Episode 134: “Science, the Afterlife and Gamma Waves” - The Latest Research!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM paranormal
podcast network. Now get ready for another episode of Sheets
of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and
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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know

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that our loved ones have survived physical doubt and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Have you
ever heard the expression are you on the court or
are you in the stands? To me, this represents a
game like basketball. There are people who have trained, who

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are part of a team, who take coaching, who work
very hard, and they are playing the game on the court,
and there are others that are sitting in the sidelines.
Sitting in the stands rooting for their team, but they're
not involved. Not too long ago, I received an email

(01:42):
from a lady who wanted me to email her back
and convince her of the reality of the afterlife. I
couldn't do it in one email, sorry, and she got
upset with me. To me, that's someone living in the stands.
I offered her past episodes a free copy of my
book Things that she could explore herself, and she wasn't interested.

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I know for many of us, we can be in
the stands, and that's okay. It's nice to hear stories,
it's nice to be entertained, but to have our lives
transformed in live life, knowing the reality of the afterlife,
it takes being on the court. We have been together

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well over two years now. I know some people are
listening just for the first time, but many have been
around since episode number one. In this time together, we've
talked about so many reasons to believe in the afterlife,
things like near death experiences, share death experiences, spiritually transformative experiences,

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induced after death communication, all the various signs we've received
from loved ones, even our pets, the different forms of mediumship,
there's the evidential or mental mediums. There's the trance mediums,
and even more rare are the physical mediums. There's religious

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agreement for the afterlife. We've talked to doctors, scientists, hospice
workers about reasons to believe. We've explored instrumental trans communication
images and audios of people in the afterlife that come
through that we can see and we can hear, like
electronic voice phenomena, the work that's being done with the

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soul phone son You're in all these incredible experiments capturing
pictures and now moving images of people smiling or winking
from the afterlife. We've spoken about deathbed visitations and dreams
people have not only just before they're going to pass,
but maybe weeks or months they are experiencing their loved

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ones telling them they're going on a trip. We've explored
stories from children, whether past life memories or young children
being able to see people that they've never met who
have already passed. There's even psychic kids, how children can
be taught psychic abilities at a very young age, and

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some of the arts and crafts and playing ball that
they can do blindfolded. We've talked about tapping into our
own natural, psychic and mediumistic abilities, and how we can
each communicate with our loved ones. I've guided you through
a meditation to connect with your loved ones and spoken

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about the importance of charging our own natural abilities by
doing something called sitting in the power. And we've heard
a ton of stories about reasons to believe in the
after life. We've heard from the rich and the famous,
the authors, stories of inventors and people who have changed history,

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and also stories of everyday people like you and me
who've experienced some incredible things and have great reasons to
believe in the afterlife. So with all of that, can
you say you comfortably believe in the afterlife and that
we go on. We are human beings and part of

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that is having to deal with a skeptical mind and
I've got one too. We cannot and will not live
life twenty four hours a day knowing the reality of
the afterlife. I think part of being human is to
forget who we really are. I know personally it is

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through the negative things that have happened in my life
where I've learned the most about myself, and even the
darkest times and the grief has put me on a
journey to learn my own spirituality and my own beliefs.
This voice we each have inside of us is not
normally our best friend, yet we believe it so often,

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especially around the conversation of the afterlife. It's okay to
be skeptical, and I encourage it. However, when you spend
enough time on the court, you realize that the afterlife
is real, your loved ones are still alive, and you
will see them again. Let me ask you another question.

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How would you live your life knowing that we don't
die when you wake up in the morning. Perhaps you're
prone to negative thinking or wanting to hit the snooze button,
But what if you imagined your guides, your loved ones,
cheering you on that you have an opportunity for or
another day. What if you listened to the ideas that

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come into your mind seemingly out of nowhere, and acted
on some of these ideas or inspiration. What if we
looked at other people in our life and we saw
another divine soul dealing with their own baggage, their own worries.
Would we have a little more compassion for them When

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we look in the mirror and see ourselves, would we
beat up on ourselves, or would we have compassion that
we're doing the best we can and that we've come
a long way. We will continue to grieve, that is
part of being human. But I believe our grieving time
is significantly reduced when we embrace the reality of the afterlife.

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When times get tough in your life, can you look
at your life by what is it I'm meant to
learn here? Knowing that you're empowered by people helping you
move through it. A friend of mine told me a
story years ago. I spent many years catering for race
car teams, and he told me of a near death

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experience he had had in which his grandmother and grandfather
were there in a world that seemed more real than
we're experiencing right now, and when he came back to life,
it made this life seem like it was just a dream.
This man went on to win racing championships. He said

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to me, Sandra, without the fear of dying, I didn't
have the fear of living. So he could put his
foot on the accelerator for longer and took more risks
than maybe others did. And I'm not saying that we
need to live our lives at two hundred miles an hour.

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But I am saying that on the other side of
our comfort zone, there's a bunch of rewards. We human
beings have three main fears. One is the fear of dying,
one is the fear of failure, and one is the
fear of being alone. Throughout our one hundred and thirty

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plus episodes together, there are plenty of reasons to believe
and know that we don't die, that we go on.
Failure is an opportunity for success. The more we fail
means the more we've gone after our dreams. Some of
the greatest inventions would have never happened unless the inventor

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failed many many times. And as far as the fear
of being alone, oh my gosh, I wish I had
a magic wand and could let you know that there
is so much support in the unseen world around you.
Don't be freaked out. Your loved ones and guides will

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leave you your privacy, but when you need that strength,
they're right here for you. I'm definitely not telling you
to believe everything I say. Challenge it, Go on your
own investigation, your own journey. Have experiences for yourself that

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you know the reality of the afterlife. There are some
good reasons to believe other than calming our fears and
knowing that our loved ones have lived on and that
we'll see them again. Those with the faith in the
afterlife tend to live longer and healthier lives, have better relationships,

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lower blood pressure, appreciate nature more, are kinder, more generous,
more loving, and overall have a higher quality experience to life.
So I ask you, is it worth putting that little
negative voice aside and spending our time together and even

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your life with the reality of the afterlife. I'm really
excited to share so much with you on this episode. Today.
Coming up, there's some new research from the Michigan Center
for Consciousness Science talking about the gamma waves, a heightened

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brain state when we pass away. We'll also hear some
words from our attorney author afterlife explorer friend ROBERTA. Grimes.
Neurosurgeon doctor ajmal Zamar from the University of Louisville and
Kentucky talks about brain waves after death and correlates these

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brain waves with people who have near death experiences. We'll
also hear some words from doctor Sam Parnia about consciousness,
survival after death and just Remember, science cannot explain consciousness.
Where we think, how we think, where thoughts are stored.

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It's all a mystery. There's so much more to life
than meets the eye. And there is so much more
to you, my friend, than you know. I hope you're
excited because I've got some great things coming up. We'll
be right back. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife
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Speaker 2 (13:59):
Welcome back the Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlaine.
Have you ever heard about the different brain waves? You've
got your delta, theta, beta, and gamma. You've heard those expressions.
Perhaps let's just run through quick the basic guide to them.
Delta brain waves are when we are in deep sleep.

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They are the slowest brain waves. Next comes the theta
brain waves. That's when we're in deep meditation or just
before we go to sleep. Great place to be. It's
a place that helps us with creativity. It's relaxing. It

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can help connect us with our intuition, our mediumistic abilities,
our subconscious mind. Next most active is the beta brain waves,
and that's where we live most of our life. This
is when we're conscious. This is when we're thinking, This
is when we're doing. This is when we're problem solving.

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So that's your beta brain waves. Now, one step more
active than that are the gamma waves. From one article
I'm reading, it says these waves are difficult to measure
with the current EEG technology, but in the future scientists
are hoping they can understand them more. They say the

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gamma waves reflect a conscious awareness of what is around
us and relate to feelings of happiness and compassion. They
are also prevalent while processing information and learning at a
high level. Think about how you feel when you're immersed
in a complex situation or listening to a subject matter

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on a topic of great interest to you. This is
when your brain feels like it is firing on all cylinders.
Benefits of gamma waves include improvements in memory and information processing,
accurate perception of our reality, compassion and positive thinking, advanced

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learning and intelligence, boost high focus and energy levels, and
reduction of depressive symptoms. So that's gamma. And in the
news article I'm going to read to you shortly, gamma
is important. I have witnessed mediums being connected to these
EEG machines doing different forms of mediumship, evidential mediumship, trance mediumship.

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And what's interesting is when people work with the spirit world,
how often they go into the gamma state. All right,
So this news just came out the first week of
May twenty twenty three, and just a few months prior
to that, there was a study done by scientists with

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the New York Academy of Sciences announcing that near death
experiences are definitely not hallucinations of a dying brain shutting down.
I don't know if you've ever been in a conversation
with someone and they say, oh, near death experiences. Oh,
your brain just goes into this heightened mode and you

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are hallucinating. And that explains it. And I actually thought
that way back in the beginning, when I was so
skeptical and outspoken that the afterlife could not be real. Oh,
you didn't want to know that, Sandra. Back then, she
was ugly. So scientists have proved, and they're not willing
to say what's happening, but near death experiences are not

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hallucinations from a dying brain. So this new research, let
me read this to you. The Proceedings of the National
Academy of Science provide some preliminary evidence of increased brain
activity associated with consciousness in the moments leading up to
death in this study spearheaded by two doctors, doctor Borgin

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and doctor Maschour. In this study, in connection with the
Michigan Center for Consciousness Science, the researchers observed comparable gamma
activation signatures in the dying brains of both animals and
humans following oxygen deprivation caused by cardiac arrest. One doctor

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stated how vivid experience can emerge from a dysfunctional brain
during the process of dying is a neuroscientific paradox. The
research team identified four patients who died from cardiac arrest
while being monitored by an EEG in the hospital. All

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four were comatose and unrest responsive, and, with the consent
of their families, removed from life support after being deemed
beyond medical help. Upon withdrawal of ventilator support, two of
the patients exhibited an increased heart rate accompanied by a

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surge of gamma wave activity, known as the fastest brain
activity and linked to consciousness. The surge of activity was
observed in the hot zone of neuro correlates of consciousness
in the brain, located at the junction between the temporal

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parishial and a capital lobes. I have no idea if
I'm pronouncing those right. This region has been associated with dreaming,
visual hallucinations, and altered states of consciousness in previous studies.
Doctor Nusha Maylova explained that these two patients had a

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history of seizures, but experienced none during the hour before
their deaths. The other two patients displayed neither an increase
in heart rate upon removal from life support, nor heightened
brain activity. Despite these intriguing results, the researchers caution against
drawing definitive conclusions due to the limited sample size. Additionally,

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it is impossible to know what the patients experienced as
they did not survive. We are unable to make correlations
of the observed neural signatures of consciousness with a corresponding
experience in the same patients of this study. However, the
observed findings are definitely exciting and provide a new framework

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for understanding our covert consciousness in dying humans, said doctor Nusha.
Future large scale, multi center studies involving EEG monitored ICU
patients who survive cardiac arrest could offer valuable data to

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ascertain whether these bursts of gamma activity are indeed indicating
concealed consciousness near death. So what this means to me
after witnessing mediums being connected with these egs and also,
we don't really understand consciousness do we? We know we have it,

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but what exactly it is and where it comes from?
And I believe our consciousness continues after death. Is there
some correlation between being in this heightened gamma state that
seems to kick in prior to death, and this may

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be responsible for not only the connection that we feel
to the afterlife, but when we listen to accounts of
near death experiences, they are extremely memorable to the people
experiencing them. Most memories that we have it's hard to

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remember them or they're vague, But people who experience these
near death experiences, they can picture them as if they've
only just happened. Even someone who is six years old
who had a near death experience can recall it when
they're ninety years old, as if it had just happened,

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And the memories are so real to them, experiencing them
with all of their senses. So, before we pass, is
it natural that we go into this heightened gamma state,
and is that the state for our consciousness? And when
we pass, does that just unleash our consciousness into the

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unseen world, taking us from a soul having a human
experience to a spirit who now resides in the afterlife,
the world unseen, the hereafter. It's a fascinating inquiry. I
think I've said this before, But row, row, row your

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boat gently down the stream, merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life
is but a dream. I also like this quote by
Nikola Tesla, great inventor and engineer. The day science begins
to study non physical phenomena, it will make more progress
in one decade than in all of the previous centuries

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of its existence. We've got some great things head. But
before we go to the break, let me play a
little clip of Attorney ROBERTA. Grimes, who's also afterlife explorer
and host of Seek Reality.

Speaker 5 (24:11):
The beauty of it all is that the afterlife is
exactly where we are. It's exactly in the same place,
and the way it works is really pretty simple. We
think what's around us is solid, but of course it's not.
Any scientist will tell you. If the White House is
the center of an atom, the orbiting electron could be
in Denver and there's nothing between, not even air nothing.

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That's how little there is that is solid. And then
if you look at the particles, while those particles must
be solid, it turns out their vortices of energy. It's
all energy. The great Bruce Lipton, who is a quantum biologist,
he's wonderful. He says, if you had a teeny tiny
camera and you could put it inside an atom, that'd
be nothing for it to photograph. Matter is nothing but energy.

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So knowing that's true, it will make sense to you.
And I tell you that right now you are tuned
to that's what we think the lowest level of reality.
Your mind is tuned to this level, the universe level,
we'll call it, and to that body on this level.
When you die, all that happens is your mind, like
a television set, tunes to a higher level, and it

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picks up just like your TV would, a whole new,
solid reality, just as solid as this one is. In fact,
the people who live there say that's real. This is
not real, which is a little hard to grasp when
you're living through your life here and dodging taxis. But
that's the reality. That's how it works. So that being
the case, it's easy to understand. I think that the

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dead are actually able to come and visit us easily.
They can lower their vibratory rate. We can't go higher,
especially when we're in bodies. They can lower their vibratory
rate and be right here with us. In fact, I'm
sure some of the people that I love around me
now saying go ROBERTA, so thank you for listening to
this let's.

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Speaker 2 (27:30):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and we're talking about gamma wave activity in the brain
as we die. Now, of course we don't die, but
the body does. And what's happening is this gamma state
responsible for our consciousness surviving after death. The University of

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Louisville in Kentucky found something surprising.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
WDNC and a bear has more on the incredible finding
about a patient's final moments.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
It was accidental science. An eighty seven year old's brain
activity documented at the exact moment of his passing. A
serendipitous finding opened one doctor's mind to what's possible when
we die. Neurosurgeon doctor Ajmal Zammar was monitoring a patient
for seizures using electrodes placed all across the skull when
the unexpected happened.

Speaker 8 (28:23):
While we were doing this, the patient unfortunately suffered a
cordiac arrest and died.

Speaker 7 (28:29):
The heart stopped, but the censor still in place picked
up the patient's final brain waves.

Speaker 8 (28:35):
That left us alone with the recording from alive to death.

Speaker 7 (28:38):
As the University of Louisville neurosurgeon studied the rare recording,
a rather beautiful story unfolded.

Speaker 8 (28:45):
There's very specific brainwave patterns that are happening in the brain.
While we have a recall a replay of memories, so
this is known in healthy humans.

Speaker 7 (28:57):
In studies of healthy humans brain activit, the recordings have
shown active gamma waves. As a person looks at pictures
of memorable life events a wedding, the birth of a child,
the same waves appeared in abundance in the dying patient
and for thirty seconds after death.

Speaker 8 (29:14):
What exactly happens when is the time we really die
and the brain stops really being active.

Speaker 7 (29:22):
The dying patient's brainwave patterns appear to correlate with those
who have had a near death experience.

Speaker 8 (29:27):
If you look at near death experiences, the people who
described them describe them fairly consistently. They describe memory, flashbacks,
memory recalls.

Speaker 7 (29:40):
The finding has sparked both scientific and spiritual debate.

Speaker 8 (29:44):
Am I nearly seeing nerve cells firing and brain waves
being active? Or do they have a functional meaning and
they let us perceive these memories and recalls? That to
me is the biggest question.

Speaker 7 (29:56):
Doctor Zemer says he plans to continue the fascinating and instigation.

Speaker 8 (30:01):
How would we like to imagine our death? I leave
it to everybody else to decide by themselves. I would
like it for me personally to be spin off seconds
I replay memories before I die. I would like to
die with that feeling. That would be a bad thought.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Those same findings have been documented in animal studies. Researchers
who induced cardiac arrest and rats noted gamma wave activity
persistent after the heart stopped.

Speaker 2 (30:27):
Next, I want you to hear from doctor Sam Parnia,
who is Associate Professor of Critical Care Medicine and Director
of Critical Care and Resuscitation Research at NYU School of Medicine.
He is talking to UK's Times Radio stig Able about
a man named Richard Hammond. Pay special attention to the

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words doctor Parnia shares on consciousness.

Speaker 9 (30:54):
There are millions and millions of people who've gone through
the point of death and beyond. We actually don't call
the these near death experiences. That is a very ambiguous term,
and it's a term that's been grossly misused. But the
reality is that people who go through death and come
back to life have recalled universal and consistent features, even
though they don't know each other at all. And this

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is cross culturess so called religious beliefs and non religious
beliefs and so on and so forth. It seems to
be a universal human experience. And you have to realize
we were never meant to go into death. We were
never meant to scientifically start to parse through and beyond death.
But that's exactly what science is doing now, and remarkably,
we find that when people go through there, they have

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these lucid experiences of death that are not consistent with hallucinations,
They are not consistent with illusions, They are not delusional.
These are real experiences that are occurring.

Speaker 10 (31:47):
So what do you conclude from this? I mean, these
are deep questions. And you know you're an intensive care doctor.
You're talking to us from the intensive care now, so
I'll forgive you that. You might say, I can't be
interested in metaphysical questions that you're hurling at me. But
there's two obvious areas that you're getting into. One is
the mind body problem. Is there a kind of something
other than just the flesh operating here? Is there something

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more significant? And I suppose other people will be thinking, well,
does this make you think about after lives? Does it
make you think about there's something more for twos and
four as when we die? Or what do you conclude
from this?

Speaker 9 (32:20):
You see? The problem here is that we have very
fixed societal views about what life and death is and
why Because for thousands of years, what used to happen
was when the heart stopped, people would be permanently dead.
There was nothing you could do. There was you could
draw a clear line between when they were alive and
they were dead because the moment the heart stopped, there

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were lifeless, motionless. The brain would stop working, they would
stop breathing, and they would be dead, and they'll be
permanently dead. The reality is that science now has gone
well into death and into the post mortem period, and
what we've understood that actually is that you can be
dead and I'm not playing with words. I don't mean
close to death, I mean really dead and beyond dead
in the post mortem period and still be brought back

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to life again because the cells in your body do
not die at the same time that you die. They
go into sort of a hibernation state for hours of time,
and that during that period you can be brought back
to life, which is why the experiences that people have
are truly reflecting the experience of death, not just near death. Now,
to your other point that you raise is what on

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earth is going on? But that's a big question. What
is going on with human consciousness? We are all conscious,
thinking beings. Everyone who listens to this program is thinking
and conscious. And the reality is that going back thousands
of years to Plato and Socrates and Aristotle and Democratis
and all these other great philosophers and Avicenna and great thinkers.

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People have tried to understand what is it that makes
us who we are? How do our thoughts, our feelings,
our emotions, our self come to be? And essentially there
have been two very broad categories of belief system and
these are beliefs. Some people have always believed that will
somehow magine the body, the brain will generate your thinking,
your thoughts, your consciousness. Others have proposed that that may

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not address the problem, because actually, we can now study
the brain in great detail. We know how every cell works,
we know how the cells connect together, we know how
millions and billions of cells connect together. Yet we cannot
find any evidence for how those cells can generate your thoughts.
We cannot find how cells can start thinking and feeling.

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For instance, if I were to show you a brain
cell in a laboratory and say, oh, here, this brain
cell is now thinking I'm hungry, you'd say, well, that's
kind of crazy. It's a brain cell. It produces proteins,
it doesn't produce salt. But we are thinking, conscious beings.
And so I think, to sort of go back to
the point you raised, what's really remarkable here is that
and our consciousness itself is remarkable. We have things that

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other animals can't do. We can recite poetry, we can paint,
We have people like Beethoven and Motes, and we can
go to the moon and to Mars, and we can
cure COVID, and we can tackle even what happens when
we die. So our consciousness is quite unique. And I
think it's a little bit of a disservice to think
that it is simply some sort of byproduct of the brain,

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a little bit like heat coming off of a fire. Now, well,
it really oversimplifies what is remarkable about human consciousness, right,
So I think the scientific answer that many of us
are verering towards is that I think that, and bearing
in mind there is no evidence, right we were scientists,
we need there is no evidence for how brain cells

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or millions of brain cells can produce thoughts. And one
alternative is that maybe consciousness, the things that makes us
who we are, is a separate, undiscovered scientific entity that
interacts with the brain in the same way that you
need a radio or a TV to decode electromagnetic waves
and turn them into sound and picture, but they're not
produced by the TV or the radio, and it might

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be your conscience is a separate, undiscovered entity that is
remarkable and can do all these remarkable things. Yeah, and
that might be a better explanation.

Speaker 10 (36:07):
That's why they call it the mind body problem, because
no one can really truly solve it. But perhaps Richard
han't talked about his wife shouting at him. He said that,
you know, he was on the way towards death and
his wife shouted at him and said, come back, don't
you dare die. You must have seen people in your
job have that type of experience, someone saying please don't die,
the relatives there, the loved ones around them.

Speaker 8 (36:29):
Do you feel that there.

Speaker 10 (36:30):
Is a something that happens when there's a connection between
two people that can draw people back.

Speaker 11 (36:35):
Is that is that a fair assessment? Well, I don't
think so. If that was the case, you wouldn't need
intensive care doctors like me. I think it sounds very
nice and it's wonderful that his wife was screaming at him.
It's good to know that your spouse was screaming. Even
if you're dying for a different reason. That doesn't end
it sounds like. But the reality is that I think
we you know obviously what and I don't unfortunate this

(36:56):
video doesn't give details of his medical condition.

Speaker 9 (36:58):
We don't know what's going on. But the reality is
that as people are in a deep coma, if they're
starting to wake up, depending on where he was, maybe
he was improving and he was actually coming back, that
they go into the sort of twilight zone where they
can hear things, but they don't process information quite correctly.
They're a bit confused, and so it might be that
he was having some interaction with his wife, but that

(37:21):
was probably later as he was waking up from his coma,
rather than when he was deep in his coma.

Speaker 10 (37:26):
We have to leave it now, Sam, But you're going
to go off and treat people in intensive care? How
do you go about thinking about that? I mean, does
it lightly blow your mind that in half an hour's
time you're going to be the difference between life and
death for someone? How do you judge the boundary between
the two now when you live it every single day?

Speaker 9 (37:42):
I think, truthfully, I think it's a privilege because you know,
we are able to bring life back to people, and
then that obviously is an honor and it's a privilege
and we do our best. But what's also remarkable is
that and science has gone through and gone beyond the
boundaries of death, and we're exploring what happens to people
in that state. And what I think is really happening,

(38:02):
which is truly remarkable to me, is I think is
as they're going through death, their brain is shutting down,
and normally the parts of their brain that are acting
like a braking system, it's like an inhibition process that
allows them to do what they need to do. Pay
the bills, pay the mortgage, cook dinner, things that you
do in your day to day life. Those things that

(38:23):
are prominent disappear. It's called the process of disinhibition. Those
things go away, and then remarkably, they get access to
their entire consciousness, everything they've done, everything that they've said,
everything that they've intended, and then they start to analyze
themselves based upon morality and ethics. So it really is
truly remarkable what is going on when you're going into death,

(38:45):
and I think that is something that we're trying to explore.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
Further.

Speaker 2 (38:49):
I love that doctor Parnia came right out and said
science can find no evidence on how our brain cells
generate thoughts. So many people say if science believes something,
we'll believe it. So people are looking to science to
prove exactly what happens when we die, that our life

(39:10):
goes on, and that there is life after death. But
there are so many questions yet to be answered. My friend,
there is more to life than meets the eye, and
there is more to you than you know. So let's
go into our next break and then we'll be back.
I've left you a lot to think about. You're listening

(39:33):
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Speaker 11 (40:26):
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Speaker 2 (40:49):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and I feel like a dog who won't give up
his bone. I'm hooked on this Gammus dates and I
find it all very interesting about being in that heightened
sense of awareness before we pass. Can we get into
that state on our own and connect to the greater reality?

(41:12):
I say yes. I want you to listen now to
Daniel Goleman, who is the co author of a book
called Altered Traits, and this is the remarkable brain waves
of high level meditators.

Speaker 12 (41:27):
My co author of the book Altered Traits is a neuroscientist,
Richard Davidson. He has a lab at the University of Wisconsin,
a very large lab. He has dedicated scanners. He has
about one hundred people working there, and he was able
to do some remarkable research where he flew Olympic level

(41:47):
meditators who live in Nepaul or India, typically some in France.
He flew them over to the lab and put them
through a protocol in his brain scanners and did state
of the art tests and the results were just astounding.
We found, for example, or he found that their brain

(42:10):
waves are really different. Perhaps the most remarkable finding in
the Olympic level meditators has to do with what's called
gamma wave. All of us get gamma for a very
short period when we solve a problem we've been grappling with,
even if it's something that's vexed us for months, we
get about a half second of gamma. It's the strongest

(42:32):
wave in the EEG spectrum. We get it when we
bite into an apple, or imagine biting into apple and
for a brief period, split second, inputs from taste, sound, smell, vision,
all of that come together in that imagine bite into

(42:53):
the apple, but that last very short period in an
ordinary EG. What was stunning was that the Olympic level meditators,
these are people who've done up to sixty two thousand
lifetime hours of meditation, their brainwave shows gamma very strong

(43:13):
all the time as a lasting trait, just no matter
what they're doing. It's not a state effect, it's not
during their meditation alone, but it's just their everyday state
of mind. We actually have no idea what that means experientially,
science has never seen it before. We also find that

(43:34):
in these Olympic level meditators, when we ask them, for example,
to do a meditation on compassion, their level of gamma
jumps seven to eight hundred percent in a few seconds.
This has also never been seen by science. So we
have to assume that the special state of consciousness that

(43:55):
you see in the highest level meditators is a lot
like something described in the classical meditation literatures literature centuries ago,
which is that there is a state of being which
is not like our ordinary state.

Speaker 6 (44:14):
You know.

Speaker 12 (44:14):
Sometimes it's called liberation, enlightenment, awake, whatever the word may be.
We suspect there's really no vocabulary that captures what that
might be. The people that we've talked to in this
Olympic level group say, it's a very spacious sense. You're
wide open, you're prepared for whatever may come. We just

(44:38):
don't know, but we do know is quite remarkable.

Speaker 2 (44:42):
It is really remarkable. And I'm playing this game of
connecting the dots to what I've learned about gamma to
some of the other things that I have learned. Remember,
we've talked about sitting in the power. This is that
technique to quiet the mind, very much like meditation and
get into those altered states. Please revisit episode one one

(45:05):
five because there's that experiential journey and I talk much
more about it. Also, if you really want to dig
your teeth into this, go to the store page at
We Don't Die dot com. Our medium friends Carrie and
Phil did a five hour workshop on sitting in the power.
There were different ways to sit, Sitting just for your soul,

(45:28):
sitting for healing, sitting to connect with your deceased loved ones,
sitting to contact the spirit world through mediumship. I'm wondering
and thinking that this is connecting to the gamma state.
Remember I was saying I went to a workshop where
mediums were connected to this EEG and while they were

(45:51):
doing mediumship, they were engaged in the gamma state. Something
worth investigating. Now, Remember earlier I said, let's get on
to the court and not in the stands. Part of
why I do this show definitely is for evidence of
the afterlife and to help people through grief, but it's

(46:12):
also about having an incredible life. From time to time
in my journey, I would do gratitude exercises, meaning taking
out a piece of paper or my computer and writing
one hundred things I'm grateful for. While it might not
seem easy to do, there is a shift in consciousness

(46:33):
when you actually start feeling gratitude and really feeling joy
about the things you're grateful for, and then inserting something
you'd like to have happen in your life as if
it has already happened, and having gratitude for that. And
I have to tell you I have had miracles show

(46:56):
up in my life doing that practice. I subscribe to
a daily email called Messages from the Universe from tut
dot com tut tut dot com, and it is author
Mike Dooley who puts this on just a few days ago.
I got this one just once a day. Imagine the

(47:19):
life you dream of, believe that it can be yours
in this world of magic and miracles. Choose to live
as if you know of its inevitable manifestation. Don't compromise
and don't worry, don't look for results. And as surely
as spirit crafts one moment after another, so too will

(47:43):
it fuse together the life you now lead with the
life of your dreams, as if they were two pieces
of a jigsaw puzzle destined to become one. Are you
willing to play with gratitude, with meditation, with gamma waves?

Speaker 6 (48:04):
Hey?

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Why not? Right earlier we listened to doctor sam Parnia
talk about consciousness. Nowhere in our brain or bodies cells
can science figure out where thoughts, feelings, and emotions come from.
So I want to leave you with a reminder of

(48:24):
some of those powerful words he said, and also to
remind you to come see me every Sunday on our
Sunday gathering.

Speaker 8 (48:33):
Just go to we.

Speaker 2 (48:34):
Doo'tdie dot com. Explore the website, go to the store page,
find the Sunday gathering. It'll help to empower you of
who you really are. So here is doctor sam Parnia
once again.

Speaker 9 (48:48):
We are all conscious, thinking beings. Everyone who listens to
this program is thinking and conscious. And the reality is
that going back thousands of years to Plato and Socrates,
Stotle and Democratis and all these other great philosophers and
Avicenna and great thinkers, people have tried to understand what
is it that makes us who we are? How do

(49:09):
our thoughts, our feelings, our emotions, our self come to be?
And essentially There have been two very broad categories of
belief system, and these are beliefs. Some people have always
believed that well, somehow, magically the body, the brain will
generate your thinking, your thoughts, your consciousness. Others have proposed
that may not address the problem, because actually, we can

(49:31):
now study the brain in great detail. We know how
every cell works, we know how the cells connect together,
we know how millions and billions of cells connect together.
Yet we cannot find any evidence for how those cells
can generate your thoughts. We cannot find how cells can
start thinking and feeling. For instance, if I were to

(49:52):
show you a brain cell in a laboratory and say, oh, here,
this brain cell is now thinking I'm hungry, you'd say, well,
that's kind of crazy. It's a brain cell. It produces proteins,
it doesn't produce thought. But we are thinking conscious beings.
And so I think, to sort of go back to
the point you raised, what's really remarkable here is that
and our consciousness itself is remarkable. We have things that

(50:14):
other animals can't do. We can recite poetry, we can paint,
we have people like Beethoven and Mozart, and we can
go to the moon and to Mars, and we can
cure COVID, and we can tackle even what happens when
we die. So our consciousness is quite unique. And I
think it's a little bit of a disservice to think
that it is simply some sort of byproduct of the brain,

(50:36):
a little bit like heat coming off of a fire. Now, well,
it really oversimplifies what is remarkable about human consciousness, right,
So I think the scientific answer that many of us
are veering towards is that I think that, and bearing
in mind there is no evidence, right we were scientists,
we need every There is no evidence for how brain

(50:57):
cells or millions of brain cells can produce thoughts. And
one alternative is that maybe consciousness, the things that makes
us who we are, is a separate, undiscovered scientific entity
that interacts with the brain in the same way that
you need a radio or a TV to decode electromagnetic
waves and turn them into sound and picture, but they're

(51:17):
not produced by the TV or the radio. And it
might be your consciousness is a separate, undiscovered entity that
is remarkable and can do all these remarkable things. Science
has gone through and gone beyond the boundaries of death,
and we're exploring what happens to people in that state,
and what I think is really happening, which is truly
truly remarkable to me, is I think is as they're

(51:38):
going through death, their brain is shutting down and normally
the parts of their brain that are acting like a
braking system. It's like an inhibition process that allows them
to do what they need to do. Pay the bills,
pay the mortgage, cook dinner, things that you do in
your day to day life, those things that are prominent disappear.
It's called the process of disinhibition. Things go away, and

(52:01):
then remarkably, they get access to their entire consciousness, everything
they've done, everything that they've said, everything that they've intended,
and then they start to analyze themselves based upon morality
and ethics. So it really is truly remarkable what is
going on when you're going into death. And I think
that is something that we're trying to explore further.

Speaker 2 (52:20):
Science is our partner investigating the afterlife. How would you
live your life knowing that we don't die. Look around
in this invisible space. You have cheerleaders who want you
to have a wonderful, wonderful life. I do too, get
out of the stands onto the court. It's about the journey,

(52:44):
not the destination. You are never alone and I love you.
This is Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM here on Normal Podcast Network.

Speaker 1 (53:06):
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