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your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Hi,
I'm Sandra Champlain. For over twenty five years, I've been
on a journey to prove the existence of life after death.
On each episode, and we'll discuss the reasons we now
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know that our loved ones have survived physical death and
so will we Welcome to Shades of the Afterlife today.
I thought you might be interested in hearing from Simon
boun He is a podcast host, author of the new
book Verified Near Death Experiences, proof of an afterlife. He's
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also a clinical hypnotherapist who deals with past life regressions.
You can find out more about Simon at his website
Past lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk. Let's dive right
in and hear his story.
Speaker 3 (01:41):
I was ten years old and I was fascinated by
all sorts of supernatural things. Like ten years old, I'd
read books on Bigfoot and UFOs and ghosts. And as
I got older, I kind of got more into two
different streams of interest, which was the afterlife and UFOs,
and I was reading books like in the eighties, I
would read Shirley McLean's books, so I would read Raymond
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Moody's books and all sorts of things, and I was
having my own experiences. I used to go to the
College of Psychic Studies in London in the nineteen eighties,
and not as a student, but they had people who
were students there learning mediumship, channeling, psychic staff past life regression,
and so I'd go every couple of weeks and pay
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a little bit of money and the students there could
practice on you. And that's where I was taken through
a past life regression, my first one at nineteen eighty seven,
and so over time I went through other past life
regressions and I got to a point where I thought
I wanted to do this myself for people. So I
got a diploma in clinical hypnotherapy and then the certification
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in Past life regression therapy. So I've been taking people
through these kind of sessions, done hundreds of them now.
But I've also had my own experiences, one with the
feathers showing up really unexpectedly as saw UFOs. A couple
of times, I've had psychic flashes, and I thought I'd
try it out myself making a podcast. And as I'm
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a musician, I had loads of recording software at home.
I knew how to record a band and recording yourself
just talking piece of cake. So I was very lucky.
And right from the beginning, I'd email people and so
you'd be a guest on my podcast, and I said yes,
And here we are, eight hundred episodes later, and I'm
still fascinated and excited to do it, and there's so
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much more to learn. Kind of sum it up as
that I've read a lot, I've had a lot of experiences.
I've talked to a lot of people. One of the
things I'm most interested in when I'm doing my podcast
is the near death experiences where there's some kind of
verified information where you would have somebody who is dead
effectively maybe on the operating table, and they can see
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that they're hard to stop, the brain has flatlined, but
they can come back after resuscitation and describe things that
happened while they were dead, and people say, yes, that
did happen, but you couldn't have seen it, and they said, no,
I was up there at the ceiling looking down on it.
And basically that's what my book's all about, is those
verification events. But it goes further than that because some
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of the events they see are nowhere near their body.
There could be in another part of the hospital, or
they could be miles away from wherever they are, and
I think for materialists to skeptics, it's very hard to
argue or come up with some reason how they could
know that thing that happened while they were dead when
it happened seven kilometers away.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Would you mind sharing some of these stories just to
give us an idea, a little story.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
Time with Simon. Yeah, Tybor puk Knock. He was a
Hungarian man in the early nineties. He went into the
hospital and he had very very high blood pressure, and
the doctors were very worried about him. And so one
day he starts having this pain in his chest and
then suddenly he finds himself standing in the world with
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all these beds around him, and he felt fantastic and
he thought, this is great, I'm cured. And these nurses
are running past him and a doctor and they crowded
around this bed and he's looking back and going, it
must be a real VIP patient to get so much attention.
And on the side of the ward there's a room
where the nurses prepare all sorts of things, and it
has a two way mirror, so the nurses can see
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in the ward, but you can't see in from the ward.
So that's one thing. He couldn't see what is going
on in that room if you wanted to. And he
thought about that room, and then again in an instant
he's inside that room. There's a nurse with a trolley
at a cabinet and she's getting all these bits and
pieces out and putting them onto a trolley, and she
dropped one and it went under the cabinet and Tyber
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wonders what is that thing? And suddenly, in an instant,
he's like four inches away from this object that's underneath
the cabinet, and he read the label of what it
is and the serial number, and then suddenly he sprung
back out again. And there's an nurse on the phone
and she's talking her husband, who's a home in their apartment,
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about finding the doctor's number because their children are ill.
You know, it's the early nineties. They've got their own
paper phone book. They write the numbers down in and
she's say, no, no, it's in there. You just got
to look at it's written in red. And he's getting frustrated,
and Tyber's listening to this whole conversation. Then again he's
teleported and he's in the apartment with the guy who's
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on the phone, and so Tibor can see everything there,
the furniture, the books on the shelves. He said, the
carpet was really nice and deep. And the man's wearing
these socks with these little animal pictures on them, and
Tiber said, he said to himself, what kind of a
man wears socks like these? You know, all sorts of
things happen to Tyber or as I explained it in
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my book. After that, he goes to this place where
he has a life review and those kind of spiritual
things happen, and then he's back in the hospital and
he realizes it's him in the bed that they're trying
to resuscitate. The nurse comes rushing past with the trolley
and he tries to stop her. Hose like, no, leave
me alone, I'm fine, don't resuscitate me. Obviously, he comes
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back to life, and when he stabilized, the doctor comes
to him. He says, that you were dead for nine minutes.
What happened? And so Tyboll starts explaining it on the doctor.
He goes into the nurses room, looks under the cabinet
and there's that thing, exactly as Tiber described it. He
even got the serial number correct on the box. And
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they found the nurse that was on the phone, and
she confirms the phone call what the content of the
phone call was. Now doctor says, do you know this man?
Has he ever been to your apartment? She's like, no,
he's never been there. So the nurse takes the doctor
to the apartment and he sees it's exactly as Tybell
described it. And when he returns to the hospital, he's
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holding those socks in his hand. The content of the
phone call, what the apartment looks like, the man sucks
or so the nurse could confirm that the time of
the phone call was also the time that CPR was
happening on tibor. Because he was dead, they were trying
to resuscitate him, so they could sort of look at
the timings and how they match up there. I really
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like that case because there's all these different levels to it.
It's not just one verification event.
Speaker 1 (08:16):
It must have taken a lot of work to investigate these.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
A lot of the people in the book have been
guests on my podcast, and so I was able to
interview them and quiz them about their whole experience. And
I find a lot of near death experiences have these
verification events but don't really talk about them. It's almost
like they've come back with a mission that's about spirituality
and unconditional love. They're kind of bringing that message back,
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saying we shouldn't be so judgmental and we should have
more empathy. It's almost like, towards the end of the interview,
I say, do you have anything that was verified? They go, oh, yeah, sure,
and then they start talking about it. I think twenty
four of the people in my book were guests on
my podcast, and so I was able to is them
about these verifications, and then I did further zoom calls
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with them to go over it again. And before my
book was published, I sent them each chapter that they're
featured in, and they were able to go through them
and then email me back and say if there was
anything that was a little inaccurate or how good the
chapter was. So it's not just a thing when I
kind of did research and read books. I actually talked
to these people and they confirmed that what I've put
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in the book is accurate. So that was one of
the ways that I found these people. And I've talked
to so many people on my podcast, you know what
it's like. And then there was some famous cases that
I really liked, like Pamela Reynolds and there's the Maria's
shoecase with the shoe on the hospital roof. There's one
from Raymond Moody in there about a boy who talks
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about how the room where he was born had pink
walls and the parents didn't believe him, and eventually they
run the hospital that confirmed the walls in that room
were pink. They'd run out of all the other paint colors.
That's all they had lefts I had to paint the
room pink. And there's a book that's called something like
the Phenomena of Astral Projection and that was published in
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nineteen fifty one, and that has loads of little cases
in it. And then there's a guy, mister Ogsten, who
was in the British Army in the Victorian period and
he was in the battle and he got injured in
France and died, and he went home and saw his
wife in England and he thought it was a dream,
but when he talked to her, she confirmed that what
he had seen had happened. So, you know, you kind
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of pick up all these different things. And there's a
case in there from the Journal of the International Association
of Near Death Studies. There's a great case there that
I picked up, and Jan Holden, who runs that, gave
me permission to put it in my book. So you know,
it's the thing. You've got to start trying to find
things from different places as well as the people you
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talk to.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
What are some of the common threads of these near
death experiences with verifications.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
There's the one where they'll see something happen and that
can be confirmed. There's a lot of them talk about
they might go somewhere away from the hospital, or they
might go to another part of the hospital where their
family is and their friends. There's one lady who was
suddenly in the car with her sister as a sister
was driving to the hospital, and she could hear her
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sister's thoughts and she said, our sister's not at all religious,
but in her mind she was praying for her. And
that's another kind of thing that they talk about, is
that they can hear the thoughts of their family and
their friends. And there was another guy where his mum
was on the phone to his uncle and his uncle
was driving his family to California for a vacation. He
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could hear their thoughts as well as their conversation, and
about how in the car the uncle said to his children,
we've got to turn around, go back to the hospital.
We can't go to California, and how the children were like,
oh no, we got a no doubt, let's go to California.
We don't want to go to the hospital. He could
confirm all that was correct, and that they confirmed that
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what they were thinking was correct. It wasn't just what
he heard. Then there's other things when people do things
which are verified. You know. The other commonalities is with
the life review that are in a lot of the chapters,
because each chapter features a different person and it goes
through their whole near death experience. It's not just verification events.
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And the life reviews come up in all sorts of
different ways, but it has the same effect on them.
There's one it's like it's a bubble all around him,
all these things going on, and then somebody else saw
it like on a table and it was a hologram
on a table. And somebody else said they had this
big box and they looked inside it and all these
things were happening in there. But it's still the same
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emotional impact of the feeling you get of when you're
mean to somebody and you feel what that's like to
be mean, and how that is a ripple effect.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Let's take a quick break and we'll hear more stories
when we get back. You're listening to Shades of the
Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a m
paranormal Podcast Network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
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I'm Sandra Champlain and we're here with Simon Boun, past
life regressionist and author of the new book Verified Near
Death Experiences. He was just talking about the life review
and experiencing your actions from the other person's perspective. Let's continue.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's still the same emotional impact of the feeling you
get of when you're mean to somebody and you feel
what that's like to be mean, and how that is
a ripple of where that person that you've been mean
to you might feel bad, and then they might be
mean to someone else and you feel that all of that.
I think that's one of the most powerful things with
a near death experience. That's why it changes people so much.
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There was one thing that showed up. I think three
people in my book talk about being in this incredible
kind of heavenly landscape and they're with a spirit guide
or a spiritual being, and they're taken to this enormous
white building that's just incredibly grand and huge and beautiful,
and it's like a library place of knowledge where all
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these spirits go to study. And it's almost like those people,
those souls, their heaven is going to university studying something,
and they're taken it to this place, and one of
the people said they saw people coming and going in
all sorts of period costumes. Some were dressed as romans,
some medieval, some modern times. And you get to the building,
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one of them said, and it's just a wall, and
then a door will open up in the wall and
you'll get through into the room that's exactly the one
you need. And the spirit guide said something like the
building matches your frequency with the room's frequency to know
where you're going to go. And one of the people
was taken into this building for their life review, but
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they describe it as being so big you can't see
the other end of the building when you're inside it,
and it's floor to ceiling shelves full of books and
scrolls and things, and it kind of makes me think
of the Akashak records or something like that. So, yeah,
that's another one of the commonalities I did find some
where people were in their near death experience. And you know,
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hear so much about it's all love and light and wonderful,
but there's one of them says to me, she was
in this light space towards the end of her near
death experience. It's just white, you know. You people talk
about the black void. This is almost like a white void.
And somebody came in and said, what are you doing here?
And she's like, I don't know, because Joe, you shouldn't
be here. You shouldn't go back. He is, I don't
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know what I'm doing. And this woman's saying, we don't
be ridiculous. Of course you know what you're doing. And
she had to convince her that, you know, she's not
in control of her near death experience like this. There
was another guy called Randy Schaeffer. He went into this city,
this incredible city. These buildings are like nothing you see
on earth. It's so amazing. And there was this stairway
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just going up into the clouds and he started climbing it.
And this happened to him twice, and he heard this
voice suddenly say, look there's Randy. Get him. And he
felt a tug on his thing and then he was
out and he was in a coma. So he had
four different kind of periods of near death experience. And
the next time he was there, he's climbing up the
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stairs again. You heard this voice get him, and he
looked round and there was this guy in this white
robe with a white sash, long white beard, and long
white hair. He was the guy for some reason grabbing
him and pulling him back. But there's a great verification
with Brandy, and that's a really good story. So there's
some of the commonalities that come up.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
It sounds fascinating when we cross over that there is
going to be the most incredible adventure, but certainly something
pulled these people back. Is there a sense of the
value of being here on Earth versus the other side.
Speaker 3 (17:25):
There's always that thing where people say it's so amazing
to be in that space that they don't really want
to come back. And you hear from people they've got
small children on Earth and their husband's there, and they
might think, if I don't go back, there's no way
my husband's going to manage. But they're still like, no,
I don't want to go back. I'm going to stay here.
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And it's like the spirit guides or whoever have to
force them to go back or really talk them into it.
Then there's other people who will say, no, I do
have to go back. I don't want to really, but
I've got to look after my children, or I've got
to do this, I've got to do that. So people
do come back also feeling that they've come back with
a mission. They've got a job to do about communicating
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this space that they went to, and that there is
life after death. From a reincarnation point of view, you
come here to learn lessons. That's why you incarnate. So
there's value to it from that side of things. But
with near death experiences, I suppose there's a few distressing
ones where people definitely don't want to be in the
near death experience and they want to get out of there.
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With Howard Storm, he was in a really nasty place
and he started saying a prayer and he was lifted
out of that into the light and came back and
he was an atheist and now after that he's become
a pastor. So yeah, the value of coming back, it's
a hard one to answer, really, because it seems to
me that if I was on the other side in
that amazing space, I wouldn't want to come back either.
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You know, I've got my children. I probably would come
back and then talk about it on my podcast, so
no of them would believe me, because that's my podcasts
all about that's funny.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I personally think that if the afterlife is good all
of the time, we can create wonderful things. Visit the
halls of learning or wherever that may be, that there's
value for living with our five senses that we have
here now, and we learn from negative things. And what
people learn so much with their near death experiences is
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they want to come back and they want to be
of service. So if we can start that ball rolling,
even have a life review before we go to sleep
at night, right, you know, we can prevent having maybe
that in such a deep way when we get there.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
Yeah, that full lifelong life review. If you do it
every day here, then it would only be little snippets.
It wouldn't be so bad.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
Would you share the stories of Pam Reynolds? And also
the one with the shoe that's a Maria, right.
Speaker 3 (19:55):
Yeah, that's the short one in my book. That one's
quite well known. It's Maria was in the hospital and
she passed away. When she came back, she talked about
a tennis shoe on the roof of the hospital. She
talked about the scuff marks on it, the angle it
was sitting, and a nurse called Kimberly Clark went up
to the roof and found that tennis shoe. She could
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tell that you cannot see it from being on the ground.
You cannot see it from any hospital windows. How on
earth did Maria know about the shoe and describe it
so accurately. That's a great case. And was you asking
about Randy Scheffer and the things that happened with him? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And Hels mentioned Pam Reynolds too.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
Oh yeah, Pam Reynolds. She had an aneurysm at the
base of her brain done at the back here at
the bottom. And she saw one neurosurgeon who says, there's
nothing he can do. You should prepare yourself. You've only
got a few months. And she sought out a second opinion.
This was the early nineties, and she found Dr Robert Spetzler,
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this neurosurgeon. The new technique that he developed, which is
to do a kind of hypothermic freezing of the body
before you do the operation. So what they would do
is make the body really really cold, and they would
stop your heart and your head would flatline your brain,
and they do all that on purpose, and then it
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would be much safer to operate on their aneurysm and
remove it, and they were pumping like they put on
a bypass machine, and they were taking her blood and
putting it back in, so it's much colder. She went
in and they put under general anesthetic. Now one of
the things is that in that operation, I think in
most as well, is they close your eyes and they
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tape them closed, so she couldn't have seen anything if
she was still conscious. Another thing is they put these
specially molded ear plugs in, and this is the early nineties.
They're not like earbuds like we have today. They were
made specifically for her ears. And they played these really
rapid clicking noises into these things at ninety six decibels,
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which is almost like standing next to a speeding train.
It's so loud, and it was very rapid. It's maybe
fifteen twenty clicks per second. There's no way she could
hear anything while those are in her ears. So she
found herself hovering over the operation, watching what's happening. And
they got out this special saw to cut into her
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skull and they were using that, and then she went
on to go to another space and had a spiritual
meeting with her family and they gave us some healing
while she was in that space, and then she came
back and they were carrying on with the operation and
a conversation, and there's some music playing in the background,
which she thought, I didn't know they did that in
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appraising theaters just have the radio on while they're doing
this stuff. Her uncle's with her deceased uncle looking down
at the body, and she's thinking, I don't want to
go back. My body's in a terrible state. Why would
anybody want to return to this? And he said, no, no,
don't worry about it. It's just like jumping into a
swimming pool. And she's like, no, I don't want to
go back, and he says it was like he pushed her.
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She felt this definite shove and it was like jumping
into a swimming pool. A body was so cold. When
she was resuscitated, and you know, she's back to stability.
She was able to tell them, you know, I heard
you listening. You were listening to Hotel California by the Eagles,
and I felt a little annoyed because there was the
line you can check out, but you can never leave.
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She's told them what they were talking about. There was
a point where they needed to get a really nice
vein or artery as to something they would patch in here.
And they took it from her leg and the nurse
that was going to get it said to the doctor,
they're too small. It's not going to work, and he said,
try the other leg. That was accurate, and they know
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that her brain was flatlined when these things were going on.
And she accurately described the bone saw, where she described
as looking like an electric toothbrush, and that's exactly what
it is. It's like got a a thing sticking out
the top with a circular saw and you press the
button and it spins, and that's how they would cut
into the bone. And she described the case it was
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in and all the attachments, and she said it like
a socket set you'd have for your car. And the
thing is, when she was taken into the operating theater,
all that stuff was covered with a cloth to keep
it sterile, so she couldn't have seen it. Also, as
I said, she had the specially molded earplugs in, so
she couldn't have heard the music, she couldn't have heard
the conversation. She couldn't have seen anything even if she
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was awake. So I think that's a really great case
because there's so many things that happened while they can
be sure she was dead, because basically they killed her.
And I've heard that there's a researcher who's really great
for this stuff, Samparneer. I think it is they took
her through in the early nineties of freezing the person
and shutting them down, like they call it standstill. That's
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more of a common technique now, and I think Sampanier
wants to go where those operations are happening and to
set up something to see if the near death experiencer
will see something in the room while they can be
sure that their body is dead. And I think he's
called the Aware Study three that he's trying to get together.
You know, you've got to go through those ethics boards
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and things and get permissions.
Speaker 1 (25:23):
More stories when we get back, plus talk of past
life regressions and spirit guides. You're listening to Shades of
the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a
paranormal podcast network. Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife.
(25:58):
I'm Sandra Champlain here with Simon and Bound talking about
verified and near death experiences. Simon, you mentioned Randy. Is
that another verified experience?
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Yeah, that's a great one. This was at the beginning
of COVID. Randy felt very ill and he went to
the doctor and asked for a COVID test and the
doctor said, no, we don't have it in this area.
You've probably just got the flu. And he went home
and you got worse and worse. Saw the doctor again
and again the doctor refused the COVID test, and then
his daughter came to see him and saw how bad
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he was and called her sister, who was a nurse,
and the nurse said, get him to hospital now, and
they did an xtray on his lungs and they had
what they called the typical glass opacities of COVID. And
then the COVID test came back positive and it deteriorated
really fast, and his family were told he had a
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three percent chance of recovering. And that's when he went
into a coma. You know, they took him into the coma.
It wasn't natural. That's when he had these four different
instances of near death experiences. And the first one, he
found himself in this amazing hall and he's up on
a kind of mezzanine level, looking down at this hall
and this man standing next to him and saying, this
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is my favorite room. And Randy's like, why this is
called the welcoming room. And then he turned to Randy
and said, but you're not supposed to be here. You
have to leave. So that's when Randy left that amazing
building and was in that incredible city where he went
up the stairway, and that happened twice. And he was
in that city and there was an incident where he
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found himself on this dirt pathway and there was this
little boy there, maybe ten years old, just wearing shorts
and jumping around, and it's out in the woods, so
there's trees around them and these incredible plants, and the
boys like, come with me, Come with me. And he
takes him to this big house and they go inside
and there's this big window looking out over a river,
and there's all these people swimming and sitting on the
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bank talking and the little boy says, I'll be back
in a minute, and so Randy's sitting there, he said,
in this red velvet chair looking out this window. Everything's
so nice. And then the boy comes back says, your
room's not ready. You've got to go back and around,
but I want to stay here. And the little boys,
I'm sorry, your room's not ready. And he's kind of
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sent into this space where he's coming back, and suddenly
this face appears, and it's this man with a mustache,
and he's saying, tell Madison at the salon, I'm okay.
Tell Madison at the salon, I'm okay. And then he
got this picture of this man on this white porch
outside the house with all these red, white and blue
ribbons and flags. The word veteran kept repeating in his head.
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Came back and he had this miraculous recovery where over
the Easter weekend, from Easter Friday till Monday, he came
almost back and they could get him out of the coma,
take him off the intubation and the ventilator and all
the drugs. It's one of these things we hear, isn't it.
Miraculous recoveries. So he's at home a few months later
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and the COVID lockdown's starting to go. People are allowed out,
and he wants a haircut and he finds this business
card and gives it to his daughter and say, well,
you book me a haircut, and his daughter looks say,
he goes, Dad, this is Madison at the salon. It
says Madison on the card. So they booked the haircut
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and he's sitting there with Madison and he starts telling
her about his experience and she starts crying, and from
his description, she said, that was my grandfather. He died
a year ago and his name was John. So Randy's saying,
I saw a white porch with these flags and the
word veteran, and she said, yeah, he's a veteran and
he was part of the association and every year he'd
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to help out with the flags and he used to
love sitting on that white porch. It's like Madison's crying
and Randy's crying. She gives him her grandmother's number, and
Randy asked, Madison, are they round here? Could I have
seen him in the street and that's kind of where
it came from, but she said no, they lived a
thousand miles away. So he called Kathy, who was Madison's grandmother,
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and talked to her about this guy John, and she
sent him a photograph and there he is, That's exactly him.
And they became friends. And it ended up Randy went
to the house and sat on that porch where John
would sit at the white porch, exactly as he'd seen
it in the near death experience. So Kathy says to Randy,
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this isn't the first time John's tried to make contact.
She said. After John died, I was trying to find
out if he had life insurance and I found a
business card and it was for insurance guys. So I thought,
I'll try this and see what they say. And she
wrung it and the guy at the other end says, no,
I'm not in insurance. It was what number did you call?
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And she read it out and he said, you got
the area code RA. I'm in California. And he says,
who are you And she says, well, I'm Kathy and
Idaho and he goes, you're Kathy and Idaho. I had
a crash on my motorbike like two weeks ago. It
was nasty, and there was this point I was floating
and looking down on my body and I heard this
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voice shouting over and over, tell Kathy and Idaho, I'm okay.
Tell Kathy and Idaho, I'm okay. When the ambulance showed up.
He asked who else was with him, and they said, no,
there's nobody else here because he crashed out on a
country road. It wasn't in town. There were no buildings
around or anything, and so she'd had that contact from him.
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And I'm thinking about the chain of events there. It's
that she dialed a wrong number to get to this guy.
How did that happen? And also, if John was up
that accident two weeks before the phone call, John must
have known that Kathy would call him miss dial a
call to him two weeks later, John must have known
the future. Well maybe it was a thing where she
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didn't miss dial, but John messed with the electronics and
made sure the call got through to that guy. So
I like that one, that type of verification, two different
things happening in there. So that's that's one of my
favorite stories.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
And how do these business cards show up as well?
Speaker 3 (32:11):
You know? Just yeah, who knows? It?
Speaker 1 (32:14):
Filled me with goosebumps hearing that story. Just now I'm
Kathy and Idaho. There's such an intelligence from the other side.
But living as a human being, we have all these
fears and worries and what ifs, and we feel so alone.
But we aren't, are we no?
Speaker 3 (32:32):
And that's something when I take people through a past
life regression, towards the end of it, we go into
the life between lives, and that's where we would hope
to encounter their spirit guide. Most of the time they
show up. Sometimes they don't. But one of the things
I asked them at the end when we ask the
spirit guides all sorts of questions about their past lives
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and their current life, and I asked, towards the end
of that, is there anything else you feel this person
needs to know? And the spirit guides almost always say,
we're always with you, We're always on your side. All
you need to do is ask for help. They won't
help unless you ask for it. You know, it's something
to do with free will, So you're right there. I
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get that from the spirit guides often, and it's interesting
that I do hundreds of sessions. Well, the people in
the session don't know each other, but it's this consistent
feedback that I get every time because the person is
hypnotized and in their minds, they're in that space with
their spirit guide and I asked the question and the
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spirit guide tells them the answer. Then they relay it
back to me. It's not like I'm a medium or
psychic or something. The clients experiencing this all themselves just
goes to.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Show there's so much more tests than meets the eye.
What's the value for someone's life currently if they have
a past life regression that you found as a regression therapist, it.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
Can be really insightful and it can be healing in
some ways. If that's what we are trying to do.
I'd say sixty or seventy percent of the people I
work with are looking for some therapy, and other people
come to me they just want to see what shows up.
It's just an exploration, and we see lives that are
so unexpected and unpredictable, but then they make perfect sense
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in the way they relate to the current life. And
people might have something happening in their current life and
they see something in their past life and it's suddenly like, ah,
hang on, yeah, that makes perfect sense. I can see
how these lives are connected and how I'm experiencing this
thing here. There's also the therapy side of it, where
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well towards the beginning of the session, we ask the
spirit guides to join us, and I'll say, please, take
us to the past life that is the origin point
of the current life issue, and so it might be
taken specifically to an event and see something happening. I
had a guy who had terrible pain in his stomach,
and he'd seen the doctors and they'd done all the tests.
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They could find no reason why he would be in pain.
And I took him to a past life and he
was stabbed in his stomach. We saw that past life
and I do that this thing is like an energy release,
it's the kind of negative energy. And then we went
to another past life where he did something he felt
terribly guilty, and he said that that manifested in his
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stomach this feeling. So after the session, a few weeks later,
he emailed me and said that pain in his stomach's
decreased by about fifty percent. He sits in front of
the TV poking himself in the belly because he can't
believe how much the pain has decreased. And there's a
woman who had exma on her leg. She didn't come
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to me for anything to do with that, but we
saw a past life where she was a hunter in
a forest and she stepped in a bear trap, and
those big metal claws came up and grabbed her leg
and it's exactly the same place in this life where
the x ME is. And she was in her fifties
and she tried everything to get rid of it, and
she emailed me later and said, the x ME is
completely gone, and there was something happening there and I
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don't quite know what it is. Techniques for breaking the
bond with the past life or releasing energy. We can
also ask the spirit guide for healing, but it seems
to work. It seems to be amazing. It's like everybody
processes it in a different way because we're all unique,
and so for some people it's really powerful and other
people it's just a little bit. And you know, I
don't want to say on here, I can heal you,
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because it's just something that might be the way the
spirit guides want it to work, or just the way
you process it yourself, or something to do with energy,
and I just try and do my best with the
techniques that I've got.
Speaker 1 (36:47):
Just another verification that we live in a very intelligent universe.
I know healing is possible, but I do think it's
a journey of self healing, and I don't doubt that
from beyond there's healing as well. Do we need to
be open to have a session for this? I would
think people that come to you have a little curiosities,
maybe a little skepticism, but they have to be open
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to just at least try it.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
Yeah. Yeah, you need to engage with the process. There
are some people who've done it before. Other people will
meditate and something will spring up during their meditation that
makes them interested. I get the impression a lot of
times it's almost like the person's been guided to do
a past life regression, like their spirit guides are nudging
them because I want to show them something. But if
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we go through the hypnotic induction, and you know, the
person will have to follow it, and it's me guiding
them through relaxation and visualization. And it's also a thing
where you've just got to accept what comes to you
because it comes up in your imagination. You can feel
like you're making it up.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We'll be right back with more simon past life regressions
and spirit guides. You're listening to Shades the Afterlife on
the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Heroinormal Podcast Network.
(38:24):
Welcome back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain
and we're here with Simon Bown, author of the new
book Verified Near Death Experiences, Proof of an Afterlife. You
can visit his website Past Lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk.
Simon was just talking about past life regressions.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
I get the impression a lot of times it's almost
like the person's been guided to do a past life regression,
like the spirit guides are nudging them because I want
to show them something that's we go through the hypnotic
induction and the person will have to follow it and
it's me guiding them through relaxation and visualization. And it's
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also a thing where you've just got to accept what
comes to you because it comes up in your imagination.
You can feel like you're making it up, but then
the lives can be so healing, and so I'm unexpected.
And I record the whole session and send it to
the client so I can say, look, don't try and
do any analysis now, don't get logical. Just go with
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the flow. You can listen to the recording later and
then you can do the analysis. And I think that's
what you've got to do. Just accept it and almost.
I suppose some people might have to see it as
entertainment and not think it's real. And we just see
how entertaining it is. And then I see them in
tears on the zoom call and it's like, after we finished,
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I got out to my wife and she'll say, how'd
it go? And I said, I've made them cry? And
she say, yeah, excellent, willburn.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Nothing wrong with tears, They're very healing. How long is
a session?
Speaker 3 (39:58):
It's an hour?
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Well that's it's not bad at all, is it? Yeahs
can be released. Oh my goodness, Simon, what is it
that gives you the greatest passion? Is it continuing to
study all of this? I know for myself I can
get caught up and just thinking a person and locked
into fears and worries. But no, sooner I interview somebody
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for a podcast, or read a book or listen to
a podcast episode that it's like, ah, yes, there is
a bigger picture. Does this help you in your humanly journey?
Speaker 3 (40:31):
Yeah it does. Yeah. It's that thing of hearing so
many life reviews and hearing how if you're mean to
somebody it can have such an effect. And also if
you're nice to someone and some people in the life
reviews say they see such trivial little things where they
might have been a little nice to someone, and the
spirit guides are so proud of that incident. And you
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might think to your say, yeah, there's nothing, that's just
a little thing, but it really means something. So it
kind of makes you think about how you behave yourself
and how you treat people. Like nobody's perfect, and maybe
sometimes you'll do something, Oh man, that's coming back in
my life review, I shouldn't have done that, but yeah,
that is a definite thing. And also, you know, when
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you're growing up, you have a fear of death if
you don't know about all this stuff, and so that
can be really hard. I've had emails from people who
say that for them it's such an impact on their
life and they lie awake at night thinking of death
and thinking it's just the end and there's nothing and
by hearing this information it really helps them. And I've
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heard from people who are grieving who said that they
found these podcasts not just mine, but yours as well,
and they found this information is amazing and they might
be going to a group, say for grieving parents, and
if they bring up something spiritual the guy in charge
and say no, no, we don't talk about that sort
of thing here, And really that can be very helpful.
Maybe that's what they should talk about as well as
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everything else they do.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
I always do a shout out to our friends at
Helping Parents Heal dot org. They have over twenty thousand members.
They call them Shining Light parents whose kids are in
the afterlife now and it is a grief organization that
also embraces the reality of the afterlife. So I love that. Simon.
You've mentioned a couple of times I've heard spirit guides,
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spirit guides or spirit guides. Can we work with them
on a daily basis? Can we talk to them? Should
we talk to them?
Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah? I think so. Sometimes I might think about it
and make up a conversation in my mind with spirit guides,
with my spirit guide, and you get replies, but you
think yoursel I'm just imagining it. But then mediums will
say to you, no, that's sometimes how it comes. You've
got to trust the information that's coming back to you,
so you can ask them for help and then see
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what comes out. It's very rare I would ask for help.
I've been through past life aggressions where I've encountered my
spirit guide, and one thing I find about them is
they tend to have a great sense of humor. And
when I encountered my spirit guide first time, they were
some way off and they were coming towards me, and
they were dancing, and they were walking like an Egyptian
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and doing the macarena and all these sorts of things
that was coming towards me. And I found also that
they morph. They could be male and they're a good joker,
and then they might just morph in front of my
eyes into a woman and she's really serious, and so
if I see her show up, I'm like, I'm in
trouble now. It's a thing where they sometimes take control
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of people as well when I'm in a session, and
it's not like a bad thing. So people hypnotized are
very relaxed, and they tend to talk really quietly, and
I've had a small number of sessions where suddenly their
voice is very strong and they talk about themselves in
the third person, and it sounds it's like the spirit
guide is talking about them and I'm asking them all
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these questions, which I suppose is almost like some sort
of channeling or something. Yeah, I've asked the question as well.
When we're in that space with them, I say to
the client or the spirit guide, that can you tell
us how can we have a stronger connection to you?
How can this person communicate? And they almost always say meditation,
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that's how to get a closer connection to their spirit guide.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
And I don't think it's important to know male or female,
know a name, know what they look like. It's just
to trust. And there are so many moments and I'm
sure you've experienced them as well, that all of a
sudden much time has passed and you think, how did
that happen? You're kind of in the zone. And I
think they work with us, whether we ask them or not.
We've got these loved ones and friends that are by
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our side. And I love the sense of humor because
I would think like minded souls hang out together. So yeah,
if they're with you and me, they have to be
able to have a bit of a sense of humor. Simon,
Can I ask what people can find at your website,
which is Past Lives Hypnosis dot co dot uk.
Speaker 3 (45:01):
Yeah, I've got a page on there that's about the book,
and you know a link to buy the book. They
can go on to my booking page where my calendar
is and book a free consultation like a twenty minute
zoom call free a charge, and we can talk about
past life regression and what they might want to achieve
during the session. And there's a lot of information on
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there about past life regression. And then there's links to
my podcast as well, which is Our Paranormal Afterlife.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Which is wonderful because I'm left with I want to
hear more. I want to know about some of these guests.
I want to read the book, anything else you'd like
to share with us. They're time together.
Speaker 3 (45:39):
I think that we're all on a spiritual path and
that sometimes we get nudges and maybe we should keep
our eyes open for little signs and things and not
just write them off. Because I can tell you a
little story about that. What happened to me. I was
interviewing a woman on my podcast who's written a book
about angels and me is not being religious, never being religious.
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To me, angels is a religious thing, and there's you know,
big white gowns and big feathers and wings, and she
was saying, you know when they're around, because they'll give
you a feather or leave you a feather. And the
next day, I'm walking down the street and this white
feather just drifts out the air right in front of me,
and so I'm thinking about what she said, and I
kind of wrote it off. And a few weeks later,
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I'm talking to a woman who's a medium and we'd
finish the recording of the episode and I was talking
to her and told her about this thing with the
feather and she's like, oh, yeah, yeah, pay attention to
the feathers. If they show up, that's a sign. We
finished the call and I went to see my teenage
daughter in her room and she's very, very tidy and
not like most teenagers I imagine, and there in the
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middle of her empty floor was a feather. And it's like, well,
where did that come from? And just as I'm talking
to a medium about feathers showing up and it's a sign,
a feather shows up. And I said to my daughter,
where did that feather come from? And she looks down
from her laptop. I was like, oh, I don't know,
and then goes back to what she's doing. So then
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months later, I visit a medium and we're sitting opposite
each other in these big comfortable chairs and it's very
queen and she does this hour long mediumship and she's
really good. And we finished that and then I said
to her, you know, I had this thing with feathers
a couple of times, and I explained what was happening,
and she said, look at the floor, and then in
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between us, there's a feather on the floor. And that
wasn't there the whole hour she was doing the mediumship.
Neither of us got up and went anywhere. And for me,
it was quite a shock, and it's almost like this
does not compute. My brain came to a dead stop
that feather had been teleported in or something, because I
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just don't know where it came from. And again it's
the coincidence or the synchronicity that just when you're talking
about feathers showing up in a weird way, a feather
shows up in a weird way. It's too much of
a coincidence, and so you feel like that this is
a sign the spirit guides or the angels are trying
to give you a sign. But then it's a sign
of what what are they trying to tell me? And
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I wonder if they did the first couple of feathers
and they're getting frustrated, and what do we have to
do to get through to this guy? You know, finally
they had to teleport one in some obvious place.
Speaker 1 (48:25):
I love that. Well, they can teleport feathers, they can
teleport business cards with Madison and Salon and all those
kind of things. You just never know and be open.
And you mentioned meditation and our imagination and things. I
don't know why, Simon, so many people think our imagination
means we made something up. I think that's the access
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way that our loved ones come through in medium readings
and even messages from our guides can sound like our
own voice.
Speaker 3 (48:55):
But just to trust that that's.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
A communication center and be open to it.
Speaker 3 (49:02):
Yeah, yeah, And I think the daydreaming as well. I
think there's the point where you may be doing something
that you do all the time. It might be having
a shower, it might be cleaning the dishes, and you
can do it on automatic, and your brain's just daydreaming
and going off. And I feel like sometimes that can
be an open channel to communication.
Speaker 1 (49:23):
It be like meditation with your eyes open, being in
the zone, being in the present moment. Well, Simon, thank
you so much for being our guest today.
Speaker 3 (49:32):
It's been great. I've really enjoyed talking to you, and
I love telling these stories and.
Speaker 1 (49:37):
We love hearing them. Albert Einstein is well known for
his quote about imagination. Imagination is more important than knowledge,
for knowledge is limited. Whereas imagination embraces the entire world,
stimulating progress, giving birth to evolution, it may even stimulate
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beyond the earth, is what I say. Don't forget to
come visit me at wee dootdie dot com. We have
some lovely classes beginning getting in touch with the power
of your soul and your loved ones, plus our free
Sunday gathering with medium demonstration included all atweedotdie dot com.
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I'm Sandra Champlain. Thank you so much for listening to
Shades of the Afterlife on the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast,
a paranormal podcast network.
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