June 9, 2025 • 43 mins
Kate reconnects with ‘Raising Helen’ co-stars and real-life siblings Abigail and Spencer Breslin.
Once upon a time, they played her kids in the 2004 rom-com…and now they have countless movies and award accolades collectively.
Hear all about their competitive past, the tragedies they overcame, the habits they had to break, and the big things this brother and sister duo have ahead!b
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling. Raivalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I worked with Abs that's what they call her because
I don't have any apps. On Scream Queens. That was
quite set, quite the set. Yeah, I was the old
man on that set. You were with Jamie Jamie Lee.
But it was a bunch of young ands and me
and Jamie Lee. You know, I tried to be cool
(00:59):
and young and hip and it didn't work. So I
just stayed in my place in the New Orleans. Didn't
didn't integrate very well. Now anyway, let's bring them in there.
They've been waiting in the waiting.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, okay, how are you guys.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We're we're doing good.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, let's just jump right right in. Okay, So where
were you guys? Born?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
New York? Yeah, you're like New York City? Any hospital?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah I was, but yeah, oh you were.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
And I always think about it because in friends, like
when Phoebe gives birth and friends. That like kind of
roundish building. That's where I was born in. Yeah, that
My mom really went to all the different hospitals for
all three of us.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I feel like, I say, there's another sibling, yes, yes,
Wait what's your other siblings name?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Ryan?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How old is Ryan?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He just turned forty, just turned forty two days ago,
So yeah, what's the order here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Ryan, I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Spec he's the youngest baby.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, Oh my god. And she was a little baby
when we worked together, and she was you were so
cute and it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Almost forty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh my god, Oliver, when we worked together, I was
like nineteen.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I know, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh my god, that was ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Was that ten years ago?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Years ago? Not?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I can't even It's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And raising Helen was twenty two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Twenty two years ago, pretty nuts?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Was like, what was what was it like growing up
in the city? I mean, were you allowed the freedom
to roam and explore or was it strict or.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Odd?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean, I I don't know, I guess about the
I don't know. It was just what do you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Think we have like a kind of like a block
radius of where we could.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah. I mean when I when I turned like thirteen fourteen,
I started going off on my own doing stuff and
you know, hanging out with friends and playing in bands
and stuff like that. But before that, you know, we
weren't like just like wandering around the city like totally unaccompanied.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That didn't happen until I was like sixteen seventeen when
I started doing that. But yeah, but what I liked
about growing up in New York I was younger.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because I'm a boy, so I got the game earlier.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It's not safe for the women exactly, yeah, exactly, wilderness.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was able to offend for myself.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, I was more so. But we were also
because we were acting. We were traveling so much, so
we weren't really in New York for massive amounts of time.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, on the road affair amount, Yeah, like a lot
in La.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, Spencer, weren't you already working like when you were
little doing didn't you?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I started doing like commercials and stuff when I was three? Yeah,
I agree, And I started off. My first one was
a My first two were like a Life cerial commercial
and a McDonald's commercial with Charles Barkley. Uh. And then yeah,
then it just kind of went from there.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was cool.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I thought it was burking for some reason.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why I was trying to it was a Mickey D's commercial.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah wait, so this was obviously I mean, you're three
years old, who You're not making many life choices. Did
your parents sort of say, look, we're going to get
you guys into commercials and get you into that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So there the origin story or whatever was uh uh.
It's I always laugh at this now because it seems
like so weird now as an adult. But when when
I was like in that eight when I was like three,
for there was just like indoor playground in Manhattan that
I used to go to. And it's funny now they
(05:05):
used to send like talent scouts out to like the
playgrounds to be like, oh, cute kid, really weird kind
of like, oh the kid's really adorable, like.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You just like somebody goes up to like the Karen
and it's like, I think your child is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So now yeah, it's you're pretty hot kid.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, so it's uh yeah, So then I started doing commercials.
Uh just I I had a good time doing them,
I guess, and then kind of kind of kind of yeah,
where I was discovered.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, yeah, but Ryan, Ryan didn't have didn't have what
it took.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Huh, just zero interest, zero interest. He doesn't want to
be in front of the camera. I think he did
do like a cameo in Raising Helen. I think him
and his buddies.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh uh yeah, when we're like we were supposed.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To they were supposed to play like I think like
CD kids in a playground or something like that, like
the like The Bad Element or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
God, because Gary don't even remember that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well Gary, like anyone you showed up to set, Gary
would just be like, oh, you want to do a
part in the movie.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh my god? Remember when he I'll never forget when
you were ordering the drink when he was just yelling
out five hundred million different drinks. Yeahore telling you that
was my favorite, telling me when to Singapore Sling.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I always because I did a movie with Gary. Also,
after I've aught we both did Princess Diary's too. Yeah,
after Raising Helen, and then I did New Year's Eve
with Curry and I'll never forget he called my mom
uh before because in New Year's Eve, I was like
fourteen years old and it's like we have me and
(06:59):
this other boy that was in the movie We have
a kiss, you know, and he said to my mom like,
I don't want to be lude heard. He was the best,
the best, He was the best. That's such a fun
movie because we did a lot in l a and
(07:20):
we did a lot in New York. And I remember, Kate,
you like were so cool because when we wrapped, I
was very sick that day.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I was starving.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, thank you, speaking everywhere. But you took Spencer to
Swartz and I remember being like, I didn't care that
I was sick because I wasn't doing a good job
in the film. Was six years old. I because I
was like, damn was going to.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Kate?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Kate, you took Spencer to.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It was just the two of you.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well like it was well, who else was with us?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
No, it was I think my mom was.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
There and there was someone else who.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Was there and like my assistant or I remember, yeah,
I think so it's just a couple of us.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I remember when Abby was all sick and Gary came
up to the room. It was like, have you tried
like saltine crackers?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Abigail, I'll take you to fish once again.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I didn't down now, but can American girl doll store exactly?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember, this is such a great There's this scene
where I'm teaching her. I'm teaching her how to or
she's just trying to tie her shoes and I come
into the room and she's just like, you know, crying
because the last time she was learning how to tire
shoes was with her mom. And I, oh my god,
(08:54):
I could not get through this scene. Abigail could make
herself crush. I mean, she is so years old, she's
Wannie's age, crazy and she you are accessing something that
was so like pure and incredible, and everybody was just like,
oh my god. It was just heart wrenching. I'll never
(09:16):
forget it. You're sitting in that little.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let me ask you a question. Actually, this is interesting
because that's six years old. I don't know. I'm sure
you have recollection of it, but how are you able
to do that? Meaning even you and then moving into
sort of other children watching some of these kids being
able to access emotion and make it so real. You know,
how do you remember how you did that where you
(09:42):
went at six to be able to do that or
were you just so in the moment of what the
scene was.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
No, I think there's something wrong with me. I think
I try to work through this in therapy from time
to time. I don't really you know why, I no,
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Like, uh uh, I I don't really.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I see it as a lot of like a mechanical thing.
I can make myself cry very easily. It's really great,
like in terms of in my real life, like I
can manipulate my husband really well. I would cry to
my dad about getting things. No, I'm kidding, but I'm
(10:29):
not so. I don't know. I don't know. I think
I was always just it's my party trick. I can.
I can cry very yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh and break your heart. Now you're not just crying.
It was just like it was like heartbreaking.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now the older I got, the older I got, the
more I, you know, would actually think about it. But
my mom could just say something to me, like you
need to apologize to your brother, and I would I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Want to say sorry, yeah, fair enough. Yeah. It's like
the hardest thing for me in the world to do.
I feel like it's like anytime I need to do
any type of scene where I'm crying, I need like
an hour to like figure out like a game plan
how to do it. It's like so difficult, so.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's yeah, well that you can do it, Like I'm
kind of with you. I mean I for me, it's
like right before you know, he's getting ready, they're gonna
roll camera, and I'm like feeling like I'm fucking I'm
so money right now, like like the Emmys are gonna
be stacked up on my shelf. And then action, I'm like,
(11:31):
it's gone, yeah, there it goes.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's like when you have a sneeze and you can't
get it out right away, so it's like and then
it's just gone.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Forever, right, And then half of the scene, I'm like, God,
damn it, you fucked you had it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You really cry very well as well. It really is.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think men have a harder time accessing emotion than
women do. Like we we are sort of almost like
hardwired to be more connected to our emotional you know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I wonder from an evolutionary standpoint, like what that is?
You know what I mean? From a primal place.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There's a book called a Female Brain, and it's really
fascinating because it talks about that Ryan's a lot older
than you, guys then.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, seven years old. I'm turning thirty three in a
few days and Ryan is Yeah, so he's about exactly
seven years older than me. He's eleven years older than Abby.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, okay, And how was that dynamic sort of growing
up as far as the sibling relationships went, you know,
because he was sort of gone, you know, if he's
seven years older, well he's seven years old, right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, he I mean it was probably a different dynamic
because we weren't so close in age. Yeah, I know,
like Ryan and I became a lot closer as buddies,
like when I towards the end of high school for me,
when he was Yeah, so yeah, we became like a
(13:09):
lot better pals end, just because you don't like if
someone's you know, seventeen and ten, that's such a huge
aage gap, but you know when it's you know, twenty
and twenty seven, it's kind of not that big a deal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Ryan and I became really closer around the same time,
Like when I was around seventeen eighteen, we became a
lot closer, but Sensor and I were because we're only
four years apart, so we grew up. But the difference
is like I didn't really get into any fights or
you know, like sibling issues with Ryan because he was
(13:47):
in college and was in and out and Spencer and
I would more it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Also would be pretty weird for like a college kid
to be like picking fights with like a seven year old. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Pretty But it sounds like all of y'all got closer
as you went as you got older.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Probably probably yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
We're all we're all pretty tight knit.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Did you guys grow up very close together?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, we were all I mean like physically. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Well you guys if you started so young, was raising
hell in like the first time you guys worked together?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And then and then that was still like kind of
in the beginning, right, I mean that was my second movie, right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And yeah, I'd already been doing it, I guess for
I don't know, I've been doing it for a while,
I guess at that point.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So yeah, I mean so I guess not that long,
I guess. Yeah, I mean I was ten years old,
so yeah, those are a long three years. Yeah, exactly right, No, Yeah,
but yeah, that was the first time we worked together
at all.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What did it feel like, like, I mean, I'm trying
to think if we've interviewed like child actors, but you know, notoriously.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Sibling like sibling child actor. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Mean it's a difficult. It's difficult anyway, but then you
add like your childhood, and then you add that you
guys are growing up together. You guys are going out
for different jobs, some people are maybe one is working
more than the other. Like did it create a challenging
dynamic for you guys?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I don't think it was really hard when he didn't
get a little in the sunshine and eye got it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think it's probably. I think the reason that there
wasn't like a weird dynamic or like any type of
competitive dynamic was like we're totally different, Like I'm I'm
a guy. She's like like we were never like kind
of going out for similar things. So there was never
this like competitive thing as much as oh, like cool,
(16:10):
you're doing this, you're doing that. Great. We kind of
had our own thing, like yeah, we chattered, we chat
our own thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
If that means did you like being on set? I mean,
was it something you guys loved? Was it you know,
as a child actor, obviously there's challenges. It's an adult world.
Do you get thrown into you know, you can get
fucked up? You know, yeah, how did you guys deal
with all that?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I like being on set. I always enjoyed it. I
never had like I know a lot of people like
who maybe didn't you know, you hear about people like, oh,
I grew up a child actor and I hated it
and I resented and that's here, that's like their own experience.
For me, I've I've always enjoyed it, and I've never
felt like, oh, like I missed out on so much
(16:55):
from being that or this or that. Like I enjoyed
being on set.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I think a lot of that too comes from, like,
you know, the fact that we weren't ever we had options,
like if we didn't want to do it, our parents
weren't going to be like oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We weren't like supporting the family got it.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So it wasn't like that immense amount of pressure. But
I mean we always I always at least had a
lot of fun on set. I don't think it was
until I was like twelve or thirteen when I did
this one movie where I really started liking acting in
terms instead of just loving being on set, if that
(17:35):
makes sense.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, well I just remember also Spencer was a very
like as a kid, you know, he knew what he wanted.
He was like a little man. He had very very
like specific opinions. And oh god, god, you were so
(17:58):
you guys were so cute. It's like, it's so this
is so fun for me because I like really knew
you as kids, ye know, and and your nature, both
of you, your family, your whole family is so sweet.
And then we had Hayden. Uh yeah, you also worked
with Nashville so and she was just like ready to
(18:24):
be an adult. I mean it was like you had
the teenage girl and then you had these like two
that was like ready to be an adult, ready to go,
ready to party, and then you had these like adoor.
I got so lucky with all three of you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Was that was that Owen Wilson.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Movie, No No Raising? Helen Joan Cuzac, John Corbett.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
John Corbett did a little part.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Of Paris Hilton, remember that at the at the at
the restaurant. So did you feel like you had a
normal childhood because I mean, from my point of view,
it wasn't that normal.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I mean I think as normal is it couldn't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Did you go to actual school or were you homeschooled?
We were homeschool yeah, all three of you.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Ryan two, Ryan too, Ryan too. Yeah. Homeschooling predates any
like involvement in showbiz or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah. That was more so because my dad had just
started up his business.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Yeah, they were doing their own thing.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, I mean I know for me, like when I
was around fourteen, I did get into a weird thing
of like getting really obsessed with booking roles all the time.
And that stemmed from one article that I I read
(20:00):
online when I had I was thirteen years old and
I had done a play in New York on Broadway,
The Miracle Worker, and when the show closed, somebody, I mean,
who writes is about a thirteen year old child that
they're like Abigail Breslin star power is waning after the closing.
Oh no, for reading that online and not knowing at
(20:23):
thirteen even what the word waning meant and googling it
and being like, oh god, I have to book rules
like right now or else I'm completely And my parents
had noticed that I was getting very you know, stressed
about looking things, so they made me take about a
year and a half to two years off to just
be with my friends. Oh well, and at first I
(20:45):
was like, I hate you, You're the worst. I think
it was very important that I, you know, took that
time to so that that my dad said it to me,
was like, how can you play a teenager if you
don't know what it's like?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So, yeah, that's that's amazing honestly that your mom saw
that and did that, you know. Yeah, really it's so
easy to say not just keep going, keep chugging it out,
like yeah, but it's like no, no, no, you need
to be a fucking kid, you know, child.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, so I think that's why. But I don't I
don't really know anybody who's had a normal childhood.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think anyone in the world. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sure normal believe it is.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I always I always say there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Well, I mean I'm in the in the when when
you're talking, I mean in the sense of like having
the structure of what most kids are doing on a
daily basis, Like you wake up, you go to school,
you have your after school activities. You know their experience, right,
you play the clarinet.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean I know kids though, who are like in
like really serious like athletics throughout school and high school,
and I feel like their life was more crazy than
uh yeah, the mine wasn't like much more regimented and
all about you know, work for and for them that
could be baseball, footbar, swimming or whatever. So I think
(22:19):
it's all you know, yeah, it's all it's all.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's all relative relative, Yeah, except that you're working mostly
with adults, correct, Yeah, so you're not in an environment
where you're actually socializing with people your own age and peers,
which is a really that's why, you know, when when
people look at the history of child actors, it's like
that peer development is really important. So when you don't
(22:47):
have it, I thank god you guys had each other
in your you know, homeschooling and together had you there's
three of you, but you know, did you did she
put did did your parents put you in any like
after school activities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Or little league? Like we had swimming, we had gym
class for uh like the like we were part of
like kind of like a like a homeschooling group, I
guess in New York. So there was we were in
a cult.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
We were in a cult. But no, and like you
get together and do gym classes. I honestly think living
in New York helped the social aspect because there I
we weren't around like other kids as much in the business.
So it'sn't like going to the playground being like, oh,
who are you repped by?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It was kind of like nonet really care. It was
I had my friends from Little League, she had her
friends from swim class, and it was kind of very
non like when we weren't working on a movie. It
was very much like a non show biz kind of house.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What was the recognition factor, like though you know, well
you guys recognized as kids?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I had more creepy experiences, yeah that where like would
come up and literally physically pick me up, like please
put down my child, like you don't grab my child
and name be like I love it, and I would
cry about like little miss charge And it's when you're
(24:21):
you know, nine years old, that's in the very overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, I had someone, I had someone ask me for
an autograph while I was standing like at a urinal
at out back steakhouse, and I was like, you can
you wait until my hand.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Praps you just pee on them?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like what about the teenagers?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Were you ever rebellious?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I was?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I was quite tell us Spencer, Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, well I heard you're a year and a half sober.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I am a year and a half sober.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I I guess I liked alcohol, uh and maybe I
liked it a little bit too much and uh yeah,
so I you know, but I've I've had my ups
and downs. I guess with that. I don't know related
to show business or not. I think it's just because
I like drinking. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But but but if you're okay talking about it, I
don't care. What was What was the moment where you're like,
you know what I says, I like this too much?
You know what I'm saying, Like I need to I
need to get rid of this in my life entirely.
And I'm I'm semi it's semi relatable because I'm on
a bit of a sober kick, because for sure, Kate knows, like,
(25:44):
you know, I just felt like I was just drinking
too much alcohol, you know what I mean. I I
was still living my life and functioning and being a
dad and yeah, husband and working and all that, but
it was just taking its toll and I couldn't go
have a martini. I'd have like ten.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's that's the whole thing. I think for me, it's
kind of like the old the old saying or whatever.
Ones too many, ten isn't enough. I just I kind
of I lost, like all my motivation. I was pretty
much like waking up to go out and drink with
people all day. And you know, I think a lot
(26:22):
of my friends have it. Like a lot of the
people that I liked being around kind of stopped liking
being around me because I was kind of like just
a drunk and like there was no kind of like
humping the brakes ever. It was kind of just one
hundred percent go, go go, and you got in the
(26:44):
cycle of yeah, just kind of like a really nasty cycle.
And I was like, you know, I really need to
stop this because this is, you know, getting dangerous and
I'm not really living a life.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So what was then, What's been the most surprising part
of your sobriety so far?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was really afraid of how am I okay, how
am I going to be social with people. If I'm
not drinking or doing something else, am I gonna, you know,
get along with people? How am I going to talk
to people? Everyone's going to realize I suck or I'm
(27:24):
not funny or this and that, and I might I'm
still not funny for sure, But.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Are you funny?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Though you were funny and then you subjecting, Now you're
not funny anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it's you know, it's just but it didn't work
out that way. And actually my life's gotten a lot better.
I've gotten a lot healthier. I don't need to wake
up and think like, oh, I really hope I wasn't
a dick to someone last night, or you know, was
I rude to someone or did I say something nasty
(27:59):
or you know, it's you know, and and I like
actually show up to stuff like, yeah, show up to
like I'm not just like blowing stuff off or forgetting
to do.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And the energy I'm sure your energy level is are
like through the roof compared.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, it's like I'm like, I wake up like it's
seven thirty in the morning, I still like do my things.
Oh I used to take like two o'clock and wake
up over and miserable and it would take three four
hours to just get in a groove.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's it's so it's been so strange to see him
in this way, because you know, everybody has their issues whatever.
He's my big brother, and I've been so like proud
of him. Not to be cheesy, I haven't proud of him,
(28:47):
because it's it's really like I think whenever somebody goes
through something like that, it's like, oh, I have like
my my brother back like to being the person they normally,
you know, know him to be. And he's just been
like such a badass like in his journey with that,
(29:08):
and we're very proud of him.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But I love hearing this so much. Spencer, do you
feel like your mental clarity is like a completely different Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We were talking to this doctor Amon who's like a
psychiatrist and he's on Instagram lized a very popular psychiatrist,
and but he was saying, like drinking just alcohol is
just absolutely awful for the brain. Like it just when
you actually see what it does to your brain function,
(29:57):
it makes people just be like, h I'm not gonna
do and and and do that anymore. And the first
thing that people really realize when they stopped drinking in
those first like you know, weeks, is like it literally
it's almost like their whole brain works differently.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean, I I was towards the end of
my drinking. I was, I was drinking about like two
bottles of vodka day. Oh my god, when you cut
that out, there's gonna be like a boost in Uh
it's just because you're basically in a coma when you're
drinking that much.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But yeah, like the first couple of months, I mean,
i'd say in the first like six months to a year,
it's definitely tricky figuring out how to fall asleep. That
was the thing, because and then realizing what sleep actually
is as opposed to passing out. And uh yeah, and
(30:55):
like a roller coaster of emotions. Obviously, I'm feeling stuff
all the time because you've been you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think that some of this started to get worse
after you lost your your father, because I know, and
I'm so sorry to hear that, thank you. Yeah, I've
thought about that.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And I was actually talking with in in a meeting
I go to for my sobriety. I was talking about
this with someone because you kind of you'll think like, oh,
I wonder if this was the reason I drank more,
what was the tipping point? This and that? And I
would go crazy trying to figure it out. And then
I realized, like, okay, I think what it is is
(31:35):
like I'm an alcoholic and it's just what it is,
and I will you know, I can say, oh, my
dad died, I'm going to get drunk, and I did.
I could say, Oh, I booked a movie. I'm going
to go celebrate and get drunk. Oh I got fired
from this job. I'm going to get drunk. Oh I
really great happened. I'm going to get the key part
being I'm going to get drunk.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm being going to be cheesy too. I'm really proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But now we go like dealing with that and then
we'll move on. But like, I'm just curious, as his sister,
how do you approach that? You know? I mean, do
you say you need to get your shit together you're
a fucking alcoholic, or you have to tread lightly? You
have to tread lightly?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, may I say, go do so whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I do.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Remember at one point when he had come to visit me,
at one point on a set of a film that
I was doing and saying to my mom, like, I
knew he was drunk when he came to visit me
on the set, and I was like, I'm concerned because
it's lunchtime on set, which was like, you know whatever
time it was two pm, and I said, and it's
(32:41):
just I you know, it was not so much that
he was hard to be around. It was more so
that I was worried for him. And then he was
the one, though, who came and said, you know, I
gotta I gotta sober up and I gotta get control
of this. And I felt an immense amount of relief
(33:06):
in that moment of Like I remember, I was with
my best friend tailor, and I started crying and I said,
oh my gosh, he's gonna, you know, be healthy, because yeah,
I mean, it's it's hard, but I've also known so
many people who have addiction, and it's not always you know,
people like to make it this really dark, super scary thing,
(33:27):
and there are different levels to it. But I think
him taking accountability and doing what he needed to do
to feel better has been awesome for him and awesome
for everybody that knows and loves him because he's he's
doing so well now and we're super happy. Not that
he was. It wasn't like he was you know, right
(33:48):
cars into you know, telephone pools or anything. But you
know it's.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Pretty high functioning, but not not really functioning at all.
It was all kind of a house of cards.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, of course, and there's probably so many it's dodged
during you know what I mean, like a billion of them.
Just it could have been this. It could have been that,
you could be jail, you call one hundred person, could
have killed someone in a car. I mean like all
that hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Very very lucky, Yeah, very grateful that my life is
so good right now.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, you got married. You're a married, married lady. Now
do you have kids yet or no?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I have my two fur babies, but one that house
far and then my other cat, Yoda, who's in the
other room sulking. He's a hairless cat. But you know,
that's on the that's on the horizon. I have my
mother in law and my own mother, you know, asking
me every day when I know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Of course, everyone once they're all ready, they're like ready
to get to just get their hands on a baby.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Oh yeah, no, but I'm I'm starting. I've just been
starting to get that because there were a couple of
years where I was like, maybe I'm just not the
type of person who's going to have kids, you know
what I mean. And only in the past year or
so I've been like, like, my friend had a baby
and I'm like, oh God, and this sounds but like,
I want to eat you. I can't. You know, when
(35:14):
babies are so cute you want to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Consume them, like bite their faces.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, I'm about to go, like your legs swallow a
baby hole. In an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I was going to get my hands on that baby legs,
the little like ringing legs, and I'm like, oh, I
want to kill you. So I've been definitely starting to
get that.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, what have you been working on recently?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I did this movie with my friend Tyler Shields called
Chapter fifty one. That's really cool. It's like the Zones
on Imax. It's very very, very cool, excited, and I
play an actress in it. So that's really out of
my wheel.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Hume couldn't relate to it at all.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, and then I've been working on my album and
he does music, and.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yes, when did you? When did you guys get into music?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I mean, we we grew in a house that appreciated
music a lot. So I mean I started playing in
like dumb bands and stuff like that when I was
like thirteen, and then you know, playing around the city
and then you know, kind of just like little punk bands.
Don't get mad at me.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
But he was in a band when he was like,
wortn't called not quite Dead yet?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Was it metal?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We were? Yeah, we were, we were. I think the
band had an identity crisis what kind of music we
were playing, because we'd play, you know, one day, you know,
we're a bunch of thirteen fourteen year old boys, so
one day someone'd be like, oh, play System of a Down.
Oh let's do this, like a lot of covers and
then a couple of original songs that I hope I've
(37:09):
improved somewhat a lyricist and writer and all that since then,
But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Kind of I don't know. System of a Down is
a great start. Oh no, System of ADAD you're on
you're on an upward trajectory.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The System of a Down was great. I'm talking about
our stuff. We wrote kind of something. All the covers
we played were we had great taste in music, just
like our execution for our own stuff was not the best.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Into his room and he would be on garage band
and he'd be like, ah, I need you to like
bang your hair brush against like the ladder for the
bunk bed. And I was like, wow, I am a musician.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Right like I made it like I am a recording artist,
but not quite down yet. It yeah, fucking genius for
thirteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I mean exactly because we're literally not yet.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's a genius name.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Really, we're really tough.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh my god, when are you planning on? I mean,
how far along are you with your album?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's basically done. I'm just I have some used to
go on Spotify right now, but I don't go under
my name. I go under my artist's name, which is Sophomore,
and it's like very you know, singer songwriter pop.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's good fun, it's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
It's it's fun, it's fun, and you do such great music.
Thanks amazing.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, I'm just I love hearing that you guys are
doing this. I'm going to get off and listen immediately.
I'm mad that I didn't, but I uh to do Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I know beyond like I usually do my research.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't know, but you have not.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'm mad you don't like celebrate the entire and not
quite dead yet.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yes I should know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, you need to bring back that band. Go find
your old buddies and make it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We have a residency at the Sphere coming.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, so guys, we always end our podcast with a
two part question. The first part is, you know, what
is it about your sibling that you wish you had
more of, something that you would love to be able
to emulate. And then what is the one thing about
your sibling or one thing about your sibling that you
(39:46):
wish you could alleviate that you could, you know, kind
of remove from them so that they could have a
better life experience.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I would say I wish I had sensors Resillliams. He's
a very resilient person and he really shows up all
the time and it has a really strong sense of
like responsibility that I really admire. And the one thing
(40:18):
I wish I could take away from him is I
just and I think this is true for like everybody,
but I wish that he like saw what everybody else
sees in him.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I was gonna just like do
like a snarky joke, like, oh I wish I could
cry on cue.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, Abby's Abby's a great uh great at bringing
people together and like just like always like hosting like
good parties or like always like just figuring out the
right combination of people to have around. I mean, I
have great friends too, but but like she's very good
(41:00):
at just like getting cool groups of people together.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Really that's very high com And then I.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Would say, maybe, uh, I wish she could be on
time to dinner a bit. If the reservations at seven fifteen,
I'm ordering it, I'm ordering a quarter to eighty.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
But I said the same thing I said, I wish
that I was more on time.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I wanted to say one thing to Oliver because nobody
remembers this from screen queens, and I really hope that
you do. Do you remember that scene where you have
to say the word macob.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah of course I could not. Oh yeah, yeah, I
didn't imagine that in my head, right, No, no, I
couldn't get it out. It was macabre. McKay bro was
like I can't get it. It's like it's mccob. I'm like,
but there's an R. I could not get.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It and not saying macab on Q, cannot cry on Q.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
So remember my cob because it's m A c A
b r E. I think it's how.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
You spell it, the name of an Irish cop.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And it just fucked me up. And I could And
you know when you you you're coming to that word
in your dialogue and you're like, ohh here it comes, here,
it comes.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's like it's a fuck, the one that broke you.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
I didn't imagine that in my mind.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Thanks, that's real. That's real, you guys. I love saying so.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Much, coming on and sharing everything.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yes, and congratus on your sobriety body. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Thanks, Yes, love you love you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's so crazy how big I mean, I mean you
you know, because you haven't seen since they were little,
little little. I mean I saw Abigail. I mean, I
can't believe this ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
It's almost too much. It's like they're real adults, like
you got.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
There's so much older there, adults. An adults is a woman,
you know.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
It's so weird. That was great. I loved it all right.
Bye bye ah
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling. Raivalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
I worked with Abs that's what they call her because
I don't have any apps. On Scream Queens. That was
quite set, quite the set. Yeah, I was the old
man on that set. You were with Jamie Jamie Lee.
But it was a bunch of young ands and me
and Jamie Lee. You know, I tried to be cool
(00:59):
and young and hip and it didn't work. So I
just stayed in my place in the New Orleans. Didn't
didn't integrate very well. Now anyway, let's bring them in there.
They've been waiting in the waiting.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Okay, okay, how are you guys.
Speaker 4 (01:16):
We're we're doing good.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
We're good.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Well, let's just jump right right in. Okay, So where
were you guys? Born?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
New York? Yeah, you're like New York City? Any hospital?
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Yeah I was, but yeah, oh you were.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
And I always think about it because in friends, like
when Phoebe gives birth and friends. That like kind of
roundish building. That's where I was born in. Yeah, that
My mom really went to all the different hospitals for
all three of us.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
I feel like, I say, there's another sibling, yes, yes,
Wait what's your other siblings name?
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Ryan?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
How old is Ryan?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
He just turned forty, just turned forty two days ago,
So yeah, what's the order here.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Ryan, I'm in the middle.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Spec he's the youngest baby.
Speaker 3 (02:07):
Yeah, Oh my god. And she was a little baby
when we worked together, and she was you were so
cute and it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Almost forty nine.
Speaker 4 (02:20):
Oh my god, Oliver, when we worked together, I was
like nineteen.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
I know, that's fucking crazy.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh my god, that was ten years ago.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Was that ten years ago?
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Years ago? Not?
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Yeah, I can't even It's insane.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
And raising Helen was twenty two years ago.
Speaker 3 (02:39):
Twenty two years ago, pretty nuts?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Was like, what was what was it like growing up
in the city? I mean, were you allowed the freedom
to roam and explore or was it strict or.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Odd?
Speaker 1 (02:55):
I mean, I I don't know, I guess about the
I don't know. It was just what do you.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
Think we have like a kind of like a block
radius of where we could.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Yeah. I mean when I when I turned like thirteen fourteen,
I started going off on my own doing stuff and
you know, hanging out with friends and playing in bands
and stuff like that. But before that, you know, we
weren't like just like wandering around the city like totally unaccompanied.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:25):
That didn't happen until I was like sixteen seventeen when
I started doing that. But yeah, but what I liked
about growing up in New York I was younger.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
Because I'm a boy, so I got the game earlier.
Speaker 4 (03:36):
It's not safe for the women exactly, yeah, exactly, wilderness.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I was able to offend for myself.
Speaker 4 (03:41):
Yeah, yeah, I was more so. But we were also
because we were acting. We were traveling so much, so
we weren't really in New York for massive amounts of time.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Yeah, on the road affair amount, Yeah, like a lot
in La.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Yeah, Spencer, weren't you already working like when you were
little doing didn't you?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
I started doing like commercials and stuff when I was three? Yeah,
I agree, And I started off. My first one was
a My first two were like a Life cerial commercial
and a McDonald's commercial with Charles Barkley. Uh. And then yeah,
then it just kind of went from there.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
It was cool.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
I thought it was burking for some reason.
Speaker 1 (04:29):
Why I was trying to it was a Mickey D's commercial.
Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah wait, so this was obviously I mean, you're three
years old, who You're not making many life choices. Did
your parents sort of say, look, we're going to get
you guys into commercials and get you into that.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
So there the origin story or whatever was uh uh.
It's I always laugh at this now because it seems
like so weird now as an adult. But when when
I was like in that eight when I was like three,
for there was just like indoor playground in Manhattan that
I used to go to. And it's funny now they
(05:05):
used to send like talent scouts out to like the
playgrounds to be like, oh, cute kid, really weird kind
of like, oh the kid's really adorable, like.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
You just like somebody goes up to like the Karen
and it's like, I think your child is beautiful.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
So now yeah, it's you're pretty hot kid.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
No, so it's uh yeah, So then I started doing commercials.
Uh just I I had a good time doing them,
I guess, and then kind of kind of kind of yeah,
where I was discovered.
Speaker 2 (05:47):
No, yeah, but Ryan, Ryan didn't have didn't have what
it took.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Huh, just zero interest, zero interest. He doesn't want to
be in front of the camera. I think he did
do like a cameo in Raising Helen. I think him
and his buddies.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
Oh uh yeah, when we're like we were supposed.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
To they were supposed to play like I think like
CD kids in a playground or something like that, like
the like The Bad Element or whatever.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
God, because Gary don't even remember that.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Well Gary, like anyone you showed up to set, Gary
would just be like, oh, you want to do a
part in the movie.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
Oh my god? Remember when he I'll never forget when
you were ordering the drink when he was just yelling
out five hundred million different drinks. Yeahore telling you that
was my favorite, telling me when to Singapore Sling.
Speaker 4 (06:37):
I always because I did a movie with Gary. Also,
after I've aught we both did Princess Diary's too. Yeah,
after Raising Helen, and then I did New Year's Eve
with Curry and I'll never forget he called my mom
uh before because in New Year's Eve, I was like
fourteen years old and it's like we have me and
(06:59):
this other boy that was in the movie We have
a kiss, you know, and he said to my mom like,
I don't want to be lude heard. He was the best,
the best, He was the best. That's such a fun
movie because we did a lot in l a and
(07:20):
we did a lot in New York. And I remember, Kate,
you like were so cool because when we wrapped, I
was very sick that day.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I was starving.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
Yeah, thank you, speaking everywhere. But you took Spencer to
Swartz and I remember being like, I didn't care that
I was sick because I wasn't doing a good job
in the film. Was six years old. I because I
was like, damn was going to.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Kate?
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Kate, you took Spencer to.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was great.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It was just the two of you.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
Well like it was well, who else was with us?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
No, it was I think my mom was.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
There and there was someone else who.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
Was there and like my assistant or I remember, yeah,
I think so it's just a couple of us.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I remember when Abby was all sick and Gary came
up to the room. It was like, have you tried
like saltine crackers?
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Abigail, I'll take you to fish once again.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
I didn't down now, but can American girl doll store exactly?
Speaker 3 (08:32):
I remember, this is such a great There's this scene
where I'm teaching her. I'm teaching her how to or
she's just trying to tie her shoes and I come
into the room and she's just like, you know, crying
because the last time she was learning how to tire
shoes was with her mom. And I, oh my god,
(08:54):
I could not get through this scene. Abigail could make
herself crush. I mean, she is so years old, she's
Wannie's age, crazy and she you are accessing something that
was so like pure and incredible, and everybody was just like,
oh my god. It was just heart wrenching. I'll never
(09:16):
forget it. You're sitting in that little.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Let me ask you a question. Actually, this is interesting
because that's six years old. I don't know. I'm sure
you have recollection of it, but how are you able
to do that? Meaning even you and then moving into
sort of other children watching some of these kids being
able to access emotion and make it so real. You know,
how do you remember how you did that where you
(09:42):
went at six to be able to do that or
were you just so in the moment of what the
scene was.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
No, I think there's something wrong with me. I think
I try to work through this in therapy from time
to time. I don't really you know why, I no,
I think.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Like, uh uh, I I don't really.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
I see it as a lot of like a mechanical thing.
I can make myself cry very easily. It's really great,
like in terms of in my real life, like I
can manipulate my husband really well. I would cry to
my dad about getting things. No, I'm kidding, but I'm
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not so. I don't know. I don't know. I think
I was always just it's my party trick. I can.
I can cry very yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:38):
Oh and break your heart. Now you're not just crying.
It was just like it was like heartbreaking.
Speaker 4 (10:43):
Now the older I got, the older I got, the
more I, you know, would actually think about it. But
my mom could just say something to me, like you
need to apologize to your brother, and I would I didn't.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Want to say sorry, yeah, fair enough. Yeah. It's like
the hardest thing for me in the world to do.
I feel like it's like anytime I need to do
any type of scene where I'm crying, I need like
an hour to like figure out like a game plan
how to do it. It's like so difficult, so.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
It's yeah, well that you can do it, Like I'm
kind of with you. I mean I for me, it's
like right before you know, he's getting ready, they're gonna
roll camera, and I'm like feeling like I'm fucking I'm
so money right now, like like the Emmys are gonna
be stacked up on my shelf. And then action, I'm like,
(11:31):
it's gone, yeah, there it goes.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's like when you have a sneeze and you can't
get it out right away, so it's like and then
it's just gone.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
Forever, right, And then half of the scene, I'm like, God,
damn it, you fucked you had it.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
Stupid, stupid, stupid.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
You really cry very well as well. It really is.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I think men have a harder time accessing emotion than
women do. Like we we are sort of almost like
hardwired to be more connected to our emotional you know.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
I wonder from an evolutionary standpoint, like what that is?
You know what I mean? From a primal place.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
There's a book called a Female Brain, and it's really
fascinating because it talks about that Ryan's a lot older
than you, guys then.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, seven years old. I'm turning thirty three in a
few days and Ryan is Yeah, so he's about exactly
seven years older than me. He's eleven years older than Abby.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Yeah, okay, And how was that dynamic sort of growing
up as far as the sibling relationships went, you know,
because he was sort of gone, you know, if he's
seven years older, well he's seven years old, right.
Speaker 1 (12:48):
No, he I mean it was probably a different dynamic
because we weren't so close in age. Yeah, I know,
like Ryan and I became a lot closer as buddies,
like when I towards the end of high school for me,
when he was Yeah, so yeah, we became like a
(13:09):
lot better pals end, just because you don't like if
someone's you know, seventeen and ten, that's such a huge
aage gap, but you know when it's you know, twenty
and twenty seven, it's kind of not that big a deal, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:23):
Ryan and I became really closer around the same time,
Like when I was around seventeen eighteen, we became a
lot closer, but Sensor and I were because we're only
four years apart, so we grew up. But the difference
is like I didn't really get into any fights or
you know, like sibling issues with Ryan because he was
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in college and was in and out and Spencer and
I would more it.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Also would be pretty weird for like a college kid
to be like picking fights with like a seven year old. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Pretty But it sounds like all of y'all got closer
as you went as you got older.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
Probably probably yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
We're all we're all pretty tight knit.
Speaker 4 (14:11):
Did you guys grow up very close together?
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Yeah, we were all I mean like physically. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Well you guys if you started so young, was raising
hell in like the first time you guys worked together?
Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (14:36):
And then and then that was still like kind of
in the beginning, right, I mean that was my second movie, right.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
And yeah, I'd already been doing it, I guess for
I don't know, I've been doing it for a while,
I guess at that point.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
So yeah, I mean so I guess not that long,
I guess. Yeah, I mean I was ten years old,
so yeah, those are a long three years. Yeah, exactly right, No, Yeah,
but yeah, that was the first time we worked together
at all.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
What did it feel like, like, I mean, I'm trying
to think if we've interviewed like child actors, but you know, notoriously.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Sibling like sibling child actor. Yeah, yeah, I.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
Mean it's a difficult. It's difficult anyway, but then you
add like your childhood, and then you add that you
guys are growing up together. You guys are going out
for different jobs, some people are maybe one is working
more than the other. Like did it create a challenging
dynamic for you guys?
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I don't think so.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
I don't think it was really hard when he didn't
get a little in the sunshine and eye got it.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
I think it's probably. I think the reason that there
wasn't like a weird dynamic or like any type of
competitive dynamic was like we're totally different, Like I'm I'm
a guy. She's like like we were never like kind
of going out for similar things. So there was never
this like competitive thing as much as oh, like cool,
(16:10):
you're doing this, you're doing that. Great. We kind of
had our own thing, like yeah, we chattered, we chat
our own thing or whatever.
Speaker 2 (16:16):
If that means did you like being on set? I mean,
was it something you guys loved? Was it you know,
as a child actor, obviously there's challenges. It's an adult world.
Do you get thrown into you know, you can get
fucked up? You know, yeah, how did you guys deal
with all that?
Speaker 1 (16:33):
I like being on set. I always enjoyed it. I
never had like I know a lot of people like
who maybe didn't you know, you hear about people like, oh,
I grew up a child actor and I hated it
and I resented and that's here, that's like their own experience.
For me, I've I've always enjoyed it, and I've never
felt like, oh, like I missed out on so much
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from being that or this or that. Like I enjoyed
being on set.
Speaker 4 (16:58):
I think a lot of that too comes from, like,
you know, the fact that we weren't ever we had options,
like if we didn't want to do it, our parents
weren't going to be like oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
We weren't like supporting the family got it.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
So it wasn't like that immense amount of pressure. But
I mean we always I always at least had a
lot of fun on set. I don't think it was
until I was like twelve or thirteen when I did
this one movie where I really started liking acting in
terms instead of just loving being on set, if that
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makes sense.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Yeah, well I just remember also Spencer was a very
like as a kid, you know, he knew what he wanted.
He was like a little man. He had very very
like specific opinions. And oh god, god, you were so
(17:58):
you guys were so cute. It's like, it's so this
is so fun for me because I like really knew
you as kids, ye know, and and your nature, both
of you, your family, your whole family is so sweet.
And then we had Hayden. Uh yeah, you also worked
with Nashville so and she was just like ready to
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be an adult. I mean it was like you had
the teenage girl and then you had these like two
that was like ready to be an adult, ready to go,
ready to party, and then you had these like adoor.
I got so lucky with all three of you guys.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Was that was that Owen Wilson.
Speaker 3 (18:43):
Movie, No No Raising? Helen Joan Cuzac, John Corbett.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
John Corbett did a little part.
Speaker 3 (18:58):
Of Paris Hilton, remember that at the at the at
the restaurant. So did you feel like you had a
normal childhood because I mean, from my point of view,
it wasn't that normal.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Probably not.
Speaker 4 (19:13):
I mean I think as normal is it couldn't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Did you go to actual school or were you homeschooled?
We were homeschool yeah, all three of you.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
Ryan two, Ryan too, Ryan too. Yeah. Homeschooling predates any
like involvement in showbiz or anything like that.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Yeah. That was more so because my dad had just
started up his business.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Yeah. Yeah, they were doing their own thing.
Speaker 4 (19:39):
Yeah, I mean I know for me, like when I
was around fourteen, I did get into a weird thing
of like getting really obsessed with booking roles all the time.
And that stemmed from one article that I I read
(20:00):
online when I had I was thirteen years old and
I had done a play in New York on Broadway,
The Miracle Worker, and when the show closed, somebody, I mean,
who writes is about a thirteen year old child that
they're like Abigail Breslin star power is waning after the closing.
Oh no, for reading that online and not knowing at
(20:23):
thirteen even what the word waning meant and googling it
and being like, oh god, I have to book rules
like right now or else I'm completely And my parents
had noticed that I was getting very you know, stressed
about looking things, so they made me take about a
year and a half to two years off to just
be with my friends. Oh well, and at first I
(20:45):
was like, I hate you, You're the worst. I think
it was very important that I, you know, took that
time to so that that my dad said it to me,
was like, how can you play a teenager if you
don't know what it's like?
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:07):
So, yeah, that's that's amazing honestly that your mom saw
that and did that, you know. Yeah, really it's so
easy to say not just keep going, keep chugging it out,
like yeah, but it's like no, no, no, you need
to be a fucking kid, you know, child.
Speaker 4 (21:25):
Yeah, so I think that's why. But I don't I
don't really know anybody who's had a normal childhood.
Speaker 2 (21:31):
I don't think anyone in the world. Yeah, I don't know.
I'm sure normal believe it is.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
I always I always say there's a lot of people.
Speaker 3 (21:39):
Well, I mean I'm in the in the when when
you're talking, I mean in the sense of like having
the structure of what most kids are doing on a
daily basis, Like you wake up, you go to school,
you have your after school activities. You know their experience, right,
you play the clarinet.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
I mean I know kids though, who are like in
like really serious like athletics throughout school and high school,
and I feel like their life was more crazy than
uh yeah, the mine wasn't like much more regimented and
all about you know, work for and for them that
could be baseball, footbar, swimming or whatever. So I think
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it's all you know, yeah, it's all it's all.
Speaker 3 (22:22):
It's all relative relative, Yeah, except that you're working mostly
with adults, correct, Yeah, so you're not in an environment
where you're actually socializing with people your own age and peers,
which is a really that's why, you know, when when
people look at the history of child actors, it's like
that peer development is really important. So when you don't
(22:47):
have it, I thank god you guys had each other
in your you know, homeschooling and together had you there's
three of you, but you know, did you did she
put did did your parents put you in any like
after school activities and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
Or little league? Like we had swimming, we had gym
class for uh like the like we were part of
like kind of like a like a homeschooling group, I
guess in New York. So there was we were in
a cult.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That's what it was.
Speaker 1 (23:18):
We were in a cult. But no, and like you
get together and do gym classes. I honestly think living
in New York helped the social aspect because there I
we weren't around like other kids as much in the business.
So it'sn't like going to the playground being like, oh,
who are you repped by?
Speaker 4 (23:36):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
It was kind of like nonet really care. It was
I had my friends from Little League, she had her
friends from swim class, and it was kind of very
non like when we weren't working on a movie. It
was very much like a non show biz kind of house.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
What was the recognition factor, like though you know, well
you guys recognized as kids?
Speaker 1 (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
I had more creepy experiences, yeah that where like would
come up and literally physically pick me up, like please
put down my child, like you don't grab my child
and name be like I love it, and I would
cry about like little miss charge And it's when you're
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you know, nine years old, that's in the very overwhelming.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, I had someone, I had someone ask me for
an autograph while I was standing like at a urinal
at out back steakhouse, and I was like, you can
you wait until my hand.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Praps you just pee on them?
Speaker 3 (24:37):
Like what about the teenagers?
Speaker 2 (24:44):
Did it?
Speaker 4 (24:45):
Did you?
Speaker 3 (24:45):
Were you ever rebellious?
Speaker 1 (24:50):
I was?
Speaker 3 (24:51):
I was quite tell us Spencer, Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:55):
Yeah, well I heard you're a year and a half sober.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
I am a year and a half sober.
Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
I I guess I liked alcohol, uh and maybe I
liked it a little bit too much and uh yeah,
so I you know, but I've I've had my ups
and downs. I guess with that. I don't know related
to show business or not. I think it's just because
I like drinking. So yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
But but but if you're okay talking about it, I
don't care. What was What was the moment where you're like,
you know what I says, I like this too much?
You know what I'm saying, Like I need to I
need to get rid of this in my life entirely.
And I'm I'm semi it's semi relatable because I'm on
a bit of a sober kick, because for sure, Kate knows, like,
(25:44):
you know, I just felt like I was just drinking
too much alcohol, you know what I mean. I I
was still living my life and functioning and being a
dad and yeah, husband and working and all that, but
it was just taking its toll and I couldn't go
have a martini. I'd have like ten.
Speaker 1 (26:01):
That's that's the whole thing. I think for me, it's
kind of like the old the old saying or whatever.
Ones too many, ten isn't enough. I just I kind
of I lost, like all my motivation. I was pretty
much like waking up to go out and drink with
people all day. And you know, I think a lot
(26:22):
of my friends have it. Like a lot of the
people that I liked being around kind of stopped liking
being around me because I was kind of like just
a drunk and like there was no kind of like
humping the brakes ever. It was kind of just one
hundred percent go, go go, and you got in the
(26:44):
cycle of yeah, just kind of like a really nasty cycle.
And I was like, you know, I really need to
stop this because this is, you know, getting dangerous and
I'm not really living a life.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
So what was then, What's been the most surprising part
of your sobriety so far?
Speaker 1 (27:03):
I was really afraid of how am I okay, how
am I going to be social with people. If I'm
not drinking or doing something else, am I gonna, you know,
get along with people? How am I going to talk
to people? Everyone's going to realize I suck or I'm
(27:24):
not funny or this and that, and I might I'm
still not funny for sure, But.
Speaker 3 (27:34):
Are you funny?
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Though you were funny and then you subjecting, Now you're
not funny anyway.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, it's you know, it's just but it didn't work
out that way. And actually my life's gotten a lot better.
I've gotten a lot healthier. I don't need to wake
up and think like, oh, I really hope I wasn't
a dick to someone last night, or you know, was
I rude to someone or did I say something nasty
(27:59):
or you know, it's you know, and and I like
actually show up to stuff like, yeah, show up to
like I'm not just like blowing stuff off or forgetting
to do.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And the energy I'm sure your energy level is are
like through the roof compared.
Speaker 1 (28:15):
Yeah, it's like I'm like, I wake up like it's
seven thirty in the morning, I still like do my things.
Oh I used to take like two o'clock and wake
up over and miserable and it would take three four
hours to just get in a groove.
Speaker 4 (28:26):
It's it's so it's been so strange to see him
in this way, because you know, everybody has their issues whatever.
He's my big brother, and I've been so like proud
of him. Not to be cheesy, I haven't proud of him,
(28:47):
because it's it's really like I think whenever somebody goes
through something like that, it's like, oh, I have like
my my brother back like to being the person they normally,
you know, know him to be. And he's just been
like such a badass like in his journey with that,
(29:08):
and we're very proud of him.
Speaker 3 (29:10):
But I love hearing this so much. Spencer, do you
feel like your mental clarity is like a completely different Uh?
Speaker 1 (29:20):
Yeah, for sure, Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
We were talking to this doctor Amon who's like a
psychiatrist and he's on Instagram lized a very popular psychiatrist,
and but he was saying, like drinking just alcohol is
just absolutely awful for the brain. Like it just when
you actually see what it does to your brain function,
(29:57):
it makes people just be like, h I'm not gonna
do and and and do that anymore. And the first
thing that people really realize when they stopped drinking in
those first like you know, weeks, is like it literally
it's almost like their whole brain works differently.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
Yeah, I mean, I I was towards the end of
my drinking. I was, I was drinking about like two
bottles of vodka day. Oh my god, when you cut
that out, there's gonna be like a boost in Uh
it's just because you're basically in a coma when you're
drinking that much.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
And I.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
But yeah, like the first couple of months, I mean,
i'd say in the first like six months to a year,
it's definitely tricky figuring out how to fall asleep. That
was the thing, because and then realizing what sleep actually
is as opposed to passing out. And uh yeah, and
(30:55):
like a roller coaster of emotions. Obviously, I'm feeling stuff
all the time because you've been you know whatever.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
I think that some of this started to get worse
after you lost your your father, because I know, and
I'm so sorry to hear that, thank you. Yeah, I've
thought about that.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
And I was actually talking with in in a meeting
I go to for my sobriety. I was talking about
this with someone because you kind of you'll think like, oh,
I wonder if this was the reason I drank more,
what was the tipping point? This and that? And I
would go crazy trying to figure it out. And then
I realized, like, okay, I think what it is is
(31:35):
like I'm an alcoholic and it's just what it is,
and I will you know, I can say, oh, my
dad died, I'm going to get drunk, and I did.
I could say, Oh, I booked a movie. I'm going
to go celebrate and get drunk. Oh I got fired
from this job. I'm going to get drunk. Oh I
really great happened. I'm going to get the key part
being I'm going to get drunk.
Speaker 3 (31:56):
I'm being going to be cheesy too. I'm really proud
of you.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
But now we go like dealing with that and then
we'll move on. But like, I'm just curious, as his sister,
how do you approach that? You know? I mean, do
you say you need to get your shit together you're
a fucking alcoholic, or you have to tread lightly? You
have to tread lightly?
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Well, may I say, go do so whatever you want.
Speaker 1 (32:18):
I do.
Speaker 4 (32:19):
Remember at one point when he had come to visit me,
at one point on a set of a film that
I was doing and saying to my mom, like, I
knew he was drunk when he came to visit me
on the set, and I was like, I'm concerned because
it's lunchtime on set, which was like, you know whatever
time it was two pm, and I said, and it's
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just I you know, it was not so much that
he was hard to be around. It was more so
that I was worried for him. And then he was
the one, though, who came and said, you know, I
gotta I gotta sober up and I gotta get control
of this. And I felt an immense amount of relief
(33:06):
in that moment of Like I remember, I was with
my best friend tailor, and I started crying and I said,
oh my gosh, he's gonna, you know, be healthy, because yeah,
I mean, it's it's hard, but I've also known so
many people who have addiction, and it's not always you know,
people like to make it this really dark, super scary thing,
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and there are different levels to it. But I think
him taking accountability and doing what he needed to do
to feel better has been awesome for him and awesome
for everybody that knows and loves him because he's he's
doing so well now and we're super happy. Not that
he was. It wasn't like he was you know, right
(33:48):
cars into you know, telephone pools or anything. But you
know it's.
Speaker 1 (33:52):
Pretty high functioning, but not not really functioning at all.
It was all kind of a house of cards.
Speaker 2 (33:57):
Yeah, of course, and there's probably so many it's dodged
during you know what I mean, like a billion of them.
Just it could have been this. It could have been that,
you could be jail, you call one hundred person, could
have killed someone in a car. I mean like all
that hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (34:12):
Very very lucky, Yeah, very grateful that my life is
so good right now.
Speaker 2 (34:17):
So that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (34:19):
Yeah, you got married. You're a married, married lady. Now
do you have kids yet or no?
Speaker 4 (34:27):
I have my two fur babies, but one that house
far and then my other cat, Yoda, who's in the
other room sulking. He's a hairless cat. But you know,
that's on the that's on the horizon. I have my
mother in law and my own mother, you know, asking
me every day when I know.
Speaker 3 (34:46):
Of course, everyone once they're all ready, they're like ready
to get to just get their hands on a baby.
Speaker 4 (34:52):
Oh yeah, no, but I'm I'm starting. I've just been
starting to get that because there were a couple of
years where I was like, maybe I'm just not the
type of person who's going to have kids, you know
what I mean. And only in the past year or
so I've been like, like, my friend had a baby
and I'm like, oh God, and this sounds but like,
I want to eat you. I can't. You know, when
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babies are so cute you want to.
Speaker 2 (35:22):
Consume them, like bite their faces.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
Yeah, I'm about to go, like your legs swallow a
baby hole. In an hour and a half.
Speaker 4 (35:31):
I was going to get my hands on that baby legs,
the little like ringing legs, and I'm like, oh, I
want to kill you. So I've been definitely starting to
get that.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Yeah, what have you been working on recently?
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I did this movie with my friend Tyler Shields called
Chapter fifty one. That's really cool. It's like the Zones
on Imax. It's very very, very cool, excited, and I
play an actress in it. So that's really out of
my wheel.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Hume couldn't relate to it at all.
Speaker 4 (36:07):
Yeah, and then I've been working on my album and
he does music, and.
Speaker 3 (36:11):
Yes, when did you? When did you guys get into music?
Speaker 1 (36:18):
I mean, we we grew in a house that appreciated
music a lot. So I mean I started playing in
like dumb bands and stuff like that when I was
like thirteen, and then you know, playing around the city
and then you know, kind of just like little punk bands.
Don't get mad at me.
Speaker 4 (36:36):
But he was in a band when he was like,
wortn't called not quite Dead yet?
Speaker 3 (36:43):
Was it metal?
Speaker 1 (36:45):
We were? Yeah, we were, we were. I think the
band had an identity crisis what kind of music we
were playing, because we'd play, you know, one day, you know,
we're a bunch of thirteen fourteen year old boys, so
one day someone'd be like, oh, play System of a Down.
Oh let's do this, like a lot of covers and
then a couple of original songs that I hope I've
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improved somewhat a lyricist and writer and all that since then,
But maybe not.
Speaker 2 (37:15):
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (37:16):
Kind of I don't know. System of a Down is
a great start. Oh no, System of ADAD you're on
you're on an upward trajectory.
Speaker 1 (37:25):
The System of a Down was great. I'm talking about
our stuff. We wrote kind of something. All the covers
we played were we had great taste in music, just
like our execution for our own stuff was not the best.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
Into his room and he would be on garage band
and he'd be like, ah, I need you to like
bang your hair brush against like the ladder for the
bunk bed. And I was like, wow, I am a musician.
Speaker 2 (37:51):
Right like I made it like I am a recording artist,
but not quite down yet. It yeah, fucking genius for
thirteen year olds.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
I mean exactly because we're literally not yet.
Speaker 2 (38:06):
It's a genius name.
Speaker 1 (38:10):
Really, we're really tough.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Oh my god, when are you planning on? I mean,
how far along are you with your album?
Speaker 4 (38:17):
It's basically done. I'm just I have some used to
go on Spotify right now, but I don't go under
my name. I go under my artist's name, which is Sophomore,
and it's like very you know, singer songwriter pop.
Speaker 1 (38:37):
It's good fun, it's good stuff.
Speaker 4 (38:40):
It's it's fun, it's fun, and you do such great music.
Thanks amazing.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
Yeah, I'm just I love hearing that you guys are
doing this. I'm going to get off and listen immediately.
I'm mad that I didn't, but I uh to do Yeah.
Speaker 1 (39:00):
I know beyond like I usually do my research.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
I don't know, but you have not.
Speaker 1 (39:06):
I'm mad you don't like celebrate the entire and not
quite dead yet.
Speaker 3 (39:10):
Yes I should know.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
Yeah, you need to bring back that band. Go find
your old buddies and make it happen.
Speaker 1 (39:19):
We have a residency at the Sphere coming.
Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, so guys, we always end our podcast with a
two part question. The first part is, you know, what
is it about your sibling that you wish you had
more of, something that you would love to be able
to emulate. And then what is the one thing about
your sibling or one thing about your sibling that you
(39:46):
wish you could alleviate that you could, you know, kind
of remove from them so that they could have a
better life experience.
Speaker 4 (39:55):
I would say I wish I had sensors Resillliams. He's
a very resilient person and he really shows up all
the time and it has a really strong sense of
like responsibility that I really admire. And the one thing
(40:18):
I wish I could take away from him is I
just and I think this is true for like everybody,
but I wish that he like saw what everybody else
sees in him.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, I was gonna just like do
like a snarky joke, like, oh I wish I could
cry on cue.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (40:39):
I know, Abby's Abby's a great uh great at bringing
people together and like just like always like hosting like
good parties or like always like just figuring out the
right combination of people to have around. I mean, I
have great friends too, but but like she's very good
(41:00):
at just like getting cool groups of people together.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
Really that's very high com And then I.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Would say, maybe, uh, I wish she could be on
time to dinner a bit. If the reservations at seven fifteen,
I'm ordering it, I'm ordering a quarter to eighty.
Speaker 2 (41:23):
Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
But I said the same thing I said, I wish
that I was more on time.
Speaker 3 (41:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:28):
I wanted to say one thing to Oliver because nobody
remembers this from screen queens, and I really hope that
you do. Do you remember that scene where you have
to say the word macob.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
Yeah of course I could not. Oh yeah, yeah, I
didn't imagine that in my head, right, No, no, I
couldn't get it out. It was macabre. McKay bro was
like I can't get it. It's like it's mccob. I'm like,
but there's an R. I could not get.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
It and not saying macab on Q, cannot cry on Q.
Speaker 2 (42:00):
So remember my cob because it's m A c A
b r E. I think it's how.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
You spell it, the name of an Irish cop.
Speaker 2 (42:08):
And it just fucked me up. And I could And
you know when you you you're coming to that word
in your dialogue and you're like, ohh here it comes, here,
it comes.
Speaker 1 (42:16):
It's like it's a fuck, the one that broke you.
Speaker 4 (42:25):
I didn't imagine that in my mind.
Speaker 2 (42:26):
Thanks, that's real. That's real, you guys. I love saying so.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
Much, coming on and sharing everything.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Awesome.
Speaker 2 (42:37):
Yes, and congratus on your sobriety body. That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
Thanks, Yes, love you love you guys.
Speaker 2 (42:44):
It's so crazy how big I mean, I mean you
you know, because you haven't seen since they were little,
little little. I mean I saw Abigail. I mean, I
can't believe this ten years ago.
Speaker 3 (42:54):
It's almost too much. It's like they're real adults, like
you got.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
There's so much older there, adults. An adults is a woman,
you know.
Speaker 3 (43:03):
It's so weird. That was great. I loved it all right.
Bye bye ah
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