Episode 86: The SoulPhone

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matter for yourself. Hi, I'm Sandra Champlain. For almost twenty
five years, I've been on a journey to prove the
existence of life after death. On each episode will discuss
the reasons we now know that our loved ones have

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survived physical death and so will we. Welcome to Shades
of the Afterlife Today, I'm excited to share with you
the wonderful work of Dr Mark Pitts Stick, who is
director and one of the co founders of the Soul
Phone Foundation. Dr Mark has over forty five years experience
and training in hospitals, pastoral counseling, mental health centers, and

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private practice. He is the author of several books, including
soul Proof, Compelling Evidence that no one really dies. You
can find out more at his website soul Proof dot com.
Dr Mark Pittstick Welcome, so glad you're here. Thank you, Sandra.

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It's a pleasure. Well Mark. I know it's been a
couple of years since I first interviewed you on my
first show, We Don't Die Radio, and I know a
lot has happened with the soul Phone. But before we
get into that, I'm wondering if you could go through
again a little bit about your history and about soul Proof. Sure. Um,

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how I got involved in all this, I think I
was born to do it. I think it is my mission. Uh.
Some evidence for that. When I was six years old,
my parents were showing me a beautiful son set and
I told him it reminded me of God. And they
only told me that twenty years later when I was
in theology school. And over the years, I've had four

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different mediums or people could see energy tell me that
I'm not the usual kind of soul that comes to
a place like Earth and have these great teaching missions.
Why I can believe it because throughout my life I
felt like a stranger, and a strange land actually had
to learn how to fit in and be a good human. Um.

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I would be watching football when I was twelve years old,
for example, with my grandpa and uncle's and dad and
so on, and and be thinking, gosh, you know, if
we just took a percentage of the money and time
and energy to put on this game to feed the poor,
think how we would would advancements we would make. So

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not your usual little guy. UM started working in hospitals
when I was nineteen as respitory therapists. As I worked
my way through premed theology, clinical psych etcetera, and was
around lots of death and dying and quickly was trained
to do resuscitated procedures, long intubation, arterial blood guess punctures, etcetera.

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So by age twenty, was almost every weekend around one
or more people as they died, including little children, and
it drove me to my knees. My Lutheran upbringing, you know,
taught me that God was all knowing, all loving, all caring,
and and so it took me a long time to
figure out how that can be true, and you had

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all the suffering that we see going on about this.
Fast forward thirty some years, you know, marriage and kids
and holistic practice, et cetera, a life happening and my
book so approved the docum Married film met Dr Schwartz
and Dr Schwartz and I obviously were kindred spirits, very

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clear that we had a similar mission and um we
He asked me to start working with him in two
thousand and sixteen to be the spokesperson four the Soul
Phone and project. Because he's so immersed in the research
and development. You bring up Dr Gary Schwartz. I have
seen him just a couple of times speak. Do you

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want to just talk a little bit about who he
is and how you guys got connected. Sure, he's um.
First of all, he had two near death experiences when
he was a little child, one age one and one
at age eight, and he never forgot them. You know,
he had the typical the white light, the deep piece.
It was the most love that he had ever felt

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in his life. It was curious for him because he
was brought up in a um atheistic Jewish family and
it was all sciences. Dad went to Columbia chemist so
it was all assist, assist, dust to dust, and that's
pretty much what he believed as he marched through the
top schools Cornell, Masters and PhD at Harvard, Professor at Harvard,

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tenured professor at Yale. Excuse me, A lot of people
don't know, but Dr Schwartz has been instrumental in huge
projects over the years. He was one of a handful
of people who founded behavioral medicine in the seventies. I
had no idea. Yeah, that alone is huge. Yeah, I know.

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It seems like every couple of months I find out
something new about Oh. Yes, I was involved in the
pioneering of this field. And anyway, he's he's the most
amazing genius but also caring, curious. He's just an incredible person.
We have become soul brothers. In fact, he made me

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promise that we will continue to work together after we
pass on. So I guess we have to no choice.
You have no choice, of course you will. Yeah. He's
seventy five years old, and um he went to the
University of Arizona so that he could start doing more,

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even more cutting edge edge research and in this case
looking at the survival of consciousness. Uh, Yale and Harvard
are wonderful institutions but more on the conservative side, and
University of ariazonly being more liberal. Uh. And he started
at research with mediums about twenty he knew from experience.

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In fact, he even took courses to find out how
some mediums cheat or you know, just a very mediocre
but he was convinced that at least some mediums had
verifiable abilities, and as describing his book, the Afterlife Experiments
did double even triple blind studies, totally controlled research with

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people like John Edward and George Anderson and others, and
found it indeed, some of them had very verifiable abilities,
hit rates around eight s versus and by the control group.
So that piqued his curiosity, and he during that time

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launched the dream of creating technology to allow spirit of communication.
And he was aware of EV E. P and I T.
C in various approaches that may or may not work,
may or may not be intelligible. He wanted to create
technology as reliable as a cell phone that was night

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work of the time, very clear, whether it was audio
or video, et cetera, and set out about that. Ten
of the top mediums started working with him and they
would independently come up with information. They would just pat
and they're saying, you know, Albert Einstein keeps coming to

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me and saying, I'm supposed to contact you, Dr Schwartz
and pass on this bit of information. And it's it's
such a wonderful story because sometimes these are highly technical terms,
electrical engineering terms, for example, and the medium will say,
I don't even know if this is a word, but
I'm I'm supposed to pass it on you. And Gari

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say it's exactly what I need to hear right now.
That I was, and that's my sign. And especially when
this kind of information came through independently by multiple mediums identically,
it was a big help. So I say, Dr Schwartz
gets his information from four sources. First of all his

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amazing genius mind. Secondly from these evidential mediums. Third, from
his earthly team electrical engineers, software specialists, optical physicists and others.
Being a senior professor at University of Arizona, he is
able to use grad students. I met some of them,

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especially from India and China. They are just such geniuses. Um.
And then fourth, what we call the eight Team, a
group of quote deceased luminaries what we call post material luminaries,
who have been helping him, and I name some of them,
Albert Einstein, David Boom, Thomas Edison, Nicola Tesla and others.

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This is so great and wild and fantastic. And I
know there's been a lot of people in the past
couple of years who have asked me what's the latest
on the soul phone. What's the latest on the soul phone?
And before we get into the latest on the soul Phone,
I think maybe we had talked about this the last
time we spoke. But I'm just reminded of those two

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brothers that had a dream of creating a flying machine,
Wilbur and Orville, and how back in the day people
thought they were crazy, It's never gonna work, you know,
all of those things, and these were some obviously the
founding fathers of the aircraft. Every time we I take off, Mark,
I'm thinking, thank you Wilbur and Orville for having a dream.

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And now we just take it for granted. So wherever
we're at on planet Earth with the team and the
soul Phone, you know, I believe, beyond the shadow of
a doubt that it's too far away, that we will
be able to connect with our loved ones and just
the convenience of our handheld device. But you know, don't

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listen to the little voice that says things are impossible,
because look at the things we take for granted now.
And even you mentioned Edison the lightbulb. Many people laughed
at him and he failed a thousand times, and now
look look what we have. So with that, just for
all of us to be excited, you know, really be
excited and what what's probably happening and what's possible in

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the future. So that being said, what's the latest, or
what's happening or what is the soul phone? We can
even start with that. You're right, brothers. Metaphor is an
apt one. We've surged into some of the writings by
Orville and Welber, and they wrote after there, I think
it was nineteen o eight. Their first flight only lasted
twelve seconds and crashed. But one of them wrote, for

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those five of us who were there on that day,
we knew that human flight was possible. And likewise with
the soul phone, we now know and I'll get in
details in a moment that first of all, this this
work has shown scientifically that life continues after bodily death,

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and secondly that these people who have dropped their body
can communicate. Now, is it a commercializable device you can
go to your storm by not yet. Alexander Graham Bell
patented the telephone in eighteen seventies six. Well, in nineteen sixty,

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I was seven years old. We had a party line.
It was a four number dial. I'm getting on the
phone trying to call somebody. You know, You're like, you know,
clear your throat, so whoever is on the line would
hang up. And it wasn't until um the late nineteen
nineties that the first mobile phone existed. It was huge. Mark.

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We have to take a quick break, but when we
come back, we'll find out more from you about the
soul Phone. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife on
the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m
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I'm Sander Champlain and we're here with Dr Mark Pitstick,
co founder of the Soul Phone Foundation. Mark, what can
you tell us about the soul Phone? First of all,
the soul fun is an umbrella term for for anticipated
devices and the first is working very well, and that's
called the soul switch. That's a binary indicator. I being

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allows yes no answers from those in spirit, and the
soul switch um is not perceived as being a commercializable device,
you know, kind of be like a Uiji board, only
very accurate. But we don't really anticipate going down that
road with the souls, which again we have been able

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to show that with multiple, multiple studies, thousands of trials,
highly statistical significance, data analysis, et cetera, be able to
show scientifically that the presence of spirit, that they are
present and further their communication. For example, one way is

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using what we call the personal identification tests. Uh, and
I say we because I've actually been involved in a
lot of this research over the last three years. And
the personal identification tests being a series of questions. So
for example, UM, if I were in spirit, the question
would be to me as your first name Mark, Yes,

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as your us named Champlain. Answers should be no, you know,
did we have a dog named Snoopy while I was
a kid? Yes, and so on, a series of questions
that could be verified which give a high degree of
certainty that who we are dealing with secondly, a what's

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called the cognitive understanding test, and this is done for
the most part with a series of slides. And keep
in mind this has all been done UH in different centers, replicated,
all computer automated. Because Dr Schortz, being such a serious scientists,
wanted to address any conceivable criticism. For example, UH, the

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observer bias, that is, the effect of the experiment or's
consciousness on the outcome. So some of the experiments have
been run in the middle of the night, the time
selected by a random time generator. UH. The computer starts
the experiment in the middle of the night when everybody
is asleep, so no one's consciousness would know when it

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started or what's going on, and yet the result to
the same as when we're physically present in the room.
So there's cognitive understanding test and shows a series of slides,
for example using photos of the well, let's say a
mother wants to um interact with our child who's past.

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Slides would be loaded up and the question would be
was this us together when you were a little boy,
And if it was, the answer should be yes. But
if the photo was of strangers, the answer should be no.
Then another one is this a picture of our dog
we had, you know, when we lived in a certain city.

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Yes or no? Is this a birthday party that occurred
before you changed world? Yes or no? So again, a
way to be sure who you're dealing with, to be
sure that they are alive and well and really most touching,
to know that they are still present, they still want
to be part of the family, They're aware of what's

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going on, they're still in contact. Mark. How do they
flip the switch? I'm sure they have to manipulate energy,
and I can't imagine it's an actual switch like a
light switch, But can I assume they use their energy
to somehow get the information the yes or the no
in the computer. Yeah, they're actually actually two different switches

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right now, and we're kind of like, yeah, well, kind
of like you. There are two race cars that are
leading the race, and so we're betting on both of
them to see which one turns out to be the
very best. But in both cases, yes, uh, the post
material persons, the people who have passed on, are able
to signal their presence. So you know, whether you could

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say it's their energy or they're touching with their hands
depends on where you know whether you're looking at the
quantum physics, are things particles formed or waves pure energy.
But the experiments so far indicate that they can be
just as physical as we. They have physicality as measured

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by uh, the diminished time of photons passing from one
area to another when they put their hand through it,
the motion detected. When they put their hand in an
enclosed area and air motion is detected. So that's why
we say post material persons. They're they're not just airy,

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gauzy balls of energy. They can be, but they also
going to be quite physical, and from what we've gathered,
enjoy doing that sometimes, I would think so definitely. And
even some of the great mediums that we both know
and love that work on behalf of the those in
the spirit world. There there's still people. They are still people,

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They have their personalities into some of the information is that, uh,
they very easily can buy locate and we need a
different word because in one conversation with Edison, Einstein and
Tesla we were like auctioneers, can you indeed um enjoy

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simultaneous realities? And they said, oh yes, he said so
more than one place at the time. Yeah, ten, yeah, twenty, yeah,
and at that point Gary said, now, wait a minute,
are you saying to me that you can be in
twenty different places at the same time having different interactions. Yes,

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And then it turned out they said even fifty and
maybe a hundred sometimes, So how cool would that be?
And by the way, one of the I guess take
home messages of that is when people try to interact
with our loved ones who have passed on, it's not
like we're interfering with their other business year. They can

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do more than one thing at a time. That's good news.
So that's the soul switch, which must be really amazing
to just even be part of getting those answers. Even
having a conversation with Edison Einstein and Tesla like, no
big deal. Wow, what's the next of the four categories? Yeah,

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first of all, the and we say right now, the
soul switch is a stage two prototype. It works about
nine percent at the time, eighty to ninety. And we
say that the other ten or is not that they're
messing up, it's just the limits of the technology. And
the next goal is to create the stage three prototype. However,

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that we require full time software programmer, full time let
to engineer a clean room, probably a two million dollar
budget to finalize that, and we have a couple of
people who are instead. We've been talking to UM, but
if any people have an investment, capabilities and interest contactus.

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Dr Schwarz thinks that after the funding is in place
and the equipment and so on, that will take about
a year then to have the stage three and that
will be a practically working device that will then allow
us to move into the second device, which is called
the Soul keyboard. So if you look at the keyboard
in front of you, it's about forty three switches and

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UM for example, if you push the L key, that's
a yes for the L, the no for everything else.
And the first Soul switch then can be incorporated into
a Soul keyboard. Dr Schwartz anticipates will be about four
ft wide three ft deep, but that will allow then
texting and typing with those another dimension. Pretty great. Yeah.

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By the way, we UM and we had a session
through one of the top mediums being able to ask
questions of people like Tesla and Einstein and UM. I asked,
when we have a device that's and the sole keyboard
would function for this that allows sufficient quantity and quality
of information to pass through. Would you all be willing

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to give webinars addressing our toughest challenge and biggest problems
And the medium started laughing and she said, they're pushing
each other out of the way to get first in line.
So indications are there's a huge amount of interest on
quote the other side for helping us here on our planets.

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So keep hope alive people. The third device then after
we have that sole keyboard, and by the way, that
will allow so much more information from the A team
and really expedite creation of the other devices. The third
then being called Soul Voice and then Soul video like teleconferencing,

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whether it's zooms, guy face time, being able to see
and here very exciting. I'm just envisioning that world and
probably the not too too distant future that that's possible.
It is, and just the just the knowledge that it's
on the way has helped many people. I've actually had

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three emails from people who were suicide and they said,
you know, I had just about had been living on
Earth because you know how it's difficult for people are
partially awakened with all the craziness that goes on our planet.
And they said I was really considering moving on, and
then I heard about the Soul Phone, and I thought,

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you know, I want to stick around and see how
this ends up. Uh. And then of course numerous Bree
parents who are journeying towards being Shining Light parents are
so very excited that in addition to visitations with mediums
and so on, they will um at some point be

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able to visit in a much more developed way. I
think it's really great. And just how you brought up
the cell phone and the mobile phone back in the day,
it was this big, heavy, clunky thing, and now we
just hold this device in our hand that we can
get almost all the information in the universe in less

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than a second. And it takes it takes money. I
think a lot of us working in the afterlife field
just do this out of our own funds. And I
know there's been donations and things to the Soul Phone Foundation,
but it it takes that, and it takes equipment, and
it takes these computers and I can't even imagine the
device with photons and all those kind of things. But

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and it also takes these minds that can get on
board to help with it. I think probably when the
cell phone first came out and more and more minds
got involved. We saw the growth exponentially to what we
have today in our hands. I can't even imagine what
the future holds and that kind of technology. After the break,

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we'll talk more with Dr Mark pitts Stick. You're listening
to Shades of the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio
and Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. Welcome

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back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sandra Champlain and
we're with Dr Mark pitts Stick, co founder and director
of the Soul Phone Own Mark. I know for myself
being involved in learning about the afterlife and sharing it,
the difference it can make in one life is just tremendous.
With grief, we often can hit rock bottom and just

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to hear some words that can help us believe in
the afterlife can actually give people life again. Yes, and
especially you know, the proving that there's an afterlife has
been near and dear to my heart for many years
since I was working with these dying people as a youth.

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But now for the first time we can say we
now have definitive scientific demonstration that life continues after bodily death,
which we can never state legitimately before, but now we
can based on the data. Where would you recommend people
go mark online? Would it be cell phone dot org

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to find out more because obviously in an hour interview
you're not going to give all the details and be
able to do that. But for people that want to
explore more, I know you also have Greater Reality Living
and soul Proof. Yeah, soul phone dot Oregon is a
great way to start to learn more about it, to
see the updates and so on. But Dr SCHWARTZS and

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I realized three years ago that it would be advantageous
to have first a book but also groups to help
people adjust to this paradigm shift. I mean, it's huge
um to to really know for sure. In other words,
it's one thing where religions talk about. It's another thing

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we're like, well, you know, evidence indicates, but but now
to say scientific demonstration of it. And so we wrote
the book Greater Reality Living, in which we lay out
all the evidence clinical, scientific and based on firsthand experience,
and then what we call the lives formula and just

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briefly lives as an acronym for l learn the evidence
that clearly shows what forever being. I internalize this great news,
so people don't just have a dry intellectual knowing that
phades when time gets tough, but a deep, internalized knowing

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that serves them. It's like building your house on grant staff,
shifting sand that serves them when they're dying, when a
loved one passes, etcetera. The V stands for vitalize yourself holistically,
so that people have the energy, the balance, the vitality
they need to brighten the corner where they are to

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demonstrate this. Okay, you know, I hope it says when
we know better, we do better. All right, When we
know that we're eternal beings in the world, interconnected, how
does shape the way we interact with each other, treat
one another, and so on. Mobilized do what we can
to make the world a better place. The E stands

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for enjoy the many benefits, like knowing there's nothing the fear. Yeah,
we dropped the body, but that turns out to be
much less than one percent of who and what we are.
And the same way, we couldn't lose loved ones if
we tried. You know, we are sold so inextracly interconnected
people and pets and then finally, the S stands for

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serve others and make the world a better place. So
we wanted to share this formula. And then each chapter
has lots of information, strategies resources so people can use them.
We've also started Greater Reality Living groups. I think we
have three or four functioning now in the US, and
can't I mean, we just got started the first of

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the year, will start online Greater Reality Living groups because
we had heard from so many people of the years,
there's no one I can talk to you about these things.
You know, if if I told my family and friends,
they think I was kookie, well guess what where we
must all be kookie because it turns out so many
US have had after death communications or various spiritually transformative experiences.

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So these Greater Reality Living groups then being safe places, inclusive, respectful, diversity,
and so on where people can learn this information. We
have videos and facilitator managers. We have a whole team
of twenty eight people working for the Foundation project managers
who are forming these groups where people can learn this information,

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discuss it, share their own personal experiences, and then look
at how can they take action in their community to
make things better, really good I know from myself my
life has improved. I don't even know how many time
is over embracing the fact that we don't die. It's

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also our life is for a purpose. I've gone after
some dreams that have been forgotten about. I've been courageous
in the face of fear, things I probably wouldn't have
normally done. But embracing this Greater Reality living as you
talk about it, is something that I'm living my best
life and it all stemmed out of, you know, some

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of the worst times that have happened, death of my dad,
death of my grandmother. And it's really exciting to me
that you know, have Greater Reality groups and I'd love
to be your partner with sharing that and Greater Reality
living with the world. Thank you for that, Sandra m. Yes,
people can visit Greater Reality Living dot com. There links

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and tabs on starting a group, joining a group. It's
all very well set up, as you say, when we
really know who we are, it's a game change. And
that doesn't mean life is perfect. For example, you know,
when I love one passes on, it doesn't take away
all the sadness or pain, but it definitely lightens it.

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It's the difference between saying goodbye to someone knowing that
we'll never see them again versus saying see you later.
M hm, And it's a sea later. It's like they
went on a vacation first, and you're going to meet
them at the destination, but you've got some work to
do before you get on the airplane. Yes, that's what
I say. How can someone get a copy of the

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Greater Reality Living Book? Well, if they google it. It's
available through Amazon, of course, is and everything everything. They
can buy it off my website, soul proof dot com,
as well as while I'm mentioning soul proof dot com,
I just hit. Over the years, I have created articles

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with holistic solutions for the biggest questions and problems people
encounter when a loved one passes, when a loved one
dies by side, and actually I should clean up my language,
like the titles we say when, um, the body of
a loved one dies by suicide, because we want to
be very clear your loved one didn't die, just the

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body did. And that's such a huge distinction, and we
need to upgrade our language so that our brains really
understand that. An article for people who are sensive and
empathic which is very common, holistic health information, uh, etcetera, etcetera,
all sorts of techniques. So those are all free articles

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at soul proof dot com. Also, numerous radio shows I
had over the years with people like Wayne Dyer, Brian Wise,
Raymond Moody, Michael Newton, I needed more, Johnny Carolin, Mace
May just top names discussing these various topics. You know,
who am I, why am I here? What happens after

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I die? How can I identifying my mission? Etcetera. So
these are all free resources at soul proof dot com
for your listeners. Thank you for that. It's great to
be able to share because there's always so much more.
And some of those folks that you talked about I
may never interview and to have that those conversations out

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there because I wasn't having a bad day before you
and I got on this conversation, Mark, but I wouldn't
say it was a great day, but something inside me said,
after this conversation, it'll be a great day. So we
all need resources to plug us back into this greater
reality and remind us of who we are. So thank

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you for having all those resources at soul proof dot com.
My pleasure. And it gets better than that. The beginning
of next year, we will start what are called SEED events,
Seed being an acronym for cell phone education, ethics and demonstration.

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Uh and and just a side note, the ethics part
comes in. Um, we're very cognizant of the potential downsides
of this communication technology. Uh. You know, when the cell
phone and computer industry started, I don't know how much
attention they paid to the potential abuses. And now, for example,

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people getting hacked, identity theft, and so on through these
technological devices. Well, Dr Schwartz, being the very caring person
he is, he said, I can't open Pandora's box without
prudent safeguards in place, And so we want people to
be clear from the beginning. And even when the devices

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are ready, they won't It won't be like something you
can go buy the store. They will be at centers,
initially cell phone centers where people can use the technology,
but where they will be safeguards and place protection and
so on. Also, you know counseling. I mean you can't
imagine if a person after a meaningful visit, that's gonna

(36:11):
be life changing for them. So they may need some
to talk for a while on some counseling. So we're
thinking all this through. So that's the ethics part the
seat events. Then we'll start and give these demonstrations because
as the saying goes, seeing is believing. This will be
a full day event. First, um Dr Schwartz will present.

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Now he and his wife, Ronda, who's one of the
evidential mediums, will be presenting by zoom you know, they'll
they will be ensconced in the research at the University
of Arizona. So then I gonna travel around the country.
But first Dr Schwartz will present on the science behind

(36:54):
all this, all this on the soul phone. Rhonda being
a UH, she calls herself a research medium. In other way,
she doesn't do readings for people. All of her work
is with the A team bringing through information for the
various researchers. She will speak about evidential mediums, what those are,

(37:18):
and then also about the A team, some of the
background news and some of what they bring through UH
snippets that she has gathered over the years about what
their life is like. Now, Mark, I hate to interrupt you,
but we need to take a short break and when
we come back, we'll ask your part in all of
these seed events and more of the future for the

(37:40):
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(38:09):
I'm Sander Champlain and we are with Dr Mark Pitstick
talking about the upcoming demonstrations of the Soul Phone Project. Mark,
at these demonstrations, what will you be presenting? I will
present about the greater reality living, that is, how might
we live differently once we know without a doubt that
we're eternal beings and the various benefits of all of this.

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Then we will move into the demonstration mode, first of all,
showing the equipment for the first time ever to the
public and showing first what does it look like when
there's baseline Because all of all these experiments have what
we call no participant controls. Now as we we need

(38:52):
to have control groups. What happens when no one's touching
the equipment, when no one in the room human or
post material. And it's pretty much like a flatline e
k g. You know, the data hovers along the X
axis pretty much not much. I mean, it's gonna pick

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up some electromagnetic fields from for lescent lights of one
tin outlets, what we call background noise. Then and we
will have an attendee from the audience come up and
touch whichever device we're using and show what is the
impact of their physicality their energy, and it's huge for humans.

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That will be visible light and it will be a
big overhead screen so you can see the change in
the light patterns. Also, graphs are produced instantaneously, huge graphs
showing the difference between a yes and no answer. And
then the statistical significance is computed again instantaneously. The software

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for all this is up rated monthly, and it's just
it's amazing. It's magical. Then and one of the eight
team will come on and touch the devices and then
we'll see the effect of their input. Now, this is
fascinating to me. A few years ago, Dr Schwartz said,

(40:19):
on an average, a post material person's signal was about
one thousand that of a human. Yeah, which is very small,
but it was still very highly statistical significant versus a
baseline control. Well then about a year ago he started saying,
they're averaging one now, you know, which is ten times

(40:42):
better than what they were doing in our last round
of experiments, which took about two months to run thousands
and thousands of sessions. Their energy was seven percent of
what a humans is well, and that's seven times what
they were doing when it was one album hundred. But

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the part that really blows my mind is about a
month ago, a Hollywood videography team came to the lab
at Tucson to prepare for a series of documentaries about
the Soul Phone, and the producer was direct near thinking
that videographer is taking two and a half hours of footage.

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The A team member for that is a woman named
Susie Smith who passed in two thousand one, but she
and Gary were friends before she passed on. Susie wrote
thirty books on psychic medium and afterlife topics. Susie Smith
s u s why she lived at almost aged ninety.

(41:47):
She was wheelchair bound for the last couple of decades
of her life, and before she passed, one of her
things was I can't wait to die so I can
come back and prove no one really dies. That you
made heard a saying like that before. Well, so she
was chosen to be the A team member for this

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demonstration that was being professionally filmed. She knocked it out.
The part she achieved forty percent of what the human
effect is forty two fists of what a human does.
So we've gone from one thousand to fort Garry said, yeah, no,

(42:28):
wonder you know, she's been waiting all these years, about
twenty years to show us that no one really dies.
She just did it, you know with whatever they're saying
in spades, M that's incredible. Yeah. So those will be
the seat events and then there'll be a wrap up.
Dr Schwartz come back in and answer questions. We'll talk

(42:52):
the impact of this. So again we'll be doing is
on weekends. I have a team of event planners who
will be helping set them up, and those public demonstrations
then should really launch this media being present, people really
getting and we're so excited about between that the greater

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reality living groups seeing change in our lifetime metamorphosis as
more and more people. We call them the per centers,
and I derived that term from the work of Michael Newton,
founder of Life Between Lives therapy. Dr Newton and his
he has about twenty five trained therapists have conducted thirty

(43:37):
five thousand life between live sessions and something like twenty
three countries. So they've mapped out very well that on average,
about eight of people on Earth or what they call
beginner souls. And this is there's no judgment involved, it's
just how many times they've been around the block and

(43:57):
how much they've learned. Another, well over thirteen percent would
be considered intermediate souls, and then two to three percent advanced.
And so I'm fairly good at math. I put together
those intermediate advanced numbers and came up with fifteen percent.
So we're not going to reach everyone. You know, as

(44:17):
as we are talking before we started the interview, there
are skeptics. They are closed minded people. There are people
who are imbalanced. There people who are so in so
much pain that they lash out and criticize. And we
know we're not going to touch everyone, and we know
we're gonna have the skeptics. But if even a half

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of the fifteen percenters would mobilize and brighten the corner
where they are, do what they came here to do,
share their greatest gifts, the changes in our world would
be unbelievably powerful and quick. Not to mention all the
impact from the many near death experiences, the many brief

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parents who are choosing to try 's mute their pain
into service. Um, we have some really exciting changes starting
to kick in now, it's just tremendous. How do we
find out about the upcoming seat events? But if we
find that on soul phone dot org, Yes, and also
Greater Reality Living dot com. And also people who sign

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up for our free newsletters, whether it's the soul proof
dot com newsletter or the one from the two websites
we just mentioned, will receive updates about when these events are.
We're five months out. The time will go by very
quickly and there'll be more and more mark we just
have a few minutes left, or there anything else you'd

(45:39):
like to share, or something I should have asked you
that I haven't, or if you just want to reach
in for some words of inspiration, sure well, I'd like
to share something that happened in the February two thousand
and eighteen. I was at the home of Dr Gary
and Rodney Schwartz. They were gifting me a session with
the A team, the ability to ask a number of

(46:02):
questions of the A team, and it was the first
time they had been asked anything that was of a
non technological nature. So I had thought for weeks. Oh
my god, you know what, what would I ask? Because
this is the cream of the crop of people who
lived on Earth. Well, my first question was how can
we create world peace? How can we have harmony our planet?

(46:25):
And Albert answered through Ron, and this is discussed in
our book Greater Raality Living. He said, wow, that's a
tough one. I noticed that things are really no better
than when I was on Earth. The causes of disharmony
and the solutions needed for them are many. And he said,
oh I can tell you is listen to your inner

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hearts calling do what you're most passionate about, and know
that that's your contribution. Frankly, I was a little disappointed.
I thought, okay, you're Albert Einstein, for God's sake. Plus
you've dropped your filtration, you know, limiting filtration of your brain.
I thought you'd come up with something more than that.
But I moved on to my second one. I said, okay, uh,

(47:10):
Dr Schwartz and are getting ready to publish our book,
Greater Reality Living. Is there anything we've missed in it?
And Ron said, well, Mark, you have to realize that
even though they're seeing more the greater reality than we
on Earth. They're not omniscient. And we haven't talked to
them about the book. You know, we're always talking about
soul phone. Can you just get man over it? So

(47:32):
I did the life formula what I just mentioned earlier,
learned the evidence, internalize this great news, vitalize yourself, enjoy
the benefits, and serve others and make the world a
better place. And when I went over that brief overview
of the book, Einstein shouted through, Runda, that's it. You

(47:54):
just answered your first question. That's great. And it took
me a moment to realize what was being said. But
when I did, I had goose bumps on top of
goose bumps. If I had hair on top of my head,
it would have been standing straight up. And they said
what you just went over is sufficient to help change

(48:16):
the world. They said, you have covered all the bases.
You just needed to get out there. And David Bom,
who was a Princeton mathematician and quantum physicist colleague of Einstein, said, run,
don't walk. Share this with as many people as possible,
as quickly and boldly as you can. And he said
and don't be concerned about critics. We had them when

(48:39):
we were on Earth. You're going to have them definitely.
Just let their uninformed, unfair attacks run off your back
like water off a duck's back. And that jazz is
needless to say that we were on the right track.
And that's why I really appreciate getting the word out

(49:00):
your listeners about the Greater Reality Living book, the groups,
the soul Phone technology that can help people's biggest problems
and also mobilize them too. You said something earlier when
you're talking about you had courage when faced with obstacles.
It was a beautiful way you put it. Well. Likewise,

(49:23):
this knowledge and these groups and this support can be
the key that triggers people say, Okay, you know what,
I'm gonna shake off this feeling of hopelessness, this inertia,
and I am going to do what I can, even
if it's a little bit. It's a really good advice. Well, Mark,
thank you so much for being our guest today. Well,

(49:44):
thank you for all you do and for sharing this
information with other Sandra, You're welcome, and thank you to
our listeners. You can check out everything at soul proof
dot com and a reminder to go to we Don't
dot dot com for so many afterlife things. In all
past episodes, I'm Sandra Champlain. You've been listening to Shades

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