January 25, 2024 • 50 mins
Lacey Schwimmer is back by popular demand to sort through all of this weeks DWTS headlines with Cheryl. They dive into stories about. Harry Jowsey, Jenna and Val Chmerkovskiy, Joey Graziadei, Kendra Wilkinson, Shannen Doherty and more. 2 strong ladies with 2 strong opinions, makes todays chatter something you don't want to miss.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex Lies and Spray Tands with me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Sex
Lives and spray Tans. All right, So I have a
special guest who's going to be doing headlines and hot
topics with me. But before we do that, I'd like
to cover a headline that is definitely buzzing around and
it's definitely relevant as of now. It's Alison Hulker. She
(00:23):
went on this press tour about her book that just
came out, and she was on Nick Viles podcasts who
were actually having on here I think in the next
week or two, and basically asked her if she would
be open to finding love with a new partner. And
you know, she admitted she has been asked a lot
about that specific question, and Hulker said that before she
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could even consider finding love with a new partner, she
had to heal quote. I think the first thing I
had to do for myself this last year a big
thing because it was hard. It was very hard for
me to learn to like myself again, to learn to
love myself. The former Dancing with the Stars pro continued. Then, also,
could I like someone else again? Could I even love
someone else again. This was all from heavy dot com,
(01:10):
and she also noted it's a very complex situation I
found myself in. As much as she loved and still
loves twitch, Hlker recognized, at the end of the day,
I love life. I feel like for me, the kind
of life I like to live, the outlook I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Have on life.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It took me a long time to accept all of
those things, Hulker noted, in considering what her future looks like.
All of that said, in terms of finding love again,
Holker replied, so why should I even shy away from it?
Am I looking for it? I don't know, She summed
up by sharing, I'm definitely not shying away from it,
but I'm not looking for it. So I don't know
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like the exact time or if it's been like a year,
or if it's been less than a year, or it's
been two years. I don't really know their timeline. But look,
it's not the same. But I can only speak for
my own experience. I think I've been I think separate
and divorce now for close to three years, and I
am definitely not looking for it. So I think, to
each their own, I'm pretty sure you know Twitch would
(02:06):
want her to move on, but I think move on
with like obviously whenever she has healed that part of her.
I mean, I don't think you're ever healed. I think
it's to really like yourself and love yourself. It's an
ongoing process and hopefully you are able to meet somebody
who's also on the same journey of self improvement. I
think that Look, Allison is out there right now, and
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she's definitely focusing on her career from what I see,
but I think she's on the right track when it
comes to her, you know, mental health. I think it's
very important that you get that intact as well. And
she also has kids, so she has to kind of
you know, I don't know what. I'm not going to
tell her what she has to do, but she has
more than just herself to think about. Put it that way.
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So let's introduce our special guests. Back by popular demand, Everyone,
please welcome Lazy Swimmer to the podcast. Aloha Stranger, Helloa,
Where are your lays? Have you gotten laid?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Nah? When you live here, you don't get lais. I
can't think it's a tourist thing.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So how are you loving a Hawaii Island life?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Are you kidding? What's not to love? And I know,
isn't that it's real? Well, I sat out in the
sun a little too long yesterday. It looks worse than
it feels. It feels fine, but you know, just gorgeous.
You look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean really, though, I it's a huge move, like
you're not there one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, I can't. I mean with work and travel and
you know, no I can't. But we're trying to be
here at least a week a month at this point.
We meaning my boyfriend, yes, yes, that's a brother. Noo.
No yo, And that's how and that's why I don't
(03:56):
speak Spanish, right, yeah, No, we're here like a month
at this point. Do you just go to us? Are
you kidding? Yes? I want to like just be here
all the time. I want to have like a thousand
rescued bulldogs and just call in a day. That's like
my dream. Where are you? What island?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not to give us the address or anything, but well
my coordinance.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
No, I'm in Oahu, so Honolulu is our main city here,
but I actually live in the heart of Waikiki. So
if I'm looking out at my lanai, my God, give
me a tour later. I will definitely not while we're recording,
but yes, I will give you the tour when we're
done with this. Yes, but yeah, I am two blocks
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from Waikiki. I see the ocean. I have diamond head. Yeah,
it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I love the word diamond.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm sure you do.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Even if it's ahead, I'll get I'll take all diamond heads.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, both are great.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
All right, Well, welcome to the headlines and hot topics,
portion of sex, lies and spray dances. There's just all
I do is talk about dancing with the stars. Let's
just get straight into it. Okay, do you know who
Harry Josie is?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay? Will you be mad at me if I said.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, I'm not mad at you at all about any
of this. So I'm gonna this is gonna be me
just getting your reaction. I'm going to tell you about it.
And if you don't know somebody, guess what. I don't
know anyone either. So all I know is I know
Harry Jousey. He was on last season. He danced with Brightley.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh wait, is that the British guy like the tall kid.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He's Australian. Okay, say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But I didn't. But thank you for the warning. I
mean I was thinking it. Yeah, No, I isn't he
from like Love Island or like one of.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Those reality on the Netflix show?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's the one that actually went pretty far.
He made it almost to the semifinals, and he wasn't
necessarily a natural dancer, right, No, so he just did
a I guess. An interview People dot Com was an exclusive,
Harry Jousey says he got skinny fat from eating so
many snacks on the Dancing with the Star set, So basically,
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you know, Harry Jousey can't tame his sweet tooth after
making it to the quarterfinals on the most recent season
of Dancing Jouzy, who's twenty six, he's only twenty six. Well, anyway,
I know he's joining. I mean not in a bad way.
He looks like a man like he's like, yeah, manly
men eating all the sugar. But basically he's saying that,
look I got I think I got fatter during he said,
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I think I got fatter during my time on Dancing
with the Stars. I got so skinny fat because on
rehearsal days we just eat. There's so many snacks around.
Don't put food in front of me. Ever, he continues
to describe his experience with the well stocked craft services
on set. I was like, why are there lullies here?
Why is there sugar? Why are their muffins? I don't
need it around me because I'll find any excuse to
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number one eat and number two not dance. So I
was just always eating food. What do you think about this? See,
it's like it's I don't when I'm nervous, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Eat, so you know, Okay, so I I understand, Like
my first ever craft experience was what so you see? Well,
I mean, yeah, well it's Cheryl the craft service lady. Yes, yes,
she's phenomenal. I mean she's an og. She's a gangster
out there. But when I was on so you think
you can dance, which is the same studio that Dancing
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with the Stars films at. You know, when you're eighteen,
you're like, all of this is free. So I was
totally doing the thing where I would like bring my
something and I would take it home, so like I'm
a starving dancer, like this is free, let's go totally.
But then when I got onto Dancing with the stars,
Like you know that idea of like keeping your body right.
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I almost like shied away from it totally.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I was a trailer eater. I would just wait till
no one was watching me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
One hundred percent. Yeah, you should have done that together.
You know, we were more concerned with taking diet fills.
I feel like just too.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean I was playing that shit in my food.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh no, it was like clockwork. We we were going
to town. Now we can laugh about it, but it's
very sad, but no, it is true. And like the
craft service is as great as it is. It's not
just for the dancers. It's for the crew, the staff,
it's for everybody. So it's like it's actually better.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's only actually the craft service because there isn't I
mean unless he's eating the stale granolas at the dance studio.
But like there isn't really craft service unless it's changed
last season, but there isn't craft service during the rehearsal,
when you need the food the most, there isn't anything
there as much. But like when you are there doing
camera blocking, live show whatever, then they like they make
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like yummy fresh peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They have those smokers. I love that. That's your level
of cooking. Like that's really yummy. It's peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches you buy, Okay, sis, listen, I remember when
she would bring out like Swedish meatballs.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I wouldn't even go there or I was so ashamed.
I was so scared people were going to be your fat.
Stop eating.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I was just trying to avoid sitting with people for
too long. So I found comfort in the food. So
I understand.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean, I also can't eat when I'm nervous, like
I will literally I have I'll have major gas, like
there's no way.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I feel like I respect that. But like
I am all is hungry. I am one of those people.
You put food in front of me, I will eat it,
whether I've already had seven burgers, like I am. I
am a connoisseur of food.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I get like that once a month right before I'm like,
you know, the girl stuff. But like I have to say,
maybe Harry should have danced more if he didn't want
to get skinny fat.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, okay, you know, our schedules are crazy. There's really
not time to work out, and I'm sure he's used
to that kind of lifting weights in the gym thing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I mean his partner a lot, she's two pounds.
I know. Riley is literally like this, Okay, let's move on.
Eh So, Jenna and Val Schmerkovski are currently on the
Dancing of the Stars tour. I remember those days, did
you on tour?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yes, don't remind me. Remember those were the good old days.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We have a funny story about our tour.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh no, probably multiple. But remember when they used to
wine and Dinah's like we would stay at the Rich
just to take a poop press and how they sleep
on buses you know that, right?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They don't remember pasta station.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, do you remember those videos we would you with
Louis on the trail, like Alex was making fun of
Louie like he was like doing these skits. We're doing skits?
Maybe that one? Which one did you join the second one?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Or third one? Or first or second? Second? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because I yeah, I only did two, so okay. But
do you remember how they the celebs would have their
own tour buses? Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's not like
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Lazy, no, I know, And they're not staying at hotels
like we were at the Ritz. We like what we
were also in arena tours, they're doing theaters. It's a
little different now, so yeah, and I mean not saying
that like what they're doing now is not working. It's
just it's a different time. People are not wanting to
spend money on those kinds of tickets anymore, and you know,
everything is accessible. So I do feel like it's just
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the era of the world that we're in. We were
in kind of that heyday of touring and traveling and
you can only really see them in person once. You know,
we did not know how to handle all of it. No, no, no,
we were like living our rockstar fantasies on tour, like
we were so stupid, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, I played Spin the Bottle with I'm not
going to say who, but like literally in my room,
like we would do this a nightly.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We will talk about that later. I remember a certain
sneaking into my cabin when y'all were partying, and I
was like totally apprude. I was like, nah, I'm not
gonna debt, and I was like sleeping in my little
cabin on that bunk. Also tell me later then, like
they tried finagling and I think I punched them in
the stomach and like yeah, they were like try to
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get in and get all cute with me. I'm like, ah,
We're not doing this in your coffin. You're like right, no, no, no. Honestly, though,
best sleep I've ever had is in my coffin on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
On a serious note, so the Dancing with the Stars pro,
Jenna basically asked fans to respect the family's boundaries in privacy.
I guess something happened where, she said, just something that
happened today, and for the remainder of the tour that
myself and my family are on, I would really love
some respect backed in privacy. When it comes to my son,
Jenna said, today we had a little incident where he
and my nanny were followed onto the elevator of the hotel.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I guess they do.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Stay at hotels, maybe for that one night that we're
staying at. She added that her son Rome and the
nanny were then followed onto the floor that our room
was on. Then the Dancing with the Stars pro ass,
please just respect our privacy. For me, as a mom,
that's really dangerous and I really don't appreciate it. I
love the excitement towards our family, but he's just a baby,
so please respect that. Thank you all in advance for understanding.
(12:28):
I'm happy to be back on the road. I love
you guys. It's been a dream come true to do
this and to do it with my family. But yeah,
just some boundaries would be really, really awesome. What do
you think about this? It's scary. That is scary.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I mean, and I think both of us can
understand this. We both have had stalkers. But for me,
I think I still do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I know right, to be fair, someone sent me a
doggy blanket, but we're not going to go there. It's
so weird pictures of my dog on a blanket and
it wasn't I thought it was my sister, so I
was like, thanks Sis. She's like, I didn't send that
to you. I'm like, hey, b frokay stress response.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, but we'll talk about that later. It's not about me. Yeah.
I feel like the quote of this whole interview is
we'll talk about that later. But no, I mean, Jenna
has every right to protect her child, and I you know,
I don't have kids. I don't want kids. I think
this is one of those reasons, is it's just so
much responsibility and so much stress put on you constantly
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for the rest of their lives. Right, she has every
right to protect her kid, and for someone to be
that low and follow an infant somewhere.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Really, it wasn't even Jenna and what's on Reddit are saying, well,
then don't post so many pictures of your kid on
her kids two different lights.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
She can do whatever she wants, just like we can
all do it. But there are boundaries, and there is
self respect for other human beings out there. And yeah, personally,
like just knowing what it feels like, that uncertainty of
not knowing if you turn a corner, if somebody is there.
It's a very scary feeling. Now imagine that with an infant.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And her nanny who's not used to probably all of
this attention, right, I mean we shoulder. Now, that's how
they're going to have to live. This tour is, by
the way, sixty three cities. I think it's more than
I think we've I don't know if we've ever. I
think we did fifty eight or something.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was in the fifties.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, it's I mean good on that. First of all,
I don't know how they're doing this with a kid.
It's a lot. That must be a lot. And then
they're all sharing a bus, right, so it's not just
their bus.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, many blessings.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
But back in our day, we would be I don't
think it would be appropriate because we would be drinking that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah. I our era was the party era, Like we
were not housing children.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Basically, we were in rockstars. We definitely thought it. Definitely yes. Okay,
so do you follow the Bachelor at all?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Okay, so that's my guilty pleasure show. Really I've never
seen it? Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No? No, no? We need a bachelor a wrett. Can
we do a petition for Sherel?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I already pitched Love is Blind the celebrity version, and
I would love to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I am so here for it. I want to be
a cheerleader. I will do it and tell me what
he looks like. Yeah, I'm sure that we can't like
not like I'll be the sneak. I'll be like the snitch.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But how could event I mean I pitched the president
of Netflix this recently. I said, listen, you have to
do it, and he goes, how would we do it?
I said, well, you have to have rules. You'd get
disqualified if you announced, like who, like what you do
for a living?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
One is a celeb or whatever. Yeah, no, we have
to all be celebrities. Oh see, I think you should
do fifty to fifty, like half of the girls are
half of them are normal the other and then like
see who connects cut me in as a producer. Okay,
I'll get right on that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, let's talk about Joey Gratsdy. I'm saying that all wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Howe you say it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Anyway, we're going to talk first name base only with Joey.
This is headline already sparking dancing with the Stars of
rumors ahead of the Bachelor of premierees. He reveals his
grand plan on live show on Live on Kelly's Live Show.
It is no longer readis in Kelly? Whoa, it's Live
with Kelly. I'm a little old, just aged myself back
twenty thousand years.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So he appeared online with Kelly and Mark, her husband
on Monday, where he was asked if dancing with the
stars was in his grand plan? Hmmm, is this why
he was the Bachelor and now I'm kidding he's only
twenty eight. Wow, he's young. He's already found love. So
he didn't confirm or deny. Basically he said that he
would he like to do it, and he said, well,
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if that call comes, I'd be open to it. But
to be honest, I'm trying to do one reality show
at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay, totally different things.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well I okay, So do you believe in the Dancing
with the Stars cursed?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what that is? I mean there's many which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm talking about the Bachelor bachel like, So basically what
they're saying with this whole curse is like when the
back her bachelorette comes on, that their relationship ends up
not working because I mean, honestly, it's because there was
no foundation being built. I think for me, when I
had Trista Setter on when this first launch this podcast,
she said, I don't think it's a good idea for
anyone involved to be to go straight from being locked
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up with your other one that you whoever you are,
you proposed to, and then go straight into like the
real world and goes straight onto Dancing with Stars. Look,
I kind of agree with her.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I do too. In fact, I just met Trista like
a year ago at a dance.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Thing that she was at and she oh with her kids.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yes, she is a phenomenal woman. She's a real one
and yeah, A big fan of hers. I think she's
the og of what that show started out, right, and
it's since changed so much, just like Dancing with the Stars,
everything evolves, right.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Also, the og to get eliminated first, very first celebrity
ever to be eliminated on Dancing with Stars something crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's true that, Oh I didn't realize that. Yeah, okay,
But here's the thing. New relationships need time, it needs consistency,
it needs something to build. And I feel like when
you're on a television program, you're already under a microscope,
so you're kind of not being your one hundred percent
authentic self, right, There's no way you can be. You're
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you're on alert all the time. So I don't think
they should take these people days after they announce that
these people are together and then put them into our
situation and that you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ever see each other, because that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's seven days a week, sometimes ten hours a day,
if not more, depending on what you've never going on,
and not to mention more times than you know most
you're dancing with a different gender than you and these
people have never had people bumping and grinding on them
like what we do, so it's hard for them to
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understand the artistry behind what we're doing. I think that
they see it in more of like, oh, we go
into the club and like, yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I hate when people compare that. They go, what I
after a couple of drinks, you know, I'm a great dancer.
It's like you guys have zero clue, Like, do some research.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Charity was on last season she was the Bachelorette. It
actually worked, I mean like she was able to still
but also she was paired with Artem they're both in
happy relationship exactly that. I think it also depends on
like the person you're paired with.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, it is situational, right, Like I think if they
take him and they put him with one of the young,
hot single girls, like there is going to be that
temptation there for him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, why do you think that bachelorettes win and bachelor's don't.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I mean, I think a lot of the bachelorettes came
from like cheer or they have dance background, where generally
most of the bachelors don't have that background.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, so you're right, Okay, Britt and Daniel. Do you
know who those two are?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I do?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
How cute they're engaged, and I just, first of all,
I love that Britt even before they were partners, like,
she took it upon herself to learn sign and I
love that she was very proactive with that whole thing.
And what's so crazy? I feel bad for the interpreter though,
because you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did he lose his job?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm just wondering. That's not what the story is, but
I just wanted to I mean, it's just an ongoing question.
I mean, I'm sure they're still friends, but like you know,
he's no longer needed. Right Anyway, She was doing an
interview about her upcoming nuptials and basically they she said
that we're so excited because we're so interested in how
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this event will be. Half of the people will be
hearing and then the other half will be deaf. So
it's going to be this emerge of different cultures and
different perspectives. We will have interpreters available at our wedding oh,
maybe he didn't lose a job as well, because it's
a one off. It's a one off. Yeah, wan and done.
She said, we're gonna have interpreters, and you know, a
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lot of the people in her life, you know, they
don't have anyone that's deaf in their family, so ASL
is going to be completely new to my family. But
a non negotiable for me is that and an interpreter
does not interpret Daniel's vows. I love that so much.
It's really important for me to not hear another voice
in my aura. I just people better shut up then,
because you know, at my wedding I heard like the
most random things ever. But maybe I wasn't present. That's
(21:13):
another story. It's really important for me not to hear
another voice. I just really want that to just come
directly through me. Now, how we will make that accessible
for all of our hearing guests, we're still trying to
figure out. I don't think they should make it accessible,
just like they can always like put it in the
thing in the like schedule, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Like you write it out, like have it on Instagram,
cart works too, Like it's their day. Let them do
it however they want to do it. It's not for the
people sitting there. It is for them only, Like.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So hard though, that is so hard, lazy, let me
tell you it was for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
For my wedding, well half of your wedding with celebrities,
so let's start there.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, I mean maybe, but also I think I was
just so I had like laser tunnel vision. I was like,
nothing's gonna I was Ryan stoning Hershey kisses. Okay, like
Hershey Kisses called why I was. I had Mindy Weiss, Okay,
the top of the top wedding planner. I was micromanaging
(22:18):
her because clearly there was so many red flags. I
didn't want to face it, okay, And so like I
was in general, I was like a bridedilla because I
was so running away from what the there was like
actually hand that I should have really looked at.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, yeah, so deep, that's life should have what a No,
I mean, here's the thing, Like, you know, I'm not married,
I've never been married. Would I sure, it's really unimportant
to me, but I do know the importance that it
holds with a lot of people. And when you have
a story like theirs, I do think it's important to
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celebrate it and to keep people in a loop of
what you guys are doing. It's a way to tie
people in and draw them into your guys's world. But
at the end of the day, it's up to them. Yeah, right, Like,
if they want to know what is being said.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Ask And that's great that they're already having interpreters, Like
they didn't have to do that either.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think that's really sweet. Actually I didn't even know
that was happening. And yeah, that's super respectful. I think
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I love them together. I think they're so I'm so
happy for Brett, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I don't know Britt. I've never met her, obviously.
We know so many mutual friends and colleagues and things
like that, but not one person ever has a negative
thing to say about that girl. So, you know, I'm
just happy that people are happy and they found each
other like that, to me is just super endearing and
(23:41):
it's inspiring, and I hope that more people can find
true relationships like that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, like through dancing stars. I mean, isn't
that insane? Though, like it is, there are a few.
The next headline is about yours truly. Cheryl Burke says,
leaving Dancing with the Stars was scary and admits she's
(24:08):
this is weird. I'm talking about myself a third person.
I know you should do it. You should read it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The headline, Cheryl Burke says leaving Dancing with the Stars
was scary and admits she still has a lot of
mixed emotions. Burke, who hosts the podcast Sex Flies and
Spray Tans, spoke to the magazine for One Last Thing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Spoke to them last year. By the way, this was
last year, but it just came out though, so they
just released it. So back then I was living in
fear a little bit as to like, did I make
the worst decision of my life?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And do I still release emotions? I have to say
my therapist just said this to me too recently that like,
you know, in a way, like I normally would be
running away from all of this, Like as far as
feelings go about specifically, let's say the show, I wouldn't
be watching the show. I would definitely not talk about it.
And the fact that I've been having to as part
of my new job. Actually, in the long run, I
think has been it has been hard, but it's also
(25:03):
been very therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, that was the first thing that you told me.
Remember when I had reservations about doing your podcast for
the first time. Yes, And we had this text message
conversation back and forth of like what I felt comfortable with,
what I didn't feel comfortable with. And it's like, all
of our journeys are very personal and they're all very different,
and you, out of all of I would say the
(25:26):
female pros especially, you have kind of hit everything that
Dancing with the Stars offers. The highs, the lows, the ins,
the outs, the relationships, the injuries, the everything. You've You've
literally experienced it all, which is why I think you're
so well suited for doing something like this. But to me,
(25:48):
I felt the same things that you felt, and I
felt them earlier than you did. I got the boot,
you know, a long time before you did.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But there is no rest the boot. Oh well, that's kidding.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I just want to make that clear, bas you're a brat.
I booted myself out.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I do feel like I don't know. My biggest fear
was the uncertainty of what's next. And they don't give you,
you know, ideas of how to create a career after TV,
and I really feel like somebody should write a manual
or something, because that exit, like the day that you leave,
you're like, oh, a weight is lifted off my shoulders,
(26:30):
and then all of a sudden, it's like dead silence
and you go into this really weird depression. I don't
know if you did too, but I really did where
I deleted everybody's phone numbers out of my phone from
the show. I didn't want to see them on Instagram,
so I blocked them. I changed my personal phone number. Like,
I went through this really really weird system, and it
(26:55):
almost felt like I was trying to get rid of
a life that I would really proud of for a
really long time because it no longer existed.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You wanted to delete it all, like you just were
so hurt by Yeah, every Yeah I am, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I do believe like in doing stuff like what you're doing.
You told me that this show would be more like therapy,
and I trusted you with that. The second I did it,
it did feel very liberating, but it wasn't until I
got all the remarks and the comments and the messages
from people supporting me and you know, just kind of
(27:29):
being like just with me, right, and that's what you
said would happen, and it did. And obviously I got
some backlash. You know, we're here in public giving our opinions.
People aren't going to agree with us all the time,
and that's fine. But it was really nice for me
to speak my truth because I never had before. So
I think that this is a great thing that you're doing.
(27:50):
And I know that you were scared. I get it.
I was there, and I'm happy you have found this
path of healing and helping people and helping yourself because
ultimately that's what matters.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So I'm so happy you feel like that. Thank you,
by the way, And I think, yeah, there is a
sense of okay, well, this is my truth and whether
or not people agree is not our business and it's
not your business, and to be honest, it's not their
business to comment. But whatever, it is, what it is.
But for the most part, I still get, you know,
messages about your interview. And first of all, like the
(28:23):
more you share, it's not about ooh tea, you know,
like give me the tea. No, it's literally about okay, well,
I have all of these weird emotions and yet they're
still living in my body. And even if it was
Trista Sutter, she's still we could still talk for hours
because she was I mean, she's the one with the
least experience as far as longevity goes. She had so
(28:45):
much to talk about, and she never thought about certain
things that we would like bounce off of each other.
And I just think it's beautiful, and I think it
probably was a lot. I think you were over. I
think I mean I was crying when I saw these
comments about you crying from like just thank you for
hearing us, you know, and for hearing you, especially because
(29:05):
the last thing you want to feel is like, well,
first of all, for me at least, when all of
that shit was happening, I was like I was gaslighting
myself and I was like, did this not happen or whatever?
All this crap that, you know, the self talk. But wow,
it is liberating, right like it is. It just is
it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I think the climate that we live in, like,
especially as women, I feel like our opinions, people are
just chalking it up to be like a dramatic intermunication, right,
and you know, unfortunately in TV, I do feel like
women are still on the back end of everything, and
(29:42):
I feel like the treatment we get is so not
the same treatment that the men get in TV. Yeah,
and you know, I don't know if that will ever change.
I sure hope it does, but it is damaging. And
even if someone was misquoted in a magazine for trashing
you or whatever, it still hurts, right, And we're human.
(30:04):
We're allowed to feel these things, and we're allowed to
revisit and talk about it. Doesn't mean that we have
an opinion about those people currently in that state. It
just means like, at that point in time, like that
hurt me.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right, and I can talk about it. Yes, it's my life.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I could talk about it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's also feeling when you say like you can't well
you shouldn't feel like that, Like you actually can't dictate
to anybody how they feel. That is uncontrollable. Like it's
a feeling. Yes, that's the and that's what people don't understand.
It's like, get over it already, excuse me. Like I
could talk about something that may have happened to me
twenty five years ago, and if I had never talked
about it, I can talk about whatever I want to
(30:41):
talk about. Okay, if don't ever say get over to anybody.
It's just that's that's what hurts the most. It's like
as if we're being paranoid or sess like, no, no, it's
an experience that happened. Have we've forgiven the people involved? Yes,
that doesn't mean that it didn't happen, right.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And we can't just pretend it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Happen right Like most you can forgive, but.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You don't have to forget, right. Amen? So hellolujah, that's yeah.
But wait, there is something in your right up here
that I want to touch on. Sure, Oh shit, go ahead.
What is this about your haircut? Wait?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Haircut?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay, your last fashion disaster? Are you on the article?
You read the article? I'm reading a bullet point? Okay,
it says says last fashion disaster my first red carpet
photo I had no makeup on and my little dumb
and dumber haircut and seashells glued on my bootleg. Jas.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I have to share. I have to show you a picture,
please do.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Because I need to see what the heck this is?
Because when I read this, I was dying.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Wait have you never seen? First of all, you know,
my dumber hair. You saw the dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But when I first moved here brand at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Okay, but it wasn't when I first in my very
first red carpet. Okay, there was no brand, no one
knew me, and also I had no friends. Clearly, whoever
let me do this first of all? Not only okay, wait,
hold on, good, I'm going go goating. I'm going to
get a images and I'm going to the very first picture.
You're gonna die.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, my first red carpet is not much better, babe.
I had a side bank that was like a helmet.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So I just had a sad side bank till like
a month ago. What okay, wait, here we go.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. D
d d dun dunn.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Don't ever do that again, Cheryl Burt.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Okay, hold on, though, I'm going to say something. The
fashion bad but that was the era. But your hair
is it doesn't bother me. I thought it was so
cool on.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You in movement only.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Next headline Kendrick Wilkinson defense getting high at a Sublime
concert the day Hugh Hefner died. I owe him nothing,
she said. This is from People dot Com. She goes, Look,
at the end of the day, I owe hef nothing.
I'm not going to sit here and pet him. Hugh
Hefner decided to date millions of girls, right, That's not
my responsibility. And whatever happened with him with his relationships,
that was his thing. It's not my responsibility to protect
(33:09):
a man for his life choices. Now, two decades after
she and Hefner first began dating, Wilkinson, who's currently in therapy,
more power to her, has more perspective on this whole thing.
She goes, I get into deep regret afterwards. I got
to the point where I started hating myself and asking
why did I have sex with Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
She says.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hefner was sixty years her senior. I hated my boobs,
my body, my face. I got to the point where
I started hating myself. She was the youngest of the
playboy buddies when she moved into the mansion. What do
you think.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Look, I am a big believer that when you are
a young female in Hollywood, you do a lot of
things to get attention, to have friendships, to have connections,
and just to be accepted. So we both I met
have made those kind of mistakes with men and people
in the world whatever. So I don't think she made
(34:02):
any decisions at that point that were in her brain bad.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Right, But when.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You get to grow up and you get to reflect
and you get to see the kind of person you
are versus who you thought you were when you were
twenty something years old, you're totally different people from age
let's say twenty one to thirty one, right, So I
don't think it's bad for her to kind of come
back and be like that sucked.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So this is the reason why the people are triggered
by it, because like Hally Madison and all of those girls,
they did pay their respects and they you know, basically,
she didn't continue a relationship with these girls after the fact,
but you know what, to each their own. Maybe she's
still going through trauma. Maybe she doesn't remember certain things
like that's what happens when you go through anything traumatic.
You don't necessarily have a timeline in your head. For
(34:50):
me at least, and.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
We all respond very differently and how we need to
handle things to feel healthy and happy and successful moving forward.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
People are saying, like, you should have paid respect to
the man that supported you, that got you into the
you know, entertainment industry. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But maybe she did in her own way, right, I mean,
and it's to say that, like there isn't some things
that are underlining that we don't even know existed. None
of us can judge another person. Yeah, you know, it's
horrible the world we live in that people think that
we can just sit here and dictate how people live
their lives. Like, this is her life, this is her choice.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, maybe she know she's also going through a divorce.
She went through a divorce, she is not currently going
through it. But still it's like there's a lot of
a lot you just don't know her.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Her experience was her experience. It wasn't Holly Madison's. It
was hers. So let her live her life. However the
heck she wants to live it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
My goodness, people, I know, speaking of Kaitlin Bristow, you
know who she is. Yeah, she's a bachelorette. She went
with artam So Caitlin Bristow. You know who Zach Clark is?
Zach Clark, Yeah, yeah, so he's he was a bad
bachelor or was he a contestant? I don't know, test
it okay, So I actually interviewed him on my other podcast,
Burke and the Earth, was a The Gatement or the
(36:06):
one I did with ag years ago. And he is
sober and he has he also spends a lot of
his time building like a I don't know if it's
a sober home, but it's like a community of people
who are trying to get sober. And he's there and
he's been very active with that whole thing. I'm probably
explaining it all wrong anyway. The point is is that
over the New Year, I guess there were pictures like
(36:27):
surrounding the two of them, right, So Caylen had just
been engaged. They just broke that off. I don't know
about just but recent and they were seen getting cozy.
So first she was She denies that this that they're
even involved. Right. This was because she threw a New
Year's Eve party at her house. He was invited. There
was a picture that went around the internet with him
holding her waist when they were counting down, or a
(36:49):
video cut to just recently someone someone's sneaky sy. This
is why you don't go out in public if you
don't want.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
To get cut.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Caitlin and Zach were seen getting cod at a bar,
just like a normal like dive bar, and there was
this like I watched the footage, it was like this
shady esque freaking camera back in the day there's no
camera phones for this reason was so much better. Anyway,
they enjoyed a night out basically for his fortieth birthday,
and they were definitely dancing around very close, hugging each other. Look,
(37:21):
I think first of all, she was really upset by
the way people were attacking her, and she expressed this
on social media when people were like, oh, dare you
you cheated on your whatever his name is Jason or something,
and you know, and then she said no, I did
not cheat. But she also I don't think she ever
denied it. Right, So Tasha and Caitlin both hosted the Bachelorette,
(37:42):
And that doesn't mean that they're friends because a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Of people are like girl code. Girl code.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Look, I believe in it absolutely. Also, you know, we
don't know. Again, we don't know anything, right, Like, look,
maybe they weren't friends, but still do you believe that
there's girl code, like within the coworker group, like.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
For example, will do they right?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I would never date your boyfriend, right, even if we
weren't besties, still we worked together. We were like you know,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think too, like girl code is not just being
like you have to swear off anyone that your friend
is interested in. I think it's about that communication. It's
about the respect to talk to your friend and be like, hey,
I know you like this guy, but I think I'm
liking this person too, Like, just communicate those things. And
we don't know if that has happened, correct, And we
also don't know the extent of why Tasha didn't work out, Like, yeah,
(38:33):
we don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
She moved on already, you know, right, So still the
circle is kind of Look also we do this as
dancers as well, exactly like a lot of these couples
on pro dancers are married to each other. You know,
I never did that. And look, that doesn't mean that
it doesn't happen. Doesn't mean that I'd never hooked up
with anyone either.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's it's a very small pool of people, and you're
around the same people, and you're constantly working, and you
don't have an appual life outside of what you're doing
as work. You have to pick from the.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Pool that you are in, like and Dressa said to me,
she goes, we all are on group text, like we
even if like we don't know each other, Like as
soon as we find out who the Bachelor bachelorete is, like,
you're part of our group chat.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, it's it's it's a legacy. Right, it's kind of
like a sorority or like you know what I mean,
Like it's just easy, it's easier.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you know each other, you know that, like your
criminal court is clear.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah. Right, it's comfortable though, right, It's like it's like
a sense of home without actually going home.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So going back to Caitlin, though, do you think that
what she's doing is like, Look, I don't know if
she ever admitted she didn't admit this to her fans,
but her fans came not her fans, but people just
came at her. I mean she's been very vocal about that,
like bullying within social media. How do you think she
should handle this moving forward?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Honestly, I'm a big believer that if you're happy and
you're doing things respectfully, then that's what you have to
lean into. And like our lives are so that if
you're not doing something or being around the people that
make you happy and being around the people that love
and support you. Then you're just wasting your time.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
So would you believe that she should?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
But do you believe that if she didn't talk to Tasha? Like,
is that breaking girl code? Do you think I would
have talked to my friend? Yeah? But exactly, I mean,
you know that's even if she wasn't your friend, like
a coworker.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yes, you talk to that person. Yeah, okay, you talk
to the person. It's the respectful thing to do.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I agree, I agree, I agree, and I agree. Well,
more power to them. I hope they're happy.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh and I get.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
What I want to ask is that he's sober and
she's I mean, I'm not saying that she's not sober.
She just she drinks, you know, like she has her
own wine line. Do you believe that that works?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Like? You know, I don't know. Like when somebody is
sober and their dating, I.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Can tell from experience, like it's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It can't be easy. But the only thing that I
can remember is when I was partnered with Steve O,
who was sober. He had a very very big trigger
response to anybody drinking or interesting anything in fact, are No,
I'm very serious. You don't drink. I do, Oh you do.
I just don't like the taste of it.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
But you don't like get drink.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You don't drink to get like wasted.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You weren't like or I does that. I mean I have, yeah,
but it's not like but you're not an alcoholic meaning like, oh,
I'm sure if I was his partner, I would have
triggered him much more.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Well. Yeah, and to be fair, I think that's probably
why they put him with me, yes, amongst many other reasons. Right, Yes,
you're right. But like I think we had a rehearsal
studio and it was like also an event space at
the time, just before they built you know, the official studio. Yeah,
and it had parties there all the time. So I
would have to get into the studio like ten minutes
early and hide all the liquor. Oh my god. Yeah,
(41:50):
And then you know, if he would start having like
kind of emotional breakdowns or whatever, like, I would have
to find ways to supplement that. So I can only
imagine that in a romantic relationship like that cannot be easy.
But I respect it for the people who can make
that work. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Speaking of Shannon Doherty, do you were you a nine
on Too and Oh fan?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I so was?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
So basically she had she she has a podcast. I
think it's a podcast and she basically the headline said
Shannon Doherty wish is she'd been sat down by nine
on two and Oh producers in marital amid marital issues
that partly led to her being fired. So Doherty reflects
on her tumultuouses from People dot Com years on the
teen So I used to love her like she was
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one of my favorites on that show. She had co
star Jason Priestley on and she admitted that or he
admitted that he wished that he'd known more about her
personal struggles at the time. So basically, on her podcast,
she opened up about the personal events that contributed to
her behavior. I don't know if you ever heard that,
Like she like.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We just difficult.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yes, yes, And she did Dancing with Stars and I
have to say I love her. I love her like,
I think she awesome. She's just real. She basically admitted
to unprofessional demeanor on set in her final days on Antino,
sharing that it had a lot to do with marital problems.
I didn't realize she was married to Ashley Hamilton, who
had also done Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, so they were married and at that time I
believe Ashley is still sober. He was sober when he
did the show, but he said that. She said that
he was struggling with drug addiction during this whole time.
So during her end of the run of nine in
two zero, and she said that, I was in a
really horrible marriage and there were things that were transpiring
in that marriage that made it really hard for me
to be on time for work. Wait, I hate when
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people are late. I just oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I get late. I get into this panic where I'm
like crawling out of my life.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Some people who don't are not aware of this, right,
some people are, and it kills me. Yeah, And she says,
I know that that became a very big problem for
the rest of you, as it should be. And she said,
though she took full accountability for actions, already confessed she
wished producers had pulled her aside to have an honest conversation,
conversation about her behavior. She said, it wasn't anybody's responsibility
(44:05):
but mine, But I sort of wish I would have
been sat down and sort of looked at and said, listen,
the end result is going to be this. You're going
to get fired and none of us are willing to
put up with it anymore. And I understand that you
have an issue in your personal life, but that also
can't lead into work and you need to get your
shit together. Basically, Brandon, Wow, I just called him his
real name on nine on to ANDOO instead of his sheets.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I just called him.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I am this is the one. Yet we know this.
It's like pretty woman in Nato and not two.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Anything else, I don't know. Wow, Brandon, Okay. Jason Priestley
basically said that he admitted that the events leading to
Doherty's exit was very difficult for him to see unfolding.
Waiting for her to show up on set and the
hard conversations he had with producers Aaron Spelling and Paul
Wagner had been very difficult, but he shared that he
wished Doherty had been more transparent about her struggles. I
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could have hopefully managed it with more compassion, and we
only knew what we knew. Of course, the artiest thing
for me was the show was about Brandon and Brenda,
It's about the Walsh family. Oh my god, I missed
that family and how is that going to impact the
show and how would we find a path to move
forward with the show. So it was incredibly hard for
him and the cat the rest of the cast. What
are your thoughts on this, Like, do you think they
should have pulled her aside and said this to her
(45:17):
at least given her a warning?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Uh? Yeah, that would have been nice. However, I also
know that TV land is very cutthroat, right, you make
one mistake, you're out. It's it's not like.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, but I think like the whole show went downhill
after she left.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I agree with that. They tried really hard to revamp it,
bringing in like Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And Tiffany and Berthason.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah. I just met her the other day. She's so beautiful,
did you She's gorgeousous. We the Kelly.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
God, I love her. She's gorgeous and freaking Is that
are you talking about sab By the Bell?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh my god, Yeah, the Kelly. That hair that was
like the bag.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
There was some drama between I guess there was drama
with her too. On said I don't know. Well, she
was the new kid on the block and beautiful. You know,
I get it exactly. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I the era of TV back then, I do Again,
I said it before. I think women were treated very
different than men. If a man showed up late every day,
like sunglasses on, they'd be like, Oh, you're cool, you
had a night out, you know, But I'm a girl
about it.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's like I used to talking about mental health back then,
either to say this and yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
It wasn't a thing back then. Night It almost was
like a hindrance and it made you look professional and
shameful and all of these things. Thank goodness, now we're
able to say like, hey, I'm depressed or like I
don't feel good about myself right, Like, yeah, everybody has
these thoughts. It makes me sad she went through that,
(46:45):
because I know what that feels like too, about hiding
what's actually going on internally. Yeah, for the sake of
your professional like for.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Your lateness, like you almost have to explain, like you
can't blame it on traffic anymore, Like you kind of
have to explain what's going on. But also there's a
fine line of keeping things personal versus not.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I don't know. It just depends on the set. Like
let me tell you the first few seasons of Dancing
the Stars. I mean, we all party together, but I
was never late going.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
To like the professional side of it. You can't be
late to a job regardless, regardless of what's happening. It's
still not okay. Now. Could she have confided in somebody, probably,
but there probably wasn't a safe space for her to
do so. It makes me sad that she didn't feel
safe to do that because I think nowadays it would
be more understanding.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
And I'm glad that she's talking about it though, I'm
true that helped. What are you doing next? Promote away?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Will ya promote away? Well? Currently, I'm on tour right
now with one of the conventions that you are. Yeah.
So one of the conventions that I'm on it's called
Energy Dance Project, and we go to twenty some odd cities, hotels, yes,
no buses, thank you, She's upgraded that.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
We teach more expensive No, I know, it's such a
dumb idea, but we travel to twenty odd cities, you know,
throughout the year, and we teach kids ages five to
like twenty five and there's like a thousand kids every weekend,
and you know you.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Always post those videos. They're like cheering so loudly. For me,
I get chills. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
And for me just sitting there doing ballroom basics without
a partner. Literally, I thought that this would.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Be like chotch a lot to like, how don't you
wish your girlfriend like stuff like that. It's amazing. I
love it and you just like have such a huge
support system and I'm so more power to you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, it's a great thing. And when we're in LA,
I want you to come and just hang and like
see what it's all about. I think you would love it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, I'm not going to dance one of my solo
routines because I ain't solo dancer over here, I'm not
a solo dancer. I beg to differ, so I can't anyway.
But don't you have a clothing line?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
So I have my dance shoes. So those are released
in December, been sold out since.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Which is why you haven't asked me if I want
any because I'm not dancing. No.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I asked you and you said I don't dance anymore.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I don't thought they were just dance shoes. Why would
I wear dance shoes? So why would I exactly need
dance shoes away? Actually it's my near one of my
near resolutions is learned to flamenco dance. You have Flamenco shoes.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
No, I don't. But girl, I remember when you did
your Argentine tango thing.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That's not flamenco.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I understand, let me finish, okay, But I remember when
you came back to Dancing with the Stars after you
had done that, and how it changed everything about what
you did. So yes, you need to go into the
Flamenco thing because it clearly is a very good thing
for you. You're just You're just that girl like you.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I say emoji in my past life that emoji the emoji.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
And wait did they bottle it after you? Apple? I'm
getting zero dollars, So here's some royalties. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Love you, Lacey, thank you so much for joining us,
and yeah, make sure you guys follow her on Instagram
or wherever you listen to her Instagram.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
What love you, Love you bye.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
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This is Sex Lies and Spray Tands with me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Sex
Lives and spray Tans. All right, So I have a
special guest who's going to be doing headlines and hot
topics with me. But before we do that, I'd like
to cover a headline that is definitely buzzing around and
it's definitely relevant as of now. It's Alison Hulker. She
(00:23):
went on this press tour about her book that just
came out, and she was on Nick Viles podcasts who
were actually having on here I think in the next
week or two, and basically asked her if she would
be open to finding love with a new partner. And
you know, she admitted she has been asked a lot
about that specific question, and Hulker said that before she
(00:46):
could even consider finding love with a new partner, she
had to heal quote. I think the first thing I
had to do for myself this last year a big
thing because it was hard. It was very hard for
me to learn to like myself again, to learn to
love myself. The former Dancing with the Stars pro continued. Then, also,
could I like someone else again? Could I even love
someone else again. This was all from heavy dot com,
(01:10):
and she also noted it's a very complex situation I
found myself in. As much as she loved and still
loves twitch, Hlker recognized, at the end of the day,
I love life. I feel like for me, the kind
of life I like to live, the outlook I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Have on life.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
It took me a long time to accept all of
those things, Hulker noted, in considering what her future looks like.
All of that said, in terms of finding love again,
Holker replied, so why should I even shy away from it?
Am I looking for it? I don't know, She summed
up by sharing, I'm definitely not shying away from it,
but I'm not looking for it. So I don't know
(01:45):
like the exact time or if it's been like a year,
or if it's been less than a year, or it's
been two years. I don't really know their timeline. But look,
it's not the same. But I can only speak for
my own experience. I think I've been I think separate
and divorce now for close to three years, and I
am definitely not looking for it. So I think, to
each their own, I'm pretty sure you know Twitch would
(02:06):
want her to move on, but I think move on
with like obviously whenever she has healed that part of her.
I mean, I don't think you're ever healed. I think
it's to really like yourself and love yourself. It's an
ongoing process and hopefully you are able to meet somebody
who's also on the same journey of self improvement. I
think that Look, Allison is out there right now, and
(02:28):
she's definitely focusing on her career from what I see,
but I think she's on the right track when it
comes to her, you know, mental health. I think it's
very important that you get that intact as well. And
she also has kids, so she has to kind of
you know, I don't know what. I'm not going to
tell her what she has to do, but she has
more than just herself to think about. Put it that way.
(02:49):
So let's introduce our special guests. Back by popular demand, Everyone,
please welcome Lazy Swimmer to the podcast. Aloha Stranger, Helloa,
Where are your lays? Have you gotten laid?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Nah? When you live here, you don't get lais. I
can't think it's a tourist thing.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
So how are you loving a Hawaii Island life?
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Are you kidding? What's not to love? And I know,
isn't that it's real? Well, I sat out in the
sun a little too long yesterday. It looks worse than
it feels. It feels fine, but you know, just gorgeous.
You look beautiful.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I mean really, though, I it's a huge move, like
you're not there one hundred percent of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
No, I can't. I mean with work and travel and
you know, no I can't. But we're trying to be
here at least a week a month at this point.
We meaning my boyfriend, yes, yes, that's a brother. Noo.
No yo, And that's how and that's why I don't
(03:56):
speak Spanish, right, yeah, No, we're here like a month
at this point. Do you just go to us? Are
you kidding? Yes? I want to like just be here
all the time. I want to have like a thousand
rescued bulldogs and just call in a day. That's like
my dream. Where are you? What island?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Not to give us the address or anything, but well
my coordinance.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
No, I'm in Oahu, so Honolulu is our main city here,
but I actually live in the heart of Waikiki. So
if I'm looking out at my lanai, my God, give
me a tour later. I will definitely not while we're recording,
but yes, I will give you the tour when we're
done with this. Yes, but yeah, I am two blocks
(04:36):
from Waikiki. I see the ocean. I have diamond head. Yeah,
it's it's cool.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
I love the word diamond.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
I'm sure you do.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Even if it's ahead, I'll get I'll take all diamond heads.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Yeah, both are great.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
All right, Well, welcome to the headlines and hot topics,
portion of sex, lies and spray dances. There's just all
I do is talk about dancing with the stars. Let's
just get straight into it. Okay, do you know who
Harry Josie is?
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Okay? Will you be mad at me if I said.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
No, I'm not mad at you at all about any
of this. So I'm gonna this is gonna be me
just getting your reaction. I'm going to tell you about it.
And if you don't know somebody, guess what. I don't
know anyone either. So all I know is I know
Harry Jousey. He was on last season. He danced with Brightley.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Oh wait, is that the British guy like the tall kid.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He's Australian. Okay, say the same thing.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
But I didn't. But thank you for the warning. I
mean I was thinking it. Yeah, No, I isn't he
from like Love Island or like one of.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
Those reality on the Netflix show?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:34):
Yeah, yeah, he's the one that actually went pretty far.
He made it almost to the semifinals, and he wasn't
necessarily a natural dancer, right, No, so he just did
a I guess. An interview People dot Com was an exclusive,
Harry Jousey says he got skinny fat from eating so
many snacks on the Dancing with the Star set, So basically,
(05:54):
you know, Harry Jousey can't tame his sweet tooth after
making it to the quarterfinals on the most recent season
of Dancing Jouzy, who's twenty six, he's only twenty six. Well, anyway,
I know he's joining. I mean not in a bad way.
He looks like a man like he's like, yeah, manly
men eating all the sugar. But basically he's saying that,
look I got I think I got fatter during he said,
(06:15):
I think I got fatter during my time on Dancing
with the Stars. I got so skinny fat because on
rehearsal days we just eat. There's so many snacks around.
Don't put food in front of me. Ever, he continues
to describe his experience with the well stocked craft services
on set. I was like, why are there lullies here?
Why is there sugar? Why are their muffins? I don't
need it around me because I'll find any excuse to
(06:35):
number one eat and number two not dance. So I
was just always eating food. What do you think about this? See,
it's like it's I don't when I'm nervous, I don't.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Eat, so you know, Okay, so I I understand, Like
my first ever craft experience was what so you see? Well,
I mean, yeah, well it's Cheryl the craft service lady. Yes, yes,
she's phenomenal. I mean she's an og. She's a gangster
out there. But when I was on so you think
you can dance, which is the same studio that Dancing
(07:06):
with the Stars films at. You know, when you're eighteen,
you're like, all of this is free. So I was
totally doing the thing where I would like bring my
something and I would take it home, so like I'm
a starving dancer, like this is free, let's go totally.
But then when I got onto Dancing with the stars,
Like you know that idea of like keeping your body right.
(07:27):
I almost like shied away from it totally.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
I was a trailer eater. I would just wait till
no one was watching me.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
One hundred percent. Yeah, you should have done that together.
You know, we were more concerned with taking diet fills.
I feel like just too.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
I mean I was playing that shit in my food.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Oh no, it was like clockwork. We we were going
to town. Now we can laugh about it, but it's
very sad, but no, it is true. And like the
craft service is as great as it is. It's not
just for the dancers. It's for the crew, the staff,
it's for everybody. So it's like it's actually better.
Speaker 1 (08:01):
It's only actually the craft service because there isn't I
mean unless he's eating the stale granolas at the dance studio.
But like there isn't really craft service unless it's changed
last season, but there isn't craft service during the rehearsal,
when you need the food the most, there isn't anything
there as much. But like when you are there doing
camera blocking, live show whatever, then they like they make
(08:21):
like yummy fresh peanut butter and jelly sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
They have those smokers. I love that. That's your level
of cooking. Like that's really yummy. It's peanut butter and
jelly sandwiches you buy, Okay, sis, listen, I remember when
she would bring out like Swedish meatballs.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
I wouldn't even go there or I was so ashamed.
I was so scared people were going to be your fat.
Stop eating.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
I was just trying to avoid sitting with people for
too long. So I found comfort in the food. So
I understand.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I mean, I also can't eat when I'm nervous, like
I will literally I have I'll have major gas, like
there's no way.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
I mean, I feel like I respect that. But like
I am all is hungry. I am one of those people.
You put food in front of me, I will eat it,
whether I've already had seven burgers, like I am. I
am a connoisseur of food.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I get like that once a month right before I'm like,
you know, the girl stuff. But like I have to say,
maybe Harry should have danced more if he didn't want
to get skinny fat.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Well, okay, you know, our schedules are crazy. There's really
not time to work out, and I'm sure he's used
to that kind of lifting weights in the gym thing.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
And I mean his partner a lot, she's two pounds.
I know. Riley is literally like this, Okay, let's move on.
Eh So, Jenna and Val Schmerkovski are currently on the
Dancing of the Stars tour. I remember those days, did
you on tour?
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yes, don't remind me. Remember those were the good old days.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Girl.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
We have a funny story about our tour.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
Oh no, probably multiple. But remember when they used to
wine and Dinah's like we would stay at the Rich
just to take a poop press and how they sleep
on buses you know that, right?
Speaker 2 (09:55):
They don't remember pasta station.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
No, do you remember those videos we would you with
Louis on the trail, like Alex was making fun of
Louie like he was like doing these skits. We're doing skits?
Maybe that one? Which one did you join the second one?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
Or third one? Or first or second? Second? Okay?
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Because I yeah, I only did two, so okay. But
do you remember how they the celebs would have their
own tour buses? Oh yeah, oh yeah, it's not like
that anymore.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Lazy, no, I know, And they're not staying at hotels
like we were at the Ritz. We like what we
were also in arena tours, they're doing theaters. It's a
little different now, so yeah, and I mean not saying
that like what they're doing now is not working. It's
just it's a different time. People are not wanting to
spend money on those kinds of tickets anymore, and you know,
everything is accessible. So I do feel like it's just
(10:44):
the era of the world that we're in. We were
in kind of that heyday of touring and traveling and
you can only really see them in person once. You know,
we did not know how to handle all of it. No, no, no,
we were like living our rockstar fantasies on tour, like
we were so stupid, but it was so much fun.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
I mean, I played Spin the Bottle with I'm not
going to say who, but like literally in my room,
like we would do this a nightly.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
We will talk about that later. I remember a certain
sneaking into my cabin when y'all were partying, and I
was like totally apprude. I was like, nah, I'm not
gonna debt, and I was like sleeping in my little
cabin on that bunk. Also tell me later then, like
they tried finagling and I think I punched them in
the stomach and like yeah, they were like try to
(11:29):
get in and get all cute with me. I'm like, ah,
We're not doing this in your coffin. You're like right, no, no, no. Honestly, though,
best sleep I've ever had is in my coffin on
a bus.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
On a serious note, so the Dancing with the Stars pro,
Jenna basically asked fans to respect the family's boundaries in privacy.
I guess something happened where, she said, just something that
happened today, and for the remainder of the tour that
myself and my family are on, I would really love
some respect backed in privacy. When it comes to my son,
Jenna said, today we had a little incident where he
and my nanny were followed onto the elevator of the hotel.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I guess they do.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Stay at hotels, maybe for that one night that we're
staying at. She added that her son Rome and the
nanny were then followed onto the floor that our room
was on. Then the Dancing with the Stars pro ass,
please just respect our privacy. For me, as a mom,
that's really dangerous and I really don't appreciate it. I
love the excitement towards our family, but he's just a baby,
so please respect that. Thank you all in advance for understanding.
(12:28):
I'm happy to be back on the road. I love
you guys. It's been a dream come true to do
this and to do it with my family. But yeah,
just some boundaries would be really, really awesome. What do
you think about this? It's scary. That is scary.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Yeah, I mean, and I think both of us can
understand this. We both have had stalkers. But for me,
I think I still do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
I know right, to be fair, someone sent me a
doggy blanket, but we're not going to go there. It's
so weird pictures of my dog on a blanket and
it wasn't I thought it was my sister, so I
was like, thanks Sis. She's like, I didn't send that
to you. I'm like, hey, b frokay stress response.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Okay, but we'll talk about that later. It's not about me. Yeah.
I feel like the quote of this whole interview is
we'll talk about that later. But no, I mean, Jenna
has every right to protect her child, and I you know,
I don't have kids. I don't want kids. I think
this is one of those reasons, is it's just so
much responsibility and so much stress put on you constantly
(13:24):
for the rest of their lives. Right, she has every
right to protect her kid, and for someone to be
that low and follow an infant somewhere.
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Really, it wasn't even Jenna and what's on Reddit are saying, well,
then don't post so many pictures of your kid on
her kids two different lights.
Speaker 2 (13:43):
She can do whatever she wants, just like we can
all do it. But there are boundaries, and there is
self respect for other human beings out there. And yeah, personally,
like just knowing what it feels like, that uncertainty of
not knowing if you turn a corner, if somebody is there.
It's a very scary feeling. Now imagine that with an infant.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
And her nanny who's not used to probably all of
this attention, right, I mean we shoulder. Now, that's how
they're going to have to live. This tour is, by
the way, sixty three cities. I think it's more than
I think we've I don't know if we've ever. I
think we did fifty eight or something.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was in the fifties.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
Yeah, it's I mean good on that. First of all,
I don't know how they're doing this with a kid.
It's a lot. That must be a lot. And then
they're all sharing a bus, right, so it's not just
their bus.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
Yeah, many blessings.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
But back in our day, we would be I don't
think it would be appropriate because we would be drinking that.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Yeah. I our era was the party era, Like we
were not housing children.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Basically, we were in rockstars. We definitely thought it. Definitely yes. Okay,
so do you follow the Bachelor at all?
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Okay, so that's my guilty pleasure show. Really I've never
seen it? Are you?
Speaker 1 (14:57):
No?
Speaker 2 (14:57):
No? No, no? We need a bachelor a wrett. Can
we do a petition for Sherel?
Speaker 1 (15:04):
I already pitched Love is Blind the celebrity version, and
I would love to do that.
Speaker 2 (15:08):
I am so here for it. I want to be
a cheerleader. I will do it and tell me what
he looks like. Yeah, I'm sure that we can't like
not like I'll be the sneak. I'll be like the snitch.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
But how could event I mean I pitched the president
of Netflix this recently. I said, listen, you have to
do it, and he goes, how would we do it?
I said, well, you have to have rules. You'd get
disqualified if you announced, like who, like what you do
for a living?
Speaker 2 (15:32):
One is a celeb or whatever. Yeah, no, we have
to all be celebrities. Oh see, I think you should
do fifty to fifty, like half of the girls are
half of them are normal the other and then like
see who connects cut me in as a producer. Okay,
I'll get right on that.
Speaker 1 (15:50):
Okay, let's talk about Joey Gratsdy. I'm saying that all wrong.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Howe you say it? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Anyway, we're going to talk first name base only with Joey.
This is headline already sparking dancing with the Stars of
rumors ahead of the Bachelor of premierees. He reveals his
grand plan on live show on Live on Kelly's Live Show.
It is no longer readis in Kelly? Whoa, it's Live
with Kelly. I'm a little old, just aged myself back
twenty thousand years.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (16:16):
So he appeared online with Kelly and Mark, her husband
on Monday, where he was asked if dancing with the
stars was in his grand plan? Hmmm, is this why
he was the Bachelor and now I'm kidding he's only
twenty eight. Wow, he's young. He's already found love. So
he didn't confirm or deny. Basically he said that he
would he like to do it, and he said, well,
(16:38):
if that call comes, I'd be open to it. But
to be honest, I'm trying to do one reality show
at a time.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Okay, totally different things.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Well I okay, So do you believe in the Dancing
with the Stars cursed?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
You know what that is? I mean there's many which
one are you talking about?
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I'm talking about the Bachelor bachel like, So basically what
they're saying with this whole curse is like when the
back her bachelorette comes on, that their relationship ends up
not working because I mean, honestly, it's because there was
no foundation being built. I think for me, when I
had Trista Setter on when this first launch this podcast,
she said, I don't think it's a good idea for
anyone involved to be to go straight from being locked
(17:19):
up with your other one that you whoever you are,
you proposed to, and then go straight into like the
real world and goes straight onto Dancing with Stars. Look,
I kind of agree with her.
Speaker 2 (17:28):
I do too. In fact, I just met Trista like
a year ago at a dance.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Thing that she was at and she oh with her kids.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Yes, she is a phenomenal woman. She's a real one
and yeah, A big fan of hers. I think she's
the og of what that show started out, right, and
it's since changed so much, just like Dancing with the Stars,
everything evolves, right.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Also, the og to get eliminated first, very first celebrity
ever to be eliminated on Dancing with Stars something crazy.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
It's true that, Oh I didn't realize that. Yeah, okay,
But here's the thing. New relationships need time, it needs consistency,
it needs something to build. And I feel like when
you're on a television program, you're already under a microscope,
so you're kind of not being your one hundred percent
authentic self, right, There's no way you can be. You're
(18:17):
you're on alert all the time. So I don't think
they should take these people days after they announce that
these people are together and then put them into our
situation and that you.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Ever see each other, because that's what it is.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
It's seven days a week, sometimes ten hours a day,
if not more, depending on what you've never going on,
and not to mention more times than you know most
you're dancing with a different gender than you and these
people have never had people bumping and grinding on them
like what we do, so it's hard for them to
(18:50):
understand the artistry behind what we're doing. I think that
they see it in more of like, oh, we go
into the club and like, yeah, you know yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
I hate when people compare that. They go, what I
after a couple of drinks, you know, I'm a great dancer.
It's like you guys have zero clue, Like, do some research.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
You know.
Speaker 1 (19:06):
Charity was on last season she was the Bachelorette. It
actually worked, I mean like she was able to still
but also she was paired with Artem they're both in
happy relationship exactly that. I think it also depends on
like the person you're paired with.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
No, it is situational, right, Like I think if they
take him and they put him with one of the young,
hot single girls, like there is going to be that
temptation there for him.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, why do you think that bachelorettes win and bachelor's don't.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
I mean, I think a lot of the bachelorettes came
from like cheer or they have dance background, where generally
most of the bachelors don't have that background.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, so you're right, Okay, Britt and Daniel. Do you
know who those two are?
Speaker 2 (19:48):
I do?
Speaker 1 (19:49):
How cute they're engaged, and I just, first of all,
I love that Britt even before they were partners, like,
she took it upon herself to learn sign and I
love that she was very proactive with that whole thing.
And what's so crazy? I feel bad for the interpreter though,
because you're like, oh.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Did he lose his job?
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm just wondering. That's not what the story is, but
I just wanted to I mean, it's just an ongoing question.
I mean, I'm sure they're still friends, but like you know,
he's no longer needed. Right Anyway, She was doing an
interview about her upcoming nuptials and basically they she said
that we're so excited because we're so interested in how
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this event will be. Half of the people will be
hearing and then the other half will be deaf. So
it's going to be this emerge of different cultures and
different perspectives. We will have interpreters available at our wedding oh,
maybe he didn't lose a job as well, because it's
a one off. It's a one off. Yeah, wan and done.
She said, we're gonna have interpreters, and you know, a
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lot of the people in her life, you know, they
don't have anyone that's deaf in their family, so ASL
is going to be completely new to my family. But
a non negotiable for me is that and an interpreter
does not interpret Daniel's vows. I love that so much.
It's really important for me to not hear another voice
in my aura. I just people better shut up then,
because you know, at my wedding I heard like the
most random things ever. But maybe I wasn't present. That's
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another story. It's really important for me not to hear
another voice. I just really want that to just come
directly through me. Now, how we will make that accessible
for all of our hearing guests, we're still trying to
figure out. I don't think they should make it accessible,
just like they can always like put it in the
thing in the like schedule, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Like you write it out, like have it on Instagram,
cart works too, Like it's their day. Let them do
it however they want to do it. It's not for the
people sitting there. It is for them only, Like.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
So hard though, that is so hard, lazy, let me
tell you it was for everybody else.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
For my wedding, well half of your wedding with celebrities,
so let's start there.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, I mean maybe, but also I think I was
just so I had like laser tunnel vision. I was like,
nothing's gonna I was Ryan stoning Hershey kisses. Okay, like
Hershey Kisses called why I was. I had Mindy Weiss, Okay,
the top of the top wedding planner. I was micromanaging
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her because clearly there was so many red flags. I
didn't want to face it, okay, And so like I
was in general, I was like a bridedilla because I
was so running away from what the there was like
actually hand that I should have really looked at.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
Well, yeah, so deep, that's life should have what a No,
I mean, here's the thing, Like, you know, I'm not married,
I've never been married. Would I sure, it's really unimportant
to me, but I do know the importance that it
holds with a lot of people. And when you have
a story like theirs, I do think it's important to
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celebrate it and to keep people in a loop of
what you guys are doing. It's a way to tie
people in and draw them into your guys's world. But
at the end of the day, it's up to them. Yeah, right, Like,
if they want to know what is being said.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Ask And that's great that they're already having interpreters, Like
they didn't have to do that either.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
I think that's really sweet. Actually I didn't even know
that was happening. And yeah, that's super respectful. I think
that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (23:17):
I love them together. I think they're so I'm so
happy for Brett, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:20):
And I don't know Britt. I've never met her, obviously.
We know so many mutual friends and colleagues and things
like that, but not one person ever has a negative
thing to say about that girl. So, you know, I'm
just happy that people are happy and they found each
other like that, to me is just super endearing and
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it's inspiring, and I hope that more people can find
true relationships like that.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
Yeah, you know, like through dancing stars. I mean, isn't
that insane? Though, like it is, there are a few.
The next headline is about yours truly. Cheryl Burke says,
leaving Dancing with the Stars was scary and admits she's
(24:08):
this is weird. I'm talking about myself a third person.
I know you should do it. You should read it, Okay.
Speaker 2 (24:13):
The headline, Cheryl Burke says leaving Dancing with the Stars
was scary and admits she still has a lot of
mixed emotions. Burke, who hosts the podcast Sex Flies and
Spray Tans, spoke to the magazine for One Last Thing.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Spoke to them last year. By the way, this was
last year, but it just came out though, so they
just released it. So back then I was living in
fear a little bit as to like, did I make
the worst decision of my life?
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Of course?
Speaker 1 (24:41):
And do I still release emotions? I have to say
my therapist just said this to me too recently that like,
you know, in a way, like I normally would be
running away from all of this, Like as far as
feelings go about specifically, let's say the show, I wouldn't
be watching the show. I would definitely not talk about it.
And the fact that I've been having to as part
of my new job. Actually, in the long run, I
think has been it has been hard, but it's also
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been very therapeutic.
Speaker 2 (25:04):
Well, that was the first thing that you told me.
Remember when I had reservations about doing your podcast for
the first time. Yes, And we had this text message
conversation back and forth of like what I felt comfortable with,
what I didn't feel comfortable with. And it's like, all
of our journeys are very personal and they're all very different,
and you, out of all of I would say the
(25:26):
female pros especially, you have kind of hit everything that
Dancing with the Stars offers. The highs, the lows, the ins,
the outs, the relationships, the injuries, the everything. You've You've
literally experienced it all, which is why I think you're
so well suited for doing something like this. But to me,
(25:48):
I felt the same things that you felt, and I
felt them earlier than you did. I got the boot,
you know, a long time before you did.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
But there is no rest the boot. Oh well, that's kidding.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (26:04):
I just want to make that clear, bas you're a brat.
I booted myself out.
Speaker 2 (26:09):
I do feel like I don't know. My biggest fear
was the uncertainty of what's next. And they don't give you,
you know, ideas of how to create a career after TV,
and I really feel like somebody should write a manual
or something, because that exit, like the day that you leave,
you're like, oh, a weight is lifted off my shoulders,
(26:30):
and then all of a sudden, it's like dead silence
and you go into this really weird depression. I don't
know if you did too, but I really did where
I deleted everybody's phone numbers out of my phone from
the show. I didn't want to see them on Instagram,
so I blocked them. I changed my personal phone number. Like,
I went through this really really weird system, and it
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almost felt like I was trying to get rid of
a life that I would really proud of for a
really long time because it no longer existed.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
You wanted to delete it all, like you just were
so hurt by Yeah, every Yeah I am, Yeah, but.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I do believe like in doing stuff like what you're doing.
You told me that this show would be more like therapy,
and I trusted you with that. The second I did it,
it did feel very liberating, but it wasn't until I
got all the remarks and the comments and the messages
from people supporting me and you know, just kind of
(27:29):
being like just with me, right, and that's what you
said would happen, and it did. And obviously I got
some backlash. You know, we're here in public giving our opinions.
People aren't going to agree with us all the time,
and that's fine. But it was really nice for me
to speak my truth because I never had before. So
I think that this is a great thing that you're doing.
(27:50):
And I know that you were scared. I get it.
I was there, and I'm happy you have found this
path of healing and helping people and helping yourself because
ultimately that's what matters.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So I'm so happy you feel like that. Thank you,
by the way, And I think, yeah, there is a
sense of okay, well, this is my truth and whether
or not people agree is not our business and it's
not your business, and to be honest, it's not their
business to comment. But whatever, it is, what it is.
But for the most part, I still get, you know,
messages about your interview. And first of all, like the
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more you share, it's not about ooh tea, you know,
like give me the tea. No, it's literally about okay, well,
I have all of these weird emotions and yet they're
still living in my body. And even if it was
Trista Sutter, she's still we could still talk for hours
because she was I mean, she's the one with the
least experience as far as longevity goes. She had so
(28:45):
much to talk about, and she never thought about certain
things that we would like bounce off of each other.
And I just think it's beautiful, and I think it
probably was a lot. I think you were over. I
think I mean I was crying when I saw these
comments about you crying from like just thank you for
hearing us, you know, and for hearing you, especially because
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the last thing you want to feel is like, well,
first of all, for me at least, when all of
that shit was happening, I was like I was gaslighting
myself and I was like, did this not happen or whatever?
All this crap that, you know, the self talk. But wow,
it is liberating, right like it is. It just is
it is.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
And I think the climate that we live in, like,
especially as women, I feel like our opinions, people are
just chalking it up to be like a dramatic intermunication, right,
and you know, unfortunately in TV, I do feel like
women are still on the back end of everything, and
(29:42):
I feel like the treatment we get is so not
the same treatment that the men get in TV. Yeah,
and you know, I don't know if that will ever change.
I sure hope it does, but it is damaging. And
even if someone was misquoted in a magazine for trashing
you or whatever, it still hurts, right, And we're human.
(30:04):
We're allowed to feel these things, and we're allowed to
revisit and talk about it. Doesn't mean that we have
an opinion about those people currently in that state. It
just means like, at that point in time, like that
hurt me.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
Right, and I can talk about it. Yes, it's my life.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I could talk about it.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
It's also feeling when you say like you can't well
you shouldn't feel like that, Like you actually can't dictate
to anybody how they feel. That is uncontrollable. Like it's
a feeling. Yes, that's the and that's what people don't understand.
It's like, get over it already, excuse me. Like I
could talk about something that may have happened to me
twenty five years ago, and if I had never talked
about it, I can talk about whatever I want to
(30:41):
talk about. Okay, if don't ever say get over to anybody.
It's just that's that's what hurts the most. It's like
as if we're being paranoid or sess like, no, no, it's
an experience that happened. Have we've forgiven the people involved? Yes,
that doesn't mean that it didn't happen, right.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
And we can't just pretend it doesn't.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Happen right Like most you can forgive, but.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
You don't have to forget, right. Amen? So hellolujah, that's yeah.
But wait, there is something in your right up here
that I want to touch on. Sure, Oh shit, go ahead.
What is this about your haircut? Wait?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Haircut?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Okay, your last fashion disaster? Are you on the article?
You read the article? I'm reading a bullet point? Okay,
it says says last fashion disaster my first red carpet
photo I had no makeup on and my little dumb
and dumber haircut and seashells glued on my bootleg. Jas.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
I have to share. I have to show you a picture,
please do.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Because I need to see what the heck this is?
Because when I read this, I was dying.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
Wait have you never seen? First of all, you know,
my dumber hair. You saw the dumb and dumber.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
But when I first moved here brand at the time.
Speaker 1 (31:48):
Okay, but it wasn't when I first in my very
first red carpet. Okay, there was no brand, no one
knew me, and also I had no friends. Clearly, whoever
let me do this first of all? Not only okay, wait,
hold on, good, I'm going go goating. I'm going to
get a images and I'm going to the very first picture.
You're gonna die.
Speaker 2 (32:07):
Well, my first red carpet is not much better, babe.
I had a side bank that was like a helmet.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
So I just had a sad side bank till like
a month ago. What okay, wait, here we go.
Speaker 2 (32:17):
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god. D
d d dun dunn.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
Don't ever do that again, Cheryl Burt.
Speaker 2 (32:27):
Okay, hold on, though, I'm going to say something. The
fashion bad but that was the era. But your hair
is it doesn't bother me. I thought it was so
cool on.
Speaker 1 (32:36):
You in movement only.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
Nah.
Speaker 1 (32:47):
Next headline Kendrick Wilkinson defense getting high at a Sublime
concert the day Hugh Hefner died. I owe him nothing,
she said. This is from People dot Com. She goes, Look,
at the end of the day, I owe hef nothing.
I'm not going to sit here and pet him. Hugh
Hefner decided to date millions of girls, right, That's not
my responsibility. And whatever happened with him with his relationships,
that was his thing. It's not my responsibility to protect
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a man for his life choices. Now, two decades after
she and Hefner first began dating, Wilkinson, who's currently in therapy,
more power to her, has more perspective on this whole thing.
She goes, I get into deep regret afterwards. I got
to the point where I started hating myself and asking
why did I have sex with Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
She says.
Speaker 1 (33:27):
Hefner was sixty years her senior. I hated my boobs,
my body, my face. I got to the point where
I started hating myself. She was the youngest of the
playboy buddies when she moved into the mansion. What do
you think.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
Look, I am a big believer that when you are
a young female in Hollywood, you do a lot of
things to get attention, to have friendships, to have connections,
and just to be accepted. So we both I met
have made those kind of mistakes with men and people
in the world whatever. So I don't think she made
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any decisions at that point that were in her brain bad.
Speaker 1 (34:07):
Right, But when.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
You get to grow up and you get to reflect
and you get to see the kind of person you
are versus who you thought you were when you were
twenty something years old, you're totally different people from age
let's say twenty one to thirty one, right, So I
don't think it's bad for her to kind of come
back and be like that sucked.
Speaker 1 (34:29):
So this is the reason why the people are triggered
by it, because like Hally Madison and all of those girls,
they did pay their respects and they you know, basically,
she didn't continue a relationship with these girls after the fact,
but you know what, to each their own. Maybe she's
still going through trauma. Maybe she doesn't remember certain things
like that's what happens when you go through anything traumatic.
You don't necessarily have a timeline in your head. For
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me at least, and.
Speaker 2 (34:51):
We all respond very differently and how we need to
handle things to feel healthy and happy and successful moving forward.
Speaker 1 (35:00):
People are saying, like, you should have paid respect to
the man that supported you, that got you into the
you know, entertainment industry. What do you think about that?
Speaker 2 (35:06):
But maybe she did in her own way, right, I mean,
and it's to say that, like there isn't some things
that are underlining that we don't even know existed. None
of us can judge another person. Yeah, you know, it's
horrible the world we live in that people think that
we can just sit here and dictate how people live
their lives. Like, this is her life, this is her choice.
Speaker 1 (35:28):
Yeah, maybe she know she's also going through a divorce.
She went through a divorce, she is not currently going
through it. But still it's like there's a lot of
a lot you just don't know her.
Speaker 2 (35:36):
Her experience was her experience. It wasn't Holly Madison's. It
was hers. So let her live her life. However the
heck she wants to live it.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
My goodness, people, I know, speaking of Kaitlin Bristow, you
know who she is. Yeah, she's a bachelorette. She went
with artam So Caitlin Bristow. You know who Zach Clark is?
Zach Clark, Yeah, yeah, so he's he was a bad
bachelor or was he a contestant? I don't know, test
it okay, So I actually interviewed him on my other podcast,
Burke and the Earth, was a The Gatement or the
(36:06):
one I did with ag years ago. And he is
sober and he has he also spends a lot of
his time building like a I don't know if it's
a sober home, but it's like a community of people
who are trying to get sober. And he's there and
he's been very active with that whole thing. I'm probably
explaining it all wrong anyway. The point is is that
over the New Year, I guess there were pictures like
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surrounding the two of them, right, So Caylen had just
been engaged. They just broke that off. I don't know
about just but recent and they were seen getting cozy.
So first she was She denies that this that they're
even involved. Right. This was because she threw a New
Year's Eve party at her house. He was invited. There
was a picture that went around the internet with him
holding her waist when they were counting down, or a
(36:49):
video cut to just recently someone someone's sneaky sy. This
is why you don't go out in public if you
don't want.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
To get cut.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Caitlin and Zach were seen getting cod at a bar,
just like a normal like dive bar, and there was
this like I watched the footage, it was like this
shady esque freaking camera back in the day there's no
camera phones for this reason was so much better. Anyway,
they enjoyed a night out basically for his fortieth birthday,
and they were definitely dancing around very close, hugging each other. Look,
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I think first of all, she was really upset by
the way people were attacking her, and she expressed this
on social media when people were like, oh, dare you
you cheated on your whatever his name is Jason or something,
and you know, and then she said no, I did
not cheat. But she also I don't think she ever
denied it. Right, So Tasha and Caitlin both hosted the Bachelorette,
(37:42):
And that doesn't mean that they're friends because a lot.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
Of people are like girl code. Girl code.
Speaker 1 (37:46):
Look, I believe in it absolutely. Also, you know, we
don't know. Again, we don't know anything, right, Like, look,
maybe they weren't friends, but still do you believe that
there's girl code, like within the coworker group, like.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
For example, will do they right?
Speaker 1 (38:01):
I would never date your boyfriend, right, even if we
weren't besties, still we worked together. We were like you know,
you know, and.
Speaker 2 (38:08):
I think too, like girl code is not just being
like you have to swear off anyone that your friend
is interested in. I think it's about that communication. It's
about the respect to talk to your friend and be like, hey,
I know you like this guy, but I think I'm
liking this person too, Like, just communicate those things. And
we don't know if that has happened, correct, And we
also don't know the extent of why Tasha didn't work out, Like, yeah,
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we don't know.
Speaker 1 (38:34):
She moved on already, you know, right, So still the
circle is kind of Look also we do this as
dancers as well, exactly like a lot of these couples
on pro dancers are married to each other. You know,
I never did that. And look, that doesn't mean that
it doesn't happen. Doesn't mean that I'd never hooked up
with anyone either.
Speaker 2 (38:53):
It's it's a very small pool of people, and you're
around the same people, and you're constantly working, and you
don't have an appual life outside of what you're doing
as work. You have to pick from the.
Speaker 1 (39:04):
Pool that you are in, like and Dressa said to me,
she goes, we all are on group text, like we
even if like we don't know each other, Like as
soon as we find out who the Bachelor bachelorete is, like,
you're part of our group chat.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
Yeah, it's it's it's a legacy. Right, it's kind of
like a sorority or like you know what I mean,
Like it's just easy, it's easier.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
Yeah, you know each other, you know that, like your
criminal court is clear.
Speaker 2 (39:25):
Yeah. Right, it's comfortable though, right, It's like it's like
a sense of home without actually going home.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
So going back to Caitlin, though, do you think that
what she's doing is like, Look, I don't know if
she ever admitted she didn't admit this to her fans,
but her fans came not her fans, but people just
came at her. I mean she's been very vocal about that,
like bullying within social media. How do you think she
should handle this moving forward?
Speaker 2 (39:50):
Honestly, I'm a big believer that if you're happy and
you're doing things respectfully, then that's what you have to
lean into. And like our lives are so that if
you're not doing something or being around the people that
make you happy and being around the people that love
and support you. Then you're just wasting your time.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
So would you believe that she should?
Speaker 2 (40:11):
We don't know.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
But do you believe that if she didn't talk to Tasha? Like,
is that breaking girl code? Do you think I would
have talked to my friend? Yeah? But exactly, I mean,
you know that's even if she wasn't your friend, like
a coworker.
Speaker 2 (40:23):
Yes, you talk to that person. Yeah, okay, you talk
to the person. It's the respectful thing to do.
Speaker 1 (40:28):
I agree, I agree, I agree, and I agree. Well,
more power to them. I hope they're happy.
Speaker 2 (40:33):
Oh and I get.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
What I want to ask is that he's sober and
she's I mean, I'm not saying that she's not sober.
She just she drinks, you know, like she has her
own wine line. Do you believe that that works?
Speaker 2 (40:41):
Like? You know, I don't know. Like when somebody is
sober and their dating, I.
Speaker 1 (40:50):
Can tell from experience, like it's not easy. It's not easy.
Speaker 2 (40:54):
It can't be easy. But the only thing that I
can remember is when I was partnered with Steve O,
who was sober. He had a very very big trigger
response to anybody drinking or interesting anything in fact, are No,
I'm very serious. You don't drink. I do, Oh you do.
I just don't like the taste of it.
Speaker 1 (41:14):
But you don't like get drink.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
You don't drink to get like wasted.
Speaker 1 (41:17):
You weren't like or I does that. I mean I have, yeah,
but it's not like but you're not an alcoholic meaning like, oh,
I'm sure if I was his partner, I would have
triggered him much more.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
Well. Yeah, and to be fair, I think that's probably
why they put him with me, yes, amongst many other reasons. Right, Yes,
you're right. But like I think we had a rehearsal
studio and it was like also an event space at
the time, just before they built you know, the official studio. Yeah,
and it had parties there all the time. So I
would have to get into the studio like ten minutes
early and hide all the liquor. Oh my god. Yeah,
(41:50):
And then you know, if he would start having like
kind of emotional breakdowns or whatever, like, I would have
to find ways to supplement that. So I can only
imagine that in a romantic relationship like that cannot be easy.
But I respect it for the people who can make
that work. I think that's amazing.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
Speaking of Shannon Doherty, do you were you a nine
on Too and Oh fan?
Speaker 2 (42:12):
I so was?
Speaker 1 (42:13):
So basically she had she she has a podcast. I
think it's a podcast and she basically the headline said
Shannon Doherty wish is she'd been sat down by nine
on two and Oh producers in marital amid marital issues
that partly led to her being fired. So Doherty reflects
on her tumultuouses from People dot Com years on the
teen So I used to love her like she was
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one of my favorites on that show. She had co
star Jason Priestley on and she admitted that or he
admitted that he wished that he'd known more about her
personal struggles at the time. So basically, on her podcast,
she opened up about the personal events that contributed to
her behavior. I don't know if you ever heard that,
Like she like.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
We just difficult.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
Yes, yes, And she did Dancing with Stars and I
have to say I love her. I love her like,
I think she awesome. She's just real. She basically admitted
to unprofessional demeanor on set in her final days on Antino,
sharing that it had a lot to do with marital problems.
I didn't realize she was married to Ashley Hamilton, who
had also done Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (43:12):
I didn't know that either.
Speaker 1 (43:14):
Yeah, so they were married and at that time I
believe Ashley is still sober. He was sober when he
did the show, but he said that. She said that
he was struggling with drug addiction during this whole time.
So during her end of the run of nine in
two zero, and she said that, I was in a
really horrible marriage and there were things that were transpiring
in that marriage that made it really hard for me
to be on time for work. Wait, I hate when
(43:35):
people are late. I just oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:40):
I get late. I get into this panic where I'm
like crawling out of my life.
Speaker 1 (43:44):
Some people who don't are not aware of this, right,
some people are, and it kills me. Yeah, And she says,
I know that that became a very big problem for
the rest of you, as it should be. And she said,
though she took full accountability for actions, already confessed she
wished producers had pulled her aside to have an honest conversation,
conversation about her behavior. She said, it wasn't anybody's responsibility
(44:05):
but mine, But I sort of wish I would have
been sat down and sort of looked at and said, listen,
the end result is going to be this. You're going
to get fired and none of us are willing to
put up with it anymore. And I understand that you
have an issue in your personal life, but that also
can't lead into work and you need to get your
shit together. Basically, Brandon, Wow, I just called him his
real name on nine on to ANDOO instead of his sheets.
Speaker 2 (44:27):
I just called him.
Speaker 1 (44:29):
I am this is the one. Yet we know this.
It's like pretty woman in Nato and not two.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
That's it. That's it.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Anything else, I don't know. Wow, Brandon, Okay. Jason Priestley
basically said that he admitted that the events leading to
Doherty's exit was very difficult for him to see unfolding.
Waiting for her to show up on set and the
hard conversations he had with producers Aaron Spelling and Paul
Wagner had been very difficult, but he shared that he
wished Doherty had been more transparent about her struggles. I
(44:55):
could have hopefully managed it with more compassion, and we
only knew what we knew. Of course, the artiest thing
for me was the show was about Brandon and Brenda,
It's about the Walsh family. Oh my god, I missed
that family and how is that going to impact the
show and how would we find a path to move
forward with the show. So it was incredibly hard for
him and the cat the rest of the cast. What
are your thoughts on this, Like, do you think they
should have pulled her aside and said this to her
(45:17):
at least given her a warning?
Speaker 2 (45:19):
Uh? Yeah, that would have been nice. However, I also
know that TV land is very cutthroat, right, you make
one mistake, you're out. It's it's not like.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Yeah, but I think like the whole show went downhill
after she left.
Speaker 2 (45:31):
I agree with that. They tried really hard to revamp it,
bringing in like Tiffany.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
And Tiffany and Berthason.
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah. I just met her the other day. She's so beautiful,
did you She's gorgeousous. We the Kelly.
Speaker 1 (45:41):
God, I love her. She's gorgeous and freaking Is that
are you talking about sab By the Bell?
Speaker 2 (45:46):
Oh my god, Yeah, the Kelly. That hair that was
like the bag.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
There was some drama between I guess there was drama
with her too. On said I don't know. Well, she
was the new kid on the block and beautiful. You know,
I get it exactly. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (46:02):
I the era of TV back then, I do Again,
I said it before. I think women were treated very
different than men. If a man showed up late every day,
like sunglasses on, they'd be like, Oh, you're cool, you
had a night out, you know, But I'm a girl
about it.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
It's like I used to talking about mental health back then,
either to say this and yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:24):
It wasn't a thing back then. Night It almost was
like a hindrance and it made you look professional and
shameful and all of these things. Thank goodness, now we're
able to say like, hey, I'm depressed or like I
don't feel good about myself right, Like, yeah, everybody has
these thoughts. It makes me sad she went through that,
(46:45):
because I know what that feels like too, about hiding
what's actually going on internally. Yeah, for the sake of
your professional like for.
Speaker 1 (46:52):
Your lateness, like you almost have to explain, like you
can't blame it on traffic anymore, Like you kind of
have to explain what's going on. But also there's a
fine line of keeping things personal versus not.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (47:05):
I don't know. It just depends on the set. Like
let me tell you the first few seasons of Dancing
the Stars. I mean, we all party together, but I
was never late going.
Speaker 2 (47:11):
To like the professional side of it. You can't be
late to a job regardless, regardless of what's happening. It's
still not okay. Now. Could she have confided in somebody, probably,
but there probably wasn't a safe space for her to
do so. It makes me sad that she didn't feel
safe to do that because I think nowadays it would
be more understanding.
Speaker 1 (47:32):
And I'm glad that she's talking about it though, I'm
true that helped. What are you doing next? Promote away?
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Will ya promote away? Well? Currently, I'm on tour right
now with one of the conventions that you are. Yeah.
So one of the conventions that I'm on it's called
Energy Dance Project, and we go to twenty some odd cities, hotels, yes,
no buses, thank you, She's upgraded that.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
You know.
Speaker 2 (48:00):
We teach more expensive No, I know, it's such a
dumb idea, but we travel to twenty odd cities, you know,
throughout the year, and we teach kids ages five to
like twenty five and there's like a thousand kids every weekend,
and you know you.
Speaker 1 (48:17):
Always post those videos. They're like cheering so loudly. For me,
I get chills. It's so beautiful.
Speaker 2 (48:23):
And for me just sitting there doing ballroom basics without
a partner. Literally, I thought that this would.
Speaker 1 (48:28):
Be like chotch a lot to like, how don't you
wish your girlfriend like stuff like that. It's amazing. I
love it and you just like have such a huge
support system and I'm so more power to you.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Yeah, it's a great thing. And when we're in LA,
I want you to come and just hang and like
see what it's all about. I think you would love it.
Speaker 1 (48:44):
Yes, I'm not going to dance one of my solo
routines because I ain't solo dancer over here, I'm not
a solo dancer. I beg to differ, so I can't anyway.
But don't you have a clothing line?
Speaker 2 (48:56):
So I have my dance shoes. So those are released
in December, been sold out since.
Speaker 1 (49:01):
Which is why you haven't asked me if I want
any because I'm not dancing. No.
Speaker 2 (49:05):
I asked you and you said I don't dance anymore.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
I don't thought they were just dance shoes. Why would
I wear dance shoes? So why would I exactly need
dance shoes away? Actually it's my near one of my
near resolutions is learned to flamenco dance. You have Flamenco shoes.
Speaker 2 (49:19):
No, I don't. But girl, I remember when you did
your Argentine tango thing.
Speaker 1 (49:24):
That's not flamenco.
Speaker 2 (49:25):
I understand, let me finish, okay, But I remember when
you came back to Dancing with the Stars after you
had done that, and how it changed everything about what
you did. So yes, you need to go into the
Flamenco thing because it clearly is a very good thing
for you. You're just You're just that girl like you.
Speaker 1 (49:43):
I say emoji in my past life that emoji the emoji.
Speaker 2 (49:47):
And wait did they bottle it after you? Apple? I'm
getting zero dollars, So here's some royalties. Let's go.
Speaker 1 (49:55):
Love you, Lacey, thank you so much for joining us,
and yeah, make sure you guys follow her on Instagram
or wherever you listen to her Instagram.
Speaker 2 (50:03):
What love you, Love you bye.
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