November 21, 2023 • 25 mins
Leah Remini takes over Cheryl's podcast and turns the tables on her, asking hard-hitting questions like why Cheryl really left DWTS, whether she regrets revealing the name of her worst partner, and what performance made both of them cry on season 17.
Plus, the duo reminisce about Len Goodman, what they feel is missing from the current version of the show, ruffling feathers, and not being afraid to take a leap of faith.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
This is Sex, Lies and spray Tands with me, Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, this is Leah Remenie. I have taken over Cheryl's
show and Cheryl as my guest. Now here's what I
will require. Please do not give me one word answers,
because if you do, I will just let it sit
there and die. I will not fill it in the
holes for you because you're family. I only do that
for people I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It should be the opposite, exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We always treat like our family and friends like shit
right and perfect strangers totally. Okay, are you ready? So ready,
we shall commence the interview. Be kind, Cheryl. Please do
not answer anything you do not feel comfortable with answering.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, Okay, I feel like I'm being interrogated.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Do you miss doing Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Of course I miss Dancing with the stars. Dancing with
the Stars is my family. Has been all two decades
of my life, and I had some of the best
memories ever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So why are you not there?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Because you know it's time for me to do other things.
I've been there for twenty six seasons and for me,
you know it's important that I continued to evolve and
if that's not with the show, then okay, I have
to I think I've accomplished enough as a pro dancer
on Dancing with the Stars that I found that, you
know what, it's probably time. Now is the time to
do it. I've talked about it for a while, as
(01:26):
you know, so I thought, you know, why not do
it now?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And you just felt like even though you were still
to me one of the you know, and remained to
be one of the best answers pros on the show,
you feel that that wasn't enough anymore, like your contribution
right as an artist, because I think it's important for
people to understand.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like, it's not ego that's talking, it's it's literally
as an artist.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
As an artist, you've felt and some people can will
write it out like on King of Queens, you know,
we could have kept going, and I asked Kevin, like,
why why are we ending the show? And he's like, Leah,
we should leave when we're wanted, not when we're like,
you know, a zero zero point one in the ratings, right.
And it was very hard, you know, because Kevin felt like, look,
unless we you know, really do this child thing where
(02:14):
Doug and Carrey have children, you know, which the show
felt would be the end of the show because they
that's why they've saved it for the last episode, because
I felt we would just kind of go downhill if
we actually entered children into the show. Really, and I'm
wondering if it's a similar thing with you, where it's
not so much that you couldn't dance, It wasn't about
(02:36):
your ego. No, I want to be this and you
better see me as that is that you felt as
a dancer, as a pro on the show, that you've
kind of given everything that you could to the celebrities
that you had ever you know, been.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Involved, and yes, and yes, that is one side. And
then it's also what you said as well, like you
you want to feel wanted. Yeah, you want to feel
in a way appreciated. And also it could be both things.
It could be the fact that I know my actual
(03:10):
potential and I maybe felt like, okay, I did that already,
right now, where is there to go? There's only one
way to go, right, I won twice, But it doesn't
mean that I should have left back in two thousand
and seven either, Right, I just feel like where I
am and all the work that I've done self work.
It's important that I after I separated from my ex,
(03:33):
that it was important that I continue on this path
towards growing and evolving. So I don't know whatever, however
anyone wants to interpret that. I just felt like I
was doing the same thing over and over again, which
is a great thing to do over and over again.
I'm grateful. I understand that this is once in a lifetime,
but so is my life, and so is anybody's life.
(03:53):
It's important that I challenge myself a little bit more,
and it's not with the show. I guess, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Unfortunately, no, I understand that I really do, and I
think what also people should know because I don't know
that they know, because I know, I know how difficult
it was for you, because, like you said, you wanted
to give so much. I know that all the pros
want to give so much to their celebrity, but there's
only so much you can do with somebody in five days,
(04:20):
and in that five days, that celebrity really gets invested
and really wanting to do well for you guys, but
there's only so much that you could teach. You can't
teach a professional rumba to somebody who's never rumba, right, right,
serving your celebrity in a way that you would really
want to, especially being a teacher, right because you you know,
anybody like not everybody who's you know, dancers should be
(04:44):
a teacher and they're not teachers.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, those are two different job titles.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Absolutely, so it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I also known art on its own, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Also know for you what I what I admire about you,
and I always say this about you, is you are
somebody body who wants to keep trying something new. So, no,
you didn't have another show to go to. You don't
have a dance tour. You don't have, which to me
was a scarier move because you didn't have your next
(05:17):
move plotted out. You just knew this is no longer
fulfilling me, and it's serving me serving and it's disingenuous
for me to be taking these people's money, taking another
pro spot for something that I'm no longer feeling i'm contributing,
and that's contributing to me other than financially, right, because that's.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean, look, yeah, yes, and that too. It's everything.
It's it's the fact that I grew up on this show,
and I grew up with these people and also with
all of these different options that it all was everything right,
it can be everything, and I'm still grateful for my time,
but I also know in what how much more am
(05:59):
I going to do what I've been doing from two
thousand and six up until now, And then also feel like, Okay, well,
maybe it's just not for me to do other things
and be a part of a different role on this show,
but that was what was next for me now, even
though I believe that that doesn't mean that anyone else did,
And that's okay too. So I have to now look
(06:19):
at myself in the mirror and be like, am I
happy with who I see and what I've accomplished? And
I feel like I had closed this chapter a while ago,
regardless of what anyone else thinks?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I honestly, Cheryl, it's so admirable because you don't
have your next and sometimes you know, but.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I am my next project.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like this was it? No? No, no, But what I'm
saying is you know, yet wouldn't quit something? Right? And
then you know? And so I think what you did
is extremely brave and it's scary and I'm in the
same position as Cheryl. I don't you know when we
left scientology, you know, and even today you know, decisions
that I make, I don't know what I I have
(07:00):
to be comfortable with not having the answer. I just
know that this doesn't feel good or this doesn't feel
right to me now, and I have to make a change.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Periodic what doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So I'm just saying anything, any.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Just in anything in general.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, God, you have to take the next step. When
you can't see the stairs right where you can't see
the bridge, where you can't sometimes it's just about faith. Okay,
here we go. If you started the show today with
the knowledge that you have, what would you have changed
in how you approached each new season?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The comparison is what was killing me in my head.
I think it was the fear first of all. I
think in a way everyone's like, what was your rock bottom?
Because I'm sober, Obviously my rock bottom was my success.
And I always say this because I think in a
way it was like I hit that peek. If you
want to just look at the material world as far
as mirror balls go, I did that my very first
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two seasons, and then it was like, oh, who's this
new person coming it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Who's this? And I Oh, then I started taking the
purpose and the premise of the show away from my brain,
meaning I made it about me instead of about my celebrity.
And I think as soon as I started doing that,
I started trying to compete and not for the good
intentions of what this show. And I took myself and
I made I made it dancing with Cheryl instead of
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dancing with the star that I was dancing with. That's
when my that was my rock bottom was just peaking
almost too soon.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wow, Cheryl, that's extremely self reflective and big of you
to see and admit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thank you. All right, ready, thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Next question, do you wish you hadn't said who your
worst partner was?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Absolutely? I regret that and I actually emailed Ian Zeering.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
By the way, you shouldn't have set his freaking name again, Cheryl,
because people who didn't know, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't care. Go ahead, it's okay, I'm okay to
take acount of ability.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Go ahead ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know. Look, I made a mistake. And even though
the tone of the podcast that I was doing at
the time, it's it's irrelevant. I know I hurt his
feelings and I shouldn't have said that. And yes, absolutely
I do regret that I used to say. I have
no regrets, No, but I regret when it has and
involves a joke, involves somebody's like actual feelings. It's just
(09:22):
not cool because I wouldn't want that to be done
to me. So I hope he accepts my apology.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh, you don't know if he does or not.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, he did respond to the email, but like.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was, I don't know if he actually really you know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Don't know until I see him, you know, but I'd
love for him to come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh my god, yes, up to him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Let's let's let your fans start to tell him go
on the podcast. Thank you guys. Having a cleansing moment
like I had, would Julie Moon best, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like great, what happened with that again? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Like, no, I know that my listeners, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know that we've reconnected and we made up.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's what I'm Yes, I know, okay, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But what I'm saying is, you know, it's always like
nice to be able to heal pieces of ourselves, whether yeah,
and I'm not saying you need to bring back toxic
people in your life like you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You don't need to forgive, forgive.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You don't need to, like you know, become best friend. No,
you don't need to become best friend. You don't need
to enter into a relationship with them again if you
don't want that relationship in your life anymore. However, saying
your piece without thinking you're going to get anything back,
just kind of heals a little piece of your of course,
you like I've sent apologies and still block the person
(10:32):
I just because I didn't want anything back, just I
wanted them to know that I apology.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You wanted to make amends. It's in the twelve step. Yes, yes, exactly, Yes, no,
and it does make you feel better.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It does. Was Season seventeen your favorite season? Be honest?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Duh, that's a one word answer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, seriously, No, it was so forget about.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You for a second. Yes, it was, Honestly, I have
to say, still to this day, who is your favorite partner?
I get asked this constantly, and it's plural because I've
been on the show forever. But Jack Osborne was one
of them. Yes, And it wasn't because we won because
we didn't. It wasn't because about how far we went.
It's purely because of just the person. I always say this,
I don't. I'd much rather have a partner who I
(11:23):
can actually communicate and respect on a human to human
level than actually dance with someone who may not be
able to communicate as well and be a good dancer.
I've had different types, and I've had those two options.
With Jack, it was a journey he was dealing with
MS still is, but like it was just it meant
(11:44):
more than a chasha, it meant more than a paddle.
And then on top of it, the camaraderie. Obviously, that's
when I met you. That's when you know. It was
just different back then, and not different in a bad way.
I'm not saying this in a negative way. It was
just it was a different show, just like it was
different back in season too than it was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, And this is my opinion, This is just
my opinion, but I believe that it became less. I
think a lot of the times the pros had bigger
names than the celebrities that were on the show. And
I also think the judging, you know, without Len, it's
difficult because you know, he is truly the guyfather, but
(12:21):
he's also I mean, you could tell me, Cheryl, but
he really is the only accomplished ballroom dancer. So this
is the rest of what I wrote. So it's crazy
that you said this. Okay, listen to.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
This same with your interview.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Listen because I go with season seventeen your favorite season, right,
you answered this, But this is the rest of it.
I said because knowing you and subsequent seasons and watching
you with subsequent partners, I could honestly say I feel
you were the most chill and happy with Jack Osborne.
And why do you think that was? And it's so
true because I have known you since and I've seen
(12:56):
you with other partners, and you've tried very hard, but
there was something very special about you and Jack. And
you know, Tony and I used to come and visit
you and in your dance and nobody really did that
like that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Cool, I guess, but show and tell.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You were always coming into our room, and we were
always going into your room, and you know, Jack welcomed
me and I for me seeing Jack dealing with what
he was dealing with mentally and physically, and I said
to you even that night, I said, Cheryl, you guys
should have won because Jack made the most improvement. Like,
(13:32):
to me, that's what the show should be. It's not
because Jack went from really literally not dancing to this
beautiful dance that you did with him in a tuxedo
or what was the tales I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But yeah, it was our freestyle in his tail suit.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I remember just crying.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I was, Oh, I was crying. That's how much you
can tell that, like, and that has a lot to
do with how hard I work for myselfe as well.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I know you're like so invested.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And he just gave it back my sarca. He just
threw it in my face right back.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I love it all the care that you had with Jack,
Like it really showed you guys had a real relationship.
I mean I cried, you cried, and I just I
saw you so invested, Cheryl, like and not that you
weren't invested in other seasons that I seen you in,
but your heart was with Jack, and I think that's important.
(14:22):
These connections are very important, and I think sometimes the show,
including me, including you, the pros, the producers, everybody kind
of lose sight of why the relationship here actually is.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Important, right, and it's the heart of the.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Heart of the show because it does come across and
people were voting for you guys and keeping you in it,
and I only wish that I was there with you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But also staying with the journey like this is why
the reality of what's happening in the studios is very
important to capture. I think like with former showrunners, you know,
I'm not saying it's wrong, right, but like what was
missing was that you could see that the packages were
a little scripted, you know, And and now with Conrad back,
I think it's going back to like the reality of
the situation because how do how does anyone get invested
(15:10):
if it's not real? Like in general, I.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Agree, I mean I haven't seen it yet because to me,
it's falling away from again traditional like Lynn would have,
you know, been very strict about like I want to
see a chatcha.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You would have been actually, you would have been pleasantly
surprised with Latin night.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was all Latin music, okay, but that's yes one night,
But I would have liked to I want to see
that throughout the show, right and totally, which is why
not only is Lynn going to be missed, but it
just his presence. He was such a big presence and
off off camera. You know Len as you know you've
had a relationship with him, but my experience there, he
(15:47):
was so even when I when I was there as
a dancer, he was always so kind to me in
the hallways. I mean, it wasn't like you're not allowed
to talk to him. You're allowed to talk to it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
No. Yeah, but he and hopefully he can get a
note or two, but yeah, he was relax Like he.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Was the only one that ever said like, relax, you're
doing great. You're not a dancer, just enjoy your tivyer.
And you know, this is the kind of wisdom that
you get from people who are not in it, you
know for like you know, whatever reason, right, but but
in it for the love of dance. And and like
that's why Len doesn't give a shit, uh you know
the response of the audience because he's telling you the truth,
(16:26):
and he's telling you what this is, what this is
this man's work. So if he says it wasn't it
wasn't great period like speaking and you know you I
just it's anyway. But he's uh. He was a beautiful
man and so gracious off screen and he's just missed.
I'm sure he.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Never sugarcoated anything Like what you see on screen was
of what he is.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And it's done with love. That's the thing. It's like
when I give a note to somebody, like it's because
I care, like when I when I don't care, I go, oh,
that looks great, that's awesome because I I'm like unknotable.
So there's some point.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And that was the love for ballroom like honestly, And
that's one thing I'm seeing now actually is that like
there was a quick step done and we were supposed
to stay and hold and they are not in hold
whoever I forgot, but that would have been not okay.
And so the challenge of Dancing with the Stars is
to ballroom dance, no matter what. Right, That's what the
challenge is. Is not to do anything you want. Is
(17:22):
not a free for all. And I think that now
you're losing the challenge.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Sometimes saying that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you have somebody
who's doing, you know, a very pair down you know dance, right,
but it's technically difficult, technically correct, and you know it
doesn't have all the hooplah and a stitch azz. Yeah,
you know, gimmicks bullshit, because I don't like none of
that bullshit. Yeah, I didn't like it when I was there,
when we did all that stuff, Like I was like, listen,
(17:47):
I want to do a chatcha. I want to do
a rumba. I want to you know, I want to
do a samba, like if I'm doing a ballroom. Sure,
I want to do ballroom, right. I want to learn it,
and now I'm learning it right because I really did
want to learn it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Now. I think this is also a reason why maybe
I left a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It must be difficult, right.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know my expert my expertise, I wasn't. I didn't
get trained in other styles. I've only been trained in ballroom.
And I think that when you know you are the
only one, let's say left in a way, I know
Danielle and Pasha, but this is even before they joined.
It feels like where but so then I'm no longer
needed when I have to feel when I'm insecure about
(18:28):
getting a contemporary routine, let's say, and I'm like dreading it.
How do you think my celebrity is going to feel,
you know, like it's like we've lost for me. I
was hired because I knew ballroom, right, and then what
you know, it kind of veered off. But that's okay.
And again the show evolves. I evolve. We all evolve
as humans, whether you're like it or girl.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's like me being asked to do a sitcom and
then do you know, like f your you're all right,
you're a girl from Brooklyn. Now do Macbeth. You know,
it's like, what are you talking? I don't have any
ac what do you talk? You get somebody who does this.
I don't do this, and I have right, got a
crylic nails, I got like serowsky, like I'm not the
girl for this, you know, I mean, and and by
the way, I don't want to do it, you know
(19:10):
what I mean, Like I don't. I don't want to
do those types of things. So I understand you say so,
and I and I think it's important, you know, Cheryl,
we should just do our own ballroom showing. Maybe do
a I mean, we should just do anyone listening we
want to do we want to we want a traditional
ball and by the way, still appreciate.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
No I mean traditional like the people need to all
dance together on the same dance floor, same dance and
nobody knows the song until it plays. That's a traditional
freaking competition.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
With ballroom judges like from black I like, you know,
like yeah yeah, And you can be a judge too.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, I don't want to because I'd like to speak
my mind. They don't speak.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, No, you can be the one that speaks their mind.
And then we'll and then we'll have like an uptight
technical judge and then you like the mouth of all that,
that'll be me, and we'll like get somebody like Max
so you can argue, like I want to see some argument.
I want to see some you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, that was all the questions I had for you, Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think, oh, we should think of some rapid fire
because this is what the highlight is.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I don't do that nonsense. No, I don't want to
get my friend in trouble in any way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, you want to rapid fire question, Cheryl? Sure, let's
end off with something positive. Okay, dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean, this whole thing is positive in my eyes.
Dancing with the Stars has been life changing. It has been.
It has allowed me to figure out who I am
as a woman. It has freed me from being inside
my head, which was back in the day, someone who
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was insecure and didn't have a voice. It has given
me the platform and in a way has given me
a lot of self esteem to continue and move forward.
And honestly, back in the day, when I was twenty
one moving here, I wasn't even able to put two
words together. And so you know, like I said during
my retirement, like this has been the most incredible experience
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and I've met such amazing people that I will forever
be friends with. Yes, because of this show, there's been
a through line, and this through line has been Dancing
with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yes. And by the way, just to be fair, don't
be so precious dancing with the Stars. You're allowed to
get some notes, Like we get notes every day. I
get notes every fucking day this show on social Yeah,
Like it's okay to take some notes, Like you can improve,
we could all improve. Yeah, I'm pervious to change and
to getting notes from people to make the show better.
Like everybody loves the show. That's why we talk about
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it because we want to be better.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You're just stepping into our living room, like you're just
stepping into me and Leah's conversation every day. Likely, there's
nothing negative about this. There's nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
About people telling me, you know you could be a
better interview. Shut up when people are talking like I
take note. Okay, I'm trying. I know I interrupted you
ten times, but you know I'm aware of it now.
Well I wasn't aware of it before my.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And I definitely interrupted you. That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But that's okay. We could learn and we could evolve,
and you know, no one's setting out to hurt anybody's feeling.
I'm still a fan of the show. You're still a
fan of the show. We still wanted to Tom Bergeron.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Still a fan. Everyone's a fan.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And the only reason why people are talking about is
because they care. They were hurt, or they want they
still wanted to be part of it, or didn't like
the way it ended, and they have a right to
say that. Don't be so precious, everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Amen, and I love you, I love you more.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And I'm so proud of your growth, like even with everything,
because you have a right to feel the way you
feel about you know, your experience there, but that you're
growing through it, right, and we're not this.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Is the best therapy ever.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Listen, We're not going to be perfect when we're talking
and healing and trying to manage our feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like she's I'm also still grieving. Hello, my name is
Sherif's work. I was a part of a show for
seventeen years. I'm grieving and my new job is to
watch it still as I'm grieving exactly. But that's not
a bad thing and it's not negative.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Nobody has a right to say you can only heal
by saying positive things like this is that?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Who said that to you? Liah?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Nobody we talk about that. I'm just saying, if there's
any criticism about.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It, there is that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That shit needs to stop. People have a right to heal,
and if they say hurtful things, guess what she'll apologize.
Guess what she'll realize it maybe a year down the
line too. Maybe she'll never realize it. Maybe she obviously
Wait a minute, maybe she was never wrong in the
first place. Maybe she's saying exactly what she should say
for her therapist or per psychology, or like you know
(23:51):
what I mean, like, for me, it doesn't matter. I'm
just giving an example. Like, no, I know, nobody has
a right to say that's the right way to heal,
and you should only open your mouth when you're completely
healed and have exactly the right thing to say.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This is part of the journey of feeling. Yes. And
also I can't help but even ask you this question too, Like,
obviously I am ruffling some feathers because I wasn't invited
to do the tribute, which is fine, I totally it's
not about me. It's about lend and whatever that is,
so be it, and I've made peace with it. But
I just my hope is not to be invited. Believe me.
(24:26):
It's just to have people understand that I am still
so in love with this show. I will forever be
a fan and I respect all every single person involved.
I respect them so much and I understand I get it.
But again, like you said this, I have a right
to my feelings, and so does everyone on the show.
It comes on exactly. Yeah, and let it, let it,
(24:48):
let it be.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let the person got it be Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I love you. I love you, honey, thank.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You, thank you. I'll see you soon. Get to bacon.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Shut up, I'm still not baking cheese.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You are?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You already said yes, that's so disgusting. Ew you put
like a bunch of cream cheese in like like in
my nails.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You hear what?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I love you everybody. By the way, I have the
same suit jacket, are similar you do? Can't wait to
wear it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh my god, we're going to twinsies.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, okay, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Everybody. Love you.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Make sure you guys follow us at sex Lies and
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Let me know who you want me to interview. What
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This is Sex, Lies and spray Tands with me, Cheryl
Burke and iHeartRadio Podcast.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Hello, this is Leah Remenie. I have taken over Cheryl's
show and Cheryl as my guest. Now here's what I
will require. Please do not give me one word answers,
because if you do, I will just let it sit
there and die. I will not fill it in the
holes for you because you're family. I only do that
for people I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
It should be the opposite, exactly.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
We always treat like our family and friends like shit
right and perfect strangers totally. Okay, are you ready? So ready,
we shall commence the interview. Be kind, Cheryl. Please do
not answer anything you do not feel comfortable with answering.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Okay, Okay, I feel like I'm being interrogated.
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Do you miss doing Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Of course I miss Dancing with the stars. Dancing with
the Stars is my family. Has been all two decades
of my life, and I had some of the best
memories ever.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
So why are you not there?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Because you know it's time for me to do other things.
I've been there for twenty six seasons and for me,
you know it's important that I continued to evolve and
if that's not with the show, then okay, I have
to I think I've accomplished enough as a pro dancer
on Dancing with the Stars that I found that, you
know what, it's probably time. Now is the time to
do it. I've talked about it for a while, as
(01:26):
you know, so I thought, you know, why not do
it now?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
And you just felt like even though you were still
to me one of the you know, and remained to
be one of the best answers pros on the show,
you feel that that wasn't enough anymore, like your contribution
right as an artist, because I think it's important for
people to understand.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like, it's not ego that's talking, it's it's literally
as an artist.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
As an artist, you've felt and some people can will
write it out like on King of Queens, you know,
we could have kept going, and I asked Kevin, like,
why why are we ending the show? And he's like, Leah,
we should leave when we're wanted, not when we're like,
you know, a zero zero point one in the ratings, right.
And it was very hard, you know, because Kevin felt like, look,
unless we you know, really do this child thing where
(02:14):
Doug and Carrey have children, you know, which the show
felt would be the end of the show because they
that's why they've saved it for the last episode, because
I felt we would just kind of go downhill if
we actually entered children into the show. Really, and I'm
wondering if it's a similar thing with you, where it's
not so much that you couldn't dance, It wasn't about
(02:36):
your ego. No, I want to be this and you
better see me as that is that you felt as
a dancer, as a pro on the show, that you've
kind of given everything that you could to the celebrities
that you had ever you know, been.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Involved, and yes, and yes, that is one side. And
then it's also what you said as well, like you
you want to feel wanted. Yeah, you want to feel
in a way appreciated. And also it could be both things.
It could be the fact that I know my actual
(03:10):
potential and I maybe felt like, okay, I did that already,
right now, where is there to go? There's only one
way to go, right, I won twice, But it doesn't
mean that I should have left back in two thousand
and seven either, Right, I just feel like where I
am and all the work that I've done self work.
It's important that I after I separated from my ex,
(03:33):
that it was important that I continue on this path
towards growing and evolving. So I don't know whatever, however
anyone wants to interpret that. I just felt like I
was doing the same thing over and over again, which
is a great thing to do over and over again.
I'm grateful. I understand that this is once in a lifetime,
but so is my life, and so is anybody's life.
(03:53):
It's important that I challenge myself a little bit more,
and it's not with the show. I guess, you know.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Unfortunately, no, I understand that I really do, and I
think what also people should know because I don't know
that they know, because I know, I know how difficult
it was for you, because, like you said, you wanted
to give so much. I know that all the pros
want to give so much to their celebrity, but there's
only so much you can do with somebody in five days,
(04:20):
and in that five days, that celebrity really gets invested
and really wanting to do well for you guys, but
there's only so much that you could teach. You can't
teach a professional rumba to somebody who's never rumba, right, right,
serving your celebrity in a way that you would really
want to, especially being a teacher, right because you you know,
anybody like not everybody who's you know, dancers should be
(04:44):
a teacher and they're not teachers.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
No, those are two different job titles.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
Absolutely, so it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
But I also known art on its own, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Also know for you what I what I admire about you,
and I always say this about you, is you are
somebody body who wants to keep trying something new. So, no,
you didn't have another show to go to. You don't
have a dance tour. You don't have, which to me
was a scarier move because you didn't have your next
(05:17):
move plotted out. You just knew this is no longer
fulfilling me, and it's serving me serving and it's disingenuous
for me to be taking these people's money, taking another
pro spot for something that I'm no longer feeling i'm contributing,
and that's contributing to me other than financially, right, because that's.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I mean, look, yeah, yes, and that too. It's everything.
It's it's the fact that I grew up on this show,
and I grew up with these people and also with
all of these different options that it all was everything right,
it can be everything, and I'm still grateful for my time,
but I also know in what how much more am
(05:59):
I going to do what I've been doing from two
thousand and six up until now, And then also feel like, Okay, well,
maybe it's just not for me to do other things
and be a part of a different role on this show,
but that was what was next for me now, even
though I believe that that doesn't mean that anyone else did,
And that's okay too. So I have to now look
(06:19):
at myself in the mirror and be like, am I
happy with who I see and what I've accomplished? And
I feel like I had closed this chapter a while ago,
regardless of what anyone else thinks?
Speaker 2 (06:31):
And I honestly, Cheryl, it's so admirable because you don't
have your next and sometimes you know, but.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
I am my next project.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Like this was it? No? No, no, But what I'm
saying is you know, yet wouldn't quit something? Right? And
then you know? And so I think what you did
is extremely brave and it's scary and I'm in the
same position as Cheryl. I don't you know when we
left scientology, you know, and even today you know, decisions
that I make, I don't know what I I have
(07:00):
to be comfortable with not having the answer. I just
know that this doesn't feel good or this doesn't feel
right to me now, and I have to make a change.
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Periodic what doesn't feel right.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
So I'm just saying anything, any.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Just in anything in general.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, God, you have to take the next step. When
you can't see the stairs right where you can't see
the bridge, where you can't sometimes it's just about faith. Okay,
here we go. If you started the show today with
the knowledge that you have, what would you have changed
in how you approached each new season?
Speaker 1 (07:33):
The comparison is what was killing me in my head.
I think it was the fear first of all. I
think in a way everyone's like, what was your rock bottom?
Because I'm sober, Obviously my rock bottom was my success.
And I always say this because I think in a
way it was like I hit that peek. If you
want to just look at the material world as far
as mirror balls go, I did that my very first
(07:54):
two seasons, and then it was like, oh, who's this
new person coming it?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Who's this? And I Oh, then I started taking the
purpose and the premise of the show away from my brain,
meaning I made it about me instead of about my celebrity.
And I think as soon as I started doing that,
I started trying to compete and not for the good
intentions of what this show. And I took myself and
I made I made it dancing with Cheryl instead of
(08:20):
dancing with the star that I was dancing with. That's
when my that was my rock bottom was just peaking
almost too soon.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Wow, Cheryl, that's extremely self reflective and big of you
to see and admit.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
Thank you. All right, ready, thanks.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Next question, do you wish you hadn't said who your
worst partner was?
Speaker 1 (08:45):
Absolutely? I regret that and I actually emailed Ian Zeering.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
By the way, you shouldn't have set his freaking name again, Cheryl,
because people who didn't know, Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I don't care. Go ahead, it's okay, I'm okay to
take acount of ability.
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Go ahead ahead.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
You know. Look, I made a mistake. And even though
the tone of the podcast that I was doing at
the time, it's it's irrelevant. I know I hurt his
feelings and I shouldn't have said that. And yes, absolutely
I do regret that I used to say. I have
no regrets, No, but I regret when it has and
involves a joke, involves somebody's like actual feelings. It's just
(09:22):
not cool because I wouldn't want that to be done
to me. So I hope he accepts my apology.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Oh, you don't know if he does or not.
Speaker 1 (09:28):
Well, he did respond to the email, but like.
Speaker 2 (09:31):
It was, I don't know if he actually really you know, I.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Don't know until I see him, you know, but I'd
love for him to come on the pod.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Oh that'd be awesome.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Oh my god, yes, up to him.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Let's let's let your fans start to tell him go
on the podcast. Thank you guys. Having a cleansing moment
like I had, would Julie Moon best, you know.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
Like great, what happened with that again? You know?
Speaker 2 (09:51):
Baby?
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Like, no, I know that my listeners, don't.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
You know that we've reconnected and we made up.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
That's what I'm Yes, I know, okay, I know, but.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
But what I'm saying is, you know, it's always like
nice to be able to heal pieces of ourselves, whether yeah,
and I'm not saying you need to bring back toxic
people in your life like you don't.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
You don't need to forgive, forgive.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
You don't need to, like you know, become best friend. No,
you don't need to become best friend. You don't need
to enter into a relationship with them again if you
don't want that relationship in your life anymore. However, saying
your piece without thinking you're going to get anything back,
just kind of heals a little piece of your of course,
you like I've sent apologies and still block the person
(10:32):
I just because I didn't want anything back, just I
wanted them to know that I apology.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
You wanted to make amends. It's in the twelve step. Yes, yes, exactly, Yes, no,
and it does make you feel better.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It does. Was Season seventeen your favorite season? Be honest?
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Duh, that's a one word answer.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
No, seriously, No, it was so forget about.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
You for a second. Yes, it was, Honestly, I have
to say, still to this day, who is your favorite partner?
I get asked this constantly, and it's plural because I've
been on the show forever. But Jack Osborne was one
of them. Yes, And it wasn't because we won because
we didn't. It wasn't because about how far we went.
It's purely because of just the person. I always say this,
I don't. I'd much rather have a partner who I
(11:23):
can actually communicate and respect on a human to human
level than actually dance with someone who may not be
able to communicate as well and be a good dancer.
I've had different types, and I've had those two options.
With Jack, it was a journey he was dealing with
MS still is, but like it was just it meant
(11:44):
more than a chasha, it meant more than a paddle.
And then on top of it, the camaraderie. Obviously, that's
when I met you. That's when you know. It was
just different back then, and not different in a bad way.
I'm not saying this in a negative way. It was
just it was a different show, just like it was
different back in season too than it was seventeen.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
You know, And this is my opinion, This is just
my opinion, but I believe that it became less. I
think a lot of the times the pros had bigger
names than the celebrities that were on the show. And
I also think the judging, you know, without Len, it's
difficult because you know, he is truly the guyfather, but
(12:21):
he's also I mean, you could tell me, Cheryl, but
he really is the only accomplished ballroom dancer. So this
is the rest of what I wrote. So it's crazy
that you said this. Okay, listen to.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
This same with your interview.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Listen because I go with season seventeen your favorite season, right,
you answered this, But this is the rest of it.
I said because knowing you and subsequent seasons and watching
you with subsequent partners, I could honestly say I feel
you were the most chill and happy with Jack Osborne.
And why do you think that was? And it's so
true because I have known you since and I've seen
(12:56):
you with other partners, and you've tried very hard, but
there was something very special about you and Jack. And
you know, Tony and I used to come and visit
you and in your dance and nobody really did that
like that wasn't.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Cool, I guess, but show and tell.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
You were always coming into our room, and we were
always going into your room, and you know, Jack welcomed
me and I for me seeing Jack dealing with what
he was dealing with mentally and physically, and I said
to you even that night, I said, Cheryl, you guys
should have won because Jack made the most improvement. Like,
(13:32):
to me, that's what the show should be. It's not
because Jack went from really literally not dancing to this
beautiful dance that you did with him in a tuxedo
or what was the tales I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (13:44):
But yeah, it was our freestyle in his tail suit.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
I remember just crying.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
I was, Oh, I was crying. That's how much you
can tell that, like, and that has a lot to
do with how hard I work for myselfe as well.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I know you're like so invested.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
And he just gave it back my sarca. He just
threw it in my face right back.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
I love it all the care that you had with Jack,
Like it really showed you guys had a real relationship.
I mean I cried, you cried, and I just I
saw you so invested, Cheryl, like and not that you
weren't invested in other seasons that I seen you in,
but your heart was with Jack, and I think that's important.
(14:22):
These connections are very important, and I think sometimes the show,
including me, including you, the pros, the producers, everybody kind
of lose sight of why the relationship here actually is.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Important, right, and it's the heart of the.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Heart of the show because it does come across and
people were voting for you guys and keeping you in it,
and I only wish that I was there with you.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
But also staying with the journey like this is why
the reality of what's happening in the studios is very
important to capture. I think like with former showrunners, you know,
I'm not saying it's wrong, right, but like what was
missing was that you could see that the packages were
a little scripted, you know, And and now with Conrad back,
I think it's going back to like the reality of
the situation because how do how does anyone get invested
(15:10):
if it's not real? Like in general, I.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
Agree, I mean I haven't seen it yet because to me,
it's falling away from again traditional like Lynn would have,
you know, been very strict about like I want to
see a chatcha.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
You would have been actually, you would have been pleasantly
surprised with Latin night.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
It was all Latin music, okay, but that's yes one night,
But I would have liked to I want to see
that throughout the show, right and totally, which is why
not only is Lynn going to be missed, but it
just his presence. He was such a big presence and
off off camera. You know Len as you know you've
had a relationship with him, but my experience there, he
(15:47):
was so even when I when I was there as
a dancer, he was always so kind to me in
the hallways. I mean, it wasn't like you're not allowed
to talk to him. You're allowed to talk to it.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
No. Yeah, but he and hopefully he can get a
note or two, but yeah, he was relax Like he.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Was the only one that ever said like, relax, you're
doing great. You're not a dancer, just enjoy your tivyer.
And you know, this is the kind of wisdom that
you get from people who are not in it, you
know for like you know, whatever reason, right, but but
in it for the love of dance. And and like
that's why Len doesn't give a shit, uh you know
the response of the audience because he's telling you the truth,
(16:26):
and he's telling you what this is, what this is
this man's work. So if he says it wasn't it
wasn't great period like speaking and you know you I
just it's anyway. But he's uh. He was a beautiful
man and so gracious off screen and he's just missed.
I'm sure he.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
Never sugarcoated anything Like what you see on screen was
of what he is.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
And it's done with love. That's the thing. It's like
when I give a note to somebody, like it's because
I care, like when I when I don't care, I go, oh,
that looks great, that's awesome because I I'm like unknotable.
So there's some point.
Speaker 1 (17:02):
And that was the love for ballroom like honestly, And
that's one thing I'm seeing now actually is that like
there was a quick step done and we were supposed
to stay and hold and they are not in hold
whoever I forgot, but that would have been not okay.
And so the challenge of Dancing with the Stars is
to ballroom dance, no matter what. Right, That's what the
challenge is. Is not to do anything you want. Is
(17:22):
not a free for all. And I think that now
you're losing the challenge.
Speaker 2 (17:26):
Sometimes saying that's what I'm saying. Yeah, you have somebody
who's doing, you know, a very pair down you know dance, right,
but it's technically difficult, technically correct, and you know it
doesn't have all the hooplah and a stitch azz. Yeah,
you know, gimmicks bullshit, because I don't like none of
that bullshit. Yeah, I didn't like it when I was there,
when we did all that stuff, Like I was like, listen,
(17:47):
I want to do a chatcha. I want to do
a rumba. I want to you know, I want to
do a samba, like if I'm doing a ballroom. Sure,
I want to do ballroom, right. I want to learn it,
and now I'm learning it right because I really did
want to learn it.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Now. I think this is also a reason why maybe
I left a little bit too.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
It must be difficult, right.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know my expert my expertise, I wasn't. I didn't
get trained in other styles. I've only been trained in ballroom.
And I think that when you know you are the
only one, let's say left in a way, I know
Danielle and Pasha, but this is even before they joined.
It feels like where but so then I'm no longer
needed when I have to feel when I'm insecure about
(18:28):
getting a contemporary routine, let's say, and I'm like dreading it.
How do you think my celebrity is going to feel,
you know, like it's like we've lost for me. I
was hired because I knew ballroom, right, and then what
you know, it kind of veered off. But that's okay.
And again the show evolves. I evolve. We all evolve
as humans, whether you're like it or girl.
Speaker 2 (18:48):
That's like me being asked to do a sitcom and
then do you know, like f your you're all right,
you're a girl from Brooklyn. Now do Macbeth. You know,
it's like, what are you talking? I don't have any
ac what do you talk? You get somebody who does this.
I don't do this, and I have right, got a
crylic nails, I got like serowsky, like I'm not the
girl for this, you know, I mean, and and by
the way, I don't want to do it, you know
(19:10):
what I mean, Like I don't. I don't want to
do those types of things. So I understand you say so,
and I and I think it's important, you know, Cheryl,
we should just do our own ballroom showing. Maybe do
a I mean, we should just do anyone listening we
want to do we want to we want a traditional
ball and by the way, still appreciate.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
No I mean traditional like the people need to all
dance together on the same dance floor, same dance and
nobody knows the song until it plays. That's a traditional
freaking competition.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
With ballroom judges like from black I like, you know,
like yeah yeah, And you can be a judge too.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
No, I don't want to because I'd like to speak
my mind. They don't speak.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
No, No, you can be the one that speaks their mind.
And then we'll and then we'll have like an uptight
technical judge and then you like the mouth of all that,
that'll be me, and we'll like get somebody like Max
so you can argue, like I want to see some argument.
I want to see some you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I like it.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
Well, that was all the questions I had for you, Cheryl.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
I think, oh, we should think of some rapid fire
because this is what the highlight is.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
I don't do that nonsense. No, I don't want to
get my friend in trouble in any way.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
I love you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Okay, you want to rapid fire question, Cheryl? Sure, let's
end off with something positive. Okay, dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
I mean, this whole thing is positive in my eyes.
Dancing with the Stars has been life changing. It has been.
It has allowed me to figure out who I am
as a woman. It has freed me from being inside
my head, which was back in the day, someone who
(20:56):
was insecure and didn't have a voice. It has given
me the platform and in a way has given me
a lot of self esteem to continue and move forward.
And honestly, back in the day, when I was twenty
one moving here, I wasn't even able to put two
words together. And so you know, like I said during
my retirement, like this has been the most incredible experience
(21:21):
and I've met such amazing people that I will forever
be friends with. Yes, because of this show, there's been
a through line, and this through line has been Dancing
with the Stars.
Speaker 2 (21:30):
Yes. And by the way, just to be fair, don't
be so precious dancing with the Stars. You're allowed to
get some notes, Like we get notes every day. I
get notes every fucking day this show on social Yeah,
Like it's okay to take some notes, Like you can improve,
we could all improve. Yeah, I'm pervious to change and
to getting notes from people to make the show better.
Like everybody loves the show. That's why we talk about
(21:52):
it because we want to be better.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
You're just stepping into our living room, like you're just
stepping into me and Leah's conversation every day. Likely, there's
nothing negative about this. There's nothing negative.
Speaker 2 (22:04):
About people telling me, you know you could be a
better interview. Shut up when people are talking like I
take note. Okay, I'm trying. I know I interrupted you
ten times, but you know I'm aware of it now.
Well I wasn't aware of it before my.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
And I definitely interrupted you. That's what I do.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
But that's okay. We could learn and we could evolve,
and you know, no one's setting out to hurt anybody's feeling.
I'm still a fan of the show. You're still a
fan of the show. We still wanted to Tom Bergeron.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
Still a fan. Everyone's a fan.
Speaker 2 (22:31):
And the only reason why people are talking about is
because they care. They were hurt, or they want they
still wanted to be part of it, or didn't like
the way it ended, and they have a right to
say that. Don't be so precious, everybody.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Amen, and I love you, I love you more.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
And I'm so proud of your growth, like even with everything,
because you have a right to feel the way you
feel about you know, your experience there, but that you're
growing through it, right, and we're not this.
Speaker 1 (22:58):
Is the best therapy ever.
Speaker 2 (23:00):
Listen, We're not going to be perfect when we're talking
and healing and trying to manage our feelings.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Like she's I'm also still grieving. Hello, my name is
Sherif's work. I was a part of a show for
seventeen years. I'm grieving and my new job is to
watch it still as I'm grieving exactly. But that's not
a bad thing and it's not negative.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Nobody has a right to say you can only heal
by saying positive things like this is that?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Who said that to you? Liah?
Speaker 2 (23:25):
Nobody we talk about that. I'm just saying, if there's
any criticism about.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
It, there is that.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
That shit needs to stop. People have a right to heal,
and if they say hurtful things, guess what she'll apologize.
Guess what she'll realize it maybe a year down the
line too. Maybe she'll never realize it. Maybe she obviously
Wait a minute, maybe she was never wrong in the
first place. Maybe she's saying exactly what she should say
for her therapist or per psychology, or like you know
(23:51):
what I mean, like, for me, it doesn't matter. I'm
just giving an example. Like, no, I know, nobody has
a right to say that's the right way to heal,
and you should only open your mouth when you're completely
healed and have exactly the right thing to say.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
This is part of the journey of feeling. Yes. And
also I can't help but even ask you this question too, Like,
obviously I am ruffling some feathers because I wasn't invited
to do the tribute, which is fine, I totally it's
not about me. It's about lend and whatever that is,
so be it, and I've made peace with it. But
I just my hope is not to be invited. Believe me.
(24:26):
It's just to have people understand that I am still
so in love with this show. I will forever be
a fan and I respect all every single person involved.
I respect them so much and I understand I get it.
But again, like you said this, I have a right
to my feelings, and so does everyone on the show.
It comes on exactly. Yeah, and let it, let it,
(24:48):
let it be.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
Let the person got it be Yes.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
Yeah, I love you. I love you, honey, thank.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
You, thank you. I'll see you soon. Get to bacon.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Shut up, I'm still not baking cheese.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
You are?
Speaker 1 (25:00):
You already said yes, that's so disgusting. Ew you put
like a bunch of cream cheese in like like in
my nails.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You hear what?
Speaker 1 (25:07):
I love you everybody. By the way, I have the
same suit jacket, are similar you do? Can't wait to
wear it? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Oh my god, we're going to twinsies.
Speaker 1 (25:16):
Okay, okay, thank you for listening.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Everybody. Love you.
Speaker 1 (25:19):
Make sure you guys follow us at sex Lies and
spray tands on our Instagram handle and make sure your comment.
Let me know who you want me to interview. What
do you all think? Let me know
Host
Cheryl Burke
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