August 11, 2025 • 28 mins
Oliver flies solo and contemplates life: the good, the sad, the Gilmore!
From his golf dreams coming true in his latest role in “Happy Gilmore 2” to how he’s preparing for his first born heading off to college, Oliver is talking it through. Plus, hear about his recent diagnosis and how he plans to work with it… not against it!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Railvalry, No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. Oliver relis Hudson here reporting live from my
own mind. I'm on a solo mission. It's just me.
You're only going to be hearing my voice for as
(00:53):
long as I choose to stay on this podcast episode.
I'm sitting my room. I'm looking at my chandelier, which
is not in line with the table underneath, and it
hasn't been for ten years yet I refuse to move.
The table outside my window is the inside of the
(01:19):
fence that when the kids were into graffitiing and doing pieces,
as they call them, they used the back of this
fence to create their artwork. And I like it. And
that's where I am right now. I'm alone in my house.
My family is in Colorado. I just finished a job.
(01:43):
I can't say what it is. Well, it's not like
that big of a deal, but I'm hosting a baking competition.
I'll just say that first time being a host of something.
I really like it. I think it suits me because
(02:04):
I get to talk like I am right now and
dive into people's lives and make attempts at being funny,
hamming it up for the camera, just being authentically Oliver
Rutledge Hudson. So it was fun. Though, it was very,
(02:25):
very fun. I had a great time, and then, of
course I wasn't happy Gilmore too. I guess this is
just a podcast of me just ripping off my credits
and what I've been up too lately. But no, I
was in Gilmore too, and it was so much fun.
I spent a month there. I haven't talked about it yet,
(02:46):
just because I haven't. I got to work with Scotti,
Shuffler and Rory McElroy and Brooks Kepka and Bryson de Shambeau.
You know, it's the top golfers in the world, and
I'm a golfer myself, so it was just a treat.
I was there for a month. It was so much fun.
You know, Sandler's one of the greats. I've known him
for a long time. Drop name drop, you know, relationship drop.
(03:11):
And I got to play a character that well not
even a character. I got to do something as an
actor that I've never gotten to do before, which is
play a weird ass character. His name is Harley if
you haven't seen the movie, and he's a golfer that
is basically genetically modified and could hit the ball a
(03:34):
thousand yards. I had no idea what I was getting into.
When Sandler says, you know, I want you to be
in a movie, you just say, yeah, you know, do
you want to read the script? Whatever? Sure I can,
but I don't care if you say that you want
me to be in something, I'm in. And I got
lucky enough that it was Happy Gilmore too, which of
course is an iconic you know, the first one is
(03:54):
iconic so much of my childhood and lines from that movie,
you know, and uh so yeah it was. I didn't
know what the hell I was doing. I get I
get to work the first day, and you know, looking
through costumes, I'm like, holy shit, Okay, this is real
leather skull cap with like a cutoff biker vest and
(04:16):
like chains and leather pants. And then I shaved a goatee.
And then they when I got into the makeup chair,
they just started putting makeup on me. This this stainer.
It's like a tan to make you tan, but it's
like it stains your skin. And they kept going darker
and darker until I started to turn orange and I'm like,
oh shit, I is this how far we're going? And
(04:37):
then I turned I turned into like an orange bite
Harley my name was Harley in the show An Orange Biker,
which turned out to be perfect for it because it
was just so over the top and so crazy. But
it made such a splash that movie. It's just so crazy.
It's unbelievable the amount of people that streamed it and
watched it. But yeah, I had I had an awesome time. Lucky.
(05:04):
I'm a lucky man to have been in that piece
of history. I say, that's what I say. Who needs Scorsese,
Who needs David Fincher, Who needs Spielberg? Come on, you
know what I mean? Like, who needs awards? Who needs
Emmy's Academy Awards, Golden Globes? I have Happy Gilmore too.
(05:25):
You know that's worth all that's worth, all of it.
Wouldn't trade it, would not trade it. So that was nice.
And then the other thing is Summer's just coming to
an end and it's time to get back into school mode.
(05:46):
Even though we're no longer in school. I always treat
summer as I did when I was a kid and
going to school, you know, as an adult, I'm like
with summertime, like, why are we working? It's summer? Yeah,
so what, I'm almost fifty years old, I'm forty eight,
forty ninety be forty nine in September. Yeah, so what
(06:09):
Like it's summer, We're not supposed to be working. I'm
not supposed to call anyone back during the summer. I've
got arrested development when it comes to the summer. And
now it's coming to an end, it all starts up again.
It all starts up again. And then Wilder, my oldest,
he's gonna be a senior, and so we're in the
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whole college mode. And that's hell for me because I
feel like now I'm going back and doing the applications again.
You know, I'm like, oh, fuck, man, like what this
prompt we gotta do? I have the anxiety that I'm
having to do it again, and it's much more difficult
(06:53):
than it was now, or at least there's more pressure
on it. You know, before you do your applications, remember
being helped for my parents or anyone I maybe they did,
you know, but it was all write in. Of course,
was nineteen ninety four. So I feel like I just
wrote it my essays and fill out the applications and
(07:13):
I sent them in and it was very simple. You know. Now,
I guess it's so competitive, but these you know, it's like, oh,
you need you need someone to you know, you need
a counselor oh cool, no, this school has one. No, no, no,
you need an outside counselor you know that that really
knows the ropes and it's going to do this and
that it's going to help you. And then you have
an essay writer, a guy who's gonna someone who's gonna
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help you with your essay, you know, and help craft
it and this this and that, and I'm like, damn,
really can't we just can't you just write the essay.
But I will say that it does take some pressure off.
(07:55):
But the real issue is is, honestly the expense of
some of this, Like, no way, it's not happening. Sorry,
you know, I did it this way. You can do
it this way too, you know what I mean, Like
you can write your own essay. I'll help you. Oliver
Hudson is one of the great American novelists. In case
you listening to this podcast didn't know that I am.
(08:18):
I have not written a book yet. But if I
were to write a book, everyone is already saying that
you will be the next great American novelist. So that
might come later in my life. But anyway, that whole
college experience, we'll get through it. It'll be great. You know.
The kid is deciding onto the whether he wants a
college experience or if he wants like a city experience.
(08:43):
But aside from all that, here's the sad part. One,
well not one. My firstborn is not going to be
in this house anymore. And that's crazy to me. I'm
very family connected. It is my number one priority in
my life. I have molded my entire life and career
(09:04):
around my family. Yes, you have to make sacrifices, as
we all do in our work, you know. And I'm
lucky because I get to be home for extended periods
of time and be very present. But then I'm gone
for extended periods of time. So there are certain jobs
that I wouldn't even consider doing because it would just
take me too far away For too long from my family,
and now this boy is not going to be here
(09:26):
in a year, and that is crazy. Just the idea
of walking past his room and it being empty, you know,
the nostalgia that has been built up for seventeen eighteen years.
It just lingers. You can smell it, literally, there's a scent.
(09:50):
And when they leave, and some of you listening, I'm
sure I have already experienced this. That's heart wrenching. It's gonna
take some time to get used to, I think, because
it's just another piece of energy, of life force that
is no longer you know, in this in this house
(10:12):
that makes it all run. And he's gonna be off
doing his own thing as he should. He's an amazing child.
And it's gonna hurt though. It's gonna it's crazy, you know,
definitely gonna be shedding a thousand tiers. I'm an emotional person,
(10:33):
so every time I walk by that room, I'm probably
just gonna be like, oh God, Aaron's gonna have to
get me straight. It's like, hey, Oliver, okay, look just
FaceTime him. He's right there. Everything's gonna be okay. But
now it's crazy, man, it's crazy. And then of course
it shows your own age, you know what I mean,
(10:54):
You're like, holy shit, this guy was a little butterball
just a second ago, and now he's gone. He's an adult.
He's in the world making a life for himself without us, which,
of course we'll get a thousand phone calls. And you
know that umbilical cord stretches, stretches across the globe. Really,
(11:17):
so that's what we're preparing for this year, counting the days.
But at least I still have my other two babies.
They'll be here to console me and take care of me.
(11:42):
So another thing that I wanted to talk about, and
I haven't tried it yet. I had a brain scan
and it was with this guy, his name is doctor
Amon Incredible, and I went on his podcast, my sister
and I did, and so we got to have our
brains scanned and then we got to go on his
(12:04):
podcast and sort of a fun little thing, and it
was really interesting. The process was really interesting. It was
over three days, and there was an injections and there
was imaging, and it was a whole thing and questionnaire
and an intake form and so after all of this,
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you look at your brain and it's really beautiful and incredible.
The images are amazing and through trauma, well because of trauma,
you can see certain parts of your brain that have
been affected. I mean, if you were a drug addict,
or if you were an alcohol abuser or some something
like that, you can see that. And it really is.
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It can detect add or ADHD, whatever you want to say.
Very well. Anyway, it turns out like I have it.
I mean I kind of suspected that I did, you
know what I mean, never paid any mind to it.
I just kind of went about my life, but knew
that there were certain things holding me back. So talking
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with my psychiatrist, I have a patch, a new patch,
and I don't know what the hell it is. I've
yet to try it yet, but this is going to
be something new. Maybe it's going to turn me into
just an on fire superstar who can't stop working. But
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I don't know. It's interesting. You know, we've had some
really cool people on our show, experts who talk about
it as a superpower and not really a deficiency. I
think it's about how you look at it. So I'm
excited to give it a shot. I'm excited to try
that patch. Let's see if it changes anything. I'm sure
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a lot of these listeners that I'm talking to have
dealt with their own ad D eighth And now that
I discovered AI, which I know, I'm crazy late to
the game, which I just I've been resisted it. But
you know that's where the add kind of can kick
in pretty good because I'm like, oh my gosh, like
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I can learn anything, and then i go down the
rabbit hole of AI. But I'm so late to the game.
I resisted it. It scares me. And it scared me
not meaning I go a robot's can infiltrate my brain
and take over the world, which probably will happen at
some point, but it was more of like, oh god,
(14:36):
I just kind of railing against the technology. It's just
I feel like I like analog, you know, I want
to be in nature on my boat or in the
ocean or in the woods. But I gave it a shot,
and I'm like, uh, oh, like I like this. This
is pretty cool. And I know I sound like an
(14:59):
old man right now, but you know, my mom is
way more AI than I am. She's like, honey, GPT
said this, only oh if you nicknamed him now or her?
You know, sometimes it'll be like, well, Chat said that.
I'm like, oh, now it's chat, you know, And then
my sons and my kids come up to me and like, yeah, no,
(15:19):
I asked, I asked Chat and they said that, you know,
blah blah blah x y Z. And I'm like, imagine
if you just replaced that with Paul or some sort
of a name. You know, I asked Paul about you know,
this bruise on my leg, and you know, Paul said
that it was not a big deal. I mean, we're
now speaking about chat GPT as if it is human,
(15:43):
and uh, it's it's wild. It's nutty. And I know
I sound like an old man. I know this is
old news. But anyway, my point is is, since it's
just me solo and I am an AI wizard, now
let let's ask chat gptwise for podcasts prompts. What is
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a great conversational podcast prompt? Give me four of them
to start a great conversation. See what it says. Here
are four strong podcast style conversational prompts designed to spark
great discussion, whether you're hosting show or just kicking off
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a deep talk. Okay, here we go. Number one, what's
a belief you held ten years ago that you no
longer believe and what changed your mind? Ooh gosh, No,
pass number two. If someone gave you a million dollars
to create something that could help the world, what would
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you build? Ah? That? No. Number three. What's something you've
never told anyone publicly before but you wish more people
knew about you? Well, that is something that the public
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doesn't need to know. If you could live one random
day of your life over again, not to change anything,
just to re experiencing it, what day would you pick? Well,
it probably wouldn't be my birth because actually my birth
was traumatic. My Mom's talked about it a bunch. I
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think I've even talked about it a bunch. But I
was baking in mom's belly for three weeks after my
due date back in nineteen seventy six. I guess the
idea was, eh, you know, just the baby's not right a,
just let it pop out when it pops out. Well, unfortunately,
I basically ate shit and almost died, meaning I'm aconium
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aspirated For those of you who don't know what that is.
We are fed through an umbilical cord as a as
when we're in you row and you got to take
a dump. And that's exactly what I did. But it's
in the amniotic fluid. Of course, that's what we breathe
when we're little, and boom in it goes deep into
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my lungs and maconium is a very tarry substance. And
I came out, oh my god, it's a boy. Because
my mom didn't know, and boom. I was rushed off
into nick you and I was there for three weeks
or a month, and I had a slim chance of living.
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I don't know the percentage. I think it was like
not slim, but maybe I got thirty percent chance of survival.
You know, there's needles in my head and da da
da da. But I made it. I made it. I did.
In case anyone's wondering, I did it, like I pulled through.
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So that's a day that I do not want to relive.
But when you're that little, you're newborn, the question is
does something like that affect you? Your first breath and
in my case, smelled like shit is being whisked away
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your first moments of life. Needles put in your head,
you're not near your mother, you have no skin to
skin there is no love there there is you know,
you can't be confused as a kid, but it's just
probably doesn't feel good. So has this fucked me up
from the beginning? I forget who I was talking to,
(19:51):
but someone in the field of psychology or was it
these astrologers maybe I I can't remember, but yes, the
answer was that, yeah, it does. So basically, my birth
could be the root of all my problems, which is
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weird because my birth is what gave me life to
even be here. Yet it's the root of all my problems.
This is a conundrum. I'm a conundrum. It's not really
something you can work through. You know, you don't remember it.
You can't go to a psychologist and being like, yeah,
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I really really, I want to really dig I want
to go back, oh, like your childhood, you know when
when you're having issues with your father. No, no, no, like
way back like my birth. Okay, well, how do you
tap into that anyway? So I'm not gonna go I'm
not going to relive that day. What part of your
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life looks fine on the outside but secretly feels broken.
That's interesting because I'm somewhat of a public figure, you know,
I guess It's always weird when I say that, because
I don't feel like I'm like famous really and I'm
not really, so, you know, I guess people look at
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a life, not just mine, but even celebrity life and think,
oh man, that looks great. Everything looks great. But I
don't think that's the case with most people. We're all
a bit broken. We can't not be perfect doesn't exist.
That word should not even be in the dictionary. What
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is perfect? Nothing. Life is definitely not perfect. We're all
a little damaged, you know. It's just the extremes of it.
But what part of your life looks fine on the
outside but secretly feels broken. I'd say my security in myself.
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I think from the outside perspective, I look extremely confident,
extremely secure, unafraid. We'll say anything, don't care what people think,
And that is not necessarily true. I am socially confident,
I guess, you know, but I do care what people think,
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and I just pretend that I don't. I'll say outlandish things,
but I know it's safe, you know. Strangely, I know
the things that I can kind of get away with
and say and it be safe. But I do care
what people think, and I think it's to the detriment
of my creativity, you know, because instead of just throwing
(22:48):
it all out there, I'm so worried about how it's
going to be perceived that you get smaller a little,
but you try to. You don't want to take a
risk or push an envelope for fear of someone saying,
what the hell is he doing? You know what take
was that he did? That That scene was ridiculous, you know, so,
Oh my god, I just want to make sure that
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you know I don't rock a boat and that people
like me, you know, so I do care, and I
do have that problem that I want to be liked
too much. I think I think that's an issue, you know,
that I'll go out of my way so people don't
dislike me, you know. Yeah, so that's something. And I
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don't know if I ever talked about that on this
crazy podcast. If you had to relive one moment of
shame every day for the rest of your life, what
moment would haunt you the most? Oh god, I can't
even talk about that one. I'm not going to talk
about that one. There are things we say and then
there are things we don't, but shame, shame is powerful.
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Shame is dangerous, man, Shame is shame hurts, even if
you've caused the shame. You have to give yourself grace.
You know, even if you are wrong. You know, even
if you are complicit and you are the cause of
(24:22):
your own shame. At some point in order to sort
of heal and get over that, because shame can destroy you,
you have to forgive yourself. You have to put things
into a larger perspective and say, we have one life here, So, yes,
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did I fuck up? Did I cause this? Did I
cause that? Am I taking this on? Am I feeling
shame that I shouldn't be feeling? Whatever it is, you
got to take that moment, give yourself some grace, look
at look from thirty thousand feet and forgive yourself because
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you don't want to be walking around for your entire
life feeling that shame. Free yourself of that shame. That
would be my advice, because you know it's in all
of us. Everyone knows we all have a little shame.
If the version of you from ten years ago could
see your life now, what would disappoint them the most? Ooh,
(25:30):
it's interesting, I'm forty eight. I'll be forty nine in September,
so thirty eight thirty nine. My production company is called
slow Burn Productions for a reason. I've always been a
slow burn. You know. Kate burned hot bang. You know,
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she worked her ass off to get where she is,
but you know, boom, almost famous bang on the scene.
I've always been a slow burn, you know. And it's
like boom, a little pop here, and then kind of
like what's going on? Then boom a little pop here,
and oh that's a good one, and hey, I'm kind
of on my way, and then oh, wait, no, I'm
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not on my way. So that being said, to answer
this question, if the version of you from ten years
ago could see your life now, what would disappoint them
the most? I'd probably say that I'm not further along
than I could be. I haven't really reached the potential
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that I know I have that I thought I would
probably have reached by now. Not to say you can't
keep striving, which you should, but it's double edged. I've
taked my time. You know, luck plays a factory. You
have to work hard to get lucky, and sometimes I
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don't work hard enough. I enjoy my life, I enjoy
my family, I enjoy the fun things, and sometimes that
takes precedent when maybe it shouldn't. So that's what I would,
you know, Why aren't you further along? You know? Why
aren't you you know, I don't scratch that, but it's
(27:18):
less about further along, And why aren't you doing the
things that you know you can do? Why aren't you
focusing on the creativity that you have inside of you,
that you know you can shine in. Being an actor
is great. I love being an actor, but it wasn't
the first thing that I wanted to do. I wanted
to make movies, direct movies. I have a vision in
(27:39):
my head of just life and I've always felt like
I've had sort of an odd look at life, and
I want to tell stories through my lens, you know,
And I have yet to do that, you know, because
I think I'm afraid. I think there's fear there somehow,
And yeah, so there it is, and wrap it all
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up to book end it all. Maybe we want to
get this add patch on. Maybe all that will change,
and then in another ten years, when I can answer
that question again, things will be different. Anyway. Thanks for
listening to me, just bullshit and rant for however long.
Twenty minutes or so, and uh, we'll be back next week.
(28:23):
Let me know if you like this shit, because if
we'd like if you if we like it, I can
keep doing it, you know, I keep talking and do
these solo apps. But yeah, leave a comment in below,
hit subscribe, all right, I'm out
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Railvalry, No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. Oliver relis Hudson here reporting live from my
own mind. I'm on a solo mission. It's just me.
You're only going to be hearing my voice for as
(00:53):
long as I choose to stay on this podcast episode.
I'm sitting my room. I'm looking at my chandelier, which
is not in line with the table underneath, and it
hasn't been for ten years yet I refuse to move.
The table outside my window is the inside of the
(01:19):
fence that when the kids were into graffitiing and doing pieces,
as they call them, they used the back of this
fence to create their artwork. And I like it. And
that's where I am right now. I'm alone in my house.
My family is in Colorado. I just finished a job.
(01:43):
I can't say what it is. Well, it's not like
that big of a deal, but I'm hosting a baking competition.
I'll just say that first time being a host of something.
I really like it. I think it suits me because
(02:04):
I get to talk like I am right now and
dive into people's lives and make attempts at being funny,
hamming it up for the camera, just being authentically Oliver
Rutledge Hudson. So it was fun. Though, it was very,
(02:25):
very fun. I had a great time, and then, of
course I wasn't happy Gilmore too. I guess this is
just a podcast of me just ripping off my credits
and what I've been up too lately. But no, I
was in Gilmore too, and it was so much fun.
I spent a month there. I haven't talked about it yet,
(02:46):
just because I haven't. I got to work with Scotti,
Shuffler and Rory McElroy and Brooks Kepka and Bryson de Shambeau.
You know, it's the top golfers in the world, and
I'm a golfer myself, so it was just a treat.
I was there for a month. It was so much fun.
You know, Sandler's one of the greats. I've known him
for a long time. Drop name drop, you know, relationship drop.
(03:11):
And I got to play a character that well not
even a character. I got to do something as an
actor that I've never gotten to do before, which is
play a weird ass character. His name is Harley if
you haven't seen the movie, and he's a golfer that
is basically genetically modified and could hit the ball a
(03:34):
thousand yards. I had no idea what I was getting into.
When Sandler says, you know, I want you to be
in a movie, you just say, yeah, you know, do
you want to read the script? Whatever? Sure I can,
but I don't care if you say that you want
me to be in something, I'm in. And I got
lucky enough that it was Happy Gilmore too, which of
course is an iconic you know, the first one is
(03:54):
iconic so much of my childhood and lines from that movie,
you know, and uh so yeah it was. I didn't
know what the hell I was doing. I get I
get to work the first day, and you know, looking
through costumes, I'm like, holy shit, Okay, this is real
leather skull cap with like a cutoff biker vest and
(04:16):
like chains and leather pants. And then I shaved a goatee.
And then they when I got into the makeup chair,
they just started putting makeup on me. This this stainer.
It's like a tan to make you tan, but it's
like it stains your skin. And they kept going darker
and darker until I started to turn orange and I'm like,
oh shit, I is this how far we're going? And
(04:37):
then I turned I turned into like an orange bite
Harley my name was Harley in the show An Orange Biker,
which turned out to be perfect for it because it
was just so over the top and so crazy. But
it made such a splash that movie. It's just so crazy.
It's unbelievable the amount of people that streamed it and
watched it. But yeah, I had I had an awesome time. Lucky.
(05:04):
I'm a lucky man to have been in that piece
of history. I say, that's what I say. Who needs Scorsese,
Who needs David Fincher, Who needs Spielberg? Come on, you
know what I mean? Like, who needs awards? Who needs
Emmy's Academy Awards, Golden Globes? I have Happy Gilmore too.
(05:25):
You know that's worth all that's worth, all of it.
Wouldn't trade it, would not trade it. So that was nice.
And then the other thing is Summer's just coming to
an end and it's time to get back into school mode.
(05:46):
Even though we're no longer in school. I always treat
summer as I did when I was a kid and
going to school, you know, as an adult, I'm like
with summertime, like, why are we working? It's summer? Yeah,
so what, I'm almost fifty years old, I'm forty eight,
forty ninety be forty nine in September. Yeah, so what
(06:09):
Like it's summer, We're not supposed to be working. I'm
not supposed to call anyone back during the summer. I've
got arrested development when it comes to the summer. And
now it's coming to an end, it all starts up again.
It all starts up again. And then Wilder, my oldest,
he's gonna be a senior, and so we're in the
(06:32):
whole college mode. And that's hell for me because I
feel like now I'm going back and doing the applications again.
You know, I'm like, oh, fuck, man, like what this
prompt we gotta do? I have the anxiety that I'm
having to do it again, and it's much more difficult
(06:53):
than it was now, or at least there's more pressure
on it. You know, before you do your applications, remember
being helped for my parents or anyone I maybe they did,
you know, but it was all write in. Of course,
was nineteen ninety four. So I feel like I just
wrote it my essays and fill out the applications and
(07:13):
I sent them in and it was very simple. You know. Now,
I guess it's so competitive, but these you know, it's like, oh,
you need you need someone to you know, you need
a counselor oh cool, no, this school has one. No, no, no,
you need an outside counselor you know that that really
knows the ropes and it's going to do this and
that it's going to help you. And then you have
an essay writer, a guy who's gonna someone who's gonna
(07:34):
help you with your essay, you know, and help craft
it and this this and that, and I'm like, damn,
really can't we just can't you just write the essay.
But I will say that it does take some pressure off.
(07:55):
But the real issue is is, honestly the expense of
some of this, Like, no way, it's not happening. Sorry,
you know, I did it this way. You can do
it this way too, you know what I mean, Like
you can write your own essay. I'll help you. Oliver
Hudson is one of the great American novelists. In case
you listening to this podcast didn't know that I am.
(08:18):
I have not written a book yet. But if I
were to write a book, everyone is already saying that
you will be the next great American novelist. So that
might come later in my life. But anyway, that whole
college experience, we'll get through it. It'll be great. You know.
The kid is deciding onto the whether he wants a
college experience or if he wants like a city experience.
(08:43):
But aside from all that, here's the sad part. One,
well not one. My firstborn is not going to be
in this house anymore. And that's crazy to me. I'm
very family connected. It is my number one priority in
my life. I have molded my entire life and career
(09:04):
around my family. Yes, you have to make sacrifices, as
we all do in our work, you know. And I'm
lucky because I get to be home for extended periods
of time and be very present. But then I'm gone
for extended periods of time. So there are certain jobs
that I wouldn't even consider doing because it would just
take me too far away For too long from my family,
and now this boy is not going to be here
(09:26):
in a year, and that is crazy. Just the idea
of walking past his room and it being empty, you know,
the nostalgia that has been built up for seventeen eighteen years.
It just lingers. You can smell it, literally, there's a scent.
(09:50):
And when they leave, and some of you listening, I'm
sure I have already experienced this. That's heart wrenching. It's gonna
take some time to get used to, I think, because
it's just another piece of energy, of life force that
is no longer you know, in this in this house
(10:12):
that makes it all run. And he's gonna be off
doing his own thing as he should. He's an amazing child.
And it's gonna hurt though. It's gonna it's crazy, you know,
definitely gonna be shedding a thousand tiers. I'm an emotional person,
(10:33):
so every time I walk by that room, I'm probably
just gonna be like, oh God, Aaron's gonna have to
get me straight. It's like, hey, Oliver, okay, look just
FaceTime him. He's right there. Everything's gonna be okay. But
now it's crazy, man, it's crazy. And then of course
it shows your own age, you know what I mean,
(10:54):
You're like, holy shit, this guy was a little butterball
just a second ago, and now he's gone. He's an adult.
He's in the world making a life for himself without us, which,
of course we'll get a thousand phone calls. And you
know that umbilical cord stretches, stretches across the globe. Really,
(11:17):
so that's what we're preparing for this year, counting the days.
But at least I still have my other two babies.
They'll be here to console me and take care of me.
(11:42):
So another thing that I wanted to talk about, and
I haven't tried it yet. I had a brain scan
and it was with this guy, his name is doctor
Amon Incredible, and I went on his podcast, my sister
and I did, and so we got to have our
brains scanned and then we got to go on his
(12:04):
podcast and sort of a fun little thing, and it
was really interesting. The process was really interesting. It was
over three days, and there was an injections and there
was imaging, and it was a whole thing and questionnaire
and an intake form and so after all of this,
(12:25):
you look at your brain and it's really beautiful and incredible.
The images are amazing and through trauma, well because of trauma,
you can see certain parts of your brain that have
been affected. I mean, if you were a drug addict,
or if you were an alcohol abuser or some something
like that, you can see that. And it really is.
(12:45):
It can detect add or ADHD, whatever you want to say.
Very well. Anyway, it turns out like I have it.
I mean I kind of suspected that I did, you
know what I mean, never paid any mind to it.
I just kind of went about my life, but knew
that there were certain things holding me back. So talking
(13:06):
with my psychiatrist, I have a patch, a new patch,
and I don't know what the hell it is. I've
yet to try it yet, but this is going to
be something new. Maybe it's going to turn me into
just an on fire superstar who can't stop working. But
(13:31):
I don't know. It's interesting. You know, we've had some
really cool people on our show, experts who talk about
it as a superpower and not really a deficiency. I
think it's about how you look at it. So I'm
excited to give it a shot. I'm excited to try
that patch. Let's see if it changes anything. I'm sure
(13:54):
a lot of these listeners that I'm talking to have
dealt with their own ad D eighth And now that
I discovered AI, which I know, I'm crazy late to
the game, which I just I've been resisted it. But
you know that's where the add kind of can kick
in pretty good because I'm like, oh my gosh, like
(14:16):
I can learn anything, and then i go down the
rabbit hole of AI. But I'm so late to the game.
I resisted it. It scares me. And it scared me
not meaning I go a robot's can infiltrate my brain
and take over the world, which probably will happen at
some point, but it was more of like, oh god,
(14:36):
I just kind of railing against the technology. It's just
I feel like I like analog, you know, I want
to be in nature on my boat or in the
ocean or in the woods. But I gave it a shot,
and I'm like, uh, oh, like I like this. This
is pretty cool. And I know I sound like an
(14:59):
old man right now, but you know, my mom is
way more AI than I am. She's like, honey, GPT
said this, only oh if you nicknamed him now or her?
You know, sometimes it'll be like, well, Chat said that.
I'm like, oh, now it's chat, you know, And then
my sons and my kids come up to me and like, yeah, no,
(15:19):
I asked, I asked Chat and they said that, you know,
blah blah blah x y Z. And I'm like, imagine
if you just replaced that with Paul or some sort
of a name. You know, I asked Paul about you know,
this bruise on my leg, and you know, Paul said
that it was not a big deal. I mean, we're
now speaking about chat GPT as if it is human,
(15:43):
and uh, it's it's wild. It's nutty. And I know
I sound like an old man. I know this is
old news. But anyway, my point is is, since it's
just me solo and I am an AI wizard, now
let let's ask chat gptwise for podcasts prompts. What is
(16:10):
a great conversational podcast prompt? Give me four of them
to start a great conversation. See what it says. Here
are four strong podcast style conversational prompts designed to spark
great discussion, whether you're hosting show or just kicking off
(16:33):
a deep talk. Okay, here we go. Number one, what's
a belief you held ten years ago that you no
longer believe and what changed your mind? Ooh gosh, No,
pass number two. If someone gave you a million dollars
to create something that could help the world, what would
(16:54):
you build? Ah? That? No. Number three. What's something you've
never told anyone publicly before but you wish more people
knew about you? Well, that is something that the public
(17:15):
doesn't need to know. If you could live one random
day of your life over again, not to change anything,
just to re experiencing it, what day would you pick? Well,
it probably wouldn't be my birth because actually my birth
was traumatic. My Mom's talked about it a bunch. I
(17:36):
think I've even talked about it a bunch. But I
was baking in mom's belly for three weeks after my
due date back in nineteen seventy six. I guess the
idea was, eh, you know, just the baby's not right a,
just let it pop out when it pops out. Well, unfortunately,
I basically ate shit and almost died, meaning I'm aconium
(17:58):
aspirated For those of you who don't know what that is.
We are fed through an umbilical cord as a as
when we're in you row and you got to take
a dump. And that's exactly what I did. But it's
in the amniotic fluid. Of course, that's what we breathe
when we're little, and boom in it goes deep into
(18:19):
my lungs and maconium is a very tarry substance. And
I came out, oh my god, it's a boy. Because
my mom didn't know, and boom. I was rushed off
into nick you and I was there for three weeks
or a month, and I had a slim chance of living.
(18:40):
I don't know the percentage. I think it was like
not slim, but maybe I got thirty percent chance of survival.
You know, there's needles in my head and da da
da da. But I made it. I made it. I did.
In case anyone's wondering, I did it, like I pulled through.
(19:02):
So that's a day that I do not want to relive.
But when you're that little, you're newborn, the question is
does something like that affect you? Your first breath and
in my case, smelled like shit is being whisked away
(19:28):
your first moments of life. Needles put in your head,
you're not near your mother, you have no skin to
skin there is no love there there is you know,
you can't be confused as a kid, but it's just
probably doesn't feel good. So has this fucked me up
from the beginning? I forget who I was talking to,
(19:51):
but someone in the field of psychology or was it
these astrologers maybe I I can't remember, but yes, the
answer was that, yeah, it does. So basically, my birth
could be the root of all my problems, which is
(20:14):
weird because my birth is what gave me life to
even be here. Yet it's the root of all my problems.
This is a conundrum. I'm a conundrum. It's not really
something you can work through. You know, you don't remember it.
You can't go to a psychologist and being like, yeah,
(20:34):
I really really, I want to really dig I want
to go back, oh, like your childhood, you know when
when you're having issues with your father. No, no, no, like
way back like my birth. Okay, well, how do you
tap into that anyway? So I'm not gonna go I'm
not going to relive that day. What part of your
(21:00):
life looks fine on the outside but secretly feels broken.
That's interesting because I'm somewhat of a public figure, you know,
I guess It's always weird when I say that, because
I don't feel like I'm like famous really and I'm
not really, so, you know, I guess people look at
(21:24):
a life, not just mine, but even celebrity life and think,
oh man, that looks great. Everything looks great. But I
don't think that's the case with most people. We're all
a bit broken. We can't not be perfect doesn't exist.
That word should not even be in the dictionary. What
(21:44):
is perfect? Nothing. Life is definitely not perfect. We're all
a little damaged, you know. It's just the extremes of it.
But what part of your life looks fine on the
outside but secretly feels broken. I'd say my security in myself.
(22:05):
I think from the outside perspective, I look extremely confident,
extremely secure, unafraid. We'll say anything, don't care what people think,
And that is not necessarily true. I am socially confident,
I guess, you know, but I do care what people think,
(22:25):
and I just pretend that I don't. I'll say outlandish things,
but I know it's safe, you know. Strangely, I know
the things that I can kind of get away with
and say and it be safe. But I do care
what people think, and I think it's to the detriment
of my creativity, you know, because instead of just throwing
(22:48):
it all out there, I'm so worried about how it's
going to be perceived that you get smaller a little,
but you try to. You don't want to take a
risk or push an envelope for fear of someone saying,
what the hell is he doing? You know what take
was that he did? That That scene was ridiculous, you know, so,
Oh my god, I just want to make sure that
(23:09):
you know I don't rock a boat and that people
like me, you know, so I do care, and I
do have that problem that I want to be liked
too much. I think I think that's an issue, you know,
that I'll go out of my way so people don't
dislike me, you know. Yeah, so that's something. And I
(23:37):
don't know if I ever talked about that on this
crazy podcast. If you had to relive one moment of
shame every day for the rest of your life, what
moment would haunt you the most? Oh god, I can't
even talk about that one. I'm not going to talk
about that one. There are things we say and then
there are things we don't, but shame, shame is powerful.
(24:01):
Shame is dangerous, man, Shame is shame hurts, even if
you've caused the shame. You have to give yourself grace.
You know, even if you are wrong. You know, even
if you are complicit and you are the cause of
(24:22):
your own shame. At some point in order to sort
of heal and get over that, because shame can destroy you,
you have to forgive yourself. You have to put things
into a larger perspective and say, we have one life here, So, yes,
(24:46):
did I fuck up? Did I cause this? Did I
cause that? Am I taking this on? Am I feeling
shame that I shouldn't be feeling? Whatever it is, you
got to take that moment, give yourself some grace, look
at look from thirty thousand feet and forgive yourself because
(25:08):
you don't want to be walking around for your entire
life feeling that shame. Free yourself of that shame. That
would be my advice, because you know it's in all
of us. Everyone knows we all have a little shame.
If the version of you from ten years ago could
see your life now, what would disappoint them the most? Ooh,
(25:30):
it's interesting, I'm forty eight. I'll be forty nine in September,
so thirty eight thirty nine. My production company is called
slow Burn Productions for a reason. I've always been a
slow burn. You know. Kate burned hot bang. You know,
(25:52):
she worked her ass off to get where she is,
but you know, boom, almost famous bang on the scene.
I've always been a slow burn, you know. And it's
like boom, a little pop here, and then kind of
like what's going on? Then boom a little pop here,
and oh that's a good one, and hey, I'm kind
of on my way, and then oh, wait, no, I'm
(26:12):
not on my way. So that being said, to answer
this question, if the version of you from ten years
ago could see your life now, what would disappoint them
the most? I'd probably say that I'm not further along
than I could be. I haven't really reached the potential
(26:35):
that I know I have that I thought I would
probably have reached by now. Not to say you can't
keep striving, which you should, but it's double edged. I've
taked my time. You know, luck plays a factory. You
have to work hard to get lucky, and sometimes I
(26:56):
don't work hard enough. I enjoy my life, I enjoy
my family, I enjoy the fun things, and sometimes that
takes precedent when maybe it shouldn't. So that's what I would,
you know, Why aren't you further along? You know? Why
aren't you you know, I don't scratch that, but it's
(27:18):
less about further along, And why aren't you doing the
things that you know you can do? Why aren't you
focusing on the creativity that you have inside of you,
that you know you can shine in. Being an actor
is great. I love being an actor, but it wasn't
the first thing that I wanted to do. I wanted
to make movies, direct movies. I have a vision in
(27:39):
my head of just life and I've always felt like
I've had sort of an odd look at life, and
I want to tell stories through my lens, you know,
And I have yet to do that, you know, because
I think I'm afraid. I think there's fear there somehow,
And yeah, so there it is, and wrap it all
(28:00):
up to book end it all. Maybe we want to
get this add patch on. Maybe all that will change,
and then in another ten years, when I can answer
that question again, things will be different. Anyway. Thanks for
listening to me, just bullshit and rant for however long.
Twenty minutes or so, and uh, we'll be back next week.
(28:23):
Let me know if you like this shit, because if
we'd like if you if we like it, I can
keep doing it, you know, I keep talking and do
these solo apps. But yeah, leave a comment in below,
hit subscribe, all right, I'm out
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Oliver Hudson
Kate Hudson
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