December 15, 2025 • 47 mins
Ella Anderson and King Princess play Kate’s daughters in the film "Song Sung Blue," so it’s no surprise they feel - and sound - just like family. Here, they meet Uncle Ollie for the first time and take us all inside the journey to get this movie made.
Find out how Ella almost sabotaged her way out of the audition, why KP says she knew she’d click with Kate right away, and what they say Hugh Jackman brought to set every single day!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi, I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling raivalry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good. So last night I went to Desky Trucks
are in town.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Their band they're this Dark Trucks is amazing, one of
the great guitar players of all time, and Susan Tdsky
is his wife, who's a great like blue singer guitar player,
and they have this great band and it's very joyous
and it's this amazing like it's like a musical experience.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
They always have like fourteen people on the stage. It's
so much fun.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
They're in town doing like the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame, and turns out they were supposed to do
it with.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This guy Joe Clarity there, but he.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Got sick, and so now they asked Chris to sing,
and so Chris is going to sing at the Hollywood
at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, my ex husband,
And then they asked me to come sing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
A Neil Diamond song.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
They played this like really fun, small gig that they
never do stuff like that at this place called the
Peppermint Lounge in La And it was so much fun
and we sang forever in blue jeans. And then it
was crazy because it was like, you know, I've known
Derek Trucks since he was twenty years old and I
(01:51):
was twenty were the same age, and we were babies
in like this crazy weird rock and.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Rolls the world almost famous stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So when I was Chris, when I met Chris, Derek
was a young like sort of prodigy guitar player, and
then he ended up in the Ahman Brothers and so,
and then he had a band called Derek Trucks Band,
and then and then he met his wife and they
have a band. But I had this whole thing, and
I seeing him was like it was like bringing back
for both of us. I think, bringing back so many memories.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And then I look on.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
The stage and his like Tech, his guitar Tech used
to work with the Crows, and I was like Frank,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Just there's something about the music world.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
It's really really small, right, Well, yeah, Danny goes, but
Danny comes and Danny's back there and it's like he
runs into two old friends from his world and music,
and you know, it was just one of those great nights.
And it's something that music is that when you live
or have experienced the road, whether you're a wife of someone,
(02:55):
a girlfriend of someone, or you just have live in
that experience. M there's just there's literally nothing like it.
There's literally it's it's like one of the great like
happy places.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's just you know.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Anyway, Okay, so allie real quick before they come on. Yes,
I'm very excited about this. We're interviewing my daughters from
the movie Song Sung Blue. So Ella Anderson plays my
daughter in this film. Yep, she is I'm gonna say this,
we'll say this surge up. But she's absolutely wonderful and
(03:33):
brilliant in this film and is going to have such
an incredible career.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
KP.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
King Princess is known as a musician. She is one
of my favorite musicians out there. She's fucking, amazing, awesome.
She plays Hugh's daughter and is also just fantastic. So
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So hi, Hi.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Ladies, guys, meet my brother Aarve. I don't think you've
met Alie.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I met Ella I didn't meet I didn't meet KP. Hey, Allie, Hi,
how are you?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ali?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
KP's on the road, are you She's on a bus
with like thirteen people right now.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Well, actually I'm in the Soho house currently, but I
will go fancy.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
She decided to throw down and see my limit.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I hit my wife. My wife and I were watching
SNLA and KP came on. This was a while ago
and we were just I was like, who is this?
I mean it was incredible. I think you were wearing
like a tutu.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
It was a kilt.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
It was a feminine kilt.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay. Was it frilly? Maybe not?
Speaker 7 (04:44):
It was pants with a kilt attached.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love that Ollie remembers what you were wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Because it was It was that good. She was that good.
It was that good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I mean it was because I hadn't heard of you
and Aaron and I my wife had boom.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was like, who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And then Aaron became obsessed.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes she did in my wife because.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
When I was working with you, Aaron, his wife was.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Like, oh my god, I'm obsessed to get Aaron to
a show.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
One hundred percent she's in the other room right now, like,
you gotta tell her about s L and how we
feel about her.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I'm like, babe, I get to it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But by the way, Ella, let's not leave you out, Okay,
because Henry Danger is You don't understand how huge this
has been in my family. I have eighteen fifteen and
a twelve year old girl, two boys, so when my
boys were younger Henry Danger. My daughter just finished an
entire marathon of watching every single episode of Henry Danger.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, that is some commitment.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, I know, that's so cute.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, Henry Danger was the show.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
No, I was. I was on the show for a
million years and it was Nicolo. You know it was.
It was wild. It was the time the longest running.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Live action It's crazy we saw that. You guys like
grow up.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
The marathon is that much more impressive because there's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So many episodes, I know, unbelievable. Again, my wife is like,
make sure you tell her that, like we love Henry Danger.
I'm like, okay, babe, I got it.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Well.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Before we get into.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
All of the fun stuffs of like the movie and
everything let's just like a break down a little bit,
like you know, Ella, We'll start with you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Where where were.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You born and raised? I mean, I know all the
answers to that, pet.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, of course I was born and raised in two
different places. So I was born like twenty five minutes
outside of Detroit. I always put it that way. It
depends on the traffic. It can be more with traffic.
But no one knows where Ipsilanichi is. It's really adorable, though,
if you have the chance to go, you might not
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have much to do, but there are some sweet people.
And then I moved to la when with my whole family.
We all relocated when I was like six, So my
formative years were all around the city and moving a
ton And.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, why did you guys move to la.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I mean it was it was all the stars were aligning.
Like my dad ended up getting a job that the
company was based in Anaheim at the time, and I
started working when I was really young. I didn't realize
how young that I was, which I think in part
(07:46):
was because I had two older brothers and I kind
of thought that I was them and in the same
chapter of my life as they were. But I also
just yeah, once I found film, I just knew that
(08:08):
it was what I wanted to do, so I was
able to work as well. And then my brothers really
liked the weather. They're super outdoorsy, active, so they like
the fact that they could jump off of buildings and
du parkour.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And there's three of you, yeah, three total, And what
are the age differences?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Okay, so I have two older brothers, but they're identical twins. Okay,
four years and one of them is technically a minute older,
but I think he acts the youngest in a good way.
He's really he inspires me to be a little more free.
(08:50):
And I'm the baby. I'm the baby girl, only girl.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I remember your mom saying to me on set, Ella
takes She's like, I just just buy it, just get it,
just get this, because Ella takes forever to like if
she likes something, she like if it's a coat, she's like, oh,
I don't know, She'll wait like a year to get
a coat.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Her Mom's like, just buy that out.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I'm a wonder.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
That's the worst. You know, even on set, you find
yourself in conversations and then like three days later or
a week later, I'll think, ah, if I had been
able to think a little bit deeper on that or
just let it ruminate. Then I would have maybe it
said something, not said something. But my perspective is a
(09:39):
little bit different on that now. So Yeah, across my life,
I like to think before I buy something, I need
to make sure that I've known that I want it
for like a year.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I wish I had that problem.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Tell me about it, though, because.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
It's always in the back of your mind and you're
always like, h if I had that thing that I've
been knowing that I need for like four months, then
I would be complete. But I just I deprived myself.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Oh so I have my Basically, my West Coast daughter
is really which you're the West Coast hunter and now JP,
you're my East Coast step daughter. So where were you
born and raised?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
I was born in New York in Manhattan. I was
raised in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. I spent eighteen years in Williamsburg
and then seven in LA from like I guess, yeah,
(10:43):
seventeen to twenty four or five, I was in LA.
And yeah, but I'm back in New York.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Were you in LA on your own? Did you move
out to LA?
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I moved out so I got into USC when I
graduated high school, and I went and did a year
at USC at seventeen, and then I signed my record
deal and like my first lease, and I moved at seventeen.
(11:17):
I moved into my own apartment, so I didn't even
I wasn't even eighteen, and then I was just in
LA from from then on as a young adult as
a teenager.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Really wow, you were seventeen living in Los Angeles like
basically underage.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I was underage. I had to Yeah, they didn't look at.
I didn't have any credit, so they didn't look at.
I had like kind of a sus landlord. It was
cool though. It was cool. I lived in like a
like one of those like Melrose Place.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Styles Yeah yeah, yeah, like courtyard.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
And it was kind of like if you could make
a show about that apartment.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Where where was were you in Hollywood's.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
West Hollywood on North Laurel and Sunset.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, I know exactly, yeah, up the street from Green Blats.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, exactly where that is.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, And it was it was pretty cool. I mean
it was nice because like you could kind of give
your keys to anybody, you know, like and they would
all everybody kind of took care of each other. But
they also there was so much fighting, so there was
always drama. It was it was fun to it was
fun to watch the drama too.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I feel like I feel like when I think about
both of you. Well, also, you grew up in music,
Mikayla Kp. I call you MICHAELA, but uh you you
grew up in music. Your dad is an engineer, and
so what was like your kind of youth experience, like
(12:50):
in connection to music? Was it constant?
Speaker 8 (12:53):
So my dad's.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
House in Williamsburg was like a factory building and the
apartment shared all with the studio, and it wasn't soundproof,
so it was just constant, like if they were tracking
drums or guitar, it was just it was just constant noise,
which I don't even think I registered. Like I remember
moving to la and not being able to sleep because
(13:14):
it was so quiet. And yeah, I mean you just
couldn't keep me out of the studio, Like I was
just home from school, backpack homework, set up in the studio,
pretending to do homework, really just listening to everybody recording.
You literally could not get me out of the studio. So,
(13:37):
I mean, I think it was just an obsession like
from I think it was innate.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And what was your first instrument that you started playing.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
My first instrument was drums because my dad's a drummer,
and I think, you know, being like an angry little lesbian,
I wanted to smash.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I wanted to smash stuff.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
I was drums.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You still want to smash stuff.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And then I think I think I was probably like
fuck this because my dad did it. And then I
moved to piano and guitar because I wanted to start
comping for myself singing like I wanted to. I wanted
to write and I wanted to sing songs. So I
started with the more melodic instruments to to basically play
(14:28):
for myself.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Which so interesting about both of you guys, because Ella,
people don't really know this, but you're a very good singer,
beautiful singer, amazing singer. But you have a musician who
started as a musician. That's the world that you know
who really wants to act and it loves getting into
that art form. And then Ella, you starting out acting,
(15:00):
is music going to be the next thing that you
kind of venture into.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That's such a good question. I feel like, yeah, I
my parents are musicians also, which wasn't even something that
I thought about when we were filming songs on Blue.
But I think there are certain things that in a
way I understood about growing up with parents who have
(15:26):
this like really artistic way of expressing themselves. And sometimes
it's you know, my parents aren't aren't like accountants, they
don't they're creatives. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of the
That was the first thing that I ever knew, and
music was like the pillar for everything, and film was
(15:47):
the thing that brought us together for leisure, which I
fell in love with. But they're they're really yeah, they're
different parts of myself. I don't know. I only do
things when they feel organic, So you know, I consider
myself sort of a singer, but a songwriter. And that
only happened because my brother's studio was in the room
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next to mine, and there was a time where he
was producing something that I got ideas for and I
went into his bedroom and sat on the floor on
his carpet and started writing to it, and then I
started laying down vocals, Like It's just I do things
when I feel drawn towards them. So in this very moment,
I'm I'm really focused on film and finding like the
(16:34):
next thing I want to be a part of. And
who knows when when making more music will call back
to me.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's part of why do you feel like?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know, I think Craig so Craig is our writer
and director, Like he's such an interesting because he I
always say Craig has music in him, you know, Like
I feel like the reason why this movie turned out
so great is because he really understood music.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
He lives it, he loves it.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
He's like Memphis, Tennessee, obstats with musicians, Like that's his
world that he sort of exists in Memphis more musical
than film.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But everyone in.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
This movie has a real, like not only profound connection
to music, but like a longing to express themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Through through it, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And when he casts you, like, do you think that
like he understood you guys as artists because he understood
your musicality.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Because that's how I see.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Him, I would say, on my I don't know, Yeah,
what's your experience. I mean, I'm curious what your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Are on all I can.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
I mean, what was so great about this role for
me is I had nothing to do with the music.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Like that was so lovely. Like I was like, thank god,
I am not the one singing.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I'm like, I'm like, let Kate belt to out, girl,
let her have her moment, honey.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
I was like fought that, which was awesome. But what
was kind of healing for.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Me about it was it's about growing, you know, It's
about a family that is that is kind of subservient
to music, right, Like the kids are like, we're you know,
you don't choose where you're born into and were our
family was, you know, we're children of working class musicians,
which I relate to. And I felt like going through
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the audition process with Craig and whoever else was in
that room, it felt like those conversations were being had,
Like I was asked about my experience, and I think
they saw that I related to being the daughter of
a musician who didn't really have a glamorous career, you know,
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like my dad doesn't have a glamorous career.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
My dad's a recording engineer, you know.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
I described it as like, you know, you've got the
people who design the audi's and then you have the
actual mechanics who build them, and like that's the engineers.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
The person in the garage you.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Know, and in a lot of ways, this family, Mike
and Claire are they're the mechanics, you know, they're the
ones who are like bringing joy to the lay person
at the there, you know, not at the stadium, not
with the screaming fans for the majority of the movie.
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And so I thought that that was really it was
just it was just really nice to have that part
of myself seen by Craig and also just within the
story itself.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I guess if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What was the audition process?
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Like, yeah, I did like.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Two auditions, and I was just like they were like, wow,
you're really good at playing the daughter of an alcoholic
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I was like I got this one in the bag. Guy, Hello,
what was yours?
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Like, I feel like that's more interesting. You have way
more scenes than me. I feel like you probably had
a way more extensive Isn't that funny you would think?
But it was really like a whirlwind.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I sent. So here's the best. And I don't think
i've I haven't told very many people of this, but uh,
I just got a regular audition. I got a self tape,
but man, I went in to tape it and I
literally was like, there's no way I'm getting this. This
is a waste of my fucking time.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh way, But where did that come from? Meaning like
it's just too big of a role. There's no way
I'm worthy.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I'm a very ambitious person. I love a challenge. I
don't think that it was the material itself. I think
it was just I was like, I saw I saw
on the email it said Craig was directing it, and
I saw you know, Kate and you were a part
of it. Those are the only names that were attached
on my email. I saw who was casting it. I
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deeply admire it was just like it's such a long
shot and there are times where you sent certain things
into the abyss, and I was like, there's just no way.
And so I was trying to tape it. And I'm
a perfectionist and I'm not exaggerating, and I don't think
I've really told this to anyone, but I was like,
(21:28):
I'm deleting all of my takes. I deleted off of
the camera.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Wow. I left.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I went home and I woke up the next morning
and I was like, oh, I'm probably not gonna get it,
but I just I have a really specific take on
this person and I don't even care. I want to
go back. And so I did it again and I
sent it in and I didn't hear anything for a
(21:53):
few weeks and I was like, well, that didn't happen.
And then out of nowhere, I was planning my first
trip to Europe, first trip alone, first trip I'd ever planned,
and I got an email or text or something like
that and it was like, you have a zoom to
meet with Craig to as like a callback. I was like,
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oh my gosh. First off, I didn't expect that, but
also I'm supposed to be on a flight yep, so
that's not good. I might not be able to do it.
And fortunately they were amazing and they worked around me.
I had my suitcase in my car and I went
on the zoom right before I had to head to Lax.
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Did the zoom.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Then I go.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I go to Italy and to Ireland. I'm there. I
guess my team was trying to get in touch with me.
For days. I was like watching sheep in the like
a castle. And I finally picked up the phone at
two am. My time must have been something normal LA time,
and they were like, dude, once you get back home,
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you need to go to New Jersey for a screen test.
And it was wild. It was a really wild process.
But it felt really quick because I just didn't even
think it was feasible to be.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So the screen test was still part of the audition
or had you gotten the gig? And then it was like,
we're just going to do a screen test.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I think I was signing. I think I was signing everything.
I think I had got it.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You meant what you mean when we were all in
Jersey taking pic doing and doing our first things.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, we had it by then.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, you're not kissed.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I was cassed.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
But that was an audition.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I would that an audition. That was actually that was
the camera test.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Oh yeah, No, it wasn't a screen test, it was
it was a camera test.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I have a fear of being fired at any point.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
As a question though, like when something like this happens
and it's such an amazing moment, is there is there
fear that kicked saying like holy shit, I got it
now I have to fucking do it?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Or are you is it just pure elation?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Oh yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Or is it like, oh my god, I got this gig?
And like, of course I want it, but oh shit,
like this is my this is.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
My second time doing this, so yeah, there's a little
bit of fear still involved.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I am truly under prepared.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Cap At one point, we're doing a scene in in
the car and like she's like vaping in the car.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm like, kp, you can't. It was so.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I was like, listen, I know this is still sort
of a rock and roll kind of experience. I'm like,
you can't vape in the car.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
I get away with a lot, I think because I'm
a musician. I think I get away with a lot.
They really give me quite a lot of leeway.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Oh so funny. I was like, oh, she's definitely her
second movie.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Yeah, I'm definitely. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I feel like I'm a little bit like every time
this happens now, I'm just like fuck.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I can't stand the self tapes. It's like makes
me nuts.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
I kind of like the self tape.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, it's great from a just an economic standpoint, you're
in your house, whatever. I just go over it so
many times and I look back, I'm like, I fuck that,
I can do better.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I can do better.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I can And it's ten hours and my wife is like, dude,
we have to we have to move out.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Of this room. I'm like, I know, but I want more.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
But at least you don't have to like I have
to pretend to be straight women. So like I have
to I have wigs now, Like.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
I'm like, I'm not kidding, I have to, like I.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Photo of you in one of the ways.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Absolutely, I have to, like I have outfits. I'm like
fucking borrowing, begging.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Borrowing, Oh my god, amazing.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
I got to get my tits out, like it's crazy,
Like I gotta really like, oh yeah, it's more.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
You don't you take for granted that you look like
a woman.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
I have to go from this to like, look, oh
stop it it's tough, okay, Like it's it's that's kind
of my biggest, the biggest learning curve from right because
they can't really like a lot of times, I feel
like it's like a lot to ask them to use
their imagination.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
So now I have to, like I have a whole
process now that I go, I mean, you have to.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
It's also, by the way, I was like that even
whether it was taped or in person, like you want
to show up the.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Part, Yeah, I've gotten better at that.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean that's part of that. I always had
to rider. I'm like, dude, like, you're you're playing a
fifties like crooner type.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What are you doing with your hair like that? Like
what get your hair? Get your hair right?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Like put on the right put on like a the
right kind of shirt. Give them some vibe of.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
What sometimes actors can go too far with. They'll like
bring in a tea set.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I have seen that kind of thing. Yeah, for some auditions,
it's like why do you have a cane?
Speaker 7 (26:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, I yeah, I've seen that shit too. I did.
I auditioned years and years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was like a hockey movie and I played hockey
for eight years or whatever. But they these these dudes
are in there with little hockey bags over their shoulder
and like a stick. What are you going to do
in there with this hockey bag and the stick. I
think they're just approving that they'll actually play hockey.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I do feel like the auditioning process for me has
turned into this thing that is so not I think
I like tapes because you can access a lot of people,
and you can see a lot of talent, and for
people who don't have access. It's a great way to
find new talent. The issue I have with it is
that when you're in the room with a director and
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you're or even a casting director, and you're creating like
a connection with them and a rapport with them, and
you talk to them and then they start working with you,
that's when you create relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Like I don't think.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
If I was a tape taping that I would have
had the kind of success that I've had in getting parts.
Like part of what it was was actually talking to
people and being someone that hopefully would be really fun
to work with.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
And I've only diabered it first in once Like that's
how that's I feel like, how rare it is, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I just totally changed.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I've always said now I won't do that. I won't.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I won't cast unless it's like a small, small, small part.
But I won't cast a to speaking a speaking part,
not in person if I if I'm directing, it's just
I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, but look, you got us, you got us.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I know it seems to work out.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
It was where was your like feelings first down set?
I love to ask you this because I've never asked
you this both of you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Like what.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I was, I just got really uh.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Like, what were your first impressions?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
My first impressions, you guys were better than I hope.
So honestly, like you, you step into something and you
just want to I think I want to make sure
that I'm allowing things to feel collaborative and of course,
like a lot of this material was was intense at times,
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and I just wanted to make sure that I was
like being that I was enhancing what Bragg had already
sculpted to a point. So, Kate, you've said something about
hopefully you're a good fun time to work with, and
you absolutely are. You're like a party in this bitty
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body like it. It was like you're just that You're
a container for a party. So I was immediately I
just felt so comforted. And same thing with Hugh kp
is just the coolest fucking person alive. Maybe it fit
like seeps off of her. I don't think she control.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
It, so.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It just it just emits, but she sweats school.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Elli, you had a really interesting role because you there's
a part of you in this that had to carry
a lot of weight, and you know you're not there's
there's levity, and there's places in the script where they're
bringing levity, but you're sort of carrying so much in
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terms of being the you know, child of my my baby,
and and all the things that I'm experiencing and going through,
and then sort of the connection I have with Mike
and meeting Mike and falling in love, and you're sort
of like the reason and the you carry the fear
of like not knowing what any of this is going
(30:58):
to bring, and did such a great job of that.
But you did. When you know, we could be like
laughing and doing things and yelling at the TV screen,
you always had to be carrying this sort of heaviness
of like this isn't really like I need you to
focus on real life, you know, mom, And so that
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with that had to be like this age and this
wisdom and your your your audition, which was amazing, really
showed almost like sadness. Maybe that's not the right word.
It's like a little bit of like sad magic.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That that.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
It was kind of so compelling, and and then you
showed up and you really delivered, Honey, is your really
great performance. It's a career changing performance. This is going
to be exciting for you, you know, and your career
is going.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
To be really interesting to watch.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And I'm so excited for you because it really like
you brought so much.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It was you were lifting a lot in this and.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Maybe Sad Magic should be the name of your first album.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I feel inspired, I might have to do a voice
not or something of ideas. Thank you. That was really
something that struck me about this role, and yeah, I
think that's what it is. There was just so much
pain that like lived under the surface, and I imagine
there were years of just struggle without I think Mike,
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who became Papa like did add a lot to their
lives and to the family. And in a way, I
think Rachel had to handle certain things nearly on her
own for a while. So yeah, I'm I'm glad that
hopefully I was able to capture that a bit. But
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oh my.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Gosh, yeah, it's it's exciting. I was I was talking
with Mikayla with KP about this. I was like, you know, everybody,
everybody delivers such a great, you know, performance and brings
exactly what was needed, if not more, you know, And
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and KP is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
The kids.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
The kids really carry this sort of maturity sort of
like a lot of an all knowing understanding of their parents.
And I think a lot of people are going to
relate to what it's like to grow up with with
parents that you feel worried about and you know, and
(33:47):
and with that comes this sort of like watchful gate keep,
you know, gatekeeper kind of role that you both play
in this movie so well. And there's a great scene
with KP and and Hugh in the Tie Diner that
is so wonderful, and honestly, you guys do such great work, and.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
But I want to ask more questions about what your
first impressions of me and Hugh were.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Oh my god, KP.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now you have to go, well, okay.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
I got there and I was like, that's Wolverine dude,
Like fucking Wolverine dude. I was like I had manifested.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
I think being Hugh Jackman's daughter, I was always kind
I always related to Wolverine.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
I know this has nothing to do with this film.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
I was just like, wow, God, even my agent was like,
you fucking manifested this, and I was like I did.
So I got there and it's just like, you know,
he's just he's kind of just everything you think he
he's this like delight, like he's big and he's like
this big presence, but he's gentle, just like Wolverine. And
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I just felt, really, I felt, I don't know, immediately
felt connected to him. Like I was just like, this
is a really good man. And he just asked a
lot of questions and I was kind of like in shock.
I very rarely get I'm very rarely in shock by somebody,
but I was.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
I was.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
I was starstruck a little bit when he walked in.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
You aren't starstruck by me.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
No, because I saw you and I was like because
I was like, I saw you, and I was.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Like, that's my girl, right, I saw you, and I
saw I saw first of all, I was like, how
I need to get up in that trailer.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Okay, I need to I didn't even that lady.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
That lady knows how to drink, So I'm ready, let's
fucking go.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
I saw you, and I was like, sister, for sure.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I felt like immediately like you and I we're gonna
we were gonna party.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
And we did and it was.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But Hugh Hue to me, yeah, he's like a grasshopper.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
He's like it's.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Hard to describe he's got this like this like he's
a gentle giant and he's got this like fatherly thing.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
But it's also this like he's very young at heart.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, he's like a young spirit.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
It's like he hasn't been this is like it's it's
and he's there's yeah, there's something. He's a He's a
fascinating person because it's so pure. He's so pure.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, he really like immediately opened his heart and like
we were just like this set. I feel like within
ten minutes of talking, I'm like telling him about like
my family trauma, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Well, yeah, there's certain kinds of people who just weirdly
open up to yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Which was really I mean I try to treat and
this is the case for all of you, Ella, and
especially you because you and I have some really important
and beautiful scenes together. But like I I just feel
lucky that going into this new career that every time
I do this, I get a masterclass from the people
(37:08):
I'm working with, you know what I mean, Like I'm
new to this, so I try to treat each job
as school, you know, or a class, and I've just
been really lucky that every time I step onto set.
I feel like everyone's in a good way, everyone's better
than me, and I can be a student to everyone.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
And that's how I felt.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Just I was watching, I was an observer to all
of you and to what you were doing and bringing,
and I felt like parts of it seep into into
my memory bank of how to be better at this job,
you know, And so it's just really special.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I have a question about you.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, did you have to.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Mask his muscles because the biceps in the movie, Oh,
they were it was like it was like, okay, well,
it's almost like Craig was.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Like, you have to gain weight.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He's like now, because you know, he was shredded still
and there's one thing where he kind of had his
shirt off and you're like, oh Jesus, like.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Little boxes of like playing meals. Did you notice that, Kate.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, No, he's he's he he's very disciplined.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
He's like the.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Ideal body type for myself, like spectacular.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
It's s gunning legs, my.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
God, legs, and they're long. That's why he's like a
grasshopper to me. He's like got he's all legs.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
His legs are beautiful, and he wears a boot cut Jean.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
At right, so it's like tight around the quad and
sort of at the knee.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It releases just.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
And he's got a gorgeous little tushy. It's like everything's
just perfect, you know, every.
Speaker 8 (39:04):
Scene that we're like hugging him.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I don't know if you noticed this, l it was like,
you know, there's a bunch of scenes where we're just
like getting My hands are just on his tits.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I think.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
I couldn't something.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
I couldn't.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
They were being drawn like a magnet. I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Oh my god, was so funny.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's funny when you gain weight for a role.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I get it, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
His his mic didn't really need it for me.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I had to get soft, you know, because it was
really like important that that that Claire. She's definitely not
like I'm so athletic in my normal life. Like I
was like, I have to let her go, let her go.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I went into it by the way. I thought it
was a great look for you.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Well, look, you know, it just just and I it's
not like I'm like Hugh where I'd see Hugh and
he'd be like, you know, you know, jump roping and
doing his things, you know, between takes and stuff, and
I was just like, oh god, I miss I miss
like taking care of myself.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You were.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Like you it still was shining through. I remember there
was one time it was like you were shooting pretty
late and you started stretching and I was like, holy fuck,
like she's so flexible, impressive.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Oh well it was It was that was. We had
such a great.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Time, and and we filmed in our house in this
like in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
We had this like.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Little crazy house and it was freezing and then it
was too hot and freezing. This was like there was
no frills really on this set except my except our trailer,
which we were never at.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That was it was a nice trail.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Kate had a really nice one.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
It was a nice trailer. But but but we were
hardly there unless we were like you know.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
No, I just did an episode of her TV show,
and I know all the guys there.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Kate's trailer like.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Takes half of the stage on the out side, and
then justin everyone else is just.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Like like three banger, like Kate took everything.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
She's a defa hold on.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I that's not fair that movie or that show.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Our show is they come and go like Justin's like
He's like I came in, I did a little scene
like and then I don't have to come back for
like seven hours.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm gonna go like to l O and like Cold Plunge.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I'm like, fuck off. I'm here all day, like fifteen
hours a day. But you know what's fun is my
trailer is a hang spot, so like every we end
up hanging out together, which I think is like, you know,
I'm Francis Mickdorman said to me on the set of
Almost Famous because nobody should have trailers. And I actually
feel that way about trailers. I think they're that way.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
Really, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
I live on a bus, so for me, trailer feels
like really connected.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Like I love trailer, I know, but but together, like
it'd be one thing if like there was like like
that's where like the green rooms are fun green you're
together and you're you're you're connected, and you're on the
You're in this collective experience instead of people like going
to their weird you know, little areas.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
What are you most excited about moving forward from this?
Like Ella, I mean, KP, we haven't seen you yet,
We've just started the process. Are you going to come
out and are you coming to the premiere?
Speaker 8 (42:51):
I will be in Europe.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
You're on tour.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's so small tour.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
I'm on tour.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
So unfortunately, no, but I did get to do some
really fun press stuff for this.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Movie in New York before I left.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I miss you, guys, And it's definitely unfortunate. But I
mean I saw the movie and I thought it was amazing,
Like I me and my girlfriend were crying, but I
was like, this is a beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean before we get out of here,
That's what I just wanted to say too. I mean,
I saw it at the La premiere, and you haven't
seen a movie made like this in a long time.
He's a throwback the movies used to be like this,
and I think you guys, and Craig walked this really
amazing line of being upbeat even through tragedy. He didn't
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harp on it so much. It was still uplifting and
it felt good, you know.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, he did such a great job of making something
that feels and is like incredibly tragic inspiring.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You eve there going like yet life is hard. Life.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The last time you saw like a true old school
feel good movie. I mean that's what this was to me.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean rock rock, like a rock and
roll movie too, you know what I mean that musical movies.
Can I feel like can lean really trauma porny or
like really corny vibes and yeah, right in the middle
to me where it's just perfect, Like if you get
the sadness, but you.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Get yeah, I love Emo. The sadness and darkness and
music is just the best.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It's like yeah, like Needle and the Hay, like Elliott Smith,
like it's just yeah, that's what.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
I've been giving on stage. Just sad, just.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Pure sad, sad, magic magic.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
K can't take that because that's Alice.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I don't want it. I won't say it's for everyone,
whoever it applies to all, you give you the rights.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I want to say this to all of our listeners.
You have to check out KP's music. You have to
see her on the road. She's an absolute dream.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I love her and and we want you to.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
See our movie because we all love it so much
and we're really proud of it, and hopefully you guys
will all check it out. Enemy these amazing young actors
in it. I love you, guys. Thank you cool so
great and yeah, they're so great, and they were so
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great in the movie, and.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I know, really really really really great.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
And I love getting to know them.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
And Ella is just fantastic and KP, like she said,
like just getting back.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I didn't realize she just got getting started. She's incredible.
Ella blew me the fuck away. I thought she was amazing.
And then you know, standing up against you and you
who are just amazing and professional and doing it for
so long. She was almost She's such a necessary integral
part of the movie because she is the reflection you know,
(46:02):
I mean, you have to have that character to see
who these people are actually affecting. Yeah, it's like this
voice of reason essentially, and she was just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
She's amazing. She's amazing.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
I hope she I like every time I'm talking to
journalists and people like she really is. It's just like
one of those young talents where you're like, whoa where
did this come from?
Speaker 3 (46:31):
She is exciting and forever, like do yourself a favorite
Google Henry Danger.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
She's like a baby.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
And it just goes to show that like talent finds
its way wherever it's supposed to go and However, you know,
as actors, you can only do as much as you're
given and the opportunities that come to you. But like
never underestimate no matter what anybody's done, if they have talent,
it can it will show itself, you know. And that's
some Yeah, and this really like it's exciting for her,
(47:00):
Like I's like as as her as her movie Mommy,
I'm like really excited and yeah and KP, like she said,
like we just became it is cool. Yeah, Like we
go out, Like I was like, oh, so you're my
new boss friend and we're going to hang out all
the time. We've had some great nights where we've just
(47:20):
like gone out and like eaten amazing and we love
our martinis and we're just she's the best and she's
so talented and.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
And I love you, Oliver. You okay, okay bye
Hi, I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
We are a sibling raivalry.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 4 (00:30):
Revelry.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
That's good. So last night I went to Desky Trucks
are in town.
Speaker 5 (00:43):
Their band they're this Dark Trucks is amazing, one of
the great guitar players of all time, and Susan Tdsky
is his wife, who's a great like blue singer guitar player,
and they have this great band and it's very joyous
and it's this amazing like it's like a musical experience.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
They always have like fourteen people on the stage. It's
so much fun.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
They're in town doing like the Rock and Roll Hall
of Fame, and turns out they were supposed to do
it with.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
This guy Joe Clarity there, but he.
Speaker 5 (01:16):
Got sick, and so now they asked Chris to sing,
and so Chris is going to sing at the Hollywood
at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, my ex husband,
And then they asked me to come sing.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
A Neil Diamond song.
Speaker 5 (01:31):
They played this like really fun, small gig that they
never do stuff like that at this place called the
Peppermint Lounge in La And it was so much fun
and we sang forever in blue jeans. And then it
was crazy because it was like, you know, I've known
Derek Trucks since he was twenty years old and I
(01:51):
was twenty were the same age, and we were babies
in like this crazy weird rock and.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Rolls the world almost famous stuff.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
So when I was Chris, when I met Chris, Derek
was a young like sort of prodigy guitar player, and
then he ended up in the Ahman Brothers and so,
and then he had a band called Derek Trucks Band,
and then and then he met his wife and they
have a band. But I had this whole thing, and
I seeing him was like it was like bringing back
for both of us. I think, bringing back so many memories.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
And then I look on.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
The stage and his like Tech, his guitar Tech used
to work with the Crows, and I was like Frank,
and it's.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Just there's something about the music world.
Speaker 5 (02:34):
It's really really small, right, Well, yeah, Danny goes, but
Danny comes and Danny's back there and it's like he
runs into two old friends from his world and music,
and you know, it was just one of those great nights.
And it's something that music is that when you live
or have experienced the road, whether you're a wife of someone,
(02:55):
a girlfriend of someone, or you just have live in
that experience. M there's just there's literally nothing like it.
There's literally it's it's like one of the great like
happy places.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
That's just you know.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Anyway, Okay, so allie real quick before they come on. Yes,
I'm very excited about this. We're interviewing my daughters from
the movie Song Sung Blue. So Ella Anderson plays my
daughter in this film. Yep, she is I'm gonna say this,
we'll say this surge up. But she's absolutely wonderful and
(03:33):
brilliant in this film and is going to have such
an incredible career.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
KP.
Speaker 5 (03:40):
King Princess is known as a musician. She is one
of my favorite musicians out there. She's fucking, amazing, awesome.
She plays Hugh's daughter and is also just fantastic. So
I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
So hi, Hi.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Ladies, guys, meet my brother Aarve. I don't think you've
met Alie.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
I met Ella I didn't meet I didn't meet KP. Hey, Allie, Hi,
how are you?
Speaker 6 (04:12):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How are you?
Speaker 1 (04:13):
Ali?
Speaker 5 (04:14):
KP's on the road, are you She's on a bus
with like thirteen people right now.
Speaker 7 (04:19):
Well, actually I'm in the Soho house currently, but I
will go fancy.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
She decided to throw down and see my limit.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
I hit my wife. My wife and I were watching
SNLA and KP came on. This was a while ago
and we were just I was like, who is this?
I mean it was incredible. I think you were wearing
like a tutu.
Speaker 6 (04:38):
It was a kilt.
Speaker 7 (04:39):
It was a feminine kilt.
Speaker 2 (04:41):
Okay. Was it frilly? Maybe not?
Speaker 7 (04:44):
It was pants with a kilt attached.
Speaker 2 (04:46):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
I love that Ollie remembers what you were wearing.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Because it was It was that good. She was that good.
It was that good.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
I mean it was because I hadn't heard of you
and Aaron and I my wife had boom.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
It was like, who the fuck is this?
Speaker 1 (05:00):
And then Aaron became obsessed.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yes she did in my wife because.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
When I was working with you, Aaron, his wife was.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Like, oh my god, I'm obsessed to get Aaron to
a show.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
One hundred percent she's in the other room right now, like,
you gotta tell her about s L and how we
feel about her.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
I'm like, babe, I get to it.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
But by the way, Ella, let's not leave you out, Okay,
because Henry Danger is You don't understand how huge this
has been in my family. I have eighteen fifteen and
a twelve year old girl, two boys, so when my
boys were younger Henry Danger. My daughter just finished an
entire marathon of watching every single episode of Henry Danger.
Speaker 6 (05:43):
Yeah, that is some commitment.
Speaker 2 (05:45):
No, I know, that's so cute.
Speaker 6 (05:48):
That's amazing.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I don't even know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Oh, Henry Danger was the show.
Speaker 6 (05:53):
No, I was. I was on the show for a
million years and it was Nicolo. You know it was.
It was wild. It was the time the longest running.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Live action It's crazy we saw that. You guys like
grow up.
Speaker 6 (06:11):
The marathon is that much more impressive because there's.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
So many episodes, I know, unbelievable. Again, my wife is like,
make sure you tell her that, like we love Henry Danger.
I'm like, okay, babe, I got it.
Speaker 7 (06:29):
Well.
Speaker 8 (06:29):
Before we get into.
Speaker 5 (06:30):
All of the fun stuffs of like the movie and
everything let's just like a break down a little bit,
like you know, Ella, We'll start with you.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Where where were.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
You born and raised? I mean, I know all the
answers to that, pet.
Speaker 6 (06:44):
Yeah, of course I was born and raised in two
different places. So I was born like twenty five minutes
outside of Detroit. I always put it that way. It
depends on the traffic. It can be more with traffic.
But no one knows where Ipsilanichi is. It's really adorable, though,
if you have the chance to go, you might not
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have much to do, but there are some sweet people.
And then I moved to la when with my whole family.
We all relocated when I was like six, So my
formative years were all around the city and moving a
ton And.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, why did you guys move to la.
Speaker 6 (07:26):
I mean it was it was all the stars were aligning.
Like my dad ended up getting a job that the
company was based in Anaheim at the time, and I
started working when I was really young. I didn't realize
how young that I was, which I think in part
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was because I had two older brothers and I kind
of thought that I was them and in the same
chapter of my life as they were. But I also
just yeah, once I found film, I just knew that
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it was what I wanted to do, so I was
able to work as well. And then my brothers really
liked the weather. They're super outdoorsy, active, so they like
the fact that they could jump off of buildings and
du parkour.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
And there's three of you, yeah, three total, And what
are the age differences?
Speaker 6 (08:29):
Okay, so I have two older brothers, but they're identical twins. Okay,
four years and one of them is technically a minute older,
but I think he acts the youngest in a good way.
He's really he inspires me to be a little more free.
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And I'm the baby. I'm the baby girl, only girl.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
I remember your mom saying to me on set, Ella
takes She's like, I just just buy it, just get it,
just get this, because Ella takes forever to like if
she likes something, she like if it's a coat, she's like, oh,
I don't know, She'll wait like a year to get
a coat.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Her Mom's like, just buy that out.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I'm a wonder.
Speaker 6 (09:18):
That's the worst. You know, even on set, you find
yourself in conversations and then like three days later or
a week later, I'll think, ah, if I had been
able to think a little bit deeper on that or
just let it ruminate. Then I would have maybe it
said something, not said something. But my perspective is a
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little bit different on that now. So Yeah, across my life,
I like to think before I buy something, I need
to make sure that I've known that I want it
for like a year.
Speaker 8 (09:51):
I wish I had that problem.
Speaker 5 (09:53):
Tell me about it, though, because.
Speaker 6 (09:57):
It's always in the back of your mind and you're
always like, h if I had that thing that I've
been knowing that I need for like four months, then
I would be complete. But I just I deprived myself.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
Oh so I have my Basically, my West Coast daughter
is really which you're the West Coast hunter and now JP,
you're my East Coast step daughter. So where were you
born and raised?
Speaker 7 (10:23):
I was born in New York in Manhattan. I was
raised in Williamsburg, Brooklyn. I spent eighteen years in Williamsburg
and then seven in LA from like I guess, yeah,
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seventeen to twenty four or five, I was in LA.
And yeah, but I'm back in New York.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Were you in LA on your own? Did you move
out to LA?
Speaker 7 (10:57):
I moved out so I got into USC when I
graduated high school, and I went and did a year
at USC at seventeen, and then I signed my record
deal and like my first lease, and I moved at seventeen.
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I moved into my own apartment, so I didn't even
I wasn't even eighteen, and then I was just in
LA from from then on as a young adult as
a teenager.
Speaker 3 (11:27):
Really wow, you were seventeen living in Los Angeles like
basically underage.
Speaker 7 (11:33):
I was underage. I had to Yeah, they didn't look at.
I didn't have any credit, so they didn't look at.
I had like kind of a sus landlord. It was
cool though. It was cool. I lived in like a
like one of those like Melrose Place.
Speaker 3 (11:49):
Styles Yeah yeah, yeah, like courtyard.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
And it was kind of like if you could make
a show about that apartment.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Where where was were you in Hollywood's.
Speaker 7 (11:59):
West Hollywood on North Laurel and Sunset.
Speaker 3 (12:02):
Okay, I know exactly, yeah, up the street from Green Blats.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, exactly where that is.
Speaker 7 (12:08):
Yeah, And it was it was pretty cool. I mean
it was nice because like you could kind of give
your keys to anybody, you know, like and they would
all everybody kind of took care of each other. But
they also there was so much fighting, so there was
always drama. It was it was fun to it was
fun to watch the drama too.
Speaker 5 (12:27):
I feel like I feel like when I think about
both of you. Well, also, you grew up in music,
Mikayla Kp. I call you MICHAELA, but uh you you
grew up in music. Your dad is an engineer, and
so what was like your kind of youth experience, like
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in connection to music? Was it constant?
Speaker 8 (12:53):
So my dad's.
Speaker 7 (12:54):
House in Williamsburg was like a factory building and the
apartment shared all with the studio, and it wasn't soundproof,
so it was just constant, like if they were tracking
drums or guitar, it was just it was just constant noise,
which I don't even think I registered. Like I remember
moving to la and not being able to sleep because
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it was so quiet. And yeah, I mean you just
couldn't keep me out of the studio, Like I was
just home from school, backpack homework, set up in the studio,
pretending to do homework, really just listening to everybody recording.
You literally could not get me out of the studio. So,
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I mean, I think it was just an obsession like
from I think it was innate.
Speaker 1 (13:43):
And what was your first instrument that you started playing.
Speaker 7 (13:46):
My first instrument was drums because my dad's a drummer,
and I think, you know, being like an angry little lesbian,
I wanted to smash.
Speaker 6 (13:54):
I wanted to smash stuff.
Speaker 8 (13:57):
I was drums.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
You still want to smash stuff.
Speaker 7 (14:01):
And then I think I think I was probably like
fuck this because my dad did it. And then I
moved to piano and guitar because I wanted to start
comping for myself singing like I wanted to. I wanted
to write and I wanted to sing songs. So I
started with the more melodic instruments to to basically play
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for myself.
Speaker 5 (14:38):
Which so interesting about both of you guys, because Ella,
people don't really know this, but you're a very good singer,
beautiful singer, amazing singer. But you have a musician who
started as a musician. That's the world that you know
who really wants to act and it loves getting into
that art form. And then Ella, you starting out acting,
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is music going to be the next thing that you
kind of venture into.
Speaker 6 (15:04):
That's such a good question. I feel like, yeah, I
my parents are musicians also, which wasn't even something that
I thought about when we were filming songs on Blue.
But I think there are certain things that in a
way I understood about growing up with parents who have
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this like really artistic way of expressing themselves. And sometimes
it's you know, my parents aren't aren't like accountants, they
don't they're creatives. Yeah, yeah, that was kind of the
That was the first thing that I ever knew, and
music was like the pillar for everything, and film was
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the thing that brought us together for leisure, which I
fell in love with. But they're they're really yeah, they're
different parts of myself. I don't know. I only do
things when they feel organic, So you know, I consider
myself sort of a singer, but a songwriter. And that
only happened because my brother's studio was in the room
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next to mine, and there was a time where he
was producing something that I got ideas for and I
went into his bedroom and sat on the floor on
his carpet and started writing to it, and then I
started laying down vocals, Like It's just I do things
when I feel drawn towards them. So in this very moment,
I'm I'm really focused on film and finding like the
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next thing I want to be a part of. And
who knows when when making more music will call back
to me.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
It's part of why do you feel like?
Speaker 5 (16:44):
You know, I think Craig so Craig is our writer
and director, Like he's such an interesting because he I
always say Craig has music in him, you know, Like
I feel like the reason why this movie turned out
so great is because he really understood music.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
He lives it, he loves it.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
He's like Memphis, Tennessee, obstats with musicians, Like that's his
world that he sort of exists in Memphis more musical
than film.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
But everyone in.
Speaker 5 (17:16):
This movie has a real, like not only profound connection
to music, but like a longing to express themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
Through through it, you know.
Speaker 5 (17:28):
And when he casts you, like, do you think that
like he understood you guys as artists because he understood
your musicality.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
Because that's how I see.
Speaker 6 (17:39):
Him, I would say, on my I don't know, Yeah,
what's your experience. I mean, I'm curious what your thoughts.
Speaker 8 (17:46):
Are on all I can.
Speaker 7 (17:48):
I mean, what was so great about this role for
me is I had nothing to do with the music.
Speaker 8 (17:54):
Like that was so lovely. Like I was like, thank god,
I am not the one singing.
Speaker 7 (18:03):
I'm like, I'm like, let Kate belt to out, girl,
let her have her moment, honey.
Speaker 8 (18:09):
I was like fought that, which was awesome. But what
was kind of healing for.
Speaker 7 (18:14):
Me about it was it's about growing, you know, It's
about a family that is that is kind of subservient
to music, right, Like the kids are like, we're you know,
you don't choose where you're born into and were our
family was, you know, we're children of working class musicians,
which I relate to. And I felt like going through
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the audition process with Craig and whoever else was in
that room, it felt like those conversations were being had,
Like I was asked about my experience, and I think
they saw that I related to being the daughter of
a musician who didn't really have a glamorous career, you know,
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like my dad doesn't have a glamorous career.
Speaker 8 (19:00):
My dad's a recording engineer, you know.
Speaker 7 (19:02):
I described it as like, you know, you've got the
people who design the audi's and then you have the
actual mechanics who build them, and like that's the engineers.
Speaker 8 (19:11):
The person in the garage you.
Speaker 7 (19:13):
Know, and in a lot of ways, this family, Mike
and Claire are they're the mechanics, you know, they're the
ones who are like bringing joy to the lay person
at the there, you know, not at the stadium, not
with the screaming fans for the majority of the movie.
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And so I thought that that was really it was
just it was just really nice to have that part
of myself seen by Craig and also just within the
story itself.
Speaker 8 (19:47):
I guess if that makes sense.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
What was the audition process?
Speaker 8 (19:51):
Like, yeah, I did like.
Speaker 7 (19:52):
Two auditions, and I was just like they were like, wow,
you're really good at playing the daughter of an alcoholic
and I was like.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 8 (20:03):
I was like I got this one in the bag. Guy, Hello,
what was yours?
Speaker 7 (20:08):
Like, I feel like that's more interesting. You have way
more scenes than me. I feel like you probably had
a way more extensive Isn't that funny you would think?
But it was really like a whirlwind.
Speaker 6 (20:19):
I sent. So here's the best. And I don't think
i've I haven't told very many people of this, but uh,
I just got a regular audition. I got a self tape,
but man, I went in to tape it and I
literally was like, there's no way I'm getting this. This
is a waste of my fucking time.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
Oh way, But where did that come from? Meaning like
it's just too big of a role. There's no way
I'm worthy.
Speaker 6 (20:48):
I'm a very ambitious person. I love a challenge. I
don't think that it was the material itself. I think
it was just I was like, I saw I saw
on the email it said Craig was directing it, and
I saw you know, Kate and you were a part
of it. Those are the only names that were attached
on my email. I saw who was casting it. I
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deeply admire it was just like it's such a long
shot and there are times where you sent certain things
into the abyss, and I was like, there's just no way.
And so I was trying to tape it. And I'm
a perfectionist and I'm not exaggerating, and I don't think
I've really told this to anyone, but I was like,
(21:28):
I'm deleting all of my takes. I deleted off of
the camera.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Wow. I left.
Speaker 6 (21:33):
I went home and I woke up the next morning
and I was like, oh, I'm probably not gonna get it,
but I just I have a really specific take on
this person and I don't even care. I want to
go back. And so I did it again and I
sent it in and I didn't hear anything for a
(21:53):
few weeks and I was like, well, that didn't happen.
And then out of nowhere, I was planning my first
trip to Europe, first trip alone, first trip I'd ever planned,
and I got an email or text or something like
that and it was like, you have a zoom to
meet with Craig to as like a callback. I was like,
(22:15):
oh my gosh. First off, I didn't expect that, but
also I'm supposed to be on a flight yep, so
that's not good. I might not be able to do it.
And fortunately they were amazing and they worked around me.
I had my suitcase in my car and I went
on the zoom right before I had to head to Lax.
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Did the zoom.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Then I go.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
I go to Italy and to Ireland. I'm there. I
guess my team was trying to get in touch with me.
For days. I was like watching sheep in the like
a castle. And I finally picked up the phone at
two am. My time must have been something normal LA time,
and they were like, dude, once you get back home,
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you need to go to New Jersey for a screen test.
And it was wild. It was a really wild process.
But it felt really quick because I just didn't even
think it was feasible to be.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
So the screen test was still part of the audition
or had you gotten the gig? And then it was like,
we're just going to do a screen test.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I think I was signing. I think I was signing everything.
I think I had got it.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
You meant what you mean when we were all in
Jersey taking pic doing and doing our first things.
Speaker 8 (23:29):
Yeah, we had it by then.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, you're not kissed.
Speaker 6 (23:33):
I was cassed.
Speaker 8 (23:34):
But that was an audition.
Speaker 5 (23:36):
I would that an audition. That was actually that was
the camera test.
Speaker 6 (23:44):
Oh yeah, No, it wasn't a screen test, it was
it was a camera test.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
I have a fear of being fired at any point.
Speaker 8 (23:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (23:52):
As a question though, like when something like this happens
and it's such an amazing moment, is there is there
fear that kicked saying like holy shit, I got it
now I have to fucking do it?
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Or are you is it just pure elation?
Speaker 8 (24:05):
Oh yeah, no yeah.
Speaker 3 (24:08):
Or is it like, oh my god, I got this gig?
And like, of course I want it, but oh shit,
like this is my this is.
Speaker 7 (24:14):
My second time doing this, so yeah, there's a little
bit of fear still involved.
Speaker 8 (24:19):
I am truly under prepared.
Speaker 5 (24:21):
Cap At one point, we're doing a scene in in
the car and like she's like vaping in the car.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
I'm like, kp, you can't. It was so.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
I was like, listen, I know this is still sort
of a rock and roll kind of experience. I'm like,
you can't vape in the car.
Speaker 8 (24:40):
I get away with a lot, I think because I'm
a musician. I think I get away with a lot.
They really give me quite a lot of leeway.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Oh so funny. I was like, oh, she's definitely her
second movie.
Speaker 8 (24:52):
Yeah, I'm definitely. I don't know.
Speaker 7 (24:54):
I feel like I'm a little bit like every time
this happens now, I'm just like fuck.
Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, I can't stand the self tapes. It's like makes
me nuts.
Speaker 8 (25:05):
I kind of like the self tape.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Well, it's great from a just an economic standpoint, you're
in your house, whatever. I just go over it so
many times and I look back, I'm like, I fuck that,
I can do better.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
I can do better.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
I can And it's ten hours and my wife is like, dude,
we have to we have to move out.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
Of this room. I'm like, I know, but I want more.
Speaker 7 (25:23):
But at least you don't have to like I have
to pretend to be straight women. So like I have
to I have wigs now, Like.
Speaker 9 (25:28):
I'm like, I'm not kidding, I have to, like I.
Speaker 6 (25:33):
Photo of you in one of the ways.
Speaker 8 (25:35):
Absolutely, I have to, like I have outfits. I'm like
fucking borrowing, begging.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Borrowing, Oh my god, amazing.
Speaker 7 (25:42):
I got to get my tits out, like it's crazy,
Like I gotta really like, oh yeah, it's more.
Speaker 8 (25:47):
You don't you take for granted that you look like
a woman.
Speaker 9 (25:50):
I have to go from this to like, look, oh
stop it it's tough, okay, Like it's it's that's kind
of my biggest, the biggest learning curve from right because
they can't really like a lot of times, I feel
like it's like a lot to ask them to use
their imagination.
Speaker 7 (26:06):
So now I have to, like I have a whole
process now that I go, I mean, you have to.
Speaker 5 (26:10):
It's also, by the way, I was like that even
whether it was taped or in person, like you want
to show up the.
Speaker 8 (26:16):
Part, Yeah, I've gotten better at that.
Speaker 5 (26:18):
Yeah, I mean that's part of that. I always had
to rider. I'm like, dude, like, you're you're playing a
fifties like crooner type.
Speaker 1 (26:26):
What are you doing with your hair like that? Like
what get your hair? Get your hair right?
Speaker 5 (26:31):
Like put on the right put on like a the
right kind of shirt. Give them some vibe of.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
What sometimes actors can go too far with. They'll like
bring in a tea set.
Speaker 6 (26:42):
I have seen that kind of thing. Yeah, for some auditions,
it's like why do you have a cane?
Speaker 7 (26:47):
No?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
No, I yeah, I've seen that shit too. I did.
I auditioned years and years ago.
Speaker 3 (26:52):
It was like a hockey movie and I played hockey
for eight years or whatever. But they these these dudes
are in there with little hockey bags over their shoulder
and like a stick. What are you going to do
in there with this hockey bag and the stick. I
think they're just approving that they'll actually play hockey.
Speaker 5 (27:09):
I do feel like the auditioning process for me has
turned into this thing that is so not I think
I like tapes because you can access a lot of people,
and you can see a lot of talent, and for
people who don't have access. It's a great way to
find new talent. The issue I have with it is
that when you're in the room with a director and
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you're or even a casting director, and you're creating like
a connection with them and a rapport with them, and
you talk to them and then they start working with you,
that's when you create relationships.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Like I don't think.
Speaker 5 (27:45):
If I was a tape taping that I would have
had the kind of success that I've had in getting parts.
Like part of what it was was actually talking to
people and being someone that hopefully would be really fun
to work with.
Speaker 7 (27:59):
And I've only diabered it first in once Like that's
how that's I feel like, how rare it is, Like.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
I just totally changed.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I've always said now I won't do that. I won't.
Speaker 5 (28:09):
I won't cast unless it's like a small, small, small part.
But I won't cast a to speaking a speaking part,
not in person if I if I'm directing, it's just
I don't understand it.
Speaker 8 (28:23):
Yeah, but look, you got us, you got us.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
I know it seems to work out.
Speaker 5 (28:29):
It was where was your like feelings first down set?
I love to ask you this because I've never asked
you this both of you.
Speaker 2 (28:39):
Like what.
Speaker 6 (28:41):
I was, I just got really uh.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Like, what were your first impressions?
Speaker 6 (28:49):
My first impressions, you guys were better than I hope.
So honestly, like you, you step into something and you
just want to I think I want to make sure
that I'm allowing things to feel collaborative and of course,
like a lot of this material was was intense at times,
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and I just wanted to make sure that I was
like being that I was enhancing what Bragg had already
sculpted to a point. So, Kate, you've said something about
hopefully you're a good fun time to work with, and
you absolutely are. You're like a party in this bitty
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body like it. It was like you're just that You're
a container for a party. So I was immediately I
just felt so comforted. And same thing with Hugh kp
is just the coolest fucking person alive. Maybe it fit
like seeps off of her. I don't think she control.
Speaker 7 (29:57):
It, so.
Speaker 6 (30:00):
It just it just emits, but she sweats school.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Well.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Elli, you had a really interesting role because you there's
a part of you in this that had to carry
a lot of weight, and you know you're not there's
there's levity, and there's places in the script where they're
bringing levity, but you're sort of carrying so much in
(30:35):
terms of being the you know, child of my my baby,
and and all the things that I'm experiencing and going through,
and then sort of the connection I have with Mike
and meeting Mike and falling in love, and you're sort
of like the reason and the you carry the fear
of like not knowing what any of this is going
(30:58):
to bring, and did such a great job of that.
But you did. When you know, we could be like
laughing and doing things and yelling at the TV screen,
you always had to be carrying this sort of heaviness
of like this isn't really like I need you to
focus on real life, you know, mom, And so that
(31:21):
with that had to be like this age and this
wisdom and your your your audition, which was amazing, really
showed almost like sadness. Maybe that's not the right word.
It's like a little bit of like sad magic.
Speaker 1 (31:43):
That that.
Speaker 5 (31:46):
It was kind of so compelling, and and then you
showed up and you really delivered, Honey, is your really
great performance. It's a career changing performance. This is going
to be exciting for you, you know, and your career
is going.
Speaker 1 (31:59):
To be really interesting to watch.
Speaker 5 (32:01):
And I'm so excited for you because it really like
you brought so much.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It was you were lifting a lot in this and.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
Maybe Sad Magic should be the name of your first album.
Speaker 6 (32:18):
I feel inspired, I might have to do a voice
not or something of ideas. Thank you. That was really
something that struck me about this role, and yeah, I
think that's what it is. There was just so much
pain that like lived under the surface, and I imagine
there were years of just struggle without I think Mike,
(32:41):
who became Papa like did add a lot to their
lives and to the family. And in a way, I
think Rachel had to handle certain things nearly on her
own for a while. So yeah, I'm I'm glad that
hopefully I was able to capture that a bit. But
(33:04):
oh my.
Speaker 5 (33:04):
Gosh, yeah, it's it's exciting. I was I was talking
with Mikayla with KP about this. I was like, you know, everybody,
everybody delivers such a great, you know, performance and brings
exactly what was needed, if not more, you know, And
(33:25):
and KP is the same thing.
Speaker 2 (33:26):
The kids.
Speaker 5 (33:27):
The kids really carry this sort of maturity sort of
like a lot of an all knowing understanding of their parents.
And I think a lot of people are going to
relate to what it's like to grow up with with
parents that you feel worried about and you know, and
(33:47):
and with that comes this sort of like watchful gate keep,
you know, gatekeeper kind of role that you both play
in this movie so well. And there's a great scene
with KP and and Hugh in the Tie Diner that
is so wonderful, and honestly, you guys do such great work, and.
Speaker 1 (34:15):
But I want to ask more questions about what your
first impressions of me and Hugh were.
Speaker 8 (34:21):
Oh my god, KP.
Speaker 1 (34:23):
Now you have to go, well, okay.
Speaker 8 (34:28):
I got there and I was like, that's Wolverine dude,
Like fucking Wolverine dude. I was like I had manifested.
Speaker 7 (34:38):
I think being Hugh Jackman's daughter, I was always kind
I always related to Wolverine.
Speaker 8 (34:44):
I know this has nothing to do with this film.
Speaker 7 (34:46):
I was just like, wow, God, even my agent was like,
you fucking manifested this, and I was like I did.
So I got there and it's just like, you know,
he's just he's kind of just everything you think he
he's this like delight, like he's big and he's like
this big presence, but he's gentle, just like Wolverine. And
(35:09):
I just felt, really, I felt, I don't know, immediately
felt connected to him. Like I was just like, this
is a really good man. And he just asked a
lot of questions and I was kind of like in shock.
I very rarely get I'm very rarely in shock by somebody,
but I was.
Speaker 6 (35:25):
I was.
Speaker 8 (35:26):
I was starstruck a little bit when he walked in.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
You aren't starstruck by me.
Speaker 8 (35:31):
No, because I saw you and I was like because
I was like, I saw you, and I was.
Speaker 7 (35:37):
Like, that's my girl, right, I saw you, and I
saw I saw first of all, I was like, how
I need to get up in that trailer.
Speaker 8 (35:45):
Okay, I need to I didn't even that lady.
Speaker 7 (35:48):
That lady knows how to drink, So I'm ready, let's
fucking go.
Speaker 8 (35:54):
I saw you, and I was like, sister, for sure.
Speaker 7 (35:57):
I felt like immediately like you and I we're gonna
we were gonna party.
Speaker 8 (36:01):
And we did and it was.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Well.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
But Hugh Hue to me, yeah, he's like a grasshopper.
Speaker 8 (36:09):
He's like it's.
Speaker 7 (36:10):
Hard to describe he's got this like this like he's
a gentle giant and he's got this like fatherly thing.
Speaker 8 (36:16):
But it's also this like he's very young at heart.
Speaker 1 (36:18):
Yeah, he's like a young spirit.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
It's like he hasn't been this is like it's it's
and he's there's yeah, there's something. He's a He's a
fascinating person because it's so pure. He's so pure.
Speaker 7 (36:31):
Yeah, he really like immediately opened his heart and like
we were just like this set. I feel like within
ten minutes of talking, I'm like telling him about like
my family trauma, and I'm like, okay.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
Well, yeah, there's certain kinds of people who just weirdly
open up to yeah.
Speaker 7 (36:47):
Which was really I mean I try to treat and
this is the case for all of you, Ella, and
especially you because you and I have some really important
and beautiful scenes together. But like I I just feel
lucky that going into this new career that every time
I do this, I get a masterclass from the people
(37:08):
I'm working with, you know what I mean, Like I'm
new to this, so I try to treat each job
as school, you know, or a class, and I've just
been really lucky that every time I step onto set.
I feel like everyone's in a good way, everyone's better
than me, and I can be a student to everyone.
Speaker 8 (37:29):
And that's how I felt.
Speaker 7 (37:30):
Just I was watching, I was an observer to all
of you and to what you were doing and bringing,
and I felt like parts of it seep into into
my memory bank of how to be better at this job,
you know, And so it's just really special.
Speaker 2 (37:50):
I have a question about you.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
Yeah, did you have to.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
Mask his muscles because the biceps in the movie, Oh,
they were it was like it was like, okay, well,
it's almost like Craig was.
Speaker 2 (38:03):
Like, you have to gain weight.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
He's like now, because you know, he was shredded still
and there's one thing where he kind of had his
shirt off and you're like, oh Jesus, like.
Speaker 8 (38:18):
Little boxes of like playing meals. Did you notice that, Kate.
Speaker 5 (38:23):
Yeah, No, he's he's he he's very disciplined.
Speaker 8 (38:28):
He's like the.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Ideal body type for myself, like spectacular.
Speaker 8 (38:34):
It's s gunning legs, my.
Speaker 5 (38:37):
God, legs, and they're long. That's why he's like a
grasshopper to me. He's like got he's all legs.
Speaker 8 (38:44):
His legs are beautiful, and he wears a boot cut Jean.
Speaker 3 (38:47):
At right, so it's like tight around the quad and
sort of at the knee.
Speaker 2 (38:55):
It releases just.
Speaker 5 (38:57):
And he's got a gorgeous little tushy. It's like everything's
just perfect, you know, every.
Speaker 8 (39:04):
Scene that we're like hugging him.
Speaker 7 (39:05):
I don't know if you noticed this, l it was like,
you know, there's a bunch of scenes where we're just
like getting My hands are just on his tits.
Speaker 2 (39:13):
I think.
Speaker 8 (39:15):
I couldn't something.
Speaker 6 (39:19):
I couldn't.
Speaker 8 (39:20):
They were being drawn like a magnet. I don't know
what happened.
Speaker 5 (39:25):
Oh my god, was so funny.
Speaker 1 (39:32):
Yeah, it's funny when you gain weight for a role.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
I get it, you know.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
His his mic didn't really need it for me.
Speaker 5 (39:38):
I had to get soft, you know, because it was
really like important that that that Claire. She's definitely not
like I'm so athletic in my normal life. Like I
was like, I have to let her go, let her go.
Speaker 8 (39:53):
I went into it by the way. I thought it
was a great look for you.
Speaker 5 (39:58):
Well, look, you know, it just just and I it's
not like I'm like Hugh where I'd see Hugh and
he'd be like, you know, you know, jump roping and
doing his things, you know, between takes and stuff, and
I was just like, oh god, I miss I miss
like taking care of myself.
Speaker 7 (40:18):
You were.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Like you it still was shining through. I remember there
was one time it was like you were shooting pretty
late and you started stretching and I was like, holy fuck,
like she's so flexible, impressive.
Speaker 1 (40:35):
Oh well it was It was that was. We had
such a great.
Speaker 5 (40:39):
Time, and and we filmed in our house in this
like in Jersey.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
We had this like.
Speaker 5 (40:48):
Little crazy house and it was freezing and then it
was too hot and freezing. This was like there was
no frills really on this set except my except our trailer,
which we were never at.
Speaker 1 (40:58):
That was it was a nice trail.
Speaker 8 (41:00):
Kate had a really nice one.
Speaker 1 (41:02):
It was a nice trailer. But but but we were
hardly there unless we were like you know.
Speaker 3 (41:07):
No, I just did an episode of her TV show,
and I know all the guys there.
Speaker 2 (41:11):
Kate's trailer like.
Speaker 3 (41:13):
Takes half of the stage on the out side, and
then justin everyone else is just.
Speaker 2 (41:18):
Like like three banger, like Kate took everything.
Speaker 8 (41:25):
She's a defa hold on.
Speaker 1 (41:28):
I that's not fair that movie or that show.
Speaker 5 (41:32):
Our show is they come and go like Justin's like
He's like I came in, I did a little scene
like and then I don't have to come back for
like seven hours.
Speaker 1 (41:41):
I'm gonna go like to l O and like Cold Plunge.
Speaker 5 (41:44):
I'm like, fuck off. I'm here all day, like fifteen
hours a day. But you know what's fun is my
trailer is a hang spot, so like every we end
up hanging out together, which I think is like, you know,
I'm Francis Mickdorman said to me on the set of
Almost Famous because nobody should have trailers. And I actually
feel that way about trailers. I think they're that way.
Speaker 8 (42:07):
Really, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (42:08):
I live on a bus, so for me, trailer feels
like really connected.
Speaker 4 (42:12):
Like I love trailer, I know, but but together, like
it'd be one thing if like there was like like
that's where like the green rooms are fun green you're
together and you're you're you're connected, and you're on the
You're in this collective experience instead of people like going
to their weird you know, little areas.
Speaker 7 (42:40):
Well.
Speaker 5 (42:40):
What are you most excited about moving forward from this?
Like Ella, I mean, KP, we haven't seen you yet,
We've just started the process. Are you going to come
out and are you coming to the premiere?
Speaker 8 (42:51):
I will be in Europe.
Speaker 2 (42:54):
You're on tour.
Speaker 1 (42:55):
It's so small tour.
Speaker 8 (42:57):
I'm on tour.
Speaker 7 (42:58):
So unfortunately, no, but I did get to do some
really fun press stuff for this.
Speaker 8 (43:04):
Movie in New York before I left.
Speaker 7 (43:06):
I miss you, guys, And it's definitely unfortunate. But I
mean I saw the movie and I thought it was amazing,
Like I me and my girlfriend were crying, but I
was like, this is a beautiful Yeah.
Speaker 3 (43:20):
Yeah, yeah, I mean before we get out of here,
That's what I just wanted to say too. I mean,
I saw it at the La premiere, and you haven't
seen a movie made like this in a long time.
He's a throwback the movies used to be like this,
and I think you guys, and Craig walked this really
amazing line of being upbeat even through tragedy. He didn't
(43:44):
harp on it so much. It was still uplifting and
it felt good, you know.
Speaker 5 (43:48):
Yeah, he did such a great job of making something
that feels and is like incredibly tragic inspiring.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
You eve there going like yet life is hard. Life.
Speaker 2 (44:01):
The last time you saw like a true old school
feel good movie. I mean that's what this was to me.
Speaker 7 (44:08):
Yeah, yeah, I mean rock rock, like a rock and
roll movie too, you know what I mean that musical movies.
Can I feel like can lean really trauma porny or
like really corny vibes and yeah, right in the middle
to me where it's just perfect, Like if you get
the sadness, but you.
Speaker 1 (44:27):
Get yeah, I love Emo. The sadness and darkness and
music is just the best.
Speaker 5 (44:33):
It's like yeah, like Needle and the Hay, like Elliott Smith,
like it's just yeah, that's what.
Speaker 8 (44:39):
I've been giving on stage. Just sad, just.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Pure sad, sad, magic magic.
Speaker 2 (44:48):
K can't take that because that's Alice.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
I don't want it. I won't say it's for everyone,
whoever it applies to all, you give you the rights.
Speaker 5 (45:00):
I want to say this to all of our listeners.
You have to check out KP's music. You have to
see her on the road. She's an absolute dream.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I love her and and we want you to.
Speaker 5 (45:12):
See our movie because we all love it so much
and we're really proud of it, and hopefully you guys
will all check it out. Enemy these amazing young actors
in it. I love you, guys. Thank you cool so
great and yeah, they're so great, and they were so
(45:32):
great in the movie, and.
Speaker 2 (45:33):
I know, really really really really great.
Speaker 1 (45:36):
And I love getting to know them.
Speaker 5 (45:37):
And Ella is just fantastic and KP, like she said,
like just getting back.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
I didn't realize she just got getting started. She's incredible.
Ella blew me the fuck away. I thought she was amazing.
And then you know, standing up against you and you
who are just amazing and professional and doing it for
so long. She was almost She's such a necessary integral
part of the movie because she is the reflection you know,
(46:02):
I mean, you have to have that character to see
who these people are actually affecting. Yeah, it's like this
voice of reason essentially, and she was just phenomenal.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
She's amazing. She's amazing.
Speaker 5 (46:16):
I hope she I like every time I'm talking to
journalists and people like she really is. It's just like
one of those young talents where you're like, whoa where
did this come from?
Speaker 3 (46:31):
She is exciting and forever, like do yourself a favorite
Google Henry Danger.
Speaker 2 (46:36):
She's like a baby.
Speaker 5 (46:37):
And it just goes to show that like talent finds
its way wherever it's supposed to go and However, you know,
as actors, you can only do as much as you're
given and the opportunities that come to you. But like
never underestimate no matter what anybody's done, if they have talent,
it can it will show itself, you know. And that's
some Yeah, and this really like it's exciting for her,
(47:00):
Like I's like as as her as her movie Mommy,
I'm like really excited and yeah and KP, like she said,
like we just became it is cool. Yeah, Like we
go out, Like I was like, oh, so you're my
new boss friend and we're going to hang out all
the time. We've had some great nights where we've just
(47:20):
like gone out and like eaten amazing and we love
our martinis and we're just she's the best and she's
so talented and.
Speaker 1 (47:29):
And I love you, Oliver. You okay, okay bye
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