October 18, 2024 • 42 mins
Did the judges score Brooks and Gleb too high? Is Anna Delvey really invited from the finale? How many times did you cry rewatching Derek Hough and Hayley Erbert’s dance this week. There are too many headlines to keep up with this week but Kristyn Burtt rejoins Cheryl to wade through all of it. Do they agree with fans thinking that Julianne and Alfonso should switch roles on the dance floor? They also take a minute to correct their predictions as the shows contestants make big moves and who do they think may be heading home sooner than later. All this and more on today’s episode.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Sex, Lies and spray Tands with Me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to your
favorite podcast that gives you all things Dancing with the Stars,
current headlines, and hot topics. My co host today has
become a staple on this show and really just needs
no introduction. Please, Welcome to the show. Kristen Bert Well,
(00:23):
welcome back from Hurricane Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, I was in Milton, I evacuated, I am safe,
and I am happily back in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thank god. I DMed you because I was nervous. I
saw you traveling a lot and I was like, what
is she? I didn't realize he had family there, So
I'm happy. Everyone's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I helped my mom evacuate and then get her on
a plane to Portugal because she had a girl's trip
to Portugal, and I was like, you have to get
out today. You're not going to get out otherwise.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh my go. You're such a good daughter. Do a
best during this whole you know, mother nature, just you know,
letting it all out. Did you get a chance to
watch the show? I did. I did.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I had to catch up because most of the time
it was local news that was preempting the show, so
it was obviously more important.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yes, I'm sure I wonder if the votes maybe, I
mean they didn't brag about the votes this time around,
so maybe the votes weren't like at fifteen million, considering
obviously more important things.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, that whole Southeast area a lot of places still
do not have power, so I'm sure not a priority. Yeah,
they are still struggling to get basic services back, including
internet as well.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, my heart goes out to everyone. I hope that
everything comes back to normal, hopefully sooner rather than later. Okay,
so thoughts on, let's just talk about this last elimination
with Gleb and Brooks. Was this shocking to you? It
wasn't shocking to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Not at all. I think I'm sure you also read
this like sort of like read the room, read the
temperature on social media. While there were some people that
were enjoying the show man's I would say a majority
of the fans were not enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They felt we not call this out or what like
it was. I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Down our throats.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, they got tattooesday. I mean, like it was just
all over. I'm sure it was fine for like the
first day and then it's just like okay, and then
I can see it they suffered in their rehearsal, like it.
I just posted a taktalk about this. How you know,
it's cute to have your sisters come on, but they
were so off sync. And they weren't only off sync,
(02:27):
but it was just too long, Like they didn't have
to go down onto the floor. And if there's no
pro next to you, like or next to the group
at least screaming at them or counting out loud, it
is bound to just all go wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, someone had turned before everyone else.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It was. It really threw me off.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And then I started watching the sisters instead of watching Brooks,
and I think that that's really where it started to go,
you know, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Their their actual content was not It was like a
week one dance for me, especially coming off that chatcha
from the previous week.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know what bums me out is I feel like
Brooks had the capability to really learn to dance because
she's she's gorgeous limbs, and she's long and you know,
tall on everything, and I feel like the what was
happening externally on the show instead of like internally in
the ballroom, just overshadowed even maybe their rehearsals and things
like that. And I felt like little things that I
(03:19):
think Leb would normally pick up with a contestant to
refine didn't happen this time around.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, you know, I actually believe that because of her
maybe her fan base isn't as strong as everyone else's
in general. Forget like GLEB for a second. I also
believe that they actually lasted longer because of their showmance. Yeah.
I think that if she were with someone else, I
(03:45):
don't know if she would have been there that long.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's also a possibility. Yeah, absolutely, and I think it was.
I think I was frustrated too. They are so smoking hot,
both of them, and they're hot together. But that's why
I wanted them to do the opposite of what they are,
because we know that what they are, so I want
silly and like I saw feminine pretty like just a
real like romantic dance like even that. I don't know,
(04:10):
I just I got frustrated with them.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He was really upset. They seemed shell shocked honestly when
their names were called and as Brooke said, you know,
she thinks she manifested it. I don't think it was
that deep, to be quite honest. But also, you know,
people are writing articles like he said, I love you again.
When we say I love you as especially on that show,
(04:34):
we mean like it's basically the equivalent of asking how
are you doing? Like when we say I love you
to people, it really isn't. I mean, yes, I understand
that they are like continuing their relationship, and I think
she's moving currently as we speak to La from New York.
But they seemed really bummed and shocked.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, And I'm bummed for them that they were disappointed,
of course, because that's you know, it's the part of
the show. No one wants to get quoted off and
things like that. I think that they really weren't reading
the room. Maybe they weren't reading the social comments and
had I mean, he thought, He's like I thought we
could have won.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Not, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I mean, at least he's confident. I mean, hey, brought
up to that to Shipp and Dale's that really, you know,
got them going so okay. I was a hot mess,
just crying right here in this room behind my laptop
during dedication night, especially for two numbers, one with a
competitive couple Danny and Whitney, and also obviously Derek and Haley.
(05:34):
Were you moved by any performances?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah? Can we start with Derek and Haley because I
just you know, I saw her perform live in Los Angeles,
which was also after her surgery, and just seeing her
dance in a theater was was moving. But I feel
like this went even like a level deeper of just
you know, they've had time and space to really process
(05:58):
what happened, you know, because the starting to you know,
anytime you lose some wonder, you have a big milestone
that that maybe is on the sad spot. You start
marking like we're reaching the year like we got married,
and then all of a sudden, we're reaching that month
of like when the event happened. And there is a process,
like if you're ever in therapy, you know that you
have to like kind of go through the morning of
(06:18):
like who you guys were then and who you are now.
Because they are both a changed couple and they're going
to be stronger and more united, and I think that
this is incredible for them. But of course you never
want your loved one to go through any pain or
suffering or my goodness, a near death experience.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, you know, look, I did reach out to Derek,
and I just wanted to and I mentioned this in
my recap, but I just wanted to send my prayers
in love. And it wasn't easy for anyone. I think
that just knows those two people because it's like it.
And when he said, you know, the doctors came up
to them after they saw their performance, when they performed
(06:56):
back in Washington, when she was feeling better or when
she was healing, the doctors were saying, like reiterating how
much of a miracle this is. And I did read
somewhere one of the headlines. I don't think that Haley
saw the package until right before she dan. This is
why we tell our partners not to watch the package.
But in a way, I have to say, if I'm
(07:17):
just talking about their movement and their quality of movement,
it was so raw and I've never seen Derek in
a way and I say this with all due respect,
but like take the back seat and just like let
her shine.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know, he did that with a show when I
saw it too, which I think is great and I
think I think it was a moment for him to
realize like, of course he knew how important she was,
but really, really, this is their future together. They want
to build a family, they want to you know, they
have goals and hopes and dreams, and that almost was
taken away from them. And I think we often see
(07:52):
Derek so strong and so confident and so happy and goofy,
and to see him really like get on his knees
and say like, please, please don't leave me. God, you
know it's it's it's yeah, you feel it, you feel
it deep inside. And I think that's why we all,
I think that's why we're also moved by it, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
What I mean, No, I hear you. I was a
hot mess. I mean I just was like I was
dying over here. Like it was so it was so
real and it was very human, you know, what they
were doing in their movement. And one of the headlines
because I worry about the future as well because his
you know, tours and here's another one coming up. They're
not easy and they're quite intense physically. One of the headlines,
(08:35):
says Derek. Coff and Haley share how she stays safe
on stage. Since health scare, we're very cautious, they said. Basically,
they're saying that, you know, look moving forward. She said
that I'm very in tune with my body as a dancer,
and I'm always like I can tell when something's off
and I'll be like, oh, that doesn't feel quite right.
I shouldn't be doing this move, or I shouldn't be
(08:56):
doing this number. I feel like I'm being smart in
that way of just being like, I'm going to listen
to myself. She said, all the dancers and crew, we
all have these little badges that say if there's any
signs of this, this, this, or that, we need to
find medical We need to find a medical team, just
so we're aware. That's so great because it is high intent,
like it's intense these three perform.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, and I know that on that second half of
the tour that they did after Haley surgery, like Alexis
war understudied Haley and would step in anytime she was
just not feeling right or she know like I can
only do two numbers tonight, I don't want to do
four numbers, that type of thing. So yeah, I think
that that's really smart for them to have a plan
in place.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I actually they've talked about this. What is the cause? Like,
I guess there is no cause of it, right, like
it just happens or was it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think they're saving it for the documentary. Did you
see that they're doing a documentary on health scare? Yeah,
so they're shopping it around right now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was that in the press?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, it was Deadline had Oh yeah, So I think, well,
we'll probably hear more. I'm assuming we're also going to
hear from her medical team and sort of what that was, like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, amen or amen? I forgot is. I don't know
how to pronounce it. But he's a very well known doctor,
neurologist and psychologists. I believe it. I don't know, but
he's all over my Instagram because that's my that's my uh,
you know, stats on my Instagram. What's it called? What
is it called? What? I'm trying to find that? Uh?
What is your when you have when you look at
(10:22):
like certain subjects, then it becomes your algorithm? Yes, correct,
thank you, It's part of my algorithm. And I just
see him always talking and I know Derek and Haley
went to him during their healthcare So it's going to
be really fascinating because I think it's important. I know
we did have a neurologist on a few months ago,
and I guess she couldn't say what there isn't one
(10:45):
cause of what you know, if that happens to anybody,
it's like, who knows. It could have been head trauma
that she didn't even know about from when she was
dancing or not dancing. Could have been years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Wow, and then all of a sudden it just suddenly
hits you later even.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She was having seizures backstage? Are you kidding? Like, did
Derek stop the show?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm well, from what I understand, they finished the show,
but finished it still, you finished the show because there
was only like one number left, So I think that
or something like that. They were at the tail end
of the show. But from what I do understand, it
was the quick thinking of some of the people backstage
recognizing what that was, what was happening in that moment,
getting that immediate medical attention, and also the fortunate thing
(11:27):
of where that show was that night. They were in Washington,
d C. Which has incredible medical teams there. Had they
been in a smaller city, maybe in Texas, you know,
way outside of Houston or way outside of Dallas, it
would have probably been a different situation. So you know
when you just say like everything was aligning and the
universe was you know, thinking about this like it was
(11:48):
one of those situations there's so many things aligned to you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Because the timing like you have to rush to the
this is no like, that's why I'm shocked that they
didn't just stop the show. But no one knew him.
But when you're having a seizure, you would think like, okay,
we got to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Anything to do that. Like my father had a mild stroke,
and even just like with a mild stroke, getting to
the hospital in a matter of minutes is crucial towards
your recovery.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah. So, speaking of the huff Family, Mark Ballas was
so refreshing to see him as a judge, and I
know a lot of people feel the same. I think
that what he was saying it was so condensed, right,
and yet it made sense, like there was not one
thing that he said that I didn't agree with, and
(12:35):
his visuals were perfect obviously, I'm pretty sure you know
he saw dress rehearsal and everyone, like, you know, I
think it's important that actually and I love when I
love the fact that he showed the other judges in
a way that you can actually give some constructive criticism
and positive feedback in less than ten fifteen seconds. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Agree, and I think that ninety nine point nine percent
I'm going to say probably one hundred percent of the
audience also agreed with that assessment in that he was
able to instead of just telling people what they did
on the floor, like you did great. I love this.
It was lovely. It was I see the improvement over
last week, and I think I have the perfect note
(13:18):
for you to take forward with you next week. You know,
and I'm paraphrasing in all of this, but he gave
like the quick compliment along with the morsel you're going
to take with you into the rehearsal room for next week.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think what he did that was so brilliant was
that he he made it pedestrian, meaning like when we
because we have technical obviously terms for everything now, when
he was talking about a frame, he was like, you
gotta just envision a Martini glass. And you know, I
saw corking in the audience, and I'm sure you know
they helped Mark as well, like because you know, you're
talking to world champions, and he's the kid of these
(13:52):
very well respected ballroom used to be competitors now like
worldwide just known because Shirley also has a huge influence
in just in England and worldwide at this point and
they are just so this is the thing that Kirky.
I remember taking lessons from him when I was a
teenager and he would say these visuals to me and
(14:12):
I was like, oh, so he'd be like, Okay, when
you do drive kicks, you got to like, okay, here's
a cone kick the cone like kick at the same
spot at the top of the cone, you know, because
it just showed me that I needed to kick towards
the floor, not outwards, you know, to create a rebound rebound.
And so it was just so great to see that
because people at home could relate to it. It wasn't
(14:33):
just like Lenin in a way sometimes got too technical
to where like maybe people may not have understood that
ahead maybe yeah, yeah, And I think this is why
people loved Mark and he did an outstanding job. And
Derek also is petitioning as well for him to be
a permanent Jodge.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Because we don't have that len anymore on the panel,
and Len did an No one's ever going to replace him,
mind you, but we would like to like the audience.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You can hear them. They want to know why certain
scores are being given right, and they want to know
what they can do to improve, and so do the couples.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
For God's sakes, they want to be able to walk
away from something absolutely right. I know what to do
next week.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, So, speaking on this whole type of subject, I
guess when it comes to Mark judging, people are saying
that they would want they want Julianne Will. Some say
like are just so rude and saying we need to
replace her as a host. I don't believe that. I
think she's doing an amazing job. But people are suggesting,
(15:32):
fans are that she switches with Alfonso.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Why, Okay, I'm gonna tell you what, because remember the
season that Alfonso came in and Tyro was still there.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ty had was great up there, though, and he was back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was struggling though. He would struggle with the cards.
He would start looking down and start and he did
not do that one season, right, He only did that
one season and then Tyro went out, and then he
went in front, and I was like, I think that's
where Alfonso's meant to be. I think what people don't
understand is live TV is so hard and the interviewing
part is really hard, and interviewing is not necessarily asking questions.
(16:08):
It's actually like listening. So you have to have your
first question going. And maybe she's thinking, I've got a
better question, but it is you're juggling like three things
at once while you're on live TV, trying to maintain
your time. She is doing really well, and I thought
she was doing well. Mean I actually agree.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I actually agree with their suggestions because when you're talking
live TV and off the cuff, and I wish in
a way that I would have seen Tom in that
position as well, because it's all about listening and trying
not to be distracted by And this is why Tom
never wore his ear piece, because he couldn't do his
job with He would always take it out. He would
put it in just to make him happy happy. But
(16:47):
what are they going to do when he takes it
out during you know, the live show. Nothing? So I
don't know. I think she is doing a great job,
don't get me wrong, but I actually would be interested
to see and giving Alfonso so another chance at that because,
mind you, his chemistry with Tyro was way different than
with Julianne.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I love I do love Alfonso and Julianne together.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yes, No, I definitely do.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would still keep elfonseo wary is. And you know
what I would do with Julianne. I would love to
get my hands on her and just do like a
quick coaching lesson on what she needs to do to
just feel like a little bit more confident in that.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think that she needs to trust what she's feeling
in the moment because she knows what it's like to
be a pro. She understands the dance language. Obviously, she
understands this show. And I know that someone speaking in
her ear but I think she needs to like go
ahead and ask the question that she really wants versus
what they're telling her.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So just take her earpiece out, then take her.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Rear piece out, because I think she's got it. I
just think that it's feeling grounded and rooted and confident
in what she needs to do.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And yeah, and also like, mind you, I know that
this happens when they're actually dancing Live. It's very rare
that the person up there in the sky box has
the time to actually look at the dance because she
is being talked to that during that whole time. I
remember that with like other co hosts, So it's not
easy to react, I guess live when you know you're
(18:12):
being talked to basically all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, people who are hard on Aaron Andrews when she
was in that role, and I'm like, honestly, to me,
as someone who does her role, I do Live TV,
She's some one of the best out there. She can
do football, she can do entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Aaron was great.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Sharon was amazing, and when people would criticize her, I'm like,
oh no, you don't even understand. She makes it look
so easy.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
People criticize her because she's a strong woman and in
society still, which is so sad, but they you know,
a lot of people don't appreciate that. So a badass.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I fucking love her. She's great. That's speaking of badasses,
Let's talk about Alona mar She's amazing. Like, I okay,
so I'm changing my whole prediction of just letting you know,
but like this final is going to be really hard
to get into. However, I mean I told, I mean,
I swear and other than the first time I about Danny,
which I was kind of scared he was gonna just
(19:02):
no one would know him. But now I think he's
a finalist for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What a breakthrough he had this week. Danny was unbelievable
and his homework. Did I have him in my final
I feel like I did.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No way, There's no way you did.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I had.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I had when I was like I need so did
I I'm I'm well. I actually after dancing to Taylor Swift,
how smart are they? Like? That's why they went last? No,
they went last because the production put them last because
Swifties are no joke. There's just no joke.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
They're smart. Yeah, I mean obviously when we did the
Taylor Swift night too, that was like the highest rated
episode of the season.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I'm telling you she's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Will she be a finalist? I don't know. But after
those fucking sorry I keep scoring, after those posit dobly
knee walks. That was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
She I had chills.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I think like she just needs to refine her
movement a little bit, like sometimes she throws it away
a little bit or doesn't complete the movement. But I
think if like Sasha starts working on those little details,
she's going to have that breakthrough that that Danny had
this week. I love that, like Whitney was able to
like yet and you know it was done yet they
they got right in there with Danny emotionally and it
(20:12):
really it really made a big impact.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And that positive doubly though, thank god it did, because
that week before it was a hot mess and I
think it was his jacket that was restricting him his movement.
But Okay, going back to Yolona, I love that she
went into wardrobe and was like, I want to be
as naked as I can possibly be. She's not wearing
fish this woman like And I have to tell you,
they're pretty strict on the show when it comes to wearing,
(20:35):
Like if they see anything during dress rehearsal, this is
why we're fully dressed for dreshearsal. They want to see
if there's any thing that shows that none of us
tube or something I groube cellulite, like honestly, and sometimes
they'll come to your trailer and be like you got
to put these fishnets on. You know, it's happened to me,
and it's just the way it is, like I wouldn't
want to be I wouldn't want my cellulite to show either,
(20:55):
so they're just protecting us. And I just love how
she was so like her body was so beautiful. She
just looked gorgeous and she owned it. Like I believe
that she really felt like herself for once during.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This so beautiful. She looks beautiful, she felt beautiful. I
love her connection with Alan. I feel like Alan is
really in her corner. Yeah yeah, I mean you could
see it when she was tiery. He was tiery, and
he's not manufacturing tears. He is literally like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I am definitely not.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I want this for you, And that's what I feel.
The one thing about Alona is and that's why I
connected with her back in the Tokyo Olympics, and like
she just is genuinely herself and she's likable and lovable
and I do want to see her all the way
to that and vulnerable is the vulnerable yeah this and
the way her teammates we were bawling their eyes out
(21:47):
because you know, and listen, she is a breakout star
from that team, and they could feel jealous. That could
have been she has women. Yeah, could have been an outcome.
But guess what doesn't feel like any of that is happening.
It feels like she's like, this is my team. We
did this together. I want to hear I'm dedicating this
to you.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, she's not putting on like a front like this
is who she is. And I this is what I
said when I saw her when after that her jive
and you know there was it was really emotional. Not
last week of the week before. This is what I
hope I was going to see from Brooks during Dedication night.
And I think again, like Kristin Cavaleri, who got eliminated
during Most Memorable Week three with Mark ballas her story
(22:25):
was about you know, her most memorable year was about
her graduating from high school and everyone else had such
tragic stories. Now, mind you, the executives are very much
involved when it comes to this in particular, and Melissa
Gilbert when I interviewed her, mentioned it as well that
like she couldn't talk about her back injury because someone
else had an injury, and it was like, I really
(22:48):
don't believe that that should be a thing. When you
have something that you want, like your actual contestants to
talk about that's genuine to them on most memorable or
dedication night, you gotta just let two injuries happened, so
what like and so they also because.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Then I'm faking like what my most memorable year is
or what my who I'm thanking too?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's thank you crazy just because someone else called it
out first, Like that's ridiculous. And also, and this is
why I believe and I can almost tell that they
went up to GLEB because they do push. They don't
want everything to be so depressing. Okay, they want like
the saucas in there and all of it. But like,
at the end of the day, this is what you've
decided to make a theme night, right, So you have
(23:30):
to make it authentic to the couple, regardless of what
it is. And I believe there was some songs being
danced to during dedication night that I was not connecting to,
and I have a feeling it wasn't necessarily their first choice.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I didn't feel like Dwight and Danny's song.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, that was so not okay. If I were so
felt bad for my partner, I mean, I would have
straight up said I love you so much, but like,
this can't happen. We can't do it, like and it's
one of Danny's great dances is the Ramba. You could
tell she was laughing as she was dancing because she couldn't.
It doesn't make you want to do a figure eight, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Because the song felt really juvenile, and of course it
was you're dedicating it to your kids.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like it was him singing. It's just I think they're
going to have to step it up if they don't
want to go home. I think he is, but his
personality is he's not going home charming.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think he's I think he's getting close. I do so,
I do.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean he had the lowest score.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think that there's some social media rules.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
When I started, when I posted something I might talk
about him, people went after me. So you know when
people go after you, right that people are like behind
this couple.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Interesting see and I'm seeing the opposite, which is kind
of curious.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So we'll see they're like, oh my god. They were
like because I said, I said, why didn't he rehearse
like no one And then it was like this whole
personal matter that people seemed to whoever said that, or
a few people that came at me, they must be
stalking him, because it's like I didn't know none of
I don't know anything, just to be clear, unless it's
in the package. I don't know about Riley's ankle. I
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don't know about anything anything anything unless they show this
in the package. I don't stalk people on Snapchat. I
don't even have Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Have Snapchat either, But yeah, I think, but I do
feel like I need to see more colors of his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Dance Lauren rehearsal. Actually, I know that he.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Is like a smiley, fun guy, and I don't feel
like I'm getting anything else from that. And I think
that that's and that was the same thing with Brooks,
Like I know you're super hot and sexy. Now I
want to see something else.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But what's yeah, and I agree with you? And what's
also like when I say that it doesn't make you
want to do a figure eight music, I can't say
it enough. It is vital to the person choreographing and
just to the performance, because like when they were talking
about his cucarachas in the rumba he then did, but
it was because this music didn't make him want to
do it like that, like it's very right, Like who
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wants to grind and do that?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like that's just not with that song, which was.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It was cute anyway. So supposedly Anna Delvey is shut
out of Dancing with the Stars' finale. No invite for
the scammer social life. They just don't want the drama.
This is from Radar. I don't believe this, not me either.
It's in their contract. By the way, they do have
to come back, right And.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't believe for one bit that that she that
the show doesn't want her.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They do want her now, well they cast her again
for an All Stars No, probably not, but like they are,
they have to come back honestly. Okay, So people seem
to be rejoicing about uh sad Brooks and club. And
I also believe this. The scores were too high. I
know that they must know the votes and maybe this
(26:55):
is my conspiracy theory, Like I think sometimes the executives
are like, you can just score them whatever, because at
the end of the day they're going home regardless.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh I think that. I think I think that about
all judging panels. When you know there's certain ways you
can use a phrasing, even just of a word, like
if you're here next week. Things like that that the
influence and sway people's votes.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know, but they already saw the votes from the
previous week.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I yeah, they knew, But I'm talking about the judges
even just say like little subtle things that I always go,
oh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, like when I got eliminated, we were saying the
judges during commercial break were basically overly hugging us and
kissing us and telling us how great of a job
we were doing before we danced ourselsa, so I knew
we were going home.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, you're like, this is it.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I was like, why are you like as if I said,
as if we died, Like why are you being so
overly affectionate? But they felt so bad, That's why they
were pissed. Emma. What happened to Emma?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
She injured her ankle in like snap her. What's It's
not a break or anything. I believe it's a sprain
that she just needs to rest. And obviously she has
the tour coming up, so that's gonna be you know,
resting that ahead of the tour and making sure she's
feeling one. It's just a sprain, an it's I think
it's a pretty bad sprain from what I understand if.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You're in the hospital. It was that she didn't tear
her ACL. I don't think so, because she would need surgery.
If you tear your ACL, you're probably gonna need surgery.
Does she not get surgery? Okay? Good?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, good to know it's just very swollen right now?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well yeah, I mean also, like I'm sure that sucks
for her because she's had a short season. But you know,
even I think people don't understand this, Like people even
the pros that do get eliminated. You know, it's a
full time job still though you're not getting paid as
much for sure, but like they expect you to do everything,
like all those little like bumpers that you see. I mean,
(28:50):
I know I did a lot of them when Sam
got eliminated as well with Pasha. They take time, you know,
and it's not you still have to go to camera blocking,
it's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So yeah, we wish her well. I hope the recovery
is quick and I hope she feel strong against soon
because you know, when you come off of an injury.
It takes a while to feel confident on that ankle.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, this is it. Dancers lives are dancer's life is
not fun sometimes it's really it's all dependent on your body.
So I wish your love. But what do you think
of the Troop?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I love the Troop this year. I really feel like
they're very excited to be there, Like I kind of
feel their energy off of the screen, and I think
that that's been a nice addition since we didn't have
them last year. So I feel like it's nice to
have them back. I feel like they add an element.
It's a good transition thing to have. I know the
audience likes it too. And another way because sometimes they
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will pull Troop members, you know, a couple of seasons
down the line, and you know, elevate them to pro.
So I think it's a great way for the audience
to also get to know these people. I think that
they need two more people, so they'd have six. They
have four four, But like so, but add too much
at another couple, Yeah, I think that would just make
it just look fuller in case of ending injuries, and
(30:09):
also if the some of the pros may not want
to like let's say they get eliminated like Leb and
he may just not want to week off.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You know. At least they have dancers, So I don't know. Yeah,
I just think that the peering sometimes, like I I
do love I'm sorry, I forgot it. Roman He's great, Yes,
Like I could see him as a prone a couple
of years for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He came off of So you think you can dance
like right into this? So this is good for him?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
What's his personality like? You know?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't The show was filmed in Atlanta this year
versus Los Angeles, so I don't know his personality off.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Of Did they show him though on So you think
you can dance? Like? What was he like there?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He didn't last as long as he probably should have,
so and we didn't get to see the colors of
the contestants fully their personalities as much unless they made
it all the way to the end because it was
a weird format this year.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is it coming back?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't think so. The new format that they did
just really didn't work. I'm like, the old format is
what people want to see. They liked the classic.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, you can't don't fix what's not broken.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Why they do that?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So I don't know why either. Did he kind of
remind you of Max a little bit? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I think so? And you know, he and Max obviously
knew each other, because I believe that from me, I
really noted with them. Yeah, I was surprised when Roman
was on Troop this year. I was like, oh, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Did you hear Max's interview on a podcast about a
lot of things?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yes? How did you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well? You know I did talk about it with Michael
when he was on last week. I was hurt by
what he said, to be quite honest, and I was
confused a little bit, as I am sometimes in general.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But I'll say, from my opinion, I think it's it
was an odd or out of pocket comment because he
also comments on the show all of the time, whether
it's on social media or he does a YouTube video.
So if you're saying for you to move on, why
is me moving on?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But like, why move on? Why aren't we capitalizing on exactly?
Why the show? You know what I'm saying, like, why
would you exactly? Ever?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That was his criticism, and I would say, if we
look at what's happening with all these old scripted shows
like a lot of former cast members are doing podcasts
about their time on a show, whether it's like called
rewatches rewatches, like why can't that exists? I think that's
wonderful and I love getting the insight we're not going
(32:36):
to get, Like I can talk all I want about
Dancing with the Stars, but my experience is not deep
like your experience.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Right, And also like same thing with the recaps, like
I have as much time as I want to talk
about each couple, what as in comparison to the judges
they have fifteen seconds? Like I can at least try
and help people understand what so and so said or whatever.
But I'm also an expert in ballroom dancing, like why
wouldn't I talk about it? But it's not that I
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truly believe the reason why he's upset is because of
most of the people who have been on this podcast
that has worked with Max, whether that's someone from behind
the scenes or some of his partners. Ultimately, unfortunately, their
experience wasn't necessarily a positive one, and I think that
is why he's attacking me so well.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And I think your podcast, which some people maybe not
understand that this show listened Dancing with the Stars brings
lots of wonderful things to the table. It brings us
like celebrity and joy and happiness, and there's so much
noise in this world and get to see dancing and
it's great. You can focus for two hours, but understand
that it's not a perfect show and things could always
(33:45):
be better. And while some people's experience and they'll come
back and visit every single year, not everyone had a
great experience on the show, and those two things can
co exist.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Thank you. Yeah, anyway, it's a shame, but it is
what it is. Let's talk about gen Tran and how
so sad So I love being able to see. Also,
I think she's starting to come out of her shell
and show a vulnerable side. She basically said it in
her package during dedication night that she felt unlovable and
she suffered through depression, and it just it really like,
(34:17):
I don't know, I felt like I could really relate
to her. I don't know if it's because we both
come from an Asian background, but like you know, she
was saying that her parents it was a tumultuous type
of environment that she was living in and witnessing her parents'
fight and seeing cop cars outside their home, like that
definitely stays in your body until you actually are able
(34:39):
to grieve it out, really and so that was really
serious and I think that was a memorable package for me.
I have to say, you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Know, she's so interesting to me because I see her
on social media. She's delightful on social media, and she's
so confident, and I love how she's constantly like, you know,
ribbing Sasha a little bit, which is great. But then
it's interesting like sometimes I see in the dance floor
and I'm like, ah, she's not feeling it's confident. And
I was like and I was like, she's so strong
(35:09):
and confident outside of all of this. But it's I
think it's like that that battle she's had when when
you're little, it's like, oh, I'm just going to be
really tough and everyone's going to think I'm fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
It's a defense. Mechanism is a defense. Now, yeah, I
have the same thing what I appreciate. And I didn't
know this until she says she was a or a pianist,
like professionally at one point or something like that. I
was like, Oh, she's a hard worker, Like there's a
silly side to her, but she is like that is
this is her life right now, and I don't think
it's been necessarily only because my mom made me play
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the piano and I know how hard it is, like
you have to practice, practice, practice, and so she's definitely disciplined.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think for sure, which I'm sure for Sasha is
fantastic because she's probably dying to put in the work,
really wants to do a good job. Yeah, it looks
like she's having fun too. I think she's having fun
with this experience.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah. I mean going back to Sasha and like, I
think what he's done. You know, the judges have said
this twice to him, basically without saying it. They've said,
simplify your choreography a little bit, because he has put
there is a lot Now. Is it some of the
best work that he's done. Yes, I believe that, but
there is a Now it's kind of like find those
(36:19):
moments of stillness because they have such beautiful chemistry. Like
their Beginnie Waltz was so good, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's beautiful to like watch on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So again, like I feel like she's catching up to him,
like constantly catching up to him. Sometimes at that moment.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Of stillness, just to like take that breath. I bet
it would be exquisite.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I can't wait they do the rumba. Oh yeah, but
I hope they don't do cartwheels.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
He loves gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
He should do circus with the stars. I think there was.
There was Antonio Sabatto Junior won it. It was circus
something with I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Was circus with this anyway, it used to do a
circus of the stars, but I feel like that was
like a nineteen eighty nine something or other.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, maybe, okay, let's end this story or end this
episode with Zendia. I know this is kind of an
old headline, but we never talked about it last week.
But Zendaiya basically this is the headline can't watch herself
on Dancing with the Stars as it was too stressful.
She opened up, not on this podcast, unfortunately, but we
tried to get her on, but uh basically said that
(37:27):
this whole process for her. She goes, I haven't watched
the show since I was on. I didn't really watch
it before I was on. She said, I also think
it was a very stressful experience for me. I don't
think I'm going to be watching this anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean, I think it explains that the show is stressful.
I mean, especially when you make it to those those
final weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Especially when you're good like Zendia.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
She was so good. She's an incredibly hard worker. She's
an incredibly smart young woman, a talented young woman.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And just well right who's like no joke in a
way too, but he's the best. But like, if you
give him the best, he's gonna push you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's gonna push you. And I think that you know,
she has been at the show before too, and everyone
in my like because like she's she came to visit
a couple times, like maybe season twenty and route people
and people like she's seen the show again, and I
was like, maybe she forgot that God stalkers, you know,
they're like she is in season twenty audience.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I mean, this is coming from her mouth. I mean,
I have to say, I'm getting a lot of shit
for my recaps, and I just wanted to just say
something because I believe that, first of all, there's no
need to waste your time attacking me or trying to
put me up against say Riley, for example, because that's
what it is like she hates Riley. She's jealous of Riley.
(38:46):
They're okay. So I don't hate her. I don't know her,
like we don't really know each other. I know her
older sister. But I am not jealous of Riley. I
am actually really trying to give constructive feedback. And I
really believe that I am. I'm not attacking anybody by
any means, Like I'm not going after something like because
I'm very sensitive to that. When I did Dance Moms,
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you know, I was dealing with teenagers who were being
attacked and not getting constructive criticism from their former coach.
And it's something that I've also dealt with for my teachers,
and I know that's the lasting effect on people. And
I'll never forget. When I started, there were message boards
and it was really difficult for me to push through.
So I am very cautious with what comes out of
(39:29):
my mouth. And I just think, look, you guys don't
have to listen to my podcasts at all, you know,
but let's just refrain from the negativity and trying to
like put women against women because that's not the case
by any means.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, and we all know if Riley is a superstar.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I mean it's a superstar, but it's also there's a
room for improvement with everybody. Yeah, and it's all even
with Jenna, like everybody, and.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You know, it kind of reminds me of like when
Derek was kind of waiting, like back back mirror balls
and that kind of era, like six of them exactly,
and the criticism from people on the other side that
didn't want him to win again. You know, Oh, he
always gets the easy contestant.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I think they called him the Golden Kid or the
Golden boy. Yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
But it used to be like, you know, the Huffs.
It was like the huffs and Ballast versus the fam,
which is all the Schmerkovski's and oh and then the
fan bases and then they would fight.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I remember when we came back. I remember like They're
back and it was a cover of US Weekly. It
was like, this is where I got this title with
this podcast because the cover was like drama blooh blood.
It was like three words. Anyway, it was similar to
this podcast name without the spright hands. But it was me,
Derek and Max making our comebacks. We both came back
at the same season. Do you remember that gosh, what
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season was that I danced with Brian Locktey. I believe
when I remember, I had just come back. I took
a couple of years off Derek as well, and then
we had that like you know, Argentine Tango opening or
it was like pitting us all three against us.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I love it. That's twenty sixteen if I'm correct, because
Ryan Lockdy was at the Reo Olympics.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, thank you. You have anything else
to add?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh no, I just want to say one thing about
Zendea just because we kind of like want you know.
It kind of goes back to when thinking about like
Sindia saying like, oh, it's so stressful. It kind of
goes back to your charity interview saying like, hey, why
isn't there a mental health care professional on set just
helping people out? Just throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Again, honestly, it just doesn't hurt, Like why not?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's helpful. I think it'd be really helpful for people
to be able to talk through some things.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And if God, and this is what I think too,
like half of these people wouldn't come on the podcast
and talk about how stressful it was if there was one. Yeah,
I agree with you anyway, that's what runding me. I'm
god be going on forever this show, so hopefully they
finally wake.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Up one of these days.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
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I'll be sitting down with my former partner, Cody Rigsby.
Until next time.
This is Sex, Lies and spray Tands with Me Cheryl
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current headlines, and hot topics. My co host today has
become a staple on this show and really just needs
no introduction. Please, Welcome to the show. Kristen Bert Well,
(00:23):
welcome back from Hurricane Florida.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Yes, I was in Milton, I evacuated, I am safe,
and I am happily back in Los Angeles.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
Thank god. I DMed you because I was nervous. I
saw you traveling a lot and I was like, what
is she? I didn't realize he had family there, So
I'm happy. Everyone's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
I helped my mom evacuate and then get her on
a plane to Portugal because she had a girl's trip
to Portugal, and I was like, you have to get
out today. You're not going to get out otherwise.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Oh my go. You're such a good daughter. Do a
best during this whole you know, mother nature, just you know,
letting it all out. Did you get a chance to
watch the show? I did. I did.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
I had to catch up because most of the time
it was local news that was preempting the show, so
it was obviously more important.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
Yes, I'm sure I wonder if the votes maybe, I
mean they didn't brag about the votes this time around,
so maybe the votes weren't like at fifteen million, considering
obviously more important things.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, that whole Southeast area a lot of places still
do not have power, so I'm sure not a priority. Yeah,
they are still struggling to get basic services back, including
internet as well.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Well, my heart goes out to everyone. I hope that
everything comes back to normal, hopefully sooner rather than later. Okay,
so thoughts on, let's just talk about this last elimination
with Gleb and Brooks. Was this shocking to you? It
wasn't shocking to me whatsoever.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Not at all. I think I'm sure you also read
this like sort of like read the room, read the
temperature on social media. While there were some people that
were enjoying the show man's I would say a majority
of the fans were not enjoying that.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
They felt we not call this out or what like
it was. I mean, it's it's.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Down our throats.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, they got tattooesday. I mean, like it was just
all over. I'm sure it was fine for like the
first day and then it's just like okay, and then
I can see it they suffered in their rehearsal, like it.
I just posted a taktalk about this. How you know,
it's cute to have your sisters come on, but they
were so off sync. And they weren't only off sync,
(02:27):
but it was just too long, Like they didn't have
to go down onto the floor. And if there's no
pro next to you, like or next to the group
at least screaming at them or counting out loud, it
is bound to just all go wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah, someone had turned before everyone else.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
It was. It really threw me off.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
And then I started watching the sisters instead of watching Brooks,
and I think that that's really where it started to go,
you know, and then.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
Their their actual content was not It was like a
week one dance for me, especially coming off that chatcha
from the previous week.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
You know what bums me out is I feel like
Brooks had the capability to really learn to dance because
she's she's gorgeous limbs, and she's long and you know,
tall on everything, and I feel like the what was
happening externally on the show instead of like internally in
the ballroom, just overshadowed even maybe their rehearsals and things
like that. And I felt like little things that I
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think Leb would normally pick up with a contestant to
refine didn't happen this time around.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Well, you know, I actually believe that because of her
maybe her fan base isn't as strong as everyone else's
in general. Forget like GLEB for a second. I also
believe that they actually lasted longer because of their showmance. Yeah.
I think that if she were with someone else, I
(03:45):
don't know if she would have been there that long.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
That's also a possibility. Yeah, absolutely, and I think it was.
I think I was frustrated too. They are so smoking hot,
both of them, and they're hot together. But that's why
I wanted them to do the opposite of what they are,
because we know that what they are, so I want
silly and like I saw feminine pretty like just a
real like romantic dance like even that. I don't know,
(04:10):
I just I got frustrated with them.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
He was really upset. They seemed shell shocked honestly when
their names were called and as Brooke said, you know,
she thinks she manifested it. I don't think it was
that deep, to be quite honest. But also, you know,
people are writing articles like he said, I love you again.
When we say I love you as especially on that show,
(04:34):
we mean like it's basically the equivalent of asking how
are you doing? Like when we say I love you
to people, it really isn't. I mean, yes, I understand
that they are like continuing their relationship, and I think
she's moving currently as we speak to La from New York.
But they seemed really bummed and shocked.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, And I'm bummed for them that they were disappointed,
of course, because that's you know, it's the part of
the show. No one wants to get quoted off and
things like that. I think that they really weren't reading
the room. Maybe they weren't reading the social comments and
had I mean, he thought, He's like I thought we
could have won.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
I can't believe.
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Not, definitely not.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
I mean, at least he's confident. I mean, hey, brought
up to that to Shipp and Dale's that really, you know,
got them going so okay. I was a hot mess,
just crying right here in this room behind my laptop
during dedication night, especially for two numbers, one with a
competitive couple Danny and Whitney, and also obviously Derek and Haley.
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Were you moved by any performances?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Yeah? Can we start with Derek and Haley because I
just you know, I saw her perform live in Los Angeles,
which was also after her surgery, and just seeing her
dance in a theater was was moving. But I feel
like this went even like a level deeper of just
you know, they've had time and space to really process
(05:58):
what happened, you know, because the starting to you know,
anytime you lose some wonder, you have a big milestone
that that maybe is on the sad spot. You start
marking like we're reaching the year like we got married,
and then all of a sudden, we're reaching that month
of like when the event happened. And there is a process,
like if you're ever in therapy, you know that you
have to like kind of go through the morning of
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like who you guys were then and who you are now.
Because they are both a changed couple and they're going
to be stronger and more united, and I think that
this is incredible for them. But of course you never
want your loved one to go through any pain or
suffering or my goodness, a near death experience.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
I mean, you know, look, I did reach out to Derek,
and I just wanted to and I mentioned this in
my recap, but I just wanted to send my prayers
in love. And it wasn't easy for anyone. I think
that just knows those two people because it's like it.
And when he said, you know, the doctors came up
to them after they saw their performance, when they performed
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back in Washington, when she was feeling better or when
she was healing, the doctors were saying, like reiterating how
much of a miracle this is. And I did read
somewhere one of the headlines. I don't think that Haley
saw the package until right before she dan. This is
why we tell our partners not to watch the package.
But in a way, I have to say, if I'm
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just talking about their movement and their quality of movement,
it was so raw and I've never seen Derek in
a way and I say this with all due respect,
but like take the back seat and just like let
her shine.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
You know, he did that with a show when I
saw it too, which I think is great and I
think I think it was a moment for him to
realize like, of course he knew how important she was,
but really, really, this is their future together. They want
to build a family, they want to you know, they
have goals and hopes and dreams, and that almost was
taken away from them. And I think we often see
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Derek so strong and so confident and so happy and goofy,
and to see him really like get on his knees
and say like, please, please don't leave me. God, you
know it's it's it's yeah, you feel it, you feel
it deep inside. And I think that's why we all,
I think that's why we're also moved by it, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:11):
What I mean, No, I hear you. I was a
hot mess. I mean I just was like I was
dying over here. Like it was so it was so
real and it was very human, you know, what they
were doing in their movement. And one of the headlines
because I worry about the future as well because his
you know, tours and here's another one coming up. They're
not easy and they're quite intense physically. One of the headlines,
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says Derek. Coff and Haley share how she stays safe
on stage. Since health scare, we're very cautious, they said. Basically,
they're saying that, you know, look moving forward. She said
that I'm very in tune with my body as a dancer,
and I'm always like I can tell when something's off
and I'll be like, oh, that doesn't feel quite right.
I shouldn't be doing this move, or I shouldn't be
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doing this number. I feel like I'm being smart in
that way of just being like, I'm going to listen
to myself. She said, all the dancers and crew, we
all have these little badges that say if there's any
signs of this, this, this, or that, we need to
find medical We need to find a medical team, just
so we're aware. That's so great because it is high intent,
like it's intense these three perform.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Yeah, and I know that on that second half of
the tour that they did after Haley surgery, like Alexis
war understudied Haley and would step in anytime she was
just not feeling right or she know like I can
only do two numbers tonight, I don't want to do
four numbers, that type of thing. So yeah, I think
that that's really smart for them to have a plan
in place.
Speaker 1 (09:37):
And I actually they've talked about this. What is the cause? Like,
I guess there is no cause of it, right, like
it just happens or was it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
I think they're saving it for the documentary. Did you
see that they're doing a documentary on health scare? Yeah,
so they're shopping it around right now.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
Was that in the press?
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Yes, it was Deadline had Oh yeah, So I think, well,
we'll probably hear more. I'm assuming we're also going to
hear from her medical team and sort of what that was, like.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Well, amen or amen? I forgot is. I don't know
how to pronounce it. But he's a very well known doctor,
neurologist and psychologists. I believe it. I don't know, but
he's all over my Instagram because that's my that's my uh,
you know, stats on my Instagram. What's it called? What
is it called? What? I'm trying to find that? Uh?
What is your when you have when you look at
(10:22):
like certain subjects, then it becomes your algorithm? Yes, correct,
thank you, It's part of my algorithm. And I just
see him always talking and I know Derek and Haley
went to him during their healthcare So it's going to
be really fascinating because I think it's important. I know
we did have a neurologist on a few months ago,
and I guess she couldn't say what there isn't one
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cause of what you know, if that happens to anybody,
it's like, who knows. It could have been head trauma
that she didn't even know about from when she was
dancing or not dancing. Could have been years ago.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
Wow, and then all of a sudden it just suddenly
hits you later even.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
She was having seizures backstage? Are you kidding? Like, did
Derek stop the show?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
I'm well, from what I understand, they finished the show,
but finished it still, you finished the show because there
was only like one number left, So I think that
or something like that. They were at the tail end
of the show. But from what I do understand, it
was the quick thinking of some of the people backstage
recognizing what that was, what was happening in that moment,
getting that immediate medical attention, and also the fortunate thing
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of where that show was that night. They were in Washington,
d C. Which has incredible medical teams there. Had they
been in a smaller city, maybe in Texas, you know,
way outside of Houston or way outside of Dallas, it
would have probably been a different situation. So you know
when you just say like everything was aligning and the
universe was you know, thinking about this like it was
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one of those situations there's so many things aligned to you.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Because the timing like you have to rush to the
this is no like, that's why I'm shocked that they
didn't just stop the show. But no one knew him.
But when you're having a seizure, you would think like, okay,
we got to go to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
Anything to do that. Like my father had a mild stroke,
and even just like with a mild stroke, getting to
the hospital in a matter of minutes is crucial towards
your recovery.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah. So, speaking of the huff Family, Mark Ballas was
so refreshing to see him as a judge, and I
know a lot of people feel the same. I think
that what he was saying it was so condensed, right,
and yet it made sense, like there was not one
thing that he said that I didn't agree with, and
(12:35):
his visuals were perfect obviously, I'm pretty sure you know
he saw dress rehearsal and everyone, like, you know, I
think it's important that actually and I love when I
love the fact that he showed the other judges in
a way that you can actually give some constructive criticism
and positive feedback in less than ten fifteen seconds. You know, I.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
Agree, and I think that ninety nine point nine percent
I'm going to say probably one hundred percent of the
audience also agreed with that assessment in that he was
able to instead of just telling people what they did
on the floor, like you did great. I love this.
It was lovely. It was I see the improvement over
last week, and I think I have the perfect note
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for you to take forward with you next week. You know,
and I'm paraphrasing in all of this, but he gave
like the quick compliment along with the morsel you're going
to take with you into the rehearsal room for next week.
Speaker 1 (13:29):
I think what he did that was so brilliant was
that he he made it pedestrian, meaning like when we
because we have technical obviously terms for everything now, when
he was talking about a frame, he was like, you
gotta just envision a Martini glass. And you know, I
saw corking in the audience, and I'm sure you know
they helped Mark as well, like because you know, you're
talking to world champions, and he's the kid of these
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very well respected ballroom used to be competitors now like
worldwide just known because Shirley also has a huge influence
in just in England and worldwide at this point and
they are just so this is the thing that Kirky.
I remember taking lessons from him when I was a
teenager and he would say these visuals to me and
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I was like, oh, so he'd be like, Okay, when
you do drive kicks, you got to like, okay, here's
a cone kick the cone like kick at the same
spot at the top of the cone, you know, because
it just showed me that I needed to kick towards
the floor, not outwards, you know, to create a rebound rebound.
And so it was just so great to see that
because people at home could relate to it. It wasn't
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just like Lenin in a way sometimes got too technical
to where like maybe people may not have understood that
ahead maybe yeah, yeah, And I think this is why
people loved Mark and he did an outstanding job. And
Derek also is petitioning as well for him to be
a permanent Jodge.
Speaker 2 (14:50):
Because we don't have that len anymore on the panel,
and Len did an No one's ever going to replace him,
mind you, but we would like to like the audience.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
You can hear them. They want to know why certain
scores are being given right, and they want to know
what they can do to improve, and so do the couples.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
For God's sakes, they want to be able to walk
away from something absolutely right. I know what to do
next week.
Speaker 1 (15:12):
Yeah, So, speaking on this whole type of subject, I
guess when it comes to Mark judging, people are saying
that they would want they want Julianne Will. Some say
like are just so rude and saying we need to
replace her as a host. I don't believe that. I
think she's doing an amazing job. But people are suggesting,
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fans are that she switches with Alfonso.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Why, Okay, I'm gonna tell you what, because remember the
season that Alfonso came in and Tyro was still there.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
Ty had was great up there, though, and he was back.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
He was struggling though. He would struggle with the cards.
He would start looking down and start and he did
not do that one season, right, He only did that
one season and then Tyro went out, and then he
went in front, and I was like, I think that's
where Alfonso's meant to be. I think what people don't
understand is live TV is so hard and the interviewing
part is really hard, and interviewing is not necessarily asking questions.
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It's actually like listening. So you have to have your
first question going. And maybe she's thinking, I've got a
better question, but it is you're juggling like three things
at once while you're on live TV, trying to maintain
your time. She is doing really well, and I thought
she was doing well. Mean I actually agree.
Speaker 1 (16:25):
I actually agree with their suggestions because when you're talking
live TV and off the cuff, and I wish in
a way that I would have seen Tom in that
position as well, because it's all about listening and trying
not to be distracted by And this is why Tom
never wore his ear piece, because he couldn't do his
job with He would always take it out. He would
put it in just to make him happy happy. But
(16:47):
what are they going to do when he takes it
out during you know, the live show. Nothing? So I
don't know. I think she is doing a great job,
don't get me wrong, but I actually would be interested
to see and giving Alfonso so another chance at that because,
mind you, his chemistry with Tyro was way different than
with Julianne.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yeah, I love I do love Alfonso and Julianne together.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Yes, No, I definitely do.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
I would still keep elfonseo wary is. And you know
what I would do with Julianne. I would love to
get my hands on her and just do like a
quick coaching lesson on what she needs to do to
just feel like a little bit more confident in that.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
What would you say to her?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I think that she needs to trust what she's feeling
in the moment because she knows what it's like to
be a pro. She understands the dance language. Obviously, she
understands this show. And I know that someone speaking in
her ear but I think she needs to like go
ahead and ask the question that she really wants versus
what they're telling her.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
So just take her earpiece out, then take her.
Speaker 2 (17:43):
Rear piece out, because I think she's got it. I
just think that it's feeling grounded and rooted and confident
in what she needs to do.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
And yeah, and also like, mind you, I know that
this happens when they're actually dancing Live. It's very rare
that the person up there in the sky box has
the time to actually look at the dance because she
is being talked to that during that whole time. I
remember that with like other co hosts, So it's not
easy to react, I guess live when you know you're
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being talked to basically all the time.
Speaker 2 (18:15):
Yeah, people who are hard on Aaron Andrews when she
was in that role, and I'm like, honestly, to me,
as someone who does her role, I do Live TV,
She's some one of the best out there. She can
do football, she can do entertainment.
Speaker 1 (18:26):
Aaron was great.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Sharon was amazing, and when people would criticize her, I'm like,
oh no, you don't even understand. She makes it look
so easy.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
People criticize her because she's a strong woman and in
society still, which is so sad, but they you know,
a lot of people don't appreciate that. So a badass.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
I love her.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I fucking love her. She's great. That's speaking of badasses,
Let's talk about Alona mar She's amazing. Like, I okay,
so I'm changing my whole prediction of just letting you know,
but like this final is going to be really hard
to get into. However, I mean I told, I mean,
I swear and other than the first time I about Danny,
which I was kind of scared he was gonna just
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no one would know him. But now I think he's
a finalist for sure.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
What a breakthrough he had this week. Danny was unbelievable
and his homework. Did I have him in my final
I feel like I did.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
No way, There's no way you did.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
I had.
Speaker 1 (19:16):
I had when I was like I need so did
I I'm I'm well. I actually after dancing to Taylor Swift,
how smart are they? Like? That's why they went last? No,
they went last because the production put them last because
Swifties are no joke. There's just no joke.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
They're smart. Yeah, I mean obviously when we did the
Taylor Swift night too, that was like the highest rated
episode of the season.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And I'm telling you she's not going anywhere anytime soon.
Speaker 2 (19:40):
Now.
Speaker 1 (19:40):
Will she be a finalist? I don't know. But after
those fucking sorry I keep scoring, after those posit dobly
knee walks. That was brilliant.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
That was great.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
She I had chills.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, I think like she just needs to refine her
movement a little bit, like sometimes she throws it away
a little bit or doesn't complete the movement. But I
think if like Sasha starts working on those little details,
she's going to have that breakthrough that that Danny had
this week. I love that, like Whitney was able to
like yet and you know it was done yet they
they got right in there with Danny emotionally and it
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really it really made a big impact.
Speaker 1 (20:15):
And that positive doubly though, thank god it did, because
that week before it was a hot mess and I
think it was his jacket that was restricting him his movement.
But Okay, going back to Yolona, I love that she
went into wardrobe and was like, I want to be
as naked as I can possibly be. She's not wearing
fish this woman like And I have to tell you,
they're pretty strict on the show when it comes to wearing,
(20:35):
Like if they see anything during dress rehearsal, this is
why we're fully dressed for dreshearsal. They want to see
if there's any thing that shows that none of us
tube or something I groube cellulite, like honestly, and sometimes
they'll come to your trailer and be like you got
to put these fishnets on. You know, it's happened to me,
and it's just the way it is, like I wouldn't
want to be I wouldn't want my cellulite to show either,
(20:55):
so they're just protecting us. And I just love how
she was so like her body was so beautiful. She
just looked gorgeous and she owned it. Like I believe
that she really felt like herself for once during.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
This so beautiful. She looks beautiful, she felt beautiful. I
love her connection with Alan. I feel like Alan is
really in her corner. Yeah yeah, I mean you could
see it when she was tiery. He was tiery, and
he's not manufacturing tears. He is literally like.
Speaker 1 (21:25):
I am definitely not.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I want this for you, And that's what I feel.
The one thing about Alona is and that's why I
connected with her back in the Tokyo Olympics, and like
she just is genuinely herself and she's likable and lovable
and I do want to see her all the way
to that and vulnerable is the vulnerable yeah this and
the way her teammates we were bawling their eyes out
(21:47):
because you know, and listen, she is a breakout star
from that team, and they could feel jealous. That could
have been she has women. Yeah, could have been an outcome.
But guess what doesn't feel like any of that is happening.
It feels like she's like, this is my team. We
did this together. I want to hear I'm dedicating this
to you.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Yeah, she's not putting on like a front like this
is who she is. And I this is what I
said when I saw her when after that her jive
and you know there was it was really emotional. Not
last week of the week before. This is what I
hope I was going to see from Brooks during Dedication night.
And I think again, like Kristin Cavaleri, who got eliminated
during Most Memorable Week three with Mark ballas her story
(22:25):
was about you know, her most memorable year was about
her graduating from high school and everyone else had such
tragic stories. Now, mind you, the executives are very much
involved when it comes to this in particular, and Melissa
Gilbert when I interviewed her, mentioned it as well that
like she couldn't talk about her back injury because someone
else had an injury, and it was like, I really
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don't believe that that should be a thing. When you
have something that you want, like your actual contestants to
talk about that's genuine to them on most memorable or
dedication night, you gotta just let two injuries happened, so
what like and so they also because.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Then I'm faking like what my most memorable year is
or what my who I'm thanking too?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
That's thank you crazy just because someone else called it
out first, Like that's ridiculous. And also, and this is
why I believe and I can almost tell that they
went up to GLEB because they do push. They don't
want everything to be so depressing. Okay, they want like
the saucas in there and all of it. But like,
at the end of the day, this is what you've
decided to make a theme night, right, So you have
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to make it authentic to the couple, regardless of what
it is. And I believe there was some songs being
danced to during dedication night that I was not connecting to,
and I have a feeling it wasn't necessarily their first choice.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
I didn't feel like Dwight and Danny's song.
Speaker 1 (23:47):
Okay, that was so not okay. If I were so
felt bad for my partner, I mean, I would have
straight up said I love you so much, but like,
this can't happen. We can't do it, like and it's
one of Danny's great dances is the Ramba. You could
tell she was laughing as she was dancing because she couldn't.
It doesn't make you want to do a figure eight, okay.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
Because the song felt really juvenile, and of course it
was you're dedicating it to your kids.
Speaker 1 (24:16):
Like it was him singing. It's just I think they're
going to have to step it up if they don't
want to go home. I think he is, but his
personality is he's not going home charming.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
I think he's I think he's getting close. I do so,
I do.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
I mean he had the lowest score.
Speaker 2 (24:36):
I think that there's some social media rules.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
When I started, when I posted something I might talk
about him, people went after me. So you know when
people go after you, right that people are like behind
this couple.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
Interesting see and I'm seeing the opposite, which is kind
of curious.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
So we'll see they're like, oh my god. They were
like because I said, I said, why didn't he rehearse
like no one And then it was like this whole
personal matter that people seemed to whoever said that, or
a few people that came at me, they must be
stalking him, because it's like I didn't know none of
I don't know anything, just to be clear, unless it's
in the package. I don't know about Riley's ankle. I
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don't know about anything anything anything unless they show this
in the package. I don't stalk people on Snapchat. I
don't even have Snapchat.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Have Snapchat either, But yeah, I think, but I do
feel like I need to see more colors of his personality.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Dance Lauren rehearsal. Actually, I know that he.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
Is like a smiley, fun guy, and I don't feel
like I'm getting anything else from that. And I think
that that's and that was the same thing with Brooks,
Like I know you're super hot and sexy. Now I
want to see something else.
Speaker 1 (25:44):
But what's yeah, and I agree with you? And what's
also like when I say that it doesn't make you
want to do a figure eight music, I can't say
it enough. It is vital to the person choreographing and
just to the performance, because like when they were talking
about his cucarachas in the rumba he then did, but
it was because this music didn't make him want to
do it like that, like it's very right, Like who
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wants to grind and do that?
Speaker 2 (26:09):
Like that's just not with that song, which was.
Speaker 1 (26:13):
It was cute anyway. So supposedly Anna Delvey is shut
out of Dancing with the Stars' finale. No invite for
the scammer social life. They just don't want the drama.
This is from Radar. I don't believe this, not me either.
It's in their contract. By the way, they do have
to come back, right And.
Speaker 2 (26:29):
I don't believe for one bit that that she that
the show doesn't want her.
Speaker 1 (26:33):
They do want her now, well they cast her again
for an All Stars No, probably not, but like they are,
they have to come back honestly. Okay, So people seem
to be rejoicing about uh sad Brooks and club. And
I also believe this. The scores were too high. I
know that they must know the votes and maybe this
(26:55):
is my conspiracy theory, Like I think sometimes the executives
are like, you can just score them whatever, because at
the end of the day they're going home regardless.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Oh I think that. I think I think that about
all judging panels. When you know there's certain ways you
can use a phrasing, even just of a word, like
if you're here next week. Things like that that the
influence and sway people's votes.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
You know, but they already saw the votes from the
previous week.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I yeah, they knew, But I'm talking about the judges
even just say like little subtle things that I always go,
oh yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Well, like when I got eliminated, we were saying the
judges during commercial break were basically overly hugging us and
kissing us and telling us how great of a job
we were doing before we danced ourselsa, so I knew
we were going home.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
Yeah, you're like, this is it.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
I was like, why are you like as if I said,
as if we died, Like why are you being so
overly affectionate? But they felt so bad, That's why they
were pissed. Emma. What happened to Emma?
Speaker 2 (27:54):
She injured her ankle in like snap her. What's It's
not a break or anything. I believe it's a sprain
that she just needs to rest. And obviously she has
the tour coming up, so that's gonna be you know,
resting that ahead of the tour and making sure she's
feeling one. It's just a sprain, an it's I think
it's a pretty bad sprain from what I understand if.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
You're in the hospital. It was that she didn't tear
her ACL. I don't think so, because she would need surgery.
If you tear your ACL, you're probably gonna need surgery.
Does she not get surgery? Okay? Good?
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Yeah, good to know it's just very swollen right now?
Speaker 1 (28:29):
Well yeah, I mean also, like I'm sure that sucks
for her because she's had a short season. But you know,
even I think people don't understand this, Like people even
the pros that do get eliminated. You know, it's a
full time job still though you're not getting paid as
much for sure, but like they expect you to do everything,
like all those little like bumpers that you see. I mean,
(28:50):
I know I did a lot of them when Sam
got eliminated as well with Pasha. They take time, you know,
and it's not you still have to go to camera blocking,
it's the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
So yeah, we wish her well. I hope the recovery
is quick and I hope she feel strong against soon
because you know, when you come off of an injury.
It takes a while to feel confident on that ankle.
Speaker 1 (29:09):
Yeah, this is it. Dancers lives are dancer's life is
not fun sometimes it's really it's all dependent on your body.
So I wish your love. But what do you think
of the Troop?
Speaker 2 (29:23):
I love the Troop this year. I really feel like
they're very excited to be there, Like I kind of
feel their energy off of the screen, and I think
that that's been a nice addition since we didn't have
them last year. So I feel like it's nice to
have them back. I feel like they add an element.
It's a good transition thing to have. I know the
audience likes it too. And another way because sometimes they
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will pull Troop members, you know, a couple of seasons
down the line, and you know, elevate them to pro.
So I think it's a great way for the audience
to also get to know these people. I think that
they need two more people, so they'd have six. They
have four four, But like so, but add too much
at another couple, Yeah, I think that would just make
it just look fuller in case of ending injuries, and
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also if the some of the pros may not want
to like let's say they get eliminated like Leb and
he may just not want to week off.
Speaker 1 (30:15):
You know. At least they have dancers, So I don't know. Yeah,
I just think that the peering sometimes, like I I
do love I'm sorry, I forgot it. Roman He's great, Yes,
Like I could see him as a prone a couple
of years for sure.
Speaker 2 (30:32):
He came off of So you think you can dance
like right into this? So this is good for him?
Speaker 1 (30:36):
What's his personality like? You know?
Speaker 2 (30:38):
I don't The show was filmed in Atlanta this year
versus Los Angeles, so I don't know his personality off.
Speaker 1 (30:44):
Of Did they show him though on So you think
you can dance? Like? What was he like there?
Speaker 2 (30:48):
He didn't last as long as he probably should have,
so and we didn't get to see the colors of
the contestants fully their personalities as much unless they made
it all the way to the end because it was
a weird format this year.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
Is it coming back?
Speaker 2 (31:00):
I don't think so. The new format that they did
just really didn't work. I'm like, the old format is
what people want to see. They liked the classic.
Speaker 1 (31:07):
Yeah, you can't don't fix what's not broken.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Why they do that?
Speaker 1 (31:12):
So I don't know why either. Did he kind of
remind you of Max a little bit? Oh?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
I think so? And you know, he and Max obviously
knew each other, because I believe that from me, I
really noted with them. Yeah, I was surprised when Roman
was on Troop this year. I was like, oh, that
makes sense.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Did you hear Max's interview on a podcast about a
lot of things?
Speaker 2 (31:32):
Yes? How did you feel about that?
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Well? You know I did talk about it with Michael
when he was on last week. I was hurt by
what he said, to be quite honest, and I was
confused a little bit, as I am sometimes in general.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
But I'll say, from my opinion, I think it's it
was an odd or out of pocket comment because he
also comments on the show all of the time, whether
it's on social media or he does a YouTube video.
So if you're saying for you to move on, why
is me moving on?
Speaker 1 (32:09):
But like, why move on? Why aren't we capitalizing on exactly?
Why the show? You know what I'm saying, like, why
would you exactly? Ever?
Speaker 2 (32:16):
That was his criticism, and I would say, if we
look at what's happening with all these old scripted shows
like a lot of former cast members are doing podcasts
about their time on a show, whether it's like called
rewatches rewatches, like why can't that exists? I think that's
wonderful and I love getting the insight we're not going
(32:36):
to get, Like I can talk all I want about
Dancing with the Stars, but my experience is not deep
like your experience.
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Right, And also like same thing with the recaps, like
I have as much time as I want to talk
about each couple, what as in comparison to the judges
they have fifteen seconds? Like I can at least try
and help people understand what so and so said or whatever.
But I'm also an expert in ballroom dancing, like why
wouldn't I talk about it? But it's not that I
(33:04):
truly believe the reason why he's upset is because of
most of the people who have been on this podcast
that has worked with Max, whether that's someone from behind
the scenes or some of his partners. Ultimately, unfortunately, their
experience wasn't necessarily a positive one, and I think that
is why he's attacking me so well.
Speaker 2 (33:24):
And I think your podcast, which some people maybe not
understand that this show listened Dancing with the Stars brings
lots of wonderful things to the table. It brings us
like celebrity and joy and happiness, and there's so much
noise in this world and get to see dancing and
it's great. You can focus for two hours, but understand
that it's not a perfect show and things could always
(33:45):
be better. And while some people's experience and they'll come
back and visit every single year, not everyone had a
great experience on the show, and those two things can
co exist.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
Thank you. Yeah, anyway, it's a shame, but it is
what it is. Let's talk about gen Tran and how
so sad So I love being able to see. Also,
I think she's starting to come out of her shell
and show a vulnerable side. She basically said it in
her package during dedication night that she felt unlovable and
she suffered through depression, and it just it really like,
(34:17):
I don't know, I felt like I could really relate
to her. I don't know if it's because we both
come from an Asian background, but like you know, she
was saying that her parents it was a tumultuous type
of environment that she was living in and witnessing her parents'
fight and seeing cop cars outside their home, like that
definitely stays in your body until you actually are able
(34:39):
to grieve it out, really and so that was really
serious and I think that was a memorable package for me.
I have to say, you.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Know, she's so interesting to me because I see her
on social media. She's delightful on social media, and she's
so confident, and I love how she's constantly like, you know,
ribbing Sasha a little bit, which is great. But then
it's interesting like sometimes I see in the dance floor
and I'm like, ah, she's not feeling it's confident. And
I was like and I was like, she's so strong
(35:09):
and confident outside of all of this. But it's I
think it's like that that battle she's had when when
you're little, it's like, oh, I'm just going to be
really tough and everyone's going to think I'm fun.
Speaker 1 (35:18):
It's a defense. Mechanism is a defense. Now, yeah, I
have the same thing what I appreciate. And I didn't
know this until she says she was a or a pianist,
like professionally at one point or something like that. I
was like, Oh, she's a hard worker, Like there's a
silly side to her, but she is like that is
this is her life right now, and I don't think
it's been necessarily only because my mom made me play
(35:41):
the piano and I know how hard it is, like
you have to practice, practice, practice, and so she's definitely disciplined.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
I think for sure, which I'm sure for Sasha is
fantastic because she's probably dying to put in the work,
really wants to do a good job. Yeah, it looks
like she's having fun too. I think she's having fun
with this experience.
Speaker 1 (35:57):
Yeah. I mean going back to Sasha and like, I
think what he's done. You know, the judges have said
this twice to him, basically without saying it. They've said,
simplify your choreography a little bit, because he has put
there is a lot Now. Is it some of the
best work that he's done. Yes, I believe that, but
there is a Now it's kind of like find those
(36:19):
moments of stillness because they have such beautiful chemistry. Like
their Beginnie Waltz was so good, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (36:26):
That's beautiful to like watch on the dance floor.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
So again, like I feel like she's catching up to him,
like constantly catching up to him. Sometimes at that moment.
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Of stillness, just to like take that breath. I bet
it would be exquisite.
Speaker 1 (36:39):
I can't wait they do the rumba. Oh yeah, but
I hope they don't do cartwheels.
Speaker 2 (36:46):
He loves gymnastics.
Speaker 1 (36:49):
He should do circus with the stars. I think there was.
There was Antonio Sabatto Junior won it. It was circus
something with I don't know if it.
Speaker 2 (36:59):
Was circus with this anyway, it used to do a
circus of the stars, but I feel like that was
like a nineteen eighty nine something or other.
Speaker 1 (37:05):
Yeah, maybe, okay, let's end this story or end this
episode with Zendia. I know this is kind of an
old headline, but we never talked about it last week.
But Zendaiya basically this is the headline can't watch herself
on Dancing with the Stars as it was too stressful.
She opened up, not on this podcast, unfortunately, but we
tried to get her on, but uh basically said that
(37:27):
this whole process for her. She goes, I haven't watched
the show since I was on. I didn't really watch
it before I was on. She said, I also think
it was a very stressful experience for me. I don't
think I'm going to be watching this anymore.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I mean, I think it explains that the show is stressful.
I mean, especially when you make it to those those
final weeks.
Speaker 1 (37:48):
Especially when you're good like Zendia.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
She was so good. She's an incredibly hard worker. She's
an incredibly smart young woman, a talented young woman.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
And just well right who's like no joke in a
way too, but he's the best. But like, if you
give him the best, he's gonna push you.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
He's gonna push you. And I think that you know,
she has been at the show before too, and everyone
in my like because like she's she came to visit
a couple times, like maybe season twenty and route people
and people like she's seen the show again, and I
was like, maybe she forgot that God stalkers, you know,
they're like she is in season twenty audience.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
I mean, this is coming from her mouth. I mean,
I have to say, I'm getting a lot of shit
for my recaps, and I just wanted to just say
something because I believe that, first of all, there's no
need to waste your time attacking me or trying to
put me up against say Riley, for example, because that's
what it is like she hates Riley. She's jealous of Riley.
(38:46):
They're okay. So I don't hate her. I don't know her,
like we don't really know each other. I know her
older sister. But I am not jealous of Riley. I
am actually really trying to give constructive feedback. And I
really believe that I am. I'm not attacking anybody by
any means, Like I'm not going after something like because
I'm very sensitive to that. When I did Dance Moms,
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you know, I was dealing with teenagers who were being
attacked and not getting constructive criticism from their former coach.
And it's something that I've also dealt with for my teachers,
and I know that's the lasting effect on people. And
I'll never forget. When I started, there were message boards
and it was really difficult for me to push through.
So I am very cautious with what comes out of
(39:29):
my mouth. And I just think, look, you guys don't
have to listen to my podcasts at all, you know,
but let's just refrain from the negativity and trying to
like put women against women because that's not the case
by any means.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Yeah, and we all know if Riley is a superstar.
Speaker 1 (39:47):
I mean it's a superstar, but it's also there's a
room for improvement with everybody. Yeah, and it's all even
with Jenna, like everybody, and.
Speaker 2 (39:56):
You know, it kind of reminds me of like when
Derek was kind of waiting, like back back mirror balls
and that kind of era, like six of them exactly,
and the criticism from people on the other side that
didn't want him to win again. You know, Oh, he
always gets the easy contestant.
Speaker 1 (40:10):
I think they called him the Golden Kid or the
Golden boy. Yeah, whatever it was.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
But it used to be like, you know, the Huffs.
It was like the huffs and Ballast versus the fam,
which is all the Schmerkovski's and oh and then the
fan bases and then they would fight.
Speaker 1 (40:25):
I remember when we came back. I remember like They're
back and it was a cover of US Weekly. It
was like, this is where I got this title with
this podcast because the cover was like drama blooh blood.
It was like three words. Anyway, it was similar to
this podcast name without the spright hands. But it was me,
Derek and Max making our comebacks. We both came back
at the same season. Do you remember that gosh, what
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season was that I danced with Brian Locktey. I believe
when I remember, I had just come back. I took
a couple of years off Derek as well, and then
we had that like you know, Argentine Tango opening or
it was like pitting us all three against us.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
I love it. That's twenty sixteen if I'm correct, because
Ryan Lockdy was at the Reo Olympics.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Yeah, yeah, anyway, Yeah, thank you. You have anything else
to add?
Speaker 2 (41:15):
Oh no, I just want to say one thing about
Zendea just because we kind of like want you know.
It kind of goes back to when thinking about like
Sindia saying like, oh, it's so stressful. It kind of
goes back to your charity interview saying like, hey, why
isn't there a mental health care professional on set just
helping people out? Just throwing it out there.
Speaker 1 (41:34):
Again, honestly, it just doesn't hurt, Like why not?
Speaker 2 (41:37):
It's helpful. I think it'd be really helpful for people
to be able to talk through some things.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
And if God, and this is what I think too,
like half of these people wouldn't come on the podcast
and talk about how stressful it was if there was one. Yeah,
I agree with you anyway, that's what runding me. I'm
god be going on forever this show, so hopefully they
finally wake.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
Up one of these days.
Speaker 1 (41:59):
Thanks so much to my fantastic co host Kristin Burt
for being part of our weekly headlines and Hot Topic series.
Don't forget to follow Kristen at the Kristen Burt and
the podcast at sex Lies and spray Tands on Instagram,
threads and TikTok. We have new interviews coming your way
every Sunday evenings, delving into the world of DWTS. This Sunday,
(42:19):
I'll be sitting down with my former partner, Cody Rigsby.
Until next time.
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