it's such an American sport. Bro the NBA is global.
The NBA now has preseason, they're moving it from they
were just doing it in Abu Dhabi. They're now moving
it to Macau, sou Korea, Abu Dhabi. I think they're

(50:59):
bringing something inside America and London. As of right now,
the NFL is trying it. They're doing it in London
and Brazil, but it's gonna take a lot longer because
NFL football is not respected globally because it's an American,
straight up American sport. Basketball is not. And so I
just feel like as a capitalist because that's what he

(51:19):
is he's a fucking billionaire for a reason. I think
jay Z could have put more efforts and made the
NBA just as great as what he's doing with the NFL.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
And I still think there's an opportunity for the NBA
to do the same thing. Doesn't doesn't need jay Z
to do that. Okay, the amount of millionaires ballot, you
can't tell me.

Speaker 5 (51:39):
And this is no.

Speaker 3 (51:39):
I love these guys like Carmelo, d Wade, even Lebron,
collective of group. They they bid for teams in other
other sports, right, yeah, go to go to commissioner like
you look, man, That's that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (51:54):
Because Tracy, what I know, Tracey McGrady and Vince Carter
are now part owners of the bills you have.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
I mean J Cole has J Cole has a stake
in the.

Speaker 5 (52:03):
Short in the balcony.

Speaker 3 (52:10):
I mean, okay, okay, even before you even touch those guys,
there's so many you could take five randoms they got,
They got the capital, yo commission that we want to
impact change in the in the halftime or even in
the holiday portion of.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
Well, because what we've been seeing, which is crazy.

Speaker 1 (52:25):
Happen is I think they should from a capitalistic standpoint.

Speaker 5 (52:29):
Two point two percent.

Speaker 1 (52:31):
NFL now adding the performance on halftime, it's interesting because
what's been the conversation for the last three years around
All Star is that nobody's watching anymore. Tendance is down,
it's not the same.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
And the NFL wants to do halftime a weekend All
Star weekend like that. Really, NFL is just.

Speaker 5 (52:51):
We know what's happened.

Speaker 3 (52:52):
I think what happened to they probably want to implement
like a Pro Bowl style situation because yeah, but I
think was killing the NBA Star Game is a slam
dunk contest. That's because it's because and there's certain people
that haven't participated that probably could have moved the needle
a little bit to where we are to into twenty twenty.

Speaker 1 (53:13):
And let me tell you right now, the athletes ain't
got to be scared of breaking nothing more. I don't
know what medicine they're doing.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
But have y'all seen Jason Tatum and Damian Lillard.

Speaker 6 (53:21):
Yeah, they're walking around.

Speaker 1 (53:22):
Oh baby, it's crazy, donkey. They're like yo when I
hear it, like like asty out there, like both of
them are supposed to be playing by January.

Speaker 2 (53:31):
By next week, by next month they might both be
on the court.

Speaker 3 (53:34):
What I was like, now when they I bet, oh
he's coming back, He's not even now he'd be all right.

Speaker 1 (53:40):
There's something like the medicine right now, whatever they got
them boys is healing.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
I let a coach say one time, he's like, Yo,
you want to tell your a cl early in the
game's gonna be way better after because of the technology
they have to hear.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Okay, Well, I wouldn't say. I won't go that far.
I was just saying, christ.

Speaker 5 (53:59):
If you watch, he's gonna see the decline early.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
Yo.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
That dude is a maniac. It's like he never broke
his ship. You just you just got it. You just
got so. I want the Nix to win the championship
this because when Tatum come back, can you stop hearing
this table that does not I'm getting listening experience. When
Tatum come back, he's gonna be fucking He's gonna go down.
Oh yeah, they're winning.

Speaker 4 (54:22):
But we were talking about NFL and NBA because that's
a tradition, so to pivot.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
But also what we're not gonna do is turn this
in say oh my god, I want the next to win.

Speaker 6 (54:32):
I'm trying to pivot.

Speaker 1 (54:33):
I was trying to pivot into tradition.

Speaker 5 (54:34):
I want, I want the message.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
Movies and music. While we're on we got these hats song.

Speaker 6 (54:39):
We have these hat songs while.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
We're on entertainment classic movies again. For me, I think,
is it next Friday or Friday after next? That's when
I watch. I do want to shout out Christmas movie
that just released this year, released last month on November seventh.
Shout out to Lil Rell, Tabitha Brown. There's there's a
few other actors in it as well filled the director.
It's called Unexpected Christmiths. It is new IP and it

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is done so well. It's an independent black movie, black film,
black studio that it came out with. I think Three
Diamonds is the production company. But shout out because I
went to a screening and saw it last month and
it was great. So if you haven't seen it yet,
y'all check out Unexpected Christmas. For me, I'm not big

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on Christmas movies.

Speaker 6 (55:27):
I'll they be cheesy.

Speaker 1 (55:30):
That's why I shout it out one that actually wasn't cheesy.
They'll be too cheesy for me, and I feel like,
you know, waste my my money I could make more,
waste my time, I can't get it back, And so
Christmas movies just haven't ever really captured me. Now gonna
hold you. I do like Grinch and all the things
around Grinch, but that's about it. I don't know y'all

(55:51):
want to talk about y'all favorite goddamn Christmas.

Speaker 4 (55:53):
I like how the streamers make it like the Christmas
like the classic movie. I like the classic ones, but
they're so white, and that the this the streamers may
get so you have like on Netflix is mad like
South African Christmas joints.

Speaker 6 (56:05):
Wait what yeah? The list like, are you sure South Africa?

Speaker 1 (56:08):
South Africa?

Speaker 6 (56:09):
They're white in South but this is.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
This is the colors in South. But what this is,
this is what fucking taler todas they still call they
say colors.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
Was very specifically saying that I don't like the whole
or even like you know, you know Rodney, you know
Rodney Rikai.

Speaker 6 (56:28):
Of course he's in a Christmas movie.

Speaker 3 (56:30):
Yes, yes, dope, it's like a two B joint, but
it's it's dope.

Speaker 6 (56:36):
You get you get to see those.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
I wanted to ask y'all a music better than let's
get so let's see how time. What is your favorite
Christmas album?

Speaker 6 (56:49):
I'm about to be mad old but Jackson five Christmas.

Speaker 1 (56:52):
Album, Okay, favorite song from that.

Speaker 6 (56:55):
I saw Mommy kissing Santa Claus.

Speaker 1 (56:58):
Oh okay, Jackson the vocals, Okay, yeah, because I'm not
here for the everyone doing the fucking jingle bells jingle like,
I want some original Christmas music. Hey, can you give
me your favorite Christmas album? And then I'm gonna give
you all mind.

Speaker 5 (57:08):
I'm gonna be honest. I don't have a favorite Christmas album.

Speaker 3 (57:11):
But but but on my Caribbean side, a lot of Caribbean,
there's a lot of old school reggaeld old.

Speaker 6 (57:18):
School, the clips, the Calypso Christmas vibes, immaculate.

Speaker 4 (57:23):
I have a playlist at my homegirl put together Ellis
Ellis Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:30):
Yeah, so like when you that was, That's what I remember,
you know what I mean when I hold on to
that dose.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
So I don't have a particular Okay, Okay, I'm gonna
give the most millennial answer here, and I don't care close.
B two K Okay, yeah. B two K has a
Christmas album and it's like love song music but also
like break up music around the holidays, like it's so good.
So they have this one. Why did you leave me?

(57:55):
Why'd you leave me on this Christmas? Why did you go?
Go and listen? It's cute, it's cute. Had to get you.
It's like he yells all these gifts that are now aged,
like the DK n Y purse. Who is asking for
a DK and Y right now? But DK and why?
When I was in motherfucking middle school that was this ship.

Speaker 4 (58:17):
Yeah, oh you got a little DK and you have
to have status to to do Christmas albums.

Speaker 6 (58:22):
Now everybody says it because's the money grab.

Speaker 1 (58:24):
That you had to have status to k they were
then to do and and they all had. There was
in a present on the album cover like it was
they did that one, They did that big one.

Speaker 2 (58:36):
If you haven't listened yet, and if you.

Speaker 1 (58:38):
You're rolling your eyes at me, suck my dick from
the back, go listen to B two K's Christmas album
hit me in my d MS and then be like, bitch,
you was right, thank you, thank you. I'm putting you
on for the holiday season. If you don't know album
he did, okay because Players Ball.

Speaker 4 (58:57):
It was a Christmas music video about pimps.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Sorry, all right, well let's go ahead and get into
and celebrities say the darness things. Y'all. We're just gonna
you know, Trump is president, but he is a celebrity and
all that shit. I do want to know your thoughts
on this because it is interesting.

Speaker 6 (59:17):
And the Trump thing, this was before he ran to
This is part of the stuff he was.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Trump has come out on record and said I love Christmas.
You go to stores now and it doesn't say Christmas.
It says happy Holidays all over, and I say, where's Christmas?
I tell my wife, don't go to those stores. I
want to see Christmas. Other people can have their holidays,
but Christmas is Christmas. I want to see Merry Christmas.

(59:44):
Remember the expression merry Christmas. You don't see it, You're
going to see it if I'm elected now. I believe
this ties deep into him leaning into his Christianity values
and beliefs because a lot of things and what I
saw growing up was them removing it and just putting
Xmas because they felt.

Speaker 6 (01:00:04):
Like Christ, you're.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Taking Christ out of it, and so growing up, a
lot of them put Xmas before it got into this
happy holidays bullshit. His way to include everybody who may
not be who may not be Christian, which I think
is valid. It's also interesting, but he said.

Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
This commercial holiday. Yeah, but I think it's so well by.

Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Twenty twenty five, this nigga's like Heaven, I ain't going there.
I'm gonna go to hell.

Speaker 2 (01:00:28):
Yeah, he ain't, said a Ghastley draws part.

Speaker 1 (01:00:32):
But he led in his literal election and his campaigning
into him being this Christian man, and now y'a out
here like, yeah, y'all know, I ain't even go to heaven.
It's crazy, it's diabolical, it's nonsense for me. I'm sure
Mariah Carey is still number one. We're not ever gonna

(01:00:54):
get Mariah carry to sing like how she used to
sing again. But let's just get into submit. I got
some good ones because I know people ain't at work,
they with their family, they with their children. You know,
podcast views dip around this time of year any goddamn way.
So yeah, let's go ahead and get into that and
then get up out of you so I could go
back to sleep.

Speaker 6 (01:01:11):
Some good ones here that we should do a couple
of them. I I want to get your taste.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
A couple too. I just said, let's try to get
out of it.

Speaker 6 (01:01:17):
Got you okay?

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
So this one.

Speaker 4 (01:01:20):
Am I ignorant for not changing holiday plans so my
wife can see her family?

Speaker 6 (01:01:25):
This is already yes, and her travel no.

Speaker 4 (01:01:29):
So my wife and I have been married for ten
years and have two kids sixty three. We moved to
a new city for my wife's job before we have kids,
so we're no longer close to our families. My parents
also moved after they retired, so now we would have
to fly to go see our families, so we came
up with a plan to rotate holidays every other. Of course,
the last couple of years we've not seen either of them.

(01:01:49):
So two years ago pandemic and it was supposed to
be my family's year, but we didn't travel for Christmas
because we didn't want to travel with their youngest.

Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
Last year my wife's, but we didn't travel for pandemic.

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
So it's supposed to be his family.

Speaker 4 (01:02:00):
So this year, excited to see my family, we booked
our flights have really been looking forward to it. My
wife was on board until a few weeks ago. She
was talking to her mom one day and the mother
in law mentioned that all of her wife, all of
his wife's siblings were coming to be in one place,
and they're scattered all across the US. It's rare to
to together in one place. So when she found that out,
she felt left out and asked if they could switch

(01:02:23):
the plans to see the family instead, even though he's
saying plans have been established together.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
So he told her no. She said he's being a
jerk about it.

Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
He should be more understanding of the desire to see family,
And he told her not going to change plans.

Speaker 6 (01:02:38):
But you can travel alone to go see your family.

Speaker 1 (01:02:42):
You know, it's crazy to see the ignorant one. You
know it's crazy the question in the subject line, No,
the question of the subject line, I would say you ignorant,
because I believe ignorance is when you know something is wrong,
but you do it anyways. Right for this, I'm not
going to hold you actually on his side, because you
want me to travel for all the wives of your siblings,

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like like the plans would change to go to be
around them, just to see all the the girlfriends and wives.
I guess that's who's traveling all going to be in
the same place.

Speaker 4 (01:03:14):
Right, Well, it's her family. She's also she's just being
like that, they're all spread out. I think I think
she's trying to use the like they're all spread out
and this never happens.

Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
So this is the one times. This is the one time.

Speaker 4 (01:03:26):
But when they have plans, no, no, see no no
no no, I'm not great.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I'm not saying I think that's I don't think he's ignorant. Then, Like,
I'm not mad.

Speaker 2 (01:03:35):
If you really want to go and you want to
go that bad, this is my this is my holiday.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Like here's how here's how I I'm comparing it right
co parenting, Like when people make plans to be with
their kids on certain days and things like that. Bro,
there's excitement around it, there's emotions around it, there's plans
around it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:56):
And now because they just letting us know this, now
we got to change our holidays.

Speaker 1 (01:04:00):
This is my year. This is what we've agreed to
in this household, but all the other households.

Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
That's a good point.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
I'm not even mad at him, honestly. And if you
really want to go that bad, maybe you want to
go more than you want to see my family. But
I've already made the commitment to my family. I'm excited
to see them. It would be dead ass wrong for
me to pull out last minute, because that's impacting my
side of the family to change plans. So no, actually,
I'm glad you you continue going on because you're not

(01:04:31):
ignorant for that at all.

Speaker 3 (01:04:32):
But those are things that comes up in those relationships, right,
the compromise part. You know, you get to the you
get those scenarios where you decide, Okay, I could lean
over here, I could compromise of staying on my business
and that's it, you know what I mean. But I
think you know, yeah, that in that scenario is probably
difficult to change plans, but you should consider pander pander
and then.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
Be like all right, oh no, no, no, no, no,
don't pander still but still, yeah, you go pander.

Speaker 5 (01:05:00):
Then, But she probably don't want him to. She probably
don't want to go by herself.

Speaker 4 (01:05:02):
If she Don'tyod's gonna ask what the kids, She's gonna
be moping around.

Speaker 1 (01:05:07):
You hit the table one more goddamn time. Or he
had a point, he had a point to make.

Speaker 2 (01:05:12):
He did while we sitting here with no kids worry
about that.

Speaker 6 (01:05:17):
So I got another one?

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
No kids ready? So am I ignorant?

Speaker 6 (01:05:21):
If I take a vacation week during the holidays, even
though I'm just a single guy. So here's the scenario.

Speaker 4 (01:05:27):
So at my work, we're coming up on picking vacation times.
There's about sixty people on the shift and only four
of them can be off due to a vacation day
on any particular day. And because of that, there's a
variety of tasks that it has to leave the room
and calls off and people have to be there. So
to determine who gets off, they use a lottery system. Okay,
you get one sip of paper for each year you've

(01:05:49):
walked there. Okay, so seniority iractly and it goes into
a giant rotating bucket and then they pick and draw.
So it's a new thing that they didn't normally do.
But you know, it used to be just straight to
that next there.

Speaker 5 (01:06:00):
You should just be.

Speaker 4 (01:06:00):
If you have seniority, you got it. Now they do
this system, but seniority gets a lot more. So, he says,
I neverally don't care for the holidays that much. Is
my family small, we don't celebrate that much. But my
close childhood friend had told told me about a trip
that they have in the works. It'd be a big
reunion for a whole group, and I decided I want
to go, so that would be over the holidays, so

(01:06:21):
I'd be taking off right after Christmas through New Year's
at the same time that you say so. The problem
is senior employees are extremely pissed because he won and
he's booking it, and they feel as if their seniority
is not being respected. And this comes after all kinds
of fluctionate at the company with raises and not raises,
so they started taking it out on him. He says,

(01:06:42):
by guilt tripping him that people with families need that
week of Christmas off. So the question is is he
the ignorant one if he takes a vacation on the
holiday the coworkers co workers on the single guy.

Speaker 1 (01:06:54):
But this is coming from an individualist bitch. I don't
give up, but what you got planned with your motherfucker family,
I'm concerned about me and what plans I got. I
think they're all fucked up for guilt tripping here, because
if y'all leaned into this lottery system, you had to
know that the odds were that you would get it

(01:07:17):
or you wouldn't. Like there's only two options here, not
everyone's going to get it, and so you should have.
And when I say you, I'm talking about now the
coworkers should have mentally prepared for Okay, if I don't
get it, I'm going to celebrate the week before, or
I'll find another time to celebrate for you. The guilt
trip a nigga because he's single and chose to live
the smart way of life, Like does it make sense

(01:07:38):
for for why they're mad? Like why you mad?

Speaker 6 (01:07:43):
You can't get in the system or don't that's it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:47):
But when it when it doesn't work in your favor,
you can't now blame somebody for you not getting what
you want when you literally went into the system knowing
what the chances were.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
What you do at home is what you do at home,
whether you have kids, to smoke crack, it's the thing
you want to do on your leisure. Wait what I'm
just saying, it's the thing you want to do on
your leisure.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
So well, no, y'all saw that video of the white
girl who said she was smoking crack while she was
a dental assistant. She's ill on TikTok, so that's crazy.
She said she was going into the goddamn dentist office, smoking,
cracking and working in people's mouth while she was high, insane.
Bro White people get away with anything.

Speaker 6 (01:08:26):
That was a crazy part, she said. She never got caught.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
No, no, no, But even though you admitted it. Now, bitch,
if I knew I went to that doctor's office that
you worked at, I'm following the laws. Was a good dentist,
it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter, but she was.

Speaker 6 (01:08:42):
She was a full blown cracker. I don't think she
does that anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
I don't care if you.

Speaker 5 (01:08:46):
Did do that part in the car in parking line somewhere,
she would, she she would.

Speaker 1 (01:08:50):
You know, And she said in the bathroom, in the bathroom.

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
But apparently peoples in the comments like crack gotta smell.

Speaker 1 (01:08:56):
Now, I ain't even I was about I never smell craft.
But maybe they just she was white. Maybe they just
thought she wasn't watching her legs because you know, they
don't wash all parts of their body. Maybe it's just
thought plastic, you know what I mean. And little burt
plastic smell like when you get braids in your hair
and burn the INDs. That's Burke plastic too. It don't
smell like that.

Speaker 2 (01:09:15):
I can't stand the smell of burn burnt yacky hair.

Speaker 1 (01:09:18):
Oh right in here, all.

Speaker 5 (01:09:20):
Right, I get it, I get it.

Speaker 1 (01:09:22):
I just didn't know that.

Speaker 5 (01:09:23):
I didn't know they burned.

Speaker 1 (01:09:23):
They burned the Indea, that's crazy, like instead of putting
rubber bands out, they burn the ends. The more you know, culture,
you know culture, ethnic time, you get it, you know
all in all, y'all, I do hope for you guys
to have a very very very happy holidays, married Christmas merry, Kwanza.

(01:09:45):
What's the other one with the.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
It's you you damn sorry, honka, I said, with a
little dradle boxing dre something like that and boxing at.

Speaker 1 (01:10:02):
I hope you all enjoy it. Of course, next week
at the top of the year, like most podcasters, y'all
will get our twenty twenty five favorite episode recap. We
had a lot of really good guests, a lot of
really good moments, So I'm really excited for y'all to
hear that. Leaning into twenty twenty six where maybe we're
gonna have a new studio facts new.

Speaker 6 (01:10:22):
Studio blow up to glow up a and we did
a whole year.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
We did a whole year. Well, well, our very first
episode actually aired February eleventh. I looked at our calendar.

Speaker 4 (01:10:33):
Year, but we did start recording. Some podcasts don't make
it out of February.

Speaker 3 (01:10:38):
Some podcasts don't make it out of thirty days. Listen
day ten, episode.

Speaker 1 (01:10:41):
Ten, episode. Seasons don't make it past two seasons. Bitch,
we here. I'm quiet, Yeah, you should be. You should
because I'm over here just talking about shit.

Speaker 6 (01:10:50):
Underhanded, No, no, backhanded, front handed, top handed.

Speaker 5 (01:10:55):
You know she used to be a picture in college.

Speaker 1 (01:10:57):
No, that was actually one sport I never played.

Speaker 5 (01:10:59):
You never.

Speaker 1 (01:11:00):
I was goalie. I did soccer, I did track and field,
I did volleyball and basketball interesting and then back hockey.

Speaker 2 (01:11:10):
No, first off, I'm from Florida, I don't. I went
to public schools.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
The funding didn't allow for the we didn't have swimming pools.
There was a lot of sports that my public school
could not afford. So no, we didn't do any of that. Anyways, y'all,
I want to wish y'all a happy new year, and
we are excited to pull more of y'all selective ignorance
out in twenty twenty six. Super producers. Have fun with

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