November 18, 2024 • 59 mins
Kate and Oliver connect with Emmy nominated actress Connie Britton!
From 'Friday Night Lights,' to 'Nashville,' to 'The White Lotus,' you can count on Connie for a brilliant performance every single time.
But who knew she had a twin sister?? She tells us how they're different and whether or not they share the twin ESP talent!
Plus, find out why Oliver says one day in particular on the 'Nashville' set was a real stinker!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are a sibling. Railvalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good. I love Ollie. I'm this is someone that
you know pretty well.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You've worked with her, Yeah, I worked with her on
a show called Nashville. There's a good chance she was
extremely attracted to me during this time. But she is
the reason I even did this show because I was
getting paid zero dollars. It was right when Rio is born.
(01:08):
I'll tell her this wh when she comes on. I
was so afraid to leave, went to Nashville crying my
eyes out, and turned out to be a great fun
experience with my girl, Connie Britton.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I think she is one of the greatest human beings
ever in our industry. She so loved I ran into
her at the airport in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
She's probably there right now. I have a feeling in Toronto, yeah,
because she just.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah at the Toronto Film Festival. We're literally literally went
through customs together.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh my, and we what is she doing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't know. We can talk to her about it,
but should we bring.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Let's bring her and I want to have a few questions.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Really do you?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, I have a few questions, A few questions for Connie.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Mm hmmm, what is going on?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And freaks?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hello, Hi guys.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Hi, are you still in Canada?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
No? So you're back.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I'm back. I'm back. I was there very briefly, very great.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I was just telling Oliver that we ran into each
other in the customs.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
I had to have a little bit of a conversation
with myself though, because I ran into you and you
looked so like we've just been on that long flight,
and you looked so put together and fabulous, and I
was literally like in my pjs with like terrible hair
and no makeup, and I was like, I gotta I
gotta do better.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh no, you looked beautiful. You always looked beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did you talk about me or no?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't think we did.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
We might have we She might have said, ow's all
are great?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was the first
thing I said.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, no, no, I know.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Yeah, Well, trying to get my work permit.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It should be it should be top of mine.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You have to get a work permit. You know, God, what.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Are you doing in Toronto?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm not doing it anymore. I did this great show.
I just did a tiny little guest thing, this great
show called Overcompensating. Have you guys heard of I hadn't,
but now I know who he is and I will
I'm forever changed. Have you heard of Benny Drama? Benny
Drama from the internets?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
He is this amazing young comedian and has all the
you know kind of His whole story is about how
he comes from Idaho and he like put on, like
he was. He pretended to everybody that he was straight
for a really long time, and so this show is
about him doing that and then finally coming out in college.
(04:03):
And it's so funny and so good. I think this
show is going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Redded he is Shredded Shredded.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's very handsome.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
He's so handsome, he's so talented and funny. Are you
watching our video?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We just watched it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Watching a video.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's not not even sound on it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You can laugh funny.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was Charlie XCX because she was in the show.
She's in the show oh fine. So we were like
and I, you know, he was just doing that dance
and of course I had no idea what I was doing.
What difference does it make?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
How fun her? How are you good, babe? I deliver cleanse.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm two weeks into intermittent fasting. I've lost eight pounds.
I feel good. I'm sexy. I'm sexier you know than
I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
You know that's objective.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, it's objective. Yes, it's subjective, one of the objectives.
It's it's objective. I just did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Ojective objective.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And uh, I'm good. I need a job, but I'm good.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I want us to do. What are we going to do?
We have to do something?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
You're well, I know, I just there's so much untapped
talent that is just flowing through this And.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Even when I worked with you, there's so much untapped No,
I know, even.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
In every scene we've done.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Do you I know it's in there somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Do you do you remember when we were Do you
remember when we were doing a scene and I farted?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Oh? I probably, I actually don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It was.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It was it was one of the great moments in
my career. It was like something all serious where I'm
the asshole, you know, record guy, And I'm at like
Edge Hill Records or some shit, and I'm not supposed
to be there, and Connie's giving this whole speech of
like how I shouldn't be there and to get out
or whatever she's saying, and it's all serious, and I'm
(06:24):
just looking at her.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'm supposed to deliver a line, and I just walk off.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
I remember the first my first time meeting you. You
had just gotten to set and you were in tears
because you just left your newborn baby. Yes who was
which one?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Which was Rio?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I mean I remember you're crying. Oh she was
ten days old. And I had to leave and I
was getting paid nothing for the first season. It was
just sort of show guest spot stuff. I just but honestly,
because you were in Nashville's like I need to mean,
it's Connie Britton. I have to go do this even
(07:09):
though I'm not getting paid. And I was devastated. I
was crying at the kitchen table when my car was
coming and I literally said I'm going to call my
manager and said, but this.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm a major. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm not going. Yeah, I said, I don't care if
ABC hates me. I don't care. I don't care. I'm
not I can't do this. And Aaron, my wife, was like,
get up, get in the fucking car.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It all work out.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But I was just devastated.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean I would have been the exact the whole,
like parenting and working things so hard. Yeah, it's so difficult.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's it's also like it's just my god, how's your baby,
by the way, crazy thirteen.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Thirteen like at that time, I mean that's how long
it's been, because at that time he was what three two.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I just feel like you're so lucky if you're able
to take your kids with.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You and you're working.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But the thing for our crazy life is like the
hours are just insane.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's like you just don't see your kids, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
And nothing shoots in Lani anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I know I'm about to leave my girl for the
first time for two months, and I mean I won't
leave her for that whole time, but but it's like
I'm like having major separation anxiety, you know, it's like
a big, big time.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I mean, I just know I have to say no
to things because I can't. I just I did this
thing in New York for six months in the winter
where I was basically commuting to New York, and it
just about killed me because also I can't stand being
away from him, Like I just can't stand it, and
(08:58):
especially now like he's getting into that, like you know,
it's like junior high. It's like oh and and then
so I would like literally land in New York, you know,
the last whatever midnight and of course have like a
five am pick up the next morning, and then the
second that I wrapped from set, like race to the
(09:21):
airport to get home. And I was doing it like
every week for like trex months and it's like it
wrecked me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and I guess to be wrecked. I guess what's happening?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Where are you going to be shooting?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's so me, I'll be and I'll be around New York.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, but you know, look, they get a little bit
older and you realize, like you do, you kind of
have to go back to it if you love it,
you know. So this is my first time really leaving
her for a longer period of time. Yeah, you know,
I will only go like ten days because I'm crazy
like that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Think you're Also, it hurts more for yourself than it
does your actual child.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know they're so happy, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Are more devastated than they are. That's I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Listen, you know I'm a single mom. So like when
I'm gone, he's with a nanny.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Hmm, I'm available.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
He's the best, by the way, when I was a
single mom.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
God, for all he wants is siblings. So he just
I'm going to just drop him at your house with
your kids.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Honorary Hudson when you're out of town.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh my god, there will be a great father.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
You are a great father, and you will be a
great father to Yobi.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Of childhood Connie Britain, what was your childhood like? Where
were you born?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I was born in Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And did you live Were you born and raised there?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
No? I only lived there. My dad was in both
my parents weren't school there, you know, they got they
like had babies so young, and so we were born there.
But then my dad got out of school and we
moved to Maryland. So when I was like one, we
(11:29):
moved to Rockville, Maryland. Is that near DC or yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Our mom's from Maryland.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Oh really, where she's from Tacoma Park, Silver Spring.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Right, that's really that's near where I was. That's near
where we were. Yeah, but we only lived there till
we were seven, and then we moved to Virginia, Lynchburg, Virginia,
and that's where I always think, like, that's where I
think of when I think about where I grew up,
because I loved it. My mom. I remember my mom
(12:02):
being like she was from Connecticut and she thought that
like the world was over because we were going to
like the sticks in Lynchburg, Virginia, which you know, it
was certainly small town Virginia, but like it was a
great place to grow up. I had. I had so
much fun as a child.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You guys move seven to till you left.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Well seven till yeah. And in fact, then my dad
because his work, like he he would switch he switched company,
like I think when we were in Maryland, he was
working for the guy. My dad was a nuclear physicist
and so he was working in nuclear energy for the government.
(12:48):
And then he moved to like a private company in Virginia.
But then actually when we when we graduated that my
parents moved to Ohio, Akron, Ohio. And then I thought
my life was over because I was I was going
to college, but I was so sad that we were leaving,
like my town that I loved. So yeah, but then
(13:12):
they ended up moving back there. Both of my parents
had passed away. But yeah, like that's my southern background.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You so you have like you've like you're you're a
country girl.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I mean kind of kind of. I'm a suburban girl.
It's it was probably more suburbs and country. But yeah,
but when I think back on it though comparatively, Yeah,
like we had a creek in the back of our
house and we grew up at the foot of the
(13:46):
Blue Ridge Mountains, and yeah, it was we had it
was country esque country adjacment.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You have a twin sister, are you identical or eternal?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is that your only sibling?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
And that's my only sibling?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, wow, before we get into the sibling stuff. Nuclear
I mean, that's a really amazing thing to do and
actually really interesting because obviously nuclear energy is like considered
(14:27):
one of the cleanest energies and a fascinating thing that's
going on with clean energy and nuclear energy because there's.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
A lot of fear around it. But it is a very.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Interesting like and how come you didn't become a nuclear physician.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I know, right, it's such an obvious question. No, it's
so you know, like back in those days, I wish
my dad was still alive because I would be so
my dad was like one of the greatest men ever known,
and he had so much integrity and such a good heart,
(15:08):
and he was involved in nuclear power. And I remember
growing up, you know, we weren't allowed to we weren't
allowed to speak Jane Funda's name in our house or
watch anything any watched watch anything that Jane Fonda was in.
And of course now I'm really good friends with Jane
Fonda and like she's like my idol, you know, But
(15:31):
at the time it was it's just so interesting because
my dad's like, she doesn't but she's talking about whatever.
And it was an important conversation to have at that time,
and it is now as well. But there was did
you guys ever hear of the Three Mile Island accident? Yeah,
so my dad's company he didn't do he wasn't in
(15:55):
charge of plant design when it happened, but my dad's
company did the plant designed for Three Mile Island. So
when that I'll never that was a very big thing
that happened in our household because my dad had to
jump in and deal with that. Wow, a whole thing.
So yeah, it was an interesting time and I would
love to I bet he would have so much to
(16:18):
say now in terms of clean energy and how that
relates and the right way to do it and the
wrong way to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, it's really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I have a friend who's actually in it, and she
was talking to me about it, and I really, yeah,
it was you know, because you you have these sort
of obvious, preconceived ideas around nuclear energy.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And then when you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Know, but but I'm no expert, but listening to people
who really know what they're talking about, it's it's a
it's a it's fascinating.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
What did Jane fond to do?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
She she she like really, you know, she was active,
she would she protested nuclear energy. And then she made
a movie called The China Syndrome.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes, which was you know Jack was Jack Lemon in that?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I remember?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I don't know because I wasn't allowed to watch it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was enemy number one in your household.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah, public enemy number one.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
That's so interesting, I know, isn't it funny? So your
sister is she creative? Is she in the arts?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
No, my sister and I from day one. I was
born eleven minutes before she was, which, by the way,
that's a long time, long time laboring mother.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I was just about to say that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, that's that's a big that's a big different yeah.
So but she uh, but we were always so different.
We looked completely different, like we don't even look like sisters,
no less twins. And then it's that funny thing where
(18:07):
you look back and we just are such different people.
But you kind of look back and it's like, did
we Because to some degree it feels like we chose it.
So it's like if I was interested in acting, then
she certainly wouldn't do that. You know. It's like we
were always trying to differentiate. So it's like she was,
(18:28):
you know, she was technically the smart one, you know,
and I was like the arsy one. But but it's
and it's I don't know if it's because we chose
that so that we could be, so we could separate
and be individual, or if it's because that's who we
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always were. You know, it's that funny thing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Were you super connected growing up?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I mean, honestly, we didn't have that. Like we've always
been and like we will we will jump to support
each other and help each other, and we've always had that,
but we were so different and also we were at
odds a lot growing up, so we didn't have you know,
(19:14):
a lot of twins talk about like this, they can
just each other's minds, and we didn't have any of that.
It was like we were like siblings, like just.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You guys were like I don't want to read your mind.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, like I don't even under you over there? Yeah
you do? You do? You?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
That's interesting because you really do.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Hear a lot about twins usually being so feeling bizarrely connected, you.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Know, yeah, I know, it's funny, like we it was
more I think it's more how I imagine siblings are
to each other.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, well how the fraternal though fraternal is just two.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Eggs, right yeah, right, yea eggs.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's like you just and the and the identicals when.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It splits, that's right.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I mean so clearly two eggs. I mean they're two
completely different entities. It's not really Yeah, the only real
sort of is that womb the womb connection and yeah
that yeah, so that's I mean, that's that would make
more sense. I mean, I would think identical twins probably
have the weird stuff more.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yeah, they I mean, because that's like that's part of
the same, They're part of the thing. Yeah, I mean, gosh,
think about like two eggs. That's like usually you do
that separately. Yeah, two things in there. I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I had a friend who had identical twins and she's
really young, and they were like so excited they're pregnant,
and then they found out that it was They're like, well,
you're having identical twins, and they both were like no,
we're not.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, we're not. And it was like a moment of
like this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, and then of course now like they're out their
kids are so cute and it's but.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
They didn't even know which was which.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, when they had to put a yarn like they
had that they because they were so identical.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, they were so identical.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
In the very beginning, they looked exactly the same, and
so they had to find the thing to identify.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Them as the difference. So so one, it's why Yeah,
and then very early on they could tell.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Like a tattoo, Yeah that's that's a good idea. Let's
just birth tattoos.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, so dark.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So when you were growing up, I mean, did you
you say your dad was lovely?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Was your mom? Did you just have a very wholesome
did it feel very wholesome?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
It was treaty, It was pretty wholesome. Yeah, it was
darn wholesome.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And your mom was she like, did she work or
was she?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
No? My mother? My mother? What did she used to say?
My mother didn't work outside the home like she used
to It was like it was basically like she was
acknowledging she worked, just not outside the home. She worked
(22:39):
in the home.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, so yeah, she my mother was like a.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Big volunteer, big community.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Did you have like dinners every night at six thirty?
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Every night we'd have dinner. I'd traveled a lot for work.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, like a lot of pot roasts, a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Of pot Okay, no, my mother, they were not the
best cook. So there were a lot of cast roles, yes,
and that usually involved cream of mushroom.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Soup, camel mushroom soup.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
My favorite chicken growing up was just cream and mushroom.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
My mom, it's our mom too.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Really, she still doesn't she still yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
There's never a day without cream and mushroom, campbell soup.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Well, she's very interesting cooks. I mean, she's an incredible cook.
And then at times she'll just throw a bunch of
ship into a pot and then like boil it and
then serve it with some monster cheese on top.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
She'll grab it and then all the next thing you know,
there's cumin going into your like wow, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Sudden, tuna. I don't think that works.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And then and then she'll finish it off with mistir
cheese on top under a broiler.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then you're like, we've never really unpacked.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Does that be the first time on our podcast we've
actually talked about this.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Let's talk about it, because I think it's really funny that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
She really is the queen of the one pot.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Oh yeah, it's so practical.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh god, yeah. Always her fingers are always sort.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Of like it's the fingers that can darting around in
the food.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Oh my god, I love that cook darting fingers. I
sometimes when I see them come to my food. If
she's going to pick something off my food. I'm like mom,
and then she she loves her eating. You do the
same thing, actually, yeah yeah yeah, Allie. Allie uses his
fingers to pick at your at other people's food too.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You're family, but you just get a little taste.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I listen, I'm all about it, Like I I like,
I like eating with my hands. It's like sensual, sensually.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
If you have any Jewish blood and any Italian blood,
we have both.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
There's a lot of hand eating.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah yeah, hand eating.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, a lot of
eating for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's like it's like this
the spice of life, as it were.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Do you cook? Are you cooking?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
No? Not at all, literally, not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So you just order food.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I order food every night.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You do every single.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I'm like, what do you want tonight? Little doms or sugarfish?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
We have one at least at least once a week,
we have both of those things. And then like I run,
and then I'm like, boy, were we going need tonight
because we already eat sugarfish and we alread eat little doms?
So I don't know, I can make breakfast. Yeah, I'm
really good at breakfast. But you guys are west Yeah,
we're west. Yeah, we're east.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
West side, west side and the east side in Los
Angeles is like, you might as well be living in
New York City like I might. Like, I actually see
my friends in New York more than I see my
friends in East of the four or five, Oliver.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Which was not the case when we were working together,
And now have a wonderful man in my life who
lives in Santa Monica. Oh oh no, that's that's a
real thing. That's really new. No, five years are.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
We I'm like, did you get a five years is
not new?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, because when we were working together, you're kind.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Of years for me is usually when it's over.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
I know, man, holding on, we're holding on.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm happy for you. That's so glad. I didn't know that.
That's so great.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I know it's great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's not Will Chase, is it?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Oh no?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I think I'm the only one who didn't say where.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Is Will in New York?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I love Will?
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You've seen Will lately?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
We had a trimming party. We had such a fun
number that one year we christ Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Tree Ingrid, you know, doing his thing.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Is he still with Ingrid.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah that's so great.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, no, I know he's great.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He's such a good he's such a good guy.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah, we need to have a little reunion.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do you keep in touching?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Union?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Actually text? I pretty good.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I loved that show. I think it's the only show
I watched of Oliver's really.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, well, like like consistently, Yeah no, no, I watched them,
but I don't watch them.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Like no, I get it, I get it. Everything I
do is not great.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
The life of any actor.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, but we honestly don't watch each No, I mean
I barely watch anything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But I was like hooked.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Oh yeah, really that I'm so always surprised by, Like,
people really loved that show. I did. I think I was.
I was traumatized because I was a new mother. Yeah,
it was so that show was so much work.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well especially because you were also producing it.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, and you know, singing and then likes and crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You know network soaphy drama that right, right.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I thought it was going to be one thing and
that's way soapier than I thought I was going to be.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And yeah, well I mean those scripts were like seventy pages.
I mean, yeah, it was crazy. It was so I
would do a scene and I'd be like, oh, that
was that. That was pretty good, that felt good, moving on,
blah blah. And then I'd watch it and it was
chopped within an inch of its life, where all of
a sudden you're like, oh, I'm a horrible it made
mean do a horrible actor.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Look, I know that, you're right.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I forgot about that. That's what was so frustrating, because
you couldn't really do a.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Performance no, because it was there was so much material.
I had just had to bring it down so much.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I think it's one of the things that it's
sort of the shows. I mean, granted, you know, I
loved Nashville, and it provided for me, even as as
someone who loved it, like it provided everything I wanted
from that, but as as from from like a creative
point of view, when you're trying to achieve something different,
(29:37):
it becomes so hard, you know, and and then it's
hard to decipher if it's good or not because you're like, well,
wait a minute, I was looking to do this. You're
trying to make this happen. Now I can't tell if
this is good. But it was good, you know what
I mean, Like it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Was exactly that.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Like it it gave you everything you wanted from it
wasn't Friday Night Lights.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Well that was the problem. I had just come from
Friday Night Lights, which was such a such a creative experience,
you know, and I thought, just I, you know, I
loved that. I loved that show and I loved doing it.
And so then I came into this and it was
all of those things that you were saying, Oliver, like
it was much more kind of pieced together, and there
(30:23):
were all these elements and it felt very network, you know,
and I kind of had thought it was going to
be more documentary style and like, so yeah, so I
was kind of I felt like I was always sort
of trying to fight those.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Fight for that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I guess when there's some it's always becomes like the
creatives and then the network exacts or the streamers or
whatever you're working with. There's always sometimes like an ad Odds,
when it comes to things that are a little bit
more what they consider network, it's like, you can make
this better, you know, right, Like, it doesn't have to
(31:12):
look like this for it to be this, to be
what you think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And so they kind of undermine the creatives, which is which.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
To me kind of ruins the genre of those types
of things, Like I feel that way in rom coms
all the time, they dumbed down like a rom com
when what you realize is that every great one was
created like like like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
A great film.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
It wasn't like, oh, we're going to make a rom
com and we're going to spend very little money and
we're going to cut out all the things that make
it good, so all your production value is gone because
it's okay, it's going to make certain people happy and
that's good enough exactly like that.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
You know who was in my household growing up on
a loop? Your mother? Yes, my favorite, like literally every
Goldie Han Chevy Chase movie like I that was my
biggest Those were my biggest inspirations of my life. And
though and we don't make movies like that anymore, like
(32:17):
a real romance, like amazing, hilarious.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean, look, you had Neil Simon writing, Yeah, you
had you had some of the great directors and writer.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I was just talking about last night seems like old times.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's so funny. I was talking about seems like old time.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Play. Yeah, foul play.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I was just talking about this.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I was. I was with Ken Jong John Hamm.
I had a weird dinner last night.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, And we were talking to you.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That's fun.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
It was fun. I was just start talking about seems like
old times. And it was Withroden and v and I was.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Talking about this movie that I'm producing with a friend
of mine and we're trying to I'm going to meet
this with this comedian who he was saying reminds him
of Chevy Chase.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And we started talking about it seems like all Times
and foul play because those movies were written to be
great movies, right that they weren't written to be comedy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Now now when people talk about, first of all, it
seems like people are afraid to make romantic comedies.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, there's been a resurgence, you know, with Glenn's movie
you know, right, it's called Anyone but You or you
know and and and there's there's been a bit of
a resurgence, but not let's say that they're good and
really but they're it's been semi successful, so there could be.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
And so you you forget like the great you know,
I I say, I My big thing is like you
have to invest in the talent for those things to
be the classics you or they're just going to come
and go. And I I get, But our industry, I mean,
this is obviously turning into it now.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We're this is a movie podcast, business podcast.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
We're going to bring it back to my siblings.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But you know, the industry is changing so drastically.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I feel sometimes like it was like music, you know,
fifteen years ago. The last eight years of our industry
have been like very drastic, and there's so much fear
based decisions being made right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Internally, I believe.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I agree with you. I think it's everything. It's just
there's no everything's imploding.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I feel like, yeah, I always believe that it's the
times when things are imploding where all of the people
who are used to making things for a lot of
money and and industry starts to change, is when.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Great art starts to happen.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
So what I'm excited about is for like my son's
generation and hopefully all of us veterans to get on
board with these young kids who want to tell stories
for nothing, and hopefully those will end up in the
theater and have some opportunity to be seen because.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
They're going to be doing things that you know, no
one's doing.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
There another outlet for those things to be seen.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Because it's still a business. Commerce matters.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
They're not going to be in theaters if it's not
going to make money.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean it goes back to all of that.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
There needs to be a a sort of a platform
to where these art pieces can be recognized and become
more mainstream.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I felt like at Toronto this year there were so
many cool movies, Like there was a lot. It felt
like how it used to feel.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
You know, we had COVID and then there was the strike,
but now it felt like there's all these movies that
are happening in Toronto when I was there at the
film festival, and same from my friends talking about Venice.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's a very robust year for good art.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
The question is we'll find out where do they go
and who sees them and do they have a life?
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, but are they going to be in the theater?
Are they what happens.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Now or are they going to get bought by a streamer?
Like how where do these movies where? You know, where
can they sit?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And you know what you need?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Like you need like a Jeff Bezos to say, here's
one hundred million dollars and we are going No, We're
going to finance art small movies, small television shows you
know that are personal pieces where the outcome is more.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
About the artistry and not the commerce. So I don't
care if it makes money. This is a grand right.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
But I will say this show that I was doing
in Toronto over compensating. It's for Amazon. Yeah, and it's
a real it's it is I think, you know. I
mean again, I just came in and did like a
couple episodes, But I think it. I think it's going
(36:51):
to have real artistry to it, and I think it's
going to tell a story that feels really relevant and
it's really personal to this you know.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean honestly, that's where we're at right now.
TV is where the artistry now is coming from. Because
some of these little shows, people take chances on them
and bang, you know what I mean, they get there
really really amazing and very really good, and they catch
on and it becomes a word of mouth type of thing.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
If you're if you're a great writer, if you can
do great writing and have a very clear vision, that
is half of it.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Yeah, it's it's and then and then and then the
opportunity to sort of or for the network streamer to
take their hands off and say, hey, you drive, because
you know what the fuck you're doing. I was actually
gonna ask you that did NBC because it was Pete Berg,
just say hey, you know what fucking go You're Pete Berg.
You're obviously great at what you do. You did Friday
(37:53):
Night Lights prior, like, just do do what you do
because it was so different for a TV show.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I mean, it was sort of.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
It was NBC. But what's interesting though they did say
that and and then Pete basically it was it was
really the trademark of the way we shot the show
because he was like, nobody pushes us around, Nobody put
you know, he like he would. He came when we
went to series, he came to Austin and he's like,
(38:24):
you're doing You guys are in charge. You guys have
to make sure we do this the way we do this.
You know what I mean? Because we would have visiting
directors and you know, but there was a very specific
style to that show that we all cherished, and it
gave everybody a sense of ownership for the show. But
you know, actually because in the very beginning, NBC really
(38:49):
like promoted it as like, you know, a show about
football with like beautiful young kids kind of thing, and
then that wasn't really landing. The truth is NBC got
rid of the show by the second season and it
was bought by direct TV. Nobody remembers that we were
(39:12):
going to be done about that, and the fans it
was like one of those things where the fans like
they sent in light bulbs to NBC, like save the show,
Save the show, and so direct TV bought the show, right, Yeah. Wow,
So we did one season of twenty two. The next
season we only did eighteen because it was the writer strike,
(39:35):
and then after that it was direct TV and so
we did I think thirteen every week for the rest
of the time.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Wow, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Did you were you like a young growing up? Is
this what you wanted to do? Were you like a
little performer? All the time?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I did? It was my dream, like as my you know,
I used to talk to my best friend on the phone. Well,
I was really lucky because I went to a public
high school, you know, little public high school in Lynchburg, Virginia,
and it had an amazing drama department. We had an
incredible drama teacher. And that was that was it for me.
(40:15):
I mean that was my whole high school. And it
was cool, like even the football players, like all the
cool boys liked did plays and stuff. So it wasn't
like we were drama nerds. We were like cool drama nerds.
And so I would always dream. I was like, well,
if I could do anything, we would talk about what
(40:35):
would we do. And I was like, well, I'd be
I'd be an actress, you know, if I could do anything.
And my best friend was like, I'd be a ski
bum like that. It was like, but those were comparable,
Like the reality of me being an actress was probably
less likely than being able to be a ski bum.
(40:55):
And so, and I went to college. You know my parents,
you know, nuclear physicists, Like we're all about education. I
went to college, Liberal Arts College.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Dartmouth in New Hampshire. Fancy fancy, so fancy.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
US Hudson's know nothing about.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
We don't go to college.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
US US ranch folks.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Ranch folks. I mean, guys, we have such we have
such different upbringings, we have such different experiences. Isn't it freaky?
Are you finding that with your podcast talking to people? Yeah,
it's staying talking about siblings because you must get so
(41:46):
much information about how people grow up.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
And yeah, the most interesting thing is the universal sort
of feeling is that you siblings can be raised the
exact same way, but the perception of how they were
raised is completely different. One thinks dad was incredible, and
the other one, who's two and a half years younger,
(42:10):
thinks Dad was an asshole, you know, even though they
were both raised the same way.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
But we don't have that for us. Yeah, no, no, no, no, Which.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is I find that interesting when that's happening.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, but kind of. I mean, you know, I'm Mom's favorite.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Are we like doing we are? We like doing a
research thing? Like should we write a book about siblings?
I feel like we are.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, it's well, it's such a fascinating relationship.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I just skip over that at this point.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
My sister and I have such like, really really different
points of view about life, and we are such dramatically
different people raised by the same two people in the
same house, given the same opportunities. It's it is fascinating,
(43:05):
you know, And so it kind of I don't know,
you know, it's it is sort of like when you
now that I'm a parent, thinking, oh god, I'm screwing
I'm gonna like totally screw him up or whatever, and
you realize, like there's not there's not a lot of
(43:27):
right answers when you're trying to be a parent. It's
just you just got to kind of show up.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
You just it's like I was listening to Love, just love. Yeah,
just be just be present.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, it's but just be present and be and be loving.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Your life experience is exactly what it is in that moment,
and you.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Just have to like, and you're for sure screwing him up.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
I mean we all do, oh exactly just what degree,
but we're all screwing him up somehow one way.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
My kids are perfect, but you're definitely screwing yours up.
But I feel like, I honestly feel like our childhood
there was so much it was it was it actually
really was quite an artistic unit we had because it
was unorthodox, like they weren't crazy like everyone.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So many people we talked to.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
It's a lot about education, like your parents, like that
was really important.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
The structure of that and all those things. We didn't
have any of that, Like no.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I can't remembered.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Right or being asked if we even had home.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
No.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, it was like our life experience growing up was
really about connecting with each other, being kind, showing up
for each other and laughter and.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Right and guys, you know what, I just realized. All
three of us were raised by your mother. I'm telling
you because she was such an inspiration in my house too,
Like I think she because my parents were much more
sort of conservative, and I think like I think I
was so drawn to her because of all those things
(45:14):
you just described, the laughter and this like kind of
like freedom to be joyful and put that out into
the world, you know.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
And I'm like filled with the like the opportunity to
make giant mistakes. Like we didn't grow up thinking, I mean,
you know, we didn't grow up thinking like if we
don't get into college, we will be failures, Like we
won't what will we do? Like the idea of making
(45:50):
mistakes was like part of your human existing you know, experience.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And so it you know. But then with that, you know,
you'd go to.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
A kid's house that had like parents that had nine
to five jobs and like really nicely structured and like
they sat down and ate every night, and you'd be like,
this is.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
This is weird, this is weird, this is cool.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I like this.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
Did you feel like you were missing something by not
having that?
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Not?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
No, not really, not in the moment.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, not in the moment.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
I mean even now, it's hard to look back and say, oh,
we missed out on that.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, I don't feel that we had such a loud,
boisterous Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
It was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Yeah, different places different Well, is there anything that you
guys do differently now with your like are consciously like, oh,
I'm going to do this this way.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
I think Kate, it is probably more than I do. Yeah,
it's way more structured. Her discipline matters to her more
than it does to me. You know, she's iron, fisty.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Fire wax.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
That does not tell my kids.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
When my kids, when they were a little bit younger, like,
we don't want to go to anti kids anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was like, why, They're like, because because she makes
us take our shoes off the door.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But yes, no, I I there are certain things I
think that I overcompensate with education a little bit. Because
we weren't you know, checked in on or there was
no sort of discipline with it. Now I make sure
the kids are doing their homework, you know, I want
(47:41):
them to have some work ethic.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Yeah, Oliver, and I just found out, Like we're talking
on the phone the other day and I was like,
I am so ADHD. I'm like a walking ADHD TikTok.
Like any the other day I was walking around my house.
I was supposed to leave like fifteen minutes before. I
had everything in my hands and before you know it,
I have nothing. I don't know where anything is. I
can't find my keys I just had them. I don't
(48:15):
know where my phone is.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
No, I'm walking in circles.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm one of those ADHD tiktoks
because I am deaf.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I am for sure.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
And right before we talked, I literally googled adult ADHD,
like how to diagnose because really I've had I ever
never thought about it because I didn't really care. But
now I'm realizing, Man, do I have fucking adh I
think I've got some.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Weird shit, you know? And and do I need a pill?
Or do I just roll you?
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But you absolutely do you do I mean.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Since I've been on this honestly, I've been on this
fucking cleanse, and I've never felt I've never had more energy,
I've never felt more clear, And I will say that
my focus has improved tremendously.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
But my point is is that in.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Happen with our family, Like we didn't think like that,
you know, the eighties, like you're not, that's not We
didn't structure for chaotic minds. We just lived in this
sort of fun, chaotic world and then when it was
time to really do your homework at last minute, you
just had to do it for me.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
With my son, I knew very early on that.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
He had something similar to what my challenges were and
was able to like actually help him structure his brain
so that now that he's in college, he has tools.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Really, how did you do that? How did you do that?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
I got I got him assessed because I could see
that there was some stuff going on with uh, just
learning challenges and he'd be fine with me talking about this,
but but he but then we've got him assessed, and
then we found out like we could see what his
spectrum was of his executive function and then his you know,
(50:14):
conceptual abilities how like he's brilliant. He would he was
testing in the above nineties. Sometimes one of them was
in like the hundred and something percentiles. Crazy in his
in his ability.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
To go over one hundred.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
No, he was in grade seventeen of of his of so.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
He where is he car?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
So you can test one hundred and eighteen percentiles?
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Now now I'm going to do that?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Heile, No.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
But but so basically he was testing it and then
and then his executive functioning was so low that he
he That's how we found out that he was really
like exactly like you know, textbook ADHD.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Now there's just labels for everything, like we were going
through all of this, I'm sure when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Now everything is labeled, so you know.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
I know, But then I feel like that's problematic because
I mean, some kids, it's like I think it gives
them a sense of identity, you know, like oh, I
have ADHD and I have dyslexia and you know all
this stuff. But I also think sometimes it can feel confining.
(51:36):
For like when you guys are talking about your the
sort of like freedom of your childhood but now realizing
as adults, like, oh shit, I have IDIO, Like I
had that my whole life. You know, I don't know,
there's it's it's finding the right balance.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Of I think.
Speaker 5 (51:56):
I think that what is interesting about it is that
where you would feel floating anxiety, where you would have
a certain thing that came with it that other people
didn't relate to, that now the research is showing that
people who do have certain things do have real ADHD.
A lot of them are artists, a lot of them
(52:17):
are very much more right brained and and but but
they also with that comes a lot of anxieties or
you know, like panic attacks and depression and yeah, and
so with that you at least now we can understand,
like it does create this idea that you're always having
(52:41):
to keep up with everybody else, yea, and in an
in an institution that is telling you to keep up
and it's so hard. Does create overall anxiety that your
brain actually attaches to as you get older, and you
don't know where it's coming from. And in a lot
of times, just having the knowledge of like, oh wait
a minute, I've been like chasing things my whole life.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Of course, I have a tendency for anxiety or.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Thinking I need to be a certain way right exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
You guys are literally talking about me.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
That's why I was saying, you need the work.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Very sensitive, very very sensitive person.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I know, where do you think where are you most
concerned about how you are raising your child? Meaning upon
self reflection? You know, is there is You're like, God,
I don't know if I'm doing this right? I think
I am, but I'm not sure is there anything specific,
especially being a working person, someone who's away, someone who's
(53:46):
making a living and following their dreams and doing what
they love.
Speaker 6 (53:50):
Well, that's a really good question because I feel like
it's just so across the board, you know, it becomes
this all encompassing like mom worried. But like the first
thing that comes to my mind when you ask, when
I listen to you listen to the question, is that
(54:12):
you know Yobi is adopted and black, and sometimes I
have I think an inherent like that's an inherent sort
of question mark for me, like am I doing this right?
Am I giving him.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
What he needs?
Speaker 6 (54:31):
Around those things? You know? There there's there's a mystery
I'm imagining for you guys as parents, like you see
yourselves and your kids so for me, there is a
mystery to that, Like Yobi is as a human being
that I am truly getting to know, like and I've
(54:54):
known since he was eight months old.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
But you know, there's.
Speaker 6 (55:01):
He's you know, I don't know where he comes from,
and so I mean I know where he comes from,
but like that's it's there are things that he had,
you know, like he has some learning differences as well,
and just navigating Oh, this is who you are, this
(55:22):
is what you need. I don't have any clues.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
So interesting. I never even thought about it that way.
Speaker 6 (55:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, And as as he gets older, you know, just
everything keeps blossoming beautiful.
Speaker 6 (55:42):
He is in the sweetest moment right now. Oh my god,
he's like the sweetest. But also he's listening to Kendrick
Lamar Kendrick Lamar and We're in the car driving to school,
and I'm like, but it's like, you know, I'm like,
he's so agree and I'm like, you know, every n
(56:03):
word every other second, and I just go like that.
I'm like, and he just looks at me and smile. Yeah,
you know, but it's like he's just so I'm so
into like discovering who he is.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, And that curiosity.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
I wonder if that curiosity is just going to keep
growing about who am I?
Speaker 2 (56:28):
You know what I mean, where do I come from?
Speaker 6 (56:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (56:33):
What makes me me?
Speaker 4 (56:35):
You know, as you get older, I'm sure that curiosity
is only going to sort of build in him.
Speaker 6 (56:40):
Yeah, and trying to help him be comfortable with those questions,
but also be comfortable with who he what he knows,
and who he is, you know in the world.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
There's this great I was listening. I was with being
on the way to school.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
This was before Kendrick Lamar because literally we listened to
this and then he put on Kendrick, but before I
listened to this rom DAWs thing. Uh, this him speaking
about I am just being comfortable with I am.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
And I loved it.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
And it's such a it was such a good thing
to play a t a budding teenager to like really think,
like when all of those things become complicated, what is it?
It's just to go it, go deep and just be
comfortable with I am right now, right where you are,
right now.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (57:33):
I'm going to find that.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
Okay, we love you.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
I wish we could.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
We were We're going to hang.
Speaker 6 (57:41):
It's like it let's make it happen. You're gonna we're
gonna father my child while I'm let me thank you.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
Look, you'll do well. It's going to come back an
amazing human being.
Speaker 5 (57:57):
Trust me, he'll definitely come back fishing and knowing how
to filly fish.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
That's are you serious? You'll be? Would he would literally
die to do that? Oh yeah, fishing so bad?
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Maybe I just got a one hundred pound blue fin
tuna right off of our coast on my I have
a boat.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
Yeah, baby, Well, if you don't take us out on
your boat.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
On, let's go catch some fish.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
But I'm not anymore.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
I know because you have a five year relationship.
Speaker 6 (58:27):
You love David, you have to.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I want to. I'm excited. I'm excited for you. I
love you.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
I love you guys, love you guys. So fun.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
By She's the best. I'm like it, I could be
there's you know woman, she's the best.
Speaker 5 (58:48):
I think you and a lot of men are in
love with Connie Britton, which is like, she's Connie Brittain.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
She's the best. I could have talked her for five hours.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
She's so easy. I love her whole energy.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
So that was that was the best week.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
We got totally off track. I like off track so fun.
Now that's it. I love you, Allie, I love you
Kaya
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
We are a sibling. Railvalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good. I love Ollie. I'm this is someone that
you know pretty well.
Speaker 4 (00:44):
You've worked with her, Yeah, I worked with her on
a show called Nashville. There's a good chance she was
extremely attracted to me during this time. But she is
the reason I even did this show because I was
getting paid zero dollars. It was right when Rio is born.
(01:08):
I'll tell her this wh when she comes on. I
was so afraid to leave, went to Nashville crying my
eyes out, and turned out to be a great fun
experience with my girl, Connie Britton.
Speaker 5 (01:22):
I think she is one of the greatest human beings
ever in our industry. She so loved I ran into
her at the airport in Toronto.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
She's probably there right now. I have a feeling in Toronto, yeah,
because she just.
Speaker 5 (01:37):
Yeah at the Toronto Film Festival. We're literally literally went
through customs together.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Oh my, and we what is she doing.
Speaker 1 (01:45):
I don't know. We can talk to her about it,
but should we bring.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Let's bring her and I want to have a few questions.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
Really do you?
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Yeah, I have a few questions, A few questions for Connie.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Mm hmmm, what is going on?
Speaker 6 (02:02):
And freaks?
Speaker 2 (02:04):
Hello, Hi guys.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Hi, are you still in Canada?
Speaker 4 (02:10):
No?
Speaker 6 (02:11):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (02:12):
No? So you're back.
Speaker 6 (02:14):
I'm back. I'm back. I was there very briefly, very great.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Yes.
Speaker 5 (02:19):
I was just telling Oliver that we ran into each
other in the customs.
Speaker 6 (02:23):
I had to have a little bit of a conversation
with myself though, because I ran into you and you
looked so like we've just been on that long flight,
and you looked so put together and fabulous, and I
was literally like in my pjs with like terrible hair
and no makeup, and I was like, I gotta I
gotta do better.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Oh no, you looked beautiful. You always looked beautiful.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Did you talk about me or no?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I don't think we did.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
We might have we She might have said, ow's all
are great?
Speaker 6 (02:59):
Okay, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that was the first
thing I said.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, no, no, I know.
Speaker 6 (03:04):
Yeah, Well, trying to get my work permit.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
It should be it should be top of mine.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
You have to get a work permit. You know, God, what.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Are you doing in Toronto?
Speaker 6 (03:14):
I'm not doing it anymore. I did this great show.
I just did a tiny little guest thing, this great
show called Overcompensating. Have you guys heard of I hadn't,
but now I know who he is and I will
I'm forever changed. Have you heard of Benny Drama? Benny
Drama from the internets?
Speaker 2 (03:37):
No.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
He is this amazing young comedian and has all the
you know kind of His whole story is about how
he comes from Idaho and he like put on, like
he was. He pretended to everybody that he was straight
for a really long time, and so this show is
about him doing that and then finally coming out in college.
(04:03):
And it's so funny and so good. I think this
show is going to be awesome.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Redded he is Shredded Shredded.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
He's very handsome.
Speaker 6 (04:13):
He's so handsome, he's so talented and funny. Are you
watching our video?
Speaker 1 (04:21):
We just watched it.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Watching a video.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
There's not not even sound on it.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
You can laugh funny.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
It was Charlie XCX because she was in the show.
She's in the show oh fine. So we were like
and I, you know, he was just doing that dance
and of course I had no idea what I was doing.
What difference does it make?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
How fun her? How are you good, babe? I deliver cleanse.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
I'm two weeks into intermittent fasting. I've lost eight pounds.
I feel good. I'm sexy. I'm sexier you know than
I mean.
Speaker 6 (05:01):
You know that's objective.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, it's objective. Yes, it's subjective, one of the objectives.
It's it's objective. I just did.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
Ojective objective.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
And uh, I'm good. I need a job, but I'm good.
Speaker 6 (05:24):
I want us to do. What are we going to do?
We have to do something?
Speaker 4 (05:27):
You're well, I know, I just there's so much untapped
talent that is just flowing through this And.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Even when I worked with you, there's so much untapped No,
I know, even.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
In every scene we've done.
Speaker 6 (05:42):
Do you I know it's in there somewhere.
Speaker 4 (05:47):
Do you do you remember when we were Do you
remember when we were doing a scene and I farted?
Speaker 6 (05:57):
Oh? I probably, I actually don't remember that.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
It was.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
It was it was one of the great moments in
my career. It was like something all serious where I'm
the asshole, you know, record guy, And I'm at like
Edge Hill Records or some shit, and I'm not supposed
to be there, and Connie's giving this whole speech of
like how I shouldn't be there and to get out
or whatever she's saying, and it's all serious, and I'm
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just looking at her.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
I'm supposed to deliver a line, and I just walk off.
Speaker 6 (06:34):
I remember the first my first time meeting you. You
had just gotten to set and you were in tears
because you just left your newborn baby. Yes who was
which one?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Which was Rio?
Speaker 5 (06:48):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:49):
Yeah, I mean I remember you're crying. Oh she was
ten days old. And I had to leave and I
was getting paid nothing for the first season. It was
just sort of show guest spot stuff. I just but honestly,
because you were in Nashville's like I need to mean,
it's Connie Britton. I have to go do this even
(07:09):
though I'm not getting paid. And I was devastated. I
was crying at the kitchen table when my car was
coming and I literally said I'm going to call my
manager and said, but this.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I'm a major. I remember that.
Speaker 4 (07:23):
I'm not going. Yeah, I said, I don't care if
ABC hates me. I don't care. I don't care. I'm
not I can't do this. And Aaron, my wife, was like,
get up, get in the fucking car.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
It all work out.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
But I was just devastated.
Speaker 6 (07:37):
Yeah, I mean I would have been the exact the whole,
like parenting and working things so hard. Yeah, it's so difficult.
Speaker 4 (07:50):
It's it's also like it's just my god, how's your baby,
by the way, crazy thirteen.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Thirteen like at that time, I mean that's how long
it's been, because at that time he was what three two.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
It's just crazy.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
I just feel like you're so lucky if you're able
to take your kids with.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
You and you're working.
Speaker 5 (08:09):
But the thing for our crazy life is like the
hours are just insane.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
It's like you just don't see your kids, you know.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
And nothing shoots in Lani anymore.
Speaker 5 (08:21):
I know I'm about to leave my girl for the
first time for two months, and I mean I won't
leave her for that whole time, but but it's like
I'm like having major separation anxiety, you know, it's like
a big, big time.
Speaker 6 (08:37):
I mean, I just know I have to say no
to things because I can't. I just I did this
thing in New York for six months in the winter
where I was basically commuting to New York, and it
just about killed me because also I can't stand being
away from him, Like I just can't stand it, and
(08:58):
especially now like he's getting into that, like you know,
it's like junior high. It's like oh and and then
so I would like literally land in New York, you know,
the last whatever midnight and of course have like a
five am pick up the next morning, and then the
second that I wrapped from set, like race to the
(09:21):
airport to get home. And I was doing it like
every week for like trex months and it's like it
wrecked me.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Yeah, and I guess to be wrecked. I guess what's happening?
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Where are you going to be shooting?
Speaker 1 (09:35):
It's so me, I'll be and I'll be around New York.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
Yeah, but you know, look, they get a little bit
older and you realize, like you do, you kind of
have to go back to it if you love it,
you know. So this is my first time really leaving
her for a longer period of time. Yeah, you know,
I will only go like ten days because I'm crazy
like that.
Speaker 1 (09:56):
But yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
Think you're Also, it hurts more for yourself than it
does your actual child.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
I know they're so happy, you know.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
Are more devastated than they are. That's I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
Listen, you know I'm a single mom. So like when
I'm gone, he's with a nanny.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Hmm, I'm available.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
By the way.
Speaker 5 (10:24):
He's the best, by the way, when I was a
single mom.
Speaker 6 (10:28):
God, for all he wants is siblings. So he just
I'm going to just drop him at your house with
your kids.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Honorary Hudson when you're out of town.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Oh my god, there will be a great father.
Speaker 6 (10:47):
You are a great father, and you will be a
great father to Yobi.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Of childhood Connie Britain, what was your childhood like? Where
were you born?
Speaker 6 (11:03):
I was born in Boston, Massachusetts.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
And did you live Were you born and raised there?
Speaker 6 (11:08):
No? I only lived there. My dad was in both
my parents weren't school there, you know, they got they
like had babies so young, and so we were born there.
But then my dad got out of school and we
moved to Maryland. So when I was like one, we
(11:29):
moved to Rockville, Maryland. Is that near DC or yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (11:36):
Our mom's from Maryland.
Speaker 5 (11:38):
Oh really, where she's from Tacoma Park, Silver Spring.
Speaker 6 (11:42):
Right, that's really that's near where I was. That's near
where we were. Yeah, but we only lived there till
we were seven, and then we moved to Virginia, Lynchburg, Virginia,
and that's where I always think, like, that's where I
think of when I think about where I grew up,
because I loved it. My mom. I remember my mom
(12:02):
being like she was from Connecticut and she thought that
like the world was over because we were going to
like the sticks in Lynchburg, Virginia, which you know, it
was certainly small town Virginia, but like it was a
great place to grow up. I had. I had so
much fun as a child.
Speaker 2 (12:24):
You guys move seven to till you left.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Well seven till yeah. And in fact, then my dad
because his work, like he he would switch he switched company,
like I think when we were in Maryland, he was
working for the guy. My dad was a nuclear physicist
and so he was working in nuclear energy for the government.
(12:48):
And then he moved to like a private company in Virginia.
But then actually when we when we graduated that my
parents moved to Ohio, Akron, Ohio. And then I thought
my life was over because I was I was going
to college, but I was so sad that we were leaving,
like my town that I loved. So yeah, but then
(13:12):
they ended up moving back there. Both of my parents
had passed away. But yeah, like that's my southern background.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
You so you have like you've like you're you're a
country girl.
Speaker 6 (13:25):
I mean kind of kind of. I'm a suburban girl.
It's it was probably more suburbs and country. But yeah,
but when I think back on it though comparatively, Yeah,
like we had a creek in the back of our
house and we grew up at the foot of the
(13:46):
Blue Ridge Mountains, and yeah, it was we had it
was country esque country adjacment.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
You have a twin sister, are you identical or eternal?
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Is that your only sibling?
Speaker 6 (14:01):
And that's my only sibling?
Speaker 2 (14:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Yeah, wow, before we get into the sibling stuff. Nuclear
I mean, that's a really amazing thing to do and
actually really interesting because obviously nuclear energy is like considered
(14:27):
one of the cleanest energies and a fascinating thing that's
going on with clean energy and nuclear energy because there's.
Speaker 1 (14:35):
A lot of fear around it. But it is a very.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Interesting like and how come you didn't become a nuclear physician.
Speaker 6 (14:43):
I know, right, it's such an obvious question. No, it's
so you know, like back in those days, I wish
my dad was still alive because I would be so
my dad was like one of the greatest men ever known,
and he had so much integrity and such a good heart,
(15:08):
and he was involved in nuclear power. And I remember
growing up, you know, we weren't allowed to we weren't
allowed to speak Jane Funda's name in our house or
watch anything any watched watch anything that Jane Fonda was in.
And of course now I'm really good friends with Jane
Fonda and like she's like my idol, you know, But
(15:31):
at the time it was it's just so interesting because
my dad's like, she doesn't but she's talking about whatever.
And it was an important conversation to have at that time,
and it is now as well. But there was did
you guys ever hear of the Three Mile Island accident? Yeah,
so my dad's company he didn't do he wasn't in
(15:55):
charge of plant design when it happened, but my dad's
company did the plant designed for Three Mile Island. So
when that I'll never that was a very big thing
that happened in our household because my dad had to
jump in and deal with that. Wow, a whole thing.
So yeah, it was an interesting time and I would
love to I bet he would have so much to
(16:18):
say now in terms of clean energy and how that
relates and the right way to do it and the
wrong way to do it.
Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, it's really fascinating.
Speaker 5 (16:26):
I have a friend who's actually in it, and she
was talking to me about it, and I really, yeah,
it was you know, because you you have these sort
of obvious, preconceived ideas around nuclear energy.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
And then when you.
Speaker 5 (16:41):
Know, but but I'm no expert, but listening to people
who really know what they're talking about, it's it's a
it's a it's fascinating.
Speaker 6 (16:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
What did Jane fond to do?
Speaker 1 (16:53):
Well?
Speaker 6 (16:54):
She she she like really, you know, she was active,
she would she protested nuclear energy. And then she made
a movie called The China Syndrome.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Yes, which was you know Jack was Jack Lemon in that?
Speaker 6 (17:12):
I remember?
Speaker 2 (17:12):
No, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 6 (17:14):
I don't know because I wasn't allowed to watch it.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Oh yeah, she.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
Was enemy number one in your household.
Speaker 6 (17:21):
Yeah, public enemy number one.
Speaker 5 (17:23):
That's so interesting, I know, isn't it funny? So your
sister is she creative? Is she in the arts?
Speaker 2 (17:29):
So?
Speaker 6 (17:29):
No, my sister and I from day one. I was
born eleven minutes before she was, which, by the way,
that's a long time, long time laboring mother.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
I was just about to say that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Yeah, that's that's a big that's a big different yeah.
So but she uh, but we were always so different.
We looked completely different, like we don't even look like sisters,
no less twins. And then it's that funny thing where
(18:07):
you look back and we just are such different people.
But you kind of look back and it's like, did
we Because to some degree it feels like we chose it.
So it's like if I was interested in acting, then
she certainly wouldn't do that. You know. It's like we
were always trying to differentiate. So it's like she was,
(18:28):
you know, she was technically the smart one, you know,
and I was like the arsy one. But but it's
and it's I don't know if it's because we chose
that so that we could be, so we could separate
and be individual, or if it's because that's who we
(18:49):
always were. You know, it's that funny thing.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
Were you super connected growing up?
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I mean, honestly, we didn't have that. Like we've always
been and like we will we will jump to support
each other and help each other, and we've always had that,
but we were so different and also we were at
odds a lot growing up, so we didn't have you know,
(19:14):
a lot of twins talk about like this, they can
just each other's minds, and we didn't have any of that.
It was like we were like siblings, like just.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
You guys were like I don't want to read your mind.
Speaker 2 (19:26):
I don't.
Speaker 6 (19:27):
Yeah, like I don't even under you over there? Yeah
you do? You do? You?
Speaker 1 (19:34):
That's interesting because you really do.
Speaker 5 (19:35):
Hear a lot about twins usually being so feeling bizarrely connected, you.
Speaker 6 (19:41):
Know, yeah, I know, it's funny, like we it was
more I think it's more how I imagine siblings are
to each other.
Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, well how the fraternal though fraternal is just two.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Eggs, right yeah, right, yea eggs.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
Yeah, it's like you just and the and the identicals when.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
It splits, that's right.
Speaker 6 (20:03):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
I'm glad.
Speaker 5 (20:14):
I mean so clearly two eggs. I mean they're two
completely different entities. It's not really Yeah, the only real
sort of is that womb the womb connection and yeah
that yeah, so that's I mean, that's that would make
more sense. I mean, I would think identical twins probably
have the weird stuff more.
Speaker 6 (20:36):
Yeah, they I mean, because that's like that's part of
the same, They're part of the thing. Yeah, I mean, gosh,
think about like two eggs. That's like usually you do
that separately. Yeah, two things in there. I can't even imagine.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
It's crazy.
Speaker 5 (20:55):
I had a friend who had identical twins and she's
really young, and they were like so excited they're pregnant,
and then they found out that it was They're like, well,
you're having identical twins, and they both were like no,
we're not.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
No, we're not. And it was like a moment of
like this is crazy.
Speaker 5 (21:15):
Yeah, and then of course now like they're out their
kids are so cute and it's but.
Speaker 1 (21:22):
They didn't even know which was which.
Speaker 5 (21:24):
Yeah, when they had to put a yarn like they
had that they because they were so identical.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
Yeah, they were so identical.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
In the very beginning, they looked exactly the same, and
so they had to find the thing to identify.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
Them as the difference. So so one, it's why Yeah,
and then very early on they could tell.
Speaker 6 (21:49):
Like a tattoo, Yeah that's that's a good idea. Let's
just birth tattoos.
Speaker 1 (21:55):
Yeah, so dark.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So when you were growing up, I mean, did you
you say your dad was lovely?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Was your mom? Did you just have a very wholesome
did it feel very wholesome?
Speaker 6 (22:08):
It was treaty, It was pretty wholesome. Yeah, it was
darn wholesome.
Speaker 1 (22:13):
And your mom was she like, did she work or
was she?
Speaker 6 (22:19):
No? My mother? My mother? What did she used to say?
My mother didn't work outside the home like she used
to It was like it was basically like she was
acknowledging she worked, just not outside the home. She worked
(22:39):
in the home.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, so yeah, she my mother was like a.
Speaker 6 (22:42):
Big volunteer, big community.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Did you have like dinners every night at six thirty?
Speaker 6 (22:49):
Every night we'd have dinner. I'd traveled a lot for work.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Yeah, like a lot of pot roasts, a lot.
Speaker 6 (22:57):
Of pot Okay, no, my mother, they were not the
best cook. So there were a lot of cast roles, yes,
and that usually involved cream of mushroom.
Speaker 1 (23:11):
Soup, camel mushroom soup.
Speaker 6 (23:14):
My favorite chicken growing up was just cream and mushroom.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
My mom, it's our mom too.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Really, she still doesn't she still yeah.
Speaker 5 (23:26):
There's never a day without cream and mushroom, campbell soup.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
Stop it.
Speaker 4 (23:30):
Well, she's very interesting cooks. I mean, she's an incredible cook.
And then at times she'll just throw a bunch of
ship into a pot and then like boil it and
then serve it with some monster cheese on top.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
She'll grab it and then all the next thing you know,
there's cumin going into your like wow, and all of a.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
Sudden, tuna. I don't think that works.
Speaker 4 (23:57):
And then and then she'll finish it off with mistir
cheese on top under a broiler.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
And then you're like, we've never really unpacked.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
Does that be the first time on our podcast we've
actually talked about this.
Speaker 6 (24:15):
Let's talk about it, because I think it's really funny that.
Speaker 1 (24:19):
She really is the queen of the one pot.
Speaker 6 (24:22):
Oh yeah, it's so practical.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
Oh god, yeah. Always her fingers are always sort.
Speaker 4 (24:28):
Of like it's the fingers that can darting around in
the food.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Oh my god, I love that cook darting fingers. I
sometimes when I see them come to my food. If
she's going to pick something off my food. I'm like mom,
and then she she loves her eating. You do the
same thing, actually, yeah yeah yeah, Allie. Allie uses his
fingers to pick at your at other people's food too.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
You're family, but you just get a little taste.
Speaker 6 (24:57):
I listen, I'm all about it, Like I I like,
I like eating with my hands. It's like sensual, sensually.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:06):
If you have any Jewish blood and any Italian blood,
we have both.
Speaker 1 (25:10):
There's a lot of hand eating.
Speaker 5 (25:12):
Yeah yeah, hand eating.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah, a lot of
eating for sure.
Speaker 6 (25:19):
Yeah. It's good. It's good. It's like it's like this
the spice of life, as it were.
Speaker 2 (25:24):
Do you cook? Are you cooking?
Speaker 6 (25:26):
No? Not at all, literally, not at all.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
So you just order food.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
I order food every night.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You do every single.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I'm like, what do you want tonight? Little doms or sugarfish?
Speaker 2 (25:43):
Right?
Speaker 6 (25:44):
We have one at least at least once a week,
we have both of those things. And then like I run,
and then I'm like, boy, were we going need tonight
because we already eat sugarfish and we alread eat little doms?
So I don't know, I can make breakfast. Yeah, I'm
really good at breakfast. But you guys are west Yeah,
we're west. Yeah, we're east.
Speaker 5 (26:07):
West side, west side and the east side in Los
Angeles is like, you might as well be living in
New York City like I might. Like, I actually see
my friends in New York more than I see my
friends in East of the four or five, Oliver.
Speaker 6 (26:22):
Which was not the case when we were working together,
And now have a wonderful man in my life who
lives in Santa Monica. Oh oh no, that's that's a
real thing. That's really new. No, five years are.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
We I'm like, did you get a five years is
not new?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, because when we were working together, you're kind.
Speaker 1 (26:48):
Of years for me is usually when it's over.
Speaker 6 (26:54):
I know, man, holding on, we're holding on.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
I'm happy for you. That's so glad. I didn't know that.
That's so great.
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I know it's great.
Speaker 2 (27:02):
It's not Will Chase, is it?
Speaker 4 (27:05):
Oh no?
Speaker 6 (27:06):
I think I'm the only one who didn't say where.
Speaker 2 (27:10):
Is Will in New York?
Speaker 1 (27:13):
I love Will?
Speaker 6 (27:14):
You've seen Will lately?
Speaker 5 (27:16):
We had a trimming party. We had such a fun
number that one year we christ Christmas.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Tree Ingrid, you know, doing his thing.
Speaker 6 (27:24):
Is he still with Ingrid.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah that's so great.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yeah, no, I know he's great.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
He's such a good he's such a good guy.
Speaker 6 (27:33):
Yeah, we need to have a little reunion.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Do you keep in touching?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
Union?
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Actually text? I pretty good.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
I loved that show. I think it's the only show
I watched of Oliver's really.
Speaker 5 (27:47):
Yeah, well, like like consistently, Yeah no, no, I watched them,
but I don't watch them.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
Like no, I get it, I get it. Everything I
do is not great.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
The life of any actor.
Speaker 4 (28:00):
No, but we honestly don't watch each No, I mean
I barely watch anything.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
But I was like hooked.
Speaker 6 (28:06):
Oh yeah, really that I'm so always surprised by, Like,
people really loved that show. I did. I think I was.
I was traumatized because I was a new mother. Yeah,
it was so that show was so much work.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
Well especially because you were also producing it.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, and you know, singing and then likes and crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
Yeah, and then.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
You know network soaphy drama that right, right.
Speaker 6 (28:37):
I thought it was going to be one thing and
that's way soapier than I thought I was going to be.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
And yeah, well I mean those scripts were like seventy pages.
I mean, yeah, it was crazy. It was so I
would do a scene and I'd be like, oh, that
was that. That was pretty good, that felt good, moving on,
blah blah. And then I'd watch it and it was
chopped within an inch of its life, where all of
a sudden you're like, oh, I'm a horrible it made
mean do a horrible actor.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
Look, I know that, you're right.
Speaker 6 (29:04):
I forgot about that. That's what was so frustrating, because
you couldn't really do a.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
Performance no, because it was there was so much material.
I had just had to bring it down so much.
Speaker 5 (29:14):
Yeah, I think it's one of the things that it's
sort of the shows. I mean, granted, you know, I
loved Nashville, and it provided for me, even as as
someone who loved it, like it provided everything I wanted
from that, but as as from from like a creative
point of view, when you're trying to achieve something different,
(29:37):
it becomes so hard, you know, and and then it's
hard to decipher if it's good or not because you're like, well,
wait a minute, I was looking to do this. You're
trying to make this happen. Now I can't tell if
this is good. But it was good, you know what
I mean, Like it.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
Was exactly that.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Like it it gave you everything you wanted from it
wasn't Friday Night Lights.
Speaker 6 (29:59):
Well that was the problem. I had just come from
Friday Night Lights, which was such a such a creative experience,
you know, and I thought, just I, you know, I
loved that. I loved that show and I loved doing it.
And so then I came into this and it was
all of those things that you were saying, Oliver, like
it was much more kind of pieced together, and there
(30:23):
were all these elements and it felt very network, you know,
and I kind of had thought it was going to
be more documentary style and like, so yeah, so I
was kind of I felt like I was always sort
of trying to fight those.
Speaker 1 (30:40):
Fight for that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:50):
I guess when there's some it's always becomes like the
creatives and then the network exacts or the streamers or
whatever you're working with. There's always sometimes like an ad Odds,
when it comes to things that are a little bit
more what they consider network, it's like, you can make
this better, you know, right, Like, it doesn't have to
(31:12):
look like this for it to be this, to be
what you think it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
And so they kind of undermine the creatives, which is which.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
To me kind of ruins the genre of those types
of things, Like I feel that way in rom coms
all the time, they dumbed down like a rom com
when what you realize is that every great one was
created like like like.
Speaker 1 (31:36):
A great film.
Speaker 5 (31:37):
It wasn't like, oh, we're going to make a rom
com and we're going to spend very little money and
we're going to cut out all the things that make
it good, so all your production value is gone because
it's okay, it's going to make certain people happy and
that's good enough exactly like that.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
You know who was in my household growing up on
a loop? Your mother? Yes, my favorite, like literally every
Goldie Han Chevy Chase movie like I that was my
biggest Those were my biggest inspirations of my life. And
though and we don't make movies like that anymore, like
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a real romance, like amazing, hilarious.
Speaker 5 (32:22):
I mean, look, you had Neil Simon writing, Yeah, you
had you had some of the great directors and writer.
Speaker 2 (32:28):
I was just talking about last night seems like old times.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
That's so funny. I was talking about seems like old time.
Speaker 2 (32:36):
Play. Yeah, foul play.
Speaker 1 (32:39):
I was just talking about this.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Yeah, I was. I was with Ken Jong John Hamm.
I had a weird dinner last night.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
Weird.
Speaker 2 (32:46):
Yeah, And we were talking to you.
Speaker 1 (32:48):
That's fun.
Speaker 4 (32:49):
It was fun. I was just start talking about seems like
old times. And it was Withroden and v and I was.
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Talking about this movie that I'm producing with a friend
of mine and we're trying to I'm going to meet
this with this comedian who he was saying reminds him
of Chevy Chase.
Speaker 1 (33:02):
And we started talking about it seems like all Times
and foul play because those movies were written to be
great movies, right that they weren't written to be comedy. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:16):
Now now when people talk about, first of all, it
seems like people are afraid to make romantic comedies.
Speaker 2 (33:21):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (33:21):
Well, there's been a resurgence, you know, with Glenn's movie
you know, right, it's called Anyone but You or you
know and and and there's there's been a bit of
a resurgence, but not let's say that they're good and
really but they're it's been semi successful, so there could be.
Speaker 5 (33:39):
And so you you forget like the great you know,
I I say, I My big thing is like you
have to invest in the talent for those things to
be the classics you or they're just going to come
and go. And I I get, But our industry, I mean,
this is obviously turning into it now.
Speaker 1 (33:56):
We're this is a movie podcast, business podcast.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
We're going to bring it back to my siblings.
Speaker 1 (34:02):
But you know, the industry is changing so drastically.
Speaker 5 (34:06):
I feel sometimes like it was like music, you know,
fifteen years ago. The last eight years of our industry
have been like very drastic, and there's so much fear
based decisions being made right now.
Speaker 1 (34:21):
Internally, I believe.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I agree with you. I think it's everything. It's just
there's no everything's imploding.
Speaker 5 (34:30):
I feel like, yeah, I always believe that it's the
times when things are imploding where all of the people
who are used to making things for a lot of
money and and industry starts to change, is when.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Great art starts to happen.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
So what I'm excited about is for like my son's
generation and hopefully all of us veterans to get on
board with these young kids who want to tell stories
for nothing, and hopefully those will end up in the
theater and have some opportunity to be seen because.
Speaker 1 (35:01):
They're going to be doing things that you know, no
one's doing.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
There another outlet for those things to be seen.
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Because it's still a business. Commerce matters.
Speaker 4 (35:13):
They're not going to be in theaters if it's not
going to make money.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
I mean it goes back to all of that.
Speaker 4 (35:18):
There needs to be a a sort of a platform
to where these art pieces can be recognized and become
more mainstream.
Speaker 2 (35:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
I felt like at Toronto this year there were so
many cool movies, Like there was a lot. It felt
like how it used to feel.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
You know, we had COVID and then there was the strike,
but now it felt like there's all these movies that
are happening in Toronto when I was there at the
film festival, and same from my friends talking about Venice.
Speaker 1 (35:47):
It's a very robust year for good art.
Speaker 6 (35:51):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (35:51):
The question is we'll find out where do they go
and who sees them and do they have a life?
Speaker 6 (35:57):
Yeah, but are they going to be in the theater?
Are they what happens.
Speaker 5 (36:01):
Now or are they going to get bought by a streamer?
Like how where do these movies where? You know, where
can they sit?
Speaker 2 (36:07):
And you know what you need?
Speaker 4 (36:09):
Like you need like a Jeff Bezos to say, here's
one hundred million dollars and we are going No, We're
going to finance art small movies, small television shows you
know that are personal pieces where the outcome is more.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
About the artistry and not the commerce. So I don't
care if it makes money. This is a grand right.
Speaker 6 (36:31):
But I will say this show that I was doing
in Toronto over compensating. It's for Amazon. Yeah, and it's
a real it's it is I think, you know. I
mean again, I just came in and did like a
couple episodes, But I think it. I think it's going
(36:51):
to have real artistry to it, and I think it's
going to tell a story that feels really relevant and
it's really personal to this you know.
Speaker 4 (37:02):
Yeah, Well, I mean honestly, that's where we're at right now.
TV is where the artistry now is coming from. Because
some of these little shows, people take chances on them
and bang, you know what I mean, they get there
really really amazing and very really good, and they catch
on and it becomes a word of mouth type of thing.
Speaker 6 (37:23):
If you're if you're a great writer, if you can
do great writing and have a very clear vision, that
is half of it.
Speaker 4 (37:31):
Yeah, it's it's and then and then and then the
opportunity to sort of or for the network streamer to
take their hands off and say, hey, you drive, because
you know what the fuck you're doing. I was actually
gonna ask you that did NBC because it was Pete Berg,
just say hey, you know what fucking go You're Pete Berg.
You're obviously great at what you do. You did Friday
(37:53):
Night Lights prior, like, just do do what you do
because it was so different for a TV show.
Speaker 2 (37:59):
I mean, it was sort of.
Speaker 6 (38:03):
It was NBC. But what's interesting though they did say
that and and then Pete basically it was it was
really the trademark of the way we shot the show
because he was like, nobody pushes us around, Nobody put
you know, he like he would. He came when we
went to series, he came to Austin and he's like,
(38:24):
you're doing You guys are in charge. You guys have
to make sure we do this the way we do this.
You know what I mean? Because we would have visiting
directors and you know, but there was a very specific
style to that show that we all cherished, and it
gave everybody a sense of ownership for the show. But
you know, actually because in the very beginning, NBC really
(38:49):
like promoted it as like, you know, a show about
football with like beautiful young kids kind of thing, and
then that wasn't really landing. The truth is NBC got
rid of the show by the second season and it
was bought by direct TV. Nobody remembers that we were
(39:12):
going to be done about that, and the fans it
was like one of those things where the fans like
they sent in light bulbs to NBC, like save the show,
Save the show, and so direct TV bought the show, right, Yeah. Wow,
So we did one season of twenty two. The next
season we only did eighteen because it was the writer strike,
(39:35):
and then after that it was direct TV and so
we did I think thirteen every week for the rest
of the time.
Speaker 2 (39:40):
Wow, I forgot that.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (39:42):
Did you were you like a young growing up? Is
this what you wanted to do? Were you like a
little performer? All the time?
Speaker 6 (39:52):
I did? It was my dream, like as my you know,
I used to talk to my best friend on the phone. Well,
I was really lucky because I went to a public
high school, you know, little public high school in Lynchburg, Virginia,
and it had an amazing drama department. We had an
incredible drama teacher. And that was that was it for me.
(40:15):
I mean that was my whole high school. And it
was cool, like even the football players, like all the
cool boys liked did plays and stuff. So it wasn't
like we were drama nerds. We were like cool drama nerds.
And so I would always dream. I was like, well,
if I could do anything, we would talk about what
(40:35):
would we do. And I was like, well, I'd be
I'd be an actress, you know, if I could do anything.
And my best friend was like, I'd be a ski
bum like that. It was like, but those were comparable,
Like the reality of me being an actress was probably
less likely than being able to be a ski bum.
(40:55):
And so, and I went to college. You know my parents,
you know, nuclear physicists, Like we're all about education. I
went to college, Liberal Arts College.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Where'd you go to school?
Speaker 6 (41:09):
Dartmouth in New Hampshire. Fancy fancy, so fancy.
Speaker 1 (41:16):
US Hudson's know nothing about.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
We don't go to college.
Speaker 1 (41:22):
US US ranch folks.
Speaker 6 (41:25):
Ranch folks. I mean, guys, we have such we have
such different upbringings, we have such different experiences. Isn't it freaky?
Are you finding that with your podcast talking to people? Yeah,
it's staying talking about siblings because you must get so
(41:46):
much information about how people grow up.
Speaker 4 (41:49):
And yeah, the most interesting thing is the universal sort
of feeling is that you siblings can be raised the
exact same way, but the perception of how they were
raised is completely different. One thinks dad was incredible, and
the other one, who's two and a half years younger,
(42:10):
thinks Dad was an asshole, you know, even though they
were both raised the same way.
Speaker 2 (42:15):
But we don't have that for us. Yeah, no, no, no, no, Which.
Speaker 1 (42:18):
Is I find that interesting when that's happening.
Speaker 2 (42:21):
Yeah, but kind of. I mean, you know, I'm Mom's favorite.
Speaker 1 (42:26):
Are we like doing we are? We like doing a
research thing? Like should we write a book about siblings?
I feel like we are.
Speaker 4 (42:35):
Yeah, it's well, it's such a fascinating relationship.
Speaker 1 (42:40):
I just skip over that at this point.
Speaker 6 (42:42):
My sister and I have such like, really really different
points of view about life, and we are such dramatically
different people raised by the same two people in the
same house, given the same opportunities. It's it is fascinating,
(43:05):
you know, And so it kind of I don't know,
you know, it's it is sort of like when you
now that I'm a parent, thinking, oh god, I'm screwing
I'm gonna like totally screw him up or whatever, and
you realize, like there's not there's not a lot of
(43:27):
right answers when you're trying to be a parent. It's
just you just got to kind of show up.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
You just it's like I was listening to Love, just love. Yeah,
just be just be present.
Speaker 6 (43:40):
Yeah, it's but just be present and be and be loving.
Speaker 1 (43:45):
It just is what it is.
Speaker 5 (43:46):
Your life experience is exactly what it is in that moment,
and you.
Speaker 2 (43:50):
Just have to like, and you're for sure screwing him up.
Speaker 4 (43:53):
I mean we all do, oh exactly just what degree,
but we're all screwing him up somehow one way.
Speaker 5 (44:01):
My kids are perfect, but you're definitely screwing yours up.
But I feel like, I honestly feel like our childhood
there was so much it was it was it actually
really was quite an artistic unit we had because it
was unorthodox, like they weren't crazy like everyone.
Speaker 1 (44:23):
So many people we talked to.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
It's a lot about education, like your parents, like that
was really important.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
The structure of that and all those things. We didn't
have any of that, Like no.
Speaker 2 (44:31):
I can't remembered.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Right or being asked if we even had home.
Speaker 6 (44:37):
No.
Speaker 7 (44:38):
Yeah, it was like our life experience growing up was
really about connecting with each other, being kind, showing up
for each other and laughter and.
Speaker 6 (44:52):
Right and guys, you know what, I just realized. All
three of us were raised by your mother. I'm telling
you because she was such an inspiration in my house too,
Like I think she because my parents were much more
sort of conservative, and I think like I think I
was so drawn to her because of all those things
(45:14):
you just described, the laughter and this like kind of
like freedom to be joyful and put that out into
the world, you know.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
And I'm like filled with the like the opportunity to
make giant mistakes. Like we didn't grow up thinking, I mean,
you know, we didn't grow up thinking like if we
don't get into college, we will be failures, Like we
won't what will we do? Like the idea of making
(45:50):
mistakes was like part of your human existing you know, experience.
Speaker 1 (45:57):
And so it you know. But then with that, you know,
you'd go to.
Speaker 5 (46:01):
A kid's house that had like parents that had nine
to five jobs and like really nicely structured and like
they sat down and ate every night, and you'd be like,
this is.
Speaker 4 (46:11):
This is weird, this is weird, this is cool.
Speaker 1 (46:16):
I like this.
Speaker 6 (46:17):
Did you feel like you were missing something by not
having that?
Speaker 5 (46:21):
Not?
Speaker 1 (46:21):
No, not really, not in the moment.
Speaker 2 (46:23):
Yeah, not in the moment.
Speaker 4 (46:24):
I mean even now, it's hard to look back and say, oh,
we missed out on that.
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Yeah, I don't feel that we had such a loud,
boisterous Yeah.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
It was kind of all over the place.
Speaker 6 (46:36):
Yeah, different places different Well, is there anything that you
guys do differently now with your like are consciously like, oh,
I'm going to do this this way.
Speaker 4 (46:45):
I think Kate, it is probably more than I do. Yeah,
it's way more structured. Her discipline matters to her more
than it does to me. You know, she's iron, fisty.
Speaker 1 (47:00):
Fire wax.
Speaker 6 (47:02):
That does not tell my kids.
Speaker 4 (47:05):
When my kids, when they were a little bit younger, like,
we don't want to go to anti kids anymore.
Speaker 2 (47:10):
I was like, why, They're like, because because she makes
us take our shoes off the door.
Speaker 4 (47:20):
But yes, no, I I there are certain things I
think that I overcompensate with education a little bit. Because
we weren't you know, checked in on or there was
no sort of discipline with it. Now I make sure
the kids are doing their homework, you know, I want
(47:41):
them to have some work ethic.
Speaker 5 (47:53):
Yeah, Oliver, and I just found out, Like we're talking
on the phone the other day and I was like,
I am so ADHD. I'm like a walking ADHD TikTok.
Like any the other day I was walking around my house.
I was supposed to leave like fifteen minutes before. I
had everything in my hands and before you know it,
I have nothing. I don't know where anything is. I
can't find my keys I just had them. I don't
(48:15):
know where my phone is.
Speaker 1 (48:16):
No, I'm walking in circles.
Speaker 5 (48:18):
Yeah, I'm like, oh, I'm one of those ADHD tiktoks
because I am deaf.
Speaker 1 (48:22):
I am for sure.
Speaker 4 (48:24):
And right before we talked, I literally googled adult ADHD,
like how to diagnose because really I've had I ever
never thought about it because I didn't really care. But
now I'm realizing, Man, do I have fucking adh I
think I've got some.
Speaker 2 (48:43):
Weird shit, you know? And and do I need a pill?
Or do I just roll you?
Speaker 1 (48:49):
But you absolutely do you do I mean.
Speaker 4 (48:51):
Since I've been on this honestly, I've been on this
fucking cleanse, and I've never felt I've never had more energy,
I've never felt more clear, And I will say that
my focus has improved tremendously.
Speaker 1 (49:05):
But my point is is that in.
Speaker 5 (49:11):
Happen with our family, Like we didn't think like that,
you know, the eighties, like you're not, that's not We
didn't structure for chaotic minds. We just lived in this
sort of fun, chaotic world and then when it was
time to really do your homework at last minute, you
just had to do it for me.
Speaker 1 (49:31):
With my son, I knew very early on that.
Speaker 5 (49:35):
He had something similar to what my challenges were and
was able to like actually help him structure his brain
so that now that he's in college, he has tools.
Speaker 6 (49:48):
Really, how did you do that? How did you do that?
Speaker 2 (49:50):
Well?
Speaker 5 (49:51):
I got I got him assessed because I could see
that there was some stuff going on with uh, just
learning challenges and he'd be fine with me talking about this,
but but he but then we've got him assessed, and
then we found out like we could see what his
spectrum was of his executive function and then his you know,
(50:14):
conceptual abilities how like he's brilliant. He would he was
testing in the above nineties. Sometimes one of them was
in like the hundred and something percentiles. Crazy in his
in his ability.
Speaker 2 (50:28):
To go over one hundred.
Speaker 5 (50:30):
No, he was in grade seventeen of of his of so.
Speaker 1 (50:36):
He where is he car?
Speaker 2 (50:37):
So you can test one hundred and eighteen percentiles?
Speaker 6 (50:43):
Now now I'm going to do that?
Speaker 2 (50:47):
Heile, No.
Speaker 5 (50:54):
But but so basically he was testing it and then
and then his executive functioning was so low that he
he That's how we found out that he was really
like exactly like you know, textbook ADHD.
Speaker 4 (51:08):
Now there's just labels for everything, like we were going
through all of this, I'm sure when we were kids.
Speaker 2 (51:13):
Now everything is labeled, so you know.
Speaker 6 (51:16):
I know, But then I feel like that's problematic because
I mean, some kids, it's like I think it gives
them a sense of identity, you know, like oh, I
have ADHD and I have dyslexia and you know all
this stuff. But I also think sometimes it can feel confining.
(51:36):
For like when you guys are talking about your the
sort of like freedom of your childhood but now realizing
as adults, like, oh shit, I have IDIO, Like I
had that my whole life. You know, I don't know,
there's it's it's finding the right balance.
Speaker 1 (51:54):
Of I think.
Speaker 5 (51:56):
I think that what is interesting about it is that
where you would feel floating anxiety, where you would have
a certain thing that came with it that other people
didn't relate to, that now the research is showing that
people who do have certain things do have real ADHD.
A lot of them are artists, a lot of them
(52:17):
are very much more right brained and and but but
they also with that comes a lot of anxieties or
you know, like panic attacks and depression and yeah, and
so with that you at least now we can understand,
like it does create this idea that you're always having
(52:41):
to keep up with everybody else, yea, and in an
in an institution that is telling you to keep up
and it's so hard. Does create overall anxiety that your
brain actually attaches to as you get older, and you
don't know where it's coming from. And in a lot
of times, just having the knowledge of like, oh wait
a minute, I've been like chasing things my whole life.
Speaker 1 (53:04):
Of course, I have a tendency for anxiety or.
Speaker 6 (53:07):
Thinking I need to be a certain way right exactly.
Speaker 1 (53:10):
Yeah, Yeah, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (53:12):
You guys are literally talking about me.
Speaker 3 (53:14):
I know.
Speaker 1 (53:15):
That's why I was saying, you need the work.
Speaker 2 (53:17):
Very sensitive, very very sensitive person.
Speaker 4 (53:21):
I know, where do you think where are you most
concerned about how you are raising your child? Meaning upon
self reflection? You know, is there is You're like, God,
I don't know if I'm doing this right? I think
I am, but I'm not sure is there anything specific,
especially being a working person, someone who's away, someone who's
(53:46):
making a living and following their dreams and doing what
they love.
Speaker 6 (53:50):
Well, that's a really good question because I feel like
it's just so across the board, you know, it becomes
this all encompassing like mom worried. But like the first
thing that comes to my mind when you ask, when
I listen to you listen to the question, is that
(54:12):
you know Yobi is adopted and black, and sometimes I
have I think an inherent like that's an inherent sort
of question mark for me, like am I doing this right?
Am I giving him.
Speaker 1 (54:29):
What he needs?
Speaker 6 (54:31):
Around those things? You know? There there's there's a mystery
I'm imagining for you guys as parents, like you see
yourselves and your kids so for me, there is a
mystery to that, Like Yobi is as a human being
that I am truly getting to know, like and I've
(54:54):
known since he was eight months old.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
But you know, there's.
Speaker 6 (55:01):
He's you know, I don't know where he comes from,
and so I mean I know where he comes from,
but like that's it's there are things that he had,
you know, like he has some learning differences as well,
and just navigating Oh, this is who you are, this
(55:22):
is what you need. I don't have any clues.
Speaker 2 (55:27):
So interesting. I never even thought about it that way.
Speaker 6 (55:30):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (55:31):
Yeah, And as as he gets older, you know, just
everything keeps blossoming beautiful.
Speaker 6 (55:42):
He is in the sweetest moment right now. Oh my god,
he's like the sweetest. But also he's listening to Kendrick
Lamar Kendrick Lamar and We're in the car driving to school,
and I'm like, but it's like, you know, I'm like,
he's so agree and I'm like, you know, every n
(56:03):
word every other second, and I just go like that.
I'm like, and he just looks at me and smile. Yeah,
you know, but it's like he's just so I'm so
into like discovering who he is.
Speaker 2 (56:21):
Yeah, And that curiosity.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
I wonder if that curiosity is just going to keep
growing about who am I?
Speaker 2 (56:28):
You know what I mean, where do I come from?
Speaker 6 (56:31):
You know?
Speaker 2 (56:33):
What makes me me?
Speaker 4 (56:35):
You know, as you get older, I'm sure that curiosity
is only going to sort of build in him.
Speaker 6 (56:40):
Yeah, and trying to help him be comfortable with those questions,
but also be comfortable with who he what he knows,
and who he is, you know in the world.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
There's this great I was listening. I was with being
on the way to school.
Speaker 5 (56:57):
This was before Kendrick Lamar because literally we listened to
this and then he put on Kendrick, but before I
listened to this rom DAWs thing. Uh, this him speaking
about I am just being comfortable with I am.
Speaker 1 (57:13):
And I loved it.
Speaker 5 (57:14):
And it's such a it was such a good thing
to play a t a budding teenager to like really think,
like when all of those things become complicated, what is it?
It's just to go it, go deep and just be
comfortable with I am right now, right where you are,
right now.
Speaker 1 (57:32):
It was pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (57:33):
I'm going to find that.
Speaker 1 (57:34):
Okay, we love you.
Speaker 6 (57:36):
I wish we could.
Speaker 1 (57:38):
We were We're going to hang.
Speaker 6 (57:41):
It's like it let's make it happen. You're gonna we're
gonna father my child while I'm let me thank you.
Speaker 4 (57:48):
Look, you'll do well. It's going to come back an
amazing human being.
Speaker 5 (57:57):
Trust me, he'll definitely come back fishing and knowing how
to filly fish.
Speaker 6 (58:02):
That's are you serious? You'll be? Would he would literally
die to do that? Oh yeah, fishing so bad?
Speaker 2 (58:11):
Maybe I just got a one hundred pound blue fin
tuna right off of our coast on my I have
a boat.
Speaker 6 (58:16):
Yeah, baby, Well, if you don't take us out on
your boat.
Speaker 2 (58:20):
On, let's go catch some fish.
Speaker 6 (58:21):
But I'm not anymore.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
I know because you have a five year relationship.
Speaker 6 (58:27):
You love David, you have to.
Speaker 2 (58:30):
I want to. I'm excited. I'm excited for you. I
love you.
Speaker 6 (58:34):
I love you guys, love you guys. So fun.
Speaker 1 (58:38):
By She's the best. I'm like it, I could be
there's you know woman, she's the best.
Speaker 5 (58:48):
I think you and a lot of men are in
love with Connie Britton, which is like, she's Connie Brittain.
Speaker 1 (58:53):
She's the best. I could have talked her for five hours.
Speaker 2 (58:57):
She's so easy. I love her whole energy.
Speaker 6 (59:00):
So that was that was the best week.
Speaker 1 (59:02):
We got totally off track. I like off track so fun.
Now that's it. I love you, Allie, I love you
Kaya
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