July 14, 2023 • 52 mins
If you just randomly met Sandra and wondered about the afterlife, here’s what she’d tell you!
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Hi.
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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reason and we now
know that our loved ones have survived physical death, and
so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Imagine
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that you're sitting in your favorite coffee place. You've got
a friend that you're going to meet in a little while.
You've never heard of me, Sander Champlain, and you're looking
at the television in the coffee shop. I'm sitting next
to you, just reading a paper and suddenly someone comes
on the news talking about life after death. Our eyes
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meet and you tell me I would really love to
believe that's true. Well, sitting next to Sander Champlain, I
tend to speak up, even if inside I'm nervous or afraid.
So I would ask you, would it be okay if
I shared a little bit of my experience and you
tell me, well, I've got a friend meeting me here
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in about ten minutes, so I would love to hear.
My uncle just passed away last week, and I've really
been looking is there evidence of the afterlife? And I
sure feel lousy because he's died. And I say, okay,
we've got ten minutes together. Do you mind if I
just go for it? And you say go for it? Well, first,
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my name is Sandra. It's really nice to meet you.
I am the host of a podcast called Shades of
the Afterlife, with now over one hundred and forty episodes.
I wasn't always this person, believe it or not. About
twenty five years ago, I went through a huge fear
of dying that led me on a massive discovery to
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see if there's any proof. I was never going to
tell anybody about what I found. I just needed to
rest my mind. There's a lot obviously I can't tell
you in this ten minutes, but with the information that
I found, and also some information about grief, so I
think I can help as far as your uncle's passing goes.
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I wrote a book called We Don't Die, a skeptics
discovery of life after death, about ten years ago, and
so even though I don't have a copy with me,
I can tell you that my website is we Don't
Die dot com and if you scroll to the bottom
and put in your email address, up will pop a
box and it says there's only the first few chapters
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of my book. But the truth is the entire book
is there. Chapter ten is how to Survive Grief. And
like I said, I know that would make a difference
about your uncle. But since I wrote the book, I
have gone on to research a whole bunch of stuff.
So I know it's hard to believe in the afterlife.
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But my friend, let me just take a second and
point to your cell phone that's sitting there. Isn't it
awesome to think that that phone can communicate with people
all over the world, and then also through the Internet,
you can get any bit of information about just about anything.
So it is possible for things to connect without being
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plugged in. And I say, it's possible to connect with
our loved ones even though they're no longer alive. That
we all possess this faculty kind of like our phones
do to connect. And while we're talking about cell phones
pretty wild, there are other things that are equally as
mind blowing, like, if you think about it, we live
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in this ever expanding universe, and also the fact that
if you study anything in the quantum level down to
every atom that makes us up, all we are is
vibrating energy. One of the things that I faced being
an afterlife researcher is I was so skeptical, but then
I realized that we all have this mind that is
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not our best champion. We wake up in the morning
and often it says negative things about us. It doesn't
tell us we can do anything. We're so powerful. So
I personally think, my friend, that we human beings don't
remember who we are because we have this voice. I
won't go through the big stuff that I have in
my book because I know you're going to read it,
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but basically, a couple of the things that really struck
me as reasons to believe was one. I took a
course in mediumship, you know, talking to people that are dead.
I didn't think it was real, and I took this
course just to convince myself, is this a real thing
or is this all fake? And out of my own head,
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I was able to accurately tell somebody about their loved one,
and not just general. I knew that this lady's grandfather's
name was Yon, that he was a fisherman in Denmark,
that he died from lung cancer, and even specifically that
he never told his own daughter that he loved her.
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And so I thought I was making this all up,
and in fact I was giving her details about her
loved one. So over the past, I don't know, fifteen
years or so now, I've dabbled in medium readings. I
don't do it professionally because it does work through our
imagination and I am wrong a lot of times. But
I do know that it is real because I've had
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plenty of opportunities to witness it. Since COVID hit, there
was so much grief in the world, and some friends
of mine and I got together and we started doing
a free Sunday service on zoom. You might be interested
in coming sometime. It's called the Sunday Gathering and it's
filled with inspiration. But also at the end there's a
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medium demonstration so you can see what I'm talking about,
just how close our loved ones really are to us.
Something I think you'll find interesting right now is there's
a doctor. He's a hospice doctor called Christopher Kerr, and
he has researched over seventeen hundred people who have passed
in hospice. And you've probably heard that people just before
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they pass can see a loved one or reach out
into space like they're reaching for someone. Even Steve Jobs,
remember him who created Apple. The last thing he said
was oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, with a smile
on his face, just before he passed. Well, doctor Christopher
Kerr has seen that not only people just before they
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die have these visions, but it can be a month
to six weeks before they pass. And they're more than visions.
They call them dreams, but they occur to the person
just as real as you and I sitting here having coffee.
People are young, people are healthy, and most times they
tell them they're going on a trip. So I find
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it so comforting that our loved ones help us when
it's our time to go. Not too long ago, my
former boyfriend passed away, and although it's been a couple
of years since we spoke, I was really shocked. Two
great things happened. One is I have some friends that
are mediums. Nobody knew of my relationship with this gentleman.
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It was not posted on social media, and through a
friend's mouth, she must have given me forty bits of
details about things that I had done with this fella together,
and it felt like he was whispering in her ear,
things so specific, like I helped him write two books,
and how every time we went on a date, we'd
just sit at the bar and niver at a table. Also,
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there's a researcher in Brazil named Sonya Andaldi, who I'm
lucky to be friends with now. But for well over
thirty years she was working with parents in capturing voices
of children in the afterlife using something called electronic voice Phenomena.
In the past five or six years, she's been working
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with images and videos, filming things like steam or static
and pictures of people's loved ones appear when she goes
through frame by frame in her recordings, and my fella
that I was telling you about has come through in
several images, almost looking three dimensional, so I know he's around.
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I know we just have a few minutes before your
friend comes. But I also want to tell you. You've
heard of near death experiences, right, people who are brought
back from the dead. There are so many similar stories,
and many of them people see their loved ones. Something
that I find so fantastic is the research of Ken Ring,
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who not only studied these near death experiences, but he
studied near death experiences of people that were blind. Never
before had they had vision, and in that state they
could see again. Some people actually saw loved ones. People
saw loved ones that they didn't know were dead, and
they actually were. Some people not only hovered over their body,
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but they were able to leave the hospital. One woman
saw a single red shoe sitting on the rooftop of
the hospital, and somebody checked and sure enough it was there.
Another woman, when she was dead, she floated outside of
her body and into the next room. She saw her
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husband talking to the doctor. Doctor dropped a pen. The
man picked it up, noticed the doctor had two different
colored socks, and that was true. I think one of
the things that really sealed it for me way back
when with the reality of the afterlife is that I
found out how to do these recordings, this electronic voice phenomena.
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And as creepy and crazy as this may sound, I
had gone to a retreat center and studied with these
folks named Tom and Lisa Butler, who taught just how
close our loved ones are and that they can actually
manipulate inside of a digital tape recorder a regular tape
recorder where probably our iPhones would work. So what we
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did is we would record sounds of stat or the
wind blowing, or water on or in my case, I
recorded rain drops. And if you can picture this, me
sitting in a cabin alone, really believing at this point
that the afterlife was real from everything else I learned,
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I held out my digital tape recorder and just said
to my aunt, my uncle and two grandparents who I
imagined were in that cabin with me, and I just said, Hey,
if you guys are real and I'm meant to help
people believe in the afterlife, I need you to try
to talk loud into this thing and then I'll say goodnight.
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So I left this tape recorder out in my hands
for just a minute, recorded the sound of rain drops,
and then I said good night. I played it back,
and when I did, my body was filled with goosebumps.
There around second number four forty six on the machine,
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I hear good night, Sandra, and then two women whisper
good night, good night, and then a male's voice says
good night. I can tell you that really took me
from a believing to knowing. I know your friend is
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going to be here in just a few minutes, so
I'll let you finish your coffee, and at that point
you tell me my friend just texted she won't be
here for another forty five minutes. Sandra. We have time
to talk more about this, so let's go to the
break and I'll tell you more. Let's get a refill
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and I'm having you pretend that we are meeting for
the very first time at a coffee shop. You just
lost your uncle and you're interested in what I know
about the afterlife. You just finished telling me that your
friend texted you, and you have almost an hour to
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wait for them, so you have plenty of time to
hear more. Next, you say, I really want to hear more,
Sandra about what you know. But I feel really lousy
and I'm sad all the time. This was my favorite uncle,
and I miss him, and I sure would like to
know that he's still around, so I continue. I told
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you earlier that you can have a copy of my book,
and I'd be happy to even send you one, but
I really want you to check out that chapter ten
about grief. We're never taught about grief ever, very few
people go to research it. But when my dad died,
I hit an all time low, really being depressed, and
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I had fights with my siblings and we were one
of those families that you hear about. It was just awful.
And after he passed, I went looking for, yes, more
reasons to believe in the afterlife? What would make good
people turn into these crazy monsters around grief? And I
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found some things that nobody knows about. First of all,
we grieve because we love. It's natural, it's normal, and
it is probably the most painful thing we go through.
So I'm going to ask you just be gentle on yourself. Okay,
this may sound a little bit crude, but if you
could imagine somebody who is addicted to some kind of
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drug and they get it taken away, they go through withdrawal, Right,
this is the same thing that happens with us humans.
When we love or are really connected to something, say
in a relationship with someone or a job that we've
had forever, and it gets taken away, we go through
this grieving process. So it's actually a change in chemistry
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going on in our brains. You know how cars use
all kinds of fluids to run, like oil and gasoline, power,
steering fluid and all that. Yeah, right, Well, we run
on these things called neurotransmitters. And what people don't know
is when we grieve, these neurotransmitters are depleted. So these
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neurotransmitters control things like our mood, our memory. So we
can often get angry, we can often feel a lot
of guilt, we can cry a lot. It's an awful
place to be. So again, I'm just asking you to
be gentle with yourself. There are some things you can
do to help make yourself feel better, some obvious ones there.
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Try to eat right, exercise, get some sunshine. But more
than that, we need moments of peace in our brain
so that these healthy neurotransmitters can build back up again.
I wish I could tell you there was a fast
way to the other side of grief, but the truth
is we've got to go right through it as human beings.
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But what I can tell you and I will tell
you more about the afterlife, is if you start believing
that your uncle is still around and he's still a
part of your life, it will make a difference. You
can still talk to him, There'll be signs that he
may give that he's still around that will certainly help
you feel better. Do practices like journaling, getting your thoughts
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and feelings out of your head and down on paper
or in your computer, Talk to friends, Do things that
normally would make you feel happy. If you like to read,
or you like to watch movies, or you like to
listen to music. Play some music from when you were
in high school. There's something about music that can just
trigger you back to another time. If you can meditate,
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or just slow down and try to pay attention to
your breath, or if you go out for a walk,
try to put that mind aside, the one that's talking
all the time, and just be present to everything that
you're seeing. These are little things they are, but put together,
they can really help build up these neurotransmitters to make
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you feel better. So that's enough about grief. Be gentle
on yourself, be gentle on other people. They don't know
they're going through this, and they can be kind of rough.
Let's get back to some afterlife talk. Okay. What I
know about the dying process is this. And you may
tell me your uncle passed with cancer, and I'll tell
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you my dad passed with cancer and it was not easy.
I saw him suffer up to his very last breath,
and it was painful to watch. It is said by
many that our soul departs our body before our bodies die,
that the actual dying process is easy. Nobody wants the pain.
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I agree with you one hundred percent on that, But
the actual process is easy. It is as if we
close our eyes and we open them to a place
that looks very similar to what we know here on earth,
except for you're going to see people and your pets
that you haven't seen in a long time. So yes,
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even our pets go there. Any critters that you've loved,
and of course people that you loved will be there.
It is said through people that have had these near
death experiences in other mediums that it's like crossing a
finish line to life. Could you imagine running crossing that
finish line and having a standing ovation of people just
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cheering you on. That's what it's like. But then when
you look at your body. I don't know how old
you are, but I currently am fifty seven years old.
But crossing that finish line, we get to pick our
perfect age and our perfect bodies. So your uncle is healthy,
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whole and well. Any pain he suffered before he departed Earth,
he no longer feels, and he no longer remembers. We
remember how we went, but all that emotion is no
longer with us. So no pain, no suffering, and he's
very much alive. We're going to find it very hard
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to believe that we are still us. We have bodies,
we have minds, but we don't communicate like we do
here on Earth. We can communicate hate telepathically. I think
that's pretty cool, and I actually think we have that
ability right here while we're on Earth, but not many
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of us make use of it. You've heard of a
life review. Well, I've interviewed a ton of people who
have had these near death experiences, and most say there
is a life review. Now, it's not one where Heaven
for you, hell for you. In fact, I don't believe
in hell if I can say that right here on earth,
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I think is the hardest part of our journey, but
our soul actually gets to relive our lives and gets
to look to see where it grew, where it maybe
could have made a difference and made different choices. What's
interesting is that people who have these life reviews say
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they experience them from another person's perspective. So if you
said something mean to someone, you'll actually feel how you
made them feel. And then there's a flip side to it.
After you go through and have this life review and
see the impact you had on people, you get to
see the ripple effect you had on people. So this
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is the time where you get to see the good
deeds that you did and what people did after you
had had that interaction with them. So I think that's
exciting to look forward to once there in the afterlife,
which I kind of liked the term hereafter because I
don't think they go up to heaven. I think we
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live in This may sound strange, the afterlife right now,
in the hereafter. In fact, through science, it's proven that
two or a lot more of forms of energy can
coexist in the exact same place, So we are energetic beings.
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The TV is on over there, there's radios going on,
people are using their GPS signals. There's all kinds of
invisible energy happening around us right now. And I say
the afterlife is right here hereafter. I like that term
because our loved ones are interacting in a world within
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a world. I actually think we're a part of their world,
and there's something so much bigger for all of us
to explore once we get there. Because that explains mediums.
If you've ever seen a medium working, and you'll notice
that they are in communication with loved ones right away.
I think our loved ones can be right here with us,
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and then they if you're talking to a medium on
zoom or on the phone, they can easily just pop
right in wherever. They are pretty magical beings we are
when we migrate to the other side. While we're over there,
it's great. We can learn anything we want to learn.
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They say they're these places called the Halls of Learning,
that we can actually go back in time. If your favorite.
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TV show is eighteen eighty three and you love the
look of the land back, then you can actually transport
yourself back and have these really virtual experiences.
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All opportunities for us to learn and to grow. I
have a secret dream of becoming a singer, but I
don't know if I'll do that while I'm on planet Earth.
But maybe you'll see me in a concert when I
go over to the afterlife. Death is nothing to be feared.
And one of the reasons I'm glad we can talk
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more about this is it's about how we live life powerfully. Now.
Most people are afraid of dying. And I hate to
say this, but we even have more of a fear
of living. People do you know that really go after
their dreams and they're not stopped by failures? Very few?
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How many people listen to the little voice in their
head that says you're not good enough, you're not smart enough,
and they don't go after their dreams. I think most
of us do that to a certain extent. So if
we can really embrace the reality of the afterlife and
that we don't die, we can have a really good
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life while we're here. So I know you have got
some more time, but I need to take a quick
break and then we'll come back and I'll tell you
some more reasons to believe in the afterlife. Okay, all right,
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and I'm having you imagine that we are brand new
friends meeting at a coffee place, and I am telling
you what I know about the afterlife. We don't have
much time together, so I am trying to get as
much in in a short time as possible. You tell
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me that you're absolutely fascinated by all of this, and
you tell me that you too have had experiences that
you can't explain. That you've known things about people, or
you know that the phone was going to ring and
it did and it's exactly the same person you thought
it would be, or that you and a friend say
the same thing at the same time, wondering if you
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are connected on the same channel somehow. You've also seen
some signs and you think is this my imagination or
could this be from a loved one? So you ask
me to tell you more, and I am happy to
do that. Yes, I have about one hundred and forty
episodes of this show called Shades of the Afterlife, and
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I am so excited about it because I can share
different reasons to believe. So go to your favorite podcast channel,
look up Shades of the Afterlife Sandra Champlain, and you'll
find out more about me. But you're asking about different
reasons to believe. I have been on this journey now
for I think it's twenty six years looking for good
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reasons to believe. Yes, there are such things as signs
from loved ones. There are things like being at a
stoplight and the car right in front of you has
the name of your loved one, even you can smell
their cologne even though they're long gone, or the smell
of somebody's pipe, or if your mother like to bake
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apple pie and she put extra cinnamon in it and
all of a sudden you kind of smell of that.
Those are some signs that they're still around. Sometimes you
may hear their voice. Other times you may feel their touch,
you may feel that they are around. We do have
what's called an etheric body. So, like I said, when
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we migrate to the other side, we still have a body. Well,
it's possible that they can alter the energy around us.
You've heard of lights flashing on and off. And there
are some people that have told me some great things.
One gentleman, his child had died only at three years old,
and of course he was grieving. He knew nothing about me,
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He knew nothing about after life. He wasn't looking for it.
And he held up his phone and he asked Siri
to play some news. Siri ended up putting on an
episode of my podcast, and it opened his mind up
to there's something more. So I'm thrilled that it did
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make a difference. Another time, a woman walked into her
house after her son had passed. Her television was off
when she left the house she lived alone. When she
walked back in, not only was the television on, but
it was a smart TV, so it had YouTube playing
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and it had one of my Sunday gatherings that had
the medium demonstration. So I think our loved ones can
manipulate things to get our attention that they're still around.
Here's something I think you'll find interesting. There's something called
induced after death communication. Might sound a little weird and
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a little scary, but it doesn't hurt. These are for
people that are deeply grieving. There are therapists that are
trained in this that can put people in a state
different than hypnosis, but can put them in a state
where they can actually reconnect with their loved one. Doctor
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Alan Botkin actually found out about this by mistake. There's
something called em DR that is you with veterans who
have served who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder PTSD,
and so it's a series of left right, left right
eye movements that the person does while remembering the experience
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that's causing them so much pain, and something happens to
dislodge the memory from the emotion. So it's proven to
be very effective at helping people with PTSD. Well, he
gave some people a little too much left right, left
right eye movements and it transported them to a place
where they could connect with loved ones. And while he
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never believed in the afterlife in the beginning. Eventually he
would practice this on other people, given them just a
little too much, and it worked with people. People could
actually see doctor Botkins's own deceased loved ones and give
him evidence that they were still around. So now there
are some special therapists around the world that do this. IADC.
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So that's pretty great. I don't know if you're interested,
but there's some really weird stuff I can tell you.
Oh you say, bring it on? Well, okay, those folks
that I told you about at the beginning who told
me about the electronic voice phenomena catching the voices of
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people in the afterlife on tape recorders, they kept telling
me about something called physical mediumship, and this blew my
mind and I actually thought, you know, things that sound
too good to be true. Actually are I hesitate to
tell you this story because even my own ego is saying,
Oh my gosh, my friend is going to think I'm
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crazy with this. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, though,
listen to what I have to say. I ended up
flying from Boston Airport, which is the closest big airport
to me, over to London, Heathrow and then taking a
cab ride for another hour and a half to go
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to a place called Banyon Retreat, and there they put
on events like the one I went to called Voices
from the Past, not only having experience practicing evidential mediumship,
so they had a medium there teaching that, but also
we learned about things called trance mediumship and physical mediumship.
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Trance mediumship is where a medium practices quieting their mind
so much and obviously through love and prayer and working
with their own soul. Invites people because we each have
a spirit team, but invites a member of their spirit
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team to actually speak through them. And I know that
sounds crazy. However, I witnessed a young man named Gott
Milligan with his eyes closed. He listened to a few
pieces of music just to relax him. And he's a lighthearted,
likable guy. But out of his mouth this deep voice
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of someone saying that their name is Eric, that they
lived and died in the eighteen hundreds, and this fellow
went on to deliver so many words of inspiration and
talking about the meaning of life, what happens when we die.
And then it was crazy because we could ask this
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fellow questions, and so I did ask a question about
do we suffer when we die? And that's when I
heard for the very first time that we do not.
And then we also don't bring memories of suffering with
us from life. What was also interesting is I asked
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the reason for suffering. One of the explanations that I
got was it's part of being here on earth that
there are opposites to everything. There's pain, there's joy, there's light,
there's dark, and while we're here, our soul needs these
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polar opposites so that we can experience, so that we
can learn, so that we can grow. And I really
understand that because I think you probably feel the same
way if you're looking back on your life. You needed
the tough times for you to learn and grow, and
look where you are now. If things just came easy
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for us, I don't think there would be a purpose
of life. And I know people that are very wealthy.
I know people that were born into wealth, and I
have to be honest with you. Although some are good people,
they don't know what it's like to work hard. There's
another guy that I had met who made a lot
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of money in his life, but he started from scratch
and he never stopped working since he was a little boy.
He was as normal, humble and down to earth as
they came. But I realized we can gain a whole
bunch of information and experiences through our life. So I
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think that's why we're here. Do we suffer here on earth? Absolutely?
Do we suffer in the afterlife? No, we don't. In fact,
you may be interested in this that guy I was
telling you about, Scott Milligan, that I met over at
that retreat center. Every Friday, or almost every Friday, for
the past three years, we've been meeting on zoom and
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he leads us through something similar to a meditation, but
we sit for healing, to give and receive healing, and
then at some point his voice goes quiet, and the
voice of this very special friend named Ericas. And so
people whoever wants to join us in our Zoom room,
whether they come for free or they leave a donation,
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they can ask questions. And over the past three years,
now going into our fourth year, I have almost two
hundred hours of these extraordinary conversations. And is it easy
for the mind to say, could this guy just be
putting this on? It's easy to ask that, but I think,
once you know somebody well enough, you know what's true.
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And I challenge anyone, I really do. Can you speak
a sentence without hesitating, without an umb or a break?
I don't think so. And this fellow Eric is as
smooth as they come. But not only that, can answer
questions about life and death in the afterlife and provide
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so much comfort and joy. Really incredible. So if you're
free sometime, come with me on the on the Fridays. Yep,
it's time for us to freshen up our coffees again.
And I know you've got to leave in a few minutes,
so why don't we get another cup of coffee and
then we can spend a few more minutes together and
(38:18):
I'll tell you some more really great things about life
and the afterlife. How does that sound? Let me tell
you one of my favorite quotes, don't be dismayed bye goodbyes.
A farewell is necessary before meeting again, and meeting again
after moments or lifetimes is certain for those who are friends.
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It gives me so much comfort to know that people
we think we've lost they're right by our side and
we will see them again. And then I can promise
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we are pretending to have a conversation as we
sit and have coffee. Being new friends meeting for the
first time. I would most definitely give you my phone number.
Tell you my email address is Sandra Champlain at gmail
dot com. Tell you again. Website is we Don't Die
(40:41):
dot com. At the bottom of the page into your
email address, it says, there's only the first few chapters
of my book. The secret is it's the entire book,
is there. I would encourage you to come visit me
on one of our Sunday gatherings, And if you're really
somebody who wants to exercise the power of your soul,
I would tell you to come visit us on one
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of our medium classes. You learn how souls communicate through
our emotions, through our feelings, through pictures in our mind,
through hearing, and then you get to practice on people.
It is incredible to be able to experience feeling the
love as if you were the deceased person, and being
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able to share memories, even if they're not your own,
with someone and having them say, yeah, that's my loved one.
So I would encourage you to do that. But let
me tell you about some of the other reasons I believe,
and just some of the other things that are out there.
You've heard of hospice, right, I think they're the best
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organization for anyone who's passing, loving, caring human beings that
either come to you in your home or you can
stay at a hospice center. They can handle medicaires and
people not only die with dignity, but it's like bring
on the party. The love is there. It's just a wonderful,
(42:08):
wonderful place. There are hospice doctors and nurses and volunteers
that all experience some really beautiful things as people pass.
Like I told you in the beginning of doctor Christopher
Kerr and you can check out his movie Death Is
But a Dream dot com and you can check out
his book Death Is But a Dream. Anyways, They just
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tell tons and tons of stories about people before they
pass and who is there with them. You know. I
found out that people have been researching the afterlife forever.
But there are some scientists, lots of them actually, and
even people like you've heard of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
that wrote the Sherlock Holmes Mysteries. You may not know
(42:54):
that he gave up writing Sherlock Holmes when he experienced
some these amazing things about the afterlife, and so he
spent his life helping people believe. I think it's just amazing.
Some mediums have the gift of also being an artist.
So out there there are people that are called spirit
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artists who not only give you a verbal reading telling
you that your loved one is around, but they draw
a picture of them. There are people like this Sonya
Andaldi in Brazil who are capturing just tons of images
of working with loved ones. She has never charged a
penny for this, and not that people shouldn't make money,
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because I do. I think people should make money so
that they can pay their bills. But this lady does not.
She does work on some donations, but she continuously every
day of the week, is doing these experiments. There's a
group of people working on what's called the soul phone,
And wouldn't that be something cool that we could hold
in our own hands like our cell phone, but we
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can talk to our loved ones. How far along are
they Well, they are working with a contraption that can
actually pick up energy from the hereafter, so people that
they've experimented with can ask loved ones yes, no questions.
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And somehow these people with their etheric bodies can jump
in and this detector can actually tell if it's a
yes or no answer. There are people investigating the afterlife
that you wouldn't think that there would be. There's a
former Navy commander who's retired who is a medium. There
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is a physicist, engineer, artists, mathematicians, scientists, people who have
trained in being mediums. We tend to think that science
doesn't believe in the afterlife, but there's a lot of
scientists doctors who are out there exploring. Here's something. It's
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not about the afterlife, but it just shows you kind
of how powerful we are as human beings. One of
my episodes from a couple of years ago, on Shades
of the Afterlife, I spoke with a woman named Nicola
Farmer who totally believes in life after death. Yes, but
she works with children because if you can imagine, we
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human beings are souls coming into this human life and
at a very early age, a lot of kids remember
being in heaven or being in the hereafter or here before,
I guess you would call it. But something happens, our
ego starts and we start buying into this. We're not
(45:49):
good enough, we're not smart enough. Well, this lady has
worked with children to really explore their psychic nature and
with children being blindfolded, they have accurately been able to
play catch with a ball. They've been able to work
drawing and putting bracelets together with beads with these blindfolds on. Oh,
(46:13):
here's the green bead that I need. There's a YouTube
video of people that went to see her work and
they were actually drawing a picture and this kid, who
was blindfolded knew exactly what was being drawn. So it
just shows you that we are so much more than
we think we are. There is talk about reincarnation out
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in the world. It's one of these things where if
it empowers you to believe it, go for it, but
don't be frightened by it. Some people think, if say,
my child dies, is he reincarnated or will I see
them again in heaven.
Speaker 4 (46:49):
It is my.
Speaker 5 (46:49):
Personal belief and I don't push this on anybody that
the possibility of reincarnation is real, but it's not for everybody.
And I think if it is real and we do
get to come back, that there's part of us that
can actually remain on the other side. One of the
episodes I did there was a young boy who actually
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had memories something like forty seven memories of someone who
had lived long before he was born. But then there's
also research that as someone may claim to be reincarnated
of somebody, mediums have still been able to work with
that loved one who has passed on. So I personally think, yeah,
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we can be in two places at once. I think
our home really is in the afterlife or in the hereafter,
but there may be certain times when a part of
us can come back. And why that makes sense to
me is fifty years ago there were only four billion
people on planet Earth, and now in twenty twenty three
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we are going on. I think it's eight billion something
like that, So population has doubled. If there was only reincarnation,
would still be four billion people, right, something to think about.
Don't be afraid of the afterlife. I know that's easy
to say, but our loved ones truly are around us
and they want us to know that they're still alive.
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Why so that we can go on and we can
continue having a good life. So many people, just before
they have an operation, whether or not they believed in
God or a bigger picture, they pray. So I think
part of us knows that there's something bigger. But also
it's normal to look back at life and what we
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did do and what we didn't do and have regrets.
So what would it be like if we lived every
day like it would maybe not be our last, but
that we are definitely going to go on and that
everything in our life matters. If we know we're going
to have this life review, how about taking care of
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some of this stuff while we're here right now. I
know you told me earlier that you've had a loved
one who passed. When you go to Shades of the Afterlife,
check out episode one hundred and fifteen. There's something that's
called sitting in the power, and I think it's one
of the most powerful things we human beings can do.
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You know, we all have an iPad or a phone,
and we need to plug it in to make sure
it works. I think our soul is the same way.
I think all of us are tapped into this divine wisdom.
So it's similar to a meditation technique that can help
us all to be in the present moment, help us
(49:36):
remember who we are, help us have more of those
spiritual experiences. In that episode one fifteen, I take you
on an experiential journey where you actually get to meet
and reunite with your loved one. It's very powerful. I
(49:56):
wish we could stay longer and have more coffee together
or go out for lunch, but I know your time
is short. I think that in this conversation, can I
convince you of the afterlife?
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Eh?
Speaker 5 (50:12):
Probably not. But what I can do is I can
tell you there's a whole bunch of good men and
women around the world and that have been for hundreds,
if not thousands of years, communicating with those so called
dead and exploring this. There are some smart people. I
used to be such a skeptic and think this was
(50:34):
just woo oo stuff for the new age folk. It's
not that at all. Scientists, doctors, great professional people, moms
and dads, everybody are interested. More people right now on
planet Earth are interested and believe in the afterlife than don't.
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But find something that excites you, whether it's listening to
the podcast or taking a class in mediumship or figuring
out electronic voice phenomena EVP. But take something and run
with it. Find what you're passionate about. It may even
be putting a pen to paper and talking to your
(51:16):
loved one and being in a quiet place in your
mind and see what gets written. It may be words
from them. I'll leave you with just a quick thing
is if you can have a picture of your loved
one or a favorite memory and start talking to them.
Take a walk down memory lane. Think of some of
the fun you had to me. That is opening a
(51:40):
door for them and allowing them to walk through. You
may be surprised at some of the thoughts and feelings
that come right back to you. You may even turn
on the radio and their favorite song is playing. Our
time together is over. I appreciate you spending this time
with me. You are loved, You are one of a kind.
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We do go on. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for
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I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reason and we now
know that our loved ones have survived physical death, and
so will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife. Imagine
(01:10):
that you're sitting in your favorite coffee place. You've got
a friend that you're going to meet in a little while.
You've never heard of me, Sander Champlain, and you're looking
at the television in the coffee shop. I'm sitting next
to you, just reading a paper and suddenly someone comes
on the news talking about life after death. Our eyes
(01:30):
meet and you tell me I would really love to
believe that's true. Well, sitting next to Sander Champlain, I
tend to speak up, even if inside I'm nervous or afraid.
So I would ask you, would it be okay if
I shared a little bit of my experience and you
tell me, well, I've got a friend meeting me here
(01:50):
in about ten minutes, so I would love to hear.
My uncle just passed away last week, and I've really
been looking is there evidence of the afterlife? And I
sure feel lousy because he's died. And I say, okay,
we've got ten minutes together. Do you mind if I
just go for it? And you say go for it? Well, first,
(02:13):
my name is Sandra. It's really nice to meet you.
I am the host of a podcast called Shades of
the Afterlife, with now over one hundred and forty episodes.
I wasn't always this person, believe it or not. About
twenty five years ago, I went through a huge fear
of dying that led me on a massive discovery to
(02:35):
see if there's any proof. I was never going to
tell anybody about what I found. I just needed to
rest my mind. There's a lot obviously I can't tell
you in this ten minutes, but with the information that
I found, and also some information about grief, so I
think I can help as far as your uncle's passing goes.
(02:55):
I wrote a book called We Don't Die, a skeptics
discovery of life after death, about ten years ago, and
so even though I don't have a copy with me,
I can tell you that my website is we Don't
Die dot com and if you scroll to the bottom
and put in your email address, up will pop a
box and it says there's only the first few chapters
(03:18):
of my book. But the truth is the entire book
is there. Chapter ten is how to Survive Grief. And
like I said, I know that would make a difference
about your uncle. But since I wrote the book, I
have gone on to research a whole bunch of stuff.
So I know it's hard to believe in the afterlife.
(03:38):
But my friend, let me just take a second and
point to your cell phone that's sitting there. Isn't it
awesome to think that that phone can communicate with people
all over the world, and then also through the Internet,
you can get any bit of information about just about anything.
So it is possible for things to connect without being
(03:59):
plugged in. And I say, it's possible to connect with
our loved ones even though they're no longer alive. That
we all possess this faculty kind of like our phones
do to connect. And while we're talking about cell phones
pretty wild, there are other things that are equally as
mind blowing, like, if you think about it, we live
(04:20):
in this ever expanding universe, and also the fact that
if you study anything in the quantum level down to
every atom that makes us up, all we are is
vibrating energy. One of the things that I faced being
an afterlife researcher is I was so skeptical, but then
I realized that we all have this mind that is
(04:43):
not our best champion. We wake up in the morning
and often it says negative things about us. It doesn't
tell us we can do anything. We're so powerful. So
I personally think, my friend, that we human beings don't
remember who we are because we have this voice. I
won't go through the big stuff that I have in
my book because I know you're going to read it,
(05:05):
but basically, a couple of the things that really struck
me as reasons to believe was one. I took a
course in mediumship, you know, talking to people that are dead.
I didn't think it was real, and I took this
course just to convince myself, is this a real thing
or is this all fake? And out of my own head,
(05:25):
I was able to accurately tell somebody about their loved one,
and not just general. I knew that this lady's grandfather's
name was Yon, that he was a fisherman in Denmark,
that he died from lung cancer, and even specifically that
he never told his own daughter that he loved her.
(05:45):
And so I thought I was making this all up,
and in fact I was giving her details about her
loved one. So over the past, I don't know, fifteen
years or so now, I've dabbled in medium readings. I
don't do it professionally because it does work through our
imagination and I am wrong a lot of times. But
I do know that it is real because I've had
(06:07):
plenty of opportunities to witness it. Since COVID hit, there
was so much grief in the world, and some friends
of mine and I got together and we started doing
a free Sunday service on zoom. You might be interested
in coming sometime. It's called the Sunday Gathering and it's
filled with inspiration. But also at the end there's a
(06:28):
medium demonstration so you can see what I'm talking about,
just how close our loved ones really are to us.
Something I think you'll find interesting right now is there's
a doctor. He's a hospice doctor called Christopher Kerr, and
he has researched over seventeen hundred people who have passed
in hospice. And you've probably heard that people just before
(06:51):
they pass can see a loved one or reach out
into space like they're reaching for someone. Even Steve Jobs,
remember him who created Apple. The last thing he said
was oh wow, oh wow, oh wow, with a smile
on his face, just before he passed. Well, doctor Christopher
Kerr has seen that not only people just before they
(07:12):
die have these visions, but it can be a month
to six weeks before they pass. And they're more than visions.
They call them dreams, but they occur to the person
just as real as you and I sitting here having coffee.
People are young, people are healthy, and most times they
tell them they're going on a trip. So I find
(07:33):
it so comforting that our loved ones help us when
it's our time to go. Not too long ago, my
former boyfriend passed away, and although it's been a couple
of years since we spoke, I was really shocked. Two
great things happened. One is I have some friends that
are mediums. Nobody knew of my relationship with this gentleman.
(07:58):
It was not posted on social media, and through a
friend's mouth, she must have given me forty bits of
details about things that I had done with this fella together,
and it felt like he was whispering in her ear,
things so specific, like I helped him write two books,
and how every time we went on a date, we'd
just sit at the bar and niver at a table. Also,
(08:21):
there's a researcher in Brazil named Sonya Andaldi, who I'm
lucky to be friends with now. But for well over
thirty years she was working with parents in capturing voices
of children in the afterlife using something called electronic voice Phenomena.
In the past five or six years, she's been working
(08:43):
with images and videos, filming things like steam or static
and pictures of people's loved ones appear when she goes
through frame by frame in her recordings, and my fella
that I was telling you about has come through in
several images, almost looking three dimensional, so I know he's around.
(09:07):
I know we just have a few minutes before your
friend comes. But I also want to tell you. You've
heard of near death experiences, right, people who are brought
back from the dead. There are so many similar stories,
and many of them people see their loved ones. Something
that I find so fantastic is the research of Ken Ring,
(09:27):
who not only studied these near death experiences, but he
studied near death experiences of people that were blind. Never
before had they had vision, and in that state they
could see again. Some people actually saw loved ones. People
saw loved ones that they didn't know were dead, and
they actually were. Some people not only hovered over their body,
(09:52):
but they were able to leave the hospital. One woman
saw a single red shoe sitting on the rooftop of
the hospital, and somebody checked and sure enough it was there.
Another woman, when she was dead, she floated outside of
her body and into the next room. She saw her
(10:12):
husband talking to the doctor. Doctor dropped a pen. The
man picked it up, noticed the doctor had two different
colored socks, and that was true. I think one of
the things that really sealed it for me way back
when with the reality of the afterlife is that I
found out how to do these recordings, this electronic voice phenomena.
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And as creepy and crazy as this may sound, I
had gone to a retreat center and studied with these
folks named Tom and Lisa Butler, who taught just how
close our loved ones are and that they can actually
manipulate inside of a digital tape recorder a regular tape
recorder where probably our iPhones would work. So what we
(10:57):
did is we would record sounds of stat or the
wind blowing, or water on or in my case, I
recorded rain drops. And if you can picture this, me
sitting in a cabin alone, really believing at this point
that the afterlife was real from everything else I learned,
(11:18):
I held out my digital tape recorder and just said
to my aunt, my uncle and two grandparents who I
imagined were in that cabin with me, and I just said, Hey,
if you guys are real and I'm meant to help
people believe in the afterlife, I need you to try
to talk loud into this thing and then I'll say goodnight.
(11:40):
So I left this tape recorder out in my hands
for just a minute, recorded the sound of rain drops,
and then I said good night. I played it back,
and when I did, my body was filled with goosebumps.
There around second number four forty six on the machine,
(12:02):
I hear good night, Sandra, and then two women whisper
good night, good night, and then a male's voice says
good night. I can tell you that really took me
from a believing to knowing. I know your friend is
(12:22):
going to be here in just a few minutes, so
I'll let you finish your coffee, and at that point
you tell me my friend just texted she won't be
here for another forty five minutes. Sandra. We have time
to talk more about this, so let's go to the
break and I'll tell you more. Let's get a refill
(12:43):
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and I'm having you pretend that we are meeting for
the very first time at a coffee shop. You just
lost your uncle and you're interested in what I know
about the afterlife. You just finished telling me that your
friend texted you, and you have almost an hour to
(14:23):
wait for them, so you have plenty of time to
hear more. Next, you say, I really want to hear more,
Sandra about what you know. But I feel really lousy
and I'm sad all the time. This was my favorite uncle,
and I miss him, and I sure would like to
know that he's still around, so I continue. I told
(14:46):
you earlier that you can have a copy of my book,
and I'd be happy to even send you one, but
I really want you to check out that chapter ten
about grief. We're never taught about grief ever, very few
people go to research it. But when my dad died,
I hit an all time low, really being depressed, and
(15:09):
I had fights with my siblings and we were one
of those families that you hear about. It was just awful.
And after he passed, I went looking for, yes, more
reasons to believe in the afterlife? What would make good
people turn into these crazy monsters around grief? And I
(15:30):
found some things that nobody knows about. First of all,
we grieve because we love. It's natural, it's normal, and
it is probably the most painful thing we go through.
So I'm going to ask you just be gentle on yourself. Okay,
this may sound a little bit crude, but if you
could imagine somebody who is addicted to some kind of
(15:52):
drug and they get it taken away, they go through withdrawal, Right,
this is the same thing that happens with us humans.
When we love or are really connected to something, say
in a relationship with someone or a job that we've
had forever, and it gets taken away, we go through
this grieving process. So it's actually a change in chemistry
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going on in our brains. You know how cars use
all kinds of fluids to run, like oil and gasoline, power,
steering fluid and all that. Yeah, right, Well, we run
on these things called neurotransmitters. And what people don't know
is when we grieve, these neurotransmitters are depleted. So these
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neurotransmitters control things like our mood, our memory. So we
can often get angry, we can often feel a lot
of guilt, we can cry a lot. It's an awful
place to be. So again, I'm just asking you to
be gentle with yourself. There are some things you can
do to help make yourself feel better, some obvious ones there.
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Try to eat right, exercise, get some sunshine. But more
than that, we need moments of peace in our brain
so that these healthy neurotransmitters can build back up again.
I wish I could tell you there was a fast
way to the other side of grief, but the truth
is we've got to go right through it as human beings.
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But what I can tell you and I will tell
you more about the afterlife, is if you start believing
that your uncle is still around and he's still a
part of your life, it will make a difference. You
can still talk to him, There'll be signs that he
may give that he's still around that will certainly help
you feel better. Do practices like journaling, getting your thoughts
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and feelings out of your head and down on paper
or in your computer, Talk to friends, Do things that
normally would make you feel happy. If you like to read,
or you like to watch movies, or you like to
listen to music. Play some music from when you were
in high school. There's something about music that can just
trigger you back to another time. If you can meditate,
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or just slow down and try to pay attention to
your breath, or if you go out for a walk,
try to put that mind aside, the one that's talking
all the time, and just be present to everything that
you're seeing. These are little things they are, but put together,
they can really help build up these neurotransmitters to make
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you feel better. So that's enough about grief. Be gentle
on yourself, be gentle on other people. They don't know
they're going through this, and they can be kind of rough.
Let's get back to some afterlife talk. Okay. What I
know about the dying process is this. And you may
tell me your uncle passed with cancer, and I'll tell
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you my dad passed with cancer and it was not easy.
I saw him suffer up to his very last breath,
and it was painful to watch. It is said by
many that our soul departs our body before our bodies die,
that the actual dying process is easy. Nobody wants the pain.
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I agree with you one hundred percent on that, But
the actual process is easy. It is as if we
close our eyes and we open them to a place
that looks very similar to what we know here on earth,
except for you're going to see people and your pets
that you haven't seen in a long time. So yes,
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even our pets go there. Any critters that you've loved,
and of course people that you loved will be there.
It is said through people that have had these near
death experiences in other mediums that it's like crossing a
finish line to life. Could you imagine running crossing that
finish line and having a standing ovation of people just
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cheering you on. That's what it's like. But then when
you look at your body. I don't know how old
you are, but I currently am fifty seven years old.
But crossing that finish line, we get to pick our
perfect age and our perfect bodies. So your uncle is healthy,
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whole and well. Any pain he suffered before he departed Earth,
he no longer feels, and he no longer remembers. We
remember how we went, but all that emotion is no
longer with us. So no pain, no suffering, and he's
very much alive. We're going to find it very hard
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to believe that we are still us. We have bodies,
we have minds, but we don't communicate like we do
here on Earth. We can communicate hate telepathically. I think
that's pretty cool, and I actually think we have that
ability right here while we're on Earth, but not many
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of us make use of it. You've heard of a
life review. Well, I've interviewed a ton of people who
have had these near death experiences, and most say there
is a life review. Now, it's not one where Heaven
for you, hell for you. In fact, I don't believe
in hell if I can say that right here on earth,
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I think is the hardest part of our journey, but
our soul actually gets to relive our lives and gets
to look to see where it grew, where it maybe
could have made a difference and made different choices. What's
interesting is that people who have these life reviews say
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they experience them from another person's perspective. So if you
said something mean to someone, you'll actually feel how you
made them feel. And then there's a flip side to it.
After you go through and have this life review and
see the impact you had on people, you get to
see the ripple effect you had on people. So this
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is the time where you get to see the good
deeds that you did and what people did after you
had had that interaction with them. So I think that's
exciting to look forward to once there in the afterlife,
which I kind of liked the term hereafter because I
don't think they go up to heaven. I think we
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live in This may sound strange, the afterlife right now,
in the hereafter. In fact, through science, it's proven that
two or a lot more of forms of energy can
coexist in the exact same place, So we are energetic beings.
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The TV is on over there, there's radios going on,
people are using their GPS signals. There's all kinds of
invisible energy happening around us right now. And I say
the afterlife is right here hereafter. I like that term
because our loved ones are interacting in a world within
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a world. I actually think we're a part of their world,
and there's something so much bigger for all of us
to explore once we get there. Because that explains mediums.
If you've ever seen a medium working, and you'll notice
that they are in communication with loved ones right away.
I think our loved ones can be right here with us,
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and then they if you're talking to a medium on
zoom or on the phone, they can easily just pop
right in wherever. They are pretty magical beings we are
when we migrate to the other side. While we're over there,
it's great. We can learn anything we want to learn.
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They say they're these places called the Halls of Learning,
that we can actually go back in time. If your favorite.
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TV show is eighteen eighty three and you love the
look of the land back, then you can actually transport
yourself back and have these really virtual experiences.
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All opportunities for us to learn and to grow. I
have a secret dream of becoming a singer, but I
don't know if I'll do that while I'm on planet Earth.
But maybe you'll see me in a concert when I
go over to the afterlife. Death is nothing to be feared.
And one of the reasons I'm glad we can talk
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more about this is it's about how we live life powerfully. Now.
Most people are afraid of dying. And I hate to
say this, but we even have more of a fear
of living. People do you know that really go after
their dreams and they're not stopped by failures? Very few?
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How many people listen to the little voice in their
head that says you're not good enough, you're not smart enough,
and they don't go after their dreams. I think most
of us do that to a certain extent. So if
we can really embrace the reality of the afterlife and
that we don't die, we can have a really good
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life while we're here. So I know you have got
some more time, but I need to take a quick
break and then we'll come back and I'll tell you
some more reasons to believe in the afterlife. Okay, all right,
We're going to freshen up our cup of coffee and
we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain,
and I'm having you imagine that we are brand new
friends meeting at a coffee place, and I am telling
you what I know about the afterlife. We don't have
much time together, so I am trying to get as
much in in a short time as possible. You tell
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me that you're absolutely fascinated by all of this, and
you tell me that you too have had experiences that
you can't explain. That you've known things about people, or
you know that the phone was going to ring and
it did and it's exactly the same person you thought
it would be, or that you and a friend say
the same thing at the same time, wondering if you
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are connected on the same channel somehow. You've also seen
some signs and you think is this my imagination or
could this be from a loved one? So you ask
me to tell you more, and I am happy to
do that. Yes, I have about one hundred and forty
episodes of this show called Shades of the Afterlife, and
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I am so excited about it because I can share
different reasons to believe. So go to your favorite podcast channel,
look up Shades of the Afterlife Sandra Champlain, and you'll
find out more about me. But you're asking about different
reasons to believe. I have been on this journey now
for I think it's twenty six years looking for good
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reasons to believe. Yes, there are such things as signs
from loved ones. There are things like being at a
stoplight and the car right in front of you has
the name of your loved one, even you can smell
their cologne even though they're long gone, or the smell
of somebody's pipe, or if your mother like to bake
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apple pie and she put extra cinnamon in it and
all of a sudden you kind of smell of that.
Those are some signs that they're still around. Sometimes you
may hear their voice. Other times you may feel their touch,
you may feel that they are around. We do have
what's called an etheric body. So, like I said, when
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we migrate to the other side, we still have a body. Well,
it's possible that they can alter the energy around us.
You've heard of lights flashing on and off. And there
are some people that have told me some great things.
One gentleman, his child had died only at three years old,
and of course he was grieving. He knew nothing about me,
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He knew nothing about after life. He wasn't looking for it.
And he held up his phone and he asked Siri
to play some news. Siri ended up putting on an
episode of my podcast, and it opened his mind up
to there's something more. So I'm thrilled that it did
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make a difference. Another time, a woman walked into her
house after her son had passed. Her television was off
when she left the house she lived alone. When she
walked back in, not only was the television on, but
it was a smart TV, so it had YouTube playing
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and it had one of my Sunday gatherings that had
the medium demonstration. So I think our loved ones can
manipulate things to get our attention that they're still around.
Here's something I think you'll find interesting. There's something called
induced after death communication. Might sound a little weird and
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a little scary, but it doesn't hurt. These are for
people that are deeply grieving. There are therapists that are
trained in this that can put people in a state
different than hypnosis, but can put them in a state
where they can actually reconnect with their loved one. Doctor
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Alan Botkin actually found out about this by mistake. There's
something called em DR that is you with veterans who
have served who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder PTSD,
and so it's a series of left right, left right
eye movements that the person does while remembering the experience
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that's causing them so much pain, and something happens to
dislodge the memory from the emotion. So it's proven to
be very effective at helping people with PTSD. Well, he
gave some people a little too much left right, left
right eye movements and it transported them to a place
where they could connect with loved ones. And while he
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never believed in the afterlife in the beginning. Eventually he
would practice this on other people, given them just a
little too much, and it worked with people. People could
actually see doctor Botkins's own deceased loved ones and give
him evidence that they were still around. So now there
are some special therapists around the world that do this. IADC.
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So that's pretty great. I don't know if you're interested,
but there's some really weird stuff I can tell you.
Oh you say, bring it on? Well, okay, those folks
that I told you about at the beginning who told
me about the electronic voice phenomena catching the voices of
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people in the afterlife on tape recorders, they kept telling
me about something called physical mediumship, and this blew my
mind and I actually thought, you know, things that sound
too good to be true. Actually are I hesitate to
tell you this story because even my own ego is saying,
Oh my gosh, my friend is going to think I'm
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crazy with this. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, though,
listen to what I have to say. I ended up
flying from Boston Airport, which is the closest big airport
to me, over to London, Heathrow and then taking a
cab ride for another hour and a half to go
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to a place called Banyon Retreat, and there they put
on events like the one I went to called Voices
from the Past, not only having experience practicing evidential mediumship,
so they had a medium there teaching that, but also
we learned about things called trance mediumship and physical mediumship.
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Trance mediumship is where a medium practices quieting their mind
so much and obviously through love and prayer and working
with their own soul. Invites people because we each have
a spirit team, but invites a member of their spirit
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team to actually speak through them. And I know that
sounds crazy. However, I witnessed a young man named Gott
Milligan with his eyes closed. He listened to a few
pieces of music just to relax him. And he's a lighthearted,
likable guy. But out of his mouth this deep voice
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of someone saying that their name is Eric, that they
lived and died in the eighteen hundreds, and this fellow
went on to deliver so many words of inspiration and
talking about the meaning of life, what happens when we die.
And then it was crazy because we could ask this
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fellow questions, and so I did ask a question about
do we suffer when we die? And that's when I
heard for the very first time that we do not.
And then we also don't bring memories of suffering with
us from life. What was also interesting is I asked
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the reason for suffering. One of the explanations that I
got was it's part of being here on earth that
there are opposites to everything. There's pain, there's joy, there's light,
there's dark, and while we're here, our soul needs these
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polar opposites so that we can experience, so that we
can learn, so that we can grow. And I really
understand that because I think you probably feel the same
way if you're looking back on your life. You needed
the tough times for you to learn and grow, and
look where you are now. If things just came easy
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for us, I don't think there would be a purpose
of life. And I know people that are very wealthy.
I know people that were born into wealth, and I
have to be honest with you. Although some are good people,
they don't know what it's like to work hard. There's
another guy that I had met who made a lot
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of money in his life, but he started from scratch
and he never stopped working since he was a little boy.
He was as normal, humble and down to earth as
they came. But I realized we can gain a whole
bunch of information and experiences through our life. So I
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think that's why we're here. Do we suffer here on earth? Absolutely?
Do we suffer in the afterlife? No, we don't. In fact,
you may be interested in this that guy I was
telling you about, Scott Milligan, that I met over at
that retreat center. Every Friday, or almost every Friday, for
the past three years, we've been meeting on zoom and
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he leads us through something similar to a meditation, but
we sit for healing, to give and receive healing, and
then at some point his voice goes quiet, and the
voice of this very special friend named Ericas. And so
people whoever wants to join us in our Zoom room,
whether they come for free or they leave a donation,
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they can ask questions. And over the past three years,
now going into our fourth year, I have almost two
hundred hours of these extraordinary conversations. And is it easy
for the mind to say, could this guy just be
putting this on? It's easy to ask that, but I think,
once you know somebody well enough, you know what's true.
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And I challenge anyone, I really do. Can you speak
a sentence without hesitating, without an umb or a break?
I don't think so. And this fellow Eric is as
smooth as they come. But not only that, can answer
questions about life and death in the afterlife and provide
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so much comfort and joy. Really incredible. So if you're
free sometime, come with me on the on the Fridays. Yep,
it's time for us to freshen up our coffees again.
And I know you've got to leave in a few minutes,
so why don't we get another cup of coffee and
then we can spend a few more minutes together and
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I'll tell you some more really great things about life
and the afterlife. How does that sound? Let me tell
you one of my favorite quotes, don't be dismayed bye goodbyes.
A farewell is necessary before meeting again, and meeting again
after moments or lifetimes is certain for those who are friends.
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It gives me so much comfort to know that people
we think we've lost they're right by our side and
we will see them again. And then I can promise
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we are pretending to have a conversation as we
sit and have coffee. Being new friends meeting for the
first time. I would most definitely give you my phone number.
Tell you my email address is Sandra Champlain at gmail
dot com. Tell you again. Website is we Don't Die
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dot com. At the bottom of the page into your
email address, it says, there's only the first few chapters
of my book. The secret is it's the entire book,
is there. I would encourage you to come visit me
on one of our Sunday gatherings, And if you're really
somebody who wants to exercise the power of your soul,
I would tell you to come visit us on one
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of our medium classes. You learn how souls communicate through
our emotions, through our feelings, through pictures in our mind,
through hearing, and then you get to practice on people.
It is incredible to be able to experience feeling the
love as if you were the deceased person, and being
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able to share memories, even if they're not your own,
with someone and having them say, yeah, that's my loved one.
So I would encourage you to do that. But let
me tell you about some of the other reasons I believe,
and just some of the other things that are out there.
You've heard of hospice, right, I think they're the best
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organization for anyone who's passing, loving, caring human beings that
either come to you in your home or you can
stay at a hospice center. They can handle medicaires and
people not only die with dignity, but it's like bring
on the party. The love is there. It's just a wonderful,
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wonderful place. There are hospice doctors and nurses and volunteers
that all experience some really beautiful things as people pass.
Like I told you in the beginning of doctor Christopher
Kerr and you can check out his movie Death Is
But a Dream dot com and you can check out
his book Death Is But a Dream. Anyways, They just
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tell tons and tons of stories about people before they
pass and who is there with them. You know. I
found out that people have been researching the afterlife forever.
But there are some scientists, lots of them actually, and
even people like you've heard of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
that wrote the Sherlock Holmes Mysteries. You may not know
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that he gave up writing Sherlock Holmes when he experienced
some these amazing things about the afterlife, and so he
spent his life helping people believe. I think it's just amazing.
Some mediums have the gift of also being an artist.
So out there there are people that are called spirit
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artists who not only give you a verbal reading telling
you that your loved one is around, but they draw
a picture of them. There are people like this Sonya
Andaldi in Brazil who are capturing just tons of images
of working with loved ones. She has never charged a
penny for this, and not that people shouldn't make money,
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because I do. I think people should make money so
that they can pay their bills. But this lady does not.
She does work on some donations, but she continuously every
day of the week, is doing these experiments. There's a
group of people working on what's called the soul phone,
And wouldn't that be something cool that we could hold
in our own hands like our cell phone, but we
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can talk to our loved ones. How far along are
they Well, they are working with a contraption that can
actually pick up energy from the hereafter, so people that
they've experimented with can ask loved ones yes, no questions.
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And somehow these people with their etheric bodies can jump
in and this detector can actually tell if it's a
yes or no answer. There are people investigating the afterlife
that you wouldn't think that there would be. There's a
former Navy commander who's retired who is a medium. There
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is a physicist, engineer, artists, mathematicians, scientists, people who have
trained in being mediums. We tend to think that science
doesn't believe in the afterlife, but there's a lot of
scientists doctors who are out there exploring. Here's something. It's
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not about the afterlife, but it just shows you kind
of how powerful we are as human beings. One of
my episodes from a couple of years ago, on Shades
of the Afterlife, I spoke with a woman named Nicola
Farmer who totally believes in life after death. Yes, but
she works with children because if you can imagine, we
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human beings are souls coming into this human life and
at a very early age, a lot of kids remember
being in heaven or being in the hereafter or here before,
I guess you would call it. But something happens, our
ego starts and we start buying into this. We're not
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good enough, we're not smart enough. Well, this lady has
worked with children to really explore their psychic nature and
with children being blindfolded, they have accurately been able to
play catch with a ball. They've been able to work
drawing and putting bracelets together with beads with these blindfolds on. Oh,
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here's the green bead that I need. There's a YouTube
video of people that went to see her work and
they were actually drawing a picture and this kid, who
was blindfolded knew exactly what was being drawn. So it
just shows you that we are so much more than
we think we are. There is talk about reincarnation out
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in the world. It's one of these things where if
it empowers you to believe it, go for it, but
don't be frightened by it. Some people think, if say,
my child dies, is he reincarnated or will I see
them again in heaven.
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It is my.
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Personal belief and I don't push this on anybody that
the possibility of reincarnation is real, but it's not for everybody.
And I think if it is real and we do
get to come back, that there's part of us that
can actually remain on the other side. One of the
episodes I did there was a young boy who actually
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had memories something like forty seven memories of someone who
had lived long before he was born. But then there's
also research that as someone may claim to be reincarnated
of somebody, mediums have still been able to work with
that loved one who has passed on. So I personally think, yeah,
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we can be in two places at once. I think
our home really is in the afterlife or in the hereafter,
but there may be certain times when a part of
us can come back. And why that makes sense to
me is fifty years ago there were only four billion
people on planet Earth, and now in twenty twenty three
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we are going on. I think it's eight billion something
like that, So population has doubled. If there was only reincarnation,
would still be four billion people, right, something to think about.
Don't be afraid of the afterlife. I know that's easy
to say, but our loved ones truly are around us
and they want us to know that they're still alive.
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Why so that we can go on and we can
continue having a good life. So many people, just before
they have an operation, whether or not they believed in
God or a bigger picture, they pray. So I think
part of us knows that there's something bigger. But also
it's normal to look back at life and what we
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did do and what we didn't do and have regrets.
So what would it be like if we lived every
day like it would maybe not be our last, but
that we are definitely going to go on and that
everything in our life matters. If we know we're going
to have this life review, how about taking care of
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some of this stuff while we're here right now. I
know you told me earlier that you've had a loved
one who passed. When you go to Shades of the Afterlife,
check out episode one hundred and fifteen. There's something that's
called sitting in the power, and I think it's one
of the most powerful things we human beings can do.
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You know, we all have an iPad or a phone,
and we need to plug it in to make sure
it works. I think our soul is the same way.
I think all of us are tapped into this divine wisdom.
So it's similar to a meditation technique that can help
us all to be in the present moment, help us
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remember who we are, help us have more of those
spiritual experiences. In that episode one fifteen, I take you
on an experiential journey where you actually get to meet
and reunite with your loved one. It's very powerful. I
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wish we could stay longer and have more coffee together
or go out for lunch, but I know your time
is short. I think that in this conversation, can I
convince you of the afterlife?
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Eh?
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Probably not. But what I can do is I can
tell you there's a whole bunch of good men and
women around the world and that have been for hundreds,
if not thousands of years, communicating with those so called
dead and exploring this. There are some smart people. I
used to be such a skeptic and think this was
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just woo oo stuff for the new age folk. It's
not that at all. Scientists, doctors, great professional people, moms
and dads, everybody are interested. More people right now on
planet Earth are interested and believe in the afterlife than don't.
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But find something that excites you, whether it's listening to
the podcast or taking a class in mediumship or figuring
out electronic voice phenomena EVP. But take something and run
with it. Find what you're passionate about. It may even
be putting a pen to paper and talking to your
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loved one and being in a quiet place in your
mind and see what gets written. It may be words
from them. I'll leave you with just a quick thing
is if you can have a picture of your loved
one or a favorite memory and start talking to them.
Take a walk down memory lane. Think of some of
the fun you had to me. That is opening a
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door for them and allowing them to walk through. You
may be surprised at some of the thoughts and feelings
that come right back to you. You may even turn
on the radio and their favorite song is playing. Our
time together is over. I appreciate you spending this time
with me. You are loved, You are one of a kind.
(52:03):
We do go on. I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for
listening to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and
Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network.
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