July 11, 2024 • 31 mins
Lilly King is Paris bound!
The Olympic swimmer intends to make a splash at the Paris Olympics, which won’t be hard considering she comes from a family of athletes.
But was she always a great swimmer? And will this be her last Olympics?
Plus, find out her biggest dream yet!
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Railvalry.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So yesterday play golf and I was with a buddy
who were driving back. I'm in Colorado by the way,
with my new sexy voice, and I saw the river.
We drove past the river, stopped at the river and
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in the river with all my clothes on, and it
was amazing. Cold water is amazing. I know you think
I might sound crazy, but it's just invigorating. And you
sort of find a little eddy and you dive under
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and the river waters washing over you and you feel
like it's washing away all of the bad shit, you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Know what I mean. And then you come out of.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The river like a like a river dolphin, and all
of a sudden, you're in slow motion because you're shaking
your head and waters flying everywhere and super slow mo.
And then you breach and then you stand up and boom.
You are a new human being. You have become. You
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went from man to river, dolphin to new Man. That's
how I felt. And then I get into my car
with all my wet clothes, and then ten minutes later
I'm the same person. So I moral of this story
is you have to live in a river.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To be the best person you can be.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about,
but it was a really amazing experience. I suggest everyone
who is near a river or a cold body of
water jump in it. Change your life. Anyway, We've got
Lily King uh waiting in the wings and perfect timing.
The Paris Olympics are right around the corner. Cannot wait.
(02:44):
I am a true fan of the Olympics. I will
be posting up watching my girl, Lily King compete and win.
She's already won, you know before, and I'm excited to
talk to her. Let's let's bring her in. Let's talk
to an Olympian, someone who's accomplished way more shit than
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I have.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I am in Raleigh right now in a hotel.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And when do you go to Paris?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So we are here for another day and then yeah,
we leave for Croatia for another training camp tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Then we're in Croatia for another week and then Paris
after that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, so lots to get into. First of all, let's
start with your birth. Was it a good birth? Now?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
My birth? Wasn't? In case you want to know, I
came out. You know, I was born in seventy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Six, and I guess back in the day they just
let you cook in there until you wanted to come out, which,
of course now is not how it works. So you know,
I basically ate shit and almost died. I maconium. I
cracked out maconium and in the womb and inhaled it.
So I had like a thirty percent chance of living.
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Like I did not have a nice entry into this world.
So I'm sure yours was much better than mine.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You made it, so we're good.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think my mom has spared me the dirty details,
which right after hearing that, I think I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, but you know, you know,
it was really amazing. I'm talking about myself, but you know,
we'll get into everything. But it was amazing. My first baby,
Wilder I was He was born at the same hospital
that I was born at and he was see section.
So I was there for four days and I go
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up to the nick you because that's where I was
sort of taken care of and nursed back to health,
you know. And I go up there and like, oh, sir,
you can't be in here. You know this is not
you know, you have a child. I no, and I'm
like I'm sorry, I said I I was here thirty
years ago. And they're like, oh, oh, that's crazy. And
I'm being escorted out of there. And these two nurses
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heard me say my name, Oliver Hudson and they're like,
wait a minute, are you Oliver? And I said yeah,
and they like got emotional. They were the nurses who
took care of me when I was an infant. There
and a baby's fighting for my life. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Wile that's absolutely wild.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh it was crazy. It was just crazy that I
got to go in and see the babies. I mean,
it was really emotional for me, but amazing, amazing. Anyway,
there's a little piece of history. Okay, So I want
to get into growing up. You know your siblings. You
have one sibling, a brother.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I was reading about how you guys pushed each other
competitively in everything that you did. You know, talk about
that and did it ever get like bad, like contentious?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, so it definitely it still gets bad, does it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I remember I was trying to U He's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
The only person I'm trying to beat on my crossword
in the morning. So but yeah, our parents are we're
both D one athletes. So my dad ran cross country,
my mom swam. So it was always just very competitive
in our household, Like everything was a race, Everything was
a competition, and that's just kind of how it was.
(06:21):
So the two of us were only eleven months apart,
so I always had someone to race.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, so we're very close in age. We're the same
age for ten days during the year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so yeah, it was it was one we we
did different things for a long time, and like I
kind of always had like swimming was my thing and
music was a little more his thing.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But then he got into swimming.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Luckily, we swam different strokes, different events, so we didn't
have like too much of a competitive fire in terms
of like our our main events. But it practice sweet
sel race every day, and yeah, it would get it'd
get pretty intense it would.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, but isn't that great though, I mean, as
long as it's healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know, it's just such a driving force.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know, that competitive nature will only make both of
you better and whatever it is you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And it ended up we took two very different paths
in life. I wouldn't say very different paths. He did
end up swimming in college at Michigan.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
But you know, as a kid, like, swimming was always
my thing. It was it was.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Something that I was I was extremely passionate about, and
he was kind of like, okay, like I kind of
like it. But and he had never even slammed me
around until he went to college. He slam at Michigan,
and then yeah, I ended up swimming at Michigan, improving
a lot once he got to college, ended up being
a Big ten champion and setting a Big ten record,
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And then obviously my career has had taken off as
it did.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right, and then you're like, fuck, you look where I am.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, it's just cool. I think, you know. I like
to I like to tell kids and I do clinics.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like we had two we could not have had two
more different paths to get to success in the sport,
and there are so many different ways you.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Can do it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, So when did you know? Well, it's interesting you
just said your mom was a swimmer, right, So my
whole family or actors, everyone, every one of us. My
kids want to be actors, Kate's kids want to be actors.
You emulate you know, So I'm assuming she was a
big part of why you wanted to get into the pool.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think she was the biggest part of why I
wanted to get into the pool.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So when you jumped in, was it just like, Okay,
this is what I want to do. I mean, was
it just natural for you?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The love was very natural for it, I think, but
me being good at it was definitely not natural.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I was not good when I started.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I probably I was probably swimming year round for four
or five years before I really started to see any
success in the sport.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
So it was always the thing that I loved.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
To do, but it wasn't necessarily the thing I was
best at when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
How did Okay, so how old were you those four years? Like,
from what to what before you started to see some success?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Probably from around like eight to twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, and what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like how come you weren't finding and banging at twelve
or thirteen?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I was like, oh shit, here here we are.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I just I for some reason, I just loved it,
and there was really nothing that was that deep about it,
Like I just I just enjoyed the competition. I think
I enjoyed seeing that I could make small improvements every
time that I raced, and I really enjoyed beating people.
I still enjoy beating people. I think that's that's really
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what it came down to. And I thought it was
really cool that I could go to a meet one
weekend and beat somebody I had never never eaten before.
So I think that was probably where the love for
it probably first came from.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When did you become on people's radars like she can
really swim?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like this could be real?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah I had.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I had probably two moments that were really important in
my development as a swimmer.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So as cheesy as.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This sounds now, that first big moment was when I
was twelve and I won my first state title, which
is funny now, like how many kids have won a
state title like a zillion, But that was kind of
the first moment I was able to see that work
really pay off.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So that was that was a big, big one.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And then the second one I was I was sixteen
and I won junior nationals for the first time and
I had set I had set a.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
National age group records.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I was the fastest girl sixteen and under to ever
something the hunter of breast So that was that was
really kind of that next step into having that self
belief of I can make the Olympic team. So yeah,
two very different but very big moments.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and then how do you determine your best stroke?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Like, how did did you try things out? And I
was like, wait a minute, this is why I excel.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, No, definitely, there are a lot of people in
the sport that kind of switch events.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That was not me.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So I swim breaststroke, and breaststrokes kind of like the
weird stroke in swimming. But it's it's one that's I
don't know necessarily know if I have anything else to
compare it to, but it's kind of one like if
you're a breaststroker, you can only do breaststroke and you've
probably only been able to do breastroke your whole life.
So the hunter breast is my best event and it's
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been my best event since I was eight years old, so.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Really that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah yeah, wow, So talk about the commitment, you know
what I mean, Like it's to become an elite athlete,
you know, and to rise, you know, to the level
of success that you have. I mean, the commitment there
must be just so intense. And then balancing that with
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your life, you know, because as a swimmer, I'm assuming
you make money through sponsorships and stuff, but you know
a lot of these olympians, you know, need to have jobs.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So how did that? How did you balance all of
all that?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I was I was very lucky. I got fast
at a pretty young age. So so yeah, I won
my I won my first golol medal in twenty sixteen
and I was nineteen, so success really fell into my
lap I think at a good time. But yeah, it's
it's one where I train, like just training twenty five
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hours a week probably, and on top of that, you
have to always make sure you're eating the right things
and make sure you're getting enough sleep. And you know,
at this point in my career. I'm one of the
elder statesmen at twenty seven, so you know, it's it's
making sure you're taking care of your body. And it's
really really a twenty four to seven job. So it's
a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
There are a lot of things I can't do.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't really like to say the word sacrifices because
I think in the end it's worth it. But you know,
if it's outside of the month of August or September,
like I probably can't come to your wedding or go
on vacation. And if I do, I have to make
sure I have somewhere to train and time to train,
and it just it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's definitely, Yeah, definitely twenty four seven job for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So you're training all year round. M yeah, all year
Oh my god. Is there ever burnout with you?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Of course? But I still go to practice.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, so I think I think, you know, there are
moments in probably everyone's career, but especially you know mine
at this point where I've I've just been so fried,
like I can't I can't even function, But I still
have to get up and go to practice every morning.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So you find a way to make it work.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And so after Paris, are you hanging it up?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Not yet, I'm I'm getting there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So Paris will be my last Olympics, so I'm not
going to go for another four years. But but yeah,
in between Paris and La I will be hanging up
the goggles at some point.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And is that an exciting moment?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I know it's bittersweet, but you know it will allow
you to sort of move on to the next chapter,
which I'm sure will involve swimming some way.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it is really bittersweet, especially I
was telling I was telling somebody the other day, like,
this is my last Olympics, but there's still things about
it that feel like a first. So I think that's
that's really cool and special to be able to step
back and and realize that this is it. But there
are also some new things that got into you know,
(15:04):
my third Olympics. But yeah, I think I think it's time.
I think my body's ready, I think my mind is ready. Yeah,
but yeah, it's it's I've I've done everything I've ever
wanted to do in my career, which is something I
don't think very many people get to say.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So yeah, no, it's amazing yeah, it's a decision. I
think I'm pretty.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
At peace with so the first Olympics. Just walk me
through the moment, you know what I mean, when you
when you qualified and you made the Olympics, I mean,
what does that feel like? I mean, that's fucking incredible.
I mean, I know you probably knew you were going
to you know, I feel like you're you were like, nah,
(15:44):
this is where I belong. You know, Yeah, I'm happy,
but like this is not a surprise, right, I mean
I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Like you have that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, you know, that's actually that's one hundred percenturi At
that point in time, I was so twenty sixteen was
the year. It was following the summer following my freshman
year of college. I had an absolutely stellar freshman year,
improved a lot a lot, and I was at least
in my mind, pretty much invincible.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I was going the best time.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Every time I was hitting the water, nobody could keep
up all of a sudden, and I was really just
living the best life I could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So yeah, when I when I made it, obviously extremely excited,
but it was almost a higher relief, yeh, doing you know,
just dealing with trials.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We always say, Trials is a lot harder to.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Swim at than the Olympics, so it's a lot more stressful,
a lot more things.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Can go wrong at that meat.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So so yeah, very excited and felt like I was
doing what I was always supposed to do, but also
just extremely relieved.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So the Olympic experience, any of this is going to
be a third one.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You've already had two, So forget about those swimming for
a second, you know, which, of course that's what you're
there for, but what about the whole experience, you know,
the village and people and camaraderie or you know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Is it amazing? Is it not? Is it? You know? What?
What is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
What's the internal Olympics? You know?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's It's really cool. I'm excited this
time around. This is something I feel like that is
a first to like really fully embrace everything.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Just because Rio was.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So new and I didn't know anybody and I never
I'd never been in a meat like that before. And
then Tokyo was weird because there weren't fans and we
couldn't really gather or have fun.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's really cool being able to stay in a village
where there are people from literally everywhere in the world.
You know, I have obviously, like I see a lot
of people from a lot of different countries within the
swimming world, but there are a lot of people that
are competing in track or canoe or you know, basketball,
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whatever that you would never see, like I saw yaoming
in the village, Like what was I ever gonna see YAO? Mean,
you know, So it's it's really cool to be able
to like witness the people that are there and that
are also just excited to just be competing in the Olympics. Like,
you know, at least within the swimming community in the US,
we're just stressed out because we just want to swimp
(18:19):
fast and and we're there to with metals. But there
are a lot of people, the majority of people that
are there just there to celebrate their accomplishments and be
able to compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Which is kind of a refreshing viewpoint on it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting because you know, US is
just so dominant and swimming. You have countries coming in
who are like, there's no fucking way I'm gonna win.
So I would do my best, but I'm gonna have.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
A great time. Well I'm here.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, it's almost this liberating experience because it's.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Like there's no world where I'm winning. I'm gonna but
so I'm gonna have fun.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, and they do, and it's it's really cool to
and I hope this happens again because it didn't happen
in Tokyo. But every night in the village, like people
just congregate in the common areas that are pretty much
having a party every night.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So yeah, it's really cool. It's cool to be able
to celebrate with everybody.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, are there ever you know, obviously team camaraderie is huge,
but is there ever that you know, when you get
enough people together, there's gonna be issues. There's gonna be
people who don't like people. And I mean, does that
happen within a team where it's like, yeah, we're a team,
but you know what, you don't like me, I don't
like you just the way it is, Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I mean we've got a lot of egos on the team.
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Exactly that that's being to.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
My next point is like when you're a winner, there
are those big gas egos they can clash.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know, yes they do, and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, just a lot of big egos, a lot of
big personalities.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You don't get to the pinnacle of the sport and
being the best of the best without I think having
a super a lot of personality a lot of the time.
So yeah, we do have We do have some issues.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Are there, captains, meaning like you as being the elder
States person as you said, it's like, all right, it's
your job now to fucking get these people together. Meaning
if there's some shit going on, it's like, okay, you like,
I know we all have egos, but I've won more
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medals than you, I have seniority.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So here's what we're gonna do. You guys got to
get it together.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, we do have captains sometimes, like you will
have to keep people in check. But the great thing
about swimming is it as much as we're like it's
a team sport, it's not a team sport.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's not right.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, Like, unless.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You're on a relay together, if you're gonna fight, you're
gonna fight. It's okay, you know, we all have the
same goal in the end, so as long as you
get your shit done, like.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Who yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so how many medals? How
many medals do we have here? Where are you at?
What's your medal count?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Olympic medals?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Medals?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I have five Olympic medals, so two goal, two silver,
one bronze.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, that is so cool, Oh my gosh. And so
when you go over there, how long are you there
before you actually swim?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's a good question. I don't actually know.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'm gonna say probably like a week, a week like
in the village. And then I swum early in the competition,
so I started swimming.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
On day two, Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So yeah, and then you know, are you guys allowed
to party and have fun? I mean no, it's up
to you your individuals. But is it so focused? You
know where this is the moment and so you're can eat, right,
You're not gonna drink, You're gonna really stay on it right.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, I'm gonna say it's pretty frowned upon if you
if you begin your end of meat celebrations before the
meat is over, or at least before your roommates are done.
So but yeah, I mean, I'm twenty seven. I'm gonna
enjoy myself once I'm done.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'm not gonna lie and sneak around like maybe I
have in the past.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But yeah, like it's it's one where you know, what
happens in the village days in the village?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Is that like a Yeah, it's like a Vegas five
where it's like, you know, happened the village days in
the village.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Well, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know, in Tokyo, I don't think they had this,
but I remember in Rio in the in the dining
hall they had condom machines.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, no, I know, I read this. I read this.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, except they were super loud, right, so anytime anybody
would go get it and it would it would go
all over the everybody what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Everyone looks like, oh, someone's gonna, Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Now I heard that. I heard because the STDs run
ranked in the Olympic Village.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Like I read something about that where it's like, now
everyone got to be safe, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, Well, I think I think a lot of it
is that the athletes are on such a short leash
all the time that when you let go of that leash,
yeah they're gone. So yeah, the village gets gets pretty rowdy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I would say, do you live do you everyone lives
in the village. Is that sort of how it works?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
So most everybody lives in the village. It has started
that some of the more high profile athletes and high
profile sports will stay in a hotel outside of the village,
like the US women's national team for soccer has stayed
outside of the village. Men's basketball stays outside of the village.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So they got to stay on a cruise ship in
Tokyo and we were stuck in dorm rooms.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Oh really, yeah, I can't I can't imagine like Lebron Lebron,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, but hey, Michael Phelips always stayed in the village,
so did he there you know everybody? Yep, he was
always in the village because swimming stays in the village.
So he was with us in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, I actually no, I know, I know Michael
a little bit. He's a he's a really good dude,
you know.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Oh yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, he's really cool.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I played golf of them a bunch, and he's, uh,
he's just a.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Good human, you know. Yes, all right, So how's the
team this year? Solid?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, I think so, I think we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
It's in twenty twenty one, we had like six or
seven high schoolers on the team, which was pretty wild,
and all of those high schoolers have grown up, so yeah,
I think we've We've just got three on the team
this year, so it's a very very experienced team.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think they're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think everybody's looking pretty good and camp's been going
really well.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
So yeah, I think I think we're all ready.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And are you?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Obviously gold gold, gold, that's the goal, you know, But
will you be satisfied? How will you be satisfied at
the end of this Olympics being your last you know?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Hard not to say gold, gold, gold, But like, do
you in your mind have a goal?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think for me, like dream of all dreams. I
want to win the hundred breast again, the Turner breast.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
The girls have gotten a lot faster than they have
been in the past few years.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Which kind of sucks. But if I could just meddle
in that, that'd be awesome. And then the medley relay,
I would like I would like to win again.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Ye we.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I was on the prelim's relay last time, and we
ended up getting silver. But that's that's a relay, Like
I just have such a pride in that relay and
we've been we've been really dominant in it the last
few years. So that, Yeah, two golds I think would
be like the ultimate dream.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The ultimate who's your main who's in the hundred, who's
your main competition?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So there's a Chinese swimmer that just went just shy
of my world record, but a lot of the time
to time, the slimmers swimmer really really fast at Chinese
nationals and then don't repeat.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It when they get to the big meat.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So her and then Ruta my Latita won world championships
last year. She's Lithuanian. She should be really good, ready
to go. She actually won Olympic gold in twenty twelve
at fifteen. We're the same age, so that's kind of crazy. Yeah,
she should be. She should be on and ready to go.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think, do you get to swim against these girls
like throughout the year in worlds or you know, I mean,
or is this like one time like boom, hey, how
are you let's go?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah? It usually once a year, so yeah, it's it's
kind of intense.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then there's another cup African swimmer. She won the
silver in the hunter breast in Tokyo and golden the
two and her brushstroke Tachiana Smith, And she's a lovely human.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I love her to death, but I don't want to beat.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Me, that's what you say.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you have relationships with some of these, you know,
other athletes that aren't American?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I mean, do you connect and keep in touch?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We do have some meets like throughout the year occasionally,
like if people do World Cups, you get to, I
guess meet people and and uh and make friends when
we're less serious competitions. But yeah, I would say I
have some friends from from other places, but not usually
people that some of my races.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do you have an idea when you do hang up
the gogs? What what you might be doing? I mean,
are you do you have you? Do you have a plan?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't super have a plan. And I'm so excited
about that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Great, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I think my life has been so so planned out
for the last ten years that ye. Yeah, I think
I'm gonna not do anything. I'm gonna do a lot
of clinics. I love doing clinics.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I love.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I love being able to reach as many club teams
and young swimmers as possible. That's kind of something that
really warms my heart. So and I make good money
doing it, so I think that's that's something I'll probably
do and just hanging out the rest of the time.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
So how do you so, how do you make money?
Like how does this work? Just you know, and how
much do you make it here? And I'm kidding how
much like how much? Like how do you make your
money as an Olympic athlete? You personally?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right? Yeah, so I'm I'm definitely one of the more
fortunate ones because typically if I would say, if you're not.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Meddling at World through the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You're probably gonna have to get another job to live comfortably.
But yeah, so you I would say, first start off
making money with prize money. So depending on where you
place you get, you get a pay out. And then
on top of that, I'll have it like I have
a swimsuit sponsorship with Tear and then they will they
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pay out another base plus incentive money off of those finishes.
So it is mostly like based off of how you
finish it at whatever meat that's that's good to be
the big thing, and then other little little.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Sponsored things here and there. Yeah, a lot of Instagram.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And then if you're top I want to say, top
eight or top sixteen in the world, then U say
swimming will also.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Pay you a small base, right.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So yeah, it's like picking and choosing from a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, oh great, Well this has been so fun.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm I'm I feel like I'm sort of talking to
a celebrity now, you know, because I'm going to watch
well now I'm going to watch the Olympics and being
like I know her, come on, you know what I mean,
Like I'm excited. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. I'm
an Olympic fan just generally. I love the Olympics. So
I will be watching and rooting and when you win,
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you know, I just need some sort of a signal,
you know, maybe like like something like this, or maybe
like a yeah, like I like the head scratch. Yeah,
so I'll be looking for that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I never I will say, I never know what I'm
gonna do. I try to always have some sort of
some sort of celebration because you got to make it
interesting for TV, right.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, oh do you so? So do you have
a little celebraty.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean, you do.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'll do whatever. I'll snack the water, I think as
as I gave it a little.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Come on, give me some Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I
never know what's coming.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I can't wait. I can't wait. Thanks so much for hanging.
I appreciate it. And good luck, and uh I will
be watching.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, of course, thanks for chatting. I had fun.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, fun, fun, all right, see you later.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
See yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I was as I was talking,
I was, I was talking to her.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I was like, this is so cool because now you
know I don't I don't know any of the Olympians really,
I mean aside from like Michael Phelps or whatever. You're
just rooting for your for your country. So now I
have some skin in the game. Some skin in the game.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Go you to say, let's get all right, I'm out,
I'm out, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'm gonna go jump in the river.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm gonna go jump in the river and become a
magical freshwater dolphin.
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and
what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
Railvalry.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
No, no, sibling, don't do that with your mouth.
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
So yesterday play golf and I was with a buddy
who were driving back. I'm in Colorado by the way,
with my new sexy voice, and I saw the river.
We drove past the river, stopped at the river and
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in the river with all my clothes on, and it
was amazing. Cold water is amazing. I know you think
I might sound crazy, but it's just invigorating. And you
sort of find a little eddy and you dive under
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and the river waters washing over you and you feel
like it's washing away all of the bad shit, you.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
Know what I mean. And then you come out of.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
The river like a like a river dolphin, and all
of a sudden, you're in slow motion because you're shaking
your head and waters flying everywhere and super slow mo.
And then you breach and then you stand up and boom.
You are a new human being. You have become. You
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went from man to river, dolphin to new Man. That's
how I felt. And then I get into my car
with all my wet clothes, and then ten minutes later
I'm the same person. So I moral of this story
is you have to live in a river.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To be the best person you can be.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
And I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about,
but it was a really amazing experience. I suggest everyone
who is near a river or a cold body of
water jump in it. Change your life. Anyway, We've got
Lily King uh waiting in the wings and perfect timing.
The Paris Olympics are right around the corner. Cannot wait.
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I am a true fan of the Olympics. I will
be posting up watching my girl, Lily King compete and win.
She's already won, you know before, and I'm excited to
talk to her. Let's let's bring her in. Let's talk
to an Olympian, someone who's accomplished way more shit than
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I have.
Speaker 4 (03:08):
Hey, how's it going?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
How are you?
Speaker 4 (03:11):
I'm doing great? How are you?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Where are you?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
I am in Raleigh right now in a hotel.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And when do you go to Paris?
Speaker 1 (03:20):
So we are here for another day and then yeah,
we leave for Croatia for another training camp tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Okay, yeah, so.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Then we're in Croatia for another week and then Paris
after that.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Okay, so lots to get into. First of all, let's
start with your birth. Was it a good birth? Now?
Speaker 4 (03:39):
Was it?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
My birth? Wasn't? In case you want to know, I
came out. You know, I was born in seventy.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Six, and I guess back in the day they just
let you cook in there until you wanted to come out, which,
of course now is not how it works. So you know,
I basically ate shit and almost died. I maconium. I
cracked out maconium and in the womb and inhaled it.
So I had like a thirty percent chance of living.
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Like I did not have a nice entry into this world.
So I'm sure yours was much better than mine.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
You made it, so we're good.
Speaker 1 (04:16):
I think my mom has spared me the dirty details,
which right after hearing that, I think I appreciate.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, but you know, you know,
it was really amazing. I'm talking about myself, but you know,
we'll get into everything. But it was amazing. My first baby,
Wilder I was He was born at the same hospital
that I was born at and he was see section.
So I was there for four days and I go
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up to the nick you because that's where I was
sort of taken care of and nursed back to health,
you know. And I go up there and like, oh, sir,
you can't be in here. You know this is not
you know, you have a child. I no, and I'm
like I'm sorry, I said I I was here thirty
years ago. And they're like, oh, oh, that's crazy. And
I'm being escorted out of there. And these two nurses
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heard me say my name, Oliver Hudson and they're like,
wait a minute, are you Oliver? And I said yeah,
and they like got emotional. They were the nurses who
took care of me when I was an infant. There
and a baby's fighting for my life. It was unbelievable.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Wile that's absolutely wild.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Oh it was crazy. It was just crazy that I
got to go in and see the babies. I mean,
it was really emotional for me, but amazing, amazing. Anyway,
there's a little piece of history. Okay, So I want
to get into growing up. You know your siblings. You
have one sibling, a brother.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
I was reading about how you guys pushed each other
competitively in everything that you did. You know, talk about
that and did it ever get like bad, like contentious?
Speaker 1 (05:53):
Yeah, yeah, so it definitely it still gets bad, does it.
Speaker 4 (05:58):
I remember I was trying to U He's.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
The only person I'm trying to beat on my crossword
in the morning. So but yeah, our parents are we're
both D one athletes. So my dad ran cross country,
my mom swam. So it was always just very competitive
in our household, Like everything was a race, Everything was
a competition, and that's just kind of how it was.
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So the two of us were only eleven months apart,
so I always had someone to race.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
Yeah, so we're very close in age. We're the same
age for ten days during the year.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Yeah, so yeah, it was it was one we we
did different things for a long time, and like I
kind of always had like swimming was my thing and
music was a little more his thing.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
But then he got into swimming.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
Luckily, we swam different strokes, different events, so we didn't
have like too much of a competitive fire in terms
of like our our main events. But it practice sweet
sel race every day, and yeah, it would get it'd
get pretty intense it would.
Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, yeah, but isn't that great though, I mean, as
long as it's healthy.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
You know, it's just such a driving force.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
You know, that competitive nature will only make both of
you better and whatever it is you're trying to achieve.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
And it ended up we took two very different paths
in life. I wouldn't say very different paths. He did
end up swimming in college at Michigan.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
But you know, as a kid, like, swimming was always
my thing. It was it was.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Something that I was I was extremely passionate about, and
he was kind of like, okay, like I kind of
like it. But and he had never even slammed me
around until he went to college. He slam at Michigan,
and then yeah, I ended up swimming at Michigan, improving
a lot once he got to college, ended up being
a Big ten champion and setting a Big ten record,
(07:54):
And then obviously my career has had taken off as
it did.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Right, and then you're like, fuck, you look where I am.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Yeah, it's just cool. I think, you know. I like
to I like to tell kids and I do clinics.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
Like we had two we could not have had two
more different paths to get to success in the sport,
and there are so many different ways you.
Speaker 4 (08:13):
Can do it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Yeah, So when did you know? Well, it's interesting you
just said your mom was a swimmer, right, So my
whole family or actors, everyone, every one of us. My
kids want to be actors, Kate's kids want to be actors.
You emulate you know, So I'm assuming she was a
big part of why you wanted to get into the pool.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I think she was the biggest part of why I
wanted to get into the pool.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
So when you jumped in, was it just like, Okay,
this is what I want to do. I mean, was
it just natural for you?
Speaker 1 (08:47):
The love was very natural for it, I think, but
me being good at it was definitely not natural.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
I was not good when I started.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
I probably I was probably swimming year round for four
or five years before I really started to see any
success in the sport.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
So it was always the thing that I loved.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
To do, but it wasn't necessarily the thing I was
best at when I was younger.
Speaker 3 (09:10):
How did Okay, so how old were you those four years? Like,
from what to what before you started to see some success?
Speaker 4 (09:17):
Probably from around like eight to twelve.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Okay, and what do you attribute that to?
Speaker 3 (09:22):
Like how come you weren't finding and banging at twelve
or thirteen?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
I was like, oh shit, here here we are.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
Yeah yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I just I for some reason, I just loved it,
and there was really nothing that was that deep about it,
Like I just I just enjoyed the competition. I think
I enjoyed seeing that I could make small improvements every
time that I raced, and I really enjoyed beating people.
I still enjoy beating people. I think that's that's really
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what it came down to. And I thought it was
really cool that I could go to a meet one
weekend and beat somebody I had never never eaten before.
So I think that was probably where the love for
it probably first came from.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
When did you become on people's radars like she can
really swim?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Like this could be real?
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Yeah I had.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
I had probably two moments that were really important in
my development as a swimmer.
Speaker 4 (10:29):
So as cheesy as.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
This sounds now, that first big moment was when I
was twelve and I won my first state title, which
is funny now, like how many kids have won a
state title like a zillion, But that was kind of
the first moment I was able to see that work
really pay off.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
So that was that was a big, big one.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And then the second one I was I was sixteen
and I won junior nationals for the first time and
I had set I had set a.
Speaker 4 (10:58):
National age group records.
Speaker 1 (10:59):
I was the fastest girl sixteen and under to ever
something the hunter of breast So that was that was
really kind of that next step into having that self
belief of I can make the Olympic team. So yeah,
two very different but very big moments.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
Yeah, and then how do you determine your best stroke?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Like, how did did you try things out? And I
was like, wait a minute, this is why I excel.
Speaker 1 (11:27):
Yeah, No, definitely, there are a lot of people in
the sport that kind of switch events.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
That was not me.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
So I swim breaststroke, and breaststrokes kind of like the
weird stroke in swimming. But it's it's one that's I
don't know necessarily know if I have anything else to
compare it to, but it's kind of one like if
you're a breaststroker, you can only do breaststroke and you've
probably only been able to do breastroke your whole life.
So the hunter breast is my best event and it's
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been my best event since I was eight years old, so.
Speaker 2 (11:57):
Really that's kind of cool.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
Yeah yeah, wow, So talk about the commitment, you know
what I mean, Like it's to become an elite athlete,
you know, and to rise, you know, to the level
of success that you have. I mean, the commitment there
must be just so intense. And then balancing that with
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your life, you know, because as a swimmer, I'm assuming
you make money through sponsorships and stuff, but you know
a lot of these olympians, you know, need to have jobs.
Speaker 2 (12:31):
So how did that? How did you balance all of
all that?
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, I was I was very lucky. I got fast
at a pretty young age. So so yeah, I won
my I won my first golol medal in twenty sixteen
and I was nineteen, so success really fell into my
lap I think at a good time. But yeah, it's
it's one where I train, like just training twenty five
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hours a week probably, and on top of that, you
have to always make sure you're eating the right things
and make sure you're getting enough sleep. And you know,
at this point in my career. I'm one of the
elder statesmen at twenty seven, so you know, it's it's
making sure you're taking care of your body. And it's
really really a twenty four to seven job. So it's
a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:16):
There are a lot of things I can't do.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
I don't really like to say the word sacrifices because
I think in the end it's worth it. But you know,
if it's outside of the month of August or September,
like I probably can't come to your wedding or go
on vacation. And if I do, I have to make
sure I have somewhere to train and time to train,
and it just it's a lot.
Speaker 4 (13:36):
It's definitely, Yeah, definitely twenty four seven job for sure.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So you're training all year round. M yeah, all year
Oh my god. Is there ever burnout with you?
Speaker 3 (13:47):
Oh?
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Of course? But I still go to practice.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Yeah, so I think I think, you know, there are
moments in probably everyone's career, but especially you know mine
at this point where I've I've just been so fried,
like I can't I can't even function, But I still
have to get up and go to practice every morning.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
So you find a way to make it work.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
And so after Paris, are you hanging it up?
Speaker 4 (14:14):
Not yet, I'm I'm getting there.
Speaker 1 (14:18):
So Paris will be my last Olympics, so I'm not
going to go for another four years. But but yeah,
in between Paris and La I will be hanging up
the goggles at some point.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And is that an exciting moment?
Speaker 3 (14:34):
I know it's bittersweet, but you know it will allow
you to sort of move on to the next chapter,
which I'm sure will involve swimming some way.
Speaker 2 (14:43):
Right.
Speaker 1 (14:44):
Yeah, absolutely, I think it is really bittersweet, especially I
was telling I was telling somebody the other day, like,
this is my last Olympics, but there's still things about
it that feel like a first. So I think that's
that's really cool and special to be able to step
back and and realize that this is it. But there
are also some new things that got into you know,
(15:04):
my third Olympics. But yeah, I think I think it's time.
I think my body's ready, I think my mind is ready. Yeah,
but yeah, it's it's I've I've done everything I've ever
wanted to do in my career, which is something I
don't think very many people get to say.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
So yeah, no, it's amazing yeah, it's a decision. I
think I'm pretty.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
At peace with so the first Olympics. Just walk me
through the moment, you know what I mean, when you
when you qualified and you made the Olympics, I mean,
what does that feel like? I mean, that's fucking incredible.
I mean, I know you probably knew you were going
to you know, I feel like you're you were like, nah,
(15:44):
this is where I belong. You know, Yeah, I'm happy,
but like this is not a surprise, right, I mean
I feel.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
Like you have that.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
Yeah, you know, that's actually that's one hundred percenturi At
that point in time, I was so twenty sixteen was
the year. It was following the summer following my freshman
year of college. I had an absolutely stellar freshman year,
improved a lot a lot, and I was at least
in my mind, pretty much invincible.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
I was going the best time.
Speaker 1 (16:13):
Every time I was hitting the water, nobody could keep
up all of a sudden, and I was really just
living the best life I could have ever imagined.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:20):
So yeah, when I when I made it, obviously extremely excited,
but it was almost a higher relief, yeh, doing you know,
just dealing with trials.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
We always say, Trials is a lot harder to.
Speaker 1 (16:33):
Swim at than the Olympics, so it's a lot more stressful,
a lot more things.
Speaker 4 (16:37):
Can go wrong at that meat.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
So so yeah, very excited and felt like I was
doing what I was always supposed to do, but also
just extremely relieved.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
So the Olympic experience, any of this is going to
be a third one.
Speaker 3 (16:52):
You've already had two, So forget about those swimming for
a second, you know, which, of course that's what you're
there for, but what about the whole experience, you know,
the village and people and camaraderie or you know.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
Is it amazing? Is it not? Is it? You know? What?
What is that? Like?
Speaker 3 (17:09):
What's the internal Olympics? You know?
Speaker 1 (17:13):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's It's really cool. I'm excited this
time around. This is something I feel like that is
a first to like really fully embrace everything.
Speaker 4 (17:25):
Just because Rio was.
Speaker 1 (17:25):
So new and I didn't know anybody and I never
I'd never been in a meat like that before. And
then Tokyo was weird because there weren't fans and we
couldn't really gather or have fun.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah, yeah, it's weird.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
It's really cool being able to stay in a village
where there are people from literally everywhere in the world.
You know, I have obviously, like I see a lot
of people from a lot of different countries within the
swimming world, but there are a lot of people that
are competing in track or canoe or you know, basketball,
(17:59):
whatever that you would never see, like I saw yaoming
in the village, Like what was I ever gonna see YAO? Mean,
you know, So it's it's really cool to be able
to like witness the people that are there and that
are also just excited to just be competing in the Olympics. Like,
you know, at least within the swimming community in the US,
we're just stressed out because we just want to swimp
(18:19):
fast and and we're there to with metals. But there
are a lot of people, the majority of people that
are there just there to celebrate their accomplishments and be
able to compete in the Olympics.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
Which is kind of a refreshing viewpoint on it.
Speaker 3 (18:32):
I think, Yeah, it's interesting because you know, US is
just so dominant and swimming. You have countries coming in
who are like, there's no fucking way I'm gonna win.
So I would do my best, but I'm gonna have.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
A great time. Well I'm here.
Speaker 3 (18:48):
Yeah, it's almost this liberating experience because it's.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
Like there's no world where I'm winning. I'm gonna but
so I'm gonna have fun.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Yeah, and they do, and it's it's really cool to
and I hope this happens again because it didn't happen
in Tokyo. But every night in the village, like people
just congregate in the common areas that are pretty much
having a party every night.
Speaker 4 (19:08):
So yeah, it's really cool. It's cool to be able
to celebrate with everybody.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yeah, are there ever you know, obviously team camaraderie is huge,
but is there ever that you know, when you get
enough people together, there's gonna be issues. There's gonna be
people who don't like people. And I mean, does that
happen within a team where it's like, yeah, we're a team,
but you know what, you don't like me, I don't
like you just the way it is, Yeah, I definitely.
Speaker 4 (19:35):
I mean we've got a lot of egos on the team.
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
Exactly that that's being to.
Speaker 3 (19:39):
My next point is like when you're a winner, there
are those big gas egos they can clash.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
You know, yes they do, and.
Speaker 1 (19:49):
Yeah, just a lot of big egos, a lot of
big personalities.
Speaker 4 (19:52):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
You don't get to the pinnacle of the sport and
being the best of the best without I think having
a super a lot of personality a lot of the time.
So yeah, we do have We do have some issues.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Are there, captains, meaning like you as being the elder
States person as you said, it's like, all right, it's
your job now to fucking get these people together. Meaning
if there's some shit going on, it's like, okay, you like,
I know we all have egos, but I've won more
(20:26):
medals than you, I have seniority.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
So here's what we're gonna do. You guys got to
get it together.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
Yeah, yeah, we do have captains sometimes, like you will
have to keep people in check. But the great thing
about swimming is it as much as we're like it's
a team sport, it's not a team sport.
Speaker 2 (20:41):
It's not right.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
Yeah, Like, unless.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
You're on a relay together, if you're gonna fight, you're
gonna fight. It's okay, you know, we all have the
same goal in the end, so as long as you
get your shit done, like.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Who yes, yeah, yeah, yeah, so how many medals? How
many medals do we have here? Where are you at?
What's your medal count?
Speaker 4 (20:58):
Olympic medals?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Medals?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
I have five Olympic medals, so two goal, two silver,
one bronze.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, that is so cool, Oh my gosh. And so
when you go over there, how long are you there
before you actually swim?
Speaker 4 (21:19):
That's a good question. I don't actually know.
Speaker 2 (21:22):
You don't know.
Speaker 1 (21:23):
I'm gonna say probably like a week, a week like
in the village. And then I swum early in the competition,
so I started swimming.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
On day two, Okay.
Speaker 3 (21:32):
So yeah, and then you know, are you guys allowed
to party and have fun? I mean no, it's up
to you your individuals. But is it so focused? You
know where this is the moment and so you're can eat, right,
You're not gonna drink, You're gonna really stay on it right.
Speaker 4 (21:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (21:49):
Well, I'm gonna say it's pretty frowned upon if you
if you begin your end of meat celebrations before the
meat is over, or at least before your roommates are done.
So but yeah, I mean, I'm twenty seven. I'm gonna
enjoy myself once I'm done.
Speaker 2 (22:06):
I'm not gonna.
Speaker 4 (22:06):
I'm not gonna lie and sneak around like maybe I
have in the past.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
But yeah, like it's it's one where you know, what
happens in the village days in the village?
Speaker 2 (22:17):
I think is that a thing?
Speaker 3 (22:19):
Is that like a Yeah, it's like a Vegas five
where it's like, you know, happened the village days in
the village.
Speaker 4 (22:26):
Well, yeah, I think.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
You know, in Tokyo, I don't think they had this,
but I remember in Rio in the in the dining
hall they had condom machines.
Speaker 2 (22:35):
No, no, I know, I read this. I read this.
Speaker 1 (22:38):
Yeah, except they were super loud, right, so anytime anybody
would go get it and it would it would go
all over the everybody what you're doing?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
Everyone looks like, oh, someone's gonna, Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Now I heard that. I heard because the STDs run
ranked in the Olympic Village.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
Like I read something about that where it's like, now
everyone got to be safe, you know.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
Yeah, Well, I think I think a lot of it
is that the athletes are on such a short leash
all the time that when you let go of that leash,
yeah they're gone. So yeah, the village gets gets pretty rowdy.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
I would say, do you live do you everyone lives
in the village. Is that sort of how it works?
Speaker 1 (23:24):
So most everybody lives in the village. It has started
that some of the more high profile athletes and high
profile sports will stay in a hotel outside of the village,
like the US women's national team for soccer has stayed
outside of the village. Men's basketball stays outside of the village.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
So they got to stay on a cruise ship in
Tokyo and we were stuck in dorm rooms.
Speaker 3 (23:45):
Oh really, yeah, I can't I can't imagine like Lebron Lebron,
like you know.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Yeah, yeah, but hey, Michael Phelips always stayed in the village,
so did he there you know everybody? Yep, he was
always in the village because swimming stays in the village.
So he was with us in sixteen.
Speaker 3 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, I actually no, I know, I know Michael
a little bit. He's a he's a really good dude,
you know.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Oh yeah, he's awesome.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Yeah, he's really cool.
Speaker 3 (24:10):
I played golf of them a bunch, and he's, uh,
he's just a.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Good human, you know. Yes, all right, So how's the
team this year? Solid?
Speaker 4 (24:20):
Yeah, I think so, I think we're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:23):
It's in twenty twenty one, we had like six or
seven high schoolers on the team, which was pretty wild,
and all of those high schoolers have grown up, so yeah,
I think we've We've just got three on the team
this year, so it's a very very experienced team.
Speaker 4 (24:41):
I think they're ready to go.
Speaker 1 (24:42):
I think everybody's looking pretty good and camp's been going
really well.
Speaker 4 (24:45):
So yeah, I think I think we're all ready.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
And are you?
Speaker 3 (24:50):
Obviously gold gold, gold, that's the goal, you know, But
will you be satisfied? How will you be satisfied at
the end of this Olympics being your last you know?
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I mean it's.
Speaker 3 (25:03):
Hard not to say gold, gold, gold, But like, do
you in your mind have a goal?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
I think for me, like dream of all dreams. I
want to win the hundred breast again, the Turner breast.
Speaker 4 (25:16):
The girls have gotten a lot faster than they have
been in the past few years.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Which kind of sucks. But if I could just meddle
in that, that'd be awesome. And then the medley relay,
I would like I would like to win again.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Ye we.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
I was on the prelim's relay last time, and we
ended up getting silver. But that's that's a relay, Like
I just have such a pride in that relay and
we've been we've been really dominant in it the last
few years. So that, Yeah, two golds I think would
be like the ultimate dream.
Speaker 3 (25:47):
The ultimate who's your main who's in the hundred, who's
your main competition?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
So there's a Chinese swimmer that just went just shy
of my world record, but a lot of the time
to time, the slimmers swimmer really really fast at Chinese
nationals and then don't repeat.
Speaker 4 (26:04):
It when they get to the big meat.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
So her and then Ruta my Latita won world championships
last year. She's Lithuanian. She should be really good, ready
to go. She actually won Olympic gold in twenty twelve
at fifteen. We're the same age, so that's kind of crazy. Yeah,
she should be. She should be on and ready to go.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
I think, do you get to swim against these girls
like throughout the year in worlds or you know, I mean,
or is this like one time like boom, hey, how
are you let's go?
Speaker 4 (26:34):
Yeah? It usually once a year, so yeah, it's it's
kind of intense.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (26:40):
And then there's another cup African swimmer. She won the
silver in the hunter breast in Tokyo and golden the
two and her brushstroke Tachiana Smith, And she's a lovely human.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I love her to death, but I don't want to beat.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
Me, that's what you say.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
Do you have relationships with some of these, you know,
other athletes that aren't American?
Speaker 2 (26:58):
I mean, do you connect and keep in touch?
Speaker 4 (27:02):
Yeah? Definitely.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
We do have some meets like throughout the year occasionally,
like if people do World Cups, you get to, I
guess meet people and and uh and make friends when
we're less serious competitions. But yeah, I would say I
have some friends from from other places, but not usually
people that some of my races.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Do you have an idea when you do hang up
the gogs? What what you might be doing? I mean,
are you do you have you? Do you have a plan?
Speaker 1 (27:31):
I don't super have a plan. And I'm so excited
about that.
Speaker 2 (27:36):
Great, right? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I think my life has been so so planned out
for the last ten years that ye. Yeah, I think
I'm gonna not do anything. I'm gonna do a lot
of clinics. I love doing clinics.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
I love.
Speaker 1 (27:49):
I love being able to reach as many club teams
and young swimmers as possible. That's kind of something that
really warms my heart. So and I make good money
doing it, so I think that's that's something I'll probably
do and just hanging out the rest of the time.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
So how do you so, how do you make money?
Like how does this work? Just you know, and how
much do you make it here? And I'm kidding how
much like how much? Like how do you make your
money as an Olympic athlete? You personally?
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Right? Yeah, so I'm I'm definitely one of the more
fortunate ones because typically if I would say, if you're not.
Speaker 4 (28:25):
Meddling at World through the Olympics.
Speaker 1 (28:28):
You're probably gonna have to get another job to live comfortably.
But yeah, so you I would say, first start off
making money with prize money. So depending on where you
place you get, you get a pay out. And then
on top of that, I'll have it like I have
a swimsuit sponsorship with Tear and then they will they
(28:49):
pay out another base plus incentive money off of those finishes.
So it is mostly like based off of how you
finish it at whatever meat that's that's good to be
the big thing, and then other little little.
Speaker 4 (29:02):
Sponsored things here and there. Yeah, a lot of Instagram.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
And then if you're top I want to say, top
eight or top sixteen in the world, then U say
swimming will also.
Speaker 4 (29:14):
Pay you a small base, right.
Speaker 1 (29:16):
So yeah, it's like picking and choosing from a lot
of things.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
Yeah, oh great, Well this has been so fun.
Speaker 3 (29:23):
I'm I'm I feel like I'm sort of talking to
a celebrity now, you know, because I'm going to watch
well now I'm going to watch the Olympics and being
like I know her, come on, you know what I mean,
Like I'm excited. I cannot wait. I cannot wait. I'm
an Olympic fan just generally. I love the Olympics. So
I will be watching and rooting and when you win,
(29:49):
you know, I just need some sort of a signal,
you know, maybe like like something like this, or maybe
like a yeah, like I like the head scratch. Yeah,
so I'll be looking for that.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (30:02):
I never I will say, I never know what I'm
gonna do. I try to always have some sort of
some sort of celebration because you got to make it
interesting for TV, right.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
Yeah, yeah, oh do you so? So do you have
a little celebraty.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean, you do.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
I'll do whatever. I'll snack the water, I think as
as I gave it a little.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
Come on, give me some Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, I
never know what's coming.
Speaker 3 (30:22):
Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I can't wait. I can't wait. Thanks so much for hanging.
I appreciate it. And good luck, and uh I will
be watching.
Speaker 4 (30:31):
Yes, of course, thanks for chatting. I had fun.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Yeah, fun, fun, all right, see you later.
Speaker 4 (30:35):
Cool.
Speaker 2 (30:35):
See yeah, yeah, it's crazy. I was as I was talking,
I was, I was talking to her.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
I was like, this is so cool because now you
know I don't I don't know any of the Olympians really,
I mean aside from like Michael Phelps or whatever. You're
just rooting for your for your country. So now I
have some skin in the game. Some skin in the game.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
It's fun.
Speaker 3 (31:01):
Go you to say, let's get all right, I'm out,
I'm out, I'm gonna go.
Speaker 2 (31:07):
I'm gonna go jump in the river.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
I'm gonna go jump in the river and become a
magical freshwater dolphin.
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