July 12, 2025 • 27 mins
A big surprise in Episode 34… the Love Islanders met each other’s families IN PERSON! We’ve all been there… what do our friends and families think of our partner and how does that influence our relationships?? Amy and T.J. talk about when the right time is to introduce family and how important their approval is! Also, can their approval ever be a bad thing? And a final nugget from last night’s episode for everyone to ponder in their own bedrooms… does how you sleep next to your partner speak to the state of your relationship?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, they're folks. It is Saturday, July twelfth, and we
are down to the final four on Love Island USA.
After Ace and Shelley got booted out of the villa.
But before they left, Ace and Shelley and the rest
of the couples once again taught us some very very
valuable relationship lessons. And with that, welcome to this Love
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Island edition of Amy and TJ, where we go beyond
the bods, the hot bods, the kissing games, and the
hideaway Suite to identify the real relationship lessons sprinkled throughout
the show. There were several sprinkled throughout the show, but
Robes we have to start with. I give them credit
for Love Island USA. It was the best moment I
have ever seen on any episode of any season of
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this show, having the families.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Come That's right because before we had seen in previous
seasons they would have the families come in on FaceTime
or video chat, but we've never seen them the condestance.
That's a long way to go. They're in Fiji, so
they would have zero expectation that their family would be
able to travel thousands and thousands of miles. But that
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was a really cool, special and humanizing moment where I
think people have treated a lot of these contestants as
realities shows stars or Instagram influencer wannabes, and this was
such a human moment that everyone could relate to.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
What was the word you used to use? They said,
they treat them contestants reality stars and use one more influencers.
So it's easy to talk shit about those people. It's
easy to insult them, it's easy to send hate when
you see them as contestants or celebrities or influencers. But
when you see them as brothers and sons and human beings,
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it's harder to talk about them the way you do.
This was the most humanizing moment, and it's too bad.
We need that before we start acting right. But it's
not lady people. If we can stop labeling people as
a thing. He's a contestant, he's an influencer. No, he's
a son, he's a brother, he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, she's a sister. She's a mother. You know, Huma,
who's gotten Hudah, excuse me, Hudah, who's gotten so much hate.
She's a mom. And all of that was just brought
home in this episode. And real tears. Chris breaking down
on his mama's shoulder. That was real, and that just
shows the emotion and a lot of the intention that
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I think people were putting to another space. Actually, some
of these folks really were here and found love and
found friends and found a place a place to belong.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So once again, no surprise. Again, we watched these shows
often differently with this is not a guilty pleasure for
the most part, might have started that way, but all
of a sudden now it's become relationship counseling and therapy
and recognition. So yes, Ason Shelley left last night, But
a big part of the show was, of course the
families being there, and family, as we know, is a
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big part of any relationship any of us have ever
been in. So several lessons and several questions we should
all be asking ourselves that they showed us last night.
One of them, when do you introduce somebody to your family?
Another question, how important is that family approval in your relationship?
Also can that family and friend approval ultimately be a
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bad thing? Also ask yourself this, how do you sleep
next to your partner every single night? And does it
matter at all? These are just a few of the
lessons rope. Let's start at the top. Look, they're in
a different scenario because they only there for six weeks,
different timeline and all that. But in the normal, in
the real world, you're gonna tell me it's different for everybody.
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But let's go generally. I mean, is there a time
that's too soon to be introducing to absolutely? Really?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh yes? Oh wow, I've introduced people to my mom
way too soon, And I believe you've heard about it
soon though, Like I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, no, are we talking days, weeks or just it might
not be ready, you know, for your own sake, I'm
not in a good enough position with this person to introduce.
Is that what the measures you?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, it could be. But also I've had the experience
of I might have been ready, but my parents weren't,
and so that actually was something that I should have
considered that I didn't do in the past that actually
ended up being a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, I have to stop there. How do you know
when your parents aren't ready? Because folks are listening to this, Okay,
I'm ready, my partner's ready, but my parents aren't ready.
How do you know that?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You have to ask them and I think that I
have moved past that. In my enthusiasm, I didn't consider
where they were and how they thought about me and
where I was, And a lot of times in retrospect,
I can say this, your parents know best. They know
that it's too soon after a breakup, it's too soon
after a divorce, it's too soon after everything, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're never going to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Of course I didn't, okay, but it still was undermining
the whole situation because I pushed, I pushed, I pushed.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Your parents told us it was too soon. Now it
wasn't too soon to meet them. We obviously have been
hanging out with your parents many many years before you
and I ever started dating. But as far as you
dating someone else, they told us it was too soon.
That's different from this and introduction. But still parents do
chime in on what they think is the right time
they do.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, you've known my parents for a decade, so that
was not even an issue at all. But yes, I
think everyone likes to see their children at least get
to know themselves and understand what they've just been through
before they enter into another relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But the introduction part for the parents, I didn't think
about it that way. The parents aren't ready to meet
whoever you might be dating for whatever reason. Maybe they
like the last person you were dating a lot, and
we're not ready for the new guy. But it was
always for me, just a matter of when this person
I'm dating became relevant enough to meet. Like, you don't
get the pleasure. You don't get that upside. Don't get
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that you don't get that privilege of meeting my parents.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's incredibly intimate to meet someone's parents because you learned
so much about the person you're dating. You learn about
who was raising them, what their values are, what their
family family dynamic is, and all of that is very
obviously it's instrumental. It's you have to know that. I
think at least it makes a huge difference and me
understanding You didn't you say this. You understood me more
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when you got to know my parents more, or when
you got to know you're like, oh, I see why
she does this, I see why she reacts like that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's helpful. It's not not helpful. The understanding, Yes, it's helpful,
but in saying okay, I can give her a break
on that, you see where it comes from. It does
with your daughters as well. The time I spend with
Anna Lease and Navel now it all and with your mom,
I see a circle circle.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, hear that, And it's funny too, Like getting to
know your dad and seeing his eight grills and how
he prepares a meal for thirty when there's four of us,
and him wanting to get everywhere an hour before he's
supposed to, and seeing your sister saying, Dad, please don't
get there so early. I understand why you TikTok the
way you do, And even seeing your mom's quiet but
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all knowing personality, and then when she does chime in,
everybody better listen. You see the traits of each and
then you're like, that's why he's like this, that's why
he does this, and you can understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So on this point of when to introduce, does it
really it's hard to put a number or time on it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think it does.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Is it really is the most relevant point? When I'm ready,
when the person i'm dating's ready, Oh, when my parents
are ready, Like all those have to be factored in.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I guess I think it has to be factored in.
But I do believe when you want this person to
be a significant part of your life, when you want
to bring them to the family barbecue, when you want
to bring them to church, when you want that's when
you want to introduce them to your family first. But
it's I think it's so individual.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
How important though another thing the other lesson so as
you could pluck out from this last episode, episode thirty four,
that just aired on Friday night, how important is and
should family approval be, no matter what your no matter
all of us want it. Don't we want our family
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to like the person we're dating.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just my experience has shown if you had asked
me this question twenty years ago, I would have said
I'd like for it to be something that they approved of,
but it wouldn't be a make or break for me,
And that is how I have operated. And look, if
I had followed my family's feelings or advice beforehand, I
probably would have made fewer mistakes in my life. But
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I think sometimes you have to go through those on
your own to figure out what you need and what
you want, and mistakes are a part of learning and growing.
So I do think it's very important, but I don't
think that you should make or break a relationship based
on your family's films because they don't know the person
the same way you do.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we bring this up because in last night's episode
of Almost Said Family Guy for some reason, if we're
talking about family, last night's episode of Love Island, we
saw so many couples almost flip a switch when the
families got there and for them to get support from family,
they went back into their relationship renewed and almost with
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a new energy and optimism about making it work.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There's nothing better then, especially because everyone has doubts from
their relationships, don't we all? Don't we all question? Wait?
Is that the right person for me? Should I be
in this relationship? That is a very real and common
and maybe even frequent thought that goes into a lot
of folks's minds. But when your family says I've been
watching and I've been watching every good think about the
window into their world these families have had that most
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people never You and I would never get to see
what's going on in our children's lives like this, or
have access to the relationship like these families have. So
to have had that access and to be able to say,
I like her, I like her with you, I like
the way he looks at you. That is so reassuring.
I can't think of anything more reassuring than that, Because
the person who loves you the most, who thinks you
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should be treated the best, is saying, Hey, this guy
that I've been watching, he's the right guy. He's a
good guy for you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's how huge important is that you know? I should
ask it this way. I think you already answered it.
Have you ever? Have you ever and yes, you have?
You've continued with someone in a relationship that your family
didn't want you to and they have disapproval. Yes, Now,
have you ever gotten out of a relationship with somebody
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that your parents wish you'd continued? Did they love this boyfriend?
They were crazy about him, and like, oh crap, it's
gonna piss my parents off if I have to, if
I when I break up with this dude because they
like him so much.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I've never had that experience.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, your parents, now.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's always been the opposite.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
As it was coming out, you can see my eyes
going up as I was talking my way through.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That is this crazy of me to think, But it
seems like when it comes to parents and gender, like
most people don't think any guy is good enough for
their daughter. But I think a lot of dudes are like,
she's good for you, she grounds you, she takes care
of you. I think a lot of times I would
see more of like the male's parents supporting the woman
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saying she's good for him, and a lot of the
female the girl's parents thinking a guy isn't good enough
for her.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Why because the question is the same, but the thought
is the same whether if you're the parent of a
boy or parent of a girl, you want that boy
and that girl to be taken care of. Yes, So
when the boy is being taken care of by his woman,
it's what it's an emotional care. And from the woman's side,
is he going to be a protector and a provider? Yes,
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you think about that stuff first and when you break
it down in that way. And what we saw on
the show, it was so interesting to see Chris and
Hudah in particular, Chris was nervous as hell.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh he was sweating it. You even pointed out his
body language before he because they didn't know which family
members were coming or friends. So he was in almost
fetal position as much as you can be when you're
six eight. But you said look at him. It's like
he's a kid who's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Totally recoiled. He totally was sitting there in the corner
like he was being punished and scared. It's weird to
see from his six eighth brother doing that. But he
was worried that they have seen how Hudah has behaved.
He knows his mama and his sister. He got girls
coming to her.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He kept saying, my people woo.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So we were all nervous, and I thought it was
gonna go one of two ways when it comes to
black women in my experience and my aunt's, my mama's sister,
They're either gonna totally embrace and love or are they
gonna say hell gnaw and reject. There's very little middle grounds. Yea,
I have found. But black women just nurtured that they
are and they recognize and they related to her.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I actually I was My heart warmed.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I thought was so cool that they could see somebody
who was acting childishly at times and toxically at times
and said, you know what, we know her, we understand her.
She's a single mom, she's been through a lot of shit,
she's had a lot of shitty relationships, and they related
to her and they recognized, which I loved her growth,
her growth. They were proud of their son for being calm,
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cool and collected, and that was so cool. So he
got props from being really that steady, emotional person who
she needed in that moment and allowed her to grow.
And so they appreciated what he did and they were
proud of him. They said, Mom raised you right, and
that was so good to see. But they also liked
and loved how Judah evolved and recognized it took some time,
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as it always does, that she wasn't behaving properly in moments.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Family and friend approval is so critical, and I'm thinking
of myself in that matter I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Have.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't think I've ever had my parents expressed to
me like, uh uh.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is not somebody I was just gonna ask you that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't think I'm thinking back to high school now
at this point, I think that might have been somebody
in junior high. My mom wasn't feeling like that girl's trouble.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But do your parents. My impression of them is that
they trust your judgment and they would never want to
question it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's fair. I think certainly my adult I think that's fair.
My mom is the one she'll raise a red flag
and a heartbeat. She's done that throughout my life. But
I don't have many certainly in my adult life and
serious relationships have they raised red flags about it? So
maybe I've I don't know in that regard, I've brought
decent enough people home.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I do feel like, tell me what your impression is
that both of our parents are rooting for us like
heaven in a relationship, yes, oh, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, yes. But I have never been in a relationship
where I felt unsupported by my parents either, I say,
I'm always supporting. I've never been in a relationship where
I felt they were rooting weren't rooting for it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I have had that experience when my parents were actively
rooting against a relationship. And they've expressed it to you,
not towards you, towards other people.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm nervous, not because I know they ain't shy about it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, no, they're not. And the thing is they are
absolutely rooting for us and for you. They like you,
they love you so yes, I and look they would
tell me if they weren't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But the other lesson or the other question. At least
that they Love Islanders made us think about is can
family and friend approval end up being a bad thing? Yeah.
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We pick it up here with this idea of family
approval after the episode of Love Island last night, episode
thirty four, in which we saw I go down to
the final four. These are the ones that will be
of course in the finalely now that America will vote
on for the finale on Sunday. But we're talking about
family approval. Friend and family approval can be a good thing.
We saw ropes in the last episode, how it kind
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of switched turns some relationships around.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh yeah, Hudah and Chris were all bowed up after
their families and before they were sitting on opposite sides
from They couldn't have been further away from each other,
like ooh, this is not going to be good. And
at the end they were all over each other.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Mama showed up, friends showed up, sister showed up and
say we like you guys, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Sudden boom, approval meant everything, So it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Can mean everything. My opposite side of that is what
happens when you're in a relationship. Maybe you've been married
five years, ten years, your family is close to this
guy or this gal. Can that also be a bad
thing and that you're staying in a relationship that's not
good necessarily for you, but you don't want to disappoint
so many other people who are who have a good
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impression of your spouse.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And the answer to that is yes. And I think
in my experience it was children. It wasn't necessarily brothers
or family members who were rooting for or wanting you
to stay together because they liked the person you were
with as much as they like you. But I think
kids can throw that into the mix as well, where
you know your children love somebody or love their dad,
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or love their mom or whatever, and that absolutely has
an impact on whether you stay. So do some people
stay out of guilt because they know everyone in their
life loves them so much they don't want to disappoint friends, family, parents, children, Yes,
And that is a bad thing. That is never a
good thing for you to stay in a relationship because
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someone else wants you to.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Man. You think when you said to you the kid thing,
I certainly get and that when you put it with
that perspective, then obviously the answer is absolutely you shouldn't
stay in a relationship when it comes to kids. I'm
thinking about let's take kids out of it for a second.
But the idea of someone being that you're married to,
being so close to your mom, being so close to
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your sister, being so close in some way, and to
the point that if you end up out of the relationship,
they might continue with some friendships or relationships with your
family members. We can get into that on a whole
other appas that's tough. But when you think of it
that way, can can that be a bad thing? Yes,
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when you are, but are you starting to listen to
those people a little bit and go, Wow, maybe I'm
missing something. If everybody loves this gal of this guy,
and I'm the only one that has a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I do think that it if it causes you
to do some internal reflection, like am I the problem?
Am I the issue? Do I need to work on
my level of tolerance or my Yes, that can be
a good thing. I think that would be the first step, like, Wow,
why does everybody else love this person and I'm not
feeling it? Maybe I'm the one who needs to do
some work on myself. So if that is your first
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instinct that's a good one, that's never a bad thing.
So yes, I would say that should be the first
thing you do at a certain point. You have to
trust your gut, you have to trust your your perception
of things. And the truth is, your friends and family
can only know that person so well. You obviously know
that person on a much deeper, much more intimate level.
You've seen them at their worst in a way your
friends and family maybe have not. So I think there
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are a lot of people who are very good at
charming the room and working the room and making everyone
fall in love with them, but when it comes to
when you close your door, you might act differently. So
I don't think it's a fair representation of who that
other person is you're with, you know what I.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Will This is again, this is just hitting me now.
Love island an advantage that they do have. The families
do get to see people behave behind closed doors quote unquote,
but they are witnessing things that you normally wouldn't witness.
So these families probably have a better sense of who
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their loved ones are dating than you and I parents
had after six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Absolutely, because think about it. So for people who don't
understand a lot of reality shows, they've got cameras up
in your face, and you act differently when you've got
a camera crew there and lights and micro These folks
wear these microphones all day. They probably forget they're there.
The cameras are fixed so they don't have photographers or people.
So you get comfortable, right, you start acting. Then there
you throw a drink or two in there. I know
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they're limited in how much they can drink, but you're
a little bit you know, lubricated, so to speak, and
you will eventually fall into a place of comfort and
be yourself. And I think we definitely have seen that
where people genuinely forget in the moment that they're actually
being watched by millions of people, including the other people's parents.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, I think now these folks probably do. They could
speak more confidently about the relationships that they're loved ones
are in than our parents, or in our parents' relationship
or anybody most parents would normally have. The last thing
I want to hit on here, the last lesson that
they taught it is this is kind of funny and
kind of acute one, but it is worth talking about
because we always talk about it. This was Chris and Huda.
They had all kinds of problems in the last two
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episodes of they had the back and forth about who
walked off and he won't kiss them in public, blah.
But if they weren't doing great, no, before this episode.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
They were not.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
However, there was a shot in this past episode if
you all caught it. They were sleeping at night, you
know they do. The lights are out and they just
take shots of each bed if you will. Sometimes there's
some making out going on under the covers and different stuff.
Chris and Huda were just asleep, but they were sleeping.
This couple that's been through hell, that's not doing great.
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They were all over each other and not in a
way that they made an intentional effort to cuddle. But
they were just asleep and naturally and not even in
a cute way. I say cute way.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It wasn't a sexual way stage shot.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They were just you have to be comfortable with someone
to sleep that way with someone, And they were just
kind of lay a mess all over each other. And
I thought it was cute. I said, wow, look at them,
and it made me think, what does that tell us
about ourselves? Our relationship and where that relationship is they
based on how you sleep in the bed at night.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, And we talked about how they slept in the
bed the night where they were having the fight. He
turned his back on her. You know, it was a
very obvious f you physically.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yes, conscious, this was not a conscious effort. It was
a natural thing. Were just sloppily kind of old for
each other.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It got me thinking that this is the couple we've
seen have more conflict than any other couple. But it
also made me think, we've talked to this how real
they've been, because that's that's embarrassing to kind of have
all that mess out there, But to be willing to
be like that, and to be open and vulnerable, to
be able to admit you e ft up, to cry,
to have all those things, it does bring you closer together.
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When you realize, hey, we've been through all of this
shit and we're still here and we're still together, you
do get a level of intimacy that is far deeper
than sex can give you or physical touch can give you.
When you've been through hell and you're still there, that
to me is true intimacy. And that's what we saw.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So that's I ask everybody listening, How do you sleep
next to your partner every night? Follow up to that?
Does it matter and give any indication of where your
relationship is? Maybe not. Some people, for practical reasons, sleep
in separate beds in separate rooms because they like the
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lights so like this, they like the bed like this,
they like this much noise, all kinds of things. But generally,
can we read anything about our relationship based on how
you sleep?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think you can to an extent. It's not you know,
it's not black and white. But I will say for me,
if I want to be next to you and near you,
even though it's warmer than I want, or it's maybe
louder than I want, or it's bright, but the most
important thing is I sleep best when I know you're
next to me. I don't I think for me that
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there's an Again, there's an intimacy to sleeping next to somebody.
You're vulnerable. You might snore, you might drool, you might you.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Know all that stuff. Yep, all of it at nightly heavily.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And if you still love me and want to be
in the bed next to me, that's something. But that's like,
that's just absolutely you aren't putting on airs when you're sleeping,
you're not pretending to be something you're not. You are
who you are when you sleep.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And this is a true story, people. This is the
way we slept last night. I am looking at the
sectional where the two of us slept last night. We
fell asleep watching a movie on h ah wow it
was on Peacock yes, drop right, it was Drop Drop
the movie we uh, we fell asleep on it. We
fell asleep on each other. She was in one part
of the second sectional, fully, and I was in another part,
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but both my legs were over in her side of
the sectional. Correct For whatever reason, I woke up in
the middle of the night and we weren't in that
position anymore, and instead she had a pillow from the
bedroom onto the couch and I was laying on a
couch pillow.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But our head we're touching.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We're touching. We had angled ourselves on this sectional in.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
This it it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
This perpendicular way and where our heads were together.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So it's funny you say that because I woke up
at because we always I always wake up at three,
so of course I just automatically woke up at three
fifteen and I was like, you know what, and I
saw our heads were touching, and we both had two
little tiny pillows, and I was like, I think I'm
gonna go get a pillow from the bed. So I
went up at three fifteen, got the pillow from the bed,
but our heads were still touching.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So it's interesting. We don't get to do that all
the time because our schedules during the week are just
an absolute mass. We don't even go to bed at
the same time, it seems anymore. But I just thought
that jumped out at me, and it made me think
about how we sleep, how we slept when we first
started dating, how we slept when we have had a fight,
how we sleep the night after we make up from
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that fight. All kinds of stuff factors in, So pay
attention to that, folks, How you sleep tonight. Does the
say anything about your relationship? Maybe not, but ask yourself
this as well. Where do you want to be so
out you see your partner in that bed, where would
you like to go?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That is so telling. It might and it could change daily,
it could change hourly, But generally speaking, I always want
to You always make fun of me because sometimes I'm like,
all up next to you, and let me just tell you,
I've never been like that before, but I like for
one part of my body to be touching one part
of yours.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
All Right, folks, we've been sending across the table as
we've been recording this, so we're gonna stop now so
I can get to the other side of the table.
She's getting antsy. We haven't touched in twenty seven minutes.
So because this has been great and let's ever mind
obviously all of you all know, but the well, we
got two nights of this. Yeah, so Saturday night tonight
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and then tomorrow's a finale. Huda and Chris, Iris and
Pepe Alandria and Nick and Anaya.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And Ryan, Brian, Brian sorry Brian Brian with a why. Okay, yep,
so kind of like Ryan I wrote down, Ryan Brian
with a bee.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Can we say now? No, We'll wait and we'll tell
you who we like for the We'll do that later.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, well, we'll see that next episode.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We'll do that later. But folks, we always appreciate you
all going along on this ride with us. But for now,
I'm J Holmes alongside my very touchy feeling partner Amy Robot.
We'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Mm hmmm mmm hmmm
Hey, they're folks. It is Saturday, July twelfth, and we
are down to the final four on Love Island USA.
After Ace and Shelley got booted out of the villa.
But before they left, Ace and Shelley and the rest
of the couples once again taught us some very very
valuable relationship lessons. And with that, welcome to this Love
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Island edition of Amy and TJ, where we go beyond
the bods, the hot bods, the kissing games, and the
hideaway Suite to identify the real relationship lessons sprinkled throughout
the show. There were several sprinkled throughout the show, but
Robes we have to start with. I give them credit
for Love Island USA. It was the best moment I
have ever seen on any episode of any season of
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this show, having the families.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Come That's right because before we had seen in previous
seasons they would have the families come in on FaceTime
or video chat, but we've never seen them the condestance.
That's a long way to go. They're in Fiji, so
they would have zero expectation that their family would be
able to travel thousands and thousands of miles. But that
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was a really cool, special and humanizing moment where I
think people have treated a lot of these contestants as
realities shows stars or Instagram influencer wannabes, and this was
such a human moment that everyone could relate to.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
What was the word you used to use? They said,
they treat them contestants reality stars and use one more influencers.
So it's easy to talk shit about those people. It's
easy to insult them, it's easy to send hate when
you see them as contestants or celebrities or influencers. But
when you see them as brothers and sons and human beings,
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it's harder to talk about them the way you do.
This was the most humanizing moment, and it's too bad.
We need that before we start acting right. But it's
not lady people. If we can stop labeling people as
a thing. He's a contestant, he's an influencer. No, he's
a son, he's a brother, he's a good guy.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, she's a sister. She's a mother. You know, Huma,
who's gotten Hudah, excuse me, Hudah, who's gotten so much hate.
She's a mom. And all of that was just brought
home in this episode. And real tears. Chris breaking down
on his mama's shoulder. That was real, and that just
shows the emotion and a lot of the intention that
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I think people were putting to another space. Actually, some
of these folks really were here and found love and
found friends and found a place a place to belong.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
So once again, no surprise. Again, we watched these shows
often differently with this is not a guilty pleasure for
the most part, might have started that way, but all
of a sudden now it's become relationship counseling and therapy
and recognition. So yes, Ason Shelley left last night, But
a big part of the show was, of course the
families being there, and family, as we know, is a
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big part of any relationship any of us have ever
been in. So several lessons and several questions we should
all be asking ourselves that they showed us last night.
One of them, when do you introduce somebody to your family?
Another question, how important is that family approval in your relationship?
Also can that family and friend approval ultimately be a
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bad thing? Also ask yourself this, how do you sleep
next to your partner every single night? And does it
matter at all? These are just a few of the
lessons rope. Let's start at the top. Look, they're in
a different scenario because they only there for six weeks,
different timeline and all that. But in the normal, in
the real world, you're gonna tell me it's different for everybody.
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But let's go generally. I mean, is there a time
that's too soon to be introducing to absolutely? Really?
Speaker 2 (03:55):
Oh yes? Oh wow, I've introduced people to my mom
way too soon, And I believe you've heard about it
soon though, Like I mean.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
No, no, are we talking days, weeks or just it might
not be ready, you know, for your own sake, I'm
not in a good enough position with this person to introduce.
Is that what the measures you?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Well, it could be. But also I've had the experience
of I might have been ready, but my parents weren't,
and so that actually was something that I should have
considered that I didn't do in the past that actually
ended up being a problem.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Okay, I have to stop there. How do you know
when your parents aren't ready? Because folks are listening to this, Okay,
I'm ready, my partner's ready, but my parents aren't ready.
How do you know that?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
You have to ask them and I think that I
have moved past that. In my enthusiasm, I didn't consider
where they were and how they thought about me and
where I was, And a lot of times in retrospect,
I can say this, your parents know best. They know
that it's too soon after a breakup, it's too soon
after a divorce, it's too soon after everything, and so.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
You're never going to listen to that.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Of course I didn't, okay, but it still was undermining
the whole situation because I pushed, I pushed, I pushed.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
Your parents told us it was too soon. Now it
wasn't too soon to meet them. We obviously have been
hanging out with your parents many many years before you
and I ever started dating. But as far as you
dating someone else, they told us it was too soon.
That's different from this and introduction. But still parents do
chime in on what they think is the right time
they do.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
Yes, you've known my parents for a decade, so that
was not even an issue at all. But yes, I
think everyone likes to see their children at least get
to know themselves and understand what they've just been through
before they enter into another relationship.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
But the introduction part for the parents, I didn't think
about it that way. The parents aren't ready to meet
whoever you might be dating for whatever reason. Maybe they
like the last person you were dating a lot, and
we're not ready for the new guy. But it was
always for me, just a matter of when this person
I'm dating became relevant enough to meet. Like, you don't
get the pleasure. You don't get that upside. Don't get
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that you don't get that privilege of meeting my parents.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
It's incredibly intimate to meet someone's parents because you learned
so much about the person you're dating. You learn about
who was raising them, what their values are, what their
family family dynamic is, and all of that is very
obviously it's instrumental. It's you have to know that. I
think at least it makes a huge difference and me
understanding You didn't you say this. You understood me more
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when you got to know my parents more, or when
you got to know you're like, oh, I see why
she does this, I see why she reacts like that.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
It's helpful. It's not not helpful. The understanding, Yes, it's helpful,
but in saying okay, I can give her a break
on that, you see where it comes from. It does
with your daughters as well. The time I spend with
Anna Lease and Navel now it all and with your mom,
I see a circle circle.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Yes, hear that, And it's funny too, Like getting to
know your dad and seeing his eight grills and how
he prepares a meal for thirty when there's four of us,
and him wanting to get everywhere an hour before he's
supposed to, and seeing your sister saying, Dad, please don't
get there so early. I understand why you TikTok the
way you do, And even seeing your mom's quiet but
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all knowing personality, and then when she does chime in,
everybody better listen. You see the traits of each and
then you're like, that's why he's like this, that's why
he does this, and you can understand it.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
So on this point of when to introduce, does it
really it's hard to put a number or time on it.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I think it does.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Is it really is the most relevant point? When I'm ready,
when the person i'm dating's ready, Oh, when my parents
are ready, Like all those have to be factored in.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
I guess I think it has to be factored in.
But I do believe when you want this person to
be a significant part of your life, when you want
to bring them to the family barbecue, when you want
to bring them to church, when you want that's when
you want to introduce them to your family first. But
it's I think it's so individual.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
How important though another thing the other lesson so as
you could pluck out from this last episode, episode thirty four,
that just aired on Friday night, how important is and
should family approval be, no matter what your no matter
all of us want it. Don't we want our family
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to like the person we're dating.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
I just my experience has shown if you had asked
me this question twenty years ago, I would have said
I'd like for it to be something that they approved of,
but it wouldn't be a make or break for me,
And that is how I have operated. And look, if
I had followed my family's feelings or advice beforehand, I
probably would have made fewer mistakes in my life. But
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I think sometimes you have to go through those on
your own to figure out what you need and what
you want, and mistakes are a part of learning and growing.
So I do think it's very important, but I don't
think that you should make or break a relationship based
on your family's films because they don't know the person
the same way you do.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
And we bring this up because in last night's episode
of Almost Said Family Guy for some reason, if we're
talking about family, last night's episode of Love Island, we
saw so many couples almost flip a switch when the
families got there and for them to get support from family,
they went back into their relationship renewed and almost with
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a new energy and optimism about making it work.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
There's nothing better then, especially because everyone has doubts from
their relationships, don't we all? Don't we all question? Wait?
Is that the right person for me? Should I be
in this relationship? That is a very real and common
and maybe even frequent thought that goes into a lot
of folks's minds. But when your family says I've been
watching and I've been watching every good think about the
window into their world these families have had that most
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people never You and I would never get to see
what's going on in our children's lives like this, or
have access to the relationship like these families have. So
to have had that access and to be able to say,
I like her, I like her with you, I like
the way he looks at you. That is so reassuring.
I can't think of anything more reassuring than that, Because
the person who loves you the most, who thinks you
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should be treated the best, is saying, Hey, this guy
that I've been watching, he's the right guy. He's a
good guy for you.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
That's how huge important is that you know? I should
ask it this way. I think you already answered it.
Have you ever? Have you ever and yes, you have?
You've continued with someone in a relationship that your family
didn't want you to and they have disapproval. Yes, Now,
have you ever gotten out of a relationship with somebody
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that your parents wish you'd continued? Did they love this boyfriend?
They were crazy about him, and like, oh crap, it's
gonna piss my parents off if I have to, if
I when I break up with this dude because they
like him so much.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
I've never had that experience.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Okay, your parents, now.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
It's always been the opposite.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
As it was coming out, you can see my eyes
going up as I was talking my way through.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
That is this crazy of me to think, But it
seems like when it comes to parents and gender, like
most people don't think any guy is good enough for
their daughter. But I think a lot of dudes are like,
she's good for you, she grounds you, she takes care
of you. I think a lot of times I would
see more of like the male's parents supporting the woman
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saying she's good for him, and a lot of the
female the girl's parents thinking a guy isn't good enough
for her.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Why because the question is the same, but the thought
is the same whether if you're the parent of a
boy or parent of a girl, you want that boy
and that girl to be taken care of. Yes, So
when the boy is being taken care of by his woman,
it's what it's an emotional care. And from the woman's side,
is he going to be a protector and a provider? Yes,
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you think about that stuff first and when you break
it down in that way. And what we saw on
the show, it was so interesting to see Chris and
Hudah in particular, Chris was nervous as hell.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Oh he was sweating it. You even pointed out his
body language before he because they didn't know which family
members were coming or friends. So he was in almost
fetal position as much as you can be when you're
six eight. But you said look at him. It's like
he's a kid who's in trouble.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
Totally recoiled. He totally was sitting there in the corner
like he was being punished and scared. It's weird to
see from his six eighth brother doing that. But he
was worried that they have seen how Hudah has behaved.
He knows his mama and his sister. He got girls
coming to her.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
He kept saying, my people woo.
Speaker 1 (12:41):
So we were all nervous, and I thought it was
gonna go one of two ways when it comes to
black women in my experience and my aunt's, my mama's sister,
They're either gonna totally embrace and love or are they
gonna say hell gnaw and reject. There's very little middle grounds. Yea,
I have found. But black women just nurtured that they
are and they recognize and they related to her.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I actually I was My heart warmed.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
You know what.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
I thought was so cool that they could see somebody
who was acting childishly at times and toxically at times
and said, you know what, we know her, we understand her.
She's a single mom, she's been through a lot of shit,
she's had a lot of shitty relationships, and they related
to her and they recognized, which I loved her growth,
her growth. They were proud of their son for being calm,
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cool and collected, and that was so cool. So he
got props from being really that steady, emotional person who
she needed in that moment and allowed her to grow.
And so they appreciated what he did and they were
proud of him. They said, Mom raised you right, and
that was so good to see. But they also liked
and loved how Judah evolved and recognized it took some time,
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as it always does, that she wasn't behaving properly in moments.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Family and friend approval is so critical, and I'm thinking
of myself in that matter I.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Have.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
I don't think I've ever had my parents expressed to
me like, uh uh.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
This is not somebody I was just gonna ask you that.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
I don't think I'm thinking back to high school now
at this point, I think that might have been somebody
in junior high. My mom wasn't feeling like that girl's trouble.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
But do your parents. My impression of them is that
they trust your judgment and they would never want to
question it.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
That's fair. I think certainly my adult I think that's fair.
My mom is the one she'll raise a red flag
and a heartbeat. She's done that throughout my life. But
I don't have many certainly in my adult life and
serious relationships have they raised red flags about it? So
maybe I've I don't know in that regard, I've brought
decent enough people home.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
I do feel like, tell me what your impression is
that both of our parents are rooting for us like
heaven in a relationship, yes, oh, yes.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yes, yes. But I have never been in a relationship
where I felt unsupported by my parents either, I say,
I'm always supporting. I've never been in a relationship where
I felt they were rooting weren't rooting for it.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I have had that experience when my parents were actively
rooting against a relationship. And they've expressed it to you,
not towards you, towards other people.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
I'm nervous, not because I know they ain't shy about it.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
No, no, they're not. And the thing is they are
absolutely rooting for us and for you. They like you,
they love you so yes, I and look they would
tell me if they weren't.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
But the other lesson or the other question. At least
that they Love Islanders made us think about is can
family and friend approval end up being a bad thing? Yeah.
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We pick it up here with this idea of family
approval after the episode of Love Island last night, episode
thirty four, in which we saw I go down to
the final four. These are the ones that will be
of course in the finalely now that America will vote
on for the finale on Sunday. But we're talking about
family approval. Friend and family approval can be a good thing.
We saw ropes in the last episode, how it kind
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of switched turns some relationships around.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
Oh yeah, Hudah and Chris were all bowed up after
their families and before they were sitting on opposite sides
from They couldn't have been further away from each other,
like ooh, this is not going to be good. And
at the end they were all over each other.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Mama showed up, friends showed up, sister showed up and
say we like you guys, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Sudden boom, approval meant everything, So it.
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Can mean everything. My opposite side of that is what
happens when you're in a relationship. Maybe you've been married
five years, ten years, your family is close to this
guy or this gal. Can that also be a bad
thing and that you're staying in a relationship that's not
good necessarily for you, but you don't want to disappoint
so many other people who are who have a good
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impression of your spouse.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
And the answer to that is yes. And I think
in my experience it was children. It wasn't necessarily brothers
or family members who were rooting for or wanting you
to stay together because they liked the person you were
with as much as they like you. But I think
kids can throw that into the mix as well, where
you know your children love somebody or love their dad,
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or love their mom or whatever, and that absolutely has
an impact on whether you stay. So do some people
stay out of guilt because they know everyone in their
life loves them so much they don't want to disappoint friends, family, parents, children, Yes,
And that is a bad thing. That is never a
good thing for you to stay in a relationship because
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someone else wants you to.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Man. You think when you said to you the kid thing,
I certainly get and that when you put it with
that perspective, then obviously the answer is absolutely you shouldn't
stay in a relationship when it comes to kids. I'm
thinking about let's take kids out of it for a second.
But the idea of someone being that you're married to,
being so close to your mom, being so close to
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your sister, being so close in some way, and to
the point that if you end up out of the relationship,
they might continue with some friendships or relationships with your
family members. We can get into that on a whole
other appas that's tough. But when you think of it
that way, can can that be a bad thing? Yes,
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when you are, but are you starting to listen to
those people a little bit and go, Wow, maybe I'm
missing something. If everybody loves this gal of this guy,
and I'm the only one that has a problem.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
So I do think that it if it causes you
to do some internal reflection, like am I the problem?
Am I the issue? Do I need to work on
my level of tolerance or my Yes, that can be
a good thing. I think that would be the first step, like, Wow,
why does everybody else love this person and I'm not
feeling it? Maybe I'm the one who needs to do
some work on myself. So if that is your first
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instinct that's a good one, that's never a bad thing.
So yes, I would say that should be the first
thing you do at a certain point. You have to
trust your gut, you have to trust your your perception
of things. And the truth is, your friends and family
can only know that person so well. You obviously know
that person on a much deeper, much more intimate level.
You've seen them at their worst in a way your
friends and family maybe have not. So I think there
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are a lot of people who are very good at
charming the room and working the room and making everyone
fall in love with them, but when it comes to
when you close your door, you might act differently. So
I don't think it's a fair representation of who that
other person is you're with, you know what I.
Speaker 1 (19:31):
Will This is again, this is just hitting me now.
Love island an advantage that they do have. The families
do get to see people behave behind closed doors quote unquote,
but they are witnessing things that you normally wouldn't witness.
So these families probably have a better sense of who
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their loved ones are dating than you and I parents
had after six weeks.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Absolutely, because think about it. So for people who don't
understand a lot of reality shows, they've got cameras up
in your face, and you act differently when you've got
a camera crew there and lights and micro These folks
wear these microphones all day. They probably forget they're there.
The cameras are fixed so they don't have photographers or people.
So you get comfortable, right, you start acting. Then there
you throw a drink or two in there. I know
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they're limited in how much they can drink, but you're
a little bit you know, lubricated, so to speak, and
you will eventually fall into a place of comfort and
be yourself. And I think we definitely have seen that
where people genuinely forget in the moment that they're actually
being watched by millions of people, including the other people's parents.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
Well, I think now these folks probably do. They could
speak more confidently about the relationships that they're loved ones
are in than our parents, or in our parents' relationship
or anybody most parents would normally have. The last thing
I want to hit on here, the last lesson that
they taught it is this is kind of funny and
kind of acute one, but it is worth talking about
because we always talk about it. This was Chris and Huda.
They had all kinds of problems in the last two
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episodes of they had the back and forth about who
walked off and he won't kiss them in public, blah.
But if they weren't doing great, no, before this episode.
Speaker 2 (21:06):
They were not.
Speaker 1 (21:07):
However, there was a shot in this past episode if
you all caught it. They were sleeping at night, you
know they do. The lights are out and they just
take shots of each bed if you will. Sometimes there's
some making out going on under the covers and different stuff.
Chris and Huda were just asleep, but they were sleeping.
This couple that's been through hell, that's not doing great.
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They were all over each other and not in a
way that they made an intentional effort to cuddle. But
they were just asleep and naturally and not even in
a cute way. I say cute way.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
It wasn't a sexual way stage shot.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
They were just you have to be comfortable with someone
to sleep that way with someone, And they were just
kind of lay a mess all over each other. And
I thought it was cute. I said, wow, look at them,
and it made me think, what does that tell us
about ourselves? Our relationship and where that relationship is they
based on how you sleep in the bed at night.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yeah, And we talked about how they slept in the
bed the night where they were having the fight. He
turned his back on her. You know, it was a
very obvious f you physically.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Yes, conscious, this was not a conscious effort. It was
a natural thing. Were just sloppily kind of old for
each other.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
It got me thinking that this is the couple we've
seen have more conflict than any other couple. But it
also made me think, we've talked to this how real
they've been, because that's that's embarrassing to kind of have
all that mess out there, But to be willing to
be like that, and to be open and vulnerable, to
be able to admit you e ft up, to cry,
to have all those things, it does bring you closer together.
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When you realize, hey, we've been through all of this
shit and we're still here and we're still together, you
do get a level of intimacy that is far deeper
than sex can give you or physical touch can give you.
When you've been through hell and you're still there, that
to me is true intimacy. And that's what we saw.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
So that's I ask everybody listening, How do you sleep
next to your partner every night? Follow up to that?
Does it matter and give any indication of where your
relationship is? Maybe not. Some people, for practical reasons, sleep
in separate beds in separate rooms because they like the
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lights so like this, they like the bed like this,
they like this much noise, all kinds of things. But generally,
can we read anything about our relationship based on how
you sleep?
Speaker 2 (23:29):
I think you can to an extent. It's not you know,
it's not black and white. But I will say for me,
if I want to be next to you and near you,
even though it's warmer than I want, or it's maybe
louder than I want, or it's bright, but the most
important thing is I sleep best when I know you're
next to me. I don't I think for me that
(23:50):
there's an Again, there's an intimacy to sleeping next to somebody.
You're vulnerable. You might snore, you might drool, you might you.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Know all that stuff. Yep, all of it at nightly heavily.
Speaker 2 (24:02):
And if you still love me and want to be
in the bed next to me, that's something. But that's like,
that's just absolutely you aren't putting on airs when you're sleeping,
you're not pretending to be something you're not. You are
who you are when you sleep.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
And this is a true story, people. This is the
way we slept last night. I am looking at the
sectional where the two of us slept last night. We
fell asleep watching a movie on h ah wow it
was on Peacock yes, drop right, it was Drop Drop
the movie we uh, we fell asleep on it. We
fell asleep on each other. She was in one part
of the second sectional, fully, and I was in another part,
(24:37):
but both my legs were over in her side of
the sectional. Correct For whatever reason, I woke up in
the middle of the night and we weren't in that
position anymore, and instead she had a pillow from the
bedroom onto the couch and I was laying on a
couch pillow.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
But our head we're touching.
Speaker 1 (24:57):
We're touching. We had angled ourselves on this sectional in.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
This it it's funny.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
This perpendicular way and where our heads were together.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
So it's funny you say that because I woke up
at because we always I always wake up at three,
so of course I just automatically woke up at three
fifteen and I was like, you know what, and I
saw our heads were touching, and we both had two
little tiny pillows, and I was like, I think I'm
gonna go get a pillow from the bed. So I
went up at three fifteen, got the pillow from the bed,
but our heads were still touching.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
So it's interesting. We don't get to do that all
the time because our schedules during the week are just
an absolute mass. We don't even go to bed at
the same time, it seems anymore. But I just thought
that jumped out at me, and it made me think
about how we sleep, how we slept when we first
started dating, how we slept when we have had a fight,
how we sleep the night after we make up from
(25:48):
that fight. All kinds of stuff factors in, So pay
attention to that, folks, How you sleep tonight. Does the
say anything about your relationship? Maybe not, but ask yourself
this as well. Where do you want to be so
out you see your partner in that bed, where would
you like to go?
Speaker 2 (26:03):
That is so telling. It might and it could change daily,
it could change hourly, But generally speaking, I always want
to You always make fun of me because sometimes I'm like,
all up next to you, and let me just tell you,
I've never been like that before, but I like for
one part of my body to be touching one part
of yours.
Speaker 1 (26:23):
All Right, folks, we've been sending across the table as
we've been recording this, so we're gonna stop now so
I can get to the other side of the table.
She's getting antsy. We haven't touched in twenty seven minutes.
So because this has been great and let's ever mind
obviously all of you all know, but the well, we
got two nights of this. Yeah, so Saturday night tonight
(26:43):
and then tomorrow's a finale. Huda and Chris, Iris and
Pepe Alandria and Nick and Anaya.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
And Ryan, Brian, Brian sorry Brian Brian with a why. Okay, yep,
so kind of like Ryan I wrote down, Ryan Brian
with a bee.
Speaker 1 (26:58):
Can we say now? No, We'll wait and we'll tell
you who we like for the We'll do that later.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
Yeah, well, we'll see that next episode.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We'll do that later. But folks, we always appreciate you
all going along on this ride with us. But for now,
I'm J Holmes alongside my very touchy feeling partner Amy Robot.
We'll talk to y'all soon.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Mm hmmm mmm hmmm
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