May 5, 2025 • 56 mins
She's our favorite chart-topping Señorita, Camila Cabello joins the revelry with her little sister Sofia! If you want to stand a chance with Camila, you gotta win her family over first!
From the big breakup Sofia says she saw coming, to who the real party animal of the family is, the sisters share some family secrets.
Plus, the name Camila went by in school because she was too shy to correct her classmates!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling raivalr No, no, sibling hopeful.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good, Oliver.
(00:45):
I'm super excited because I say this every time.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That's what I say every time. I'm super excited. To
realize that, I hate.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
When I you may genuinely are. I hate super excited.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know what.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm always super excited about everything.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's like my super excited.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
My friend's always like you, he goes. You always say
like that's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm like, no, every time I hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, I think it's best not to point out the
idiosyncrasies of people because it gets in your head.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
But I'm super excited.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well this one, actually you should be because they flew
in for us. I'm so I don't believe that, but like,
that's what I.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Was saying, which is such a weird thing. Why wouldn't
you believe that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Because no one flies from Miami to LA to be
on sibling Revelry. They have to have other things they're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Why do you have such a low self esteem?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No, I just am I'm just curious. Well, that's actually
a real question that there's nothing to do with the
topic of these sisters flying in. If we wanted to
get my low self esteem, that's another three to four
podcasts to get through.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I am excited to be to our guests today. We
are here together and it's so much fun.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I love being with the people that were interviewing and
not zooming the best. It's the best, the best.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You guys, thank you for coming on our podcast. And Sophia,
so Fia, my best friend's name is so.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Your best friend, Sophie, one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One of you said my best say.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
One, she's one of my best one of my besties.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well she's very little, she is.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
She's so tiny, she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Who would you say, is your best friend? Do you
have a best friend? You can say it, they won't,
No one else will be offended.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think I have I think I have like a
core group of best friends. I think Jamie m Jamie.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's like one of is like probably at the time,
top of the.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Pyramid here, No I would say laur Lynn great name,
laur Lynn yea alliteration Laurland Stark.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm very lucky because well, there's old in a friend group,
you have, yea, a hierarchy. There's a hierarchy, there has
to be for sure, you know. But I go to
there's there's certain better than others.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
There was this.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Great book that I read that talked about friendships and
I forget okay, but it might come to me friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It was about how like what is it that that
that you value in the friendship and what is it
that they like like offer you in terms of connectivity
and love and all those things.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And you you could do with your friendships and you
do with your.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Family, and then you really see like who do you
go to for like what like how does this person
serve your life? It's kind of narcissistic in the sense
that it's like how do they serve you?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But there human beings, that's how we work.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
It does sort of it does like highlight the people
that are really there for you, you know, like which
sibling is the person you call when.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Something's going on? Which friend?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah definitely okay, yeah, definitely awkward. But other than that
other than that, he does nothing for me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's just like today in the car we're talking about
like he's sort of interrupted, just let me vent.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
He's like, yeah, no, no, first you were like first
you're like, I don't want this to get over. I
don't want this year. I don't want this to be a thing.
I'm like, shut up, I need to just let me
get it out.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't want whatever this conversation was. I don't want
her going back to this person and blowing the ship up.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You're a fixer, you.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Go to the fixed.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. And you know,
and he's an avoidant.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh my god, you look like a cinnamon roll and
you are a cinnamon roll. Yeah, well, I don't think you.
I don't actually think. I actually think you look like
he looks like he could kill you. But is a
cinnamon role. Yeah, I actually think it's more that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I think that's what am I. I'm definitely cinnamon roll.
But I'm a weird, a little nutty.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, but you would you know she's.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right and hurt people.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I can go for the jugular. I get Oh, I
forgot about that white Oh yeahsh of, like, oh my god,
I don't know what the I'm about to do?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Right, white hot heat and.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You get white hot heat, it's.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Like you like you need to take out the venom,
Like if you're a scorpion, just like you need to
let it out.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Are you a scorpio?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Oh no, my dad is Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Our mom's a scorpio.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's that tail tails. Do you guys find
Are you guys very kind of opposite in personalities? Because
we're I feel like we're very like different surface surface
level wise, we're very different.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think so, but we're not Like that's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think I think we are, but there's a root
that is very very similar.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh, I have a good way to frame this question.
Somebody was like, there's always somebody in a relationship, for example,
that's a black cat and somebody that's a golden retriever.
So it's like who's the black cat and who's the
golden Retriever? Because I feel like you're the black cat
and I'm the Golden Retriever.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, maybe I'm a golden Retriever.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm kind of like a Golden Retriever, like the Golden Retriever,
I kind of kind of deep down, I feel.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Like black Cat is somebody that's intrinsically more how would
you describe it, Like a little bit more like, yeah, like.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Being is the black Cat and riders the Golden Retriever.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I enjoy the underbelly of life. I think there's something
about it, seedy about you. Yeah, no, I do, because
when we see.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
People like a black cat in the in the back alley, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right with with very green eyes. When when we meet people,
when we meet people, it's always about that sort of
not it's small talk, but no one really digs into
sort of who you really are. And to get to
know someone, you have to know the bolt of ship,
(07:17):
the underbelly, the pain, yeah, the addictions, the nasty ship,
because that's true is where real life sort of exists.
We put on a bit of a facade. So I'm
interested in that me too much too, And I'm interested
and indulging in that ship, which as I've gotten older,
you have to relinquish that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
He's been sober for months, thirty days.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Congrats.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tomorrow, I'm going to Mexico and that's all going to
go to hell.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So but it's been great.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You take a I needed to take a break. Yeah,
I was just drinking too much.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah yeah, no enough, fair enough. Yeah, I feel like
I realized, like its just like just makes me feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Oh my god, you drink and you stop drinking.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I still do like occasionally, but I honestly rarely rarely
do because I just like the next day or few days,
I would like get sick. I don't know, Oh my god,
I would get like crazy stomograms. And also like I
feel like if I'm stressed, it really triggers my acid reflux.
So I would be at a party and I'd be
like literally.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Like over So yeah, I just got like a prescription
for acid reflux because it was getting bad.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is that stress related for you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't know what it is. It's a disaster, beautiful disaster.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Wait, this brings me to one thing. This is a
fun thing. We did this on the set of Running Point,
which is we all like said, like, what animal are
you like? If there was an animal that you felt
like most closely connected to, what is it? And it's
really interesting to see what you think of yourself and
what others think.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, okay, okay, let's all go, let's all go.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
We could do this at the end. Okay, maybe we
do this at the end. I want to know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay, let's do let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because I don't even know. Do you have any idea
of what what you guys would be? Don't say it,
but I.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I for you for myself.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Is it personality based?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think it's like a It's like a like a feeling,
like what animal you see and you feel maybe emotionally connect,
you're like you gravitate towards. I have one kind of
in my mind, and then I feel like I definitely
have to get to know you guys more before I
can see what animal you guys would be. Yeah, you
know what I mean. Yeah, I know what animals she
would Actually I don't, but.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
If I think about it, anything that would exist like
in the animal kingdom, she's probably.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
In the in the felines or cat family.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Maybe Like wow, I can actually see that, you know,
not thinking about and I don't know the name of it.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I can see that because I want like an ugly animal.
I think ugly animals are really cute.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, And also because like it looks cute, but it
could also know that's like a k cute, but like
they're like super dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Is my daughter Ronnie says that that's her animal.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is I didn't know koalas were dangerous.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Have you seen their claws?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They can kick ass.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah. My son, my older son to me, has always
been a giraffe, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Is he very tall?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He just he just looks like a giraffe. Like his
eyes are far apart.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He's kind of tall.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He's kind of like goofy. And even though he thinks
he's like he thinks.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
He's sort of this like like athletic type of he is,
but he's like a little bit goofy. And and when
you see giraffes, they're just they're just a little silly.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, my.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Son is a sloth, my oldest he looks a sloth.
He has sloth stuff every year.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, he's once you have the stuff down.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Even how he comes to say hello, it takes like
an hour.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like like hey, Wilder, He's like.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
He you're like Jesus Christ Wilder.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's so nice to be on that time. Oh my god,
I feel like I'm like Anti Slath.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm like, so you guys are ten years apart, ten
years apart, So how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mom?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Dad?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
To share the conception story?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is it only the two of you?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's only the two of us?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay? So you are how old are you?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I am twenty eight until you're eighteen, just trying eighteen less.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Where are you in Miami as well?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh this is so the whole family is together. Okay,
so ten years sometimes and most of the times.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Where were you born?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I was born in Cuba, okay? And she was born
in the three oh five Cuba and.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Cuba, so you were born, So you were born in
How long were you there?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I was there? Kind of back and forth and uh,
I went like from Cuba to Mexico up until I
was about like seven years old, and then my mom
and I came to Miami, then came a year later,
and then they got busy and maybe like three years later,
(12:31):
and I remember like being in fifth grade and like
my mom came to like pick me up, and she
had this big belly and I was ten years old,
and it's so fun, Like the age difference is so
fun because I feel like I got to really just
witness I don't know, like her being a baby. And
I do recall like a cleaning a diaper, yeah, or
two like a diaper. I'm not gonna say I did
(12:55):
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One is you know better than for ten years old.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You know, you were ten years older than Wyatt. Oh
really yeah, and I'm saying seven years older than Wyatt. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And but I felt that way with Wyatt too, even
though it was like he was like my little doll.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I was like, oh my god, my own.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was so fun I am
now Honestly. It actually like I sometimes like I'll be
on the planet. I'll be scrolling through you know, like
when your phone does the whatever, pictures of your dog,
pictures of your export from whatever, like they.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Do like the pictures of different people.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So I'll look at, like, you know, pictures of her
starting from when she was a baby, and it's actually
aches like I'm like, I missed that time so much.
I almost feel like I like took it for granted
when she was so little because she was the cutest,
sassiest baby, Like when she was so sassy. They're so funny,
(13:48):
Like when I was talking about being opposite my mom.
I'd tell us this all the time, where basically I
was like a mute when I was little, Like I
was so serious, like I was like and Sophie was like,
she would like go loud always.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh god, wait, what's your signed again?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh you're an airy birthday? What was your birthday?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
April second?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh birthday, guys laybirthday?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, aries loud, fun, adventurous.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Laugh in your sleep, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
She was like, yeah, it's cool, it's cool. I remember
that that ten year gap. It seems like on paper
it's too far and you wouldn't develop any kind of
a relationship. But that's it couldn't be further from the truth,
at least with why myself and even Kate and why yeah,
where you're taking more of a responsibility for your sibling
rather than being just a fun sibling, Like you feel
(14:42):
like you have a bit of ownership and to protect
for that person because you are ten, and then even
when you're when you're fifteen, it's just five years, you know,
So it's a it's a fun dynamic. I remember waiting
for why it, or being excited for when he gets
older and older, where then we can start having fun.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Totally, you know what I mean, you're still waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now now, Well no, not now, it's bullshit because you're
the one who's in the Marvel universe, you know, me
so busy to hang Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's like I'm with Robert Downey Junior.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So so Cube, So Cube, is are your parents.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
One's Cuban ones Mexican?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So you would go back and forth? Okay? And and
who's who's from Cuba?
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:34):
Mom and dad is Mexican or Mexico Guerbaca.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Where is that?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So that's like maybe like an hour away from from
Mexico City.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Is it near the water or is it like central Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Heyll now near any water? Yeah, it's kind of like
where would you say, It's like it's in the middle
of a country. Yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And and you and do you still go back?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Do you still go back?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Like maybe not as often as would be fine, but
maybe like once.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
A year, maybe this summer, probably because I think.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's the way that our dad like recharges. It's like
going to Mexico. He's like I need to go to Mexico.
I need to like see my family, I need to
see my friends, I need to. I think it's also
even more than family and friends. It's like a just
like a cultural recharge.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, and what.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
About Cuba are you able to can you what is.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
What is the situation?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
What's the situation there?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Can we swear on this podcast?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's fucked it is. Yeah, there's like I mean, we
have people there that it feels like it's like about
to be a like more and more people we have,
Like there's like mass migration towards the United States because
there's no food, there's no medicine, Like there's horror stories
from people from you know, even like are not our
immediate family, but you know cousins who are like I
(16:55):
had to go to Cuba to bring my dad like
anesthesia because he, you know, had to undergo a surgical
procedure there was no anesthesia. So the situation is really
bad over there. I think it would make like Mama
and our grandparents, for example, are really sad and heartbroken
to go there because it's like it's interesting. It's like
it's like a it's like a heartbreak with the with
(17:16):
the country, with the you know. But I think for
me that's it's a lot of I can't really go there.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Do you have memories of being there when you were little?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, we both we both went, like she went.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I remember a memory from when I was like literally
like two or three, and I have no idea how
I remember it. And it's like super good.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, no, totally. The last time we went, I was
fifteen or fourteen and you were you were four, and
then I think you went back again without me with mama.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I have no idea that one. I don't remember. I
remember the one when I was like three or something.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, And what's the thing that like sticks with you
about it? Like what are the what are some of
the memories like when you think of it, Like I know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's I mean you can you can go. I don't
don't expect like you know, people are amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I think that the people make you fall in love
with it. And it's also you know, beautiful beaches and
beautiful you know what did what what did you ask?
Like what was your sort of like do.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You have any core memories from being there?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And like what ex sensorial memories? I don't know if
that happens to you, but like if I smell for example,
like sometimes I'll like walk through a you know, I
don't know, like almost like an alleyway of a restaurant,
and I'll smell like meat and it'll just like remind
me of you know what I mean, because our grandparents
like would make pork and they had a lot of
(18:56):
parties at that house. And I remember, you know, like
being for example, in the bedroom when I was like
really young and crying with my parents because I was
so overstimulated by parties, for example, and like they would
be like dancing and like getting drunk and having fun,
and I'd be like, I don't know why I was
like this, but I have like little kind of not really.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
They can get down.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
They can get down.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
They do have like family get together when they it's
crazy like I am tapped. I'm like tap. I hate it.
By ten pm, they'll like bring you know, family and
friends and they will be up. They'll be singing, you know, singing.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Carrier music blasting like pill three a M. Like just
the kids are passed out on couches.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
All of the kids are in your room.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, and I hate it's literally like it's so funny.
It's like you guys are like a bunch of kids
packed like sardines on Sophie's bed, and Sophie's just like,
I hate my life, like kids from like to to
your age, and I'm just like, bye, guys, I'm going
to sleep, like I'm like in the poolhouse.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But when they were younger, they got after.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, but they still they still honestly,
they party more than me. I feel like that. Yeah,
like they hey, they can throw back some shots. Not
my mom, my dad, my dad. My dad's like, my
dad is an expert in getting other people drunk.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
He'll have a target set on the night, like they
will be drunk.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's crazy, like he's evil.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I want to go to a party of your parents.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You totally doesn't want to drink too. It's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But now everybody's in Miami. Everybody's in, and then dad
recharges in Mexico. Everybody goes once about once a year.
Yeah yeah, I mean we still make sense.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We have family and we have cousins in Mexico, and
we still have some family in Cuba. But over the years,
more and more people make their way.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
What was your story coming to the the the US?
You know, do you do you have memory of that
at all all, like your big move.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, well, my mom, it wasn't framed to me as
a big move.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You know, immigrant parents are incredible liars, so you know,
because they kind of have to.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're just gonna go here.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It was literally like we're gonna go to disney And
I was like yeah, And then like four weeks later,
I was like, where's my cousins? So yeah, it wasn't
framed to me as like this big move. Yeah it
was Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
We're gonna go to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was like, four, this doesn't look like Disney World.
But yeah, So I remember, like there's different sensory things,
like I remember in the beginning we had like you know, uh,
like two channels like on a TV, and I'm seeing
like PBS cartoons for the first time and I was like,
this is cool. I remember like there being a little
(21:49):
bit of like a culture clash with having like I
had like a CD player and I had like that
would be it's like a Spanish singer, and I would
like bring that to school and like show it to
like my American best friend and be like, do you
know David bisbel like and she's like that, like there's
a bit of like culture. How oldish I was seven?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So did you did you say six or seven?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I would say six or seven?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
English or no? So you had to learn.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No me, no speaking me, no speaking No.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Really, so you came to America with your family thinking
you were going to Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You didn't speak English, and then.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
As we do, I guess we immediately start the adapting
and that that must have been hard. Although although we're
did it feel exciting in any way or were you
like what?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
No, I don't think exciting, but I think I've always
been like speaking of the opposite thing, Like I feel
like I'm more introverted, and I don't know, you're kind
of a mix of both, but you're more extroverted than me.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
It depends on my mood like everybody, but like usually
I'm very extroverted, but I like it, like talking and
like yapping and like.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, but I but I think for me it was
like I think I was so introverted that and who
knows if it was nature or nurture. Maybe that's why
I became so introverted that I was kind of always
more in my own world. I listened to a lot
of music. I you know, like had like little journal.
I would like write songs. I you know, I spent
like I remember a summer with my mom when she
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worked at like this architect's house or office, like for
that whole summer, I basically just like stayed under her
desk and she made like a cardboard house for me
under her desk. And that's what I was doing. Like,
I wasn't really super social, So I don't think in
that sense, I missed my I remember saying like I
miss Gabby and I missed my my cousin who I
(23:43):
was really close to. But I always was like I
had like one best friend and that's it, right, one
best friend and that's it. So I don't know. I
don't think I this.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Is fun having the parents here too.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Mama, just tell correct us, fact check us.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Do you think it was hard for me?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because I okay, she says it was really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hard for her.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Why do you think it was hard for me? We
left everything behind. It's interesting. I don't know if you
know this, but I remember when I was gone for
a year, I had like a little Disney calendar where
I would cross the exes until he came back basically,
and I was so excited. And then Papa actually came
to the United States and I didn't talk. I didn't
(24:27):
talk for like three days because I was just like,
who is he?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So just to let you know, Katie and I are
still crossing off those exes.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
One day, Papa.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Maybe he's.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Not to over up. I'm gonna say not to over
talk or whatever, but I was gonna say, like, I
think we both had experiences with that too, because like
when we had to go to X Factor, I think
you had similar experiences too, of like I feel like
our family's been scattered in different Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Know, wait, how wait how long was it?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So he was gone for like a year for a year,
for a year, right, but I wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
No face time, but your papa, Yeah, your mom just
goes That's why we got busy after.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yes, I mean that is wild.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh that must have been so hard and probably not
something that like you really could remember or uncover unless
you're like have to be in like intense therapy and.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Like actually go back into that time and really go
through certain things which.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Maybe you don't even need to necessarily, only because when
Papa came back he was exact exactly. Was just sort
of a moment of like a.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Real, real immigration story.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What about growing up though? Was it were they strict?
Were they they allow you to run free?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And how was it maybe different?
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Oh my god, well we're very That's that's where you like,
we're very different people, Like she wouldn't have wanted to
go out? Oh really love going? Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But when you wore would they let you? You know,
so you guys were older. Was it was there a
freedom or was there sort of a restriction of like no,
we live in a more of a strict house. It
sounds like your parents are like, yeah they're party.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean they're like, go.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
My parents do say a lot. It's like I was
their first teenager because they never had to deal with
like the like can I go to this party? Can
I sleep over my friend's house to nights in a row?
Can we go in like you know, like they never
had that with her as much. I was super good.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I had like two best friends and that's it. And
like our outings would be like going to church, because
like they wanted to go to church, and I was like,
please let me go to church please.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
With Sophie.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
With Sophie, my dad is like fully like he is
that man's court is all level is high with you girl,
like he is like tracks are on three six till
two am.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He's like yeah where.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yeah, but like still the same thing, same shit, But
it's fine.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He just wants to make sure you're safe. Y.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, you attribute that to you know what I mean,
you think it's just it's nature nurture. But do you
think you just came out being that kind of a person.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
You know? Or no?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's such a good question. Well, one, I started working
when I was fifteen. You did, so I also wasn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I didn't have that the teenager experience, but I honestly
don't think I would have anyway. I just don't feel
like that was really in in me that way.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So I don't know. I think it good to grow
up pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So what was your school experience like like, and it's
it's funny because you guys obviously weren't in school.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
At the same time.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
So did you guys go to the same school or
did you end up in you did some elementary school,
and what was that like for you not speaking English
as your first language and trying.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
To yeah, you know, integrate. Well.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I remember one it's funny because I feel like it's
it's pretty symbolically represented. And my first name is Carla
with the K, and so because I didn't speak English,
I always went by Camila, and basically, like my friends
from school up till now, they still call me Carla
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because I was so shy and I didn't speak English,
so I never was like, hey, I would prefer to
be called by Camila. So all the way from elementary
school to high school, my friends called me Carla and
my family called me Camila. So it was kind of
like a almost like metaphorical split identity thing because and
I didn't even like my first name. I just was
like it just kind of stuck, and I didn't really
(29:06):
have the language or the tools to be like, actually
i'd rather be called this. And I remember I don't
remember this, but my mom told me this that I guess.
They asked like do you want to be in ESL,
which is for people that don't speak English or no.
They asked do you speak English or something? And I
was just like like I just I don't know. I
think I was just like almost too shy to speak up.
(29:28):
And I'm sure that the language thing was a part
of that. So the nature nurture thing is really interesting
because I think those circumstances probably are the reason why
I am the way am. Probably the reason why I
was like, you know, so obsessed with maybe like pop
culture and musicians and music and you know, like writing
(29:51):
in my journal. Probably a lot of it was because
I felt so kind of awkward and out of place,
and you know, and I'm made fascinating.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And then what about your your elementary school experience like
completely different yeah normally.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, musical experience, like it was fun?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And then what about music for you?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Do you connect to music?
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I feel like we have a very artistic family. My
mom's an architect, but she also likes drawing, and I
feel like I got that from her. I'm really good
at sketching. I enjoy singing, and I like singing. I
had a phase with dancing too. I also wanted to
learn the electric guitar. I started playing the electric guitar.
But what really stuck with me is that I really
like acting more than like, oh really, yeah, I'd love
(30:43):
to be an actress. But I do still really like
like singing and all of that, but like, I feel
like acting in movies is more like like I don't know,
it connects more because like you can like music helps people,
but acting also helps because like you like help people
through characters.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Beautiful Boy with Timothy shallamye, that movie could help so
much people going through addiction whatever, And there's like hundreds
of movies that can help.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It is the best taste in movies.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
I love watching movies time. I literally like I have
an addiction, Like it's crazy, it's so bad. In the
past two months, I've finished five shows. Yeah, like the
album It's a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And she watch your running points? Not allowed? You're not
allowed to see a running point because I know obvious.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Adolescents.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I loved what did What was your favorite? What is
your favorite show right now? You've watched in the last In.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
The last two months, Severance literally was insane, And I
like love shows that, like I can make theories up
in my head and I'm usually right because I watched
so much shows it like I know every little hint
did you watch? I haven't, It's on my Oh, I'm
gonna watch. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I was just told that I should. Someone said we
were doing this sort of exercise of like production companies,
and like what would go in my bubble of my
production company if you were to like you know, and
and and they said Paradise And I was like, I
gotta see it.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Like I don't know, like rom comms don't do it
enough for me, unless like they break my heart like
one day on Netflix, like killed me.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I don't know that shows.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Really the movies that you love are like your sinophilia
is so like you've watched so many classics. I didn't
watch classes until I was older, Like, I feel like
your taste is.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So yeah, that's so far. Your age and music movie
is the best, aren't they there?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
So good?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Have you seen Goodwill Hunting You what?
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yes? I have?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, my son just saw that too.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
That was random.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well because bing is on this kick my middle side list.
He's got a list.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well, he's watching everything you like, he's just like he's
just like he just watched Wolf of Wall Street. He's
watching he's just watching everything. He's thirteen, be four.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Oh my god, that's such a good time to watch.
And he said to me the other days, like it
teaches you, so.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You should be advertising surprise because you get on me
about what I show my kids when Bing's watching Wolf
of Wall Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
He's also things also like but it's scar I guess.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So if it's Scorsese or a very prominent.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Filmmaker, I love being watching whatever he wants.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Now you do.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, And he said to me the other day, bingoes,
I want to be a writer and I want to
write and direct my movies.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It was just like what and he's like yeah, because
writing is like my writing is like my thing. And
I'm like, that's so.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It was like I've never heard him say anything like that.
And it's so fun, as your parents know, when you
see your kids and you all of a sudden see them.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Like click click something I'm passionate about something like they're like,
that's just like I want to.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I want to that happen. When did that happen with you?
You know what I mean? When was that moment where
it was like, oh, ship, I think this is what
I was supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
You would like sing in like we had like not
a basement but a little thing, and she'd be like
you'd be doing like karaoke by yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I think I was always singing and then like, I
can't remember a time where I wasn't singing and I
wasn't like obsessed with music. But I think it was
when I auditioned for X Factor. I was like obsessed
with like one direction, and they did an ad for
like auditioning for X Factor, and I was like, you know,
they were like regular regular kids. I'm a regular degular kid.
I'm just gonna try it. And then my life kind
(34:29):
of changed. But I can't remember a time where I
wasn't like obsessed with music. I always loved it. And
I think it's interesting with Sophie because I feel like
I was gonna say when you were talking about like
the dancing and the drawing, like something that I find
so fascinating about you is like you're so talented at
so many things, like when you had like your she
made this like band with her friends called a what
(34:50):
was it my father's wallet. It's such a sick band name, right,
they wrote, I feel.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Like Palisades the freestyle should be on Yeah, for sure, it.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Would fit perfect. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's so true the title Palisades, my father's follow it.
But I like you sent me like two songs, and
I was like, Okay, what the hell, Like these are
incredibly written songs. Then the drawings like one time like
she like drew my merch which was like, oh fuck,
it was so cool, Like the designs were so crazy.
Like it's like she's so talented at like so many
(35:27):
different different things. But I do think like you, but
I do think, like it's true what you're saying, Like
the moment where you're like, I really want to do this,
it's like so exciting, especially like you know, seeing you,
like you know, be a little a little toddler baby,
and I're like, I really want to do acting. It's
like different than just like doing different things.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You're like, Oh, it's just so interesting to watch you
guys right now, being ten years apart, honestly, because you
know you have you've had so much life experience with
what you do, and I want to actually ask about that.
As far as being fifteen going into this business, your
parents allowing you to do that because they knew that's
what you loved and you were extremely talented at at
the same time trying to protect you from this world
(36:09):
as well, and how they were able to navigate.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It was probably one of the opposite. They were probably
like out and like partying out at the bar when
she's like singing, and then she was probably like can
someone please get my parents? We have to go home.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I want to hit on that. But also just going
back to that watching your little sister, you know, growing
up and she's eighteen and sort of growing into her
talents and discovering all of these amazing things that she
can do, and then getting excited about how she's going
to I love it, implement them and which one she's
going to choose, maybe all of them. It's exciting. It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's the best because I'm like, oh, I can take
all of my I don't know whether if she wants
it or not, but just be like all of my mistakes,
all of my whatever, with the things that I've learned.
You're just kind of like go go oh. It's like
fun to be a cheerleader, especially because it honestly gets
so this sounds like so annoying, but it's like it's
(37:08):
it's more fun when it's it's it's very fun when
it's not about you. Also in a career where it's
like and why do we do single it's like so
fun to be like great, yeah, now now let's focus
on you.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
How we take it well or do you ever push back?
Is there any sort of butting of heads between you
guys being ten years.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Apart, Yeah, there's there's there's butting of heads. I mean, like,
I feel like we talked about this recently. I remember
I was like, you know, like I'm going to tell
you things that maybe you don't want to hear. But
that's me being like a good friend to you and
a good sister too.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
And also I feel like we have very different like
ways of looking at things, like again with like you're
very like let's think about this calm and rashly, and
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We have to do it right, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's because you're Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
We also we have different like views on certain things
like what like I don't know how to explain.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
It, like she thinks like I'm on TikTok like a
millennial and I'm like a millennial.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
She can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
You have to do it this way because it's too millennial.
I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Yeah, Like if I ever get like overwhelmed or like
if I need, like or if I'm nervous or something like,
she gives me what I like to call like the
Oprah pep talk, where she's just like to me, it's
very very sweet, but it's like a whole it's a
whole lot of nothing to me, Like I would rather
just like look in the mirror and just like be
like Sophia, calm funk down, and then I just walk down.
(38:38):
Then I'm fine. It's like that stresses me before that
would like literally like like I know that for her,
that's how it works for like I need to give
you a pep talk, everything's fine whatever. For me, that
like like it like makes me worse.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I want to give me I think, how do you feel.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, one, I definitely I feel like I've been doing
therapy for the past few years, so I think I
try to therapize her in a way that I think
is sneaky, but it's actually not I know it, you
know what I mean. Like I'm like I'll be like
I'll be like Kate Moss, well, you know you really
have to like persistence is really the key, like you
really just you know, you can't give up, Like even
if you're tired, like you just it's really it's not talent,
(39:22):
it's really determination. And she'll be like, shut the fuck up,
Like I know you're trying to like I know you're
trying to like sneaky in part advice. I don't know.
I do know that I do that. And then I'm like,
it's kind of like what you were saying, like you're
I think it was before we started when you're like,
let me just vent and you're like trying to maybe
fix it.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
Feel like you're doing solutions and I just yeh, to
like let it out and then I'll deal with it
on my own because I can. Like it's like when
I would go to like therapy or something, I already
know what he's going to say, and I already know
that it's a problem. I just like like, so there's
no point, you know what I mean, Like, I like,
I know that I'm the problem. I just like that's
not the.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Point because for you in relationships, Oh yeah, it's going
to be so challenging because uh men all want.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
To fix everything.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yeah, they just true.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
It's like every time and every relationship I have ever
been in when I am like this is da da
and this is yeah, and this is what's going on,
and then they always.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Want to try to fix it. I'm like, can you, yeah,
can you? This is so it's so annoying. Yeah, I
don't need I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Singing into the I agree.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But at the same time, you know, Aaron my wife,
sometimes I'm like, just listen because she's like, I'm like,
I just feel like this, but I feel like that. Well,
I mean maybe it's just because of this this, And
then I'm like, I don't I don't need that right now,
you know, we can just listen.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
You're saying, it's the opposite, like you need to be listening.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, you don't want this solution.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think men don't like when their partner is feeling
bad or sad, and I think there's a maybe a
primal trigger of some kind where it's sort of frustrating you.
I'm like, oh, God, just feel just feel okay, I
feel okay.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's true because.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
When you're feeling like ship, I don't get it together.
There's this thing and there seems to be a pattern
with with a lot of men that I know who
feel the same way. And I think it's a trigger
because when you don't feel good, I don't feel good.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's so true.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You get a hold of yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I just don't like it.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Let me feel good without you having did not feel
good to give me. Let me feel bad?
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Where is everything about that you? Like? You know, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Feeling this and this and that, and you don't want
me to fix anything. So it's like, Okay, yeah, cool, piece,
I'm gonna go play some golf.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
No you have to be like.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
I must feel bad with everything that she's said.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah you know, or you just say like yeah, you know,
but what if you want to be like, hey, do
you think you could maybe be looking at this the
wrong way? Is that such an annoying thing to say?
Because the thing is when somebody tells me that, I'm
like I'm mad, but I'm but I really I'm like, yeah,
I really am listening. It's what you said. It's very
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hubble for me. I'm like, I'm like an advice junkie, right,
you love advice, not not necessarily like advice. And also
you know, like I listened to like podcasts that are
like self healthy, Like I'm like that person, Like I'm
like I'm like Oprah, please like tell me at the
tips and I will do that every day.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
I'm listening to this thing called Wait. I have this
podcast app called Waking Up. I really like it because
love that love that I know, yeah yeah, And I
listen to these just lectures too, like and everyone's like,
what are.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You waking up? Sam, Harry? That's my Friday night.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I've been listening. I've been doing.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
You didn't put me onto Waking Up, Sam Goods.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Since the beginning that you didn't have anything to do.
I know you're listening, Sam. We know the truth about
all this.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I love I love Waking Up. I love it, and
I just like meditation is good even if you've meditated
for a long time and understand it. I did his
little intro to meditation and it was fucking great.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
You know it's did I tell you about waking Up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
No, And I and the lectures to me are something
where I could just like put that on, go for
a walk.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I need to hear it all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
And then right now I'm reading a book called Letting Go,
which you would probably love if you haven't read it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
No, this is one page just as let go, I
want to go back to this man trying to fix things,
because I would want to know how not to try
(44:02):
to fix things, how to walk the line of listening
and being attentive and at the same time not being
overbearing with trying to fix it. Meaning you come to
we're married, you come to me with a problem. I
got this, this and this, and I'm feeling this. What
am I supposed to say?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I think I feel like it's nice to say, like
I totally get that. That must be really hard.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Yeah, like you kind of have to complain, like if
you're one of her friends, like, oh this guy I work, Yeah,
he suck like you know what I mean, just like
let her ring. That's good.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That's just like a yeah, yeah, just like just straight
up just.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Like agree and be like yeah, they're terrible, like you know,
well you deserve the best, like they're terrible, like they
suck up, bloated, toh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I don't. My ayes are really big as well. This
is great because you're learning.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I want that too. I think we're similar. It's also
fun I agree with me.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Talking and like bitch, yeah exactly. My mom and I
I decided one day because it would be like Mom
would always say preface and was like, I don't mean
to complain, but I'm like, you know what, we need
to complain.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Oh my god, it feels so we're going to go.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
To lunch and we're only gonna complain the whole time.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I feels bad. Fun, we should do that.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And then we and then we like what got into
other things.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I'm like, no, no, no, we need to we're complaining
and she's like okay, and we and it's so funny
and we laughed.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
We laughed.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
That's so fun.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
So sometimes you need a complaining lunch.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
That's a fun thing.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, fun, it's good.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well I'm different than like you know, you hear this
the cliches of you know, husbands having to listen to
their wives issues with their friends and you're coming. I
love it. Whenever wife comes into the bench, she goes,
oh my god, so you'll never know what happened. Like
he puts on.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
He puts on his silk robe and his slippers and
he's like telling you, I love the gos stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, I love it, said, oh.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I can't believe she's like that, Like I love that's
really bad.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
But I like this for siblings because it's one thing
for relationships, and the truth is like relationships, the thing
that bothers me about relationships is like I don't really
want like I don't always want him to be the
person that is the person that I'm doing everything with.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Like yeah, like that's not good.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, Like like my it's like it's like you know
what Esther Perel always says.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
What it's like, you have this expectation that your partner
is supposed to be everything to you on the planet,
Like they need to be the person that your best friend.
They need the person like does everything for you properly.
They need to like cook for you. They need to like,
you know, make sure that they pambre you with something,
you know, like they have to do everything versus like
maybe the sibling dynamic needs to be more sibling.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
They need to do anything for you.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
You need to come over, but but you should listen
to me more.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What do you mean I do no?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
No, like really like I need you. I need you
more than what you get as like he he you
need to do no. No, I need to call you
and you need to just not say anything. I feel
like we do this right.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
You need to not say anything and just let me
talk about whatever I want to talk about, and then
and then let me say, Okay, what do you think.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
You're done?
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Siblings should be the sounding board. I agree with that, right,
not your partner. The partner shouldn't be a sounding board.
Your sibling should be yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And then and then after you ran and said do
you want my advice or no? And then you say
yes or no, and then we move on like that.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
It's kind of nice and they will always say no.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think it's kind of I think it's kind of.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Like a well, honestly, if you ask it like that,
I probably would say yes. It depends. Yeah, just can't
be shoved down your throat?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Do you feel like I do that all the time?
Speaker 6 (48:31):
What I feel like? I'm you? Do you? You try
and you say it out loud, but like I know
that it's coming from a place of like you're trying
to help.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah. Do you feel like I'm going to ask like
a controversial question because because Mama's here? Do you feel
like I'm better at it than Mama?
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Though?
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I'm so sorry, but like, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Saying, when you're overwhelmed, When you're overwhelmed, unfortunately you and
Mama question.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Know, it's not bad that you're asking that question. But
the thing is is that you are more of like
a ranting thing and Mama is like a comfort thing.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Can I can I tell something that happened though thirty
minutes ago? I literally was like Mama started talking about
something and she was like remember she was like, oh
bah blah, like don't like when you And then and
then I see my sister getting like like overwhelmed, and
I literally when you were in the car, I was like, no.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Stress, I know you.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
I have ears. I hear everything. I think.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I'm always like telling her like you're stressing wrap. Stop
stop telling her that.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Stop telling her you know, but you both stress me out.
It's like how you were saying that you go to
different people for like different needs to be. My mom
calms me down more, but my sister rants more.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Who would you go to with like boy issues for
like unbiased?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
I go with my mom because she's gonna tell me
if I messed up or not biased. So I go
with my sister.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, And so you like more advice with boys like
you mess up more than you don't.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
No, it's more of like like I don't know how
to explain it, like my mom's gonna like call me
out more like even if I didn't do something wrong,
you be like, but you can maturely handle it instead
of like me being able to like crash out. And
I'd like to be a teenage girl with boys.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
To be honest, I'm kind of like, Okay, I see,
I see that this is happening, but I'm just gonna
like you make your own mistakes because I feel like
with boys, you can't be advised out of boys. I
just feel like you can't, especially at that age.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Great point, at that age.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
It's like you're not gonna be like, hey, like do
you feel like this is a little toxic?
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Do you feel like my mom wants me to act
like if I'm like like twenty seven, like like mature
and whatever, like let me crash out something.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You're not gonna look at it in a healthy way
at eighteen, Like when I was, it's like, I'm like, girl,
just do it.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Let me ask a question though, being this tenure, do
you ever give her advice about boys?
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, you know, because it's interesting from a ten year
younger perspective, you know, there has to be some sort
of respect there. You listen to your sister when she goes, look,
here's what I see. I know I'm ten years younger,
but I have.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
A you might not get out with your first boyfriend.
I didn't like him and I told him a jerk,
and then my mom got mad at me, and then
I had to say draft instead. And I remember that
very vividly, and I didn't like him, and I was right.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, I think you have very intuitive senses about people.
And I think that just like everybody, you can see
other people's things. You can see, hey, you can see
other people's like when I'm like really emotional and whatever,
you can see it from a very objective way, and
we can never see it when it's your own impulses.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I know it, And sometimes it's fun just to like
not deal with it, like like you're saying, like you
kind of have to come to the realization yourself, really,
really do you have to get back.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
With that person? Ten times?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
You can't advice. I figured the word advice someone out
of a boy boy. It's like when you're set, I
hear you, but oh my.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
God, literally then you see them in person and.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
You're like, yeah, you're you're right, yeah, and you know
and you know too. It's like I think, I think
sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
I think for me with girls, it's more like and
my girlfriends, it's like when you see someone who literally
never takes not only anyone's advice, but like can't is
really like can't see it for themselves. Then there comes
a time where you're exhausted by your friend. You're like,
You've told me the same story like five thousand times.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
I know who I'm talking I love her, and she's
my karma because I was hurt.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
So but you literally like you've you've you're literally beating
your head against a wall. He's yeah, I mean I
have friends that I'm like, he's cheated on you, like
a thousand times, and you're still asking me.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
What I think. Like he's a dick. He needs to go.
You need to move on.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
You're better than this, and it doesn't matter what I say, so,
but like I can't hear it anymore. Yeah, And I've
had friends like that where I've had to be like,
I can't hear this anymore because now now I'm just
enabling you to like have someone treat you like shit.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm tired of it I'm tired of over and over again,
you know, and you just repeating it and I.
Speaker 6 (53:21):
Have I don't know, I feel like it's frustrating. It's relatable.
It's like relatable in a sense like I can't like
I came in through it. Yeah, that's the thing with me.
It's like my friends, Like I will let her complain.
There's a specific friend that I'm thinking, you know what
I'm thinking about. I let her complain and like I'll
be like yeah, and I understand, Like I have to
(53:43):
like Oprah like therapy here in a little bit, like
I understand how you're feeling, but it's wrong. And then
I have to like remind her of like yeah, you
missed the good stuff, but like remember like all of
the badget Like you just have to like I have
to listen to it just because like that was me,
and like I can't like because you made you made
her sit through all your stuff, not even her, just
like I've made people and like I feel like that's
(54:03):
my car, Like I have to, like I have to
listen to and let you rent and also because like
if I don't let her rant them, like who is
she going to ran to? Like you know, what I mean.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't know. Yeah, I ran, I ran to chat
GPT all the time, me too.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Okay, by the way, talk about somebody who is good
and awesome therapy like hearing you and then reassure you
and then be like do you want some help with that?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
And you're like.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh yeah all the time.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
You could be like you could be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
My boyfriend, yeah, just you know, got he down with
me because I said this and then this was his response,
and then I felt like this, and then I didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
And I'm trying to figure out how to like explain
to him that I feel this way and be like, wow,
that sounds like you're having a really tough time.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh my god, ready, Hi, can you act as my therapist.
Speaker 9 (55:01):
I'm having an issue with my brother Oliver. He has
incredibly low self esteem and it just feels like he's
incredibly jealous of all of the things that I do,
and I don't know how to actually express that it
hurts my feelings.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Allegedly help me.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
That's a whoop your ass.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
This is just play. This is playtime.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
She's like, is it Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Hey, thanks for sharing. Hey, thanks for sharing. I'm really
glad you reached out.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Oh that sounds painful when someone you care about it,
especially as sibling treats you in a way that feels
rooted and jealousy.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
And insecurity reassurance.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
It can leave you feeling unseen or even punished for
your success. And it's doubly hard when you're trying to
be sensitive to their feelings but feel like yours don't
get the same care. Can I ask, what are some
of the ways his jealousy shows up?
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Like does he criticize you, with draw, makes arcostic comments,
try to one up you or something else?
Speaker 3 (56:03):
And what happens inside you when he does? And then
it keeps going. But it's amazing and it's awful, it's.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Really I mean, it's pretty standard fair. I mean, it's
like psychology one one.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Right, you know, and all of it was just hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
So yes, okay, wait, we got to stop.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
We're cutting this in half, Oliver, because it's so great
and we're going to keep going. So we're gonna do
two part episode. We love you listeners, and we'll be
back here part Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
You're gonna have to stay tuned because it gets crazy
in the second half.
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling raivalr No, no, sibling hopeful.
Speaker 3 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good, Oliver.
(00:45):
I'm super excited because I say this every time.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I think.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
That's what I say every time. I'm super excited. To
realize that, I hate.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
When I you may genuinely are. I hate super excited.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
I know what.
Speaker 3 (01:01):
I'm always super excited about everything.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
It's like my super excited.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
My friend's always like you, he goes. You always say
like that's the best.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
I'm like, no, every time I hear it.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
No, I think it's best not to point out the
idiosyncrasies of people because it gets in your head.
Speaker 3 (01:19):
But I'm super excited.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well this one, actually you should be because they flew
in for us. I'm so I don't believe that, but like,
that's what I.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Was saying, which is such a weird thing. Why wouldn't
you believe that?
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Because no one flies from Miami to LA to be
on sibling Revelry. They have to have other things they're doing.
Speaker 4 (01:35):
Why do you have such a low self esteem?
Speaker 5 (01:43):
No, I just am I'm just curious. Well, that's actually
a real question that there's nothing to do with the
topic of these sisters flying in. If we wanted to
get my low self esteem, that's another three to four
podcasts to get through.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
We'll talk about that later.
Speaker 4 (01:58):
I am excited to be to our guests today. We
are here together and it's so much fun.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
I love being with the people that were interviewing and
not zooming the best. It's the best, the best.
Speaker 4 (02:10):
You guys, thank you for coming on our podcast. And Sophia,
so Fia, my best friend's name is so.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Your best friend, Sophie, one of my best friends.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
One of you said my best say.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
One, she's one of my best one of my besties.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
Well she's very little, she is.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
She's so tiny, she's so cute.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Who would you say, is your best friend? Do you
have a best friend? You can say it, they won't,
No one else will be offended.
Speaker 4 (02:51):
I think I have I think I have like a
core group of best friends. I think Jamie m Jamie.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
It's like one of is like probably at the time,
top of the.
Speaker 4 (03:00):
Pyramid here, No I would say laur Lynn great name,
laur Lynn yea alliteration Laurland Stark.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I'm very lucky because well, there's old in a friend group,
you have, yea, a hierarchy. There's a hierarchy, there has
to be for sure, you know. But I go to
there's there's certain better than others.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
There was this.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
Great book that I read that talked about friendships and
I forget okay, but it might come to me friendship.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
No.
Speaker 4 (03:30):
It was about how like what is it that that
that you value in the friendship and what is it
that they like like offer you in terms of connectivity
and love and all those things.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
And you you could do with your friendships and you
do with your.
Speaker 4 (03:47):
Family, and then you really see like who do you
go to for like what like how does this person
serve your life? It's kind of narcissistic in the sense
that it's like how do they serve you?
Speaker 1 (03:58):
But there human beings, that's how we work.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
It does sort of it does like highlight the people
that are really there for you, you know, like which
sibling is the person you call when.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Something's going on? Which friend?
Speaker 4 (04:14):
Yeah definitely okay, yeah, definitely awkward. But other than that
other than that, he does nothing for me.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
It's just like today in the car we're talking about
like he's sort of interrupted, just let me vent.
Speaker 4 (04:30):
He's like, yeah, no, no, first you were like first
you're like, I don't want this to get over. I
don't want this year. I don't want this to be a thing.
I'm like, shut up, I need to just let me
get it out.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
I don't want whatever this conversation was. I don't want
her going back to this person and blowing the ship up.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
You're a fixer, you.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Go to the fixed.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I just don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. And you know,
and he's an avoidant.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Oh my god, you look like a cinnamon roll and
you are a cinnamon roll. Yeah, well, I don't think you.
I don't actually think. I actually think you look like
he looks like he could kill you. But is a
cinnamon role. Yeah, I actually think it's more that.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
Yeah, I think that's what am I. I'm definitely cinnamon roll.
But I'm a weird, a little nutty.
Speaker 3 (05:14):
Yeah, but you would you know she's.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Right and hurt people.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Okay, yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Oh that's true.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I can go for the jugular. I get Oh, I
forgot about that white Oh yeahsh of, like, oh my god,
I don't know what the I'm about to do?
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Right, white hot heat and.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You get white hot heat, it's.
Speaker 6 (05:36):
Like you like you need to take out the venom,
Like if you're a scorpion, just like you need to
let it out.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Are you a scorpio?
Speaker 6 (05:41):
Oh no, my dad is Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:44):
Our mom's a scorpio.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, yeah, it's that tail tails. Do you guys find
Are you guys very kind of opposite in personalities? Because
we're I feel like we're very like different surface surface
level wise, we're very different.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
I think so, but we're not Like that's an interesting question.
Speaker 2 (06:02):
I think I think we are, but there's a root
that is very very similar.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Oh, I have a good way to frame this question.
Somebody was like, there's always somebody in a relationship, for example,
that's a black cat and somebody that's a golden retriever.
So it's like who's the black cat and who's the
golden Retriever? Because I feel like you're the black cat
and I'm the Golden Retriever.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
I mean, maybe I'm a golden Retriever.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I'm kind of like a Golden Retriever, like the Golden Retriever,
I kind of kind of deep down, I feel.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Like black Cat is somebody that's intrinsically more how would
you describe it, Like a little bit more like, yeah, like.
Speaker 4 (06:39):
Being is the black Cat and riders the Golden Retriever.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
I enjoy the underbelly of life. I think there's something
about it, seedy about you. Yeah, no, I do, because
when we see.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
People like a black cat in the in the back alley, that's.
Speaker 2 (06:55):
Right with with very green eyes. When when we meet people,
when we meet people, it's always about that sort of
not it's small talk, but no one really digs into
sort of who you really are. And to get to
know someone, you have to know the bolt of ship,
(07:17):
the underbelly, the pain, yeah, the addictions, the nasty ship,
because that's true is where real life sort of exists.
We put on a bit of a facade. So I'm
interested in that me too much too, And I'm interested
and indulging in that ship, which as I've gotten older,
you have to relinquish that.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
He's been sober for months, thirty days.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Congrats.
Speaker 2 (07:43):
Tomorrow, I'm going to Mexico and that's all going to
go to hell.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So but it's been great.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
You take a I needed to take a break. Yeah,
I was just drinking too much.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah yeah, no enough, fair enough. Yeah, I feel like
I realized, like its just like just makes me feel terrible.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Oh my god, you drink and you stop drinking.
Speaker 6 (08:01):
No.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
I still do like occasionally, but I honestly rarely rarely
do because I just like the next day or few days,
I would like get sick. I don't know, Oh my god,
I would get like crazy stomograms. And also like I
feel like if I'm stressed, it really triggers my acid reflux.
So I would be at a party and I'd be
like literally.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Like over So yeah, I just got like a prescription
for acid reflux because it was getting bad.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
Is that stress related for you?
Speaker 2 (08:27):
I don't know what it is. It's a disaster, beautiful disaster.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Wait, this brings me to one thing. This is a
fun thing. We did this on the set of Running Point,
which is we all like said, like, what animal are
you like? If there was an animal that you felt
like most closely connected to, what is it? And it's
really interesting to see what you think of yourself and
what others think.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
Oh, okay, okay, let's all go, let's all go.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
We could do this at the end. Okay, maybe we
do this at the end. I want to know each other.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Okay, let's do let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Because I don't even know. Do you have any idea
of what what you guys would be? Don't say it,
but I.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
I for you for myself.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
Is it personality based?
Speaker 1 (09:10):
I think it's like a It's like a like a feeling,
like what animal you see and you feel maybe emotionally connect,
you're like you gravitate towards. I have one kind of
in my mind, and then I feel like I definitely
have to get to know you guys more before I
can see what animal you guys would be. Yeah, you
know what I mean. Yeah, I know what animals she
would Actually I don't, but.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
If I think about it, anything that would exist like
in the animal kingdom, she's probably.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
In the in the felines or cat family.
Speaker 7 (09:35):
Maybe Like wow, I can actually see that, you know,
not thinking about and I don't know the name of it.
Speaker 6 (09:47):
I can see that because I want like an ugly animal.
I think ugly animals are really cute.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Yeah, And also because like it looks cute, but it
could also know that's like a k cute, but like
they're like super dangerous.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Is my daughter Ronnie says that that's her animal.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Is I didn't know koalas were dangerous.
Speaker 6 (10:07):
Have you seen their claws?
Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's so true.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
They can kick ass.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah. My son, my older son to me, has always
been a giraffe, right, yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Is he very tall?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
He just he just looks like a giraffe. Like his
eyes are far apart.
Speaker 1 (10:28):
He's kind of tall.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
He's kind of like goofy. And even though he thinks
he's like he thinks.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
He's sort of this like like athletic type of he is,
but he's like a little bit goofy. And and when
you see giraffes, they're just they're just a little silly.
Speaker 6 (10:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, my.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Son is a sloth, my oldest he looks a sloth.
He has sloth stuff every year.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Okay, he's once you have the stuff down.
Speaker 3 (11:00):
Even how he comes to say hello, it takes like
an hour.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
Like like hey, Wilder, He's like.
Speaker 4 (11:08):
He you're like Jesus Christ Wilder.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
It's so nice to be on that time. Oh my god,
I feel like I'm like Anti Slath.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
I'm like, so you guys are ten years apart, ten
years apart, So how did that happen?
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Mom?
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Dad?
Speaker 1 (11:28):
To share the conception story?
Speaker 6 (11:30):
Is it?
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Is it only the two of you?
Speaker 1 (11:33):
It's only the two of us?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Okay? So you are how old are you?
Speaker 1 (11:37):
I am twenty eight until you're eighteen, just trying eighteen less.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Where are you in Miami as well?
Speaker 4 (11:47):
Oh this is so the whole family is together. Okay,
so ten years sometimes and most of the times.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Where were you born?
Speaker 1 (11:54):
I was born in Cuba, okay? And she was born
in the three oh five Cuba and.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Cuba, so you were born, So you were born in
How long were you there?
Speaker 1 (12:11):
So I was there? Kind of back and forth and uh,
I went like from Cuba to Mexico up until I
was about like seven years old, and then my mom
and I came to Miami, then came a year later,
and then they got busy and maybe like three years later,
(12:31):
and I remember like being in fifth grade and like
my mom came to like pick me up, and she
had this big belly and I was ten years old,
and it's so fun, Like the age difference is so
fun because I feel like I got to really just
witness I don't know, like her being a baby. And
I do recall like a cleaning a diaper, yeah, or
two like a diaper. I'm not gonna say I did
(12:55):
it all the time.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
One is you know better than for ten years old.
Speaker 3 (12:59):
You know, you were ten years older than Wyatt. Oh
really yeah, and I'm saying seven years older than Wyatt. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (13:04):
And but I felt that way with Wyatt too, even
though it was like he was like my little doll.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Yeah, I was like, oh my god, my own.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
Oh my gosh. Yeah, it was so fun I am
now Honestly. It actually like I sometimes like I'll be
on the planet. I'll be scrolling through you know, like
when your phone does the whatever, pictures of your dog,
pictures of your export from whatever, like they.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Do like the pictures of different people.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So I'll look at, like, you know, pictures of her
starting from when she was a baby, and it's actually
aches like I'm like, I missed that time so much.
I almost feel like I like took it for granted
when she was so little because she was the cutest,
sassiest baby, Like when she was so sassy. They're so funny,
(13:48):
Like when I was talking about being opposite my mom.
I'd tell us this all the time, where basically I
was like a mute when I was little, Like I
was so serious, like I was like and Sophie was like,
she would like go loud always.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Oh god, wait, what's your signed again?
Speaker 1 (14:04):
Oh you're an airy birthday? What was your birthday?
Speaker 6 (14:09):
April second?
Speaker 1 (14:10):
Oh birthday, guys laybirthday?
Speaker 3 (14:13):
Yeah, aries loud, fun, adventurous.
Speaker 6 (14:18):
Laugh in your sleep, you know.
Speaker 2 (14:20):
She was like, yeah, it's cool, it's cool. I remember
that that ten year gap. It seems like on paper
it's too far and you wouldn't develop any kind of
a relationship. But that's it couldn't be further from the truth,
at least with why myself and even Kate and why yeah,
where you're taking more of a responsibility for your sibling
rather than being just a fun sibling, Like you feel
(14:42):
like you have a bit of ownership and to protect
for that person because you are ten, and then even
when you're when you're fifteen, it's just five years, you know,
So it's a it's a fun dynamic. I remember waiting
for why it, or being excited for when he gets
older and older, where then we can start having fun.
Speaker 3 (15:00):
Totally, you know what I mean, you're still waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Now now, Well no, not now, it's bullshit because you're
the one who's in the Marvel universe, you know, me
so busy to hang Yeah yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
It's like I'm with Robert Downey Junior.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
That's right.
Speaker 4 (15:22):
So so Cube, So Cube, is are your parents.
Speaker 3 (15:26):
One's Cuban ones Mexican?
Speaker 6 (15:28):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:29):
So you would go back and forth? Okay? And and
who's who's from Cuba?
Speaker 6 (15:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (15:34):
Mom and dad is Mexican or Mexico Guerbaca.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
Where is that?
Speaker 1 (15:40):
So that's like maybe like an hour away from from
Mexico City.
Speaker 3 (15:44):
Is it near the water or is it like central Oh?
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Heyll now near any water? Yeah, it's kind of like
where would you say, It's like it's in the middle
of a country. Yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah?
Speaker 3 (15:56):
And and you and do you still go back?
Speaker 6 (15:58):
Do you still go back?
Speaker 1 (15:59):
Like maybe not as often as would be fine, but
maybe like once.
Speaker 6 (16:04):
A year, maybe this summer, probably because I think.
Speaker 1 (16:06):
That's the way that our dad like recharges. It's like
going to Mexico. He's like I need to go to Mexico.
I need to like see my family, I need to
see my friends, I need to. I think it's also
even more than family and friends. It's like a just
like a cultural recharge.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Yeah, and what.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
About Cuba are you able to can you what is.
Speaker 6 (16:27):
What is the situation?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
What's the situation there?
Speaker 6 (16:30):
Now?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Can we swear on this podcast?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:32):
It's fucked it is. Yeah, there's like I mean, we
have people there that it feels like it's like about
to be a like more and more people we have,
Like there's like mass migration towards the United States because
there's no food, there's no medicine, Like there's horror stories
from people from you know, even like are not our
immediate family, but you know cousins who are like I
(16:55):
had to go to Cuba to bring my dad like
anesthesia because he, you know, had to undergo a surgical
procedure there was no anesthesia. So the situation is really
bad over there. I think it would make like Mama
and our grandparents, for example, are really sad and heartbroken
to go there because it's like it's interesting. It's like
it's like a it's like a heartbreak with the with
(17:16):
the country, with the you know. But I think for
me that's it's a lot of I can't really go there.
Speaker 3 (17:32):
Do you have memories of being there when you were little?
Speaker 1 (17:37):
Well, we both we both went, like she went.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
I remember a memory from when I was like literally
like two or three, and I have no idea how
I remember it. And it's like super good.
Speaker 1 (17:47):
Yeah, no, totally. The last time we went, I was
fifteen or fourteen and you were you were four, and
then I think you went back again without me with mama.
Speaker 6 (17:56):
I have no idea that one. I don't remember. I
remember the one when I was like three or something.
Speaker 1 (18:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:01):
Yeah, And what's the thing that like sticks with you
about it? Like what are the what are some of
the memories like when you think of it, Like I know.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
It's I mean you can you can go. I don't
don't expect like you know, people are amazing.
Speaker 3 (18:19):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I think that the people make you fall in love
with it. And it's also you know, beautiful beaches and
beautiful you know what did what what did you ask?
Like what was your sort of like do.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
You have any core memories from being there?
Speaker 1 (18:35):
And like what ex sensorial memories? I don't know if
that happens to you, but like if I smell for example,
like sometimes I'll like walk through a you know, I
don't know, like almost like an alleyway of a restaurant,
and I'll smell like meat and it'll just like remind
me of you know what I mean, because our grandparents
like would make pork and they had a lot of
(18:56):
parties at that house. And I remember, you know, like
being for example, in the bedroom when I was like
really young and crying with my parents because I was
so overstimulated by parties, for example, and like they would
be like dancing and like getting drunk and having fun,
and I'd be like, I don't know why I was
like this, but I have like little kind of not really.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
They can get down.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
They can get down.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
They do have like family get together when they it's
crazy like I am tapped. I'm like tap. I hate it.
By ten pm, they'll like bring you know, family and
friends and they will be up. They'll be singing, you know, singing.
Speaker 6 (19:38):
Carrier music blasting like pill three a M. Like just
the kids are passed out on couches.
Speaker 3 (19:45):
All of the kids are in your room.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, and I hate it's literally like it's so funny.
It's like you guys are like a bunch of kids
packed like sardines on Sophie's bed, and Sophie's just like,
I hate my life, like kids from like to to
your age, and I'm just like, bye, guys, I'm going
to sleep, like I'm like in the poolhouse.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
But when they were younger, they got after.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah, but they still they still honestly,
they party more than me. I feel like that. Yeah,
like they hey, they can throw back some shots. Not
my mom, my dad, my dad. My dad's like, my
dad is an expert in getting other people drunk.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
He'll have a target set on the night, like they
will be drunk.
Speaker 1 (20:29):
It's crazy, like he's evil.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
I want to go to a party of your parents.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You totally doesn't want to drink too. It's hilarious.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
But now everybody's in Miami. Everybody's in, and then dad
recharges in Mexico. Everybody goes once about once a year.
Yeah yeah, I mean we still make sense.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
We have family and we have cousins in Mexico, and
we still have some family in Cuba. But over the years,
more and more people make their way.
Speaker 4 (20:54):
What was your story coming to the the the US?
You know, do you do you have memory of that
at all all, like your big move.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Yeah, well, my mom, it wasn't framed to me as
a big move.
Speaker 3 (21:05):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:06):
You know, immigrant parents are incredible liars, so you know,
because they kind of have to.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
We're just gonna go here.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
Oh no.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
It was literally like we're gonna go to disney And
I was like yeah, And then like four weeks later,
I was like, where's my cousins? So yeah, it wasn't
framed to me as like this big move. Yeah it
was Disneyland.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
We're gonna go to Disney World.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
I was like, four, this doesn't look like Disney World.
But yeah, So I remember, like there's different sensory things,
like I remember in the beginning we had like you know, uh,
like two channels like on a TV, and I'm seeing
like PBS cartoons for the first time and I was like,
this is cool. I remember like there being a little
(21:49):
bit of like a culture clash with having like I
had like a CD player and I had like that
would be it's like a Spanish singer, and I would
like bring that to school and like show it to
like my American best friend and be like, do you
know David bisbel like and she's like that, like there's
a bit of like culture. How oldish I was seven?
Speaker 2 (22:11):
So did you did you say six or seven?
Speaker 1 (22:13):
I would say six or seven?
Speaker 2 (22:14):
English or no? So you had to learn.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
No me, no speaking me, no speaking No.
Speaker 4 (22:20):
Really, so you came to America with your family thinking
you were going to Disneyland.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
You didn't speak English, and then.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
As we do, I guess we immediately start the adapting
and that that must have been hard. Although although we're
did it feel exciting in any way or were you
like what?
Speaker 1 (22:43):
No, I don't think exciting, but I think I've always
been like speaking of the opposite thing, Like I feel
like I'm more introverted, and I don't know, you're kind
of a mix of both, but you're more extroverted than me.
Speaker 6 (22:54):
It depends on my mood like everybody, but like usually
I'm very extroverted, but I like it, like talking and
like yapping and like.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Yeah, but I but I think for me it was
like I think I was so introverted that and who
knows if it was nature or nurture. Maybe that's why
I became so introverted that I was kind of always
more in my own world. I listened to a lot
of music. I you know, like had like little journal.
I would like write songs. I you know, I spent
like I remember a summer with my mom when she
(23:23):
worked at like this architect's house or office, like for
that whole summer, I basically just like stayed under her
desk and she made like a cardboard house for me
under her desk. And that's what I was doing. Like,
I wasn't really super social, So I don't think in
that sense, I missed my I remember saying like I
miss Gabby and I missed my my cousin who I
(23:43):
was really close to. But I always was like I
had like one best friend and that's it, right, one
best friend and that's it. So I don't know. I
don't think I this.
Speaker 2 (23:53):
Is fun having the parents here too.
Speaker 1 (23:55):
Mama, just tell correct us, fact check us.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
Do you think it was hard for me?
Speaker 1 (24:00):
Because I okay, she says it was really hard.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Hard for her.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Why do you think it was hard for me? We
left everything behind. It's interesting. I don't know if you
know this, but I remember when I was gone for
a year, I had like a little Disney calendar where
I would cross the exes until he came back basically,
and I was so excited. And then Papa actually came
to the United States and I didn't talk. I didn't
(24:27):
talk for like three days because I was just like,
who is he?
Speaker 2 (24:31):
So just to let you know, Katie and I are
still crossing off those exes.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
One day, Papa.
Speaker 6 (24:45):
Maybe he's.
Speaker 1 (24:50):
Not to over up. I'm gonna say not to over
talk or whatever, but I was gonna say, like, I
think we both had experiences with that too, because like
when we had to go to X Factor, I think
you had similar experiences too, of like I feel like
our family's been scattered in different Yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (25:10):
Know, wait, how wait how long was it?
Speaker 1 (25:14):
So he was gone for like a year for a year,
for a year, right, but I wasn't there.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Wow, that's.
Speaker 4 (25:23):
No face time, but your papa, Yeah, your mom just
goes That's why we got busy after.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Yes, I mean that is wild.
Speaker 4 (25:38):
Oh that must have been so hard and probably not
something that like you really could remember or uncover unless
you're like have to be in like intense therapy and.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Like actually go back into that time and really go
through certain things which.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
Maybe you don't even need to necessarily, only because when
Papa came back he was exact exactly. Was just sort
of a moment of like a.
Speaker 3 (26:03):
Real, real immigration story.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
What about growing up though? Was it were they strict?
Were they they allow you to run free?
Speaker 6 (26:12):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:13):
And how was it maybe different?
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Oh my god, well we're very That's that's where you like,
we're very different people, Like she wouldn't have wanted to
go out? Oh really love going? Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
But when you wore would they let you? You know,
so you guys were older. Was it was there a
freedom or was there sort of a restriction of like no,
we live in a more of a strict house. It
sounds like your parents are like, yeah they're party.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
Yeah, I mean they're like, go.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
My parents do say a lot. It's like I was
their first teenager because they never had to deal with
like the like can I go to this party? Can
I sleep over my friend's house to nights in a row?
Can we go in like you know, like they never
had that with her as much. I was super good.
Speaker 1 (26:56):
I had like two best friends and that's it. And
like our outings would be like going to church, because
like they wanted to go to church, and I was like,
please let me go to church please.
Speaker 6 (27:06):
With Sophie.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
With Sophie, my dad is like fully like he is
that man's court is all level is high with you girl,
like he is like tracks are on three six till
two am.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
He's like yeah where.
Speaker 6 (27:22):
Yeah, but like still the same thing, same shit, But
it's fine.
Speaker 3 (27:28):
He just wants to make sure you're safe. Y.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
Yeah, you attribute that to you know what I mean,
you think it's just it's nature nurture. But do you
think you just came out being that kind of a person.
Speaker 6 (27:38):
You know? Or no?
Speaker 1 (27:39):
It's such a good question. Well, one, I started working
when I was fifteen. You did, so I also wasn't.
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
I don't.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
I didn't have that the teenager experience, but I honestly
don't think I would have anyway. I just don't feel
like that was really in in me that way.
Speaker 2 (27:56):
So I don't know. I think it good to grow
up pretty quickly.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
Yeah, totally.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
So what was your school experience like like, and it's
it's funny because you guys obviously weren't in school.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
At the same time.
Speaker 8 (28:07):
So did you guys go to the same school or
did you end up in you did some elementary school,
and what was that like for you not speaking English
as your first language and trying.
Speaker 3 (28:21):
To yeah, you know, integrate. Well.
Speaker 1 (28:25):
I remember one it's funny because I feel like it's
it's pretty symbolically represented. And my first name is Carla
with the K, and so because I didn't speak English,
I always went by Camila, and basically, like my friends
from school up till now, they still call me Carla
(28:46):
because I was so shy and I didn't speak English,
so I never was like, hey, I would prefer to
be called by Camila. So all the way from elementary
school to high school, my friends called me Carla and
my family called me Camila. So it was kind of
like a almost like metaphorical split identity thing because and
I didn't even like my first name. I just was
like it just kind of stuck, and I didn't really
(29:06):
have the language or the tools to be like, actually
i'd rather be called this. And I remember I don't
remember this, but my mom told me this that I guess.
They asked like do you want to be in ESL,
which is for people that don't speak English or no.
They asked do you speak English or something? And I
was just like like I just I don't know. I
think I was just like almost too shy to speak up.
(29:28):
And I'm sure that the language thing was a part
of that. So the nature nurture thing is really interesting
because I think those circumstances probably are the reason why
I am the way am. Probably the reason why I
was like, you know, so obsessed with maybe like pop
culture and musicians and music and you know, like writing
(29:51):
in my journal. Probably a lot of it was because
I felt so kind of awkward and out of place,
and you know, and I'm made fascinating.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
And then what about your your elementary school experience like
completely different yeah normally.
Speaker 6 (30:14):
Yeah, musical experience, like it was fun?
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And then what about music for you?
Speaker 6 (30:19):
Are you?
Speaker 3 (30:19):
Do you connect to music?
Speaker 6 (30:21):
I feel like we have a very artistic family. My
mom's an architect, but she also likes drawing, and I
feel like I got that from her. I'm really good
at sketching. I enjoy singing, and I like singing. I
had a phase with dancing too. I also wanted to
learn the electric guitar. I started playing the electric guitar.
But what really stuck with me is that I really
like acting more than like, oh really, yeah, I'd love
(30:43):
to be an actress. But I do still really like
like singing and all of that, but like, I feel
like acting in movies is more like like I don't know,
it connects more because like you can like music helps people,
but acting also helps because like you like help people
through characters.
Speaker 3 (30:58):
Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (31:00):
Beautiful Boy with Timothy shallamye, that movie could help so
much people going through addiction whatever, And there's like hundreds
of movies that can help.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
It is the best taste in movies.
Speaker 6 (31:07):
I love watching movies time. I literally like I have
an addiction, Like it's crazy, it's so bad. In the
past two months, I've finished five shows. Yeah, like the
album It's a problem.
Speaker 3 (31:18):
And she watch your running points? Not allowed? You're not
allowed to see a running point because I know obvious.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
Adolescents.
Speaker 3 (31:26):
I loved what did What was your favorite? What is
your favorite show right now? You've watched in the last In.
Speaker 6 (31:33):
The last two months, Severance literally was insane, And I
like love shows that, like I can make theories up
in my head and I'm usually right because I watched
so much shows it like I know every little hint
did you watch? I haven't, It's on my Oh, I'm
gonna watch. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:53):
I was just told that I should. Someone said we
were doing this sort of exercise of like production companies,
and like what would go in my bubble of my
production company if you were to like you know, and
and and they said Paradise And I was like, I
gotta see it.
Speaker 6 (32:09):
Like I don't know, like rom comms don't do it
enough for me, unless like they break my heart like
one day on Netflix, like killed me.
Speaker 3 (32:16):
I don't know that shows.
Speaker 1 (32:17):
Really the movies that you love are like your sinophilia
is so like you've watched so many classics. I didn't
watch classes until I was older, Like, I feel like
your taste is.
Speaker 3 (32:27):
So yeah, that's so far. Your age and music movie
is the best, aren't they there?
Speaker 6 (32:33):
So good?
Speaker 3 (32:34):
Have you seen Goodwill Hunting You what?
Speaker 6 (32:36):
Yes? I have?
Speaker 3 (32:36):
Yeah, my son just saw that too.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
That was random.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Well because bing is on this kick my middle side list.
He's got a list.
Speaker 4 (32:45):
Well, he's watching everything you like, he's just like he's
just like he just watched Wolf of Wall Street. He's
watching he's just watching everything. He's thirteen, be four.
Speaker 6 (32:58):
Oh my god, that's such a good time to watch.
And he said to me the other days, like it
teaches you, so.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
You should be advertising surprise because you get on me
about what I show my kids when Bing's watching Wolf
of Wall Yeah, but.
Speaker 3 (33:14):
He's also things also like but it's scar I guess.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
So if it's Scorsese or a very prominent.
Speaker 3 (33:21):
Filmmaker, I love being watching whatever he wants.
Speaker 6 (33:23):
Now you do.
Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, And he said to me the other day, bingoes,
I want to be a writer and I want to
write and direct my movies.
Speaker 3 (33:31):
It was just like what and he's like yeah, because
writing is like my writing is like my thing. And
I'm like, that's so.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
It was like I've never heard him say anything like that.
And it's so fun, as your parents know, when you
see your kids and you all of a sudden see them.
Speaker 1 (33:47):
Like click click something I'm passionate about something like they're like,
that's just like I want to.
Speaker 2 (33:54):
I want to that happen. When did that happen with you?
You know what I mean? When was that moment where
it was like, oh, ship, I think this is what
I was supposed to do.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
You would like sing in like we had like not
a basement but a little thing, and she'd be like
you'd be doing like karaoke by yourself.
Speaker 1 (34:08):
I think I was always singing and then like, I
can't remember a time where I wasn't singing and I
wasn't like obsessed with music. But I think it was
when I auditioned for X Factor. I was like obsessed
with like one direction, and they did an ad for
like auditioning for X Factor, and I was like, you know,
they were like regular regular kids. I'm a regular degular kid.
I'm just gonna try it. And then my life kind
(34:29):
of changed. But I can't remember a time where I
wasn't like obsessed with music. I always loved it. And
I think it's interesting with Sophie because I feel like
I was gonna say when you were talking about like
the dancing and the drawing, like something that I find
so fascinating about you is like you're so talented at
so many things, like when you had like your she
made this like band with her friends called a what
(34:50):
was it my father's wallet. It's such a sick band name, right,
they wrote, I feel.
Speaker 2 (34:57):
Like Palisades the freestyle should be on Yeah, for sure, it.
Speaker 6 (35:02):
Would fit perfect. It's so true.
Speaker 1 (35:05):
It's so true the title Palisades, my father's follow it.
But I like you sent me like two songs, and
I was like, Okay, what the hell, Like these are
incredibly written songs. Then the drawings like one time like
she like drew my merch which was like, oh fuck,
it was so cool, Like the designs were so crazy.
Like it's like she's so talented at like so many
(35:27):
different different things. But I do think like you, but
I do think, like it's true what you're saying, Like
the moment where you're like, I really want to do this,
it's like so exciting, especially like you know, seeing you,
like you know, be a little a little toddler baby,
and I're like, I really want to do acting. It's
like different than just like doing different things.
Speaker 2 (35:46):
You're like, Oh, it's just so interesting to watch you
guys right now, being ten years apart, honestly, because you
know you have you've had so much life experience with
what you do, and I want to actually ask about that.
As far as being fifteen going into this business, your
parents allowing you to do that because they knew that's
what you loved and you were extremely talented at at
the same time trying to protect you from this world
(36:09):
as well, and how they were able to navigate.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
It was probably one of the opposite. They were probably
like out and like partying out at the bar when
she's like singing, and then she was probably like can
someone please get my parents? We have to go home.
Speaker 2 (36:25):
I want to hit on that. But also just going
back to that watching your little sister, you know, growing
up and she's eighteen and sort of growing into her
talents and discovering all of these amazing things that she
can do, and then getting excited about how she's going
to I love it, implement them and which one she's
going to choose, maybe all of them. It's exciting. It's exciting.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
It's the best because I'm like, oh, I can take
all of my I don't know whether if she wants
it or not, but just be like all of my mistakes,
all of my whatever, with the things that I've learned.
You're just kind of like go go oh. It's like
fun to be a cheerleader, especially because it honestly gets
so this sounds like so annoying, but it's like it's
(37:08):
it's more fun when it's it's it's very fun when
it's not about you. Also in a career where it's
like and why do we do single it's like so
fun to be like great, yeah, now now let's focus
on you.
Speaker 2 (37:21):
How we take it well or do you ever push back?
Is there any sort of butting of heads between you
guys being ten years.
Speaker 1 (37:29):
Apart, Yeah, there's there's there's butting of heads. I mean, like,
I feel like we talked about this recently. I remember
I was like, you know, like I'm going to tell
you things that maybe you don't want to hear. But
that's me being like a good friend to you and
a good sister too.
Speaker 6 (37:43):
And also I feel like we have very different like
ways of looking at things, like again with like you're
very like let's think about this calm and rashly, and
I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
We have to do it right, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
that's because you're Yeah.
Speaker 6 (37:56):
We also we have different like views on certain things
like what like I don't know how to explain.
Speaker 1 (38:03):
It, like she thinks like I'm on TikTok like a
millennial and I'm like a millennial.
Speaker 6 (38:09):
She can't be doing that.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
You have to do it this way because it's too millennial.
I'm like, I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
Yeah, Like if I ever get like overwhelmed or like
if I need, like or if I'm nervous or something like,
she gives me what I like to call like the
Oprah pep talk, where she's just like to me, it's
very very sweet, but it's like a whole it's a
whole lot of nothing to me, Like I would rather
just like look in the mirror and just like be
like Sophia, calm funk down, and then I just walk down.
(38:38):
Then I'm fine. It's like that stresses me before that
would like literally like like I know that for her,
that's how it works for like I need to give
you a pep talk, everything's fine whatever. For me, that
like like it like makes me worse.
Speaker 2 (38:50):
I want to give me I think, how do you feel.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (39:00):
Well, one, I definitely I feel like I've been doing
therapy for the past few years, so I think I
try to therapize her in a way that I think
is sneaky, but it's actually not I know it, you
know what I mean. Like I'm like I'll be like
I'll be like Kate Moss, well, you know you really
have to like persistence is really the key, like you
really just you know, you can't give up, Like even
if you're tired, like you just it's really it's not talent,
(39:22):
it's really determination. And she'll be like, shut the fuck up,
Like I know you're trying to like I know you're
trying to like sneaky in part advice. I don't know.
I do know that I do that. And then I'm like,
it's kind of like what you were saying, like you're
I think it was before we started when you're like,
let me just vent and you're like trying to maybe
fix it.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
Feel like you're doing solutions and I just yeh, to
like let it out and then I'll deal with it
on my own because I can. Like it's like when
I would go to like therapy or something, I already
know what he's going to say, and I already know
that it's a problem. I just like like, so there's
no point, you know what I mean, Like, I like,
I know that I'm the problem. I just like that's
not the.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
Point because for you in relationships, Oh yeah, it's going
to be so challenging because uh men all want.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
To fix everything.
Speaker 6 (40:09):
Yeah, they just true.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
It's like every time and every relationship I have ever
been in when I am like this is da da
and this is yeah, and this is what's going on,
and then they always.
Speaker 3 (40:21):
Want to try to fix it. I'm like, can you, yeah,
can you? This is so it's so annoying. Yeah, I
don't need I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 1 (40:29):
I'm going to fix it.
Speaker 6 (40:31):
Singing into the I agree.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
But at the same time, you know, Aaron my wife,
sometimes I'm like, just listen because she's like, I'm like,
I just feel like this, but I feel like that. Well,
I mean maybe it's just because of this this, And
then I'm like, I don't I don't need that right now,
you know, we can just listen.
Speaker 4 (40:48):
You're saying, it's the opposite, like you need to be listening.
Oh okay, yeah, yeah, you don't want this solution.
Speaker 2 (40:53):
I think men don't like when their partner is feeling
bad or sad, and I think there's a maybe a
primal trigger of some kind where it's sort of frustrating you.
I'm like, oh, God, just feel just feel okay, I
feel okay.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
It's true because.
Speaker 2 (41:14):
When you're feeling like ship, I don't get it together.
There's this thing and there seems to be a pattern
with with a lot of men that I know who
feel the same way. And I think it's a trigger
because when you don't feel good, I don't feel good.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
It's so true.
Speaker 3 (41:32):
You get a hold of yourself.
Speaker 2 (41:35):
I just don't like it.
Speaker 3 (41:38):
Let me feel good without you having did not feel
good to give me. Let me feel bad?
Speaker 6 (41:43):
Where is everything about that you? Like? You know, I'm just.
Speaker 2 (41:49):
Feeling this and this and that, and you don't want
me to fix anything. So it's like, Okay, yeah, cool, piece,
I'm gonna go play some golf.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
No you have to be like.
Speaker 6 (41:58):
I must feel bad with everything that she's said.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah you know, or you just say like yeah, you know,
but what if you want to be like, hey, do
you think you could maybe be looking at this the
wrong way? Is that such an annoying thing to say?
Because the thing is when somebody tells me that, I'm
like I'm mad, but I'm but I really I'm like, yeah,
I really am listening. It's what you said. It's very
(42:21):
hubble for me. I'm like, I'm like an advice junkie, right,
you love advice, not not necessarily like advice. And also
you know, like I listened to like podcasts that are
like self healthy, Like I'm like that person, Like I'm
like I'm like Oprah, please like tell me at the
tips and I will do that every day.
Speaker 4 (42:38):
I'm listening to this thing called Wait. I have this
podcast app called Waking Up. I really like it because
love that love that I know, yeah yeah, And I
listen to these just lectures too, like and everyone's like,
what are.
Speaker 1 (42:50):
You waking up? Sam, Harry? That's my Friday night.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
I've been listening. I've been doing.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
You didn't put me onto Waking Up, Sam Goods.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
Since the beginning that you didn't have anything to do.
I know you're listening, Sam. We know the truth about
all this.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (43:08):
I love I love Waking Up. I love it, and
I just like meditation is good even if you've meditated
for a long time and understand it. I did his
little intro to meditation and it was fucking great.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
You know it's did I tell you about waking Up? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (43:26):
No, And I and the lectures to me are something
where I could just like put that on, go for
a walk.
Speaker 3 (43:33):
I need to hear it all the time, all the time.
Speaker 4 (43:35):
And then right now I'm reading a book called Letting Go,
which you would probably love if you haven't read it.
Speaker 2 (43:39):
No, this is one page just as let go, I
want to go back to this man trying to fix things,
because I would want to know how not to try
(44:02):
to fix things, how to walk the line of listening
and being attentive and at the same time not being
overbearing with trying to fix it. Meaning you come to
we're married, you come to me with a problem. I
got this, this and this, and I'm feeling this. What
am I supposed to say?
Speaker 1 (44:20):
I think I feel like it's nice to say, like
I totally get that. That must be really hard.
Speaker 6 (44:26):
Yeah, like you kind of have to complain, like if
you're one of her friends, like, oh this guy I work, Yeah,
he suck like you know what I mean, just like
let her ring. That's good.
Speaker 3 (44:33):
That's just like a yeah, yeah, just like just straight
up just.
Speaker 6 (44:36):
Like agree and be like yeah, they're terrible, like you know,
well you deserve the best, like they're terrible, like they
suck up, bloated, toh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (44:56):
I don't. My ayes are really big as well. This
is great because you're learning.
Speaker 3 (45:09):
I want that too. I think we're similar. It's also
fun I agree with me.
Speaker 4 (45:14):
Talking and like bitch, yeah exactly. My mom and I
I decided one day because it would be like Mom
would always say preface and was like, I don't mean
to complain, but I'm like, you know what, we need
to complain.
Speaker 1 (45:29):
Oh my god, it feels so we're going to go.
Speaker 3 (45:31):
To lunch and we're only gonna complain the whole time.
Speaker 1 (45:35):
I feels bad. Fun, we should do that.
Speaker 3 (45:38):
And then we and then we like what got into
other things.
Speaker 4 (45:43):
I'm like, no, no, no, we need to we're complaining
and she's like okay, and we and it's so funny
and we laughed.
Speaker 3 (45:49):
We laughed.
Speaker 1 (45:50):
That's so fun.
Speaker 3 (45:52):
So sometimes you need a complaining lunch.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
That's a fun thing.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Yeah, fun, it's good.
Speaker 2 (45:57):
Well I'm different than like you know, you hear this
the cliches of you know, husbands having to listen to
their wives issues with their friends and you're coming. I
love it. Whenever wife comes into the bench, she goes,
oh my god, so you'll never know what happened. Like
he puts on.
Speaker 4 (46:20):
He puts on his silk robe and his slippers and
he's like telling you, I love the gos stuff.
Speaker 1 (46:26):
Yeah, I love it, said, oh.
Speaker 2 (46:28):
I can't believe she's like that, Like I love that's
really bad.
Speaker 4 (46:33):
But I like this for siblings because it's one thing
for relationships, and the truth is like relationships, the thing
that bothers me about relationships is like I don't really
want like I don't always want him to be the
person that is the person that I'm doing everything with.
Speaker 1 (46:49):
Like yeah, like that's not good.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
Yeah, Like like my it's like it's like you know
what Esther Perel always says.
Speaker 4 (46:56):
What it's like, you have this expectation that your partner
is supposed to be everything to you on the planet,
Like they need to be the person that your best friend.
They need the person like does everything for you properly.
They need to like cook for you. They need to like,
you know, make sure that they pambre you with something,
you know, like they have to do everything versus like
maybe the sibling dynamic needs to be more sibling.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
They need to do anything for you.
Speaker 3 (47:21):
You need to come over, but but you should listen
to me more.
Speaker 2 (47:27):
What do you mean I do no?
Speaker 3 (47:28):
No, like really like I need you. I need you
more than what you get as like he he you
need to do no. No, I need to call you
and you need to just not say anything. I feel
like we do this right.
Speaker 4 (47:45):
You need to not say anything and just let me
talk about whatever I want to talk about, and then
and then let me say, Okay, what do you think.
Speaker 6 (47:59):
You're done?
Speaker 3 (48:00):
Siblings should be the sounding board. I agree with that, right,
not your partner. The partner shouldn't be a sounding board.
Your sibling should be yourself.
Speaker 2 (48:07):
And then and then after you ran and said do
you want my advice or no? And then you say
yes or no, and then we move on like that.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
It's kind of nice and they will always say no.
Speaker 3 (48:17):
I think it's kind of I think it's kind of.
Speaker 6 (48:21):
Like a well, honestly, if you ask it like that,
I probably would say yes. It depends. Yeah, just can't
be shoved down your throat?
Speaker 1 (48:29):
Do you feel like I do that all the time?
Speaker 6 (48:31):
What I feel like? I'm you? Do you? You try
and you say it out loud, but like I know
that it's coming from a place of like you're trying
to help.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Yeah. Do you feel like I'm going to ask like
a controversial question because because Mama's here? Do you feel
like I'm better at it than Mama?
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Though?
Speaker 6 (48:49):
I'm so sorry, but like, no, I'm.
Speaker 1 (48:52):
Saying, when you're overwhelmed, When you're overwhelmed, unfortunately you and
Mama question.
Speaker 6 (49:00):
Know, it's not bad that you're asking that question. But
the thing is is that you are more of like
a ranting thing and Mama is like a comfort thing.
Speaker 1 (49:07):
Can I can I tell something that happened though thirty
minutes ago? I literally was like Mama started talking about
something and she was like remember she was like, oh
bah blah, like don't like when you And then and
then I see my sister getting like like overwhelmed, and
I literally when you were in the car, I was like, no.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
Stress, I know you.
Speaker 6 (49:25):
I have ears. I hear everything. I think.
Speaker 1 (49:28):
I'm always like telling her like you're stressing wrap. Stop
stop telling her that.
Speaker 6 (49:32):
Stop telling her you know, but you both stress me out.
It's like how you were saying that you go to
different people for like different needs to be. My mom
calms me down more, but my sister rants more.
Speaker 2 (49:45):
Who would you go to with like boy issues for
like unbiased?
Speaker 6 (49:48):
I go with my mom because she's gonna tell me
if I messed up or not biased. So I go
with my sister.
Speaker 2 (49:53):
Okay, And so you like more advice with boys like
you mess up more than you don't.
Speaker 6 (50:00):
No, it's more of like like I don't know how
to explain it, like my mom's gonna like call me
out more like even if I didn't do something wrong,
you be like, but you can maturely handle it instead
of like me being able to like crash out. And
I'd like to be a teenage girl with boys.
Speaker 1 (50:12):
To be honest, I'm kind of like, Okay, I see,
I see that this is happening, but I'm just gonna
like you make your own mistakes because I feel like
with boys, you can't be advised out of boys. I
just feel like you can't, especially at that age.
Speaker 2 (50:26):
Great point, at that age.
Speaker 1 (50:28):
It's like you're not gonna be like, hey, like do
you feel like this is a little toxic?
Speaker 6 (50:31):
Do you feel like my mom wants me to act
like if I'm like like twenty seven, like like mature
and whatever, like let me crash out something.
Speaker 1 (50:40):
You're not gonna look at it in a healthy way
at eighteen, Like when I was, it's like, I'm like, girl,
just do it.
Speaker 2 (50:45):
Let me ask a question though, being this tenure, do
you ever give her advice about boys?
Speaker 6 (50:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (50:50):
Yeah, you know, because it's interesting from a ten year
younger perspective, you know, there has to be some sort
of respect there. You listen to your sister when she goes, look,
here's what I see. I know I'm ten years younger,
but I have.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
A you might not get out with your first boyfriend.
I didn't like him and I told him a jerk,
and then my mom got mad at me, and then
I had to say draft instead. And I remember that
very vividly, and I didn't like him, and I was right.
Speaker 1 (51:14):
Yeah, I think you have very intuitive senses about people.
And I think that just like everybody, you can see
other people's things. You can see, hey, you can see
other people's like when I'm like really emotional and whatever,
you can see it from a very objective way, and
we can never see it when it's your own impulses.
Speaker 3 (51:35):
Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (51:36):
I know it, And sometimes it's fun just to like
not deal with it, like like you're saying, like you
kind of have to come to the realization yourself, really,
really do you have to get back.
Speaker 1 (51:50):
With that person? Ten times?
Speaker 2 (51:51):
You can't advice. I figured the word advice someone out
of a boy boy. It's like when you're set, I
hear you, but oh my.
Speaker 1 (52:02):
God, literally then you see them in person and.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
You're like, yeah, you're you're right, yeah, and you know
and you know too. It's like I think, I think
sometimes it's hard.
Speaker 4 (52:16):
I think for me with girls, it's more like and
my girlfriends, it's like when you see someone who literally
never takes not only anyone's advice, but like can't is
really like can't see it for themselves. Then there comes
a time where you're exhausted by your friend. You're like,
You've told me the same story like five thousand times.
Speaker 6 (52:38):
I know who I'm talking I love her, and she's
my karma because I was hurt.
Speaker 4 (52:42):
So but you literally like you've you've you're literally beating
your head against a wall. He's yeah, I mean I
have friends that I'm like, he's cheated on you, like
a thousand times, and you're still asking me.
Speaker 3 (52:57):
What I think. Like he's a dick. He needs to go.
You need to move on.
Speaker 4 (53:01):
You're better than this, and it doesn't matter what I say, so,
but like I can't hear it anymore. Yeah, And I've
had friends like that where I've had to be like,
I can't hear this anymore because now now I'm just
enabling you to like have someone treat you like shit.
Speaker 2 (53:15):
I'm tired of it I'm tired of over and over again,
you know, and you just repeating it and I.
Speaker 6 (53:21):
Have I don't know, I feel like it's frustrating. It's relatable.
It's like relatable in a sense like I can't like
I came in through it. Yeah, that's the thing with me.
It's like my friends, Like I will let her complain.
There's a specific friend that I'm thinking, you know what
I'm thinking about. I let her complain and like I'll
be like yeah, and I understand, Like I have to
(53:43):
like Oprah like therapy here in a little bit, like
I understand how you're feeling, but it's wrong. And then
I have to like remind her of like yeah, you
missed the good stuff, but like remember like all of
the badget Like you just have to like I have
to listen to it just because like that was me,
and like I can't like because you made you made
her sit through all your stuff, not even her, just
like I've made people and like I feel like that's
(54:03):
my car, Like I have to, like I have to
listen to and let you rent and also because like
if I don't let her rant them, like who is
she going to ran to? Like you know, what I mean.
Speaker 3 (54:11):
I don't know. Yeah, I ran, I ran to chat
GPT all the time, me too.
Speaker 1 (54:16):
Okay, by the way, talk about somebody who is good
and awesome therapy like hearing you and then reassure you
and then be like do you want some help with that?
Speaker 3 (54:25):
And you're like.
Speaker 1 (54:30):
Oh yeah all the time.
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Oh yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 3 (54:34):
You could be like you could be like, hey.
Speaker 4 (54:36):
My boyfriend, yeah, just you know, got he down with
me because I said this and then this was his response,
and then I felt like this, and then I didn't
know what to do.
Speaker 3 (54:47):
And I'm trying to figure out how to like explain
to him that I feel this way and be like, wow,
that sounds like you're having a really tough time.
Speaker 1 (54:55):
Oh my god, ready, Hi, can you act as my therapist.
Speaker 9 (55:01):
I'm having an issue with my brother Oliver. He has
incredibly low self esteem and it just feels like he's
incredibly jealous of all of the things that I do,
and I don't know how to actually express that it
hurts my feelings.
Speaker 2 (55:15):
Allegedly help me.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
That's a whoop your ass.
Speaker 2 (55:19):
This is just play. This is playtime.
Speaker 3 (55:22):
That sounds painful.
Speaker 2 (55:23):
She's like, is it Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (55:24):
Hey, thanks for sharing. Hey, thanks for sharing. I'm really
glad you reached out.
Speaker 4 (55:33):
Oh that sounds painful when someone you care about it,
especially as sibling treats you in a way that feels
rooted and jealousy.
Speaker 1 (55:39):
And insecurity reassurance.
Speaker 3 (55:41):
It can leave you feeling unseen or even punished for
your success. And it's doubly hard when you're trying to
be sensitive to their feelings but feel like yours don't
get the same care. Can I ask, what are some
of the ways his jealousy shows up?
Speaker 4 (55:58):
Like does he criticize you, with draw, makes arcostic comments,
try to one up you or something else?
Speaker 3 (56:03):
And what happens inside you when he does? And then
it keeps going. But it's amazing and it's awful, it's.
Speaker 2 (56:12):
Really I mean, it's pretty standard fair. I mean, it's
like psychology one one.
Speaker 1 (56:18):
Right, you know, and all of it was just hypothetical.
Speaker 3 (56:21):
So yes, okay, wait, we got to stop.
Speaker 4 (56:24):
We're cutting this in half, Oliver, because it's so great
and we're going to keep going. So we're gonna do
two part episode. We love you listeners, and we'll be
back here part Stay tuned.
Speaker 2 (56:33):
You're gonna have to stay tuned because it gets crazy
in the second half.
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Oliver Hudson
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