June 5, 2025 • 63 mins
The stars have aligned, and our favorite siblings are not ‘Dancing with the Stars,’ but ready to listen to them!
The AstroTwins are here to hint to why Kate and Oliver are the way they are.
New moons, super moons, and mercury retrogrades…Kate is convinced
astrology holds the answers to some of life’s biggest questions.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How was NAPA?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I wish you were there? I know it was so
much you know what, we should have brought everybody, all
the boys, big boys.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Give me a quick rundown.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was just the best and I had so much
fun and I just it was like I loved every
second of it. And I was super prepared for like
a lot of green to like just see people like
wandering around like not listenings.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Right, yeah, I was like, you know what, it's one thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm going to go there. But it was absolutely packed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It was like I was so like shocked and great
and happy and it just felt like really good energy
and it was just like it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was like, oh my god, I brought in a crowd.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It was really fun and like and then it was
great and I got to see so many people and
that I haven't seen a while and.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
How was the hang performance. It was fun awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I have so much to tell you. It was so
much fun. I mean, we went out late.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
We went out to see like, you know, Billy Joe
from Green Day, like did a cover thing. We went
out there to like really late. Then we ended up
going back to like it was like so much fun.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, I was over there. I was so crazy. It's fishing.
I don't know what I was doing. It was too much.
It was the kids, this mortal day whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I loved it. I didn't have any care. I had
like Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It was like me Ronnie Danny with so much fun.
And oh my friends, now listen, I am so excited
about this. Forget my weekend, forget your weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, but we get a reading.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We were so excited.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think as Kate considers herself an oracle, we like
the oracles.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
As I would consider It's not a consideration. It's like,
what do you mean I could do? Okay, well, well
let's ask astro twins.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
But anyway, yes, the astro twins. We get to are
astrological charts.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We get to have a conversation with them.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was so exciting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yay, hi, hey, we are so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is like my favorite thing in the world to do.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, this is very exciting because, first of all, you know,
we have been living in this space since we were
born because our mother is very much into this, psychics, astrology,
all of it. So I have made some of my
biggest life decisions based on.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
No, hopefully that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, she she feels like she's more of a sage,
but I think she's more of a Scorpio.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, she's right on that that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I had my chart done a long time ago.
Different and Ra cash Rakesh. Yes, and apparently I'm a virgo,
but I was more Libra in my chart.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Than do you have a lot of Libra?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, so much.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know what any of this means, but I
know what you will. I'm so means liberated, right, so
I'm liberating.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
How did you both get into this?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
When did this start? For you?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
God?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I mean, we had a paper route together, speaking of
siblings when we were teenagers, and we'd have to open
the middle of the newspaper to put like little coupons in,
and we wanted to win a prize, so the horoscopes
were in the middle of the newspaper, and we did
win the prize actually, so.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's kind of cheating, but you know, nine like a
Detroit News contest.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
But then in college, my boyfriend got my chart done,
which were four minutes apart, so same difference Tolly's chart too, and.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I was like, whoa, what's the heck? How does this
know so much about us?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And we just got obsessed started doing all our friends' charts.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And now how do you read? Are do you do?
You have a certain method to how you read? You know,
is there a.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Tuning into it's a predictive natal plus transits. But you know,
we put your time date and place of birth in
to our little handy dandy calculator and then we get
a map of the sky when you were born. Basically,
you know, the chart looks like a twelve slice pizza essentially,
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and the pizza crust, as we call it, is basically
the sky divided into twelve Each zodiac sign gets an
equal slice of the monopoly board. So you know, from
our vantage point on Earth, you know, Oliver, the sun
was in the Virgo pizza slice when you were born.
In Kate, the sun was in the aries pizza slice.
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But we also look at every other planet, you know,
planet and heavenly body, the Moon, and then.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Mercury, Mars Venus.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So in astrology, our way of looking at it is
your birth chart is the map of the movie of
your life. The planets are the cast. You know, if
you've ever done internal family systems therapy parts work, which
we love, we think astrology is a lot like that
because every planet you're not just your Sun's signed, your Moon,
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your Mercury, so you can pull the levers on each
of them, but they'll all wind up in a different
zodiac sign based on your time of birth, and that's
kind of like the costume. But the planet is wearing
like the Sun is your main character, so it'll be
wearing Aries or Virgo.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
The moon is like your.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Best supporting and that's swearing Capricorn or Pisces. So it
really we all have the same cast, but they're wearing
different costumes based on when you were born. So interpreting
that for people and then looking at where the planets
are in relation to that, now you can just you
can just unfold so much and if that made any sense.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So much information.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There's also like I like looking at the hemispheres and
how heavy things lay into certain hemispheres.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And also I love the nodes like I got the nodes.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
The nodes are like because I'm a Virgo North node,
which is wild, which makes so much sense in this
part of my life right now, which is really interesting.
But anyway, wait.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
A minute, no, no, no, look, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I never dive head first into much and there is
skepticism and everything that I do. I like you, but
I do believe, you know, I I believe in bigger energy,
you know I do. But but just historically, how did
astrology and charting sort of come about?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Number one? And then number two?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How much of it is analytics and how much of
it is intuition?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh that's great, great questions.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Well, it's been around since the ancient Babylonians and Chaldeans
and then the Greeks developed the house system, so you know,
it was in the Middle Ages the astronomers and the
astrologers were one and the same, like Galileo and Copernicus
were astrologers. Yeah, so it wasn't It wasn't really eye
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rolled until the seventeen hundreds when because the Church got
so superstitious about everything, and then the kind of rationalists
stepped in and you know, scorned anything spiritual and then
the yeah, so we're just you know if you really go.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that burned us all at the state we came back.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
How know, how do we know that that it is accurate?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know what I'm saying, Like it's a weird question.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah, Virgo gem you used Virgo word analytics, which is
you know what, how do you know?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
How do we're still in.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
The hypothesis stage right now until we discovered this is
all SIMS test and this is a sign code. But
I feel like how do scientists create their hypotheses.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They study, They get a data pool.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
So we've got you know, got it thousands of years
of okay during this time of year. This is constellation
was once in the sky, but this is this geometrical
slice of the sky is here on the horizon.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So this is it's just been studied and studied.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
There's also when you're sort of born.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
With that thing that you are kind of afraid to say,
like I think I have a certain kind of intuition
or things happened to me that like people who you
would say are like you know, the or the doctors
would say, well, that's leaning towards schizophrenia, or that's leaning
if you're hearing noises or if you're hearing people talking
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to you, that could be considered something crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But when you when you sort of are.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Born into it and you know you're not crazy, you're like, no,
this is actually Eventually, I think we're going to find
out that they're something incredibly scientific about it.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And I just spent a whole drive listening to the
telepathy tapes.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Oh oh, I.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Cried for how I just couldn't stop crying because it
makes so much sense to me.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
For a little backstory, we did not mean to have
this career. We went to the University of Michigan, I
almost went to engineering school.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
We went to arts school.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
But astrology kind of found us just out of a
curiosity of like trying to figure out the guys we
were trying to date or friends or whatever, you know,
just as like huh. But then we started to see
patterns and like, there's more to it than this.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, and hit a lot of weird Yeah, and you
do it together. Yeah, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Gosh, I've been doing it for thirty years now. So
I was like, oh my god, Holly, check out this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Thirty are living live together?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
No, No, we're on is it Coast? I'm in Seattle,
but I go to New York all the time. We
actually have.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Two apartments in New York City across the hall from
each other. That like, yeah, when we go there, we
you know, it's very our future Gray gardens.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And do you read do you read the charts together
and kind of like rap about it?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Do you kind of, oh, for sure?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, Like I mean we have we split up our
clientele usually because we have a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's too much too Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No, it's like, so your charts are exactly the same.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
One tiny difference, so like yeah, just like a one
degree difference.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
The sign that rules our roomance house and our friendship
house is like Taurus scorpio minds Gemini said, which is
good because we've always liked a different type of guy.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And that kind of really, but before we get into us,
you know, it's just so interesting as identical twins doing
your charts and having pretty much the exact same stuff
with the exception of a few but have as sort
of using yourself as test subjects, do you notice that
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everything else is pretty much spot on or do some
things deviate where you're like, oh, this is supposed to
be this given our chart, but you're over here and
I'm over here.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I mean that the signs can express themselves in different ways.
So when a transit will happen, which is astro geek
speak for a planet moving through a different part of
your chart, like Jupiter, the planet of abundance, was in
our fourth house, motherhood home, and she got knocked up
and as her daughter and I moved to the other
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side of the country.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
So you know, we can like, but the energies.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Will influence us at the same time, but they don't
always influence in the same way. Yes, we're good test
subjects for this. Yeah, fun like check on twins.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think we.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Yeah, we will experience those cycles similarly, but just in
our own way. And you know, I think you know,
there's free will. I believe in past lives now from
all the charts I've looked at, so you know, and
just nature.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And can you tell it? Can you like, say, what
kind of past lives we had? Can you the north
so excited.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
When I read cards like I because I've been reading
themselves since I was nineteen. But when I read, like,
I never I've never been a negative. There's nothing nothing
about how I read is goes negative. Yeah good, yeah,
you know, do you know what I'm saying? You know,
you go to those tradings and people are like, you know,
this is going to be challenging, this is going to
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be a difficult time in your life.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
When people do that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You don't do that because you don't and everybody has challenges,
it's a different thing. I see them as like blocked,
these like blocked energy ways. Like if you see something
that kind of feels like it's challenging, it's like something's blocking,
and then you can go a little bit deeper and
find out like what is actually underneath it, And that's exciting.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
When do you get you're like ready to take on
a new phase of evolution, Like life isn't supposed to
be stagnant for most of us, I mean at least
the most interesting people out there, you know, Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I've asked the psychics that I've seen because you know,
even with my therapists, when I go to therapy, like
I usually there's moments where I'm asking them about their
lives and like this is not a.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Session for me.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I got curious. So I'm always asking, I like, what
if you reading someone who's gonna die at like forty eight?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
You know what I mean, I don't even look for that.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm like, don't even saying do you see that? Maybe
you guys, But some of them like yeah. I was like,
well how do you handle I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Some astrologers do.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
There are prediction give techniques that some astrologers use for
seeing when someone may die, but I choose not to go.
There are not those astrologies.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
It's like that's not really interesting to me.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I feel like I also feel like that's part of
a contract that the soul makes.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Before we come here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So it's not for me to play god like that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I agree, But there's a gap in the business. Maybe
I will fill that gap. Maybe I will just be
the astrology astrologists of death.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
There are certain people that are really good with like health,
so like that's like medical astrology. Yeah, like there you know.
And it's like almost like everybody has their thing, you know,
and or has or just has a stronger connection to
certain things. Like people will say, like like Maria, for instance,
but she's great with health and she can say like, hey,
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what's going on with your friend with her stomach, you know,
and then she can say like, it's gonna be hard
and chat like she so she won't say like she's gonna,
you know, die, but she will say that it's gonna
be a process, and she's usually very accurate.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
That's helpful because you can go then get whatever screening
you need to get, like in that case, you know,
I think as long as you're giving, that's that's what
people do want to know.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Should I be worried about this, well, they'll ask us, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Maria has been worried about Oliver's liver since like ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Here's here's the grainest salt you have to take with
every He's like, my.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Liver is fucking I know, it's a beautiful liver.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
All right, Cool, let's go. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Okay, Well, we should talk about the nodes.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I think our brand of astrology is really life purpose,
life path, that's what.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
We really like.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We're sagittarians, so we're very optimistic, you know. But the
one thing that you, Oliver, I don't know if you
know you're big three Kate, I'm sure you do. But
so the sun, the moon, and the rising sign, those
are like that's the lingo now is your big three.
So the sun is kind of how you shine in
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the world. The moon is the part of you that
the private part, the best supporting and what you really
need to feel nurtured. And then your rising sign is
like the tint. Like if your sun's sign makes you blue,
your rising sign.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Will make you powder blue or navy blue.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's kind of how you project. So you are your
Virgo with an Aries rising and a Pisce's moon. So
ah yeah, so Aries rising, so you come across like
a confident Aries sometimes or a little you know, you
know how to puff up as needed. But the moon,
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which is the inner you and Pisces is actually very sensitive.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, the Pisces moon really absorbs.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You're kind of like this sponge for.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Everyone around you. Your chart is so the Libra. So
the personal planets are Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Venus.
But so you have Mercury, Mars, Venus, which our love communication,
as well as Pluto, which is kind of the evolving
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shadow part of you, all clustered together in Libra. So
that's where that super libra energy, so that's where that
interest in other people comes in.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Also could be very very challenging.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Sometimes to where they are in your chart.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
The sixth house, which is the Virgo, so you want
to connect, but you also will You're you have sort
of an you're an idealist when it comes to people,
and sometimes one wrong move can disappoint you. You also
are probably very hard on yourself, so after you meet someone,
you can go back, why did I say that?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Like kind of the voices in your head.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
The post game debrief might be a little harsh there too.
And Saturn in the chart shows Saturn's like the ass
kicking personal trainer that'll like make you do the burpies,
make you go to boot camp. But like as you
go through life, it really shows where you develop mastery.
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So you have Saturn and Leo, which is funny because
that's like the Hollywood sign in the fifth house, the
Hollywood House.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So it's like it's almost like this like part of
you that like wants to resist you know, the whole.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
La scene in some ways, and like you know, but
you feel like I have to do this with depth,
with strength, with like this and that actually sometimes shows
like somebody who is famous a little later.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
In life too.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
With that, and you have the special shape called a
yad in your chart, the finger of fate.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yacht. I don't know about yachts.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Okay, yeah, it's like the pointer. So there's one.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It's like a triangle shape, kind of like a witch hat.
So two planets that are what are called sextile to
each other, meaning they're friendly, but they're in uh, they're
both in a challenging angle to one that they're pointing at.
So there you have Saturn and so you actually have
a few of them. All the Libra planets point into
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your moon, so your moon is basically stressed out and
a prince I think Prince had two yachts.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Diana had yacht. So you can feel like you're part
of the special tortured souls.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh my god, this makes so much sense.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
And with theiss which is in your twelfth house, which
is the house of deep subconscious stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean but god, Dad like did such a number
on you two, So it's just like double whammy.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's like, oh yeah, your chart and then the disappointment,
like so soon.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Can't well, I feel like you came into this lifetime
to real like, I feel like you've had a lot
of lifetimes where everything was just kind of calm, status quo,
and you didn't fully appreciate it or feel you felt
a little like flat. So this lifetime you really chose
to come in for some intensity. Kate was talking about
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the north and south notes of the moon. I don't worry,
We're getting to you, Kate. Of course, Hey, Jamaican aries, Okay,
it's okay, I'm working on all those, right. So, yeah,
the these two points in the chart there opposite points.
They're based on where the eclipses were happening closest to
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your time of birth. And this is how Kabbalistic astrology works.
It mostly looks at these points.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
The south node reveals.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Your past life, what you or what you come into
this life having natural facility around, but your purpose in
this lifetime pulls you in the other direction. So you
came in with a Taurus south node. Taurus in the
first house, so it's like the first house was first born, right,
So it was like, yeah, all about you and all
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your you know, in your earliest years.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, and you wanted to kill me when I showed up.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Literally really well, you're you have right now next to
your south notes, I there's other planets or placements next
to it. They're influencing it. So you have Chiron the
wounded healer and Black Moon Lilith, which is kind of
this belonging wound. So like your past life brings in
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this desire to like be a healer, but also to
like find a way like you choosing yourself, even if
that means kind of exiling yourself from the values of
the people around you. So like you know, your north node,
what you're here to grow into and learn, is in
Scorpio and the seven thousand relationships. So that's where probably
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where oh where was getting his like oohs.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
You know, yeah, the uh you know together with.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well also you know, back to your south in Taurus,
like I think you liked things a certain way Taurus,
like certainty and things not to change and so but
you had too much of that, like she's like Tolly
send in your past lives, so you you were you're
meant to learn how to flow with change. But your
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north note is where you have these lessons that especially
the first one really is abrupt. And you have Uranus,
the planet of surprises. There's no good way to say
that planet, So I chose.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
The fancy way.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Uh, together with your north note and Scorpio in the
seventh House of Partnerships. So probably when Kate was born
or when your parents divorced or whatever.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
It was so shocking.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
It shook you out of this kind of belief that
you were walking around with it like well, this is
just how everything is always going to be. And so
when things change, especially in your relationships, it like spins
you out.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This makes me want to cry.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, changed changed, but you're.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Getting so much better at it, Like you're even like
going You're just going on.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, you're just going on location. Like when I had
a guy, it would qrush me abandon my family. Yeah,
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Or even like going fad for years.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm like, come to Europe, come with me, Come, and
he would just be like okay, yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Trust south no needs that like stability, that comfort, that
rounded home base. Yes, and then's moon at the pointer
of the yacht is also in your twelve test, which
is a theme of guilt and like sort of this
fear that you'll be lost at sea if you separate
from your people too much.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But that's actually something.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
It's it's probably a belief from past lifetimes that you
could start to challenge. And I'm sure you have through
some of the things that you've done and you're healing work.
I would love your may Embellic Kauffman.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
It's cool. That was a great interview. Yeah, now I
want to do it. If you guys ever looked at
human design at all.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I love human I'm upset. I love it.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, it's like astrology on steroids, So we won't go
too far into it. But what I did see is
Oliver is the type projector.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
So course, yeah, and you're not so I think you're
a generator.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Like yeah, so projectors are supposedly came into being when
the planet Uranus was discovered in seventeen eighty one.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But it's this new type of soul and they have.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
To They're often overlooked because they're supposed to wait to
be invited into situations, and when they try to push
into a situation or be seen like, they get this
energetic resistance and they can become bitter because what happens.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
They're like, why.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Doesn't I know the answer, I know how to help.
I'm ready, I'm here. Why doesn't anyone see me? So
what they learn in their lifetimes is how to kind
of create this aura to magnetize people to them instead
of trying to be picked.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
So we want to give him how to pick girl.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
By the way, all my kids are projectors, Like daughter is.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Even leave the house.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I was like, oh, there it all like it started
to make sense. I was like looking into all of it,
and I think, Kurt, I think my dad is a manifestor.
I think so I could be wrong, but I think
he's a manifestor, which is I think a really Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, projectors means that you why the word project or?
Are you projecting?
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I think people project things onto you. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Like I'm still, you know, still learning more about human design.
But what I do know is that it's a smaller
percentage of the population. So you live in a world
where we're most generators, which is people that are always
like go, go go, and projectors try.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
To keep up and get exhausted.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
They need to actually rest and step aside and sleep
till noon every now and then, or just get the
hell away from all the pressure.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, amazing, exactly it's literally me every morning, exactly,
I'm up. I'm screaming literally every including Danny, my partner,
who are all projectors.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I got.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He had the day off today. I'm like, it's one o'clock.
I'm like, get up. Yeah, she's a tductor. She needs
to sleep, but she probably also stayed up all night.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Wait, I've got a date for you, and I've got
one for you too, Kate.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
But a date to know is April fourteenth, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Saturn will have will cross.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So the very beginning of your chart, which is the
eastern horizon, if you're to look at the sky, that's
where you're ascendant, your rising sign of April April fourteen,
it's twenty twenty seven, Saturn will cross your ascendant and
move into your first house right now it's yeah, Oliver's,
and that'll be.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's in your twelfth house.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
So you're really putting up a lot of boundaries probably
right now, like really clearing out things like the next
couple of years.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
It's like, no, no, no, this doesn't work for me.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
This does these other conditions setting up the right conditions
to thrive. But what I see happens a lot when
the when Saturn crosses the Ascendant and it moves into
the first house, like people really step out and like
establish themselves in this whole new way, and it starts
this twenty nine year cycle. So like there's a lot
of maybe healing, forgiving, releasing, just studying with mentors, psychedelic journeys.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah at all all that, you know, Yeah, shedding all
those old beliefs and letting yourself.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Like your family's gonna be fine if you take, if
you do something without them. Because the thing is, your
north note is like a new language and your south
note is like your native language. So you know, when
you start to learn a new language, you tend to
like overenunciate the words and everything. So in relationships you
go overboard with them and almost into codependence. Sometimes maybe
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not anymore, but you did. But there's always going to
be this like wait, I gotta overgive or overfunction. Wait
I gotta get away. So so that's just something to
work on your whole really for the rest give yourself
the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
But this July is also really big for you.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Oliver for money or a worst project, Yeah yeah, uronnest
the plan to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Keep having to say is going to go over your Jupiter.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
You're just this past year has been like a big
I don't know if you had new thoughts about how.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You're using your money making it. Have you been writing
or doing anything?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Like? Yes, the answer is yes, I'm proacing more now.
You know, I'm definitely thinking of how to you know,
sort of branch out more. As far as just being
an actor. It's not lucrative enough, you know, especially in
how and you make the businesses right.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Now, the great money line with that Scorpio North node
like actually even crypto or technology. And I also see
like maybe some script writing directly, maybe a streaming or
online kind of series. I don't know, something along those lines.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I like when I hear writing, it's all I want to.
I want to writing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
All of this makes sense, you know, because again it's this,
it's this feeling. And I always say this to Kate.
There so much talent that I feel like I have.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
There's so much potential that I know that I have
as a creative person, you know, and I get discouraged.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I get a d d'd out.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I even when I was young, I would start something
and if it got too hard, I.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Would quit rising yep.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
You know, like like it's just like, oh my god,
it's too overwhelming. Fucket No, I'll go fish. I'll go fishing,
I'll go hang out, I'll go read a book, you.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Like that's much more enjoyable than Okay, I've got an
idea for a script.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm gonna do it. None of that for you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
You can't do that. Yeah, it's all pick me girling.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
No, yeah, it's that's been my problem.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I think Okay, I think you're gonna behind though.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, I'll just say it's okay. Like comfort is really
important for you. It south node like and the values
are you need?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like you need like a blankye, you need like your
little writing blankie.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I know you get a blank.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
There's also a string usually a perfectionist quality that I
have that I can't just vomit it out and be like,
let me just write this fucking thing, but I don't
care how bad it is, and I can go fix
it for me.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's like it's not perfect. I'm done.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, that's that's all the planets in your sixth house,
which is the Virgo house, the Lea. That's the idealism,
the perfectionism, like one wrong move. So there's one part
of you that's like a little bit lazy and entitled,
and then there's another part of you that's like, it
feels like you're not worth it?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Can you? Can you say that one more time? Please?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just need that that.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I just need that. It's like an affirmation for me.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It couldn't be more true. There's a definite lazy part
of you. And I haven't. I an't titled, is like,
why is this ship happening to me? Like I'm the best.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Saturn Saturn and Leo in the fifth house rising, and.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah there's a lot of Now Kate doesn't have a
lazy bone in her body, I would say no, Like
Ari's Sun up in the tenth house, Capricorn, Moon and
a cancer rising.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So that's interesting too. You have what's called a.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
T square when planets make this exact sort of like
an L shape.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's like a triang.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah, it's like a it's missing one point. So your
Sun and Moon and Jupiter are all at twenty nine degrees.
I don't know if you ever looked at the degrees before.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, that's rare. It's called the anoretic degree it's kind
of like having a yacht in the way.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
It's very So every sign in the pizza crust is
thirty degrees when we go zero to twenty nine, So
if anything's like that, that twenty ninth degree, it's like
holding all this energy.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So your Ari's Sun, you're just about a Taurus. So yeah, your.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Ari's Sun at twenty nine degrees is like the very
end of this like powerhouse warrior energy. Then you're a
Capricorn moon, like you can really detach when you need
to and get the job done.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
And then you have Jupiter in cancer.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Jupiter's abundance and cancer is like this nurturing motherly energy.
So it's like you can just go like full mama
bear full, like balls to the wall. I've got the
script memorized boom, you know, whatever needs to happen. You're
like stepping up as the leader. The missing point would
(35:35):
be twenty nine degrees libra. So it's interesting that Oliver
has all that libra, so he kind of comes.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
In and fills in for you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I love that he like does Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Libra forgets sometimes to be like person, like no, you
don't just take care, let's cooperate let's work together, like
you know, not that you're not a romantic. I love
to call her daddy interview. How you mentioned being in
aries a few times? And then she didn't even quite
understand us.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Like come on, you're a leo, Like get talk she
is a leo.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I yeah, I was like waiting for her to like
talk about being a fire sign with you. Yeah, you
didn't take the bait. We'll get her, We'll get.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Her on it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, but that libra energy, I don't know, just how
do you see that?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Like do you see a place where you kind of
could fill in a little more balance and partnership for yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I think that's like what I.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Have been learning and probably the last seven six seven years.
I turn into like a racehorse that like doesn't stop
unless someone's like stop yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Which is a very generator.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Also in human design, you you just go, go, go,
So you're supposed to actually wait before you just respond
to something, because no matter what it is, you'll once
you decide you're doing it, you're throwing yourself at it,
and then you can get frustrated if it's not the
right fit. So with your aries, Sun being in this
tug of war with your cancer moon. It's like your
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inner and outer self are at war sometimes, so you're
very dutiful and you don't want to disappoint anyone, but
then you could over promise or something like that, or
just be like what did I just say yes too?
And yeah, So that's like that's something that you learn.
Also with your Piscy's South node in the ninth house,
(37:30):
which is the abundant, worldly, optimistic kind of like dream
I can do this, like you'll get swept up in
the moment. And then your Virgo North node in the
third house. It's like you're kind of learning, like all right,
how does this fit into my day to day? There's
you know your I hate when people say you have
the same twenty four hours in the day is so
(37:53):
and so, But you are definitely someone who can make
twenty four hours seem like a year. What you can
get a lot more done than the average mortal. But
you know you also have Saturn and Virgos, so that's
the tension in your life. Like this is the thing
about what I love about astrology. It's like it doesn't
all fit together, like this neat puzzle. There are parts
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of you that do not really sync up with other ones,
so you have to kind of decide which one is
going to run the show in this situation. So you
have these virgo parts that want to organize and calendar
and schedule and clean the base boards, and then you
have these other parts that want to do these big
dreams out in the world, and you know, you're.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Just trying to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Are always they're always at war.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
When you just stop in the middle of like you know,
reading something and clean a base board sometimes.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Just for like it's meditative, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, I'll just like be in the middle having it.
That's how I procrastinate.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'll like I'll be like having to read something, or
I'll be reading even my favorite book. I'll be like
I'll see my like you know, a box in my
office and be like going to clean that thing.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, can cancer up, I'll do that.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
There are also this is like a really amazing time
to be an aries because two outer planets have just
moved into aries, one for the first time in one
hundred and sixty five years Neptune and one for the
first time in thirty years, Saturn. So you're so Mercury
is how you communicate your mercury is one degree aries,
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so you are going to feel like this whole new
way of expressing yourself. And I don't know if you've
already been getting like tons of artistic downloads, well, you're
you're doing music and Neptuneictune. Neptune is going to be
hovering on top of your mercury for a couple of years,
and sat it's just there.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah, so this whole new way of expressing yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
The world is getting this blessing of Neptune's imagination, creativity, boundlessness,
but Saturn's discipline and structure. Saturn and Neptune don't always
travel together because Neptune moves so much slower. It takes
one hundred and sixty five years to go through all
the signs and Saturn takes twenty nine. So they've been
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syncd up in Pisces for the last few years. So
that's already like the last year has probably been mega
creative because your venus and Pisces is getting hit by
both of those and you've probably, I imagine, been in
the studio.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And doing a lot of creativity.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I've found it not even just the studio, but just
the resurgence of TV shows, of.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
The movies, music and yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Busy, busy. Ye.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Honestly, to speak for my sister, I think she's getting finally,
in my opinion, getting back to her creativity because business
took over a little bit too much in my opinion
for her. Yeah, in the movies and the TV was
kind of sporadic, and the music wasn't there yet, and
then boom, something shifted and it's been creative, creative, creative.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
I think that was like late twenty twenty three, Saturn
went out of your eighth house, which is all about
business and investors. You probably a lot of investors you
had to answer to or behold into. No crypto though, yeah, well.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Some kind of yeah yeah, well yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeah, the hate coins coming out, don't buy that mean coin,
the mean coin.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Oh my god, my god.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
But now so it's my mask.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, Saturn is in your ninth house, which rules sports.
Funny enough, so you had the you know, interest, It
isn't that wild.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So that is awesome.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
That's crazy, I know.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Like, did you ever really think you'd do something like
that right like that? I know, it's I know what
I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I was so happy.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, and it's gonna you've got that for a while,
so it's gonna be fun for you to keep doing that.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Yeah, but oh I saw one thing.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
There was a date that I wanted to tell you,
which is June twenty six, twenty twenty six, okay, is
the date of your Jupiter return. So every twelve years
Jupiter hits the same twelve to thirteen years, hits the
same spot it was in when you were born. So
the last time that happened was like probably June twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Look a look at summer twenty fourteen.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
That was the last time Jupiter was close to twenty
nine gree is cancer, Okay, So yeah, Jupiter is actually
moving into cancer on June ninth. So you can take
the whole year if you want, as your Jupiter return.
But because it's what that powerful karmic twenty ninth degree,
that's that exact moment will be a year from now
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year and some change, so you're kind of and it's
going to be crossing. It's still in your twelfth house.
So I don't know what if there's something coming out
next year that you're working on that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Could be musical, too.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah, but even this year when Jupiter's in the twelfth house,
I feel like where it is now for you, like
so like so many people wind up like winning oscars
when they have Jupiter in the twelfth or like awards,
like I think.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Beyonce went like, oh my god, solo and she Jupiter
in the twelve.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I mean, there's just I don't know Jupiter, like both
of you have some twelfth House action, which like astrologers
who are very analytical hate the twelfth house. Astrologers who
are intuitive like us ef In love the twelfth house.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Exactly what is the twelve house again.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
The very last house.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
So there's the deposite energy of Virgo. It's very not
structured or analytical. It's manifesting.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
It's like it's like, okay, that defied scientific explanation.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, so very exalting.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Let's bring abundant and Saturn is structured. So it's kind
of like Kate gets.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Go out there, go far and wide with the Wou
and the man and Oliver.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
You just need more like a practice like taking one
step at a time, like repeating a practice to really
this is a great time to re pattern any fear
neural pathways and resistant neural pathways that you have like
hypnote therapy, EMDR, psychedelics, all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
We're actually in the process, Ollie and I am looking
at our brains.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, we're cool looking. Absolutely you should do that.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
It's a great time to be in Aries. You've got
Neptune there for fifteen years. SA Saturn is a little
bit of an ass kicker. It's like gonna make you
work hard to slow down and like take your time.
Like I have an Aries friend who's like, maybe I
should take twelve months to do the thing that I
usually try to do in a day.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I was.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
I was like, yeah, that's probably a good idea, So
give yourself a longer timeline. The South node right now
is actually in virgo until next summer. So for you, Oliver,
there is some more soul searching.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
And that kind of stuff to do. It's not to
say you can't find me doing it. Kate's in her
nodle opposition.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
So the south node is where the north node was,
and then so every eighteen years you have your nodal
return and then your opposition. So when you're nine you
have your first nodal opposition. I mean the north notes
where the south node was when you were born, and
the south node was where the north node was. So
it's flipped and the first north node return when they
come back to where they were when you were born,
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happens at eighteen or so. So it's like when you
go away from the fam a stafe or go down
to the basement. But you're still like, f you, I'm
doing things my way. You know, I'm breaking out of
the comfort zone. But then nine years after you like,
you have your so you're in your your nodle opposition now.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
So it's like a time of balancing.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
It's like, how do I bring this virgo work ethic
in with this pisces flow? How do I, you know,
bring this intangible dreaminess into some kind.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Of structured state.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Who do I not want to be anymore? What are
the rules I've ever?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know why I love this.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
I feel like I should say that you guys might
write a book together about your lives.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh I like it.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
Yeah, So I don't know. I just felt that sort
so it could be a joint project.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, okay, okay, we're not doing anything else.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
That's right. There's big money, it is, there's right, but
you'll write everything. Yeah right, yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Were they called? The witch hats? What were they called?
So can you just explain those again quickly? Like what
if they are?
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah, there's two planets that are kind of cooperating, but
they're both in this stressed angle to wan. So there's
there's it's called the finger of fate. You know people
who have a bar mitzvah when they use the pointer
to read the tour. I'm sure you went to plenty
of those growing up in La. You know, the thing
they used to read the scrolls. It's called the yads.
(47:39):
So yeah, it's a very it's a very sacred kind
of point. So whatever it's pointing to is uh takes
on really great importance.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
So the yards are pointing to the moon and again and.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Hat.
Speaker 8 (47:59):
Yeah, and we should show you some visuals, you know,
I have them all like here, So it means that
that's like like like how it's like if you were
to if you were to give the.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yadd it with his with with his with it pointing
to the moon and Pisces, like what would be the
elevator pitch?
Speaker 6 (48:18):
Okay, I would say that if you really want to
manifest this spiritual.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Like true emotional freedom.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Uh, you need to work through some things around ego entitlement,
but also like a fear of rejection and being criticized
by other people.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, there's just.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
It's all ego stuff.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
It's ego stuff, but I mean, but notative way.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's just because that it's just how it's been built protect.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
I would even say, look at the high Refont card
in Taro because there's okay, like there's that that priest energy.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
The high refont is like the high priestess.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
And male form like being a virgo to like that
earthy magic that you can access.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
But yeah, if you can.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
See yourself as like what you're doing with the podcast
as the collector of wisdom, the bearer of wisdom, as
opposed to like waiting for other people even though that's
the projector like start yeah, just being like trusting learn
developing a more trust in your intuition because it's actually
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a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for. I'd say.
And the card to move away from is either like
the four of Pinnacles or the Emperor, the sort of
like fold and arm skeptical guy. So like you're being
shaped as a mentor now I think, and that's that date,
That April twenty twenty seven date is like stepping out
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as that confident mentor.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I feel like you're just about to be there mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
But while still like you know, the moon and Pisces
is still like you don't pretend that you've got it
all figured out, like a lot of empathy for other
people who you know, experience the feeling of never being enough,
not being seen, never knowing the right time to like
jump in or jump out, and it probably tortures you
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a lot more than you would admit.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Oh yeah, I mean, I'm so sense it's sensitive. Part,
it's huge.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I mean, you know, I think i'm lexapro anxiety in
my twenties, Like you know, I feel like too much sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Know that is the yacht.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
It can feel that way.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
You do feel, but it's like you're actually empathic and
feeling a lot of other people's feelings.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
You may not even realize that you're older.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
I'm feeling I'm realizing that more and more.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I think it was more unconscious when I was younger,
but now it's like that's why I have to step
away sometimes from energy. I'm just like exactly my room,
like because it's yeah, can I haveverwhelmed with like humans?
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Well, yeah totally, And that's the the you're a spleen
driven projector too, so what you really need?
Speaker 5 (51:11):
I know that's not so funny, but my daughter is
a oh and human design. Yeah you don't, yeah exactly,
Yeah you may not.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
You're you're very but the splendic projectors are called like
really needs quiet to hear their intuition because they actually
really do know what they want, but they can't hear
it when there's too many people around. What I would
see from your chart in order to be whimsical is
to give yourself permission to be alone more. And because
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your space and your ability to be whimsical depends on
you being okay with boundary, Like it's all about boundaries,
like not feeling okay setting them, you know, and so
like waiting too long to do that maybe because you're
you don't want to hurt people or you think you
should do something, and then it's like, yeah, I mean
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I don't know.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
That's what I would see in the chart.
Speaker 6 (52:07):
Whimsy sounds like good good, you're his sister, you know, well,
more of those caps and stems yeah, but I like that.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
It's it's so Oliver has always like to quiet.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll go on my boat alone. But
it's interesting, like sometimes when I'm alone, it's like I
should be doing something more I have. I'm working on
being okay with just me and no devices, no cigarettes,
no leat, no liquor, no this, no that, and just
like just me and not having this anxiety of like
I should be doing something else. Yeah I should be
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doing but like no, no, you're fine, just fucking show.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
Yeah that's hard for me, you know that is and
the yacht is very much the Saturn and all the
other planets are like putting that pressure, like, because what
you're doing is when you're alone with your thoughts, you're
thinking about where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (52:59):
You're comparing yourself to how Kate does everything.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
I've been very comparing.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
I compare killer and I want to remind you both
pisces and the projector receive they don't push, so you're
actually wasting your energy when you try to force something
to happen. When you create that space and allow, that's
when all the stuff comes to you.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
I know it's gonna be hard for you. To believe
that with your thinking mind.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, no, I know. I wrestle with sorry about me,
but like I just I mean, that's what reading is.
I know, but Kate needs time too, But I'm I'm
on a little bit of a moment, but I just
wrestle with that.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
I wrestle with like, oh, just chill because I am
very chill. And then wait, you need you're lazy. I'm
lazy and.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Entitled as well, so it's like we'll get off your
ass to do something.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
You know, it's not when you're being lazy.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
I think maybe you're just really hard on yourself. Yeah,
it's really lazy.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm a lazy lazy, but he's kind of like better ethic.
I enjoy fun and being alone and being with my family,
then I more so than I do sort of like
getting after it like Kate, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
She gets oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's too.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Much, like let's hang out.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
It's okay to not It's okay.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
Though your Kate's chart is pure ambition. Your son is
in the tenth house Capricorn.
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Moon, like you know, and your this lifetime is a
little more of a chill one for you. Oliver, like
were you cut? It's okay?
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Like making space for quiet and rest is how all
the ideas will appear for you.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
You have like Kate's chart is.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
More interactive, but for you, it's like you have to
pull back and be alone and then you can probably
do some things surprisingly quickly after.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
You have that space.
Speaker 6 (54:51):
But and your chart also is about helping people and
making a difference too, so that can look anyway you
wanted to, Like, you know, what is it?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (55:03):
Like what would you what do you what is it
that you think you're supposed to have done or be doing?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
What do you you know? What is it?
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Wait wait wait, I have to say, Oliver, you are
that person though in the family that is always like
you're you're when it's not about you, when you're not
in the center of whatever a conflict or a situation.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
When when you are, it can be very hard.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
But but when it's somebody else, you're you're you're so
peaceful and able to and able to to sort of
become the peacekeeper for it's like you're a great mediator,
you know.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
But if he's but if he's in.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
The problem, I don't well.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
The thing is when you feel judged that what is
what I probably you're saying Kate when he's in the conflict,
he thinks he's being accused, judge, blamed, and not seen accurately.
People don't see the good intentions behind what's going on.
So you're being and you're like, wait a minute, I
needed that rest, but now I'm being accused of this.
Speaker 5 (56:19):
So so you'll probably get defensive.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
Yeah, and self deprecation is huge.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That's that's how I deal with a lot of my like,
you know, insignificant insecurities all that.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
Like said self deprecation.
Speaker 6 (56:33):
I feel like you need to embrace your role as
the Eckhartlay of the family.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, bench for a year, just like just be.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
That ability to just be is really like a power.
It's like a superpower.
Speaker 8 (56:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
There's this great video we have Oliver when he was
about maybe ten, and.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
He's like really like crazy crazy, and all of a sudden,
he just like stops and he goes into this like.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
Stare birthday party, like a sixth birthday party.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
And he goes into this like stare and he's like
staring out into space but like real still, it's like Allie.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
Yeah, like It's like I connected with something.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
And it was like it was like you were wild
and all of a sudden you went into this like place.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
It's like, that's so fu.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
You need to go more into that place. Yeah, that's
really so true.
Speaker 5 (57:36):
I feel like you need a deck of tarot cards.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah, I don't have to read them, but.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
I can teach you.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
Pull one a day and like just like journal on
it or whatever, think about like what you see in it.
Speaker 5 (57:49):
And read what it means.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
What is the King of cups?
Speaker 5 (57:53):
It's a sensitive man.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Or or depending on how you read. It's also like
it can be water signs like cancer.
Speaker 4 (58:01):
It can.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
For me. When I finished Hoffman, first of all, you know,
I was psychic for two weeks, like the cleansing of
your body.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
I mean it was like I could see things and
feel things that have never felt now.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, until he came home and tried to like diagnose me,
and I'm like, you're so off, Like what is this?
Speaker 5 (58:19):
No?
Speaker 4 (58:19):
No, oh god, well that's.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Wrong with this, wrong with everybody. And I'm like I
feel like.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Okay, I've done that.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
I've done it and I didn't endo that kind of
therapy and it's like, hey, you love this. She goes, no, no, no, no,
it's I was like, I was like psychic for a minute,
you know, for sure, and the King of Cups, this
king started coming.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
He was my sort of spirit guy when you go
through the process, and it.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Looked like the King of Cups, and all of a sudden,
like the King of Cups, he starts popping up and
it was I read about it and I was like,
oh my god, this is connecting.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
So much with card.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
It is, well, I think like if you were to
look at the card and I can show you and
you can read about the King of Cups, it's like
it's like the opposite of both of.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Our paternal figures. It's the caring father. Well, well, no
we have we have a very caring father, very Careyeah,
he's really King of Cups, but he well but he's
also he's he's not I see.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Kurtis more of like a sword, even though he is
a pisce. He's like his energy is directive. It's it's action.
It's he's action oriented.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
And there's one specific card where he's like the King
of Cups, where he's like sitting on a rock and
there's like a fish under him and like a boat
going or in the distance, and.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
I mean everything everything was me.
Speaker 6 (59:55):
There's so much we we actually we put your chart
with So we made this little tool that puts your
chart in a blender. We wrote a book about it
called the Astrology Advantage and it's uh. It basically takes
your whole chart and whittles you down to an archetype
so you can.
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Just remember one thing and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Oliver you are.
Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Well. Kate you're the tide.
Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Turner, and Oliver you're the wind shifter, which means that
most of your planets are air signs. So if we
take the sum total of your chart, and they're also
cardinal signs, which we call the innovator. So air needs
to breeze around and blow, so like you're you come.
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Both of you have a very like significant role the
tide turner, so you're mostly water. Actually, Kate tho are
we're the same as us, So your cart both have
very cardinal heavy charts, which are pioneers, trailblazers, interested in
like new ideas, new concepts, being on the edge. But
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you do it in just slightly different ways. Like Kate
will go like put her dive in wholeheartedly. You know,
not that you're not both paths, you know, but Oliver,
you just might need a lot of variety too. You
might need a lot of conversations, a lot of thinking,
a lot more intellectualizing, where Kate might be more about intuiting.
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That's why you're so into all the all the fun
harro astro stuff like us.
Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Yeah, wait, what did you call you a wind a
wind shifter?
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
A wind shift?
Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Yeah, we'll send you the calca And then the.
Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
Tie turner is mostly cardinal, so you're in mostly water
signs like somebody who comes in Well, if you do
want to describe it, yeah, you you know, you come
in and feel out the situation and then shift it
in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
So yeah, you're both.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
You're both people who come into a room and change
the vibe ape of it with that, you know. But
we might do it more through like feeling everyone out
and getting their details, and oll of them might just
be like okay, I can see what you need and
more advice.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
See that way, that's why we throw great parties. We
just like turn and ship like we just.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Just take controls the til the wind at the party and.
Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Let's go sailing. Here and then watch out for the
beach and everything that lives on it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Okay, this is this is too long and too much
fun that we're gonna have to split this into two,
two you know episodes. You're going to go into your
thinking cave and I'm gonna say that it's time we
need to pause, and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Then we're going to do a party.
Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Just just hang on to seconds and then I'm back
for the second.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Because it's too much fun. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
H
Hi.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are sibling, Railvalry, No, no, sibling.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Speaker 4 (00:38):
How was NAPA?
Speaker 3 (00:39):
So?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
I wish you were there? I know it was so
much you know what, we should have brought everybody, all
the boys, big boys.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
It was so much fun.
Speaker 4 (00:48):
Give me a quick rundown.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
It was just the best and I had so much
fun and I just it was like I loved every
second of it. And I was super prepared for like
a lot of green to like just see people like
wandering around like not listenings.
Speaker 5 (01:04):
Right, yeah, I was like, you know what, it's one thirty.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
I'm going to go there. But it was absolutely packed.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
It was like I was so like shocked and great
and happy and it just felt like really good energy
and it was just like it was crazy.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
I was like, oh my god, I brought in a crowd.
Speaker 4 (01:26):
That's awesome.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
It was really fun and like and then it was
great and I got to see so many people and
that I haven't seen a while and.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
How was the hang performance. It was fun awesome.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
I have so much to tell you. It was so
much fun. I mean, we went out late.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
We went out to see like, you know, Billy Joe
from Green Day, like did a cover thing. We went
out there to like really late. Then we ended up
going back to like it was like so much fun.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
Well, I was over there. I was so crazy. It's fishing.
I don't know what I was doing. It was too much.
It was the kids, this mortal day whatever.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I loved it. I didn't have any care. I had
like Ronnie.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
It was like me Ronnie Danny with so much fun.
And oh my friends, now listen, I am so excited
about this. Forget my weekend, forget your weekend.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Yeah, but we get a reading.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
We were so excited.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
I think as Kate considers herself an oracle, we like
the oracles.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
As I would consider It's not a consideration. It's like,
what do you mean I could do? Okay, well, well
let's ask astro twins.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
But anyway, yes, the astro twins. We get to are
astrological charts.
Speaker 4 (02:36):
We get to have a conversation with them.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
It was so exciting.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yay, hi, hey, we are so excited.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
This is like my favorite thing in the world to do.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
Yeah, this is very exciting because, first of all, you know,
we have been living in this space since we were
born because our mother is very much into this, psychics, astrology,
all of it. So I have made some of my
biggest life decisions based on.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
No, hopefully that's right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, she she feels like she's more of a sage,
but I think she's more of a Scorpio.
Speaker 5 (03:22):
Yeah, she's right on that that.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Yeah, I had my chart done a long time ago.
Different and Ra cash Rakesh. Yes, and apparently I'm a virgo,
but I was more Libra in my chart.
Speaker 5 (03:37):
Than do you have a lot of Libra?
Speaker 2 (03:40):
Yes, so much.
Speaker 4 (03:42):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (03:42):
I don't know what any of this means, but I
know what you will. I'm so means liberated, right, so
I'm liberating.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
How did you both get into this?
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Like?
Speaker 2 (03:52):
When did this start? For you?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
God?
Speaker 6 (03:56):
I mean, we had a paper route together, speaking of
siblings when we were teenagers, and we'd have to open
the middle of the newspaper to put like little coupons in,
and we wanted to win a prize, so the horoscopes
were in the middle of the newspaper, and we did
win the prize actually, so.
Speaker 5 (04:15):
It's kind of cheating, but you know, nine like a
Detroit News contest.
Speaker 6 (04:20):
But then in college, my boyfriend got my chart done,
which were four minutes apart, so same difference Tolly's chart too, and.
Speaker 5 (04:31):
I was like, whoa, what's the heck? How does this
know so much about us?
Speaker 6 (04:36):
And we just got obsessed started doing all our friends' charts.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
And now how do you read? Are do you do?
You have a certain method to how you read? You know,
is there a.
Speaker 6 (04:48):
Tuning into it's a predictive natal plus transits. But you know,
we put your time date and place of birth in
to our little handy dandy calculator and then we get
a map of the sky when you were born. Basically,
you know, the chart looks like a twelve slice pizza essentially,
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and the pizza crust, as we call it, is basically
the sky divided into twelve Each zodiac sign gets an
equal slice of the monopoly board. So you know, from
our vantage point on Earth, you know, Oliver, the sun
was in the Virgo pizza slice when you were born.
In Kate, the sun was in the aries pizza slice.
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But we also look at every other planet, you know,
planet and heavenly body, the Moon, and then.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Mercury, Mars Venus.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So in astrology, our way of looking at it is
your birth chart is the map of the movie of
your life. The planets are the cast. You know, if
you've ever done internal family systems therapy parts work, which
we love, we think astrology is a lot like that
because every planet you're not just your Sun's signed, your Moon,
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your Mercury, so you can pull the levers on each
of them, but they'll all wind up in a different
zodiac sign based on your time of birth, and that's
kind of like the costume. But the planet is wearing
like the Sun is your main character, so it'll be
wearing Aries or Virgo.
Speaker 5 (06:16):
The moon is like your.
Speaker 6 (06:17):
Best supporting and that's swearing Capricorn or Pisces. So it
really we all have the same cast, but they're wearing
different costumes based on when you were born. So interpreting
that for people and then looking at where the planets
are in relation to that, now you can just you
can just unfold so much and if that made any sense.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
So much information.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
There's also like I like looking at the hemispheres and
how heavy things lay into certain hemispheres.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
And also I love the nodes like I got the nodes.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
The nodes are like because I'm a Virgo North node,
which is wild, which makes so much sense in this
part of my life right now, which is really interesting.
But anyway, wait.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
A minute, no, no, no, look, I'm not.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
I never dive head first into much and there is
skepticism and everything that I do. I like you, but
I do believe, you know, I I believe in bigger energy,
you know I do. But but just historically, how did
astrology and charting sort of come about?
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Number one? And then number two?
Speaker 3 (07:32):
How much of it is analytics and how much of
it is intuition?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
Oh that's great, great questions.
Speaker 6 (07:40):
Well, it's been around since the ancient Babylonians and Chaldeans
and then the Greeks developed the house system, so you know,
it was in the Middle Ages the astronomers and the
astrologers were one and the same, like Galileo and Copernicus
were astrologers. Yeah, so it wasn't It wasn't really eye
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rolled until the seventeen hundreds when because the Church got
so superstitious about everything, and then the kind of rationalists
stepped in and you know, scorned anything spiritual and then
the yeah, so we're just you know if you really go.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
And that burned us all at the state we came back.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
How know, how do we know that that it is accurate?
Speaker 4 (08:32):
You know what I'm saying, Like it's a weird question.
Speaker 6 (08:36):
Yeah, Virgo gem you used Virgo word analytics, which is
you know what, how do you know?
Speaker 5 (08:44):
How do we're still in.
Speaker 6 (08:45):
The hypothesis stage right now until we discovered this is
all SIMS test and this is a sign code. But
I feel like how do scientists create their hypotheses.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
They study, They get a data pool.
Speaker 6 (09:02):
So we've got you know, got it thousands of years
of okay during this time of year. This is constellation
was once in the sky, but this is this geometrical
slice of the sky is here on the horizon.
Speaker 5 (09:16):
So this is it's just been studied and studied.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
There's also when you're sort of born.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
With that thing that you are kind of afraid to say,
like I think I have a certain kind of intuition
or things happened to me that like people who you
would say are like you know, the or the doctors
would say, well, that's leaning towards schizophrenia, or that's leaning
if you're hearing noises or if you're hearing people talking
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to you, that could be considered something crazy.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
But when you when you sort of are.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Born into it and you know you're not crazy, you're like, no,
this is actually Eventually, I think we're going to find
out that they're something incredibly scientific about it.
Speaker 5 (10:02):
I think so too.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
And I just spent a whole drive listening to the
telepathy tapes.
Speaker 5 (10:07):
Oh my god, I.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Just blew my mind.
Speaker 5 (10:11):
Oh oh, I.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Cried for how I just couldn't stop crying because it
makes so much sense to me.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
For a little backstory, we did not mean to have
this career. We went to the University of Michigan, I
almost went to engineering school.
Speaker 5 (10:25):
We went to arts school.
Speaker 6 (10:27):
But astrology kind of found us just out of a
curiosity of like trying to figure out the guys we
were trying to date or friends or whatever, you know,
just as like huh. But then we started to see
patterns and like, there's more to it than this.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Yeah, and hit a lot of weird Yeah, and you
do it together. Yeah, I mean, I mean.
Speaker 6 (10:50):
Gosh, I've been doing it for thirty years now. So
I was like, oh my god, Holly, check out this.
Speaker 4 (10:55):
Thirty are living live together?
Speaker 5 (10:58):
No, No, we're on is it Coast? I'm in Seattle,
but I go to New York all the time. We
actually have.
Speaker 6 (11:04):
Two apartments in New York City across the hall from
each other. That like, yeah, when we go there, we
you know, it's very our future Gray gardens.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
You know, I love it.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
And do you read do you read the charts together
and kind of like rap about it?
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Do you kind of, oh, for sure?
Speaker 6 (11:23):
Yeah, Like I mean we have we split up our
clientele usually because we have a lot.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
It's too much too Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:30):
No, it's like, so your charts are exactly the same.
Speaker 6 (11:34):
One tiny difference, so like yeah, just like a one
degree difference.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:39):
The sign that rules our roomance house and our friendship
house is like Taurus scorpio minds Gemini said, which is
good because we've always liked a different type of guy.
Speaker 3 (11:50):
And that kind of really, but before we get into us,
you know, it's just so interesting as identical twins doing
your charts and having pretty much the exact same stuff
with the exception of a few but have as sort
of using yourself as test subjects, do you notice that
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everything else is pretty much spot on or do some
things deviate where you're like, oh, this is supposed to
be this given our chart, but you're over here and
I'm over here.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
I mean that the signs can express themselves in different ways.
So when a transit will happen, which is astro geek
speak for a planet moving through a different part of
your chart, like Jupiter, the planet of abundance, was in
our fourth house, motherhood home, and she got knocked up
and as her daughter and I moved to the other
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side of the country.
Speaker 5 (12:44):
So you know, we can like, but the energies.
Speaker 6 (12:47):
Will influence us at the same time, but they don't
always influence in the same way. Yes, we're good test
subjects for this. Yeah, fun like check on twins.
Speaker 5 (12:58):
I think we.
Speaker 6 (12:59):
Yeah, we will experience those cycles similarly, but just in
our own way. And you know, I think you know,
there's free will. I believe in past lives now from
all the charts I've looked at, so you know, and
just nature.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
And can you tell it? Can you like, say, what
kind of past lives we had? Can you the north
so excited.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
When I read cards like I because I've been reading
themselves since I was nineteen. But when I read, like,
I never I've never been a negative. There's nothing nothing
about how I read is goes negative. Yeah good, yeah,
you know, do you know what I'm saying? You know,
you go to those tradings and people are like, you know,
this is going to be challenging, this is going to
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be a difficult time in your life.
Speaker 5 (13:54):
When people do that.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
You don't do that because you don't and everybody has challenges,
it's a different thing. I see them as like blocked,
these like blocked energy ways. Like if you see something
that kind of feels like it's challenging, it's like something's blocking,
and then you can go a little bit deeper and
find out like what is actually underneath it, And that's exciting.
Speaker 6 (14:16):
When do you get you're like ready to take on
a new phase of evolution, Like life isn't supposed to
be stagnant for most of us, I mean at least
the most interesting people out there, you know, Well, that's.
Speaker 3 (14:30):
I've asked the psychics that I've seen because you know,
even with my therapists, when I go to therapy, like
I usually there's moments where I'm asking them about their
lives and like this is not a.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Session for me.
Speaker 3 (14:40):
I got curious. So I'm always asking, I like, what
if you reading someone who's gonna die at like forty eight?
Speaker 5 (14:48):
You know what I mean, I don't even look for that.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
I'm like, don't even saying do you see that? Maybe
you guys, But some of them like yeah. I was like,
well how do you handle I mean, like.
Speaker 5 (14:57):
Some astrologers do.
Speaker 6 (14:59):
There are prediction give techniques that some astrologers use for
seeing when someone may die, but I choose not to go.
There are not those astrologies.
Speaker 5 (15:10):
It's like that's not really interesting to me.
Speaker 6 (15:13):
I feel like I also feel like that's part of
a contract that the soul makes.
Speaker 5 (15:17):
Before we come here.
Speaker 6 (15:19):
So it's not for me to play god like that.
Speaker 3 (15:24):
I agree, But there's a gap in the business. Maybe
I will fill that gap. Maybe I will just be
the astrology astrologists of death.
Speaker 1 (15:32):
There are certain people that are really good with like health,
so like that's like medical astrology. Yeah, like there you know.
And it's like almost like everybody has their thing, you know,
and or has or just has a stronger connection to
certain things. Like people will say, like like Maria, for instance,
but she's great with health and she can say like, hey,
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what's going on with your friend with her stomach, you know,
and then she can say like, it's gonna be hard
and chat like she so she won't say like she's gonna,
you know, die, but she will say that it's gonna
be a process, and she's usually very accurate.
Speaker 6 (16:13):
That's helpful because you can go then get whatever screening
you need to get, like in that case, you know,
I think as long as you're giving, that's that's what
people do want to know.
Speaker 5 (16:24):
Should I be worried about this, well, they'll ask us, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Maria has been worried about Oliver's liver since like ninety seven.
Speaker 5 (16:31):
Yeah, but.
Speaker 4 (16:34):
Here's here's the grainest salt you have to take with
every He's like, my.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Liver is fucking I know, it's a beautiful liver.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
All right, Cool, let's go. I'm excited.
Speaker 5 (16:44):
Okay, Well, we should talk about the nodes.
Speaker 6 (16:47):
I think our brand of astrology is really life purpose,
life path, that's what.
Speaker 5 (16:53):
We really like.
Speaker 6 (16:54):
We're sagittarians, so we're very optimistic, you know. But the
one thing that you, Oliver, I don't know if you
know you're big three Kate, I'm sure you do. But
so the sun, the moon, and the rising sign, those
are like that's the lingo now is your big three.
So the sun is kind of how you shine in
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the world. The moon is the part of you that
the private part, the best supporting and what you really
need to feel nurtured. And then your rising sign is
like the tint. Like if your sun's sign makes you blue,
your rising sign.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
Will make you powder blue or navy blue.
Speaker 6 (17:33):
It's kind of how you project. So you are your
Virgo with an Aries rising and a Pisce's moon. So
ah yeah, so Aries rising, so you come across like
a confident Aries sometimes or a little you know, you
know how to puff up as needed. But the moon,
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which is the inner you and Pisces is actually very sensitive.
Speaker 7 (18:01):
Yeah yeah, the Pisces moon really absorbs.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
You're kind of like this sponge for.
Speaker 6 (18:17):
Everyone around you. Your chart is so the Libra. So
the personal planets are Sun, Moon, Mercury, Mars, and Venus.
But so you have Mercury, Mars, Venus, which our love communication,
as well as Pluto, which is kind of the evolving
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shadow part of you, all clustered together in Libra. So
that's where that super libra energy, so that's where that
interest in other people comes in.
Speaker 2 (18:49):
Also could be very very challenging.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Sometimes to where they are in your chart.
Speaker 6 (18:56):
The sixth house, which is the Virgo, so you want
to connect, but you also will You're you have sort
of an you're an idealist when it comes to people,
and sometimes one wrong move can disappoint you. You also
are probably very hard on yourself, so after you meet someone,
you can go back, why did I say that?
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Like kind of the voices in your head.
Speaker 6 (19:20):
The post game debrief might be a little harsh there too.
And Saturn in the chart shows Saturn's like the ass
kicking personal trainer that'll like make you do the burpies,
make you go to boot camp. But like as you
go through life, it really shows where you develop mastery.
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So you have Saturn and Leo, which is funny because
that's like the Hollywood sign in the fifth house, the
Hollywood House.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
So it's like it's almost like this like part of
you that like wants to resist you know, the whole.
Speaker 6 (19:54):
La scene in some ways, and like you know, but
you feel like I have to do this with depth,
with strength, with like this and that actually sometimes shows
like somebody who is famous a little later.
Speaker 5 (20:09):
In life too.
Speaker 6 (20:10):
With that, and you have the special shape called a
yad in your chart, the finger of fate.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
This is a.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
Yacht. I don't know about yachts.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Okay, yeah, it's like the pointer. So there's one.
Speaker 6 (20:28):
It's like a triangle shape, kind of like a witch hat.
So two planets that are what are called sextile to
each other, meaning they're friendly, but they're in uh, they're
both in a challenging angle to one that they're pointing at.
So there you have Saturn and so you actually have
a few of them. All the Libra planets point into
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your moon, so your moon is basically stressed out and
a prince I think Prince had two yachts.
Speaker 5 (20:58):
Diana had yacht. So you can feel like you're part
of the special tortured souls.
Speaker 2 (21:02):
Oh my god, this makes so much sense.
Speaker 6 (21:12):
And with theiss which is in your twelfth house, which
is the house of deep subconscious stuff.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
I mean but god, Dad like did such a number
on you two, So it's just like double whammy.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's like, oh yeah, your chart and then the disappointment,
like so soon.
Speaker 6 (21:37):
Can't well, I feel like you came into this lifetime
to real like, I feel like you've had a lot
of lifetimes where everything was just kind of calm, status quo,
and you didn't fully appreciate it or feel you felt
a little like flat. So this lifetime you really chose
to come in for some intensity. Kate was talking about
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the north and south notes of the moon. I don't worry,
We're getting to you, Kate. Of course, Hey, Jamaican aries, Okay,
it's okay, I'm working on all those, right. So, yeah,
the these two points in the chart there opposite points.
They're based on where the eclipses were happening closest to
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your time of birth. And this is how Kabbalistic astrology works.
It mostly looks at these points.
Speaker 5 (22:26):
The south node reveals.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
Your past life, what you or what you come into
this life having natural facility around, but your purpose in
this lifetime pulls you in the other direction. So you
came in with a Taurus south node. Taurus in the
first house, so it's like the first house was first born, right,
So it was like, yeah, all about you and all
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your you know, in your earliest years.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Yeah, and you wanted to kill me when I showed up.
Speaker 6 (22:55):
Literally really well, you're you have right now next to
your south notes, I there's other planets or placements next
to it. They're influencing it. So you have Chiron the
wounded healer and Black Moon Lilith, which is kind of
this belonging wound. So like your past life brings in
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this desire to like be a healer, but also to
like find a way like you choosing yourself, even if
that means kind of exiling yourself from the values of
the people around you. So like you know, your north node,
what you're here to grow into and learn, is in
Scorpio and the seven thousand relationships. So that's where probably
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where oh where was getting his like oohs.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
You know, yeah, the uh you know together with.
Speaker 6 (23:47):
Well also you know, back to your south in Taurus,
like I think you liked things a certain way Taurus,
like certainty and things not to change and so but
you had too much of that, like she's like Tolly
send in your past lives, so you you were you're
meant to learn how to flow with change. But your
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north note is where you have these lessons that especially
the first one really is abrupt. And you have Uranus,
the planet of surprises. There's no good way to say
that planet, So I chose.
Speaker 5 (24:19):
The fancy way.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Uh, together with your north note and Scorpio in the
seventh House of Partnerships. So probably when Kate was born
or when your parents divorced or whatever.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
It was so shocking.
Speaker 6 (24:32):
It shook you out of this kind of belief that
you were walking around with it like well, this is
just how everything is always going to be. And so
when things change, especially in your relationships, it like spins
you out.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
This makes me want to cry.
Speaker 4 (24:51):
Yeah, changed changed, but you're.
Speaker 1 (24:53):
Getting so much better at it, Like you're even like
going You're just going on.
Speaker 3 (24:57):
Yeah, you're just going on location. Like when I had
a guy, it would qrush me abandon my family. Yeah,
I mean it was.
Speaker 2 (25:05):
Or even like going fad for years.
Speaker 1 (25:09):
I'm like, come to Europe, come with me, Come, and
he would just be like okay, yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (25:13):
Trust south no needs that like stability, that comfort, that
rounded home base. Yes, and then's moon at the pointer
of the yacht is also in your twelve test, which
is a theme of guilt and like sort of this
fear that you'll be lost at sea if you separate
from your people too much.
Speaker 5 (25:34):
But that's actually something.
Speaker 6 (25:35):
It's it's probably a belief from past lifetimes that you
could start to challenge. And I'm sure you have through
some of the things that you've done and you're healing work.
I would love your may Embellic Kauffman.
Speaker 3 (25:48):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5 (25:51):
It's cool. That was a great interview. Yeah, now I
want to do it. If you guys ever looked at
human design at all.
Speaker 2 (25:58):
I love human I'm upset. I love it.
Speaker 6 (26:01):
Yeah, it's like astrology on steroids, So we won't go
too far into it. But what I did see is
Oliver is the type projector.
Speaker 5 (26:09):
So course, yeah, and you're not so I think you're
a generator.
Speaker 6 (26:14):
Like yeah, so projectors are supposedly came into being when
the planet Uranus was discovered in seventeen eighty one.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
But it's this new type of soul and they have.
Speaker 6 (26:29):
To They're often overlooked because they're supposed to wait to
be invited into situations, and when they try to push
into a situation or be seen like, they get this
energetic resistance and they can become bitter because what happens.
Speaker 5 (26:47):
They're like, why.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Doesn't I know the answer, I know how to help.
I'm ready, I'm here. Why doesn't anyone see me? So
what they learn in their lifetimes is how to kind
of create this aura to magnetize people to them instead
of trying to be picked.
Speaker 5 (27:02):
So we want to give him how to pick girl.
Speaker 2 (27:06):
By the way, all my kids are projectors, Like daughter is.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Even leave the house.
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I was like, oh, there it all like it started
to make sense. I was like looking into all of it,
and I think, Kurt, I think my dad is a manifestor.
I think so I could be wrong, but I think
he's a manifestor, which is I think a really Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Yeah, projectors means that you why the word project or?
Are you projecting?
Speaker 5 (27:45):
I think people project things onto you. I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 6 (27:48):
Like I'm still, you know, still learning more about human design.
But what I do know is that it's a smaller
percentage of the population. So you live in a world
where we're most generators, which is people that are always
like go, go go, and projectors try.
Speaker 5 (28:05):
To keep up and get exhausted.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
They need to actually rest and step aside and sleep
till noon every now and then, or just get the
hell away from all the pressure.
Speaker 1 (28:17):
Yeah, yeah, amazing, exactly it's literally me every morning, exactly,
I'm up. I'm screaming literally every including Danny, my partner,
who are all projectors.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
I got.
Speaker 5 (28:33):
He had the day off today. I'm like, it's one o'clock.
I'm like, get up. Yeah, she's a tductor. She needs
to sleep, but she probably also stayed up all night.
Speaker 4 (28:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (28:45):
Wait, I've got a date for you, and I've got
one for you too, Kate.
Speaker 6 (28:49):
But a date to know is April fourteenth, twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 5 (28:55):
Saturn will have will cross.
Speaker 6 (28:57):
So the very beginning of your chart, which is the
eastern horizon, if you're to look at the sky, that's
where you're ascendant, your rising sign of April April fourteen,
it's twenty twenty seven, Saturn will cross your ascendant and
move into your first house right now it's yeah, Oliver's,
and that'll be.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
It's in your twelfth house.
Speaker 6 (29:21):
So you're really putting up a lot of boundaries probably
right now, like really clearing out things like the next
couple of years.
Speaker 5 (29:28):
It's like, no, no, no, this doesn't work for me.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
This does these other conditions setting up the right conditions
to thrive. But what I see happens a lot when
the when Saturn crosses the Ascendant and it moves into
the first house, like people really step out and like
establish themselves in this whole new way, and it starts
this twenty nine year cycle. So like there's a lot
of maybe healing, forgiving, releasing, just studying with mentors, psychedelic journeys.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Yeah at all all that, you know, Yeah, shedding all
those old beliefs and letting yourself.
Speaker 6 (30:05):
Like your family's gonna be fine if you take, if
you do something without them. Because the thing is, your
north note is like a new language and your south
note is like your native language. So you know, when
you start to learn a new language, you tend to
like overenunciate the words and everything. So in relationships you
go overboard with them and almost into codependence. Sometimes maybe
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not anymore, but you did. But there's always going to
be this like wait, I gotta overgive or overfunction. Wait
I gotta get away. So so that's just something to
work on your whole really for the rest give yourself
the rest of your life.
Speaker 5 (30:43):
But this July is also really big for you.
Speaker 6 (30:45):
Oliver for money or a worst project, Yeah yeah, uronnest
the plan to.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
Keep having to say is going to go over your Jupiter.
Speaker 6 (30:56):
You're just this past year has been like a big
I don't know if you had new thoughts about how.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
You're using your money making it. Have you been writing
or doing anything?
Speaker 3 (31:07):
Like? Yes, the answer is yes, I'm proacing more now.
You know, I'm definitely thinking of how to you know,
sort of branch out more. As far as just being
an actor. It's not lucrative enough, you know, especially in
how and you make the businesses right.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Now, the great money line with that Scorpio North node
like actually even crypto or technology. And I also see
like maybe some script writing directly, maybe a streaming or
online kind of series. I don't know, something along those lines.
Speaker 4 (31:43):
M hm.
Speaker 2 (31:44):
I like when I hear writing, it's all I want to.
I want to writing.
Speaker 4 (31:52):
All of this makes sense, you know, because again it's this,
it's this feeling. And I always say this to Kate.
There so much talent that I feel like I have.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
There's so much potential that I know that I have
as a creative person, you know, and I get discouraged.
Speaker 4 (32:10):
I get a d d'd out.
Speaker 3 (32:11):
I even when I was young, I would start something
and if it got too hard, I.
Speaker 5 (32:15):
Would quit rising yep.
Speaker 3 (32:17):
You know, like like it's just like, oh my god,
it's too overwhelming. Fucket No, I'll go fish. I'll go fishing,
I'll go hang out, I'll go read a book, you.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
Like that's much more enjoyable than Okay, I've got an
idea for a script.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I'm gonna do it. None of that for you.
Speaker 5 (32:31):
You can't do that. Yeah, it's all pick me girling.
Speaker 4 (32:34):
No, yeah, it's that's been my problem.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I think Okay, I think you're gonna behind though.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
Yeah, I'll just say it's okay. Like comfort is really
important for you. It south node like and the values
are you need?
Speaker 2 (32:51):
Like you need like a blankye, you need like your
little writing blankie.
Speaker 4 (32:55):
I know you get a blank.
Speaker 3 (32:59):
There's also a string usually a perfectionist quality that I
have that I can't just vomit it out and be like,
let me just write this fucking thing, but I don't
care how bad it is, and I can go fix
it for me.
Speaker 4 (33:09):
It's like it's not perfect. I'm done.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (33:12):
Yeah, that's that's all the planets in your sixth house,
which is the Virgo house, the Lea. That's the idealism,
the perfectionism, like one wrong move. So there's one part
of you that's like a little bit lazy and entitled,
and then there's another part of you that's like, it
feels like you're not worth it?
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Can you? Can you say that one more time? Please?
Speaker 4 (33:36):
I just need that that.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
I just need that. It's like an affirmation for me.
Speaker 4 (33:40):
It couldn't be more true. There's a definite lazy part
of you. And I haven't. I an't titled, is like,
why is this ship happening to me? Like I'm the best.
Speaker 5 (33:56):
Saturn Saturn and Leo in the fifth house rising, and.
Speaker 6 (34:01):
Yeah there's a lot of Now Kate doesn't have a
lazy bone in her body, I would say no, Like
Ari's Sun up in the tenth house, Capricorn, Moon and
a cancer rising.
Speaker 5 (34:13):
So that's interesting too. You have what's called a.
Speaker 6 (34:16):
T square when planets make this exact sort of like
an L shape.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
It's like a triang.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
Yeah, it's like a it's missing one point. So your
Sun and Moon and Jupiter are all at twenty nine degrees.
I don't know if you ever looked at the degrees before.
Speaker 5 (34:34):
Yeah, that's rare. It's called the anoretic degree it's kind
of like having a yacht in the way.
Speaker 6 (34:39):
It's very So every sign in the pizza crust is
thirty degrees when we go zero to twenty nine, So
if anything's like that, that twenty ninth degree, it's like
holding all this energy.
Speaker 5 (34:52):
So your Ari's Sun, you're just about a Taurus. So yeah, your.
Speaker 6 (34:56):
Ari's Sun at twenty nine degrees is like the very
end of this like powerhouse warrior energy. Then you're a
Capricorn moon, like you can really detach when you need
to and get the job done.
Speaker 5 (35:10):
And then you have Jupiter in cancer.
Speaker 6 (35:13):
Jupiter's abundance and cancer is like this nurturing motherly energy.
So it's like you can just go like full mama
bear full, like balls to the wall. I've got the
script memorized boom, you know, whatever needs to happen. You're
like stepping up as the leader. The missing point would
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be twenty nine degrees libra. So it's interesting that Oliver
has all that libra, so he kind of comes.
Speaker 5 (35:41):
In and fills in for you.
Speaker 2 (35:43):
I love that he like does Yeah, the.
Speaker 6 (35:47):
Libra forgets sometimes to be like person, like no, you
don't just take care, let's cooperate let's work together, like
you know, not that you're not a romantic. I love
to call her daddy interview. How you mentioned being in
aries a few times? And then she didn't even quite
understand us.
Speaker 2 (36:04):
Like come on, you're a leo, Like get talk she
is a leo.
Speaker 5 (36:10):
I yeah, I was like waiting for her to like
talk about being a fire sign with you. Yeah, you
didn't take the bait. We'll get her, We'll get.
Speaker 6 (36:19):
Her on it.
Speaker 5 (36:20):
Yeah, but that libra energy, I don't know, just how
do you see that?
Speaker 6 (36:25):
Like do you see a place where you kind of
could fill in a little more balance and partnership for yourself.
Speaker 2 (36:31):
I think that's like what I.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Have been learning and probably the last seven six seven years.
I turn into like a racehorse that like doesn't stop
unless someone's like stop yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
Which is a very generator.
Speaker 6 (36:48):
Also in human design, you you just go, go, go,
So you're supposed to actually wait before you just respond
to something, because no matter what it is, you'll once
you decide you're doing it, you're throwing yourself at it,
and then you can get frustrated if it's not the
right fit. So with your aries, Sun being in this
tug of war with your cancer moon. It's like your
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inner and outer self are at war sometimes, so you're
very dutiful and you don't want to disappoint anyone, but
then you could over promise or something like that, or
just be like what did I just say yes too?
And yeah, So that's like that's something that you learn.
Also with your Piscy's South node in the ninth house,
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which is the abundant, worldly, optimistic kind of like dream
I can do this, like you'll get swept up in
the moment. And then your Virgo North node in the
third house. It's like you're kind of learning, like all right,
how does this fit into my day to day? There's
you know your I hate when people say you have
the same twenty four hours in the day is so
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and so, But you are definitely someone who can make
twenty four hours seem like a year. What you can
get a lot more done than the average mortal. But
you know you also have Saturn and Virgos, so that's
the tension in your life. Like this is the thing
about what I love about astrology. It's like it doesn't
all fit together, like this neat puzzle. There are parts
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of you that do not really sync up with other ones,
so you have to kind of decide which one is
going to run the show in this situation. So you
have these virgo parts that want to organize and calendar
and schedule and clean the base boards, and then you
have these other parts that want to do these big
dreams out in the world, and you know, you're.
Speaker 5 (38:39):
Just trying to figure out how to do it.
Speaker 2 (38:40):
Are always they're always at war.
Speaker 6 (38:42):
When you just stop in the middle of like you know,
reading something and clean a base board sometimes.
Speaker 5 (38:49):
Just for like it's meditative, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Yeah, I'll just like be in the middle having it.
That's how I procrastinate.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
I'll like I'll be like having to read something, or
I'll be reading even my favorite book. I'll be like
I'll see my like you know, a box in my
office and be like going to clean that thing.
Speaker 5 (39:05):
Yeah, can cancer up, I'll do that.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:10):
There are also this is like a really amazing time
to be an aries because two outer planets have just
moved into aries, one for the first time in one
hundred and sixty five years Neptune and one for the
first time in thirty years, Saturn. So you're so Mercury
is how you communicate your mercury is one degree aries,
(39:34):
so you are going to feel like this whole new
way of expressing yourself. And I don't know if you've
already been getting like tons of artistic downloads, well, you're
you're doing music and Neptuneictune. Neptune is going to be
hovering on top of your mercury for a couple of years,
and sat it's just there.
Speaker 5 (39:56):
Yeah, so this whole new way of expressing yourself.
Speaker 6 (40:00):
The world is getting this blessing of Neptune's imagination, creativity, boundlessness,
but Saturn's discipline and structure. Saturn and Neptune don't always
travel together because Neptune moves so much slower. It takes
one hundred and sixty five years to go through all
the signs and Saturn takes twenty nine. So they've been
(40:21):
syncd up in Pisces for the last few years. So
that's already like the last year has probably been mega
creative because your venus and Pisces is getting hit by
both of those and you've probably, I imagine, been in
the studio.
Speaker 2 (40:34):
And doing a lot of creativity.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
I've found it not even just the studio, but just
the resurgence of TV shows, of.
Speaker 2 (40:42):
The movies, music and yeah, it's.
Speaker 4 (40:45):
Busy, busy. Ye.
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Honestly, to speak for my sister, I think she's getting finally,
in my opinion, getting back to her creativity because business
took over a little bit too much in my opinion
for her. Yeah, in the movies and the TV was
kind of sporadic, and the music wasn't there yet, and
then boom, something shifted and it's been creative, creative, creative.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (41:09):
I think that was like late twenty twenty three, Saturn
went out of your eighth house, which is all about
business and investors. You probably a lot of investors you
had to answer to or behold into. No crypto though, yeah, well.
Speaker 5 (41:25):
Some kind of yeah yeah, well yeah, exactly.
Speaker 6 (41:29):
Yeah, the hate coins coming out, don't buy that mean coin,
the mean coin.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
Oh my god, my god.
Speaker 2 (41:37):
But now so it's my mask.
Speaker 6 (41:39):
Yeah, Saturn is in your ninth house, which rules sports.
Funny enough, so you had the you know, interest, It
isn't that wild.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
So that is awesome.
Speaker 4 (41:50):
That's crazy, I know.
Speaker 5 (41:52):
Like, did you ever really think you'd do something like
that right like that? I know, it's I know what
I love it.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
I was so happy.
Speaker 6 (42:00):
Yeah, yeah, and it's gonna you've got that for a while,
so it's gonna be fun for you to keep doing that.
Speaker 5 (42:06):
Yeah, but oh I saw one thing.
Speaker 6 (42:09):
There was a date that I wanted to tell you,
which is June twenty six, twenty twenty six, okay, is
the date of your Jupiter return. So every twelve years
Jupiter hits the same twelve to thirteen years, hits the
same spot it was in when you were born. So
the last time that happened was like probably June twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Look a look at summer twenty fourteen.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
That was the last time Jupiter was close to twenty
nine gree is cancer, Okay, So yeah, Jupiter is actually
moving into cancer on June ninth. So you can take
the whole year if you want, as your Jupiter return.
But because it's what that powerful karmic twenty ninth degree,
that's that exact moment will be a year from now
(42:55):
year and some change, so you're kind of and it's
going to be crossing. It's still in your twelfth house.
So I don't know what if there's something coming out
next year that you're working on that's gonna be.
Speaker 5 (43:07):
Could be musical, too.
Speaker 6 (43:09):
Yeah, but even this year when Jupiter's in the twelfth house,
I feel like where it is now for you, like
so like so many people wind up like winning oscars
when they have Jupiter in the twelfth or like awards,
like I think.
Speaker 5 (43:22):
Beyonce went like, oh my god, solo and she Jupiter
in the twelve.
Speaker 6 (43:27):
I mean, there's just I don't know Jupiter, like both
of you have some twelfth House action, which like astrologers
who are very analytical hate the twelfth house. Astrologers who
are intuitive like us ef In love the twelfth house.
Speaker 4 (43:47):
Exactly what is the twelve house again.
Speaker 5 (43:49):
The very last house.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
So there's the deposite energy of Virgo. It's very not
structured or analytical. It's manifesting.
Speaker 5 (43:57):
It's like it's like, okay, that defied scientific explanation.
Speaker 2 (44:03):
Yeah, so very exalting.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
Let's bring abundant and Saturn is structured. So it's kind
of like Kate gets.
Speaker 5 (44:14):
Go out there, go far and wide with the Wou
and the man and Oliver.
Speaker 6 (44:18):
You just need more like a practice like taking one
step at a time, like repeating a practice to really
this is a great time to re pattern any fear
neural pathways and resistant neural pathways that you have like
hypnote therapy, EMDR, psychedelics, all of that.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
We're actually in the process, Ollie and I am looking
at our brains.
Speaker 2 (44:51):
Yeah, we're cool looking. Absolutely you should do that.
Speaker 6 (44:55):
It's a great time to be in Aries. You've got
Neptune there for fifteen years. SA Saturn is a little
bit of an ass kicker. It's like gonna make you
work hard to slow down and like take your time.
Like I have an Aries friend who's like, maybe I
should take twelve months to do the thing that I
usually try to do in a day.
Speaker 3 (45:14):
I was.
Speaker 6 (45:15):
I was like, yeah, that's probably a good idea, So
give yourself a longer timeline. The South node right now
is actually in virgo until next summer. So for you, Oliver,
there is some more soul searching.
Speaker 5 (45:27):
And that kind of stuff to do. It's not to
say you can't find me doing it. Kate's in her
nodle opposition.
Speaker 6 (45:33):
So the south node is where the north node was,
and then so every eighteen years you have your nodal
return and then your opposition. So when you're nine you
have your first nodal opposition. I mean the north notes
where the south node was when you were born, and
the south node was where the north node was. So
it's flipped and the first north node return when they
come back to where they were when you were born,
(45:55):
happens at eighteen or so. So it's like when you
go away from the fam a stafe or go down
to the basement. But you're still like, f you, I'm
doing things my way. You know, I'm breaking out of
the comfort zone. But then nine years after you like,
you have your so you're in your your nodle opposition now.
Speaker 5 (46:14):
So it's like a time of balancing.
Speaker 6 (46:16):
It's like, how do I bring this virgo work ethic
in with this pisces flow? How do I, you know,
bring this intangible dreaminess into some kind.
Speaker 5 (46:27):
Of structured state.
Speaker 2 (46:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (46:29):
Who do I not want to be anymore? What are
the rules I've ever?
Speaker 2 (46:33):
I don't know why I love this.
Speaker 5 (46:35):
That's so exciting.
Speaker 6 (46:38):
I feel like I should say that you guys might
write a book together about your lives.
Speaker 1 (46:44):
Oh I like it.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
Yeah, So I don't know. I just felt that sort
so it could be a joint project.
Speaker 4 (46:51):
Yeah, okay, okay, we're not doing anything else.
Speaker 5 (46:56):
That's right. There's big money, it is, there's right, but
you'll write everything. Yeah right, yeah, what.
Speaker 4 (47:08):
Were they called? The witch hats? What were they called?
So can you just explain those again quickly? Like what
if they are?
Speaker 6 (47:17):
Yeah, there's two planets that are kind of cooperating, but
they're both in this stressed angle to wan. So there's
there's it's called the finger of fate. You know people
who have a bar mitzvah when they use the pointer
to read the tour. I'm sure you went to plenty
of those growing up in La. You know, the thing
they used to read the scrolls. It's called the yads.
(47:39):
So yeah, it's a very it's a very sacred kind
of point. So whatever it's pointing to is uh takes
on really great importance.
Speaker 4 (47:52):
So the yards are pointing to the moon and again and.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
Hat.
Speaker 8 (47:59):
Yeah, and we should show you some visuals, you know,
I have them all like here, So it means that
that's like like like how it's like if you were
to if you were to give the.
Speaker 1 (48:11):
Yadd it with his with with his with it pointing
to the moon and Pisces, like what would be the
elevator pitch?
Speaker 6 (48:18):
Okay, I would say that if you really want to
manifest this spiritual.
Speaker 5 (48:25):
Like true emotional freedom.
Speaker 6 (48:29):
Uh, you need to work through some things around ego entitlement,
but also like a fear of rejection and being criticized
by other people.
Speaker 5 (48:39):
Yeah, there's just.
Speaker 2 (48:41):
It's all ego stuff.
Speaker 5 (48:44):
It's ego stuff, but I mean, but notative way.
Speaker 2 (48:47):
It's just because that it's just how it's been built protect.
Speaker 6 (48:51):
I would even say, look at the high Refont card
in Taro because there's okay, like there's that that priest energy.
Speaker 5 (49:02):
The high refont is like the high priestess.
Speaker 6 (49:04):
And male form like being a virgo to like that
earthy magic that you can access.
Speaker 5 (49:10):
But yeah, if you can.
Speaker 6 (49:14):
See yourself as like what you're doing with the podcast
as the collector of wisdom, the bearer of wisdom, as
opposed to like waiting for other people even though that's
the projector like start yeah, just being like trusting learn
developing a more trust in your intuition because it's actually
(49:34):
a lot stronger than you give yourself credit for. I'd say.
And the card to move away from is either like
the four of Pinnacles or the Emperor, the sort of
like fold and arm skeptical guy. So like you're being
shaped as a mentor now I think, and that's that date,
That April twenty twenty seven date is like stepping out
(49:56):
as that confident mentor.
Speaker 5 (49:58):
I feel like you're just about to be there mm hmm.
Speaker 6 (50:01):
But while still like you know, the moon and Pisces
is still like you don't pretend that you've got it
all figured out, like a lot of empathy for other
people who you know, experience the feeling of never being enough,
not being seen, never knowing the right time to like
jump in or jump out, and it probably tortures you
(50:23):
a lot more than you would admit.
Speaker 4 (50:24):
Oh yeah, I mean, I'm so sense it's sensitive. Part,
it's huge.
Speaker 3 (50:27):
I mean, you know, I think i'm lexapro anxiety in
my twenties, Like you know, I feel like too much sometimes, you.
Speaker 2 (50:36):
Know that is the yacht.
Speaker 5 (50:37):
It can feel that way.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
You do feel, but it's like you're actually empathic and
feeling a lot of other people's feelings.
Speaker 5 (50:44):
You may not even realize that you're older.
Speaker 4 (50:47):
I'm feeling I'm realizing that more and more.
Speaker 3 (50:51):
I think it was more unconscious when I was younger,
but now it's like that's why I have to step
away sometimes from energy. I'm just like exactly my room,
like because it's yeah, can I haveverwhelmed with like humans?
Speaker 6 (51:04):
Well, yeah totally, And that's the the you're a spleen
driven projector too, so what you really need?
Speaker 5 (51:11):
I know that's not so funny, but my daughter is
a oh and human design. Yeah you don't, yeah exactly,
Yeah you may not.
Speaker 6 (51:20):
You're you're very but the splendic projectors are called like
really needs quiet to hear their intuition because they actually
really do know what they want, but they can't hear
it when there's too many people around. What I would
see from your chart in order to be whimsical is
to give yourself permission to be alone more. And because
(51:45):
your space and your ability to be whimsical depends on
you being okay with boundary, Like it's all about boundaries,
like not feeling okay setting them, you know, and so
like waiting too long to do that maybe because you're
you don't want to hurt people or you think you
should do something, and then it's like, yeah, I mean
(52:06):
I don't know.
Speaker 5 (52:06):
That's what I would see in the chart.
Speaker 6 (52:07):
Whimsy sounds like good good, you're his sister, you know, well,
more of those caps and stems yeah, but I like that.
Speaker 2 (52:16):
It's it's so Oliver has always like to quiet.
Speaker 3 (52:20):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'll go on my boat alone. But
it's interesting, like sometimes when I'm alone, it's like I
should be doing something more I have. I'm working on
being okay with just me and no devices, no cigarettes,
no leat, no liquor, no this, no that, and just
like just me and not having this anxiety of like
I should be doing something else. Yeah I should be
(52:41):
doing but like no, no, you're fine, just fucking show.
Speaker 6 (52:44):
Yeah that's hard for me, you know that is and
the yacht is very much the Saturn and all the
other planets are like putting that pressure, like, because what
you're doing is when you're alone with your thoughts, you're
thinking about where you're supposed to be.
Speaker 5 (52:59):
You're comparing yourself to how Kate does everything.
Speaker 4 (53:03):
I've been very comparing.
Speaker 6 (53:04):
I compare killer and I want to remind you both
pisces and the projector receive they don't push, so you're
actually wasting your energy when you try to force something
to happen. When you create that space and allow, that's
when all the stuff comes to you.
Speaker 5 (53:22):
I know it's gonna be hard for you. To believe
that with your thinking mind.
Speaker 4 (53:26):
Yeah, no, I know. I wrestle with sorry about me,
but like I just I mean, that's what reading is.
I know, but Kate needs time too, But I'm I'm
on a little bit of a moment, but I just
wrestle with that.
Speaker 3 (53:38):
I wrestle with like, oh, just chill because I am
very chill. And then wait, you need you're lazy. I'm
lazy and.
Speaker 4 (53:47):
Entitled as well, so it's like we'll get off your
ass to do something.
Speaker 5 (53:51):
You know, it's not when you're being lazy.
Speaker 2 (53:53):
I think maybe you're just really hard on yourself. Yeah,
it's really lazy.
Speaker 3 (53:58):
I'm a lazy lazy, but he's kind of like better ethic.
I enjoy fun and being alone and being with my family,
then I more so than I do sort of like
getting after it like Kate, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (54:11):
She gets oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's too.
Speaker 4 (54:14):
Much, like let's hang out.
Speaker 5 (54:16):
It's okay to not It's okay.
Speaker 6 (54:18):
Though your Kate's chart is pure ambition. Your son is
in the tenth house Capricorn.
Speaker 5 (54:24):
Moon, like you know, and your this lifetime is a
little more of a chill one for you. Oliver, like
were you cut? It's okay?
Speaker 6 (54:32):
Like making space for quiet and rest is how all
the ideas will appear for you.
Speaker 5 (54:39):
You have like Kate's chart is.
Speaker 6 (54:41):
More interactive, but for you, it's like you have to
pull back and be alone and then you can probably
do some things surprisingly quickly after.
Speaker 5 (54:49):
You have that space.
Speaker 6 (54:51):
But and your chart also is about helping people and
making a difference too, so that can look anyway you
wanted to, Like, you know, what is it?
Speaker 4 (55:03):
You know?
Speaker 5 (55:03):
Like what would you what do you what is it
that you think you're supposed to have done or be doing?
Speaker 3 (55:08):
What do you you know? What is it?
Speaker 4 (55:11):
Yeah? I don't know.
Speaker 1 (55:17):
Wait wait wait, I have to say, Oliver, you are
that person though in the family that is always like
you're you're when it's not about you, when you're not
in the center of whatever a conflict or a situation.
Speaker 2 (55:32):
When when you are, it can be very hard.
Speaker 1 (55:35):
But but when it's somebody else, you're you're you're so
peaceful and able to and able to to sort of
become the peacekeeper for it's like you're a great mediator,
you know.
Speaker 5 (55:52):
But if he's but if he's in.
Speaker 4 (55:56):
The problem, I don't well.
Speaker 6 (55:58):
The thing is when you feel judged that what is
what I probably you're saying Kate when he's in the conflict,
he thinks he's being accused, judge, blamed, and not seen accurately.
People don't see the good intentions behind what's going on.
So you're being and you're like, wait a minute, I
needed that rest, but now I'm being accused of this.
Speaker 5 (56:19):
So so you'll probably get defensive.
Speaker 4 (56:23):
Yeah, and self deprecation is huge.
Speaker 3 (56:25):
That's that's how I deal with a lot of my like,
you know, insignificant insecurities all that.
Speaker 4 (56:32):
Like said self deprecation.
Speaker 6 (56:33):
I feel like you need to embrace your role as
the Eckhartlay of the family.
Speaker 2 (56:39):
Yeah, bench for a year, just like just be.
Speaker 4 (56:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (56:46):
That ability to just be is really like a power.
It's like a superpower.
Speaker 8 (56:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (56:52):
There's this great video we have Oliver when he was
about maybe ten, and.
Speaker 1 (56:59):
He's like really like crazy crazy, and all of a sudden,
he just like stops and he goes into this like.
Speaker 4 (57:06):
Stare birthday party, like a sixth birthday party.
Speaker 1 (57:09):
And he goes into this like stare and he's like
staring out into space but like real still, it's like Allie.
Speaker 4 (57:15):
Yeah, like It's like I connected with something.
Speaker 2 (57:21):
And it was like it was like you were wild
and all of a sudden you went into this like place.
Speaker 5 (57:25):
It's like, that's so fu.
Speaker 2 (57:30):
You need to go more into that place. Yeah, that's
really so true.
Speaker 5 (57:36):
I feel like you need a deck of tarot cards.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah, I don't have to read them, but.
Speaker 2 (57:41):
I can teach you.
Speaker 6 (57:42):
Pull one a day and like just like journal on
it or whatever, think about like what you see in it.
Speaker 5 (57:49):
And read what it means.
Speaker 4 (57:50):
What is the King of cups?
Speaker 5 (57:53):
It's a sensitive man.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
Or or depending on how you read. It's also like
it can be water signs like cancer.
Speaker 4 (58:01):
It can.
Speaker 3 (58:03):
For me. When I finished Hoffman, first of all, you know,
I was psychic for two weeks, like the cleansing of
your body.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
I mean it was like I could see things and
feel things that have never felt now.
Speaker 1 (58:13):
Yeah, until he came home and tried to like diagnose me,
and I'm like, you're so off, Like what is this?
Speaker 5 (58:19):
No?
Speaker 4 (58:19):
No, oh god, well that's.
Speaker 2 (58:24):
Wrong with this, wrong with everybody. And I'm like I
feel like.
Speaker 4 (58:29):
Okay, I've done that.
Speaker 3 (58:30):
I've done it and I didn't endo that kind of
therapy and it's like, hey, you love this. She goes, no, no, no, no,
it's I was like, I was like psychic for a minute,
you know, for sure, and the King of Cups, this
king started coming.
Speaker 4 (58:46):
He was my sort of spirit guy when you go
through the process, and it.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Looked like the King of Cups, and all of a sudden,
like the King of Cups, he starts popping up and
it was I read about it and I was like,
oh my god, this is connecting.
Speaker 4 (58:58):
So much with card.
Speaker 8 (59:01):
I know what it is.
Speaker 1 (59:03):
It is, well, I think like if you were to
look at the card and I can show you and
you can read about the King of Cups, it's like
it's like the opposite of both of.
Speaker 2 (59:13):
Our paternal figures. It's the caring father. Well, well, no
we have we have a very caring father, very Careyeah,
he's really King of Cups, but he well but he's
also he's he's not I see.
Speaker 1 (59:31):
Kurtis more of like a sword, even though he is
a pisce. He's like his energy is directive. It's it's action.
It's he's action oriented.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
And there's one specific card where he's like the King
of Cups, where he's like sitting on a rock and
there's like a fish under him and like a boat
going or in the distance, and.
Speaker 4 (59:52):
I mean everything everything was me.
Speaker 6 (59:55):
There's so much we we actually we put your chart
with So we made this little tool that puts your
chart in a blender. We wrote a book about it
called the Astrology Advantage and it's uh. It basically takes
your whole chart and whittles you down to an archetype
so you can.
Speaker 5 (01:00:11):
Just remember one thing and.
Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
Oliver you are.
Speaker 5 (01:00:18):
Well. Kate you're the tide.
Speaker 6 (01:00:19):
Turner, and Oliver you're the wind shifter, which means that
most of your planets are air signs. So if we
take the sum total of your chart, and they're also
cardinal signs, which we call the innovator. So air needs
to breeze around and blow, so like you're you come.
(01:00:42):
Both of you have a very like significant role the
tide turner, so you're mostly water. Actually, Kate tho are
we're the same as us, So your cart both have
very cardinal heavy charts, which are pioneers, trailblazers, interested in
like new ideas, new concepts, being on the edge. But
(01:01:03):
you do it in just slightly different ways. Like Kate
will go like put her dive in wholeheartedly. You know,
not that you're not both paths, you know, but Oliver,
you just might need a lot of variety too. You
might need a lot of conversations, a lot of thinking,
a lot more intellectualizing, where Kate might be more about intuiting.
(01:01:24):
That's why you're so into all the all the fun
harro astro stuff like us.
Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
Yeah, wait, what did you call you a wind a
wind shifter?
Speaker 2 (01:01:34):
A wind shift?
Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Yeah, we'll send you the calca And then the.
Speaker 6 (01:01:39):
Tie turner is mostly cardinal, so you're in mostly water
signs like somebody who comes in Well, if you do
want to describe it, yeah, you you know, you come
in and feel out the situation and then shift it
in the right direction.
Speaker 5 (01:01:54):
So yeah, you're both.
Speaker 6 (01:01:56):
You're both people who come into a room and change
the vibe ape of it with that, you know. But
we might do it more through like feeling everyone out
and getting their details, and oll of them might just
be like okay, I can see what you need and
more advice.
Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
See that way, that's why we throw great parties. We
just like turn and ship like we just.
Speaker 4 (01:02:21):
Just take controls the til the wind at the party and.
Speaker 5 (01:02:25):
Let's go sailing. Here and then watch out for the
beach and everything that lives on it.
Speaker 4 (01:02:32):
Exactly exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:02:37):
Okay, this is this is too long and too much
fun that we're gonna have to split this into two,
two you know episodes. You're going to go into your
thinking cave and I'm gonna say that it's time we
need to pause, and.
Speaker 2 (01:02:57):
Then we're going to do a party.
Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Just just hang on to seconds and then I'm back
for the second.
Speaker 2 (01:03:03):
Because it's too much fun. Thank you for listening.
Speaker 4 (01:03:06):
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 6 (01:03:10):
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Crime Junkie
Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.