May 26, 2025 • 62 mins
It's not easy for two sisters to star in some of the most ICONIC roles in pop culture history, but these siblings did just that!
How I Met Your Mother actress Ashley Williams, and Father of the Bride star Kimberly Williams Paisley join Kate and Oliver in a star-studded edition of Sibling Revelry.
Plus, JUST WAIT until you hear how the "Father of the Bride" movie led Kimberly down the aisle in real life!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling. Railvalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
No, no, Oliver, right, I just had I don't you're
not okay.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I had a little eggs this morning and I felt nauseous.
But I went on a run and I almost threw up.
And then I had a pitch meeting, and then I
had just had an egg salad on a piece of toast,
and I think I feel okay, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's a lot of eggs.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, well, well you know what they say.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, let me tell you an egg a day means that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Your cholesterol gets really high.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, Andrew, Yeah, No, I'm okay. Cabo took it out
of me. But no, you know, you were worried about
a lot of things. I will say that I think
that this. Yes, I did in bide, but I think
this was food.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Hold On, Mom is calling. She's worried about you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hold on, No, she's not.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
She's so worried about.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You, mommy, we're podcasting. Oh okay, mom, just for the
sake of all of our listeners, are you worried about
your son?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're firstborn? Oh no, she's not.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Oh no, no, she said, oh yeah, Oh yeah, well I'm,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Worried about everybody problem.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
She should worry about more about my career than my health.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
No, no, she's not worried about you. She just loves you,
is what she's really saying.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I do.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay, okay, bye, see you later, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, bye bye. Where are you going to see?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Just to see an early screening of song Sung Blue.
That's right, yeah, and mom wants to come, so come watch. Yeah,
I was gonna come to good Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Nervous. I always get nervous before I see him.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know. I'm sure it'll be awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm excited and nervous and it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It'll be great. Okay, let's get because waiting.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Margeous, beautiful, kind, sweet movie wife of yours.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
At one point, Kimberly.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Williams and Ashley Oh yeah, I'm very talented, and Ashley
Williams her sissy in our waiting room, in our zoom room.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Should we open up the door. We haven't done that.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
We haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We haven't opened up the door in a long time.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
All right, let's let him in, right go Allie.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
How you guys?
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (03:25):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
We're good. I'm good, Kate's good. We're not together right now.
We should be. But I just got back from Cabo
and I need some recovery.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
But he's feeling a little bit lazy. He went off
the wagon. He'd been sober for a whole month and
then his and then he was getting, you know, geared
up to go to Cabo for a golf weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I didn't fall off the wagon, though, I leapt off
the wagon.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
Actually, I were just talking about that because I was
listening to your brothers Osborne podcast where you were like
bragging that you were off or on the wagon for
ten days or something, just wondering if it's stuck.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And now we know Oliver was.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I got a picture at like eight thirty in the morning,
and I was like, this is this is just bad.
And so I called Joe Buck, who he was with,
and I was like, Joe, don't do this to my brother.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He's like, it's too late.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Late, sister just called me and said, you need to
look after him and Joe he gave it about thirty
eight seconds of trying to look after me. I'm like, Joe, dude,
We're okay.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm okay, I'm okay. I'll survived.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's okay, he survived. We're back. Now. Where are you?
Where are you guys? Are you both in Nashville or
are you separate?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
We're separate too.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm sad.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
I'm in Nashville and Ash is in la.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh wait, where are you from? Originally New York? Oh,
you're in New York, born and raised New York, in
the city.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
No, in New York, but it's not it's you know.
What I always say is I was born in Yonkers,
which is sort of true.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It was called Bronkers, which is like just it was
like Bronxville.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Yonkers is just north of the Bronx basically, And then
we moved up to Westchester County.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Well in Westchester, isn't it? But it's not the nicest
part of Westchester, But I'm proud of it.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
It's like the armpit of Westchester.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's kind of nice to be in the armpit.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And were you the Were you the only siblings or
were there more?
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Yo?
Speaker 8 (05:29):
We have a middle brother, Jay, who's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh it's like the opposite of me. It's the opposite
of me. But he's the boy.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So it's like, so he has his own thing, which
is good because I'm the middle of boys.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Okay, Well, Jay sandwich between these two like actresses. How
annoying is that for Jay? So he became a firefighter
and like became a hero, and then he got tired
of that and now he's a bee keeper. So he's
like got his zen on and he's amazing. He's so cool,
but he doesn't get to do fun things like this enough.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Where does he live?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's really cool.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
He lives in Tennessee. He lives five minutes down the road.
So I actually should have invited him over.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That would have been from the asshole. Yeah, that was
really right.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Now you could we could have been all three of you,
because it's easy if it's a boy and two girls,
because then you can like decipher. If it's three girls,
it's hard because you can't really tell who's talking. Yeah,
and how close are you guys? Like what is the
what is the age difference of everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We're seven years.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
Apart, and then ja'son middle child and ash I've always
been obsessed with We've always been really really close. Like
when my parents brought Ashley home from the hospital, I
think my first though was that she smelled bad, but
that I goed over it. Yeah, I mean that's just
comes with Ashley.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
How was that age friends? Growing up?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And you know when did you actually sort of get
close or were you always close?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Do you want to talk about what I did to you?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
My god? Yes, so my Yeah, you're totally right. Like
everything that you need to know about me is just
I'm the third born.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
So my entire ethos in life is like can I
play my coming?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
It's either can I play? Or are you mad at me? Directions? Yeah,
I was like I was just obsessed with my sister
growing up.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
I just wanted to like be her, like it and
like making it weird, you know. And but Kim came
up with this genius game which was called Fetch Kim.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Do you want to tell them the rules of.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Yeah, I mean it's like the game that we're all
familiar with. We lived in this three story house on
a hill, so I had a tennis ball, and I
was like feeling independent and I adored Ashley, but she
really wanted a lot of attention. So I came up
with this game where if I took the tennis ball
and I threw it out of my third story window,
(08:17):
it would fly out of the house and down the hill.
And I just turned to ash and I go fetch.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And it bought.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
It bought me like a good fifteen minutes sometimes, and
she loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh my god, that is amazing. That is funny. Does
your parents know about this?
Speaker 8 (08:41):
Yeah, they suppose the seventies they were like, yeah, that
sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're like cool, man, Like, that's so like progressive, it
being so independent.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
And then there was the time ash that I was
walking you in the stroller and again we were up
on a hill on this like steep road, and my
dad remembers looking out the window and I Ashley was like,
I'm taking her for a walk, and there she is
in the stroller and I got distracted and let go
of the stroller and my father watched the stroller just
(09:12):
rolling down the road to another there was another road,
and it was terrifying and she could have done no,
oh no, much. She did not stray. Look at her.
She's fine, she's fine, she's still here.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh my god, that would be so oh my god,
that would I just would die. I would die of
a heart attack if that.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Oh my god, the stroller just tipped over, I think right, Ah.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Stroller's vault.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Yeah, cheap thing.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Do you feel like Jay since being sort of smack
dab in the middle of both of you, was he
sort of like off in his own world and you
guys you were like babying the baby our brother.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Yeah, Honestly, like what Kim said earlier is really true,
which is like we were really loud, and I think
Jay was always trying to negotiate his own space, like
you know, where does where does he fit? It's a
it's a middle kid thing, I think relevant. You know,
he's like a little cat. But I remember being like
really jealous of you guys, Kim, because every time, like
(10:17):
you were talking, like what are they talking about?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Why?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
That was hard?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
It's hard with three.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And how many years older is uh Jay? From you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
He's four years older than me?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, okay, three years younger than me. Oh so they
spread them out pretty good.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
They Yeah, an accident I was, there were Yeah, there
were two accidents there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
You might have been an accident. Him.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
I was, I was an accident and you were an accident.
Jay was totally planned.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Oh he was.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That was my understanding.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Why did they tell you that I knew again, it
was the seventies. They told me way too much.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's a funny concept that all the kids were accidents.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
There's no problem telling them. What did your parents do?
They were writers. So mom and dad were competing journalists,
and when they got married, they moved to England and
they both got They both had no money, and they
were trying to like outscoop each other as journalists. And
(11:31):
actually when they got back to New York, they were
on competing newspapers and like one of them worked the
night shift and one worked the day shift, and they
were they were like stealing each other's stories, and they'd
write each other these long like journals about what their
day or what their night was like. It was really
like sweet and romantic. But they had no money, and
both sets of their parents thought it would never work.
(11:52):
Like they were, they were concerned for their welfare, and
they started by going over to England and like pounding
the payment there and then they had the accident, which
is me, and that's when they decided to come back.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Did they have the accident in London?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Yes, I was conceived in London. My dad, again too
much information, gave me the address and one time I
went and saw the place.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I was like me too, I was conceived in London too.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
You were, we were almost.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Foolish, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Were you in an actual bed?
Speaker 8 (12:23):
They didn't tell me that part of thank.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I think I was. I think I was Omaha, Nebraska
in a bathroom.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Oh wow, tracks I was.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I was like on Regent's Park in like, you know,
a canopy bed.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I was in some dingy apartment. My parents were moving
around so much that they didn't have an address for
the checks they were hoping to receive, like daily, so
they had like an American Express box, like a mailbox
or something, and they'd have to go check that. Because
they were moving around apartments, they were kind of homeless
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And Kim, you're like little bassinette was a drawer.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
It was yeah that works, yeah yeah, in the drawer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
They made a little cushion in the drawer.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Yeah, that's why I like small spaces.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
That's smart because they just closed the drawer and pretend
like the accident didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
What kind of journalism was it? Like political or our dead?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Actually, as a Pulitzer, it was it was hard.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, it was like revealing secrets and miss I don't
know Kim was.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
He was covering the IRA he was, yeah, the war
in Ireland, and the Pulitzer was for something else. I
think it was for like child labor laws or something,
and he was part of a team that won that award.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
So so he was more like investigative journalism, yes, yes, cool,
and your mom similar No, it.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Was less investigative, but she was an amazing writer, and
then when we came along, she went more into development.
So she actually helped create these like fundraising programs at
a college and then at Sloane Kettering Cancer Center, and
then her last job was at the Michael J. Fox
Foundation for Parkinson, So she kind of moved out of journalism.
(14:30):
But they both started in journalism.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So I'm assuming that your childhood was like education was important, yes, something.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Yeah, So I say that because it wasn't for our Yeah,
well you didn't need it to be, you guys. That
probably varies between us.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Don't you think, gosh, we had different parents, We had
the same parents, but they were they Well.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's funny because that's a question that we would probably
get into and we talked about all the time, especially
being a seven year gap, but even if it's a
two year gap, two and a half year gap, the
perspective on our parents are always a little bit different
and they raise us a little bit differently. So where
you think one thing, you know, Ashley might think another.
So specifically kind of how did it vary?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
You know?
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Yeah, I varied a lot because I was the firstborn.
So with me, they were very meticulous and to teach
me the meaning of the word no. They decided that
I wasn't going to be allowed to touch this coffee table.
And it wasn't even that it was like a delicate
coffee table. They were just like, oh, yes, we must
teach her the meaning of the word no.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And there were.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Lots of rules and I was very strict and then
Ashley tell by the time they got to you, it
was like.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
I think we're also like really different people, and I
think the parenting kind of adopted. I don't know which
came first, who knows.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Where they got tired, they were urned.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Out by the time they got to me, and I
definitely was way more of like a precocious crazy like
I was very like I was always.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Taking my clothes off and running around and screaming.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So true.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
It was like, oh my god, with me, they were like.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
We need to like they they felt like they weren't
saying no to you, and that's why they invented the
rule about the coffee table, right. It was like they
were trying to keep me alive and trying to keep.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
I remember, that's how you got the most total Yeah,
you got in the most trouble when you were little.
I'd be like, Ashley's naked again. I remember you just
always took your clothes off and I laugh.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, that's true. There's awesome kids.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Like some kids.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, you like.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Look in my eyes, like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, Ronnie. Ronnie's really into mooning right now. I'm for
sure she learned this from her uncle Oliver.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But like she's really moon the days.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm like, Ronnie, you can't do that, sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
She just loves it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Some kids love to be naked, you know, It's just
a thing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I bet.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, it's definitely freeing it's definitely freeing.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I were you were you guys all good at school
or was there.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
You know, better at school than I was? Kim?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, I was better at it. We have different kinds
of brains, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I have. I have ADHD. I think you guys do too, right,
didn't I read that?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
But yeah, so school was always just really confusing for me,
Like I always felt like I couldn't understand what question
people were trying to ask me, and I still don't
and like three steps back, yeah, or but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's like, that's like me when someone asked me a
question in an interview, I start answering it and then
I start talking and then.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like then I'm like I don't, I don't. I'm no
idea what you asked. I have no idea what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
And then you're like, wait, how long was I out?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Like You're like, what am I talking about?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And then then I like land the plane? Kate, land
the plane, and she was like, can't we're circling.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Kim was a lot more like metered, you know, yeah, linear, boring,
a stupid Yeah, what got you into the arts?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Like when did you fall in love with performing well.
When I was like five, I wanted to be an actor.
Did you put on shows with me in the living room?
Did we do that together?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
So that's when I started. And then we we lived
next door to Anna Holbrook, who was a soap opera actress,
and she was the first real actor that we ever met.
And I was like, oh my gosh, you can do
this for a job. And she took my first headshots
and really like she would take me to the soap
she worked on another world, and when I'd show up
(19:08):
with her, it was like the happiest I just loved
being on a set. I thought it was so much
fun and that was all I ever really wanted to
do or write, but acting was acting was the more
fun option.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
When did did you go to college?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
I went to Northwestern. He did, Yeah, And then Ash
started when you were you start. We both started when
we were really young, auditioning and acting.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Like specific deciding moment, Kim, which was when you booked
that National Dairy commercial.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Yeah, my big break.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Kim made more.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
As in like basically an extra in this National Dairy
commercial than my parents had made in like the last
ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
My mom was like you're all doing this, so you
would we would like pile into the buick after school
every day and like go in and go to like
go sees, and you know, the city. It was only
like thirty five minutes away, so it was like we go,
we went, I got agents and we all started working.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Yeah, so you were you were very successful.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Oh you stop.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
No, I wasn't please. I was definitely not.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You did something she's talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I think she might be talking about I Got on
As the World Turns. We're talking about.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Yeah, you were like all during high.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
School a high school, I was on a soap opera.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
We were watching this new one that's a Tyler Perry
soap opera.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You seen this.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They're like they I like that. I brought it back.
They're like, we're gonna go full fucking so hard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and it was fun.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I was like, I missed the soap opera.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeh.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But but so when you said that, I got excited
that that was that must have been exciting.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
There's nothing like the soaps.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You guys like it's the craziest, most hilarious.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Training, you know, like, oh, I'm sure twenty five pages.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
A day and all the actors in New York who
were on soaps were like Juilliard grads and they were
on Broadway and they were like you know, and so
I was around them all day long and they were
giving me advice and talking to me and saying like,
don't ever do drugs, and you know, helping me with
memorizing lines, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But yeah, that's like a masterclass in learning lines. Oh
it was good, It must have been.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, but you guys, when I was in fifth grade,
Kim was a freshman at Northwestern and she booked father
at the Bride.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I booked you when I was a sophomore.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, but oh really that's when.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Oh my god, oh my god. That was huge.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, And also the weird thing. So I was nineteen
and I auditioned in Chicago and then got had to
fly out to la twice for follow up callbacks and
a screen test and not all. And the whole time,
I'm like, there's no way I'm getting this because that's
just too big. And the weekend that I found out
you were visiting Northwestern and my mom and Jay and
(22:03):
Ash were all visiting and we went to see a
show and those that was before cell phones, so I
was like running to pay phones to like check in
with my agent because you knew it was down to
the wire. Was like me and one other person and
I checked in at the intermission of this show in Chicago,
and my agent told me I got it. We all
(22:24):
were just like what I was.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
And I remember, you go shut up, and the mom
and I like look at each other and we're like,
what's happening. I was in fourth grade and we're in
We're in like the lobby of a hotel theater.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, a theater.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I'm a theater lobby and yeah, and she she goes
shut up. And did we go back in for the
rest of the No.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I don't think we saw the rest of the play
because they said, we need you to get on a
plane to la tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Yeah, And it was it was so funny because they
were like, you need to book your own ticket for
the flight because it was like a Sunday or something,
and they're like, make it first class and we'll reimburse
you my like away, I've never fun first class. So
I had to go back to my dorm room and
pack up my dorm and I saw you guys were there.
(23:14):
I thank god you guys were there because it was
so terrified.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
How old we wait?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Was that it for you? For college? No?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
I did go back, but I was nineteen. I was
a sophomore. I was nineteen, so I quit in the
middle of the year and moved out to LA It
was so terrifying in.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The middle of you have like a dance performance that
you were I had to miss it.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
I know, I was miss I was stressed about my class.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Was an intense dance team, right, and she were so
glad that the teacher was going to be mad at you.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
And I still feel bad about that.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Father Father of the Bride was like, I mean, I
think for me at my age, that move that movie.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Was like, yeah, oh my god, it was everything.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Oh I imagine being ten years old. Yeah, your hero
is the girl from Father the Bread. Yeah, the person
that you that has cradled you your like it was
it was like suddenly she was my idol. Everybody Suddenly
she was everybody's idol. I was so weirded out.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I was they were all so weirded out. Yeah, and
everyone was telling me, like, don't change, don't like they
all felt like they were gonna lose me for coming back,
and I remember you guys took me to the airport
and we were all just sobbing, and you like pressed
this you had like this little saint. Do you remember
you had this tiny little saint thing that you gave me,
Which is weird because neither one of us is very religious.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You became religious in that moment.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Like a St. Christopher.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Yeah, it was like a saint. I don't know, like
a traveling I remember you gave it to me. Maybe
it was Jay, but anyway, I just remember like it
was you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said my life and
I don't have it anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
By the way, Sorry, okay, well hold on going back
before the show.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Actually when she left for college, I mean, was that devastating?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I was thinking about this yesterday because I was in
fourth grade when she went to Northwestern, and I think
I was thinking about like a little honestly yesterday. I
was like, why am I like so like I had
like such a you know, great family, great child, And
I'm like, you know what it was?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
It was when Kim went to Northwestern. I got so
fucked up. It was gone.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
She was like my my home base you know, and
I like the day she left for college, I remember
just sobbing, Like I went to the payphone and I'm
you know, I'm in fourth grade and I was just sobbing.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I had to go to the nurse. I couldn't stop crying.
I was in college today.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I was a mess, the biggest sort of the first
like traumas of my childhood.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Kimberly, you probably did you even think about it?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Mess?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
So I feel that way about Wyatt because with my
younger brother, I'm like, I didn't even stink, But now
that we're older, it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Was like devastating for him when we all left.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Yeah, no, I definitely. I mean it was hard for me,
but I had so much to face and so many
mountains to climb on my own that that's much more.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
What I was focused on.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
But it's weird, guys, because now I'm about to send
my oldest stop to college. Just such a strange thing.
If you guys, you haven't done that, have you?
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, Kate's twenty one ride, Oh my gosh, So how
did you survive? Well, I'm like twelve in comparison to like,
you know, like I feel like we grew up together.
So I think I'll feel differently with Ronnie, my little one,
(26:42):
but with Ryder, I was sort of like, yeah, I
thought I was going to be much more emotional.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I really wasn't. I was excited for him.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And then there was just a moment with him when
I was and I've said this before on the show,
but like you know, when I was making a coffee
in the morning and I realized that his energy wasn't
in the space.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Anymore, that's really what it is.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, it just I just bawled my eyes out of
the coffee machine because it was like, told it, you
have this routine, like you you have this little world
that you've created for you know, so many years, and
then they're gone and they're not there every morning and
Rider and the particular is like, yeah, he's the goofy one,
(27:28):
he's the one who's cracking jokes in the morning, and
all of a sudden, the room is like much more serious.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I know, but that the energy thing is real because
my kid's going to college next year and I'm sort
of catastrophizing about what that's going to feel like passing
his room and there's just.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
No one in there.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's not like he and we sit down and have
incredible conversations as a teenager, and he says, Dad, how
was your day?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean that shit doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
He's a fucking teenager, right, but his energy, just the
presence alone.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Is just devastating. It's devastating that that won't be there.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How are you preparing for it? Is this next year?
Speaker 8 (28:17):
It'll be in the fall. So yeah, it's coming up.
He's actually got to decide on where he's going in
like forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
He did he get into the schools that he wanted
to get into For.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
The most part, Yeah, he's definitely like the choices he
has he's very excited about, and he's narrowed down to three.
So I you know, and it's actually a relief to
me that I don't have to decide. He can, you know,
he gets to decide which is a great place to be?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Are they close to home at all? That he probably
will not be.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
One of them is a little bit closer than the.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Other, but not really.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I mean it's not like I can drive the flight away.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
My wife's like, what about Like Sina Barbara Cla, we
lived like three minutes from Wild Wild He's like, no way. Yeah,
he goes, I'm out of state. I'm going out of state,
and I'm like.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
That's yeah, that's what Hawk said, and I respect that
that's what I did. But yeah, I mean, I feel
like it's I've been preparing for the entire year and
maybe last year or too. It's maybe I've been preparing
for this my whole life. Actually have this piece of
scribble from a little piece of paper that note that
Huk wrote me like when he was like nine, that said,
(29:29):
all badly misspelled, come visit me in college, you promise,
And he signed it because that was like when I
told him college was happening one day, you know, and
I kept that and I'm gonna I'm gonna take him
up on I have to visit because I promised when
he was like eight or nine.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's so funny, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
The cycle of like, you know, I life, Like I
sometimes think about even just one hundred years ago, how
different it was.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Kids left earlier, and you know, you know, it's like
now at least we.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Get an extra probably four years before like fifteen sixteen, Like.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Kids will like wander out into the world, which when
you think about that is pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And actually you have a couple kids, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
I have two kids, but you guys, it's like my
kids are seven and ten. Yeah, in the like, oh
my god, I can't believe I have another ten years. Right,
I'm pretty tired, you know, I'm super psyche like right
now they're at school and I'm like what you know, Yeah,
it's just a different and I understand everybody's telling me
(30:40):
like this, like treasure of these years.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
It goes, you know, by so fast.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
I know when it's going to start going by fast
because it's.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
When they're when they're leaving, you're like, holy fuck, what happened?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And then the Apple memories that on the phone that
they don't help matters much, you know, where they're trying
to create like nostalgia and they just create pain, devastation.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
You just got to do what I did and spread
them out over your entire adult life. Yeah, because by
the time, you know, I could still have another one
of my wants.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's like, by the time one of them has.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Happened, I'm a grandparent, you know, I'll still have like
the last one in the house and then I'll have grandkids.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's like you just gotta spread them out. That's perfect.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I bet you guys have the best family like Sunday
dinner or like you know, family reunions.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It must be so fun in your family.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know, we've actually been together a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
It's actually really nice, and usually it's it's yeah, the
fires in La really like brought Christmas, and then the
fires brought us all together.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So we all live here ten minutes from each other anyway,
you know, that's.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Great, but there was something about it that kind of
like made us all go like, we need to spend
as much time with each other as possible.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
And but you're.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Right, like last night, Oliver didn't come because he was
too you know, he's gonna have a week hangover.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But Kate, no, it was I ate something bad.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Sure, but my mom and dad came over with Buddy
Wyatt and May's kid and Ronnie and then Rio came over,
and we have this sort of like it's just fun.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We have these like rotating.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Houses of kids and it's always one kid somewhere with another.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
One of the families, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Are like best friends too.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You know that's great. We have a lot of cousins too.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
We have seven boys between the three siblings, and they're
all like two years apart, so mine is the oldest,
and then it goes down to Leo who's the youngest.
So yeah, they love getting together.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And how long have you been married to Brad?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Wait, like twenty two years? We can't keep track. The
other day we couldn't figure out if it was twenty
three or twenty two.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I think it's twenty two.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
The number goes up.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
And together were you together for longer? I mean twenty
not much longer? We were together for like a year
and a half. Yeah, and then we got married.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And did he approach you at like some bar and
be like, we'll so a baby like that?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
What's up y'all? No, the story is actually about Father
the Bride. He went and saw Father the Bride with
his girlfriend at the time, and and then it was
like their movie and they saw it a bunch of
times while they dated for like a couple of years
or whatever. And then he moved to Nashville and she
broke his heart and he wrote these amazing songs about it,
(33:42):
and and and then had this idea when the Father
the Bride sequel came out that maybe he and this
girl would have a sequel. It was really kind of
cute and romantic and maybe naive, and so he went
to the same theater where they'd had their first day, thinking,
if she thinks about it the way I'm thinking about it,
she'll also show up to the sequel, and so he stayed,
(34:03):
he saw the movie, she didn't show up. He left
the movie, went out into the parking lot, and then
was like, oh shit, was it the seven or was
it the nine that we went to? I'm not sure?
So he literally went back and bought a second ticket.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
He didn't stay for the second showing, but he did
have the ticket and he looked for She didn't come,
and then he wound up going home and writing like
great songs, and the ticket stub for Father of the
Bride Too is in his album Mark for Part Two,
which was the second album.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a great story.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, did he go to follow the opening a fellow
by two just hoping she would randomly fucking show up?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Or did he invite her?
Speaker 8 (34:41):
It was no, he didn't even tell her about it.
But it was December twenty eighth, which was the date
of their first date, so it was like a date
that they had talked about. It was his mom's birthday coincidentally,
so that's how he remembered it. And it was something
that they had always known, was like their first date date.
And he just thought, well, if she's cause I guess
she'd been trying to get back to together with him.
And he thought, well, if she's thinking the same along
(35:02):
the same lines, if she's romantic like I, and then
she'll come.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So she didn't.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Lucky for me or not, I don't know. So he
went and he wrote all these like amazing songs from it,
and like his career launched after that. And then like
seven years later, he woke up with this idea like, oh,
I should call that girl who was in Father the Bride,
and like that's the story he goes with, I'm like,
maybe he was stalking me.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Somewhere, yeah, but he's got a random cold call, like
I got a cold call.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Yeah, And I had just told my agents that I
wanted to do a music video. I was interested in
doing a music video because I'd never done one. I
thought it'd be fun to be like a Robert Plant
girl or something. I wasn't expecting a country music video.
But he literally called like a few days later, and
I was like, yeah, that sounds fun. So that was
kind of his pickup line. So you were in his video. Well,
(35:54):
it was literally a pickup line because by the time,
like we'd already been dating for like two months, and
I was like, whatever happened to that video? You said
you wanted me to do? So I finally did do.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
A video with him, but it took some time.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's so cute. Yeah, good story.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
So he really, deep down was always attracted to you,
even though it sort of projected into the.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Girl that he saw the movie with, it really was
you all along. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
I guess you have to ask him.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
And now and now three kids later, twenty two years.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
We have two kids, Jay have twenty three. Yeah, we
have two. Jay has three, and Ash has two.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh okay, okay? And are you and and boy and girl?
Are two boys?
Speaker 8 (36:41):
I have two boys.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
We all have everyone's there's not one girl.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
No, oh weird, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well, my partner comes from three boys. So it's Fuji Kawa.
There's three brothers, and he had a girl. His brother
had two girls, and his brother right now is having
a girl. There's no voice.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Oh, my god, we need to hook them up.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
They need to meet up.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I know exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Actually, is your husband in the business.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Yeah, my husband's a producer, is yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, so he gets the life he does.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, I mean it's also I think it's you know,
we have like a rule that nobody can work out
of town during the school year, right. I've you know,
I've been leaving a little bit more during the school year,
and I think he's annoyed, understandably so because he seems
to be always the one in charge of the kid.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Now you're kicking ass. You're doing so well, that's why
you have to keep leaving town. Yeah, tell him what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Oh my gosh, thanks for asking.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Well, if I do these movies, these Hallmark Christmas movies
so fun. So I'm I just got back from Spain
and I was just doing oh yeah, and now I'm
gonna go actually to shoot another one in the French Alps.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
They're like sending me a bad.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Oh my god, that's awesome, so fun. So you know,
Paul Green, I sure do.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Paul forever and ever he used a model with my
wife a billion years ago. And then Angie was his
ex wife and Aaron and best friends, and and.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Then Angie became my best friend because we were both
young mommies together.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
We had like kids and we were like early twenty.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We became like a Hallmark king and he was in
every Christmas movie. And you know that he's so kind,
He's the sweetest, kindest man.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
He's a great.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
He We do that.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Kim and I do this big fundraiser for the Alzheimer's
Association every year, and Kim he performed this year and
last year.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I think, yeah, the dance party, which was really cool.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
But yeah, I'm sure he played like Hallelujah and then
he probably played like he loves it.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
And what he did he did the monster mash because
it was Helen. Oh good, like you murdered it.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
That's cute. Goddamn it. You're doing Hallmark movies and cool
ass places. I did one Hallmark movie and it was
in fucking Winnipeg.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So yeah, it's just.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Well, to be clear, I've done Hallmark movies in Canada
for you know, for the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but like the Swiss French Alps or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
It's like, how many holiday movies do they do a year?
Speaker 6 (39:33):
They do one hundred original movies a year.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Wown Hamewark is It's insane, incredible, well run machine.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I just finished what netflixuse. Netflix is in that holiday
space now too. I just did one, just finished one
with the at least the Silverstone.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Is it a Christmas one?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep? And I was in Canada again, Toronto in the winter.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
That's when we shot Christmas Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, I know, we didn't even get into that. I
got to get into.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I played Kim's dead husband, my.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Dead husband, and we had a lovely time together.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
We did.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Are You Being Dead? We have really a good time.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
My face and like Christmas ornament, like whatever our name is,
like never die whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
By the way, how much do you get recognized for that?
That movie is just so iconic in the Christmas game?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
So good love it.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
It's It's really good, it really is.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It really was fun. So it's just a cool, fun movie.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
So when does your latest one come out?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think November. Fun. Yeah, it was fun, it was good,
it was sweet, it was cute, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
But now you're both hosting Oh my god, gosh, yea,
I have all of that right here hot all the information.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
We're hosting dating shows.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
On different on network.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Completely sure, Wait a minute, what I need to break
this down?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Is it so fun?
Speaker 6 (41:06):
It's yes, stupid.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Well, what happened was I was doing this dating show basically,
like so, I work at Hallmark. I'm like one of
their people, and they told me that they were starting
like a reality you know, branch, and I immediately started
pitching them reality show ideas, which they promptly rejected.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
They were like nine in a row.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
And when I say pitching, like I came up with
like decks, like they were really very well thought out,
like me dressing up as a fan and going on
the Christmas cruise and then revealing taking my like mask
off and revealing that it's me, Like that was like
a documentary idea I had. Anyway, they didn't like any
of those ideas, but then they called me because they
got to know me through my pitching, and asked if
(41:48):
I would host a dating show.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
When I was like, of course. So I called Kim
like week.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
One of hosting this dating show, and I'm like, you
need to get yourself.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
A dating show.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
I was like, down right, RESTful, those are off the hook,
and you don't have to memorize lines. You could just
be a weirdo and so fun whatever you want. Yeah, okay,
And literally, Kim, was it like four days later you
got Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But that was just coincidental, Like I didn't even call
my people, but it just so happened that like a
week later they called me and they said, there's this show.
It's called Farmer Wants a Wife. It's in their third
season and they're looking for a new host. And I
was like, I just heard that. That's the best gag
in town. I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Are you enjoying it? Yes?
Speaker 8 (42:36):
It was so fun. I mean it's it is so different.
But it's really great to just show up and be me, Like,
I mean, you guys must feel that doing this podcast
you get to just hang and be yourselves, isn't it really?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
But it's funny you say that because I will make
my billions doing something that's just myself, Like I need
a game show, I need to talk show, I need dating.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Millions, billions. There's going to be to be Well, I'm
gonna parlay.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I'm gonna parlay this whole thing into you know, I mean,
you can't even imagine what I've got planned. You can't
even imagine the branding, Ashley. I want to know what
your dating show is?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What? What is it?
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Yeah, I'm doing a dating show for Hallmark called small
Town Setup, like town townspeople getting together to set up
like a single person in the town.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's okay, got it?
Speaker 5 (43:28):
So cute and it's so silly, And yours is similar
to right because it's like a farmer.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
Yeah, mine is in the title, so farmer wife, I kind.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Of got it.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Yeah, and the wives want a farmer, so it works
like they have to say yes. There's no like rose ceremony,
there's no wedding at the end, it's just are they
still interested? And it's really good television. And I could
relate to it because we grew up in New York
and here I am on a farm. I've got like
horses in the backyard and lots of you know, so nice.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah, I love horses and lots of poop. I like
muddy boots on a porch. I don't have that right now.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
I feel like it's you gotta make sure it's horse poop,
because you can't just say you like horses and lots
of poop.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
We have all the poop here though, I mean we
have all different kinds.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Speaking of poop, yeah, I was my friends were staying
at my house in the in the desert. I looked
out onto at the window out on the second story
and on my roof is this pile of what I
think is bobcat.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, it is, That's what that is.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
It's like and it's like just pooping in one spot.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh wow, it's like it's a cat. It's I mean,
it has its literalates essentially, it's it's litter box.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I mean it's it's But but what do I do?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Just let it poop?
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Let it poop therein my roof?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Who cares? Just have like a little like poop section
on it.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
You better watch out.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
You better watch out for your little doggie though. You
don't want your dog to just be.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Like yeah, no, no, an appetizer.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
I know he's like a teeny I've got. You also
have like a.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Doberman and an Ausie, so I don't let them out
without the big dogs.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Okay, But I love that you guys.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
When I was reading about everything about you both, you
guys are very open and vulnerable about the things that
are going on in your life, which I always love
and appreciate because I think it's important.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
But you know, like Kimberly when you.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Lost your voice, Ashlely, you had a miscarriage, and you
talk openly about those things, like what was that? Like,
what are these things that you're super comfortable with being
open or is it something that you have to like
ask yourself and like go through the process.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Of being like, Okay, I have to come out with it.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
That's such a great question.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
For myself.
Speaker 8 (46:01):
I feel like it's definitely something I've wrestled with, but
ultimately it's such a relief to be honest and tell
the truth. It's so much more preferable to hiding it
and feeling like I don't want anyone to know. That's exhausting.
And we've been through that so many times, like with
our mom who had Alzheimer's and told us not to
talk about it, so for years we didn't, and then
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when we finally could, when she wasn't like aware anymore
that we were taking we were going to talk about it,
we like, haven't shut up about it, you know. And
then with my voice, I felt like when I was
in the middle of it, it was really hard for me,
to be honest, because I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
If it was going to last for the rest of
my life.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
You know, those kind of health scares could be really
scary and challenging, and I was just terrified. But once
I found the answer and had the surgery and like
came through it, then I really wanted to talk about
it because I wanted other people to know that they're
not alone, and you know, this is what I've learned.
And I was so happy to have a voice. But
(47:00):
I just was excited to use it, you know, and Ash,
what about you with the miscarriage.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
I was just going to say, like I remember because
I was, you know, we were We're Kim and I
talk every day. So during her voice journey, I was
it was like an active part of every conversation we had,
you know, and helping her navigate a party or like
at one point she had to go to the White House,
(47:26):
like we were like what do we do? Like she
can't she'd lost her voice, and she was like going
to the White House and sitting next to I can't Jill.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
Was it like Jill Biden or something.
Speaker 7 (47:35):
Like navigating all those crazy things but but also having
to stay super private about it. And I remember, Kimmy,
when you came out of surgery, we I think you
sent me a text message and you were like, I
just wrote this and it was ultimately what you posted
on Instagram, but you like sent me and you were
(47:55):
like any changes, and I was like, no, this is amazing.
But it was like a big moment where you decided
to like come out and it was basically the morning
that you were in the hospital after your surgery, right yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
And it felt like such a relief. It felt so vulnerable,
and I had no idea I'd forgotten. Really like when
people show up authentically, I think, I think the general
public really responds. And that's what happened is I just
poured my heart out into this and then I turned
my phone off when I went and like meditated, which
is my new thing since being through with the Voice journey,
(48:29):
I have been meditating. And I came back like I've
kind of forgot about it. And I came back an
hour later and I saw that it had blown up
and people had really responded to it in like a
way that I hadn't. I hadn't had a reaction like
that in years. And then I felt like oh gosh,
what have I done. There's no putting that Genie back
in the bottle, but I'm still like so glad that
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I did.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
What was your hesitation, you know from the beginning, you
know why, just just just pure privacy or was there
a fear there of some kind?
Speaker 8 (49:00):
Yeah, there was a lot of fear. It was very
embarrassing to me.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (49:03):
I think it's hard to explain, but I guess I
felt sort of invisible for two years. I felt like
a ghost. I felt I felt like it was my fault.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
For some time.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
I just had a lot of stuff. There was actually
like some guilt around the stuff talking about my mom
and Alzheimer's. I think like there was an emotional component
and like all this stuff that I had been feeling about,
like oh I can't talk about something was kind of
like taught by our mom in some way like that,
you know, so that like coming through the end of
her Alzheimer's journey and deciding we were going to talk
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about it.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I felt a lot of guilt about that.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
So that was just part of my understanding all of
like how I use my voice, how I show up?
Speaker 3 (49:43):
What was my internal voice is?
Speaker 6 (49:44):
You know?
Speaker 8 (49:45):
What I really learned in trying to find my external voice,
and so it just felt like it was all a
very vulnerable thing because it was so real that.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
It was scary to share.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
How is that navigating? And this is for both of
you with your with the hubbies, like are they comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
You know, being more outward or do.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
They sometimes feel like you know, because that's my My
biggest thing is that I'm going to say something and
then someone else is going.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
To be up said of me.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
It's like there's all these moving parts.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Whether it's my brother, whether it's my other brother, whether
it's my parents, whether it's my.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Partner or with my kids.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
It's like I could talk about anything, and yet I
sometimes feel like I'm gonna let someone down if I
say something personal.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, I totally relate to that.
Speaker 7 (50:35):
And it's so funny because earlier, Oliver, you were like,
and tell us about your husband, and my husband, Neil
is a producer and he's amazing, and then and I
was like, well, and you know he he's had to
stay home a lot recently. And then I was thinking,
after like moved on, I'm like, is the only time
I'm going to talk about my incredible husband, the fact
that he's the one having to take care of the
(50:56):
kids recently. That's not I was like, here's that is
he going to be like I can't believe you, Like
like that was the one thing you said about.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Me, Like like I've done a lot more than this.
Speaker 7 (51:06):
Because meanwhile, like like the truth is my husband is
Kim can attest like the greatest human that the most
like selfless, generous, kind and also fiercely protective of our kids.
So like we don't post pictures of our kids online
around some like we're just super freaked out about doing
that without their consent, and like how.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Do they I U, I use them to get more
followers and potentially make more money on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
So from the opposite, me too, yeah.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
Like and honestly truly to each his own, but like
my husband was really like, you know, fiercely protective of
them and and and there is like a privacy element.
And at the same time, he is a producer, Like
he knows this industry, you know, just as well as anyone,
and he knows that the more honest I am, you know, oftentimes,
the more people can connect with me.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
So it's a balance you know it's.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
Yeah, I feel like I think that that's the same
for me. Like you just have to make sure that
whatever story I'm telling that that it'll be one that
they're okay with.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
That's hard.
Speaker 8 (52:13):
It's a fine line. I mean, you guys understand that
because you've grown up that public GUYE.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah, we don't have a ton of time. But just
the Alzheimer with your mother, I mean, I don't think
I've ever actually spoken to someone who's dealt with that
who I know actually, well, but is there a is
there a moment where it turns or is it very gradual?
You know, it's a very basic, sort of simplistic question,
(52:39):
but is it is it a very gradual decline or
is there that moment?
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Thank you so much for talking about this. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (52:48):
I remember a doctor told us once, if you've met
one person with Alzheimer's, you've met one person with Alzheimer's,
So it can be different for everybody. Our mom had
frontotemporal lobe disorder, a primary progressive phasia, which like took
five to seven years. They said it would take her
five to seven years before she would need full time care.
But like I look back, and I do remember it
(53:09):
was actually at my wedding that there was a moment
where I was like, oh my gosh, what happened to mom?
She was really irrational and really upset the day of
my wedding because she wasn't in the ceremony, which was
very odd, like that was kind of out of character
for her. And so that day we gave her something
to read in the ceremony because she was like having
(53:31):
a total meltdown and she got up to read it
and couldn't get through the reading, like kept stumbling and
faltering like and that was so unlike her. She was
someone that was used to speaking in front of people.
And we didn't know for another two years, but when
we finally found out, I remembered that moment was like huh,
I think that was the beginning.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Mmm. Wow.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
And then once it was diagnosed, you know, then there
was the awareness becomes your forefront and so your almost
witnessing and watching and waiting.
Speaker 7 (54:02):
Yeah, it's complicated, like it's you know, they say it's
like death by paper cut, and it really is that,
Like it's really like these tiny, teeny, tiny little micks
like I remember in like it was like two thousand
and one, I was like in between auditions in New
York City, and I swung into her office down in
like Lower Manhattan to like pee and get a free snack,
you know. And I walked into her office and she
(54:24):
was hunched over the phone book and I walked in
and I said hi. She goes, oh, thank god you're here.
How do you suppose Chicago? That was like two thousand
and one, so that was years before your wedding him, right,
And I remember being.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
Like, she's dotty, she's hilarious.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
My mother is hilarious, you know, right, And then the
weirdest thing is that then thirty seconds later she's like, hey,
I made a reservation for lunch, let's go, you know,
and like completely normal. Like it's these all these different
tracks in your brain and one of them suddenly is
like off the rails for a second. And then you're
(55:04):
like that was weird. But that's what's crazy about it
is that kind of happens to all of us.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
All day, especially Yeah you don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes sometimes you're like.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Oh my god, I can't remember that name, but they're
like I know this person.
Speaker 6 (55:20):
So all of us have a phasia all day. What's
the name name, that's a phasia.
Speaker 7 (55:25):
But our mother had something called primary progressive aphasia, which
was just it it didn't stop like it was all day. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (55:31):
I think the distinction is if it's interfering with your
daily life, then it's something to get checked out. If
it's I mean, if it's like, oh, I forget someone's's name,
that that's not as big a deal as this is
interfering with my work life or my family life. It's
starting to change, right.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
But there's been a lot, a lot has been done
recently with Alzheimer's, at least from a news standpoint, you know,
reading things, hearing things, you know, it seems like there's breakthroughs.
If not now, but the few sure could look bright now.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have a lot of
information on that.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
Yeah, I'm really hopeful, you know, hopefully funding for research
will continue and we can find some of these answers
because it does take a lot of money. Yeah, you know,
so that that's kind of frustrating it right now because
we need we need a lot of research. But there
are a lot of irons in the fire, and we've
been connected to some fantastic doctors who are doing really
(56:26):
phenomenal work. And there you know, there are some medicines
there that can slow down the progress, and so I
am hopeful.
Speaker 7 (56:41):
And FYI, the Alzheimer's Association, just to give them a
little plug, has the most incredible resources.
Speaker 6 (56:47):
They have a one eight hundred number. You can google it.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
I don't know what it is, but they have somebody
twenty four hours a day who will answer the phone
locally in your area, can connect you with resources locally
in your area, therapists, you know, nurses, support groups, et cetera.
Because the prevalence of abuse is incredibly high and it's
(57:10):
not interesting of the loyalty as Yeah, and even if
it's not abuse, but it's like the caregivers not going
to their own doctor's appointments, or the caregivers not getting
enough sleep or enough food, like they really need support.
Speaker 8 (57:25):
So yeah, I agree, Ash, And the hotline number is
terrific and they'll connect you with free resources.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Well, I imagine just patients in general.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
I mean, we all have children, you know how our
nerves get forget frayed and we go crazy and we
have to check ourselves because holy fuck, let me just
figure out why.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
I'm like this.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
But I can imagine, you know, you have to be
pretty patient and sort of go within yourself and start
a true meditation, because.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
You know it can be. I can't imagine how frustrating
it can get, you know.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, this was so great. You guys are the sweetest.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Many are the best. This is fun, really fun.
Speaker 5 (58:04):
I'm going to come to Nashville at some point, probably
this summer, because I'm going to come meet a bunch
of people and write so amazing.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Don't come, yeah, reach out hi? Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Two part question you know of your sibling obviously, the
first part is if there was one thing that you
can emulate from them that you could have for yourself,
what would that be? And second part is if there
was something that you could alleviate from them, what would
(58:37):
you take away to make their life just better a
little more smooth?
Speaker 8 (58:41):
That is the sweetest question. Both of those things are amazing.
I think for me, what I love so much and
wish I had is Ashley's just full belly laugh. That's
just like rings throughout a room and like changes the
atmosphere of a room. That's the first part and the
(59:03):
second part is actually used to be a doulula, and
she has this ability to like talk someone through a
panic attack or through a hard moment, And I am
so grateful to be the recipient of that. But I
wish I had that ability that ash that you have.
I wish I could give her like twenty four hour
childcare just as needed.
Speaker 6 (59:31):
That would be really help.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
Yeah, you and every other mother in the world.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's like, so it's the hardest job ever.
Speaker 5 (59:41):
I sometimes think to myself, like, you know, I don't
think I'd ever want to.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Be a stay at home mom just because it's so
much work. Like I don't know what I would do.
Speaker 5 (59:51):
If I didn't have work and all I was doing
was the kids. I think I'd go crazy, like I
need help. And then you think, of course, because we're
not supposed to do it alone. We're supposed to all
be doing it together, like all the late all the
girls are supposed to come together and help each other
raise each other's children.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's like what we're meant to do, right, you know, our.
Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Community is supposed to be there for us, and we've
lost sight a little bit of that as you going, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
For Kim, so I'm gonna say, Kim is so good
at honestly looking not I mean definitely at herself, but
at me, uh and telling me, like in a really
honest way what I could be doing better and how
to see a situation from another person's perspective, Like there
(01:00:38):
is a loyalty in that, I swear, But most of
the time what she's saying is, well, it sounds like
you were kind of a jerk. It helps me see
what my shortcomings are. And she does it to herself
and she does it for me, and I wish I
could do it for myself better.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
But what I all I need to do when I
look at a situation is go, what would she you say?
I'm not seeing? Or where am I coming up short here?
And it's it's something that I continue.
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
To strive for that I've learned from her, and I'm
and I need to strengthen because I'm the first person
to be like it was mean, you know, and Kim's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Like, okay, but you did yell first, you know, or
that like a very helpful thing.
Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
And in terms of alleviating you know, it's interesting we
talked a lot about like Kim, who Kim's parents were
when she was growing up as opposed to mine. And
what I wish I could give her a dose of
is the like, screw the rules, touch, touch the table.
You know it happens, you know, get messed bit and
(01:01:49):
you'll and you'll see that like we're all still here,
loving you, and you know you're not in troubles in
charge anymore, you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Know, Touch the goddamn table.
Speaker 8 (01:02:01):
All right, I'll go back, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
We gotta roll. Love you guys, Thank you so much, Thank.
Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
You so much, so much, so nice getting to know
you you too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Come see us in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I will best, I will
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
H
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
Speaker 3 (00:08):
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling. Railvalry.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
That's good.
Speaker 5 (00:37):
No, no, Oliver, right, I just had I don't you're
not okay.
Speaker 4 (00:43):
I had a little eggs this morning and I felt nauseous.
But I went on a run and I almost threw up.
And then I had a pitch meeting, and then I
had just had an egg salad on a piece of toast,
and I think I feel okay, pretty good.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
It's a lot of eggs.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Yeah, well, well you know what they say.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
No, I don't.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Well, let me tell you an egg a day means that.
Speaker 3 (01:10):
Your cholesterol gets really high.
Speaker 4 (01:12):
Yeah, Andrew, Yeah, No, I'm okay. Cabo took it out
of me. But no, you know, you were worried about
a lot of things. I will say that I think
that this. Yes, I did in bide, but I think
this was food.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Hold On, Mom is calling. She's worried about you.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Hold on, No, she's not.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
She's so worried about.
Speaker 5 (01:38):
You, mommy, we're podcasting. Oh okay, mom, just for the
sake of all of our listeners, are you worried about
your son?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
You're firstborn? Oh no, she's not.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
Oh no, no, she said, oh yeah, Oh yeah, well I'm,
you know.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Worried about everybody problem.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
She should worry about more about my career than my health.
Speaker 5 (02:08):
No, no, she's not worried about you. She just loves you,
is what she's really saying.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
I do.
Speaker 5 (02:14):
I love you.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Okay, okay, bye, see you later, goodbye.
Speaker 2 (02:18):
Okay, bye bye. Where are you going to see?
Speaker 6 (02:22):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (02:23):
Just to see an early screening of song Sung Blue.
That's right, yeah, and mom wants to come, so come watch. Yeah,
I was gonna come to good Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Nervous. I always get nervous before I see him.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
I know. I'm sure it'll be awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
I'm excited and nervous and it'll be fun.
Speaker 2 (02:43):
It'll be great. Okay, let's get because waiting.
Speaker 5 (02:48):
Margeous, beautiful, kind, sweet movie wife of yours.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
At one point, Kimberly.
Speaker 5 (02:55):
Williams and Ashley Oh yeah, I'm very talented, and Ashley
Williams her sissy in our waiting room, in our zoom room.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Should we open up the door. We haven't done that.
Speaker 7 (03:08):
We haven't.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
We haven't opened up the door in a long time.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
All right, let's let him in, right go Allie.
Speaker 6 (03:22):
How you guys?
Speaker 7 (03:24):
Hi?
Speaker 8 (03:25):
How are you guys?
Speaker 4 (03:26):
We're good. I'm good, Kate's good. We're not together right now.
We should be. But I just got back from Cabo
and I need some recovery.
Speaker 5 (03:35):
But he's feeling a little bit lazy. He went off
the wagon. He'd been sober for a whole month and
then his and then he was getting, you know, geared
up to go to Cabo for a golf weekend.
Speaker 4 (03:50):
I didn't fall off the wagon, though, I leapt off
the wagon.
Speaker 8 (03:54):
Actually, I were just talking about that because I was
listening to your brothers Osborne podcast where you were like
bragging that you were off or on the wagon for
ten days or something, just wondering if it's stuck.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
And now we know Oliver was.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
I got it.
Speaker 5 (04:09):
I got a picture at like eight thirty in the morning,
and I was like, this is this is just bad.
And so I called Joe Buck, who he was with,
and I was like, Joe, don't do this to my brother.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
No.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
He's like, it's too late.
Speaker 4 (04:23):
Late, sister just called me and said, you need to
look after him and Joe he gave it about thirty
eight seconds of trying to look after me. I'm like, Joe, dude,
We're okay.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
I'm okay, I'm okay. I'll survived.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
He's okay, he survived. We're back. Now. Where are you?
Where are you guys? Are you both in Nashville or
are you separate?
Speaker 8 (04:43):
We're separate too.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
I'm sad.
Speaker 8 (04:46):
I'm in Nashville and Ash is in la.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Oh wait, where are you from? Originally New York? Oh,
you're in New York, born and raised New York, in
the city.
Speaker 7 (04:57):
No, in New York, but it's not it's you know.
What I always say is I was born in Yonkers,
which is sort of true.
Speaker 6 (05:03):
It was called Bronkers, which is like just it was
like Bronxville.
Speaker 7 (05:06):
Yonkers is just north of the Bronx basically, And then
we moved up to Westchester County.
Speaker 8 (05:12):
Well in Westchester, isn't it? But it's not the nicest
part of Westchester, But I'm proud of it.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
It's like the armpit of Westchester.
Speaker 8 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 6 (05:22):
It is.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
It's kind of nice to be in the armpit.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
And were you the Were you the only siblings or
were there more?
Speaker 7 (05:29):
Yo?
Speaker 8 (05:29):
We have a middle brother, Jay, who's awesome.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Oh it's like the opposite of me. It's the opposite
of me. But he's the boy.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
So it's like, so he has his own thing, which
is good because I'm the middle of boys.
Speaker 8 (05:43):
Okay, Well, Jay sandwich between these two like actresses. How
annoying is that for Jay? So he became a firefighter
and like became a hero, and then he got tired
of that and now he's a bee keeper. So he's
like got his zen on and he's amazing. He's so cool,
but he doesn't get to do fun things like this enough.
Speaker 3 (06:04):
Where does he live?
Speaker 2 (06:06):
That's fucking cool.
Speaker 3 (06:07):
It's really cool.
Speaker 8 (06:08):
He lives in Tennessee. He lives five minutes down the road.
So I actually should have invited him over.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
That would have been from the asshole. Yeah, that was
really right.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
Now you could we could have been all three of you,
because it's easy if it's a boy and two girls,
because then you can like decipher. If it's three girls,
it's hard because you can't really tell who's talking. Yeah,
and how close are you guys? Like what is the
what is the age difference of everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
We're seven years.
Speaker 8 (06:37):
Apart, and then ja'son middle child and ash I've always
been obsessed with We've always been really really close. Like
when my parents brought Ashley home from the hospital, I
think my first though was that she smelled bad, but
that I goed over it. Yeah, I mean that's just
comes with Ashley.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
How was that age friends? Growing up?
Speaker 4 (07:02):
And you know when did you actually sort of get
close or were you always close?
Speaker 8 (07:08):
Do you want to talk about what I did to you?
Speaker 7 (07:10):
Oh?
Speaker 6 (07:10):
My god? Yes, so my Yeah, you're totally right. Like
everything that you need to know about me is just
I'm the third born.
Speaker 7 (07:18):
So my entire ethos in life is like can I
play my coming?
Speaker 6 (07:27):
It's either can I play? Or are you mad at me? Directions? Yeah,
I was like I was just obsessed with my sister
growing up.
Speaker 7 (07:40):
I just wanted to like be her, like it and
like making it weird, you know. And but Kim came
up with this genius game which was called Fetch Kim.
Speaker 6 (07:53):
Do you want to tell them the rules of.
Speaker 8 (07:56):
Yeah, I mean it's like the game that we're all
familiar with. We lived in this three story house on
a hill, so I had a tennis ball, and I
was like feeling independent and I adored Ashley, but she
really wanted a lot of attention. So I came up
with this game where if I took the tennis ball
and I threw it out of my third story window,
(08:17):
it would fly out of the house and down the hill.
And I just turned to ash and I go fetch.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
And it bought.
Speaker 8 (08:27):
It bought me like a good fifteen minutes sometimes, and
she loved it.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Oh my god, that is amazing. That is funny. Does
your parents know about this?
Speaker 8 (08:41):
Yeah, they suppose the seventies they were like, yeah, that
sounds fun.
Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're like cool, man, Like, that's so like progressive, it
being so independent.
Speaker 8 (08:51):
And then there was the time ash that I was
walking you in the stroller and again we were up
on a hill on this like steep road, and my
dad remembers looking out the window and I Ashley was like,
I'm taking her for a walk, and there she is
in the stroller and I got distracted and let go
of the stroller and my father watched the stroller just
(09:12):
rolling down the road to another there was another road,
and it was terrifying and she could have done no,
oh no, much. She did not stray. Look at her.
She's fine, she's fine, she's still here.
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Oh my god, that would be so oh my god,
that would I just would die. I would die of
a heart attack if that.
Speaker 8 (09:33):
Oh my god, the stroller just tipped over, I think right, Ah.
Speaker 6 (09:37):
Stroller's vault.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
Yeah, cheap thing.
Speaker 5 (09:41):
Do you feel like Jay since being sort of smack
dab in the middle of both of you, was he
sort of like off in his own world and you
guys you were like babying the baby our brother.
Speaker 7 (09:53):
Yeah, Honestly, like what Kim said earlier is really true,
which is like we were really loud, and I think
Jay was always trying to negotiate his own space, like
you know, where does where does he fit? It's a
it's a middle kid thing, I think relevant. You know,
he's like a little cat. But I remember being like
really jealous of you guys, Kim, because every time, like
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you were talking, like what are they talking about?
Speaker 6 (10:20):
Why?
Speaker 7 (10:20):
You know?
Speaker 6 (10:21):
That was hard?
Speaker 8 (10:23):
It's hard with three.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
And how many years older is uh Jay? From you?
Speaker 6 (10:31):
He's four years older than me?
Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, okay, three years younger than me. Oh so they
spread them out pretty good.
Speaker 8 (10:38):
They Yeah, an accident I was, there were Yeah, there
were two accidents there.
Speaker 6 (10:48):
You might have been an accident. Him.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
I was, I was an accident and you were an accident.
Jay was totally planned.
Speaker 6 (10:54):
Oh he was.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
That was my understanding.
Speaker 8 (10:56):
Why did they tell you that I knew again, it
was the seventies. They told me way too much.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
That's a funny concept that all the kids were accidents.
Speaker 8 (11:10):
There's no problem telling them. What did your parents do?
They were writers. So mom and dad were competing journalists,
and when they got married, they moved to England and
they both got They both had no money, and they
were trying to like outscoop each other as journalists. And
(11:31):
actually when they got back to New York, they were
on competing newspapers and like one of them worked the
night shift and one worked the day shift, and they
were they were like stealing each other's stories, and they'd
write each other these long like journals about what their
day or what their night was like. It was really
like sweet and romantic. But they had no money, and
both sets of their parents thought it would never work.
(11:52):
Like they were, they were concerned for their welfare, and
they started by going over to England and like pounding
the payment there and then they had the accident, which
is me, and that's when they decided to come back.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Did they have the accident in London?
Speaker 8 (12:07):
Yes, I was conceived in London. My dad, again too
much information, gave me the address and one time I
went and saw the place.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
I was like me too, I was conceived in London too.
Speaker 8 (12:17):
You were, we were almost.
Speaker 3 (12:18):
Foolish, that's right.
Speaker 2 (12:20):
Were you in an actual bed?
Speaker 8 (12:23):
They didn't tell me that part of thank.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
I think I was. I think I was Omaha, Nebraska
in a bathroom.
Speaker 8 (12:29):
Oh wow, tracks I was.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I was like on Regent's Park in like, you know,
a canopy bed.
Speaker 8 (12:42):
I was in some dingy apartment. My parents were moving
around so much that they didn't have an address for
the checks they were hoping to receive, like daily, so
they had like an American Express box, like a mailbox
or something, and they'd have to go check that. Because
they were moving around apartments, they were kind of homeless
a little bit.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
And Kim, you're like little bassinette was a drawer.
Speaker 8 (13:04):
It was yeah that works, yeah yeah, in the drawer.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
They made a little cushion in the drawer.
Speaker 8 (13:12):
Yeah, that's why I like small spaces.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
That's smart because they just closed the drawer and pretend
like the accident didn't happen.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
What kind of journalism was it? Like political or our dead?
Speaker 6 (13:34):
Actually, as a Pulitzer, it was it was hard.
Speaker 7 (13:38):
Yeah, it was like revealing secrets and miss I don't
know Kim was.
Speaker 8 (13:45):
He was covering the IRA he was, yeah, the war
in Ireland, and the Pulitzer was for something else. I
think it was for like child labor laws or something,
and he was part of a team that won that award.
Speaker 5 (14:00):
So so he was more like investigative journalism, yes, yes, cool,
and your mom similar No, it.
Speaker 8 (14:09):
Was less investigative, but she was an amazing writer, and
then when we came along, she went more into development.
So she actually helped create these like fundraising programs at
a college and then at Sloane Kettering Cancer Center, and
then her last job was at the Michael J. Fox
Foundation for Parkinson, So she kind of moved out of journalism.
(14:30):
But they both started in journalism.
Speaker 5 (14:33):
So I'm assuming that your childhood was like education was important, yes, something.
Speaker 9 (14:40):
Yeah, So I say that because it wasn't for our Yeah,
well you didn't need it to be, you guys. That
probably varies between us.
Speaker 7 (14:51):
Don't you think, gosh, we had different parents, We had
the same parents, but they were they Well.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
It's funny because that's a question that we would probably
get into and we talked about all the time, especially
being a seven year gap, but even if it's a
two year gap, two and a half year gap, the
perspective on our parents are always a little bit different
and they raise us a little bit differently. So where
you think one thing, you know, Ashley might think another.
So specifically kind of how did it vary?
Speaker 7 (15:18):
You know?
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Yeah, I varied a lot because I was the firstborn.
So with me, they were very meticulous and to teach
me the meaning of the word no. They decided that
I wasn't going to be allowed to touch this coffee table.
And it wasn't even that it was like a delicate
coffee table. They were just like, oh, yes, we must
teach her the meaning of the word no.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
And there were.
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Lots of rules and I was very strict and then
Ashley tell by the time they got to you, it
was like.
Speaker 7 (15:43):
I think we're also like really different people, and I
think the parenting kind of adopted. I don't know which
came first, who knows.
Speaker 8 (15:50):
Where they got tired, they were urned.
Speaker 7 (15:53):
Out by the time they got to me, and I
definitely was way more of like a precocious crazy like
I was very like I was always.
Speaker 6 (16:02):
Taking my clothes off and running around and screaming.
Speaker 7 (16:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
So true.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
It was like, oh my god, with me, they were like.
Speaker 7 (16:11):
We need to like they they felt like they weren't
saying no to you, and that's why they invented the
rule about the coffee table, right. It was like they
were trying to keep me alive and trying to keep.
Speaker 8 (16:26):
I remember, that's how you got the most total Yeah,
you got in the most trouble when you were little.
I'd be like, Ashley's naked again. I remember you just
always took your clothes off and I laugh.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Yeah, that's true. There's awesome kids.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Like some kids.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, you like.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Look in my eyes, like.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Yeah, Ronnie. Ronnie's really into mooning right now. I'm for
sure she learned this from her uncle Oliver.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
But like she's really moon the days.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I'm like, Ronnie, you can't do that, sweetheart.
Speaker 2 (17:02):
She just loves it.
Speaker 3 (17:06):
Some kids love to be naked, you know, It's just
a thing.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
I bet.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
Yeah, it's definitely freeing it's definitely freeing.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
I were you were you guys all good at school
or was there.
Speaker 6 (17:23):
You know, better at school than I was? Kim?
Speaker 8 (17:25):
Yeah, I was better at it. We have different kinds
of brains, Yeah.
Speaker 6 (17:30):
I have. I have ADHD. I think you guys do too, right,
didn't I read that?
Speaker 3 (17:34):
Yeah?
Speaker 7 (17:37):
But yeah, so school was always just really confusing for me,
Like I always felt like I couldn't understand what question
people were trying to ask me, and I still don't
and like three steps back, yeah, or but I don't know.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
That's like, that's like me when someone asked me a
question in an interview, I start answering it and then
I start talking and then.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Like then I'm like I don't, I don't. I'm no
idea what you asked. I have no idea what I'm
talking about.
Speaker 6 (18:05):
And then you're like, wait, how long was I out?
Speaker 3 (18:07):
Like You're like, what am I talking about?
Speaker 7 (18:10):
Right?
Speaker 5 (18:11):
Right?
Speaker 2 (18:11):
And then then I like land the plane? Kate, land
the plane, and she was like, can't we're circling.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
Kim was a lot more like metered, you know, yeah, linear, boring,
a stupid Yeah, what got you into the arts?
Speaker 8 (18:35):
Like when did you fall in love with performing well.
When I was like five, I wanted to be an actor.
Did you put on shows with me in the living room?
Did we do that together?
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (18:47):
So that's when I started. And then we we lived
next door to Anna Holbrook, who was a soap opera actress,
and she was the first real actor that we ever met.
And I was like, oh my gosh, you can do
this for a job. And she took my first headshots
and really like she would take me to the soap
she worked on another world, and when I'd show up
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with her, it was like the happiest I just loved
being on a set. I thought it was so much
fun and that was all I ever really wanted to
do or write, but acting was acting was the more
fun option.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
When did did you go to college?
Speaker 3 (19:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (19:23):
I went to Northwestern. He did, Yeah, And then Ash
started when you were you start. We both started when
we were really young, auditioning and acting.
Speaker 7 (19:31):
Like specific deciding moment, Kim, which was when you booked
that National Dairy commercial.
Speaker 8 (19:37):
Yeah, my big break.
Speaker 6 (19:39):
Kim made more.
Speaker 7 (19:40):
As in like basically an extra in this National Dairy
commercial than my parents had made in like the last
ten years.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (19:48):
My mom was like you're all doing this, so you
would we would like pile into the buick after school
every day and like go in and go to like
go sees, and you know, the city. It was only
like thirty five minutes away, so it was like we go,
we went, I got agents and we all started working.
Speaker 8 (20:08):
Yeah, so you were you were very successful.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Oh you stop.
Speaker 6 (20:17):
No, I wasn't please. I was definitely not.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
You did something she's talking about.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
I think she might be talking about I Got on
As the World Turns. We're talking about.
Speaker 8 (20:25):
Yeah, you were like all during high.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
School a high school, I was on a soap opera.
Speaker 3 (20:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:32):
We were watching this new one that's a Tyler Perry
soap opera.
Speaker 3 (20:36):
You seen this.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
They're like they I like that. I brought it back.
They're like, we're gonna go full fucking so hard. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, and it was fun.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
I was like, I missed the soap opera.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
Yeh.
Speaker 5 (20:47):
But but so when you said that, I got excited
that that was that must have been exciting.
Speaker 6 (20:51):
There's nothing like the soaps.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
You guys like it's the craziest, most hilarious.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Training, you know, like, oh, I'm sure twenty five pages.
Speaker 7 (21:01):
A day and all the actors in New York who
were on soaps were like Juilliard grads and they were
on Broadway and they were like you know, and so
I was around them all day long and they were
giving me advice and talking to me and saying like,
don't ever do drugs, and you know, helping me with
memorizing lines, and it was amazing.
Speaker 6 (21:20):
It was so fun.
Speaker 5 (21:22):
But yeah, that's like a masterclass in learning lines. Oh
it was good, It must have been.
Speaker 7 (21:26):
Yeah, but you guys, when I was in fifth grade,
Kim was a freshman at Northwestern and she booked father
at the Bride.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
I booked you when I was a sophomore.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, but oh really that's when.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Oh my god, oh my god. That was huge.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, And also the weird thing. So I was nineteen
and I auditioned in Chicago and then got had to
fly out to la twice for follow up callbacks and
a screen test and not all. And the whole time,
I'm like, there's no way I'm getting this because that's
just too big. And the weekend that I found out
you were visiting Northwestern and my mom and Jay and
(22:03):
Ash were all visiting and we went to see a
show and those that was before cell phones, so I
was like running to pay phones to like check in
with my agent because you knew it was down to
the wire. Was like me and one other person and
I checked in at the intermission of this show in Chicago,
and my agent told me I got it. We all
(22:24):
were just like what I was.
Speaker 7 (22:27):
And I remember, you go shut up, and the mom
and I like look at each other and we're like,
what's happening. I was in fourth grade and we're in
We're in like the lobby of a hotel theater.
Speaker 3 (22:37):
Yeah, a theater.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I'm a theater lobby and yeah, and she she goes
shut up. And did we go back in for the
rest of the No.
Speaker 8 (22:47):
I don't think we saw the rest of the play
because they said, we need you to get on a
plane to la tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Oh wow.
Speaker 8 (22:54):
Yeah, And it was it was so funny because they
were like, you need to book your own ticket for
the flight because it was like a Sunday or something,
and they're like, make it first class and we'll reimburse
you my like away, I've never fun first class. So
I had to go back to my dorm room and
pack up my dorm and I saw you guys were there.
(23:14):
I thank god you guys were there because it was
so terrified.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
How old we wait?
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Was that it for you? For college? No?
Speaker 8 (23:22):
I did go back, but I was nineteen. I was
a sophomore. I was nineteen, so I quit in the
middle of the year and moved out to LA It
was so terrifying in.
Speaker 7 (23:31):
The middle of you have like a dance performance that
you were I had to miss it.
Speaker 8 (23:36):
I know, I was miss I was stressed about my class.
Speaker 7 (23:38):
Was an intense dance team, right, and she were so
glad that the teacher was going to be mad at you.
Speaker 8 (23:44):
And I still feel bad about that.
Speaker 5 (23:47):
Father Father of the Bride was like, I mean, I
think for me at my age, that move that movie.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
Was like, yeah, oh my god, it was everything.
Speaker 7 (24:00):
Oh I imagine being ten years old. Yeah, your hero
is the girl from Father the Bread. Yeah, the person
that you that has cradled you your like it was
it was like suddenly she was my idol. Everybody Suddenly
she was everybody's idol. I was so weirded out.
Speaker 8 (24:18):
I was they were all so weirded out. Yeah, and
everyone was telling me, like, don't change, don't like they
all felt like they were gonna lose me for coming back,
and I remember you guys took me to the airport
and we were all just sobbing, and you like pressed
this you had like this little saint. Do you remember
you had this tiny little saint thing that you gave me,
Which is weird because neither one of us is very religious.
Speaker 3 (24:41):
You became religious in that moment.
Speaker 2 (24:43):
Like a St. Christopher.
Speaker 8 (24:44):
Yeah, it was like a saint. I don't know, like
a traveling I remember you gave it to me. Maybe
it was Jay, but anyway, I just remember like it
was you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you said my life and
I don't have it anymore.
Speaker 4 (24:56):
By the way, Sorry, okay, well hold on going back
before the show.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Actually when she left for college, I mean, was that devastating?
Speaker 6 (25:04):
Oh my god.
Speaker 7 (25:06):
I was thinking about this yesterday because I was in
fourth grade when she went to Northwestern, and I think
I was thinking about like a little honestly yesterday. I
was like, why am I like so like I had
like such a you know, great family, great child, And
I'm like, you know what it was?
Speaker 6 (25:19):
It was when Kim went to Northwestern. I got so
fucked up. It was gone.
Speaker 7 (25:24):
She was like my my home base you know, and
I like the day she left for college, I remember
just sobbing, Like I went to the payphone and I'm
you know, I'm in fourth grade and I was just sobbing.
Speaker 6 (25:36):
I had to go to the nurse. I couldn't stop crying.
I was in college today.
Speaker 7 (25:41):
I was a mess, the biggest sort of the first
like traumas of my childhood.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Kimberly, you probably did you even think about it?
Speaker 8 (25:51):
Mess?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (25:52):
So I feel that way about Wyatt because with my
younger brother, I'm like, I didn't even stink, But now
that we're older, it.
Speaker 3 (26:02):
Was like devastating for him when we all left.
Speaker 8 (26:05):
Yeah, no, I definitely. I mean it was hard for me,
but I had so much to face and so many
mountains to climb on my own that that's much more.
Speaker 3 (26:11):
What I was focused on.
Speaker 8 (26:12):
But it's weird, guys, because now I'm about to send
my oldest stop to college. Just such a strange thing.
If you guys, you haven't done that, have you?
Speaker 7 (26:21):
Well?
Speaker 5 (26:21):
Yeah, Kate's twenty one ride, Oh my gosh, So how
did you survive? Well, I'm like twelve in comparison to like,
you know, like I feel like we grew up together.
So I think I'll feel differently with Ronnie, my little one,
(26:42):
but with Ryder, I was sort of like, yeah, I
thought I was going to be much more emotional.
Speaker 3 (26:49):
I really wasn't. I was excited for him.
Speaker 5 (26:51):
And then there was just a moment with him when
I was and I've said this before on the show,
but like you know, when I was making a coffee
in the morning and I realized that his energy wasn't
in the space.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Anymore, that's really what it is.
Speaker 5 (27:06):
Yeah, it just I just bawled my eyes out of
the coffee machine because it was like, told it, you
have this routine, like you you have this little world
that you've created for you know, so many years, and
then they're gone and they're not there every morning and
Rider and the particular is like, yeah, he's the goofy one,
(27:28):
he's the one who's cracking jokes in the morning, and
all of a sudden, the room is like much more serious.
Speaker 4 (27:34):
I know, but that the energy thing is real because
my kid's going to college next year and I'm sort
of catastrophizing about what that's going to feel like passing
his room and there's just.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
No one in there.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
It's not like he and we sit down and have
incredible conversations as a teenager, and he says, Dad, how
was your day?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I mean that shit doesn't happen.
Speaker 4 (27:54):
He's a fucking teenager, right, but his energy, just the
presence alone.
Speaker 2 (28:00):
Is just devastating. It's devastating that that won't be there.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
How are you preparing for it? Is this next year?
Speaker 8 (28:17):
It'll be in the fall. So yeah, it's coming up.
He's actually got to decide on where he's going in
like forty eight hours.
Speaker 2 (28:24):
Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5 (28:26):
He did he get into the schools that he wanted
to get into For.
Speaker 8 (28:29):
The most part, Yeah, he's definitely like the choices he
has he's very excited about, and he's narrowed down to three.
So I you know, and it's actually a relief to
me that I don't have to decide. He can, you know,
he gets to decide which is a great place to be?
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Are they close to home at all? That he probably
will not be.
Speaker 6 (28:51):
One of them is a little bit closer than the.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
Other, but not really.
Speaker 8 (28:54):
I mean it's not like I can drive the flight away.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
My wife's like, what about Like Sina Barbara Cla, we
lived like three minutes from Wild Wild He's like, no way. Yeah,
he goes, I'm out of state. I'm going out of state,
and I'm like.
Speaker 8 (29:07):
That's yeah, that's what Hawk said, and I respect that
that's what I did. But yeah, I mean, I feel
like it's I've been preparing for the entire year and
maybe last year or too. It's maybe I've been preparing
for this my whole life. Actually have this piece of
scribble from a little piece of paper that note that
Huk wrote me like when he was like nine, that said,
(29:29):
all badly misspelled, come visit me in college, you promise,
And he signed it because that was like when I
told him college was happening one day, you know, and
I kept that and I'm gonna I'm gonna take him
up on I have to visit because I promised when
he was like eight or nine.
Speaker 5 (29:46):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
It's so funny, isn't it.
Speaker 5 (29:48):
The cycle of like, you know, I life, Like I
sometimes think about even just one hundred years ago, how
different it was.
Speaker 3 (29:58):
Kids left earlier, and you know, you know, it's like
now at least we.
Speaker 5 (30:02):
Get an extra probably four years before like fifteen sixteen, Like.
Speaker 3 (30:08):
Kids will like wander out into the world, which when
you think about that is pretty wild.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
And actually you have a couple kids, right, Yeah.
Speaker 7 (30:17):
I have two kids, but you guys, it's like my
kids are seven and ten. Yeah, in the like, oh
my god, I can't believe I have another ten years. Right,
I'm pretty tired, you know, I'm super psyche like right
now they're at school and I'm like what you know, Yeah,
it's just a different and I understand everybody's telling me
(30:40):
like this, like treasure of these years.
Speaker 6 (30:42):
It goes, you know, by so fast.
Speaker 7 (30:44):
I know when it's going to start going by fast
because it's.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
When they're when they're leaving, you're like, holy fuck, what happened?
Speaker 4 (30:55):
And then the Apple memories that on the phone that
they don't help matters much, you know, where they're trying
to create like nostalgia and they just create pain, devastation.
Speaker 5 (31:04):
You just got to do what I did and spread
them out over your entire adult life. Yeah, because by
the time, you know, I could still have another one
of my wants.
Speaker 3 (31:16):
It's like, by the time one of them has.
Speaker 5 (31:18):
Happened, I'm a grandparent, you know, I'll still have like
the last one in the house and then I'll have grandkids.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
It's like you just gotta spread them out. That's perfect.
Speaker 8 (31:28):
I bet you guys have the best family like Sunday
dinner or like you know, family reunions.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
It must be so fun in your family.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know, we've actually been together a lot lately.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, we have.
Speaker 5 (31:41):
It's actually really nice, and usually it's it's yeah, the
fires in La really like brought Christmas, and then the
fires brought us all together.
Speaker 2 (31:54):
So we all live here ten minutes from each other anyway,
you know, that's.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
Great, but there was something about it that kind of
like made us all go like, we need to spend
as much time with each other as possible.
Speaker 3 (32:05):
And but you're.
Speaker 5 (32:07):
Right, like last night, Oliver didn't come because he was
too you know, he's gonna have a week hangover.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
But Kate, no, it was I ate something bad.
Speaker 5 (32:17):
Sure, but my mom and dad came over with Buddy
Wyatt and May's kid and Ronnie and then Rio came over,
and we have this sort of like it's just fun.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
We have these like rotating.
Speaker 5 (32:30):
Houses of kids and it's always one kid somewhere with another.
Speaker 3 (32:34):
One of the families, you know.
Speaker 2 (32:37):
Are like best friends too.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
You know that's great. We have a lot of cousins too.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
We have seven boys between the three siblings, and they're
all like two years apart, so mine is the oldest,
and then it goes down to Leo who's the youngest.
So yeah, they love getting together.
Speaker 2 (32:55):
And how long have you been married to Brad?
Speaker 8 (32:57):
Wait, like twenty two years? We can't keep track. The
other day we couldn't figure out if it was twenty
three or twenty two.
Speaker 3 (33:04):
I think it's twenty two.
Speaker 6 (33:05):
The number goes up.
Speaker 8 (33:06):
And together were you together for longer? I mean twenty
not much longer? We were together for like a year
and a half. Yeah, and then we got married.
Speaker 4 (33:14):
And did he approach you at like some bar and
be like, we'll so a baby like that?
Speaker 8 (33:20):
What's up y'all? No, the story is actually about Father
the Bride. He went and saw Father the Bride with
his girlfriend at the time, and and then it was
like their movie and they saw it a bunch of
times while they dated for like a couple of years
or whatever. And then he moved to Nashville and she
broke his heart and he wrote these amazing songs about it,
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and and and then had this idea when the Father
the Bride sequel came out that maybe he and this
girl would have a sequel. It was really kind of
cute and romantic and maybe naive, and so he went
to the same theater where they'd had their first day, thinking,
if she thinks about it the way I'm thinking about it,
she'll also show up to the sequel, and so he stayed,
(34:03):
he saw the movie, she didn't show up. He left
the movie, went out into the parking lot, and then
was like, oh shit, was it the seven or was
it the nine that we went to? I'm not sure?
So he literally went back and bought a second ticket.
Speaker 3 (34:14):
Oh my god.
Speaker 8 (34:15):
He didn't stay for the second showing, but he did
have the ticket and he looked for She didn't come,
and then he wound up going home and writing like
great songs, and the ticket stub for Father of the
Bride Too is in his album Mark for Part Two,
which was the second album.
Speaker 2 (34:31):
That's a great story.
Speaker 4 (34:33):
Yeah, did he go to follow the opening a fellow
by two just hoping she would randomly fucking show up?
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Or did he invite her?
Speaker 8 (34:41):
It was no, he didn't even tell her about it.
But it was December twenty eighth, which was the date
of their first date, so it was like a date
that they had talked about. It was his mom's birthday coincidentally,
so that's how he remembered it. And it was something
that they had always known, was like their first date date.
And he just thought, well, if she's cause I guess
she'd been trying to get back to together with him.
And he thought, well, if she's thinking the same along
(35:02):
the same lines, if she's romantic like I, and then
she'll come.
Speaker 3 (35:05):
So she didn't.
Speaker 8 (35:06):
Lucky for me or not, I don't know. So he
went and he wrote all these like amazing songs from it,
and like his career launched after that. And then like
seven years later, he woke up with this idea like, oh,
I should call that girl who was in Father the Bride,
and like that's the story he goes with, I'm like,
maybe he was stalking me.
Speaker 4 (35:25):
Somewhere, yeah, but he's got a random cold call, like
I got a cold call.
Speaker 8 (35:32):
Yeah, And I had just told my agents that I
wanted to do a music video. I was interested in
doing a music video because I'd never done one. I
thought it'd be fun to be like a Robert Plant
girl or something. I wasn't expecting a country music video.
But he literally called like a few days later, and
I was like, yeah, that sounds fun. So that was
kind of his pickup line. So you were in his video. Well,
(35:54):
it was literally a pickup line because by the time,
like we'd already been dating for like two months, and
I was like, whatever happened to that video? You said
you wanted me to do? So I finally did do.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
A video with him, but it took some time.
Speaker 2 (36:08):
That's so cute. Yeah, good story.
Speaker 5 (36:12):
So he really, deep down was always attracted to you,
even though it sort of projected into the.
Speaker 3 (36:19):
Girl that he saw the movie with, it really was
you all along. I don't know.
Speaker 8 (36:22):
I guess you have to ask him.
Speaker 5 (36:25):
And now and now three kids later, twenty two years.
Speaker 8 (36:30):
We have two kids, Jay have twenty three. Yeah, we
have two. Jay has three, and Ash has two.
Speaker 3 (36:36):
Oh okay, okay? And are you and and boy and girl?
Are two boys?
Speaker 8 (36:41):
I have two boys.
Speaker 3 (36:41):
We all have everyone's there's not one girl.
Speaker 8 (36:45):
No, oh weird, that's wild.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
I know.
Speaker 5 (36:49):
Well, my partner comes from three boys. So it's Fuji Kawa.
There's three brothers, and he had a girl. His brother
had two girls, and his brother right now is having
a girl. There's no voice.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Oh, my god, we need to hook them up.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
They need to meet up.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
I know exactly.
Speaker 2 (37:07):
Actually, is your husband in the business.
Speaker 6 (37:10):
Yeah, my husband's a producer, is yeah.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, so he gets the life he does.
Speaker 7 (37:17):
Yeah, I mean it's also I think it's you know,
we have like a rule that nobody can work out
of town during the school year, right. I've you know,
I've been leaving a little bit more during the school year,
and I think he's annoyed, understandably so because he seems
to be always the one in charge of the kid.
Speaker 8 (37:34):
Now you're kicking ass. You're doing so well, that's why
you have to keep leaving town. Yeah, tell him what
you're doing.
Speaker 3 (37:42):
What are you doing right now?
Speaker 6 (37:44):
Oh my gosh, thanks for asking.
Speaker 7 (37:46):
Well, if I do these movies, these Hallmark Christmas movies
so fun. So I'm I just got back from Spain
and I was just doing oh yeah, and now I'm
gonna go actually to shoot another one in the French Alps.
Speaker 6 (38:06):
They're like sending me a bad.
Speaker 5 (38:07):
Oh my god, that's awesome, so fun. So you know,
Paul Green, I sure do.
Speaker 3 (38:14):
How do you?
Speaker 2 (38:15):
Yeah, we don't.
Speaker 4 (38:16):
Paul forever and ever he used a model with my
wife a billion years ago. And then Angie was his
ex wife and Aaron and best friends, and and.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
Then Angie became my best friend because we were both
young mommies together.
Speaker 3 (38:28):
We had like kids and we were like early twenty.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
We became like a Hallmark king and he was in
every Christmas movie. And you know that he's so kind,
He's the sweetest, kindest man.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
He's a great.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
He We do that.
Speaker 7 (38:43):
Kim and I do this big fundraiser for the Alzheimer's
Association every year, and Kim he performed this year and
last year.
Speaker 6 (38:50):
I think, yeah, the dance party, which was really cool.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
But yeah, I'm sure he played like Hallelujah and then
he probably played like he loves it.
Speaker 6 (39:00):
And what he did he did the monster mash because
it was Helen. Oh good, like you murdered it.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
That's cute. Goddamn it. You're doing Hallmark movies and cool
ass places. I did one Hallmark movie and it was
in fucking Winnipeg.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
So yeah, it's just.
Speaker 7 (39:21):
Well, to be clear, I've done Hallmark movies in Canada
for you know, for the last ten years.
Speaker 2 (39:26):
Yeah. Yeah, but like the Swiss French Alps or whatever.
Speaker 3 (39:30):
It's like, how many holiday movies do they do a year?
Speaker 6 (39:33):
They do one hundred original movies a year.
Speaker 7 (39:38):
Wown Hamewark is It's insane, incredible, well run machine.
Speaker 4 (39:44):
I just finished what netflixuse. Netflix is in that holiday
space now too. I just did one, just finished one
with the at least the Silverstone.
Speaker 8 (39:51):
Is it a Christmas one?
Speaker 2 (39:52):
Yep? And I was in Canada again, Toronto in the winter.
Speaker 8 (39:56):
That's when we shot Christmas Chronicles.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
No, I know, we didn't even get into that. I
got to get into.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
I played Kim's dead husband, my.
Speaker 8 (40:05):
Dead husband, and we had a lovely time together.
Speaker 2 (40:07):
We did.
Speaker 8 (40:10):
Are You Being Dead? We have really a good time.
Speaker 4 (40:12):
My face and like Christmas ornament, like whatever our name is,
like never die whatever.
Speaker 2 (40:17):
I don't even remember.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
By the way, how much do you get recognized for that?
That movie is just so iconic in the Christmas game?
Speaker 3 (40:29):
So good love it.
Speaker 8 (40:31):
It's It's really good, it really is.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
It really was fun. So it's just a cool, fun movie.
Speaker 8 (40:38):
So when does your latest one come out?
Speaker 2 (40:40):
I think November. Fun. Yeah, it was fun, it was good,
it was sweet, it was cute, you know.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
But now you're both hosting Oh my god, gosh, yea,
I have all of that right here hot all the information.
Speaker 6 (40:56):
We're hosting dating shows.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
On different on network.
Speaker 5 (41:01):
Completely sure, Wait a minute, what I need to break
this down?
Speaker 3 (41:04):
Is it so fun?
Speaker 6 (41:06):
It's yes, stupid.
Speaker 7 (41:08):
Well, what happened was I was doing this dating show basically,
like so, I work at Hallmark. I'm like one of
their people, and they told me that they were starting
like a reality you know, branch, and I immediately started
pitching them reality show ideas, which they promptly rejected.
Speaker 6 (41:26):
They were like nine in a row.
Speaker 7 (41:27):
And when I say pitching, like I came up with
like decks, like they were really very well thought out,
like me dressing up as a fan and going on
the Christmas cruise and then revealing taking my like mask
off and revealing that it's me, Like that was like
a documentary idea I had. Anyway, they didn't like any
of those ideas, but then they called me because they
got to know me through my pitching, and asked if
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I would host a dating show.
Speaker 6 (41:49):
When I was like, of course. So I called Kim
like week.
Speaker 7 (41:53):
One of hosting this dating show, and I'm like, you
need to get yourself.
Speaker 6 (41:57):
A dating show.
Speaker 7 (42:00):
I was like, down right, RESTful, those are off the hook,
and you don't have to memorize lines. You could just
be a weirdo and so fun whatever you want. Yeah, okay,
And literally, Kim, was it like four days later you
got Yeah.
Speaker 8 (42:18):
But that was just coincidental, Like I didn't even call
my people, but it just so happened that like a
week later they called me and they said, there's this show.
It's called Farmer Wants a Wife. It's in their third
season and they're looking for a new host. And I
was like, I just heard that. That's the best gag
in town. I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (42:34):
Fun.
Speaker 3 (42:34):
Are you enjoying it? Yes?
Speaker 8 (42:36):
It was so fun. I mean it's it is so different.
But it's really great to just show up and be me, Like,
I mean, you guys must feel that doing this podcast
you get to just hang and be yourselves, isn't it really?
Speaker 3 (42:46):
Yeah, it's nice.
Speaker 4 (42:47):
But it's funny you say that because I will make
my billions doing something that's just myself, Like I need
a game show, I need to talk show, I need dating.
Speaker 2 (42:58):
Millions, billions. There's going to be to be Well, I'm
gonna parlay.
Speaker 4 (43:04):
I'm gonna parlay this whole thing into you know, I mean,
you can't even imagine what I've got planned. You can't
even imagine the branding, Ashley. I want to know what
your dating show is?
Speaker 2 (43:16):
What? What is it?
Speaker 7 (43:17):
Yeah, I'm doing a dating show for Hallmark called small
Town Setup, like town townspeople getting together to set up
like a single person in the town.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
It's okay, got it?
Speaker 5 (43:28):
So cute and it's so silly, And yours is similar
to right because it's like a farmer.
Speaker 8 (43:33):
Yeah, mine is in the title, so farmer wife, I kind.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
Of got it.
Speaker 8 (43:39):
Yeah, and the wives want a farmer, so it works
like they have to say yes. There's no like rose ceremony,
there's no wedding at the end, it's just are they
still interested? And it's really good television. And I could
relate to it because we grew up in New York
and here I am on a farm. I've got like
horses in the backyard and lots of you know, so nice.
Speaker 5 (43:59):
Yeah, I love horses and lots of poop. I like
muddy boots on a porch. I don't have that right now.
Speaker 4 (44:06):
I feel like it's you gotta make sure it's horse poop,
because you can't just say you like horses and lots
of poop.
Speaker 8 (44:12):
We have all the poop here though, I mean we
have all different kinds.
Speaker 5 (44:24):
Speaking of poop, yeah, I was my friends were staying
at my house in the in the desert. I looked
out onto at the window out on the second story
and on my roof is this pile of what I
think is bobcat.
Speaker 2 (44:41):
Yeah, it is, That's what that is.
Speaker 3 (44:46):
It's like and it's like just pooping in one spot.
Speaker 2 (44:50):
Oh wow, it's like it's a cat. It's I mean,
it has its literalates essentially, it's it's litter box.
Speaker 3 (44:54):
I mean it's it's But but what do I do?
Speaker 2 (44:58):
Just let it poop?
Speaker 5 (44:59):
Let it poop therein my roof?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Who cares? Just have like a little like poop section
on it.
Speaker 3 (45:08):
You better watch out.
Speaker 8 (45:10):
You better watch out for your little doggie though. You
don't want your dog to just be.
Speaker 2 (45:13):
Like yeah, no, no, an appetizer.
Speaker 3 (45:17):
I know he's like a teeny I've got. You also
have like a.
Speaker 5 (45:20):
Doberman and an Ausie, so I don't let them out
without the big dogs.
Speaker 3 (45:25):
Okay, But I love that you guys.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
When I was reading about everything about you both, you
guys are very open and vulnerable about the things that
are going on in your life, which I always love
and appreciate because I think it's important.
Speaker 3 (45:37):
But you know, like Kimberly when you.
Speaker 5 (45:39):
Lost your voice, Ashlely, you had a miscarriage, and you
talk openly about those things, like what was that? Like,
what are these things that you're super comfortable with being
open or is it something that you have to like
ask yourself and like go through the process.
Speaker 3 (45:54):
Of being like, Okay, I have to come out with it.
Speaker 8 (45:56):
That's such a great question.
Speaker 3 (46:00):
For myself.
Speaker 8 (46:01):
I feel like it's definitely something I've wrestled with, but
ultimately it's such a relief to be honest and tell
the truth. It's so much more preferable to hiding it
and feeling like I don't want anyone to know. That's exhausting.
And we've been through that so many times, like with
our mom who had Alzheimer's and told us not to
talk about it, so for years we didn't, and then
(46:22):
when we finally could, when she wasn't like aware anymore
that we were taking we were going to talk about it,
we like, haven't shut up about it, you know. And
then with my voice, I felt like when I was
in the middle of it, it was really hard for me,
to be honest, because I didn't know.
Speaker 3 (46:35):
If it was going to last for the rest of
my life.
Speaker 8 (46:37):
You know, those kind of health scares could be really
scary and challenging, and I was just terrified. But once
I found the answer and had the surgery and like
came through it, then I really wanted to talk about
it because I wanted other people to know that they're
not alone, and you know, this is what I've learned.
And I was so happy to have a voice. But
(47:00):
I just was excited to use it, you know, and Ash,
what about you with the miscarriage.
Speaker 7 (47:05):
I was just going to say, like I remember because
I was, you know, we were We're Kim and I
talk every day. So during her voice journey, I was
it was like an active part of every conversation we had,
you know, and helping her navigate a party or like
at one point she had to go to the White House,
(47:26):
like we were like what do we do? Like she
can't she'd lost her voice, and she was like going
to the White House and sitting next to I can't Jill.
Speaker 6 (47:32):
Was it like Jill Biden or something.
Speaker 7 (47:35):
Like navigating all those crazy things but but also having
to stay super private about it. And I remember, Kimmy,
when you came out of surgery, we I think you
sent me a text message and you were like, I
just wrote this and it was ultimately what you posted
on Instagram, but you like sent me and you were
(47:55):
like any changes, and I was like, no, this is amazing.
But it was like a big moment where you decided
to like come out and it was basically the morning
that you were in the hospital after your surgery, right yeah.
Speaker 8 (48:08):
And it felt like such a relief. It felt so vulnerable,
and I had no idea I'd forgotten. Really like when
people show up authentically, I think, I think the general
public really responds. And that's what happened is I just
poured my heart out into this and then I turned
my phone off when I went and like meditated, which
is my new thing since being through with the Voice journey,
(48:29):
I have been meditating. And I came back like I've
kind of forgot about it. And I came back an
hour later and I saw that it had blown up
and people had really responded to it in like a
way that I hadn't. I hadn't had a reaction like
that in years. And then I felt like oh gosh,
what have I done. There's no putting that Genie back
in the bottle, but I'm still like so glad that
(48:49):
I did.
Speaker 4 (48:50):
What was your hesitation, you know from the beginning, you
know why, just just just pure privacy or was there
a fear there of some kind?
Speaker 8 (49:00):
Yeah, there was a lot of fear. It was very
embarrassing to me.
Speaker 3 (49:03):
I don't know.
Speaker 8 (49:03):
I think it's hard to explain, but I guess I
felt sort of invisible for two years. I felt like
a ghost. I felt I felt like it was my fault.
Speaker 3 (49:11):
For some time.
Speaker 8 (49:12):
I just had a lot of stuff. There was actually
like some guilt around the stuff talking about my mom
and Alzheimer's. I think like there was an emotional component
and like all this stuff that I had been feeling about,
like oh I can't talk about something was kind of
like taught by our mom in some way like that,
you know, so that like coming through the end of
her Alzheimer's journey and deciding we were going to talk
(49:34):
about it.
Speaker 3 (49:35):
I felt a lot of guilt about that.
Speaker 8 (49:37):
So that was just part of my understanding all of
like how I use my voice, how I show up?
Speaker 3 (49:43):
What was my internal voice is?
Speaker 6 (49:44):
You know?
Speaker 8 (49:45):
What I really learned in trying to find my external voice,
and so it just felt like it was all a
very vulnerable thing because it was so real that.
Speaker 3 (49:55):
It was scary to share.
Speaker 5 (49:57):
How is that navigating? And this is for both of
you with your with the hubbies, like are they comfortable with.
Speaker 3 (50:04):
You know, being more outward or do.
Speaker 5 (50:07):
They sometimes feel like you know, because that's my My
biggest thing is that I'm going to say something and
then someone else is going.
Speaker 3 (50:17):
To be up said of me.
Speaker 2 (50:18):
You know.
Speaker 3 (50:18):
It's like there's all these moving parts.
Speaker 5 (50:20):
Whether it's my brother, whether it's my other brother, whether
it's my parents, whether it's my.
Speaker 3 (50:23):
Partner or with my kids.
Speaker 5 (50:24):
It's like I could talk about anything, and yet I
sometimes feel like I'm gonna let someone down if I
say something personal.
Speaker 3 (50:34):
You know.
Speaker 6 (50:34):
Yeah, I totally relate to that.
Speaker 7 (50:35):
And it's so funny because earlier, Oliver, you were like,
and tell us about your husband, and my husband, Neil
is a producer and he's amazing, and then and I
was like, well, and you know he he's had to
stay home a lot recently. And then I was thinking,
after like moved on, I'm like, is the only time
I'm going to talk about my incredible husband, the fact
that he's the one having to take care of the
(50:56):
kids recently. That's not I was like, here's that is
he going to be like I can't believe you, Like
like that was the one thing you said about.
Speaker 2 (51:02):
Me, Like like I've done a lot more than this.
Speaker 7 (51:06):
Because meanwhile, like like the truth is my husband is
Kim can attest like the greatest human that the most
like selfless, generous, kind and also fiercely protective of our kids.
So like we don't post pictures of our kids online
around some like we're just super freaked out about doing
that without their consent, and like how.
Speaker 4 (51:28):
Do they I U, I use them to get more
followers and potentially make more money on Instagram.
Speaker 2 (51:33):
So from the opposite, me too, yeah.
Speaker 7 (51:40):
Like and honestly truly to each his own, but like
my husband was really like, you know, fiercely protective of
them and and and there is like a privacy element.
And at the same time, he is a producer, Like
he knows this industry, you know, just as well as anyone,
and he knows that the more honest I am, you know, oftentimes,
the more people can connect with me.
Speaker 6 (52:00):
So it's a balance you know it's.
Speaker 8 (52:03):
Yeah, I feel like I think that that's the same
for me. Like you just have to make sure that
whatever story I'm telling that that it'll be one that
they're okay with.
Speaker 3 (52:13):
That's hard.
Speaker 8 (52:13):
It's a fine line. I mean, you guys understand that
because you've grown up that public GUYE.
Speaker 4 (52:17):
Yeah, we don't have a ton of time. But just
the Alzheimer with your mother, I mean, I don't think
I've ever actually spoken to someone who's dealt with that
who I know actually, well, but is there a is
there a moment where it turns or is it very gradual?
You know, it's a very basic, sort of simplistic question,
(52:39):
but is it is it a very gradual decline or
is there that moment?
Speaker 6 (52:45):
Thank you so much for talking about this. I appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (52:47):
Yeah.
Speaker 8 (52:48):
I remember a doctor told us once, if you've met
one person with Alzheimer's, you've met one person with Alzheimer's,
So it can be different for everybody. Our mom had
frontotemporal lobe disorder, a primary progressive phasia, which like took
five to seven years. They said it would take her
five to seven years before she would need full time care.
But like I look back, and I do remember it
(53:09):
was actually at my wedding that there was a moment
where I was like, oh my gosh, what happened to mom?
She was really irrational and really upset the day of
my wedding because she wasn't in the ceremony, which was
very odd, like that was kind of out of character
for her. And so that day we gave her something
to read in the ceremony because she was like having
(53:31):
a total meltdown and she got up to read it
and couldn't get through the reading, like kept stumbling and
faltering like and that was so unlike her. She was
someone that was used to speaking in front of people.
And we didn't know for another two years, but when
we finally found out, I remembered that moment was like huh,
I think that was the beginning.
Speaker 2 (53:50):
Mmm. Wow.
Speaker 4 (53:51):
And then once it was diagnosed, you know, then there
was the awareness becomes your forefront and so your almost
witnessing and watching and waiting.
Speaker 7 (54:02):
Yeah, it's complicated, like it's you know, they say it's
like death by paper cut, and it really is that,
Like it's really like these tiny, teeny, tiny little micks
like I remember in like it was like two thousand
and one, I was like in between auditions in New
York City, and I swung into her office down in
like Lower Manhattan to like pee and get a free snack,
you know. And I walked into her office and she
(54:24):
was hunched over the phone book and I walked in
and I said hi. She goes, oh, thank god you're here.
How do you suppose Chicago? That was like two thousand
and one, so that was years before your wedding him, right,
And I remember being.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
Like, she's dotty, she's hilarious.
Speaker 7 (54:43):
My mother is hilarious, you know, right, And then the
weirdest thing is that then thirty seconds later she's like, hey,
I made a reservation for lunch, let's go, you know,
and like completely normal. Like it's these all these different
tracks in your brain and one of them suddenly is
like off the rails for a second. And then you're
(55:04):
like that was weird. But that's what's crazy about it
is that kind of happens to all of us.
Speaker 3 (55:08):
All day, especially Yeah you don't know, Yeah, I don't know.
Sometimes sometimes you're like.
Speaker 5 (55:13):
Oh my god, I can't remember that name, but they're
like I know this person.
Speaker 6 (55:20):
So all of us have a phasia all day. What's
the name name, that's a phasia.
Speaker 7 (55:25):
But our mother had something called primary progressive aphasia, which
was just it it didn't stop like it was all day. Yeah.
Speaker 8 (55:31):
I think the distinction is if it's interfering with your
daily life, then it's something to get checked out. If
it's I mean, if it's like, oh, I forget someone's's name,
that that's not as big a deal as this is
interfering with my work life or my family life. It's
starting to change, right.
Speaker 4 (55:47):
But there's been a lot, a lot has been done
recently with Alzheimer's, at least from a news standpoint, you know,
reading things, hearing things, you know, it seems like there's breakthroughs.
If not now, but the few sure could look bright now.
I mean, I'm sure you guys have a lot of
information on that.
Speaker 8 (56:04):
Yeah, I'm really hopeful, you know, hopefully funding for research
will continue and we can find some of these answers
because it does take a lot of money. Yeah, you know,
so that that's kind of frustrating it right now because
we need we need a lot of research. But there
are a lot of irons in the fire, and we've
been connected to some fantastic doctors who are doing really
(56:26):
phenomenal work. And there you know, there are some medicines
there that can slow down the progress, and so I
am hopeful.
Speaker 7 (56:41):
And FYI, the Alzheimer's Association, just to give them a
little plug, has the most incredible resources.
Speaker 6 (56:47):
They have a one eight hundred number. You can google it.
Speaker 7 (56:48):
I don't know what it is, but they have somebody
twenty four hours a day who will answer the phone
locally in your area, can connect you with resources locally
in your area, therapists, you know, nurses, support groups, et cetera.
Because the prevalence of abuse is incredibly high and it's
(57:10):
not interesting of the loyalty as Yeah, and even if
it's not abuse, but it's like the caregivers not going
to their own doctor's appointments, or the caregivers not getting
enough sleep or enough food, like they really need support.
Speaker 8 (57:25):
So yeah, I agree, Ash, And the hotline number is
terrific and they'll connect you with free resources.
Speaker 2 (57:31):
Well, I imagine just patients in general.
Speaker 4 (57:34):
I mean, we all have children, you know how our
nerves get forget frayed and we go crazy and we
have to check ourselves because holy fuck, let me just
figure out why.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
I'm like this.
Speaker 4 (57:45):
But I can imagine, you know, you have to be
pretty patient and sort of go within yourself and start
a true meditation, because.
Speaker 2 (57:53):
You know it can be. I can't imagine how frustrating
it can get, you know.
Speaker 3 (57:57):
Yeah, this was so great. You guys are the sweetest.
Speaker 2 (58:02):
Many are the best. This is fun, really fun.
Speaker 5 (58:04):
I'm going to come to Nashville at some point, probably
this summer, because I'm going to come meet a bunch
of people and write so amazing.
Speaker 3 (58:12):
Don't come, yeah, reach out hi? Yeah, that'd be great.
Speaker 2 (58:16):
All right?
Speaker 4 (58:17):
Two part question you know of your sibling obviously, the
first part is if there was one thing that you
can emulate from them that you could have for yourself,
what would that be? And second part is if there
was something that you could alleviate from them, what would
(58:37):
you take away to make their life just better a
little more smooth?
Speaker 8 (58:41):
That is the sweetest question. Both of those things are amazing.
I think for me, what I love so much and
wish I had is Ashley's just full belly laugh. That's
just like rings throughout a room and like changes the
atmosphere of a room. That's the first part and the
(59:03):
second part is actually used to be a doulula, and
she has this ability to like talk someone through a
panic attack or through a hard moment, And I am
so grateful to be the recipient of that. But I
wish I had that ability that ash that you have.
I wish I could give her like twenty four hour
childcare just as needed.
Speaker 6 (59:31):
That would be really help.
Speaker 5 (59:32):
Yeah, you and every other mother in the world.
Speaker 3 (59:37):
It's like, so it's the hardest job ever.
Speaker 5 (59:41):
I sometimes think to myself, like, you know, I don't
think I'd ever want to.
Speaker 3 (59:47):
Be a stay at home mom just because it's so
much work. Like I don't know what I would do.
Speaker 5 (59:51):
If I didn't have work and all I was doing
was the kids. I think I'd go crazy, like I
need help. And then you think, of course, because we're
not supposed to do it alone. We're supposed to all
be doing it together, like all the late all the
girls are supposed to come together and help each other
raise each other's children.
Speaker 3 (01:00:07):
That's like what we're meant to do, right, you know, our.
Speaker 5 (01:00:09):
Community is supposed to be there for us, and we've
lost sight a little bit of that as you going, Okay, So.
Speaker 7 (01:00:16):
For Kim, so I'm gonna say, Kim is so good
at honestly looking not I mean definitely at herself, but
at me, uh and telling me, like in a really
honest way what I could be doing better and how
to see a situation from another person's perspective, Like there
(01:00:38):
is a loyalty in that, I swear, But most of
the time what she's saying is, well, it sounds like
you were kind of a jerk. It helps me see
what my shortcomings are. And she does it to herself
and she does it for me, and I wish I
could do it for myself better.
Speaker 6 (01:00:55):
But what I all I need to do when I
look at a situation is go, what would she you say?
I'm not seeing? Or where am I coming up short here?
And it's it's something that I continue.
Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
To strive for that I've learned from her, and I'm
and I need to strengthen because I'm the first person
to be like it was mean, you know, and Kim's.
Speaker 1 (01:01:16):
Like, okay, but you did yell first, you know, or
that like a very helpful thing.
Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
And in terms of alleviating you know, it's interesting we
talked a lot about like Kim, who Kim's parents were
when she was growing up as opposed to mine. And
what I wish I could give her a dose of
is the like, screw the rules, touch, touch the table.
You know it happens, you know, get messed bit and
(01:01:49):
you'll and you'll see that like we're all still here,
loving you, and you know you're not in troubles in
charge anymore, you.
Speaker 2 (01:01:59):
Know, Touch the goddamn table.
Speaker 8 (01:02:01):
All right, I'll go back, all right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
We gotta roll. Love you guys, Thank you so much, Thank.
Speaker 8 (01:02:08):
You so much, so much, so nice getting to know
you you too.
Speaker 3 (01:02:12):
Come see us in Nashville.
Speaker 2 (01:02:14):
I will best, I will
Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
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