September 29, 2025 • 50 mins
What's it like when your dad is the Piano Man and your mom is the Uptown Girl? Kate and Oliver get a front row seat when siblings Alexa Ray Joel and Jack Brinkley-Cook join the revelry!
They take us through the height of their parents' careers, to the downfall of their marriage, and right back to the glue that keeps this family together forever!
Plus, Alexa Ray gets real about the racy kissing scene in her new music video!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Railval No, no, sibling, You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
What are you drinking the yummiest protein shake?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Did you make it or did one of your people?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You're such an ass. No, I got it from creation.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh you did. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I just put it in the freezer and then I
redo it so it's really cold and like smoothie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Here's I'm having breakfast issue because I get lazy, Like
I ate an enchilada chicken enchilada for breakfast. But when
you really think about breakfast, because I was going over
this in my head, if I put an egg on it,
it would be breakfast. You know what I'm saying. It's
still it's still protein, it's still cheese, it's still put
(01:19):
an egg on corn tortilla.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, just take it, take a taco, put an egg
on itm in here with well, not really enchilada more like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, but if I put an egg on the enchilada,
it would still be breakfast so if I ordered the
breakfast enchilada with no egg, it would still be breakfast.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
By the way, you're speaking like my family, Like in
the Japanese culture, breakfast is like miso soup and rice
and Danny and I were even talking about how we
should get more into like Japanese breakfast because it's actually
so wholesome.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, you've got something pickled. It's really good for your gut.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Usually mes soup in the morning is like yummy.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Do you eat fish in the morning?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sometimes, well, what you would eat smoked trout, Well you
eat smoked salmon.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's got to have like a breakfast quality.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, that's kind of like the Japanese.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I wouldn't mind some like salmon sushi in the morning, Like.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, a little bit, like a little like a little mea.
So it's like it's actually really nice. The Japanese breakfast
is very very good.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So it's not every you know.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's only like American look sausage, potatoes, eggs, yum. I
just got a new kitchen. I just redid my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know, I saw it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's insane, Alie. But the best part is is the
new ovens do things that are like so eating, make
everything so easy. I have a speed cook of it
now that can cook like hash brown potatoes in like
nine minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Wow, it just gets up to like nine hundred degrees
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh yeah, it just goes a convection of it, so
it just goes really hot, like real fast cooks it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Then you can crisp them in there for like a minute,
and like for the kids, I can make them like
little like diced potatoes and onions in the morning in
like nine minutes. It's amazing. Yeah, you got to get
one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's really cool. They're probably like six billion dollars. No,
they're not.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They're really affordable.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Because I do need a new oven. I need a
new kitchen. I've been trying to hustle up some sort
of HGTV show, like calling every host like, hey, you
want to do me for like a special. I'm just
getting nose.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I want to start a YouTube channel for all of
my design things because I'm always doing it. I think
I'm going to do it, and and we can do
your kitchen get it like sponsored.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We will. You'll have to pay for some of it
and then babies. We'll get a partner. You listen, I'm
excited to talk to these youngs.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah. We don't want to leave them waiting. We don't
to leave them waiting.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Today I have to say their mom. I feel like
was like your first.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Real oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, well it was because
of first of all, Uptown Girl, the video, and then
you've got you know, vacation in the Red Ferrari and
at the pool, which is unforgettable. I come in for everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, in the eighties, that was like one of the
great moments of all time.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, yeah, Kristy Brinkley was it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I mean it's like she's still it. She's so hot.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, she's so hot.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's insane. Her energy, Yeah, everything I look at her.
Oh my stylist used to style her sometimes when she
was in New York and said she was just like
the greatest, most inspiring woman because she's just so filled
energy and happy.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And she's so very joyful. I know. Well, let's see
if it rubbed off on any of these kids. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, so we got Alexa Rayjel and Jack Brinkley cook
yep JBC is what I like.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
To call him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Do you want to let him in, Allie.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, let him in.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Going on, guys, Hey, guys, where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Are you in me? Are you east coast?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We're east coast? Yeah, actually at our family house. So
oh nice in sag Harbor.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh, I love it. I'm jealous. Is it pretty or
is it starting to get fall and cool?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It's so perfect. It's like early, like seventy three, like
just September.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I love it. My son, my son, I will I'll come.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
My son just took a picture of himself like a
week ago and was like, because he's in New York,
he's at NYU and he just goes my first last
day of school because he's graduating, which is insane.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I can't even God. And he facedtime me the other
day and I was like, oh, it looks like so
beautiful in New York. I was jealous.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I just want to go wait wait, sag Harbor. Is
that the Hamptons.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, it's like the it's like upper it's on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The up, but it's considered the Hamptons.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Really heaven, it's the most beautiful. I mean, I'm a
little biased.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
We grew up bias, we grew up here.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But it's the most beautiful town in the Hampton's because
you got the harbor front.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I got to go experience at Hampton's again. I've done
it one time when I was like nineteen twenty or
twenty one years old. Yeah, and I ended up on
like seven thousand years of ecstasy in a pool all
day and it was. It was the most disastrous weekend
in terms of my health.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'll never forget. He came back from the Hampton's and
had eaten his higher mouth off.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, it was very well what happened.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, you're a little scarred to come back.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, Yeah, that was it. I was like, I'm never
coming back to this place again. I just need to.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Come here, Like this is months to be here. It's
a little trafficking in the summer, but this is falling.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I gotta give it. I got a chance.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I like the Hamptons when it's off season.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
The winter is absolutely the best set here.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's what my friends say. Who has like who live
in the Hamptons. I actually have a friend who was
in the city and then moved her family to the
Hamptons and put the kids in school there, and she said,
it's the best thing I've ever done.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
She just loves it.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Grow up in a more grounded as someone that's sort
of been in school at Nightingale, Bamford and then PCs
in the City Professional Children's School. I've had both the
Hampton's country and city experience, and I can just tell
you that people are more grounded out here.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
It's very different.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Then I went to BCS, I was like, what's this.
They're like doing coke in the bathrooms, like a very
different situation.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, so big time.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
We were pretty like kind of sheltered and just low key.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Did you did you guys grow up in the city.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
We grew up out here and Siger did. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And then basically one year I was at school in
the city night in Gale, Bamford, which is very posh,
very upper Cress, very you know, clicky, and I was
kind of terrified and my mom was like, Okay, she's
not doing well. This was in when I was in
fourth grade, so I guess I was ten. And then
we moved back here out here because it was I
(08:46):
don't know, it just wasn't working for me.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And I think that's so nice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So you guys, are you guys? Are you guys? Are
half we have a half but do you consider does that?
Does that even does that vernacular even come up when
you're talking about each other or is like brother and sister.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It's so funny hearing you say that, because I always
forget because he's just my like.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, we don't even I don't ever consider it. We
never like I never would describe a lex as my
half sister to ever to us, She's just like we're.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Just like when you just said it, I was like, oh, yeah,
I have to remember that we're but because it doesn't
feel that way. We're close.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, that's how we are.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
What's the age gap?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
When is the age gap nine years?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So that is a denial of age. I'm not a
fan of numbers.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I know, I said I'm forever thirty four. I mean
mentally like it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Just like all kinds of things are going to happen
and change, but like I'm always thirty four.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Like you're young at heart, you're.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Young forty nine, and you know age. I never gave
a shit about age fifty. I think might not sting,
but at least make me think. But I have a
theory about age. I'm just gonna if you if I
told you now I'm seventy one. It's like, oh shit,
you look good, so you might as well go older
and then you look better.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I mean, I hear, I think it's easier. I totally
get that perspective. But as a woman, there's a lot
of built in misogyny, like the minute you say your age,
Oh why aren't you married yet?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Had kids yet?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
You know? So for me, I think it's I don't know, o, Kate,
if you oh yeah, I love to just like let
people guess and just keeping Jack and I are ten
years apart.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Now wait, now you have a third though, right? And
is he middle or is he younger?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Sailor?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Our little sister's she's three years younger than me. So
I am thirty. I just turned thirty two two months ago.
So I went through that little bit of shell shock
that I guess Oliver you're going to go through. And
my younger sister's twenty seven, and alexis thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He told it, Oh you told on me.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Wait how old are you guys?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Forty sixty nine?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You're forty six. See, it doesn't it doesn't register.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like if you take care of yourself and you are warm,
like the beauty from I don't know, resonates from within
to without, and you I just it's more of a glow.
It's like who cares about the number?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I also think women like I went to I remember
going to a couple of years back, my twenty year
high school reunion and the girls looked great and the
guys looked awful.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like the girls all look great.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They've got a little boattogs, the little thing like they're
working out.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
They look so good. The guys, I was like.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wow, wow, I feel like girls take care of her.
And we just like we you know, like we are
just a little bit more ritual. We have our rituals
and we like to make ourselves.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I mean, hold on, yeah, absolutely, this one relies on
his good genes. Yeah, I have to, Like, I have
to have my rituals or I look like shit.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's just like, I don't know, but men age better,
according to you guys, right, we age better?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No better is the wrong word. Differently motter with age,
which is yeah, it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, it's like the structure, it's like your face shirts.
Something that happens some some guys. Some guys they get
older and they're like, you know, the way that their
face changes is.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very different than the way a woman's.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Face has gotten his he's like, what would you say,
salt and pepper, distinguished, distinguished gray as they call it,
And he looks like he's sexier to me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Just also he's matured a lot and work on himself.
So it's it's both right, it's not just looks, but like, oh,
something about that salt and pepper.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Mine is getting that too, like in his beard and
like in the badm Like, oh it is, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, it shows wisdom. But I also think women with
silver hair, like the ones that i've like that crazy.
I just think it's so beautiful when their hair is like.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, some women if they're into it, and you
can tell that they're comfortable with it, like you can
feel the energy they pull it off. Beautiful. Andy McDowell looks,
she looks unbelievable. Look at her and think, I don't
know if I'm going to be one of those girls,
because I you know, you don't like, I'll probably be
dying my hair if I'm being like honest with you. Yeah,
(13:42):
And let's not have this cycle of shame for women.
If they want to facelift, great, If they don't want
to get a facelift, I know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Let it go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, by the way, you know how many dudes are
getting facelifts. Yeah, like big famous star.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You know what I think. I don't think there's anything
wrong with one to look like the best version of you.
What I find unfortunate is when a girl, and I
know that this happens in our current superficial looks obsessed society,
where a young girl will take a picture of a
celebrity and bring it to her surgeon and say, make
(14:17):
me look just like this girl. Yeah, to me, that's
an unfortunate preprieve product of it. Not to sound cliche,
but you got to love yourself. And if you see
one little tweak and you want to you know, tweak,
it good for you. But to want to change everything
(14:37):
to the point that you're not.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Even you anymore, I know that's sad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's always like one of those things you just hope that,
you know, it's one thing to be like, Oh, I
remember I have my ears stick out right, and I
really like when I was little I wanted to or
when I started to get older, I was like, God,
I just want to get them back because they always
stick out and I can't put my hair up.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And I also called her Dumbo.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He also traumatized me, right.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I always said to Kate and said, okay, okay, look
there's a breeze. There's a breeze picking up. Better you better,
you better latch down, You're gonna fly away.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I mean I have to say, like Sailors more the
one that teases me. I'm very lucky with Jack because
he's just always like so complimentary, so supportive, but you
big cist, like he really just respects my tenure.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And how was that growing up?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Big grow because he's so much my little big.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Because the nine years is a pretty good difference, Like
how did that work? How did you guys get close?
You know, what was it like growing up with someone
who was like your little man? Essentially?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, you know, we got close later in life, I
think because it's he was more with Sailor when you
guys were like really little, because that's a huge age difference.
And I was an angsty teen, so I was sort.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Of very much introverted.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
And then just I would say, the last what fifteen
years well so in adult in our adulthood.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
When when I was ten years old, she was nineteen
years old and already moved out of the house. And so, yeah,
going back to being which difference hits then, yeah, and
going back to being in the Hampton's was What was
especially cool was when I got to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
years old and the Hampton's weekends weren't cutting it anymore.
I used to go and stay with Alexa in the
city anymore. And my mom was very strict and she,
(16:35):
you know, she gave me a strict twelve am curfew
when all my other friends had like a one am curfew,
a two am curfew. And Alexa was amazing because I
would stay with her. And I think that she sometimes
used a little bit of discretion where when I would,
you know, come home thirty minutes late, she wouldn't get
me in trouble. But she was strict enough with a
few times when it was like three in the morning
(16:57):
and three thirty in the morning the next day. Oh,
I was probably.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Added out your little brother.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Well, you know, I'm I'm a real homekeeper, so with
my apartment, I'm a little bit of a OCD like
neat freak. So if things aren't just the way I
want them, there's a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
She's a hyper neat freak. She everything she does is meticulous.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
So yeah, see the flowers in the bat.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I like to keep things.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What's you're signed?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Eat things pretty? Does you get like I get stressed
if there's clutter around?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah. I don't like clutter, hate it. I'm a Capricorn, okay, and.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
You I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No idea.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So yeah, because I guess if you've a nine year
difference and you're like, you know, seventeen coming into the city,
and I mean you're well into your life, where were
you when did you get married?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I actually I haven't gotten married yet. I'm still engaged.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Oh my god, I think maybe you're I don't know,
I'm the same, You're.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
The same, like I like, I don't know. I like
keeping it fresh. Yeah, we've actually been we've been together
for twelve years.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's right, it's been a long time.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And I know you with Danny, right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I don't subscribe to the labels anyways. I do want
to get married to him, and he is the love
of my life, you know, And we just haven't gotten
around to it, but you know, when we do, I
think next year we want to plan like the perfect wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I was engaged for almost three years, so you
were I got well because that was the idea. The
idea was like, there is no rush, let's enjoy being
in love and having fun with the engagement. What is it?
What is marriage anyway? Honestly, and we're still basically married.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I totally agree. And the way I see it is
like kind of me and Ryan have been together longer
than a lot of marriages have lasted twelve years, so
it's it's it's all relative, you know, and time flies by.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So how many? How many? How do you do you
like to be? Like, how do you say your name?
Do you just say Alexa? You just say Alexa?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Ray you know I used to do Alexa or alex,
but since that damn freaking Alexa robot Amazon Echo thing.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Oh no, oh yeah, everybody's.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Bordering Alexa around Alexa. Do this, Alexa, do that?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
It actually causes some issues, Like I'll be on the
phone with someone and they'll say hey, Alexa, and they'll think,
we'll go what would you.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Like to do?
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Like because of that, I do, Alexa.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Ray, Okay, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, yes, but you have how many siblings do you
have all together?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
We have it's just me, Jack and Sailor Joseph.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Okay, so it's just the three of you.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Hold a sailor now twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Sailor's twenty seven. And then Alexa has two additional half sisters.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Right, yeah, on my on my father's end.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right, So mom has three and three dads.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Correct, yeah, yes, like me.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
You know, we're a modern family.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It works, it seems to work.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Curious where are you guys? I love the background of
where you are.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It's so homeye oh, I'm in LA, I'm in my office.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm in my son's room, okay, and Ollie's in is
that what? I'm in Bodie's room.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That's where body lives.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now, wait, the difference between a man's room and a
woman's room.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I'm in Bodie's room. It's just exact exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So, so so you're so let's start Alexa. Let's start
with you. So you she you grew up. You were
eight years old when your parents divorced. Dad's Billy Joel,
Mom's Christie Ray, we got to get into the parents because,
like I was saying to Oliver before you guys got
on that that was clearly Oliver's like first like one
(21:15):
of his big crushes was your mom.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Oh of course, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Like the hottest, like the Ferrari you know, vacation situation
was like your mom was just everything.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, iconic, the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But you came out of like the like they were
just such a couple, you know, and when when they
broke up, would do you like, do you remember it?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I was nine. I was nine years old when
they divorced, and yeah, I mean, you know, they were
my world and we were the three Musketeers. So we
were always together, singing would you know, bring me out
on the road. And we were very just sort of
like a musical family, always singing together, always putting on
(22:09):
a show. And so yeah, it was it was a
shock to me. But you know, you should you should
probably watch my father's documentary and so because it really
delves into all of that and the pressures that my
father was going through at the time he had to
go back on the road when he just wanted to
stay home with me and Mom because his manager at
(22:32):
the time ripped him off and stole hundreds of thousands
of dollars, and so he had to get back on
the road and make that up. And that was a
part of you know, that was a part of maybe
it was more. It might have been millions actually no recounting,
so that that was a big strain. I sometimes wonder,
(22:54):
you know, there's a there's a there's a pros and
cons to everything, because I sometimes wonder, well, if the
man hadn't come into the picture and he didn't have
to get back on the road, maybe they would have
stayed together. But then I wouldn't have my wonderful you know.
I mean, you know, life is funny. But I do
believe that they were soulmates. And it was a dream
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childhood I grew We're talking about how great sag Harbor is,
but I grew up in a further lane, which is,
I don't know, arguably the most beautiful area in East Hampton,
and we lived in a beautiful sort of like Tuscan style.
It was a dream. It was like a story book.
Everything you could imagine out of a storybook childhood I
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was very blessed to have. And you know, I look
back at it, and it almost seems like this beautiful
dream because it was. It was just you'll see in
the documentary just it was a really magical time.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
And so you basically like that one year difference nine
year difference is I mean you were really raised an
only child.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
For a very long time.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, And so when when your bro came along, how
did that feel?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I was happy as could be. I mean Jack was
the most energetic, happy, just always smiling. I was always
singing to him. My mom she films everything. You'll see
a lot of the footage in the documentary. Always got
to before we had phones. She had one of those
old school video cameras on her shoulder, and so you know,
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she captured all the footage. I used to sing to him,
We used to play. He was very active, wanted to
be outdoors. I've always been more of an indoor gal.
So you know, I don't know. I think we kind
of compliment each other in our differences. But we didn't
get close till I till we were both young adults, because,
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like I said, at that point, there is such a.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Huge age gap that.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It just gave us an opportunity to relate to each other.
More by the time he was in his I don't know,
late teens, early twenties.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
We're all very different, like our little sister, Sailor is
very different from Alexa, and we're opposites like you and.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Author explain that, like, how are you guys different?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Well, so I would say that sale Alexa tends to
lean to again, to be a little bit more of
a homebody. She's very comfortable in her environment and and
my sister's Sailor is probably the antithesis. She seems to
always be out.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And introvert versus extrovert. Yeah, I'm an introvert. She's an extrovert.
I like to be at home, playing the piano.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Honestly and eating.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
The way you could be opposite. They kind of, for
the most part, are She's new.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Real tough gal. She'll speak her mind. She's really outspoken.
She's and everyone always me is more the innocent one
for some reason. It's just you know how it is
like when you're sailings, a lot of times your opposites,
your opposite characteristics can be magnified, which is a good thing.
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I think.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Yeah, Sailor is an innocent Sailor.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Is No, I don't mean it in a bad way.
I mean like she's like she's like a badass, like
she's she'll speak her mind, she'll you know, she's just a.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Very outgoing personality.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Outgoing And what about you, Jack, how do you fit
into this dynamic?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I'd like to think I'm a little bit of a
hybrid between the two. I'm you know, I like to
go out and I'm social and I but social but yeah, yeah,
but I'm definitely less rigid than than our little sister Sailor, who,
to Alexis point, can be she she's very opinionated and
and makes her opinions very clear and in a great way.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Jack, you're very open minded, like you can always he
can see both sides of everything. You're very diplomatic.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
How did mom manage the family? Like the unit? So
you've got three dads?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I know Alexi you're a little bit older, but with
you and Sailor, especially Jack, Like, how did she manage
the unit? And did it really feel like you guys
were one unit or was there a lot of spreading
out based on where the dads were or.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I mean my experience is that we always felt like
one unit. I think that probably when Yeah, my mom
got her last divorce. I think it brought us all
closer together, naturally, you really did. And that was the
moment where we like really unified, and.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
We unified around my mother too, because she was going
through it, and so it gave us a real sense
of solidarity. And you know, I mean, there's nothing like
when you can relate to going through a divorce. We
both experienced that, and then it did. It kind of
bonded us closer together, and now we all couldn't be closer.
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I mean, you know, Jack doesn't go a day without
speaking to my mom. I don't go a day without speaking.
And she's the best mom in the sense that she worries.
She wants to make sure everybody's okay. If she doesn't hear,
you know, from us for too long, She's like, I
just want to make sure you're okay, you know. So
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we're tight knit, just like you guys, like you can
see it and you're a little I follow Kate on
Instagram and I'm such a fan by the way. I
just love her thing and it's you can feel that
genuine closeness.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's so great. I can I can see that with
Christy on you know, with you guys.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
She's Oh yeah, she's a little bit of a warrior,
and in a good way. I drove out from the
city to the Hamptons last night. It's a two hour drive,
and probably every ten to twelve minutes my phone would
ring and it was my mom, you know, checking in
making sure.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
That you hadn't crashed.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Yeah, she called me ten minutes ago. I'm ten minutes
further up the road.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
We're good, exactly. That is funny.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Oh, it sounds like me.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It sounds like Kate. And I was about to say
that just wants.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
To make sure everybody's okay. She's such a mama bear.
She's also super conscious of the environment, health. She's always
trying to make us aware of Okay, this is good
for you, this is not good for you. She's just
she's that real nurturing mama bear type. And you know,
I'd rather it's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's interesting how Jack you were saying that, you know,
sort of the last divorce is which brought you guys together.
You guys are kind of saying that or what solidified
you know, the unit essentially is that is that? How
do you what why do you think that is? Is
it just sort of rallying around each other and the
support that it takes to sort of get through whatever
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it is you have to get through.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
I think it was a very I think the last divorce,
particularly too for my mother was was a was a
bad one, and so by you know, sort of directly
because of that, we, like Alexis said, sort of rallied
around her and wanted to show our support. And inevitably
that brought our my siblings and myself closer together as
a result of doing that. But I don't mean to
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say that and that there wasn't It wasn't like pre
divorce we were all separated. I mean my even before
Alexi moved out of the house, and again she moved
out of the house when I was ten years old,
because she is nine years older than me. I still
up until that point, I have a tremendous amount of
you know, incredible memories still when she was still you know,
going to the same high school here in East Hampton
that I went to. But I think it was I
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think it was really the the idea of rallying around
our mom that it did.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, sometimes it takes like these big moments to sort
of that kind of kick something into a different dynamic.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know what I mean. Comply your mom needed you, she.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Needed us, and we were there. And also, you know,
Jack is a big music lover, and so he's always
he's like my biggest supporter. Like any song that comes out,
he's like, I downloaded it, I'm playing it. He'll blast
it in the house the other day, was blasting some
tracks of mine.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I know you have a single out River Sideway. I
just watched the video. I was very sexy.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I know that that's your guy, right, that's your dude
in the in the in the video.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
That's my fiance Ryan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes. Yeah, because I was watching it too, and there
was a moment in the backseat of a car where
you sort of straddle him and then you start kissing,
and I'm like, that feels like someone she knows. I
literally was thinking that, you know. I was like, that
doesn't seem like an actor.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Can I just say how impressed I am with both
of you as actors, because to me, the idea they said, well,
who do you want to get for this video? I said,
my guy, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Make out with a stranger.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
I just feel like, Wow, I'm so impressed that you
can just break that ice, because Ryan and I've had
twelve twelve years to break that ice. And so what
was really comfortable on camera?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And you know, it was I had a moment like
this at work the other day where I was making
out with somebody and I did, I did at this
moment where everybody is just filming and you know, and
we're so used to it, you.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Know, and uh, nothing to you, it's like nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And then I I said to my friend who who
is playing the guy, and I was like, it's so
crazy that we are just like making out and then
we're like anyway, so yeah, oh my god, yesterday my
kids like they start to were kids and your partners
and but you're just it's like the it's the crazy
as weird as life we live.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I mean, like that's.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Why I say, I think it's amazing. It's I don't know,
because I was just even surprised with all the cameras
that I was so comfortable doing a love scene with
him in the truck. But then you know, once I
think it's just about I don't know, you would know
better than me as a as an amazing actress, but
it's just about locking in because we were just looking
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at each other like I sort of forgot that the
cameras or anyone was looking to lose that self consciousness.
Self consis is the worst, and I'm a very hyper
aware person.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
But you got to get rid of all that and.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Just be in the moment. And that's kind of what
Riverside Way is about. I wanted to channel my bad girl.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I know, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I loved it. I was like, oh, Collex, right, but wait,
so so that was the moment?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Wait, Jack, hold on, Jack. When you watch your sister
in the video like making that, are you cool? I
mean you're like, okay, No.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I was cool with it. Honestly, I was most impressed
with her. Beyonce Ryan, who is, obviously, she mentioned, not
a trained actor and I don't think has a lot
of experience in that fielding.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And he looks so handsome and he's so he looks
so cool.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
He looks so good. I mean, beyond being obviously impressed
with her, that was that was probably what came to
mind first.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, well that's good, but there's always got to be
something I got ship. There's my sister like like tongue down,
even if it's your you know, it's like when when
Kate posts Instagram where her ass is like shaking around everywhere,
I'm like, all right, we're good.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know you know what I think I've seen it
comment or too from you like yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, I think I like just following me then like
mute me.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
No, there was one recently that I didn't comment on.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think I saw Summer.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Don't out buns out or something.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, what's.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Closely?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yes, I do all of her loves putting like, oh
so you're you can put your ass out on Instagram,
but I do, and you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Have you know what's fucked up? I put my ass
on Instagram, like I get it gets taken off. Yeah,
you and every other influencer who's on only Fans puts
their ass and everything else on Instagram. They're cool, they're cool.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Youriminated at all?
Speaker 7 (35:10):
How often are you putting your ass on Instagram?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like you know every third fourth post?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Is it's relative? Because here I am thinking I wrote
like this edgy song and oh you know this is
a real sexual vibe, but it's it's it's really not
when you compare, like every everybody's doing whatever they want,
Like Sabrina Carpenter is you know a sex she wants
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to be and there's really no rules, And I don't
think you're really challenging yourself as an artist if you
stay in one box or one lane and you know
one the ballad girl, the piano girl, the good girl.
I just wanted to step outside of that.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah does it? Doesn't it feel good?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
It feels great?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Creating.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You know, art is for taking rests. Yeah, you got
to be able to take risks.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And by the way, with that comes the chance of failure,
and it's important to do that. Like to put yourself
out there's hard, but like if you're not taking the risks,
you're never going to know how far you can go.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
You got to just do it and then let go
of whatever people think about it, because I know, for me,
like even doing the video, I'm not looking at the
comments on YouTube or anything. I know, because as a
sensitive gal, i'd probably start, I don't know, crying.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
There's a funny sort of misunderstanding from the outside in
when you grow up with very famous parents, how critical
people are on you when you're young. When you're it's like,
so you're under this microscope before you've even chosen to
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be an artist, or to be kind of like want
to be out in the world as an actor, or
you know, there are certain certain kids that are that
are far more kind of criticized than others Like I.
I growing up, I always felt whether it was in school,
whether it was you know, it's a theater class and
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music class and all the things that I did. The
second they found out or anyone found out what my
who my family was, or immediately I felt so much
extra criticis there was there was sort of a different
kind of criticism that I'd receive.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Oh yeah, because there's also that underhanded feeling of oh
she had it handed to her, she grew up with privilege.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, right, no matter how hard you work or how
in love you are with the arts.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I honestly think that's the fucked up thing about this
nepo baby, you know, sort of wave it is mainly
directed at the arts, you know, actors, writers, musicians, which
is bullshit because nepotism exists across all businesses, across all occupations.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In fact, I think as an artist, you know, you
have to prove yourself. Yes, it's like hard, yeah, it's
part can get in the door, but you still have
to be good, you still have to fucking deliver.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, Alie Jeanie Buzz said to me, which I realized
it was really interesting. She said, eighty something percent of
families get into the business.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
They're the same business.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's inevitable. And why not. I mean, you grew up
with it. I grew up hearing music my whole life,
with my father writing these incredible songs and playing Gershwin
and playing sound in music, and like I had this
really classically amazing, diverse musical repertoire that I was raised with.
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It's just it becomes a part of you, you know,
because you know theaters in your blood too, Kate, and
I mean, you develop a love for it. I think
it's a beautiful way to kind of carry on the
family legacy, irregardless of you know, I'll never be my father,
and we're different in many ways, and I may never
achieve that same level of mainstream success or when you know,
(39:13):
everybody has their own version of success these days. But
it's I think it's a beautiful thing to carry on
a family legacy and just do you. And like I said,
people are going to have things to say, you know,
it's always a mixed bag now online. Right, I always
feel like there's no middle ground, like they either love
you to death or they freaking hate you and want
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to see you you know, just go down in flames. Right,
But but you got to just stay true to you
and do My father he says, you do what you love,
and you love what you do and damn the rest.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
And you know, would you does your does your dad
listen to your music and does he give you a
critique and advice on stuff that you do? Or is
he kind of let your hey girl, go do your things,
go do your shit.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
He's so supportive, but not in a like showbiz father way.
He's just like, do you like like Riverside way doesn't
sound like anything that he would have written, very much
a departure from his style, so he was sort of
taken aback and he's like, oh, you know, good for
you for not like staying in that same kind of
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comfortable niche that perhaps would be expected of me as
his daughter. Because I like to show I know, you know,
Kate's very diverse with her choices too. You don't want
to just do comedy right or just do so I
like to show, Okay, I can do ballad. I can
do a fiery, little kind of banger, And I think
it's just about mixing it up and doing what you want.
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I don't really follow a playbook. I know my father
doesn't either. He's a real non conformist. He's done the
doop stuff and the tinpan alley stuff, and then he's
done even stuff that sounds more, and then he's done
more classical, and then he's done more you know, real
rock and roll songs. So I think it's just about
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playing and having fun.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Do you write all your own music? I do? And
do you work with anybody when you're writing?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I work alone. Jack's heard me. I just I just
play at the piano.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Really, so you should you write all that just by yours,
just by yourself?
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Riversideway, I was, I don't know if you're a bathtub
gal Kate, but I got it. I can't sleep unless
I take a hot bath at night. One night and
just it was a late night at three am, I
was just thinking about, like, oh, what if I were
like playing this alter ego character. And I was thinking
of a few wild, rare, uncharacteristic, wild nights I had
(41:44):
out and I just heard folks Sigurs, Dream Go Day,
met a bubble on the roop and it just kind
of came out.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
That's so fun.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I love writing.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I've been writing music my whole life, and then only
in the last couple of years have I been doing
real writing sessions with different writers, and I love writing
with people.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I have so much fun, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, especially just it's great connecting with different people and
like yeah, understanding how they work and how they think, and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Certain people it's kind of hard to.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Like get in there with each other, and then some
people you just start to flow and it's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
But see you seem as like more of a total
extrovert to me, which is amazing. I wish I could
be more extroverted. My father, I'm like my father. My
Dad's a true blue introvert. He sits there and he
gets into his own world. He writes alone, he goes
through every feeling he's ever had. And I think I
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kind of caught that, you know, writing alone, bug if
you will, from him, because it's so it's kind of
it's sort of thrilling to just go into your own
lens and your own world and just go with it.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's like your own dream world, you know, and Jack,
you just you didn't want to get into the business
in any way. I'm assuming what's.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Funny is I actually went to acting.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
School, so he's a great actor.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
I did go to acting school. I I I pursued
improv more than anything else. But quickly coming after, quickly
after I got out of acting school, my mom he said,
you need to get a job, and you know, I'm
going to give you a month to three months to
figure it out. And it was within that period that
I ended up launching the company that I still have
(43:36):
to this day. And so it.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Wasn't Yeah, by the way, how is Rove doing.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I've heard, I've good would explain what it is.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Yeah, So basically one day having OLIVERR. Not really been
to the Hampton's, I'm not sure if you'd be super familiar,
but there's a bus service that everybody I know Hampton's
and yeah, it's called the Hampton Jitney. Yeah, it's active,
but it's the experiences. You know, probably it is not
the nicest experience in the world, and I thought that
(44:06):
there would be room to sort of elevate the experience,
given that it is the Hamptons and you know, it
is a luxury market. And so we launched a direct
service between Manhattan, Brooklyn and singular towns and the Hamptons
on Mercedes Benz sprinter vans to offer an upgraded program.
And that was the year before COVID, and so the
(44:27):
following year COVID strikes. People don't want to travel together.
But luckily the county that the Hamptons are in, Suffolk County,
was looking for a local transportation company to help fight
traffic in the Hamptons and drunk driving, and they had
a grant and a bid, and so we actually transitioned
the program from a ride share service between the city
(44:49):
and New York to an internalized ride share service where
we actually provide free rides within the Hamptons that are
all powered by advertisers. So you get into a vehicle
where the vehicle is wrapped on the exterior by an advertiser,
the interior has iPads that take consumer data information and
we're able to provide free rides where otherwise an uber
in the Hamptons is fifty dollars to go five minutes
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down the road. No, that's what we'd become now.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
So savvy behind me, savvy this one.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Different than what she does.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
I have really no business savvage.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Just so you're an entrepreneur aually, this is what you
want to do.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
I guess you could say that, Yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Usually do like our little ending question all you want
to ask them what that is?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, every we do this with everybody. And it's kind
of a two part question about you guys. You guys
can answer if you could emulate something, take something from
your sibling that you wish you had yourself, what would
it be? And on the flip side of that, if
you could alleviate something from them that you know would
(45:58):
make their life experience a little but better, what would
that be?
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, that's a loaded.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Question, okay, As something popped up in my mind just
now as Oliver was saying that I wish I had
Jack's flexibility. He's very flexible. He can he could be
in any situation and you know, just make it work.
He's a great traveler. He's he's not like so baked in.
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I'm such a homebody and introvert and kind of I
love to live in my own fantasy world so much
that I think it's limiting for me, like in terms
of branching out he'll he can branch out and make
anybody anything a home, make anybody feel at home. He's
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so good with hosting, He's always hosting. It's a true,
it's a true extrovert quality. So I wish I had
your flexibility.
Speaker 7 (46:57):
And if I was thinking about with a lux of
I think that Alexa is probably the most caring person
in the world. And I don't think that there's anybody
that's ever met Alexa and just doesn't love her. And
so I suppose, I suppose if I could take one
quality from her, it would be her caringness, because I've
seen over my life how how that has impression people,
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and and truly everybody just just loves Alexa.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So that's great. And then what would you alleviate there less?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
Sometimes I care so much, I think to.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
I, guess what Alexa was saying is the the personality
trait that she would take from me? I guess if
I if I would alleviate one thing of Alexa, I
think that she I would give her some of my
flexibility and some of and and exactly I think maybe
sometimes Alexa, you you you you you can you really
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consider what people think of think and you know, I
know She mentioned she doesn't like to look at the
comments and stuff like that, and I think, to a
certain extent my head, yeah, you know, I think that
I would take away a little bit of the the overthinking. Hm.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Oh for sure, I wish I could.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Please take it away.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I think one thing we have in common. We both
get some anxiety. We both struggle with anxiety and this
anxiety inducing world. And I know what that's like, and
it can be hard to just shut your brain off.
I know that he has a little anxiety that he
goes through sometimes because he as he says, I'm so caring,
but you're always worried about everybody too. You want to
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make sure mom's okay, You want to make sure everybody's okay.
Maybe I'd like to take some of your anxiety away.
I have a thing that I say when I get anxious,
where I say, just float, Like I say it in
my head. Oh I like that, just float, you know, yeah,
because it can be hard for people that are.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Always either float or pop some lexipro you know. I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Try to work through it mentally. I know why people
go to substances because this world is so crazy right now,
everything's so overstimulating. But if you say in your head
just float, try it sometimes.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yeah, just flows amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
You guys are the best. I'm coming to sag Harbor please.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I know me too. I need another experience with the Hamptons.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Yeah, seriously, we extra no no art studio.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
You could stay here, welcome anytime. And you know we
watched Almost Famous at least once a month around.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Or anything.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, it's our twenty fifth anniversary yesterday. Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
Oh my god, I know relations it's timeless.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
All right, beauty, you guys, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
This is fun.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, I will see you soon.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Bye bye. Cool.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
They're so great.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I know, it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
They're so cute. That was so nice, Christie. And also I.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Love hearing I want to go to the Hampton Harbor
is amazing. It's really beautiful. Yeah, but just like their
mom sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
And and Alexa Ray is so cute.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
She she is like really like so happy and positive
and it's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And it's like a Disney character.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, it's like Cinderella, Like all is in a bird.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
It's going to land on her hand and she's.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Going to say animated bird.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
She's so cute. Oh that was fun.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I love you, love you,
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 4 (00:20):
Railval No, no, sibling, You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
What are you drinking the yummiest protein shake?
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Did you make it or did one of your people?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
You're such an ass. No, I got it from creation.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Oh you did. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
I just put it in the freezer and then I
redo it so it's really cold and like smoothie.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Eh.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
Here's I'm having breakfast issue because I get lazy, Like
I ate an enchilada chicken enchilada for breakfast. But when
you really think about breakfast, because I was going over
this in my head, if I put an egg on it,
it would be breakfast. You know what I'm saying. It's
still it's still protein, it's still cheese, it's still put
(01:19):
an egg on corn tortilla.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah, just take it, take a taco, put an egg
on itm in here with well, not really enchilada more like.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, but if I put an egg on the enchilada,
it would still be breakfast so if I ordered the
breakfast enchilada with no egg, it would still be breakfast.
That's true.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
By the way, you're speaking like my family, Like in
the Japanese culture, breakfast is like miso soup and rice
and Danny and I were even talking about how we
should get more into like Japanese breakfast because it's actually
so wholesome.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, you've got something pickled. It's really good for your gut.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Usually mes soup in the morning is like yummy.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Do you eat fish in the morning?
Speaker 1 (02:04):
Sometimes, well, what you would eat smoked trout, Well you
eat smoked salmon.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, it's got to have like a breakfast quality.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Well, that's kind of like the Japanese.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
I wouldn't mind some like salmon sushi in the morning, Like.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
Yeah, a little bit, like a little like a little mea.
So it's like it's actually really nice. The Japanese breakfast
is very very good.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
So it's not every you know.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
It's only like American look sausage, potatoes, eggs, yum. I
just got a new kitchen. I just redid my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I know, I saw it.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
It's insane, Alie. But the best part is is the
new ovens do things that are like so eating, make
everything so easy. I have a speed cook of it
now that can cook like hash brown potatoes in like
nine minutes.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
Wow, it just gets up to like nine hundred degrees
or something.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Oh yeah, it just goes a convection of it, so
it just goes really hot, like real fast cooks it.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Then you can crisp them in there for like a minute,
and like for the kids, I can make them like
little like diced potatoes and onions in the morning in
like nine minutes. It's amazing. Yeah, you got to get
one of them.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
It's really cool. They're probably like six billion dollars. No,
they're not.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
They're really affordable.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Because I do need a new oven. I need a
new kitchen. I've been trying to hustle up some sort
of HGTV show, like calling every host like, hey, you
want to do me for like a special. I'm just
getting nose.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
I want to start a YouTube channel for all of
my design things because I'm always doing it. I think
I'm going to do it, and and we can do
your kitchen get it like sponsored.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 3 (03:58):
We will. You'll have to pay for some of it
and then babies. We'll get a partner. You listen, I'm
excited to talk to these youngs.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah. We don't want to leave them waiting. We don't
to leave them waiting.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Today I have to say their mom. I feel like
was like your first.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Real oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah, well it was because
of first of all, Uptown Girl, the video, and then
you've got you know, vacation in the Red Ferrari and
at the pool, which is unforgettable. I come in for everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:31):
Yeah, in the eighties, that was like one of the
great moments of all time.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Yes, yeah, Kristy Brinkley was it. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
I mean it's like she's still it. She's so hot.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Oh, she's so hot.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's insane. Her energy, Yeah, everything I look at her.
Oh my stylist used to style her sometimes when she
was in New York and said she was just like
the greatest, most inspiring woman because she's just so filled
energy and happy.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
And she's so very joyful. I know. Well, let's see
if it rubbed off on any of these kids. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:08):
Yeah, so we got Alexa Rayjel and Jack Brinkley cook
yep JBC is what I like.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
To call him.
Speaker 3 (05:17):
Do you want to let him in, Allie.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yeah, yeah, let him in.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
Hi.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Going on, guys, Hey, guys, where are you right now?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
Are you in me? Are you east coast?
Speaker 5 (05:33):
We're east coast? Yeah, actually at our family house. So
oh nice in sag Harbor.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Oh, I love it. I'm jealous. Is it pretty or
is it starting to get fall and cool?
Speaker 5 (05:46):
It's so perfect. It's like early, like seventy three, like
just September.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
I love it. My son, my son, I will I'll come.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
My son just took a picture of himself like a
week ago and was like, because he's in New York,
he's at NYU and he just goes my first last
day of school because he's graduating, which is insane.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
I can't even God. And he facedtime me the other
day and I was like, oh, it looks like so
beautiful in New York. I was jealous.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
I just want to go wait wait, sag Harbor. Is
that the Hamptons.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Yeah, it's like the it's like upper it's on.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
The up, but it's considered the Hamptons.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Really heaven, it's the most beautiful. I mean, I'm a
little biased.
Speaker 6 (06:32):
We grew up bias, we grew up here.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
But it's the most beautiful town in the Hampton's because
you got the harbor front.
Speaker 3 (06:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
I got to go experience at Hampton's again. I've done
it one time when I was like nineteen twenty or
twenty one years old. Yeah, and I ended up on
like seven thousand years of ecstasy in a pool all
day and it was. It was the most disastrous weekend
in terms of my health.
Speaker 1 (06:56):
I'll never forget. He came back from the Hampton's and
had eaten his higher mouth off.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah, it was very well what happened.
Speaker 7 (07:03):
Yeah, you're a little scarred to come back.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah, Yeah, that was it. I was like, I'm never
coming back to this place again. I just need to.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
Come here, Like this is months to be here. It's
a little trafficking in the summer, but this is falling.
Speaker 2 (07:18):
I gotta give it. I got a chance.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
I like the Hamptons when it's off season.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
The winter is absolutely the best set here.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
That's what my friends say. Who has like who live
in the Hamptons. I actually have a friend who was
in the city and then moved her family to the
Hamptons and put the kids in school there, and she said,
it's the best thing I've ever done.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
She just loves it.
Speaker 5 (07:42):
Grow up in a more grounded as someone that's sort
of been in school at Nightingale, Bamford and then PCs
in the City Professional Children's School. I've had both the
Hampton's country and city experience, and I can just tell
you that people are more grounded out here.
Speaker 6 (08:00):
It's very different.
Speaker 5 (08:02):
Then I went to BCS, I was like, what's this.
They're like doing coke in the bathrooms, like a very
different situation.
Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, so big time.
Speaker 5 (08:12):
We were pretty like kind of sheltered and just low key.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Did you did you guys grow up in the city.
Speaker 7 (08:19):
We grew up out here and Siger did. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And then basically one year I was at school in
the city night in Gale, Bamford, which is very posh,
very upper Cress, very you know, clicky, and I was
kind of terrified and my mom was like, Okay, she's
not doing well. This was in when I was in
fourth grade, so I guess I was ten. And then
we moved back here out here because it was I
(08:46):
don't know, it just wasn't working for me.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
And I think that's so nice. I love it.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
So you guys, are you guys? Are you guys? Are
half we have a half but do you consider does that?
Does that even does that vernacular even come up when
you're talking about each other or is like brother and sister.
Speaker 5 (09:01):
It's so funny hearing you say that, because I always
forget because he's just my like.
Speaker 7 (09:07):
Yeah, we don't even I don't ever consider it. We
never like I never would describe a lex as my
half sister to ever to us, She's just like we're.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
Just like when you just said it, I was like, oh, yeah,
I have to remember that we're but because it doesn't
feel that way. We're close.
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Yeah, that's how we are.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
What's the age gap?
Speaker 6 (09:25):
When is the age gap nine years?
Speaker 5 (09:28):
So that is a denial of age. I'm not a
fan of numbers.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
I know, I said I'm forever thirty four. I mean
mentally like it.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Just like all kinds of things are going to happen
and change, but like I'm always thirty four.
Speaker 6 (09:45):
Like you're young at heart, you're.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Young forty nine, and you know age. I never gave
a shit about age fifty. I think might not sting,
but at least make me think. But I have a
theory about age. I'm just gonna if you if I
told you now I'm seventy one. It's like, oh shit,
you look good, so you might as well go older
and then you look better.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
I mean, I hear, I think it's easier. I totally
get that perspective. But as a woman, there's a lot
of built in misogyny, like the minute you say your age,
Oh why aren't you married yet?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Wow?
Speaker 6 (10:22):
Had kids yet?
Speaker 5 (10:24):
You know? So for me, I think it's I don't know, o, Kate,
if you oh yeah, I love to just like let
people guess and just keeping Jack and I are ten
years apart.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Now wait, now you have a third though, right? And
is he middle or is he younger?
Speaker 5 (10:41):
Sailor?
Speaker 7 (10:41):
Our little sister's she's three years younger than me. So
I am thirty. I just turned thirty two two months ago.
So I went through that little bit of shell shock
that I guess Oliver you're going to go through. And
my younger sister's twenty seven, and alexis thirty nine.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
He told it, Oh you told on me.
Speaker 5 (11:04):
Wait how old are you guys?
Speaker 6 (11:05):
Sorry?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Forty sixty nine?
Speaker 6 (11:09):
You're forty six. See, it doesn't it doesn't register.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
Like if you take care of yourself and you are warm,
like the beauty from I don't know, resonates from within
to without, and you I just it's more of a glow.
It's like who cares about the number?
Speaker 1 (11:26):
I also think women like I went to I remember
going to a couple of years back, my twenty year
high school reunion and the girls looked great and the
guys looked awful.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
It was like, what is happening?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Like the girls all look great.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
They've got a little boattogs, the little thing like they're
working out.
Speaker 3 (11:46):
They look so good. The guys, I was like.
Speaker 1 (11:48):
Wow, wow, I feel like girls take care of her.
And we just like we you know, like we are
just a little bit more ritual. We have our rituals
and we like to make ourselves.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
I mean, hold on, yeah, absolutely, this one relies on
his good genes. Yeah, I have to, Like, I have
to have my rituals or I look like shit.
Speaker 2 (12:13):
It's just like, I don't know, but men age better,
according to you guys, right, we age better?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No better is the wrong word. Differently motter with age,
which is yeah, it's annoying.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
Well, it's like the structure, it's like your face shirts.
Something that happens some some guys. Some guys they get
older and they're like, you know, the way that their
face changes is.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Very different than the way a woman's.
Speaker 5 (12:40):
Face has gotten his he's like, what would you say,
salt and pepper, distinguished, distinguished gray as they call it,
And he looks like he's sexier to me.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:53):
Just also he's matured a lot and work on himself.
So it's it's both right, it's not just looks, but like, oh,
something about that salt and pepper.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Mine is getting that too, like in his beard and
like in the badm Like, oh it is, it's nice.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
It's a thing.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Yeah, it shows wisdom. But I also think women with
silver hair, like the ones that i've like that crazy.
I just think it's so beautiful when their hair is like.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
You know, some women if they're into it, and you
can tell that they're comfortable with it, like you can
feel the energy they pull it off. Beautiful. Andy McDowell looks,
she looks unbelievable. Look at her and think, I don't
know if I'm going to be one of those girls,
because I you know, you don't like, I'll probably be
dying my hair if I'm being like honest with you. Yeah,
(13:42):
And let's not have this cycle of shame for women.
If they want to facelift, great, If they don't want
to get a facelift, I know.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
Let it go.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
Oh, by the way, you know how many dudes are
getting facelifts. Yeah, like big famous star.
Speaker 5 (13:57):
You know what I think. I don't think there's anything
wrong with one to look like the best version of you.
What I find unfortunate is when a girl, and I
know that this happens in our current superficial looks obsessed society,
where a young girl will take a picture of a
celebrity and bring it to her surgeon and say, make
(14:17):
me look just like this girl. Yeah, to me, that's
an unfortunate preprieve product of it. Not to sound cliche,
but you got to love yourself. And if you see
one little tweak and you want to you know, tweak,
it good for you. But to want to change everything
(14:37):
to the point that you're not.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
Even you anymore, I know that's sad.
Speaker 1 (14:43):
That's always like one of those things you just hope that,
you know, it's one thing to be like, Oh, I
remember I have my ears stick out right, and I
really like when I was little I wanted to or
when I started to get older, I was like, God,
I just want to get them back because they always
stick out and I can't put my hair up.
Speaker 2 (14:58):
And I also called her Dumbo.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
He also traumatized me, right.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
I always said to Kate and said, okay, okay, look
there's a breeze. There's a breeze picking up. Better you better,
you better latch down, You're gonna fly away.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I love it.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
I mean I have to say, like Sailors more the
one that teases me. I'm very lucky with Jack because
he's just always like so complimentary, so supportive, but you
big cist, like he really just respects my tenure.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
And how was that growing up?
Speaker 5 (15:33):
Big grow because he's so much my little big.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
Because the nine years is a pretty good difference, Like
how did that work? How did you guys get close?
You know, what was it like growing up with someone
who was like your little man? Essentially?
Speaker 5 (15:46):
Yeah, you know, we got close later in life, I
think because it's he was more with Sailor when you
guys were like really little, because that's a huge age difference.
And I was an angsty teen, so I was sort.
Speaker 6 (16:00):
Of very much introverted.
Speaker 5 (16:03):
And then just I would say, the last what fifteen
years well so in adult in our adulthood.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
When when I was ten years old, she was nineteen
years old and already moved out of the house. And so, yeah,
going back to being which difference hits then, yeah, and
going back to being in the Hampton's was What was
especially cool was when I got to fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
years old and the Hampton's weekends weren't cutting it anymore.
I used to go and stay with Alexa in the
city anymore. And my mom was very strict and she,
(16:35):
you know, she gave me a strict twelve am curfew
when all my other friends had like a one am curfew,
a two am curfew. And Alexa was amazing because I
would stay with her. And I think that she sometimes
used a little bit of discretion where when I would,
you know, come home thirty minutes late, she wouldn't get
me in trouble. But she was strict enough with a
few times when it was like three in the morning
(16:57):
and three thirty in the morning the next day. Oh,
I was probably.
Speaker 2 (17:01):
Added out your little brother.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Well, you know, I'm I'm a real homekeeper, so with
my apartment, I'm a little bit of a OCD like
neat freak. So if things aren't just the way I
want them, there's a little bit of a problem.
Speaker 7 (17:16):
She's a hyper neat freak. She everything she does is meticulous.
Speaker 6 (17:22):
So yeah, see the flowers in the bat.
Speaker 5 (17:24):
I like to keep things.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
What's you're signed?
Speaker 5 (17:27):
Eat things pretty? Does you get like I get stressed
if there's clutter around?
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Yeah. I don't like clutter, hate it. I'm a Capricorn, okay, and.
Speaker 7 (17:36):
You I'm a Gemini.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
No idea.
Speaker 1 (17:52):
So yeah, because I guess if you've a nine year
difference and you're like, you know, seventeen coming into the city,
and I mean you're well into your life, where were
you when did you get married?
Speaker 5 (18:05):
I actually I haven't gotten married yet. I'm still engaged.
Speaker 6 (18:09):
Oh my god, I think maybe you're I don't know,
I'm the same, You're.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
The same, like I like, I don't know. I like
keeping it fresh. Yeah, we've actually been we've been together
for twelve years.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
That's right, it's been a long time.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:23):
And I know you with Danny, right. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (18:29):
I don't subscribe to the labels anyways. I do want
to get married to him, and he is the love
of my life, you know, And we just haven't gotten
around to it, but you know, when we do, I
think next year we want to plan like the perfect wedding.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
And I was engaged for almost three years, so you
were I got well because that was the idea. The
idea was like, there is no rush, let's enjoy being
in love and having fun with the engagement. What is it?
What is marriage anyway? Honestly, and we're still basically married.
Speaker 5 (19:01):
I totally agree. And the way I see it is
like kind of me and Ryan have been together longer
than a lot of marriages have lasted twelve years, so
it's it's it's all relative, you know, and time flies by.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
So how many? How many? How do you do you
like to be? Like, how do you say your name?
Do you just say Alexa? You just say Alexa?
Speaker 5 (19:23):
Ray you know I used to do Alexa or alex,
but since that damn freaking Alexa robot Amazon Echo thing.
Speaker 3 (19:32):
Oh no, oh yeah, everybody's.
Speaker 5 (19:34):
Bordering Alexa around Alexa. Do this, Alexa, do that?
Speaker 3 (19:39):
Oh my god.
Speaker 5 (19:39):
It actually causes some issues, Like I'll be on the
phone with someone and they'll say hey, Alexa, and they'll think,
we'll go what would you.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Like to do?
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Like because of that, I do, Alexa.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
Ray, Okay, that's so funny.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Yeah, yes, but you have how many siblings do you
have all together?
Speaker 6 (19:59):
We have it's just me, Jack and Sailor Joseph.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Okay, so it's just the three of you.
Speaker 5 (20:04):
Hold a sailor now twenty seven.
Speaker 7 (20:06):
Sailor's twenty seven. And then Alexa has two additional half sisters.
Speaker 5 (20:11):
Right, yeah, on my on my father's end.
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Right, So mom has three and three dads.
Speaker 7 (20:18):
Correct, yeah, yes, like me.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
That's okay.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
You know, we're a modern family.
Speaker 3 (20:24):
It works, it seems to work.
Speaker 7 (20:28):
Curious where are you guys? I love the background of
where you are.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
It's so homeye oh, I'm in LA, I'm in my office.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
I'm in my son's room, okay, and Ollie's in is
that what? I'm in Bodie's room.
Speaker 3 (20:42):
That's where body lives.
Speaker 5 (20:43):
Now, wait, the difference between a man's room and a
woman's room.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Yeah, I'm in Bodie's room. It's just exact exactly.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
So, so so you're so let's start Alexa. Let's start
with you. So you she you grew up. You were
eight years old when your parents divorced. Dad's Billy Joel,
Mom's Christie Ray, we got to get into the parents because,
like I was saying to Oliver before you guys got
on that that was clearly Oliver's like first like one
(21:15):
of his big crushes was your mom.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
Oh of course, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
Like the hottest, like the Ferrari you know, vacation situation
was like your mom was just everything.
Speaker 5 (21:29):
Yeah, iconic, the ultimate.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
But you came out of like the like they were
just such a couple, you know, and when when they
broke up, would do you like, do you remember it?
Speaker 3 (21:45):
Of course?
Speaker 5 (21:45):
Yeah, I was nine. I was nine years old when
they divorced, and yeah, I mean, you know, they were
my world and we were the three Musketeers. So we
were always together, singing would you know, bring me out
on the road. And we were very just sort of
like a musical family, always singing together, always putting on
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a show. And so yeah, it was it was a
shock to me. But you know, you should you should
probably watch my father's documentary and so because it really
delves into all of that and the pressures that my
father was going through at the time he had to
go back on the road when he just wanted to
stay home with me and Mom because his manager at
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the time ripped him off and stole hundreds of thousands
of dollars, and so he had to get back on
the road and make that up. And that was a
part of you know, that was a part of maybe
it was more. It might have been millions actually no recounting,
so that that was a big strain. I sometimes wonder,
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you know, there's a there's a there's a pros and
cons to everything, because I sometimes wonder, well, if the
man hadn't come into the picture and he didn't have
to get back on the road, maybe they would have
stayed together. But then I wouldn't have my wonderful you know.
I mean, you know, life is funny. But I do
believe that they were soulmates. And it was a dream
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childhood I grew We're talking about how great sag Harbor is,
but I grew up in a further lane, which is,
I don't know, arguably the most beautiful area in East Hampton,
and we lived in a beautiful sort of like Tuscan style.
It was a dream. It was like a story book.
Everything you could imagine out of a storybook childhood I
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was very blessed to have. And you know, I look
back at it, and it almost seems like this beautiful
dream because it was. It was just you'll see in
the documentary just it was a really magical time.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
And so you basically like that one year difference nine
year difference is I mean you were really raised an
only child.
Speaker 5 (24:05):
For a very long time.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah, And so when when your bro came along, how
did that feel?
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I was happy as could be. I mean Jack was
the most energetic, happy, just always smiling. I was always
singing to him. My mom she films everything. You'll see
a lot of the footage in the documentary. Always got
to before we had phones. She had one of those
old school video cameras on her shoulder, and so you know,
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she captured all the footage. I used to sing to him,
We used to play. He was very active, wanted to
be outdoors. I've always been more of an indoor gal.
So you know, I don't know. I think we kind
of compliment each other in our differences. But we didn't
get close till I till we were both young adults, because,
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like I said, at that point, there is such a.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
Huge age gap that.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
It just gave us an opportunity to relate to each other.
More by the time he was in his I don't know,
late teens, early twenties.
Speaker 7 (25:10):
We're all very different, like our little sister, Sailor is
very different from Alexa, and we're opposites like you and.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
Author explain that, like, how are you guys different?
Speaker 7 (25:22):
Well, so I would say that sale Alexa tends to
lean to again, to be a little bit more of
a homebody. She's very comfortable in her environment and and
my sister's Sailor is probably the antithesis. She seems to
always be out.
Speaker 5 (25:37):
And introvert versus extrovert. Yeah, I'm an introvert. She's an extrovert.
I like to be at home, playing the piano.
Speaker 6 (25:44):
Honestly and eating.
Speaker 7 (25:46):
The way you could be opposite. They kind of, for
the most part, are She's new.
Speaker 5 (25:53):
Real tough gal. She'll speak her mind. She's really outspoken.
She's and everyone always me is more the innocent one
for some reason. It's just you know how it is
like when you're sailings, a lot of times your opposites,
your opposite characteristics can be magnified, which is a good thing.
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I think.
Speaker 7 (26:15):
Yeah, Sailor is an innocent Sailor.
Speaker 5 (26:17):
Is No, I don't mean it in a bad way.
I mean like she's like she's like a badass, like
she's she'll speak her mind, she'll you know, she's just a.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
Very outgoing personality.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Outgoing And what about you, Jack, how do you fit
into this dynamic?
Speaker 7 (26:36):
I'd like to think I'm a little bit of a
hybrid between the two. I'm you know, I like to
go out and I'm social and I but social but yeah, yeah,
but I'm definitely less rigid than than our little sister Sailor, who,
to Alexis point, can be she she's very opinionated and
and makes her opinions very clear and in a great way.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Jack, you're very open minded, like you can always he
can see both sides of everything. You're very diplomatic.
Speaker 3 (27:04):
How did mom manage the family? Like the unit? So
you've got three dads?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
I know Alexi you're a little bit older, but with
you and Sailor, especially Jack, Like, how did she manage
the unit? And did it really feel like you guys
were one unit or was there a lot of spreading
out based on where the dads were or.
Speaker 7 (27:28):
I mean my experience is that we always felt like
one unit. I think that probably when Yeah, my mom
got her last divorce. I think it brought us all
closer together, naturally, you really did. And that was the
moment where we like really unified, and.
Speaker 5 (27:49):
We unified around my mother too, because she was going
through it, and so it gave us a real sense
of solidarity. And you know, I mean, there's nothing like
when you can relate to going through a divorce. We
both experienced that, and then it did. It kind of
bonded us closer together, and now we all couldn't be closer.
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I mean, you know, Jack doesn't go a day without
speaking to my mom. I don't go a day without speaking.
And she's the best mom in the sense that she worries.
She wants to make sure everybody's okay. If she doesn't hear,
you know, from us for too long, She's like, I
just want to make sure you're okay, you know. So
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we're tight knit, just like you guys, like you can
see it and you're a little I follow Kate on
Instagram and I'm such a fan by the way. I
just love her thing and it's you can feel that
genuine closeness.
Speaker 3 (28:43):
It's so great. I can I can see that with
Christy on you know, with you guys.
Speaker 7 (28:50):
She's Oh yeah, she's a little bit of a warrior,
and in a good way. I drove out from the
city to the Hamptons last night. It's a two hour drive,
and probably every ten to twelve minutes my phone would
ring and it was my mom, you know, checking in
making sure.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
That you hadn't crashed.
Speaker 7 (29:08):
Yeah, she called me ten minutes ago. I'm ten minutes
further up the road.
Speaker 2 (29:11):
We're good, exactly. That is funny.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Oh, it sounds like me.
Speaker 2 (29:14):
It sounds like Kate. And I was about to say
that just wants.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
To make sure everybody's okay. She's such a mama bear.
She's also super conscious of the environment, health. She's always
trying to make us aware of Okay, this is good
for you, this is not good for you. She's just
she's that real nurturing mama bear type. And you know,
I'd rather it's the best.
Speaker 2 (29:48):
It's interesting how Jack you were saying that, you know,
sort of the last divorce is which brought you guys together.
You guys are kind of saying that or what solidified
you know, the unit essentially is that is that? How
do you what why do you think that is? Is
it just sort of rallying around each other and the
support that it takes to sort of get through whatever
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it is you have to get through.
Speaker 7 (30:12):
I think it was a very I think the last divorce,
particularly too for my mother was was a was a
bad one, and so by you know, sort of directly
because of that, we, like Alexis said, sort of rallied
around her and wanted to show our support. And inevitably
that brought our my siblings and myself closer together as
a result of doing that. But I don't mean to
(30:34):
say that and that there wasn't It wasn't like pre
divorce we were all separated. I mean my even before
Alexi moved out of the house, and again she moved
out of the house when I was ten years old,
because she is nine years older than me. I still
up until that point, I have a tremendous amount of
you know, incredible memories still when she was still you know,
going to the same high school here in East Hampton
that I went to. But I think it was I
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think it was really the the idea of rallying around
our mom that it did.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Yeah, sometimes it takes like these big moments to sort
of that kind of kick something into a different dynamic.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
You know what I mean. Comply your mom needed you, she.
Speaker 5 (31:15):
Needed us, and we were there. And also, you know,
Jack is a big music lover, and so he's always
he's like my biggest supporter. Like any song that comes out,
he's like, I downloaded it, I'm playing it. He'll blast
it in the house the other day, was blasting some
tracks of mine.
Speaker 1 (31:31):
I know you have a single out River Sideway. I
just watched the video. I was very sexy.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I know that that's your guy, right, that's your dude
in the in the in the video.
Speaker 5 (31:43):
That's my fiance Ryan.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
Yes. Yeah, because I was watching it too, and there
was a moment in the backseat of a car where
you sort of straddle him and then you start kissing,
and I'm like, that feels like someone she knows. I
literally was thinking that, you know. I was like, that
doesn't seem like an actor.
Speaker 5 (32:00):
Can I just say how impressed I am with both
of you as actors, because to me, the idea they said, well,
who do you want to get for this video? I said,
my guy, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:11):
Make out with a stranger.
Speaker 5 (32:13):
I just feel like, Wow, I'm so impressed that you
can just break that ice, because Ryan and I've had
twelve twelve years to break that ice. And so what
was really comfortable on camera?
Speaker 1 (32:24):
And you know, it was I had a moment like
this at work the other day where I was making
out with somebody and I did, I did at this
moment where everybody is just filming and you know, and
we're so used to it, you.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
Know, and uh, nothing to you, it's like nothing.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
And then I I said to my friend who who
is playing the guy, and I was like, it's so
crazy that we are just like making out and then
we're like anyway, so yeah, oh my god, yesterday my
kids like they start to were kids and your partners
and but you're just it's like the it's the crazy
as weird as life we live.
Speaker 6 (33:02):
I mean, like that's.
Speaker 5 (33:03):
Why I say, I think it's amazing. It's I don't know,
because I was just even surprised with all the cameras
that I was so comfortable doing a love scene with
him in the truck. But then you know, once I
think it's just about I don't know, you would know
better than me as a as an amazing actress, but
it's just about locking in because we were just looking
(33:24):
at each other like I sort of forgot that the
cameras or anyone was looking to lose that self consciousness.
Self consis is the worst, and I'm a very hyper
aware person.
Speaker 6 (33:35):
But you got to get rid of all that and.
Speaker 5 (33:37):
Just be in the moment. And that's kind of what
Riverside Way is about. I wanted to channel my bad girl.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
I know, I loved it.
Speaker 1 (33:45):
I loved it. I was like, oh, Collex, right, but wait,
so so that was the moment?
Speaker 2 (33:50):
Wait, Jack, hold on, Jack. When you watch your sister
in the video like making that, are you cool? I
mean you're like, okay, No.
Speaker 7 (33:57):
I was cool with it. Honestly, I was most impressed
with her. Beyonce Ryan, who is, obviously, she mentioned, not
a trained actor and I don't think has a lot
of experience in that fielding.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
And he looks so handsome and he's so he looks
so cool.
Speaker 7 (34:10):
He looks so good. I mean, beyond being obviously impressed
with her, that was that was probably what came to
mind first.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
Yeah, well that's good, but there's always got to be
something I got ship. There's my sister like like tongue down,
even if it's your you know, it's like when when
Kate posts Instagram where her ass is like shaking around everywhere,
I'm like, all right, we're good.
Speaker 5 (34:28):
You know you know what I think I've seen it
comment or too from you like yeah.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, I think I like just following me then like
mute me.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
No, there was one recently that I didn't comment on.
Speaker 3 (34:39):
I think I saw Summer.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
Don't out buns out or something.
Speaker 3 (34:44):
Yeah, what's.
Speaker 5 (34:46):
Closely?
Speaker 1 (34:47):
Yes, I do all of her loves putting like, oh
so you're you can put your ass out on Instagram,
but I do, and you.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Have you know what's fucked up? I put my ass
on Instagram, like I get it gets taken off. Yeah,
you and every other influencer who's on only Fans puts
their ass and everything else on Instagram. They're cool, they're cool.
Speaker 3 (35:07):
Youriminated at all?
Speaker 7 (35:10):
How often are you putting your ass on Instagram?
Speaker 2 (35:13):
Like you know every third fourth post?
Speaker 5 (35:15):
Is it's relative? Because here I am thinking I wrote
like this edgy song and oh you know this is
a real sexual vibe, but it's it's it's really not
when you compare, like every everybody's doing whatever they want,
Like Sabrina Carpenter is you know a sex she wants
(35:36):
to be and there's really no rules, And I don't
think you're really challenging yourself as an artist if you
stay in one box or one lane and you know
one the ballad girl, the piano girl, the good girl.
I just wanted to step outside of that.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
Yeah does it? Doesn't it feel good?
Speaker 6 (35:53):
It feels great?
Speaker 7 (35:54):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (35:55):
Creating.
Speaker 3 (35:56):
You know, art is for taking rests. Yeah, you got
to be able to take risks.
Speaker 1 (36:01):
And by the way, with that comes the chance of failure,
and it's important to do that. Like to put yourself
out there's hard, but like if you're not taking the risks,
you're never going to know how far you can go.
Speaker 5 (36:15):
You got to just do it and then let go
of whatever people think about it, because I know, for me,
like even doing the video, I'm not looking at the
comments on YouTube or anything. I know, because as a
sensitive gal, i'd probably start, I don't know, crying.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
It sucks.
Speaker 1 (36:32):
There's a funny sort of misunderstanding from the outside in
when you grow up with very famous parents, how critical
people are on you when you're young. When you're it's like,
so you're under this microscope before you've even chosen to
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be an artist, or to be kind of like want
to be out in the world as an actor, or
you know, there are certain certain kids that are that
are far more kind of criticized than others Like I.
I growing up, I always felt whether it was in school,
whether it was you know, it's a theater class and
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music class and all the things that I did. The
second they found out or anyone found out what my
who my family was, or immediately I felt so much
extra criticis there was there was sort of a different
kind of criticism that I'd receive.
Speaker 5 (37:32):
Oh yeah, because there's also that underhanded feeling of oh
she had it handed to her, she grew up with privilege.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Yeah, right, no matter how hard you work or how
in love you are with the arts.
Speaker 2 (37:46):
I honestly think that's the fucked up thing about this
nepo baby, you know, sort of wave it is mainly
directed at the arts, you know, actors, writers, musicians, which
is bullshit because nepotism exists across all businesses, across all occupations.
Speaker 1 (38:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:05):
In fact, I think as an artist, you know, you
have to prove yourself. Yes, it's like hard, yeah, it's
part can get in the door, but you still have
to be good, you still have to fucking deliver.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah, Alie Jeanie Buzz said to me, which I realized
it was really interesting. She said, eighty something percent of
families get into the business.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
They're the same business.
Speaker 5 (38:30):
It's inevitable. And why not. I mean, you grew up
with it. I grew up hearing music my whole life,
with my father writing these incredible songs and playing Gershwin
and playing sound in music, and like I had this
really classically amazing, diverse musical repertoire that I was raised with.
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It's just it becomes a part of you, you know,
because you know theaters in your blood too, Kate, and
I mean, you develop a love for it. I think
it's a beautiful way to kind of carry on the
family legacy, irregardless of you know, I'll never be my father,
and we're different in many ways, and I may never
achieve that same level of mainstream success or when you know,
(39:13):
everybody has their own version of success these days. But
it's I think it's a beautiful thing to carry on
a family legacy and just do you. And like I said,
people are going to have things to say, you know,
it's always a mixed bag now online. Right, I always
feel like there's no middle ground, like they either love
you to death or they freaking hate you and want
(39:36):
to see you you know, just go down in flames. Right,
But but you got to just stay true to you
and do My father he says, you do what you love,
and you love what you do and damn the rest.
Speaker 2 (39:47):
And you know, would you does your does your dad
listen to your music and does he give you a
critique and advice on stuff that you do? Or is
he kind of let your hey girl, go do your things,
go do your shit.
Speaker 7 (40:00):
You know.
Speaker 5 (40:01):
He's so supportive, but not in a like showbiz father way.
He's just like, do you like like Riverside way doesn't
sound like anything that he would have written, very much
a departure from his style, so he was sort of
taken aback and he's like, oh, you know, good for
you for not like staying in that same kind of
(40:22):
comfortable niche that perhaps would be expected of me as
his daughter. Because I like to show I know, you know,
Kate's very diverse with her choices too. You don't want
to just do comedy right or just do so I
like to show, Okay, I can do ballad. I can
do a fiery, little kind of banger, And I think
it's just about mixing it up and doing what you want.
(40:47):
I don't really follow a playbook. I know my father
doesn't either. He's a real non conformist. He's done the
doop stuff and the tinpan alley stuff, and then he's
done even stuff that sounds more, and then he's done
more classical, and then he's done more you know, real
rock and roll songs. So I think it's just about
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playing and having fun.
Speaker 3 (41:09):
Do you write all your own music? I do? And
do you work with anybody when you're writing?
Speaker 5 (41:16):
I work alone. Jack's heard me. I just I just
play at the piano.
Speaker 1 (41:19):
Really, so you should you write all that just by yours,
just by yourself?
Speaker 5 (41:24):
Riversideway, I was, I don't know if you're a bathtub
gal Kate, but I got it. I can't sleep unless
I take a hot bath at night. One night and
just it was a late night at three am, I
was just thinking about, like, oh, what if I were
like playing this alter ego character. And I was thinking
of a few wild, rare, uncharacteristic, wild nights I had
(41:44):
out and I just heard folks Sigurs, Dream Go Day,
met a bubble on the roop and it just kind
of came out.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
That's so fun.
Speaker 5 (41:54):
It's okay.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
I love writing.
Speaker 1 (41:56):
I've been writing music my whole life, and then only
in the last couple of years have I been doing
real writing sessions with different writers, and I love writing
with people.
Speaker 3 (42:06):
I have so much fun, Like.
Speaker 1 (42:08):
Yeah, especially just it's great connecting with different people and
like yeah, understanding how they work and how they think, and.
Speaker 3 (42:18):
Certain people it's kind of hard to.
Speaker 1 (42:20):
Like get in there with each other, and then some
people you just start to flow and it's so amazing.
Speaker 5 (42:26):
But see you seem as like more of a total
extrovert to me, which is amazing. I wish I could
be more extroverted. My father, I'm like my father. My
Dad's a true blue introvert. He sits there and he
gets into his own world. He writes alone, he goes
through every feeling he's ever had. And I think I
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kind of caught that, you know, writing alone, bug if
you will, from him, because it's so it's kind of
it's sort of thrilling to just go into your own
lens and your own world and just go with it.
Speaker 2 (43:02):
It's like your own dream world, you know, and Jack,
you just you didn't want to get into the business
in any way. I'm assuming what's.
Speaker 7 (43:10):
Funny is I actually went to acting.
Speaker 6 (43:12):
School, so he's a great actor.
Speaker 7 (43:14):
I did go to acting school. I I I pursued
improv more than anything else. But quickly coming after, quickly
after I got out of acting school, my mom he said,
you need to get a job, and you know, I'm
going to give you a month to three months to
figure it out. And it was within that period that
I ended up launching the company that I still have
(43:36):
to this day. And so it.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
Wasn't Yeah, by the way, how is Rove doing.
Speaker 2 (43:41):
I've heard, I've good would explain what it is.
Speaker 7 (43:44):
Yeah, So basically one day having OLIVERR. Not really been
to the Hampton's, I'm not sure if you'd be super familiar,
but there's a bus service that everybody I know Hampton's
and yeah, it's called the Hampton Jitney. Yeah, it's active,
but it's the experiences. You know, probably it is not
the nicest experience in the world, and I thought that
(44:06):
there would be room to sort of elevate the experience,
given that it is the Hamptons and you know, it
is a luxury market. And so we launched a direct
service between Manhattan, Brooklyn and singular towns and the Hamptons
on Mercedes Benz sprinter vans to offer an upgraded program.
And that was the year before COVID, and so the
(44:27):
following year COVID strikes. People don't want to travel together.
But luckily the county that the Hamptons are in, Suffolk County,
was looking for a local transportation company to help fight
traffic in the Hamptons and drunk driving, and they had
a grant and a bid, and so we actually transitioned
the program from a ride share service between the city
(44:49):
and New York to an internalized ride share service where
we actually provide free rides within the Hamptons that are
all powered by advertisers. So you get into a vehicle
where the vehicle is wrapped on the exterior by an advertiser,
the interior has iPads that take consumer data information and
we're able to provide free rides where otherwise an uber
in the Hamptons is fifty dollars to go five minutes
(45:11):
down the road. No, that's what we'd become now.
Speaker 5 (45:15):
So savvy behind me, savvy this one.
Speaker 7 (45:19):
Different than what she does.
Speaker 5 (45:22):
I have really no business savvage.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Just so you're an entrepreneur aually, this is what you
want to do.
Speaker 7 (45:28):
I guess you could say that, Yeah, we.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
Usually do like our little ending question all you want
to ask them what that is?
Speaker 2 (45:36):
Yeah, every we do this with everybody. And it's kind
of a two part question about you guys. You guys
can answer if you could emulate something, take something from
your sibling that you wish you had yourself, what would
it be? And on the flip side of that, if
you could alleviate something from them that you know would
(45:58):
make their life experience a little but better, what would
that be?
Speaker 7 (46:02):
Well, that's a loaded.
Speaker 5 (46:03):
Question, okay, As something popped up in my mind just
now as Oliver was saying that I wish I had
Jack's flexibility. He's very flexible. He can he could be
in any situation and you know, just make it work.
He's a great traveler. He's he's not like so baked in.
(46:27):
I'm such a homebody and introvert and kind of I
love to live in my own fantasy world so much
that I think it's limiting for me, like in terms
of branching out he'll he can branch out and make
anybody anything a home, make anybody feel at home. He's
(46:47):
so good with hosting, He's always hosting. It's a true,
it's a true extrovert quality. So I wish I had
your flexibility.
Speaker 7 (46:57):
And if I was thinking about with a lux of
I think that Alexa is probably the most caring person
in the world. And I don't think that there's anybody
that's ever met Alexa and just doesn't love her. And
so I suppose, I suppose if I could take one
quality from her, it would be her caringness, because I've
seen over my life how how that has impression people,
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and and truly everybody just just loves Alexa.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
So that's great. And then what would you alleviate there less?
Speaker 6 (47:26):
Sometimes I care so much, I think to.
Speaker 7 (47:29):
I, guess what Alexa was saying is the the personality
trait that she would take from me? I guess if
I if I would alleviate one thing of Alexa, I
think that she I would give her some of my
flexibility and some of and and exactly I think maybe
sometimes Alexa, you you you you you can you really
(47:50):
consider what people think of think and you know, I
know She mentioned she doesn't like to look at the
comments and stuff like that, and I think, to a
certain extent my head, yeah, you know, I think that
I would take away a little bit of the the overthinking. Hm.
Speaker 5 (48:07):
Oh for sure, I wish I could.
Speaker 3 (48:11):
Please take it away.
Speaker 5 (48:14):
I think one thing we have in common. We both
get some anxiety. We both struggle with anxiety and this
anxiety inducing world. And I know what that's like, and
it can be hard to just shut your brain off.
I know that he has a little anxiety that he
goes through sometimes because he as he says, I'm so caring,
but you're always worried about everybody too. You want to
(48:35):
make sure mom's okay, You want to make sure everybody's okay.
Maybe I'd like to take some of your anxiety away.
I have a thing that I say when I get anxious,
where I say, just float, Like I say it in
my head. Oh I like that, just float, you know, yeah,
because it can be hard for people that are.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
Always either float or pop some lexipro you know. I mean, I.
Speaker 5 (49:04):
Try to work through it mentally. I know why people
go to substances because this world is so crazy right now,
everything's so overstimulating. But if you say in your head
just float, try it sometimes.
Speaker 7 (49:16):
Yeah, just flows amazing.
Speaker 3 (49:19):
You guys are the best. I'm coming to sag Harbor please.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
I know me too. I need another experience with the Hamptons.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
Yeah, seriously, we extra no no art studio.
Speaker 5 (49:30):
You could stay here, welcome anytime. And you know we
watched Almost Famous at least once a month around.
Speaker 6 (49:38):
Or anything.
Speaker 1 (49:41):
Yeah, it's our twenty fifth anniversary yesterday. Wow, it's crazy.
Speaker 5 (49:47):
Oh my god, I know relations it's timeless.
Speaker 3 (49:51):
Twenty five years.
Speaker 1 (49:53):
All right, beauty, you guys, thank you so much for
coming on.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
This is fun.
Speaker 3 (49:59):
Yeah, I will see you soon.
Speaker 2 (50:01):
Bye bye. Cool.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
They're so great.
Speaker 2 (50:05):
I know, it's so fun.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
They're so cute. That was so nice, Christie. And also I.
Speaker 1 (50:11):
Love hearing I want to go to the Hampton Harbor
is amazing. It's really beautiful. Yeah, but just like their
mom sounds awesome.
Speaker 3 (50:21):
And and Alexa Ray is so cute.
Speaker 2 (50:25):
She she is like really like so happy and positive
and it's like, oh.
Speaker 3 (50:31):
And it's like a Disney character.
Speaker 1 (50:33):
Yeah, it's like Cinderella, Like all is in a bird.
Speaker 3 (50:37):
It's going to land on her hand and she's.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Going to say animated bird.
Speaker 3 (50:43):
She's so cute. Oh that was fun.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
I love you, love you,
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