December 24, 2024 • 21 mins
In this week's episode of Señora Sex Ed, filmmaker and director, Stephanie Osuna sits down with her mother Patricia Osuna. Together, they reflect on Patricia's conservative upbringing in Veracruz, Mexico and how she met Stephanie's father. Stephanie also reflects on why she's private about sex and where it may stem from.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Moher Magnetta is wise beyond her years.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's probably because she's always listening in on us, Senora's
and our.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cheese man, Hi Rason.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Hi Senora.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to Senora. Sex Ed Senora Sex Said is not
your Mommy sex Talk. This show is la platica like
you've never heard it before. With each episode, we're breaking
the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in LATINX communities.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Latinas have been hyper sexualized in popular culture, but notoriously
denied sex education. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between
Latinas from gen X to Gen Z, covering everything from
puberty and body image to representation in film, television, and music.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Just a reminder that in this show, a Senora is
a woman with a lot of life experiences and stories
to share. Maybe she's in her thirties, maybe she's in
her forties or fifties or older. Maybe she's trans, maybe
she sits.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We are your hosts and producers, Viosa and Mala.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You might recognize us from our flagship podcast, Loka Tora Radio.
Since twenty sixteen, we've covered all kinds of topics, ranging
from politics to mental health, current events, and of course sex.
We still have so much to learn, though, and we
hope you listen to each episode with the Senoras and
Senoritas in Your Life, Chapter nineteen, La Lacas. Stephanie Osuna
(01:54):
is a thirty one year old director and filmmaker from Inglewood, California. Today,
she's in conversation with her mother, Patricia Osuna. Patricia is
fifty years old and from Vera Cruz, Mexico.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Migrico Mammi miaguela so rang cerrados. The sex is.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Patricia didn't tell her mom she was menstruating until a
year after the fact.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Causie the los.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
I guess yes.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
In los Puelo's locally in Ustela, no the nemos gothics
so lass trapos.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
In Patricia's case, she was taught to use a cloth
wrap while on her period. Patricia doesn't remember who told
her to cut cloth and use it as period care,
but she does remember observing the women around her and
learning from them.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You delgadas podo juntas.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Patricia was raised by her grandmother. Her relationship with her
mother was more like that of sisters.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Miss the mamma pero.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
So she didn't really grow up with her her mom.
She grew up with my grandma, so she treats her ma,
treated her mom like a sister, even though she knew
that was her momma.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Po No kariak.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Mama, so dormana pero mamma.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
When Patricia's mother remarried, Patricia was sent to live with
her grandmother due to safety concerns about Patricia living in
the same house as her new stepfather.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Mamma or know some bueness personas in no as he
has tras comun nilaia.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah pegar.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Miauela buen.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Rest so no do.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Damas or na pegaria bos pass he has tras No
no mascal maltrat No.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
That was com.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Patricia's grandmother was once Catholic, but later joined an Evangelical church,
which made her more strict Yer Ramas Colica.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
See Ranta Solica.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Some of the rules Patricia grew up with were no boyfriends,
no makeup, and no tight clothing.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Was no noveo, no podass NotI was not perro cortaso.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Largas.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
At seventeen years old, Patricia was sent to Los Angeles
because she had a boy friend, and remember, boyfriends were
not allowed. Patricia's grandmother thought it would be best if
she left Alcuncino Vera Cruz. Patricia joined her family already settled.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
In l A Miaveela Memando Angeles kake yeah noo, yeah no,
kia ke majunterra alien de puelo.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes, dias so sprimas.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Patricia thought. She worked for a year save and then
returned to Vera Cruz. But then she met Maccario, Stephanie's father, Josamente.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, ya know ya.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
When Patricia's grandmother found out, she was surprisingly okay with it,
because what could she really do from so far away?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yep us, We.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Hope you're enjoying this conversation. Stay tuned, there's more to come.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Thanks for sticking around. We are back.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Once Patricia and Marcadio got together, she moved in with
him and his family, which made intimacy difficult to say
the least.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Biam was conso familiar, so nomida.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And LaSala, miss and LaSala.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
But I was still conceived on that floor, so I
don't know how.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
They did it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
When Patricia became pregnant with Stephanie, the couple rented a
room which gave them a little more privacy.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And sescuandoo Sally and Barrassada Stephanie. Yet most mass p.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
It was just time. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
They hit on, come on Sallysa and Barrassada yak.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
No so far.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Even though they had no privacy while living with her
in laws, the couple still found ways to be intimate.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Res juntos pero juntos and toss yes comes Lisa and barrasadasar.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Patricia believed that family planning should be equitable, meaning preventing
pregnancy was not just her responsibility. They worked out a
system alternating between birth control pills and condoms.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Pourquejos brunto okayjos brunto.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And toss okay to No quires josquiro and toss.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay jo pastilla conto yes paraqua being the old tim.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Patricia used to buy a year's supply of birth control
from Mexico and would keep them at her house. Their
system worked until they were ready to have their first child.
They continued the system until they decided to have their
second child.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Mexico.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Because on the train maintain pastias yes so simple pero.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
System has that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Keys como pos planific cars.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Then as a child, Stephanie was very attached to her parents,
making it difficult for them to enjoy their alone time
because at.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
First I was in the room with them. But then
even if I wasn't in the room with them, like
and I had my own room, I wouldn't want to
sleep with them, or I would like come half like midnight,
I would like go to the room.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
With Oh, yeah, you know, I think about it now,
I'm like, yeah, that must have been annoying, like if
you're trying to get it on, ye.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
But like a daughter like that, right, Like thinking backde.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Stephanie and Patricia reflect back on the sex talk that
Patricia did not give Stephanie while growing up. Patricia felt
that she didn't know how to properly talk to Stephanie
about sex because no one ever taught Patricia when she
was growing.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Up experience get it to Meto the no for.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So No.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Stephanie recalls learning about sex from a cartoon. She doesn't
remember the exact cartoon or its name, but she does
clearly remember that that was her first official sex talk
on the internet.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I learned and I remember I had like a little
computer room, and like I remember clearly and I don't know,
like it was just like a cartoon of like a
penis and a vagina telling you this is what this is.
I was like, I don't know where I got that from,
but I clearly remember that. And I was like, oh, interesting,
Like that's a memory I have that I remember. But
(14:27):
my mom never sat me down and was like, this
is what sex is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Although Patricia didn't explicitly teach Stephanie about the birds and
the bees, she did support her on her journey towards
owning her sexuality.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
She did let me have a boyfriend. She did want
me to have open communication with her. She did want
me to tell her of like something came up, or
I wanted to talk about usaw birth control to Yokariya.
We were like, it's fine, Like she was very open
in those ways. We just didn't talk about the act
of sex.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
We hope you're enjoying this conversation. Stay tuned, there's more
to come.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Thanks for sticking around. We are back. Stephanie may not
have gotten a direct sex talk from her mom, but
she did overhear one conversation between Patricia and her friends
that left a big impression on her.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
You might look at Yosawa maybe like in high school.
It's because I would always be in the middle of
their conversations. I would, and it's clearing my head getting
hit on, said I said orgasm, and then it's I
(15:53):
clearly remember that, And I was like, that's luck with me.
I was like, learn, but where noted I should make
sure that that happens because I didn't know that. I
think before. I was like, I think I knew what
like an orgasm was, and you get it from sex.
(16:13):
But I'm like, but what if you don't get it, Like, oh,
maybe you should get it, Like that should be a
goal that you have. No, I'm pussy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm like Patricia. Stephanie has always been rather private about
the way she talks about sex, even with her own
circle of friends.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Because you know, sex for us is like a secret
of heat kind of thing, right, Like, so it's something
forbidden you shouldn't talk about kind of approach to it.
So I just remember, for me, I'm a girl who's
like and like my friends even now at thirty, they're like,
you're more conservative, like you're more closed off, and like
I am like that, like and I've always been like that,
So it's always been kind of like, uh, not taboo,
(16:55):
but kind of like, oh, like her, maybe we shouldn't
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I'm more private about my approach to sex and everything.
And I think I've been like that since the beginning,
where I'm like, maybe we shouldn't be talking about that, like,
you know, I don't know if I want to share
those things about myself, you know, and even till now,
like my friends just barely started talking to each other
about sex like that, like we know what happens. I'm like,
(17:20):
it's a privacy thing. I'm like, I don't wanna, like,
maybe we should share information, but also like I don't
want to talk about certain things.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Stephanie is unsure where this privacy comes from, how she
internalized how girls are supposed to act, like as.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Growing up as a girl, like you are being the
decent sask Oh. So it's like I think those little
things are like ingrained in me where I'm like, wait,
what can I even do, like as a woman, what
can I even do? Here?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
At this stage in their relationship, Stephanie doesn't have to
eavesdrop on the conversations between Patricia and her friends. They
openly share in front of her.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Yeah this is.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yea and her friends have breakfast together every Monday. She
admires this about her mom and her friends. She recognizes
that not a lot of women in their fifties have
a close circle. Sometimes even Stephanie tags along.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Petta lunas.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
My mom and I'm like, okay, yeah, go yeah, but
is okayta luno mask and no, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, Stephanie might not be completely open to talking
about sex with her friends, or even listening to her
mom's friends joke about sex, but she is open to
taking her mom to a strip club.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh yeah, she really must club.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Uh huh, so get gets on strip club? Bammos? Why not?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
What I learned from Stephanie and Patricia's story is that
sometimes you don't really get open and comfortable about sex
and sexuality until you're older and you've had some experiences,
you've gained some wisdom, you've grown in your self confidence,
and it definitely helps to have a group of amigas
who feel the same way, who you can compare notes with,
(19:55):
talk shit with, and discuss orgasms with hesitation and without
feeling self conscious, and I love that. If you're feeling
a little closed off and insecure now, that could very
easily change with the passage of time.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Next time, on Senora Sex Said, we hear from author
Lilium Rivera.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I'm been around for a while and your father and
I had sexual relations. And then she goes, oh my god,
you're still having sex. I was so offended. I was like, girl,
do you know how old?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
She has no idea fifty four.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
She's just like, that's a lot, no semos Chow.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Senora Sex Said is a co production between Locata Productions
and Michael Dura Podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
This show is executive produced by Mala Munos and biosa Fem.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Also executive produced by Jisell Bancis, produced by Stephanie Franco,
Creative direction by Mala Munios.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Story editing by biosa Fem.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Music direction by Grisol Lomeli
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And music produced by Brian Gazo.
Moher Magnetta is wise beyond her years.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
It's probably because she's always listening in on us, Senora's
and our.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Cheese man, Hi Rason.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Senora, Hi Senora.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Welcome to Senora. Sex Ed Senora Sex Said is not
your Mommy sex Talk. This show is la platica like
you've never heard it before. With each episode, we're breaking
the stigma and silence around sex and sexuality in LATINX communities.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Latinas have been hyper sexualized in popular culture, but notoriously
denied sex education. This podcast is an intergenerational conversation between
Latinas from gen X to Gen Z, covering everything from
puberty and body image to representation in film, television, and music.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Just a reminder that in this show, a Senora is
a woman with a lot of life experiences and stories
to share. Maybe she's in her thirties, maybe she's in
her forties or fifties or older. Maybe she's trans, maybe
she sits.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We are your hosts and producers, Viosa and Mala.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
You might recognize us from our flagship podcast, Loka Tora Radio.
Since twenty sixteen, we've covered all kinds of topics, ranging
from politics to mental health, current events, and of course sex.
We still have so much to learn, though, and we
hope you listen to each episode with the Senoras and
Senoritas in Your Life, Chapter nineteen, La Lacas. Stephanie Osuna
(01:54):
is a thirty one year old director and filmmaker from Inglewood, California. Today,
she's in conversation with her mother, Patricia Osuna. Patricia is
fifty years old and from Vera Cruz, Mexico.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
Migrico Mammi miaguela so rang cerrados. The sex is.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Patricia didn't tell her mom she was menstruating until a
year after the fact.
Speaker 5 (02:27):
Causie the los.
Speaker 6 (02:37):
I guess yes.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
In los Puelo's locally in Ustela, no the nemos gothics
so lass trapos.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
In Patricia's case, she was taught to use a cloth
wrap while on her period. Patricia doesn't remember who told
her to cut cloth and use it as period care,
but she does remember observing the women around her and
learning from them.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
You delgadas podo juntas.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Patricia was raised by her grandmother. Her relationship with her
mother was more like that of sisters.
Speaker 4 (03:55):
Miss the mamma pero.
Speaker 6 (04:04):
So she didn't really grow up with her her mom.
She grew up with my grandma, so she treats her ma,
treated her mom like a sister, even though she knew
that was her momma.
Speaker 7 (04:16):
Po No kariak.
Speaker 5 (04:22):
Mama, so dormana pero mamma.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
When Patricia's mother remarried, Patricia was sent to live with
her grandmother due to safety concerns about Patricia living in
the same house as her new stepfather.
Speaker 5 (04:50):
Mamma or know some bueness personas in no as he
has tras comun nilaia.
Speaker 4 (05:13):
Yeah pegar.
Speaker 7 (05:19):
Miauela buen.
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Rest so no do.
Speaker 5 (05:30):
Damas or na pegaria bos pass he has tras No
no mascal maltrat No.
Speaker 7 (05:48):
That was com.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Patricia's grandmother was once Catholic, but later joined an Evangelical church,
which made her more strict Yer Ramas Colica.
Speaker 5 (06:05):
See Ranta Solica.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Some of the rules Patricia grew up with were no boyfriends,
no makeup, and no tight clothing.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Was no noveo, no podass NotI was not perro cortaso.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
Largas.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
At seventeen years old, Patricia was sent to Los Angeles
because she had a boy friend, and remember, boyfriends were
not allowed. Patricia's grandmother thought it would be best if
she left Alcuncino Vera Cruz. Patricia joined her family already settled.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
In l A Miaveela Memando Angeles kake yeah noo, yeah no,
kia ke majunterra alien de puelo.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
Yes, dias so sprimas.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Patricia thought. She worked for a year save and then
returned to Vera Cruz. But then she met Maccario, Stephanie's father, Josamente.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Yeah, yeah, no, ya know ya.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
When Patricia's grandmother found out, she was surprisingly okay with it,
because what could she really do from so far away?
Speaker 7 (08:17):
Yep us, We.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Hope you're enjoying this conversation. Stay tuned, there's more to come.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
Thanks for sticking around. We are back.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Once Patricia and Marcadio got together, she moved in with
him and his family, which made intimacy difficult to say
the least.
Speaker 5 (08:59):
Biam was conso familiar, so nomida.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
And LaSala, miss and LaSala.
Speaker 6 (09:17):
But I was still conceived on that floor, so I
don't know how.
Speaker 7 (09:20):
They did it.
Speaker 1 (09:22):
When Patricia became pregnant with Stephanie, the couple rented a
room which gave them a little more privacy.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And sescuandoo Sally and Barrassada Stephanie. Yet most mass p.
Speaker 7 (09:37):
It was just time. I don't know.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
They hit on, come on Sallysa and Barrassada yak.
Speaker 6 (09:49):
No so far.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Even though they had no privacy while living with her
in laws, the couple still found ways to be intimate.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Res juntos pero juntos and toss yes comes Lisa and barrasadasar.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Patricia believed that family planning should be equitable, meaning preventing
pregnancy was not just her responsibility. They worked out a
system alternating between birth control pills and condoms.
Speaker 5 (10:29):
Pourquejos brunto okayjos brunto.
Speaker 4 (10:39):
And toss okay to No quires josquiro and toss.
Speaker 5 (10:52):
Okay jo pastilla conto yes paraqua being the old tim.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Patricia used to buy a year's supply of birth control
from Mexico and would keep them at her house. Their
system worked until they were ready to have their first child.
They continued the system until they decided to have their
second child.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Mexico.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Because on the train maintain pastias yes so simple pero.
Speaker 7 (11:35):
System has that.
Speaker 5 (11:36):
Keys como pos planific cars.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
It was.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
Then as a child, Stephanie was very attached to her parents,
making it difficult for them to enjoy their alone time
because at.
Speaker 6 (12:09):
First I was in the room with them. But then
even if I wasn't in the room with them, like
and I had my own room, I wouldn't want to
sleep with them, or I would like come half like midnight,
I would like go to the room.
Speaker 8 (12:19):
With Oh, yeah, you know, I think about it now,
I'm like, yeah, that must have been annoying, like if
you're trying to get it on, ye.
Speaker 9 (12:55):
But like a daughter like that, right, Like thinking backde.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Stephanie and Patricia reflect back on the sex talk that
Patricia did not give Stephanie while growing up. Patricia felt
that she didn't know how to properly talk to Stephanie
about sex because no one ever taught Patricia when she
was growing.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
Up experience get it to Meto the no for.
Speaker 4 (13:48):
So No.
Speaker 1 (13:53):
Stephanie recalls learning about sex from a cartoon. She doesn't
remember the exact cartoon or its name, but she does
clearly remember that that was her first official sex talk
on the internet.
Speaker 6 (14:06):
I learned and I remember I had like a little
computer room, and like I remember clearly and I don't know,
like it was just like a cartoon of like a
penis and a vagina telling you this is what this is.
I was like, I don't know where I got that from,
but I clearly remember that. And I was like, oh, interesting,
Like that's a memory I have that I remember. But
(14:27):
my mom never sat me down and was like, this
is what sex is.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Although Patricia didn't explicitly teach Stephanie about the birds and
the bees, she did support her on her journey towards
owning her sexuality.
Speaker 6 (14:42):
She did let me have a boyfriend. She did want
me to have open communication with her. She did want
me to tell her of like something came up, or
I wanted to talk about usaw birth control to Yokariya.
We were like, it's fine, Like she was very open
in those ways. We just didn't talk about the act
of sex.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
We hope you're enjoying this conversation. Stay tuned, there's more
to come.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
Thanks for sticking around. We are back. Stephanie may not
have gotten a direct sex talk from her mom, but
she did overhear one conversation between Patricia and her friends
that left a big impression on her.
Speaker 6 (15:26):
You might look at Yosawa maybe like in high school.
It's because I would always be in the middle of
their conversations. I would, and it's clearing my head getting
hit on, said I said orgasm, and then it's I
(15:53):
clearly remember that, And I was like, that's luck with me.
I was like, learn, but where noted I should make
sure that that happens because I didn't know that. I
think before. I was like, I think I knew what
like an orgasm was, and you get it from sex.
(16:13):
But I'm like, but what if you don't get it, Like, oh,
maybe you should get it, Like that should be a
goal that you have. No, I'm pussy.
Speaker 2 (16:24):
I'm like Patricia. Stephanie has always been rather private about
the way she talks about sex, even with her own
circle of friends.
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Because you know, sex for us is like a secret
of heat kind of thing, right, Like, so it's something
forbidden you shouldn't talk about kind of approach to it.
So I just remember, for me, I'm a girl who's
like and like my friends even now at thirty, they're like,
you're more conservative, like you're more closed off, and like
I am like that, like and I've always been like that,
So it's always been kind of like, uh, not taboo,
(16:55):
but kind of like, oh, like her, maybe we shouldn't
talk about that.
Speaker 7 (16:59):
You know.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
I'm more private about my approach to sex and everything.
And I think I've been like that since the beginning,
where I'm like, maybe we shouldn't be talking about that, like,
you know, I don't know if I want to share
those things about myself, you know, and even till now,
like my friends just barely started talking to each other
about sex like that, like we know what happens. I'm like,
(17:20):
it's a privacy thing. I'm like, I don't wanna, like,
maybe we should share information, but also like I don't
want to talk about certain things.
Speaker 7 (17:28):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Stephanie is unsure where this privacy comes from, how she
internalized how girls are supposed to act, like as.
Speaker 6 (17:37):
Growing up as a girl, like you are being the
decent sask Oh. So it's like I think those little
things are like ingrained in me where I'm like, wait,
what can I even do, like as a woman, what
can I even do? Here?
Speaker 2 (17:53):
At this stage in their relationship, Stephanie doesn't have to
eavesdrop on the conversations between Patricia and her friends. They
openly share in front of her.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
Yeah this is.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Yea and her friends have breakfast together every Monday. She
admires this about her mom and her friends. She recognizes
that not a lot of women in their fifties have
a close circle. Sometimes even Stephanie tags along.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Petta lunas.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
My mom and I'm like, okay, yeah, go yeah, but
is okayta luno mask and no, you know.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
You know, Stephanie might not be completely open to talking
about sex with her friends, or even listening to her
mom's friends joke about sex, but she is open to
taking her mom to a strip club.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Oh yeah, she really must club.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Uh huh, so get gets on strip club? Bammos? Why not?
Speaker 1 (19:35):
What I learned from Stephanie and Patricia's story is that
sometimes you don't really get open and comfortable about sex
and sexuality until you're older and you've had some experiences,
you've gained some wisdom, you've grown in your self confidence,
and it definitely helps to have a group of amigas
who feel the same way, who you can compare notes with,
(19:55):
talk shit with, and discuss orgasms with hesitation and without
feeling self conscious, and I love that. If you're feeling
a little closed off and insecure now, that could very
easily change with the passage of time.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
Next time, on Senora Sex Said, we hear from author
Lilium Rivera.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
I'm been around for a while and your father and
I had sexual relations. And then she goes, oh my god,
you're still having sex. I was so offended. I was like, girl,
do you know how old?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
Hell?
Speaker 1 (20:30):
She has no idea fifty four.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
She's just like, that's a lot, no semos Chow.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
Senora Sex Said is a co production between Locata Productions
and Michael Dura Podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
This show is executive produced by Mala Munos and biosa Fem.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Also executive produced by Jisell Bancis, produced by Stephanie Franco,
Creative direction by Mala Munios.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Story editing by biosa Fem.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Music direction by Grisol Lomeli
Speaker 1 (21:02):
And music produced by Brian Gazo.
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