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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling, Railvalry No, no, sibling, Raval, don't
do that with your mouth, Vely.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, yeah, Not much of an intro coming, because we're
gonna talk about this next guest who's in the waiting
room right now. Her name is Alicia Silverstone and I
had such a massive crush on her during Clueless and
I was like, you have to work with her. We
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did a movie called Mary Little Xmas. I think that's
the fuck movie. I always get it wrong at Christmas
movie for Netflix. Really fun. She's awesome and we got
to know each other very well. We had so much fun.
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She's such a good mom. She's so many things that
are good, and she's so talented and just producing and
just killing it as usual. So I'm not gonna do
much of an intro here because she's enough of one.
Bring her in.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
Hello, Oh there she is, there are you right now?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
I'm in Colorado. My boys just left today, so now
I get a little time with just Aaron to hang,
but I think I'm too attached to my kids. Well duh, no,
I know, but I don't know if it's unhealthy. It's
finely not unhealthy, but I don't know. I just love
them being around.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, of course, you know it's normal.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
I know. Well, you got to witness it really firsthand
with Wilder and myself for those that don't know, we
just did a movie together in Wilder plays our son
in the movie, so at least you got to see
all of me, how I parent, what my relationship is
like with my boy. Yeah. Yeah, it was fun. So
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how are you. I'm tired. You get some sleep. We rested.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
I'm going to do adr for our movie right after this,
Oh you are, Yeah, And I've been on a press tour,
so I'm I'm I'm coming back to life today. But
the weekend I.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Was exhausted for this new movie.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Yeah. For for well, the Pretty Thing just came out,
that film with Justin Kelly directing and Carl Glessman is
in it with me, and I love that movie and
that's out right now. And then I the show that
came out yesterday is Irish Blood.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, oh it's out.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Yeah. Remember when I be working on it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yes, that and stuff.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
So I that's what it came out yesterday.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So you've been doing press.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Ye for that mass suppressing.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Are you happy with it?
Speaker 1 (03:31):
I am.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I'm really good. Yeah, because you were producing it and starring.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Yes.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
And is that something that you've done a lot of
versus relatively new No.
Speaker 1 (03:40):
I did my I produced Excess Baggage with Benitha and
Christopher Walken. That was my first time. And then I
produced the show for kids called brace Face. We made
seventy five episodes of this animated show, and then I
produced quite a few other things along the way, but
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most recently, I produced our movie that we did in
Wherever we Were Toronto and Irish Blood. And Irish Blood
was the you know, I came on in really really
early stages, so it was just an idea, why you
do it? And so it gave by producing it gave
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me the opportunity to be involved with every creative hire
and all.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
You know.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
I worked on all the scripts, I worked on the edit,
I worked on all all aspects, and that I think
was really rewarding in this.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
All right, let's go back a little bit. Okay, where
did you grow up?
Speaker 1 (04:42):
I grew up in San Francisco like Bay Area.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Yeah, yeah, Bay Area and lived there until you moved
to l A. Was that your home base?
Speaker 1 (04:53):
I lived in the Bay Area. We lived in s
first I was born, and we went to San Bruno,
then Stan Carlos, then Hillsboro and those are all in
the area. And then so we had quite a few
moves in that time. But then I moved to LA
when I was fourteen, and then and I went and
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lived on this woman's couch kind of thing for a while,
and then my parents followed me later, and then I
moved out and then lived behind the Chateau Marmont for
a while.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Oh you did, Wait a minute, So you left when
you were fourteen to go pursue acting in Los Angeles?
Was that correct? Before that though? Were you a drama kid?
Were you acting? Is this what you wanted to do?
Were you out of the womb sort of singing and
dancing so to speak?
Speaker 1 (05:42):
Basically, when I was little, I did what I think
all kids do, right they. I mean I don't all kids,
but most kids are putting on shows for their parents,
I think, and singing and whatnot. And my favorite thing
to do with my friends was to dance. So we
would put on the dancing shows and they were so ridiculous,
I'm sure, but someone named Pat Forrest saw me when
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I was like five and told my dad like, she's
gonna be a star, and I'm sure that that gets
said to every kid's parents and then the thing. But
I just really loved theater. And so basically my dad
saw me at school in a play and said, you know,
it wasn't even a play, it was like, you know,
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open house, doing a scene in the room, and he said,
you're really good. I think at that point I was twelve.
So he put me in acting classes at twelve, and
I started doing these classes with Judio O'Neil and she
would come every month and I'd spend a weekend with
these older kids, you know, seventeen year olds and sixteen
year olds and it was just so exciting and people
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didn't like their parents, and people were emotional and it
was just juicy.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Yeah, And I think.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
That's where I realized, oh, do you feel like people?
This feels like real and deep and thoughtful and gritty,
and it's not just like surface stuff at school, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, was your dad a performer?
Speaker 1 (07:08):
He wanted to be when he was little and he
but he was a chef. He went he had restaurants
like cook like a cook and so he had like
Monty Sandwich Shop and things like that, and he got
into real estate instead. But I think he definitely he
plays Fagan in all of her in the you know,
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theater thing he.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Can okay, right, so his heart and soul is a performer, right,
he feels.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Like yeah, and my mom too, I think, oh really,
neither of them did any you know, like my mom
could do every accent really really and she speaks like
four languages or she did, and she she was a
flight attendant for pan Am.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Oh wow during like when during that heyday Oh yeah,
ah wow, and she was it's like celebrity status almost.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
I mean, I don't think they got that. I think
we think of them like that.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Now we've glorified it maybe a little bit because.
Speaker 1 (08:13):
I don't remember her feeling right, you know. But she
would go and come back you know a week later
or whatever. And yeah, but she I think when I
think she had if she had trained, she could have
acted for sure, just didn't you know.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
So how do you go to LA when you're fourteen? Like,
how does that work.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Yeah, I know. Well Bear's fourteen, and that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
I know. Imagine Bear right now saying hey, Mom, later, babe,
like I'm going to New York and I'm going to go,
you know, into the end of the theater world by myself.
Different times though, for different times.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
And I also think because my dad had that desire
in him and for you know, for whatever reason, didn't
pursue that. So I think because of that, he was
very open to me going and pursuing this dream. Judy
O'Neill was this sort of manager of these acting classes
that would happen for a whole weekend in a hotel
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once a month. And this was so exciting. I mean,
it was just so imagine like being away for a weekend,
staying in a hotel with all these older kids. It
was just such trouble. I loved it. And at that
time I was pretty narcoleptic. I would just fall asleep
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for probably trauma, you know, just like.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Right, just right, just checked out, just I just need
to check out for a second. I'll be back right.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
But at one point and I sucked. I was not
good at all. And there was a boy class you
weren't I wasn't good at all.
Speaker 2 (09:57):
You knew you weren't.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
No, I knew. I would just get up and giggle.
And I think that was good for my school, but
not for our standards getting work. And now I was
amongst other people who were older than me and had
been studying for a while, and they were great. And
Jonah Blackman was this kid who I knew about Jonah
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Blackman before I met Judah, Jonah Blackman, because he was
like a celebrity in our town because he had done
a milk commercial, you know, and he danced with Rishnikov.
He was and I was in love with him, and
no matter how many times everybody told me he was gay,
I was like, he's not gay. He told me he's
not gay and defended, and I was in love with
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him and by them. We were in love with each
other for a minute. And then of course he ended
up being gay. But and Jonah and I were like,
we had this moment where you know that song it
must have been love.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Of course, it must have been love, but it's so
over now.
Speaker 1 (11:02):
That was our song of the summer. I was just
pining for him anyway, the point being all I did
is stare at him and giggle in class like I
wasn't taking it very seriously. But one day I got
a scene with a meat ielman who I'm going to
go see a play of his he wrote next week,
but he was. He and I did the scene together,
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and for some reason, I finally dropped into whatever real truth.
I finally got it, and then everything started to click,
and then I and then they asked me, oh, we're
having the summer thing where you can come live with
us for a summer. And it's like the chosen kids
from the class would go and the summer. So I did,
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and this was my first introduction to la I think
it was between my freshman and sophomore year.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (11:50):
And I went and lived with Judy for the summer.
And then I, you know, we did a showcase and
at the showcase. After the showcase, and I knew I
was going in my scenes. Then I could feel that
I knew what I was now. And after the showcase,
she said everyone needs to go mingle and talk to
these casting directors and these agents. I had no interest
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because I didn't I didn't even know what that meant, right.
I just liked acting and I liked the theater aspect
of it. I didn't know that you could eat movies
or TV. It just didn't even occur to me. Yeah,
I didn't really know what I was doing there, and
so I didn't go meet anyone. I stayed in the back,
and I was quite shy about the whole thing. And
then the next day she sort of went around and
told everybody who they had meetings with based on the showcase.
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And I had a lot of meetings and I found
my agent through that, and I started going out on
a million things. But then I had to go back
at the end of the summer to go back to.
Speaker 2 (12:43):
School, right to finish school.
Speaker 1 (12:46):
I did finish school, so I went to sophomore year
and that stopped. My first semester of sophomore year, I
was literally flying back and forth.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
To LA, are you booking jobs?
Speaker 1 (12:55):
Not yet? It was like I was getting really close,
and I think that's when I started to book. Like
the first job was a pizza commercial and a telephone
company thing, and then I got The Wonder Years. But
I think that I think that must have happened around
that time, the one The Wonder Years, and then this
show Me and Nick was a pilot I made, and
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then and then it wasn't until I don't know what.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
Oh I know.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
Then for the next off for the second part of
sophomore years, when my parents said, you can't just like
live there and keep going back and forth. We'll come,
We'll come setup shop there, and so so I went
to Beverly Hills High for my second semester of school,
and that's when I got the crush. Was like right
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before I was supposed to go into my junior year.
And I was so excited because I had just gotten
into the dance program as an extra. Like Beverly Hills
High has this dance program that it's so hard to
get into. Auditioned and I got to be like an
either there's two people that got the role of like
you're not actually in the company, but you're kind of
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you get to practice with the company. Yeah, and I
got in. And I also got into the drama club.
It was really hard to get into it. So I
was so excited and then oh, well I got the
crush instead.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Oh my gosh, wait, wonder years. That was that like
one of your first real gigs.
Speaker 1 (14:30):
Well, me and Nick was my first thing, but that
didn't getting picked up.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
Okay, got it, but then it was Wonder Years. We
were actually on television yep. And was that a new
art for you because you were so used to theater.
There was no technical I mean, theater is technical, of course,
but getting in front of a camera learning how to
sort of find light, hitting a mark, all of that
stuff or did that come naturally?
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't think I did, and I didn't definitely didn't
know how to find light hit marks. I don't think.
I think you just learn on the job. And the
Wonder Years, I kept auditioning for this one part that
I didn't get the part that I was auditioning for,
but it was down to me and this girl, Lisa Gurber,
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and we kept we became friends because we just kept
seeing each other at these auditions. It was just her
and I. No one could decide between the two of us.
I was a little bit older than her, and anyway,
they ended up going with her, And so they threw
me this other episode with with Fred Savage where he,
you know, he's asking me on a date and I
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and I say yes. Then he has to go learn
how to drive. But yeah, that was my I guess
that was the first.
Speaker 2 (15:46):
And then Crush was to sort of jump off. So
what was what was what was that? The crush? And
who was in that with you?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I was just carry always right and Jennifer Rubin, is.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
That kind of what prepared held you, you think into
the next stage of your career? That movie it was.
Speaker 1 (16:05):
Yeah, I mean that was my first film and it
came out and it was like kind of a little
bit of a cult loved movie. You know, it had
a it had its own weird you know. Following it
it I ended up getting two MTV Movie Awards for
Best Actress or the Best Newcomer and Best Villain and
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and it Yeah, I mean then tons of things happened
yet of that for.
Speaker 2 (16:36):
Sure, So the crush and then getting into the Clueless thing.
Did you have to audition for Clueless or did you
offered Clueless?
Speaker 1 (16:44):
Well, but after the crush, I did eight more movies
or no, seven more, no eight more movies before Clueless happened.
And so I went off to Paris to do this
movie with James Gondolfini and this French director, and this
was called Le nouvem with Alan Cornet. He was so
special and that was interesting. And then I did like
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The Babysitter and I died away with Jeff Goldblum. The
Aerosmith videos happens all sprinkled into this where you know,
Marty Callner, who is the director of the Aerosmith videos,
he saw the crush and asked me to do the
Aerosmith videos. And apparently Amy Heckerling says she saw the
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Aerosmith videos and wanted me to be in Clueless. But
I met with her and she tells a story of
me sitting across from her and I had ordered whatever
drink I had and there was a straw in it,
and I never picked the glass up to drink the straw.
I would just put bob my head down to get
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the stroke to drink, and I get him back up.
And I think that's where she thought that this was
perfect for the part, and like some kind of deep sense,
you know, and yeah, just a little baby.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
That is funny.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
So we I and she had already picked me. But
then I guess I needed to do some kind of
screen test with for Fox. It was going to be
at Fox, and that's when I went off to Paris
to do lenou Vemonde. And that's when I was there,
at some point doing this film, a fax came in
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for me. Remember facts?
Speaker 2 (18:27):
Oh yeah, yeah, I got.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This really long facts saying Scott Ritten's taken on the project.
And so now we're back and we're going to do
it at Paramount and so that's what we did. We
went and then we started casting.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
So your character, I mean, it's obviously there's a specificity
to share, right. Did you have to work on that
that that just come out of you when you read
the dialogue or was the dialogue written in there? Like
the as ifs and all this stuff? And because you
created something there, this is not Alicia Silverstone necessarily. There's
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parts of you, for sure. I mean, there's that innocence,
there's that cute I mean I was I told you
I was completely head over heels in love with you.
You know. I was trying to find you.
Speaker 1 (19:13):
You didn't work very hard to.
Speaker 2 (19:14):
Find I know, but I was like, where is she?
I don't want to get ahold of her. There's no
cell phones. I was like, what do I do? Like
if she lives Thomas Guide, I'm trying to figure it out.
Couldn't figure it out. But how did you did it
just come out of you? Basically?
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Well, I thought of myself as a very serious actress
at that time.
Speaker 2 (19:33):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
You know I had I had not done a comedy yet.
Everything I had done was like, uh, I think I'd
even done a play at that I played a coked
out lesbian who overdoses on cocaine in an Orthodox Jewish play.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
God, it sounds like made up, you know, just like
a joke, cleanly made up.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
But I did that. So I was doing, you know,
things to stretch myself. The people I looked up to
at the time was like Jody Foster and durn Jody
Foster for her that she was directing so young. I
thought that was so cool. And then Laura turned because
I saw her in Smooth Talk and I did this
scene from Smooth Talk, and you know, she was so good.
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And so these were the people that I was interested in.
So when Clueless came about, I think I was ready
to sink my teeth into this interesting part. And what
was so I didn't think I was funny at all,
So I thought, oh, that's going to be tricky. But
someone Carolyn, who I was my manager at the time,
she said, the funniest thing about you is how seriously
you take yourself right. I'm going to go with that
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lean into the seriousness of everything, have it be, you know,
And I think that is what comedy really is. It's
just committing. It's just you're committing one hundred percent to
what you're to me. They're not even any different, to
be honest, It's just, you know, it's only different in
how they're put together in the end. But the work
you have to do is the same work. You have
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to believe what you're saying, you have to feel what
you're feeling. And so yeah, I think I remembered these
girls that I thought were total bitches in high in
junior high and that and in high school and stuff,
who you know, thought they were so stuck up about
how they dressed and how you were. And I just
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used that and used that memory of them and my
imagination of what, you know, how they would be this
and and I think Share is really really confident. Yeah,
that was fun to just dive in. I don't know
if I knew that at the time, I wouldn't have
been able to dissect it. I think I was just
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playing each scene with her environment. She has tons of money,
she can do whatever she wants, She persuades everyone, She's
always going to get her way, and she's totally and
obviously the queen of everything, which she had decided right
like that. So that was just fun to play with.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
But it's such a fine line you had to walk,
and I think, you know, some of it is a performance,
but a lot of it is just who you are,
because ultimately you're lovable. You know what I mean to share.
You can hate her, it's easy to hate someone like that,
but there's something about you that you're like, yeah, I
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can't you know, And I'm sure that's that's your energy,
that's just who you are. But it's also that taking
it seriously, that work that layers that character rather than
just oh, I'm just going to play her like a
rich bitch.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
I think what I really realized is share. I don't
know when I thought of this or how I kind
of came to the conclusion, but my first reaction was, oh,
I don't want to you know, I was judging her.
I don't want to be one of those people. I
don't like him, right, These people have everything and spend
all this money so wastefully, Like there's nothing about this
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that is, you know, like who I am or what
I would want. But I had to remind myself, well,
you're not an actress to play yourself and I already
so it was sort of, well, what can I love
about her? And then I realized, Oh, she loves her daddy,
loves her dad, and she loves taking care of him.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
And she has a big heart in general, big heart.
Maybe he doesn't know how to you know, how to
operate the heart necessarily yet, but just a big heart.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Yeah, she's doing charity work all the time. Yeah, exactly,
just like taking in tie, you know.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Yeah, it's funny. So you got into the game because
you love being an actor. Fame, money, all that was
never really in your purview. But once sort of that hits,
once you start to get recognized like a ton and
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you become famous. Was that something you railed against or
is it just part of what you needed to accept?
Speaker 1 (24:19):
I think I railed against it for a long time. Yeah,
I have very much. You know, I think when you
there's no school for how like, there's no preparation for this,
And if you don't have anyone around you who's been
through this with someone else, how are you? You know?
Some actors have management and agents who have had many
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people before them, right, and so they can help them.
I think hopefully with this is how this goes, and oh, yeah,
maybe do this. And you know, but if you don't
have anyone in your world who's ever dealt with anything
like this before, and you don't know what you're doing,
it is incredible overwhelming. And I was not prepared in
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any way, shape or form for any of it. So
I really I bailed and I went really deep into
my activism, you know that made sense to me, and
you know, went to Africa to help elephants, and went
to the Amazon River to help with the rainforest with Woody,
and you know, was going on these trips of sort
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of discovery and living and trying to do good and yeah.
And then at one point I realized because I had
gotten so deep into it, you know, I was writing books.
I wrote The Kind Diet, I wrote The Kind Mama,
and I had started a website, the Kind Life, and
I was so involved with that, and then I think
one day it occurred to me, like I really love acting,
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and why can't I do both? And the thing is
is you have to kind of start all over because
you shut all these doors to me, you know I did.
That never occurred to me when I went fuck you
went out. Yeah, I didn't go to be that. They
wouldn't be right there waiting when I came back.
Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, no, I know. That's like, Wait a minute, Yeah
I'm still here. Wait a minute. Did you Did you
start like, like the first healthy baby formula and all that?
Or am I wrong about that?
Speaker 1 (26:18):
I created the first ever non GMO verified, certified organic,
non like, non GMO no fili vitamins I don't do it.
Vitamins right, didn't exist anymore.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
It doesn't.
Speaker 1 (26:32):
Okay, my kind Organix, but we did it for ten
years and it was great.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Wow. But you were at the forefront of that. Yeah,
I started it, was started it the company. Yeah, good
for you. God, I wish I had your ambition and
follow through. I'd be huge right now.
Speaker 1 (26:49):
Well, it came from a neat like I've often even
the book I wrote, the Kind Diet, It came because
I needed that book. I needed it didn't exist the
way all like, I was handing out different books to
different people. But I wanted one book that I could
hand to everyone. I had to make it, And that's
sort of how I arrive at these things.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Have you had you always been sort of an environmentalist
or into activism or do you think your celebrity and
the fame sort of took you into that direction because
you needed to focus on something real, something that was important.
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Well, it was in my it was in my DNA
and it was all right. Yeah, my mom and I
would be driving down the street and see a dog running,
a stray dog and stop the car. We were on
a freeway and we stopped the car. I remember running
down the freeway try to catch this dog, you know,
like we weren't which is not safe by the okay,
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but well meaning, very well meaning, but not safe. But
but you know, they're European and I was. I was trustworthy,
Like I didn't drive and I didn't dive into traffic.
I was on the edge of the road, but still
running down the freeways not I do we do that?
Speaker 2 (28:02):
And I would.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
We'd stop and we'd save dogs and cats, all mostly dogs.
And so I learned about rescue through my mom for sure.
And when I was eight years old, I was with
my brother and my mom in England and we were
in the countryside and I heard the crying of these
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cows like it was wailing, and I didn't know what
it was, and I asked, what is that and she said,
ask the farmer, and the farmer said, well, all the
babies are being taken away from their moms today.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
And I was like, what like that like held a
smile on his face.
Speaker 1 (28:38):
I was just normal, It's just.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Part of their pactice.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
Yeah, yeah, get milk, Yeah, get milk unless you take
unless you impregnate a cow and then take the milk
away from the baby so that you can give it
to the human. And so it's not natural in any way,
shape or form. I think I used to think the
cow would explode if they didn't get to give their
milk to you, they had so much milk. But that's
just not how works. And then I was on the plane,
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so that really hit me, like someone taking your child
and the crying and screaming of this. And then when
and I was eight, and then when I was on
the airplane going home and we were sitting there and
I think they put lamb on my plate, and my
brother was like making the sound of lamb as a brother,
an older brother, of course, and thank god he did,
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because it made me, oh my god, this is an animal,
like you know when you're a kid and you're just
being fed. You don't think about where your food came from.
But the reality of this actually I was like, this
is lamb. This is actually a lamb. And then I
went home and just tried to be vegetarian on my own,
and my dad was supportive. He got me this book.
But I mean, try giving an eight year old a
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dry book about being vegetarian, right, sort of, it was
short lived. The principle, I mean, the principal was there,
but the actions of it were short lived. I just
ate a lot of ice cream in French fries and
it didn't make any sense. And then eventually I saw
documentary on how we get our food, and after that
I was done. I was just like, look at myself
(30:07):
in the mirror anymore and say, you're good. You're contributing
to the animals doing well, like you are a part
of the problem and until you stop, it's not going
to stop.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
And it's still a massive part of your life, right
it is.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
I mean I have found balance to just live my life,
go where I'm asked, present it as best I can,
and hope that it inspires people. I mean, look, when
I made these changes, Yes, I did it for the animals.
But what happened to me was I was on an
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asthma and hailer twice. I had an asthma and haler
every single day. I had allergy shots twice a week.
I was taking antibiotics three times a year at least
for bronchitis. Wow had acne. I had all these things
that are like normal in our society. And I, you know,
if I had continued that way, who knows what happened
(31:04):
to me like at this And I always thought it
was good karma that I got to ditch all of that.
I ditched the asthma, Hayler, all of that went away
when I changed my diet. And I didn't know that
that was going to happen. That was the miracle. So
it drastically changed my life. And it changed Marty. You
know Marty Callner who I was telling you about, who
(31:26):
did the Arismith videos. Like a few years after I
had gone vegan. He said, I have all these health issues,
like serious health issues. And I said, well, let's go
out to dinner. And we went to dinner. At this
it was called Patina at the time. Now if you
remember that restaurant French and they used to do these
amazing vegan tasting menus. And so I had them do
(31:46):
a vegan tasting menufood for us, and I gave him
this book by doctor Neil Bernard called Food for Life,
and I said, Marty, all of these things that you
have can go away. We can get rid of all
of them. He was like really, And he went home
and devoured that book and went vegan. And he lived
(32:06):
a longer life because of those choices that he changed
his life. And he was a poster child because everyone
who knew Marty before and then who knew Marty after this?
He lost all this weight, he became so like healthy.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
I couldn't believe it, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:20):
Yeah. And what about Bear? I mean, does Bear have
any desire interest in meat or anything at all? Or
and if he did, are you okay with the experimentation
of that as a young kid.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Well, when Bear was like five years old, he wanted
to taste ham because the kid in his class had
ham who was his best friend. And I said, you
can taste it. I said, I'll never have it at
the house. You can taste it for sure, And then
I don't think he ever did. And then we were
at this pizza place, you know, Blaze's Pizza where you
can pick everything to put on your pizza. And there
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was a little you know how there's like a glass
partition and a little piece of pepperoni had come under
the petition and he looked okay, and I said, I
go ahead, Bear, you can have it. And he was like,
I said you can have it, and he was like
and he didn't take it. So it's like he wanted
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it to try, but then he also didn't. So I
can make the choices. He he's such a great cook
that if he you know, he really likes the look
of fried chicken sandwiches. He's got yeah eye on that.
So he makes them at home with tofu. He takes
like blocks of tofu, breads them friesing makes these amazing sandwiches.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's crazy. And knows they're getting older at fourteen, fifteen,
sixteen seventeen. You know, look, I hate to tell you this,
but he's going to lose his virginity. I know, it's all.
It's just going to happen, you know, because he is
so sweet. I was lucky, you know, to meet him,
and he's just so sweet. But he's got that boy
stuff like you can tell you know what I mean,
(34:08):
I know, and it's so hard to let him go.
Oh gosh, Wilder is going to be leaving for college
next year, and although I got two more, but just
walking past his room. We've talked about this on set,
but just walking past his room and him not being there,
I don't know if I can deal with that. I mean,
I'm going to be not just crying when he leaves.
I'm going to be emotional maybe forever, I don't know.
(34:30):
I mean, eventually I'll heal. But I think you.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Should just move wherever he is. Well, you have three,
so that makes me no, like, yeah, yes, some one
told me recently, which I can't even imagine because I'm
still like, no, I only have him, So I'm definitely
moving wherever close enough he won't have to know I'm there,
a little apartment.
Speaker 2 (34:52):
No, No, I know, Wilders deciding at schools. There's possible
New York or maybe Colorado. And then he's talking about
Santa Barbara when I'm like, oh, Santa Barbae, that's only
like an hour and a half, two hours away, where
you're further enough away, I will not bother you. And
it's part it is a party.
Speaker 1 (35:08):
School, but the location's good.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
I don't know, I know and I know all right,
last stuff, just generally, are you a happy girl in
your life? You know you're doing stuff now, You're you're
you're you're acting your tail off. You know you're producing.
I mean, I know a lot about you that we
won't talk about, but you know, are you? Are you?
Are you happy? Are you content?
Speaker 1 (35:32):
Don't you think? I what do you think? Do you
think I seem like a content here?
Speaker 2 (35:36):
You do? You do? I just think that you. I
just I think you're extremely content. But you are a
lover by nature, and you want someone to love with
and to love you and for you to love someone deeply.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Yes, all yes are true? Yes, yeah, I think everything
else is set. Like I love my job. I just
got to do Yorgo's Lanthemos. This movie that's coming back
is exciting and and I get to I'm going to
Venice Film Festival in a week. And I'm so lucky
(36:13):
to have some really good friends and I and I
love Most importantly, I just am obsessed with my son,
I know, being with him, and we want We're watching
Stranger Things right now, and David Harber and I are
good pals because we worked together on a play a
long time ago. And anyway, so I give him the
(36:35):
play by play as i'm watching it, like or whatever.
But but Bear, like, you know, he's well, I probably
shouldn't talk that bear because he won't, you know. But anyway,
get some snuggles, and I don't I don't want them
to be taken away by him hearing this.
Speaker 2 (36:51):
No, no, no, I'm still you know.
Speaker 1 (36:54):
He's just uh, you know, he's my favorite. And I
have a good life and I'm so lucky, Like we're
so lucky that we're eight and that we're healthy and
that we have great food to eat. And I feel
like we are not surviving, we are thriving.
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Yeah, good, well, I miss you.
Speaker 1 (37:18):
I miss you too.
Speaker 2 (37:19):
It's been a minute. I'm backing on the twenty eh.
And then you know, let's figure it out. You get
a ventity thing.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
Tell everybody about you in this movie. But maybe that's
not right now, that's coming late.
Speaker 2 (37:31):
Yeah, we did a movie together. It's going to be great.
Speaker 1 (37:33):
It's so good in it.
Speaker 2 (37:35):
Thanks, Yeah, I I you know, I did. Deity R.
We've been texting. It's hard to look at yourself. It's
just hard to look at yourself. I as we get older,
you know, and we just say you just got to
deal with it now. Lighting is obviously a thing in
some scenes. I thought we're better than others, but you know,
it is what it is. I'm an old man. I
don't like to watch my shit anymore.
Speaker 1 (37:57):
No, It's like when you look really good and there's
no lighting, because it's just like you're outside. Yeah that's
concerning because you go, I look good and I'm outside
and no lights are on me, and then you put
some lights on me and I don't look good.
Speaker 2 (38:10):
Yes. Shoot, that's what I'm saying. I want no makeup,
no lights, just like me alone.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
No.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
I had such a fun time working with you. We
had We had such a blast. We connected immediately, you know,
very open with each other, which is necessary, you know,
doing a movie like this, a Christmas movie. I was like, okay,
well I want to work on it. I don't want
to just phone anything in, you know. And I was
hoping that you were going to be game, and you
(38:41):
were beyond game. You know. It was like, well, let's
get together, let's work on these scenes that's figured out.
This shit doesn't make sense, and of course we've got
our crazy director who's you know, going every which way.
But I had a blast with you. I had so
much fun.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
It was so fun, and I was so sweet that
that first day we all you, me and Wilder were
acting like a family. In the airport.
Speaker 2 (39:01):
You were carrying. That was amazing because carrying your bag
it's like your passport.
Speaker 1 (39:07):
We had a good time. You're really good fun to
act opposite.
Speaker 2 (39:10):
So thanks, Well we'll do it again.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
It'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (39:15):
I release so good to talk to you. I have
the best time in Venice. Thank you, lucky girl. And
let's link up when when you get home. Let's figure
something out.
Speaker 1 (39:25):
And say hi to Wilder for me, I will hey bye.
Speaker 2 (39:32):
Miss Alicia's stone, fun, smart, talented, all the above, very cool,
fun to work with, a little intimidated at first. It's like,
oh she's gonna be cool. I just never know, but
you know, I kind of can get along with anyone,
(39:53):
and she's definitely easy to get along with. We had
a great time. Yeah, Christmas movie. I don't know when
this episode's releasing, but I think I think our movie
releases like November twelfth or thirteenth or something. Christmas movie
for Netflix really sweet, really sweet movie. It's what you
think it is. You know, don't expect, you know, any
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explosions or blood or you know, intense scenes. It's just
a fun holiday movie that's very sweet.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Just like me.
Speaker 2 (40:27):
Oliver Relij Hudson. Bye.