July 28, 2025 • 37 mins
Comedy superstar Kevin James pulls no punches in this funny and frank chat with Oliver about career, family and his new action flick "Guns Out."
Kevin opens up about why some stunts might be better left to professionals, the night he bombed on stage and the role his sibling played in his success.
Plus, is there another sitcom in his future? "The King of Queens" star spills what it would take to make that happen.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling Railvalry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth, revelry.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
That's good. Oliver Hudson here reporting live from Sibling Revelry Radio.
This is no longer a podcast. This is a radio station.
I've changed my whole fucking voice. Welcome to w k
RB Sibling Revelry Radio. We play all the hits and
all the cuts, no if snow ans, and no butts.
(00:56):
Here we go. Let's start it off with a little
Oasis Wonderwall kick it. Oh sorry, our fucking music doesn't work.
Let me just talk then. I don't know what I
just did, but I just did it. That's kind of
my motto in life. I don't know what I just did,
but I just did it. You know what, I'm gonna
put that on a T shirt, actually on on my phone,
(01:20):
and I'm doing this as we speak. You can see this,
hear this in real time. I have on my notes,
I have like a list of all kinds of crazy
T shirt ideas. I would read them off, but I
don't want anyone to steal them because I'm going to
create an online store and sell these. Hold on right
here we go. I don't know what I just did,
(01:42):
but I just did it. Boom, billion dollar idea right there. Anyway,
it's me, oh double lie the number one MC and
we're just kicking it. We're in Colorado. It's a bit
of a gloomy day, but it's about to get much
(02:04):
brighter because my boy, my friend. I've actually worked with
this man before. He's extremely funny, he's borderline iconic and uh,
he's got a cool ass movie coming out with Christina
Reached called Guns Up. I haven't seen it, saw the trailer.
It looks amazing. My boy, Kevin James is here and
(02:24):
we get to talk about his life, his brother is
growing up, how he became so funny, and what it's
like talking to me, which is the most important thing.
So without further it's bringing keV. What's happening, man? How
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm doing good? How about you?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm good. I'm good. I'm in Colorado and where my
sundown room?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah you're not in Colorado, man, you have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Something I've got decorating issues if I'm not in Colorado. Yeah,
and I'm on the floor of my kid's room because
it's such a packed house. I got to find a
quiet at place like I love it. This is my
new life. I know where are you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I am in Beverly Hills right now too. I'm out
here doing Uh. Jelly Roll is a guest hosting Jimmy Kimmel,
so he he's I guess. I guess Kimmel takes off
like a week or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Didn't you just do something with him?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Though?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Were you came in on stage with.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Jelly Yes, yeah, performed it? Uh gosh, it was Ohio
State Stadium, seventy people.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh my, how was that?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was insane? It was? It was really it was
absolutely nuts. It was scary as can be. Yeah. The horseshoe, Yeah,
not fun. It was fun, but it was fun once
it was over. Put it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I get it. I get you.
But I've been good man. I'm here for a little bit. Actually,
go to New York to the Happy Gilmore Too premiere.
I was in it, so I saw it. Yes, it
was Did you see the movie? Yes, here's the thing
I haven't seen it yet, You haven't, No, No, I
haven't seen it yet. It's ridiculous, Yeah, of course, the
(04:07):
biggest like.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It literally it made me want to have and I
know it's not going to happen, but these movies in
theaters again because I saw in the theater the crowd
was just going crazy for it, you know, yeah, ridiculous
and it was like, that's what I want. And I know,
possible to come back or not, but.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, it feels like the movie experience is slowly coming back,
you know, but it's not there.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We see all these big tent pole movies, you know,
these Marvel movies, and you know they're they're making some money,
but yeah, that experience, man, I hope hopefully it does.
Hopefully it does come back.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, they're all the they're all the big you know,
massive action yeah and stuff. But we just shot a
romantic comedy in Rome that I really I'm so excited
about it. You know. It's it's not that it's that
different or anything, but it just feels like it has
that old classic feel of a really really funny, real
(05:09):
good balance of of of all the you know, romance
and and and comedy and great people in it, and uh,
we're doing that in theaters, So I'm good.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Who'd you do that? Who did you do that with?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I did it with? You know, it was all Italian
actors and Kim Coates, you know, Kim Coates from you know,
Sons of Anarchy, and Jonathan Roomy was another guy, and uh,
you know, we had Alison Hannigan and it was just
she's amazing. So it was it was just such a
(05:42):
fun experience. And again we're we're putting I'm a little
afraid to bring that to the theaters because it's it is,
you know, crazy the world. But I love it. We've
screened it and it's it seems so fit for that.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And well it seems like the romantic comedies is sort
of coming back, you know what I mean. I hope Yeah,
I mean me too. Movies are just in a funny place.
But you had a cool one. So I watched the
trailer for Guns Up. It looks fun.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, it's a fun one. Yeahci is so bad ass
in that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Man, dude, I know, because you're not used to seeing her.
I've known her like for a million years. You're nice
to seeing her in these kinds of roles and halfway
through the trailer she's fucking pulling out guns. Yes, you know,
and and you know, obviously it doesn't give it away
in the trailer, but there's something going on with her.
You know, she's obviously some sort of an operative, some kind.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
She's she's a bad ass, and it's it almost you know,
it's actually a surprise to me as well, but it is.
She she and she stepped up. She was so game
to play and everything we did with her, and she was.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Just she was awesome in it is What do you
like doing that kind of it's not drama necessarily, but
having a little more serious playing a hit man, you know,
is that Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean it's it's it's got a fun you know,
when you do sitcom for so long and you're playing
the same type of characters and then you're doing the
movies and you get kind of locked into these you know,
there's a big kid, yeah, and it's the big goofy
guy of falls. That's always fun to do something a
little bit different, but again, like this is, you know,
it's a little bit different with the comedy and the action.
Like I do love working the action. Of course, as
(07:19):
I get older, it's getting so freaking hard. I wore
my bicep in this thing I do. Oh my god,
look at this thing. I literally, ah, dude, right through
the whole thing. And we didn't even start filming it.
This was right before we're doing you know, the choreography. Yeah,
get ripped. And I'm like, man, this is sixty this
is this is what's happening. Yeah, this stuff. So it's
(07:41):
like you got to keep yourself in shape. I gotta
try to do it. I don't. I don't even stretch.
And I go out to this stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well that's because we're used to because you're an athlete,
right and and like yeah I was. I was always
athletic and we never had to stretch. I never had
to stretch. I could just go play basketball, go play hockey,
do whatever. Right now, as we get older, I was like,
oh jeez, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Not even you were feeling it. Look at you, yeah,
and then look at me and then say, well you
know what. I'm like, Wow, it's like my body is
just like what are you doing? And it's like inside here,
I'm like trying to move on camera like you guys,
you know, and it's it's just getting harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, dude, I had such a false sense of my
athletic ability. We were in Greece with the this summer
with the whole family, which was an amazing like right, mom,
Kurt Wyatt, like everyone, everybody last. But so the boys
wanted to race. You know, it's rider wilder body. Everyone
was racing. I was like, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna race.
I'm gonna show them. I'm almost fifty. But I was
(08:40):
always pretty fast. It was humbling. I was so slow
that they're like, let's race again. I said, absolutely not.
I will never sprint ever in front of a human
in my life again. Yeah. Yeah, but I thought I
still had it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I've always loved, you know, being able to think like
I'm I'm pretty quick, man, Like I'm pretty fast. If
anybody steps, you know, I can go and I can show.
I saw footage of myself hitting mits, just hitting mits,
you know, focus. It looked like a seventy five year
old guy that was drunk at a barbecue just stepped up.
The balance was off everything like slow. I'm like, that's
(09:18):
not hitting, that's not landing on anybody getting out of
the way. So it was pretty humbling.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I gotta say yeah, and I like, can we speed
up the film like two x?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
They're like, well, this is I mean, we we this
is not already They go, we already have we took
every break out that we could And you're like, oh no,
you know, yeah, it's it's tough. They already know the
tricks with me going in and it's like, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, did you find that? You know, because
you said before you do this sitcom forever, and we'll
go I'm gonna get back in your child just in
a little bit. But you do this sitcom forever and
it's amazing and it makes your career and you make
a ton of dough, but you're sort of stuck in
this world and then you get into the sort of
movies and you become type cast a little bit. Did
(10:03):
you have to make a conscious decision to say, you
know what, like I want to do something different now,
you know, I need to step outside of the stab
out of the box a little bit and make a
concerted effort to do shit. Yeah, I mean not the
same or do you even care?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I didn't care as much as like it appeared like,
you know, I did a movie called Becky, which was
like during COVID it was just in drive ins and
stuff like that where I played this like white supremacist
guy that it's it's a crazy, you know, action movie too,
but it's it's it's a little bit can't it's a
campy movie. Uh, and you know it was It wasn't
(10:42):
like they asked me to do it and they said,
you know, we love it, and then I was like, yeah,
it was different. I wanted to do a good job
with it. But it's not like I'm out searching like
I have to play show the world that you know,
you know, I'm Christian bale Man. I can show you
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's like it's it's story, not that I don't wants
and like it is fun to have a challenge where
you where you you're out doing something different. But yeah,
I was originally in that movie asked to be the
father and I was like, you know what, I don't
want to do that, like the father of the girl
that you know, and I said, when't play the bad guy.
So it's like just maybe something different.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, And how much the stand up sort of come
back into your life? You know, you look at well,
you look at Sandler, right, the dude has done everything
you could possibly imagine. Yet he is still out on
the road doing his thing. You know, I mean are
you because you do you have a special, You have
a special just come out or it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Came out of the last year. We have another one
that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Another one that's coming out. That's right, Yes, because he
loves it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You know, we were talking about he's going back out
on the road again.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I just I'm it's it's something. It's how I started,
It's how he started. I mean, it's it's it's just
something that is I don't know, it's it's so different
than than movie making and any you know, TV or
any being in a series. It really is. You don't
have to answer to anybody. As far as we'll get
the script back, let's give we'll give you notes, and
(12:06):
we'll do the development and all that process. It's go
and it's you know, right stuff and edit it and
put it up that night and see if it works.
And and I don't think there's anybody better at it
than him as far as I mean making it an event.
You know, he makes it with the music he has
in it, in the comedy and the people show up.
I jumped up, you know, I don't know, a few
(12:28):
gigs with him. Yeah, yeah, it's insane, from the police
escort to the fans and the jerseys and you know
what I'm saying, It's like it's different than when I
do it. You know, he just made it so incredible
and yet it couldn't be you know, it couldn't be more.
You know, up his out. He just loves it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know it seems like it gets you just back
to your roots a little bit as well, right, I
mean for you, it's just kind of like I do
all these things and just to have a mic in
a stage in an audience simple.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, he calls me. He'll call me and hey,
what do you think of this joke? I just wrote
this joke. I went up and he went up in
front of twelve people. Know, he's putting it up everywhere,
just trying to get up and get some reps in.
And you know, he just loves it. He loves it
so much. Yeah, you know, he doesn't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So what'd you grow up?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And is it just you and Gary? No?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Me and Gary, my sister Leslie. We grew up on
Long Island, and that was the thing. It was. You know,
we were middle lower class, middle middle class for comedy.
It was always looking for that. Like I had a
decent upbringing. You know, I didn't have the crazy uncle.
(13:48):
I didn't have you know, it was like Little League
and McDonald's and slurpies and you know, it was just
everything kind of pretty normal, which was hard to write.
Stand up that I didn't have these crazy stories, this
edge and these angles that these other comedians did. I'm like, man,
I could talk about my dog, I could talk to
(14:08):
the exactly exactly. So. But it was a great upbringing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Man, did you grow up? What did your parents do?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well? My dad was in insurance salesman. He sold insurance
and my mother pretty much took care of the home
and took care of us. She got a job for
a while as a like a secretary.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Was it a creative house though? In general? I mean,
were you was there a creative freedom or just it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It wasn't creative. It was just kind of more of
that like you know, Sundays having everybody the company over
and you know, like christ will always talk about performing
in front of his you know it was that it
was like we would get there and do impressions and
laugh and drinking, and I remember my parents it's like
smoking in the house, the parents, friends and everybody and
these wild parties and me and my brother would kind
(14:57):
of get up and do like impressions and things like
that that and just kind of goof around, but never
really you know, I definitely wasn't a comedian that thought like,
hey man, when you know, at eight year old, eight
years old and I want to be on the Tonight
Show and I want to you know, become a stand up.
I didn't. I didn't have those I.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Just he was an entertainer for your family, meaningly, like
making people laugh and exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It was dinner table stuff like yeah, half all time,
and then the same thing at school.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I was never like a class clown. But it was like,
you know, I was just having fun with my boys
and that was it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Did you ever? But was there a moment when you're like, oh,
wait a minute, like I think this is what I
want to do and then and then like a lead
up to that is sort of was there anything that
you wanted to do prior meaning I wanted to be
a cop, I wanted to be this, not I.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Wanted to be the stand up came to me because
a lack of anything else I could do. I look
at the college I was. I wanted to be an athlete.
I want to be like I wanted to play football.
I was running back in high school. I never went
to class, so I didn't have the grades. Like I didn't.
I could never get into a great college. Not because
I didn't have I wasn't smart enough. It was just
(16:02):
more that I just never applied myself, like I never
went to class. And yeah, I had to go to
a you know, I was getting these you know, scholarship
offers to these colleges that I couldn't They wouldn't accept
me because of so my SATs. I cheated on my
SSATS and still only got a nine p fifty. Copied
off the guy. I copied off the guy next to me,
(16:24):
I remember, and copying in sections, not knowing that they
changed the sections on each Yeah, didn't match up.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, by the way, I got your B Dude, I
got a seven sixty on my ESSAYT and I didn't cheat. No,
you went straight in, oh, dude, I mean I didn't.
I was a horrible student. I got expelled from high
school from the same your cheating situation. I cheated. I
had the right answers on the wrong test because she
loved it. I put two tests out different ones. I
(16:52):
didn't even care to look at the question.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So, yeah, I can feel you there with that's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So that that made me end up at Courtland State Sunny,
you know, State University of New York Division III football,
where it was like it and when you this is
you know, when you start to realize even the athletes
there were like the running backs were just so good
men and this division three. So it's like, when you
(17:18):
can't cut it at division three, your hopes are becoming
a professional, you gotta you gotta cut bait here. You
gotta look for something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, So I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Finish college, and I went home and I was bouncing
at the time in a couple of clubs on Long Island,
and my brother joined this like improv group they started
and they started doing stand up and that's I started
doing like, uh, community theater and just said, let me
try this now.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I failed at everything else, And so Gary was the.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
One who kind of led you into it a little bit, right.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, Gary started before I did. He had a group
of guys and you know, uh, he was doing it,
and I'm sure he was pissed off. When I was like,
I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Too, He's like, yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I came in and thankful enough, he was pretty cool
to me, and he was like, you know, you got
to do this. And I remember him saying, like when
I started stand up, he was like, you really need to,
you know, go Every night he was are you doing
stand up? He came home, I was home living at
my parents' house and he's like, are you doing stand
up tonight? And I said, I'm not. I booked And
at the time then you would sign up for like
(18:22):
open mic nights and it would be like once every
like three weeks, you get your name on a list.
It was so crazy because it was everybody trying to
do it. It was really hot stand up. Yeah, And I said,
I'm not working for like three weeks, so like I'm
not going to work tonight, and he's like, you're an idiot.
He goes, if you want to do stand up, you
got to be at the clubs every night and just
try to get on and you know, he says, you
don't know what will happen, and he was right because
(18:44):
I went down to the club that night. I didn't
have a spot, but I hung out and I ended
up meeting who turned out to like be my first agent.
So then, you know, it was like smart to kind
of go out there and just watch other comedians, watch
people how they did it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And yeah, what was your material like in the beginning,
you know it was? It was it. When you're looking
back on it, we were like, oh man, that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Was parent Yes, yes, it was just it was terrible.
It would get me back like my first time, thank god,
and I didn't. I was I was very like I
didn't want to stack the audience with like most comedians
would bring all their family and friends. Yeah, you wouldn't
get a true reading of how you would do. Yeah,
I wouldn't do that, I said, first stand up. I
(19:24):
remember it was July twenty sixth, nineteen eighty nine, at
the east Side Comedy Club on Long Island. I drank
I think like four course lights in the in the
parking lot before, and I just went in there. I
would not have my family come in and watch, and
I just went in there we recorded it on whatever
it was, this crappy little camera and I did great.
(19:47):
I did like, it went really well and it was,
you know, it's like an out of a body experience,
really and I was so happy about it. And we
listened to it and this and that, and I thought,
this is going to be easy. Stand up is easy.
When I got invited like two nights later to come back,
and I did the same set. And when I tell
you that, I ate it so bad, like like, I mean,
(20:09):
every joke and once you're off a little bit and
you're nervous, you don't know how that's it. Yeah, timing
everything couldn't go. And you know the audience is they're
like a dog in any sense that. Yeah, yes, And
I was so done. I couldn't. I couldn't get back
on track. I couldn't think what I was saying. So nervous,
I could just literally I was hearing the lights, the
(20:29):
humm the lights. It was so quiet. I ate it
so bad. And I'm just grateful that I didn't quit
after that one, because that was one that I should
have I should have given it up. Most people would
have quit.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, well I guess you got you gotta eat it.
I mean, that's just part of the It's.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Important, and it's important, and I ate it for a while,
Like I I would have good shows. Thank god, I
had good shows in between. Keep me going. It's like golf, man,
you know, yeah, good golf shot, it brings you back.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, it's so true. Golf is that completely that sport.
And for some reason, it always happens on eighteen. You know,
it's like you're playing horribly and then on eighteen like
I'm done. I'm done with this sport. I've played it
all my life and I am done, and then you
have an amazing whole exactly, it's still there, ye still there.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
The way it really stand up?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, you know, it's funny because I love to tell stories.
I don't write jokes. I did a show with Bobby
Lee for two years, and he's because we were just joker.
It's like, dude, you got to do stand up. You
gotta do five minutes. I get you five minutes and like,
no way, man, Like it's too scary, so scary to me.
I wouldn't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I am easy for you. Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Just tell tell some stories, but I don't know what
the hell you go up and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You do it. You act like you're bringing someone else up,
you're bringing them just tell one story, right, and then
you just expanded.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
A little Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You're feeling man, it's like.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It looks it does like it says, looks fulfilling, you know,
and the eating part you just have to take. And
I guess there's something beautiful about that as well. There
really is, because you're in a club. Everyone has eaten it.
So it's not like, you know, it's like there's a
commiseration where it's like this one time, yes, you know,
(22:19):
maybe I will.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I don't know, we'll see see a good bucket listing.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So did you and Gary? Are you and your siblings
get along well growing up? You know? Or was there
was there infighting? What was the vibe?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We were Okay, the vibe was kind of normal. It
wasn't like we were We weren't buddy buddy though older
than me and my sister's two years younger. It's kind
of like, you know, we fought a lot in the house,
you know, like like any kids around, you know, grab
my stuff that's mine? Is that? But uh, didn't you
know we weren't buddy buddy either. I remember I got
(22:51):
good at sports because I played with like Gary's friends.
I would play tackle football in the street, like he's
crazy where I didn't have my friend to do it.
So these guys are three years older and I'm running
the ball with them and they're throwing me down, you know.
So it's like I toughened up a lot with them,
which was good.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Was it competitive with you and Gary, especially him being
your older Yeah, you know, brother, where all of a
sudden you're coming up and bang bang bang.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I gotta say he there wasn't. I'm sure there were
times where it's like, you know, I always brought him on,
you know, and I always hated it because I didn't
want to give him like a spot on the show,
because you know, I didn't want him to think like
you know, or anybody think like I'm just doing it
because he's my brother.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, I think it was funny and I love money. Yeah,
I played a ton of golf with Gary.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
How do I do this without doing it? But there
can't not be I'm sure, you know, I don't know.
There's times where it's like, you know, he's like, yeah,
I remember this when I came out with Ray. When
Ray had his show, I remember I had just got
The King of Queens and I would follow Ray on
the red carpet, like I learned everything from Ray on
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how to do a sitcom. Like I watched because I knew,
you know, we've been friends, you know in the standard yeah,
you know, for so much. And then the fact that
he got a show, I was like, first of all,
I couldn't believe it because he's such a low, you know,
energy guy, and like totally it was a different like
what guys were to me, like the big wacky you know,
like you know, he's got I'm like this, this is death.
(24:22):
It's not gonna happen. And then it did, and he
was so good on his sitcom and the way he
threw things away, I was like, I have to watch him,
you know, and learn from him because I'm gonna be
too big on camera. And and by the way, still
like even in the King of Queens, when I see
episodes now I'm like throw away, I'm like, I wish
(24:46):
I could go back and do it. But like the
first few years of with you know, going with Ray,
you know, even when our shows came out, we go
to the CBS like functions and things like that, and
red carpet things was so rough off because they knew
him and my show had just come out, so they're
taking like, you know, it's like the Red Ye taking
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a thousand pictures of Ray kind of standing there and
nothing's clicking.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
There's no no flashes, nothing. Man, maybe maybe are disposable,
some dis I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Get closer to him, and they're like, I just don't
one to ray by him. It was tough. So, I mean,
I'm sure Gary feels that sometimes, but he's he's so
funny on his own and it's like, I just want
him to find his own lane. And it's hard.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It's hard, of course, Yeah, dude. I mean, look, you know,
we've had so many siblings on yeah, and we've had
a lot of celebrity siblings and they're you know, and
their brothers or sisters right right, and some of them
are not even in the business, so the question is moot,
but a lot of them are, you know, And I
always ask the question, is there jealousy? Is there envy?
(25:51):
And they all say, oh no, we support each other,
and I'm like, bullshit, because we all have that and
I I admit the I have envy of my sister,
and there's some jealousy there. Others fucking crushing right now.
I'm like, eh, you know, not to say that I
don't support them or love them or want them to
be amazing, but there is that feeling. The only person
was Chad Low. We had Rob Low and Chad, and
Chad's like, are you kidding me? Is that a real question?
(26:14):
Of course? Look at my brother, look at this, look
at how hot, look at his career.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, yeah, But honestly, he has been the
supportive part, which I'm always whether he's biting his tongue
and hating you know, there might be some of that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He's funny as hell too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And he's honestly, I have to say, I don't think
like if I would have found stand up first, I
don't think I would have taken him on my little
brother and brought him to the clubs and showed him
all the things, right, you know, like find your own thing, man,
I did.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So, how did King of Queen's come about? Were you?
How did that? How did you get to because I
know you, I know you had a deal there, right.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, I had. It was through stand up. I got
a deal, and I got it. I got booked at
the Montreal Comedy Festival, like nineteen ninety six or five,
five or six somewhere around then. And back then, stand
up is so hot that like all all the you know,
anybody who was in TV and you know, all the
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executives and from Hollywood would come out go to Montreal.
And I was, you know, been friends with Rogan forever.
We've started with the same manager, and we would always
go out and do the Montreal Comedy Festival together and
get spots. And this is this one year that I
was up there and he was kind of with me
and just it. He was he was the one telling me,
(27:44):
just get out of your shell you're at you know,
because I was like every other stand up and still
and to something were you know, it's the kind of
you know, the sleeves rolled up and the jacket, what's
going on here? You know, the questions and he's like, dude,
you're not like that. Man. He's like, I want you
to just snap go out there, yeah, don't be And
I really learned from him that, you know, instead of
like serving the whole audience, you know what you have
(28:06):
on the platinum do you want to take? Just he
would just do what he cared about and if the
audience that would have this you know feeling of like
if if I don't know what he's doing, it was
not funny. Everybody else thinks it's funny. Like it was
just he had such confidence that it was like that
was it really powered through and like I didn't have
it like I was. I would get nervous and try to,
(28:28):
you know, raise the volume or whatever. It's like I
was that confidence and he kind of helped me with
that a lot. And I had a really good set Montreal,
a couple of good sets, and we did well enough
that I got a I got a development deal at.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
NBC's that's that's that's like pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It was awesome. It was yeah, the fact that they
were interested and while I was in Montreal, this is
again this is when people it was like the wild.
It was so crazy because deals were happening and they
were giving them like and it's like, wow, we could
hit a big While I was in Montreal, they called
me to audition for SNL and I was so excited
about that. I flew back and I didn't know. I
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thought they were gonna just like kind of give it
to me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
They liked me, Yeah, like I got it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, like they saw my stand up. I didn't know
why I go, Why am I flying back if they're
gonna get it? Because I love it. I would love
to have done it, but I had to audition and uh,
they said, just do some of your characters. And I
had no characters. I had stand up. That's what I did.
So when I tell you I did, I remember Marcy
Klein was there. I did stand up in a in
a in a room with nobody. It was just a
(29:39):
microphone and myself. The cameras were going. I didn't see anything.
And again I ate it. I can't so bad and
had no idea, no characters, nothing, no reaction, nobody laughing
at any of my bits. And obviously I didn't get it,
(29:59):
which was the best thing for ye Ever, Yeah, I
couldn't do you know anything else?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah? Yeah? And so then so then you got this
deal and was it was your concept or did they
bring you this concept.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Michael Whitehorn, who was the writer the creator of the show,
had the concept of like he wanted to do like
a classic honeymooner it's like an updated version of the Honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, And he had seen a stand up tape of
mine and we met with him and then we started,
you know, working on it together. But it was his idea.
Initially we went to NBC, and NBC had shows like
Friends at that time, they were doing the office cubicle comedy.
(30:45):
They didn't want this one. They felt this one was
kind of like it was like kind of stupid, and
they didn't they didn't like they wanted me. They didn't
want me as a truck driver. They literally said that.
They said, does he have to be a truck driver?
Like the packages? Can he be? You know? And then
it was like, well that's what this guy is, you know.
It's they said, well at least can he They literally said,
can he be like go downstairs in the basement and
like play chess with somebody like in London on the internet?
(31:08):
Is when the Internet was coming through. They're like, well,
that's not this guy and they're like, well, if he's
not that guy, I guess then he might not be
a for us or And that's when we said, all right,
we're done with it. And then thank God's CBS called
and we did it there. They gave me because of
Ray's I think because of Ray being there and they
knew you know, I knew Ray, And I was able
(31:29):
to write an episode about golf yeah and be on
that and I think that gave him a little confidence
that we could do.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah. And then the casting process. Were you heavily involved
in that as well? Yes, because that's it. I mean,
you guys had such stupid chemistry, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
She was what I wanted her right from the beginning.
Leoh you did did yeah? Oh without I said we
have to get her. I just you know, we just
finally made it work. It just you know, she was
able to do it. She came in, she said she
didn't want to do a sitcom. Uh but she uh,
she she agreed to a meeting and she came in
and we just hit it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
She was like she was just so yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And then then once, you know, once the success happened,
was it just kind of like, oh my god, I
cannot believe that this is where it is or did
you always have that belief that now someday I'm going
to be here?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You know, No, I definitely didn't have that. You didn't
have it it was like I thought, like, you know,
the good things are happening, you know, I feel like
I'm meant to do all this stuff. I didn't expect
to be there. And even when I was there, when
we first, you know, first couple of years of having
a show, you're you're always looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, of course that now you think you.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Were this, you know this is gonna happen. I know,
where do I go? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Now we had that with rules of engagement.
It was always like with Spade, and I was always
kind of I don't know, like are we yeah, this happening,
no idea, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What it's gonna end, right, Like yeah, Chierco's all right,
we got picked up or we'd get like picked up
for like half Yes, it's kind of exactly slap in
the face.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's like, yeah, I love you that much, right exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But you know, as you progressed, how many seasons did
you do with the show?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We did nine?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean it's still in syndication right after all these.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
By the way, it's doing better now than it did
when we came out again. It was friends, it was Raymond.
It was all these other shows that we weren't, like
top ten, we weren't you know, we were doing well.
It was after you know, we followed Cosby for a
little bit and we got a good lead in and
then Raymond came on, so we were in that little
basketball hammock and it helped us. But we were never
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you know, Boom the President. They never talked about us.
But the better you know, we did much better in
syndication then we like, now I'm hearing more about it
than ever.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Clark, someone who knows the Ken Queens would come on
Netflix and all of a sudden have a billion view resurgence.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So it's right, right right, it's it's yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Would you ever do
another stick coomedy? Think? Or are you done with that?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's not that I would, I guess I would. I
mean do anything, I really. It's it's just different, you know,
you know, it's just a different kind of But I
loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well. The schedule too, is so great, you know, you know,
and you got your family and you know, it's just
so it's always so nice to sort of be here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, you know, it was really cool and uh like
I did one after that called Kevin Can Wait and
it ate it after like two years. It was a
fun one. But it was by my house on Long Island.
It had all my buddies were in it. You know,
it's like it was like a group of people and
you know, it just felt like this is so much fun. Man.
We were hanging out Friday nights. We just you know,
(34:56):
shoot the show and then stay around and but yeah,
you know it's it's a fun atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It is if something cool comes along the Yeah, yeah,
I would definitely look at you consider would you would you?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I mean, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I would. I would again if I
think there needs to be resurgence of the sitcoming. I
want to get back to the Rays or even your
show or Cheers, where you have incredible actors, incredible writers, playwrights.
People were on Broadway, you know, moving the camera inside
a little bit to have some coverage, to do a
sitcom that actually feels like something, you know what I mean.
(35:32):
I think it would be so great if a network
would take a chance on something like that rather than
going for sort of the big canned laugh stuff exactly.
That makes it smart again, how fucking smart and amazing
was cheers? It was great and characters there were dead depth,
you know, so yes, I mean I would love to
(35:53):
do some sick like that, you know, and if I
could stay in La of course it's the rest.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
This was great, man, it's really fun talking to you.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And when does when? When does guns Up come out?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It comes out Friday? Friday?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And where where can we watch it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I think it's I don't know theaters. Everywhere where's it?
I even know theaters and.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Streaming theaters and streaming, and then when who cares? Just
go watch it? Go find it? And then what about
what about the special? When is when's that specials coming along?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We're doing it now?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know the drop of it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well, it's good to talk to you, keV. Good to
see hopefully get to see him person to man. Alright,
alrybody later.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He's the best, such a cool guy. I haven't seen
him in forever. He looks great, even with that bicep. Man,
when he pulled his biceps out, I think I put
a teacher that biceped. No, it's bicep and he and
he had torn it. He was still like yoked. You
don't want to get into a scuffle with him. He
(36:56):
will destroy you. He's so strong and so fast and nimble.
He will destroy you. So all, for all those who
are listening right now, do not pick a fight with
Kevin James. You will get destroyed anyway. That was awesome.
I love that guy and I'm out. Priest to the Gods.
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Speaker 3 (37:20):
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Speaker 1 (00:21):
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Here we go. Let's start it off with a little
Oasis Wonderwall kick it. Oh sorry, our fucking music doesn't work.
Let me just talk then. I don't know what I
just did, but I just did it. That's kind of
my motto in life. I don't know what I just did,
but I just did it. You know what, I'm gonna
put that on a T shirt, actually on on my phone,
(01:20):
and I'm doing this as we speak. You can see this,
hear this in real time. I have on my notes,
I have like a list of all kinds of crazy
T shirt ideas. I would read them off, but I
don't want anyone to steal them because I'm going to
create an online store and sell these. Hold on right
here we go. I don't know what I just did,
(01:42):
but I just did it. Boom, billion dollar idea right there. Anyway,
it's me, oh double lie the number one MC and
we're just kicking it. We're in Colorado. It's a bit
of a gloomy day, but it's about to get much
(02:04):
brighter because my boy, my friend. I've actually worked with
this man before. He's extremely funny, he's borderline iconic and uh,
he's got a cool ass movie coming out with Christina
Reached called Guns Up. I haven't seen it, saw the trailer.
It looks amazing. My boy, Kevin James is here and
(02:24):
we get to talk about his life, his brother is
growing up, how he became so funny, and what it's
like talking to me, which is the most important thing.
So without further it's bringing keV. What's happening, man? How
are you?
Speaker 3 (02:42):
I'm doing good? How about you?
Speaker 2 (02:44):
I'm good. I'm good. I'm in Colorado and where my
sundown room?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah you're not in Colorado, man, you have to go.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Something I've got decorating issues if I'm not in Colorado. Yeah,
and I'm on the floor of my kid's room because
it's such a packed house. I got to find a
quiet at place like I love it. This is my
new life. I know where are you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I am in Beverly Hills right now too. I'm out
here doing Uh. Jelly Roll is a guest hosting Jimmy Kimmel,
so he he's I guess. I guess Kimmel takes off
like a week or something like that.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Didn't you just do something with him?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Though?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Were you came in on stage with.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Jelly Yes, yeah, performed it? Uh gosh, it was Ohio
State Stadium, seventy people.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Oh my, how was that?
Speaker 3 (03:32):
It was insane? It was? It was really it was
absolutely nuts. It was scary as can be. Yeah. The horseshoe, Yeah,
not fun. It was fun, but it was fun once
it was over. Put it that way.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Yeah yeah, yeah, No, I get it. I get you.
But I've been good man. I'm here for a little bit. Actually,
go to New York to the Happy Gilmore Too premiere.
I was in it, so I saw it. Yes, it
was Did you see the movie? Yes, here's the thing
I haven't seen it yet, You haven't, No, No, I
haven't seen it yet. It's ridiculous, Yeah, of course, the
(04:07):
biggest like.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
It literally it made me want to have and I
know it's not going to happen, but these movies in
theaters again because I saw in the theater the crowd
was just going crazy for it, you know, yeah, ridiculous
and it was like, that's what I want. And I know,
possible to come back or not, but.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
Well, it feels like the movie experience is slowly coming back,
you know, but it's not there.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
We see all these big tent pole movies, you know,
these Marvel movies, and you know they're they're making some money,
but yeah, that experience, man, I hope hopefully it does.
Hopefully it does come back.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, they're all the they're all the big you know,
massive action yeah and stuff. But we just shot a
romantic comedy in Rome that I really I'm so excited
about it. You know. It's it's not that it's that
different or anything, but it just feels like it has
that old classic feel of a really really funny, real
(05:09):
good balance of of of all the you know, romance
and and and comedy and great people in it, and uh,
we're doing that in theaters, So I'm good.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Who'd you do that? Who did you do that with?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
I did it with? You know, it was all Italian
actors and Kim Coates, you know, Kim Coates from you know,
Sons of Anarchy, and Jonathan Roomy was another guy, and uh,
you know, we had Alison Hannigan and it was just
she's amazing. So it was it was just such a
(05:42):
fun experience. And again we're we're putting I'm a little
afraid to bring that to the theaters because it's it is,
you know, crazy the world. But I love it. We've
screened it and it's it seems so fit for that.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
And well it seems like the romantic comedies is sort
of coming back, you know what I mean. I hope Yeah,
I mean me too. Movies are just in a funny place.
But you had a cool one. So I watched the
trailer for Guns Up. It looks fun.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Yeah, it's a fun one. Yeahci is so bad ass
in that movie.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Man, dude, I know, because you're not used to seeing her.
I've known her like for a million years. You're nice
to seeing her in these kinds of roles and halfway
through the trailer she's fucking pulling out guns. Yes, you know,
and and you know, obviously it doesn't give it away
in the trailer, but there's something going on with her.
You know, she's obviously some sort of an operative, some kind.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
She's she's a bad ass, and it's it almost you know,
it's actually a surprise to me as well, but it is.
She she and she stepped up. She was so game
to play and everything we did with her, and she was.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Just she was awesome in it is What do you
like doing that kind of it's not drama necessarily, but
having a little more serious playing a hit man, you know,
is that Yeah?
Speaker 3 (06:56):
I mean it's it's it's got a fun you know,
when you do sitcom for so long and you're playing
the same type of characters and then you're doing the
movies and you get kind of locked into these you know,
there's a big kid, yeah, and it's the big goofy
guy of falls. That's always fun to do something a
little bit different, but again, like this is, you know,
it's a little bit different with the comedy and the action.
Like I do love working the action. Of course, as
(07:19):
I get older, it's getting so freaking hard. I wore
my bicep in this thing I do. Oh my god,
look at this thing. I literally, ah, dude, right through
the whole thing. And we didn't even start filming it.
This was right before we're doing you know, the choreography. Yeah,
get ripped. And I'm like, man, this is sixty this
is this is what's happening. Yeah, this stuff. So it's
(07:41):
like you got to keep yourself in shape. I gotta
try to do it. I don't. I don't even stretch.
And I go out to this stupid stuff.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Well that's because we're used to because you're an athlete,
right and and like yeah I was. I was always
athletic and we never had to stretch. I never had
to stretch. I could just go play basketball, go play hockey,
do whatever. Right now, as we get older, I was like,
oh jeez, this is.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Not even you were feeling it. Look at you, yeah,
and then look at me and then say, well you
know what. I'm like, Wow, it's like my body is
just like what are you doing? And it's like inside here,
I'm like trying to move on camera like you guys,
you know, and it's it's just getting harder and harder.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Yeah, dude, I had such a false sense of my
athletic ability. We were in Greece with the this summer
with the whole family, which was an amazing like right, mom,
Kurt Wyatt, like everyone, everybody last. But so the boys
wanted to race. You know, it's rider wilder body. Everyone
was racing. I was like, I'm gonna fucking I'm gonna race.
I'm gonna show them. I'm almost fifty. But I was
(08:40):
always pretty fast. It was humbling. I was so slow
that they're like, let's race again. I said, absolutely not.
I will never sprint ever in front of a human
in my life again. Yeah. Yeah, but I thought I
still had it.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
I've always loved, you know, being able to think like
I'm I'm pretty quick, man, Like I'm pretty fast. If
anybody steps, you know, I can go and I can show.
I saw footage of myself hitting mits, just hitting mits,
you know, focus. It looked like a seventy five year
old guy that was drunk at a barbecue just stepped up.
The balance was off everything like slow. I'm like, that's
(09:18):
not hitting, that's not landing on anybody getting out of
the way. So it was pretty humbling.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
I gotta say yeah, and I like, can we speed
up the film like two x?
Speaker 3 (09:30):
They're like, well, this is I mean, we we this
is not already They go, we already have we took
every break out that we could And you're like, oh no,
you know, yeah, it's it's tough. They already know the
tricks with me going in and it's like, oh.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Okay, yeah, yeah, did you find that? You know, because
you said before you do this sitcom forever, and we'll
go I'm gonna get back in your child just in
a little bit. But you do this sitcom forever and
it's amazing and it makes your career and you make
a ton of dough, but you're sort of stuck in
this world and then you get into the sort of
movies and you become type cast a little bit. Did
(10:03):
you have to make a conscious decision to say, you
know what, like I want to do something different now,
you know, I need to step outside of the stab
out of the box a little bit and make a
concerted effort to do shit. Yeah, I mean not the
same or do you even care?
Speaker 3 (10:19):
I didn't care as much as like it appeared like,
you know, I did a movie called Becky, which was
like during COVID it was just in drive ins and
stuff like that where I played this like white supremacist
guy that it's it's a crazy, you know, action movie too,
but it's it's it's a little bit can't it's a
campy movie. Uh, and you know it was It wasn't
(10:42):
like they asked me to do it and they said,
you know, we love it, and then I was like, yeah,
it was different. I wanted to do a good job
with it. But it's not like I'm out searching like
I have to play show the world that you know,
you know, I'm Christian bale Man. I can show you
I'm okay.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
You know.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
It's like it's it's story, not that I don't wants
and like it is fun to have a challenge where
you where you you're out doing something different. But yeah,
I was originally in that movie asked to be the
father and I was like, you know what, I don't
want to do that, like the father of the girl
that you know, and I said, when't play the bad guy.
So it's like just maybe something different.
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Yeah, And how much the stand up sort of come
back into your life? You know, you look at well,
you look at Sandler, right, the dude has done everything
you could possibly imagine. Yet he is still out on
the road doing his thing. You know, I mean are
you because you do you have a special, You have
a special just come out or it.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Came out of the last year. We have another one
that's coming out.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Another one that's coming out. That's right, Yes, because he
loves it.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
You know, we were talking about he's going back out
on the road again.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
And I just I'm it's it's something. It's how I started,
It's how he started. I mean, it's it's it's just
something that is I don't know, it's it's so different
than than movie making and any you know, TV or
any being in a series. It really is. You don't
have to answer to anybody. As far as we'll get
the script back, let's give we'll give you notes, and
(12:06):
we'll do the development and all that process. It's go
and it's you know, right stuff and edit it and
put it up that night and see if it works.
And and I don't think there's anybody better at it
than him as far as I mean making it an event.
You know, he makes it with the music he has
in it, in the comedy and the people show up.
I jumped up, you know, I don't know, a few
(12:28):
gigs with him. Yeah, yeah, it's insane, from the police
escort to the fans and the jerseys and you know
what I'm saying, It's like it's different than when I
do it. You know, he just made it so incredible
and yet it couldn't be you know, it couldn't be more.
You know, up his out. He just loves it.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I know it seems like it gets you just back
to your roots a little bit as well, right, I
mean for you, it's just kind of like I do
all these things and just to have a mic in
a stage in an audience simple.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
You know, he calls me. He'll call me and hey,
what do you think of this joke? I just wrote
this joke. I went up and he went up in
front of twelve people. Know, he's putting it up everywhere,
just trying to get up and get some reps in.
And you know, he just loves it. He loves it
so much. Yeah, you know, he doesn't have to do that.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
So what'd you grow up?
Speaker 3 (13:26):
You?
Speaker 2 (13:26):
And is it just you and Gary? No?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Me and Gary, my sister Leslie. We grew up on
Long Island, and that was the thing. It was. You know,
we were middle lower class, middle middle class for comedy.
It was always looking for that. Like I had a
decent upbringing. You know, I didn't have the crazy uncle.
(13:48):
I didn't have you know, it was like Little League
and McDonald's and slurpies and you know, it was just
everything kind of pretty normal, which was hard to write.
Stand up that I didn't have these crazy stories, this
edge and these angles that these other comedians did. I'm like, man,
I could talk about my dog, I could talk to
(14:08):
the exactly exactly. So. But it was a great upbringing.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
Man, did you grow up? What did your parents do?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Well? My dad was in insurance salesman. He sold insurance
and my mother pretty much took care of the home
and took care of us. She got a job for
a while as a like a secretary.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Was it a creative house though? In general? I mean,
were you was there a creative freedom or just it wasn't.
Speaker 3 (14:35):
It wasn't creative. It was just kind of more of
that like you know, Sundays having everybody the company over
and you know, like christ will always talk about performing
in front of his you know it was that it
was like we would get there and do impressions and
laugh and drinking, and I remember my parents it's like
smoking in the house, the parents, friends and everybody and
these wild parties and me and my brother would kind
(14:57):
of get up and do like impressions and things like
that that and just kind of goof around, but never
really you know, I definitely wasn't a comedian that thought like,
hey man, when you know, at eight year old, eight
years old and I want to be on the Tonight
Show and I want to you know, become a stand up.
I didn't. I didn't have those I.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Just he was an entertainer for your family, meaningly, like
making people laugh and exactly.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
It was dinner table stuff like yeah, half all time,
and then the same thing at school.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:22):
I was never like a class clown. But it was like,
you know, I was just having fun with my boys
and that was it.
Speaker 2 (15:28):
Did you ever? But was there a moment when you're like, oh,
wait a minute, like I think this is what I
want to do and then and then like a lead
up to that is sort of was there anything that
you wanted to do prior meaning I wanted to be
a cop, I wanted to be this, not I.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
Wanted to be the stand up came to me because
a lack of anything else I could do. I look
at the college I was. I wanted to be an athlete.
I want to be like I wanted to play football.
I was running back in high school. I never went
to class, so I didn't have the grades. Like I didn't.
I could never get into a great college. Not because
I didn't have I wasn't smart enough. It was just
(16:02):
more that I just never applied myself, like I never
went to class. And yeah, I had to go to
a you know, I was getting these you know, scholarship
offers to these colleges that I couldn't They wouldn't accept
me because of so my SATs. I cheated on my
SSATS and still only got a nine p fifty. Copied
off the guy. I copied off the guy next to me,
(16:24):
I remember, and copying in sections, not knowing that they
changed the sections on each Yeah, didn't match up.
Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, by the way, I got your B Dude, I
got a seven sixty on my ESSAYT and I didn't cheat. No,
you went straight in, oh, dude, I mean I didn't.
I was a horrible student. I got expelled from high
school from the same your cheating situation. I cheated. I
had the right answers on the wrong test because she
loved it. I put two tests out different ones. I
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didn't even care to look at the question.
Speaker 3 (16:55):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
So, yeah, I can feel you there with that's hilarious.
Speaker 3 (16:58):
So that that made me end up at Courtland State Sunny,
you know, State University of New York Division III football,
where it was like it and when you this is
you know, when you start to realize even the athletes
there were like the running backs were just so good
men and this division three. So it's like, when you
(17:18):
can't cut it at division three, your hopes are becoming
a professional, you gotta you gotta cut bait here. You
gotta look for something. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:27):
Yeah, So I didn't.
Speaker 3 (17:28):
Finish college, and I went home and I was bouncing
at the time in a couple of clubs on Long Island,
and my brother joined this like improv group they started
and they started doing stand up and that's I started
doing like, uh, community theater and just said, let me
try this now.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Oh cool.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
I failed at everything else, And so Gary was the.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
One who kind of led you into it a little bit, right.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Yeah, Gary started before I did. He had a group
of guys and you know, uh, he was doing it,
and I'm sure he was pissed off. When I was like,
I want to do this.
Speaker 2 (17:59):
Too, He's like, yeah, you know, but.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
I came in and thankful enough, he was pretty cool
to me, and he was like, you know, you got
to do this. And I remember him saying, like when
I started stand up, he was like, you really need to,
you know, go Every night he was are you doing
stand up? He came home, I was home living at
my parents' house and he's like, are you doing stand
up tonight? And I said, I'm not. I booked And
at the time then you would sign up for like
(18:22):
open mic nights and it would be like once every
like three weeks, you get your name on a list.
It was so crazy because it was everybody trying to
do it. It was really hot stand up. Yeah, And I said,
I'm not working for like three weeks, so like I'm
not going to work tonight, and he's like, you're an idiot.
He goes, if you want to do stand up, you
got to be at the clubs every night and just
try to get on and you know, he says, you
don't know what will happen, and he was right because
(18:44):
I went down to the club that night. I didn't
have a spot, but I hung out and I ended
up meeting who turned out to like be my first agent.
So then, you know, it was like smart to kind
of go out there and just watch other comedians, watch
people how they did it.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And yeah, what was your material like in the beginning,
you know it was? It was it. When you're looking
back on it, we were like, oh man, that.
Speaker 3 (19:03):
Was parent Yes, yes, it was just it was terrible.
It would get me back like my first time, thank god,
and I didn't. I was I was very like I
didn't want to stack the audience with like most comedians
would bring all their family and friends. Yeah, you wouldn't
get a true reading of how you would do. Yeah,
I wouldn't do that, I said, first stand up. I
(19:24):
remember it was July twenty sixth, nineteen eighty nine, at
the east Side Comedy Club on Long Island. I drank
I think like four course lights in the in the
parking lot before, and I just went in there. I
would not have my family come in and watch, and
I just went in there we recorded it on whatever
it was, this crappy little camera and I did great.
(19:47):
I did like, it went really well and it was,
you know, it's like an out of a body experience,
really and I was so happy about it. And we
listened to it and this and that, and I thought,
this is going to be easy. Stand up is easy.
When I got invited like two nights later to come back,
and I did the same set. And when I tell
you that, I ate it so bad, like like, I mean,
(20:09):
every joke and once you're off a little bit and
you're nervous, you don't know how that's it. Yeah, timing
everything couldn't go. And you know the audience is they're
like a dog in any sense that. Yeah, yes, And
I was so done. I couldn't. I couldn't get back
on track. I couldn't think what I was saying. So nervous,
I could just literally I was hearing the lights, the
(20:29):
humm the lights. It was so quiet. I ate it
so bad. And I'm just grateful that I didn't quit
after that one, because that was one that I should
have I should have given it up. Most people would
have quit.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
Yeah, well I guess you got you gotta eat it.
I mean, that's just part of the It's.
Speaker 3 (20:45):
Important, and it's important, and I ate it for a while,
Like I I would have good shows. Thank god, I
had good shows in between. Keep me going. It's like golf, man,
you know, yeah, good golf shot, it brings you back.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
No, it's so true. Golf is that completely that sport.
And for some reason, it always happens on eighteen. You know,
it's like you're playing horribly and then on eighteen like
I'm done. I'm done with this sport. I've played it
all my life and I am done, and then you
have an amazing whole exactly, it's still there, ye still there.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
The way it really stand up?
Speaker 2 (21:21):
No, you know, it's funny because I love to tell stories.
I don't write jokes. I did a show with Bobby
Lee for two years, and he's because we were just joker.
It's like, dude, you got to do stand up. You
gotta do five minutes. I get you five minutes and like,
no way, man, Like it's too scary, so scary to me.
I wouldn't know what to do.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
I am easy for you. Are you kidding?
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Just tell tell some stories, but I don't know what
the hell you go up and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
You do it. You act like you're bringing someone else up,
you're bringing them just tell one story, right, and then
you just expanded.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
A little Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:56):
You're feeling man, it's like.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
It looks it does like it says, looks fulfilling, you know,
and the eating part you just have to take. And
I guess there's something beautiful about that as well. There
really is, because you're in a club. Everyone has eaten it.
So it's not like, you know, it's like there's a
commiseration where it's like this one time, yes, you know,
(22:19):
maybe I will.
Speaker 4 (22:19):
I don't know, we'll see see a good bucket listing.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
So did you and Gary? Are you and your siblings
get along well growing up? You know? Or was there
was there infighting? What was the vibe?
Speaker 3 (22:31):
We were Okay, the vibe was kind of normal. It
wasn't like we were We weren't buddy buddy though older
than me and my sister's two years younger. It's kind
of like, you know, we fought a lot in the house,
you know, like like any kids around, you know, grab
my stuff that's mine? Is that? But uh, didn't you
know we weren't buddy buddy either. I remember I got
(22:51):
good at sports because I played with like Gary's friends.
I would play tackle football in the street, like he's
crazy where I didn't have my friend to do it.
So these guys are three years older and I'm running
the ball with them and they're throwing me down, you know.
So it's like I toughened up a lot with them,
which was good.
Speaker 2 (23:09):
Was it competitive with you and Gary, especially him being
your older Yeah, you know, brother, where all of a
sudden you're coming up and bang bang bang.
Speaker 3 (23:17):
I gotta say he there wasn't. I'm sure there were
times where it's like, you know, I always brought him on,
you know, and I always hated it because I didn't
want to give him like a spot on the show,
because you know, I didn't want him to think like
you know, or anybody think like I'm just doing it
because he's my brother.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, I think it was funny and I love money. Yeah,
I played a ton of golf with Gary.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 3 (23:37):
How do I do this without doing it? But there
can't not be I'm sure, you know, I don't know.
There's times where it's like, you know, he's like, yeah,
I remember this when I came out with Ray. When
Ray had his show, I remember I had just got
The King of Queens and I would follow Ray on
the red carpet, like I learned everything from Ray on
(23:58):
how to do a sitcom. Like I watched because I knew,
you know, we've been friends, you know in the standard yeah,
you know, for so much. And then the fact that
he got a show, I was like, first of all,
I couldn't believe it because he's such a low, you know,
energy guy, and like totally it was a different like
what guys were to me, like the big wacky you know,
like you know, he's got I'm like this, this is death.
(24:22):
It's not gonna happen. And then it did, and he
was so good on his sitcom and the way he
threw things away, I was like, I have to watch him,
you know, and learn from him because I'm gonna be
too big on camera. And and by the way, still
like even in the King of Queens, when I see
episodes now I'm like throw away, I'm like, I wish
(24:46):
I could go back and do it. But like the
first few years of with you know, going with Ray,
you know, even when our shows came out, we go
to the CBS like functions and things like that, and
red carpet things was so rough off because they knew
him and my show had just come out, so they're
taking like, you know, it's like the Red Ye taking
(25:06):
a thousand pictures of Ray kind of standing there and
nothing's clicking.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
There's no no flashes, nothing. Man, maybe maybe are disposable,
some dis I'm trying to.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
Get closer to him, and they're like, I just don't
one to ray by him. It was tough. So, I mean,
I'm sure Gary feels that sometimes, but he's he's so
funny on his own and it's like, I just want
him to find his own lane. And it's hard.
Speaker 2 (25:30):
It's hard, of course, Yeah, dude. I mean, look, you know,
we've had so many siblings on yeah, and we've had
a lot of celebrity siblings and they're you know, and
their brothers or sisters right right, and some of them
are not even in the business, so the question is moot,
but a lot of them are, you know, And I
always ask the question, is there jealousy? Is there envy?
(25:51):
And they all say, oh no, we support each other,
and I'm like, bullshit, because we all have that and
I I admit the I have envy of my sister,
and there's some jealousy there. Others fucking crushing right now.
I'm like, eh, you know, not to say that I
don't support them or love them or want them to
be amazing, but there is that feeling. The only person
was Chad Low. We had Rob Low and Chad, and
Chad's like, are you kidding me? Is that a real question?
(26:14):
Of course? Look at my brother, look at this, look
at how hot, look at his career.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, you know, yeah, But honestly, he has been the
supportive part, which I'm always whether he's biting his tongue
and hating you know, there might be some of that.
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (26:28):
He's funny as hell too, yeah.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
And he's honestly, I have to say, I don't think
like if I would have found stand up first, I
don't think I would have taken him on my little
brother and brought him to the clubs and showed him
all the things, right, you know, like find your own thing, man,
I did.
Speaker 2 (26:55):
So, how did King of Queen's come about? Were you?
How did that? How did you get to because I
know you, I know you had a deal there, right.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Yeah, I had. It was through stand up. I got
a deal, and I got it. I got booked at
the Montreal Comedy Festival, like nineteen ninety six or five,
five or six somewhere around then. And back then, stand
up is so hot that like all all the you know,
anybody who was in TV and you know, all the
(27:22):
executives and from Hollywood would come out go to Montreal.
And I was, you know, been friends with Rogan forever.
We've started with the same manager, and we would always
go out and do the Montreal Comedy Festival together and
get spots. And this is this one year that I
was up there and he was kind of with me
and just it. He was he was the one telling me,
(27:44):
just get out of your shell you're at you know,
because I was like every other stand up and still
and to something were you know, it's the kind of
you know, the sleeves rolled up and the jacket, what's
going on here? You know, the questions and he's like, dude,
you're not like that. Man. He's like, I want you
to just snap go out there, yeah, don't be And
I really learned from him that, you know, instead of
like serving the whole audience, you know what you have
(28:06):
on the platinum do you want to take? Just he
would just do what he cared about and if the
audience that would have this you know feeling of like
if if I don't know what he's doing, it was
not funny. Everybody else thinks it's funny. Like it was
just he had such confidence that it was like that
was it really powered through and like I didn't have
it like I was. I would get nervous and try to,
(28:28):
you know, raise the volume or whatever. It's like I
was that confidence and he kind of helped me with
that a lot. And I had a really good set Montreal,
a couple of good sets, and we did well enough
that I got a I got a development deal at.
Speaker 2 (28:43):
NBC's that's that's that's like pretty amazing.
Speaker 3 (28:46):
It was awesome. It was yeah, the fact that they
were interested and while I was in Montreal, this is
again this is when people it was like the wild.
It was so crazy because deals were happening and they
were giving them like and it's like, wow, we could
hit a big While I was in Montreal, they called
me to audition for SNL and I was so excited
about that. I flew back and I didn't know. I
(29:10):
thought they were gonna just like kind of give it
to me.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
They liked me, Yeah, like I got it.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Yeah, like they saw my stand up. I didn't know
why I go, Why am I flying back if they're
gonna get it? Because I love it. I would love
to have done it, but I had to audition and uh,
they said, just do some of your characters. And I
had no characters. I had stand up. That's what I did.
So when I tell you I did, I remember Marcy
Klein was there. I did stand up in a in
a in a room with nobody. It was just a
(29:39):
microphone and myself. The cameras were going. I didn't see anything.
And again I ate it. I can't so bad and
had no idea, no characters, nothing, no reaction, nobody laughing
at any of my bits. And obviously I didn't get it,
(29:59):
which was the best thing for ye Ever, Yeah, I
couldn't do you know anything else?
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Yeah? Yeah? And so then so then you got this
deal and was it was your concept or did they
bring you this concept.
Speaker 3 (30:14):
Michael Whitehorn, who was the writer the creator of the show,
had the concept of like he wanted to do like
a classic honeymooner it's like an updated version of the Honeymoon.
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (30:25):
Yeah, And he had seen a stand up tape of
mine and we met with him and then we started,
you know, working on it together. But it was his idea.
Initially we went to NBC, and NBC had shows like
Friends at that time, they were doing the office cubicle comedy.
(30:45):
They didn't want this one. They felt this one was
kind of like it was like kind of stupid, and
they didn't they didn't like they wanted me. They didn't
want me as a truck driver. They literally said that.
They said, does he have to be a truck driver?
Like the packages? Can he be? You know? And then
it was like, well that's what this guy is, you know.
It's they said, well at least can he They literally said,
can he be like go downstairs in the basement and
like play chess with somebody like in London on the internet?
(31:08):
Is when the Internet was coming through. They're like, well,
that's not this guy and they're like, well, if he's
not that guy, I guess then he might not be
a for us or And that's when we said, all right,
we're done with it. And then thank God's CBS called
and we did it there. They gave me because of
Ray's I think because of Ray being there and they
knew you know, I knew Ray, And I was able
(31:29):
to write an episode about golf yeah and be on
that and I think that gave him a little confidence
that we could do.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
Yeah. And then the casting process. Were you heavily involved
in that as well? Yes, because that's it. I mean,
you guys had such stupid chemistry, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (31:48):
She was what I wanted her right from the beginning.
Leoh you did did yeah? Oh without I said we
have to get her. I just you know, we just
finally made it work. It just you know, she was
able to do it. She came in, she said she
didn't want to do a sitcom. Uh but she uh,
she she agreed to a meeting and she came in
and we just hit it.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
She was like she was just so yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
And then then once, you know, once the success happened,
was it just kind of like, oh my god, I
cannot believe that this is where it is or did
you always have that belief that now someday I'm going
to be here?
Speaker 3 (32:25):
You know, No, I definitely didn't have that. You didn't
have it it was like I thought, like, you know,
the good things are happening, you know, I feel like
I'm meant to do all this stuff. I didn't expect
to be there. And even when I was there, when
we first, you know, first couple of years of having
a show, you're you're always looking over your shoulder.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah, of course that now you think you.
Speaker 3 (32:47):
Were this, you know this is gonna happen. I know,
where do I go? I'm sorry?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, Now we had that with rules of engagement.
It was always like with Spade, and I was always
kind of I don't know, like are we yeah, this happening,
no idea, you don't know.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
What it's gonna end, right, Like yeah, Chierco's all right,
we got picked up or we'd get like picked up
for like half Yes, it's kind of exactly slap in
the face.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
It's like, yeah, I love you that much, right exactly exactly.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (33:18):
But you know, as you progressed, how many seasons did
you do with the show?
Speaker 3 (33:23):
We did nine?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean it's still in syndication right after all these.
Speaker 3 (33:27):
By the way, it's doing better now than it did
when we came out again. It was friends, it was Raymond.
It was all these other shows that we weren't, like
top ten, we weren't you know, we were doing well.
It was after you know, we followed Cosby for a
little bit and we got a good lead in and
then Raymond came on, so we were in that little
basketball hammock and it helped us. But we were never
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you know, Boom the President. They never talked about us.
But the better you know, we did much better in
syndication then we like, now I'm hearing more about it
than ever.
Speaker 2 (33:59):
Clark, someone who knows the Ken Queens would come on
Netflix and all of a sudden have a billion view resurgence.
Speaker 3 (34:05):
So it's right, right right, it's it's yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2 (34:09):
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Would you ever do
another stick coomedy? Think? Or are you done with that?
Speaker 3 (34:13):
It's not that I would, I guess I would. I
mean do anything, I really. It's it's just different, you know,
you know, it's just a different kind of But I
loved it. I loved it.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Well. The schedule too, is so great, you know, you know,
and you got your family and you know, it's just
so it's always so nice to sort of be here.
Speaker 3 (34:33):
Yeah, you know, it was really cool and uh like
I did one after that called Kevin Can Wait and
it ate it after like two years. It was a
fun one. But it was by my house on Long Island.
It had all my buddies were in it. You know,
it's like it was like a group of people and
you know, it just felt like this is so much fun. Man.
We were hanging out Friday nights. We just you know,
(34:56):
shoot the show and then stay around and but yeah,
you know it's it's a fun atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
It is if something cool comes along the Yeah, yeah,
I would definitely look at you consider would you would you?
Speaker 3 (35:08):
I mean, what do you think?
Speaker 2 (35:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah I would. I would again if I
think there needs to be resurgence of the sitcoming. I
want to get back to the Rays or even your
show or Cheers, where you have incredible actors, incredible writers, playwrights.
People were on Broadway, you know, moving the camera inside
a little bit to have some coverage, to do a
sitcom that actually feels like something, you know what I mean.
(35:32):
I think it would be so great if a network
would take a chance on something like that rather than
going for sort of the big canned laugh stuff exactly.
That makes it smart again, how fucking smart and amazing
was cheers? It was great and characters there were dead depth,
you know, so yes, I mean I would love to
(35:53):
do some sick like that, you know, and if I
could stay in La of course it's the rest.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
You know.
Speaker 2 (36:00):
This was great, man, it's really fun talking to you.
Speaker 3 (36:03):
I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
And when does when? When does guns Up come out?
Speaker 3 (36:06):
It comes out Friday? Friday?
Speaker 2 (36:08):
And where where can we watch it?
Speaker 3 (36:09):
I think it's I don't know theaters. Everywhere where's it?
I even know theaters and.
Speaker 2 (36:13):
Streaming theaters and streaming, and then when who cares? Just
go watch it? Go find it? And then what about
what about the special? When is when's that specials coming along?
Speaker 3 (36:23):
We're doing it now?
Speaker 2 (36:23):
I don't know the drop of it.
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Okay, yeah, cool.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Well, it's good to talk to you, keV. Good to
see hopefully get to see him person to man. Alright,
alrybody later.
Speaker 3 (36:35):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
He's the best, such a cool guy. I haven't seen
him in forever. He looks great, even with that bicep. Man,
when he pulled his biceps out, I think I put
a teacher that biceped. No, it's bicep and he and
he had torn it. He was still like yoked. You
don't want to get into a scuffle with him. He
(36:56):
will destroy you. He's so strong and so fast and nimble.
He will destroy you. So all, for all those who
are listening right now, do not pick a fight with
Kevin James. You will get destroyed anyway. That was awesome.
I love that guy and I'm out. Priest to the Gods.
(37:17):
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Speaker 3 (37:20):
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