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matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty
five years, I've been on a journey to prove the
existence of life after death. On each episode, will discuss
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the reasons we now know that our loved ones have
survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades
of the Afterlife. Over two years ago, I was delighted
to be asked to host Shades of the Afterlife. The
folks that Coast to Coast AM recognized me for the
work I do on my other podcast, which is called
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We Don't Die Radio. Now going on close to four
hundred episodes. I still keep that show going. There longer
episodes typically where I just interview one person, whereas this show,
you know you hear more from me. You may hear
on various different topics. I do have listeners that listen
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to both shows, and there is great content on both shows.
Why I bring this up today is every so often
there is a show that is so powerful that it
just needs to be shared to as many people as possible,
and this show is one of them. So if you
also listen to We Don't Die Radio, you might have
heard this last week. But it's on a very important topic,
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and it is drug overdose fentanyl, a problem that is
so big in the United States, probably in many other
countries as well. I just heard on the news yesterday
the deaths from fentanyl overdose is the leading cause of
death between eighteen and forty five years old, and that
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is ridiculously awful. Our guest today is someone whose son
has passed from a fentanyl overdose. He suffered from anxiety
and sleep disorders and he trusted a friend with here,
take this, this will help you relax, and it pushed
him into the afterlife. Carol Cooper is the author of
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the book Knock Knock, It's Me Mom. She also wrote
a second book called My Broken Heart Lives On Without You.
Incredible stories of hope and unconditional love from our loved
ones in heaven. And if this episode can save just
one life, it's worth it. So welcome to our show,
Carol Cooper. Thank you so much. I'm very excited to
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be here. Me to me too, And just a big
long distance hug from all of us for everything you've
been through. But I know, you know, sometimes it's our
darkest times that lead to being able to serve others,
you know. So with that, why don't you let us
know a little bit about you, where you're from, a
little bit about your background, and then just if you
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could use the story of Brian. Yes, thank you. So.
My name is Carol Cooper. I'm originally from Chatham, New Jersey.
I'm moved up to Pennsylvania recently, um where it's very quiet. Um.
I was a mother of Brian Durson, who was my
only child. We had a very strange relationship. Brian suffered
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from separation anxiety disorder. So for a good part of
my life I was basically you know joined at the
hit to him. He suffered terribly from mental illness, to
the point where he was always worried about me, so
he would call ten fifteen times a day. This went
on until his college years. He was very obese. He
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had a size fifty two waste when he was twelve,
so he had a very low opinion of himself. So
with the way issue and the anxiety issue, he always
suffered and you know, had a very difficult childhood and
of course was bullied. You know. Fast forward, Brian ended
up losing a tremendous amount away a hundred twenty five pounds.
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He became six ft two hundred and eighty pound, gorgeous
young man who went to Mommouth College. He was extremely intelligent.
He ended up working at Morgan Stanley where he ran
three departments. You know, this is very common for children
who have addiction. They always seemed to be extremely intelligent
and extremely good looking. For some reason, Brian suffered from
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you know, anxiety and had difficulty sleeping, and I know
he was taking a lot of ambience to try to sleep. Um.
I was not aware that Brian had a drunk problem.
You know, they do hide it well, but I honestly
believe that he was taking adderbal which was prescribed, and
he was taking this ambien to try to sleep. As
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time went on, he was taking more and more and
it wasn't working, and he was getting other issues from
the medications, such as restless lake syndimen. All that so
long story short. One night, when I was not able
to find him, which was very unusual, I had the
superintendent to a well check on him and they found
him in the bathroom and he had passed. And I
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later went on to find out that somebody came to
his house to give him something to help him to
relax and to sleep, which was his big issue in life,
and it was spent in all lays heroin and that
was the end. And I didn't even know what that was.
I thought the death, we had a heart attack or
an aneurysm. Drugs were the firstest thing from my mind.
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So with me, I wasn't able to, you know, provide
any help for him because I didn't know. I don't
know if that's good or bad. I don't know if
it's easier to live with somebody and watch them go
through addiction and relapse or or it had just happen.
But it did happen, and um I went on to
become an advocate for drug awareness. I had two choices
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after he passed, very common most people after they lose
a child. I shouldn't say most, but a lot of
us have those thoughts of I don't want to be
here anymore. I didn't feel like I had any reason
to be here because he was my only child and
my life revolved around him and my entire world. But
was bryant as his was with me, and so I
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did contemplate suicide. I was very close, but something in
my head said, it's not your time. You couldnot do this.
It was a very powerful moment for me, and so
I had two choices. I could either to die or
continue to live on and try to live for him.
And the reason that I didn't do it was because
I was not a belief in the afterlife. I was
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brought up to believe there is no such thing. My
father was that type of a person. Like talk about skeptics,
I don't think there was any bigger skeptic than my dad,
and he always taught us to believe that when you die,
to die, and that's it. So for me, I figured, well,
if I do, I'm not going to see him and
then where am I going? And that scared me to death.
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So I guess it was part of my journey, and
I did not do that. So I was a special
education teacher at the time of Brian's passing, and I
worked with artistic children, and that was my passion. I
think because Brian had all those issues. My heart was
with people who had differences or did not fit into society.
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And so in my fifties, I went back to college
and I got my masters and special education and I
taught artistic children and that became a passion for me.
I created these bears called the Ready Set Go Anti
Bullying Bears, which taught children how to stand up for themselves,
how to built positive self esteem. They came with a
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book that a little story book that I wrote about
two little children that didn't want to go to school.
They met an old woman and she said, what's wrong,
and they said, I'm bullied. I don't want to go
to school. I don't like it. And she taught them
the ready set Go method, which was get ready to
overcome your fears, set your goals high, can go out
there and be the best it can be, and she
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told them to repeat that two Ready Set go. When
they opened their eyes, they both turned into superheroes. And
it came with the pendant that had the ready set going.
At the end it said, now you take off the
pendance so you too can be a superhero, and they
wore it, and all the kids in school were carrying
the bears around wearing dependance. I made a cartoon that's
on my website of bears. It was very very feeling
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to me to see, you know, how I was able
to help these through a there. And then after he passed,
I left my job. I couldn't do it anymore. And
I sat on the couch and I said, what am
I supposed to do? Now? You know where am I
supposed to go? I do have a significant other who
was very very helpful to me, and he sat down
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and he held my hand and we cried, and he said,
you have to live for him. You have to cannot
just give up. I know how hard it is. I
know he was your world. And I always said, you
know I'm strong. I feel I'm a very strong woman.
But I said, please don't ever take my child. That's
one thing I could not be able to deal with.
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And when I when Brian was taken, I found such
inner strength somewhere. I think it was God coming to
me to say it's not your time. You have a mission,
you have a purpose. And it was like an awakening.
And I said to my boyfriend, I have to start
a founding and he said, you know you're ready to
do that. And I said, I have to do that.
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And I just sat down and I came up with
a life for Brian because I wanted to save just
one life for Brian. So I called it a Life
for Brian and I within three months, I had it
up and running. I was already connecting myself with other
foundations such as Stopped the Heroine Silent Epidemic, King's Crusade.
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All these other people were coming to me that had
similar missions in life, and we all came together and
we developed the website called got Recovery dot org where
people can actually go and ask for assistance and we
collaboratively get together and we fund these people into sober living.
Received countless letters from people who have said I've changed
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their lives. I've saved their lives, um an angel, I
mean without me, they don't know where they'd be and
some became like children to make, isn't it. It's funny
how I don't have Brian, but yet now I have
these other people that are children to make that I've helped,
and I feel so rewarded so to continue on. After
I started my foundation, I had my bear and it
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didn't fit in with what I was doing, and I
just put it in the closet one neat thing. I
was sitting there and it's like I hear voices in
my head. It's probably Briant and he says, Mom, You've
got to do something with your bear. It's too nice
to just leave in the closet. So I came up
with comfort there, and it's bears that help people in
their time of brief and they can hold it in
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the hour of darkness. This was one that I did
for drug awareness with the Purple. It says, when you
feel like you can't bear the pain, hug this bear
and say my name. It has a little lock it
around its neck that opens up and you could either
put your child's picture, ashes, or anything that reminds you
of your child. The ready, set go needs, get ready
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to carry on, set a goal and go out there
and cherish your loved one. And it also came with
the gift card that brain the message and traveled all
over the country. It's all over the internet. People have
sent me pictures with your children that say they can't
sleep without it. Um. I even made one for suicide
awareness with the colors purple and turquoise with the suicide headbands.
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I also have some that teach how to build positive
self esteem when you're in active addiction. Those are my
anti addiction bears. They're superheroes. They come with the pamphlet
that tells you what to do when you feel like
you're at your weakness time. And those became very popular.
And I also used them to fund my foundation so
that I can help others. And by the way, this
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was my beautiful son, Brian. He was such a handsome
young man and I can't believe he's gone. Heartbreaking story,
but wait till you hear the signs that she's gotten
from him. And then also this information you absolutely need
to know and share about Fenton al and how it's
being passed. It can save many lives. Will be right back.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain
and we are with Carol Cooper, who is a crusader
and activist after the death of her son, which was
caused by drug laced with fentanyl. Did you bring up
fenton al? And that's something that I really need to
address because while I have been active in advocating for
drug awareness, I do go different places into schools because
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it's very important for young people to hear what's going on.
A lot of people are not aware of the dangerous
of fentan al. And I do meet people when I'm
doing events. Sometimes they'll say to me, thank goodness, my
child does not do heroin, And I said, please, you
cannot say that because I have met so many people,
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and I have to tell you there's several people that
lost their child to marijuana, lay spent in all um purposets,
any type of pill. They say now on the incidet
when pill can kill. That has become very popular because
they're putting it in everything. And one story I always share,
a young mother reached out to me to share a
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story which I never ever stopped talking about the story
and telling it. Her daughter went to a party. She
was having menstrual cramps and somebody at the party gave
her an ivy profriend and she died on the floor.
It was laced with men to all. So, how can
people possibly say that you're safe if you don't do heroin,
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Because now it's in everything. You have to be so careful.
They're putting it in candy now, and that's why there's
chilled that are dying in schools that are ten, eleven,
twelve years old. It was on the news, It's on
the internet. Also, children are getting this the dark web.
It's as easy to order pills right now as it
is to order a jacket pair of shoes on the internet.
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These kids nowhere to go to the dark web and
it cannot be traced. These people are very good at
what they do to get these kids fir it. So
I tell parents, no matter what you feel, you have
to be in your child's face. You have to look
at their internet, look at their telephone, no matter what
they say. Believe me, you don't want to be in
my shoes. And if it means saving a child's life,
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then that's what you have to do. There was a
very famous woman who lost her son to fentnol in
a pill and I can't remember her name. She wrote books.
I can't remember her name, but she lost her son
and he got a pill from the dark web. And
she said that she was always talking to him about drugs,
always you know, looking at what he was doing. But
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she never went into these computer because she trusted him.
And now she's so sorry that she didn't do that
because she feels that she did, she might have been
able to intercept this. So it's very important to talk
to your children to watch what they're doing and if
you see any change in behavior, if you're isolated, if
they're in the rooms, if they're not taking care of themselves,
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if their habits are changing, if they seem to be
nodding off, these are all signals that you need to
look for because you don't get a second chance with
bent and all. It's that bad. And there's now drugs
out there that are resistant to even nar can. I
mean they're coming out with all different kinds of things
now where in our cant's not working. So this is
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very very serious and it's something you really need to
be aware of. And very conscious with your children, because
I didn't know Brian had a drug problems. So if
I live with the what it's and the coud ups,
you can't do that. It happens. You have to just
move on and try to help others through your story,
which is what I do. By sharing my story, I
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hope it brings some kind of awareness out there to
parents that might not be aware that this is happening.
And if I could just save one life, that's what
I'm here for. And so I constantly talk about this issue,
and I'm always here. If you've lost a child and
you're grieving and you need someone to talk to and
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you just don't know where to go and what to do. Please,
I'm so reachable on the computer on you can reach
me through my website, you can reach me through Facebook. Um,
just a phone call away or a text away. I
always respond to every single message that I get, just
like you're my best friend. So please, if you feel
like you need that, you just reach out to me.
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Bless you for doing that. Wow wow wow wow. Okay
with that. You've got two books, and by the sounds
of the books, it sounds like your son has been
in touch. Could you talk about what's in your journey,
when did it happen, and what kind of thing started
happening to have you know that he's still alive, and
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I believe he's your partner on getting this message out.
So again, like I said, after Brian passed, I was
not a believer, and then suddenly things started happening like
things that got my attention because I didn't know what
a sign was. I didn't know anything like that. I never,
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you know, even looked into anything like that because again
I was a nonbeliever. So the first thing that happened
to me was when this happened. My birth and said
you need to go see a Greek therapise. I said, yes,
I do, and I was living in Chatham, and so
I went on a website and it tells you different
talents from A to Z and you picked the one
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where you're in, and then it lists different therapists in
your area. So I went down the list. It started
with like Aberdeen and all the way down to Z
and when I got to the Chatham, it was all
capital letters but no other words were just Chatham. And
I said, oh my god, what is that? So I
ran outside. I got my boyfriend. I said, look, how
come Chatham's capitalized? He said, I don't know. Maybe it's
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just the error. I said, but it's the Look, there's
the only word that's capitalized. So he said, I don't know.
So I said, that's weird. So the next day I
went and my girlfriend said, you should take a picture
of that. It's maybe it's a sign from Brian, I said,
I signed. So I went to take a picture and
it was no longer capitalized. It was small letters like
all the rest of the words that got my attention.
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So it didn't do anything to turn me into a believer,
but it definitely got my attention. So then I started
thinking about things. It's just like, am I supposed to
be doing something I don't understand? Like, I was very confused.
I was lost, and I started thinking about things. And
before Brian passed away, I was sitting on my porch
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and at my dogs, and I heard in my head
very clear, your son is going to choke. And I'm like,
oh my god, what is that? So I ran in
to tell my boyfriend. He said, that doesn't sound right.
Maybe because he lives alone, you know, and he eats
so fast. You were just having a bad moment, I said, okay,
so I I let it go. And two months later
it happened again, the same voice in my head, and
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I again told my boyfriend. He said, I don't know
where where do you go with that? I said, I
can't tell Brian because he's going to get scared and
think I'm crazy. So I would call him every night
six seven, eight o'clock to eat dinner yet and he said, Mom, please,
what do you ask me that question? So fast forward
one month later, my son passed from an overdose and
the secondary was asphyxiation. So that came to my head
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like I'm thinking, okay, was that a premonition? Was God
preparing me of something that was coming? And I believe yes,
now that I'm on the spiritual journey, I believe this
was a premonition to prepare me for what was going
to come. So as I'm sitting there, I just said
to myself, maybe I have to start looking for things.
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Maybe he's trying to get my attention. That's where the
knock knockings mean mom came into my head, like knock knock, Mom,
I'm here, knock knock, open your eyes. So when I
would go to different events. I started taking pictures of
these things that were happening, crazy things. The one that
really got my attention because as a skeptic, Brian knew
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you'd have to do something so over the top that
I would believe it. Otherwise, if I saw a penny,
I wouldn't think anything out of the dime. I wouldn't
think anything of it. So he knew he had to
do something absolutely off the chart. Somebody texted me it
was very quiet day. It was on the computer by myself.
Somebody texted me, do you want to get together and
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have some lunch? And it was a bad day and
I didn't want to be rude, but I went to
Texter back to tell her that I'm very sorry, but
you know, it's just not the right time. And where
I would type it, it said, why you know eat
your food? You want mommy to get your chicken? And
I sent it to her because I didn't know what
it was. And she called me on the phone, what
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is that? I said, what does that say? Read it
to me. She says, why do you know? Eat your food?
You want mommy to get your chicken. I dropped the phone.
I dropped to my knees. And I started crying, Brian, Brian,
that's to you. I know it because when he was young,
all he ate was chicken fingers, and I would always say, Brian,
don't you eat anything beside chicken. It was written as
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if a child wrote it. I have a picture of it.
It is in my book. I do share the picture
back up and just say where that picture came from. Again,
it was on my text message like your answer, where
I would have typed I can't make it today. Those
words were written, why you know, eat your food? You
want mommy to get your chicken. It was tight as
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a message, and I sent it to her because I
knew that I had to save it. That was unbelievable.
I could not question it that there was nothing on
the TV that would have had those what I mean.
And it was written like a child. It was just
written like a child. So that definitely got my attention,
and then I knew I had to start my spiritual journey.
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I had to do that. I had to have an awakening.
So at that point I started to become more of
a believer that he was trying to get my attention. Somehow,
I'm thinking this is possible. So the signs started getting
bigger and bigger and bigger, like one was better than
the next. I mean, in my book, I have such
pictures like nobody could believe. That's why I think it
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went to number one, because he is so unbelievable. When
he gives me signs, A lot of people get dimes,
and Brian would send me dimes, leave dimes here and there,
and he knew that it didn't do anything to me,
so he had to be creative. So one day I
was doing a tricky trade for my foundation. I had
this set. It was like a picnic set that had
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you know, works and knives in it. And my girlfriend said,
take the plastic off. It looks like it's spotted and
it's brand new. So I started pulling the plastics off
the knives and she goes, wait a minute, look at
the last night. You forgot one. So I said, oh,
I forgot that one. So I went to pull it out,
and sure enough, in the plastic wedged up to the
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top was a dime. And this was a brand new
set and it was stuck up there. I couldn't even
get it out. I said, oh my god, Brian, really,
I mean, it's you know, and then he started leaving
dimes in different plays. So we always played at the
casino together. That was our big thing in life. We
played the slot machines. We loved doing that. And I
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went to the casino for the first time. It was
so hard to walk in, but there was our machine,
the Wheel of Fortune. I said, Brian, I'm gonna do
this for you. It's so hard, but I'm going there.
There was two machines. They weren't being played. The casino
was packed, but these two machines were open. I walked
over to the machine and they're on the machine is
a ten cents a voucher right in front of the machine.
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So I mean, it's just crazy things like that that
he does to my friends. Listening, you couldn't see Carol
holding up the picture of the knives, but they were
individually wrapped knives, and underneath the cellophane like wrapped with
the knife was one of the dimes that she was
talking about. So pennies and dimes can be a sign, yes,
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but when they're in a really unusual place, that's a
good sign. We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and we are listening to
Carol Cooper, author of Knock Knock, It's Me Mom, talking
about signs from her son Brian. I played the crossword puzzles,
you know, the scratch ups, and I always get words
in there that makes me believe it's him. And I
would always say, Brian, give me my aha moment. Every
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time I got across word puzzle, it always said ah
everyone ha ha ha ha ha ha. And I said,
is that even a word? So I said, Brian, I
know that you you know, keep sending me the word aha,
but can you give me more? I just need a
little bit more. So I go in, I get the
lottery ticket. I looked down. I couldn't not believe it
said aha and then rest in peace son. And the
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word lanterns which is for drug overdose. All those words
in one puzzle, and that is how he gets to me.
That or the that's the way that Brian SAIDs signs.
I mean, I can go on and on and on
and on, but it's just a manny. So my belief
system went from zero percent to why is it not
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a hundred percent? I believe God does want does not
want me to be a hundred percent. He wants me
to have that ten percent doubt because when I get
into those really dark moments, that keeps me here, you know,
but is really good for me. And I know that
he's with me. I know he helped me write this
book because I'm not a writer. I've always been very
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good at writing, but I've never ever thought about writing
a book. And then in three months, I sat down
on the computer and I typed day and night. I
did not stop. Every time I wanted to stop. I
heard his boys, Mom keep going, I got more. I
got more, I got more, and I kept going and
going and going. And when I finally finished it and
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I thought it was perfect, I heard this loud thunder
clapped like he was clapping for me, and I heard
him say, good job, mom. And that was my book.
And there's all saw a chapter on mediums, which I'd
like to real quickly say a shout out to Karen Knowey,
shout out to the late Janet Nhovac. These are two
women that got me through my life. Because if they
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don't connect, it didn't connect Brian. Nobody did Karen knowey.
When I went to see her, immediately she felt Brian
and she said, Who's real b R I A L.
She wrote it down and I started to cry, like
there was no tomorrow. When my dad used to call
my son Brial when he was young and it was
just a made up name, I didn't even remember that,
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And how she would know that if Brian wasn't there
talking to her. That was also an awakening moment for me,
and one that every time I go into that dark moment,
I think about that when she said real and I
knew that he was there with me that day. But
there's so much in this book. I talked about who
I was before Brian, who I was with Brian, and
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who I am now with al Brian. I also talked
about all the groups that howlp me, all the books
that I read that helped me, all the videos that
I watched on YouTube about near death experiences that helped me.
This is a great book for anybody breathing. I mean,
I wish I had this book when I lost Brian
because I think it really would have helped me. And
then the other book that I wrote just to let me. Know.
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I after that book, I said, I'm done. I don't
ever want to write a book. But what happened was
these people reached out to me after they read my book,
and they said, can I share a story with you?
And they were life changing experiences, like they gave me
goose bumps and made me cry, and I said, oh no,
please don't. I said, now I'm gonna want to write
another book. So I did, and it was called My
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Broken Heart Lives On Without Me. And these are stories
that everybody shared with me. Near death experiences, um bedside
stories when people are dying and they can't move and
then they lift their hands up to reach for God
or an angel, things that pets do or see when
someone dies, things that children say and people die near
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death experiences which are just absolutely unbelievable. And there's so
much more. And this was a very powerful book. And
I'm so blessed that people share their stories with me.
And you know, there's also signs in here as welcome
from people who have, you know, very amazing signs like mine.
So now I'm done writing, but I think that you know,
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this was also part of my journey. I don't know
what the next part is going to be, but I'm
open for anything. I know when it's my time, my
son's gonna come to get me, and I'm going to
have a big party because i know I've done so
much in his name, and I'm always the voice of
other people who can't be a voice. I'm happy to
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share other people's stories whenever they want me to, and
you know, that's my journey, that's my mission. I know
Brian led me to you because he only leads me
to the best people, people that honestly with Janet Nahobek.
When I first us Brian people, she was very, very big,
and she was one that I really thought I needed
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to see. But when I called, there was a two
year way and I said, oh my god, I can't
wait two years to see her. I don't know if
I'll make it two years. And the woman on the
phone was so apologetic, but she said, there's nothing I
could do but put you on the list. And then
I went to a compassionate Friends group and I met
this beautiful woman who lost her son. We connected immediately,
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and like a week later she called me. She said,
I don't know if you'd be interested. But about two
years ago I signed up with this woman, Janet Nhope,
and I got an hour appointment, but I only need
a half hour. Would you want the other half hour?
And I dropped. I said what And I told her
that I had just called to get an appointment. I said,
that's my son, Brian. He knew that I needed this,
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and sure enough I went the next week and I
got a reading and it was so helpful to me. So,
I mean, this is what happens. He leads me in
the path of the right people. He no who I
need to connect with. Yeah, one other thing I want
to say, who sold me my house? Um? I came in.
This was only like several weeks ago. He lost his
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daughter too. She was like fourteen on a on an
accent with a four wheeler. And you know, we became
friends after he sold my house because we both had
this in common. We both lost their children and he
was having a really really hard time even though she
passed so long ago. And I just a couple of
weeks ago. I came in from walking my dogs. I
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looked at my phone and I saw I had a
missed call from him, and I said, wow, why would
he call me? It's like nine thirty. So I called
back and he answered the phone. He sounded very upset.
I said, Hi, this is Carol. I saw you just
called and he said, who is this? I said, Carol,
the one you sold the house too. Be goes Oh, Hi,
I said, I just noticed a missed call. He said,
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I didn't call you. He's my phone wasn't even here.
I'm just sitting here. I'm having a really bad moment
right now, and I'm in a door place and I
don't know what to do. We stayed on the phone
for half an hour. By the time we hung up,
he was laughing and he said, you just saved my
life and he didn't even call me. So this is
how Brian leads me to people for things that I
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need to do. He is such a good partner with me,
and I know he couldn't do this when he was
here because he had too many issues. I know now
he's free from all of this, and he's able to
use his intelligence, his strength, his love, everything in his
power to work with me and be the best partner
that anyone could ever ask for. And I'm blessed to
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be able to do this for others. I am just
amazed and I think the next step for you is
just sharing, sharing, sharing as much as you can about
the book, the stories. In a second, I wanted you
to just think of maybe a couple of stories from
your second book to share, because we love stories, and
I know our listeners are going to pick up a
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copy of your book. Um is it on Kindle? Also
it is. It's not perfect perfect, because you know, I'm
a kind of Galt likes to right, you know, read
them right away. But maybe a couple of stories from
your second book. But I just wanted to talk about
you had said, I don't think as human beings we
are designed to be able to understand the bigger picture.
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I don't, and I think game might not be the
best word for this, But when we come to life,
we'll say the game of life it is experiences for
our soul. It is learning, it is growing, and when
we transition will maybe figure out what it was all for.
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But I think part of life really is to get
the most experiences we can. So even myself, Carol, who's
had twenty five years now of gathering afterlife evidence, even
taking courses on mediumship and things, and through my own mind,
my own voice, I have given people details of their
loved one. I have recorded electronic voice phenomena, I have
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heard the voices. I have witnessed miracles that I couldn't
even begin to describe. Yet I wake up in the
morning thinking it was all that just a dream? Did
this all happened? And fear comes into my life just
like everybody else. So I don't think we are designed
to really get it, because if we knew really how
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powerful we are, that we're souls having a human experience,
that our loved ones are still around us, cheering us on,
that we can create miracles. I mean, you know, down
to each little atom within our being, all we are
is vibrating invisible energy. And somebody just reminded me the
other day of our eyes. You know, we think we're seeing,
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but it's really our brain is doing things and we
are miracles. So anyone who has that skeptical mind, it
is normal. It is natural. It is part of our
humanity to help us remember or play this game called life,
as difficult as it is. But we get people like
Carol that we hear the words and we get the
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signs from Brian. I love having the time wrapped within
the knife there. That's great. Be gentle on yourself everyone.
Our loved ones want to get us to know that
they're alive. They do and they want us to live
our lives powerfully. But like Carol and myself, if we
can help someone go on with life, because when we
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experience grief, there's a lot of people that the first
reaction is I want to take myself out of this life.
Either can't handle the pain or want to be with
their loved one. There is value to being here on earth.
So I really applaud Carol for taking the grief and
turning it into something big with the books, with the
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bears and just with all of your speaking. So wow,
so book. Like I said, the life change experiences. Also,
there was could the Stranger Be My Angel? Where a
stranger comes into your life and gives you a message
something that you need to hear. There was a few
stories like the near death experiences are the ones that
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we hit home with me the most because these people
actually went there and saw their loved ones. They were
very credible. I only went with the people that it's
funny whenever I heard a story, if I get chills,
that means Brian said, that's the one you need to
put in your book. It's it's validation chills, I call it.
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And every time I did hear a story, and I
heard so many, and I'm so thankful that people shared
so many stories, but it was only a few that
gave me those validation chills, especially the near death experiences.
Let's go into our last break and then we'll hear
more stories from Carol Cooper. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio it Coast to
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Coast am hair a normal podcast network. Welcome back to
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Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and you're hearing
from Carol Cooper, whose son had an accidental overdose and
brought him to this spirit world. She's the author of
Knock Knock, It's Me Mom, and she's also got a
second book, My Broken Heart Lives On Without You, which
are filled with stories from people who have had experiences
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of signs from the afterlife. Carol's website is a Life
for Brian dot Org. All the proceeds of her book
and these care bearers that she has all goes to
her foundation, in turn goes to help those struggling with
addiction and mental illness. She also provides funding to those
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in need of shelter, many of whom which are homeless.
So she's a very passionate woman that has really turned
a dark time in her life into hope for so
many people. So I'm sure you can understand why I
wanted you to hear her words. And really, we can
each make a difference in our own special way. So
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Carol was just about to tell us a story about
someone with a near death experience. Let's continue this one gentleman.
He was so humble. He said he would never share
his story unless he was asked, and he said, and
you have asked, and therefore I will share. And he
did share his story where he did go to the
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other side, and you know, he says, you will see
people that your grandmother, your great grandmother, great great great
great grand and goes back and back, and you will
know people you get there. And he he spoke to
me in the text after he shared his story when
I thanked him for sharing, as if he was with
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Brian talking to me, because he kept telling me, you're
in the light right now. You have something you need
to do. Brian is working with you. He's very proud
of you. You will see Brian again, and I mean
it was so powerful, the chills, I felt like I
was gonna shake. I was so you know, moved by
what this man said. And you know, his mere death
experience was similar to other people's. I mean it seemed
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like people either saw Jesus, they saw God. They were
told why they were there, why they have to come back.
Sometimes they were told things to come, that we're going
to come, as almost like a forewarning. Even though sometimes
it wasn't something that great, but it was very life
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changing these experiences. When they came back, they were different
people and they had they knew what their mission in
life was. I also shared a story of a gentleman
who lost his son. He had a sign that that
I always talked about. He lost his son and the
fire in um Rhode Island. It was on the news.
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It was a big fire. His son perished in the fire.
He was young, he was in the band, and his
wife had such a difficult time except it happened to
her his son. And they were in the car one
day and she said, I wonder did he hurt like
you know the fire was was he in pain? And
he said, how many times do I have to tell you,
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he's fine. You've heard this so many times before, while
are you, you know, bringing it up again? She says,
I just feel like he might have been hurting. And
then they were cut off by a car and the
license plate said no pain. That was that cut in
front of them, Yes, no pain. So the other one
that I loved as well. I mean, there's so many
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good stories in here. I mean, it's just unbelievable. This woman,
the grandmother, she had rettin of problems and she was
going flying at the end, and she never got a
chance to see her grandson. So after she passed, the
daughter took a picture of her grandson and he was encompassed.
I don't know if you could see this, probably not,
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but he was encompassed inside an eye, an eyeball. It
just surrounds him in the exact shape of an eye,
and it's like I see you now. So I mean,
it's just beautiful stories. I mean, I could talk from
now untill tonight about the beautiful stories in Europe. But
you know, I encourage you if you need something that's
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gonna make you smile. With my books, I tried to
keep the very positive. There's so many stories out there
that are so sad, and a lot of people are
hesitant to read these kind of books because they just
like one woman said, I couldn't get past the title
without crying. I want to say I really kept it positive.
My books are more helpful. I mean, I tried to
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make it so that when you read, you're gonna feel
like hope, you're gonna feel good about yourself. You're not
gonna beat yourself up and feel guilty. But what if
the should have the kudos? I mean, we beat ourselves
up every day with that. And also, you know, some people,
they don't want to smile, they don't want to laugh,
they don't want to go to a restaurant and eat
good food because they feel their child's not there with them,
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or their loved ones not there, or why should they
be having a great meal and you know they're not here.
But you can't do that because I've learned that when
we're happy, they're happy, it raises their energy level. They
don't want to see us crying. They don't because they
know that we're going to be together one day and
that we have something to do here and we have
to try to live every day the best we can
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because tomorrow is never promised, never promised, Carol, Can you
just tell us what we'll find when we go to
a Life for Brian dot org. Yes, you'll find everything
about me and my journey. It has some good news articles.
I did get a lot of media attention over the years.
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It's on Channel twelve News. I was in a lot
of magazines from my autistic anti bulling bears. UM. But
it also has references where you can go and has
that website that I spoke about earlier, and it just
has a lot of information and also it has my
bears if you'd like to see all the different bears
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that I had, it shows, it has my books, and
it's just a good place to go where you can,
you know, see what I'm doing, reach out to me.
I'm happy to provide any resources. If you have children
that are suffering from addiction, mental illness, if you lost somebody,
if you're feeling like you can't get out of bed,
these are all things that I'm here for to help you. UM.
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I encourage you to look at my website, a Life
for Brian dot org and you can just click on
and you can also contact me through there, and I'm
happy to connect with you, Carol to Er, thank you
for being our guest today. Thank you so much. It's
been such a pleasure, and I really appreciate you allowing
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me to share my story. Absolutely, this story needed to
be shared because I know people listening, We all know people.
We can all share. We can all talk about this episode,
we can talk about your books and what you've been through,
and most especially talk about what's happening with the pills.
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And you never know what's out there and what it
could be laced with. So please, ladies and gentlemen listening,
please share, Please, please please, Carol, just one more time,
what's written on the bottom of the bears of foot?
What are the three steps? Ready? Said? Go? Get ready
to carry on said a goal? And go out there
and cherish your loved ones? Perfect, cherish your loved ones.
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We live life like we're going to have all the
time in the world. But when something happens and we realize,
oh we could have, we should have, we didn't, why
didn't I? All of those things go through our mind,
and of course at the time we do the best
we can. But what would it be like to really
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pay attention to the people in our lives and really
consciously loved them, consciously listen to them and be there
for them. And parents, check out your kids computers, their
cell phones, talk to them about drugs, talk to them
about these stories. It was really heartbreaking to hear Carol stories.
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And I know, just again by watching the news how
many deaths are going on with young people right now. Awful.
And while we do continue to live and our loved
ones are healthy, well and alive and we will see
them again, they have been cheated out of having a
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human life, and human life, as hard as it can be,
is really a place for our soul to learn, to grow,
to experience. When you think of your life right now,
you're certainly not the same person that you were as
a kid, were you. No, you needed all of this
life to grow and grow in wisdom. So I think
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the same thing holds true for our soul, which they
are divine and they are special And I don't know,
it is my feeling. There is a lot to embrace
here on planet Earth. And when we do crossover, we
continue to learn, we continue to grow, we continue to love,
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But the more we love, the more grief hurts. And
when somebody leaves this earth before their time, while the
devastation that it can leave behind. I believe these shows
and everything we're up to really is to help people
live a better life. You don't need to go be
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raw raw. I believe in the afterlife and share that
wildly unless you want to. Well, but if you can
make somebody's day a little bit brighter, a little bit better,
be a listener, care, take care of the people in
your life, and most importantly, take care of yourself. Someone
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just emailed me day before yesterday, and this has been
on my mind for maybe the upcoming episode is what
is it really going to take to change the conversation
on planet Earth so that all of mankind believes in
the afterlife. It is possible, but it's going to take something.
So I'm really going to pay some attention to if
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we already had it in our lives like it's always been.
You know, we're living a life that we're easily communicating
with our loved ones. We can all do it psychically,
and we're all using our cell phones and it's easy
to text Grandma or our children or whoever has passed.
What should have happened prior to to make that happen
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and try to do some reverse engineering to see if
together we can make a concentrated effort to make it happen.
I know what's going to happen. I just don't know
when it's going to happen. There are fads that catch
on like crazy, and it can happen with the afterlife
people believing. So I'm committed to that. I am for today.
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Our time is just about up. Thank you for giving
me your time listening to now one and two episodes
quite a commitment. If you do want to check out
my other show, you'll find some different content as well.
It's called We Don't Die Radio. You can find it
on YouTube, you can find it on your favorite podcast channel,
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matter for yourself. Hi. I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty
five years, I've been on a journey to prove the
existence of life after death. On each episode, will discuss
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the reasons we now know that our loved ones have
survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades
of the Afterlife. Over two years ago, I was delighted
to be asked to host Shades of the Afterlife. The
folks that Coast to Coast AM recognized me for the
work I do on my other podcast, which is called
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We Don't Die Radio. Now going on close to four
hundred episodes. I still keep that show going. There longer
episodes typically where I just interview one person, whereas this show,
you know you hear more from me. You may hear
on various different topics. I do have listeners that listen
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to both shows, and there is great content on both shows.
Why I bring this up today is every so often
there is a show that is so powerful that it
just needs to be shared to as many people as possible,
and this show is one of them. So if you
also listen to We Don't Die Radio, you might have
heard this last week. But it's on a very important topic,
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and it is drug overdose fentanyl, a problem that is
so big in the United States, probably in many other
countries as well. I just heard on the news yesterday
the deaths from fentanyl overdose is the leading cause of
death between eighteen and forty five years old, and that
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is ridiculously awful. Our guest today is someone whose son
has passed from a fentanyl overdose. He suffered from anxiety
and sleep disorders and he trusted a friend with here,
take this, this will help you relax, and it pushed
him into the afterlife. Carol Cooper is the author of
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the book Knock Knock, It's Me Mom. She also wrote
a second book called My Broken Heart Lives On Without You.
Incredible stories of hope and unconditional love from our loved
ones in heaven. And if this episode can save just
one life, it's worth it. So welcome to our show,
Carol Cooper. Thank you so much. I'm very excited to
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be here. Me to me too, And just a big
long distance hug from all of us for everything you've
been through. But I know, you know, sometimes it's our
darkest times that lead to being able to serve others,
you know. So with that, why don't you let us
know a little bit about you, where you're from, a
little bit about your background, and then just if you
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could use the story of Brian. Yes, thank you. So.
My name is Carol Cooper. I'm originally from Chatham, New Jersey.
I'm moved up to Pennsylvania recently, um where it's very quiet. Um.
I was a mother of Brian Durson, who was my
only child. We had a very strange relationship. Brian suffered
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from separation anxiety disorder. So for a good part of
my life I was basically you know joined at the
hit to him. He suffered terribly from mental illness, to
the point where he was always worried about me, so
he would call ten fifteen times a day. This went
on until his college years. He was very obese. He
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had a size fifty two waste when he was twelve,
so he had a very low opinion of himself. So
with the way issue and the anxiety issue, he always
suffered and you know, had a very difficult childhood and
of course was bullied. You know. Fast forward, Brian ended
up losing a tremendous amount away a hundred twenty five pounds.
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He became six ft two hundred and eighty pound, gorgeous
young man who went to Mommouth College. He was extremely intelligent.
He ended up working at Morgan Stanley where he ran
three departments. You know, this is very common for children
who have addiction. They always seemed to be extremely intelligent
and extremely good looking. For some reason, Brian suffered from
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you know, anxiety and had difficulty sleeping, and I know
he was taking a lot of ambience to try to sleep. Um.
I was not aware that Brian had a drunk problem.
You know, they do hide it well, but I honestly
believe that he was taking adderbal which was prescribed, and
he was taking this ambien to try to sleep. As
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time went on, he was taking more and more and
it wasn't working, and he was getting other issues from
the medications, such as restless lake syndimen. All that so
long story short. One night, when I was not able
to find him, which was very unusual, I had the
superintendent to a well check on him and they found
him in the bathroom and he had passed. And I
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later went on to find out that somebody came to
his house to give him something to help him to
relax and to sleep, which was his big issue in life,
and it was spent in all lays heroin and that
was the end. And I didn't even know what that was.
I thought the death, we had a heart attack or
an aneurysm. Drugs were the firstest thing from my mind.
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So with me, I wasn't able to, you know, provide
any help for him because I didn't know. I don't
know if that's good or bad. I don't know if
it's easier to live with somebody and watch them go
through addiction and relapse or or it had just happen.
But it did happen, and um I went on to
become an advocate for drug awareness. I had two choices
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after he passed, very common most people after they lose
a child. I shouldn't say most, but a lot of
us have those thoughts of I don't want to be
here anymore. I didn't feel like I had any reason
to be here because he was my only child and
my life revolved around him and my entire world. But
was bryant as his was with me, and so I
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did contemplate suicide. I was very close, but something in
my head said, it's not your time. You couldnot do this.
It was a very powerful moment for me, and so
I had two choices. I could either to die or
continue to live on and try to live for him.
And the reason that I didn't do it was because
I was not a belief in the afterlife. I was
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brought up to believe there is no such thing. My
father was that type of a person. Like talk about skeptics,
I don't think there was any bigger skeptic than my dad,
and he always taught us to believe that when you die,
to die, and that's it. So for me, I figured, well,
if I do, I'm not going to see him and
then where am I going? And that scared me to death.
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So I guess it was part of my journey, and
I did not do that. So I was a special
education teacher at the time of Brian's passing, and I
worked with artistic children, and that was my passion. I
think because Brian had all those issues. My heart was
with people who had differences or did not fit into society.
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And so in my fifties, I went back to college
and I got my masters and special education and I
taught artistic children and that became a passion for me.
I created these bears called the Ready Set Go Anti
Bullying Bears, which taught children how to stand up for themselves,
how to built positive self esteem. They came with a
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book that a little story book that I wrote about
two little children that didn't want to go to school.
They met an old woman and she said, what's wrong,
and they said, I'm bullied. I don't want to go
to school. I don't like it. And she taught them
the ready set Go method, which was get ready to
overcome your fears, set your goals high, can go out
there and be the best it can be, and she
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told them to repeat that two Ready Set go. When
they opened their eyes, they both turned into superheroes. And
it came with the pendant that had the ready set going.
At the end it said, now you take off the
pendance so you too can be a superhero, and they
wore it, and all the kids in school were carrying
the bears around wearing dependance. I made a cartoon that's
on my website of bears. It was very very feeling
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to me to see, you know, how I was able
to help these through a there. And then after he passed,
I left my job. I couldn't do it anymore. And
I sat on the couch and I said, what am
I supposed to do? Now? You know where am I
supposed to go? I do have a significant other who
was very very helpful to me, and he sat down
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and he held my hand and we cried, and he said,
you have to live for him. You have to cannot
just give up. I know how hard it is. I
know he was your world. And I always said, you
know I'm strong. I feel I'm a very strong woman.
But I said, please don't ever take my child. That's
one thing I could not be able to deal with.
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And when I when Brian was taken, I found such
inner strength somewhere. I think it was God coming to
me to say it's not your time. You have a mission,
you have a purpose. And it was like an awakening.
And I said to my boyfriend, I have to start
a founding and he said, you know you're ready to
do that. And I said, I have to do that.
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And I just sat down and I came up with
a life for Brian because I wanted to save just
one life for Brian. So I called it a Life
for Brian and I within three months, I had it
up and running. I was already connecting myself with other
foundations such as Stopped the Heroine Silent Epidemic, King's Crusade.
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All these other people were coming to me that had
similar missions in life, and we all came together and
we developed the website called got Recovery dot org where
people can actually go and ask for assistance and we
collaboratively get together and we fund these people into sober living.
Received countless letters from people who have said I've changed
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their lives. I've saved their lives, um an angel, I
mean without me, they don't know where they'd be and
some became like children to make, isn't it. It's funny
how I don't have Brian, but yet now I have
these other people that are children to make that I've helped,
and I feel so rewarded so to continue on. After
I started my foundation, I had my bear and it
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didn't fit in with what I was doing, and I
just put it in the closet one neat thing. I
was sitting there and it's like I hear voices in
my head. It's probably Briant and he says, Mom, You've
got to do something with your bear. It's too nice
to just leave in the closet. So I came up
with comfort there, and it's bears that help people in
their time of brief and they can hold it in
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the hour of darkness. This was one that I did
for drug awareness with the Purple. It says, when you
feel like you can't bear the pain, hug this bear
and say my name. It has a little lock it
around its neck that opens up and you could either
put your child's picture, ashes, or anything that reminds you
of your child. The ready, set go needs, get ready
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to carry on, set a goal and go out there
and cherish your loved one. And it also came with
the gift card that brain the message and traveled all
over the country. It's all over the internet. People have
sent me pictures with your children that say they can't
sleep without it. Um. I even made one for suicide
awareness with the colors purple and turquoise with the suicide headbands.
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I also have some that teach how to build positive
self esteem when you're in active addiction. Those are my
anti addiction bears. They're superheroes. They come with the pamphlet
that tells you what to do when you feel like
you're at your weakness time. And those became very popular.
And I also used them to fund my foundation so
that I can help others. And by the way, this
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was my beautiful son, Brian. He was such a handsome
young man and I can't believe he's gone. Heartbreaking story,
but wait till you hear the signs that she's gotten
from him. And then also this information you absolutely need
to know and share about Fenton al and how it's
being passed. It can save many lives. Will be right back.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain
and we are with Carol Cooper, who is a crusader
and activist after the death of her son, which was
caused by drug laced with fentanyl. Did you bring up
fenton al? And that's something that I really need to
address because while I have been active in advocating for
drug awareness, I do go different places into schools because
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it's very important for young people to hear what's going on.
A lot of people are not aware of the dangerous
of fentan al. And I do meet people when I'm
doing events. Sometimes they'll say to me, thank goodness, my
child does not do heroin, And I said, please, you
cannot say that because I have met so many people,
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and I have to tell you there's several people that
lost their child to marijuana, lay spent in all um purposets,
any type of pill. They say now on the incidet
when pill can kill. That has become very popular because
they're putting it in everything. And one story I always share,
a young mother reached out to me to share a
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story which I never ever stopped talking about the story
and telling it. Her daughter went to a party. She
was having menstrual cramps and somebody at the party gave
her an ivy profriend and she died on the floor.
It was laced with men to all. So, how can
people possibly say that you're safe if you don't do heroin,
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Because now it's in everything. You have to be so careful.
They're putting it in candy now, and that's why there's
chilled that are dying in schools that are ten, eleven,
twelve years old. It was on the news, It's on
the internet. Also, children are getting this the dark web.
It's as easy to order pills right now as it
is to order a jacket pair of shoes on the internet.
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These kids nowhere to go to the dark web and
it cannot be traced. These people are very good at
what they do to get these kids fir it. So
I tell parents, no matter what you feel, you have
to be in your child's face. You have to look
at their internet, look at their telephone, no matter what
they say. Believe me, you don't want to be in
my shoes. And if it means saving a child's life,
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then that's what you have to do. There was a
very famous woman who lost her son to fentnol in
a pill and I can't remember her name. She wrote books.
I can't remember her name, but she lost her son
and he got a pill from the dark web. And
she said that she was always talking to him about drugs,
always you know, looking at what he was doing. But
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she never went into these computer because she trusted him.
And now she's so sorry that she didn't do that
because she feels that she did, she might have been
able to intercept this. So it's very important to talk
to your children to watch what they're doing and if
you see any change in behavior, if you're isolated, if
they're in the rooms, if they're not taking care of themselves,
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if their habits are changing, if they seem to be
nodding off, these are all signals that you need to
look for because you don't get a second chance with
bent and all. It's that bad. And there's now drugs
out there that are resistant to even nar can. I
mean they're coming out with all different kinds of things
now where in our cant's not working. So this is
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very very serious and it's something you really need to
be aware of. And very conscious with your children, because
I didn't know Brian had a drug problems. So if
I live with the what it's and the coud ups,
you can't do that. It happens. You have to just
move on and try to help others through your story,
which is what I do. By sharing my story, I
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hope it brings some kind of awareness out there to
parents that might not be aware that this is happening.
And if I could just save one life, that's what
I'm here for. And so I constantly talk about this issue,
and I'm always here. If you've lost a child and
you're grieving and you need someone to talk to and
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you just don't know where to go and what to do. Please,
I'm so reachable on the computer on you can reach
me through my website, you can reach me through Facebook. Um,
just a phone call away or a text away. I
always respond to every single message that I get, just
like you're my best friend. So please, if you feel
like you need that, you just reach out to me.
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Bless you for doing that. Wow wow wow wow. Okay
with that. You've got two books, and by the sounds
of the books, it sounds like your son has been
in touch. Could you talk about what's in your journey,
when did it happen, and what kind of thing started
happening to have you know that he's still alive, and
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I believe he's your partner on getting this message out.
So again, like I said, after Brian passed, I was
not a believer, and then suddenly things started happening like
things that got my attention because I didn't know what
a sign was. I didn't know anything like that. I never,
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you know, even looked into anything like that because again
I was a nonbeliever. So the first thing that happened
to me was when this happened. My birth and said
you need to go see a Greek therapise. I said, yes,
I do, and I was living in Chatham, and so
I went on a website and it tells you different
talents from A to Z and you picked the one
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where you're in, and then it lists different therapists in
your area. So I went down the list. It started
with like Aberdeen and all the way down to Z
and when I got to the Chatham, it was all
capital letters but no other words were just Chatham. And
I said, oh my god, what is that? So I
ran outside. I got my boyfriend. I said, look, how
come Chatham's capitalized? He said, I don't know. Maybe it's
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just the error. I said, but it's the Look, there's
the only word that's capitalized. So he said, I don't know.
So I said, that's weird. So the next day I
went and my girlfriend said, you should take a picture
of that. It's maybe it's a sign from Brian, I said,
I signed. So I went to take a picture and
it was no longer capitalized. It was small letters like
all the rest of the words that got my attention.
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So it didn't do anything to turn me into a believer,
but it definitely got my attention. So then I started
thinking about things. It's just like, am I supposed to
be doing something I don't understand? Like, I was very confused.
I was lost, and I started thinking about things. And
before Brian passed away, I was sitting on my porch
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and at my dogs, and I heard in my head
very clear, your son is going to choke. And I'm like,
oh my god, what is that? So I ran in
to tell my boyfriend. He said, that doesn't sound right.
Maybe because he lives alone, you know, and he eats
so fast. You were just having a bad moment, I said, okay,
so I I let it go. And two months later
it happened again, the same voice in my head, and
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I again told my boyfriend. He said, I don't know
where where do you go with that? I said, I
can't tell Brian because he's going to get scared and
think I'm crazy. So I would call him every night
six seven, eight o'clock to eat dinner yet and he said, Mom, please,
what do you ask me that question? So fast forward
one month later, my son passed from an overdose and
the secondary was asphyxiation. So that came to my head
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like I'm thinking, okay, was that a premonition? Was God
preparing me of something that was coming? And I believe yes,
now that I'm on the spiritual journey, I believe this
was a premonition to prepare me for what was going
to come. So as I'm sitting there, I just said
to myself, maybe I have to start looking for things.
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Maybe he's trying to get my attention. That's where the
knock knockings mean mom came into my head, like knock knock, Mom,
I'm here, knock knock, open your eyes. So when I
would go to different events. I started taking pictures of
these things that were happening, crazy things. The one that
really got my attention because as a skeptic, Brian knew
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you'd have to do something so over the top that
I would believe it. Otherwise, if I saw a penny,
I wouldn't think anything out of the dime. I wouldn't
think anything of it. So he knew he had to
do something absolutely off the chart. Somebody texted me it
was very quiet day. It was on the computer by myself.
Somebody texted me, do you want to get together and
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have some lunch? And it was a bad day and
I didn't want to be rude, but I went to
Texter back to tell her that I'm very sorry, but
you know, it's just not the right time. And where
I would type it, it said, why you know eat
your food? You want mommy to get your chicken? And
I sent it to her because I didn't know what
it was. And she called me on the phone, what
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is that? I said, what does that say? Read it
to me. She says, why do you know? Eat your food?
You want mommy to get your chicken. I dropped the phone.
I dropped to my knees. And I started crying, Brian, Brian,
that's to you. I know it because when he was young,
all he ate was chicken fingers, and I would always say, Brian,
don't you eat anything beside chicken. It was written as
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if a child wrote it. I have a picture of it.
It is in my book. I do share the picture
back up and just say where that picture came from. Again,
it was on my text message like your answer, where
I would have typed I can't make it today. Those
words were written, why you know, eat your food? You
want mommy to get your chicken. It was tight as
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a message, and I sent it to her because I
knew that I had to save it. That was unbelievable.
I could not question it that there was nothing on
the TV that would have had those what I mean.
And it was written like a child. It was just
written like a child. So that definitely got my attention,
and then I knew I had to start my spiritual journey.
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I had to do that. I had to have an awakening.
So at that point I started to become more of
a believer that he was trying to get my attention. Somehow,
I'm thinking this is possible. So the signs started getting
bigger and bigger and bigger, like one was better than
the next. I mean, in my book, I have such
pictures like nobody could believe. That's why I think it
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went to number one, because he is so unbelievable. When
he gives me signs, A lot of people get dimes,
and Brian would send me dimes, leave dimes here and there,
and he knew that it didn't do anything to me,
so he had to be creative. So one day I
was doing a tricky trade for my foundation. I had
this set. It was like a picnic set that had
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you know, works and knives in it. And my girlfriend said,
take the plastic off. It looks like it's spotted and
it's brand new. So I started pulling the plastics off
the knives and she goes, wait a minute, look at
the last night. You forgot one. So I said, oh,
I forgot that one. So I went to pull it out,
and sure enough, in the plastic wedged up to the
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top was a dime. And this was a brand new
set and it was stuck up there. I couldn't even
get it out. I said, oh my god, Brian, really,
I mean, it's you know, and then he started leaving
dimes in different plays. So we always played at the
casino together. That was our big thing in life. We
played the slot machines. We loved doing that. And I
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went to the casino for the first time. It was
so hard to walk in, but there was our machine,
the Wheel of Fortune. I said, Brian, I'm gonna do
this for you. It's so hard, but I'm going there.
There was two machines. They weren't being played. The casino
was packed, but these two machines were open. I walked
over to the machine and they're on the machine is
a ten cents a voucher right in front of the machine.
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So I mean, it's just crazy things like that that
he does to my friends. Listening, you couldn't see Carol
holding up the picture of the knives, but they were
individually wrapped knives, and underneath the cellophane like wrapped with
the knife was one of the dimes that she was
talking about. So pennies and dimes can be a sign, yes,
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but when they're in a really unusual place, that's a
good sign. We'll be right back. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast
Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of
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the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and we are listening to
Carol Cooper, author of Knock Knock, It's Me Mom, talking
about signs from her son Brian. I played the crossword puzzles,
you know, the scratch ups, and I always get words
in there that makes me believe it's him. And I
would always say, Brian, give me my aha moment. Every
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time I got across word puzzle, it always said ah
everyone ha ha ha ha ha ha. And I said,
is that even a word? So I said, Brian, I
know that you you know, keep sending me the word aha,
but can you give me more? I just need a
little bit more. So I go in, I get the
lottery ticket. I looked down. I couldn't not believe it
said aha and then rest in peace son. And the
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word lanterns which is for drug overdose. All those words
in one puzzle, and that is how he gets to me.
That or the that's the way that Brian SAIDs signs.
I mean, I can go on and on and on
and on, but it's just a manny. So my belief
system went from zero percent to why is it not
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a hundred percent? I believe God does want does not
want me to be a hundred percent. He wants me
to have that ten percent doubt because when I get
into those really dark moments, that keeps me here, you know,
but is really good for me. And I know that
he's with me. I know he helped me write this
book because I'm not a writer. I've always been very
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good at writing, but I've never ever thought about writing
a book. And then in three months, I sat down
on the computer and I typed day and night. I
did not stop. Every time I wanted to stop. I
heard his boys, Mom keep going, I got more. I
got more, I got more, and I kept going and
going and going. And when I finally finished it and
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I thought it was perfect, I heard this loud thunder
clapped like he was clapping for me, and I heard
him say, good job, mom. And that was my book.
And there's all saw a chapter on mediums, which I'd
like to real quickly say a shout out to Karen Knowey,
shout out to the late Janet Nhovac. These are two
women that got me through my life. Because if they
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don't connect, it didn't connect Brian. Nobody did Karen knowey.
When I went to see her, immediately she felt Brian
and she said, Who's real b R I A L.
She wrote it down and I started to cry, like
there was no tomorrow. When my dad used to call
my son Brial when he was young and it was
just a made up name, I didn't even remember that,
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And how she would know that if Brian wasn't there
talking to her. That was also an awakening moment for me,
and one that every time I go into that dark moment,
I think about that when she said real and I
knew that he was there with me that day. But
there's so much in this book. I talked about who
I was before Brian, who I was with Brian, and
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who I am now with al Brian. I also talked
about all the groups that howlp me, all the books
that I read that helped me, all the videos that
I watched on YouTube about near death experiences that helped me.
This is a great book for anybody breathing. I mean,
I wish I had this book when I lost Brian
because I think it really would have helped me. And
then the other book that I wrote just to let me. Know.
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I after that book, I said, I'm done. I don't
ever want to write a book. But what happened was
these people reached out to me after they read my book,
and they said, can I share a story with you?
And they were life changing experiences, like they gave me
goose bumps and made me cry, and I said, oh no,
please don't. I said, now I'm gonna want to write
another book. So I did, and it was called My
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Broken Heart Lives On Without Me. And these are stories
that everybody shared with me. Near death experiences, um bedside
stories when people are dying and they can't move and
then they lift their hands up to reach for God
or an angel, things that pets do or see when
someone dies, things that children say and people die near
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death experiences which are just absolutely unbelievable. And there's so
much more. And this was a very powerful book. And
I'm so blessed that people share their stories with me.
And you know, there's also signs in here as welcome
from people who have, you know, very amazing signs like mine.
So now I'm done writing, but I think that you know,
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this was also part of my journey. I don't know
what the next part is going to be, but I'm
open for anything. I know when it's my time, my
son's gonna come to get me, and I'm going to
have a big party because i know I've done so
much in his name, and I'm always the voice of
other people who can't be a voice. I'm happy to
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share other people's stories whenever they want me to, and
you know, that's my journey, that's my mission. I know
Brian led me to you because he only leads me
to the best people, people that honestly with Janet Nahobek.
When I first us Brian people, she was very, very big,
and she was one that I really thought I needed
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to see. But when I called, there was a two
year way and I said, oh my god, I can't
wait two years to see her. I don't know if
I'll make it two years. And the woman on the
phone was so apologetic, but she said, there's nothing I
could do but put you on the list. And then
I went to a compassionate Friends group and I met
this beautiful woman who lost her son. We connected immediately,
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and like a week later she called me. She said,
I don't know if you'd be interested. But about two
years ago I signed up with this woman, Janet Nhope,
and I got an hour appointment, but I only need
a half hour. Would you want the other half hour?
And I dropped. I said what And I told her
that I had just called to get an appointment. I said,
that's my son, Brian. He knew that I needed this,
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and sure enough I went the next week and I
got a reading and it was so helpful to me. So,
I mean, this is what happens. He leads me in
the path of the right people. He no who I
need to connect with. Yeah, one other thing I want
to say, who sold me my house? Um? I came in.
This was only like several weeks ago. He lost his
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daughter too. She was like fourteen on a on an
accent with a four wheeler. And you know, we became
friends after he sold my house because we both had
this in common. We both lost their children and he
was having a really really hard time even though she
passed so long ago. And I just a couple of
weeks ago. I came in from walking my dogs. I
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looked at my phone and I saw I had a
missed call from him, and I said, wow, why would
he call me? It's like nine thirty. So I called
back and he answered the phone. He sounded very upset.
I said, Hi, this is Carol. I saw you just
called and he said, who is this? I said, Carol,
the one you sold the house too. Be goes Oh, Hi,
I said, I just noticed a missed call. He said,
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I didn't call you. He's my phone wasn't even here.
I'm just sitting here. I'm having a really bad moment
right now, and I'm in a door place and I
don't know what to do. We stayed on the phone
for half an hour. By the time we hung up,
he was laughing and he said, you just saved my
life and he didn't even call me. So this is
how Brian leads me to people for things that I
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need to do. He is such a good partner with me,
and I know he couldn't do this when he was
here because he had too many issues. I know now
he's free from all of this, and he's able to
use his intelligence, his strength, his love, everything in his
power to work with me and be the best partner
that anyone could ever ask for. And I'm blessed to
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be able to do this for others. I am just
amazed and I think the next step for you is
just sharing, sharing, sharing as much as you can about
the book, the stories. In a second, I wanted you
to just think of maybe a couple of stories from
your second book to share, because we love stories, and
I know our listeners are going to pick up a
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copy of your book. Um is it on Kindle? Also
it is. It's not perfect perfect, because you know, I'm
a kind of Galt likes to right, you know, read
them right away. But maybe a couple of stories from
your second book. But I just wanted to talk about
you had said, I don't think as human beings we
are designed to be able to understand the bigger picture.
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I don't, and I think game might not be the
best word for this, But when we come to life,
we'll say the game of life it is experiences for
our soul. It is learning, it is growing, and when
we transition will maybe figure out what it was all for.
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But I think part of life really is to get
the most experiences we can. So even myself, Carol, who's
had twenty five years now of gathering afterlife evidence, even
taking courses on mediumship and things, and through my own mind,
my own voice, I have given people details of their
loved one. I have recorded electronic voice phenomena, I have
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heard the voices. I have witnessed miracles that I couldn't
even begin to describe. Yet I wake up in the
morning thinking it was all that just a dream? Did
this all happened? And fear comes into my life just
like everybody else. So I don't think we are designed
to really get it, because if we knew really how
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powerful we are, that we're souls having a human experience,
that our loved ones are still around us, cheering us on,
that we can create miracles. I mean, you know, down
to each little atom within our being, all we are
is vibrating invisible energy. And somebody just reminded me the
other day of our eyes. You know, we think we're seeing,
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but it's really our brain is doing things and we
are miracles. So anyone who has that skeptical mind, it
is normal. It is natural. It is part of our
humanity to help us remember or play this game called life,
as difficult as it is. But we get people like
Carol that we hear the words and we get the
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signs from Brian. I love having the time wrapped within
the knife there. That's great. Be gentle on yourself everyone.
Our loved ones want to get us to know that
they're alive. They do and they want us to live
our lives powerfully. But like Carol and myself, if we
can help someone go on with life, because when we
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experience grief, there's a lot of people that the first
reaction is I want to take myself out of this life.
Either can't handle the pain or want to be with
their loved one. There is value to being here on earth.
So I really applaud Carol for taking the grief and
turning it into something big with the books, with the
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bears and just with all of your speaking. So wow,
so book. Like I said, the life change experiences. Also,
there was could the Stranger Be My Angel? Where a
stranger comes into your life and gives you a message
something that you need to hear. There was a few
stories like the near death experiences are the ones that
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we hit home with me the most because these people
actually went there and saw their loved ones. They were
very credible. I only went with the people that it's
funny whenever I heard a story, if I get chills,
that means Brian said, that's the one you need to
put in your book. It's it's validation chills, I call it.
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And every time I did hear a story, and I
heard so many, and I'm so thankful that people shared
so many stories, but it was only a few that
gave me those validation chills, especially the near death experiences.
Let's go into our last break and then we'll hear
more stories from Carol Cooper. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio it Coast to
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Coast am hair a normal podcast network. Welcome back to
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Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and you're hearing
from Carol Cooper, whose son had an accidental overdose and
brought him to this spirit world. She's the author of
Knock Knock, It's Me Mom, and she's also got a
second book, My Broken Heart Lives On Without You, which
are filled with stories from people who have had experiences
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of signs from the afterlife. Carol's website is a Life
for Brian dot Org. All the proceeds of her book
and these care bearers that she has all goes to
her foundation, in turn goes to help those struggling with
addiction and mental illness. She also provides funding to those
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in need of shelter, many of whom which are homeless.
So she's a very passionate woman that has really turned
a dark time in her life into hope for so
many people. So I'm sure you can understand why I
wanted you to hear her words. And really, we can
each make a difference in our own special way. So
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Carol was just about to tell us a story about
someone with a near death experience. Let's continue this one gentleman.
He was so humble. He said he would never share
his story unless he was asked, and he said, and
you have asked, and therefore I will share. And he
did share his story where he did go to the
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other side, and you know, he says, you will see
people that your grandmother, your great grandmother, great great great
great grand and goes back and back, and you will
know people you get there. And he he spoke to
me in the text after he shared his story when
I thanked him for sharing, as if he was with
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Brian talking to me, because he kept telling me, you're
in the light right now. You have something you need
to do. Brian is working with you. He's very proud
of you. You will see Brian again, and I mean
it was so powerful, the chills, I felt like I
was gonna shake. I was so you know, moved by
what this man said. And you know, his mere death
experience was similar to other people's. I mean it seemed
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like people either saw Jesus, they saw God. They were
told why they were there, why they have to come back.
Sometimes they were told things to come, that we're going
to come, as almost like a forewarning. Even though sometimes
it wasn't something that great, but it was very life
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changing these experiences. When they came back, they were different
people and they had they knew what their mission in
life was. I also shared a story of a gentleman
who lost his son. He had a sign that that
I always talked about. He lost his son and the
fire in um Rhode Island. It was on the news.
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It was a big fire. His son perished in the fire.
He was young, he was in the band, and his
wife had such a difficult time except it happened to
her his son. And they were in the car one
day and she said, I wonder did he hurt like
you know the fire was was he in pain? And
he said, how many times do I have to tell you,
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he's fine. You've heard this so many times before, while
are you, you know, bringing it up again? She says,
I just feel like he might have been hurting. And
then they were cut off by a car and the
license plate said no pain. That was that cut in
front of them, Yes, no pain. So the other one
that I loved as well. I mean, there's so many
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good stories in here. I mean, it's just unbelievable. This woman,
the grandmother, she had rettin of problems and she was
going flying at the end, and she never got a
chance to see her grandson. So after she passed, the
daughter took a picture of her grandson and he was encompassed.
I don't know if you could see this, probably not,
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but he was encompassed inside an eye, an eyeball. It
just surrounds him in the exact shape of an eye,
and it's like I see you now. So I mean,
it's just beautiful stories. I mean, I could talk from
now untill tonight about the beautiful stories in Europe. But
you know, I encourage you if you need something that's
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gonna make you smile. With my books, I tried to
keep the very positive. There's so many stories out there
that are so sad, and a lot of people are
hesitant to read these kind of books because they just
like one woman said, I couldn't get past the title
without crying. I want to say I really kept it positive.
My books are more helpful. I mean, I tried to
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make it so that when you read, you're gonna feel
like hope, you're gonna feel good about yourself. You're not
gonna beat yourself up and feel guilty. But what if
the should have the kudos? I mean, we beat ourselves
up every day with that. And also, you know, some people,
they don't want to smile, they don't want to laugh,
they don't want to go to a restaurant and eat
good food because they feel their child's not there with them,
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or their loved ones not there, or why should they
be having a great meal and you know they're not here.
But you can't do that because I've learned that when
we're happy, they're happy, it raises their energy level. They
don't want to see us crying. They don't because they
know that we're going to be together one day and
that we have something to do here and we have
to try to live every day the best we can
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because tomorrow is never promised, never promised, Carol, Can you
just tell us what we'll find when we go to
a Life for Brian dot org. Yes, you'll find everything
about me and my journey. It has some good news articles.
I did get a lot of media attention over the years.
(44:04):
It's on Channel twelve News. I was in a lot
of magazines from my autistic anti bulling bears. UM. But
it also has references where you can go and has
that website that I spoke about earlier, and it just
has a lot of information and also it has my
bears if you'd like to see all the different bears
(44:24):
that I had, it shows, it has my books, and
it's just a good place to go where you can,
you know, see what I'm doing, reach out to me.
I'm happy to provide any resources. If you have children
that are suffering from addiction, mental illness, if you lost somebody,
if you're feeling like you can't get out of bed,
these are all things that I'm here for to help you. UM.
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I encourage you to look at my website, a Life
for Brian dot org and you can just click on
and you can also contact me through there, and I'm
happy to connect with you, Carol to Er, thank you
for being our guest today. Thank you so much. It's
been such a pleasure, and I really appreciate you allowing
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me to share my story. Absolutely, this story needed to
be shared because I know people listening, We all know people.
We can all share. We can all talk about this episode,
we can talk about your books and what you've been through,
and most especially talk about what's happening with the pills.
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And you never know what's out there and what it
could be laced with. So please, ladies and gentlemen listening,
please share, Please, please please, Carol, just one more time,
what's written on the bottom of the bears of foot?
What are the three steps? Ready? Said? Go? Get ready
to carry on said a goal? And go out there
and cherish your loved ones? Perfect, cherish your loved ones.
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We live life like we're going to have all the
time in the world. But when something happens and we realize,
oh we could have, we should have, we didn't, why
didn't I? All of those things go through our mind,
and of course at the time we do the best
we can. But what would it be like to really
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pay attention to the people in our lives and really
consciously loved them, consciously listen to them and be there
for them. And parents, check out your kids computers, their
cell phones, talk to them about drugs, talk to them
about these stories. It was really heartbreaking to hear Carol stories.
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And I know, just again by watching the news how
many deaths are going on with young people right now. Awful.
And while we do continue to live and our loved
ones are healthy, well and alive and we will see
them again, they have been cheated out of having a
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human life, and human life, as hard as it can be,
is really a place for our soul to learn, to grow,
to experience. When you think of your life right now,
you're certainly not the same person that you were as
a kid, were you. No, you needed all of this
life to grow and grow in wisdom. So I think
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the same thing holds true for our soul, which they
are divine and they are special And I don't know,
it is my feeling. There is a lot to embrace
here on planet Earth. And when we do crossover, we
continue to learn, we continue to grow, we continue to love,
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But the more we love, the more grief hurts. And
when somebody leaves this earth before their time, while the
devastation that it can leave behind. I believe these shows
and everything we're up to really is to help people
live a better life. You don't need to go be
(47:59):
raw raw. I believe in the afterlife and share that
wildly unless you want to. Well, but if you can
make somebody's day a little bit brighter, a little bit better,
be a listener, care, take care of the people in
your life, and most importantly, take care of yourself. Someone
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just emailed me day before yesterday, and this has been
on my mind for maybe the upcoming episode is what
is it really going to take to change the conversation
on planet Earth so that all of mankind believes in
the afterlife. It is possible, but it's going to take something.
So I'm really going to pay some attention to if
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we already had it in our lives like it's always been.
You know, we're living a life that we're easily communicating
with our loved ones. We can all do it psychically,
and we're all using our cell phones and it's easy
to text Grandma or our children or whoever has passed.
What should have happened prior to to make that happen
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and try to do some reverse engineering to see if
together we can make a concentrated effort to make it happen.
I know what's going to happen. I just don't know
when it's going to happen. There are fads that catch
on like crazy, and it can happen with the afterlife
people believing. So I'm committed to that. I am for today.
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Our time is just about up. Thank you for giving
me your time listening to now one and two episodes
quite a commitment. If you do want to check out
my other show, you'll find some different content as well.
It's called We Don't Die Radio. You can find it
on YouTube, you can find it on your favorite podcast channel,
(49:51):
and of course go to We Don't Die dot com
click on the store page, be my guest and listen
to my audio book. Just use coupon code free. Come
to a Sunday gathering. It's a place you could meet me,
come say hello. I would love that. And there's a
free medium demonstration and lots of inspiration within each and everyone.
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I'm Sanders Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and
Coast to Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. Thanks for listening
(50:41):
to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast Day
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