June 23, 2025 • 46 mins
Ike and Jon Barinholtz are the brotherly brains behind several of your favorite shows, including Kate's 'Running Point!'
The brothers talk about growing up in a funny family and how certain SNL alumni played a part in their road to success. How did they know Hollywood was waiting for their brand of comedy when they were just a couple of cubs from Chicago?
Plus, prepare to laugh out loud when the Barinholtz brothers take us behind-the-scenes for an unscripted take on scripted entertainment!
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
sibling railval No, no, sibling, you don't do that with
your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hi baby, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Are you writing the show right now?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Is?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, sir, Yester, Yeah, writing Room two.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I literally texted me the other day that he wrote
something that's so funny. I'm not going to be able
to get through.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I know there is a scene that we're not going
to be able to complete because it's like you and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Scott MacArthur and plastic surgery. It's it's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh my god, let me wait, let me guess Kate
tells Scotty that he has to have under eye bag
surgery because there's that's the thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
I I remember I went to go see my esthetician
because I got some baggage, and I remember saying to him, like,
is there anything I could kind of do, like to
kind of get rid of these and like, without flinching,
he goes plastic surgery and I was like, you don't
have like a tinted cream or something.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh you guys, this is so fun.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
We were supposed to do this, I think, like right
around COVID.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yes, a thousand years ago, and we didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But now look look where we've come.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Look what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
John?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I don't know anything about you, Johnny.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
They didn't know you had a brother. I had a brother.
They had no idea. It was just like I never
mentioned you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know, what's that little fluffy dog that's popping up right?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I remember this dog.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I remember this dog.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, that's a baby. But I cut all his hair off.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It looks better though, now yeah, yeah, yeah, I realized.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
To date because I didn't do it. This is like
my natural hair. Let's just take a good look at
it because you'll never see it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I didn't mention.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I didn't mention that you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Take it in.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I like when you first came on, we're doing our
little beginning thing, Like I was like, what is this?
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
John?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I feel like I know you. I met you before, right,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I must, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I don't know if we like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I feel like I feel like I know you don't
know how I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
John doesn't leave.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, ha, I hang up my wife's office.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
She doesn't want him there. She's trying to get him
to leave, but he's like, no, I'll not just hang
out here today, honey.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You guys, where did so you grew up in Chicago?
And how many years a part of you?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
We're six? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wow, which is like that's like a that's that's a
pretty big gap.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's healthy.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was like that thing
where it's like I remember when he was born and
like the first like three four years, it was like, oh,
we're like best friends and we're going on adventures. And
then like at some point, like I'm like eleven or twelve,
and I'm like I need I need to see tits. Yeah,
I can't be dealing with this baby shits.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But like you but you know what I mean, Like
that's six years.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
There's a point where you're like, oh, man, like like
I obviously like love my brother, but like you're like
I need to like I'm I'm a teenager now and
I Bob, I'm gonna go with my friends.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't want to situation.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, where there's like now like we're not like infringing
on each other's fringe groups.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
And then like we as you know, we got older.
I remember when I was like, you know, twenty or
so and Johnny's a teenager. Then it's like you become
friends again. You have like you become like best friends again.
You have a gap where like when one of you
is going through puberty, the other one still playing with
two ways, and then the switch happens and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Pretty Did you go to college?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I went to Boston University for one year?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yeah, and they were like you have to leave, you
can't be here anymore. I was like, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fine with me, so and then you just did you
go home or did you start your life? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I went back home and I knew I wanted to act,
but I didn't know like how to apply that at all,
you know. And then I saw this improv show, the
Improv Olympics, I think tenth anniversary show, and I saw
like Amy and Tim Meadows was so so so funny,
Chris Farley, and I was like, oh, you want to
(05:07):
do this? So I signed up for it. I remember
Johnny was like, John you were like thirteen or twelve
or something, probably when I started, and so he would
come to see the shows and stuff, and I remember,
like Johnny was a much better student than me. He
is much more focused, just a better person. The college
athlete ship and he went to college and went to
(05:29):
four years and was like a you know, captain of
the running team all the shit. And I was like, oh,
thank god, because it wasn't going great for me at
that time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I was like, oh, this is.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So nice, like you know what I mean, he was
gonna have a nice, stable career something. And then he
was like I remember him like he's like, yeah, I
really wanted to improv and DAGs And I was like.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh my, who, by the way, is a lawyer. I
mean your dad, your dad is a lawyer.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What does your mom? What did your mom do? Was
she did?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
She mom? When we were little, she worked, and then
as we got a little older, she was like hardcore
like head of the PTA, like did all the fundraising
for you know, our schools and stuff. And so you know,
we're very very close with them, and they're very they're
like too supportive of us, you know what I mean.
(06:24):
Like I said, it's a bad show.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
The story.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Most show be stories were like my parents. I told
them I want my dad beat this ship out of me.
I never spoke to me had this oscar and we're
just like our parents are like, oh, this is great.
You guys should They were theater majors in Ohio state,
so they were like, very cool.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, your dad who plays Bernie our lawyer and was
on the jury or what was it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The jur jury Jury Duty? Yeah, and and and in studio.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Yes, he's got a little uh little cameon. Little cameo
is a projectionist. In an episode, he got cast a
Jury Duty and he him and my mom moved to
l A and now he is a full time last.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
There is a string of like more than both of
us for like a period of like six months. When
he first moved out there, he like he booked right away.
That's not the same but.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, but no, but it was I remember like when
Jerry Judy came out, Oh my god, he he told me,
he goes, you know, he goes one of my cast
members and Jury Duty told me that I'm the biggest
star of all and I go, what the fuck are
you talking about? What is that? What does that mean?
He goes the because they they counted they keep track
(07:44):
of it. And I'm like, dude, what what do you mean?
And I finally realized he meant no, the star meter,
the IMDb Star meter, And I was like, do you
mean the IMDb Star Meter. He goes, yes, they told
me I'm on there, and I was like, oh, he goes,
can you can you show me how this works? And
(08:04):
I was like, I was like, I was like, I
don't know how like accurate this is. Don't I was
basically want to say, don't, like, don't be upset if
you're number nine million, like it's fine. And we looked
on there and he was considerably higher than John and myself.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I were like, oh oh, and then I was like, yeah,
well that shit, it's bullshit. Anyways, it's like whatever, there's
like ten people on there who were hot whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean, does your does your dad even have to
audition anymore? Is he just like he's like no audition.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
No, He's still fucking auditioning, because he'll come over sometimes
when I'm like cooking for the family and everyone's coming
over and I got the potatoes, and I'll be like,
whenever you have a few minutes, if you could put
me on tape in the backyard for Mike Sure's news show.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That would be really helpful.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
All right, Ollie John knows this, but the world I
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The world knows this.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
But Ike is a massive foodie and loves loves loves
to cook.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh good, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I love to cook.
I have two traggers, a green egg and a Sanamay grill.
Like I like that, Like that's your own barbecue pretty much.
I mean, you know this is I might have to
because this fucking business is pretty lean for me.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When I made some ribs last night, they were fucking amazing.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
You know, are you are you straight smoking them or
is it like a combination smoke finish on the grill smoke, I.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Do this, I do this, this tammy, this tamar and
sauce on that.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I grill the ribs. Yeah, make that homemade. But this
was just like you know, it was individuals. I cut
them up so I could season, Yeah, and I did.
I did like three racks. You know, it was like
two hours. Then cover it with you know, butter and
and brown sugar and all that, and a couple hours
(10:11):
a half an hour to tack it up.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And this is and this is strictly kosher.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Fully kosher, but on the rips.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
John and I are both glock kosher.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Are you are you like a fine dying cook or
do you like what's your deal?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I love like John came over with his kids this
weekend for Mother's Day and I made, uh what I make?
I mad chicken cutlets. These are very nice chicken cutlets.
Like I'm very blank. I take a lot like it's
like a proprietary bread mixture, bread crub. It's like a
whole thing. And I made like mashed potatoes, and like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You, I would I would say you're like you cook
like rustic, very like it's it's less like it's like
you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Always tweet with like animal science, like pick.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Up food just like throwing on the Yeah, try try this.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So wait you guys growing up you grew up in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Were you you in the suburbs?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
No, We're like in the city, like right near Wrigley.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Field kind of really And dad was active lawyer, what
kind of lawyer?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Personal injury? And then he did some defense work for Metra,
which was like he was he was.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
A vagina lawyer. He only represented vaginas. The bus ads
were very embarrassing from our family, but it paid for
our education. So we're proud of We're proud of every
last one of those vaginas. But yeah, No, he was
a lawyer and was very like I think he loved
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being a lawyer. I do. And and we would go
to his office a lot. We worked there over the
summers and stuff. And like John, John, you worked there
more than me, I think, right, you worked there and
you dealt with a lot more of his clients, which I.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Done a lot of clients.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well how old are your guys? Do
you guys all have both have kids?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I have three girls? Three girls?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How old are the girls?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Nine, and twelve and five?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And I have a three year old boy.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Okay, we've blown it with the oldest one, like we
let her watch like she watched some of White Lotus
with us, you know which at one point, like at
one point I pause.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's like go to bed.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
By the way, fun fact this season of White Lotus,
the inspiration for Patrick Schwartzenaker and his brother was me
and John. No one knows this, No one, We're telling
you guys, No one has heard this yet, this is exclusive.
Oh my god, point about our relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Give I mean imagine you know you but your Schwarzenegger
and you get the job and he was crying. It's
the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You have no idea what's coming up? How different did
you grow up in Chicago than the MacArthur boys.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I mean, honestly straight, you know, in a way incredibly
parallel because they grew up very close to us, Like
Bruce lived, Yeah, Bruce lived at a thirty.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Just for context for listeners, Scottie MacArthur's, who plays nests
on Running Point and I are showrunner writer grew up together.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yes, and his older brother Hayes is one of my
best friends.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
So like like they grew up very close to us.
We went to the same schools for a long time.
You know, we weren't like a wealthy family. We were fine.
We didn't have like.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Our circles were the same. Our parents' social circles were different.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I would say, yeah, like the parent social circles were.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like, so were you were you were you friends with
the MacArthur's as kids?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I met Oh yeah, no, I
met Hayes we were at sports camp on the bus
in like god, like sixth grade maybe fifth grade, and
he Hayes always tells the story. I'll tell this to
like waiters when we're at dinner. Like we pulled up
at a red light and there was like a couple
of like older teenage girls and like I opened the
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window and I was like, you know, I say what's up, baby,
and one of them went like and like put it
on her ass, and Hayes was like came over, was
like that was awesome, man, And like we became friends
after that, and even though he ended up going to
a different school in Scotty and that they went to
boarding schools, we just kept in touch. And then when
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I moved to La, Hayes was living here, and then
Scotty moved and then Johnny moved.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So it's really kind of sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
We have like these and now the I.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
He literally sent me a video the other day of
like a mountain lion like in his backyard. He's like, oh,
but I was like, you.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Know, and it's trying to get everyone to move. He's like,
what are you guys doing fucking La?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yeah, Like I would live here, sir, My family lives here.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Where you have a house.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wait, I got one thing. Because you said the title
of your show, I say the title of the show
that Kate's.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
And I just want to hear you say running point.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, you said it correctly. It's your show. Everyone says
running point, but it's running.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Point running point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but everyone says in the cast. Because we had
Brenda on as well and she's like running point. I'm like, wait,
hold on, it's running point.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
It's one of those things where I remember being in
the room and we were deciding between different options and
I was just like, guys, running point is a phrase
that everyone knows.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It works on two levels.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Everyone. You can go to fucking like American Samoa and
talk to like one of the natives there and they'll
be like, oh yeah, ready point.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And there's been multiple people that are like what does
it mean?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Or they'll be like I love point blank and I'm
like what, I love running Man, and I'm like running point.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Where did you did you have other titles that were
in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Yeah, we had we had one that I I love,
like I think it was like the front office, Like
that was one, and then I don't even remember there
was There was a.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Few, but the Waves, oh yeah, there was one.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
There was when we.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Were like do we just call it the Waves or
then there was Front.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
There was also one of the Gordons of l A.
At one point, I remember we were talking about it,
but then we think it sounded too much like a
Bravo show. Yeah exactly, so, Yeah, but Running Point just
always felt like it hit the.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
D You guys make any any play to license NBA
or is it just an impossibility?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
No.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
In fact, when we first came aboard, I think that
the the thinking was, well, this will be an NBA
partnership situation, and we obviously love the NBA, and with
that you get a lot of perks, right, you get
like you get the real logos and the uniforms and
all that stuff. But with that also comes a lot
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of legal stuff, like everything everything has to be cleared. Yeah,
and then it also like strangely messes up the time
space continuum because like, yeah, you know what I mean,
if we were the Lakers, we wouldn't have like Lebron
and Austin Reeves available to shoot, so we would have
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like another Ross, So it would mess up the universe.
So we really were hartful that it would be. We
were able to create. And it's fun too. Whenever we
like are writing a story, we're like, oh, oh, they're
playing the They're playing the team from Memphis. Ooh, the
Memphis Hot Chickens.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know what I know whatever, We've literally created a whole,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
A new league.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
We could do it. We could do fifty spinoffs, fifty states,
fifty cities, different families that own it. Amazing, that would
be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I like that idea pretty good.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Well, the four of us own it now because we
said it on this podcast legally bulletproof.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So when did you guys get like the sort of bug,
like the creative artsy bug, like I'm going to write,
I want to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I want to be in front of the camera or
on stage.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
John, what do you think? Well, you did it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You came back. We always like like performing in front
of our parents. But but I when I came back
from college, like you said, he did, I own So
you jumped into it like them. So I was in
seventh grade when you jumped into it.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I mean when we were when we were young, though,
we would do like little like skits on the yeah,
and like, you know what.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
An old radio show between us? Remember that.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, I think we have a tape where we do.
We're like, we're like doing a radio show one of us.
This is true. I think one of the pants.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I think no, no, no, no, no, no no, two different stories.
That's we're we're performing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I wasn't thinking that was where the story.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We were performing bamba on tennis rackets and I remember
what the movie was Hot guys. The movie was just
out of was Hot, was very big bomba hot hot,
And we were playing rackets, and I remember wanting to
finish song and we were very close to the end,
and I like the second we finished. I shipped my pants.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
When Chicago, Yeah, yeah, you from Chicago shipped their pants
more disproportionately than people.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Pants before.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I live, no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
For sure, I think everyone shipped their pants.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I don't think Kate has. But other than that, well,
it's a story. I won't thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The story that I will not tell.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I remember being in college and knowing for archaeology and
the department like folded when I went out there and
I took a creative writing class and loved it. And
I remember calling Ike from after a race my sophomore
year I ran in college, and I remember saying him like, hey,
I'm gonna go back to Chicago. I know what I
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want to do, and he talked me out of it,
and I'm really glad he did go. Now, there's no
point in finishing, like, just finish it off. There's two
years left, just get it done. And I did that
and very happy I did it sent me on like
a good timeline. I also wasn't ready to come out yet.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Also, just to be clear, when I did that, I
was like twenty three, I was living in LA I
was a bus boy. It was the worst time in
my life kind of because that was like I couldn't
get an audition for a fucking Quizno's commercially, you know
what I mean. Like it was horrible. And I loved
my brother, and I was like, I don't want you
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to go through what I'm going through because yeah, it's
not gonna work. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I was very happy I
stayed in and like did it the right way and
like went back to Chicago and did four years there
and came out to LA. I just knew. I knew
I was going to do it.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
And then by the time he was ready, he went
through the Chicago thing. He had, you know, done some
training stuff at Steppenwolf and stuff. At that point, I
was on a TV show. It's like, oh, bro, come
out here, man, it's great.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's so.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Then he moved out here and then my TV show
and I had three years where no one would hire me,
and I was like, this count sucks. It's over and
Johnson great, I'm really glad I'm here now. Moza, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Did you guys live together?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
No, I was. Ike was already with his wife by
the time.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I'm oh, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, so we never lived together,
but we, you know, we it's as you guys know,
there's nothing like having your sibling in the city you
live in.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Man.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
It's like it's it changes everything. It makes you feel.
It makes you feel so much more at home. You know,
this is not our It wasn't at my home. And
now that he'sier, especially now that my family's here, it's like, oh, yeah, cat,
LA is my home.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Did you meet your wife in LA?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I met my wife in a very romantic little town
in uh western of I don't call it Las Vegas. Yeah.
We met at the hard Rock Casino.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah? Literally, I'm telling you. We met in two thousand
and five during the World Series and I was with
like my fantasy football league and she was with like
a bachelorette party. And I remember talking to her and
you know, it's like, oh, what are you doing tonight?
The White Sox are playing. She's like, I'm a huge
White Sox fan. I'm like, so am I And we
watched the White Sox game and like, you know, the
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Pope was there and and like, you know, whatever things happened,
and and then she moved back to New York and
I was still in LA so I would go to
I would fly to New York like every other weekend
to go see her for like months. And then then
I moved to New York and then she moved to LA.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh that's cool. So you met in Vegas. Oh yeah,
had a fucking crazy fun basil.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yes, I love Vegas.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I really like when I get there, I have like
a crazy energy where I like I and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I just got oh god, I you in Vegas is
like a disaster.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh it's so it's much fun. It's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Our grandfather, our grandfather lost in Vegas. Really oh everything.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
He was a very successful He was like one of
the first used car salesman because cars were still new
when he went into business. So like he like owned Chicago,
like the car scene.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He owned a bunch of Christler dealerships.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Very successful and he like he lost like like everything everything.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah, he was like Wow, he was a big gambler.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But he was so cool.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Like I remember, like my dad and I went first
time I went to Vegas. We went to one of
the hotels he used to stay at and he had
been dead for twenty years. And when my dad checked in,
the guy behind the desk told the manager of the
manager came over, shook my dad's hand.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Was like, oh, we're gonna hook you guys up. It
was like yeah, it was it was a really cool guy.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
We're gonna look you up.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Will you send me a picture of your grandpa.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That I want to see what he looks like.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He looked like Tom Sizemore and stay in private Ryan.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh my god, did he ever handsome?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh my god, wait, I have to see Wow, hold
on I.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Can't handsome man. Yeah he was. He was yeah yeah yeah,
wow yeah, very very cool.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Took a bullet, took a bullet at Normandy.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Did he really did. He was like like D day
plus like eight, he was like Wave five or something.
But yeah it took one. Like but yeah, very very
cool guy four four heart attacks like the most Chicago
guy ever.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Yeah he was cool. He was cool. And his wife
our grandmother, God bless her still with us, you guys.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Just one wow, yes.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, we just went to go visit her, like I
brought two of my girls to go see here a
couple of months ago. And it's so funny. I now
want to live a very long life because I've learned
that when you get to a certain age, all you
have to do all day is watch TIV Yeah, and
(26:31):
that is I'm not even playing.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
With you, guys. I want to wake up, have a
little breakfast, and then just go to the couch and
just watch TV all day.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That's like my goal.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Are you able to watch TV given how busy you
are or you like you can't or do you every night? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I always try if I get if I'm home not
too late. Uh, like ten minutes of basketball random basket
ball game and then one one half hour show like
right now you are you guys watching the rehearsal? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean it started at dude genius and he what
(27:17):
he's doing this season is so it's crascinating and funny
and it's like a long con basically it's a long
con slash social experiment. But it's a combination of real
people and actors. So it's not like it's not like
it's like a prank.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
It's like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
It's more like the amount of resources throwing to nothingness.
It's one of the funniest.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
The episode episode three, I think, like not to give
it away, but like the baby thing happens, the funniest
thing I've seen like in a while. So you I
do like to watch a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Have you guys worked together, Yeah, we have.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
He play I directed and started a movie. Uh and
he played my brother in it. This was six years ago,
seven years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I've been like he had me on for like a
little bit and Mindy yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
John and Scotti were on mini project together with Dave
and I.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
We did with the Great Katie Rich on Netflix. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, we did show amate show for Netflix with Katie
and Dave Stass and some friends. So we've been in
a writer's room together and I don't think we could
get too deep into it right now because we're still
shooting it. But we have a new thing that we're
working on with our dad that we've been kind of
the last the last few months, which has been hoously
(28:48):
been like so much fun and so great. But again,
like you have to allow more patients when you're working
with a parent.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well to ask that, like what's the working dynamic?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What about your brothers?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, like you know what about directing John? John was
directed by Ike was in.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
The movie No No, because like I think, like again
like like full trust in yea, his instincts and everything.
So like yeah, also and this thing we directed each
other and and we both directed our dad in it,
and there's definitely more patience between us.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
We also have the exact same sensibility. Yeah, and there's
that weird sibling thing where like he can come up
and be like, hey do that thing where you go, yeah,
you know, I'll do it, but you know exactly like
that not even shorthand no hand yeah, yeah, dad is
trickier because a he's our dad, but also he's like
a seventy three year old man. So like we'll be
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on a zoom, you know, with like eighteen people and
like just like a production meeting, and like his audio
will go out for like half a second and John
John will be in the middle of aug about something
and my dad goes, Okay, I can't hear. I can't
hear anything.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Did you hear me working?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's working?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Now, you don't have to be on the call, Like,
just let me. I have to get through this stuff.
I have to get through.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean you guys should be documenting that, you know.
It's just that's funny too, just the behind the scenes
of you too and the dad trying to make a
show together. Its fucking funny.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Like he really, he's very charmed and he's so happy and.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
She's the sweetest man ever.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Sow.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There's this moment in Running Point where.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I'm sorry, where we were shooting, where you know, he
comes in and the whole thing was like that he's
you know, can be kind of handsy and and I
said to Ike, I'm like, he should kiss me on
the lips.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Told my dad. I go, hey, on this next tape,
I kissed Kate on the lips. He goes, I can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Washed and really nervous, and I was like, listen, hey, hey,
calm down, it's her idea. He goes, really, oh, oh,
I remember our our, our wonderful sweet late uncle Harold,
wonderful man. Uh big wet lips.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I remember he.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Came to l A and took Dave and I Dave
Stass to night, to dinner, and at the end of
dinner he gave me a hugg kiss and he turns
to Dave, who he had just met, and goes, goodbye, honey,
and gave Dave and David says, we did it. Dave
was like a hardcore gentile.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Like the emotion old Jewish come here.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Nothing drunk older people love more than saying goodbye goodbye everyone,
like photographers walking away.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I feel like I'm that older person.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Now we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm definitely that person.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You guys, I am. I am fucking old. I have
bursitis in my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You do what is that?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
It's like you have like bursa that are like little
kind of sacks around, like the little ball sacks kind
of and you're basically imagine here, I's got a bunch
of testicles and yeah, it's like it's like when they
get inflamed.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Basically it happens. It's a sports injury, right.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You have.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I guess I'm an athlete.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I could talk to you guys forever.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
But we do have a thing that we say to
each other after every.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
After every interview. Rare question, Yeah, I'll you ask.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but before we before before I was want to
talk about the studio really quickly, and like you, I
was just talking about you today. You like it's kind
of happening. You kind of fucking did it, you know
what I mean, Like you're having a real moment here.
Just shut up for a second. I'm just telling you
what's happening. Like you, I think are going to be
able to like truly carry movies, and I think that
(33:31):
this is gonna be It's happening.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I'm the luckiest person in the world. Oh my god.
Like I gotta like go and write jokes for your
sister with Dave and Mindy, and then I gotta go
dick around with Seth and yeah, some of those guys.
So it's so fun, it's all, but it's the whole business,
you guys. Know, you get moments of luck and you
get moments of despair, and it's it's a wave. And
I'm sure a year and a half from now, I'll
fucking be like but like you know, you know, right now.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's it's a humbling and just.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
But now that you've worked your ass off to get
to where youre are, and hopefully it keeps going and going.
But is there an added pressure to be funny and
funnier and make sure oh my god, or you just
say fuck it, I'm just gonna do what I do.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I think that I don't think there's a you know
what I mean, Like the pressure is to make sure
work is good.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But I'm so lucky.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I've also, I think all of us on this zoom
right now do understand we love our business, we care
about it, we invest our time and our energy, we
love watching it. But we also understand the difference the
balance of our families and the importance of that, and nothing,
nothing supersedes that and the relationships you have. And it's
(34:47):
a crazy planet right now. A lot it's very hot
and it's important too, I think kind of really remember
that's the important stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, and especially with everyone's success, it's about sort of
prioritizing that. Got your three girls, Like it's as busy
as you are. You obviously your dad first. You want
to make sure that you cater to that one. That's
all that and that can get tough at being busy. Yeah, yeah,
(35:15):
miss miss Ship, especially.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
If you're an actor, you're gonna go do a movie.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We went, we did a panel. We were doing this
like deadline panel. I get on FaceTime and Ike is
at Bristol Farms picking up food so that he can
feed his kids before he has to go do something else.
You're the best dad, and I love and I love
what you're saying. I love what you're saying because John, John,
(35:40):
I'm sure you are an amazing father as well, because
because you guys grew up like it's I think we
all are very kindred.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
A little more little more like.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Balance, very disciplinary.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah yeah, very rough.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
No, but you're right, okay, Like it's like we're so
lucky to grow up in the house as we did
where you know, our parents just they they were just
nice people.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
First they were like nice and and so you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Know it comes from siblings to Like I don't know
if you guys listen to Daily or listen to the
Today's Daily was about this new book called The Power
of Siblings. Yeah, and it's like it's amazing. Have you like,
have you read it?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Now, but but I just I just read about it.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Wow, that's not that's how far I got read about it.
I'm like, it's like I'm like right away, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's crazy how much your siblings influence you and your
behavior and like without even knowing it, like they.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just more so than your parents.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Can I just feel a quick imitation of Michael Barbara
on The Daily, John just say what the book's about.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So this book is about how our siblings influence and
inform our lives than our child.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
And I really did a sound button.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Love you keep me.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
All right? Last question before the wonder that you guys shot,
how many takes did you do?
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Oh my god? They shot it in four chunks. And
what they would do is I think they're planning on
we can cheat stuff. But that house that's a famous house,
that's a John Latner house called silver Top and it's
all window. So we would show up at like nine
and we would rehearse until like magic hours. So we
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would rehearse all day until like four thirty or five,
and then shoot as many takes as we could for
Chunk one until the sun came down. And some days
we got to shot. There was one day where we
didn't get it. It was a little heartbreaking, but it was.
It was really intense.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Did anyone fuck up?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Oh my god? So many times? I like, and when
you fuck up like we've all do, were you fuck
up like a complicated shot? Yeah, you're just like all
of a sudden, like our steady cam operator who has
been like on his feet for like eighteen hours.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Or I'm sorry I was.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I was talking about that with Catherine Hahn. We did
like the actors on Actors Thing for Variety, and I
were talking about improv, like imagine being the asshole who
like has the improv line that like.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Everything you're talking to that asshole, I know it would
have been you, of course, as I decided to throwing
a totally new line that none of you been heard before.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
It was a cue line. I'm sorry about that. Let's
go again.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh god, So here here's the last question, right, it's
a two parter. If you could uh alleviate something from
your brother, something that you could take away from his
life that would make it just a little bit better.
What would it be? And on the flip side of that,
if you could take something from him, if you could emulate.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Something, I would. I'll go first.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I would alleviate stress, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Like John I think sometimes carries stress differently than I did,
always have since he was a boy.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
He's able to.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Manifest it incredibly well.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
And like, but you could tell you know your brother
better than you know yourself, I would steal. It's like
two sides of one coin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Because what I would emulate from him is his patience.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Which is I don't have that, Like I am a
little little bitch and he is just he is so
like poised and calm and even when bad things happen,
the way he handles it and carries himself, it's just
like I could never do that. So there you go,
beat that, Johnny, you fucking pick.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I want his nikes? No he Uh. My answer was
also weirdly gonna be stress, which I could take away
the stress and uh, I guess like I wish I
could give uh, be able to give him more time
to because I feel like he's incredibly packed with time
of like you said, Ali of like parenting and working
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and like alleviate some of that pressure and stress.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
And my my emulator is like it's such a stupid one.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
But like he is, I would love to be, like
I can. I think it's okay to say this. Uh, I.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Can.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I can smoke weed and and like be like talk
to the president and and like I love I love smoking,
but I can't like leave my house if I do
it anymore. I just like and I feel like I'm
so so he can he's he's so. I think that's
like the thing is like being so comfortable in his
(41:01):
own skin, and you can do that across like being
in any any state of inebriation or like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
You can smell I can smell ike from like you know,
stage stage.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Because when I was like I love that, I was
like I want to my brother's patience and soul is
so beautiful, and he's like he has a drug problem.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
The root of mine is being comfortable in his own skin,
like and being able to like rite but.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Like when you're high. You just wish you didn't have
panic attacks going out when you're.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
My friend.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I feel like whether like forget the high thing, whether
he's talking to like really like the head of whatever
he can be talking like the head of the u
N or like like you know, his gardener, and like
it is the same level of comfortability with both, and
that's like such a cool thing.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, you smoke with butros. Butros, Golly, that would
be a great stone session, I mean, very good.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Quick question.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Do you have the same ability like your brother does
with like Jeopardy?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Do you can you?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah? I think I got the trivia thing. I got
the trivia thing too.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's a weird thing, so weird, but I'm looking at
I'm looking at well, I can tell you why he's
better than me, because we're in a daily trivia league
and we're in the same group this year, and I
am currently number twelve, and you could see right there
a number three Jay barronhol.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh wow, well does the trivia league work. It's just
like a question to day.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
No, it's it's uh, it's it's it's every season, so
it's four times a year and it's like three weeks
or four weeks each time, and every day you get
an email that has six questions and they're they're like,
pretty Hardt's there's some I'm like, I have no no
clue the.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Average correct If you get two in a day, you're like,
that's good.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
But what you do is you're going head to head
against other people in the group and you score their
points so you can look and see, like, oh, Oliver
is really good at like sports and literature, but he's
bad at like science and geography. This geography question, if
he gets it right, I'm going to give him a
high value, you know what I mean. So there's an
(43:21):
extra wrinkle to it. It's really really really.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Awful.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Guy who heard my last name and he was like,
are you Jay Barrenholts. I'm like yeah, he's like, I'm
t Bouers. We're in the same rundle, Like like you
only know the last name.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Run Wait a minute, But is it just on the
honor system that you don't just look it up?
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be hard for me.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
They do a smart thing though. They make you check
a box saying I certify that I have told the
truth that I didn't cheat. That's strangely Books Yeah, that
would hurt.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, I would never be able to do anything like that.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
I've asked, I've asked you some of the questions before.
You've got a couple of them, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I definitely want to. I wish, I wish I did.
Think we should do more things like that, Alie. Yeah,
I guess be a part of like clubs.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I just got reading let me one step at a time.
I just figured out reading.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, we love you guys.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
You guys a great season two.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Love you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Everybody's counting on you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I'm excited you guys. Great work, great work John. I
love all for you, John talking.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
We'll see you again if.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
You all love you all.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Love you baby babe. Oh, I know, I'm so lucky.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Oh you're so lucky in La working with the greatest people.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
They're so great, laugh our butts off all day.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You have hit the jack.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
I know, I'm so I really this is what I
do those moments where I feel like, like, what do
you do in your life to actually or what have
you done in a past life to actually be able
to experience that kind of joy in this life? You know,
because that's what it feels like it and it's so
much fun and yun.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
And he's so smart, and everybody's so smart.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
I always try to say, you know, just because it
looks easy and effortless doesn't mean that that's what it is.
It's just it's just there's so much work involved and
he works so hard.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
It's and it's just, yeah, it's the best.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, I'm about to go see a baby. I'm going
to go see my new niece on a fujikaw side.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I love you, okay,
Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
sibling railval No, no, sibling, you don't do that with
your mouth.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Revelry. That's good.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Hi baby, what's up?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Are you writing the show right now?
Speaker 4 (00:43):
Is?
Speaker 1 (00:44):
Yes, sir, Yester, Yeah, writing Room two.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
I literally texted me the other day that he wrote
something that's so funny. I'm not going to be able
to get through.
Speaker 6 (00:57):
I know there is a scene that we're not going
to be able to complete because it's like you and.
Speaker 3 (01:02):
Scott MacArthur and plastic surgery. It's it's nice.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Oh my god, let me wait, let me guess Kate
tells Scotty that he has to have under eye bag
surgery because there's that's the thing for me.
Speaker 6 (01:25):
I I remember I went to go see my esthetician
because I got some baggage, and I remember saying to him, like,
is there anything I could kind of do, like to
kind of get rid of these and like, without flinching,
he goes plastic surgery and I was like, you don't
have like a tinted cream or something.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Oh you guys, this is so fun.
Speaker 6 (01:46):
We were supposed to do this, I think, like right
around COVID.
Speaker 5 (01:50):
Yes, a thousand years ago, and we didn't.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
But now look look where we've come.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Look what's happening.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Where are you right now?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
John?
Speaker 1 (02:01):
I don't know anything about you, Johnny.
Speaker 6 (02:06):
They didn't know you had a brother. I had a brother.
They had no idea. It was just like I never
mentioned you.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
You know, what's that little fluffy dog that's popping up right?
Speaker 6 (02:19):
Come on?
Speaker 3 (02:19):
I remember this dog.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
I remember this dog.
Speaker 1 (02:22):
Yeah, that's a baby. But I cut all his hair off.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
It looks better though, now yeah, yeah, yeah, I realized.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
To date because I didn't do it. This is like
my natural hair. Let's just take a good look at
it because you'll never see it.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
I didn't mention.
Speaker 6 (02:35):
I didn't.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
I didn't mention that you.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Take it in.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
I like when you first came on, we're doing our
little beginning thing, Like I was like, what is this?
What's happening?
Speaker 6 (02:49):
John?
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I feel like I know you. I met you before, right,
I mean.
Speaker 4 (02:53):
I must, I don't know.
Speaker 6 (02:57):
I don't know if we like, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I feel like I feel like I know you don't
know how I don't know.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
John doesn't leave.
Speaker 4 (03:05):
No, ha, I hang up my wife's office.
Speaker 6 (03:10):
She doesn't want him there. She's trying to get him
to leave, but he's like, no, I'll not just hang
out here today, honey.
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Things.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
You guys, where did so you grew up in Chicago?
And how many years a part of you?
Speaker 6 (03:23):
We're six? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (03:25):
Wow, which is like that's like a that's that's a
pretty big gap.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
That's healthy.
Speaker 6 (03:29):
Yeah, yeah, yeah it was. It was like that thing
where it's like I remember when he was born and
like the first like three four years, it was like, oh,
we're like best friends and we're going on adventures. And
then like at some point, like I'm like eleven or twelve,
and I'm like I need I need to see tits. Yeah,
I can't be dealing with this baby shits.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
But like you but you know what I mean, Like
that's six years.
Speaker 6 (03:57):
There's a point where you're like, oh, man, like like
I obviously like love my brother, but like you're like
I need to like I'm I'm a teenager now and
I Bob, I'm gonna go with my friends.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
I don't want to situation.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Yeah, where there's like now like we're not like infringing
on each other's fringe groups.
Speaker 6 (04:10):
And then like we as you know, we got older.
I remember when I was like, you know, twenty or
so and Johnny's a teenager. Then it's like you become
friends again. You have like you become like best friends again.
You have a gap where like when one of you
is going through puberty, the other one still playing with
two ways, and then the switch happens and it's it's.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Pretty Did you go to college?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I went to Boston University for one year?
Speaker 6 (04:34):
Yeah, and they were like you have to leave, you
can't be here anymore. I was like, that's.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Fine with me, so and then you just did you
go home or did you start your life? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
I went back home and I knew I wanted to act,
but I didn't know like how to apply that at all,
you know. And then I saw this improv show, the
Improv Olympics, I think tenth anniversary show, and I saw
like Amy and Tim Meadows was so so so funny,
Chris Farley, and I was like, oh, you want to
(05:07):
do this? So I signed up for it. I remember
Johnny was like, John you were like thirteen or twelve
or something, probably when I started, and so he would
come to see the shows and stuff, and I remember,
like Johnny was a much better student than me. He
is much more focused, just a better person. The college
athlete ship and he went to college and went to
(05:29):
four years and was like a you know, captain of
the running team all the shit. And I was like, oh,
thank god, because it wasn't going great for me at
that time.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
I was like, oh, this is.
Speaker 6 (05:39):
So nice, like you know what I mean, he was
gonna have a nice, stable career something. And then he
was like I remember him like he's like, yeah, I
really wanted to improv and DAGs And I was like.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Oh my, who, by the way, is a lawyer. I
mean your dad, your dad is a lawyer.
Speaker 6 (05:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
What does your mom? What did your mom do? Was
she did?
Speaker 6 (06:02):
She mom? When we were little, she worked, and then
as we got a little older, she was like hardcore
like head of the PTA, like did all the fundraising
for you know, our schools and stuff. And so you know,
we're very very close with them, and they're very they're
like too supportive of us, you know what I mean.
(06:24):
Like I said, it's a bad show.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
The story.
Speaker 6 (06:25):
Most show be stories were like my parents. I told
them I want my dad beat this ship out of me.
I never spoke to me had this oscar and we're
just like our parents are like, oh, this is great.
You guys should They were theater majors in Ohio state,
so they were like, very cool.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Yeah, your dad who plays Bernie our lawyer and was
on the jury or what was it.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
The jur jury Jury Duty? Yeah, and and and in studio.
Speaker 6 (06:54):
Yes, he's got a little uh little cameon. Little cameo
is a projectionist. In an episode, he got cast a
Jury Duty and he him and my mom moved to
l A and now he is a full time last.
Speaker 4 (07:11):
There is a string of like more than both of
us for like a period of like six months. When
he first moved out there, he like he booked right away.
That's not the same but.
Speaker 6 (07:22):
Yeah, but no, but it was I remember like when
Jerry Judy came out, Oh my god, he he told me,
he goes, you know, he goes one of my cast
members and Jury Duty told me that I'm the biggest
star of all and I go, what the fuck are
you talking about? What is that? What does that mean?
He goes the because they they counted they keep track
(07:44):
of it. And I'm like, dude, what what do you mean?
And I finally realized he meant no, the star meter,
the IMDb Star meter, And I was like, do you
mean the IMDb Star Meter. He goes, yes, they told
me I'm on there, and I was like, oh, he goes,
can you can you show me how this works? And
(08:04):
I was like, I was like, I was like, I
don't know how like accurate this is. Don't I was
basically want to say, don't, like, don't be upset if
you're number nine million, like it's fine. And we looked
on there and he was considerably higher than John and myself.
Speaker 7 (08:26):
I were like, oh oh, and then I was like, yeah,
well that shit, it's bullshit. Anyways, it's like whatever, there's
like ten people on there who were hot whatever.
Speaker 2 (08:39):
I mean, does your does your dad even have to
audition anymore? Is he just like he's like no audition.
Speaker 6 (08:47):
No, He's still fucking auditioning, because he'll come over sometimes
when I'm like cooking for the family and everyone's coming
over and I got the potatoes, and I'll be like,
whenever you have a few minutes, if you could put
me on tape in the backyard for Mike Sure's news show.
Speaker 3 (09:02):
That would be really helpful.
Speaker 5 (09:04):
All right, Ollie John knows this, but the world I
don't know if.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
The world knows this.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
But Ike is a massive foodie and loves loves loves
to cook.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh good, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I love to cook.
I have two traggers, a green egg and a Sanamay grill.
Like I like that, Like that's your own barbecue pretty much.
I mean, you know this is I might have to
because this fucking business is pretty lean for me.
Speaker 6 (09:34):
Right.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
When I made some ribs last night, they were fucking amazing.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
You know, are you are you straight smoking them or
is it like a combination smoke finish on the grill smoke, I.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Do this, I do this, this tammy, this tamar and
sauce on that.
Speaker 6 (09:51):
I do that.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
I grill the ribs. Yeah, make that homemade. But this
was just like you know, it was individuals. I cut
them up so I could season, Yeah, and I did.
I did like three racks. You know, it was like
two hours. Then cover it with you know, butter and
and brown sugar and all that, and a couple hours
(10:11):
a half an hour to tack it up.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
And this is and this is strictly kosher.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Fully kosher, but on the rips.
Speaker 6 (10:19):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
John and I are both glock kosher.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Are you are you like a fine dying cook or
do you like what's your deal?
Speaker 6 (10:30):
I love like John came over with his kids this
weekend for Mother's Day and I made, uh what I make?
I mad chicken cutlets. These are very nice chicken cutlets.
Like I'm very blank. I take a lot like it's
like a proprietary bread mixture, bread crub. It's like a
whole thing. And I made like mashed potatoes, and like.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
You, I would I would say you're like you cook
like rustic, very like it's it's less like it's like
you know, it's.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Always tweet with like animal science, like pick.
Speaker 4 (11:02):
Up food just like throwing on the Yeah, try try this.
Speaker 5 (11:16):
So wait you guys growing up you grew up in Chicago.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Were you you in the suburbs?
Speaker 4 (11:22):
No, We're like in the city, like right near Wrigley.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Field kind of really And dad was active lawyer, what
kind of lawyer?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Personal injury? And then he did some defense work for Metra,
which was like he was he was.
Speaker 6 (11:38):
A vagina lawyer. He only represented vaginas. The bus ads
were very embarrassing from our family, but it paid for
our education. So we're proud of We're proud of every
last one of those vaginas. But yeah, No, he was
a lawyer and was very like I think he loved
(11:58):
being a lawyer. I do. And and we would go
to his office a lot. We worked there over the
summers and stuff. And like John, John, you worked there
more than me, I think, right, you worked there and
you dealt with a lot more of his clients, which I.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Done a lot of clients.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well how old are your guys? Do
you guys all have both have kids?
Speaker 6 (12:15):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (12:15):
I have three girls? Three girls?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
How old are the girls?
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Seven?
Speaker 6 (12:20):
Nine, and twelve and five?
Speaker 4 (12:24):
And I have a three year old boy.
Speaker 8 (12:25):
Okay, we've blown it with the oldest one, like we
let her watch like she watched some of White Lotus
with us, you know which at one point, like at
one point I pause.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
That's like go to bed.
Speaker 6 (12:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:38):
By the way, fun fact this season of White Lotus,
the inspiration for Patrick Schwartzenaker and his brother was me
and John. No one knows this, No one, We're telling
you guys, No one has heard this yet, this is exclusive.
Oh my god, point about our relationship.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
Give I mean imagine you know you but your Schwarzenegger
and you get the job and he was crying. It's
the whole thing.
Speaker 6 (13:06):
It's amazing.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You have no idea what's coming up? How different did
you grow up in Chicago than the MacArthur boys.
Speaker 6 (13:14):
I mean, honestly straight, you know, in a way incredibly
parallel because they grew up very close to us, Like
Bruce lived, Yeah, Bruce lived at a thirty.
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Just for context for listeners, Scottie MacArthur's, who plays nests
on Running Point and I are showrunner writer grew up together.
Speaker 6 (13:37):
Yes, and his older brother Hayes is one of my
best friends.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yes.
Speaker 6 (13:40):
So like like they grew up very close to us.
We went to the same schools for a long time.
You know, we weren't like a wealthy family. We were fine.
We didn't have like.
Speaker 4 (13:53):
Our circles were the same. Our parents' social circles were different.
Speaker 6 (13:56):
I would say, yeah, like the parent social circles were.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Like, so were you were you were you friends with
the MacArthur's as kids?
Speaker 6 (14:05):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah I met Oh yeah, no, I
met Hayes we were at sports camp on the bus
in like god, like sixth grade maybe fifth grade, and
he Hayes always tells the story. I'll tell this to
like waiters when we're at dinner. Like we pulled up
at a red light and there was like a couple
of like older teenage girls and like I opened the
(14:28):
window and I was like, you know, I say what's up, baby,
and one of them went like and like put it
on her ass, and Hayes was like came over, was
like that was awesome, man, And like we became friends
after that, and even though he ended up going to
a different school in Scotty and that they went to
boarding schools, we just kept in touch. And then when
(14:49):
I moved to La, Hayes was living here, and then
Scotty moved and then Johnny moved.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
So it's really kind of sweet.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
We have like these and now the I.
Speaker 6 (15:00):
He literally sent me a video the other day of
like a mountain lion like in his backyard. He's like, oh,
but I was like, you.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Know, and it's trying to get everyone to move. He's like,
what are you guys doing fucking La?
Speaker 7 (15:16):
Yeah, Like I would live here, sir, My family lives here.
Speaker 6 (15:20):
Where you have a house.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Wait, I got one thing. Because you said the title
of your show, I say the title of the show
that Kate's.
Speaker 6 (15:27):
And I just want to hear you say running point.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, you said it correctly. It's your show. Everyone says
running point, but it's running.
Speaker 4 (15:37):
Point running point. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Yeah, but everyone says in the cast. Because we had
Brenda on as well and she's like running point. I'm like, wait,
hold on, it's running point.
Speaker 6 (15:47):
It's one of those things where I remember being in
the room and we were deciding between different options and
I was just like, guys, running point is a phrase
that everyone knows.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
It works on two levels.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
Everyone. You can go to fucking like American Samoa and
talk to like one of the natives there and they'll
be like, oh yeah, ready point.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
And there's been multiple people that are like what does
it mean?
Speaker 6 (16:08):
Or they'll be like I love point blank and I'm
like what, I love running Man, and I'm like running point.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
God damn it.
Speaker 2 (16:20):
Where did you did you have other titles that were
in the mix?
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Yep?
Speaker 6 (16:24):
Yeah, we had we had one that I I love,
like I think it was like the front office, Like
that was one, and then I don't even remember there
was There was a.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
Few, but the Waves, oh yeah, there was one.
Speaker 6 (16:41):
There was when we.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Were like do we just call it the Waves or
then there was Front.
Speaker 6 (16:46):
There was also one of the Gordons of l A.
At one point, I remember we were talking about it,
but then we think it sounded too much like a
Bravo show. Yeah exactly, so, Yeah, but Running Point just
always felt like it hit the.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
D You guys make any any play to license NBA
or is it just an impossibility?
Speaker 6 (17:10):
No?
Speaker 4 (17:11):
No.
Speaker 6 (17:11):
In fact, when we first came aboard, I think that
the the thinking was, well, this will be an NBA
partnership situation, and we obviously love the NBA, and with
that you get a lot of perks, right, you get
like you get the real logos and the uniforms and
all that stuff. But with that also comes a lot
(17:33):
of legal stuff, like everything everything has to be cleared. Yeah,
and then it also like strangely messes up the time
space continuum because like, yeah, you know what I mean,
if we were the Lakers, we wouldn't have like Lebron
and Austin Reeves available to shoot, so we would have
(17:53):
like another Ross, So it would mess up the universe.
So we really were hartful that it would be. We
were able to create. And it's fun too. Whenever we
like are writing a story, we're like, oh, oh, they're
playing the They're playing the team from Memphis. Ooh, the
Memphis Hot Chickens.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
You know what I know whatever, We've literally created a whole,
you know.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
A new league.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
We could do it. We could do fifty spinoffs, fifty states,
fifty cities, different families that own it. Amazing, that would
be fun.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I like that idea pretty good.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
Well, the four of us own it now because we
said it on this podcast legally bulletproof.
Speaker 5 (18:39):
So when did you guys get like the sort of bug,
like the creative artsy bug, like I'm going to write,
I want to make people laugh.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I want to be in front of the camera or
on stage.
Speaker 6 (18:52):
John, what do you think? Well, you did it.
Speaker 4 (18:55):
You came back. We always like like performing in front
of our parents. But but I when I came back
from college, like you said, he did, I own So
you jumped into it like them. So I was in
seventh grade when you jumped into it.
Speaker 6 (19:12):
I mean when we were when we were young, though,
we would do like little like skits on the yeah,
and like, you know what.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
An old radio show between us? Remember that.
Speaker 6 (19:23):
Yeah, I think we have a tape where we do.
We're like, we're like doing a radio show one of us.
This is true. I think one of the pants.
Speaker 4 (19:31):
I think no, no, no, no, no, no no, two different stories.
That's we're we're performing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
I wasn't.
Speaker 5 (19:37):
I wasn't thinking that was where the story.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We were performing bamba on tennis rackets and I remember
what the movie was Hot guys. The movie was just
out of was Hot, was very big bomba hot hot,
And we were playing rackets, and I remember wanting to
finish song and we were very close to the end,
and I like the second we finished. I shipped my pants.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
When Chicago, Yeah, yeah, you from Chicago shipped their pants
more disproportionately than people.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
Pants before.
Speaker 6 (20:18):
I live, no doubt, no doubt in my mind.
Speaker 2 (20:23):
For sure, I think everyone shipped their pants.
Speaker 6 (20:26):
I don't think Kate has. But other than that, well,
it's a story. I won't thank you.
Speaker 2 (20:33):
The story that I will not tell.
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I remember being in college and knowing for archaeology and
the department like folded when I went out there and
I took a creative writing class and loved it. And
I remember calling Ike from after a race my sophomore
year I ran in college, and I remember saying him like, hey,
I'm gonna go back to Chicago. I know what I
(21:01):
want to do, and he talked me out of it,
and I'm really glad he did go. Now, there's no
point in finishing, like, just finish it off. There's two
years left, just get it done. And I did that
and very happy I did it sent me on like
a good timeline. I also wasn't ready to come out yet.
Speaker 6 (21:18):
Also, just to be clear, when I did that, I
was like twenty three, I was living in LA I
was a bus boy. It was the worst time in
my life kind of because that was like I couldn't
get an audition for a fucking Quizno's commercially, you know
what I mean. Like it was horrible. And I loved
my brother, and I was like, I don't want you
(21:40):
to go through what I'm going through because yeah, it's
not gonna work. It's not gonna work.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No. I was very happy I
stayed in and like did it the right way and
like went back to Chicago and did four years there
and came out to LA. I just knew. I knew
I was going to do it.
Speaker 6 (21:55):
And then by the time he was ready, he went
through the Chicago thing. He had, you know, done some
training stuff at Steppenwolf and stuff. At that point, I
was on a TV show. It's like, oh, bro, come
out here, man, it's great.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
It's so.
Speaker 6 (22:10):
Then he moved out here and then my TV show
and I had three years where no one would hire me,
and I was like, this count sucks. It's over and
Johnson great, I'm really glad I'm here now. Moza, thank you.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
Did you guys live together?
Speaker 4 (22:25):
No, I was. Ike was already with his wife by
the time.
Speaker 6 (22:28):
I'm oh, wow, okay, yeah, yeah, so we never lived together,
but we, you know, we it's as you guys know,
there's nothing like having your sibling in the city you
live in.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
Man.
Speaker 6 (22:38):
It's like it's it changes everything. It makes you feel.
It makes you feel so much more at home. You know,
this is not our It wasn't at my home. And
now that he'sier, especially now that my family's here, it's like, oh, yeah, cat,
LA is my home.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
Did you meet your wife in LA?
Speaker 6 (22:53):
I met my wife in a very romantic little town
in uh western of I don't call it Las Vegas. Yeah.
We met at the hard Rock Casino.
Speaker 1 (23:07):
Are you serious?
Speaker 6 (23:09):
Yeah? Literally, I'm telling you. We met in two thousand
and five during the World Series and I was with
like my fantasy football league and she was with like
a bachelorette party. And I remember talking to her and
you know, it's like, oh, what are you doing tonight?
The White Sox are playing. She's like, I'm a huge
White Sox fan. I'm like, so am I And we
watched the White Sox game and like, you know, the
(23:29):
Pope was there and and like, you know, whatever things happened,
and and then she moved back to New York and
I was still in LA so I would go to
I would fly to New York like every other weekend
to go see her for like months. And then then
I moved to New York and then she moved to LA.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh that's cool. So you met in Vegas. Oh yeah,
had a fucking crazy fun basil.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Yes, I love Vegas.
Speaker 6 (23:55):
I really like when I get there, I have like
a crazy energy where I like I and.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
I just got oh god, I you in Vegas is
like a disaster.
Speaker 3 (24:04):
Oh it's so it's much fun. It's dangerous.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
Man.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
Our grandfather, our grandfather lost in Vegas. Really oh everything.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
Yeah, he was.
Speaker 4 (24:17):
He was a very successful He was like one of
the first used car salesman because cars were still new
when he went into business. So like he like owned Chicago,
like the car scene.
Speaker 3 (24:27):
He owned a bunch of Christler dealerships.
Speaker 4 (24:30):
Very successful and he like he lost like like everything everything.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
Yeah, he was like Wow, he was a big gambler.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
But he was so cool.
Speaker 6 (24:41):
Like I remember, like my dad and I went first
time I went to Vegas. We went to one of
the hotels he used to stay at and he had
been dead for twenty years. And when my dad checked in,
the guy behind the desk told the manager of the
manager came over, shook my dad's hand.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
Was like, oh, we're gonna hook you guys up. It
was like yeah, it was it was a really cool guy.
Speaker 4 (25:01):
We're gonna look you up.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
Will you send me a picture of your grandpa.
Speaker 1 (25:12):
That I want to see what he looks like.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
He looked like Tom Sizemore and stay in private Ryan.
Speaker 2 (25:19):
Oh my god, did he ever handsome?
Speaker 4 (25:21):
Dude?
Speaker 1 (25:21):
Oh my god, wait, I have to see Wow, hold
on I.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
Can't handsome man. Yeah he was. He was yeah yeah yeah,
wow yeah, very very cool.
Speaker 4 (25:37):
Took a bullet, took a bullet at Normandy.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Did he really did. He was like like D day
plus like eight, he was like Wave five or something.
But yeah it took one. Like but yeah, very very
cool guy four four heart attacks like the most Chicago
guy ever.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
How awesome.
Speaker 6 (26:00):
Yeah he was cool. He was cool. And his wife
our grandmother, God bless her still with us, you guys.
Speaker 4 (26:07):
Just one wow, yes.
Speaker 6 (26:11):
Yeah, we just went to go visit her, like I
brought two of my girls to go see here a
couple of months ago. And it's so funny. I now
want to live a very long life because I've learned
that when you get to a certain age, all you
have to do all day is watch TIV Yeah, and
(26:31):
that is I'm not even playing.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
With you, guys. I want to wake up, have a
little breakfast, and then just go to the couch and
just watch TV all day.
Speaker 6 (26:43):
That's like my goal.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
Are you able to watch TV given how busy you
are or you like you can't or do you every night? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (26:52):
I always try if I get if I'm home not
too late. Uh, like ten minutes of basketball random basket
ball game and then one one half hour show like
right now you are you guys watching the rehearsal? Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
I mean it started at dude genius and he what
(27:17):
he's doing this season is so it's crascinating and funny
and it's like a long con basically it's a long
con slash social experiment. But it's a combination of real
people and actors. So it's not like it's not like
it's like a prank.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (27:36):
It's like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (27:37):
It's more like the amount of resources throwing to nothingness.
It's one of the funniest.
Speaker 6 (27:44):
The episode episode three, I think, like not to give
it away, but like the baby thing happens, the funniest
thing I've seen like in a while. So you I
do like to watch a little bit.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
Have you guys worked together, Yeah, we have.
Speaker 6 (27:59):
He play I directed and started a movie. Uh and
he played my brother in it. This was six years ago,
seven years ago.
Speaker 4 (28:10):
I've been like he had me on for like a
little bit and Mindy yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:16):
John and Scotti were on mini project together with Dave
and I.
Speaker 4 (28:20):
We did with the Great Katie Rich on Netflix. Yeah.
Speaker 6 (28:24):
Yeah, we did show amate show for Netflix with Katie
and Dave Stass and some friends. So we've been in
a writer's room together and I don't think we could
get too deep into it right now because we're still
shooting it. But we have a new thing that we're
working on with our dad that we've been kind of
the last the last few months, which has been hoously
(28:48):
been like so much fun and so great. But again,
like you have to allow more patients when you're working
with a parent.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
Well to ask that, like what's the working dynamic?
Speaker 1 (28:58):
What about your brothers?
Speaker 2 (28:59):
Yeah, like you know what about directing John? John was
directed by Ike was in.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
The movie No No, because like I think, like again
like like full trust in yea, his instincts and everything.
So like yeah, also and this thing we directed each
other and and we both directed our dad in it,
and there's definitely more patience between us.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
We also have the exact same sensibility. Yeah, and there's
that weird sibling thing where like he can come up
and be like, hey do that thing where you go, yeah,
you know, I'll do it, but you know exactly like
that not even shorthand no hand yeah, yeah, dad is
trickier because a he's our dad, but also he's like
a seventy three year old man. So like we'll be
(29:49):
on a zoom, you know, with like eighteen people and
like just like a production meeting, and like his audio
will go out for like half a second and John
John will be in the middle of aug about something
and my dad goes, Okay, I can't hear. I can't
hear anything.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
Did you hear me working?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
It's working?
Speaker 4 (30:06):
Now, you don't have to be on the call, Like,
just let me. I have to get through this stuff.
I have to get through.
Speaker 1 (30:13):
Oh my god.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
I mean you guys should be documenting that, you know.
It's just that's funny too, just the behind the scenes
of you too and the dad trying to make a
show together. Its fucking funny.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
Like he really, he's very charmed and he's so happy and.
Speaker 1 (30:30):
She's the sweetest man ever.
Speaker 6 (30:32):
Sow.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
There's this moment in Running Point where.
Speaker 5 (30:37):
I'm sorry, where we were shooting, where you know, he
comes in and the whole thing was like that he's
you know, can be kind of handsy and and I
said to Ike, I'm like, he should kiss me on
the lips.
Speaker 1 (30:55):
And yeah, I.
Speaker 6 (30:58):
Told my dad. I go, hey, on this next tape,
I kissed Kate on the lips. He goes, I can't
do that.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
I can't.
Speaker 6 (31:06):
Washed and really nervous, and I was like, listen, hey, hey,
calm down, it's her idea. He goes, really, oh, oh,
I remember our our, our wonderful sweet late uncle Harold,
wonderful man. Uh big wet lips.
Speaker 3 (31:23):
I remember he.
Speaker 6 (31:26):
Came to l A and took Dave and I Dave
Stass to night, to dinner, and at the end of
dinner he gave me a hugg kiss and he turns
to Dave, who he had just met, and goes, goodbye, honey,
and gave Dave and David says, we did it. Dave
was like a hardcore gentile.
Speaker 3 (31:44):
Like the emotion old Jewish come here.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Oh my god, Oh my god.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Nothing drunk older people love more than saying goodbye goodbye everyone,
like photographers walking away.
Speaker 1 (32:06):
I feel like I'm that older person.
Speaker 2 (32:08):
Now we're getting there.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
I'm definitely that person.
Speaker 6 (32:13):
You guys, I am. I am fucking old. I have
bursitis in my shoulder.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
You do what is that?
Speaker 6 (32:20):
It's like you have like bursa that are like little
kind of sacks around, like the little ball sacks kind
of and you're basically imagine here, I's got a bunch
of testicles and yeah, it's like it's like when they
get inflamed.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Basically it happens. It's a sports injury, right.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
You have.
Speaker 6 (32:39):
I guess.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
I guess I'm an athlete.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I could talk to you guys forever.
Speaker 5 (32:55):
But we do have a thing that we say to
each other after every.
Speaker 1 (33:03):
After every interview. Rare question, Yeah, I'll you ask.
Speaker 2 (33:07):
Yeah, but before we before before I was want to
talk about the studio really quickly, and like you, I
was just talking about you today. You like it's kind
of happening. You kind of fucking did it, you know
what I mean, Like you're having a real moment here.
Just shut up for a second. I'm just telling you
what's happening. Like you, I think are going to be
able to like truly carry movies, and I think that
(33:31):
this is gonna be It's happening.
Speaker 6 (33:34):
I'm the luckiest person in the world. Oh my god.
Like I gotta like go and write jokes for your
sister with Dave and Mindy, and then I gotta go
dick around with Seth and yeah, some of those guys.
So it's so fun, it's all, but it's the whole business,
you guys. Know, you get moments of luck and you
get moments of despair, and it's it's a wave. And
I'm sure a year and a half from now, I'll
fucking be like but like you know, you know, right now.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
It's it's a humbling and just.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
But now that you've worked your ass off to get
to where youre are, and hopefully it keeps going and going.
But is there an added pressure to be funny and
funnier and make sure oh my god, or you just
say fuck it, I'm just gonna do what I do.
Speaker 6 (34:14):
I think that I don't think there's a you know
what I mean, Like the pressure is to make sure
work is good.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
But I'm so lucky.
Speaker 6 (34:23):
I've also, I think all of us on this zoom
right now do understand we love our business, we care
about it, we invest our time and our energy, we
love watching it. But we also understand the difference the
balance of our families and the importance of that, and nothing,
nothing supersedes that and the relationships you have. And it's
(34:47):
a crazy planet right now. A lot it's very hot
and it's important too, I think kind of really remember
that's the important stuff.
Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, and especially with everyone's success, it's about sort of
prioritizing that. Got your three girls, Like it's as busy
as you are. You obviously your dad first. You want
to make sure that you cater to that one. That's
all that and that can get tough at being busy. Yeah, yeah,
(35:15):
miss miss Ship, especially.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
If you're an actor, you're gonna go do a movie.
Speaker 5 (35:19):
We went, we did a panel. We were doing this
like deadline panel. I get on FaceTime and Ike is
at Bristol Farms picking up food so that he can
feed his kids before he has to go do something else.
You're the best dad, and I love and I love
what you're saying. I love what you're saying because John, John,
(35:40):
I'm sure you are an amazing father as well, because
because you guys grew up like it's I think we
all are very kindred.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
A little more little more like.
Speaker 6 (35:54):
Balance, very disciplinary.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
Yeah yeah, very rough.
Speaker 6 (36:01):
No, but you're right, okay, Like it's like we're so
lucky to grow up in the house as we did
where you know, our parents just they they were just
nice people.
Speaker 3 (36:10):
First they were like nice and and so you.
Speaker 4 (36:14):
Know it comes from siblings to Like I don't know
if you guys listen to Daily or listen to the
Today's Daily was about this new book called The Power
of Siblings. Yeah, and it's like it's amazing. Have you like,
have you read it?
Speaker 5 (36:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (36:27):
Now, but but I just I just read about it.
Speaker 4 (36:30):
Wow, that's not that's how far I got read about it.
I'm like, it's like I'm like right away, I'm like, oh, yeah,
it's crazy how much your siblings influence you and your
behavior and like without even knowing it, like they.
Speaker 1 (36:42):
Just more so than your parents.
Speaker 6 (36:46):
Can I just feel a quick imitation of Michael Barbara
on The Daily, John just say what the book's about.
Speaker 4 (36:52):
So this book is about how our siblings influence and
inform our lives than our child.
Speaker 6 (36:57):
And I really did a sound button.
Speaker 3 (37:06):
Love you keep me.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
All right? Last question before the wonder that you guys shot,
how many takes did you do?
Speaker 6 (37:15):
Oh my god? They shot it in four chunks. And
what they would do is I think they're planning on
we can cheat stuff. But that house that's a famous house,
that's a John Latner house called silver Top and it's
all window. So we would show up at like nine
and we would rehearse until like magic hours. So we
(37:37):
would rehearse all day until like four thirty or five,
and then shoot as many takes as we could for
Chunk one until the sun came down. And some days
we got to shot. There was one day where we
didn't get it. It was a little heartbreaking, but it was.
It was really intense.
Speaker 2 (37:54):
Did anyone fuck up?
Speaker 6 (37:57):
Oh my god? So many times? I like, and when
you fuck up like we've all do, were you fuck
up like a complicated shot? Yeah, you're just like all
of a sudden, like our steady cam operator who has
been like on his feet for like eighteen hours.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
Or I'm sorry I was.
Speaker 5 (38:15):
I was talking about that with Catherine Hahn. We did
like the actors on Actors Thing for Variety, and I
were talking about improv, like imagine being the asshole who
like has the improv line that like.
Speaker 7 (38:28):
Everything you're talking to that asshole, I know it would
have been you, of course, as I decided to throwing
a totally new line that none of you been heard before.
Speaker 6 (38:41):
It was a cue line. I'm sorry about that. Let's
go again.
Speaker 2 (38:45):
Oh god, So here here's the last question, right, it's
a two parter. If you could uh alleviate something from
your brother, something that you could take away from his
life that would make it just a little bit better.
What would it be? And on the flip side of that,
if you could take something from him, if you could emulate.
Speaker 6 (39:04):
Something, I would. I'll go first.
Speaker 3 (39:06):
I would alleviate stress, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6 (39:10):
Like John I think sometimes carries stress differently than I did,
always have since he was a boy.
Speaker 3 (39:17):
He's able to.
Speaker 2 (39:18):
Manifest it incredibly well.
Speaker 6 (39:20):
And like, but you could tell you know your brother
better than you know yourself, I would steal. It's like
two sides of one coin.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Because what I would emulate from him is his patience.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
Which is I don't have that, Like I am a
little little bitch and he is just he is so
like poised and calm and even when bad things happen,
the way he handles it and carries himself, it's just
like I could never do that. So there you go,
beat that, Johnny, you fucking pick.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
I want his nikes? No he Uh. My answer was
also weirdly gonna be stress, which I could take away
the stress and uh, I guess like I wish I
could give uh, be able to give him more time
to because I feel like he's incredibly packed with time
of like you said, Ali of like parenting and working
(40:18):
and like alleviate some of that pressure and stress.
Speaker 6 (40:21):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:22):
And my my emulator is like it's such a stupid one.
Speaker 6 (40:27):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (40:27):
But like he is, I would love to be, like
I can. I think it's okay to say this. Uh, I.
Speaker 2 (40:40):
Can.
Speaker 4 (40:40):
I can smoke weed and and like be like talk
to the president and and like I love I love smoking,
but I can't like leave my house if I do
it anymore. I just like and I feel like I'm
so so he can he's he's so. I think that's
like the thing is like being so comfortable in his
(41:01):
own skin, and you can do that across like being
in any any state of inebriation or like, yeah.
Speaker 5 (41:09):
You can smell I can smell ike from like you know,
stage stage.
Speaker 6 (41:17):
Because when I was like I love that, I was
like I want to my brother's patience and soul is
so beautiful, and he's like he has a drug problem.
Speaker 4 (41:27):
The root of mine is being comfortable in his own skin,
like and being able to like rite but.
Speaker 2 (41:32):
Like when you're high. You just wish you didn't have
panic attacks going out when you're.
Speaker 6 (41:38):
My friend.
Speaker 4 (41:38):
I feel like whether like forget the high thing, whether
he's talking to like really like the head of whatever
he can be talking like the head of the u
N or like like you know, his gardener, and like
it is the same level of comfortability with both, and
that's like such a cool thing.
Speaker 6 (41:55):
Yeah, yeah, you smoke with butros. Butros, Golly, that would
be a great stone session, I mean, very good.
Speaker 1 (42:07):
Quick question.
Speaker 5 (42:07):
Do you have the same ability like your brother does
with like Jeopardy?
Speaker 1 (42:11):
Do you can you?
Speaker 4 (42:14):
Yeah? I think I got the trivia thing. I got
the trivia thing too.
Speaker 6 (42:16):
It's a weird thing, so weird, but I'm looking at
I'm looking at well, I can tell you why he's
better than me, because we're in a daily trivia league
and we're in the same group this year, and I
am currently number twelve, and you could see right there
a number three Jay barronhol.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Oh wow, well does the trivia league work. It's just
like a question to day.
Speaker 6 (42:38):
No, it's it's uh, it's it's it's every season, so
it's four times a year and it's like three weeks
or four weeks each time, and every day you get
an email that has six questions and they're they're like,
pretty Hardt's there's some I'm like, I have no no
clue the.
Speaker 4 (42:56):
Average correct If you get two in a day, you're like,
that's good.
Speaker 6 (43:01):
But what you do is you're going head to head
against other people in the group and you score their
points so you can look and see, like, oh, Oliver
is really good at like sports and literature, but he's
bad at like science and geography. This geography question, if
he gets it right, I'm going to give him a
high value, you know what I mean. So there's an
(43:21):
extra wrinkle to it. It's really really really.
Speaker 1 (43:26):
Awful.
Speaker 4 (43:28):
Guy who heard my last name and he was like,
are you Jay Barrenholts. I'm like yeah, he's like, I'm
t Bouers. We're in the same rundle, Like like you
only know the last name.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Run Wait a minute, But is it just on the
honor system that you don't just look it up?
Speaker 6 (43:47):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (43:47):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be hard for me.
Speaker 6 (43:51):
They do a smart thing though. They make you check
a box saying I certify that I have told the
truth that I didn't cheat. That's strangely Books Yeah, that
would hurt.
Speaker 1 (44:03):
Yeah, I would never be able to do anything like that.
Speaker 6 (44:08):
I've asked, I've asked you some of the questions before.
You've got a couple of them, and it's fun.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
I definitely want to. I wish, I wish I did.
Think we should do more things like that, Alie. Yeah,
I guess be a part of like clubs.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
I just got reading let me one step at a time.
I just figured out reading.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Well, we love you guys.
Speaker 6 (44:35):
You guys a great season two.
Speaker 2 (44:38):
Love you guys.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
Everybody's counting on you.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
I'm excited you guys. Great work, great work John. I
love all for you, John talking.
Speaker 1 (44:48):
We'll see you again if.
Speaker 6 (44:50):
You all love you all.
Speaker 1 (44:51):
Love you baby babe. Oh, I know, I'm so lucky.
Speaker 2 (45:00):
Oh you're so lucky in La working with the greatest people.
Speaker 1 (45:05):
They're so great, laugh our butts off all day.
Speaker 2 (45:08):
You have hit the jack.
Speaker 5 (45:10):
I know, I'm so I really this is what I
do those moments where I feel like, like, what do
you do in your life to actually or what have
you done in a past life to actually be able
to experience that kind of joy in this life? You know,
because that's what it feels like it and it's so
much fun and yun.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
And he's so smart, and everybody's so smart.
Speaker 5 (45:30):
I always try to say, you know, just because it
looks easy and effortless doesn't mean that that's what it is.
It's just it's just there's so much work involved and
he works so hard.
Speaker 1 (45:42):
It's and it's just, yeah, it's the best.
Speaker 4 (45:44):
Ye.
Speaker 1 (45:45):
Well, I'm about to go see a baby. I'm going
to go see my new niece on a fujikaw side.
Speaker 5 (45:54):
I love you, okay,
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