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of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain.
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Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlifeilliam Shakespeare said
(01:01):
in his play As You Like It, all the world's
a stage, and all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances, and one man
in his lifetime plays many parts. Today we're going to
be talking about our life being the stage for our souls.
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I have four very different stories of four men who
each had a near death experience. Let's start with Andy,
who had his experience when he was just a teenager
but remembers it vividly now at the age of eighty four.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
My name is Andy Petro, eighty four. It was a
few days before graduation from high school. We went as
a class to a lake outside of Detroit. I'm swimming
out to the raft to where my friends are, and
about halfway there, I get really bad cramps and I
can't kick anymore, and then I'm starting to I go
down one time. I'm struggling to get up to the top.
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I reach the top, I look over. I can see
my friends on the platform. I'm waving to them, but
I can't stay above the water. They're waving back, thinking
I'm playing a game. And then I'm sinking down. From
that point on, I never came to the surface again.
As I'm going down deeper and deeper into the lake,
it's getting really, very very cold. This is June, and
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lakes in Michigan in June don't know about summer. And
I'm shivering and shaking, and I'm falling deeper and deeper,
and all of a sudden, I can feel the weeds
in my feet and now I can't see any more.
And then finally I hit the bottom of the lake
and I hit in the sitting position, and I say, oh,
this is great. Now I can just use my hands
to push me up. And as I'm pushing down, my
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hands now get stuck in the mud. And now I'm
there in terrible pain to death. And then I hear
this voice. Someone's talking to me in my head and
the voice is, Andy, you have to relax and let
go for just a minute. And I said, no, I can't.
I need one breath of air, that's all I need.
Then the voice says, to make no, Andy, you have
to relax. You have to stop. You have to let go.
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And then I said to the voice in my head, okay,
I'll let go, but do you promise to let me
continue to fight, and the light says yes, okay, we promise,
and then I let go. And the minute I formed
the word go in my head, I popped out of
my body, frozen, cold, shivering, shaking, and in a minute
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what I call a moment of no time, I'm now
in a tunnel and I'm looking around and I'm not cold,
I'm not freezing I'm in a body, but I don't
recognize the body. And I look around and I see down.
As I'm looking over to the left, I can see
down at the bottom of the lake, there's my body.
I'll say, well, that's strange because I couldn't see down it.
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But I see it, and I look away, and I
was not concerned, and I turned into the other direction
and I see the tunnel and at the end of
the light, the tunnel is a bright light. It's so bright.
I say to myself, you know, this thing should be
burning my retinas. This is the brightest thing I could
ever imagine. It's like a thousand suns all exploding at
the same time. And then I'm drawn. I'm pulled into
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the tunnel like by a gentle magnet. And I'm pulled
into the tunnel. And as I'm moving into the tunnel,
I can feel a breeze on my face. And then
at the next moment of no time, I'm now in
a giant sphere, in a ball the size of a
basketball coliseum. I'm hovering in the center of the ball,
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and next to me, I can't see it, but I
know it's there is the light, and the light and
I are talking now with my mouth because I don't
have a mouth, March. I don't have eyes, I don't
have ears, but I have things that allow me to
communicate and to see and to hear. And as I
look on the inside of the giant ball giant sphere,
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are countless, maybe hundreds of thousands of like little TV
sets or movie screens, and each one has a specific
action that I had taken in my life. As soon
as I would focus on one, I would immediately, almost magically,
be there. The difference is every time I relived one
of my life experiences, I relived it in such a
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fashion that I knew and understood what everyone was thinking
and how they were feeling about our interaction. And then
all of a sudden again and I'm mowing of no time.
I pop out of the sphere and I'm in the
tunnel now and I'm featuring very close to the light,
and the light is in front of me now, and
it's like a giant silhouette. There was no gender to it.
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It was just a way, but it was very loving
and war when it was pulling me. And as I
got close to the light, the light said three things
that I could understand, and the light said to me, Andy,
don't be afraid. Andy, I love you, and Andy, we
love you. And when the light said Andy, we love you,
in back of the light, there were billions of other
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lights just like me, holographic pieces of the light, and
they all said in one because Andy, welcome home. I
can tell you that is the best I've ever felt
as I was in existence. It was so wonderful to behold.
And at that point, when the billions of other pieces
of the light said Andy, welcome home, I was absorbed
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into the light. I didn't go into the light. I
was absorbed into the light. It was like if the
light was a large glass of water, and if Andy
was a peacefoon of sugar, and you put the sugar
in the water and spin it around, and then look
at it. Where's Andy? Everywhere? Where's the light? Everywhere? I
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became the light. I was not greater than the light.
I was not lesser than the light. I was a
holographic piece of the light. And I was ecstatic. My
whole body right now as I am speaking, is filled
with chills. I remembered as if it just happened ten
seconds ago, not sixty five years ago. That feeling has
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never left me, and it has been the thing that
has kept me going when I really felt that I
didn't belong coming back. So then the Light says, Andy,
let's go. Do you have any questions for me? And
my answer was no, I don't have any questions why
because when I was absorbed by the light, I knew
everything I did. I knew everything about everything. When I
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was in the light and we went around and to
travel through universes, it seemed like I was there for
maybe years. In Earth time, I was there for about
ten minutes, because it took ten or fifteen minutes for
somewhere to find my body bring me back up on Sure,
I didn't know any of that that was going on
because I wasn't there. The body was there, but I
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was in the light, and I'm having so much fun
in the life. It's funny. And we were talking and laughing,
and we were talking about were viewing my life. We
were laughing at Andy, you spent so much of your
time on all these planets being too serious. Life is
to be enjoyed. That's why you've come. Because in the light,
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there are no highs and loads, there are no fat
and thin there is no light in day. It's all
unconditional low that consumed you and absorbed you. And that
is the pinnacle of what it feels like to be
an entity. After that point in time, the light says
to me, Andy, it's time to go back, time to
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go back. No, no, no, I said, no, no, no,
I'm not going back. I'm sorry. The answer is no,
And the light says, for the second time, Andy, you're
going back, And I said, uh, excuse me, did you
hear what I said. I'm staying. I'm homeing. Why would
I ever want to go back? And the third time,
the light said to me, and you're going back. When
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I heard the k in back, I was stuffed back
into my body, which now was no longer in the
mud at the bottom of the lake, but was laying
on the sand of the beach. And during that entire process,
from the moment I drowned until the moment I was
still back into my body, I never lost one second
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of consciousness. I have no voige, no dark spots. No
I can't remember. I remember everything, every moment, every second
of that time. And now I'm in my body and
I start to cry. All my classmates are around me, though.
They're so glad that I am alive. I'm not that
happy about it, but they're so glad that I didn't
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die on senior Picnic day. And so I look around
and I say, why are you crying any It must
be pain? Yeah, yeah, it must be pain. So I said, well,
tell me what happened. What do you remember? And I said,
my first, great lie, I don't remember a damn thing.
It's a complete blank. Because I couldn't tell them about
the light. I didn't even know what was How am
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I going to explain that. I was brought up as
a Catholic, I went the confession every week. I was
very very religious in capital letters person. What I saw
and experiencing the light did not correlate or relate at
all to what I knew and what I was taught
on earth. So okay, that's it. I know that eventually
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i'll forget about this. So I started a journey to forget,
and I couldn't forget. I dream about it every night.
I felt like a stranger in a strange land. I
didn't belong here. I belong in the light. That's what
I can remember. That's where I want to go. That's
where I want to be. Well, it's been over sixty
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five years and I'm still here. What are you waiting for?
And that experience is with me twenty four to seven
all the time.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
Now.
Speaker 5 (10:57):
I spent those twenty five years searching. I searched all
the major religions. I did meditations, I did all types
of yoga. I did everything I could to try to
see if I could understand it. It wasn't until I
read doctor Muhi's book that I said, ah, that's what
I had. Took me almost thirty years to figure out.
I had a near death experience. But I had it
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so early in time that phrase didn't even exist until
I read it in the book. At that point in time,
I'm saying, Okay, now I know what it is. It
still took me ten or fifteen years before I spoke
about it first time. I never told anyone for almost
forty years, and then I started talking about it. The
point is that that was such a wonderful, blissful thing,
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and the things that I remember from the light telling
me and he remember everything on the planet is an illusion.
It isn't real. Reality is in the light when you're
on Earth. It's like being in a Broadway play and
there are eight billion actors and everybody doing their part.
But that's not reality. And so as a stranger in
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a strange land, I'm saying, that has really been the
most significant thing I could have ever experienced of earth dying,
because there is no death earth dying, going into the
light and coming back, and even through all the years
of trial and struggle and trying to understand, in the
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back of my mind, in the back of my memory,
at the back of forever will be my near death experience.
Speaker 4 (12:31):
That was Andy Petro, and he was referencing doctor Moody,
who first coined the phrase near death experience in his
book Life After Life in nineteen seventy five. We'll be
back after the break with our next near death experience.
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Speaker 4 (14:12):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain,
and we are exploring life is a stage, this journey
through near death experiences. Next we'll hear from Rich Kelly,
who had a very different near death experience, also being
a teenager, also while swimming. He comes back with a
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very profound feeling about the nature of reality.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
I died when I was fifteen years old. I drown
out in the ocean. I've got this wave, wall of
water coming down over the top of my head and
falling in front of me. It hadn't broken yet, so
it didn't make any noise. I didn't have a chance
to catch a breath of air, hold my breath, nothing.
Just suddenly found myself underwater, opened my eyes and saw
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nothing but and swirling everywhere. It was as if things
went into slow motion and literally relived my life at
that point, only fifteen years of it, but relived the
whole thing. That's how much time slowed down. I went
down for the last time, and I knew it was
I just didn't have the energy. There was no energy
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left in me to fight it. And at that point,
this incredible, profound sense of peace overcame me somehow. I
had this sense that I was going to be okay,
no harm was going to come to me, distinctly, a
feeling that I was loved, which begged the question by
whom at that point in my life, I was a
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profound dignostic. I just couldn't tell you if there was
a God or not. I, as far as I was concerned,
I didn't have enough information. So it wasn't like I
carried with me this belief in God, which makes it
all the more interesting that I had this sense of
profound peace and the feeling of being loved, because it
begged the question by whom I knew I was leaving
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the earth. And just as if I were to say
to you, picture yourself on a lake, you would draw
a mental image in your mind of being on a lake.
You're not physically there, you don't see it, but we
use words and then we draw pictures in our minds. Well,
just like that, I pictured myself leaving the Earth, and
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I pictured myself out in space looking at the Earth
from not a considerable distance, but you know, there's the
Earth right in front of me. And what was so
strange about looking at the Earth like that was that
at that moment, you could have asked me any given
moment in my life, because I just relived it. But
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you could have asked me any given moment in any
person's life on that planet, and I could have told you.
All of that information was right there, it was available.
And what kept going through my mind at this point was, oh,
of course I was, if you will, remembering what I
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had forgotten very intentionally in order to be on this planet,
which is what we all do. In point of fact,
I don't think that this planet exists. It's a figment
of our imagination, and we have a very good imagination.
We're incredibly creative beings. The analogy I make it because
I think it works so well. It's like when you're
sitting in a chair reading a book that's a really
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good book that you're really involved in. Somebody could walk
in the room and talk to you, and you don't
know they're there. Your focus of attention is on the
story in the book, and you can get so preoccupied
with that you lose track of everything around you. You
just tune all that out and you focus on one thing. Similarly,
you know everything about what your life's going to be
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like here from beginning to end. You knew it before
where you got here, and you will know it again
when you leave here. But while you're here, you're focused
on it, and you're focused on each given moment in it,
And when you leave here, it all comes rushing back
and you say, of course, yes that. And it's also simple,
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what is your life like when you're not here? At
that moment, I no longer had any awareness of any
of my senses. I didn't have a body, I didn't
see anything. I could picture the Earth in my mind,
but I didn't see the earth. I didn't see blackness.
I saw nothing. There was no sight, there was no touch,
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there was no taste, there was no smell, there was
no feel. Didn't have any of those senses at all,
and yet my mind was functioning. So in my mind
I pictured turning away from the Earth and going out
into space. That's the way I pictured it in my mind,
because all of a sudden, all your senses are cut
off and you feel very disoriented. And at this point,
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the white light in the tunnel plays in. I sensed
that I was loved. I sensed that I would be fine.
Where is that coming from? And how do I go
to that? Well, initially, that's a very small thing, if
you will, and yet as you try to turn your
focus on it, and I don't mean your visual focus,
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but you focus your mind on that and wanting to
go there, it becomes bigger. And so it's as if
it is a little ray of light off in the
distance with dark all around it, which could easily be
described as a tunnel. It somehow seems distant, although it
seems to be getting closer, because with all your other
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input cut off, you focus on it more. It's the
only thing you have left to focus upon. And so
you move through the tunnel and towards the light. And
I won't say that you're greeted there by some people
who walk up and how you doing, fred and shake
your hand. No, there's no bodies there. There can be.
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You can picture them that way You pictured them the air,
and you can picture them there if you want to.
This gets really confusing because we are creating our reality
here on this planet, every last bit of it. We're
creating it in our mind, and science is starting to
bear this out. If you've seen the movie What the Bleep,
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the quantum physicists will tell you look at water and
you change its molecular structure, You're creating your reality here.
If I was going to try to describe what I
believe we are at our source, what we are like.
We are extremely creative beings. We can sit and do
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absolutely nothing and be as little as possible if we
want to, but it just doesn't seem to be in
our nature. We like to create things. And if you
made the analogy that your life was like a movie
that you made where you picked all of the characters
and the actors to play in your movie, and you
wrote the script out and said, this is what I
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want to have happen and how I want it to be,
that would be a very good analogy. And that's where
it gets really interesting because from this perspective, we're very
much used to the idea of looking at things and
judging things. I like that, I don't like that, and
we of course assume that there is a universal good
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and bad out there. I agree there's a universal good
and bad out there. But here's the strange twist to
it is that the universal part of it is the
fact that good is what you like and bad is
what you don't like, and it's different for everybody. And
that's where life gets really strange because people then say, well,
but there's no universal good or evil. No, there isn't.
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Well what about good and bad? There aren't any. That
sounds kind of harsh and really twisted from what most
people think, because we're all pretty much brought up to
believe that there are good things and bad things in life. Well,
that's true from any given perspective, but not universally. If
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this is all a stage play and none of it's real,
none of it truly exists except in our minds, and
we are all co authoring each other's plays as well
as our own, and getting together and putting this play together,
then what happens here is all an experiment in what
it's like to focus on a given set of circumstances
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of our own making. And it's okay, doesn't make any
difference how it turns out, doesn't make any difference what
you do. You came here to experience those things. Well.
It has the distinct disadvantage that you don't get to
blame everything that's gone wrong in your life on God
or the devil, or who whoever it is you want
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to try to put in that little slot, if in
point of fact, you're the author of it all and
that you agreed to it all long before you came here.
It has the distinct advantage that you can never be
a victim unless you chose to be one, and even
then you aren't truly a victim. You're experiencing what it
feels like to be one, but you aren't. This has
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got a real distinct advantage to it, if you think
about it, because you have nothing to fear, which is
a lot better way to live your life than running
around scared all the time. That you could become a victim.
There are things out there that could happen to you
that are beyond your control. The first place, what I
experience tells me that that's not the case. But just
as a practical matter, here we both hope that that's
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not the case, because if it is, you could be
a victim. And in my world, I can't be Which
world did you rather live in? As a practical matter,
I'd rather live in my world. Now. These things were
obvious to me when I was there. No, I didn't
get mad at the pearly gates. No I wasn't in heaven.
No I wasn't in hell. No I wasn't in purgatory.
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I was in a wonderful place. I felt completely loved.
I was in touch with a vast array of other beings.
I was part of it, they were part of me.
We're all one. If I was going to try to
address the question of whether or not there is a God,
I would say to you that if there is a god,
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first off, what you're doing in your playtime on this playground,
he doesn't care about anymore than your mom worries about
what it is you're doing on a playground. If you're
simply out there playing a game of ball and nobody's
getting hurt, and there's no problems. She didn't care about
every little detail, And it doesn't make any difference whether
you hit the ball directly into center field or off
in the left field, doesn't matter. And so I'm on
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the other side, and I'm in this sea of beings,
and all of a sudden, I felt somebody grab my arm,
which at this point threw me because I didn't have
an arm anymore. And I just kind of got used
to the idea that I didn't and I felt my
body get tug which I didn't have at least I
didn't a moment ago. And the very first thing that
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I saw right after I felt that was my eyes open,
looking at the beach and I'm in a wave and
being pushed towards the beach, and no one's got a
hold of me, and I started swimming, and when I
got to the beach, I was just totally spent, laid
there in a heap for I don't know how long,
probably fifteen twenty minutes. And I've had many people ask me, so,
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who pulled you out? I don't know. Within me, it
doesn't matter, It makes no difference. It was my time
to go, and then no, it isn't your time to go,
it's your time to go back. Okay, fine, I can
tell you I've never looked at life the same again.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Quite profound words. You'll be interested to know that. Rich
Kelly went on to becoming an actor and a psychic
in his career. We'll go to the break and we'll
be back with two more near death experiences. You're listening
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Are you ready for another near death experience? We have
Aaron Green a forty eight year old man, but he
tells the story of what happened when he was a
six year old boy. Now, from the hundreds of people
that I've spoken to who have had near death experiences,
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I would say ninety nine percent of them remember them
as if they were just yesterday or just ten minutes ago.
Aaron is no different. In fact, the way he tells
the story sounds like a six year old boy. Here's
Aaron Green.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
One afternoon, I was playing with some friends in a
neighbor's backyard and I developed a breathing problem, and no
matter what I did, I couldn't get a good breath.
I just couldn't breathe. Right as I was walking away
from my friend, I was trying to go home to
try to get help because I couldn't breathe. I'm not
sure what happened, but my consciousness, or my soul, whatever
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it is that I really am, it came out of
my body and I watched as my body fell to
the ground, and I was just kind of floating there,
looking at my body on the ground and looking at
my friends. Very quickly, I had a life review, like
my life flashed in front of me complete detail those
six years as a kid. And what really stood out
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was that not only did I re experience everything I
had been through and relived my life, but I could
like literally feel my parents' emotions and feelings and what
they had been through dealing with me. It wasn't just
that I relived my life, but I like experienced the
life of the people I had been in contact with.
When that was over, I was still just floating there
and I noticed a light in the distance, and I
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knew it was really important, but I didn't understand why
or what it was. I just continued to float there.
As I did, I started to remember things that I
had experienced as a soul. One thing that really stood
out was that I relived an experience of how I
came into being as a soul, kind of like a
newborn soul, and I was inexperienced and ignorant, but otherwise
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pretty happy. I was asked if I wanted to see
the face of God, and I agreed, and I was
shown a huge sun like entity, and there was millions
and millions of millions of faces all kind of merged
with God, and each face was a soul kind of
like me. They maintained their own individuality, but they were
also merged with God and part of God. God explained
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to me that I was a new soul being created,
and that God had a wonderful existence for all of us,
and that God was loving and kind and compassionate and
honest and caring, gentle, and very kind to me, and
that in order for me to enjoy the experience that
God had in store for me, I needed to also
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freely choose those same kind of characteristics that God had.
I needed to freely choose to be loving and kind
and compassionate and honest, and that the God had an
experience prepared for me and for all these other souls,
and that it would help us grow and to become
the kind of souls we need it to be, so
that we could appreciate the kind of existence that God
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had in store for us. This was going to be
very very short, It was going to be very difficult,
and when we got through this process, we would be
free to enjoy God's creation and to really enjoy our existence,
and we could get all the bad stuff out of
the way very quickly. I agreed with the plan, and
I was shown during my experience that I chose this
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life that I chose this body. I was shown that
I could have picked like anybody out there, and I
picked the parents that I was going to be born into.
I picked the body. I wanted to be really intelligent,
but there was downsides. If I had been really intelligent,
I would have been kind of arrogant and I wouldn't
have been as nice of a person. I wanted to
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be like a really good looking person, but I was
shown that if I had been like a really really
good looking person, that would have changed the way I
lived my life and it wouldn't have been as good
for me in my development. So I chose a more
average looking body. And I was shown that a lot
of events in my life they were like planned out
ahead of time, and certain events that were going to
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happen to be For example, I got my nose broken
when I was a teenager. I got hit me and
broke my nose, and I was shown like a brief
clip from a previous life. I was shown that I
had gotten in the fight and I had hurt another person.
I had beat them up pretty bad, and it's kind
of like this life, I was going to have my
nose broken as a result of something I had done
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in the previous life where I had hurt somebody, and
I saw that I was going to break my shoulder
and dislocate my shoulder. I was going to have some
arm problems. And I saw that some of the relationships
that I would have, like some of that stuff was
planned out ahead of time, and like different souls were
making agreements about the role that they would play in
each other's life, and some of that was planned out.
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And I saw souls preparing for the life, and some
of them requested challenges and difficulties, and the reason they
wanted these challenges and difficulties was because it would help
them to grow and to become a stronger, wiser soul,
and so that they would be able to progress further.
I was shown that we're all progressing a little bit,
and the difficulties we face and overcome, they like help
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us grow as a soul. And that was all perfectly
clear to me. And I was shown that different souls
are at different levels, and after life is over, some
souls are going to be pretty happy and some souls
are going to be kind of unhappy. I was also
shown that the souls that are unhappy after life. They're
not stuck. They can continue to progress and move on,
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like no soul is ever stuck in one state forever.
But all of us have opportunities to grow and to
progress and become better. But eventually all of us are
going to leave this cycle and be done with this place,
and we'll be able to go to a much happier
form of existence. But all this was shown to me
very clearly during my experience. I'd floated there next to
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my body for a while, an angel or a being
of light came to me and told me that I
wasn't supposed to leave my body and I needed to
go back. I quickly went back to my body and
I stood up and went home. That was back when
I was six years old, and here I am forty
eight years old, and I'm just trying to explain my
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experience to people that I saw for myself that we
all exist independently of these bodies, and we're going to
continue to exist after this life. What was really clear
from my experience was that we need to try to
be good to each other, you know, just try to
be kind and compassionate and loving and helpful to other people.
And if we do that we help ourselves progress spiritually
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towards becoming the kind of souls that we're supposed to be,
and we help other people as they do the same.
It was very obvious that we're more than just these
bodies that we all exist as the eternal beings. Like
this physical body restrains us or kind of like holds
us down. And when we're done with these bodies, we're
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more free and we're more intelligent and we can do
what we want to a lot more. But this body,
this life, it's a big opportunity to grow spiritually and
to become a better, more evolved soul. And the other
thing that was really important was just, you know, it's
really simple. We just need to be good to other people.
We need to be kind and compassionate and honest and
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caring and try to help other people if we can.
And that is really important that we just try to
be good to other people. I saw other souls, and
it looked like souls were at different levels, Like some
souls were very simple and some souls were very advanced.
The level of progress that each soul was at was
completely dependent on their own efforts and their own own experiences,
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and they needed to grow through their own actions and learning.
There wasn't a shortcut. And God was beautiful and just
extremely loving and kind and very much cared about me
and all of us very much. It was just wonderful
to be with God. With God, there was no hate
or judgment or meanness or anything like that. It was
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all positive and good. Had interactions with God and with
other souls and with I guess they were angels and
also guides, you know, Gouids helped the plan this life.
They helped me prepare for what I was going to
be going through. Why do we come here to this
difficult planet with it where there's so many difficulties. The
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reason is because we start out very simply. We're simple
souls when we're first created with no experience, and we
need to come to a place like Earth so we
can gain experience and wisdom, and doing so, we're able
to gain education and understanding. And by going through something
difficult and witnessing all these negative things that we see
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on Earth, it grows us spiritually and helps us to
understand that murder is bad and love is good, hatred
is bad, and kindness is good. You know. It helps
us to identify what's good and what's bad because we
can see it and we have that experience that then
helps us to grow and understand at a deeper level.
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And without the experience like we get on Earth, we
couldn't really understand it so easily. Our souls are like
eternal entities. We exist in like a timeless state, and
to go through life, which I know feels very long,
but from a spiritual perspective, it's very short. It's kind
of like ripping off a band aid really fast. We
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can get the difficult parts of our existence over with
very quickly, and then we can go on to enjoy
what's in store for us. If we start to make
better choices of love, kindness, compassion, honesty, then we're going
to get the benefits of those choices and we'll experience
a much better planet. And so it's kind of up
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to each of us to choose more positive things and
we can help build a better planet for ourselves and
for others. To me, life is like a kindergarten for souls,
or a preschool or a boot camp. It's like an
education for souls, and by coming here we learn a lot.
We learn very quickly to be good to others and
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not to hurt others, and to me, that's the purpose
of this life is to educate us and to help
us to become higher level, happier souls in the end.
I see life kind of like if you see a
person go to the gym to lifting heavy weights, it's
not because they're a bad person. It's because they want
to get really strong and they want to grow their
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muscles the most well. I see it as the same
way for people in life. Those that are going through
really difficult experiences, they're going to get the most spiritual
growth out of their experiences. Yeah, it's difficult, but they're
going to gain the most muscles. I know it's difficult
and frustrating to see good people go through bad things,
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but there's a flip side to that where they're going
to get a lot of spiritual benefit and someday they're
going to appreciate those struggles because it has allowed them
spiritually to grow in a way that people with easier
lives and be able to grow. A lot of people
are only focused on what they can do for themselves
or how much money that they can get. But I'm
thinking more about how can I grow myself spiritually and
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so I guess my whole worldview and my approach to
life is now a little bit different. I'm more focused
on just trying to live a good life, just trying
to be a good person, and I guess less focused
on material stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That's some really good advice from a man who had
this experience when he was six years old. Wow. After
the break, you'll hear one more story from a paramedic
who had his near death experience.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and this is life is a stage four gentlemen telling
their near death experiences. And you may wonder why near
death experiences are so different for different people. Well, currently
there's over eight billion people on planet Earth and if
you were to ask any one of them what life
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is like, each one of us would tell a different version.
I think it's an intelligent universe and there's different experiences
that we have. Some say that there's a silver cord
that ties us between this life and the next, and
when we fully are dead, that chord is broken, and
near death experiences people come back. So sometimes our beliefs,
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our thoughts, our feelings could be tied in with it.
Let's now meet Adam Tap nineteen years a paramedic.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
Hi, my name is Adam Tap and I had a
new death experience for Every twenty eighth twenty eighteen where
I was electrocuted to debt and I was dead for
around eleven and a half mins before being resuscitated. And
this is my story. I've been in paramedic for twenty
years now, and I do a lot of woodworking, which
I find cathartic and emotional release to some extent. And
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I was doing sort of a technique on wood etching
called the Leechtenberg device, where you take a microwave transformer
and basically strip every possible safety feature from it and
hook it up to involve moder and ten both things
see and it basically turns it into twelve thousand bolts DC,
and this highly dangerous machine basically atches these interesting petterns.
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I was with a good friend of mine. We had
had a beer, and we were sitting by my shop
and we were actually this piece of wood, and conveniently enough,
he had taken a high bolt of safety course about
two weeks before, which is profamily convenience for a number
of different reasons. And I remember I was talking to
them and I was moving the electrons one by one
and it just barked into my hand and it was
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just a snap from reality.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
It was almost overwhelming.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
It was like this intense level of absolute pain, like
every single cell in my body was being pulled into pieces,
and it was overwhelming to a point. Why didn't understand
all what's happened? It was almost as if everything got
shut down. Everything in my vision was in these vertical cylinders,
this iridescent green that went up and down forever. I
remember trying to focus a thought amongst the energy, and
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I think it was like I'd being electrocuted. And then
I think I thought I'm falling, and I felt like
I was falling for ages. And then it was just
like waking up from a nap someplace that I'd always been.
It was this perfect in key blackness. It was almost
like deep space where it was like there's lights in
ad distance, like these twinkling stars to something extent, but
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it was just this perfect blackness. It was like I
was seeing spherically from a single point outwards, like I
had just become a single point of awareness. And I
wasn't at him, I wasn't dead, I wasn't anything. I
was just perfect, like absolute contentment, and I was just
in this space. It was just simply existing and awareness.
And then I felt sort of this frequency start washing
over me, and it was like what more. It was
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like this fractal patterns and it was like gasoline on water,
this rainbow effect that this aridescent to some extent, and
it was just thoughts and cheerlings and emotions, and I
felt myself sort of being holding to peasants and deposited
into everything. It was like basically becoming fabric of the universe.
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And it was absolutely perfect, like there was no fear
and it was nothing. This was just the natural progression
of what every single one of us is going to do.
Just back to the source, back to this into consciousness
or hypid complexity. All of a sudden, I started being
electrocuted again. And at the time I didn't understand what
was happening, but in hindsight, it was me being defabriilited.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
That was defribrilitied twice.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
I was in a ventricle fimbrillation arhythmia, which is basically
the heart spas I mean, And so I was defibrillated
and the tribrillation takes a bunch live seconds, but this
was sort of like minutes, if I could even say that,
of being electrocuted again.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
And then all of a sudden it stopped.
Speaker 9 (45:23):
And now I'm aware that I had him that I'm dead,
I should electrocute it. And now I'm in this boy,
I'm just being and it was a really long time,
and I was just there, maybe coming to terms with
who in what I was and myself and my place
in the universe. And then I started being electrocuted again,
which again was the second fibrillation, and I remember myself
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being pulled perhaps out for some variation of that, and
then I say, maybe at one point acknowledged the smell
of bird flash, which would have been my hands. My
finger was burned off third degree burns all over in
his hand, and I was in a coma for eight hours,
which was fine for me, but problematic for everyone else
who thought I was brave that And you know, I
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remember waking up in the ICU and I was innovated
to into my lounges and I had it in our
auxious and Engle driller to my shoulderbone. Like my first
thought was how long has it been? I remember like
sort of being able to write something down by Andrael
bandage and like eight hours.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Or something, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 9 (46:23):
Like if someone had told me it had been five
years or a decade, I would have been completely on
point with that. But what was unique about the experience
since after I was excavated and hugs.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
For everyone and whatnot.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
I remember like looking at myself and I could smell
myself and not body odor in the sense of need
to put yodoran on, but my natural pheromoneal smell that
we all have because the primates, we just go to
great lengths to hide it. But I was so hyper
aware of my smell and the texture of my skin,
and I felt so deeply that I just gote downgraded
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from this crazy supercomputer to this commado or two shows
and this pixelated screen, and that stuck with me for
a long time, Like it was months of just feeling
this way, and I remember saying to my wife, like,
this isn't real, but this isn't real. And eventually it
just came back to the acceptance of being my body,
of being in this space. But you know, I was
left with this overwhelming sense that this is just the stage.
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This is simply an evolution of consciousness. This is simply
transient why we exist right now. And there wasn't any
antimorship figures or people on roads. It was just simply
going back to the source of everything, which is this
interesting consciousness that permeates everything. Simply the space between subatomic
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articles is consciousness. I didn't want to read anything about
other people's near death experiences, but it wanted to change
my interpretation of lot it happened to me, But you know,
I had the traditional phonophobia where I was right sine
glasses at all times a day, like it was even
the light inside of house, which almost be blinded to me.
And anotherly interesting thing too, is that the burns on
my pants actually accelerated healing. I was told I would
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need skin brabs, and in a very short period of
time everything wevascularized and started healing, which was interesting that
I can't necessarily state that that's a consistency amongst people.
But it was very much this process of getting used
to what I have to call the munty suit now,
because it very much is. It's very it's a limitating
filter in which I currently existed at the limitations of
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my biology. But at the same time it's so deeply
beautiful that I can simply just experience emotions and games.
The one thing that I took from all of this
was in that place when I was devoid of a body,
I was very, very highly aware of the amount of anxiety,
the amount of weird emotions that rich Sish through us
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on any specific moment, the biological mechanisms, the hormones that
make us do things. It was a state of absolute
tread cluinality. Again, it was one of those things when
I was back in my body, just feeling these emotions
come up and not necessarily knowing what the dealish them,
because it seemed that I just completely disconnected from everything
that is this biological mechanism data, and now it's back
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into this foold. I started doing psychedelics subsequently afterwards, and
I feel that the very nature of death experiences is
so integrally related to these psychonlic compounds and die metical
trip to meaning in our bodies, and our brain is
responsible for dreaming and depth. And I feel that the
experience itself has made me so deeply spiritual, you know.
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I think I was superficially spiritual before, in a sense
that we just privily use the word, you know, without
necessarily understanding the deeper meaning behind it.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
But it's almost like experiencing.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Itching consciousness and becoming part of it and then coming
back to this and still having that awareness, the awareness
that we're just part of something that is so profoundly complicated,
so infinitely perfect. So I think something to take away
from all of this, or something that I noticed has
changed in being my personality is my ability to simply
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appreciate a moment as opposed to applying reading to everything
or plans or language, is and simply able to be
in a space and appreciate what's going on. I noticed
that with my daughter in law, just simply being in
a space and enjoining every moment of it. One thing
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I also want to mention in this is the similarities
to psychedelic experiences and being dead. You know, one could
artically suggest that my death experience was just an indogenou
steinmfil trip to mean release, which is commonly referred to
as n NDMT and such court psycholic experiences have been death.
They've been versions of this. And I think that at
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the end of the day, the one thing that I
would say to someone if they asked me what I
took from this or the advice associated with it, is
that death is quite possibly the most natural thing that happens.
Being dead was easy, it was perfect, It was beautiful.
You know, It's being alive it's difficult and hard. I
think that death in itself is just simply a transition.
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It's becoming the fabric of the universe. It's being perfect.
Wanted could argue that we're all perfect already, but we
just refuse to acknowledge that. And being death was just
absolute perfection. And I think that the common fear that
we all have is our mortality, and it's understandable, it's
genetically motivated. You know, if we didn't have a share
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of death, we won't be a species that we are today.
But again, death just was simply perfection. It was become
by everything and it was perfect. And I think that
it's made me spiritual innocence now. I think before I
was spiritual but superficially, whereas now it seems that spirituality
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has taken on a very significant place in me where
I viscerally know what we all are and where we're
all going. And that does onlyvate a lot of the
share that we all exist with on a day to
day basis. And yeah, I guess to summarize everything was
being dead was a state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Being dead the state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Adam is not only a paramedic, but after this experience,
he started his own podcast called Tapped Into psychedelics. If
you're a fan of near death experiences like I am,
I can recommend some great YouTube channels Life and Beyond
the Other Side ND, Life After Life ND and visit
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our friends at ians dot org you can read near
death experiences. They also have a yearly end of summer
conference with over one hundred speakers, and also come visit
me we Don't Die dot com. Lots of great things
always going on, including our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration.
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Life is a stage, my friend, what role are you
going to play? I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening
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Hi.
Speaker 4 (00:39):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, we'll discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical debt, and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlifeilliam Shakespeare said
(01:01):
in his play As You Like It, all the world's
a stage, and all the men and women merely players.
They have their exits and their entrances, and one man
in his lifetime plays many parts. Today we're going to
be talking about our life being the stage for our souls.
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I have four very different stories of four men who
each had a near death experience. Let's start with Andy,
who had his experience when he was just a teenager
but remembers it vividly now at the age of eighty four.
Speaker 5 (01:41):
My name is Andy Petro, eighty four. It was a
few days before graduation from high school. We went as
a class to a lake outside of Detroit. I'm swimming
out to the raft to where my friends are, and
about halfway there, I get really bad cramps and I
can't kick anymore, and then I'm starting to I go
down one time. I'm struggling to get up to the top.
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I reach the top, I look over. I can see
my friends on the platform. I'm waving to them, but
I can't stay above the water. They're waving back, thinking
I'm playing a game. And then I'm sinking down. From
that point on, I never came to the surface again.
As I'm going down deeper and deeper into the lake,
it's getting really, very very cold. This is June, and
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lakes in Michigan in June don't know about summer. And
I'm shivering and shaking, and I'm falling deeper and deeper,
and all of a sudden, I can feel the weeds
in my feet and now I can't see any more.
And then finally I hit the bottom of the lake
and I hit in the sitting position, and I say, oh,
this is great. Now I can just use my hands
to push me up. And as I'm pushing down, my
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hands now get stuck in the mud. And now I'm
there in terrible pain to death. And then I hear
this voice. Someone's talking to me in my head and
the voice is, Andy, you have to relax and let
go for just a minute. And I said, no, I can't.
I need one breath of air, that's all I need.
Then the voice says, to make no, Andy, you have
to relax. You have to stop. You have to let go.
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And then I said to the voice in my head, okay,
I'll let go, but do you promise to let me
continue to fight, and the light says yes, okay, we promise,
and then I let go. And the minute I formed
the word go in my head, I popped out of
my body, frozen, cold, shivering, shaking, and in a minute
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what I call a moment of no time, I'm now
in a tunnel and I'm looking around and I'm not cold,
I'm not freezing I'm in a body, but I don't
recognize the body. And I look around and I see down.
As I'm looking over to the left, I can see
down at the bottom of the lake, there's my body.
I'll say, well, that's strange because I couldn't see down it.
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But I see it, and I look away, and I
was not concerned, and I turned into the other direction
and I see the tunnel and at the end of
the light, the tunnel is a bright light. It's so bright.
I say to myself, you know, this thing should be
burning my retinas. This is the brightest thing I could
ever imagine. It's like a thousand suns all exploding at
the same time. And then I'm drawn. I'm pulled into
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the tunnel like by a gentle magnet. And I'm pulled
into the tunnel. And as I'm moving into the tunnel,
I can feel a breeze on my face. And then
at the next moment of no time, I'm now in
a giant sphere, in a ball the size of a
basketball coliseum. I'm hovering in the center of the ball,
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and next to me, I can't see it, but I
know it's there is the light, and the light and
I are talking now with my mouth because I don't
have a mouth, March. I don't have eyes, I don't
have ears, but I have things that allow me to
communicate and to see and to hear. And as I
look on the inside of the giant ball giant sphere,
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are countless, maybe hundreds of thousands of like little TV
sets or movie screens, and each one has a specific
action that I had taken in my life. As soon
as I would focus on one, I would immediately, almost magically,
be there. The difference is every time I relived one
of my life experiences, I relived it in such a
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fashion that I knew and understood what everyone was thinking
and how they were feeling about our interaction. And then
all of a sudden again and I'm mowing of no time.
I pop out of the sphere and I'm in the
tunnel now and I'm featuring very close to the light,
and the light is in front of me now, and
it's like a giant silhouette. There was no gender to it.
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It was just a way, but it was very loving
and war when it was pulling me. And as I
got close to the light, the light said three things
that I could understand, and the light said to me, Andy,
don't be afraid. Andy, I love you, and Andy, we
love you. And when the light said Andy, we love you,
in back of the light, there were billions of other
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lights just like me, holographic pieces of the light, and
they all said in one because Andy, welcome home. I
can tell you that is the best I've ever felt
as I was in existence. It was so wonderful to behold.
And at that point, when the billions of other pieces
of the light said Andy, welcome home, I was absorbed
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into the light. I didn't go into the light. I
was absorbed into the light. It was like if the
light was a large glass of water, and if Andy
was a peacefoon of sugar, and you put the sugar
in the water and spin it around, and then look
at it. Where's Andy? Everywhere? Where's the light? Everywhere? I
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became the light. I was not greater than the light.
I was not lesser than the light. I was a
holographic piece of the light. And I was ecstatic. My
whole body right now as I am speaking, is filled
with chills. I remembered as if it just happened ten
seconds ago, not sixty five years ago. That feeling has
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never left me, and it has been the thing that
has kept me going when I really felt that I
didn't belong coming back. So then the Light says, Andy,
let's go. Do you have any questions for me? And
my answer was no, I don't have any questions why
because when I was absorbed by the light, I knew
everything I did. I knew everything about everything. When I
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was in the light and we went around and to
travel through universes, it seemed like I was there for
maybe years. In Earth time, I was there for about
ten minutes, because it took ten or fifteen minutes for
somewhere to find my body bring me back up on Sure,
I didn't know any of that that was going on
because I wasn't there. The body was there, but I
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was in the light, and I'm having so much fun
in the life. It's funny. And we were talking and laughing,
and we were talking about were viewing my life. We
were laughing at Andy, you spent so much of your
time on all these planets being too serious. Life is
to be enjoyed. That's why you've come. Because in the light,
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there are no highs and loads, there are no fat
and thin there is no light in day. It's all
unconditional low that consumed you and absorbed you. And that
is the pinnacle of what it feels like to be
an entity. After that point in time, the light says
to me, Andy, it's time to go back, time to
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go back. No, no, no, I said, no, no, no,
I'm not going back. I'm sorry. The answer is no,
And the light says, for the second time, Andy, you're
going back, And I said, uh, excuse me, did you
hear what I said. I'm staying. I'm homeing. Why would
I ever want to go back? And the third time,
the light said to me, and you're going back. When
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I heard the k in back, I was stuffed back
into my body, which now was no longer in the
mud at the bottom of the lake, but was laying
on the sand of the beach. And during that entire process,
from the moment I drowned until the moment I was
still back into my body, I never lost one second
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of consciousness. I have no voige, no dark spots. No
I can't remember. I remember everything, every moment, every second
of that time. And now I'm in my body and
I start to cry. All my classmates are around me, though.
They're so glad that I am alive. I'm not that
happy about it, but they're so glad that I didn't
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die on senior Picnic day. And so I look around
and I say, why are you crying any It must
be pain? Yeah, yeah, it must be pain. So I said, well,
tell me what happened. What do you remember? And I said,
my first, great lie, I don't remember a damn thing.
It's a complete blank. Because I couldn't tell them about
the light. I didn't even know what was How am
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I going to explain that. I was brought up as
a Catholic, I went the confession every week. I was
very very religious in capital letters person. What I saw
and experiencing the light did not correlate or relate at
all to what I knew and what I was taught
on earth. So okay, that's it. I know that eventually
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i'll forget about this. So I started a journey to forget,
and I couldn't forget. I dream about it every night.
I felt like a stranger in a strange land. I
didn't belong here. I belong in the light. That's what
I can remember. That's where I want to go. That's
where I want to be. Well, it's been over sixty
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five years and I'm still here. What are you waiting for?
And that experience is with me twenty four to seven
all the time.
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Now.
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I spent those twenty five years searching. I searched all
the major religions. I did meditations, I did all types
of yoga. I did everything I could to try to
see if I could understand it. It wasn't until I
read doctor Muhi's book that I said, ah, that's what
I had. Took me almost thirty years to figure out.
I had a near death experience. But I had it
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so early in time that phrase didn't even exist until
I read it in the book. At that point in time,
I'm saying, Okay, now I know what it is. It
still took me ten or fifteen years before I spoke
about it first time. I never told anyone for almost
forty years, and then I started talking about it. The
point is that that was such a wonderful, blissful thing,
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and the things that I remember from the light telling
me and he remember everything on the planet is an illusion.
It isn't real. Reality is in the light when you're
on Earth. It's like being in a Broadway play and
there are eight billion actors and everybody doing their part.
But that's not reality. And so as a stranger in
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a strange land, I'm saying, that has really been the
most significant thing I could have ever experienced of earth dying,
because there is no death earth dying, going into the
light and coming back, and even through all the years
of trial and struggle and trying to understand, in the
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back of my mind, in the back of my memory,
at the back of forever will be my near death experience.
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That was Andy Petro, and he was referencing doctor Moody,
who first coined the phrase near death experience in his
book Life After Life in nineteen seventy five. We'll be
back after the break with our next near death experience.
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Shades of the Afterlife with Sander Champlain.
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain,
and we are exploring life is a stage, this journey
through near death experiences. Next we'll hear from Rich Kelly,
who had a very different near death experience, also being
a teenager, also while swimming. He comes back with a
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very profound feeling about the nature of reality.
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I died when I was fifteen years old. I drown
out in the ocean. I've got this wave, wall of
water coming down over the top of my head and
falling in front of me. It hadn't broken yet, so
it didn't make any noise. I didn't have a chance
to catch a breath of air, hold my breath, nothing.
Just suddenly found myself underwater, opened my eyes and saw
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nothing but and swirling everywhere. It was as if things
went into slow motion and literally relived my life at
that point, only fifteen years of it, but relived the
whole thing. That's how much time slowed down. I went
down for the last time, and I knew it was
I just didn't have the energy. There was no energy
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left in me to fight it. And at that point,
this incredible, profound sense of peace overcame me somehow. I
had this sense that I was going to be okay,
no harm was going to come to me, distinctly, a
feeling that I was loved, which begged the question by
whom at that point in my life, I was a
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profound dignostic. I just couldn't tell you if there was
a God or not. I, as far as I was concerned,
I didn't have enough information. So it wasn't like I
carried with me this belief in God, which makes it
all the more interesting that I had this sense of
profound peace and the feeling of being loved, because it
begged the question by whom I knew I was leaving
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the earth. And just as if I were to say
to you, picture yourself on a lake, you would draw
a mental image in your mind of being on a lake.
You're not physically there, you don't see it, but we
use words and then we draw pictures in our minds. Well,
just like that, I pictured myself leaving the Earth, and
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I pictured myself out in space looking at the Earth
from not a considerable distance, but you know, there's the
Earth right in front of me. And what was so
strange about looking at the Earth like that was that
at that moment, you could have asked me any given
moment in my life, because I just relived it. But
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you could have asked me any given moment in any
person's life on that planet, and I could have told you.
All of that information was right there, it was available.
And what kept going through my mind at this point was, oh,
of course I was, if you will, remembering what I
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had forgotten very intentionally in order to be on this planet,
which is what we all do. In point of fact,
I don't think that this planet exists. It's a figment
of our imagination, and we have a very good imagination.
We're incredibly creative beings. The analogy I make it because
I think it works so well. It's like when you're
sitting in a chair reading a book that's a really
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good book that you're really involved in. Somebody could walk
in the room and talk to you, and you don't
know they're there. Your focus of attention is on the
story in the book, and you can get so preoccupied
with that you lose track of everything around you. You
just tune all that out and you focus on one thing. Similarly,
you know everything about what your life's going to be
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like here from beginning to end. You knew it before
where you got here, and you will know it again
when you leave here. But while you're here, you're focused
on it, and you're focused on each given moment in it,
And when you leave here, it all comes rushing back
and you say, of course, yes that. And it's also simple,
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what is your life like when you're not here? At
that moment, I no longer had any awareness of any
of my senses. I didn't have a body, I didn't
see anything. I could picture the Earth in my mind,
but I didn't see the earth. I didn't see blackness.
I saw nothing. There was no sight, there was no touch,
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there was no taste, there was no smell, there was
no feel. Didn't have any of those senses at all,
and yet my mind was functioning. So in my mind
I pictured turning away from the Earth and going out
into space. That's the way I pictured it in my mind,
because all of a sudden, all your senses are cut
off and you feel very disoriented. And at this point,
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the white light in the tunnel plays in. I sensed
that I was loved. I sensed that I would be fine.
Where is that coming from? And how do I go
to that? Well, initially, that's a very small thing, if
you will, and yet as you try to turn your
focus on it, and I don't mean your visual focus,
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but you focus your mind on that and wanting to
go there, it becomes bigger. And so it's as if
it is a little ray of light off in the
distance with dark all around it, which could easily be
described as a tunnel. It somehow seems distant, although it
seems to be getting closer, because with all your other
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input cut off, you focus on it more. It's the
only thing you have left to focus upon. And so
you move through the tunnel and towards the light. And
I won't say that you're greeted there by some people
who walk up and how you doing, fred and shake
your hand. No, there's no bodies there. There can be.
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You can picture them that way You pictured them the air,
and you can picture them there if you want to.
This gets really confusing because we are creating our reality
here on this planet, every last bit of it. We're
creating it in our mind, and science is starting to
bear this out. If you've seen the movie What the Bleep,
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the quantum physicists will tell you look at water and
you change its molecular structure, You're creating your reality here.
If I was going to try to describe what I
believe we are at our source, what we are like.
We are extremely creative beings. We can sit and do
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absolutely nothing and be as little as possible if we
want to, but it just doesn't seem to be in
our nature. We like to create things. And if you
made the analogy that your life was like a movie
that you made where you picked all of the characters
and the actors to play in your movie, and you
wrote the script out and said, this is what I
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want to have happen and how I want it to be,
that would be a very good analogy. And that's where
it gets really interesting because from this perspective, we're very
much used to the idea of looking at things and
judging things. I like that, I don't like that, and
we of course assume that there is a universal good
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and bad out there. I agree there's a universal good
and bad out there. But here's the strange twist to
it is that the universal part of it is the
fact that good is what you like and bad is
what you don't like, and it's different for everybody. And
that's where life gets really strange because people then say, well,
but there's no universal good or evil. No, there isn't.
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Well what about good and bad? There aren't any. That
sounds kind of harsh and really twisted from what most
people think, because we're all pretty much brought up to
believe that there are good things and bad things in life. Well,
that's true from any given perspective, but not universally. If
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this is all a stage play and none of it's real,
none of it truly exists except in our minds, and
we are all co authoring each other's plays as well
as our own, and getting together and putting this play together,
then what happens here is all an experiment in what
it's like to focus on a given set of circumstances
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of our own making. And it's okay, doesn't make any
difference how it turns out, doesn't make any difference what
you do. You came here to experience those things. Well.
It has the distinct disadvantage that you don't get to
blame everything that's gone wrong in your life on God
or the devil, or who whoever it is you want
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to try to put in that little slot, if in
point of fact, you're the author of it all and
that you agreed to it all long before you came here.
It has the distinct advantage that you can never be
a victim unless you chose to be one, and even
then you aren't truly a victim. You're experiencing what it
feels like to be one, but you aren't. This has
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got a real distinct advantage to it, if you think
about it, because you have nothing to fear, which is
a lot better way to live your life than running
around scared all the time. That you could become a victim.
There are things out there that could happen to you
that are beyond your control. The first place, what I
experience tells me that that's not the case. But just
as a practical matter, here we both hope that that's
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not the case, because if it is, you could be
a victim. And in my world, I can't be Which
world did you rather live in? As a practical matter,
I'd rather live in my world. Now. These things were
obvious to me when I was there. No, I didn't
get mad at the pearly gates. No I wasn't in heaven.
No I wasn't in hell. No I wasn't in purgatory.
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I was in a wonderful place. I felt completely loved.
I was in touch with a vast array of other beings.
I was part of it, they were part of me.
We're all one. If I was going to try to
address the question of whether or not there is a God,
I would say to you that if there is a god,
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first off, what you're doing in your playtime on this playground,
he doesn't care about anymore than your mom worries about
what it is you're doing on a playground. If you're
simply out there playing a game of ball and nobody's
getting hurt, and there's no problems. She didn't care about
every little detail, And it doesn't make any difference whether
you hit the ball directly into center field or off
in the left field, doesn't matter. And so I'm on
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the other side, and I'm in this sea of beings,
and all of a sudden, I felt somebody grab my arm,
which at this point threw me because I didn't have
an arm anymore. And I just kind of got used
to the idea that I didn't and I felt my
body get tug which I didn't have at least I
didn't a moment ago. And the very first thing that
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I saw right after I felt that was my eyes open,
looking at the beach and I'm in a wave and
being pushed towards the beach, and no one's got a
hold of me, and I started swimming, and when I
got to the beach, I was just totally spent, laid
there in a heap for I don't know how long,
probably fifteen twenty minutes. And I've had many people ask me, so,
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who pulled you out? I don't know. Within me, it
doesn't matter, It makes no difference. It was my time
to go, and then no, it isn't your time to go,
it's your time to go back. Okay, fine, I can
tell you I've never looked at life the same again.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Quite profound words. You'll be interested to know that. Rich
Kelly went on to becoming an actor and a psychic
in his career. We'll go to the break and we'll
be back with two more near death experiences. You're listening
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Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain.
Are you ready for another near death experience? We have
Aaron Green a forty eight year old man, but he
tells the story of what happened when he was a
six year old boy. Now, from the hundreds of people
that I've spoken to who have had near death experiences,
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I would say ninety nine percent of them remember them
as if they were just yesterday or just ten minutes ago.
Aaron is no different. In fact, the way he tells
the story sounds like a six year old boy. Here's
Aaron Green.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
One afternoon, I was playing with some friends in a
neighbor's backyard and I developed a breathing problem, and no
matter what I did, I couldn't get a good breath.
I just couldn't breathe. Right as I was walking away
from my friend, I was trying to go home to
try to get help because I couldn't breathe. I'm not
sure what happened, but my consciousness, or my soul, whatever
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it is that I really am, it came out of
my body and I watched as my body fell to
the ground, and I was just kind of floating there,
looking at my body on the ground and looking at
my friends. Very quickly, I had a life review, like
my life flashed in front of me complete detail those
six years as a kid. And what really stood out
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was that not only did I re experience everything I
had been through and relived my life, but I could
like literally feel my parents' emotions and feelings and what
they had been through dealing with me. It wasn't just
that I relived my life, but I like experienced the
life of the people I had been in contact with.
When that was over, I was still just floating there
and I noticed a light in the distance, and I
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knew it was really important, but I didn't understand why
or what it was. I just continued to float there.
As I did, I started to remember things that I
had experienced as a soul. One thing that really stood
out was that I relived an experience of how I
came into being as a soul, kind of like a
newborn soul, and I was inexperienced and ignorant, but otherwise
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pretty happy. I was asked if I wanted to see
the face of God, and I agreed, and I was
shown a huge sun like entity, and there was millions
and millions of millions of faces all kind of merged
with God, and each face was a soul kind of
like me. They maintained their own individuality, but they were
also merged with God and part of God. God explained
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to me that I was a new soul being created,
and that God had a wonderful existence for all of us,
and that God was loving and kind and compassionate and
honest and caring, gentle, and very kind to me, and
that in order for me to enjoy the experience that
God had in store for me, I needed to also
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freely choose those same kind of characteristics that God had.
I needed to freely choose to be loving and kind
and compassionate and honest, and that the God had an
experience prepared for me and for all these other souls,
and that it would help us grow and to become
the kind of souls we need it to be, so
that we could appreciate the kind of existence that God
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had in store for us. This was going to be
very very short, It was going to be very difficult,
and when we got through this process, we would be
free to enjoy God's creation and to really enjoy our existence,
and we could get all the bad stuff out of
the way very quickly. I agreed with the plan, and
I was shown during my experience that I chose this
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life that I chose this body. I was shown that
I could have picked like anybody out there, and I
picked the parents that I was going to be born into.
I picked the body. I wanted to be really intelligent,
but there was downsides. If I had been really intelligent,
I would have been kind of arrogant and I wouldn't
have been as nice of a person. I wanted to
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be like a really good looking person, but I was
shown that if I had been like a really really
good looking person, that would have changed the way I
lived my life and it wouldn't have been as good
for me in my development. So I chose a more
average looking body. And I was shown that a lot
of events in my life they were like planned out
ahead of time, and certain events that were going to
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happen to be For example, I got my nose broken
when I was a teenager. I got hit me and
broke my nose, and I was shown like a brief
clip from a previous life. I was shown that I
had gotten in the fight and I had hurt another person.
I had beat them up pretty bad, and it's kind
of like this life, I was going to have my
nose broken as a result of something I had done
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in the previous life where I had hurt somebody, and
I saw that I was going to break my shoulder
and dislocate my shoulder. I was going to have some
arm problems. And I saw that some of the relationships
that I would have, like some of that stuff was
planned out ahead of time, and like different souls were
making agreements about the role that they would play in
each other's life, and some of that was planned out.
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And I saw souls preparing for the life, and some
of them requested challenges and difficulties, and the reason they
wanted these challenges and difficulties was because it would help
them to grow and to become a stronger, wiser soul,
and so that they would be able to progress further.
I was shown that we're all progressing a little bit,
and the difficulties we face and overcome, they like help
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us grow as a soul. And that was all perfectly
clear to me. And I was shown that different souls
are at different levels, and after life is over, some
souls are going to be pretty happy and some souls
are going to be kind of unhappy. I was also
shown that the souls that are unhappy after life. They're
not stuck. They can continue to progress and move on,
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like no soul is ever stuck in one state forever.
But all of us have opportunities to grow and to
progress and become better. But eventually all of us are
going to leave this cycle and be done with this place,
and we'll be able to go to a much happier
form of existence. But all this was shown to me
very clearly during my experience. I'd floated there next to
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my body for a while, an angel or a being
of light came to me and told me that I
wasn't supposed to leave my body and I needed to
go back. I quickly went back to my body and
I stood up and went home. That was back when
I was six years old, and here I am forty
eight years old, and I'm just trying to explain my
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experience to people that I saw for myself that we
all exist independently of these bodies, and we're going to
continue to exist after this life. What was really clear
from my experience was that we need to try to
be good to each other, you know, just try to
be kind and compassionate and loving and helpful to other people.
And if we do that we help ourselves progress spiritually
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towards becoming the kind of souls that we're supposed to be,
and we help other people as they do the same.
It was very obvious that we're more than just these
bodies that we all exist as the eternal beings. Like
this physical body restrains us or kind of like holds
us down. And when we're done with these bodies, we're
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more free and we're more intelligent and we can do
what we want to a lot more. But this body,
this life, it's a big opportunity to grow spiritually and
to become a better, more evolved soul. And the other
thing that was really important was just, you know, it's
really simple. We just need to be good to other people.
We need to be kind and compassionate and honest and
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caring and try to help other people if we can.
And that is really important that we just try to
be good to other people. I saw other souls, and
it looked like souls were at different levels, Like some
souls were very simple and some souls were very advanced.
The level of progress that each soul was at was
completely dependent on their own efforts and their own own experiences,
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and they needed to grow through their own actions and learning.
There wasn't a shortcut. And God was beautiful and just
extremely loving and kind and very much cared about me
and all of us very much. It was just wonderful
to be with God. With God, there was no hate
or judgment or meanness or anything like that. It was
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all positive and good. Had interactions with God and with
other souls and with I guess they were angels and
also guides, you know, Gouids helped the plan this life.
They helped me prepare for what I was going to
be going through. Why do we come here to this
difficult planet with it where there's so many difficulties. The
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reason is because we start out very simply. We're simple
souls when we're first created with no experience, and we
need to come to a place like Earth so we
can gain experience and wisdom, and doing so, we're able
to gain education and understanding. And by going through something
difficult and witnessing all these negative things that we see
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on Earth, it grows us spiritually and helps us to
understand that murder is bad and love is good, hatred
is bad, and kindness is good. You know. It helps
us to identify what's good and what's bad because we
can see it and we have that experience that then
helps us to grow and understand at a deeper level.
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And without the experience like we get on Earth, we
couldn't really understand it so easily. Our souls are like
eternal entities. We exist in like a timeless state, and
to go through life, which I know feels very long,
but from a spiritual perspective, it's very short. It's kind
of like ripping off a band aid really fast. We
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can get the difficult parts of our existence over with
very quickly, and then we can go on to enjoy
what's in store for us. If we start to make
better choices of love, kindness, compassion, honesty, then we're going
to get the benefits of those choices and we'll experience
a much better planet. And so it's kind of up
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to each of us to choose more positive things and
we can help build a better planet for ourselves and
for others. To me, life is like a kindergarten for souls,
or a preschool or a boot camp. It's like an
education for souls, and by coming here we learn a lot.
We learn very quickly to be good to others and
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not to hurt others, and to me, that's the purpose
of this life is to educate us and to help
us to become higher level, happier souls in the end.
I see life kind of like if you see a
person go to the gym to lifting heavy weights, it's
not because they're a bad person. It's because they want
to get really strong and they want to grow their
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muscles the most well. I see it as the same
way for people in life. Those that are going through
really difficult experiences, they're going to get the most spiritual
growth out of their experiences. Yeah, it's difficult, but they're
going to gain the most muscles. I know it's difficult
and frustrating to see good people go through bad things,
(38:47):
but there's a flip side to that where they're going
to get a lot of spiritual benefit and someday they're
going to appreciate those struggles because it has allowed them
spiritually to grow in a way that people with easier
lives and be able to grow. A lot of people
are only focused on what they can do for themselves
or how much money that they can get. But I'm
thinking more about how can I grow myself spiritually and
(39:10):
so I guess my whole worldview and my approach to
life is now a little bit different. I'm more focused
on just trying to live a good life, just trying
to be a good person, and I guess less focused
on material stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
That's some really good advice from a man who had
this experience when he was six years old. Wow. After
the break, you'll hear one more story from a paramedic
who had his near death experience.
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Speaker 4 (41:11):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and this is life is a stage four gentlemen telling
their near death experiences. And you may wonder why near
death experiences are so different for different people. Well, currently
there's over eight billion people on planet Earth and if
you were to ask any one of them what life
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is like, each one of us would tell a different version.
I think it's an intelligent universe and there's different experiences
that we have. Some say that there's a silver cord
that ties us between this life and the next, and
when we fully are dead, that chord is broken, and
near death experiences people come back. So sometimes our beliefs,
(41:56):
our thoughts, our feelings could be tied in with it.
Let's now meet Adam Tap nineteen years a paramedic.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
Hi, my name is Adam Tap and I had a
new death experience for Every twenty eighth twenty eighteen where
I was electrocuted to debt and I was dead for
around eleven and a half mins before being resuscitated. And
this is my story. I've been in paramedic for twenty
years now, and I do a lot of woodworking, which
I find cathartic and emotional release to some extent. And
(42:26):
I was doing sort of a technique on wood etching
called the Leechtenberg device, where you take a microwave transformer
and basically strip every possible safety feature from it and
hook it up to involve moder and ten both things
see and it basically turns it into twelve thousand bolts DC,
and this highly dangerous machine basically atches these interesting petterns.
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I was with a good friend of mine. We had
had a beer, and we were sitting by my shop
and we were actually this piece of wood, and conveniently enough,
he had taken a high bolt of safety course about
two weeks before, which is profamily convenience for a number
of different reasons. And I remember I was talking to
them and I was moving the electrons one by one
and it just barked into my hand and it was
(43:11):
just a snap from reality.
Speaker 5 (43:13):
It was almost overwhelming.
Speaker 9 (43:14):
It was like this intense level of absolute pain, like
every single cell in my body was being pulled into pieces,
and it was overwhelming to a point. Why didn't understand
all what's happened? It was almost as if everything got
shut down. Everything in my vision was in these vertical cylinders,
this iridescent green that went up and down forever. I
remember trying to focus a thought amongst the energy, and
(43:37):
I think it was like I'd being electrocuted. And then
I think I thought I'm falling, and I felt like
I was falling for ages. And then it was just
like waking up from a nap someplace that I'd always been.
It was this perfect in key blackness. It was almost
like deep space where it was like there's lights in
ad distance, like these twinkling stars to something extent, but
(44:00):
it was just this perfect blackness. It was like I
was seeing spherically from a single point outwards, like I
had just become a single point of awareness. And I
wasn't at him, I wasn't dead, I wasn't anything. I
was just perfect, like absolute contentment, and I was just
in this space. It was just simply existing and awareness.
And then I felt sort of this frequency start washing
over me, and it was like what more. It was
(44:23):
like this fractal patterns and it was like gasoline on water,
this rainbow effect that this aridescent to some extent, and
it was just thoughts and cheerlings and emotions, and I
felt myself sort of being holding to peasants and deposited
into everything. It was like basically becoming fabric of the universe.
(44:45):
And it was absolutely perfect, like there was no fear
and it was nothing. This was just the natural progression
of what every single one of us is going to do.
Just back to the source, back to this into consciousness
or hypid complexity. All of a sudden, I started being
electrocuted again. And at the time I didn't understand what
was happening, but in hindsight, it was me being defabriilited.
Speaker 5 (45:07):
That was defribrilitied twice.
Speaker 9 (45:08):
I was in a ventricle fimbrillation arhythmia, which is basically
the heart spas I mean, And so I was defibrillated
and the tribrillation takes a bunch live seconds, but this
was sort of like minutes, if I could even say that,
of being electrocuted again.
Speaker 5 (45:21):
And then all of a sudden it stopped.
Speaker 9 (45:23):
And now I'm aware that I had him that I'm dead,
I should electrocute it. And now I'm in this boy,
I'm just being and it was a really long time,
and I was just there, maybe coming to terms with
who in what I was and myself and my place
in the universe. And then I started being electrocuted again,
which again was the second fibrillation, and I remember myself
(45:46):
being pulled perhaps out for some variation of that, and
then I say, maybe at one point acknowledged the smell
of bird flash, which would have been my hands. My
finger was burned off third degree burns all over in
his hand, and I was in a coma for eight hours,
which was fine for me, but problematic for everyone else
who thought I was brave that And you know, I
(46:07):
remember waking up in the ICU and I was innovated
to into my lounges and I had it in our
auxious and Engle driller to my shoulderbone. Like my first
thought was how long has it been? I remember like
sort of being able to write something down by Andrael
bandage and like eight hours.
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Or something, and it blew my mind.
Speaker 9 (46:23):
Like if someone had told me it had been five
years or a decade, I would have been completely on
point with that. But what was unique about the experience
since after I was excavated and hugs.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
For everyone and whatnot.
Speaker 9 (46:37):
I remember like looking at myself and I could smell
myself and not body odor in the sense of need
to put yodoran on, but my natural pheromoneal smell that
we all have because the primates, we just go to
great lengths to hide it. But I was so hyper
aware of my smell and the texture of my skin,
and I felt so deeply that I just gote downgraded
(46:57):
from this crazy supercomputer to this commado or two shows
and this pixelated screen, and that stuck with me for
a long time, Like it was months of just feeling
this way, and I remember saying to my wife, like,
this isn't real, but this isn't real. And eventually it
just came back to the acceptance of being my body,
of being in this space. But you know, I was
left with this overwhelming sense that this is just the stage.
(47:23):
This is simply an evolution of consciousness. This is simply
transient why we exist right now. And there wasn't any
antimorship figures or people on roads. It was just simply
going back to the source of everything, which is this
interesting consciousness that permeates everything. Simply the space between subatomic
(47:44):
articles is consciousness. I didn't want to read anything about
other people's near death experiences, but it wanted to change
my interpretation of lot it happened to me, But you know,
I had the traditional phonophobia where I was right sine
glasses at all times a day, like it was even
the light inside of house, which almost be blinded to me.
And anotherly interesting thing too, is that the burns on
my pants actually accelerated healing. I was told I would
(48:06):
need skin brabs, and in a very short period of
time everything wevascularized and started healing, which was interesting that
I can't necessarily state that that's a consistency amongst people.
But it was very much this process of getting used
to what I have to call the munty suit now,
because it very much is. It's very it's a limitating
filter in which I currently existed at the limitations of
(48:28):
my biology. But at the same time it's so deeply
beautiful that I can simply just experience emotions and games.
The one thing that I took from all of this
was in that place when I was devoid of a body,
I was very, very highly aware of the amount of anxiety,
the amount of weird emotions that rich Sish through us
(48:50):
on any specific moment, the biological mechanisms, the hormones that
make us do things. It was a state of absolute
tread cluinality. Again, it was one of those things when
I was back in my body, just feeling these emotions
come up and not necessarily knowing what the dealish them,
because it seemed that I just completely disconnected from everything
that is this biological mechanism data, and now it's back
(49:13):
into this foold. I started doing psychedelics subsequently afterwards, and
I feel that the very nature of death experiences is
so integrally related to these psychonlic compounds and die metical
trip to meaning in our bodies, and our brain is
responsible for dreaming and depth. And I feel that the
experience itself has made me so deeply spiritual, you know.
(49:35):
I think I was superficially spiritual before, in a sense
that we just privily use the word, you know, without
necessarily understanding the deeper meaning behind it.
Speaker 5 (49:43):
But it's almost like experiencing.
Speaker 9 (49:45):
Itching consciousness and becoming part of it and then coming
back to this and still having that awareness, the awareness
that we're just part of something that is so profoundly complicated,
so infinitely perfect. So I think something to take away
from all of this, or something that I noticed has
changed in being my personality is my ability to simply
(50:08):
appreciate a moment as opposed to applying reading to everything
or plans or language, is and simply able to be
in a space and appreciate what's going on. I noticed
that with my daughter in law, just simply being in
a space and enjoining every moment of it. One thing
(50:28):
I also want to mention in this is the similarities
to psychedelic experiences and being dead. You know, one could
artically suggest that my death experience was just an indogenou
steinmfil trip to mean release, which is commonly referred to
as n NDMT and such court psycholic experiences have been death.
They've been versions of this. And I think that at
(50:51):
the end of the day, the one thing that I
would say to someone if they asked me what I
took from this or the advice associated with it, is
that death is quite possibly the most natural thing that happens.
Being dead was easy, it was perfect, It was beautiful.
You know, It's being alive it's difficult and hard. I
think that death in itself is just simply a transition.
(51:15):
It's becoming the fabric of the universe. It's being perfect.
Wanted could argue that we're all perfect already, but we
just refuse to acknowledge that. And being death was just
absolute perfection. And I think that the common fear that
we all have is our mortality, and it's understandable, it's
genetically motivated. You know, if we didn't have a share
(51:36):
of death, we won't be a species that we are today.
But again, death just was simply perfection. It was become
by everything and it was perfect. And I think that
it's made me spiritual innocence now. I think before I
was spiritual but superficially, whereas now it seems that spirituality
(51:57):
has taken on a very significant place in me where
I viscerally know what we all are and where we're
all going. And that does onlyvate a lot of the
share that we all exist with on a day to
day basis. And yeah, I guess to summarize everything was
being dead was a state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Being dead the state of absolute perfection.
Speaker 3 (52:21):
I like that.
Speaker 4 (52:22):
Adam is not only a paramedic, but after this experience,
he started his own podcast called Tapped Into psychedelics. If
you're a fan of near death experiences like I am,
I can recommend some great YouTube channels Life and Beyond
the Other Side ND, Life After Life ND and visit
(52:44):
our friends at ians dot org you can read near
death experiences. They also have a yearly end of summer
conference with over one hundred speakers, and also come visit
me we Don't Die dot com. Lots of great things
always going on, including our free Sunday gathering with medium demonstration.
(53:06):
Life is a stage, my friend, what role are you
going to play? I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you for listening
to Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast
to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network.
Speaker 1 (53:27):
And if you liked this episode of Shades of the Afterlife,
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