March 24, 2024 • 59 mins
Let's take you back to 2007 and the Season 5 DWTS Shocker, which had the live audience booing and the judges upset! That night in October, high-scoring fan favorite and presumed front-runner Sabrina Bryan was booted early from the show!
Sabrina joins Cheryl to discuss the shocking elimination and why she feels she was voted off early. She also reveals that show producers fed her lines, which landed her in hot water with viewers, what it was like being Mark Ballas' first celeb dance partner, and their bond off-screen.
Plus, her campaign to get on the 15th Season of the DWTS All-Stars show, Louis vs. Mark's teaching styles, which partner she had more chemistry with on the dance floor, and a Cheetah Girls Rapid Fire Q&A!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex Lies and Spray Tans with Me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Sex
Livees and Spray Tans. My next guest is known for
her role in The Cheetah Girls. Is a woman who
I am lucky enough to call a friend and someone
who I became very close to, especially during our time
on the show together and on the DWTS tour. She
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was someone I confided in knowing that what I had
experienced during my early DWTS days of being in the
public eye was something she already had experienced herself. I
will forever be grateful to my next guest for holding
my hand through the public scrutiny I was facing at
that time, as she was definitely someone I was able
to lean and depend on through the chaos, but also
the fun and more importantly, the memories and friendship that
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we had established back then, which is something I will
cherish forever. My next guest competed during season five of
Dancing with the Stars, and her time on the show
will definitely go down in history as one of the
most shocking eliminations in all thirty two seasons. Let's give
a warm Welcome to my friend, the beautiful and talented
why life and mother of two, Sabrina Brian to the podcast.
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Welcome to Sex, Lies and Spray Tan Sabrina Brian. Holy crap,
people are excited about this, you know?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah? You got a lot of views on my igs
aka Instagram stories.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's a new one. I think I'm gonna have to
drop that one down. Jot it down.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Everything's an abbreviation. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm so good? How are you? You look beautiful? Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'm like I want to just grab you through this screen.
I wish we could have done this in person.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Maybe next time, yeah, for sure, because I don't think
we're going to get through all my questions. So speaking
of first of all, thank you for doing this. Second
of all, who is Sabrina Brian? Behind all the fame,
the fortune, everything? Thank you? Who are you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Who am I?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh gosh, behind closed doors?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now I'm a mom and loving that. I feel like
I'm living all of my dreams out with my little girl.
I've always wanted to be a boy mom. I've loved
being a girl mom. She is a complete replica of me,
so that's scary. She is she's so sassy, but she's
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hilarious and she's sweet. She's but man, she keeps me
on my toes. She says things every single day. Yesterday,
you know what she told me. She was looking. I
just put some new larings and she was looking in
the mirror. Mommy, she's three. Okay, she's three, Mommy, I
love them. Then she pulls up her belly her little
shirt and goes, I think I want one right here.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Her belly button.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I said what. She goes, yeah, and one of our
sitters has one, and so she said, I want one
like her. I knew these kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know, I still have a whole permanent hole. I
just show her what happens when you don't give any mommies.
She rule after to babies. It's no longer a hole.
It's like a slit. It's not cute, and it's there forever.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Every time I get a spray's hand, it's a little darker.
I gotta like, like, it's just it's so ugly. It's
so ugly. It's so ugly. It's it's not huge, it's
just it's just not cute, and you'll just always know
that there was one there I, it's not like a
I heard nose rings go away, you know, like thees nowadays. Yeah,
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it's not like that. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's some extra skin and cover I have, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And you start thinking about things that you'll eventually have,
like those talks. But for her they come so early.
Why were we talking about this when you're theree.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
At least she can come to you and talk about it.
You know, I would never true. I pierced my own
ear like I was such a rebel, Like it was
a dare and I wanted to be in this friend group. Anyway,
that's for another podcast. So what is what do you
think people's biggest misconception is about you? Sabrina?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, it depends what we're talking about. So I feel like,
you know, maybe Cheetah Girls wise, they thought I was
a little bit more squeaky clean than I was, you know,
which I'm glad that I did a good job because
I feel like with that role it was important for
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you know, when I was I was in college during
Cheetah Girls. If I had a red solo cup at
any kind of college party, and so someone tried to
take a picture of me, I would just throw it.
I just would not want any kind of because I
just felt it was very important being a part of
the Disney Channel. I was really particular. But I think
now they would think I was a little bit more
squeaky clean than I was when it comes to Dancing
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with the Stars. I don't know if it's necessarily a misconception.
I was really you remember, well, I don't know if
you remember. I was just really intense. I had an
intense partner who had a whole family, who was intense
into the show and wanting to do well and to partner.
The second time wasn't as much, I don't think, but
that first time, I feel I came across a little
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bit more. This is true, I came across a little
bit more arrogant than I actually am. I'm very competitive,
but it wasn't as arrogant as I feel like some
of those the packages sort of showed. I was nervous
and freaked out. You know, shed a tear probably before
every single show because I was so nervous that I
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was going to make a mistake. I've been performing for
a long time, but never on that kind of level.
And so yeah, I think that that arrogance might have
just been kind of what I like, just sucking it
up and holding my breath, you know, or you know,
things that I might have said. I don't know. I
feel like I look at how your season a little
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bit more arrogant than I ever was. I was freaking
out every week. Every week I thought I was going home.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But arrogance, so like, is this a thing that you
are telling yourself or you mean that that is what
people you believe thought of you.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So back at season five, which was in seventeen sixty four,
with the show that was the very maybe not the
first season. I don't know. Maybe you could tell me.
When they had those chat boards online on ABC dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It was there from the beginning? Was it there from
the same boards? Those message boards? Yes, okay, toxic but
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, but it was very new in the world. You know.
I had never experienced, well, at least for me. I
guess maybe I should just say it was new for me.
I had never experienced that with the Cheatah girls, you know,
I just really no if they were it was all
love and you know, again.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There were still message boards.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't remember there being cheatagirl message boards that I
knew life, so the show was kind of my first,
right and so I read them or my manager would
read them, or Mark would read them. Mark really took
a lot of stuff to heart. But just it was
from that, you know, just you know, she just thinks
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she's so great, or you know, she she doesn't deserve
to be here because she's a dancer, you know, those
kinds of things, And it was like very hard, you know,
I was still pretty young. It was twenty two or
twenty three when I did the show. And again I
went on because my mom loved the show, and I
went to the not the finale night, but I went
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to the previous season and saw it and was wowed
by the production, the you know, that competitive intensity, the energy.
I loved all of it, and I knew it would
mean so much to my mom. So that's that's where
I why even went on it and then.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Never went on it because you wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, I wanted to. I never knew wanted sho. Okay,
but this is how this show came into my life.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would come home to my parents' house from LA
when I was living in LA and if it was
on a Monday or Tuesday night, they were in front
of the TV with their little like TV dinner trays.
My mom and dad would have a notepad their dinner,
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a notepad PA to make notes of their thoughts of
each of the routines, and they would give their own
scores and see they were trying to see if they
could get you know, lens score. They always wanted to
see how close they could figure out, if they could
figure out the technique, because again, ballroom was in nowhere
of my life. I had never done.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Really anything anything. I think I did some swing dancing
type of thing, you mean, partner dancing, But you had
dance before obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, but this style I mean you're talking tap, jazz, ballet,
hip hop.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, no, I don't know it actually helps you, I
think too. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think the perception of what you should be able
to do when now so you think you can dance
has also blurred the lines because so many of those
dancers will now be on the show or you know,
or now dancing with the stars as contemporary routines. You know,
all that has kind of blurred. But back at season five,
it was very I feel, looking at it, it was
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a lot more to the book of what the dances
were supposed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
To technoi yeah, which I think should still be that way,
but that's just me because that's what separated the show
from so you think you can dance absolutely world of Dance,
all these dance shows. That's what made it unique. But yes, yeah, everything.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean I remember learning to do the quick step
and the choreography being made and it had to flow
to like all the there was all these different things,
and I loved learning that. It was so cool to
me that to learn all these rules, all the dancing
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I had there were no rules, there was just you
just got out there and there was styles this, there
was specific colds thing you know, things that landed so
much of I loved. I loved getting his critiques anyway,
So back to my parents loved it. So for Mother's Day,
I called my agent and I said, is there any
way I could maybe get into go to a live
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taping for a Mother's Day gift? I'd love to do
that for my mom, and my agent truly goes, it's
so crazy you're calling me, because Dina Katz from Dancing
the Stars just called and asked if you'd be interested
in coming to a show to see if you want
to do next season, And I was like, okay, I
mean I'll go check it out. I really this is
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really just about like wanting to get my mom live
at the show and she's like okay. It took me
maybe one from the beginning to maybe one commercial break
to be like, I'm in what do I need to
do to get me on this show? I'm so this
show is amazing. I loved it. I really did. So.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You realize that you were the first dancer to come
on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right, Mario Lopez wasn't considered a dancer.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He was a living but.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I didn't dance.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well he was on say, I got right, right, right,
right right, But that's I believe that's I'm not saying
this to tack you or anything like that. I'm saying
because that's probably was a shock to the fans.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I went out just being myself, and I remember Joey
Fatone telling me when we started hanging out, you really
screwed up. You came out of the gates like flying,
and you should have probably held it back and got better.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And first of all, how can you do that, like
as a performer, I still can't do that to this don't.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Have it on and off button with that when it
comes to that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Done, you're not being your authentic, organic, vulnerable self, which
is what gets you through.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Like you were, absolutely but I also would have now
hated every video that I saw. Now I can look
at my cha cha the very first thing I got
to do on the show. And I don't know how
technically great it was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I just watched it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I loved every aspect of that routine. I love that
I have these videos that I get to now show
my daughter. At one point, you know, look at mommy.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Look at mommy when she starts killing it, backing at
me with from her dance stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'll be like, let me just show you a video
straight lockstep legs. Look at those locksteps, chacha cha. You
know like you were killing it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Let's rewind here a little bit. Okay, So you were
Mark Ballas's first partner, right, Yeah. Did Dina Katz ask
you like, did you want to dance with someone in specific?
Or was this was kind of like a you want
to do it? Great, okay, let's do this. Did you
tell her you had dance experience?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes? I that was in because you know you go
to this interview and you meet all of the producers
and Dina's there as well, and they have a bunch
of questions that you sit down and talk to them about.
And I told them about my dance experience. I said,
but I've I don't even know what ballroom is, to
be honest, I think I've seen a few videos and
(13:13):
I've been to the show once. Now that's all I know.
It's literally where it starts and ends. But I have
done obviously with the Cheetah Girls. I'm the dancer in
the group. You know, my character is, and I know
how to dance, I know how to move. But I said,
I really would love to learn this new style and
see if I can do it. It would be awesome.
(13:34):
I if anything, ballet was the worst. So ballroom scared
the crap out of me. I was asking them, is
there any chance that that waltz thing could maybe be
not on my list of things to do?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because you said to her, I don't think I could
do that at.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All, you know. But so they asked me that, And
then when it came to partners, they said, do you
have any partners that you you know, really are And
I said, Honestly, the only ones I pay attention to
are the girl ones. I love Sheryl, Julianne looks great.
You know, I don't really pay attention to the guy ones.
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And I don't know anyone enough. Please just give me
somebody who you know, really wants to take on, somebody
who wants to learn. Like that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
What were your first I guess impressions because Mark, I'll
never forget when Mark and Derek, you know, it was
their first season. They are in they you know, they're
coming out with me if seven nights a week. They're
like my two like security guards and little tiny tank tops.
You know, they were boys. They were boys, Like they
were so young and little, and you know they obviously
knew like, oh I was the girl that just like
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had a great time and also had success on this
show and like it was a whole thing. And mind you,
I knew them from but not right, not well. But
I did take I got coaching from Shirley. I went
to Julianne's tenth birthday at Shirley Ballas's house in England.
Like it's just it's a whole mix. But I never
got to know them until they started Dancing with the Stars.
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Who were your first impressions of Mark ballas, Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He what I love still looking back to this day.
He was so excited to be on the show. I
mean he some of the pros. By season five, you
guys were all comfortable. You were all good. Really yeah,
you guys the only time And it wasn't until the
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end of the season that I realized what all of
you go through as far as wondering and not knowing
about whether you'll be on the next season.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, and then we also had tours in between. We
didn't have a day off.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes you had you had a tour, yes, and so
it was it was a lot, but you guys seemed
like you found your group. You were excited about it.
It was different from what you all grew up doing
from the time you started walking. And it was and
this came with, you know, a fame, It came with notoriety.
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We could get into hide like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It was just there was.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So much that you guys seem so comfortable. And Mark
came with this just energy of the way he is.
He's so competitive and if he's gonna do something, he's
gonna kill it, Like it's gonna be. He's going to
put everything in it. He has two parents that have
raised him to go for gold or don't do it
at all, you know what I mean. I mean? And
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they it was fun to get to know them. They
were the amount of instruments that him and Derek can play,
you know, the the amount of plays they've done and
acting and they're surely I imagine Shirley back in the day
when they were little.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Shirley's Mark's mother.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Shirley's Mark's mom, and I have this this this visual
is because of the pictures that Shirley's shown me of
Mark and Derek and their little uniforms school just so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's like that it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Looks like that book Madeline when you were little. Yes,
I know what they look like.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Swear to God their own bodies.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yes, And I feel like, you know, Mark sitting at
a table and maybe just doodling, and truly looks over
his shoulder and goes, oh, you like to doodle, And
then she's like, hey, Oscar and has like the most
professional doodler of the world, ready to train him in
being the best doodler. Like she was just that mom,
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
She was a dance mom, but on all levels. Yeah,
not in a bad way at.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Great, this is what you're gonna do. How amazing is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
How much does she help you a ton? I tell
you totally had Shirley's style, like you like to tell
from your leg action that Charlie Ballast was straight up
in your business.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes, and the egg and the flip, I mean that
that is a Shirley ballace.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's just a perfect way I made sure ballroom arms.
How about Quirky? How did how much was Quirky Ballast involved?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
The Corky and Shirley were both in and out of
La Quirky. I think had actually gotten an apartment as
well as Shirley's, but they were in and out. They're
both working a ton, so it kind of depended on
what day of what week we would get them. But also,
you know Mark not knowing a lot of people, nor Derek,
it was nice for them to have family there, you
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know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's like out help since my last day on the show, Like,
oh for sure, I.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Know from all the pros on the show that I
know when I'm close within love, they all do they
are all these these are these are the things I'm
really good at, and these are the things I'm not
so great out. So this is why I pull in
someone and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So was it ever like at a at a cross roads?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
A little bit?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Because I'm sure you collaborated. I'm sure you wanted to
also have your input, which is not normal.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No. And as a matter of fact, they.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You're like hip hop section in the Chasha. You didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I did not want any part of that, I said,
But it didn't collaborate, but they didn't need to. It
wasn't like the way the package is. No, I don't
love that, because the way the package is is like,
oh here, now I'm going to teach you. No, that's
not how I was. I was like, I don't want
to waste four counts of eight on the hip hop?
Can we do more? Cha cha?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Who's they who forced you?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The producer? Like everyone around like, hey, Sabrina, don't you
want to do something like this? Don't you want to
put some hip hop? And then you know Mark had
hip hop experience as well, and so he was totally
down and wanting to do it, and I said, okay, Mark,
let's do some hip hop. Teach me and they're like, no, Sabrina,
you're the hip hop dancer, and I didn't want to teach.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I know why they did this. They needed a story
in your package because they say, would your story be
of you just like being amazing? Like that's there's no story, right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, but it to me was a downfall because it
made it look like I was trying to take over
and that just wasn't the case.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Do you think that's the reason why you got voted
off way too early? I think that, like the public,
when these packages keeps saying it are vital, they are
important than your freaking dance. Okay, So it's like at
the end of the day, that's what I mean, like
knowing what I know now, it's like what what comes
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out of your mouth? You got to think about the edit, right.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It was more frustrating when it was an edit that
was given to you, like that was given to you
when you were not even wanting to say that or
talk about it. Things happened in the rehearsal studio, and
there's there's one on week three where him and I
were really frustrated, and a lot of it had to
do with him putting the routine together and I got
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frustrated because the week before Elio kash Novas, who was
with Juliana or Julian, he beat us our score, he
beat the score that we got that week before, and
so then it was they would instantly We're only on
week three, instantly their pit us against each other. And
Quirky and j and Jordan, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Husband, Ark. You hadn't met him yet.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Not at all. Corky and Mark had been putting the
routine together and they had an idea. Dance was a give,
so it's fun, it's you know, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Get waited for me. I hate give. But that Gie
was killer, really was great. I knew exactly that Shirley
and Kirky were involved when you did the windmill, that
this thing was it, this thing, this slappy thing where
you turn around that ship is not easy. Right right
then and there, I was like, this girl is on
all you might as well just give her the Mayor
Ball Trophy. And mind you, I was already out because
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I danced with the way Newton, who pulled out because
of walking pneumonia or because he was scared of me,
one of the two.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But well, I mean he probably any anyone that you
get probably has this. I've got to be the best.
You know, You've got such a legacy on the show.
You can't get a partner like you and think, yeah,
we're just gonna kick it, We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
See like I mean, there's the reality of the situation,
like Wayne, I mean or whatever. Anyways, back to you.
So okay, then, so you have so many competitive people
in one in one circle and one team, and then
you've got this shit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They wanted me to do something I didn't want to do.
They wanted Mark was gonna play like get down and
play like he was driving a car, and they wanted
me to kick him over and put a one up
in the area. What yeah, like he's l oh yeah,
like he's el e oh right, And they think, you know,
Quirky and Mark when they get together, are two hysterical people.
They're so funny. And when they think they're funny, they think,
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this is the only thing we can do. And I
just didn't want to. Now surely was out of town
during this time, and I just I really didn't want
to do that. I felt like already again the blogs
were saying I was this cocky, you know, I thought
I was so great. I'm not gonna say that I'm
gonna kick my opponent over and put a one finger
in the air. I don't feel like that was a
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nice thing to do. I think they thought it'd be funny.
I felt like it was going to be portrayed totally different,
and I just didn't want to do it, and I
kind of just stuck my ground. At some point, you
have to say no, I don't want to. I do
not want to do that, so can we please do
something else? So then it just kind of, you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Know, wish that you would have said that when they
asked you to put hip hop in your tacha.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, because I think it made the chacha stand out.
And I think really it ended up being fine. But
I was really worried about people, and I was in
I think as anticipating people not liking me because of
my experience of dancing. So I was worried about it.
But I loved it. It turned out great.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It was amazing. I had it was solid. You were amazing, Sabrina,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, it was fun. But anyway, so I got in
trouble the next week when't truly got back. She left
me have it. I got a surely vow why each
moment because she's like, you're not the teacher, And I said, surely,
I didn't not trying to be the teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But the producers asked you to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, they asked us to talk about it on the
show in our package this.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Quirky wanted to do this number one thing, the driving.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Quirky and Mark, they were in it. They were in
it to get it, and I just didn't want to.
And so obviously when it gets back to her, I
don't talk to Shirley on the phone, she's you know,
she's stepping in and just saying, you got to do
what they want you to do. And I said, I
understand that, surely, but at some point I've got to
be true to myself too, you know. And as scary
as it is to go against you right now, I
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didn't want to do it, and so we did it,
and I'm glad we didn't because I think that would
have really had a backlash. And you know, now after
years of or even a few years after Mark being
on the show, I don't think he would have ever
suggested that. You know, that was another first time season,
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you know, not knowing what kind of like you said,
now there's so much you guys know about the show
and how how the audience is going to react. I
don't think that he would have even probably suggested it,
or maybe he would have. He's he's still I'm sure,
very silly.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I'm also pretty sure I don't know how involved
they are, like what they were during his last season
or like previous seasons. But like you know, this is
a big no no in the production world of but
mind you, they all know, like they all know, we
go and get help, like either you're married to a
dancer and they help you, or your parents are dancers,
or like in my situation, none of the above.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It goes by so fast, Like you get done with
one episode and some people were back at this the
You have to be the back of the rehearsal studios
working on the next routine, whether the celebrity was there
or not. Usually the pros were there for at least
a couple hours working out what the next week was
going to be for them and their partner.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, you also had results shows, so we lost to day.
So we went straight from Tuesday's results show after a
full day prior to that, and then another day of
a show. I would stay up till god knows when,
and then we would go out and you know, get
schwayted every Monday night. So it's like I was just
on survival mode. But back to uh, back to you.
Was it hard for you too? Was it too many
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cooks in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No? I I loved any and all help. I mean
there was times where I remember you would give me.
You would start talking about something and you would kind
of start getting into the technique, and it was like
I felt like I was like this close to you,
please tell me more. I loved it Max, same thing, Max.
Like Max was like I remember he said something about
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my footwork and I said, what do you what do
you mean? He's like, you know, you don't You're you're
going from I don't really remember what it was, but
like you're going from toe to heel and needs to
be healed to toe and blah blah blah blah, I said.
And I remember going to my phone, pulling up my
YouTube video and going or not YouTube, but my video
of me doing the dance. I'm like, what part are
you talking about? I loved it. You guys were just
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these just knowledge. You had so much in this world
that I was falling in love with, and you guys
just would It was so awesome how you would just
give like advice. You know, we were all competing.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Remember when we would party and have slumber parties at
Palazzo and me and you would be so crazy, and
I was teaching you how to straighten your freaking legs
and how to distribute your weight from foot to foot.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yes, I remember that. I actually have You know, what's
funny when you say that when probably a video of it.
But I do have a video of Kim Johnson teaching
my husband. Now, we were just dating to do some
type of lift thing with me and she in your
but this was your big house in the hills, and
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it was. It's just so funny because he actually really
loves dancing too. He really loves learning, and how much
I did, because after the All Star season or after
our season, I went on tour then I was in Vegas. Yeah, yeah,
that's when Jordan and I were first getting to together,
and he was just around all these dancers who loved
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to teach him how to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It was so fun And who must love him in general?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh yeah, they do. They love the sweet man. Yeah,
he's awesome and he is. He's an athlete but has
and it is good. He's got rhythm. But it's just
so fun. I mean, our best friend James, you know,
big Big in the ballroom world, taught us are our
first dance. We have a full blown first dance that
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I didn't want to do. I wanted to sway. Jordan
wanted to learn a dance like a full I don't
know if James considered a foxtrotter or what, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I love that. Did you feel like with Mark since
it was his first season, he must have been so excited,
like there was also a lot of paparazzi. This was
like the height of Dancing with the stars. Did you
feel like you had to in a way hold his
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hand through it all? Like did he get did he
ever turned you for advice? Did you have to kind
of feel it It's okay, you're fear on TMZ looking
across sied, no Worri is going to go away the
next day.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, he really held it together, I'd say when it
comes to the paparazzi. His more questions and concerns was
him and Derek hattered their band and they were bringing
their band over from London, and so they I would say,
you know, that's not necessarily leaned, but definitely asked for
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advice on certain things. And my manager fell in love
with with Mark and Derek. It was obviously hard not to.
They were so excited, they were so talented, they had
so much to bring again, the d Huff band, no,
the Balas Huff band, Ballast.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It changed, like so many times, but yes.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, but yeah, so they they were really working on
their music. I think that's what they were really actually
wanting to do. They loved being on the show obviously,
but they were hoping that was gonna you know, project
their band and the opportunities for their band eventually. And
so my manager and I helped style them for do
you remember their first performance that I don't remember what
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club it was, but my manager and I helped a
lot with that, you know, just helping out and you know,
making sure press was going to be there and all
that kind of stuff to help them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Because they were before they had many reps.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, yeah, they were, yeah, exactly, And so you know,
at the time Melby's manager we were out with that season,
we were out with Melby a lot and her manager
started talking with Derek's. No, he was not their ex husband,
he was a manager. Aside from that, I think before
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I think that situation left before the ex husband started managing.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I think I don't know, but did did you and
Mark date? I knew you were going to do this?
It was such a who did you date? A bunch?
I don't want the list girl, but the sad no.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know what? We nothing never official, but we were
just again. We were It was like finding a new
best friend, you know, finding a buddy he again. Him
and Derek were so green, and we were together all
the time. You know, we would rehearse and we loved rehearsing.
We loved what we were doing. So after rehearsal studios,
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I know we weren't probably supposed to do this, but
we'd go in the the parking lot of Palazzo and
go through our stuff again if we felt like we
were you know, a lot of times he just wanted
everything to be perfect, not really necessarily always concerned about me,
but the choreography. So he was always trying to find
so you right, I did. I wanted it to be perfect,
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and especially after getting to know him and Derek so well.
I wanted this to be amazing for Mark and Derek
to have a great first season on the show. And
they's just won this season before right with the follow
So it was like they knew you could come in
for the first season and win. It wasn't something you
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had to work up too. If you had a good
partner and great, great material you could win, you could,
So that was their their goal. We were really really close. Again,
I wouldn't really consider it a relationship as much as
it was a friendship. We were together from you know,
we would go to rehearsals together because they lived in
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a different set of the build not buildings, but like
there's different lots side, so they yeah, they lived in
a different one. But he would either pick me up
or me and my girlfriend Stephanie that was there with
me everywhere we'd go pick up Mark and Derek. You know,
we'd all go together to the rehearsal studio once we
were done, So then we were you're eating lunch together
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in between your you know you're after then you're going
then you're doing fitting, so you're driving your you might
as well drive there together, you know, it all makes
sense to wear and we were the same age too.
It wasn't like there was a giant age gap there.
We were into the same thing. Music, dance, acting, you know, movies, everything.
And I would bring him down to Orange County to
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hang out with my friends on a day off, you know,
to just.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
A day off.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, well I just give it. At some point we
got off ended up having quite a bit of time off.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right, Let's just be real. Let's just be real. It
didn't take you too long to get these routines. Come on, no,
it did. I did.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I worked, I worked too many hours. But yeah, there's
just this this this uh, this bond that you create
and you also are your this is a goal that
you both want. It's not I feel really lucky to
have the pro who's on their first season, because again,
there was some pros where you could tell kind of
(33:53):
checked out. They didn't see themselves going very much, and
they checked out of the season. They just kind of
wanted to get as far as they could, you know,
not necessarily gunning for the trophy. And one hundred percent
Mark was gunning for that trophy. And I wanted nothing
more than to have him win his first season. It
would have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And so when you found out you got eliminated, what
was going through your mind? Were you shocked?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Did you know what was coming? Did you hear any
rumblings behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
No, not at all. And that's one thing I wish you.
I mean, I guess if you looked at the blogs, maybe,
But so when you ask, you asked earlier about why
I think happened. You know, after you as it's going on,
you're trying to get his money votes. But again, I
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was a cheetah girl. I was on the Disney Channel.
I didn't have I had a giant fan base, but not.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The same network and family.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right, so my fan base might have been tuning in,
but I'm not quite sure they were jumping on phones
and texting and voting, right, you know the way you
could vote. So I knew the only way I had
a shot was to get good scores. If I didn't
get good scores, I was pretty much. I mean, my
management team talked to me about this. You know, every
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one going into it talk to me about you know,
you hope to gain a fan base while you're on
the show, but at the same time, you're not going
in with one that watches the show. The demo of
season five was not little kids. It is now maybe,
but it was not young kids their parents, but it
was a lot older demo. The demo I think was
between like Steen sixty five was the main demo. They
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didn't know who I was, so I had to do
great routines and show my ability to get at least
good scores. So half of the bank was good and
trying to be as full as possible because there was
no guarantee I was going to get any votes, and.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Like, how about with like Sochi and Zendeya and all
those people, but.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They came so much later. Yeah, I was like one
of the first people again that yeah, that didn't I mean,
I think about think about our season. I had Melby
obviously huge, known everywhere worldwide. I had Marie Osmond talk
about right smack in the dab of that demo. I
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had Jane Seymour. I had Wayne Newton, I mean four alone.
Then you got Elio, which the demo watches the same
indie car. I didn't have anyone looking for a cheetah girl.
No one was looking for a cheeta girl other than.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That, do you believe? Like, do you is there any
do you have any regrets on any during that experience
with Mark or what is the biggest lesson you've learned
through this experience.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I feel like the biggest lesson I feel like was
I wish I had taken pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Was there such a thing?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
No, there's not. I wish I had taken more pictures.
I think as far as how much I really put
a lot of effort into trying to get to know
the cast. Yeah, it's a big thing. I knew being
around being in a makeup trailer with Jane Seymour and
Marie Osmond. I would ask them about stories anything, and
they love telling them, which is amazing. They're both great storytellers.
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I didn't get to know Wayne that much then, but
we went on tour right after, and that's when I
really got to know him, his wife, his daughter, his
sister in law, Tricia, who's still one of my really
good friends. But you know, at that time, I just
I think I wish I would have taken more moments
(37:45):
to soak in. Instead, I was go, go, go, go, go,
go go go. You know, I was still working the
Cheetah Girls. We were flying to do Good Morning America
because the second movie was coming out. You know, we
were doing a lot of stuff, and I feel like
within all of my career, I was so young and
I was just going, and I did not stop and
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really soak in as much as I feel like I
could have, you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Know, right to present now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't feel like I was as present, you know,
like you said, we were we were dancing, Hey, we
were partying at night. We were going I pre red
carpet that was out there sometimes to a night you know,
just go go, go versus you know. I know at
that time I would go to red carpets and then leave.
I wouldn't even stay to watch the movie. Sometimes. First
(38:34):
of all, what a jerk move, but so rude. I
hate that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So you were busy, I was busy.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And it was I wanted to go. Obviously you want
to do the red carpet thing, but I didn't. I
didn't realize, like you're at this premiere, go watch the
movie for the first time for the audience. Like I
didn't do all that. It wasn't often that. I don't
want it to sound like.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It was always You're fine. I don't think you're the
only one though. Put it that way, Yes, move on,
to also was really quick, did you Yeah? So how
was that process? Because like, okay, so I danced with
Emma Smith because he said I will only do All
Stars if I dance with Cheryl, and then.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I for that and smart.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I had Jill Marini on there as well, danced with Pete.
I had Drew Liche dancing with Anya Trebunskaya and it
was odd right, like, and I know that you were
paired with Louis and Marks with Bristol.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Bristol, I believe had said she wouldn't do the show
unless she got mark.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So then when they mamasked you, did they tell you
this that you weren't going to get marked? Do you
remember how I got on the show on All Stars? Yeah, no,
they didn't ask me. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Girl? I had to go through like a whole political
campaign to get on the show. Okay, so they they did.
They set their cast at twelve. And I remember I
was doing the Vegas show with Joe at the Traffic.
It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I was there for the opening and that was yeah, yeah,
and it really didn't ever stop being at that bar,
like of.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Just fun we had. It was awesome because we got
to have different pros come in and do you know,
just a couple of weeks or whatever. It was really fun.
The show was always changing and evolving with new people,
but there were staples of it that were there. It
was Me, Joey Fatone, Kyle Massey, and Carson Kressley. No,
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Kim didn't come all. Kim wasn't always on it. Okay, no,
because Joey had a different partner that Kim would come
in and do. Kim did it a couple of times,
but she would come in and do Joey's partner stuff
some of it. So anyways, Joey gets the call and
I'll remember I was in I was in swims, lacy swimmers. Sorry,
I was in lacy swimmers and I were We were
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in the dressing room and Joey comes in and he's like, dude,
did you hear they're doing an all star cast or
an all star show? And I was like, no way
because they had never done it before. And I'm like no,
and he's like, yeah, Dina just called me and asked
me to be on it. And I was like no,
hell that I remember, I had my phone was on
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the stage from then on, waiting and brain but it
seemed like everyone that was being called back to the
show was finalists, and I remember crying to my manager, going,
there's just no way. I'm never going to get a
spot there. Everyone. There's Drew's on it. Now, there's Emmitt
(41:30):
Smith that I heard is on it because I had
talked to you. There's all these people. I'm like, there's
just no way. Dina calls me and I'll remember her phone.
Her name comes up in my phone and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm shaking and she's She goes, hey,
so we're doing an all star cast or an all
star season. I said, oh yeah. I was like, and
my voice was so tight, Oh yeah. Really, She's like, yeah,
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So twelve of the celebrities have been placed, but we're
looking for a thirteenth person. Okay, what we wanted to
do is a big campaign. We wanted we want to
get people really involved before the show even starts. So
what we're going to do is we're going to get
three celebrities to kind of do kid out and I go,
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are we going to come dance? And she said, no,
We're gonna just put your guys's name up. You guys
are going to have a voting between the three of
you to get that thirteenth spot.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
WHOA wait, I don't remember any of this.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
It was like, wait, so that public voted.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
It was a huge campaign campaign going up it against
It was Carson, it was everyone.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I was on the show with Vegas, well Kyle.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
And me, Oh, you would have won, hands down, you
would win.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Carson is so funny. And Kyle made the finals.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That's true, but they would have already asked him if
that was the case.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Huh that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And then it was lazy. It was lazy upset.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
She had not gotten she had not gotten a call
to be on the All Stars season. So then but
that also meant the Traumpa Caana show was also possibly extending,
and so she knew she would still be working at
the Trap and extending the show. So then it was
they came up. We each did these commercials of why
you should vote. I look like a politicians secretary. I
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did not really look like a politician, but I didn't.
You know, we do this whole campaign, and I had.
We had we did a Good Morning America thing like
they were doing a big press leaning up to the
All stars for people to start already getting involved in
the show. It's brilliant. It's an amazing night. Yeah, I
just wish I didn't.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
How many votes did you win by? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I don't know, but I started legitimately campaigning. I did
all these videos I started. We had. There was this
group called Team Sabrina that tried to petition to get
me put back on the show.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Originally, but I'm still one of the most and I
say this in my intro again is one of the
most shocking still to this day, like it is still shocking.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I I will say it was amazing that it happened
because I would have never known the incredible team of
you know, the audience members, the fans out there. I
would have never known how incredible they were and how supportive.
So they got on the ball that I swear it
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was Team Sabrina that got me on the show. Dina
said the votes were incredible, and they were from the
very first day in an ability to vote, they were saying.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
This is why I think you got eliminated. I know
you're not asking me, but I'm going to say it anyway.
I would like, I don't think it's your fan base
at all. I think it's the fact that people already
thought you were going to be safe, so why waste
votes on someone who's going to be safe?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
For Caryl, I will tell you right now, I remember
being out that night, and that's the exact word you
told me. You literally said the same thing. And also
it's consistent better. It does not feel better, but it
does makes.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You feel better because you know why, then you're you're
basically insinuating that you didn't have enough fans that voted,
and that's not true. Like you have that crew of
people that also got you a part of All Stars,
Like you still have your fan base like personally for you,
So that should make you feel better if you chance
to change your perspective a little totally.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And and you know, but I will say it put,
I don't feel like I enjoyed the second seat my
second season, the All Star season anymore as much because
I felt like I had so much pressure.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Coming from Louis No.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
No, Louie was amazing. I mean, I got lucky with
two incredible teachers. I learned so much, so many different
things from each of them. But I just had so
much pressure to be great for the fans that did
get me on the show. I didn't get asked to
be on it. I was voted on, and it just
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I had. So I was so tired that whole season
because I would I couldn't sleep. I was just really
just nervous that I wasn't going to live up to
this expectation that I had set in season five. You know,
if you.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Set that expectation up by yourself, though, Like, do you
really believe that the fans, your fans expected you to
be perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I don't think they expected me to be perfect, but
they expected me to come out and dance the way
I danced in season five, and I was you were
better ten years older I was. I did have a
lot more on under my belt. I will say at
that point I did know a lot more about the
ballroom and chat chas.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
And you also just came from a Vegas show, and
you came from a Vegas show.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But the Vegas show, even with even the way they
treat celebrities no matter what, like when you go on
the road, like they're not like harping you about your
technique or anything crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You're like literally you're around it.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And like I said, I wanted to know everything I
didn't get to do, you know, a botch kata in
my any of my routines. And I remember that was
my like thing in the finale part of the Vegas Show,
that I would sit on the side and go and
turn and turn and turn.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
My god freaking Louis so funny.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So yeah, okay, it was amazing. I do have to
make sure everyone knows how much I loved working with Louis.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, he's I mean, he loved dancing with you. You
remind me of his partner Julie Fryer. Did you ever
say that to you?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
My last dance, my rumbo was him and Julie's okay
dance they did.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'm gonna drop the mic. That is such bullshit, don't know,
don't you rational routine?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So yeah, I'm telling you it was this.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
It was right there that you are more than qualified.
I just did a world champion's routine. No worries, We'll
tell me the pressure.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
This is like his.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Everyone there's no one else is at your level like
no one else has been and will or ever will be.
I'm not giving Emmett Smith my professional routine I did
with this guy named Jose de camps, Derek's not giving
Nicole Scherzigger his refuse so good. No, this shit is crazy.
I just want you to know that you are amazing, and.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
So is Sean Johnson. That she was on the off
Star season, so Sean Johnson was amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
But like I just you are amazing. I want you
to know that that you are beyond like as far
as technical ability, performance wise, like everything, Sabrina, I want
you to know you couldn't do any better than you did,
regardless of the results. Thank you, period, thank you, rapid
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fire quickly, Oh God. Pro Partner edition. Mark Ballace versus
Louis van Amstell. How would you compare Louie's teaching style
versus Marx.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Louis was very intricate and went slowly to where like
he wouldn't move past the step until I did it
like perfectly. Mark was He was a lot faster. I
had to keep up with him. Then he would go
back and we would do it again. You know what
I mean? It was it was a different totally different style,
different pace. I liked both of them though. It was cool.
(49:35):
It was it was awesome to be taught two different ways.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Did you feel like they both wanted to collaborate with
you collaborate mm hmm. It was one more open to
collaborate than the other or No. I feel they.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Both if they would ask me questions and stuff, but
my answer was always I want to do what you
think is best. So they both probably stopped at some
point because they knew I just wanted to do what
they wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Who was the better teacher? Oh oh, No, one's listening
to this story.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Just no, one's listening to this. You know what, I
don't think I could. I think for at each time
they were perfect for me. I think Louis would have
probably bored me when I was younger as far as
that pace, Yeah, yeah, But had Mark done that to
me when I was older, I probably would have gone irritated.
So they were like perfect from they were you know
(50:26):
what I mean? They were perfect for the time of
when I was on the show.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
For sure, what did you have the most chemistry with
on the floor and off the floor?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know, I would normally obviously say Mark at that time,
but then I just recently after when I got the
call for this, watched Louie and Eyes RAHMBA, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Oh, that I think I think Louis for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, he seems so great. I love my Cinderella danced
with him that well. It was so fun and I've
never felt so I felt as beautiful there as I
did on my way day.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I mean, honestly, you guys really complimented each other both
as for Louie as well. Who had the best lead?
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Ooh? I think Louis did because I was a better
what's it follow? Yeah, I was a better follower with
with Mark, just I knew.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Different different schools of training too. I don't think sure
I knew.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
The photography I went in as a dancer like a
hip hop dancer, the background I had in the season
five versus my All Star season I had learned and
watched so much more of being led. I did not
know how to be led with with Mark, so I
just did the steps on the counts and the accents
and the music, where with Louis he could have walked
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me through that dance with any song. It wouldn't have mattered.
He really was able to guide me. But it's because
I let him, so I was probably my fault, I
mean not probably, it was.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
My I think that's why you had more power in
all fairness here, when it comes to your movement, in
the quality of movement, there was more power and dynamic
because that's what you do. I mean, I see. There's
different ways of thinking, right Like for me, I was
coached by someone who only who would stop dancing with
me if I didn't follow his lead. So it's like
it's a different way of thinking, but not one is
better than the other. However, when it comes to execution,
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I prefer that style more. Yeah, just so, just to
be clear, really quick, Rapid Fire Cheetah Girl Edition, what
was if the Chetah Girls?
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (52:28):
First, if the Cheetah Girls were to reunite for one
more project, what would it be? And are you guys reuniting?
That's two questions, by the way, Yes, that is rapid Fire,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I think that the Cheetah Girls would most likely do
a movie, and I feel like there's hints out there
that there's something going on. What I would really love
to do is a reunion show. I would love to
get on a stage and kill it again with my
girls that we were so many girls first concert back
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in the day, and I would love to go and
reenact our stage work and have them bring their kids,
because one of those girls now have kids, and that
would be my dream. I'm not sure if that will
ever happen. I would be a hundred percent down if
that ever came up.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
So you guys are reuniting.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I don't know, honestly, it's all I think it's out there.
It's finally out there. There was complete silence, crickets everywhere.
Now there's a rumbling, so.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Truth to the rumblings.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, it's actually finally like within the world of you know,
behind the scenes stuff, it's actually rumbling and steps they
think are starting to possibly happen. Nothing's been Greenland. I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, all right, good to know good. What's the most
significant challenge you all face together as a group back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I think, you know, one thing that was really tough
was Keilee, Adrian and I were touring. We were together
all the time doing Cheetah girl stuff. Raven was doing
that so Raven, so it was kind of a separation.
So I think the second movie was a little tough
behind the scenes. I don't think you see it portrayed
on camera at all, but you think, you know, we
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were young, we were really young. We were early twenties.
I think we could have been more cognizant of what
we were, what we should have done before we even
went to Barcelona, to make sure when we were there
that wasn't a vibe, you know, And that goes to
show maturity levels.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And what happened in Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Nothing happened in Nothing happened in Barcelona, but just it
wasn't like she was in an apartment. We were in
a hotel. You know, we were separate, so she was
a little bit of way, so we would have a car.
Nothing was done on purpose in any sense. It just
was not the four of us the way the first
movie was. And I wish we would have either fought
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to have her come to the hotel or for us
to have an apartment where she was, because that alone
before and after you're on set, the time away from
it is really what bonds you as actors and friends,
and we had that in the first movie and we didn't.
So I feel like I wish we would have been
a little bit more deliberate of it's the four of
us and we need to be together, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I wish we were going to do this next time around.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I mean, they can come hang out with my kids,
you know, if they want to know what real crazy is.
But yeah, you know, one of the things when I
was on the season was going to the Spice Girl.
Do you remember going to the Spice Girls reunion show
and we walked backstage and they had a specific room
where all their kids and nanny's were playing. They had
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like a playroom.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, like a green room for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, that's my dream. Like, how amazing would that be.
Everyone's got their own buses, your family's on tour, and
you've got green rooms that like the kids just go
nuts and learn to be friends and everything as well.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
We don't even have time for any fan questions, which
is a shame. But I love you.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
I'll come back on.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Okay, good, thank you. See it wasn't that bad, was it.
It wasn't I mean you you You basically interviewed yourself.
So okay, seriously, though, do you love the podcast? Please promote?
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yes, I am doing a podcast called Magical Rewind. If
you are a Disney lover, and especially a Disney Channel lover,
you're gonna love it. It's every single week. I'm literally
going to do the next episode right after this. It
is about we rewatched the Disney Channel original movies. These
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movies are so good or so funny or miss the mark,
and there's.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Like really like life lessons, right.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
They are life lessons. We also do Wonderful World of
Disney movie as well, which are they go back even farther.
They're not always available, so we have a hard time
reaching for those, but it's so fun to rewatch those
movies now as an adult and just have a night
of like nostalgia. You think of who your crush was
(57:15):
at that time and how you thought that was like
just like that the main actor, or you think of
your friends watching it.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
I love you, Sabrina, thank you so much for doing this,
And I'm going to check out her podcast. Where can
people find your podcast really quick? It's obviously on I
Hurt Radio where you listen to podcasts, shit.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Where you listen to podcasts it is, And we're also
on Instagra, Instagram called the Magical rewind Odd and you
can find me on Sabrina dot Brian and yes, it's
so fun and we do fun interviews with the actors too.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
I know you have to go, but I saw this
video with you hanging out with Demi Lovado, the Jonas Brothers,
like there was like all you today, that was creat
You guys were in the bathroom. You guys were like.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
That was at the you Yeah, the Jonas Brothers actually,
which is so crazy to think. On our Cheetah Girl
Christmas tour, you know, we had a bus are opening
act Ali and aj they had a bus. Jonas Brothers
was their opening act and they were running. If you
ever look at their documentary, they used to ride around
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in this twelve passenger van. That's what they drove around
behind our buses. In the Jonas Brothers they were opening
opening act. And then by the time we saw them
after Camp Rock, they were like megastars, just megastars, and
it was.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Do you still keep in touch with them?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
No? Not really. I saw Joe at I think it
was your birthday party years ago, like a couple years ago,
and that's why did I saw him? Yeah? Yeah, and
he was so sweet still, such a sweet guy. The
whole family, the whole family.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, I love you, Sabrina, go get ready you podcast
to the podcasts.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
We're done now. It feels like we had coffee this morning.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Seriously, but they're still like so much to talk about.
But we'll continue TVD on camera. Yeah yeah, I love you,
thank you too, Bye bye. I just want to thank
you all so much for listening, and since you guys
have been loving the podcast so much, especially when I
do recaps of past seasons, we decided to make it
a series. So make sure to not only listen every
Mondays for the interview portion, but now you can look
(59:20):
forward to listening to an all new rewatch recap series
here on sex Lives and Spray Tands every Wednesdays, along
with another weekly episode of Headlines and Hot Topics. That's
three full episodes of sex Lizes and Spray Hands that
drop every single week, so make sure to listen so
you can get your fix of all things DWT has related.
Love you guys so much, until next time,
This is Sex Lies and Spray Tans with Me Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio podcast. Hey guys, welcome back to Sex
Livees and Spray Tans. My next guest is known for
her role in The Cheetah Girls. Is a woman who
I am lucky enough to call a friend and someone
who I became very close to, especially during our time
on the show together and on the DWTS tour. She
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was someone I confided in knowing that what I had
experienced during my early DWTS days of being in the
public eye was something she already had experienced herself. I
will forever be grateful to my next guest for holding
my hand through the public scrutiny I was facing at
that time, as she was definitely someone I was able
to lean and depend on through the chaos, but also
the fun and more importantly, the memories and friendship that
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we had established back then, which is something I will
cherish forever. My next guest competed during season five of
Dancing with the Stars, and her time on the show
will definitely go down in history as one of the
most shocking eliminations in all thirty two seasons. Let's give
a warm Welcome to my friend, the beautiful and talented
why life and mother of two, Sabrina Brian to the podcast.
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Welcome to Sex, Lies and Spray Tan Sabrina Brian. Holy crap,
people are excited about this, you know?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Really?
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Yeah? You got a lot of views on my igs
aka Instagram stories.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
That's a new one. I think I'm gonna have to
drop that one down. Jot it down.
Speaker 1 (01:22):
Everything's an abbreviation. How are you?
Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm so good? How are you? You look beautiful? Thank
you so much.
Speaker 1 (01:30):
Girl.
Speaker 3 (01:30):
I'm like I want to just grab you through this screen.
I wish we could have done this in person.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Maybe next time, yeah, for sure, because I don't think
we're going to get through all my questions. So speaking
of first of all, thank you for doing this. Second
of all, who is Sabrina Brian? Behind all the fame,
the fortune, everything? Thank you? Who are you?
Speaker 2 (01:50):
Who am I?
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Oh gosh, behind closed doors?
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Now I'm a mom and loving that. I feel like
I'm living all of my dreams out with my little girl.
I've always wanted to be a boy mom. I've loved
being a girl mom. She is a complete replica of me,
so that's scary. She is she's so sassy, but she's
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hilarious and she's sweet. She's but man, she keeps me
on my toes. She says things every single day. Yesterday,
you know what she told me. She was looking. I
just put some new larings and she was looking in
the mirror. Mommy, she's three. Okay, she's three, Mommy, I
love them. Then she pulls up her belly her little
shirt and goes, I think I want one right here.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Her belly button.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
I said what. She goes, yeah, and one of our
sitters has one, and so she said, I want one
like her. I knew these kinds of things.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
You know, I still have a whole permanent hole. I
just show her what happens when you don't give any mommies.
She rule after to babies. It's no longer a hole.
It's like a slit. It's not cute, and it's there forever.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Every time I get a spray's hand, it's a little darker.
I gotta like, like, it's just it's so ugly. It's
so ugly. It's so ugly. It's it's not huge, it's
just it's just not cute, and you'll just always know
that there was one there I, it's not like a
I heard nose rings go away, you know, like thees nowadays. Yeah,
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it's not like that. There's nothing you can do about it.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's some extra skin and cover I have, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
And you start thinking about things that you'll eventually have,
like those talks. But for her they come so early.
Why were we talking about this when you're theree.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
At least she can come to you and talk about it.
You know, I would never true. I pierced my own
ear like I was such a rebel, Like it was
a dare and I wanted to be in this friend group. Anyway,
that's for another podcast. So what is what do you
think people's biggest misconception is about you? Sabrina?
Speaker 2 (04:04):
Wow, it depends what we're talking about. So I feel like,
you know, maybe Cheetah Girls wise, they thought I was
a little bit more squeaky clean than I was, you know,
which I'm glad that I did a good job because
I feel like with that role it was important for
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you know, when I was I was in college during
Cheetah Girls. If I had a red solo cup at
any kind of college party, and so someone tried to
take a picture of me, I would just throw it.
I just would not want any kind of because I
just felt it was very important being a part of
the Disney Channel. I was really particular. But I think
now they would think I was a little bit more
squeaky clean than I was when it comes to Dancing
(04:49):
with the Stars. I don't know if it's necessarily a misconception.
I was really you remember, well, I don't know if
you remember. I was just really intense. I had an
intense partner who had a whole family, who was intense
into the show and wanting to do well and to partner.
The second time wasn't as much, I don't think, but
that first time, I feel I came across a little
(05:13):
bit more. This is true, I came across a little
bit more arrogant than I actually am. I'm very competitive,
but it wasn't as arrogant as I feel like some
of those the packages sort of showed. I was nervous
and freaked out. You know, shed a tear probably before
every single show because I was so nervous that I
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was going to make a mistake. I've been performing for
a long time, but never on that kind of level.
And so yeah, I think that that arrogance might have
just been kind of what I like, just sucking it
up and holding my breath, you know, or you know,
things that I might have said. I don't know. I
feel like I look at how your season a little
(05:57):
bit more arrogant than I ever was. I was freaking
out every week. Every week I thought I was going home.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But arrogance, so like, is this a thing that you
are telling yourself or you mean that that is what
people you believe thought of you.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
So back at season five, which was in seventeen sixty four,
with the show that was the very maybe not the
first season. I don't know. Maybe you could tell me.
When they had those chat boards online on ABC dot com.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
It was there from the beginning? Was it there from
the same boards? Those message boards? Yes, okay, toxic but
it was.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Yes, but it was very new in the world. You know.
I had never experienced, well, at least for me. I
guess maybe I should just say it was new for me.
I had never experienced that with the Cheatah girls, you know,
I just really no if they were it was all
love and you know, again.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
There were still message boards.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
I don't remember there being cheatagirl message boards that I
knew life, so the show was kind of my first,
right and so I read them or my manager would
read them, or Mark would read them. Mark really took
a lot of stuff to heart. But just it was
from that, you know, just you know, she just thinks
(07:14):
she's so great, or you know, she she doesn't deserve
to be here because she's a dancer, you know, those
kinds of things, And it was like very hard, you know,
I was still pretty young. It was twenty two or
twenty three when I did the show. And again I
went on because my mom loved the show, and I
went to the not the finale night, but I went
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to the previous season and saw it and was wowed
by the production, the you know, that competitive intensity, the energy.
I loved all of it, and I knew it would
mean so much to my mom. So that's that's where
I why even went on it and then.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
Never went on it because you wanted to do it.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
No, I wanted to. I never knew wanted sho. Okay,
but this is how this show came into my life.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would come home to my parents' house from LA
when I was living in LA and if it was
on a Monday or Tuesday night, they were in front
of the TV with their little like TV dinner trays.
My mom and dad would have a notepad their dinner,
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a notepad PA to make notes of their thoughts of
each of the routines, and they would give their own
scores and see they were trying to see if they
could get you know, lens score. They always wanted to
see how close they could figure out, if they could
figure out the technique, because again, ballroom was in nowhere
of my life. I had never done.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Really anything anything. I think I did some swing dancing
type of thing, you mean, partner dancing, But you had
dance before obviously.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
Yes, but this style I mean you're talking tap, jazz, ballet,
hip hop.
Speaker 1 (08:57):
No, no, I don't know it actually helps you, I
think too. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
I think the perception of what you should be able
to do when now so you think you can dance
has also blurred the lines because so many of those
dancers will now be on the show or you know,
or now dancing with the stars as contemporary routines. You know,
all that has kind of blurred. But back at season five,
it was very I feel, looking at it, it was
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a lot more to the book of what the dances
were supposed.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
To technoi yeah, which I think should still be that way,
but that's just me because that's what separated the show
from so you think you can dance absolutely world of Dance,
all these dance shows. That's what made it unique. But yes, yeah, everything.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I mean I remember learning to do the quick step
and the choreography being made and it had to flow
to like all the there was all these different things,
and I loved learning that. It was so cool to
me that to learn all these rules, all the dancing
(10:03):
I had there were no rules, there was just you
just got out there and there was styles this, there
was specific colds thing you know, things that landed so
much of I loved. I loved getting his critiques anyway,
So back to my parents loved it. So for Mother's Day,
I called my agent and I said, is there any
way I could maybe get into go to a live
(10:25):
taping for a Mother's Day gift? I'd love to do
that for my mom, and my agent truly goes, it's
so crazy you're calling me, because Dina Katz from Dancing
the Stars just called and asked if you'd be interested
in coming to a show to see if you want
to do next season, And I was like, okay, I
mean I'll go check it out. I really this is
(10:46):
really just about like wanting to get my mom live
at the show and she's like okay. It took me
maybe one from the beginning to maybe one commercial break
to be like, I'm in what do I need to
do to get me on this show? I'm so this
show is amazing. I loved it. I really did. So.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
You realize that you were the first dancer to come
on the show.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Right, Mario Lopez wasn't considered a dancer.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
He was a living but.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
I didn't dance.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
Well he was on say, I got right, right, right,
right right, But that's I believe that's I'm not saying
this to tack you or anything like that. I'm saying
because that's probably was a shock to the fans.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
I went out just being myself, and I remember Joey
Fatone telling me when we started hanging out, you really
screwed up. You came out of the gates like flying,
and you should have probably held it back and got better.
Speaker 1 (11:47):
And first of all, how can you do that, like
as a performer, I still can't do that to this don't.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
Have it on and off button with that when it
comes to that.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Done, you're not being your authentic, organic, vulnerable self, which
is what gets you through.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Like you were, absolutely but I also would have now
hated every video that I saw. Now I can look
at my cha cha the very first thing I got
to do on the show. And I don't know how
technically great it was.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
I just watched it.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
I loved every aspect of that routine. I love that
I have these videos that I get to now show
my daughter. At one point, you know, look at mommy.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
Look at mommy when she starts killing it, backing at
me with from her dance stuff.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
I'll be like, let me just show you a video
straight lockstep legs. Look at those locksteps, chacha cha. You
know like you were killing it.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Thank you, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
Let's rewind here a little bit. Okay, So you were
Mark Ballas's first partner, right, Yeah. Did Dina Katz ask
you like, did you want to dance with someone in specific?
Or was this was kind of like a you want
to do it? Great, okay, let's do this. Did you
tell her you had dance experience?
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Yes? I that was in because you know you go
to this interview and you meet all of the producers
and Dina's there as well, and they have a bunch
of questions that you sit down and talk to them about.
And I told them about my dance experience. I said,
but I've I don't even know what ballroom is, to
be honest, I think I've seen a few videos and
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I've been to the show once. Now that's all I know.
It's literally where it starts and ends. But I have
done obviously with the Cheetah Girls. I'm the dancer in
the group. You know, my character is, and I know
how to dance, I know how to move. But I said,
I really would love to learn this new style and
see if I can do it. It would be awesome.
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I if anything, ballet was the worst. So ballroom scared
the crap out of me. I was asking them, is
there any chance that that waltz thing could maybe be
not on my list of things to do?
Speaker 1 (13:46):
Because you said to her, I don't think I could
do that at.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
All, you know. But so they asked me that, And
then when it came to partners, they said, do you
have any partners that you you know, really are And
I said, Honestly, the only ones I pay attention to
are the girl ones. I love Sheryl, Julianne looks great.
You know, I don't really pay attention to the guy ones.
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And I don't know anyone enough. Please just give me
somebody who you know, really wants to take on, somebody
who wants to learn. Like that's it.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
What were your first I guess impressions because Mark, I'll
never forget when Mark and Derek, you know, it was
their first season. They are in they you know, they're
coming out with me if seven nights a week. They're
like my two like security guards and little tiny tank tops.
You know, they were boys. They were boys, Like they
were so young and little, and you know they obviously
knew like, oh I was the girl that just like
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had a great time and also had success on this
show and like it was a whole thing. And mind you,
I knew them from but not right, not well. But
I did take I got coaching from Shirley. I went
to Julianne's tenth birthday at Shirley Ballas's house in England.
Like it's just it's a whole mix. But I never
got to know them until they started Dancing with the Stars.
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Who were your first impressions of Mark ballas, Oh.
Speaker 2 (15:15):
He what I love still looking back to this day.
He was so excited to be on the show. I
mean he some of the pros. By season five, you
guys were all comfortable. You were all good. Really yeah,
you guys the only time And it wasn't until the
(15:35):
end of the season that I realized what all of
you go through as far as wondering and not knowing
about whether you'll be on the next season.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
Right, and then we also had tours in between. We
didn't have a day off.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
Yes you had you had a tour, yes, and so
it was it was a lot, but you guys seemed
like you found your group. You were excited about it.
It was different from what you all grew up doing
from the time you started walking. And it was and
this came with, you know, a fame, It came with notoriety.
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We could get into hide like you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It was just there was.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So much that you guys seem so comfortable. And Mark
came with this just energy of the way he is.
He's so competitive and if he's gonna do something, he's
gonna kill it, Like it's gonna be. He's going to
put everything in it. He has two parents that have
raised him to go for gold or don't do it
at all, you know what I mean. I mean? And
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they it was fun to get to know them. They
were the amount of instruments that him and Derek can play,
you know, the the amount of plays they've done and
acting and they're surely I imagine Shirley back in the day
when they were little.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Shirley's Mark's mother.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Shirley's Mark's mom, and I have this this this visual
is because of the pictures that Shirley's shown me of
Mark and Derek and their little uniforms school just so cute.
Speaker 1 (17:04):
It's like that it.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Looks like that book Madeline when you were little. Yes,
I know what they look like.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Swear to God their own bodies.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Yes, And I feel like, you know, Mark sitting at
a table and maybe just doodling, and truly looks over
his shoulder and goes, oh, you like to doodle, And
then she's like, hey, Oscar and has like the most
professional doodler of the world, ready to train him in
being the best doodler. Like she was just that mom,
I was.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
She was a dance mom, but on all levels. Yeah,
not in a bad way at.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Great, this is what you're gonna do. How amazing is that? Like?
Speaker 1 (17:44):
How much does she help you a ton? I tell
you totally had Shirley's style, like you like to tell
from your leg action that Charlie Ballast was straight up
in your business.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yes, and the egg and the flip, I mean that
that is a Shirley ballace.
Speaker 1 (18:02):
It's just a perfect way I made sure ballroom arms.
How about Quirky? How did how much was Quirky Ballast involved?
Speaker 2 (18:08):
The Corky and Shirley were both in and out of
La Quirky. I think had actually gotten an apartment as
well as Shirley's, but they were in and out. They're
both working a ton, so it kind of depended on
what day of what week we would get them. But also,
you know Mark not knowing a lot of people, nor Derek,
it was nice for them to have family there, you
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know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
It's like out help since my last day on the show, Like,
oh for sure, I.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Know from all the pros on the show that I
know when I'm close within love, they all do they
are all these these are these are the things I'm
really good at, and these are the things I'm not
so great out. So this is why I pull in
someone and I think that's awesome.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
So was it ever like at a at a cross roads?
Speaker 2 (18:50):
A little bit?
Speaker 1 (18:51):
Because I'm sure you collaborated. I'm sure you wanted to
also have your input, which is not normal.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
No. And as a matter of fact, they.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
You're like hip hop section in the Chasha. You didn't.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
I did not want any part of that, I said,
But it didn't collaborate, but they didn't need to. It
wasn't like the way the package is. No, I don't
love that, because the way the package is is like,
oh here, now I'm going to teach you. No, that's
not how I was. I was like, I don't want
to waste four counts of eight on the hip hop?
Can we do more? Cha cha?
Speaker 1 (19:22):
Who's they who forced you?
Speaker 2 (19:24):
The producer? Like everyone around like, hey, Sabrina, don't you
want to do something like this? Don't you want to
put some hip hop? And then you know Mark had
hip hop experience as well, and so he was totally
down and wanting to do it, and I said, okay, Mark,
let's do some hip hop. Teach me and they're like, no, Sabrina,
you're the hip hop dancer, and I didn't want to teach.
Speaker 1 (19:43):
I know why they did this. They needed a story
in your package because they say, would your story be
of you just like being amazing? Like that's there's no story, right.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
Yeah, but it to me was a downfall because it
made it look like I was trying to take over
and that just wasn't the case.
Speaker 1 (19:57):
Do you think that's the reason why you got voted
off way too early? I think that, like the public,
when these packages keeps saying it are vital, they are
important than your freaking dance. Okay, So it's like at
the end of the day, that's what I mean, like
knowing what I know now, it's like what what comes
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out of your mouth? You got to think about the edit, right.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
It was more frustrating when it was an edit that
was given to you, like that was given to you
when you were not even wanting to say that or
talk about it. Things happened in the rehearsal studio, and
there's there's one on week three where him and I
were really frustrated, and a lot of it had to
do with him putting the routine together and I got
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frustrated because the week before Elio kash Novas, who was
with Juliana or Julian, he beat us our score, he
beat the score that we got that week before, and
so then it was they would instantly We're only on
week three, instantly their pit us against each other. And
Quirky and j and Jordan, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
Husband, Ark. You hadn't met him yet.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Not at all. Corky and Mark had been putting the
routine together and they had an idea. Dance was a give,
so it's fun, it's you know, and I.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Get waited for me. I hate give. But that Gie
was killer, really was great. I knew exactly that Shirley
and Kirky were involved when you did the windmill, that
this thing was it, this thing, this slappy thing where
you turn around that ship is not easy. Right right
then and there, I was like, this girl is on
all you might as well just give her the Mayor
Ball Trophy. And mind you, I was already out because
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I danced with the way Newton, who pulled out because
of walking pneumonia or because he was scared of me,
one of the two.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
But well, I mean he probably any anyone that you
get probably has this. I've got to be the best.
You know, You've got such a legacy on the show.
You can't get a partner like you and think, yeah,
we're just gonna kick it, We're gonna.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
See like I mean, there's the reality of the situation,
like Wayne, I mean or whatever. Anyways, back to you.
So okay, then, so you have so many competitive people
in one in one circle and one team, and then
you've got this shit.
Speaker 2 (22:15):
They wanted me to do something I didn't want to do.
They wanted Mark was gonna play like get down and
play like he was driving a car, and they wanted
me to kick him over and put a one up
in the area. What yeah, like he's l oh yeah,
like he's el e oh right, And they think, you know,
Quirky and Mark when they get together, are two hysterical people.
They're so funny. And when they think they're funny, they think,
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this is the only thing we can do. And I
just didn't want to. Now surely was out of town
during this time, and I just I really didn't want
to do that. I felt like already again the blogs
were saying I was this cocky, you know, I thought
I was so great. I'm not gonna say that I'm
gonna kick my opponent over and put a one finger
in the air. I don't feel like that was a
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nice thing to do. I think they thought it'd be funny.
I felt like it was going to be portrayed totally different,
and I just didn't want to do it, and I
kind of just stuck my ground. At some point, you
have to say no, I don't want to. I do
not want to do that, so can we please do
something else? So then it just kind of, you.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
Know, wish that you would have said that when they
asked you to put hip hop in your tacha.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
No, because I think it made the chacha stand out.
And I think really it ended up being fine. But
I was really worried about people, and I was in
I think as anticipating people not liking me because of
my experience of dancing. So I was worried about it.
But I loved it. It turned out great.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
It was amazing. I had it was solid. You were amazing, Sabrina,
thank you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
No, it was fun. But anyway, so I got in
trouble the next week when't truly got back. She left
me have it. I got a surely vow why each
moment because she's like, you're not the teacher, And I said, surely,
I didn't not trying to be the teacher.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
But the producers asked you to do that.
Speaker 2 (24:01):
Well, they asked us to talk about it on the
show in our package this.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
Quirky wanted to do this number one thing, the driving.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
Quirky and Mark, they were in it. They were in
it to get it, and I just didn't want to.
And so obviously when it gets back to her, I
don't talk to Shirley on the phone, she's you know,
she's stepping in and just saying, you got to do
what they want you to do. And I said, I
understand that, surely, but at some point I've got to
be true to myself too, you know. And as scary
as it is to go against you right now, I
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didn't want to do it, and so we did it,
and I'm glad we didn't because I think that would
have really had a backlash. And you know, now after
years of or even a few years after Mark being
on the show, I don't think he would have ever
suggested that. You know, that was another first time season,
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you know, not knowing what kind of like you said,
now there's so much you guys know about the show
and how how the audience is going to react. I
don't think that he would have even probably suggested it,
or maybe he would have. He's he's still I'm sure,
very silly.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
So I'm also pretty sure I don't know how involved
they are, like what they were during his last season
or like previous seasons. But like you know, this is
a big no no in the production world of but
mind you, they all know, like they all know, we
go and get help, like either you're married to a
dancer and they help you, or your parents are dancers,
or like in my situation, none of the above.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
It goes by so fast, Like you get done with
one episode and some people were back at this the
You have to be the back of the rehearsal studios
working on the next routine, whether the celebrity was there
or not. Usually the pros were there for at least
a couple hours working out what the next week was
going to be for them and their partner.
Speaker 1 (25:47):
Well, you also had results shows, so we lost to day.
So we went straight from Tuesday's results show after a
full day prior to that, and then another day of
a show. I would stay up till god knows when,
and then we would go out and you know, get
schwayted every Monday night. So it's like I was just
on survival mode. But back to uh, back to you.
Was it hard for you too? Was it too many
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cooks in the kitchen?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No? I I loved any and all help. I mean
there was times where I remember you would give me.
You would start talking about something and you would kind
of start getting into the technique, and it was like
I felt like I was like this close to you,
please tell me more. I loved it Max, same thing, Max.
Like Max was like I remember he said something about
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my footwork and I said, what do you what do
you mean? He's like, you know, you don't You're you're
going from I don't really remember what it was, but
like you're going from toe to heel and needs to
be healed to toe and blah blah blah blah, I said.
And I remember going to my phone, pulling up my
YouTube video and going or not YouTube, but my video
of me doing the dance. I'm like, what part are
you talking about? I loved it. You guys were just
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these just knowledge. You had so much in this world
that I was falling in love with, and you guys
just would It was so awesome how you would just
give like advice. You know, we were all competing.
Speaker 1 (27:06):
Remember when we would party and have slumber parties at
Palazzo and me and you would be so crazy, and
I was teaching you how to straighten your freaking legs
and how to distribute your weight from foot to foot.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
Yes, I remember that. I actually have You know, what's
funny when you say that when probably a video of it.
But I do have a video of Kim Johnson teaching
my husband. Now, we were just dating to do some
type of lift thing with me and she in your
but this was your big house in the hills, and
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it was. It's just so funny because he actually really
loves dancing too. He really loves learning, and how much
I did, because after the All Star season or after
our season, I went on tour then I was in Vegas. Yeah, yeah,
that's when Jordan and I were first getting to together,
and he was just around all these dancers who loved
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to teach him how to do stuff.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
It was so fun And who must love him in general?
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Oh yeah, they do. They love the sweet man. Yeah,
he's awesome and he is. He's an athlete but has
and it is good. He's got rhythm. But it's just
so fun. I mean, our best friend James, you know,
big Big in the ballroom world, taught us are our
first dance. We have a full blown first dance that
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I didn't want to do. I wanted to sway. Jordan
wanted to learn a dance like a full I don't
know if James considered a foxtrotter or what, but yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:36):
I love that. Did you feel like with Mark since
it was his first season, he must have been so excited,
like there was also a lot of paparazzi. This was
like the height of Dancing with the stars. Did you
feel like you had to in a way hold his
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hand through it all? Like did he get did he
ever turned you for advice? Did you have to kind
of feel it It's okay, you're fear on TMZ looking
across sied, no Worri is going to go away the
next day.
Speaker 2 (29:09):
Yeah, he really held it together, I'd say when it
comes to the paparazzi. His more questions and concerns was
him and Derek hattered their band and they were bringing
their band over from London, and so they I would say,
you know, that's not necessarily leaned, but definitely asked for
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advice on certain things. And my manager fell in love
with with Mark and Derek. It was obviously hard not to.
They were so excited, they were so talented, they had
so much to bring again, the d Huff band, no,
the Balas Huff band, Ballast.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
It changed, like so many times, but yes.
Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, but yeah, so they they were really working on
their music. I think that's what they were really actually
wanting to do. They loved being on the show obviously,
but they were hoping that was gonna you know, project
their band and the opportunities for their band eventually. And
so my manager and I helped style them for do
you remember their first performance that I don't remember what
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club it was, but my manager and I helped a
lot with that, you know, just helping out and you know,
making sure press was going to be there and all
that kind of stuff to help them.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
Because they were before they had many reps.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Right, yeah, they were, yeah, exactly, And so you know,
at the time Melby's manager we were out with that season,
we were out with Melby a lot and her manager
started talking with Derek's. No, he was not their ex husband,
he was a manager. Aside from that, I think before
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I think that situation left before the ex husband started managing.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
I think I don't know, but did did you and
Mark date? I knew you were going to do this?
It was such a who did you date? A bunch?
I don't want the list girl, but the sad no.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You know what? We nothing never official, but we were
just again. We were It was like finding a new
best friend, you know, finding a buddy he again. Him
and Derek were so green, and we were together all
the time. You know, we would rehearse and we loved rehearsing.
We loved what we were doing. So after rehearsal studios,
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I know we weren't probably supposed to do this, but
we'd go in the the parking lot of Palazzo and
go through our stuff again if we felt like we
were you know, a lot of times he just wanted
everything to be perfect, not really necessarily always concerned about me,
but the choreography. So he was always trying to find
so you right, I did. I wanted it to be perfect,
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and especially after getting to know him and Derek so well.
I wanted this to be amazing for Mark and Derek
to have a great first season on the show. And
they's just won this season before right with the follow
So it was like they knew you could come in
for the first season and win. It wasn't something you
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had to work up too. If you had a good
partner and great, great material you could win, you could,
So that was their their goal. We were really really close. Again,
I wouldn't really consider it a relationship as much as
it was a friendship. We were together from you know,
we would go to rehearsals together because they lived in
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a different set of the build not buildings, but like
there's different lots side, so they yeah, they lived in
a different one. But he would either pick me up
or me and my girlfriend Stephanie that was there with
me everywhere we'd go pick up Mark and Derek. You know,
we'd all go together to the rehearsal studio once we
were done, So then we were you're eating lunch together
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in between your you know you're after then you're going
then you're doing fitting, so you're driving your you might
as well drive there together, you know, it all makes
sense to wear and we were the same age too.
It wasn't like there was a giant age gap there.
We were into the same thing. Music, dance, acting, you know, movies, everything.
And I would bring him down to Orange County to
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hang out with my friends on a day off, you know,
to just.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
A day off.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
Well, well I just give it. At some point we
got off ended up having quite a bit of time off.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Right, Let's just be real. Let's just be real. It
didn't take you too long to get these routines. Come on, no,
it did. I did.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
I worked, I worked too many hours. But yeah, there's
just this this this uh, this bond that you create
and you also are your this is a goal that
you both want. It's not I feel really lucky to
have the pro who's on their first season, because again,
there was some pros where you could tell kind of
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checked out. They didn't see themselves going very much, and
they checked out of the season. They just kind of
wanted to get as far as they could, you know,
not necessarily gunning for the trophy. And one hundred percent
Mark was gunning for that trophy. And I wanted nothing
more than to have him win his first season. It
would have been amazing.
Speaker 1 (34:13):
And so when you found out you got eliminated, what
was going through your mind? Were you shocked?
Speaker 3 (34:18):
You?
Speaker 1 (34:19):
Did you know what was coming? Did you hear any
rumblings behind the scenes.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
No, not at all. And that's one thing I wish you.
I mean, I guess if you looked at the blogs, maybe,
But so when you ask, you asked earlier about why
I think happened. You know, after you as it's going on,
you're trying to get his money votes. But again, I
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was a cheetah girl. I was on the Disney Channel.
I didn't have I had a giant fan base, but not.
Speaker 1 (34:50):
The same network and family.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
Right, so my fan base might have been tuning in,
but I'm not quite sure they were jumping on phones
and texting and voting, right, you know the way you
could vote. So I knew the only way I had
a shot was to get good scores. If I didn't
get good scores, I was pretty much. I mean, my
management team talked to me about this. You know, every
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one going into it talk to me about you know,
you hope to gain a fan base while you're on
the show, but at the same time, you're not going
in with one that watches the show. The demo of
season five was not little kids. It is now maybe,
but it was not young kids their parents, but it
was a lot older demo. The demo I think was
between like Steen sixty five was the main demo. They
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didn't know who I was, so I had to do
great routines and show my ability to get at least
good scores. So half of the bank was good and
trying to be as full as possible because there was
no guarantee I was going to get any votes, and.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
Like, how about with like Sochi and Zendeya and all
those people, but.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
They came so much later. Yeah, I was like one
of the first people again that yeah, that didn't I mean,
I think about think about our season. I had Melby
obviously huge, known everywhere worldwide. I had Marie Osmond talk
about right smack in the dab of that demo. I
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had Jane Seymour. I had Wayne Newton, I mean four alone.
Then you got Elio, which the demo watches the same
indie car. I didn't have anyone looking for a cheetah girl.
No one was looking for a cheeta girl other than.
Speaker 1 (36:40):
That, do you believe? Like, do you is there any
do you have any regrets on any during that experience
with Mark or what is the biggest lesson you've learned
through this experience.
Speaker 2 (36:54):
I feel like the biggest lesson I feel like was
I wish I had taken pictures.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Was there such a thing?
Speaker 2 (37:03):
No, there's not. I wish I had taken more pictures.
I think as far as how much I really put
a lot of effort into trying to get to know
the cast. Yeah, it's a big thing. I knew being
around being in a makeup trailer with Jane Seymour and
Marie Osmond. I would ask them about stories anything, and
they love telling them, which is amazing. They're both great storytellers.
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I didn't get to know Wayne that much then, but
we went on tour right after, and that's when I
really got to know him, his wife, his daughter, his
sister in law, Tricia, who's still one of my really
good friends. But you know, at that time, I just
I think I wish I would have taken more moments
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to soak in. Instead, I was go, go, go, go, go,
go go go. You know, I was still working the
Cheetah Girls. We were flying to do Good Morning America
because the second movie was coming out. You know, we
were doing a lot of stuff, and I feel like
within all of my career, I was so young and
I was just going, and I did not stop and
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really soak in as much as I feel like I
could have, you.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Know, right to present now, I don't.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
I don't feel like I was as present, you know,
like you said, we were we were dancing, Hey, we
were partying at night. We were going I pre red
carpet that was out there sometimes to a night you know,
just go go, go versus you know. I know at
that time I would go to red carpets and then leave.
I wouldn't even stay to watch the movie. Sometimes. First
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of all, what a jerk move, but so rude. I
hate that.
Speaker 1 (38:38):
So you were busy, I was busy.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
And it was I wanted to go. Obviously you want
to do the red carpet thing, but I didn't. I
didn't realize, like you're at this premiere, go watch the
movie for the first time for the audience. Like I
didn't do all that. It wasn't often that. I don't
want it to sound like.
Speaker 1 (38:54):
It was always You're fine. I don't think you're the
only one though. Put it that way, Yes, move on,
to also was really quick, did you Yeah? So how
was that process? Because like, okay, so I danced with
Emma Smith because he said I will only do All
Stars if I dance with Cheryl, and then.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
I for that and smart.
Speaker 1 (39:11):
I had Jill Marini on there as well, danced with Pete.
I had Drew Liche dancing with Anya Trebunskaya and it
was odd right, like, and I know that you were
paired with Louis and Marks with Bristol.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Bristol, I believe had said she wouldn't do the show
unless she got mark.
Speaker 1 (39:30):
So then when they mamasked you, did they tell you
this that you weren't going to get marked? Do you
remember how I got on the show on All Stars? Yeah, no,
they didn't ask me. What do you mean?
Speaker 2 (39:41):
Girl? I had to go through like a whole political
campaign to get on the show. Okay, so they they did.
They set their cast at twelve. And I remember I
was doing the Vegas show with Joe at the Traffic.
It was so fun.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
I was there for the opening and that was yeah, yeah,
and it really didn't ever stop being at that bar,
like of.
Speaker 2 (40:06):
Just fun we had. It was awesome because we got
to have different pros come in and do you know,
just a couple of weeks or whatever. It was really fun.
The show was always changing and evolving with new people,
but there were staples of it that were there. It
was Me, Joey Fatone, Kyle Massey, and Carson Kressley. No,
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Kim didn't come all. Kim wasn't always on it. Okay, no,
because Joey had a different partner that Kim would come
in and do. Kim did it a couple of times,
but she would come in and do Joey's partner stuff
some of it. So anyways, Joey gets the call and
I'll remember I was in I was in swims, lacy swimmers. Sorry,
I was in lacy swimmers and I were We were
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in the dressing room and Joey comes in and he's like, dude,
did you hear they're doing an all star cast or
an all star show? And I was like, no way
because they had never done it before. And I'm like no,
and he's like, yeah, Dina just called me and asked
me to be on it. And I was like no,
hell that I remember, I had my phone was on
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the stage from then on, waiting and brain but it
seemed like everyone that was being called back to the
show was finalists, and I remember crying to my manager, going,
there's just no way. I'm never going to get a
spot there. Everyone. There's Drew's on it. Now, there's Emmitt
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Smith that I heard is on it because I had
talked to you. There's all these people. I'm like, there's
just no way. Dina calls me and I'll remember her phone.
Her name comes up in my phone and I'm like,
oh my gosh, I'm shaking and she's She goes, hey,
so we're doing an all star cast or an all
star season. I said, oh yeah. I was like, and
my voice was so tight, Oh yeah. Really, She's like, yeah,
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So twelve of the celebrities have been placed, but we're
looking for a thirteenth person. Okay, what we wanted to
do is a big campaign. We wanted we want to
get people really involved before the show even starts. So
what we're going to do is we're going to get
three celebrities to kind of do kid out and I go,
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are we going to come dance? And she said, no,
We're gonna just put your guys's name up. You guys
are going to have a voting between the three of
you to get that thirteenth spot.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
WHOA wait, I don't remember any of this.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1 (42:30):
It was like, wait, so that public voted.
Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (42:34):
It was a huge campaign campaign going up it against
It was Carson, it was everyone.
Speaker 2 (42:41):
I was on the show with Vegas, well Kyle.
Speaker 1 (42:44):
And me, Oh, you would have won, hands down, you
would win.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
Carson is so funny. And Kyle made the finals.
Speaker 1 (42:51):
That's true, but they would have already asked him if
that was the case.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
Huh that I don't know.
Speaker 1 (42:56):
And then it was lazy. It was lazy upset.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
She had not gotten she had not gotten a call
to be on the All Stars season. So then but
that also meant the Traumpa Caana show was also possibly extending,
and so she knew she would still be working at
the Trap and extending the show. So then it was
they came up. We each did these commercials of why
you should vote. I look like a politicians secretary. I
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did not really look like a politician, but I didn't.
You know, we do this whole campaign, and I had.
We had we did a Good Morning America thing like
they were doing a big press leaning up to the
All stars for people to start already getting involved in
the show. It's brilliant. It's an amazing night. Yeah, I
just wish I didn't.
Speaker 1 (43:43):
How many votes did you win by? Do you know?
Speaker 2 (43:46):
I don't know, but I started legitimately campaigning. I did
all these videos I started. We had. There was this
group called Team Sabrina that tried to petition to get
me put back on the show.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
Originally, but I'm still one of the most and I
say this in my intro again is one of the
most shocking still to this day, like it is still shocking.
Speaker 2 (44:08):
I I will say it was amazing that it happened
because I would have never known the incredible team of
you know, the audience members, the fans out there. I
would have never known how incredible they were and how supportive.
So they got on the ball that I swear it
(44:28):
was Team Sabrina that got me on the show. Dina
said the votes were incredible, and they were from the
very first day in an ability to vote, they were saying.
Speaker 1 (44:38):
This is why I think you got eliminated. I know
you're not asking me, but I'm going to say it anyway.
I would like, I don't think it's your fan base
at all. I think it's the fact that people already
thought you were going to be safe, so why waste
votes on someone who's going to be safe?
Speaker 2 (44:51):
For Caryl, I will tell you right now, I remember
being out that night, and that's the exact word you
told me. You literally said the same thing. And also
it's consistent better. It does not feel better, but it
does makes.
Speaker 1 (45:09):
You feel better because you know why, then you're you're
basically insinuating that you didn't have enough fans that voted,
and that's not true. Like you have that crew of
people that also got you a part of All Stars,
Like you still have your fan base like personally for you,
So that should make you feel better if you chance
to change your perspective a little totally.
Speaker 2 (45:30):
And and you know, but I will say it put,
I don't feel like I enjoyed the second seat my
second season, the All Star season anymore as much because
I felt like I had so much pressure.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Coming from Louis No.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
No, Louie was amazing. I mean, I got lucky with
two incredible teachers. I learned so much, so many different
things from each of them. But I just had so
much pressure to be great for the fans that did
get me on the show. I didn't get asked to
be on it. I was voted on, and it just
(46:13):
I had. So I was so tired that whole season
because I would I couldn't sleep. I was just really
just nervous that I wasn't going to live up to
this expectation that I had set in season five. You know,
if you.
Speaker 1 (46:27):
Set that expectation up by yourself, though, Like, do you
really believe that the fans, your fans expected you to
be perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
I don't think they expected me to be perfect, but
they expected me to come out and dance the way
I danced in season five, and I was you were
better ten years older I was. I did have a
lot more on under my belt. I will say at
that point I did know a lot more about the
ballroom and chat chas.
Speaker 1 (46:51):
And you also just came from a Vegas show, and
you came from a Vegas show.
Speaker 2 (46:55):
But the Vegas show, even with even the way they
treat celebrities no matter what, like when you go on
the road, like they're not like harping you about your
technique or anything crazy.
Speaker 1 (47:06):
You're like literally you're around it.
Speaker 2 (47:09):
And like I said, I wanted to know everything I
didn't get to do, you know, a botch kata in
my any of my routines. And I remember that was
my like thing in the finale part of the Vegas Show,
that I would sit on the side and go and
turn and turn and turn.
Speaker 1 (47:28):
My god freaking Louis so funny.
Speaker 2 (47:30):
So yeah, okay, it was amazing. I do have to
make sure everyone knows how much I loved working with Louis.
Speaker 1 (47:37):
Yeah, he's I mean, he loved dancing with you. You
remind me of his partner Julie Fryer. Did you ever
say that to you?
Speaker 2 (47:43):
My last dance, my rumbo was him and Julie's okay
dance they did.
Speaker 1 (47:49):
I'm gonna drop the mic. That is such bullshit, don't know,
don't you rational routine?
Speaker 2 (47:57):
So yeah, I'm telling you it was this.
Speaker 1 (47:59):
It was right there that you are more than qualified.
I just did a world champion's routine. No worries, We'll
tell me the pressure.
Speaker 2 (48:10):
This is like his.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Everyone there's no one else is at your level like
no one else has been and will or ever will be.
I'm not giving Emmett Smith my professional routine I did
with this guy named Jose de camps, Derek's not giving
Nicole Scherzigger his refuse so good. No, this shit is crazy.
I just want you to know that you are amazing, and.
Speaker 2 (48:31):
So is Sean Johnson. That she was on the off
Star season, so Sean Johnson was amazing.
Speaker 1 (48:37):
But like I just you are amazing. I want you
to know that that you are beyond like as far
as technical ability, performance wise, like everything, Sabrina, I want
you to know you couldn't do any better than you did,
regardless of the results. Thank you, period, thank you, rapid
(49:04):
fire quickly, Oh God. Pro Partner edition. Mark Ballace versus
Louis van Amstell. How would you compare Louie's teaching style
versus Marx.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Louis was very intricate and went slowly to where like
he wouldn't move past the step until I did it
like perfectly. Mark was He was a lot faster. I
had to keep up with him. Then he would go
back and we would do it again. You know what
I mean? It was it was a different totally different style,
different pace. I liked both of them though. It was cool.
(49:35):
It was it was awesome to be taught two different ways.
Speaker 1 (49:38):
Did you feel like they both wanted to collaborate with
you collaborate mm hmm. It was one more open to
collaborate than the other or No. I feel they.
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Both if they would ask me questions and stuff, but
my answer was always I want to do what you
think is best. So they both probably stopped at some
point because they knew I just wanted to do what
they wanted to do.
Speaker 1 (50:01):
Who was the better teacher? Oh oh, No, one's listening
to this story.
Speaker 2 (50:06):
Just no, one's listening to this. You know what, I
don't think I could. I think for at each time
they were perfect for me. I think Louis would have
probably bored me when I was younger as far as
that pace, Yeah, yeah, But had Mark done that to
me when I was older, I probably would have gone irritated.
So they were like perfect from they were you know
(50:26):
what I mean? They were perfect for the time of
when I was on the show.
Speaker 1 (50:29):
For sure, what did you have the most chemistry with
on the floor and off the floor?
Speaker 2 (50:34):
You know, I would normally obviously say Mark at that time,
but then I just recently after when I got the
call for this, watched Louie and Eyes RAHMBA, and I
was like.
Speaker 3 (50:44):
Oh, that I think I think Louis for sure.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah, he seems so great. I love my Cinderella danced
with him that well. It was so fun and I've
never felt so I felt as beautiful there as I
did on my way day.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
I mean, honestly, you guys really complimented each other both
as for Louie as well. Who had the best lead?
Speaker 2 (51:09):
Ooh? I think Louis did because I was a better
what's it follow? Yeah, I was a better follower with
with Mark, just I knew.
Speaker 1 (51:24):
Different different schools of training too. I don't think sure
I knew.
Speaker 2 (51:27):
The photography I went in as a dancer like a
hip hop dancer, the background I had in the season
five versus my All Star season I had learned and
watched so much more of being led. I did not
know how to be led with with Mark, so I
just did the steps on the counts and the accents
and the music, where with Louis he could have walked
(51:48):
me through that dance with any song. It wouldn't have mattered.
He really was able to guide me. But it's because
I let him, so I was probably my fault, I
mean not probably, it was.
Speaker 1 (51:56):
My I think that's why you had more power in
all fairness here, when it comes to your movement, in
the quality of movement, there was more power and dynamic
because that's what you do. I mean, I see. There's
different ways of thinking, right Like for me, I was
coached by someone who only who would stop dancing with
me if I didn't follow his lead. So it's like
it's a different way of thinking, but not one is
better than the other. However, when it comes to execution,
(52:18):
I prefer that style more. Yeah, just so, just to
be clear, really quick, Rapid Fire Cheetah Girl Edition, what
was if the Chetah Girls?
Speaker 2 (52:28):
Wait?
Speaker 1 (52:28):
First, if the Cheetah Girls were to reunite for one
more project, what would it be? And are you guys reuniting?
That's two questions, by the way, Yes, that is rapid Fire,
let's go.
Speaker 2 (52:41):
I think that the Cheetah Girls would most likely do
a movie, and I feel like there's hints out there
that there's something going on. What I would really love
to do is a reunion show. I would love to
get on a stage and kill it again with my
girls that we were so many girls first concert back
(53:03):
in the day, and I would love to go and
reenact our stage work and have them bring their kids,
because one of those girls now have kids, and that
would be my dream. I'm not sure if that will
ever happen. I would be a hundred percent down if
that ever came up.
Speaker 1 (53:22):
So you guys are reuniting.
Speaker 2 (53:24):
I don't know, honestly, it's all I think it's out there.
It's finally out there. There was complete silence, crickets everywhere.
Now there's a rumbling, so.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Truth to the rumblings.
Speaker 2 (53:36):
Yeah, it's actually finally like within the world of you know,
behind the scenes stuff, it's actually rumbling and steps they
think are starting to possibly happen. Nothing's been Greenland. I
don't think.
Speaker 1 (53:48):
Okay, all right, good to know good. What's the most
significant challenge you all face together as a group back
in the day.
Speaker 2 (53:56):
I think, you know, one thing that was really tough
was Keilee, Adrian and I were touring. We were together
all the time doing Cheetah girl stuff. Raven was doing
that so Raven, so it was kind of a separation.
So I think the second movie was a little tough
behind the scenes. I don't think you see it portrayed
on camera at all, but you think, you know, we
(54:21):
were young, we were really young. We were early twenties.
I think we could have been more cognizant of what
we were, what we should have done before we even
went to Barcelona, to make sure when we were there
that wasn't a vibe, you know, And that goes to
show maturity levels.
Speaker 1 (54:39):
And what happened in Barcelona.
Speaker 2 (54:41):
Nothing happened in Nothing happened in Barcelona, but just it
wasn't like she was in an apartment. We were in
a hotel. You know, we were separate, so she was
a little bit of way, so we would have a car.
Nothing was done on purpose in any sense. It just
was not the four of us the way the first
movie was. And I wish we would have either fought
(55:04):
to have her come to the hotel or for us
to have an apartment where she was, because that alone
before and after you're on set, the time away from
it is really what bonds you as actors and friends,
and we had that in the first movie and we didn't.
So I feel like I wish we would have been
a little bit more deliberate of it's the four of
us and we need to be together, you know.
Speaker 1 (55:25):
I wish we were going to do this next time around.
Speaker 2 (55:29):
I mean, they can come hang out with my kids,
you know, if they want to know what real crazy is.
But yeah, you know, one of the things when I
was on the season was going to the Spice Girl.
Do you remember going to the Spice Girls reunion show
and we walked backstage and they had a specific room
where all their kids and nanny's were playing. They had
(55:51):
like a playroom.
Speaker 1 (55:52):
Yeah, like a green room for them. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:53):
Yes, that's my dream. Like, how amazing would that be.
Everyone's got their own buses, your family's on tour, and
you've got green rooms that like the kids just go
nuts and learn to be friends and everything as well.
Speaker 1 (56:06):
We don't even have time for any fan questions, which
is a shame. But I love you.
Speaker 2 (56:09):
I'll come back on.
Speaker 1 (56:11):
Okay, good, thank you. See it wasn't that bad, was it.
It wasn't I mean you you You basically interviewed yourself.
So okay, seriously, though, do you love the podcast? Please promote?
Speaker 2 (56:25):
Yes, I am doing a podcast called Magical Rewind. If
you are a Disney lover, and especially a Disney Channel lover,
you're gonna love it. It's every single week. I'm literally
going to do the next episode right after this. It
is about we rewatched the Disney Channel original movies. These
(56:46):
movies are so good or so funny or miss the mark,
and there's.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Like really like life lessons, right.
Speaker 2 (56:55):
They are life lessons. We also do Wonderful World of
Disney movie as well, which are they go back even farther.
They're not always available, so we have a hard time
reaching for those, but it's so fun to rewatch those
movies now as an adult and just have a night
of like nostalgia. You think of who your crush was
(57:15):
at that time and how you thought that was like
just like that the main actor, or you think of
your friends watching it.
Speaker 1 (57:22):
I love you, Sabrina, thank you so much for doing this,
And I'm going to check out her podcast. Where can
people find your podcast really quick? It's obviously on I
Hurt Radio where you listen to podcasts, shit.
Speaker 2 (57:33):
Where you listen to podcasts it is, And we're also
on Instagra, Instagram called the Magical rewind Odd and you
can find me on Sabrina dot Brian and yes, it's
so fun and we do fun interviews with the actors too.
Speaker 1 (57:49):
I know you have to go, but I saw this
video with you hanging out with Demi Lovado, the Jonas Brothers,
like there was like all you today, that was creat
You guys were in the bathroom. You guys were like.
Speaker 2 (57:59):
That was at the you Yeah, the Jonas Brothers actually,
which is so crazy to think. On our Cheetah Girl
Christmas tour, you know, we had a bus are opening
act Ali and aj they had a bus. Jonas Brothers
was their opening act and they were running. If you
ever look at their documentary, they used to ride around
(58:20):
in this twelve passenger van. That's what they drove around
behind our buses. In the Jonas Brothers they were opening
opening act. And then by the time we saw them
after Camp Rock, they were like megastars, just megastars, and
it was.
Speaker 1 (58:35):
Do you still keep in touch with them?
Speaker 2 (58:37):
No? Not really. I saw Joe at I think it
was your birthday party years ago, like a couple years ago,
and that's why did I saw him? Yeah? Yeah, and
he was so sweet still, such a sweet guy. The
whole family, the whole family.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
Yeah, I love you, Sabrina, go get ready you podcast
to the podcasts.
Speaker 2 (58:55):
We're done now. It feels like we had coffee this morning.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
Seriously, but they're still like so much to talk about.
But we'll continue TVD on camera. Yeah yeah, I love you,
thank you too, Bye bye. I just want to thank
you all so much for listening, and since you guys
have been loving the podcast so much, especially when I
do recaps of past seasons, we decided to make it
a series. So make sure to not only listen every
Mondays for the interview portion, but now you can look
(59:20):
forward to listening to an all new rewatch recap series
here on sex Lives and Spray Tands every Wednesdays, along
with another weekly episode of Headlines and Hot Topics. That's
three full episodes of sex Lizes and Spray Hands that
drop every single week, so make sure to listen so
you can get your fix of all things DWT has related.
Love you guys so much, until next time,
Host
Cheryl Burke
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