October 13, 2025 • 45 mins
Dancing with the Stars Judge Derek Hough can do the jitterbug with his eyes closed, but the dad-to-be jitters is a whole other story!
Derek and Oliver bond over their shared roles as husbands, brothers and, coming soon, over-protective fathers. How will he juggle everything with his new gig as the host of Extra!?
Plus, hear what it was like to grow up with all girls, and what he’s really thinking when he’s dishing out scores on the DWTS leaderboard!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No, no, sibling,
you don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.
(00:39):
Oliver Hudson, reporting live from Rules of Engagement. No, this
show is called sibling Revelry. I'm not gonna do much
of a preamble here because I'm all preambled out now
because we've got Derek Huff waiting in the waiting room.
I've known the man for a minute now. He's a
good man. He's a handsome man. He's a host, he's
(01:02):
a dad, he's a husband. He's the number one judge
on DW twos Dancing with the Stars. I think that's
how to say it. It works with his sister, there's
a lot to talk about, just bringing man, let's get
to this ship. Yo. What up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Ah? What's up? Dude?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How's it going? I'm good man, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Good, good good. We finally made it happen. I'm happy.
Thank you for coming on, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thanks brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Man, but you've been well, man, you're fucking killing it
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Dude. I'm just you know, I'm just doing what I can. Man,
I know why I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, before I get before I have this baby, and
I'm like, and it's all gonna change.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I know, I know, I know. Well, the hustle
is real. But you're doing extra right now. You're the
judge on Dancing with the Stars, right, this is what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Now, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And your sister is hosting.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's right. Yeah, So you guys ever get.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You guys ever get sick if you each other? I mean,
you know, it's like you're together all the time. You're
doing ship all the time. My sister and I the same.
You know, we do this show all the time. But
is it ever like all right, Jules, like, let's just
take a break.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, it's funny. Actually it's weird because we actually
we like never see each other. Actually don't know, we
really don't. We we literally see each other on set
like what you see on TV. We don't see each other.
She's off in her hosting world over there. Yeah, the
judges are over here. So we actually don't even interact
(02:33):
when we're on the show. There's a few moments where
we do like a few selfies or something during the show,
but we like actually never see each other, so it's
kind of funny. But we also we kind of give
each other like little uh you know, uh, I don't know,
kind of rise each other a little bit. You know
that's the wrong word, but.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Now a whole different words.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yo, she's got rizz. He's got riz.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
As I'm learning, I'm trying to keep up.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Man up, Well you're so this is number one. This
is your baby, Your baby's number one.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Number one. Man, this is number one is crazy, I
believe at forty years old, and I'm crazy starting.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So good for you though, Yeah, man, how many they have?
I have three? They just came home. As my dogs
are barking, I'm like, I'm like buried in my you know,
you're in every house, there's a room that's supposed to
be a room of some kind, but it turns into
a storage room. Yes, you know, it's just shit everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
When my kids come home, you know, I've got nowhere
to go because I've got nowhere to go. So now
I'm in the storage room. Yeah, I'm eighteen, I have
fifteen and I have twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Amazing. Man, that's incredible. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And it's it's nutty. How you feeling. How's it feel?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I feel good. It's funny, like I feel like sometimes
I'm like in the you know, I'm doing things and
then I look over and I see my pregnant wife.
Your beautiful belly is starting to hop crazy. He her
belly button. Just yesterday, I just noticed it started to
starting to kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like spread out a little bit, and I was.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like, whoa, you know, felt the baby kick. Actually, at
the time I felt the baby kick, we were watching
f one in the movie theater and it was really loud.
I was like, man, maybe okay, and then Hailey was like,
hey feel and you know, the baby's like hey, keep
it down out there.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah yeah, but it was.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's amazing. Man, I'm excited about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I bet, I bet. How do you have any fear? Honestly? Like,
is there any fear? Or is it just kind of
like you know what, I'm gonna roll with it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like, here's the thing. As I've gotten older, I've realized
that I'm I'm a worrier. I worry, and I never
really considered myself like that. But after Haley had her
you know, her brain surgery. Yeah, I think it just
amplified everything a little bit where I'm a little bit
(04:59):
more or like cautious. You know, there was a moment
when we're about to go on tour, the day that
we're about to go back out on tour after she
you know, forty percent of her school is missing. You know,
she's got this massive plate in her head. She wasn't
supposed to survive. We're about to go on tour, We're
dancing together. I'm already a nervous wreck, and I just
hear a boom in the shower and she had full
(05:23):
slipped back and fell in the shower. And I look
over and she's like this and she's like it's okay,
I caught myself. And I'm like, and it's weird. That
moment kind of just as like this to this day.
When I get out of the shower, I like, squeeze
you the floor, make sure the dope soper conditioner on it.
(05:45):
But I'm like already like paranoid about that. So now
I'm like okay with the child. Yeah, I have twenty
twenty five nieces and nephews, and I am like, you know,
covering corners.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You've done it, yeah, I know you you you've done
it right, You've done the nieces and the nephews, you know.
But that that there's always the first one's always nutty
because you just wanted to survive, you know what I mean.
It's just like, holy shit, what am I doing? You know,
in the infant stages anyway, you know, I remember with
wild or my first one. You're just so you know,
(06:19):
there's a paranoia, there's love and there's paranoia. It's all mixed.
All emotions are just mixed together. You know, you're walking,
You're going in there every night, like making sure the
kid is breathing. Oh my god. And then by the
third one, it's just kind of like, okay, I'm sure
she'll be fine. I'm sure she'll be fine. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, you got this, you got this here.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I mean, luckily, like you know, we have a
lot of friends and a lot of people who are like, okay,
this is what you need. You need like, you know,
if you need like to sleep a little bit more
night nurse thing, yeah, yeah, which is amazing because I
think back to, like, you know, my parents, our parents.
I'm sure, yeah, I mean my mom had five kids.
I'm like, oh, a night nurse, Like what is that?
(06:57):
You know? And you know, so so I feel fortunate
that we're able to find a little bit of maybe
some relief. We'll see, but I think I'm still gonna
be up, like freaking of course.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of course, so with your wife. Man, that's crazy, that's right.
I forgot about that when that shit went down. I mean,
that is a scary, scary moment for you guys. What
was it do? How is it even recognize?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
We were on stage, we were on stage in front
of four thousand people, and we were at the end
of the show, and she just was kind of doing
this with her eye, like she's kind of like squinting,
and she's like and then she starts like she, you know,
audibly was making discomfort, you know, noises, like, and I
(07:44):
thought it was her neck because you know, this is
like a yeah, and so I'm protecting her neck as
we're dancing and we're just kind of keep moving forward
and you know, show must go on kind of thing,
and just protecting her and then we're supposed to come
out for this moment and she didn't come out, and
I was like, that's weird, and the stage manager she's
not coming out. I was like, okay, and then I
(08:04):
just you know, you're in front of this audience, so
you're just kind of like talking insane things. And the
irony of it all was that in that moment, I'm
talking about a friend of mine that passed away, and
I'm talking about how fragile and precious life is and
how it's fleeting, and you know that we cherish the
ones that we love, and and meanwhile she's literally dying
on the side of the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like actually, in that moment, like it was that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Bad, it was that acute that she was at that
point having seizures and she doesn't remember anything she was
she was on stage, and then she's you know, all
this crazy scary stuff happened, the ambulance rushed into the hospitals,
all these different things, and here's a crazy fact. Actually
later on, First of all, the doctor was like, you know,
(08:52):
it's not good. It's very severe, and even if she survives,
because it's that bad, she's she probably isn't gonna be
the same person that you know, because you know this
kind of brain bleaed, this kind of swelling, paralysis, speech
compairamid you know, all these different things. So basically you've
(09:12):
lost the person that you knew. And we just got married,
by the way, three months three months before that. But
the crazy story about this, you know, fortunately she's here.
Everything was we had these amazing triumphs. But you know,
I talked about that time because it was like the
hardest time and one of the best times ever because
all of a sudden everything gets kind of wiped clean,
(09:33):
and all of a sudden, her getting up to go
to the bathroom was like the best day of my life,
you know what I mean. It was like, this is
the best day of my life. And then her like
walking up the stairs was like the biggest triumph I've
ever felt. So there's all these amazing like triumphs that
you experience and the simplest of things, and then working
her way back out to get on stage. And but
(09:54):
the crazy thing was real fast was when we were
at the theater, we had a decision to make there's
a hospital ten minutes away in Washington, DC, and there
was a hospital thirty five minutes away. Obviously we're like,
let's go to the closest hospital because this is bad.
She's something's not good. And her eyes were dilated, one
(10:15):
was was huge, one was pinpoint. So it was either
a stroke or something brain related. So we in that
moment we decided to go to the further hospital that
was more about brain but we didn't know and basically
down the line, about six months later, the doctor told me,
he said, if you would have went to the other hospital,
she would have she would have died really, yeah, and
(10:38):
because they didn't have they didn't have the resources, they
didn't have the things to do the emergency surgery, and
by the time they got her somewhere, it would have
been too late. So it's like, it's like things. It's
like things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You're was like, was it was it an aneurysm?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, we actually we don't know exactly what happened, really,
but we think we do. At the beginning of that show,
we actually hit heads really hard, but we've hit hard,
we've hit heads hard before. There's nothing out of the ordinary,
but we but our bells were wrong, yeah, and we
both were kind of looking at each other. But we
(11:15):
think that's what it was because that's the kind of
you know, the human toomea was is an impact. It
wasn't like so luckily in a way. Luckily it was
that because we know what happened and it's not going
to happen again all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, Wow, what an experience, man, what an experience. You know.
I mean, it's so interesting going back to what you said,
which is, you know, usually you know, the person who
goes through that situation and has to sort of relearn
to walk or those small victories that you're talking about,
and how life becomes clear and perspective starts to sort
(11:52):
of show itself in a beautiful way. It's usually attributed
to the person who had happened to but we don't
really hear about sort of the loved ones, you know,
and how you yourself had that moment as well, meaning
your perspective changed, things shifted for you. You know, life
(12:12):
was sort of like you said, the slate was white,
was wiped clean, and and it was like, wow, it's
it's these small things now that matter.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's it was you know. She she
talked about this because she basically was on stage. She blinked,
and then she woke to the hospital like what happened
and missing half her skull and head shaved and you know,
face swelled up, was unrecognizable and seventy staples in her
(12:41):
head and and so she missed. She essentially missed like
this the scary part if you will, you know, And
so she actually we actually, by the way, we actually
filmed the documentary about this. He did, and we just
actually submitted it to Sundance like three days ago.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But a good friend of mine, his name is Jason Berg,
you know, he's like amazing director, does documentaries, and he
when we started to go to dance again, he's like, hey, Cannect,
come film this the process because for her dancing again.
And so anyway, if we ended up doing it, we
went back on tour. She got back out on stage.
It was this beautiful, like triumphant moment. It was really beautiful.
(13:21):
And but but she really, honestly like the way she
moved to this whole thing was unbelievable. Man, she could
a smile on her face. There was no like poor me,
It was just this is my new reality, this is
what it is. And she was really strong for us, you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know, yeah crazy. So how long was it before she
re cut before like an incident, and then recovery and
she's dancing again.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well that was the miraculous part because the doctor was like,
we're it's going to take four or five months to
just get the implant in because your brain is so
swelled up. They had to leave the skull off. Yeah
for a while. Well he said it. He said it
was gonna be for a while. Yeah, And she literally
looked at him and she's like, I'm gonna do it
two weeks. He's like, uh, huh, okay, you know three
(14:06):
months at least, dude, two weeks to the day we
took the helmet off and he gasped. He went He
was like looking at her like confused, like wait what
because obviously the skull concaves and she's got this massive
crater in her head, you know, now the brain's come down.
And he goes, oh my god, I can't believe this.
And he said, I said, well, what do you think.
(14:29):
Can we operate you know, tomorrow? He goes, no, it's like,
can we operate today? Joe goes, how about tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I was like, oh shoot, So wow.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
From the incident to her back on stage was four months.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, it was pretty extraordinary. And by the way, going
back to being.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A warrior, yeah yeah, I was. I was like, yeah, yeah,
she's got like a full like NFL helmet on and pads,
like she's like, I don't want to wear this, and like,
I don't care if you're wearing this Eagles helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But by the way, that that's also the problem though,
is because if you're apprehensive and if you're you're focusing
on what's going to go wrong, you're it's gonna go
wrong because where you focus goes your energy flows, and
like you're focus on the wrong things. And I was like,
she told me that, she goes, Babe, you have to
you have to come, you have to like trust me.
And I was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah yeah, wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Crazy dude, crazy, crazy, crazy, but amazing. You know really,
I mean to have gone through something like that, I mean,
even just as far as just a relationship goes, and
the depth where you think you think you're you think
you're deep, and then you just you can dig even
deeper with something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's just yeah, no, man, it was. It was. It
was a w We were able to watch this documentary
last week at Uta, this slim screening room, and it
was like it was it was really beautiful. You know,
it was really cool to watch just to sit back
and be like, whoa that was that actually happened? And
then the thing now about it our our child, you know,
(16:02):
on on its way and thinking like wow, they get
to see this moment in mom and dad's life, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
M Yeah, it's pretty cool. So where'd you grow up again? Utah?
You grew up in Utah, Utah man, Yeah, and you
had multiple siblings, fourth sisters grew up in Utah only boy,
(16:30):
you know, where'd you Where were you in the pecking order?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Three older sisters? Myself and then Julianne. Yeah, okay, yeah,
it was cool surrounded by women, completely surrounded by women. Honestly,
like I found as I got older, I was like,
I find it really hard to talk to guys, Like
it's so much easier to like, I don't know why,
I think growing up, I was like, oh talking to Yeah,
(16:54):
I talked to a guy. I'm like, how did I
do this?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't know, that's funny, you know, I wonder how
do you think that actually sort of affected you? You know,
I mean, you grew up with a bunch of sisters.
Like for a while, I just had Mom and Kate
because Dad was out of the picture and Kurt wasn't
there yet. So there's a lot of feminine energy sort
of in my early life, and I, you know, I
can sort of attribute some of my personality to that
(17:23):
and just the way that I my man. I don't know,
maybe some sensitivities, maybe just some empathy. I don't know what,
but I wonder if you can recognize any part of
you that's like, oh well, this is just because I
grew up around eight hundred chicks.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, so I think for me and later as I
got you know, older, actually, you know, I realized as
you start to learn about certain like you know, feminine
energy and mathe energy and all these different types of
things modalities and stuff, I realized that I definitely lived
(18:00):
in my I actually lived more in my feminine energy,
if you will, which I think served me really well,
and in certain forms of you know, art and you know,
dance and creativity. And however, it's funny, but with dancing dancing,
actually I feel I was the way I like stepped
into my maskuline energy, the way I felt super connected
(18:21):
to my body. Like it's like you know, if you
go play in sports or something like that, you just
feel like you just connected to something. But as I
got older, I was like, oh, interesting, like and I
generally notice it until this guy came into my life.
It was my sister's husband, and he just was like
a dude. He was just a dude because I was
(18:41):
always around like artists and like creatives, and he was
like fish lift weights, and it was there was something
like just like refreshing about like, oh, dang, I think
I've like I need to like balance this out a
little bit and just do some like just stuff that
isn't like in the world of like creating an art
(19:04):
or I just need to like do some just just
some stuff that just feels disconnected to that to get
back into that masculine energy a little bit more and
then to just some it's more balanced.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What did you do did you actually seek out like
masculine endeavors.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I mean, it's it's not like it's like it's not
like binary. It's like it's like this is masculine this side.
But but it did I did feel a sense of like,
you know, I don't know, it's just like to do
things that like just felt more grounded. I suppose because
I can get really like, you know, up here and
(19:42):
you know, like in this creative space constantly, and it's
like to turn it off. I gotta do something that's
just like uh that you know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's interesting. No, I know,
I know what you mean. You know, it's just sort
of rooting yourself a little bit more in. It's almost
as quiet as your mind sometimes too, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And are you a nature dude?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Totally totally are Yeah. Yeah, I love the outdoors, I
mean growing up in Utah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I love I love mountains, and that's that's the
thing that really like keeps me still. And then I
lived in London for ten years, so you did. It's
like city city kid. I went to school there and
then I went back to Utah. Was like, oh shit,
Utah is fricken gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I didn't know why. I didn't realize where I was
growing up. This is amazing, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And what were you doing living in London.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Twelve years old to twenty two?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Just were you dancing?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah? I moved in with my coaches a dance coach did, yeah,
and moved out there by myself.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
At the age of ten.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You were by yourself like twelve, Yeah, and Julianne was nine.
She went out to like at nineteen years old. And
then but we moved in with the family. Mark Ballas
was on Dancing Stars as well. He was We moved
in with him and his family, his mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
How does that work? Man? Like, you're so young, I
mean your parents, how do you? Yeah, how do you
do that? Because they have to raise o their children
as well? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, you know, it was such a it was such
a unique time because my my parents were right getting
a divorce right in that moment, and so that the
house kind of was like this, like it just kind
of started to disjoint a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, so we're.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Kind of floating around a little bit. And also this
opportunity came and then all of a sudden, we had
like school and we had goals, we had competitions, we
had lessons. We had this like sort of like regiment
and like we want to become a champion. So that
consistency and that, I don't know, it just it just
helped us as the young kids, you know. So that's
(21:42):
where we really crafted and we re formed that like
dancing core for so many years and then and honestly,
I thank my mom and dad because that was that
was hard. It was hard to let us go. It
was only supposed to be like a few months, and
then I ended We ended up. And then they're like,
all right, time to come home.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I was like, no, oh really, yeah, You're like
now we're staying. I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah. I was like I'm about to. I had this
a competition come up, I got a train, I gotta
be here and do this. And for ten years it
was like this fight. Just I wanted to stay and
they wanted me to come home because like can I
raise you? You're my child, you know. And now now
when I see Likenis and nephews, I was like, I
was that young. I was twelve years old.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, shit, my daughter's twelve. And I mean I can't
even imagine. I mean I would that would be I
would be crushed.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, and so and so I actually have a lot
of like later in life, I just have a lot
of like empathy and appreciation for the sacrifice that you know,
they both had and yeah, you know to allow that,
you know, essentially because it was a big sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, my daughter's obsessed with dance. You know, it's their
first their first year. She's on the team dance team
at her at her school, and so she's dancing like
six days a week, you know, two or three of
the days like three hours. You know. It's all different
kinds of dances, lyrical to jazz, to hip hop, the
whole thing. And so she'll start competing in November. But
(23:14):
she's just obsessed. And she's so beautiful, her body so beautiful,
she's so long, and it's just like, I mean, it's
for me. The pride that you have is just unbelievable.
And to watch her and how graceful and amazing she
is and.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I love that matter. But by the way, it was
so great about dance, was so great about dance. And
I'll say this again, a class, if I'm teaching a class,
and like it doesn't matter if like you know, there'll
be some people they'll be you know, kids in a class,
and some this is like what they want to do,
this is a career and that they'll take that path.
And some this will be a chapter in the life
and they'll have a lot of different things, but it's
never ever, ever, ever wasted because the discipline, the awareness,
(23:54):
all these things that you learn, you will take with
you for the rest of your life, no matter what.
So I always encourage.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, Oh yeah, you know what I love most too.
I love I love how I love how strict these
teachers are. Yeah, it's like the only place now because
I think we're just being coddled to death, you know,
just generally sure, But it's the only place now where
like that discipline you can stern. It's like, you know,
(24:21):
Rieo's in the car doing her hair with the hairsprakes.
It's ballet, and if hair's out of place, they get
mad at you. I mean, you know, not overly crazy,
but I'm saying there's a discipline there. It's like, get
your shit together. You know, girls, this isn't working You're
not practicing enough. It's not working out. You have to
be better.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah. I think it's great, man. I think having that guidance.
And like you said, I love what you said too,
because it is true. We're sort of in this sort
of you know, the sort of like interesting phase or
balance of like Okay, what's too hard, what's too strict
mm hmm, but what's not strict enough, Like it's like
find that right balance. But I think that it is
(25:01):
important to have that sort of standard and those like
sort of like perimeters to work with them. This couldn't
find because I feel like, you know, if it just
becomes I'm all about encouraging, I'm all about like sure
but of course, but that but that, But I look
back at my teaching and my time, I'm like, it
was the times when I was like taken to the
(25:22):
corner being like, hey, you better and told off. That's
that's when I was like, oh and I figured it out,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Of course. But by the way, its also because you're
that good, like you're you're too good to just wait
to just fuck off essentially, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, no, that's awesome. I love that, man, I love yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, it's great. It's fun. It's fun for me too.
It's just my only kid who who's actually regimented in
some sort of athletics into a sport. You know. My
boys are they down they ski, they downhill, mountain bike,
they're on dirt bikes, you know, motorcycles, this, this, and that.
They're heavily into golf now but it's all individual stuff, right.
They didn't want to play team. You know, there was
(26:00):
no competition. So she's my she's my first and only
one now that is competing, and you know she has
that sort of fire when you when.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You say competing. Is it a part of the school
team competition?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No, school, it's a studio. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh so did you go to a convention?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes, she went to a convention last weekend. She was
in at a convention.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Car got you got you cool? Cool?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
All right?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Awesome. No. The reason why I say that because I'm
literally about to launch a convention competition you are in December. Yeah,
it's called Ovation.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, so it's sort of the first it's gonna be
like a sort of a fusion convention competition with like
contemporary Yeah, Ballerman, Latin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Where are you doing it?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
We're doing seven cities the first year. First ones in
Chicago in December. Yeah, and then we'll do like you know,
Miami and New York, and then of course Anaheim, Plifornia,
and then San Diego.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's where Rio is an Anaheim for this car thing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, well, dude, this isn't you guys? Do you guys
should come down. It's it's really it's giving me really
really really Oh yeah, Tolly Favia. You know Robbie Blue
who's done like the commercial.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
He just won an Emmy and in a VMA he's
he's one of the teachers as well.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Like, yeah, dude, sick.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Oh fun? Yeah, man, so great dude, yeah, will
I will for sure. So so what how how do
you get off on dancing? You know what I mean?
What is it? What is the thing? You know? I
mean I kind of understand because you know, singing, moving
(27:42):
your body. I mean there's something that is special about that.
You know, there's something that's exhilarating about it. But like what,
how does it still give you a boner? You know,
like what is that thing where you're just like, God,
damn it, I just love it so much.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, man, it's
it's an I have an interesting relationship with dance now
in a way because you know, here's the thing as
it's evolving, it's evolving. Yeah, because when I competed as
a dancer, I loved it, but it was very much
like I was training. And but I will say this.
(28:18):
I will say this as like the thing that I
love most about it is when I'm actually dancing performing
like a go on torn I'm dancing. Yeah, I truly
feel like the most It sounds cheesy, like connected, I
feel connected to myself because I do have a busy
ass brain in my brain. But when I'm just dancing
(28:39):
and the music and the music sinks up and your
body sync up together and they're doing this, you just
like you start sounds silly, but like I just like
start like like things hard and strong, and then I'm
I'm meaning to shape myself. The bass, you feel the
drums hit it, that all of that, It just makes
(29:00):
you feel super just like here and just present and.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm feeling it right now. When you're explaining that, yeah damn,
I'm like, yeah, I wish I could feel that way.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No, that's the thing. But on the flip side of that, though,
we to do the creation process can be fucking torture.
Like you're just like you're like, oh my god, I
have no ideas and what is this and this isn't
good enough? And oh my, you know, there's this expectation,
like you know, you've won four Emmys and people are
(29:32):
looking at you like, come on, man, like you're supposed
to be good. Ah, you know, those spirits have to
creep in, and I start to get a little bit
my head about things and sometimes that sort of over
analysis equals paralys type of thing, you know. But but
so it's an interesting relationship where when I'm doing it
m hm, right, got it, but creating it can sometimes be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Like yeah, well it's so I mean when you have
a partner too, there it is so intimate, especially depending
on what kind of dances you're doing, you know what
I mean. And you know, it's a it's an interesting
it's an interesting gig. I know, you're married and all
this stuff, but like you're marere to do a dancer.
I mean, when you were connected like that with someone
(30:15):
and you're flying and you're in sync, there's something so
like sexy and romantic and about it all, you know,
And then but you have to kind of separate yourself
from all that ship I well.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
There is and there isn't because like when you dance
and when you've grown up dancing and do it, you
can I mean you might watch it and be like
oh my gosh, yeah, energy between them. But then I
might be like, oh, there's no, there's no energy there.
That was just that's just that's that's just that, that's
just the movement, the dancing. It's like a very definitely
(30:45):
separate the two.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Especially when you're dancing. You dance with your sister too, right,
I mean, oh yeah, yeah, you know, so that's like
what's up with that? And that's a whole other thing,
you know, and way, but that's that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's the thing is like for me, you know, from
the outside looking in, when you watch me dancing, like
it feels really intimate in that kind of way, mm hmm.
But for us as dances, it's really not. It's just
like you're you're we're like focused on the mechanics and
we're focusing on like stretching, and like, you know, there's
so many, so many things going on in our brain
(31:19):
about certain things that we're not even thinking about, like
you know, the you know what I mean, there's too
much going on in our brains. But yeah, man, it's
it's uh, it's but on Dancing with the Stars, I
will say, you know, you get somebody coming out coming
in there, you know, and all of a sudden, they're
like learning from you.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And of course, I mean, like the think how many
relationships there's been from Dancing with the Stars, only that's
what those are the ones that we've heard. I mean,
you know, I mean, I'm sure you have all kinds
of dirt about the ship that no one knows about
that goes on, that went on for the billions of
seasons of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh, by the way, my favorite is there's this whole
wave of new you know, it's the numb Umber one
show on TV, which is insane.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's crazy, it will not stop.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
It's insane. It's like this whole new life, the whole
new fan base and this holyw fan base. They've only
been watching it for like two years, and there's eighteen
years of this lore, if you will, that they like
they're trying to like re learn and hear about. And
I'm like, oh, the stuff you'll hear about is maybe
ten percent of what actually went on.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's crazy, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's crazy. You're right, though, You're right, because you have
two professionals together. They've been doing it all their lives.
They understand the game, they understand the dance, so to speak.
When you have these sort of celebrities or these Dancing
with the Star's contestants coming in who are now you know,
connected like that and feeling things and moving their body
with someone as they've never moved it before. Yeah, there's
(32:48):
something that is intoxicating about that. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, there's it's interesting. And listen, it doesn't always like
it doesn't always like turn into something or anything now, right,
but but you know it is. It's a unique experience
to feel guided in something and like you're like, oh,
I'm at your mercy kind of thing, and it's it's
in a good way, you know what I mean. In
(33:13):
a way it's like, oh, I get to actually be
taught something and it immersed in something every day, seven
days a week, six hours a day. Like when was
the last thing you ever got to do that?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like never, never. It's such a unique experience. And I
think that I think who I said this to. I
said this one of the contestants the other day because
they were saying like, oh, yeah, I'm really tired about
them trying to pins again against each other, and unless
I said, well, listen, you have to save this moment
because one it's gonna be over like that. And two,
(33:48):
you're never going to experience them like this ever. Again,
It's just just won't. You'll have other amazing opportunities and
other amazing experiences, but you will never like have this
sort of intense focus on something for this many hours
a day, for seven days a week, and then show
it something new every week in front of millions of people.
(34:08):
It's such a it's such a unique thing that you
just need a savor it. Man.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You need to say, oh, yeah, they asked I think
a few years back. I think I was We're doing
a show for ABC. They asked me to do it,
and I was too scared. I'm like, I can't. That's
too scary for me. Dude, Like I can't go dance
in front of people. Yet I'm not right scary.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I have Anybody's out there, like, whoever is crazy enough
to get to put themselves through this is like, yeah,
it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Man. How is it being a judge? You know? And
what kind of a judge are you? Can you give
it to him? Can you be like?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know what I mean, I'm gonna be I'm be
honest with you. I'm being honest with you I again,
because I've been in that position, you know, like I
really like I have a lot of respect and a
lot of like empathy and like hey, hey, like you're
doing good. You got there. And which is interesting because
of course, Lenn Goodman, who was you know, our head
judged for so many years. Listen, people would not have
(35:17):
survived the last few years. I mean we look back
at some of the comments and the things that they
had said. Ye were unbelievable and they were for me,
they were fantastic because it was just like shocking. Now
I will say this, it's interesting being a judge because
you know, I'll try to be I try to be encouraging.
(35:37):
I try to be you know, supportive, and also give
some practical notes that they can actually work on the
next week. That's what that's what I would want to hear.
Give me some clarity, like what do I need to
work on? You know. I try to give those notes
in fifteen seconds, which is the partest part, which sometimes
nothing comes out. I was just like, yeah, great job,
you know. But it's fun though, because being a judge
(36:02):
is not a popular position to be because you can
say something to somebody and then one person says, oh
my gosh, you're so mean. I hate you. Oh gosh,
I hate you. Yeah, the same comment below that will
be like you're too soft and like you're too nice,
like so you're just like you.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Can't waitin dude, no, you can't win, and you just
be you. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
By the way, you know, I've had some producers say like, hey,
can you, like, you know, get in a little bit more,
And I'm like, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm gonna be me because if I if I try
to be something I'm not, first of all, people are
gonna smell it my million, and it's gonna look it's
gonna look really like tacky. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
No, it's true. Yeah. You know if all of a
sudden you're like that was shit, Like wait a minute,
what Yeah, because they always always want, you know, the
I all of judges to have their you want want
the ones like direct and honest, then the ones that's
sort of soft and sweet, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to I try to be like practical. Yeah,
that's my that's my angle, if you will.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, And then extra is this is this a new
This is a new gig sort of right.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're three weeks in, three weeks in, yeah, yeah, three
weeks in.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's this is a great gig, though, you.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Know what it's It's crazy because when they first came
to me about it, I was like, I was like what.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I was like, nah, I don't seem doing that. And
then I was like thinking about it. I was first
I was thinking about having a baby, and I was like, okay, hey,
it's twenty minutes away. Yeah, okay, I'll be done at
twelve or one o'clock. I was like, yep, okay, that's
kind of fun. And and then of course I'm also
just a fan. I'm like a huge fan of movies.
I love music, I love I love you know, I'm
(37:56):
in then saying business, I love it. And so being
able to interview certain people and get to communicate with
them and talk with them, and it is really cool.
But I so much respect already three weeks in for
you know, Terry Seymour, who I've known for twenty years,
you know, and interviewing people and talking with them, it's
(38:17):
like such a skill. So I'm excited about exercising this
different muscle my first week as far as the interviews go.
My first week was like Margaret Robbie the Rock and Blunt,
like Jessica Chef Stay, we saw the Spoonship. I was like,
I was like, shit, guys in the first week, Oh no,
(38:37):
that's hard. It was great though, because the one they
were all really gracious, is really kind and wonderful. But
I definitely felt like, you know, I learned a lot
of different moment you know things in there. But there's
a lot of the best moments that came out of those.
But the moments that I like, there were genuine questions
that I actually that I wanted to ask.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That wasn't like, you know, from the car or you know.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, so that was like a good indicator. Was like, okay, cool,
Like I need to just like trust my instincts in
those ways. But I will say that the biggest learning
curve is in the vos, right, bro, I'm in there
and I'm like, first of all, I'm start reading it
and you know, his name is Caesar. He's in there.
(39:20):
He's like, hey, try like he's like a little more
energy here, like more.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Energy coming up with dad.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And I was like, are you sure I sound like
a I saw like a Muppet or something.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
But then then you see it in context Sack and
the clips, and I was like, wow, I'm actually not
doing enough. Yeah. So then I'm in there now the
setup was like sitting down doing it at the videos.
Now I'm standing up. I have a thing up here,
and I'm like, I'm like, we got I'm like, I'm
(39:58):
like dancing in there like a crazy person. But it's wild, man,
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, it's so true. It's so so true, dude.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
It sounds crazy, but it is funny. There's a lot
of moments in there where like it goes something something
in Oliver Hudson and then that goes up and I
just I just I'm literally feel like Ron Burgundy and
I'm like, I'm like, is that I mean about that?
They like trust us? And then it goes into the clip.
I'm like, oh, that sounds correct. So my grandpa was
(40:30):
a radio DJ in Spokane, Washington and uh one of
the few guys who actually got Elvis to come up
with him and did a radio base is a picture
of him. So when I was in there, I was
kind of like I was kind of like channeling my
grandpa a little bit, like just like kind of that
radio voice, you know, and yeah, it was kind of
a cool, cool little moment. But that's that's been a
(40:51):
big learning curve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Did you just get a call like, hey, Derek, like
any interest in and do an extra?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, simple, it was just a cold call.
And I was like, I was like, I was like,
I don't think so. And then I went and met
with them and then we just were talking. I was like, yeah,
that could be kind of fun, okay, all right, and
then and then it was literally like a cool I
said yes. And then I think like three four days
(41:19):
later like cool, You're going in with Margot, Robbie and
Colin Fare.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I was like wow. I was like, shit, how do
you what's the prep on something like that? You know?
Is it just you get the questions. It's it's pretty
it's pretty basic.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
You know obviously the questions about the film, yeah, you know,
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Of course, and it's a proper sit down, right, it's
like that sit down.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Oh dude, that's the other part of it, is the
press junket thing. Yeah, so oh yeah, I don't know
about that stuff. So I go, you know, you go
to the Four Seasons, you go in there and you
check in and and first of all, you sit down
in a dark hallway and like in a in a
row on these chairs and they're all sitting there. I'm like, guys,
(42:00):
and you were just going one by one, waiting your
turn and going for eight minutes and then like I mean,
and they just jesus. It was dude, I feel like
a little kid going up the first day of school.
I was like this, this is terrifying.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hell yeah, especially four days after. Yeah, I'll do this gig.
Here's Margot, Robbie and Colin for like, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah I go and then like, yeah, be better. And
I already said that. I think I said to him
was like, hey, by the way, this is my first interview.
They're like shut up, They're like what like So anyways,
it was it was cool, man, But I learned. I've
learned a lot. It's been really neat and uh, like
I said before, I've been really fortunate because it's kind
(42:40):
of nice too, is that some of these some of
these people have they know they know me kind of
in some way or indirectly, and some someone like.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
We're channing exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, like oh bro, we were dancing at that Halloween
party years ago. Like right, so it kind of is
nice to break the ice a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And well, I think that's why you're such a great hire,
you know, I mean for a million different reasons. But yes,
you have relationships. You've been in Hollywood long enough now
you have relationships with a lot of these people. So
it's not just some sort of interviewer talking head where
it's it's like, oh yeah, dude, like what's up. I mean,
there's a comfortability that happens when being interviewed by someone
who you you know, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
For sure, for sure. Man. It's uh, it's so it's
been cool. It's been cool. But again, it's like a
lot of I will say this. It's funny that there's
some moments when I'm talking about some things and I'm like,
oh no, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I know, but you're like it's okay, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, oh i'd be I think i'd be fired because
I'd go down a weird rabbit hole, you know what
i mean. I'd go way off the questions, be like
wait a minute, you just said this, and then all
of a sudden we're off on a different tangent.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, by the way too. Even just like yesterday we were like,
you know, Channing Channing Tatium and Kristen Dunn's for Ruthman,
and you know, we're talking and I have, you know,
like eight questions prepared, all these things and characters and
and we just talked about parent advice basically because you
have eight minutes, and you're, oh, that's it. Oh my gosh,
(44:07):
I asked one question.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, dude, it sounds like you've been amazing. Congratulations on
the baby coming and all of your successes, and it's
been great to talk to you. And thank you for
taking the time.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Man, I know your course, brother, I appreciate you. Man,
Thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, take it easy, man, you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
See your brother, take care man, all right later.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
What a handsome dude, huh. Just hair's perfect, beard's perfect,
baby blues shining through, just clean cut, bang bang. I
got ten years on him, I know. But look at me,
Look at me, you know, I you know, I look
like I don't know what I look like. I look
like a man that was just found in a dumpster,
(44:51):
you know, who was just sort of taking off the
street giving headphones in a mic You know what, though
I am handsome in my own way, do you hear that, Derek,
I'm handsome in my own way. Just because you're glowing
(45:11):
and I'm Matt doesn't mean that you're better than me,
all right, ending bye a
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling railvalry. No, no, sibling,
you don't do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.
(00:39):
Oliver Hudson, reporting live from Rules of Engagement. No, this
show is called sibling Revelry. I'm not gonna do much
of a preamble here because I'm all preambled out now
because we've got Derek Huff waiting in the waiting room.
I've known the man for a minute now. He's a
good man. He's a handsome man. He's a host, he's
(01:02):
a dad, he's a husband. He's the number one judge
on DW twos Dancing with the Stars. I think that's
how to say it. It works with his sister, there's
a lot to talk about, just bringing man, let's get
to this ship. Yo. What up?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Ah? What's up? Dude?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
How are you man?
Speaker 3 (01:20):
How's it going? I'm good man, I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Good, good good. We finally made it happen. I'm happy.
Thank you for coming on, dude.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
Thanks brother, I appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Man, but you've been well, man, you're fucking killing it
right now.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Dude. I'm just you know, I'm just doing what I can. Man,
I know why I can't.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
I know, I'm with you.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
Yeah, before I get before I have this baby, and
I'm like, and it's all gonna change.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
No, I know, I know, I know. Well, the hustle
is real. But you're doing extra right now. You're the
judge on Dancing with the Stars, right, this is what
we're doing.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
Now, Yes, that's right.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
And your sister is hosting.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
That's right. Yeah, So you guys ever get.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
You guys ever get sick if you each other? I mean,
you know, it's like you're together all the time. You're
doing ship all the time. My sister and I the same.
You know, we do this show all the time. But
is it ever like all right, Jules, like, let's just
take a break.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
You know, it's funny. Actually it's weird because we actually
we like never see each other. Actually don't know, we
really don't. We we literally see each other on set
like what you see on TV. We don't see each other.
She's off in her hosting world over there. Yeah, the
judges are over here. So we actually don't even interact
(02:33):
when we're on the show. There's a few moments where
we do like a few selfies or something during the show,
but we like actually never see each other, so it's
kind of funny. But we also we kind of give
each other like little uh you know, uh, I don't know,
kind of rise each other a little bit. You know
that's the wrong word, but.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Now a whole different words.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Yo.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yo, she's got rizz. He's got riz.
Speaker 3 (03:00):
As I'm learning, I'm trying to keep up.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Man up, Well you're so this is number one. This
is your baby, Your baby's number one.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Number one. Man, this is number one is crazy, I
believe at forty years old, and I'm crazy starting.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
So good for you though, Yeah, man, how many they have?
I have three? They just came home. As my dogs
are barking, I'm like, I'm like buried in my you know,
you're in every house, there's a room that's supposed to
be a room of some kind, but it turns into
a storage room. Yes, you know, it's just shit everywhere.
Speaker 3 (03:31):
Yeah, and so.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
When my kids come home, you know, I've got nowhere
to go because I've got nowhere to go. So now
I'm in the storage room. Yeah, I'm eighteen, I have
fifteen and I have twelve.
Speaker 3 (03:45):
Amazing. Man, that's incredible. That's amazing.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
And it's it's nutty. How you feeling. How's it feel?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
I feel good. It's funny, like I feel like sometimes
I'm like in the you know, I'm doing things and
then I look over and I see my pregnant wife.
Your beautiful belly is starting to hop crazy. He her
belly button. Just yesterday, I just noticed it started to
starting to kind of.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Like spread out a little bit, and I was.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Like, whoa, you know, felt the baby kick. Actually, at
the time I felt the baby kick, we were watching
f one in the movie theater and it was really loud.
I was like, man, maybe okay, and then Hailey was like,
hey feel and you know, the baby's like hey, keep
it down out there.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Yeah yeah, but it was.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
It's amazing. Man, I'm excited about it. I'm excited.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
I bet, I bet. How do you have any fear? Honestly? Like,
is there any fear? Or is it just kind of
like you know what, I'm gonna roll with it.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
Like, here's the thing. As I've gotten older, I've realized
that I'm I'm a worrier. I worry, and I never
really considered myself like that. But after Haley had her
you know, her brain surgery. Yeah, I think it just
amplified everything a little bit where I'm a little bit
(04:59):
more or like cautious. You know, there was a moment
when we're about to go on tour, the day that
we're about to go back out on tour after she
you know, forty percent of her school is missing. You know,
she's got this massive plate in her head. She wasn't
supposed to survive. We're about to go on tour, We're
dancing together. I'm already a nervous wreck, and I just
hear a boom in the shower and she had full
(05:23):
slipped back and fell in the shower. And I look
over and she's like this and she's like it's okay,
I caught myself. And I'm like, and it's weird. That
moment kind of just as like this to this day.
When I get out of the shower, I like, squeeze
you the floor, make sure the dope soper conditioner on it.
(05:45):
But I'm like already like paranoid about that. So now
I'm like okay with the child. Yeah, I have twenty
twenty five nieces and nephews, and I am like, you know,
covering corners.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
You've done it, yeah, I know you you you've done
it right, You've done the nieces and the nephews, you know.
But that that there's always the first one's always nutty
because you just wanted to survive, you know what I mean.
It's just like, holy shit, what am I doing? You know,
in the infant stages anyway, you know, I remember with
wild or my first one. You're just so you know,
(06:19):
there's a paranoia, there's love and there's paranoia. It's all mixed.
All emotions are just mixed together. You know, you're walking,
You're going in there every night, like making sure the
kid is breathing. Oh my god. And then by the
third one, it's just kind of like, okay, I'm sure
she'll be fine. I'm sure she'll be fine. You know.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Yeah, you got this, you got this here.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
Well, I mean, luckily, like you know, we have a
lot of friends and a lot of people who are like, okay,
this is what you need. You need like, you know,
if you need like to sleep a little bit more
night nurse thing, yeah, yeah, which is amazing because I
think back to, like, you know, my parents, our parents.
I'm sure, yeah, I mean my mom had five kids.
I'm like, oh, a night nurse, Like what is that?
(06:57):
You know? And you know, so so I feel fortunate
that we're able to find a little bit of maybe
some relief. We'll see, but I think I'm still gonna
be up, like freaking of course.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Of course, so with your wife. Man, that's crazy, that's right.
I forgot about that when that shit went down. I mean,
that is a scary, scary moment for you guys. What
was it do? How is it even recognize?
Speaker 3 (07:22):
We were on stage, we were on stage in front
of four thousand people, and we were at the end
of the show, and she just was kind of doing
this with her eye, like she's kind of like squinting,
and she's like and then she starts like she, you know,
audibly was making discomfort, you know, noises, like, and I
(07:44):
thought it was her neck because you know, this is
like a yeah, and so I'm protecting her neck as
we're dancing and we're just kind of keep moving forward
and you know, show must go on kind of thing,
and just protecting her and then we're supposed to come
out for this moment and she didn't come out, and
I was like, that's weird, and the stage manager she's
not coming out. I was like, okay, and then I
(08:04):
just you know, you're in front of this audience, so
you're just kind of like talking insane things. And the
irony of it all was that in that moment, I'm
talking about a friend of mine that passed away, and
I'm talking about how fragile and precious life is and
how it's fleeting, and you know that we cherish the
ones that we love, and and meanwhile she's literally dying
on the side of the stage.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Like actually, in that moment, like it was that.
Speaker 3 (08:28):
Bad, it was that acute that she was at that
point having seizures and she doesn't remember anything she was
she was on stage, and then she's you know, all
this crazy scary stuff happened, the ambulance rushed into the hospitals,
all these different things, and here's a crazy fact. Actually
later on, First of all, the doctor was like, you know,
(08:52):
it's not good. It's very severe, and even if she survives,
because it's that bad, she's she probably isn't gonna be
the same person that you know, because you know this
kind of brain bleaed, this kind of swelling, paralysis, speech
compairamid you know, all these different things. So basically you've
(09:12):
lost the person that you knew. And we just got married,
by the way, three months three months before that. But
the crazy story about this, you know, fortunately she's here.
Everything was we had these amazing triumphs. But you know,
I talked about that time because it was like the
hardest time and one of the best times ever because
all of a sudden everything gets kind of wiped clean,
(09:33):
and all of a sudden, her getting up to go
to the bathroom was like the best day of my life,
you know what I mean. It was like, this is
the best day of my life. And then her like
walking up the stairs was like the biggest triumph I've
ever felt. So there's all these amazing like triumphs that
you experience and the simplest of things, and then working
her way back out to get on stage. And but
(09:54):
the crazy thing was real fast was when we were
at the theater, we had a decision to make there's
a hospital ten minutes away in Washington, DC, and there
was a hospital thirty five minutes away. Obviously we're like,
let's go to the closest hospital because this is bad.
She's something's not good. And her eyes were dilated, one
(10:15):
was was huge, one was pinpoint. So it was either
a stroke or something brain related. So we in that
moment we decided to go to the further hospital that
was more about brain but we didn't know and basically
down the line, about six months later, the doctor told me,
he said, if you would have went to the other hospital,
she would have she would have died really, yeah, and
(10:38):
because they didn't have they didn't have the resources, they
didn't have the things to do the emergency surgery, and
by the time they got her somewhere, it would have
been too late. So it's like, it's like things. It's
like things like that.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You're was like, was it was it an aneurysm?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
No, we actually we don't know exactly what happened, really,
but we think we do. At the beginning of that show,
we actually hit heads really hard, but we've hit hard,
we've hit heads hard before. There's nothing out of the ordinary,
but we but our bells were wrong, yeah, and we
both were kind of looking at each other. But we
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think that's what it was because that's the kind of
you know, the human toomea was is an impact. It
wasn't like so luckily in a way. Luckily it was
that because we know what happened and it's not going
to happen again all of a sudden.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Yeah, Wow, what an experience, man, what an experience. You know.
I mean, it's so interesting going back to what you said,
which is, you know, usually you know, the person who
goes through that situation and has to sort of relearn
to walk or those small victories that you're talking about,
and how life becomes clear and perspective starts to sort
(11:52):
of show itself in a beautiful way. It's usually attributed
to the person who had happened to but we don't
really hear about sort of the loved ones, you know,
and how you yourself had that moment as well, meaning
your perspective changed, things shifted for you. You know, life
(12:12):
was sort of like you said, the slate was white,
was wiped clean, and and it was like, wow, it's
it's these small things now that matter.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
Yeah, I mean, it's it was you know. She she
talked about this because she basically was on stage. She blinked,
and then she woke to the hospital like what happened
and missing half her skull and head shaved and you know,
face swelled up, was unrecognizable and seventy staples in her
(12:41):
head and and so she missed. She essentially missed like
this the scary part if you will, you know, And
so she actually we actually, by the way, we actually
filmed the documentary about this. He did, and we just
actually submitted it to Sundance like three days ago.
Speaker 2 (12:59):
Amazing.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
But a good friend of mine, his name is Jason Berg,
you know, he's like amazing director, does documentaries, and he
when we started to go to dance again, he's like, hey, Cannect,
come film this the process because for her dancing again.
And so anyway, if we ended up doing it, we
went back on tour. She got back out on stage.
It was this beautiful, like triumphant moment. It was really beautiful.
(13:21):
And but but she really, honestly like the way she
moved to this whole thing was unbelievable. Man, she could
a smile on her face. There was no like poor me,
It was just this is my new reality, this is
what it is. And she was really strong for us, you.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
Know, yeah crazy. So how long was it before she
re cut before like an incident, and then recovery and
she's dancing again.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Well that was the miraculous part because the doctor was like,
we're it's going to take four or five months to
just get the implant in because your brain is so
swelled up. They had to leave the skull off. Yeah
for a while. Well he said it. He said it
was gonna be for a while. Yeah, And she literally
looked at him and she's like, I'm gonna do it
two weeks. He's like, uh, huh, okay, you know three
(14:06):
months at least, dude, two weeks to the day we
took the helmet off and he gasped. He went He
was like looking at her like confused, like wait what
because obviously the skull concaves and she's got this massive
crater in her head, you know, now the brain's come down.
And he goes, oh my god, I can't believe this.
And he said, I said, well, what do you think.
(14:29):
Can we operate you know, tomorrow? He goes, no, it's like,
can we operate today? Joe goes, how about tomorrow?
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I was like, oh shoot, So wow.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
From the incident to her back on stage was four months.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
Wow, that's crazy.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Yeah, it was pretty extraordinary. And by the way, going
back to being.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
A warrior, yeah yeah, I was. I was like, yeah, yeah,
she's got like a full like NFL helmet on and pads,
like she's like, I don't want to wear this, and like,
I don't care if you're wearing this Eagles helmet.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
But by the way, that that's also the problem though,
is because if you're apprehensive and if you're you're focusing
on what's going to go wrong, you're it's gonna go
wrong because where you focus goes your energy flows, and
like you're focus on the wrong things. And I was like,
she told me that, she goes, Babe, you have to
you have to come, you have to like trust me.
And I was like, oh, okay, okay, yeah yeah, wow yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Crazy dude, crazy, crazy, crazy, but amazing. You know really,
I mean to have gone through something like that, I mean,
even just as far as just a relationship goes, and
the depth where you think you think you're you think
you're deep, and then you just you can dig even
deeper with something like that.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
It's just yeah, no, man, it was. It was. It
was a w We were able to watch this documentary
last week at Uta, this slim screening room, and it
was like it was it was really beautiful. You know,
it was really cool to watch just to sit back
and be like, whoa that was that actually happened? And
then the thing now about it our our child, you know,
(16:02):
on on its way and thinking like wow, they get
to see this moment in mom and dad's life, you know.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
M Yeah, it's pretty cool. So where'd you grow up again? Utah?
You grew up in Utah, Utah man, Yeah, and you
had multiple siblings, fourth sisters grew up in Utah only boy,
(16:30):
you know, where'd you Where were you in the pecking order?
Speaker 3 (16:33):
Three older sisters? Myself and then Julianne. Yeah, okay, yeah,
it was cool surrounded by women, completely surrounded by women. Honestly,
like I found as I got older, I was like,
I find it really hard to talk to guys, Like
it's so much easier to like, I don't know why,
I think growing up, I was like, oh talking to Yeah,
(16:54):
I talked to a guy. I'm like, how did I
do this?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I don't know, that's funny, you know, I wonder how
do you think that actually sort of affected you? You know,
I mean, you grew up with a bunch of sisters.
Like for a while, I just had Mom and Kate
because Dad was out of the picture and Kurt wasn't
there yet. So there's a lot of feminine energy sort
of in my early life, and I, you know, I
can sort of attribute some of my personality to that
(17:23):
and just the way that I my man. I don't know,
maybe some sensitivities, maybe just some empathy. I don't know what,
but I wonder if you can recognize any part of
you that's like, oh well, this is just because I
grew up around eight hundred chicks.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Yeah, so I think for me and later as I
got you know, older, actually, you know, I realized as
you start to learn about certain like you know, feminine
energy and mathe energy and all these different types of
things modalities and stuff, I realized that I definitely lived
(18:00):
in my I actually lived more in my feminine energy,
if you will, which I think served me really well,
and in certain forms of you know, art and you know,
dance and creativity. And however, it's funny, but with dancing dancing,
actually I feel I was the way I like stepped
into my maskuline energy, the way I felt super connected
(18:21):
to my body. Like it's like you know, if you
go play in sports or something like that, you just
feel like you just connected to something. But as I
got older, I was like, oh, interesting, like and I
generally notice it until this guy came into my life.
It was my sister's husband, and he just was like
a dude. He was just a dude because I was
(18:41):
always around like artists and like creatives, and he was
like fish lift weights, and it was there was something
like just like refreshing about like, oh, dang, I think
I've like I need to like balance this out a
little bit and just do some like just stuff that
isn't like in the world of like creating an art
(19:04):
or I just need to like do some just just
some stuff that just feels disconnected to that to get
back into that masculine energy a little bit more and
then to just some it's more balanced.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
What did you do did you actually seek out like
masculine endeavors.
Speaker 3 (19:19):
I mean, it's it's not like it's like it's not
like binary. It's like it's like this is masculine this side.
But but it did I did feel a sense of like,
you know, I don't know, it's just like to do
things that like just felt more grounded. I suppose because
I can get really like, you know, up here and
(19:42):
you know, like in this creative space constantly, and it's
like to turn it off. I gotta do something that's
just like uh that you know.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that's interesting. No, I know,
I know what you mean. You know, it's just sort
of rooting yourself a little bit more in. It's almost
as quiet as your mind sometimes too, you know.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
And are you a nature dude?
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Totally totally are Yeah. Yeah, I love the outdoors, I
mean growing up in Utah.
Speaker 2 (20:12):
Yeah, that's what I figured.
Speaker 3 (20:13):
Yeah, I love I love mountains, and that's that's the
thing that really like keeps me still. And then I
lived in London for ten years, so you did. It's
like city city kid. I went to school there and
then I went back to Utah. Was like, oh shit,
Utah is fricken gorgeous.
Speaker 2 (20:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
I didn't know why. I didn't realize where I was
growing up. This is amazing, you know.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
And what were you doing living in London.
Speaker 3 (20:35):
Twelve years old to twenty two?
Speaker 2 (20:37):
Just were you dancing?
Speaker 3 (20:38):
Yeah? I moved in with my coaches a dance coach did, yeah,
and moved out there by myself.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
At the age of ten.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
You were by yourself like twelve, Yeah, and Julianne was nine.
She went out to like at nineteen years old. And
then but we moved in with the family. Mark Ballas
was on Dancing Stars as well. He was We moved
in with him and his family, his mom and dad.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
How does that work? Man? Like, you're so young, I
mean your parents, how do you? Yeah, how do you
do that? Because they have to raise o their children
as well? Right?
Speaker 3 (21:08):
Well, you know, it was such a it was such
a unique time because my my parents were right getting
a divorce right in that moment, and so that the
house kind of was like this, like it just kind
of started to disjoint a little bit.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
Yeah, so we're.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Kind of floating around a little bit. And also this
opportunity came and then all of a sudden, we had
like school and we had goals, we had competitions, we
had lessons. We had this like sort of like regiment
and like we want to become a champion. So that
consistency and that, I don't know, it just it just
helped us as the young kids, you know. So that's
(21:42):
where we really crafted and we re formed that like
dancing core for so many years and then and honestly,
I thank my mom and dad because that was that
was hard. It was hard to let us go. It
was only supposed to be like a few months, and
then I ended We ended up. And then they're like,
all right, time to come home.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
And I was like, no, oh really, yeah, You're like
now we're staying. I'm staying.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Yeah. I was like I'm about to. I had this
a competition come up, I got a train, I gotta
be here and do this. And for ten years it
was like this fight. Just I wanted to stay and
they wanted me to come home because like can I
raise you? You're my child, you know. And now now
when I see Likenis and nephews, I was like, I
was that young. I was twelve years old.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
Yeah, shit, my daughter's twelve. And I mean I can't
even imagine. I mean I would that would be I
would be crushed.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Yeah, and so and so I actually have a lot
of like later in life, I just have a lot
of like empathy and appreciation for the sacrifice that you know,
they both had and yeah, you know to allow that,
you know, essentially because it was a big sacrifice.
Speaker 1 (22:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
No, my daughter's obsessed with dance. You know, it's their
first their first year. She's on the team dance team
at her at her school, and so she's dancing like
six days a week, you know, two or three of
the days like three hours. You know. It's all different
kinds of dances, lyrical to jazz, to hip hop, the
whole thing. And so she'll start competing in November. But
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she's just obsessed. And she's so beautiful, her body so beautiful,
she's so long, and it's just like, I mean, it's
for me. The pride that you have is just unbelievable.
And to watch her and how graceful and amazing she
is and.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
I love that matter. But by the way, it was
so great about dance, was so great about dance. And
I'll say this again, a class, if I'm teaching a class,
and like it doesn't matter if like you know, there'll
be some people they'll be you know, kids in a class,
and some this is like what they want to do,
this is a career and that they'll take that path.
And some this will be a chapter in the life
and they'll have a lot of different things, but it's
never ever, ever, ever wasted because the discipline, the awareness,
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all these things that you learn, you will take with
you for the rest of your life, no matter what.
So I always encourage.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
You know, Oh yeah, you know what I love most too.
I love I love how I love how strict these
teachers are. Yeah, it's like the only place now because
I think we're just being coddled to death, you know,
just generally sure, But it's the only place now where
like that discipline you can stern. It's like, you know,
(24:21):
Rieo's in the car doing her hair with the hairsprakes.
It's ballet, and if hair's out of place, they get
mad at you. I mean, you know, not overly crazy,
but I'm saying there's a discipline there. It's like, get
your shit together. You know, girls, this isn't working You're
not practicing enough. It's not working out. You have to
be better.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah. I think it's great, man. I think having that guidance.
And like you said, I love what you said too,
because it is true. We're sort of in this sort
of you know, the sort of like interesting phase or
balance of like Okay, what's too hard, what's too strict
mm hmm, but what's not strict enough, Like it's like
find that right balance. But I think that it is
(25:01):
important to have that sort of standard and those like
sort of like perimeters to work with them. This couldn't
find because I feel like, you know, if it just
becomes I'm all about encouraging, I'm all about like sure
but of course, but that but that, But I look
back at my teaching and my time, I'm like, it
was the times when I was like taken to the
(25:22):
corner being like, hey, you better and told off. That's
that's when I was like, oh and I figured it out,
you know.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
Of course. But by the way, its also because you're
that good, like you're you're too good to just wait
to just fuck off essentially, you know.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, no, that's awesome. I love that, man, I love yeah.
Speaker 2 (25:39):
Yeah, it's great. It's fun. It's fun for me too.
It's just my only kid who who's actually regimented in
some sort of athletics into a sport. You know. My
boys are they down they ski, they downhill, mountain bike,
they're on dirt bikes, you know, motorcycles, this, this, and that.
They're heavily into golf now but it's all individual stuff, right.
They didn't want to play team. You know, there was
(26:00):
no competition. So she's my she's my first and only
one now that is competing, and you know she has
that sort of fire when you when.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
You say competing. Is it a part of the school
team competition?
Speaker 2 (26:12):
No, school, it's a studio. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Oh so did you go to a convention?
Speaker 2 (26:17):
Yes, she went to a convention last weekend. She was
in at a convention.
Speaker 3 (26:22):
Car got you got you cool? Cool?
Speaker 2 (26:24):
All right?
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Awesome. No. The reason why I say that because I'm
literally about to launch a convention competition you are in December. Yeah,
it's called Ovation.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
Oh that's cool.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Yeah, so it's sort of the first it's gonna be
like a sort of a fusion convention competition with like
contemporary Yeah, Ballerman, Latin.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Where are you doing it?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
We're doing seven cities the first year. First ones in
Chicago in December. Yeah, and then we'll do like you know,
Miami and New York, and then of course Anaheim, Plifornia,
and then San Diego.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
That's where Rio is an Anaheim for this car thing.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
Yeah, well, dude, this isn't you guys? Do you guys
should come down. It's it's really it's giving me really
really really Oh yeah, Tolly Favia. You know Robbie Blue
who's done like the commercial.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
He just won an Emmy and in a VMA he's
he's one of the teachers as well.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Like, yeah, dude, sick.
Speaker 3 (27:21):
Pretty sick.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
Yeah. Oh fun? Yeah, man, so great dude, yeah, will
I will for sure. So so what how how do
you get off on dancing? You know what I mean?
What is it? What is the thing? You know? I
mean I kind of understand because you know, singing, moving
(27:42):
your body. I mean there's something that is special about that.
You know, there's something that's exhilarating about it. But like what,
how does it still give you a boner? You know,
like what is that thing where you're just like, God,
damn it, I just love it so much.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, man, it's
it's an I have an interesting relationship with dance now
in a way because you know, here's the thing as
it's evolving, it's evolving. Yeah, because when I competed as
a dancer, I loved it, but it was very much
like I was training. And but I will say this.
(28:18):
I will say this as like the thing that I
love most about it is when I'm actually dancing performing
like a go on torn I'm dancing. Yeah, I truly
feel like the most It sounds cheesy, like connected, I
feel connected to myself because I do have a busy
ass brain in my brain. But when I'm just dancing
(28:39):
and the music and the music sinks up and your
body sync up together and they're doing this, you just
like you start sounds silly, but like I just like
start like like things hard and strong, and then I'm
I'm meaning to shape myself. The bass, you feel the
drums hit it, that all of that, It just makes
(29:00):
you feel super just like here and just present and.
Speaker 2 (29:05):
I'm feeling it right now. When you're explaining that, yeah damn,
I'm like, yeah, I wish I could feel that way.
Speaker 3 (29:11):
No, that's the thing. But on the flip side of that, though,
we to do the creation process can be fucking torture.
Like you're just like you're like, oh my god, I
have no ideas and what is this and this isn't
good enough? And oh my, you know, there's this expectation,
like you know, you've won four Emmys and people are
(29:32):
looking at you like, come on, man, like you're supposed
to be good. Ah, you know, those spirits have to
creep in, and I start to get a little bit
my head about things and sometimes that sort of over
analysis equals paralys type of thing, you know. But but
so it's an interesting relationship where when I'm doing it
m hm, right, got it, but creating it can sometimes be.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
Like yeah, well it's so I mean when you have
a partner too, there it is so intimate, especially depending
on what kind of dances you're doing, you know what
I mean. And you know, it's a it's an interesting
it's an interesting gig. I know, you're married and all
this stuff, but like you're marere to do a dancer.
I mean, when you were connected like that with someone
(30:15):
and you're flying and you're in sync, there's something so
like sexy and romantic and about it all, you know,
And then but you have to kind of separate yourself
from all that ship I well.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
There is and there isn't because like when you dance
and when you've grown up dancing and do it, you
can I mean you might watch it and be like
oh my gosh, yeah, energy between them. But then I
might be like, oh, there's no, there's no energy there.
That was just that's just that's that's just that, that's
just the movement, the dancing. It's like a very definitely
(30:45):
separate the two.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Especially when you're dancing. You dance with your sister too, right,
I mean, oh yeah, yeah, you know, so that's like
what's up with that? And that's a whole other thing,
you know, and way, but that's that's the thing.
Speaker 3 (30:56):
That's the thing is like for me, you know, from
the outside looking in, when you watch me dancing, like
it feels really intimate in that kind of way, mm hmm.
But for us as dances, it's really not. It's just
like you're you're we're like focused on the mechanics and
we're focusing on like stretching, and like, you know, there's
so many, so many things going on in our brain
(31:19):
about certain things that we're not even thinking about, like
you know, the you know what I mean, there's too
much going on in our brains. But yeah, man, it's
it's uh, it's but on Dancing with the Stars, I
will say, you know, you get somebody coming out coming
in there, you know, and all of a sudden, they're
like learning from you.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
And of course, I mean, like the think how many
relationships there's been from Dancing with the Stars, only that's
what those are the ones that we've heard. I mean,
you know, I mean, I'm sure you have all kinds
of dirt about the ship that no one knows about
that goes on, that went on for the billions of
seasons of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Oh, by the way, my favorite is there's this whole
wave of new you know, it's the numb Umber one
show on TV, which is insane.
Speaker 2 (32:01):
It's crazy, it will not stop.
Speaker 3 (32:04):
It's insane. It's like this whole new life, the whole
new fan base and this holyw fan base. They've only
been watching it for like two years, and there's eighteen
years of this lore, if you will, that they like
they're trying to like re learn and hear about. And
I'm like, oh, the stuff you'll hear about is maybe
ten percent of what actually went on.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
Oh yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
It's crazy, man, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
It's crazy. You're right, though, You're right, because you have
two professionals together. They've been doing it all their lives.
They understand the game, they understand the dance, so to speak.
When you have these sort of celebrities or these Dancing
with the Star's contestants coming in who are now you know,
connected like that and feeling things and moving their body
with someone as they've never moved it before. Yeah, there's
(32:48):
something that is intoxicating about that. There's no doubt.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Yeah, there's it's interesting. And listen, it doesn't always like
it doesn't always like turn into something or anything now, right,
but but you know it is. It's a unique experience
to feel guided in something and like you're like, oh,
I'm at your mercy kind of thing, and it's it's
in a good way, you know what I mean. In
(33:13):
a way it's like, oh, I get to actually be
taught something and it immersed in something every day, seven
days a week, six hours a day. Like when was
the last thing you ever got to do that?
Speaker 2 (33:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like never, never. It's such a unique experience. And I
think that I think who I said this to. I
said this one of the contestants the other day because
they were saying like, oh, yeah, I'm really tired about
them trying to pins again against each other, and unless
I said, well, listen, you have to save this moment
because one it's gonna be over like that. And two,
(33:48):
you're never going to experience them like this ever. Again,
It's just just won't. You'll have other amazing opportunities and
other amazing experiences, but you will never like have this
sort of intense focus on something for this many hours
a day, for seven days a week, and then show
it something new every week in front of millions of people.
(34:08):
It's such a it's such a unique thing that you
just need a savor it. Man.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
You need to say, oh, yeah, they asked I think
a few years back. I think I was We're doing
a show for ABC. They asked me to do it,
and I was too scared. I'm like, I can't. That's
too scary for me. Dude, Like I can't go dance
in front of people. Yet I'm not right scary.
Speaker 3 (34:30):
I have Anybody's out there, like, whoever is crazy enough
to get to put themselves through this is like, yeah,
it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Man. How is it being a judge? You know? And
what kind of a judge are you? Can you give
it to him? Can you be like?
Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know what I mean, I'm gonna be I'm be
honest with you. I'm being honest with you I again,
because I've been in that position, you know, like I
really like I have a lot of respect and a
lot of like empathy and like hey, hey, like you're
doing good. You got there. And which is interesting because
of course, Lenn Goodman, who was you know, our head
judged for so many years. Listen, people would not have
(35:17):
survived the last few years. I mean we look back
at some of the comments and the things that they
had said. Ye were unbelievable and they were for me,
they were fantastic because it was just like shocking. Now
I will say this, it's interesting being a judge because
you know, I'll try to be I try to be encouraging.
(35:37):
I try to be you know, supportive, and also give
some practical notes that they can actually work on the
next week. That's what that's what I would want to hear.
Give me some clarity, like what do I need to
work on? You know. I try to give those notes
in fifteen seconds, which is the partest part, which sometimes
nothing comes out. I was just like, yeah, great job,
you know. But it's fun though, because being a judge
(36:02):
is not a popular position to be because you can
say something to somebody and then one person says, oh
my gosh, you're so mean. I hate you. Oh gosh,
I hate you. Yeah, the same comment below that will
be like you're too soft and like you're too nice,
like so you're just like you.
Speaker 2 (36:24):
Can't waitin dude, no, you can't win, and you just
be you. That's it. That's it.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
By the way, you know, I've had some producers say like, hey,
can you, like, you know, get in a little bit more,
And I'm like, guys, I'm gonna be honest with you.
I'm gonna be me because if I if I try
to be something I'm not, first of all, people are
gonna smell it my million, and it's gonna look it's
gonna look really like tacky. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
No, it's true. Yeah. You know if all of a
sudden you're like that was shit, Like wait a minute,
what Yeah, because they always always want, you know, the
I all of judges to have their you want want
the ones like direct and honest, then the ones that's
sort of soft and sweet, you know.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Yeah. Yeah, I'm trying to I try to be like practical. Yeah,
that's my that's my angle, if you will.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Yeah, And then extra is this is this a new
This is a new gig sort of right.
Speaker 3 (37:19):
You're three weeks in, three weeks in, yeah, yeah, three
weeks in.
Speaker 2 (37:24):
It's this is a great gig, though, you.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Know what it's It's crazy because when they first came
to me about it, I was like, I was like what.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (37:34):
I was like, nah, I don't seem doing that. And
then I was like thinking about it. I was first
I was thinking about having a baby, and I was like, okay, hey,
it's twenty minutes away. Yeah, okay, I'll be done at
twelve or one o'clock. I was like, yep, okay, that's
kind of fun. And and then of course I'm also
just a fan. I'm like a huge fan of movies.
I love music, I love I love you know, I'm
(37:56):
in then saying business, I love it. And so being
able to interview certain people and get to communicate with
them and talk with them, and it is really cool.
But I so much respect already three weeks in for
you know, Terry Seymour, who I've known for twenty years,
you know, and interviewing people and talking with them, it's
(38:17):
like such a skill. So I'm excited about exercising this
different muscle my first week as far as the interviews go.
My first week was like Margaret Robbie the Rock and Blunt,
like Jessica Chef Stay, we saw the Spoonship. I was like,
I was like, shit, guys in the first week, Oh no,
(38:37):
that's hard. It was great though, because the one they
were all really gracious, is really kind and wonderful. But
I definitely felt like, you know, I learned a lot
of different moment you know things in there. But there's
a lot of the best moments that came out of those.
But the moments that I like, there were genuine questions
that I actually that I wanted to ask.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
That wasn't like, you know, from the car or you know.
Speaker 3 (39:00):
Yeah, so that was like a good indicator. Was like, okay, cool,
Like I need to just like trust my instincts in
those ways. But I will say that the biggest learning
curve is in the vos, right, bro, I'm in there
and I'm like, first of all, I'm start reading it
and you know, his name is Caesar. He's in there.
(39:20):
He's like, hey, try like he's like a little more
energy here, like more.
Speaker 2 (39:24):
Energy coming up with dad.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
And I was like, are you sure I sound like
a I saw like a Muppet or something.
Speaker 2 (39:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
But then then you see it in context Sack and
the clips, and I was like, wow, I'm actually not
doing enough. Yeah. So then I'm in there now the
setup was like sitting down doing it at the videos.
Now I'm standing up. I have a thing up here,
and I'm like, I'm like, we got I'm like, I'm
(39:58):
like dancing in there like a crazy person. But it's wild, man,
that's funny.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
No, it's so true. It's so so true, dude.
Speaker 3 (40:08):
It sounds crazy, but it is funny. There's a lot
of moments in there where like it goes something something
in Oliver Hudson and then that goes up and I
just I just I'm literally feel like Ron Burgundy and
I'm like, I'm like, is that I mean about that?
They like trust us? And then it goes into the clip.
I'm like, oh, that sounds correct. So my grandpa was
(40:30):
a radio DJ in Spokane, Washington and uh one of
the few guys who actually got Elvis to come up
with him and did a radio base is a picture
of him. So when I was in there, I was
kind of like I was kind of like channeling my
grandpa a little bit, like just like kind of that
radio voice, you know, and yeah, it was kind of
a cool, cool little moment. But that's that's been a
(40:51):
big learning curve. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Did you just get a call like, hey, Derek, like
any interest in and do an extra?
Speaker 3 (40:59):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, simple, it was just a cold call.
And I was like, I was like, I was like,
I don't think so. And then I went and met
with them and then we just were talking. I was like, yeah,
that could be kind of fun, okay, all right, and
then and then it was literally like a cool I
said yes. And then I think like three four days
(41:19):
later like cool, You're going in with Margot, Robbie and
Colin Fare.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
I was like wow. I was like, shit, how do
you what's the prep on something like that? You know?
Is it just you get the questions. It's it's pretty
it's pretty basic.
Speaker 3 (41:33):
You know obviously the questions about the film, yeah, you know,
and all that stuff.
Speaker 2 (41:36):
Of course, and it's a proper sit down, right, it's
like that sit down.
Speaker 3 (41:40):
Oh dude, that's the other part of it, is the
press junket thing. Yeah, so oh yeah, I don't know
about that stuff. So I go, you know, you go
to the Four Seasons, you go in there and you
check in and and first of all, you sit down
in a dark hallway and like in a in a
row on these chairs and they're all sitting there. I'm like, guys,
(42:00):
and you were just going one by one, waiting your
turn and going for eight minutes and then like I mean,
and they just jesus. It was dude, I feel like
a little kid going up the first day of school.
I was like this, this is terrifying.
Speaker 2 (42:14):
Hell yeah, especially four days after. Yeah, I'll do this gig.
Here's Margot, Robbie and Colin for like, all right, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
Yeah I go and then like, yeah, be better. And
I already said that. I think I said to him
was like, hey, by the way, this is my first interview.
They're like shut up, They're like what like So anyways,
it was it was cool, man, But I learned. I've
learned a lot. It's been really neat and uh, like
I said before, I've been really fortunate because it's kind
(42:40):
of nice too, is that some of these some of
these people have they know they know me kind of
in some way or indirectly, and some someone like.
Speaker 2 (42:48):
We're channing exactly.
Speaker 3 (42:49):
Yeah, like oh bro, we were dancing at that Halloween
party years ago. Like right, so it kind of is
nice to break the ice a little bit.
Speaker 2 (42:56):
And well, I think that's why you're such a great hire,
you know, I mean for a million different reasons. But yes,
you have relationships. You've been in Hollywood long enough now
you have relationships with a lot of these people. So
it's not just some sort of interviewer talking head where
it's it's like, oh yeah, dude, like what's up. I mean,
there's a comfortability that happens when being interviewed by someone
who you you know, yeah, yeah, no.
Speaker 3 (43:18):
For sure, for sure. Man. It's uh, it's so it's
been cool. It's been cool. But again, it's like a
lot of I will say this. It's funny that there's
some moments when I'm talking about some things and I'm like,
oh no, I don't want to talk about that.
Speaker 1 (43:31):
I know, but you're like it's okay, you know whatever.
Speaker 2 (43:36):
Yeah, oh i'd be I think i'd be fired because
I'd go down a weird rabbit hole, you know what
i mean. I'd go way off the questions, be like
wait a minute, you just said this, and then all
of a sudden we're off on a different tangent.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Well, by the way too. Even just like yesterday we were like,
you know, Channing Channing Tatium and Kristen Dunn's for Ruthman,
and you know, we're talking and I have, you know,
like eight questions prepared, all these things and characters and
and we just talked about parent advice basically because you
have eight minutes, and you're, oh, that's it. Oh my gosh,
(44:07):
I asked one question.
Speaker 2 (44:09):
Well, dude, it sounds like you've been amazing. Congratulations on
the baby coming and all of your successes, and it's
been great to talk to you. And thank you for
taking the time.
Speaker 3 (44:18):
Man, I know your course, brother, I appreciate you. Man,
Thank you so much. Man.
Speaker 2 (44:22):
Yeah, take it easy, man, you.
Speaker 3 (44:23):
See your brother, take care man, all right later.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
What a handsome dude, huh. Just hair's perfect, beard's perfect,
baby blues shining through, just clean cut, bang bang. I
got ten years on him, I know. But look at me,
Look at me, you know, I you know, I look
like I don't know what I look like. I look
like a man that was just found in a dumpster,
(44:51):
you know, who was just sort of taking off the
street giving headphones in a mic You know what, though
I am handsome in my own way, do you hear that, Derek,
I'm handsome in my own way. Just because you're glowing
(45:11):
and I'm Matt doesn't mean that you're better than me,
all right, ending bye a
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