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Speaker 2 (00:50):
Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on our
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time together. Today, you'll meet Amy Call, who had a
profound near death experience as a result of an allergic
reaction to medication She gained much wisdom from the other side,
including how our world mirrors the afterlife, the importance of
our humanly experiences, and she even met a young woman
in the afterlife whose words she used to comfort the
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mother upon her return to earth. We have to thank
our friends at ians dot org for this great episode.
Ions is the International Association for Near Death Studies, where
you can find their yearly conference, local groups, and thousands
of near death experience stories. Now let's meet Amy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I come from a large family, six kids, and very
strong in our religion and politics. When I was about
four years old, I overheard my mom down the hallway
and I heard her talking about something heard the word cancer,
and I didn't understand what cancer was, but I sensed
in her tone that something wasn't okay. Even at a
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very young age, I was always very sensitive. So I
heard her bringing up cancer and I go to my
mom and I was asking her what is cancer? And
she had to explain to me what that was, That
people have cancer and sometimes bad things can happen from that.
And even at a young age, I really had this
strong belief in well there's a God and okay, well
he can fix it. And she said, well, sometimes people
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aren't fixed, you know, sometimes God lets people suffer and
die and sometimes it doesn't work out the way that
we might want it to. And I just kept thinking,
but if this person is suffering at a certain point,
can't we just pray and God can fix it. So
that was my first understanding that they're suffering in the world.
So that was my big mind blow at age four,
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and it kind of sent me into a spiral because
I became ultra aware after that of suffering and I
almost was like a magnet to it. Now, I already
had the sensitive nature where I felt one with everything,
and I think this came even before that age. I
had a difficult time separating myself from others, and it
wasn't just people, it was animals, plants, everything that was
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I felt very connected. Always being so ultra aware of
suffering in the world was very difficult for me because
I soon realized I was responding differently than other people
that I was around, and I didn't understand why, how
come when we hear on the news that people in
Africa are going through such and such, why is everyone
not in a ball on the floor crying as if
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it's their own children, because to me, when I heard
this is happening to the little girls there, you might
as well have told me my child, my own daughter
is going through this. That's how I felt it. It
was so devastating. And then to live in the world
where we have this access to information all the time
and people are always telling us these incredible things that
are going on. I just felt bombarded all the time
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and devastated. And I felt confused too. Like I said,
I didn't understand why other people weren't responding the same.
They'd go out and have a party and be laughing,
and I'm thinking, didn't you hear that someone was just kidnapped?
And it was kind of goring for me to be
this way, And so I went through what we could
call depression. Then when I was upset, it was like, oh, well,
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she's experiencing depression. I remember being four years old and
telling my dad if things are like this, I don't
want to be here. I can't handle it. I can't
be in this place where there's this much suffering and
it looks like God's not fixing it. And so I
started becoming attracted to the idea of dying. At the
same time, I had this fear come in about yes,
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I want to die, but I don't want to be
on the other side either, because if there's a God
that could allow this to happen, why would I be
so excited to go there with this person like this,
who had remote control to our lives, and who could
favor that person and then hurt that person. I was
in this in between place that was neither here nor there,
and it was very upsetting for me. My mom was
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diagnosed with fibromyalgia and my grandmother had ankylosiane spondylitis. I was,
of course close to both of them, and they both
went through constant suffering and pain, and this was very
difficult for me. I was especially close with my grandma
went there for refuge to her home, and it was
very hard for me to hear her crying and go
through to the chiropractor and overhear her. I was constantly praying.
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I was constantly asking God, please, please, please. Once they
prove that they're good, can you just please bless them
and let them be free of their suffering and pain.
Sometimes we'd see certain people feel better, but a lot
of times I didn't see things get better. So I
was always praying, and I did hear a lot. If
you pray and you have faith, then the blessings come.
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I got to the point where, when I was about sixteen,
I think the concern came in from my parents. Obviously,
you know, they were concerned I was standing out in
certain ways as being kind of different. It wasn't that
I was just this depressed, morbid person going along. I
didn't like being that way. I didn't know how else
to be. I really couldn't imagine being a way where
I disconnected, because that's all I could get from people.
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They'd say, well, just don't think about it. I thought, really,
if your child is going through something that devastating, do
you just not think about it. So I was sent
to the psychiatrist as a teenager. At age sixteen, I
was diagnosed as bipolar. After I went in and the
psychiatrist handed me a worksheet, I had this fantasy that
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I would go in and this wise man with a
nice long beard would have the answers and he would
be able to explain everything to me, and he would
say the reasons why and I would get it, and
then I would say, oh, I get it, and things
would be better. But I didn't ever get that. He
just handed me the worksheet and it said things like,
are you sometimes very happy? Are you sometimes very sad?
Have you ever wanted to die? And yes, yes, yes,
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And he came back in the room and skimmed over
and he said, sounds like you're bipolar. So he sent
me out and I went and got my prescriptions for
very heavy medication and I started in the world of
being heavily medicated after that, and I felt very big difference.
It's hard to put into words, but I didn't feel
connected to maybe my heart or my passions. And in
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a way I could see like, Okay, well, maybe there's
some good to this, because I can feel that I
can't even care as much as I did before. But
it was in a number of ways. I also lost
my passion for some of the things that were beautiful
and good. And at age seventeen, I woke up one
morning and I felt that I couldn't breathe, and my
whole body felt pulverized. It was like I had been
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in an accident. In fact, I didn't know what had happened,
but I was sure something must have happened, and I
must have forgotten. I was in bed and tried to
scream because the pain was so incredible from head to toe,
and I couldn't take a breath. As soon as I
breathed into scream, I had to stop because my chest area,
the torso, was so inflamed. I didn't dare even try
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to breathe in and I just started crying. And I
was diagnosed to age seventeen with fibromyalgia, and they sent
me home on lots of pain meds for that. And
at eighteen I reached this point where I kind of
hit a wall. I don't like the feeling of these medications,
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and then of course if i'd stop, my brain would
kind of freak out because you can't just take something
that heavy and then just stop, and people would say, well, see,
you need your medications. So I was going back and
forth and really struggling, and at eighteen we had this
day where all the right factors seemed to come in
at the same point, and I did hit that place
where I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't planned, it
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was kind of spontaneous. I just knew that I wanted
to get out, and I took every pill that I
could find. It almost felt animalistic. The way that I
reacted it was from another place, beyond a thinking place.
That wasn't where my NDE came in. But just to
give you a background of where I come from, this
is part of my background. So obviously I made it
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through that. At age twenty one, I did what I
was supposed to do. I got married and I started
having children, and I was trying to follow the list
of what you do if you have faith, if you're
doing the right things and instead of the wrong things,
and if you follow what we're taught, and so I
was trying to do everything, and I wanted so desperately
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for a change to happen with all the pain that
I was in and with everyone else, with the suffering
that I saw in the world. A prayer that I
repeated all the time was please let me be a
tool in my hands. I just wanted so badly to
help with the suffering, because I really did feel one
with it. And more than anything, I wanted, as I
wanted to believe, there was this God that had answers.
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I wanted to be a tool in his hands. And
I repeated this all the time. And I did believe
in miracles, and I wanted this to happen, so I
continued trying to do the right things and have faith.
I had four children, and all the while leading through
the pregnancies and what was going on, there were a
number of health factors that were coming in and things
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were getting worse and worse, and I got to the
point where I was crawling on the floor instead of
walking at times because it was so painful, and holding
my babies was difficult because it hurt too much to
all of them, and I was frightened because I was
also not sleeping. The pain was so intense and the
muscle spasms I was having were so intense that at
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night time I got to where I would sleep for
fifteen minutes and then I would have to wake up.
And I'm sorry, I get emotional, but I go right
back into the places that I've been, so it brings
up a lot. I would have to wake up every
fifteen minutes, and at a certain point I could feel
my brain was just going, I can't do this. It
was like I would be awake, but my brain was
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like I got to go to sleep. And so it
was a frightening feeling to be conscious and realize my
brain was just shutting down.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I have four kids and this family, and I kept
praying to God, something has to happen. I know you're
not going to let me just actually lose my mind
with these four kids. I just want to do what's right.
I just want to do the things that I was
taught to do. And I finally hit another point, another
milestone in this journey where I couldn't pray anymore. And
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one day I just kind of hit the floor. I
just went down and landed on my knees. And I
won't get into the details of the prayer, but it
was essentially simple where I just said I know nothing.
I don't know anything anymore. I kind of just released
everything I thought. I knew all the things I believed in.
You need to believe in this and believe in that,
and this is this, and that's that. There was nothing
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anymore in my mind. I couldn't hold it all anymore
because it was too painful. I couldn't even hold on
to the belief of prayer. So I just felt my
knees and said to God, I surrender. I don't know anything,
and I'd let it all go. So shortly after this,
I was seeing the doctor checking in, and the doctor
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was saying, I'm going to give you something. Because I
was so desperate. I was saying, something awful is going
to happen because things are shutting down. I'm reaching spaces
where i can't even use my brain, and I'm really frightened.
I know if I have sleep, I can do this.
I can get through the pain. So he said, I
have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain,
but we've found by accident that it seems to help both,
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and I want you to try this.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Going to stop here for our break because when we
get back, the series of medications she takes does lead
to her near death experience. I'm sure we can all
feel some of the pain and suffering, and Amy feels
that there is a happy outcome. So let's go to
the break and we'll be right back with the near
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death experience of Amy Call. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sander Champlain. We're listening to the near death experience
of Amy Call, a young woman who was diagnosed bipolar
after a few brief questions from a doctor. As a
highly sensitive woman, of course, she goes looking for answers
to her pain and suffering and gets prescribed with even
more medication, leading to her near death experience. Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I
can do this. I can get through the pain. So
he said, I have something. It's not typically used for
sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it
seems to help both, and I want you to try this.
I was kind of nervous because I had a history
of every medication they'd ever given me had given me problems,
and then they'd given me medications for those problems, and
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then stuff for the problems of those problems. And at
that point I was taking something for every function that
there was to wake up, to go to sleep, to
go to the bathroom. My body wasn't working anymore without
using something. So he gives me this, and I'm just thinking, oh,
one more thing that's not going to work or feel
right in me. So I went home and I shaved
off just a little and I tried it and noticed
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right away my nose was swelling up and I couldn't
breathe out of my nose, and that concerned me, and
so I went back to the doctor and said, I'm
concerned because I can't breathe out of my nose very
well when I take it. And he was kind of like, Amy,
you have a stuff. He knows. Just take the fuel holes.
You're being dramatic or whatever. He was like, trust me,
just take this three pills. So I went home. I
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was holding my youngest child. I was thirty years old.
I remember my baby at the time was three months old.
This baby had come home from the hospital with loringo Malaysia,
so her throat wasn't done developing when she had come
home from the hospital, and I was told, you can
take her home. Just keep her from crying because the
throat can kind of fold in on itself, So don't
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let the baby cry, you know, keep her from crying,
which was very stressful for me, dealing with everything I
was dealing with and having this situation where I'm suposed
to keep a newborn from crying. She was really upset
and I'm trying to soothe her and get her to
go to sleep, and I'm just so exhausted, and the
room started to get dark, and I noticed this darkness.
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It was kind of unusual the way it came in,
almost like when clouds just suddenly sweep over an area
and it gets surprisingly dark. But I was in the
middle of my house and the room just kind of
folded in almost with this darkness, and it was so
very black. And it might sound spooky, but to me,
there was something incredibly comforting happening in that it felt
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like a quilt was coming around me and everything just
went super super black. As this happened, there was a
glow that came in over me, and I realized I
could look over and see my daughter's face. Now, she
had been a really serious baby because of all the
stuff she had gone through, and we hadn't really seen
a lot of smiling or giggling, and she just suddenly
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as this glow came over, she just giggled spontaneously and smiled,
so I was able to see her smile and giggle
like that for the first time. At the same time
she did that, she closed her eyes and fell into
a really deep, RESTful sleep. The whole situation reminds me
of the cartoon I saw when I was younger, where
the blackness comes in and then at the end, the
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cartoon figure comes out and says, that's all, folks. It
was a feeling almost like that. It was beautiful and comforting,
and yet I had this feeling like it's over. I
wasn't thinking that, but there was this sense of concld
pclusion and there was a peacefulness. And I took the
baby and I went and put her in her bed,
and I went to my room. My husband was in
the opposite side of the house, in the back corner,
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and he was either reading or studying, so he was
back there. And I think it was like nine or
nine thirty, and I went in the room and I
just thought, I have to take the pills, and I'm
not going to worry about it anymore. I just need
to do what I need to do. And so I
went and laid down on the bed. I took my pills,
all three of them. It was like as soon as
I took it, I could feel I couldn't move, I
couldn't breathe through my nose, I couldn't open my mouth
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to breathe through my mouth. I couldn't breathe at all,
and I couldn't flinch my muscles. It was almost like
I was stuck, I was paralyzed or something, and so
I went, of course into a panic in my mind,
I'm not breathing, and I was acutely aware I can't breathe.
I can't breathe. I got to that point where I knew,
if I go any longer, that's it. It's over. And
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it was just this really fast spinning in my head
of this panic, like there's nothing I can do. And
there was suddenly this suction from the top of my head.
I don't know what else to say other than that
was like a suction, and I was free. So moving
on to the next part, I didn't have to breathe.
Of course, I was coming through a portal and there
were a number of other people, and it felt totally normal.
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I didn't see gold lined roads or I didn't see
angels with wings. It just was like here, except much
more intensely real. And my way of comparing this because
it's so difficult to put to words something that we
don't have strong comparisons for, as I've used TVs, like
there's the new HDTVs and we didn't know about those
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back when we had the black and white or the
fuzzy colored TVs. All we knew was the TVs we had,
but now we look back at those and it's just
almost comical. They don't compare to the TVs we have now.
And there it was just so much more real and clear,
and my mind was clear, so I didn't have a
reason to think that I was dead or that anyone
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else was. So I'm in this area as the people
are coming through. There's communication going on, but it's not
quite like here how I'm talking and everyone could understand
each other. And for some reason this also seemed completely natural.
In real life, I tend to be more intense or
high strung or maybe jumpy how I was, so I
would have thought that's how I would react, But here,
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for some reason, fear and things like that weren't a
strong factor. So there was communication going on. I saw
a man in a certain area, and I seem to
have this understanding that he was like a mentor or
a teacher, and I went to him because I wanted
to understand what was going on. And when I talked
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to this man, I used talk when we had an
understandings between us and communication. I wanted to know who
he was, and that's how I knew he was like
a mentor. I found out he died in a car accident.
He drove trucks as a profession. But what he was
there for was the factor of humility. And when he
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was there, he was able to teach in a way
the people that were in this space the importance of humility.
And this kind of humility that I could feel from him,
it wouldn't be what I would have expected prior to
my Nde. It wasn't like a bowing or a being small.
What he was acted like a tuning fork to that area,
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and it was kind of like a gift to those
who were there to be able to just feel what
that was. And I could feel it, and it was
peaceful and it was a good thing. And he explained
to me that the people that were in this space
had brought themselves to their own demce and I kind
of understood this, almost like how we understand suicide, but
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it was not necessarily how we might imagine, you know,
someone went and consciously took their life. A lot of
these situations, as I understood, were things like someone was
drunk driving and they ended up dying, or someone mixed
the wrong drugs and ended up dying or someone took
like a risk, like I'm going to jump over that
cliff and see if I make it to the other side.
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It was a little different than what I would have expected,
but at the same time I kind of understood it,
almost like from their point of view, that it was
a kind of suicide in a way. He was explaining
to me that despite what he could offer the people there,
he couldn't fully teach them because true learning happens in
the body. This is a big deal to me personally,
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because so much of my life was about wanting to
escape the body and wanting that for other people. And
I also grew up hearing you know, when you die,
you get to take off that glove and you get
to be free. With this understanding in this place that
true learning happens within the body, because when we are
in experience in this form, there's something that evolves within
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us at soul level that makes the body an important
part of whole. That it is one's good and one's bad,
but that the two worked together in an important way.
I at one point was moving to another area and
there was another man in this cross point. I just
knew for some reason that he also was someone who
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was similar to like a mentor or a type of
teacher or something. I didn't even have to ask, because
the question that was there in my mind, well, which
one is the true church? It was already in his
understanding that it was in my mind. And at the
same time that I was feeling this question, I was
in his place, seeing myself from his wisdom and knowledge
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and background. The way I saw myself asking was like
a little kid who goes up to someone with maybe
some more wisdom or knowledge. And it was as if
I were saying, so, tell me which kind of cheese
is the moon made of? Is it Jack Swiss or Cheddar.
He didn't answer me with words or or even with
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that telepathic communication. He smiled at me, and he just
lowered his head in a way that I understood he
was gonna let me wait a while until I was
ready to figure out what it was I really needed
to ask. I had a young woman come up to
me at a certain point where she was very very
close and intensely moved into my face like pay attention.
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Not that she said that, but I could feel from
her this is important. And she started saying things like
tell them this I need you to say this, I
need you to explain that. As she was giving information
about her life, personal stuff to her, and I wasn't
sure why because I didn't recognize her. I was fine
with her. I didn't feel like I needed to get away.
She seemed nice and I wanted to be polite, and
so she gave me this information about her. She was
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saying things like, tell them I'm free, tell them I'm
not in any pain. Tell them that I am happy.
I have joy now, she said, tell them that before
I went, I had started to sing, and that brought
me Joe and I really loved singing. There were just
a number of things that she was offering to me,
including this is what it felt like when I died,
and I could empathetically feel what she went through, which
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for some reason didn't bother me. I could feel it
and it was okay. And then she wanted me to
hear her singing, and so she started singing, and I
was like, yeah, she does have a really good voice.
It's a beautiful voice. So that happened, and whatever point
this was, time and space are just so strange there.
I didn't even know when I came back, what do
I say happened first, second, third, But I went back
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to the first man and I was saying, what are
these people here for? And he said, well, they're all deceased,
they're dead. And I said this in a way in
my head, I said, if they're dead, what am I?
He gave to me an understanding that I wasn't quite
the same as the rest of them. It was as
if I had some life left. But he was saying,
you're not the same as the rest of them, and
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I was like, okay, I'm out here. I just knew
I wanted to go out. So in one way, this
is the end of my ND, and I took off
and just left. But in another way, there was something
going on. And I say simultaneously, because again I don't
know where to place this, so I concluded that it
must have all happened at once, but there's an entirely
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different portion of my ND that happened.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
We're going to take our next break here, and when
we come back here about her simultaneous near death experience,
we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast, a m paranormal
podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain, and we just heard some of Amy Call's
near death experience. She thought it was over after spending
time with a woman who wanted to give a message
to her loved ones when she got back. Now she
moves into another experience.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
There was something going on, and I say simultaneously, because
again I don't know where to place this, so I
concluded that it must have all happened at once. But
there's an entirely different portion of my nd that happened.
And in this other part of my NDE, it wasn't
the same as that portal experience with the people you know.
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In the portal experience, I was Amy, I was my identity,
I had my connections to family, and oh my gosh,
I got to get out of here, back to where
I come from. And in the other experience, I wasn't
connected to any of it. I didn't have the stuff
that made up who I am, or I didn't have
the questions of like, well, which one is the truth?
In the other part, it was like I was just soul,
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and yet in some way I retained a being that
made up this right here, and yet I was part
of all of it, and I felt one with all
of it. And in this other part, I had my
guide with me, and I was at home with my guide,
and this part was the most comforting and beautiful experience.
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But just to go into some of it, my guide
was with me, and it was like I had access
to everything what struck me so strongly in my experience.
You know, if a teacher gets up at the front
and says, let me show you this math or let
me teach you this I was all of it. I
knew while I was these things, this math and this science,
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and this order that was in the universe. I knew
that there was nowhere that it wasn't even if there's
a tiny bug going across the room, I knew that
that was within this math and science too, in this
beautiful order. So for me, it was beyond just beautiful,
because my life before the experience, I struggled with looking
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out in the world and feeling like this really looks chaotic,
and so in my experience to be within this order
and see there was so much order, it was beyond
anything I could imagine or ever put word to. It
was incredibly beautiful and peaceful, and it's funny because also
before my experience, I couldn't stand math and science, and
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it was like this huge mental block for me. I
couldn't even get to like third grade math without just
plugging my ears. I've always struggled with spatial things, time
and space and numbers and things like that because I
was someone who had to feel everything inside of me.
So having teachers in school trying to teach me something
that I couldn't step inside of and feel or taste
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just didn't work for me. And then being in this
experience where I could feel it all. When I was
out in this part that I just say, I'm out
in the universe, I had this understanding that the way
everything worked in the universe was almost as if there
was like a big clockwork thing going on in the sky.
There was this reflection thing going on where the above
reflected everything here and here reflected there even within our
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own bodies, and I could just be part of it.
It's not that someone sat down, like I said, and
gave me all the nitty gritty details. I could feel
it and I knew it and I trusted it because
I was it and it was perfect. So that was
of course another healing thing for me. Then this other
part that I found people called life review. Growing up,
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I'd had times where my mom would say something like,
if you do something and it's not good, you're gonna
be embarrassed because you'll have to see that after you die,
and so you should be good, and things like that.
I didn't imagine it the way that it actually happened.
What happened in my life review is that it was
just powerfully loving and I felt almost like a totem
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pole way of being. In this life review where we
have at the portal, I was more identity, and then
on this other part I was just like soul and
I wasn't my identity. And in a life review, I
had this connection to the smallest part of me that
was like the little ego or whatever we want to
call it. And I had this connection also to the
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part of me that's just soul. And then I had
connection to the people on the outside all around me,
and yet I could feel the oneness as well and
all the layers of everyone and everything that was. And
then I also had a connection beyond that that was source.
And I say source a lot because it feels almost
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weird for me to use God since my end, because
it feels almost like I'm narrowing it. But I understand
we need words here, so I say both. But I
was connected to source as well, and it all came
together in my life review, and I could feel everyone,
and I could feel myself and I had compassion on
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my soul and other people, the way as parents when
we have a toddler or two toddlers say they're playing
and one gets mad and pulls the block from the other,
and we're not thinking of that toddler, you're evil or
you're bad, or now you're not going to make it
to heaven, you know, or or if your toddler runs
down the hallway and trips and falls, it's not I'm
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going to write that one down. I just understood everyone
like children, and I wanted for everyone, including myself, And
in that life review, I was able to feel for
myself the way we would feel for our own children.
And I had this compassion for myself where I wanted
for myself to be happier and to do better, not
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as in get the higher grade, but just to be happier,
that kind of better, like have fun, lighting up, It's okay,
you know and in this experience in a life review,
I had someone in my life who I thought was
my enemy, and this person came up in the life
review and I didn't even realize. It's not that I
consciously I should say of enemy, but I saw her
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and I had judgments in my mind. You know, she's
so bad from what I had experienced, and I didn't
realize that I had held that in me. And in
the life review, I connected with this person and that
was probably the most powerful feeling of love. And my
whole ENDE was when I was able to connect with
who she really is beyond all of the things I
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thought I knew about her and the judgments that I made,
And it doesn't condone what had happened what I had seen,
but the love that I felt from the source coming
through at all the different levels and being able to
see her and who she really is and what she's
connected to was another mind blowing thing for me. And
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so after my NDE, I came back and immediately was
just it was a big relief. I was sobbing and
just all this stuff coming out, and I could almost
feel like my body physically was changing because I had
this love for her. That was like the love that
you would feel for a firstborn child. I just loved
her so much. So that was another part. Then I
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had a part where it was like I was getting downloading.
I saw the planet come in. This was the planet Earth.
I saw letters above the planet and capitals. It was
nov A Ta. This is Novata. And when I saw this,
I heard a voice that was saying the seven days
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of the week. It was in Spanish, I understood, but
it was doing the seven days of the week. And
then I heard prepare for the seventh day. I ended
up going around the planet, and as I went around
the planet, I could feel the energies and frequencies of
all the different countries in every place. I could feel
that each place had its own kind of frequency or
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spirit about it that was special to that place. And
yet I could also feel how they were interconnected, and
it was this important whole that was needed for the
whole planet. But it was very interesting for me to
feel that not only did a country have its own frequency,
but then you know places within the country had their own,
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and then you know cities within that and even neighborhoods,
and at every level that everything was interconnected and yet
special at the same time. So I had this going on,
and then I had this understanding coming in that this
was one thing that actually did come in words. I
had very little that I could bring back that I
could say, and it said this. But one thing I
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kept getting that repeated even after I came back, was
come back to the Earth. My understanding was with how
it was communicated to me, was that there was something
with the food on the planet, that it was not
in purest form, and that it needed to come back
to its pure state, and that this was very important.
And I understood the word tainted. I had been, of course,
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in so much physical pain for so long. When I
did come back, right away everything changed. It was in
instantly I started eating much more simple, more pure. I
didn't really know there was a thing such as food
that has been mutated or changed, but I was trying
to get food in its most pure form. And I've
stuck with that ever since. I've been eating very simply,
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more pure, and that's something that's helped me a lot.
Like I said, I didn't know what Novada meant, and
I wanted to mention in case I forget that I
did have someone who contacted me who read my near
death experience online, and she said, I wanted to tell
you that I looked up what novoda is and she
told me that it means new birth or new beginning. Now,
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when I saw the planet, the colors on the planet
were intense, but I've already explained that on that side,
the colors are way more clear and intense, and this
is kind of the blurry place. This is the black
and white TV realm. And there it was just like
it is as it really is. So the planet was
just beautiful. And when I saw the planet, there was
an overlay, almost like a different layer or dimension to it.
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But I could see there was an eye, and when
I first saw it, it was closed, but it was
in the process of opening over the planet. It was
just one eye encompassing the planet. And I saw the
planet as a being. I knew it as a being,
and so this is how I see the planet still,
that it's a being, and so it's important to me.
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Now I hadn't seen it that way before, so that's
something that's special to me. I saw different planets different moons.
I saw one planet that was completely covered in water,
and then the planet comes up right in front of me,
and my guide says that it's time to go back.
And when my guide tells me that it's time to
go back, I almost felt like a rupturing in my
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being at just the idea of separating from what this
situation was. It was like, there's no possibility there. It
didn't matter. I wasn't going back. But what was so painful,
and I say painful, It sounds weird, but yes, I
felt agony. What was so painful was just the idea
of division, separation, and I felt a feeling like if
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I were glass. It felt like the glass shattered and
I was shattering. I was wailing, but it was so deep.
It was like if I were in the physical body.
I would say every cell in my body seemed to
be in agony and crying out. It was like a
moaning and it couldn't even get it out because it
was so powerful. It was almost like an implosion. My
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guide said, look to your left, and so I looked
to my left, and my four year old daughter was
being brought to me. A guide was with her, and
she was being brought to me, and she comes up
to me over here, and she just kind of reaches
up to me and does like a tugging thing, which
of course brings me back in this experience to identity
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rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's my
daughter and she's saying, mommy, but who will take care
of us? And she's smiling.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
We have to take a break, and I promise pick
up right where we left off. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:31):
I'm Sandras Champlain and we're hearing the near death experience
of Amy. Call now if you can stay with me
to the end, I want to share a miracle that's
just happened to me and it relates to something that
she shared in this near death experience. So, last we
left Amy, it was time for her to return to earth,
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but she didn't want to. Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
My guide said look to your left, and so I
looked to my left and my four year old daughter
was being brought to me. A guide was with her,
and she was being brought to me and she comes
up to me over here and she just kind of
reaches up to me and does like a tugging thing,
which of course brings me back in this experience, to
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identity rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's
my daughter and she's saying, Mommy, but who will take
care of us? And she's smiling. Before she could even
finish asking me, I was saying, of course I will.
And I don't see myself as saying that at the
level I'm at right now. What I'm trying to say
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is that on my own, I don't believe that I
would have said that, because in the place I was in,
I knew everything was okay. I didn't need to go back,
And even if someone had said, hey, remember your family,
do you want to go back, I would have said,
they're fine, I'm going to stay. But when she specifically
asked me, it was this call because in that place
I was so connected to the source and the higher
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love and everything that was there that was so powerful,
and I was one with it that was coming through
as part of who or what I was that helped answer.
So in that place, it was the love that was
coming through, the divine love that said, of course I will.
The guide took my daughter back and just still trying
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to come to terms with I'm leaving this place was
still so difficult. This pain was still coming through. And
my guide says, look to your right. So I looked
to my right, and there's a holographic image and it's
a living holographic image. It's not a movie or something
made up. It was my mom and it was my
mom in the future. And I could see that she
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was fragile, and I could see that she was struggling
and she wasn't having an easy time. And my mom
comes from a time period where people did their hair
well and they dressed really well, fifties girl, and I
could see that she had like a little hair here
and there, and I was thinking, oh my gosh, my
mom would not be okay with that, and I just
wanted to be there for her. Like naturally, I wanted
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to help her because I know what it is that
my mom cares about. And I moved toward this holograph
of my mom, and I felt myself willing myself to
go forward. In doing this, I understood that there was
a level of what I am and what I come
from that did want to go back. It was just
hard in a certain part of me to understand that
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there was a higher will, that's part of me that
did want to go back. So I did understand, but
still continued with the crying, like how do I actually
just go because I couldn't imagine doing bad action and
going and there's the planet waiting for me. So I'm
still in this deep crying and my guide says very well,
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and then it was like there was a spin of
a vortex spinning and it comes to me and we
became one. I knew that my guide and I were one,
and I got put your finger out reach toward the planet,
and so I'm of course, this is the first time
in that part of my experience coming to the idea
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of body again, other than my daughter reaching toward me
and reminding me. I reached forward and it was like
I could see the outer form of the tip of
my finger as I reached toward the planet, and there
was like an electrical zipline or something that just shot
out at my fingertip. There was just an immediate section.
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It was just instant. And then I was back and
I'm in my bedroom and I have my guide still
with me, but I couldn't connect to my body. I
could see that my body was in the bed, and
at this point my husband is next to my body,
and I'm trying to get in my body, and I
couldn't feel anything, and I got this panic because I
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wasn't back there where I was, which was so awesome,
and I'm not feeling safe back in my body, and
so of course I'm getting frantic. I don't know what
to do. And I feel my guide go through the throat,
go through the throat, and so all I can feel
of myself is that I'm energy and my consciousness. So
I start blasting myself over and over through the throat
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of my body. And I just keep doing this, throwing
my energy through the throat, and then I see my
jaw drop and this kind of like a grown noise,
almost like a toad, just like air passed, a little
bit of air pass out of the mouth, just enough
to make the slightest low sound. And my husband says Amy,
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And I just kept doing this, throwing my energy through
the throat, and then he says Amy again, this time
reaching over, and then he kind of jumps up, and
I see him running to the light switch and he
flips it on, and he's running over and he looks
at me, and his face just looked like it turned
to wax, and there were beads of sweat that just
instantly formed around his hairline. And I don't know where
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I was that I could look at all of this,
but I was looking at this and he's grabbed me
and he's saying Amy, Amy over and over and shaking
the body and trying to lift it, and I was surprised.
I remember being really surprised, like why is it so
hard for him to lift because he's pretty strong, big guy,
and it would be easy to lift me, but he
was really having a hard time, like lifting the body,
but he was, you know, shaking and shaking, and I
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just had this understanding that with his hands on my body,
it's going to be okay because he's like a cable line,
the physical body connecting to my body would send what
was needed through. So at this point I just relaxed
and waited for this to happen because it was what
I was being given. And then sure enough, as he
was doing this, that was the first thing I could
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physically feel was the electricity was running all over the
top of my skin, coming from his hands from head
to toe. It finally covered me, and then I started
connecting with this electricity. That's what I connected with, and
then I was in my body. After this experience, of course,
my husband's asking what happened and things like that, and
it was just too much and I did don't know
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how to begin or what words to use. So he
just kept saying, We've got to write it down. You've
got to write it down. And I hesitated because I
just thought I know how this sounds. So I hesitated
for many, many years. But after this experience, I went
right away to church, and my husband was surprised because
he was saying, you know, you'd think after something like that,
you'd be in bed for two weeks. I was very
determined to get to church. And it wasn't because I
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needed to go to church. It was like there was
something that was telling me you have to be there.
There's something going on, you have to be there. It
was one of those things where it's just you get
a feeling you're supposed to be somewhere, and so I
told him, no, there's something that's going to happen. I
have to be in whatever this is that's going to happen.
By the way, right after my experience. My husband was
kind of freaking out, like do I call nine one one?
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What do we need to do? What's happening, you know?
And I was totally adamant, There's no way you're calling anyone.
I'm not going to a doctor. I don't need to
ask a doctor if I'm okay. I was totally sure
that I was okay. I was more okay than ever,
So there's no way that I was going to let
him call a doctor or anyone. So going back to
going to church, I showed up there and not sure
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what I was doing, and I sat down, and then
at the part of church where they're passing bread and
the water, I felt right then, a very strong, very powerful,
like right now, this is it, Get up and go out.
I didn't know why, but I was still very much
with my guide, stood up and left and out in
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the main area, there was a woman sitting in a
love seat and she was crying, very heavily crying, and
she was surrounded by a number of people who were
comforting her and hugging her. And I still wasn't sure
exactly what I was going to be doing with her,
so I kind of walked off down the hall and
took a break and waited for a little bit, came back,
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and then when I came back to her, she didn't
have the people around her, so I was able to
ask her what was going on, and she said that
she just found out that her daughter had died, and
I right away got this flash like oh, But I
didn't want to say any thing weird. It wasn't appropriate
for me to say anything at that point, and I
didn't know for sure, so I actually invited her. I said,
do you want to come back to my house tomorrow?
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And I knew very specifically what the young woman looked
like in my experience. She had a very unusual look
and the coloring in her hair and eyes. So I said,
do you feel like you could come talk to me
about it tomorrow? And she said yes, And I was
surprised that she was open about that, And I said,
could you bring a photo, because I figured, you know,
if it's not her, I still would want to be
there for her, and if it is, then we might
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have something to talk about. So she came and she
brought a black and white photo. Even with a black
and white photo, I knew right away that it was
that young woman and I said to her, did your
daughter have like an unusual red coloring in her hair,
the really unusual color red? And she said yes. And
I described her eyes then, the unusual color of her eyes,
and she was surprised, yes. And then I was able
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to say what happened. I was able to explain to
the lady what happened in my experience, which was comforting
for her. I was able to give information on the
death and anyway, that's basically my experience.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
That's the end of the recording with Amy. She has
not gone on to write a book or be famous.
She's just one of the many thousands of people that
share their story through ians dot org. Again, that's our
friends at the International Association for Near Death Studies. When
Amy spoke of having compassion on ourselves and then having
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compassion on others, I believe we've all made judgments about
other people, making them right or wrong. And it was
around fifteen years ago with the passing of my dad
that my siblings outcast me, not being able to see
them or their children. It led me into deep grief,
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deep depression. Ultimately, learning about grief, I went on to
write my book and I'm here with you now host
of shades of the afterlife all because of that. But internally,
have I made them wrong? Yes, but I've also blessed
them because I'm here with you today. So the miracle
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is these kids that I hadn't seen in fifteen years
have just taken a trip to visit my mom and myself.
They spent four days with us, and I am one
of the happiest girls on the planet. They missed us
as much as we missed them, and we all agreed
there's going to be a great future ahead for us
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as family. And after listening to this episode, I will
do my best to look at those who I may
have disagreements with through the eyes of a loving parent
or through the source and be understanding. I also want
to remind each of us to have compassion on ourselves.
It's tough being human. We're doing the best we can,
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but you never know when something we think is negative
could turn into the best thing that's ever happened to us,
which is what happened to me. Without things going exactly
the way they did, I wouldn't be here with you today.
As a reminder, come visit me Atweedo'tdie dot com. That's
my home base. Get a free copy of my book
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In closing, this is Sandra Champlain and I'm always so
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Hi.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, will discuss the reasons we now know
that our loved ones have survived physical death and so
will we. Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife on our
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time together. Today, you'll meet Amy Call, who had a
profound near death experience as a result of an allergic
reaction to medication She gained much wisdom from the other side,
including how our world mirrors the afterlife, the importance of
our humanly experiences, and she even met a young woman
in the afterlife whose words she used to comfort the
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mother upon her return to earth. We have to thank
our friends at ians dot org for this great episode.
Ions is the International Association for Near Death Studies, where
you can find their yearly conference, local groups, and thousands
of near death experience stories. Now let's meet Amy.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
I come from a large family, six kids, and very
strong in our religion and politics. When I was about
four years old, I overheard my mom down the hallway
and I heard her talking about something heard the word cancer,
and I didn't understand what cancer was, but I sensed
in her tone that something wasn't okay. Even at a
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very young age, I was always very sensitive. So I
heard her bringing up cancer and I go to my
mom and I was asking her what is cancer? And
she had to explain to me what that was, That
people have cancer and sometimes bad things can happen from that.
And even at a young age, I really had this
strong belief in well there's a God and okay, well
he can fix it. And she said, well, sometimes people
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aren't fixed, you know, sometimes God lets people suffer and
die and sometimes it doesn't work out the way that
we might want it to. And I just kept thinking,
but if this person is suffering at a certain point,
can't we just pray and God can fix it. So
that was my first understanding that they're suffering in the world.
So that was my big mind blow at age four,
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and it kind of sent me into a spiral because
I became ultra aware after that of suffering and I
almost was like a magnet to it. Now, I already
had the sensitive nature where I felt one with everything,
and I think this came even before that age. I
had a difficult time separating myself from others, and it
wasn't just people, it was animals, plants, everything that was
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I felt very connected. Always being so ultra aware of
suffering in the world was very difficult for me because
I soon realized I was responding differently than other people
that I was around, and I didn't understand why, how
come when we hear on the news that people in
Africa are going through such and such, why is everyone
not in a ball on the floor crying as if
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it's their own children, because to me, when I heard
this is happening to the little girls there, you might
as well have told me my child, my own daughter
is going through this. That's how I felt it. It
was so devastating. And then to live in the world
where we have this access to information all the time
and people are always telling us these incredible things that
are going on. I just felt bombarded all the time
(04:07):
and devastated. And I felt confused too. Like I said,
I didn't understand why other people weren't responding the same.
They'd go out and have a party and be laughing,
and I'm thinking, didn't you hear that someone was just kidnapped?
And it was kind of goring for me to be
this way, And so I went through what we could
call depression. Then when I was upset, it was like, oh, well,
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she's experiencing depression. I remember being four years old and
telling my dad if things are like this, I don't
want to be here. I can't handle it. I can't
be in this place where there's this much suffering and
it looks like God's not fixing it. And so I
started becoming attracted to the idea of dying. At the
same time, I had this fear come in about yes,
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I want to die, but I don't want to be
on the other side either, because if there's a God
that could allow this to happen, why would I be
so excited to go there with this person like this,
who had remote control to our lives, and who could
favor that person and then hurt that person. I was
in this in between place that was neither here nor there,
and it was very upsetting for me. My mom was
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diagnosed with fibromyalgia and my grandmother had ankylosiane spondylitis. I was,
of course close to both of them, and they both
went through constant suffering and pain, and this was very
difficult for me. I was especially close with my grandma
went there for refuge to her home, and it was
very hard for me to hear her crying and go
through to the chiropractor and overhear her. I was constantly praying.
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I was constantly asking God, please, please, please. Once they
prove that they're good, can you just please bless them
and let them be free of their suffering and pain.
Sometimes we'd see certain people feel better, but a lot
of times I didn't see things get better. So I
was always praying, and I did hear a lot. If
you pray and you have faith, then the blessings come.
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I got to the point where, when I was about sixteen,
I think the concern came in from my parents. Obviously,
you know, they were concerned I was standing out in
certain ways as being kind of different. It wasn't that
I was just this depressed, morbid person going along. I
didn't like being that way. I didn't know how else
to be. I really couldn't imagine being a way where
I disconnected, because that's all I could get from people.
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They'd say, well, just don't think about it. I thought, really,
if your child is going through something that devastating, do
you just not think about it. So I was sent
to the psychiatrist as a teenager. At age sixteen, I
was diagnosed as bipolar. After I went in and the
psychiatrist handed me a worksheet, I had this fantasy that
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I would go in and this wise man with a
nice long beard would have the answers and he would
be able to explain everything to me, and he would
say the reasons why and I would get it, and
then I would say, oh, I get it, and things
would be better. But I didn't ever get that. He
just handed me the worksheet and it said things like,
are you sometimes very happy? Are you sometimes very sad?
Have you ever wanted to die? And yes, yes, yes,
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And he came back in the room and skimmed over
and he said, sounds like you're bipolar. So he sent
me out and I went and got my prescriptions for
very heavy medication and I started in the world of
being heavily medicated after that, and I felt very big difference.
It's hard to put into words, but I didn't feel
connected to maybe my heart or my passions. And in
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a way I could see like, Okay, well, maybe there's
some good to this, because I can feel that I
can't even care as much as I did before. But
it was in a number of ways. I also lost
my passion for some of the things that were beautiful
and good. And at age seventeen, I woke up one
morning and I felt that I couldn't breathe, and my
whole body felt pulverized. It was like I had been
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in an accident. In fact, I didn't know what had happened,
but I was sure something must have happened, and I
must have forgotten. I was in bed and tried to
scream because the pain was so incredible from head to toe,
and I couldn't take a breath. As soon as I
breathed into scream, I had to stop because my chest area,
the torso, was so inflamed. I didn't dare even try
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to breathe in and I just started crying. And I
was diagnosed to age seventeen with fibromyalgia, and they sent
me home on lots of pain meds for that. And
at eighteen I reached this point where I kind of
hit a wall. I don't like the feeling of these medications,
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and then of course if i'd stop, my brain would
kind of freak out because you can't just take something
that heavy and then just stop, and people would say, well, see,
you need your medications. So I was going back and
forth and really struggling, and at eighteen we had this
day where all the right factors seemed to come in
at the same point, and I did hit that place
where I couldn't take it anymore. It wasn't planned, it
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was kind of spontaneous. I just knew that I wanted
to get out, and I took every pill that I
could find. It almost felt animalistic. The way that I
reacted it was from another place, beyond a thinking place.
That wasn't where my NDE came in. But just to
give you a background of where I come from, this
is part of my background. So obviously I made it
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through that. At age twenty one, I did what I
was supposed to do. I got married and I started
having children, and I was trying to follow the list
of what you do if you have faith, if you're
doing the right things and instead of the wrong things,
and if you follow what we're taught, and so I
was trying to do everything, and I wanted so desperately
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for a change to happen with all the pain that
I was in and with everyone else, with the suffering
that I saw in the world. A prayer that I
repeated all the time was please let me be a
tool in my hands. I just wanted so badly to
help with the suffering, because I really did feel one
with it. And more than anything, I wanted, as I
wanted to believe, there was this God that had answers.
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I wanted to be a tool in his hands. And
I repeated this all the time. And I did believe
in miracles, and I wanted this to happen, so I
continued trying to do the right things and have faith.
I had four children, and all the while leading through
the pregnancies and what was going on, there were a
number of health factors that were coming in and things
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were getting worse and worse, and I got to the
point where I was crawling on the floor instead of
walking at times because it was so painful, and holding
my babies was difficult because it hurt too much to
all of them, and I was frightened because I was
also not sleeping. The pain was so intense and the
muscle spasms I was having were so intense that at
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night time I got to where I would sleep for
fifteen minutes and then I would have to wake up.
And I'm sorry, I get emotional, but I go right
back into the places that I've been, so it brings
up a lot. I would have to wake up every
fifteen minutes, and at a certain point I could feel
my brain was just going, I can't do this. It
was like I would be awake, but my brain was
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like I got to go to sleep. And so it
was a frightening feeling to be conscious and realize my
brain was just shutting down.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Here.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
I have four kids and this family, and I kept
praying to God, something has to happen. I know you're
not going to let me just actually lose my mind
with these four kids. I just want to do what's right.
I just want to do the things that I was
taught to do. And I finally hit another point, another
milestone in this journey where I couldn't pray anymore. And
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one day I just kind of hit the floor. I
just went down and landed on my knees. And I
won't get into the details of the prayer, but it
was essentially simple where I just said I know nothing.
I don't know anything anymore. I kind of just released
everything I thought. I knew all the things I believed in.
You need to believe in this and believe in that,
and this is this, and that's that. There was nothing
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anymore in my mind. I couldn't hold it all anymore
because it was too painful. I couldn't even hold on
to the belief of prayer. So I just felt my
knees and said to God, I surrender. I don't know anything,
and I'd let it all go. So shortly after this,
I was seeing the doctor checking in, and the doctor
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was saying, I'm going to give you something. Because I
was so desperate. I was saying, something awful is going
to happen because things are shutting down. I'm reaching spaces
where i can't even use my brain, and I'm really frightened.
I know if I have sleep, I can do this.
I can get through the pain. So he said, I
have something. It's not typically used for sleep or pain,
but we've found by accident that it seems to help both,
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and I want you to try this.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Going to stop here for our break because when we
get back, the series of medications she takes does lead
to her near death experience. I'm sure we can all
feel some of the pain and suffering, and Amy feels
that there is a happy outcome. So let's go to
the break and we'll be right back with the near
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death experience of Amy Call. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM
Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(13:32):
I'm Sander Champlain. We're listening to the near death experience
of Amy Call, a young woman who was diagnosed bipolar
after a few brief questions from a doctor. As a
highly sensitive woman, of course, she goes looking for answers
to her pain and suffering and gets prescribed with even
more medication, leading to her near death experience. Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I'm really frightened. I know if I have sleep, I
can do this. I can get through the pain. So
he said, I have something. It's not typically used for
sleep or pain, but we've found by accident that it
seems to help both, and I want you to try this.
I was kind of nervous because I had a history
of every medication they'd ever given me had given me problems,
and then they'd given me medications for those problems, and
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then stuff for the problems of those problems. And at
that point I was taking something for every function that
there was to wake up, to go to sleep, to
go to the bathroom. My body wasn't working anymore without
using something. So he gives me this, and I'm just thinking, oh,
one more thing that's not going to work or feel
right in me. So I went home and I shaved
off just a little and I tried it and noticed
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right away my nose was swelling up and I couldn't
breathe out of my nose, and that concerned me, and
so I went back to the doctor and said, I'm
concerned because I can't breathe out of my nose very
well when I take it. And he was kind of like, Amy,
you have a stuff. He knows. Just take the fuel holes.
You're being dramatic or whatever. He was like, trust me,
just take this three pills. So I went home. I
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was holding my youngest child. I was thirty years old.
I remember my baby at the time was three months old.
This baby had come home from the hospital with loringo Malaysia,
so her throat wasn't done developing when she had come
home from the hospital, and I was told, you can
take her home. Just keep her from crying because the
throat can kind of fold in on itself, So don't
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let the baby cry, you know, keep her from crying,
which was very stressful for me, dealing with everything I
was dealing with and having this situation where I'm suposed
to keep a newborn from crying. She was really upset
and I'm trying to soothe her and get her to
go to sleep, and I'm just so exhausted, and the
room started to get dark, and I noticed this darkness.
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It was kind of unusual the way it came in,
almost like when clouds just suddenly sweep over an area
and it gets surprisingly dark. But I was in the
middle of my house and the room just kind of
folded in almost with this darkness, and it was so
very black. And it might sound spooky, but to me,
there was something incredibly comforting happening in that it felt
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like a quilt was coming around me and everything just
went super super black. As this happened, there was a
glow that came in over me, and I realized I
could look over and see my daughter's face. Now, she
had been a really serious baby because of all the
stuff she had gone through, and we hadn't really seen
a lot of smiling or giggling, and she just suddenly
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as this glow came over, she just giggled spontaneously and smiled,
so I was able to see her smile and giggle
like that for the first time. At the same time
she did that, she closed her eyes and fell into
a really deep, RESTful sleep. The whole situation reminds me
of the cartoon I saw when I was younger, where
the blackness comes in and then at the end, the
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cartoon figure comes out and says, that's all, folks. It
was a feeling almost like that. It was beautiful and comforting,
and yet I had this feeling like it's over. I
wasn't thinking that, but there was this sense of concld
pclusion and there was a peacefulness. And I took the
baby and I went and put her in her bed,
and I went to my room. My husband was in
the opposite side of the house, in the back corner,
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and he was either reading or studying, so he was
back there. And I think it was like nine or
nine thirty, and I went in the room and I
just thought, I have to take the pills, and I'm
not going to worry about it anymore. I just need
to do what I need to do. And so I
went and laid down on the bed. I took my pills,
all three of them. It was like as soon as
I took it, I could feel I couldn't move, I
couldn't breathe through my nose, I couldn't open my mouth
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to breathe through my mouth. I couldn't breathe at all,
and I couldn't flinch my muscles. It was almost like
I was stuck, I was paralyzed or something, and so
I went, of course into a panic in my mind,
I'm not breathing, and I was acutely aware I can't breathe.
I can't breathe. I got to that point where I knew,
if I go any longer, that's it. It's over. And
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it was just this really fast spinning in my head
of this panic, like there's nothing I can do. And
there was suddenly this suction from the top of my head.
I don't know what else to say other than that
was like a suction, and I was free. So moving
on to the next part, I didn't have to breathe.
Of course, I was coming through a portal and there
were a number of other people, and it felt totally normal.
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I didn't see gold lined roads or I didn't see
angels with wings. It just was like here, except much
more intensely real. And my way of comparing this because
it's so difficult to put to words something that we
don't have strong comparisons for, as I've used TVs, like
there's the new HDTVs and we didn't know about those
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back when we had the black and white or the
fuzzy colored TVs. All we knew was the TVs we had,
but now we look back at those and it's just
almost comical. They don't compare to the TVs we have now.
And there it was just so much more real and clear,
and my mind was clear, so I didn't have a
reason to think that I was dead or that anyone
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else was. So I'm in this area as the people
are coming through. There's communication going on, but it's not
quite like here how I'm talking and everyone could understand
each other. And for some reason this also seemed completely natural.
In real life, I tend to be more intense or
high strung or maybe jumpy how I was, so I
would have thought that's how I would react, But here,
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for some reason, fear and things like that weren't a
strong factor. So there was communication going on. I saw
a man in a certain area, and I seem to
have this understanding that he was like a mentor or
a teacher, and I went to him because I wanted
to understand what was going on. And when I talked
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to this man, I used talk when we had an
understandings between us and communication. I wanted to know who
he was, and that's how I knew he was like
a mentor. I found out he died in a car accident.
He drove trucks as a profession. But what he was
there for was the factor of humility. And when he
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was there, he was able to teach in a way
the people that were in this space the importance of humility.
And this kind of humility that I could feel from him,
it wouldn't be what I would have expected prior to
my Nde. It wasn't like a bowing or a being small.
What he was acted like a tuning fork to that area,
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and it was kind of like a gift to those
who were there to be able to just feel what
that was. And I could feel it, and it was
peaceful and it was a good thing. And he explained
to me that the people that were in this space
had brought themselves to their own demce and I kind
of understood this, almost like how we understand suicide, but
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it was not necessarily how we might imagine, you know,
someone went and consciously took their life. A lot of
these situations, as I understood, were things like someone was
drunk driving and they ended up dying, or someone mixed
the wrong drugs and ended up dying or someone took
like a risk, like I'm going to jump over that
cliff and see if I make it to the other side.
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It was a little different than what I would have expected,
but at the same time I kind of understood it,
almost like from their point of view, that it was
a kind of suicide in a way. He was explaining
to me that despite what he could offer the people there,
he couldn't fully teach them because true learning happens in
the body. This is a big deal to me personally,
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because so much of my life was about wanting to
escape the body and wanting that for other people. And
I also grew up hearing you know, when you die,
you get to take off that glove and you get
to be free. With this understanding in this place that
true learning happens within the body, because when we are
in experience in this form, there's something that evolves within
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us at soul level that makes the body an important
part of whole. That it is one's good and one's bad,
but that the two worked together in an important way.
I at one point was moving to another area and
there was another man in this cross point. I just
knew for some reason that he also was someone who
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was similar to like a mentor or a type of
teacher or something. I didn't even have to ask, because
the question that was there in my mind, well, which
one is the true church? It was already in his
understanding that it was in my mind. And at the
same time that I was feeling this question, I was
in his place, seeing myself from his wisdom and knowledge
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and background. The way I saw myself asking was like
a little kid who goes up to someone with maybe
some more wisdom or knowledge. And it was as if
I were saying, so, tell me which kind of cheese
is the moon made of? Is it Jack Swiss or Cheddar.
He didn't answer me with words or or even with
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that telepathic communication. He smiled at me, and he just
lowered his head in a way that I understood he
was gonna let me wait a while until I was
ready to figure out what it was I really needed
to ask. I had a young woman come up to
me at a certain point where she was very very
close and intensely moved into my face like pay attention.
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Not that she said that, but I could feel from
her this is important. And she started saying things like
tell them this I need you to say this, I
need you to explain that. As she was giving information
about her life, personal stuff to her, and I wasn't
sure why because I didn't recognize her. I was fine
with her. I didn't feel like I needed to get away.
She seemed nice and I wanted to be polite, and
so she gave me this information about her. She was
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saying things like, tell them I'm free, tell them I'm
not in any pain. Tell them that I am happy.
I have joy now, she said, tell them that before
I went, I had started to sing, and that brought
me Joe and I really loved singing. There were just
a number of things that she was offering to me,
including this is what it felt like when I died,
and I could empathetically feel what she went through, which
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for some reason didn't bother me. I could feel it
and it was okay. And then she wanted me to
hear her singing, and so she started singing, and I
was like, yeah, she does have a really good voice.
It's a beautiful voice. So that happened, and whatever point
this was, time and space are just so strange there.
I didn't even know when I came back, what do
I say happened first, second, third, But I went back
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to the first man and I was saying, what are
these people here for? And he said, well, they're all deceased,
they're dead. And I said this in a way in
my head, I said, if they're dead, what am I?
He gave to me an understanding that I wasn't quite
the same as the rest of them. It was as
if I had some life left. But he was saying,
you're not the same as the rest of them, and
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I was like, okay, I'm out here. I just knew
I wanted to go out. So in one way, this
is the end of my ND, and I took off
and just left. But in another way, there was something
going on. And I say simultaneously, because again I don't
know where to place this, so I concluded that it
must have all happened at once, but there's an entirely
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different portion of my ND that happened.
Speaker 3 (25:21):
We're going to take our next break here, and when
we come back here about her simultaneous near death experience,
we'll be right back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast Coast, a m paranormal
podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm
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Sandra Champlain, and we just heard some of Amy Call's
near death experience. She thought it was over after spending
time with a woman who wanted to give a message
to her loved ones when she got back. Now she
moves into another experience.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
There was something going on, and I say simultaneously, because
again I don't know where to place this, so I
concluded that it must have all happened at once. But
there's an entirely different portion of my nd that happened.
And in this other part of my NDE, it wasn't
the same as that portal experience with the people you know.
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In the portal experience, I was Amy, I was my identity,
I had my connections to family, and oh my gosh,
I got to get out of here, back to where
I come from. And in the other experience, I wasn't
connected to any of it. I didn't have the stuff
that made up who I am, or I didn't have
the questions of like, well, which one is the truth?
In the other part, it was like I was just soul,
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and yet in some way I retained a being that
made up this right here, and yet I was part
of all of it, and I felt one with all
of it. And in this other part, I had my
guide with me, and I was at home with my guide,
and this part was the most comforting and beautiful experience.
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But just to go into some of it, my guide
was with me, and it was like I had access
to everything what struck me so strongly in my experience.
You know, if a teacher gets up at the front
and says, let me show you this math or let
me teach you this I was all of it. I
knew while I was these things, this math and this science,
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and this order that was in the universe. I knew
that there was nowhere that it wasn't even if there's
a tiny bug going across the room, I knew that
that was within this math and science too, in this
beautiful order. So for me, it was beyond just beautiful,
because my life before the experience, I struggled with looking
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out in the world and feeling like this really looks chaotic,
and so in my experience to be within this order
and see there was so much order, it was beyond
anything I could imagine or ever put word to. It
was incredibly beautiful and peaceful, and it's funny because also
before my experience, I couldn't stand math and science, and
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it was like this huge mental block for me. I
couldn't even get to like third grade math without just
plugging my ears. I've always struggled with spatial things, time
and space and numbers and things like that because I
was someone who had to feel everything inside of me.
So having teachers in school trying to teach me something
that I couldn't step inside of and feel or taste
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just didn't work for me. And then being in this
experience where I could feel it all. When I was
out in this part that I just say, I'm out
in the universe, I had this understanding that the way
everything worked in the universe was almost as if there
was like a big clockwork thing going on in the sky.
There was this reflection thing going on where the above
reflected everything here and here reflected there even within our
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own bodies, and I could just be part of it.
It's not that someone sat down, like I said, and
gave me all the nitty gritty details. I could feel
it and I knew it and I trusted it because
I was it and it was perfect. So that was
of course another healing thing for me. Then this other
part that I found people called life review. Growing up,
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I'd had times where my mom would say something like,
if you do something and it's not good, you're gonna
be embarrassed because you'll have to see that after you die,
and so you should be good, and things like that.
I didn't imagine it the way that it actually happened.
What happened in my life review is that it was
just powerfully loving and I felt almost like a totem
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pole way of being. In this life review where we
have at the portal, I was more identity, and then
on this other part I was just like soul and
I wasn't my identity. And in a life review, I
had this connection to the smallest part of me that
was like the little ego or whatever we want to
call it. And I had this connection also to the
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part of me that's just soul. And then I had
connection to the people on the outside all around me,
and yet I could feel the oneness as well and
all the layers of everyone and everything that was. And
then I also had a connection beyond that that was source.
And I say source a lot because it feels almost
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weird for me to use God since my end, because
it feels almost like I'm narrowing it. But I understand
we need words here, so I say both. But I
was connected to source as well, and it all came
together in my life review, and I could feel everyone,
and I could feel myself and I had compassion on
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my soul and other people, the way as parents when
we have a toddler or two toddlers say they're playing
and one gets mad and pulls the block from the other,
and we're not thinking of that toddler, you're evil or
you're bad, or now you're not going to make it
to heaven, you know, or or if your toddler runs
down the hallway and trips and falls, it's not I'm
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going to write that one down. I just understood everyone
like children, and I wanted for everyone, including myself, And
in that life review, I was able to feel for
myself the way we would feel for our own children.
And I had this compassion for myself where I wanted
for myself to be happier and to do better, not
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as in get the higher grade, but just to be happier,
that kind of better, like have fun, lighting up, It's okay,
you know and in this experience in a life review,
I had someone in my life who I thought was
my enemy, and this person came up in the life
review and I didn't even realize. It's not that I
consciously I should say of enemy, but I saw her
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and I had judgments in my mind. You know, she's
so bad from what I had experienced, and I didn't
realize that I had held that in me. And in
the life review, I connected with this person and that
was probably the most powerful feeling of love. And my
whole ENDE was when I was able to connect with
who she really is beyond all of the things I
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thought I knew about her and the judgments that I made,
And it doesn't condone what had happened what I had seen,
but the love that I felt from the source coming
through at all the different levels and being able to
see her and who she really is and what she's
connected to was another mind blowing thing for me. And
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so after my NDE, I came back and immediately was
just it was a big relief. I was sobbing and
just all this stuff coming out, and I could almost
feel like my body physically was changing because I had
this love for her. That was like the love that
you would feel for a firstborn child. I just loved
her so much. So that was another part. Then I
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had a part where it was like I was getting downloading.
I saw the planet come in. This was the planet Earth.
I saw letters above the planet and capitals. It was
nov A Ta. This is Novata. And when I saw this,
I heard a voice that was saying the seven days
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of the week. It was in Spanish, I understood, but
it was doing the seven days of the week. And
then I heard prepare for the seventh day. I ended
up going around the planet, and as I went around
the planet, I could feel the energies and frequencies of
all the different countries in every place. I could feel
that each place had its own kind of frequency or
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spirit about it that was special to that place. And
yet I could also feel how they were interconnected, and
it was this important whole that was needed for the
whole planet. But it was very interesting for me to
feel that not only did a country have its own frequency,
but then you know places within the country had their own,
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and then you know cities within that and even neighborhoods,
and at every level that everything was interconnected and yet
special at the same time. So I had this going on,
and then I had this understanding coming in that this
was one thing that actually did come in words. I
had very little that I could bring back that I
could say, and it said this. But one thing I
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kept getting that repeated even after I came back, was
come back to the Earth. My understanding was with how
it was communicated to me, was that there was something
with the food on the planet, that it was not
in purest form, and that it needed to come back
to its pure state, and that this was very important.
And I understood the word tainted. I had been, of course,
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in so much physical pain for so long. When I
did come back, right away everything changed. It was in
instantly I started eating much more simple, more pure. I
didn't really know there was a thing such as food
that has been mutated or changed, but I was trying
to get food in its most pure form. And I've
stuck with that ever since. I've been eating very simply,
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more pure, and that's something that's helped me a lot.
Like I said, I didn't know what Novada meant, and
I wanted to mention in case I forget that I
did have someone who contacted me who read my near
death experience online, and she said, I wanted to tell
you that I looked up what novoda is and she
told me that it means new birth or new beginning. Now,
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when I saw the planet, the colors on the planet
were intense, but I've already explained that on that side,
the colors are way more clear and intense, and this
is kind of the blurry place. This is the black
and white TV realm. And there it was just like
it is as it really is. So the planet was
just beautiful. And when I saw the planet, there was
an overlay, almost like a different layer or dimension to it.
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But I could see there was an eye, and when
I first saw it, it was closed, but it was
in the process of opening over the planet. It was
just one eye encompassing the planet. And I saw the
planet as a being. I knew it as a being,
and so this is how I see the planet still,
that it's a being, and so it's important to me.
(36:21):
Now I hadn't seen it that way before, so that's
something that's special to me. I saw different planets different moons.
I saw one planet that was completely covered in water,
and then the planet comes up right in front of me,
and my guide says that it's time to go back.
And when my guide tells me that it's time to
go back, I almost felt like a rupturing in my
(36:44):
being at just the idea of separating from what this
situation was. It was like, there's no possibility there. It
didn't matter. I wasn't going back. But what was so painful,
and I say painful, It sounds weird, but yes, I
felt agony. What was so painful was just the idea
of division, separation, and I felt a feeling like if
(37:06):
I were glass. It felt like the glass shattered and
I was shattering. I was wailing, but it was so deep.
It was like if I were in the physical body.
I would say every cell in my body seemed to
be in agony and crying out. It was like a
moaning and it couldn't even get it out because it
was so powerful. It was almost like an implosion. My
(37:27):
guide said, look to your left, and so I looked
to my left, and my four year old daughter was
being brought to me. A guide was with her, and
she was being brought to me, and she comes up
to me over here, and she just kind of reaches
up to me and does like a tugging thing, which
of course brings me back in this experience to identity
(37:49):
rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's my
daughter and she's saying, mommy, but who will take care
of us? And she's smiling.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
We have to take a break, and I promise pick
up right where we left off. You're listening to Shades
of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast
AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(38:31):
I'm Sandras Champlain and we're hearing the near death experience
of Amy. Call now if you can stay with me
to the end, I want to share a miracle that's
just happened to me and it relates to something that
she shared in this near death experience. So, last we
left Amy, it was time for her to return to earth,
(38:52):
but she didn't want to. Let's continue.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
My guide said look to your left, and so I
looked to my left and my four year old daughter
was being brought to me. A guide was with her,
and she was being brought to me and she comes
up to me over here and she just kind of
reaches up to me and does like a tugging thing,
which of course brings me back in this experience, to
(39:16):
identity rather than this whole lack of attachments. Suddenly there's
my daughter and she's saying, Mommy, but who will take
care of us? And she's smiling. Before she could even
finish asking me, I was saying, of course I will.
And I don't see myself as saying that at the
level I'm at right now. What I'm trying to say
(39:36):
is that on my own, I don't believe that I
would have said that, because in the place I was in,
I knew everything was okay. I didn't need to go back,
And even if someone had said, hey, remember your family,
do you want to go back, I would have said,
they're fine, I'm going to stay. But when she specifically
asked me, it was this call because in that place
I was so connected to the source and the higher
(39:59):
love and everything that was there that was so powerful,
and I was one with it that was coming through
as part of who or what I was that helped answer.
So in that place, it was the love that was
coming through, the divine love that said, of course I will.
The guide took my daughter back and just still trying
(40:20):
to come to terms with I'm leaving this place was
still so difficult. This pain was still coming through. And
my guide says, look to your right. So I looked
to my right, and there's a holographic image and it's
a living holographic image. It's not a movie or something
made up. It was my mom and it was my
mom in the future. And I could see that she
(40:42):
was fragile, and I could see that she was struggling
and she wasn't having an easy time. And my mom
comes from a time period where people did their hair
well and they dressed really well, fifties girl, and I
could see that she had like a little hair here
and there, and I was thinking, oh my gosh, my
mom would not be okay with that, and I just
wanted to be there for her. Like naturally, I wanted
(41:04):
to help her because I know what it is that
my mom cares about. And I moved toward this holograph
of my mom, and I felt myself willing myself to
go forward. In doing this, I understood that there was
a level of what I am and what I come
from that did want to go back. It was just
hard in a certain part of me to understand that
(41:25):
there was a higher will, that's part of me that
did want to go back. So I did understand, but
still continued with the crying, like how do I actually
just go because I couldn't imagine doing bad action and
going and there's the planet waiting for me. So I'm
still in this deep crying and my guide says very well,
(41:47):
and then it was like there was a spin of
a vortex spinning and it comes to me and we
became one. I knew that my guide and I were one,
and I got put your finger out reach toward the planet,
and so I'm of course, this is the first time
in that part of my experience coming to the idea
(42:07):
of body again, other than my daughter reaching toward me
and reminding me. I reached forward and it was like
I could see the outer form of the tip of
my finger as I reached toward the planet, and there
was like an electrical zipline or something that just shot
out at my fingertip. There was just an immediate section.
(42:28):
It was just instant. And then I was back and
I'm in my bedroom and I have my guide still
with me, but I couldn't connect to my body. I
could see that my body was in the bed, and
at this point my husband is next to my body,
and I'm trying to get in my body, and I
couldn't feel anything, and I got this panic because I
(42:50):
wasn't back there where I was, which was so awesome,
and I'm not feeling safe back in my body, and
so of course I'm getting frantic. I don't know what
to do. And I feel my guide go through the throat,
go through the throat, and so all I can feel
of myself is that I'm energy and my consciousness. So
I start blasting myself over and over through the throat
(43:11):
of my body. And I just keep doing this, throwing
my energy through the throat, and then I see my
jaw drop and this kind of like a grown noise,
almost like a toad, just like air passed, a little
bit of air pass out of the mouth, just enough
to make the slightest low sound. And my husband says Amy,
(43:33):
And I just kept doing this, throwing my energy through
the throat, and then he says Amy again, this time
reaching over, and then he kind of jumps up, and
I see him running to the light switch and he
flips it on, and he's running over and he looks
at me, and his face just looked like it turned
to wax, and there were beads of sweat that just
instantly formed around his hairline. And I don't know where
(43:56):
I was that I could look at all of this,
but I was looking at this and he's grabbed me
and he's saying Amy, Amy over and over and shaking
the body and trying to lift it, and I was surprised.
I remember being really surprised, like why is it so
hard for him to lift because he's pretty strong, big guy,
and it would be easy to lift me, but he
was really having a hard time, like lifting the body,
but he was, you know, shaking and shaking, and I
(44:18):
just had this understanding that with his hands on my body,
it's going to be okay because he's like a cable line,
the physical body connecting to my body would send what
was needed through. So at this point I just relaxed
and waited for this to happen because it was what
I was being given. And then sure enough, as he
was doing this, that was the first thing I could
(44:39):
physically feel was the electricity was running all over the
top of my skin, coming from his hands from head
to toe. It finally covered me, and then I started
connecting with this electricity. That's what I connected with, and
then I was in my body. After this experience, of course,
my husband's asking what happened and things like that, and
it was just too much and I did don't know
(45:00):
how to begin or what words to use. So he
just kept saying, We've got to write it down. You've
got to write it down. And I hesitated because I
just thought I know how this sounds. So I hesitated
for many, many years. But after this experience, I went
right away to church, and my husband was surprised because
he was saying, you know, you'd think after something like that,
you'd be in bed for two weeks. I was very
determined to get to church. And it wasn't because I
(45:23):
needed to go to church. It was like there was
something that was telling me you have to be there.
There's something going on, you have to be there. It
was one of those things where it's just you get
a feeling you're supposed to be somewhere, and so I
told him, no, there's something that's going to happen. I
have to be in whatever this is that's going to happen.
By the way, right after my experience. My husband was
kind of freaking out, like do I call nine one one?
(45:44):
What do we need to do? What's happening, you know?
And I was totally adamant, There's no way you're calling anyone.
I'm not going to a doctor. I don't need to
ask a doctor if I'm okay. I was totally sure
that I was okay. I was more okay than ever,
So there's no way that I was going to let
him call a doctor or anyone. So going back to
going to church, I showed up there and not sure
(46:06):
what I was doing, and I sat down, and then
at the part of church where they're passing bread and
the water, I felt right then, a very strong, very powerful,
like right now, this is it, Get up and go out.
I didn't know why, but I was still very much
with my guide, stood up and left and out in
(46:26):
the main area, there was a woman sitting in a
love seat and she was crying, very heavily crying, and
she was surrounded by a number of people who were
comforting her and hugging her. And I still wasn't sure
exactly what I was going to be doing with her,
so I kind of walked off down the hall and
took a break and waited for a little bit, came back,
(46:47):
and then when I came back to her, she didn't
have the people around her, so I was able to
ask her what was going on, and she said that
she just found out that her daughter had died, and
I right away got this flash like oh, But I
didn't want to say any thing weird. It wasn't appropriate
for me to say anything at that point, and I
didn't know for sure, so I actually invited her. I said,
do you want to come back to my house tomorrow?
(47:09):
And I knew very specifically what the young woman looked
like in my experience. She had a very unusual look
and the coloring in her hair and eyes. So I said,
do you feel like you could come talk to me
about it tomorrow? And she said yes, And I was
surprised that she was open about that, And I said,
could you bring a photo, because I figured, you know,
if it's not her, I still would want to be
there for her, and if it is, then we might
(47:30):
have something to talk about. So she came and she
brought a black and white photo. Even with a black
and white photo, I knew right away that it was
that young woman and I said to her, did your
daughter have like an unusual red coloring in her hair,
the really unusual color red? And she said yes. And
I described her eyes then, the unusual color of her eyes,
and she was surprised, yes. And then I was able
(47:53):
to say what happened. I was able to explain to
the lady what happened in my experience, which was comforting
for her. I was able to give information on the
death and anyway, that's basically my experience.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
That's the end of the recording with Amy. She has
not gone on to write a book or be famous.
She's just one of the many thousands of people that
share their story through ians dot org. Again, that's our
friends at the International Association for Near Death Studies. When
Amy spoke of having compassion on ourselves and then having
(48:28):
compassion on others, I believe we've all made judgments about
other people, making them right or wrong. And it was
around fifteen years ago with the passing of my dad
that my siblings outcast me, not being able to see
them or their children. It led me into deep grief,
(48:48):
deep depression. Ultimately, learning about grief, I went on to
write my book and I'm here with you now host
of shades of the afterlife all because of that. But internally,
have I made them wrong? Yes, but I've also blessed
them because I'm here with you today. So the miracle
(49:09):
is these kids that I hadn't seen in fifteen years
have just taken a trip to visit my mom and myself.
They spent four days with us, and I am one
of the happiest girls on the planet. They missed us
as much as we missed them, and we all agreed
there's going to be a great future ahead for us
(49:29):
as family. And after listening to this episode, I will
do my best to look at those who I may
have disagreements with through the eyes of a loving parent
or through the source and be understanding. I also want
to remind each of us to have compassion on ourselves.
It's tough being human. We're doing the best we can,
(49:50):
but you never know when something we think is negative
could turn into the best thing that's ever happened to us,
which is what happened to me. Without things going exactly
the way they did, I wouldn't be here with you today.
As a reminder, come visit me Atweedo'tdie dot com. That's
my home base. Get a free copy of my book
(50:12):
if you enter your name and email address at the
bottom of the page. Come to our free Sunday gathering
with medium demonstration included, and try one of our new classes.
In closing, this is Sandra Champlain and I'm always so
happy to be your host. Thank you for listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to
(50:35):
Coast AM Paranormal podcast Network.
Speaker 2 (50:43):
Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Ghost
Day and Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out
all our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going
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Host
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