April 19, 2023 • 49 mins
It's the first sibling catch-up episode of the season! Kate and Oliver reunite to discuss big moments from the last year, health anxiety, small talk, parenting teens, and much more.
Executive Producers: Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson
Produced by Allison Bresnick
Edited by Josh Windisch
Music by Mark Hudson
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling. You don't
do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey, it's me Hi. So I thought I had a
heart attack last night? What I thought I was having one?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wait, this happened to me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was now granted I was, it's about you just
then it could be about you in a second. But
I smoked. I smoked some married juwan Juan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, this is why you were having But I never
had heart attack.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But I've been having a little bit of an anxiety lately.
It's another topic of conversation. But smoked the weed, and
all of a sudden, my left arm started to hurt.
Oh no, I was running hard yesterday. I was. I
played a lot of golf in the last few days,
so it normally would have just felt like a little
pinch nerve right. But then all of a sudden, my
(01:21):
mind switches to, oh my god, is this the start
of something? So now I start googling, you know, the
WebMD vibes like, what does this feel like? So I
went down the path and then took like half a
bottle of advil and it went away.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So also, your wife did just get her calcium thing,
so that might have been also in the back, so
she went into all her hard stuff. Yes, I'm actually
going today to get my calcium scan.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, you thought you were having a heart attack too, No,
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had this weird thing.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I woke up in the middle of the night and
I felt like an over whelming kind of it was
almost like I was I woke up sort of shocked
out of my mid like deep sleep into what felt
like I was about to lose consciousness. So I was
like I woke up and then I was like, oh,
(02:16):
I'm going to faint. And then I didn't know what
was going on, and I felt really like kind of
dizzy and weird, and I was like, oh my god,
what's happening. And then I also had been having some anxiety, but.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Not like this. And then so I immediately.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was like, Danny, you know, take me to the hospital,
like right now, I don't know what's going on. And
on the way to the hospital, I felt like I
was going to lose consciousness and I had this feeling like,
oh my god, I'm I'm I'm literally dying.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm going to die.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I didn't understand, but I was like, just get
to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Get to the hospital. Get to that. I was like,
it was almost like hold on, like in of my
own brain and like.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hold on, hang on, you can make it. I can
make it. Get to the hot and I was like,
Danny was like, what's going on. I'm like, I couldn't.
I couldn't communicate at the time what I was feeling
because I just needed to focus on staying.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
In a faint. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I was taking these deep breaths and I was like,
I'm I'm literally about to like just either like like
close my eyes and like that's it, or I'm a faint.
I don't know what's going on. Really scary. I then
get to the hospital and I really have to go
to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And then I'm like and then I'm like I got
to I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I was like, these guys, thanks for letting me.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Is your toilet now?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I then have to go to the restroom.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I then go through a series of things that's feeling
really weird and then I had all this anxiety because
I was like, it was like, for me, it was
all heart.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Of our family.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Obviously it's all heart. So you have a little bit
of anxiety right anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And an aneurism because Grandpa, Yeah, you know, like I
did this Instagram post a while back. You know it
was made of red light, and I just I have
this feeling. I was, I have this feeling when you
get that little pain in your head and it's like
just waiting for me to die. I'm waiting for me
to die. It's gonna happen. And I'm like I'm gonna
I'm like, I'm gonna pull over the side of the
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road so I don't kill anyone if I actually do,
you know, And you're like that that sharp pain.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That now, that little pain, I know we all get them.
That's actually more occipital nerve stuff. But anyway, So so
I get to the hospital, they do a ton of
tests on me.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was like, just do them. I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And then I get home and I feel fine, and
I was like, wow, that was really intense.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I get home, I.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Realized, I don't know, this is so embarrassing, but I'm
actually going to allow this to be on the show.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, I get home.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I really that I had taken Smooth Move, but instead
of taking it at like eight o'clock before you go
to bed, I took it at like five thirty. Yeah,
and it takes like a good ten hours for it
to tea.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's a tea. It's a it's a tea that has
senna in it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It has exactly you know, it has this thing in
it that helps you kind of regulate and go to
the bathroom, and and I take it every once in
a while.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm like, it's great. I love it. Who doesn't love
smooth Move? It was just not so smooth? So I
what happened?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Then I looked it up, and then Danny, of course,
being mister researchers, like did you take anything? And I
at the time I was like I don't know, no, no,
And then I was like, oh no, I did.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was just at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
We just went through like all of these different doctors
being like, what else did you take?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I get home, I'm like, oh no, I took smooth
Move and it has senna in it, which if you
haven't eaten a lot in the in that day, which
I ended up not eating that much that night because
I was it was late and I was like, I
don't want to eat too much too lakes and I
can't sleep well.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I had not eaten.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I had the Senna and then I took like a
like all these gummy vitamins before I went like, I
took like a like omega, you know, like a couple
like an hour before.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I just had this crazy weird it's like.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
A vitamin reaction.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, And I thought, yeah, but I really needed to
go to this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So it was a hypochondria runs in the fa I
mean in our family if there's a genetic understand if
there's a genetic component.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean even Ronnie has like she's like, mom, there's
something wrong with my little middle toe.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
No, I know. It was same with Wilder. Yeah, you know,
same with not real but body a little bit, you know.
But but it's is it does it run in the family.
Is it a learned behavior or is it mostly a component.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't have the answer to this, but but I
would my gut is it has learned behavior. I think so,
and that there are some kids have a little obviously
more like anxiety or fear than others healthy. I was
talking to someone about their kids and they're both doctors,
and the mother has a great way of dealing with
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their kids' ailments. She does this thing where she decided
the narrative around it was, I know, you know, we
sometimes are tummy hurts and it's just a feeling and
then it goes away. So instead of it being like
something's going to make it feel better, it's like understanding
that our body goes through different cycles and things sometimes ache,
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we have pains, and that they're normal.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
There doesn't mean that something's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I was like, oh see, I never did that
with my kids. It was always like, if they feel sick,
I want to make it better.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We're going to do this.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's going to make it better. And it's like I
never like assured them that they were fine. Yeah, you know,
this is normal. You're just feeling something and then that
feeling will go away. And I was like, Oh, that's
so good because then you're teaching their brain the right
things happen.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I started to think that, like, it's funny you say
because I tell them that, but completely selfishly, I tell
them that everything's going to be okay for my own
my own anxiety, It's true. I'm like, oh, dude, you're fine,
You're fine. You know, your stomach heurt's super cramped up.
Like it's fine, it's fine, it's just food. But really,
I'm telling myself that because the way I react to
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my kids when they have an ailment, I have a
bit of a panic mode and I almost get angry
or want it to be okay so badly that sometimes
I get at them, yeah you know what I mean,
like you're fine and meanwhen I'm like, oh my god,
I do fine, this is fine, I.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Don't know, yeah, you know, yeah, no, I know exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I have anxiety triggers. It's it's it's like having it
triggers your It's like it's like it's like someone who
has the worst gag reflex of all time, Like my like,
I have anxiety reflex, like beyond anything. I feel any
little ailment immediately the adrenaline opens up. I'm like this,
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I mean immediately, and it scares me, you know, I know,
but these are scares me because I worry about what
would happen if something really was to go down that
I had to sort of protect my family or or
or be in the moment and actually get through it.
Or if I was alone in the woods, would I
just be like just die.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I think about a man. I think being a
man is nothing. I think a manly, I feel like
I manly has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think this like the strength of think about people
who've lost children.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's the most devastating.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You don't want to think about those things, but unfortunately,
these tragedies happened to many. I think about the people
who have their strength and people that I know who've
lost children. I mean, I was reading this article the
other day. This I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
This writer. He wrote about he lost.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Both of his children in a car accident, and he
wrote about it. I think, I said, I read this,
and I've been sending you things that make you cry.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I know, I was on vacation on spring break. It
is beautiful out tropical. Kate sends me this thing that
was just so tragic. I'm like, what are you doing that?
This is awful?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But it wasn't awful.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was it was beautiful, beautiful because it was like,
My point is this that like people either are feeling
things that are so immense there's there having so much anxiety,
they're having so much deep depression that they don't know
who to reach out to or who what their support
system is. Then then you have people who've experienced tragedy
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is like what we're talking about, and are actually living
what your worst nightmare would be and is their worst nightmare,
and they're they're they're learning how to survive. It's it's unfortunate,
but so many people have experienced tragedy, So there's this
large support group of people who've been through it. And
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the one thing that this guy said, who lost both
of his children, he's a writer.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He writes on a big show.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I forget what show it is, but he he basically
woke up. They were driving, the whole family in the car.
They got sideswiped. Next thing they know, they woke up
in a hospital. One child's gone and they are now
leaving one hospital because their other child was not doing
well at another hospital, and within hours they had lost
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both of their children. Husband and wife they survived. Couldn't
be a more tragic story. And and he but he
talks about like refinding the joy in life and how
hard that concept is, and and and and he's so
eloquent about how right now I'm going to be envious.
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I'm gonna be jealous of what you have, and I'm
gonna have to go through all this grief.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But like I need you, huh first one back, first,
one back crying but you.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Know, but but he's so eloquent in the way.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That he communicates, Yeah, how he needs to deal with tragedy.
And I think when you love so huge, you're just
at risk of loss, you are, and and so you
feel everything so huge, you don't want to lose everything.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But we do have to come to a place where
we whether it be through.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Spiritual practice or religion or or even just like a
sense of acceptance or stoicism of recognizing that we are
not here forever. You know, I think that we have
to find that place where we have to accept that we.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Don't know what the next tomorrow is.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And so instead of living with all of the anxiety
or living with all of the fear, like when those
things start to happen, like really searching for gratitude now
so that if the time ever comes where we all
we and look, we will deal with tragedy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Like you know, we're in this pocket right now, where
we still have our parents.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
This is what's scary to me. It's like everything is
so good, yeah, but and it's still be good, of course,
and it's you're just sort of waiting for the shoe
to drop, and you're like, what the fuck, something bad
has to happen. Everything is too perfect, right, But I
think I think Elier, our therapist, would say so much.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So it just so sho is going to the shoe
will drop.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
There will be a shoe and it will drop, and
you know, and and and honestly, I mean this sounds morbid,
but the hope is that it happens in the right time.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That we're lucky, yes, and that we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Or blessed to have these things happen as they're supposed to,
not out of something that feels very tragic. But look,
we've seen our friends go through it. We've seen people
that we admire go through it, and you get through
it and life just goes on. So it really does
again become about how we manage in the moment, and
that's all you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And really, I mean, if you can truly eliminate the
fear of death, I know that's it. Life just way
open it's so I got to imagine not being afraid
of you dying, of anyone around you dying, because it
just is what it is, and of course it's tragic.
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We actually, well, this is the this is the second episode,
but we already recorded all of the season, right, But.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We're doing this retrospectively, right, Danny, Is that right word?
Is that the right way to use that word? A
lot has happened in the year. You know, we haven't
even had You and I haven't sat down and talked
to each other in a while. We haven't, no, not
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not via podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't I haven't.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You don't remember, I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know, we really haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We haven't like sat down and really even gone over anything.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, I know, have you been fine? Great?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Moving on, Oliver, we haven't even talked about like.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Rider in college.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Rider in college.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We haven't talked about We.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Haven't talked about, uh, you know Wilder's first girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh my god, he's got a girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Real deal.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Great, I know there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You haven't talked about your album.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know. Well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Let me just sing a song from your album.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Go for it. Try it.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh god, I can't. But there was one that kept
popping into my head. Good. No, I know, I'm trying
to remember what it was, but I would wake up
sort of singing it. It was in my head. I
don't have it in my head. I can't remember if
it pops into my head.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Off.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Was it a faster up tempo or was it it was.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
More of an up It was more of an up tempo.
I know it driving and it was it was good.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I know what song it is.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's what I'm not going to say it out loud,
but I know what song it is.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah. So there's really there's so.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Much going on.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's so much going on, and yet that's what happens
in life, right, all this stuff that's going on, and
then it's like it just feels like whenever I.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Was like, how you doing, You're like great, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You're like, I mean, well, first of all, I can't
A small talk to me is like the same thing
everything I know, how are you good? How are you great?
Same thing?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I mean if if if if someone asked you how
are you in passing and you really unloaded on them
on how you really felt well.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I decided to do that recently.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Being like I'm okay, you thinks are a little weird
for me, I can't get a job, and they're like,
I'm just I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you actually start doing that with people, you realize
who's like really cool and like really has no interest
in you or your life or really talking to you
that you don't really want, like to connect with. I
started doing that. I was I was sitting with at
one of these events. I was sitting with an actor
who I didn't really know, but I knew him through
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other friends, and we were sitting at this table together and.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He goes, how are you? I said great?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Actually, I and I just started going into my record
and I've been doing this and I and he was
got so excited and.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We started talking about gat.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, a thousand different things. Conversation went into stuff
and kids.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's like, I got three kids. I'm like, are they musical?
Like actually? We just like it went from that. It's like, oh,
this guy's great.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But that's because it was positive. What if someone said
how are you and I'm like, not that great. I
have gout and uh, you know, I'm on medication for cool.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Cool, then it would be someone whould be like you
know that, I know this guy who can help you
with your gout.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I was going to try that from now and how
like how you doing? Like not good? It's not good,
not really really not that good? Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh my god, oh so funny. That's so great. That
was like that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I another actor that I saw one time, who a
long time ago, like I remember saying like, hey, I've
been seeing you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
For a while. How are you?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Was like, it's been really rough, and he was like
dressed up in this weird costume because he's a comedian
and he was like dressed up as a different person.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So and he was like not in your normal everyday life,
like it was in an event.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Of no, it was an event, but he was dressed
up as someone else. So he looked insane okay, And
I was like, how are you?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And he's like, it's been really rough.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I kind of took some time, and I've been up
in the mountains, you know, like trying to figure out
like what's going on my life. And I was like,
I was like, it made me love him even more
because he got really vulnerable. But he looked so silly.
So I was like, oh, this guy's the best at
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a party and he's like so down and like dressed
in some crazy outfit. I think he was like half
naked and some like net outfit too, like he looked.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Speaking of Rider really quickly though, because he has gone away,
have you just completely Do you still think about him
every day?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Every day?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You do every day? And do you wonder what he's doing.
Do you picture him sort of like in his dorm
room or at a bar or whatever. Is it sort
of out of sight, out of mind in any way?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, but we pretty much talk every day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, if he faced he's a mama's boy, you know,
he face times me. He facetimed me today, He's like, mom,
oh my god. So I started playing Octopus's Garden on
the guitar and he's like walking, you know, and I
was like, honey, that's great. I'm like, I have a
I have to get off because I gotta do this
piano thing.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And then and he was like, oh I fine, man.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I was like, well, honey, I got things I gotta do.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I can call you later, you know. And he's like, okay, fine, right, And.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So like he's he's like still very connected.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah. And and do you worry about his safety?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Not in New York, you don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I actually think I'd worry more about his safety if
he was at a school.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where he was in the car all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or where there was a lot of like weather that
he had to deal with, you know what I mean,
I'd be more concerned. I mean like tornadoes and stuff
or yeah, or like blizzards and things where you know
they have to get from eighth A to Z.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And Rider, you know, I wouldn't worry.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think every kid is different, Like Rider, I'd worry
about in that, whereas being I probably wouldn't. Right, Rider,
I love that he's like in the city, he walks everywhere.
It's just you know, they take they either take the
subway or they are gonna you know, they walk like
the blocks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
He probably makes decent choices too.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh yeah, he's not like a bit. I'm not worried
about no, no, no, I'm not worried about him. If anything,
I'm more worried about him, like like staying home and
like want he's a homebody, you know, like oh wow,
but no, but he's great like I and I and
he doesn't do like silly party.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He doesn't go like silly stupid party.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like the New York thing. Makes total sense because I
went to Boulder and there was a million things to
be afraid of.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I told Ryder if he because he was like, I'm
gonna go to Boulder. I'm like, if I won't pay
for your call, I remember, I was like, no, Well,
if you can figure out how to pay to go
to Boulder.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You probably a smart play. Because I went to Boulder,
and you know, it was there was a lot to
be afraid of, meaning people driving, just that college experience
of just dummies, I know.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And also we lost somebody. We lost a camp a
girl that we went to camp with was killed and.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
She was car surfing. Yeah, I mean literally on the
top of a car going down a mountain standing on
the roof of the car.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's so sad, you know, but but it's I mean
that that's my biggest fear is that, you know, when
you're young, you.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Do stuff just because everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Doing it and it feels fun and funny at the time,
and the next thing you know is just it's like
a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know. I'm always like with the kids, I'm like,
just don't do stupid stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, just don't be stupid, But I don't. When do
you When do these kids start understanding what's stupid and
what's not nice. Use this as a segue to talk
about Wilder, because he's in this moment right now of
teenager where our relationship is definitely shifted. Not that he
doesn't love me, I get it. There are so many
different sort of Instagram accounts and things that I read
(27:33):
that are so in line with what I'm feeling with
who teenagers are. Or you feel like they've completely disappeared.
They don't give a shit about you anymore. You know,
they don't tell you the things they used to tell you,
they're not as cuddly with you, and you just feel
like you don't exist and they only come to you
when they want things, you know, blah blah blah. There's
the moments of where it's like connected and all that. Yeah,
(27:56):
but I am in that phase right now, and even
though cerebrally I know what's going on, it's hard to
stop my emotions from being like like, you need to
talk to me, like you need to tell no, no, no,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Kids. Kids can sniff all of that in their parents.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Oh no, I know, you gotta do the other good dude,
I do you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
The reverse psychology.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't think Ryter will cares. I don't. I try
not to.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You got to. You got to pretend like you don't care.
That's what I did.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
As long as Bodi's bodies different, I think it is
gonna be like this is a specific Wilder moving into
teenager stuff where he's always like, you don't even know
me anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's poking me.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He knows how to he knows how to get my
goat because he knows he's joking.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But he says, you just think about you, and so
MET say that to Aaron, I'm like, you don't even
love me.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I mean literally, you love me.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's like, I remember when you were fifteen years old, Oliver,
Remember when you punched.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A hole in your room? Oh my god, Oh my god,
I remember.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I remember feeling like not like I wasn't like sad
for you were scared.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was almost like wow, like always like I almost.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was like this is ridiculous, Like you were so you
were so moody.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I was angry. Are you embarrassed? So angry?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Mom embarrassed me in front of Rebecca ashby you. She
pulled up in her rabbit in her cabriolet. The top
was down. She was going to be great. I was
gonna get in the car. We were gonna go park,
and Mom's like, where are you going? She had no idea.
I'm like, Mom's like, you can't get in a car
(29:41):
with this person. I don't know. She was completely correct,
and I was like, Mom, I was like, sorry, I
can't go. And I was just devastated and I went
and destroyed my room.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, you destroyed your room. You punched a hole in
the wall, and you probably said you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Don't even know who I am anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Oh my god, I'm sure you know cute.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I feel like you know what you should say is
you should say you know what, Wilder, you might be
right I do, and then just walk away.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I was like, I know you're better than you and yourself,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And then walk away. And when you're ready to talk,
we're going to talk.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And his love language to me is fighting, like he
just kicks and punches me. Does kickboxing on me? Really yeah,
but like not hard. You can't can't.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh that's how he's trying to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And I'm like, get away from me, just like hug me,
like I don't want your bony elbows.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I'm like, You're like, oh, Olliver, this is so.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I was like, just love me. I'm like gonna tell him, like,
will you just like hug me for just once, just
like love me? What?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well, that's cute, I do. Yeah, that's cute.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It's all in fun meaning like it's not serious. But
at the same time they change. It was part of
it that is like just devastating, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But it'll change. It's like this is a pocket.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It is because like once they're seventeen, once they know
college is coming like seventeen, right, they start to get
that little bit of anxiety. He's going to start like
you'll feel him like leaning on you more, you'll get
like the huggling, maybe like because he realizes like he's
going to be gone.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's it's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I also think though, that these are important individuations. They
are so you almost want to lean into that maybe too,
which is like, you know what it's good for you
to individual, you know, and if you want me to
get to know who you're becoming, I want to know,
So just come let me know. Let me in, I say,
share with me who you are.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Tell me, tell me how you love to know.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And and in the meantime, I'm going to go hang
with your brother and your.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's what I did. S. Part of what I'm expressing
is sort of how I feel on the inside and
what I talked to Aaron about. And then there's those
little snaps of like like come on, dude, just please
love me. But for the most part, it is that
it is me. He's just saying okay. And I always
make a point to at least tell him how much
I love him without needing anything back. And I think
that's important, meaning I'll pop into his room and say
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love you kid, blah blah blah, goes love you, Jude,
I'm like, bye, you know, why don't you try? Our
rides are just completely silent. I'm like, I get like nervous.
It's like a it's like a first date, you know.
It's like it's like having a bad first blind date
where I'm just sitting there in the car ride to
school and he's just quiet. I'm like, so, how are
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things and he's like good, and like, so Pearl his girlfriend,
you know, things going good. He's like yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm like, don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'm like, so, I guess we'll get you into some
kickboxing classes. It's like yeah, dad, like my ass. Like
a couple of times, I'm like okay, and then I
finally drop him off and I'm like I love you
and he's like I love you, and I'm like, Jesus,
immediately turn on Stern.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I'm like, oh, no, wonder you feel like you're having.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Hard I know, I mean, I think that's.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is totally you're losing your child. You're like, I'm dying.
I'm dying, but it is.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It is really honestly though, it is really amazing to
watch him with someone who he really really likes. A
lot his first girlfriend. It's very real. You know, when
we're on vacation, he's about buying stuff for her, finding
things for her, wanting to give her things, always wanting
to be with her. Twenty four to seven. He's always
into his phone. She is amazing. It's just this really cool.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's cute.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I know. It's cool to watch your child find love
for somebody else and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
How they want to show their love.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like, I love seeing writer have those moments with his
girlfriend friend where I can see who he is as
a boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, and then I'm like so proud.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I'm like, oh, I'm so happy that he's such a
good boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's when the true kid comes out. And when when
she's over at our house and I'm in the room,
it's wilder as I know him, because he's not performing,
you know for me, he's just with her and not
wanting to look bad in a sense, you know, not
wanting to seem like he's this way with his father.
You can see how he is with her and what
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a great boyfriend he is, and then her parents like,
your son is incredible. They went to Mammoth together and
he's like all of our bags were at the bottom
of the stairs. He took every bag upstairs to the room.
So I'm like, what he did? What that kid literally
eats cereal and just leaves it. I'm like, put your
(34:52):
sim what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So cute because everything else he goes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
He's so talkative, he's so open, he's this, and then
I'm like, wow, I mean I love that, yeah, because
that is a reflection upon us.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, of course, of course. Well it means that, like,
no matter how he's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
How he's experiencing his relationship to you guys and his
own personal individuation from being like his father's son to
his own man, right, like this is these are important
moments for kids, especially when it comes to identity. Yeah
stuff father son, mother daughter. Yes, Aaron's kind of experiencing
(35:33):
the same thing. He doesn't do it with Aarony too.
He doesn't know a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But it's funny because he goes to her a little
bit more than he does to me, which is odd,
which is a bit of a switch, right, you know,
he confides in her a little bit more. I think
because he has this person who he really likes a lot,
not maybe falling in love with the young love or whatever.
He can relate to Aaron because of that, the way
(35:57):
he's feeling about a female, And now he can go
to Aaron and say, what do you think Pearl would like,
what do you think this? I'm doing? This? Is it okay?
If I do this? You know he doesn't do that
with me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well, he normally would, so wild Rider.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
With his girlfriend this this this summer. It's like, you know,
how do you feel about you know, my gf coming
on to you know, on our trip.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I'm like great.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And then I was like, well, actually Danny and I
are going to do an adult trip to this place.
And he's like, am I considering?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes you are. He's like can we come? I'm like yeah,
that'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I'm like, oh my god, it'll be me and Rider
and girlfriend and Danny and well it's such a fun.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's so different. It's so different.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And now, I mean, look, he's like, you know, he's
getting his own apartment and he's like scroothing out of
his dorm.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He's he's starting.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy, it's kind of weird, and
you have to go through all those steps to get
to that place.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And then I think it changed, and the next one
will be different. Body will be different, bing will be different,
real will be different. Ronnie will be different.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh like makes my like me all fuzzy inside thinking
about our kids.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
What's Ronnie at fifteen?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Well, if it's anything like right now, like really challenging,
Oh my god, I mean she is so funny, I
mean Ronnie. She's also the most loving and she's very attached.
So right now it's all like, mommy, are you wearing
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the sweater, the sweater with buttons or no buttons?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And I'll be like with buttons, and so she has
to get the sweater.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Are you wearing your hair in a bun? Are you
wearing a pony tail? And we're in a bus, she
has to wear her hair in a Yeah. But it's
also like after a while, you're like, honey, you goddamn,
I want you to express yourself the way you want
to look, you know, And but she's it's very much
like we're not wearing the same thing. And then if
it's and then if she doesn't have she didn't have
(38:02):
like a black I was wearing a black dress one day,
she didn't have a black dress, and she just lost
like wouldn't what didn't want to go out? It was
like a whole and I.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Was it's like you we were at a ski trip
when Kate was like a little baby. She didn't go
not a baby baby, but she didn't go out nder
the snow because she didn't like the color white. Like
she literally stayed, no, that's what you.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Said, Yes, but it was because I didn't want to
get I didn't want to wear pants. Well that was
yet did you get the snowsuit on?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Right? You wanted to wear like a snows I.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Wanted to wear a dress. I wanted to wear a dress.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And because we were in like sun dance where I
had to put on a snowsuit, and so I said,
I'm not going outside.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I just don't like white.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You don't like the color I don't like She wouldn't
go out of the house because he didn't like the
color white the only way and a.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Lot like because mom knew she knew my secret. She
knew I didn't want to ever.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Wear pants, right, didn't want to wear pants?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Oh so funny for like for like almost two years. Yes,
I wouldn't put pants. I would like rather fritterally.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You would just go ski in like a mini.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But yeah, do you remember that trip because you were
really little. I do remember. I remember. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
What I remember from that trip was some room with
a bunch of ball pit.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, ball What was that crazy ballpit?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, that's all I remember. It was inside the.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
House, inside the house. I remember the house. I don't know.
I think it was in the pool. I think the
balls were on top of a pool.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
No, no, no, it was just yeah, I bet it
was like a party house.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And we just don't really remember.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
We were I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Wasn't Mom's singles and mom was single.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the eighties. They were all going
crazy and we were in the ball pit. Mom. They're like,
they're like, just go in the ball pit.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Mother.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's when I fell off a chairlift for the first time,
and I still remember it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I was thinking about that the other day when we
were on a chairlift, you and I together, and remember
we were thinking about the high alpine chairlift and Caller
and Aspen and how we used to go up there
and there was like no nothing on it.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
There was no bar. Yeah, it was like hanging.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
From like, oh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, I know, I would.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Never let my kids do that, Like I think about,
like I if that was the way the chairlifts.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Were now, I would never want my kids to ski.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
My problem is the boys all go skiing now on
their own with their friends, and they don't put the
bar down because they think it's like cool, and I'm like,
put the bar down. What's the difference? Yeah, and they
don't think it's cool, so they'd like leave it up.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I did that too, though, Remember I don't when they
first started the bar, we didn't put the bar down
because we were cool.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Whenever I go on a lift with other people, I
get insecure about wanting to put the bar down because
I don't want them to think I'm like scared. So
I'm like, we get like halfway up, I'm like put
it down, like coming down, just like say it, try
to say it with authority, like coming down.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I don't have any of those issues now I do.
It's weird, like and what is that? Why do you
not have the fear when you're younger, but you do
have the fear when you're older.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
There's more at stake falling off the lift and dying.
There's more you're leaving behind. I guess my problem is
if I don't put the bar down, I have this
equal fear that I'm gonna I'm gonna fall, and then
and then on the other side like that I'm gonna jump.
Like I get this weird feeling like I'm gonna go.
I have that feeling like it's weird sense of like.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
See, I do things like every time I'm on and
I'm like, so if this falls, if the bars down
and we're we're falling, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Do you mean the whole thing comes off the cable? Yeah,
oh you're dead. Anyway, you're gonna break something.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean depending on how not if you not, if
you can figure out.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
From the time you fall the time you.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Hit the ground, however your reflexes are.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Fast, well maybe you could because jumping, Like think about
how long in your brain it is when you jump.
What would if you had to jump from there to there?
That would take a long time. But what would you
do if the bar was up the down? Just scream
and fall? No, the thing is it's all about the bar.
You have to figure out how to get the bar
up fast.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
But if you hit the ground, whether the bar is
down or up, you're still going to splat.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Well, no, you have to like you have to like
roll into it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You're talking, But you know, I just skied in Snowbird
and we heard this story which I think has made
the boys put the bar down so recently. This this happened,
a tree fell and hit the cable and the guy
didn't have a bar down and it catapulted. Was clean,
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and everyone else with the bars down just got like
they hit the bar and they were still in their thing.
But the guy didn't got catapulted out of the whole
thing in the ground and I didn't die. Oh no.
And did you ever see that rush that that video
in Russia?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No I know, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
The chair lift it's going backwards, going.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
How does not even happen?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I don't know. It's just malfunctioned. Kept going back like
a thousand miles an hour. People are flying off that
thing and they just called it they stacking up jack.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I would have literally jumped, That's what I'm saying. I
think about this. You're like, okay, what do you do?
You have to jump?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
If the chair lift started to go backwards like really
fast like that but I was near the top, I
would the bar would be down, you got your place,
you put your feet on. I would keep my skis on,
hang off the bar, going towards, going in the same direction,
find the right place, and then drop. And then it's
like you have a momentum going down.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Watch her. That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, that's that's what I would do. And then and
then and then we gotta go soon. But I'm gonna
leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, I gotta go because I have to take I
gotta get it.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, I gotta go to But there's also stuff that
this season, like Big Sky some other places where the
wind is blowing so hard and these people are on
these chair lifts and it's like insane.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Really, why didn't they close the well?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
These little squalls come up where these one hundred mile
an hour winds are blowing and people are just they
must be freaking.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Oh my god. I never go skiking again.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, it was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
I wouldn't go skiing again unless it was like the
most perfect if.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I like, I have to have a SnowCat. This is
my personal snow cat.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's called Katie Cat. Bringing the Katie Cat well listen.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I'm excited for this season. I loved starting with the Bushes.
That was really fun. They're so personable. We've got a
lot of good stuff happening, and and I feel like
this was a really good catchup Sash.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
It was great. It was fun, and we'll do.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Another one yeah throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Oh yeah.
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Speaker 1 (46:20):
What is what does he call his like peepsation?
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Do we need to come up with? Does he have
a name for his followers like this something?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, they're like the Enlighteners or something.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Again, we still have to come up with enlightenment.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
What is the what is the Hey, researcher Dan. What
is Russell Brands call his his listeners?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
God, researcher Dan, can you.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Fire immediately?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
We like fires like researcher jet, Like what Jesus's fire
that guy too?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
While researcher dance looking that up? What what would we
call our listeners?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Remember we didn't, Brad, didn't my publicist come up with
a good name.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
The revelers, the revelers, the rests revelers.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
It sounds like like a Mormon fundamental totally welcome to
the church, the Church of the Revelers.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It literally is forgetting the wrap up signal because the
wrap up other things to be doing.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
What does Russell Brand call his listeners? Literally just asked
that it will answer it. No, you don't, you need
to google it?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
What does Russell Brand call his listeners?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Watch this?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
All right? Well we'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Whats trying to figure it out?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Did Russell have a sibling?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
He'd be great, I would I would love.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
I would love him on this show.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Interesting, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
We should DM him.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Okay, well we'll figure it out. We're look, guys, send
in emails. This is what I was trying to say,
hit the follow button wherever you listen to podcasts. We
would love to get any reviews and uh on feedback
and also don't forget honey Daniel totally firing, okay, And
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love reading your emails. We definitely want to do an
email episode again this year this season. Uh, maybe we'll
get one in there uh and next season, so don't
forget to write in it's siblings submission at gmail dot
com and we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
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Speaker 2 (49:06):
On the flip side.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Producer is Alison, President.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
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Speaker 2 (49:22):
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
We are a sibling raivalry. No, no, sibling. You don't
do that with your mouth revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hey, it's me Hi. So I thought I had a
heart attack last night? What I thought I was having one?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Wait, this happened to me.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
I was now granted I was, it's about you just
then it could be about you in a second. But
I smoked. I smoked some married juwan Juan.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Well, this is why you were having But I never
had heart attack.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
But I've been having a little bit of an anxiety lately.
It's another topic of conversation. But smoked the weed, and
all of a sudden, my left arm started to hurt.
Oh no, I was running hard yesterday. I was. I
played a lot of golf in the last few days,
so it normally would have just felt like a little
pinch nerve right. But then all of a sudden, my
(01:21):
mind switches to, oh my god, is this the start
of something? So now I start googling, you know, the
WebMD vibes like, what does this feel like? So I
went down the path and then took like half a
bottle of advil and it went away.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
So also, your wife did just get her calcium thing,
so that might have been also in the back, so
she went into all her hard stuff. Yes, I'm actually
going today to get my calcium scan.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
Yeah, you thought you were having a heart attack too, No,
I did.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
I had this weird thing.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
I woke up in the middle of the night and
I felt like an over whelming kind of it was
almost like I was I woke up sort of shocked
out of my mid like deep sleep into what felt
like I was about to lose consciousness. So I was
like I woke up and then I was like, oh,
(02:16):
I'm going to faint. And then I didn't know what
was going on, and I felt really like kind of
dizzy and weird, and I was like, oh my god,
what's happening. And then I also had been having some anxiety, but.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Not like this. And then so I immediately.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
Was like, Danny, you know, take me to the hospital,
like right now, I don't know what's going on. And
on the way to the hospital, I felt like I
was going to lose consciousness and I had this feeling like,
oh my god, I'm I'm I'm literally dying.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm going to die.
Speaker 1 (02:51):
And I didn't understand, but I was like, just get
to the hospital.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Get to the hospital. Get to that. I was like,
it was almost like hold on, like in of my
own brain and like.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Hold on, hang on, you can make it. I can
make it. Get to the hot and I was like,
Danny was like, what's going on. I'm like, I couldn't.
I couldn't communicate at the time what I was feeling
because I just needed to focus on staying.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
In a faint. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I was taking these deep breaths and I was like,
I'm I'm literally about to like just either like like
close my eyes and like that's it, or I'm a faint.
I don't know what's going on. Really scary. I then
get to the hospital and I really have to go
to the bathroom.
Speaker 2 (03:40):
And then I'm like and then I'm like I got
to I went to the bathroom.
Speaker 3 (03:43):
I'm great.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
I was like, these guys, thanks for letting me.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Is your toilet now?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
I then have to go to the restroom.
Speaker 1 (03:54):
I then go through a series of things that's feeling
really weird and then I had all this anxiety because
I was like, it was like, for me, it was
all heart.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Of our family.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Obviously it's all heart. So you have a little bit
of anxiety right anyway.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And an aneurism because Grandpa, Yeah, you know, like I
did this Instagram post a while back. You know it
was made of red light, and I just I have
this feeling. I was, I have this feeling when you
get that little pain in your head and it's like
just waiting for me to die. I'm waiting for me
to die. It's gonna happen. And I'm like I'm gonna
I'm like, I'm gonna pull over the side of the
(04:26):
road so I don't kill anyone if I actually do,
you know, And you're like that that sharp pain.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
That now, that little pain, I know we all get them.
That's actually more occipital nerve stuff. But anyway, So so
I get to the hospital, they do a ton of
tests on me.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
I was like, just do them. I just want to know.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
And then I get home and I feel fine, and
I was like, wow, that was really intense.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
I get home, I.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Realized, I don't know, this is so embarrassing, but I'm
actually going to allow this to be on the show.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Okay, I get home.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I really that I had taken Smooth Move, but instead
of taking it at like eight o'clock before you go
to bed, I took it at like five thirty. Yeah,
and it takes like a good ten hours for it
to tea.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
It's a tea. It's a it's a tea that has
senna in it.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
It has exactly you know, it has this thing in
it that helps you kind of regulate and go to
the bathroom, and and I take it every once in
a while.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
I'm like, it's great. I love it. Who doesn't love
smooth Move? It was just not so smooth? So I
what happened?
Speaker 1 (05:36):
Then I looked it up, and then Danny, of course,
being mister researchers, like did you take anything? And I
at the time I was like I don't know, no, no,
And then I was like, oh no, I did.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
I was just at the hospital.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
We just went through like all of these different doctors
being like, what else did you take?
Speaker 2 (05:51):
I was like nothing.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
I get home, I'm like, oh no, I took smooth
Move and it has senna in it, which if you
haven't eaten a lot in the in that day, which
I ended up not eating that much that night because
I was it was late and I was like, I
don't want to eat too much too lakes and I
can't sleep well.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
So I had not eaten.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I had the Senna and then I took like a
like all these gummy vitamins before I went like, I
took like a like omega, you know, like a couple
like an hour before.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
So I just had this crazy weird it's like.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
A vitamin reaction.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Yeah, And I thought, yeah, but I really needed to
go to this.
Speaker 3 (06:32):
So it was a hypochondria runs in the fa I
mean in our family if there's a genetic understand if
there's a genetic component.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean even Ronnie has like she's like, mom, there's
something wrong with my little middle toe.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
No, I know. It was same with Wilder. Yeah, you know,
same with not real but body a little bit, you know.
But but it's is it does it run in the family.
Is it a learned behavior or is it mostly a component.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
I don't have the answer to this, but but I
would my gut is it has learned behavior. I think so,
and that there are some kids have a little obviously
more like anxiety or fear than others healthy. I was
talking to someone about their kids and they're both doctors,
and the mother has a great way of dealing with
(07:19):
their kids' ailments. She does this thing where she decided
the narrative around it was, I know, you know, we
sometimes are tummy hurts and it's just a feeling and
then it goes away. So instead of it being like
something's going to make it feel better, it's like understanding
that our body goes through different cycles and things sometimes ache,
(07:41):
we have pains, and that they're normal.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
There doesn't mean that something's wrong with you.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
And I was like, oh see, I never did that
with my kids. It was always like, if they feel sick,
I want to make it better.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
We're going to do this.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
It's going to make it better. And it's like I
never like assured them that they were fine. Yeah, you know,
this is normal. You're just feeling something and then that
feeling will go away. And I was like, Oh, that's
so good because then you're teaching their brain the right
things happen.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
I started to think that, like, it's funny you say
because I tell them that, but completely selfishly, I tell
them that everything's going to be okay for my own
my own anxiety, It's true. I'm like, oh, dude, you're fine,
You're fine. You know, your stomach heurt's super cramped up.
Like it's fine, it's fine, it's just food. But really,
I'm telling myself that because the way I react to
(08:35):
my kids when they have an ailment, I have a
bit of a panic mode and I almost get angry
or want it to be okay so badly that sometimes
I get at them, yeah you know what I mean,
like you're fine and meanwhen I'm like, oh my god,
I do fine, this is fine, I.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
Don't know, yeah, you know, yeah, no, I know exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
I have anxiety triggers. It's it's it's like having it
triggers your It's like it's like it's like someone who
has the worst gag reflex of all time, Like my like,
I have anxiety reflex, like beyond anything. I feel any
little ailment immediately the adrenaline opens up. I'm like this,
(09:20):
I mean immediately, and it scares me, you know, I know,
but these are scares me because I worry about what
would happen if something really was to go down that
I had to sort of protect my family or or
or be in the moment and actually get through it.
Or if I was alone in the woods, would I
just be like just die.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Well, I think about a man. I think being a
man is nothing. I think a manly, I feel like
I manly has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 1 (09:51):
I think this like the strength of think about people
who've lost children.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
It's the most devastating.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
You don't want to think about those things, but unfortunately,
these tragedies happened to many. I think about the people
who have their strength and people that I know who've
lost children. I mean, I was reading this article the
other day. This I'll send it to you.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
This writer. He wrote about he lost.
Speaker 1 (10:20):
Both of his children in a car accident, and he
wrote about it. I think, I said, I read this,
and I've been sending you things that make you cry.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I know, I was on vacation on spring break. It
is beautiful out tropical. Kate sends me this thing that
was just so tragic. I'm like, what are you doing that?
This is awful?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
But it wasn't awful.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
It was it was beautiful, beautiful because it was like,
My point is this that like people either are feeling
things that are so immense there's there having so much anxiety,
they're having so much deep depression that they don't know
who to reach out to or who what their support
system is. Then then you have people who've experienced tragedy
(11:04):
is like what we're talking about, and are actually living
what your worst nightmare would be and is their worst nightmare,
and they're they're they're learning how to survive. It's it's unfortunate,
but so many people have experienced tragedy, So there's this
large support group of people who've been through it. And
(11:26):
the one thing that this guy said, who lost both
of his children, he's a writer.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
He writes on a big show.
Speaker 1 (11:33):
I forget what show it is, but he he basically
woke up. They were driving, the whole family in the car.
They got sideswiped. Next thing they know, they woke up
in a hospital. One child's gone and they are now
leaving one hospital because their other child was not doing
well at another hospital, and within hours they had lost
(11:54):
both of their children. Husband and wife they survived. Couldn't
be a more tragic story. And and he but he
talks about like refinding the joy in life and how
hard that concept is, and and and and he's so
eloquent about how right now I'm going to be envious.
(12:17):
I'm gonna be jealous of what you have, and I'm
gonna have to go through all this grief.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
But like I need you, huh first one back, first,
one back crying but you.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Know, but but he's so eloquent in the way.
Speaker 1 (12:35):
That he communicates, Yeah, how he needs to deal with tragedy.
And I think when you love so huge, you're just
at risk of loss, you are, and and so you
feel everything so huge, you don't want to lose everything.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But we do have to come to a place where
we whether it be through.
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Spiritual practice or religion or or even just like a
sense of acceptance or stoicism of recognizing that we are
not here forever. You know, I think that we have
to find that place where we have to accept that we.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Don't know what the next tomorrow is.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
And so instead of living with all of the anxiety
or living with all of the fear, like when those
things start to happen, like really searching for gratitude now
so that if the time ever comes where we all
we and look, we will deal with tragedy.
Speaker 2 (13:35):
Like you know, we're in this pocket right now, where
we still have our parents.
Speaker 3 (13:39):
This is what's scary to me. It's like everything is
so good, yeah, but and it's still be good, of course,
and it's you're just sort of waiting for the shoe
to drop, and you're like, what the fuck, something bad
has to happen. Everything is too perfect, right, But I
think I think Elier, our therapist, would say so much.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
So it just so sho is going to the shoe
will drop.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
There will be a shoe and it will drop, and
you know, and and and honestly, I mean this sounds morbid,
but the hope is that it happens in the right time.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
That we're lucky, yes, and that we're lucky.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Or blessed to have these things happen as they're supposed to,
not out of something that feels very tragic. But look,
we've seen our friends go through it. We've seen people
that we admire go through it, and you get through
it and life just goes on. So it really does
again become about how we manage in the moment, and
that's all you can do.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
And really, I mean, if you can truly eliminate the
fear of death, I know that's it. Life just way
open it's so I got to imagine not being afraid
of you dying, of anyone around you dying, because it
just is what it is, and of course it's tragic.
Speaker 2 (14:47):
Imagine better. Although I do incredible. I have a helix.
Speaker 3 (15:03):
I have a helix.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
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Speaker 1 (15:04):
Helix, yes, and as our audience knows, you know, we
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their products and use them.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And use them. That's right. I've had my helix mattress
now for years.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
Yeah, two years for me.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
Yeah, I've had mine for three maybe or four.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do the quiz and they know exactly what kind of mattress.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That's the great thing. There's a quiz that you take
and how you sleep. But you sleep hot, cold, side
sleep or back sleeper, and it basically spits out the
mattress that is right for you. It sort of customizes it.
And mine was a midnight lux which is still a
midnight Loux even after all these years.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Do you sleep hot or do you sleep cold?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
I don't know how I sleep. I don't feel hot
or cold.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I feel hot or cold.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Yeah when they say that, I don't have like a
heat thing. You know, But if you are so one
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Speaker 2 (17:03):
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Speaker 1 (17:06):
I feel like well, first of all, I'm a mother
of three, even though one is no longer in the house,
which is crazy.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
You're just still a mother.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
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Speaker 3 (17:21):
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Speaker 1 (17:29):
The more we cook with our families, the more we
cook with our kids, the better our relationship our children.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
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Speaker 1 (17:36):
This is also something that makes it easy for parents
who don't like to cook to cook for their kids
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Speaker 3 (17:43):
And it's the number one. Do you know how any
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Speaker 1 (17:49):
I also like when you go on the web, when
you go on like the thing and then you get
to look at.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
All the time. It is fun.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
Me ooh that's a heat.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
I know you're you're online shopping for your dinner. You
know it's cool. It's also cheaper than grocery shopping. Yeah,
twenty five percent cheaper than going to buy groceries to
cook for your family.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
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(18:46):
I mentioned it's America's number one meal kid. Yeah, this
is the second episode of the new season.
Speaker 1 (18:57):
We actually, well, this is the this is the second episode,
but we already recorded all of the season, right, But.
Speaker 3 (19:04):
We're doing this retrospectively, right, Danny, Is that right word?
Is that the right way to use that word? A
lot has happened in the year. You know, we haven't
even had You and I haven't sat down and talked
to each other in a while. We haven't, no, not
(19:26):
not via podcast.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
I don't I haven't.
Speaker 3 (19:31):
You don't remember, I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
I know, we really haven't.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
We haven't like sat down and really even gone over anything.
Speaker 3 (19:40):
No, I know, have you been fine? Great?
Speaker 1 (19:44):
Moving on, Oliver, we haven't even talked about like.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Rider in college.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Rider in college.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
We haven't talked about We.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Haven't talked about, uh, you know Wilder's first girlfriend.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Oh my god, he's got a girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Real deal.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
Great, I know there's all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (20:02):
You haven't talked about your album.
Speaker 2 (20:04):
I know. Well, we'll get to that. We'll get to that.
Speaker 3 (20:08):
Let me just sing a song from your album.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Go for it. Try it.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
Oh god, I can't. But there was one that kept
popping into my head. Good. No, I know, I'm trying
to remember what it was, but I would wake up
sort of singing it. It was in my head. I
don't have it in my head. I can't remember if
it pops into my head.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Off.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
Was it a faster up tempo or was it it was.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
More of an up It was more of an up tempo.
I know it driving and it was it was good.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I know what song it is.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
It's what I'm not going to say it out loud,
but I know what song it is.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Yeah. So there's really there's so.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Much going on.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
There's so much going on, and yet that's what happens
in life, right, all this stuff that's going on, and
then it's like it just feels like whenever I.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
Was like, how you doing, You're like great, what's going on?
Speaker 3 (21:05):
You're like, I mean, well, first of all, I can't
A small talk to me is like the same thing
everything I know, how are you good? How are you great?
Same thing?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Cool?
Speaker 3 (21:19):
I mean if if if if someone asked you how
are you in passing and you really unloaded on them
on how you really felt well.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
I decided to do that recently.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
Being like I'm okay, you thinks are a little weird
for me, I can't get a job, and they're like,
I'm just I'm going to go.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
If you actually start doing that with people, you realize
who's like really cool and like really has no interest
in you or your life or really talking to you
that you don't really want, like to connect with. I
started doing that. I was I was sitting with at
one of these events. I was sitting with an actor
who I didn't really know, but I knew him through
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other friends, and we were sitting at this table together and.
Speaker 2 (22:00):
He goes, how are you? I said great?
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Actually, I and I just started going into my record
and I've been doing this and I and he was
got so excited and.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
We started talking about gat.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
You know, a thousand different things. Conversation went into stuff
and kids.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
He's like, I got three kids. I'm like, are they musical?
Like actually? We just like it went from that. It's like, oh,
this guy's great.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
But that's because it was positive. What if someone said
how are you and I'm like, not that great. I
have gout and uh, you know, I'm on medication for cool.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Cool, then it would be someone whould be like you
know that, I know this guy who can help you
with your gout.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
I was going to try that from now and how
like how you doing? Like not good? It's not good,
not really really not that good? Thanks for asking.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh my god, oh so funny. That's so great. That
was like that.
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I another actor that I saw one time, who a
long time ago, like I remember saying like, hey, I've
been seeing you.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
For a while. How are you?
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Was like, it's been really rough, and he was like
dressed up in this weird costume because he's a comedian
and he was like dressed up as a different person.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
So and he was like not in your normal everyday life,
like it was in an event.
Speaker 1 (23:20):
Of no, it was an event, but he was dressed
up as someone else. So he looked insane okay, And
I was like, how are you?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
And he's like, it's been really rough.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
I kind of took some time, and I've been up
in the mountains, you know, like trying to figure out
like what's going on my life. And I was like,
I was like, it made me love him even more
because he got really vulnerable. But he looked so silly.
So I was like, oh, this guy's the best at
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a party and he's like so down and like dressed
in some crazy outfit. I think he was like half
naked and some like net outfit too, like he looked.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Speaking of Rider really quickly though, because he has gone away,
have you just completely Do you still think about him
every day?
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Every day?
Speaker 3 (24:09):
You do every day? And do you wonder what he's doing.
Do you picture him sort of like in his dorm
room or at a bar or whatever. Is it sort
of out of sight, out of mind in any way?
Speaker 2 (24:20):
No, but we pretty much talk every day. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
I mean, if he faced he's a mama's boy, you know,
he face times me. He facetimed me today, He's like, mom,
oh my god. So I started playing Octopus's Garden on
the guitar and he's like walking, you know, and I
was like, honey, that's great. I'm like, I have a
I have to get off because I gotta do this
piano thing.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
And then and he was like, oh I fine, man.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
I was like, well, honey, I got things I gotta do.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
I can call you later, you know. And he's like, okay, fine, right, And.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
So like he's he's like still very connected.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
Yeah. And and do you worry about his safety?
Speaker 2 (25:03):
No?
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Not in New York, you don't know.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
I actually think I'd worry more about his safety if
he was at a school.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
Where he was in the car all the time.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
Or where there was a lot of like weather that
he had to deal with, you know what I mean,
I'd be more concerned. I mean like tornadoes and stuff
or yeah, or like blizzards and things where you know
they have to get from eighth A to Z.
Speaker 2 (25:25):
And Rider, you know, I wouldn't worry.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
I think every kid is different, Like Rider, I'd worry
about in that, whereas being I probably wouldn't. Right, Rider,
I love that he's like in the city, he walks everywhere.
It's just you know, they take they either take the
subway or they are gonna you know, they walk like
the blocks.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
He probably makes decent choices too.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
Oh yeah, he's not like a bit. I'm not worried
about no, no, no, I'm not worried about him. If anything,
I'm more worried about him, like like staying home and
like want he's a homebody, you know, like oh wow,
but no, but he's great like I and I and
he doesn't do like silly party.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He doesn't go like silly stupid party.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Like the New York thing. Makes total sense because I
went to Boulder and there was a million things to
be afraid of.
Speaker 1 (26:15):
I told Ryder if he because he was like, I'm
gonna go to Boulder. I'm like, if I won't pay
for your call, I remember, I was like, no, Well,
if you can figure out how to pay to go
to Boulder.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
You probably a smart play. Because I went to Boulder,
and you know, it was there was a lot to
be afraid of, meaning people driving, just that college experience
of just dummies, I know.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
And also we lost somebody. We lost a camp a
girl that we went to camp with was killed and.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
She was car surfing. Yeah, I mean literally on the
top of a car going down a mountain standing on
the roof of the car.
Speaker 1 (26:51):
It's so sad, you know, but but it's I mean
that that's my biggest fear is that, you know, when
you're young, you.
Speaker 2 (27:00):
Do stuff just because everybody else is.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Doing it and it feels fun and funny at the time,
and the next thing you know is just it's like
a nightmare.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
You know. I'm always like with the kids, I'm like,
just don't do stupid stuff.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Well, just don't be stupid, But I don't. When do
you When do these kids start understanding what's stupid and
what's not nice. Use this as a segue to talk
about Wilder, because he's in this moment right now of
teenager where our relationship is definitely shifted. Not that he
doesn't love me, I get it. There are so many
different sort of Instagram accounts and things that I read
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that are so in line with what I'm feeling with
who teenagers are. Or you feel like they've completely disappeared.
They don't give a shit about you anymore. You know,
they don't tell you the things they used to tell you,
they're not as cuddly with you, and you just feel
like you don't exist and they only come to you
when they want things, you know, blah blah blah. There's
the moments of where it's like connected and all that. Yeah,
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but I am in that phase right now, and even
though cerebrally I know what's going on, it's hard to
stop my emotions from being like like, you need to
talk to me, like you need to tell no, no, no,
it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Kids. Kids can sniff all of that in their parents.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Oh no, I know, you gotta do the other good dude,
I do you gotta do.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
The reverse psychology.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
I don't think Ryter will cares. I don't. I try
not to.
Speaker 2 (28:21):
You got to. You got to pretend like you don't care.
That's what I did.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
As long as Bodi's bodies different, I think it is
gonna be like this is a specific Wilder moving into
teenager stuff where he's always like, you don't even know
me anymore.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's poking me.
Speaker 3 (28:37):
He knows how to he knows how to get my
goat because he knows he's joking.
Speaker 1 (28:41):
But he says, you just think about you, and so
MET say that to Aaron, I'm like, you don't even
love me.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
I mean literally, you love me.
Speaker 1 (28:50):
It's like, I remember when you were fifteen years old, Oliver,
Remember when you punched.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
A hole in your room? Oh my god, Oh my god,
I remember.
Speaker 1 (29:01):
I remember feeling like not like I wasn't like sad
for you were scared.
Speaker 2 (29:08):
It was almost like wow, like always like I almost.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
Was like this is ridiculous, Like you were so you
were so moody.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
I was angry. Are you embarrassed? So angry?
Speaker 3 (29:21):
Mom embarrassed me in front of Rebecca ashby you. She
pulled up in her rabbit in her cabriolet. The top
was down. She was going to be great. I was
gonna get in the car. We were gonna go park,
and Mom's like, where are you going? She had no idea.
I'm like, Mom's like, you can't get in a car
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with this person. I don't know. She was completely correct,
and I was like, Mom, I was like, sorry, I
can't go. And I was just devastated and I went
and destroyed my room.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
Yeah, you destroyed your room. You punched a hole in
the wall, and you probably said you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
Don't even know who I am anymore.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
Oh my god, I'm sure you know cute.
Speaker 2 (30:03):
I feel like you know what you should say is
you should say you know what, Wilder, you might be
right I do, and then just walk away.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
I was like, I know you're better than you and yourself,
damn it.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
And then walk away. And when you're ready to talk,
we're going to talk.
Speaker 3 (30:17):
And his love language to me is fighting, like he
just kicks and punches me. Does kickboxing on me? Really yeah,
but like not hard. You can't can't.
Speaker 2 (30:26):
Oh that's how he's trying to.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
And I'm like, get away from me, just like hug me,
like I don't want your bony elbows.
Speaker 1 (30:34):
And I'm like, You're like, oh, Olliver, this is so.
Speaker 3 (30:38):
I was like, just love me. I'm like gonna tell him, like,
will you just like hug me for just once, just
like love me? What?
Speaker 2 (30:45):
Well, that's cute, I do. Yeah, that's cute.
Speaker 3 (30:47):
It's all in fun meaning like it's not serious. But
at the same time they change. It was part of
it that is like just devastating, I know.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
But it'll change. It's like this is a pocket.
Speaker 1 (30:59):
It is because like once they're seventeen, once they know
college is coming like seventeen, right, they start to get
that little bit of anxiety. He's going to start like
you'll feel him like leaning on you more, you'll get
like the huggling, maybe like because he realizes like he's
going to be gone.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Yeah, it's it's like, you know.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
I also think though, that these are important individuations. They
are so you almost want to lean into that maybe too,
which is like, you know what it's good for you
to individual, you know, and if you want me to
get to know who you're becoming, I want to know,
So just come let me know. Let me in, I say,
share with me who you are.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Tell me, tell me how you love to know.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I want to know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
And and in the meantime, I'm going to go hang
with your brother and your.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
That's what I did. S. Part of what I'm expressing
is sort of how I feel on the inside and
what I talked to Aaron about. And then there's those
little snaps of like like come on, dude, just please
love me. But for the most part, it is that
it is me. He's just saying okay. And I always
make a point to at least tell him how much
I love him without needing anything back. And I think
that's important, meaning I'll pop into his room and say
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love you kid, blah blah blah, goes love you, Jude,
I'm like, bye, you know, why don't you try? Our
rides are just completely silent. I'm like, I get like nervous.
It's like a it's like a first date, you know.
It's like it's like having a bad first blind date
where I'm just sitting there in the car ride to
school and he's just quiet. I'm like, so, how are
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things and he's like good, and like, so Pearl his girlfriend,
you know, things going good. He's like yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I'm like, don't know what else to say.
Speaker 3 (32:45):
I'm like, so, I guess we'll get you into some
kickboxing classes. It's like yeah, dad, like my ass. Like
a couple of times, I'm like okay, and then I
finally drop him off and I'm like I love you
and he's like I love you, and I'm like, Jesus,
immediately turn on Stern.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
I'm like, oh, no, wonder you feel like you're having.
Speaker 3 (33:09):
Hard I know, I mean, I think that's.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
This is totally you're losing your child. You're like, I'm dying.
I'm dying, but it is.
Speaker 3 (33:19):
It is really honestly though, it is really amazing to
watch him with someone who he really really likes. A
lot his first girlfriend. It's very real. You know, when
we're on vacation, he's about buying stuff for her, finding
things for her, wanting to give her things, always wanting
to be with her. Twenty four to seven. He's always
into his phone. She is amazing. It's just this really cool.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
It's cute.
Speaker 3 (33:43):
I know. It's cool to watch your child find love
for somebody else and.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
How they want to show their love.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Yeah, that's what I love.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Like, I love seeing writer have those moments with his
girlfriend friend where I can see who he is as
a boyfriend.
Speaker 2 (34:03):
Yes, and then I'm like so proud.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
I'm like, oh, I'm so happy that he's such a
good boyfriend.
Speaker 3 (34:10):
That's when the true kid comes out. And when when
she's over at our house and I'm in the room,
it's wilder as I know him, because he's not performing,
you know for me, he's just with her and not
wanting to look bad in a sense, you know, not
wanting to seem like he's this way with his father.
You can see how he is with her and what
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a great boyfriend he is, and then her parents like,
your son is incredible. They went to Mammoth together and
he's like all of our bags were at the bottom
of the stairs. He took every bag upstairs to the room.
So I'm like, what he did? What that kid literally
eats cereal and just leaves it. I'm like, put your
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sim what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (34:53):
So cute because everything else he goes.
Speaker 3 (34:56):
He's so talkative, he's so open, he's this, and then
I'm like, wow, I mean I love that, yeah, because
that is a reflection upon us.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Yeah, of course, of course. Well it means that, like,
no matter how he's.
Speaker 1 (35:10):
How he's experiencing his relationship to you guys and his
own personal individuation from being like his father's son to
his own man, right, like this is these are important
moments for kids, especially when it comes to identity. Yeah
stuff father son, mother daughter. Yes, Aaron's kind of experiencing
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the same thing. He doesn't do it with Aarony too.
He doesn't know a little bit.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
But it's funny because he goes to her a little
bit more than he does to me, which is odd,
which is a bit of a switch, right, you know,
he confides in her a little bit more. I think
because he has this person who he really likes a lot,
not maybe falling in love with the young love or whatever.
He can relate to Aaron because of that, the way
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he's feeling about a female, And now he can go
to Aaron and say, what do you think Pearl would like,
what do you think this? I'm doing? This? Is it okay?
If I do this? You know he doesn't do that
with me.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
Well, he normally would, so wild Rider.
Speaker 1 (36:11):
With his girlfriend this this this summer. It's like, you know,
how do you feel about you know, my gf coming
on to you know, on our trip.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
And I'm like great.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
And then I was like, well, actually Danny and I
are going to do an adult trip to this place.
And he's like, am I considering?
Speaker 2 (36:33):
Yes you are. He's like can we come? I'm like yeah,
that'll be fun.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
I'm like, oh my god, it'll be me and Rider
and girlfriend and Danny and well it's such a fun.
Speaker 2 (36:43):
It's so different. It's so different.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
And now, I mean, look, he's like, you know, he's
getting his own apartment and he's like scroothing out of
his dorm.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
He's he's starting.
Speaker 1 (36:53):
Yeah, it's kind of crazy, it's kind of weird, and
you have to go through all those steps to get
to that place.
Speaker 3 (36:58):
And then I think it changed, and the next one
will be different. Body will be different, bing will be different,
real will be different. Ronnie will be different.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
Oh like makes my like me all fuzzy inside thinking
about our kids.
Speaker 3 (37:11):
What's Ronnie at fifteen?
Speaker 1 (37:13):
Well, if it's anything like right now, like really challenging,
Oh my god, I mean she is so funny, I
mean Ronnie. She's also the most loving and she's very attached.
So right now it's all like, mommy, are you wearing
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the sweater, the sweater with buttons or no buttons?
Speaker 2 (37:38):
And I'll be like with buttons, and so she has
to get the sweater.
Speaker 1 (37:41):
Are you wearing your hair in a bun? Are you
wearing a pony tail? And we're in a bus, she
has to wear her hair in a Yeah. But it's
also like after a while, you're like, honey, you goddamn,
I want you to express yourself the way you want
to look, you know, And but she's it's very much
like we're not wearing the same thing. And then if
it's and then if she doesn't have she didn't have
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like a black I was wearing a black dress one day,
she didn't have a black dress, and she just lost
like wouldn't what didn't want to go out? It was
like a whole and I.
Speaker 3 (38:11):
Was it's like you we were at a ski trip
when Kate was like a little baby. She didn't go
not a baby baby, but she didn't go out nder
the snow because she didn't like the color white. Like
she literally stayed, no, that's what you.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Said, Yes, but it was because I didn't want to
get I didn't want to wear pants. Well that was
yet did you get the snowsuit on?
Speaker 3 (38:32):
Right? You wanted to wear like a snows I.
Speaker 2 (38:36):
Wanted to wear a dress. I wanted to wear a dress.
Speaker 1 (38:39):
And because we were in like sun dance where I
had to put on a snowsuit, and so I said,
I'm not going outside.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
I just don't like white.
Speaker 3 (38:48):
You don't like the color I don't like She wouldn't
go out of the house because he didn't like the
color white the only way and a.
Speaker 1 (38:57):
Lot like because mom knew she knew my secret. She
knew I didn't want to ever.
Speaker 3 (39:01):
Wear pants, right, didn't want to wear pants?
Speaker 1 (39:03):
Oh so funny for like for like almost two years. Yes,
I wouldn't put pants. I would like rather fritterally.
Speaker 3 (39:12):
You would just go ski in like a mini.
Speaker 2 (39:19):
So funny.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
But yeah, do you remember that trip because you were
really little. I do remember. I remember. You know.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
What I remember from that trip was some room with
a bunch of ball pit.
Speaker 3 (39:31):
Yeah, ball What was that crazy ballpit?
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, that's all I remember. It was inside the.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
House, inside the house. I remember the house. I don't know.
I think it was in the pool. I think the
balls were on top of a pool.
Speaker 1 (39:45):
No, no, no, it was just yeah, I bet it
was like a party house.
Speaker 2 (39:50):
And we just don't really remember.
Speaker 3 (39:52):
We were I'm sure they.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Wasn't Mom's singles and mom was single.
Speaker 3 (39:57):
Yeah. Yeah, it was the eighties. They were all going
crazy and we were in the ball pit. Mom. They're like,
they're like, just go in the ball pit.
Speaker 2 (40:08):
Mother.
Speaker 3 (40:11):
That's when I fell off a chairlift for the first time,
and I still remember it. Oh.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
I was thinking about that the other day when we
were on a chairlift, you and I together, and remember
we were thinking about the high alpine chairlift and Caller
and Aspen and how we used to go up there
and there was like no nothing on it.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
There was no bar. Yeah, it was like hanging.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
From like, oh, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
No, I know, I would.
Speaker 1 (40:34):
Never let my kids do that, Like I think about,
like I if that was the way the chairlifts.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Were now, I would never want my kids to ski.
Speaker 3 (40:44):
My problem is the boys all go skiing now on
their own with their friends, and they don't put the
bar down because they think it's like cool, and I'm like,
put the bar down. What's the difference? Yeah, and they
don't think it's cool, so they'd like leave it up.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
I did that too, though, Remember I don't when they
first started the bar, we didn't put the bar down
because we were cool.
Speaker 3 (41:06):
Whenever I go on a lift with other people, I
get insecure about wanting to put the bar down because
I don't want them to think I'm like scared. So
I'm like, we get like halfway up, I'm like put
it down, like coming down, just like say it, try
to say it with authority, like coming down.
Speaker 2 (41:29):
It's so funny.
Speaker 1 (41:31):
I don't have any of those issues now I do.
It's weird, like and what is that? Why do you
not have the fear when you're younger, but you do
have the fear when you're older.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
There's more at stake falling off the lift and dying.
There's more you're leaving behind. I guess my problem is
if I don't put the bar down, I have this
equal fear that I'm gonna I'm gonna fall, and then
and then on the other side like that I'm gonna jump.
Like I get this weird feeling like I'm gonna go.
I have that feeling like it's weird sense of like.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
See, I do things like every time I'm on and
I'm like, so if this falls, if the bars down
and we're we're falling, what do I do?
Speaker 3 (42:17):
Do you mean the whole thing comes off the cable? Yeah,
oh you're dead. Anyway, you're gonna break something.
Speaker 2 (42:24):
I mean depending on how not if you not, if
you can figure out.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
From the time you fall the time you.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Hit the ground, however your reflexes are.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
Fast, well maybe you could because jumping, Like think about
how long in your brain it is when you jump.
What would if you had to jump from there to there?
That would take a long time. But what would you
do if the bar was up the down? Just scream
and fall? No, the thing is it's all about the bar.
You have to figure out how to get the bar
up fast.
Speaker 3 (42:55):
But if you hit the ground, whether the bar is
down or up, you're still going to splat.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
Well, no, you have to like you have to like
roll into it.
Speaker 3 (43:04):
You're talking, But you know, I just skied in Snowbird
and we heard this story which I think has made
the boys put the bar down so recently. This this happened,
a tree fell and hit the cable and the guy
didn't have a bar down and it catapulted. Was clean,
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and everyone else with the bars down just got like
they hit the bar and they were still in their thing.
But the guy didn't got catapulted out of the whole
thing in the ground and I didn't die. Oh no.
And did you ever see that rush that that video
in Russia?
Speaker 2 (43:41):
No I know, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
The chair lift it's going backwards, going.
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Crazy.
Speaker 3 (43:48):
It's crazy.
Speaker 2 (43:49):
How does not even happen?
Speaker 3 (43:51):
I don't know. It's just malfunctioned. Kept going back like
a thousand miles an hour. People are flying off that
thing and they just called it they stacking up jack.
Speaker 1 (44:00):
I would have literally jumped, That's what I'm saying. I
think about this. You're like, okay, what do you do?
You have to jump?
Speaker 3 (44:06):
If the chair lift started to go backwards like really
fast like that but I was near the top, I
would the bar would be down, you got your place,
you put your feet on. I would keep my skis on,
hang off the bar, going towards, going in the same direction,
find the right place, and then drop. And then it's
like you have a momentum going down.
Speaker 2 (44:26):
Watch her. That's a great idea.
Speaker 3 (44:29):
Yeah, that's that's what I would do. And then and
then and then we gotta go soon. But I'm gonna
leave you with this.
Speaker 1 (44:35):
Yeah, I gotta go because I have to take I
gotta get it.
Speaker 3 (44:37):
Yeah, I gotta go to But there's also stuff that
this season, like Big Sky some other places where the
wind is blowing so hard and these people are on
these chair lifts and it's like insane.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
Really, why didn't they close the well?
Speaker 3 (44:52):
These little squalls come up where these one hundred mile
an hour winds are blowing and people are just they
must be freaking.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Oh my god. I never go skiking again.
Speaker 3 (45:02):
Yeah, it was freaking out.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
I wouldn't go skiing again unless it was like the
most perfect if.
Speaker 2 (45:06):
I like, I have to have a SnowCat. This is
my personal snow cat.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
It's called Katie Cat. Bringing the Katie Cat well listen.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
I'm excited for this season. I loved starting with the Bushes.
That was really fun. They're so personable. We've got a
lot of good stuff happening, and and I feel like
this was a really good catchup Sash.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
It was great. It was fun, and we'll do.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
Another one yeah throughout the season.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
Also, just for all of our listeners out there, don't
forget that to follow our show. We love doing this
for you. So there's a lot of things that you
could do to help us out.
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Send in a really awesome review.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
We would love that and hit the like button. And
I probably not even a like, but that's just what
all the YouTubers say.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
I know, I'm just doing what Russell Brand does.
Speaker 3 (46:07):
What he does.
Speaker 2 (46:08):
Yeah, he's like, don't forget, don't forget to hit follow, subscribe,
come to like some chinas. What does he called? What
do they call himself? Oh, don't forget the little bell?
Speaker 1 (46:20):
What is what does he call his like peepsation?
Speaker 3 (46:24):
Do we need to come up with? Does he have
a name for his followers like this something?
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah, they're like the Enlighteners or something.
Speaker 3 (46:31):
Again, we still have to come up with enlightenment.
Speaker 1 (46:34):
What is the what is the Hey, researcher Dan. What
is Russell Brands call his his listeners?
Speaker 2 (46:43):
God, researcher Dan, can you.
Speaker 3 (46:53):
Fire immediately?
Speaker 1 (46:54):
We like fires like researcher jet, Like what Jesus's fire
that guy too?
Speaker 3 (47:04):
While researcher dance looking that up? What what would we
call our listeners?
Speaker 1 (47:08):
Remember we didn't, Brad, didn't my publicist come up with
a good name.
Speaker 3 (47:12):
The revelers, the revelers, the rests revelers.
Speaker 2 (47:16):
It sounds like like a Mormon fundamental totally welcome to
the church, the Church of the Revelers.
Speaker 3 (47:29):
It really does.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
It literally is forgetting the wrap up signal because the
wrap up other things to be doing.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
What is he?
Speaker 1 (47:38):
What does Russell Brand call his listeners? Literally just asked
that it will answer it. No, you don't, you need
to google it?
Speaker 3 (47:50):
What does Russell Brand call his listeners?
Speaker 2 (47:53):
Watch this?
Speaker 3 (47:57):
All right? Well we'll get back to you.
Speaker 1 (48:00):
Whats trying to figure it out?
Speaker 3 (48:04):
Did Russell have a sibling?
Speaker 2 (48:07):
He'd be great, I would I would love.
Speaker 3 (48:10):
I would love him on this show.
Speaker 2 (48:13):
Interesting, he's the best.
Speaker 3 (48:16):
We should DM him.
Speaker 1 (48:20):
Okay, well we'll figure it out. We're look, guys, send
in emails. This is what I was trying to say,
hit the follow button wherever you listen to podcasts. We
would love to get any reviews and uh on feedback
and also don't forget honey Daniel totally firing, okay, And
(48:42):
we would really love for you to email us. We
love reading your emails. We definitely want to do an
email episode again this year this season. Uh, maybe we'll
get one in there uh and next season, so don't
forget to write in it's siblings submission at gmail dot
com and we'll see you.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
On on the episode.
Speaker 2 (49:06):
On the flip side.
Speaker 3 (49:14):
Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
Producer is Alison, President.
Speaker 3 (49:20):
Editor is Josh Wendish.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Music by Mark Hudson a k a. Uncle Mark.
Speaker 3 (49:25):
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