November 24, 2025 • 48 mins
Kate Hudson and Ginnifer Goodwin reunite and reignite our need for a "Something Borrowed" sequel! Hear what WOULD bring them back for a reboot of the rom-com classic.
Plus, you’ll never guess what Oliver and Ginnifer have in common, and WHO is the mystery person making cameos in all of Ginnifer’s movies?
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hi am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling, railvalr No, no, sibling.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Hey oh oh oh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Because we are interviewing you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Calm down, girl, you shut up. Calmed down. If you're
going to be excited, you have to warn me first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Jinny Goodwin and I did a movie called Something Borrowed together.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Someone asked me, so much shit.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Someone asked me on the carpet, what is the movie
that you wish you could do a sequel to? And
I was like, honestly, I really loved playing Darcy and
Something Borrowed. There was a there's a book after that
called Something Blue, but we never got to do it,
and that book is where Darcy ends up. She you know,
at the end of the movie, she's pregnant and selling
blue like it's the whole thing. And I was like,
(01:30):
we had so much fun, Like those characters were so fun.
And then it's one of those movies that people always
say to me like that they love that movie. So
it kind of didn't do what we hoped it would
have done. But then, of course, like a lot of
these movies had this sort of different life. Yes, yes,
and so I'm excited to see Rachel. That's her character's name, Rachel, Rachel. Yeah,
(01:55):
that's her character's name, insighting borrowed. She talks like, no,
I don't know why I'm talking about theas I just
had to. Okay, let's Springer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And now she's a mommy and I can't wait to
talk to her. I call her gig Oh right, Oh,
look at her pie on her Oh, Ginny is a
pumpkin pie pie.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Hi, I have been like like six years, and every
time that I forgot to change the pie.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Don't ever change the pie.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
A treacle tart.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
If you ever want a trickle tart and make a
trickle tart, it's basically like lemon and syrup and breadcrumbs
and there's like nothing better.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's like a souppy pie and then you bake.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Soup and it's just like, are you a baker?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm kind of a baker.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well did you know that I was on the Greatest
British Bake Off for the celebrity version.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
What we Please have?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And I like a like a viewing party and they
have to explain.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What was really going on behind the scenes. I am dying.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well, Paul Hollywood improve. I was like starstruck because
I've seen every single episode.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And did you learn? You feel like you walked away?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh? You know what I did. I just followed the
recipe to a tea because baking is science. So I
was just like, I'm going to be precise, and that's
pretty much all I did. You know. I added a
little Hudson flare and threw some things in here, and
a little dash of this and a little sprinkle of that.
But for the most part, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Listen, do not simplify baking.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's been the whole time talking about this waits so long.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I know, I know, and I'm looking at your beautiful
face and you look exactly the same, and I love
you and I keep the same in your children, your mother.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Do you remember when I was like looking through your
purse and you had boy toys in there, and I
was like, oh, I want to have boy toys in
my purse some day, like the cars friend some day.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Exactly. And and your kid has the greatest name, the greatest.
It doesn't get better than that kid's name.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Do you go by the way O l I for
your nickname?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Or O l l I O l l I E
oh nice? Yeah, but people spelled differently. But he said
he's going to be extremely handsome, extremely charming. You know,
people are just going to gravitate towards him. His career
might be a little bit, but like everything else is
going to be great.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's the only Oliver, Like Oliver's are only like Mid.
They're handsome, but like Mid, I'm so happy for you.
I watch you from a distance always. But can we
get back? I'm making real quick before we get into
your whole life story, Oliver. Baking isn't just science. When
(05:06):
you become a baker and you bake a lot, then
you start to you take the science and then you
improve upon the flavors the texture.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Is that what you meant by Hudson's player, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Think you know who the fuck you're talking to, right listen.
I don't think Yeah, I don't think you know you're
talking to. Once you see this show, you were going
to retract everything you say.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Again people will put me on the show.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm like, here's the thing. I am excellent and embarrassing myself.
I am really good at failing at things, and like.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I think that that could be entertaining. I think you
should let something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It will be fun, so much fun. When Oliver was
doing it, I got so excited.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh god, I was so excited. I couldn't believe I
was in the tent. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I buy the swag and it's in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear the music.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Oh that's my that's actually my time around my phone.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's a really oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So before also we get in this, Ginny and I
met on something Borrowed, which is a very talked about me.
I don't know if you have this experienced Ginny, but
like I people talk to me about this the movie
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I get stopped for this movie all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And do you remember they wanted to cut the dance
scene and people ask me about the dance scene constantly.
Oh yeah, my sons, like their girlfriends at school have
been they've been learning the dance.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh oh yeah, I'm not a bunch of twelve year olds.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I show up, I like the assistant librarian when I'm
not doing other things. And I have shown up on
campus and had the girls be like, hey missus Dallas, look.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
In the Oh my god, that's the best. I feel
like that. I feel like that dance has had a
real great life, definitely, like but I can't believe, like,
you know, the movie when it came out, like wasn't
like this giant success, but then the it's just had
this like it's just wild and it bonkers. Yeah. And
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I was saying to Ollie that I get asked about
it on the carpet all the time, like you know,
I was on the carpet not that long ago, and
they were like, what's the movie that you would want
to do the sequel? And I was like, well, I
something borrowed. We never got to do the sequel. And
it was like, you know that that book Something Blue,
it was sort of like would have been like the
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best circle for that movie and we never got to
do it follow up.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But now I want her.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I feel like she I would I would not want
to go back and do Something Blue at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean we're kind of too old.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I remember the care. You know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I had a monologue and something borrowed spiraling about turning thirty,
and I'm like, I am.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Gonna be soon.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, And what I would like is for her to
write another book where we are further Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And wouldn't that be in? And then we and then
we could do we could do like a like a
flashback to something Blue with other girls.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yes, I love this, and I can go hang out
while they're filming exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're not quite there yet. But your daughters, you know,
if you were older, it could be your daughters. Yes,
oh that's cool, you.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Know, but Emily, look, she whips them out, so she
could always. I mean she she knows how to write
those books.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, every time I'm asked about this impressed, I'm like, well,
she'd like to write another one where you've got some
ladies in their forties.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean, i'd be getting we're in, We're.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In, so Jinny. You grew up in Memphis. I did,
And I realized I started this in our intro, like
in doing like a southern accent. Oh yeah, I don't
know why why that's why? And but you lost your accent.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It was like beaten out of me in theater schools.
They were like, you can, every character can have this accent.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was like that tracks, that makes sense. I didn't
say tracks, that's such a filmy shirt.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But does your whole family have hardcore like Tennessee accents?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean it's hard as I feel like I'm slipping
into it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's actually I feel like it's hard for me to
hear it in them because it's just like how they sound.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But I feel like anywhere I go I can identify
specifically like a southwestern Tennessee accent, like if there's if
I'm on a plane, I'll.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Be like, something's Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like I feel like there's a there's a very specific
vowels thing that we do, and so I can't hear
it in other people. But yeah, I mean I've heard videos,
I've seen videos of myself as a child.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And I can't believe I'm in the same human being.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's crazy. Wait did you consciously beat it out of yourself?
Meaning it's like I worked you worked at it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yes, like lots of dialect classes, wow, And sometimes things
like slip through like I definitely like I can't say.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Boots right, But then it just becomes just by road,
it's just who you are, or do you still try
to not?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think like I dream.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think I dream in like a not Southern accent now,
like it's not part of me. Yeah, But then some
words I hear, and especially doing voiceover work these days,
I really hear things as they're coming out of my
mouth and I'm like, that's getting away from me.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And that's too, that's not the right sound.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Isn't that so interesting? You essentially, you know, take a
part of yourself and just and just it just disappears
like you just beat it down, like it's no law.
You were this Jenny was this person, and there's a
piece of her that is no longer that person because
of the actual.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I did a movie set in Tennessee, like I don't
know three four years ago, and they brought in a
dialect coach and I was like, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Going to take that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm gonna I'm going to go shopping, I'm going to
go eat lunch. And they were like, actually, you need
more work. The getting getting the accent than right again
was a whole process.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, that's wild. I see it with kids. I've known
a couple of kids that have moved from London to
the States when they're young, and and they like my
ex went back to London his little daughter. She is
a full English accent, full like you know, have you
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seen daddy? You know, and then all and then she
comes back here and it within four months she has
an American accent. Oh so wild. Yeah, and so you
realize like language is just learned, you know, it's like yeah,
and then and then you realize like some people have
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a stronger connection to it, Like I can't do certain accents.
It doesn't come easy to me, but Rider for some
reason can do any accent like like almost like it's
a great ear. Yeah, Like I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And I'm surprised that you don't feel you do well
because also with your being musical, I feel like there's
something about that that's got to be connected.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I could do certain accents, but but like the Australian
forget it, I'd have to like really work at it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like there's certain things.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
That have I just think they got that's the Australian word,
and I can't do them.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I can't do them at all.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Oh, So when you grew up in Memphis, was the
Peabody Hotel and the Duck something that you would do
as a little girl or is that just like a
touristy thing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
No, no, no, it's still it's still fabulous. And I
have taken my kids to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I mean because we would also have like you'd
have like dances there, and I mean I am from
I am from the place in the time of like
the Debutante ball something so like would have their parties there.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I didn't have, but I I was aware.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Explain how like where did you grow Did you grow
up in the city or were you outside of Memphis?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You say Memphis, so right by the way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh is there a way to say it?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, she said, Memphis. It's almost like it's like dipthong.
It's like got two sounds in a.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Memphis, Memphis, Memphis. I'm going to Memphis. I'm going to Memphis, Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think you were local.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm actually going there soon because my director is from
there for this movie coming out song Sung Blue. He's
he lives there, Craig Brewer, and we're doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
He does.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I've read them for four hundred years. I grew up
in I guess what you'd call the suburbs. But my
family was very like Memphian in that I had two
my grandfathers on both sides were both well one was
an engineer and one was a developer, and so a
lot of like they contributed to the building up of Memphis,
you know, in like the like early mid nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And then my dad was in the music.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Industry until I was, I mean until I was like
in middle school, and he had and he was a performer,
and then he stopped performing when he decided that he
wanted to be home with his family and he wanted
to stop touring, and so he ended up opening a recording.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Studio on Beale Street.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So also, I feel like my youth was very like
I don't know, sort of idyllically Memphis.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And what about your mom?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
My mom was.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
First she was a stay at home mom, and then
she became a substitute teacher, and then she decided to
like go to college and get her bachelor's and her
master's and her doctorate and became an expert in technology
and education.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So if you like I have to ask my mom
or my children how to handle things.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So is she doctor Goodwin? She is that's such a
good doctor name. Oh cool, Doctor Goodwin is the best.
That's like a character in a movie. I know, but
it kind of sounds like it could be like a
Marvel like doctor Goodwin.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, but she's bad, Yeah, she's.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Kind of she's kind of evil.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Your kids, did you go.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Through this or this is just like the jerkiest thing
ever that I'm admitting. Did you go through and like
make sure that your kids' names sounded good with like
all the careers.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, I would do this thing where I would.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Go ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I go ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The recipient of the Booker Prize, Yeah, oh yeah, Ronnie
Rose Hudson, Fuji Cow. I was like, Okay, that works.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, I guess that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I was like, I was like, ladies and gentlemen, you know,
the honorable, the honorable, I don't know, the audible.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Wilder Brooks Hudson, Yeah, good one, Wilder Brooks Hudson sounds
like more of like a Booker Prize winner. Wilder wild Yeah,
that sound literary. What about body Bodie han hud He's ompics.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We did this like everything we could think of, and
then I was actually sitting on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think it was Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And he said, you do realize that you gave your
son Oliver the initials O D.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I was like, I actually looked at that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I made adopt and I thought I'm president and all of.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Those thank you so much, OD and Odd, thank Youkay.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
My issue for my third kid is next up on
the number one stage, Rio Hudson.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Please, no, any of your kids want to be in showbiz.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They all do, every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't even know what to do about this. In
the Halloween Parade, Ronnie decided to be a bride with
her best friend their ghost brides, but she already was that,
and then she's like, I don't want to put the
ghost makeup on. I just want to put like, you know,
lipstick and thing. Of course. So now she's basically in
a gown with her best friend and she's waving at
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all of the parents like she's like, oh, it's so funny. Well,
it's more like I feel like she wants to marry
a royal. I feel like her, and like, good idea,
what louis, what's the I like this it's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's better than questions about that too awful idea. It's Ronnie.
I have to visit her at like Buckingham Palace. Can
I see my daughter?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Please?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Please wait in the wait in the I'm not allowed
to certain things.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What about your kids? Are they inclined anyway?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, we thought we would want to keep them as
far from show business as possible, and like both my
husband and I feel like he's an actor as well,
and we both feel like there is no greater blessing
than this. However, we got on rejection and like, you know,
very unsustainable, sort of unstable life, and so we have wanted.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Something, yeah, just a little bit different for them.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
My husband and I came out of the womb from
our respective mothers with jazz hands. And so then when
our children, as much as we thought we wanted to
set them up for like you know, careers and finance,
when they came out and did not want to be
in show business, We're like, what did we do wrong?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Why? Right?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, no, I don't know. So my husband's now actually doing.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
A lot of volunteering for the school and get it,
trying to get my kids. He's worse than performing arts.
In his spare time in the performing arts department, trying
to get our kids revved up about things like SpongeBob
the Musical. But right now my youngest wants to be No,
I'm actually really happy. My youngest who's nine, Hugh, he
told me he wants to be a CFO and I
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had to look up what that was.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
She's financial officer of what business?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Okay, I get good.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So I have been finishing at the movie Zotobia too,
And I took them to Disney, like rolled out their
red carpet and let me have a bring my kids
to work day.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And they just showered my.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Children in actual candy and took let them play on
the animation software and watch mommy work and like here's
how lighting works and here's how editing works and all
the things. And I was like, oh, maybe they'll want
to be in the arts now. And they came out
and Hugo goes, now I want to be and we
were like yes, and he goes THEO with Disney, that's.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A good idea. Yeah, that sounds great with us.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We're totally good at this.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And the other one's like, you know, I'm going to
be a pro soccer player and maybe a surgeon at
the same time.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Of course, gotcha, we got how old is he? Eleven?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Can you believe you? You're a boy mommy? I know
I was a boy mommy for a long time.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
How different is it now? Like I can't even fathom having.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh it's so different, and everybody sort of is like
you know, I mean I remember when she was first born,
it was like, how different is it? I'm like, well,
she just like poops and sleeps and I don't know yet,
like let's give it some time. But the second hurt,
she started like developing all I mean, just she is
all girl and like, I mean, it couldn't be more different.
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I mean she sits in sometimes the kitchen. You know,
my rider's now twenty one, graduating graduating from NYU this year.
She'll sit in the room at six years old and
the boys are and she just rolls her eyes. She's
just like, what is wrong with you guys? Shes like
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she's girls just they're just we're so different. We're just
wired so differently. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, So now.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'm surrounded by boys. I have a boy dog.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, it's there's my son, my eldest, and I
share clothes now, so that's like but like keeping the
estrogeneral live in the houses.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So, Genny, how many siblings do you have?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I have one sister.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I have two stepsisters, but I was not raised with them.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
My parents remarried later.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So they are my stepsisters, but I don't I don't
know them as well as I wish I did.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But I am very close to my.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Little sister, who's really only two years younger than me.
So basically, I mean, now we're the same age.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And you you grew up and you were in Memphis
your whole childhood.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Whole childhood, always wanted to be an actress. No, always
was going to be an actress. There was no backup plan.
So there was no question that I was not staying
in Memphis, and I I yeah, I picked up and
left and I moved to Well. I went to theater
schools and my sister went to art school. She's a
visual artist and an animator. So also we've always had
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like sibling careers, which has been lovely and overlaps, like
she had me cast in her first animated series.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
So my first voice over job was through.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
My sister and now I left as cameos and all
the things that I do.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Sh oh, you know what? She was in something borrowed.
She was in a bar scene.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's always like a Where's Waldo game for my family, Okay,
and like it's fun because ads will get competitive. Like
I have to say, I think walk the Line one
because they put her in like a scene where basically
everything was in unintentional I mean intentional per art direction
and costumes, but like.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
The image was almost black and white.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And then my sister's in this like bright blue airline
stewardess uniform like coming down and escalator right behind Joaquin Phoenix.
And I was like, I don't know if that can
be toped as where were called? From my family? Yeah,
but I think for a while too, my family would
get more excited about finding her than they, like they
were used to seeing me on screen, so like I'd
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be in a screening with them and then they would
just all start screaming when they would see my sister, right, and.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Like now I had and now she's like making like has.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Little cameos even in the you know, like in the
Zutopia movies, She's got little roles.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And things like that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And is she in la you know what she was
And this isn't me like talking out of school because
she's been public about it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But she lost her husband. She's got two very small children.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
She lost her husband cancer a couple of years ago,
and she developed cancer. She's fine, she's great, she's in remission.
But she I think did like the greatest thing for
herself and her kids. And she moved to be with
her late husband's family. So she moved out of state.
It's the first time we haven't been together, so that's
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been an adjustment because we've always been down the street
from each other, like except for college years, our whole lives.
We were roommates after college, so it's been an adjustment.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I do think it's like the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
For where did she move to?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
She moved to Phoenix, Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And does and does does the family have like siblings?
Did he have siblings?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
And that it's a great family.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So now she's like literally in the neighborhood with her
late husband's family in the all dream boats.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I know, me too, me to want to cry.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, it's like the greatest thing ever. So I know
that it was a big like yeah, she's she's in her.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Forties and suddenly, like life is presented her with a
very different.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How old are her kids?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
They are three and seven.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
They're littles, They're little guys.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So also, I have never taken my children to any
kind of Hollywood event at all.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
They don't even know what they are.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
My children have been campaigning to come to the Zutopia
two premiere, which was a whole thing that we can
get into, which is a very fun negotiation. But anyway,
my sister and her eldest are also coming, so we're
going to be dates to the fun the kids.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
What is the negotiation, Well, my whole.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Thing has been.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I let them come to sets. They're allowed to set
a video village, and like you know, I try to
make sure that it's like a child appropriate day. Though
at times I have thought that things would go over
their heads, and things did not go over their heads,
or at least they did not know not to repeat
lines about like infidelity at preschool.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And then I had to go to pre school and say,
by the way, my husband and I are fine. This
was a line that he heard repeatedly.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That you pick up on it. There's a lot of
infidelity in my house for a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But so we've never let them come to anything. We've
kept it all so very separate, and they really really.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Want to come to this premiere.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Now they don't know what that really means. And they
asked me recently because you know, when Disney has these premieres,
they like shut down Hollywood Boulevard and you know, it's
it's I can't even fathom how many people are like
on the street, on the sidewalks. And my kids were like, hey,
do you remember when we went to the next game
And I was like yeah. They were like, you remember
when we left the next game and there were photographers
(26:23):
outside by the way, There were like two photographers And
I was like yeah, And they were like, is it
going to be that kind of crazy?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And I was like, I'm like, we're going to need to,
like you need.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
To show them.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You need to show them like a YouTube video or something.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They've gotten them, so they want to they want to come,
and so they're actually going to come on the press
tour for all, like they're going to do some la
and then everything international a with me and what we
said it right, I've never taken them out of school
for anything.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So this is gonna be the all thing. I haven't
told the school yet.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
They might be finding out listening to this podcast that
we got them little suits. And what I said to
them was, if you walk this carpet with us, which
is what they want to do, I said, we are not, Like,
you're not gonna then like go sit at the computer
and like google yourself, like we're gonna like we're gonna
have eyes on this like this, We're gonna pretend I know,
(27:21):
the math doesn't add up, like there is no math.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That works there.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You're gonna walk on red carpet and we're not posting
about it and we're not googling it and we're not
We're just gonna pretend it's.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Like the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, or do what our dad did, which is no
one really cares about you. And I'm like Kurt was
always Kurt was like, here's the deal, here's a deal.
This is all smoke and mirrors. It means nothing because
there's a there's nine billion people in the world that
don't give a shit. So remember, we're having a box. Remember,
(27:53):
and it has nothing to do with you, yes, and
who you are and what you've offered. Yeah, like it's
like it's we had like the opposite, we had like
the harsh, like the hars.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like, guys, this is this is like I don't think
this is real. This is I don't think this is real.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
This is all insane.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah, no, I love this.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think that's how that's healthy. Though it's healthy, I
think too. I think so it is. I think so
it's like, look, you guys, this is fun. I get it.
It's fun. But then it's all bullshit. It's not this.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's not reality right now. You know, who knows how
long this? I think I think that's the real thing.
Who knows how long is this actually lasts? Let's talk
about your first job, like what was your very first job,
(28:47):
and like what was your sad card job?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
My sag card job.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was a lawn order episode. Yes, I I was a
I was a club girl.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
That was my name.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I believe was club girl. And I by the way,
I had to wear my own clothes and I did
my own I think I did my own hair.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But I think they did my makeup.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
In the audition, I was auditioning to stand beside the
girl that found the body in the cold open, and
when I was in the audition, I asked if I
could please instead audition as well for the girl who screams,
(29:29):
and I got it. So I got to scream when
I saw the body, and then you see me in
the background after that, dunt d't you see me being
interviewed by the cops. And that was my entire role,
but it aired wildly. On the same night, I had
become a recurring actor on ED on induc which was
(29:52):
about the h and my first episode of ED aired
the same night on NBC, right after Law and Order,
and really I.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Had made it's a double feature.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
How old were you I was.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Right out of theater school, so I was in my
very earth. This would have been two thousand and one.
I was in my very early twenties, and I wanted
to be a theater actress, but as I always say,
the theater wouldn't have me, and so I decided. I
was like, I would go to London and see shows,
and like, I don't know, celebrities were.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
All like TV and movie stars were always on stage.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I was like, oh, maybe if I get one of
those jobs, then they'll let me be in a play.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
So then the.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Focus became trying to do TV and film and I've
like yet to make back.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I like, I've done a play in la I was
what to say. I was about to ask you did
you did you follow the plan?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I mean no, because also that's it's I've gotten really
I like cutting the line at Disneyland, and I like
what I know of a theater life. It's like, it's
that is an noble life. That is a life of integrity.
That's a lot of work and hard hours.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I think too when you're in the middle of it
with kids, Like I know, for me, like I want
to I want to do Broadway so bad, and I
just can't do it with kids. I've got kids in school.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's not friendly.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It's I've got to wait. You know, I'm going to
be old on I don't have to be old you know,
or do like a month.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, so limited. So we're great. And how about during
the summer, how about some Shakespeare in the park. How
about we do Shakespeare in the park?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, and we offer them something for our dance break
right in the middle, but we.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Push dance break in the middle of like Taming of
the Shrew. And then when was the thing where you
were like, Oh my god, like I actually am making
a living in life as an as an actress.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
An actress.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, I remember I was on like one of my
first ever mobile phones and I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Was like a flip phone.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And this would have been in I don't know if
this was in two thousand and one. I think this
was in the fall of two thousand and one. I
remember I was in Times Square and my reps called me.
I was really lucky in that I had agents like
pick me up from a college showcase, so I was
represented by the time I moved to New York and
(32:26):
I had gone in and auditioned for Mike Newell for
Mona Lisa's Smile.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I got to remember that movie. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I remember being in that audition and like I didn't
know what I was doing. So I was head to
toe nineteen fifties, like I had figured. I had gone
to the library and gotten books about like you know,
how women did their hair in the nineteen fifties, and
like I went in and character and I wasn't trying
to be a dick.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I just like I didn't know what I was doing.
And I remember they called me.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I was in Times Square on that flip phone, and
they said they're going to cast you in the movie.
And they don't know which of the girls you're going
to be one of the four girls, and they don't
know which girl you're going to be, but they but
but you'll you'll be in the You're in the movie.
And I remember like I fell over, like I actually
physically fell over in Times Square and then like they
(33:14):
like crawled into the Starbucks because I just couldn't, like
I couldn't walk.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that's so that's like the best feeling, isn't it,
Because when you want, like we we share this in that,
when you want something, when you're like that's what I'm
gonna do, like there's just no question. And then and
then finally you're like, oh, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yes, it's real, it's really happening.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
They're gonna let me.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
They're gonna let me.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Through this.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And then it was the greatest experience.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I mean, honestly, it's one of my favorite jobs I've
ever had, too, because Julia Roberts was the greatest like
I don't know chaperone through a first movie ever, Like
she really took me under her wing and I felt
so I don't know, I felt like I had such
a good example of just being like a real pro
but making everybody on a set. She made everybody on
(34:08):
the set feel like they were the most important person
in the room.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
She was the first one there, the.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Last one to leave. She had the flu and was
still doing off camera for me, like and so it
just like I was like, this is it was like
all my Christmases came at once, Like it was just
all it couldn't have been better. And it was like
by the way it was on film. Remember when we
were on film, Yeah, and it was like a six
month shoot all over the North wanted to rehoo the
scene and they'd just be like, we're going to go
(34:32):
back to that town in Massachusetts and reshoot a scene
because we decided it might be prettier under the light
of this. Like it was it was such like, I
don't know, like a dreamy time would be making.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Also like also there was so many more steaks, like
a hair in the gate when they would say there's
a hair in the gate and you just did something.
Why you'll never know.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, not savable, Yeah, that was Oliver. It was so
Julia Roberts.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And Don West and then it would Kirston Dunst, Maggie
Chillen Hall and Julia Styles.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh yeah, Dominic West is so good too, so great,
so fun.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
What an amazing like first yeah experience.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
And wait, I never thought about this before this moment,
but we were the whole thing that happened with NBC
and I was like, it's must see me night on
NBC when I did my scream on the One Show,
and then was fun when Mona Lisa Smile came out there.
I had an I had my second movie in the theater,
and I feel like it was like at the same
(35:35):
time or they were like right up next to each other,
and I was like, I think I'm gonna get stay,
like they're gonna let me do this, and I get stay.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah. That's I do that every every every time I
have like one that's like actually successful, I'm like, huh,
I got another ten years.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
That makes me feel so much better.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm like, I'm like, okay, okay, I got ten more
years of like trying to figure out if I good
ones are bad. I don't know. You know, it's it's
such a temperamental business. You know, it's like and as
an actor, you're just a hired gun, you know. It's
I think I feel like people there's this sort of
misunderstanding because you bear so much of the weight of
the success of the movie, and yet all of the
(36:17):
other people are the ones at the helm and you're
just out there representing it. And I mean from the
director to the producers to the studio, and then if
the movie does good or bad, it's kind of like
on your back and you had really nothing to do
with the process except them, except showing up for the.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Director say, I feel like when he came into it,
there was like a different manual, and I feel I
feel like maybe all of those actors would say I'm wrong,
but I feel like you got your foot in the
door in a significant way, and then it just like
the door stayed a jar. And I feel like it's
just a whole different beast now, Like the industry is
(36:55):
so different than movie started.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh my gosh. It's also you know, this businesses in
the last however five years plus, is definitely contracting. It's shrinking,
you know, as far as opportunity goes, as far as
content goes, especially in the broadcast world, it's just next
they're not even doing pilots anymore. I mean remember back
in the day NBCC, they'd have like forty pilots, I mean,
(37:22):
and then it was crazy and now that's completely gone.
And even in the streamer world, you know, it's just
they threw so much money into this business, and I
think after the strikes and after all the shit, it's like, well,
maybe we don't need on just shrinking, shrinking, shrinking.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I loved being you.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Know, during COVID, my husband went to work because he
was still on a show, and I found myself relaxing,
like truly relaxing, which I know is so backwards given
what was going on in the world that I was like,
there was suddenly like a, well, I can't I can't work,
Like there's no there.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Was no need work. He was on the desk so much, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And so there was like a we were like shoved
off the hamster wheel. And I know that I and
I feel like we've got Oliver. I feel like our
kids are about.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
The same age, right, eighteen fifteen, twelve, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You're twelve, right, because I've gotten almost twelve.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Wait, Kate holds your daughter seven and fourteen and twenty one.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Okay, well we're all on about the same world.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
We're all zoom schooling because I was like.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You know what, I can do this.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
With the zoom school and being home in the zoom
school and like and like, there's no option for me
to go try to get a job today.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
That's off, that's off the that's that's out of the
date books.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh god, I got it was. It was just so
much relief. There's weight off the shoulders. It was like,
oh shit, like there's nothing I can do. I was
like in a hazmat suit.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I mean, I was alone with my children and like
got my mom.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Sent me from Memphi. I thought this was the greatest
thing ever my mom. I was alone and I was
body training a pandemic puppy because we thought that was
a good idea.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I mean it was. It was a brilliant idea now
in retrospect, but at the time it was a lot.
And my mother shipped me a bottle.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
The woman doesn't drink a drop of alcohol shipped me
a bottle of Scotch and she was just like, I
just feel like you could use this.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Wow. Oh yeah. Yeah. I had my little pod, which
was like a pod of seventy eight people.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It was like it was like my pod and glass Onion.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Having the party. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm in my pod.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oliver was like, no, you definitely have had COVID already
like four times, Like you need to stay as far
away from us.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, I know, Kate. Kate would only text with me
because she thought I could give it to over the phone.
I talked.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy though, how gnarly it was,
and how it sort of overtook rat national thought. I mean,
I would go, I would I remember thinking this is
going to change the way that humans interact forever. Literally
I thought that. I thought. I thought, we're never going
to shake hands again, We're never probably going to hug
or kiss again. I mean I really thought that. And
(40:15):
I consider myself a pretty rational person. Yeah. I mean,
and now I think back on I'm like, well, I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well, but I think, can I say I think honestly,
it's been like a year and a half ago was
when people finally took the exhale and you were like, oh,
life is normal, And then you can feel that way
because now all of a sudden it's twenty twenty five,
and I swear to god, I look around at these parties.
You know that I go to a party. I mean
it's like the nineties again. I'm like, oh, everyone is partying.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I have been practicing with my kids saying no to.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Things that they don't know what it is like.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I make them actually act. That's where they're that's where
they are acting in life. That is where show biz
comes in because we actually act out scenes where I
have them practice saying no to me and I say
things like but I'm your best friend and you're being
a chicken.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
And then they come up with come so that they're
ready because I am terrified.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
And I said to them recently, I said, well, you know,
I just need you to come tell me. If you
ever want to do something, you just need to just
tell me first and we'll have a conversation about it,
like no problem, you won't be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And they were like, oh, you'll get us drugs and
I was like, I'm definitely not getting you drop.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's just like we're all like, right, you're taking this
the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's a tough thing to navigate. It really is, because
because you kind of like you you know from your
own experience in high school that like the the desire
to experiment, or you see certain people doing certain things
and you don't know if you want to do it
or not do it, and some of it looks really
(41:55):
fun and some of it's kind of scary, and and
then there is like pure pressure. Sure is like a
real thing. Like all of these things are tough to navigate.
But my my thing is is nowadays it's so much
scarier and so I it's like our life in the
nineties in the early like late nineties, we didn't have
(42:16):
the same kind of like scary.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
No, there was like there were like basil leaves ground
up in the weed. Ye was like.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
That's what it was. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
It was the time any of it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Every time they go out and say be smart, be
safe every time, and then I say, like, don't be
a fucking idiot. That's what I say I do. I'm like,
don't be a fucking idiot. It is don't be stupid.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
By the way, having kids, that's really just about trying
to keep another human alive, like at like all the
different stages, like I keep going like, will there be
a stage where I'm.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Not worried about the keeping you will know? It's just
gonna it's different kind of keeping you alive.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's more. I had someone say to me because I
was having a lot of anxiety about my kids at
one point, and she just goes, you know, with ride
or leaving, and she goes when I started to do that,
She's like, it's just I just went to faith not fear,
Faith not fear. And I was like, well, I like
that as a mantra. You know, I have that because
(43:23):
also when you show faith in your kids, you know,
and you show that you have trust in them and
you give them proper independence. I feel like they don't
take that for granted. They're sort of like, I know
that my mom has faith in me to be safe
and to do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, and you can't. The problem is we catastrophize about
what could happen to our kids. So we're creating this
stress and this anxiety and physical pain from something that
hasn't even happened yet. Anyway, Zutopia too, I have.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
A question, will you been doing a lot of voice
of her work, Like what how did this happen?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean I used to go into Disney and because
I'm like a real Disney nut, like I'm a Disney file,
like I was.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Raised on it.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I'm of the cult of like I've drunk Waltz kool Aid,
and I used to go. I asked my reps to
start sending me in for anything animated. I just wanted
because I felt like Disney was the I mean, that
was that was it for me.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
And I would go in and I.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Would just beg and say, like wherever you can stick me,
like seriously, stick me there, and I did a tinker
bell like one of these straight to well, it was
called straight to video.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
We don't have that anymore, do we. Anyway, it was
straight to video, straight to streaming. Now it was ste
and it was many years ago, and I.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Was then after that, I was still working on that
movie and I was cast. I was Once upon a Time,
which is Disney stories right with a modern twist. And
I was up in Canada, pregnant with my eldest and
I was literally sitting in Mickey Mouse pajamas on a
morning off and I got a phone call.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
I got one of those calls where like all.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Your reps are on the phone at once, and my
voiceover agent was in the mix.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And I turned to my husband and I said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Getting fired from Tinkerme And he was like, what do
you mean You're getting fired? And I'm like, wow, there
is a call and from all of the reps and
the attorneys and the voiceover agent is in that mix,
and so clearly Tinkermell and it was the Zutopia one offer.
So I have no idea how it happened, but it did.
(45:41):
And I did not read a script. I was just
told Jason Bateman and I would be buddy Cops, that
I would be a rabbit, that he would be a fox,
and would I like to sign the contract?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Did you ever a deep dive into sort of what
they heard why they wanted you?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
It was I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I thought they were going to say they were watching
Once upon a Time because it's Disney, or it had
something to do with the tinker Bell And one of
them was watching a movie that I did called He's
Just Not That Into You, and he said he was
listening to he was like doing something else and he
heard me on the TV in the other room, and
that that that was the project, which I thought it
(46:21):
was bonkers, right, And now I go to them, I
go to all my bosses at Disney, and I tell them,
if you have anything for me to do, I will
do it because I.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Love working for them so much. Like I just feel
like if I just did this forever, I'd be really okay.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, amazing, that's very cool. Dreams are coming true, so
cool Disney style.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Right, And then a little tinker Bell just flew behind
her head. I should rig that in here.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I love you, I love you. It was so good
to catch.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Up and all of its good to good to know you.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, fun, money was so much of this parenting, so
many of her I find that very inspiring.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Well, I think she said, I'm running with it just
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well, I hope I see you soon.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Same.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's been so long.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
That you literally look exactly the same I do.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Well, you really know it, you know, listen another couple
of years and you know we were all getting face left,
So to be.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Honest, let's just go and then we'll stay in and
we'll do recovery together.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We'll do it together. I love you, I love you, Bye.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Babe, bye bye bye. That was great. Kay, Oh, it
was so great.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Was so great to catch up with her. I love
her so much.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
She looks Disney. I mean, she like feels everything about her,
like the hair, the pixie hair.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
She didn't even take it. I can't even take how beautiful.
It's like she's like she's like a painting. And I
used to say that all the time we were working together.
Look at her face and I get like lost in
it because her eyes are so big, and she's just
like a porcelain skin. And yeah, she's like snow white,
I know. But then then she also looks like our stepmother.
She's very much Williams and.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I know so much. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, all right, tonight,
see you tonight, Mike,
Hi am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings. We are
a sibling, railvalr No, no, sibling.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good.
Hey oh oh oh, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1 (00:45):
Because we are interviewing you.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Calm down, girl, you shut up. Calmed down. If you're
going to be excited, you have to warn me first.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Jinny Goodwin and I did a movie called Something Borrowed together.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Someone asked me, so much shit.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Someone asked me on the carpet, what is the movie
that you wish you could do a sequel to? And
I was like, honestly, I really loved playing Darcy and
Something Borrowed. There was a there's a book after that
called Something Blue, but we never got to do it,
and that book is where Darcy ends up. She you know,
at the end of the movie, she's pregnant and selling
blue like it's the whole thing. And I was like,
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we had so much fun, Like those characters were so fun.
And then it's one of those movies that people always
say to me like that they love that movie. So
it kind of didn't do what we hoped it would
have done. But then, of course, like a lot of
these movies had this sort of different life. Yes, yes,
and so I'm excited to see Rachel. That's her character's name, Rachel, Rachel. Yeah,
(01:55):
that's her character's name, insighting borrowed. She talks like, no,
I don't know why I'm talking about theas I just
had to. Okay, let's Springer.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
And I can't wait.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
And now she's a mommy and I can't wait to
talk to her. I call her gig Oh right, Oh,
look at her pie on her Oh, Ginny is a
pumpkin pie pie.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
Hi, I have been like like six years, and every
time that I forgot to change the pie.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Don't ever change the pie.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
A treacle tart.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
If you ever want a trickle tart and make a
trickle tart, it's basically like lemon and syrup and breadcrumbs
and there's like nothing better.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
It's like a souppy pie and then you bake.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Soup and it's just like, are you a baker?
Speaker 4 (02:47):
I'm kind of a baker.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Well did you know that I was on the Greatest
British Bake Off for the celebrity version.
Speaker 4 (02:56):
What we Please have?
Speaker 3 (02:58):
And I like a like a viewing party and they
have to explain.
Speaker 4 (03:03):
What was really going on behind the scenes. I am dying.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah, well, Paul Hollywood improve. I was like starstruck because
I've seen every single episode.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And did you learn? You feel like you walked away?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Oh? You know what I did. I just followed the
recipe to a tea because baking is science. So I
was just like, I'm going to be precise, and that's
pretty much all I did. You know. I added a
little Hudson flare and threw some things in here, and
a little dash of this and a little sprinkle of that.
But for the most part, Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Listen, do not simplify baking.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
It's been the whole time talking about this waits so long.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
I know, I know, and I'm looking at your beautiful
face and you look exactly the same, and I love
you and I keep the same in your children, your mother.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Do you remember when I was like looking through your
purse and you had boy toys in there, and I
was like, oh, I want to have boy toys in
my purse some day, like the cars friend some day.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Exactly. And and your kid has the greatest name, the greatest.
It doesn't get better than that kid's name.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
Do you go by the way O l I for
your nickname?
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Or O l l I O l l I E
oh nice? Yeah, but people spelled differently. But he said
he's going to be extremely handsome, extremely charming. You know,
people are just going to gravitate towards him. His career
might be a little bit, but like everything else is
going to be great.
Speaker 1 (04:41):
That's the only Oliver, Like Oliver's are only like Mid.
They're handsome, but like Mid, I'm so happy for you.
I watch you from a distance always. But can we
get back? I'm making real quick before we get into
your whole life story, Oliver. Baking isn't just science. When
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you become a baker and you bake a lot, then
you start to you take the science and then you
improve upon the flavors the texture.
Speaker 4 (05:17):
Is that what you meant by Hudson's player, I don't.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Think you know who the fuck you're talking to, right listen.
I don't think Yeah, I don't think you know you're
talking to. Once you see this show, you were going
to retract everything you say.
Speaker 4 (05:31):
Again people will put me on the show.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
I'm like, here's the thing. I am excellent and embarrassing myself.
I am really good at failing at things, and like.
Speaker 4 (05:41):
I think that that could be entertaining. I think you
should let something.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
It will be fun, so much fun. When Oliver was
doing it, I got so excited.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
Oh god, I was so excited. I couldn't believe I
was in the tent. I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm in.
Speaker 4 (06:01):
And I buy the swag and it's in my kitchen.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I hear the music.
Speaker 4 (06:06):
Oh that's my that's actually my time around my phone.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
It's a really oh my god.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
So before also we get in this, Ginny and I
met on something Borrowed, which is a very talked about me.
I don't know if you have this experienced Ginny, but
like I people talk to me about this the movie
all the time.
Speaker 4 (06:23):
I get stopped for this movie all the time.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
And do you remember they wanted to cut the dance
scene and people ask me about the dance scene constantly.
Oh yeah, my sons, like their girlfriends at school have
been they've been learning the dance.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Oh oh yeah, I'm not a bunch of twelve year olds.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I show up, I like the assistant librarian when I'm
not doing other things. And I have shown up on
campus and had the girls be like, hey missus Dallas, look.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
In the Oh my god, that's the best. I feel
like that. I feel like that dance has had a
real great life, definitely, like but I can't believe, like,
you know, the movie when it came out, like wasn't
like this giant success, but then the it's just had
this like it's just wild and it bonkers. Yeah. And
(07:16):
I was saying to Ollie that I get asked about
it on the carpet all the time, like you know,
I was on the carpet not that long ago, and
they were like, what's the movie that you would want
to do the sequel? And I was like, well, I
something borrowed. We never got to do the sequel. And
it was like, you know that that book Something Blue,
it was sort of like would have been like the
(07:37):
best circle for that movie and we never got to
do it follow up.
Speaker 4 (07:41):
But now I want her.
Speaker 3 (07:42):
I feel like she I would I would not want
to go back and do Something Blue at this point.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
I mean we're kind of too old.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
I remember the care. You know.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
I had a monologue and something borrowed spiraling about turning thirty,
and I'm like, I am.
Speaker 4 (07:59):
Gonna be soon.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Yeah, And what I would like is for her to
write another book where we are further Yes.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
And wouldn't that be in? And then we and then
we could do we could do like a like a
flashback to something Blue with other girls.
Speaker 3 (08:18):
Yes, I love this, and I can go hang out
while they're filming exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
You're not quite there yet. But your daughters, you know,
if you were older, it could be your daughters. Yes,
oh that's cool, you.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Know, but Emily, look, she whips them out, so she
could always. I mean she she knows how to write
those books.
Speaker 3 (08:38):
I mean, every time I'm asked about this impressed, I'm like, well,
she'd like to write another one where you've got some
ladies in their forties.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
I mean, i'd be getting we're in, We're.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
In, so Jinny. You grew up in Memphis. I did,
And I realized I started this in our intro, like
in doing like a southern accent. Oh yeah, I don't
know why why that's why? And but you lost your accent.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
It was like beaten out of me in theater schools.
They were like, you can, every character can have this accent.
Speaker 4 (09:12):
I was like that tracks, that makes sense. I didn't
say tracks, that's such a filmy shirt.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
But does your whole family have hardcore like Tennessee accents?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
I mean it's hard as I feel like I'm slipping
into it.
Speaker 4 (09:25):
It's actually I feel like it's hard for me to
hear it in them because it's just like how they sound.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
But I feel like anywhere I go I can identify
specifically like a southwestern Tennessee accent, like if there's if
I'm on a plane, I'll.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Be like, something's Tennessee.
Speaker 3 (09:41):
Like I feel like there's a there's a very specific
vowels thing that we do, and so I can't hear
it in other people. But yeah, I mean I've heard videos,
I've seen videos of myself as a child.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
And I can't believe I'm in the same human being.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
That's crazy. Wait did you consciously beat it out of yourself?
Meaning it's like I worked you worked at it.
Speaker 3 (10:02):
Yes, like lots of dialect classes, wow, And sometimes things
like slip through like I definitely like I can't say.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Boots right, But then it just becomes just by road,
it's just who you are, or do you still try
to not?
Speaker 4 (10:18):
I think like I dream.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think I dream in like a not Southern accent now,
like it's not part of me. Yeah, But then some
words I hear, and especially doing voiceover work these days,
I really hear things as they're coming out of my
mouth and I'm like, that's getting away from me.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
And that's too, that's not the right sound.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Isn't that so interesting? You essentially, you know, take a
part of yourself and just and just it just disappears
like you just beat it down, like it's no law.
You were this Jenny was this person, and there's a
piece of her that is no longer that person because
of the actual.
Speaker 3 (10:52):
I did a movie set in Tennessee, like I don't
know three four years ago, and they brought in a
dialect coach and I was like, you know, I'm.
Speaker 4 (11:01):
Going to take that.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
I'm gonna I'm going to go shopping, I'm going to
go eat lunch. And they were like, actually, you need
more work. The getting getting the accent than right again
was a whole process.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
Yeah, that's wild. I see it with kids. I've known
a couple of kids that have moved from London to
the States when they're young, and and they like my
ex went back to London his little daughter. She is
a full English accent, full like you know, have you
(11:38):
seen daddy? You know, and then all and then she
comes back here and it within four months she has
an American accent. Oh so wild. Yeah, and so you
realize like language is just learned, you know, it's like yeah,
and then and then you realize like some people have
(11:58):
a stronger connection to it, Like I can't do certain accents.
It doesn't come easy to me, but Rider for some
reason can do any accent like like almost like it's
a great ear. Yeah, Like I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And I'm surprised that you don't feel you do well
because also with your being musical, I feel like there's
something about that that's got to be connected.
Speaker 1 (12:21):
I could do certain accents, but but like the Australian
forget it, I'd have to like really work at it.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Like there's certain things.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
That have I just think they got that's the Australian word,
and I can't do them.
Speaker 4 (12:33):
I can't do them at all.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Oh, So when you grew up in Memphis, was the
Peabody Hotel and the Duck something that you would do
as a little girl or is that just like a
touristy thing.
Speaker 4 (12:44):
No, no, no, it's still it's still fabulous. And I
have taken my kids to see it.
Speaker 3 (12:48):
And I mean because we would also have like you'd
have like dances there, and I mean I am from
I am from the place in the time of like
the Debutante ball something so like would have their parties there.
Speaker 4 (12:58):
I didn't have, but I I was aware.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Explain how like where did you grow Did you grow
up in the city or were you outside of Memphis?
Speaker 2 (13:07):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (13:08):
You say Memphis, so right by the way.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
Oh is there a way to say it?
Speaker 4 (13:14):
Well, she said, Memphis. It's almost like it's like dipthong.
It's like got two sounds in a.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Memphis, Memphis, Memphis. I'm going to Memphis. I'm going to Memphis, Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (13:24):
I think you were local.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
I'm actually going there soon because my director is from
there for this movie coming out song Sung Blue. He's
he lives there, Craig Brewer, and we're doing it.
Speaker 4 (13:35):
He does.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
I've read them for four hundred years. I grew up
in I guess what you'd call the suburbs. But my
family was very like Memphian in that I had two
my grandfathers on both sides were both well one was
an engineer and one was a developer, and so a
lot of like they contributed to the building up of Memphis,
you know, in like the like early mid nineteen hundreds.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
And then my dad was in the music.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Industry until I was, I mean until I was like
in middle school, and he had and he was a performer,
and then he stopped performing when he decided that he
wanted to be home with his family and he wanted
to stop touring, and so he ended up opening a recording.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
Studio on Beale Street.
Speaker 3 (14:20):
So also, I feel like my youth was very like
I don't know, sort of idyllically Memphis.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
And what about your mom?
Speaker 4 (14:29):
My mom was.
Speaker 3 (14:31):
First she was a stay at home mom, and then
she became a substitute teacher, and then she decided to
like go to college and get her bachelor's and her
master's and her doctorate and became an expert in technology
and education.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
So if you like I have to ask my mom
or my children how to handle things.
Speaker 1 (14:49):
So is she doctor Goodwin? She is that's such a
good doctor name. Oh cool, Doctor Goodwin is the best.
That's like a character in a movie. I know, but
it kind of sounds like it could be like a
Marvel like doctor Goodwin.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Right, but she's bad, Yeah, she's.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Kind of she's kind of evil.
Speaker 4 (15:10):
Your kids, did you go.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Through this or this is just like the jerkiest thing
ever that I'm admitting. Did you go through and like
make sure that your kids' names sounded good with like
all the careers.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Well, I would do this thing where I would.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Go ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
I go ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 4 (15:26):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
The recipient of the Booker Prize, Yeah, oh yeah, Ronnie
Rose Hudson, Fuji Cow. I was like, Okay, that works.
Speaker 2 (15:36):
I mean, I guess that's a lot.
Speaker 1 (15:39):
I was like, I was like, ladies and gentlemen, you know,
the honorable, the honorable, I don't know, the audible.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
Wilder Brooks Hudson, Yeah, good one, Wilder Brooks Hudson sounds
like more of like a Booker Prize winner. Wilder wild Yeah,
that sound literary. What about body Bodie han hud He's ompics.
Speaker 3 (16:08):
We did this like everything we could think of, and
then I was actually sitting on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
Speaker 4 (16:14):
I think it was Jimmy Kimmel.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
And he said, you do realize that you gave your
son Oliver the initials O D.
Speaker 4 (16:21):
And I was like, I actually looked at that.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
I made adopt and I thought I'm president and all of.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Those thank you so much, OD and Odd, thank Youkay.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
My issue for my third kid is next up on
the number one stage, Rio Hudson.
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Please, no, any of your kids want to be in showbiz.
Speaker 2 (16:51):
They all do, every single one of them.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
I don't even know what to do about this. In
the Halloween Parade, Ronnie decided to be a bride with
her best friend their ghost brides, but she already was that,
and then she's like, I don't want to put the
ghost makeup on. I just want to put like, you know,
lipstick and thing. Of course. So now she's basically in
a gown with her best friend and she's waving at
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all of the parents like she's like, oh, it's so funny. Well,
it's more like I feel like she wants to marry
a royal. I feel like her, and like, good idea,
what louis, what's the I like this it's a good idea.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
It is a good idea.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
It's better than questions about that too awful idea. It's Ronnie.
I have to visit her at like Buckingham Palace. Can
I see my daughter?
Speaker 2 (17:48):
Please?
Speaker 1 (17:49):
Please wait in the wait in the I'm not allowed
to certain things.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
What about your kids? Are they inclined anyway?
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Well, we thought we would want to keep them as
far from show business as possible, and like both my
husband and I feel like he's an actor as well,
and we both feel like there is no greater blessing
than this. However, we got on rejection and like, you know,
very unsustainable, sort of unstable life, and so we have wanted.
Speaker 4 (18:18):
Something, yeah, just a little bit different for them.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
My husband and I came out of the womb from
our respective mothers with jazz hands. And so then when
our children, as much as we thought we wanted to
set them up for like you know, careers and finance,
when they came out and did not want to be
in show business, We're like, what did we do wrong?
Speaker 2 (18:37):
Why? Right?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Yeah, no, I don't know. So my husband's now actually doing.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
A lot of volunteering for the school and get it,
trying to get my kids. He's worse than performing arts.
In his spare time in the performing arts department, trying
to get our kids revved up about things like SpongeBob
the Musical. But right now my youngest wants to be No,
I'm actually really happy. My youngest who's nine, Hugh, he
told me he wants to be a CFO and I
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had to look up what that was.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
She's financial officer of what business?
Speaker 4 (19:08):
Okay, I get good.
Speaker 3 (19:09):
So I have been finishing at the movie Zotobia too,
And I took them to Disney, like rolled out their
red carpet and let me have a bring my kids
to work day.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
And they just showered my.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
Children in actual candy and took let them play on
the animation software and watch mommy work and like here's
how lighting works and here's how editing works and all
the things. And I was like, oh, maybe they'll want
to be in the arts now. And they came out
and Hugo goes, now I want to be and we
were like yes, and he goes THEO with Disney, that's.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
A good idea. Yeah, that sounds great with us.
Speaker 4 (19:44):
We're totally good at this.
Speaker 3 (19:46):
And the other one's like, you know, I'm going to
be a pro soccer player and maybe a surgeon at
the same time.
Speaker 4 (19:50):
Of course, gotcha, we got how old is he? Eleven?
Speaker 1 (19:54):
Can you believe you? You're a boy mommy? I know
I was a boy mommy for a long time.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
How different is it now? Like I can't even fathom having.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Oh it's so different, and everybody sort of is like
you know, I mean I remember when she was first born,
it was like, how different is it? I'm like, well,
she just like poops and sleeps and I don't know yet,
like let's give it some time. But the second hurt,
she started like developing all I mean, just she is
all girl and like, I mean, it couldn't be more different.
(20:28):
I mean she sits in sometimes the kitchen. You know,
my rider's now twenty one, graduating graduating from NYU this year.
She'll sit in the room at six years old and
the boys are and she just rolls her eyes. She's
just like, what is wrong with you guys? Shes like
(20:49):
she's girls just they're just we're so different. We're just
wired so differently. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, So now.
Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'm surrounded by boys. I have a boy dog.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
I mean, it's there's my son, my eldest, and I
share clothes now, so that's like but like keeping the
estrogeneral live in the houses.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
So, Genny, how many siblings do you have?
Speaker 4 (21:27):
I have one sister.
Speaker 3 (21:28):
I have two stepsisters, but I was not raised with them.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
My parents remarried later.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
So they are my stepsisters, but I don't I don't
know them as well as I wish I did.
Speaker 4 (21:38):
But I am very close to my.
Speaker 3 (21:41):
Little sister, who's really only two years younger than me.
So basically, I mean, now we're the same age.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
And you you grew up and you were in Memphis
your whole childhood.
Speaker 3 (21:50):
Whole childhood, always wanted to be an actress. No, always
was going to be an actress. There was no backup plan.
So there was no question that I was not staying
in Memphis, and I I yeah, I picked up and
left and I moved to Well. I went to theater
schools and my sister went to art school. She's a
visual artist and an animator. So also we've always had
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like sibling careers, which has been lovely and overlaps, like
she had me cast in her first animated series.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
So my first voice over job was through.
Speaker 3 (22:18):
My sister and now I left as cameos and all
the things that I do.
Speaker 4 (22:22):
Sh oh, you know what? She was in something borrowed.
She was in a bar scene.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
It's always like a Where's Waldo game for my family, Okay,
and like it's fun because ads will get competitive. Like
I have to say, I think walk the Line one
because they put her in like a scene where basically
everything was in unintentional I mean intentional per art direction
and costumes, but like.
Speaker 4 (22:45):
The image was almost black and white.
Speaker 3 (22:47):
And then my sister's in this like bright blue airline
stewardess uniform like coming down and escalator right behind Joaquin Phoenix.
And I was like, I don't know if that can
be toped as where were called? From my family? Yeah,
but I think for a while too, my family would
get more excited about finding her than they, like they
were used to seeing me on screen, so like I'd
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be in a screening with them and then they would
just all start screaming when they would see my sister, right, and.
Speaker 4 (23:18):
Like now I had and now she's like making like has.
Speaker 3 (23:20):
Little cameos even in the you know, like in the
Zutopia movies, She's got little roles.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
And things like that.
Speaker 3 (23:25):
And is she in la you know what she was
And this isn't me like talking out of school because
she's been public about it.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
But she lost her husband. She's got two very small children.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
She lost her husband cancer a couple of years ago,
and she developed cancer. She's fine, she's great, she's in remission.
But she I think did like the greatest thing for
herself and her kids. And she moved to be with
her late husband's family. So she moved out of state.
It's the first time we haven't been together, so that's
(23:56):
been an adjustment because we've always been down the street
from each other, like except for college years, our whole lives.
We were roommates after college, so it's been an adjustment.
Speaker 4 (24:05):
But I do think it's like the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
For where did she move to?
Speaker 4 (24:10):
She moved to Phoenix, Okay?
Speaker 1 (24:12):
And does and does does the family have like siblings?
Did he have siblings?
Speaker 4 (24:17):
And that it's a great family.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
So now she's like literally in the neighborhood with her
late husband's family in the all dream boats.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
I know, me too, me to want to cry.
Speaker 4 (24:29):
Yeah, it's like the greatest thing ever. So I know
that it was a big like yeah, she's she's in her.
Speaker 3 (24:35):
Forties and suddenly, like life is presented her with a
very different.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
How old are her kids?
Speaker 4 (24:42):
They are three and seven.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
They're littles, They're little guys.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
So also, I have never taken my children to any
kind of Hollywood event at all.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
They don't even know what they are.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
My children have been campaigning to come to the Zutopia
two premiere, which was a whole thing that we can
get into, which is a very fun negotiation. But anyway,
my sister and her eldest are also coming, so we're
going to be dates to the fun the kids.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
What is the negotiation, Well, my whole.
Speaker 4 (25:14):
Thing has been.
Speaker 3 (25:16):
I let them come to sets. They're allowed to set
a video village, and like you know, I try to
make sure that it's like a child appropriate day. Though
at times I have thought that things would go over
their heads, and things did not go over their heads,
or at least they did not know not to repeat
lines about like infidelity at preschool.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
And then I had to go to pre school and say,
by the way, my husband and I are fine. This
was a line that he heard repeatedly.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
That you pick up on it. There's a lot of
infidelity in my house for a lot.
Speaker 3 (25:53):
But so we've never let them come to anything. We've
kept it all so very separate, and they really really.
Speaker 4 (26:00):
Want to come to this premiere.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Now they don't know what that really means. And they
asked me recently because you know, when Disney has these premieres,
they like shut down Hollywood Boulevard and you know, it's
it's I can't even fathom how many people are like
on the street, on the sidewalks. And my kids were like, hey,
do you remember when we went to the next game
And I was like yeah. They were like, you remember
when we left the next game and there were photographers
(26:23):
outside by the way, There were like two photographers And
I was like yeah, And they were like, is it
going to be that kind of crazy?
Speaker 4 (26:30):
And I was like, I'm like, we're going to need to,
like you need.
Speaker 1 (26:35):
To show them.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
You need to show them like a YouTube video or something.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
I'm gonna have to.
Speaker 3 (26:41):
They've gotten them, so they want to they want to come,
and so they're actually going to come on the press
tour for all, like they're going to do some la
and then everything international a with me and what we
said it right, I've never taken them out of school
for anything.
Speaker 4 (26:57):
So this is gonna be the all thing. I haven't
told the school yet.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
They might be finding out listening to this podcast that
we got them little suits. And what I said to
them was, if you walk this carpet with us, which
is what they want to do, I said, we are not, Like,
you're not gonna then like go sit at the computer
and like google yourself, like we're gonna like we're gonna
have eyes on this like this, We're gonna pretend I know,
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the math doesn't add up, like there is no math.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
That works there.
Speaker 3 (27:24):
You're gonna walk on red carpet and we're not posting
about it and we're not googling it and we're not
We're just gonna pretend it's.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
Like the nineteen fifties.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
Yeah, or do what our dad did, which is no
one really cares about you. And I'm like Kurt was
always Kurt was like, here's the deal, here's a deal.
This is all smoke and mirrors. It means nothing because
there's a there's nine billion people in the world that
don't give a shit. So remember, we're having a box. Remember,
(27:53):
and it has nothing to do with you, yes, and
who you are and what you've offered. Yeah, like it's
like it's we had like the opposite, we had like
the harsh, like the hars.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
Like, guys, this is this is like I don't think
this is real. This is I don't think this is real.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
This is all insane.
Speaker 4 (28:12):
Yeah, no, I love this.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
I think that's how that's healthy. Though it's healthy, I
think too. I think so it is. I think so
it's like, look, you guys, this is fun. I get it.
It's fun. But then it's all bullshit. It's not this.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It's not reality right now. You know, who knows how
long this? I think I think that's the real thing.
Who knows how long is this actually lasts? Let's talk
about your first job, like what was your very first job,
(28:47):
and like what was your sad card job?
Speaker 4 (28:50):
My sag card job.
Speaker 3 (28:51):
Was a lawn order episode. Yes, I I was a
I was a club girl.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
That was my name.
Speaker 3 (29:01):
I believe was club girl. And I by the way,
I had to wear my own clothes and I did
my own I think I did my own hair.
Speaker 4 (29:07):
But I think they did my makeup.
Speaker 3 (29:09):
In the audition, I was auditioning to stand beside the
girl that found the body in the cold open, and
when I was in the audition, I asked if I
could please instead audition as well for the girl who screams,
(29:29):
and I got it. So I got to scream when
I saw the body, and then you see me in
the background after that, dunt d't you see me being
interviewed by the cops. And that was my entire role,
but it aired wildly. On the same night, I had
become a recurring actor on ED on induc which was
(29:52):
about the h and my first episode of ED aired
the same night on NBC, right after Law and Order,
and really I.
Speaker 2 (30:06):
Had made it's a double feature.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
How old were you I was.
Speaker 3 (30:11):
Right out of theater school, so I was in my
very earth. This would have been two thousand and one.
I was in my very early twenties, and I wanted
to be a theater actress, but as I always say,
the theater wouldn't have me, and so I decided. I
was like, I would go to London and see shows,
and like, I don't know, celebrities were.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
All like TV and movie stars were always on stage.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
I was like, oh, maybe if I get one of
those jobs, then they'll let me be in a play.
Speaker 4 (30:36):
So then the.
Speaker 3 (30:37):
Focus became trying to do TV and film and I've
like yet to make back.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
I like, I've done a play in la I was
what to say. I was about to ask you did
you did you follow the plan?
Speaker 3 (30:49):
I mean no, because also that's it's I've gotten really
I like cutting the line at Disneyland, and I like
what I know of a theater life. It's like, it's
that is an noble life. That is a life of integrity.
That's a lot of work and hard hours.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
I think too when you're in the middle of it
with kids, Like I know, for me, like I want
to I want to do Broadway so bad, and I
just can't do it with kids. I've got kids in school.
Speaker 4 (31:18):
It's not friendly.
Speaker 1 (31:19):
It's I've got to wait. You know, I'm going to
be old on I don't have to be old you know,
or do like a month.
Speaker 4 (31:25):
Yeah, so limited. So we're great. And how about during
the summer, how about some Shakespeare in the park. How
about we do Shakespeare in the park?
Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yes, and we offer them something for our dance break
right in the middle, but we.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Push dance break in the middle of like Taming of
the Shrew. And then when was the thing where you
were like, Oh my god, like I actually am making
a living in life as an as an actress.
Speaker 4 (31:54):
An actress.
Speaker 3 (31:55):
Yeah, I remember I was on like one of my
first ever mobile phones and I.
Speaker 4 (32:02):
Was like a flip phone.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
And this would have been in I don't know if
this was in two thousand and one. I think this
was in the fall of two thousand and one. I
remember I was in Times Square and my reps called me.
I was really lucky in that I had agents like
pick me up from a college showcase, so I was
represented by the time I moved to New York and
(32:26):
I had gone in and auditioned for Mike Newell for
Mona Lisa's Smile.
Speaker 2 (32:31):
I got to remember that movie. Oh my god.
Speaker 3 (32:33):
I remember being in that audition and like I didn't
know what I was doing. So I was head to
toe nineteen fifties, like I had figured. I had gone
to the library and gotten books about like you know,
how women did their hair in the nineteen fifties, and
like I went in and character and I wasn't trying
to be a dick.
Speaker 4 (32:46):
I just like I didn't know what I was doing.
And I remember they called me.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
I was in Times Square on that flip phone, and
they said they're going to cast you in the movie.
And they don't know which of the girls you're going
to be one of the four girls, and they don't
know which girl you're going to be, but they but
but you'll you'll be in the You're in the movie.
And I remember like I fell over, like I actually
physically fell over in Times Square and then like they
(33:14):
like crawled into the Starbucks because I just couldn't, like
I couldn't walk.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1 (33:19):
Yeah, that's so that's like the best feeling, isn't it,
Because when you want, like we we share this in that,
when you want something, when you're like that's what I'm
gonna do, like there's just no question. And then and
then finally you're like, oh, I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 4 (33:36):
Yes, it's real, it's really happening.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
They're gonna let me.
Speaker 4 (33:39):
They're gonna let me.
Speaker 2 (33:43):
Through this.
Speaker 4 (33:44):
And then it was the greatest experience.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
I mean, honestly, it's one of my favorite jobs I've
ever had, too, because Julia Roberts was the greatest like
I don't know chaperone through a first movie ever, Like
she really took me under her wing and I felt
so I don't know, I felt like I had such
a good example of just being like a real pro
but making everybody on a set. She made everybody on
(34:08):
the set feel like they were the most important person
in the room.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
She was the first one there, the.
Speaker 3 (34:11):
Last one to leave. She had the flu and was
still doing off camera for me, like and so it
just like I was like, this is it was like
all my Christmases came at once, Like it was just
all it couldn't have been better. And it was like
by the way it was on film. Remember when we
were on film, Yeah, and it was like a six
month shoot all over the North wanted to rehoo the
scene and they'd just be like, we're going to go
(34:32):
back to that town in Massachusetts and reshoot a scene
because we decided it might be prettier under the light
of this. Like it was it was such like, I
don't know, like a dreamy time would be making.
Speaker 1 (34:41):
Also like also there was so many more steaks, like
a hair in the gate when they would say there's
a hair in the gate and you just did something.
Why you'll never know.
Speaker 4 (34:51):
Yeah, not savable, Yeah, that was Oliver. It was so
Julia Roberts.
Speaker 3 (34:57):
And Don West and then it would Kirston Dunst, Maggie
Chillen Hall and Julia Styles.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh yeah, Dominic West is so good too, so great,
so fun.
Speaker 1 (35:11):
What an amazing like first yeah experience.
Speaker 3 (35:15):
And wait, I never thought about this before this moment,
but we were the whole thing that happened with NBC
and I was like, it's must see me night on
NBC when I did my scream on the One Show,
and then was fun when Mona Lisa Smile came out there.
I had an I had my second movie in the theater,
and I feel like it was like at the same
(35:35):
time or they were like right up next to each other,
and I was like, I think I'm gonna get stay,
like they're gonna let me do this, and I get stay.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
Yeah. That's I do that every every every time I
have like one that's like actually successful, I'm like, huh,
I got another ten years.
Speaker 4 (35:53):
That makes me feel so much better.
Speaker 1 (35:55):
I'm like, I'm like, okay, okay, I got ten more
years of like trying to figure out if I good
ones are bad. I don't know. You know, it's it's
such a temperamental business. You know, it's like and as
an actor, you're just a hired gun, you know. It's
I think I feel like people there's this sort of
misunderstanding because you bear so much of the weight of
the success of the movie, and yet all of the
(36:17):
other people are the ones at the helm and you're
just out there representing it. And I mean from the
director to the producers to the studio, and then if
the movie does good or bad, it's kind of like
on your back and you had really nothing to do
with the process except them, except showing up for the.
Speaker 3 (36:34):
Director say, I feel like when he came into it,
there was like a different manual, and I feel I
feel like maybe all of those actors would say I'm wrong,
but I feel like you got your foot in the
door in a significant way, and then it just like
the door stayed a jar. And I feel like it's
just a whole different beast now, Like the industry is
(36:55):
so different than movie started.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
Oh my gosh. It's also you know, this businesses in
the last however five years plus, is definitely contracting. It's shrinking,
you know, as far as opportunity goes, as far as
content goes, especially in the broadcast world, it's just next
they're not even doing pilots anymore. I mean remember back
in the day NBCC, they'd have like forty pilots, I mean,
(37:22):
and then it was crazy and now that's completely gone.
And even in the streamer world, you know, it's just
they threw so much money into this business, and I
think after the strikes and after all the shit, it's like, well,
maybe we don't need on just shrinking, shrinking, shrinking.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
I loved being you.
Speaker 3 (37:41):
Know, during COVID, my husband went to work because he
was still on a show, and I found myself relaxing,
like truly relaxing, which I know is so backwards given
what was going on in the world that I was like,
there was suddenly like a, well, I can't I can't work,
Like there's no there.
Speaker 2 (38:00):
Was no need work. He was on the desk so much, right, Yeah.
Speaker 3 (38:05):
And so there was like a we were like shoved
off the hamster wheel. And I know that I and
I feel like we've got Oliver. I feel like our
kids are about.
Speaker 2 (38:14):
The same age, right, eighteen fifteen, twelve, Oh yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:18):
You're twelve, right, because I've gotten almost twelve.
Speaker 2 (38:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (38:21):
Wait, Kate holds your daughter seven and fourteen and twenty one.
Speaker 4 (38:26):
Okay, well we're all on about the same world.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
We're all zoom schooling because I was like.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
You know what, I can do this.
Speaker 3 (38:31):
With the zoom school and being home in the zoom
school and like and like, there's no option for me
to go try to get a job today.
Speaker 4 (38:38):
That's off, that's off the that's that's out of the
date books.
Speaker 2 (38:41):
Oh god, I got it was. It was just so
much relief. There's weight off the shoulders. It was like,
oh shit, like there's nothing I can do. I was
like in a hazmat suit.
Speaker 4 (38:54):
I mean, I was alone with my children and like
got my mom.
Speaker 3 (38:58):
Sent me from Memphi. I thought this was the greatest
thing ever my mom. I was alone and I was
body training a pandemic puppy because we thought that was
a good idea.
Speaker 4 (39:07):
I mean it was. It was a brilliant idea now
in retrospect, but at the time it was a lot.
And my mother shipped me a bottle.
Speaker 3 (39:14):
The woman doesn't drink a drop of alcohol shipped me
a bottle of Scotch and she was just like, I
just feel like you could use this.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Wow. Oh yeah. Yeah. I had my little pod, which
was like a pod of seventy eight people.
Speaker 1 (39:28):
It was like it was like my pod and glass Onion.
Speaker 2 (39:33):
Having the party. Yeah, and I'm like, I'm in my pod.
Speaker 4 (39:37):
It's like that.
Speaker 1 (39:38):
Oliver was like, no, you definitely have had COVID already
like four times, Like you need to stay as far
away from us.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
No, I know, Kate. Kate would only text with me
because she thought I could give it to over the phone.
I talked.
Speaker 4 (39:52):
We didn't know.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy though, how gnarly it was,
and how it sort of overtook rat national thought. I mean,
I would go, I would I remember thinking this is
going to change the way that humans interact forever. Literally
I thought that. I thought. I thought, we're never going
to shake hands again, We're never probably going to hug
or kiss again. I mean I really thought that. And
(40:15):
I consider myself a pretty rational person. Yeah. I mean,
and now I think back on I'm like, well, I'm like,
what the fuck?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Well, but I think, can I say I think honestly,
it's been like a year and a half ago was
when people finally took the exhale and you were like, oh,
life is normal, And then you can feel that way
because now all of a sudden it's twenty twenty five,
and I swear to god, I look around at these parties.
You know that I go to a party. I mean
it's like the nineties again. I'm like, oh, everyone is partying.
Speaker 3 (40:45):
I have been practicing with my kids saying no to.
Speaker 4 (40:50):
Things that they don't know what it is like.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
I make them actually act. That's where they're that's where
they are acting in life. That is where show biz
comes in because we actually act out scenes where I
have them practice saying no to me and I say
things like but I'm your best friend and you're being
a chicken.
Speaker 4 (41:06):
And then they come up with come so that they're
ready because I am terrified.
Speaker 3 (41:10):
And I said to them recently, I said, well, you know,
I just need you to come tell me. If you
ever want to do something, you just need to just
tell me first and we'll have a conversation about it,
like no problem, you won't be in trouble.
Speaker 4 (41:20):
And they were like, oh, you'll get us drugs and
I was like, I'm definitely not getting you drop.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
That's just like we're all like, right, you're taking this
the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (41:33):
It's a tough thing to navigate. It really is, because
because you kind of like you you know from your
own experience in high school that like the the desire
to experiment, or you see certain people doing certain things
and you don't know if you want to do it
or not do it, and some of it looks really
(41:55):
fun and some of it's kind of scary, and and
then there is like pure pressure. Sure is like a
real thing. Like all of these things are tough to navigate.
But my my thing is is nowadays it's so much
scarier and so I it's like our life in the
nineties in the early like late nineties, we didn't have
(42:16):
the same kind of like scary.
Speaker 3 (42:20):
No, there was like there were like basil leaves ground
up in the weed. Ye was like.
Speaker 4 (42:29):
That's what it was. I don't even know.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
It was the time any of it.
Speaker 2 (42:35):
Every time they go out and say be smart, be
safe every time, and then I say, like, don't be
a fucking idiot. That's what I say I do. I'm like,
don't be a fucking idiot. It is don't be stupid.
Speaker 4 (42:46):
Isn't it crazy?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
By the way, having kids, that's really just about trying
to keep another human alive, like at like all the
different stages, like I keep going like, will there be
a stage where I'm.
Speaker 4 (42:55):
Not worried about the keeping you will know? It's just
gonna it's different kind of keeping you alive.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
It's more. I had someone say to me because I
was having a lot of anxiety about my kids at
one point, and she just goes, you know, with ride
or leaving, and she goes when I started to do that,
She's like, it's just I just went to faith not fear,
Faith not fear. And I was like, well, I like
that as a mantra. You know, I have that because
(43:23):
also when you show faith in your kids, you know,
and you show that you have trust in them and
you give them proper independence. I feel like they don't
take that for granted. They're sort of like, I know
that my mom has faith in me to be safe
and to do the right thing.
Speaker 2 (43:38):
Yeah, and you can't. The problem is we catastrophize about
what could happen to our kids. So we're creating this
stress and this anxiety and physical pain from something that
hasn't even happened yet. Anyway, Zutopia too, I have.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
A question, will you been doing a lot of voice
of her work, Like what how did this happen?
Speaker 4 (44:13):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (44:14):
I mean I used to go into Disney and because
I'm like a real Disney nut, like I'm a Disney file,
like I was.
Speaker 4 (44:20):
Raised on it.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
I'm of the cult of like I've drunk Waltz kool Aid,
and I used to go. I asked my reps to
start sending me in for anything animated. I just wanted
because I felt like Disney was the I mean, that
was that was it for me.
Speaker 4 (44:34):
And I would go in and I.
Speaker 3 (44:35):
Would just beg and say, like wherever you can stick me,
like seriously, stick me there, and I did a tinker
bell like one of these straight to well, it was
called straight to video.
Speaker 4 (44:45):
We don't have that anymore, do we. Anyway, it was
straight to video, straight to streaming. Now it was ste
and it was many years ago, and I.
Speaker 3 (44:55):
Was then after that, I was still working on that
movie and I was cast. I was Once upon a Time,
which is Disney stories right with a modern twist. And
I was up in Canada, pregnant with my eldest and
I was literally sitting in Mickey Mouse pajamas on a
morning off and I got a phone call.
Speaker 4 (45:12):
I got one of those calls where like all.
Speaker 3 (45:13):
Your reps are on the phone at once, and my
voiceover agent was in the mix.
Speaker 4 (45:18):
And I turned to my husband and I said, I'm.
Speaker 3 (45:20):
Getting fired from Tinkerme And he was like, what do
you mean You're getting fired? And I'm like, wow, there
is a call and from all of the reps and
the attorneys and the voiceover agent is in that mix,
and so clearly Tinkermell and it was the Zutopia one offer.
So I have no idea how it happened, but it did.
(45:41):
And I did not read a script. I was just
told Jason Bateman and I would be buddy Cops, that
I would be a rabbit, that he would be a fox,
and would I like to sign the contract?
Speaker 2 (45:52):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (45:53):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (45:54):
Did you ever a deep dive into sort of what
they heard why they wanted you?
Speaker 4 (45:59):
It was I thought it was.
Speaker 3 (46:01):
I thought they were going to say they were watching
Once upon a Time because it's Disney, or it had
something to do with the tinker Bell And one of
them was watching a movie that I did called He's
Just Not That Into You, and he said he was
listening to he was like doing something else and he
heard me on the TV in the other room, and
that that that was the project, which I thought it
(46:21):
was bonkers, right, And now I go to them, I
go to all my bosses at Disney, and I tell them,
if you have anything for me to do, I will
do it because I.
Speaker 4 (46:29):
Love working for them so much. Like I just feel
like if I just did this forever, I'd be really okay.
Speaker 2 (46:35):
Yeah, amazing, that's very cool. Dreams are coming true, so
cool Disney style.
Speaker 4 (46:41):
Right, And then a little tinker Bell just flew behind
her head. I should rig that in here.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
I love you, I love you. It was so good
to catch.
Speaker 4 (46:54):
Up and all of its good to good to know you.
Speaker 3 (46:57):
Yeah, fun, money was so much of this parenting, so
many of her I find that very inspiring.
Speaker 4 (47:02):
Well, I think she said, I'm running with it just
you know.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
Oh good.
Speaker 1 (47:04):
Well, I hope I see you soon.
Speaker 4 (47:07):
Same.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
It's been so long.
Speaker 4 (47:09):
That you literally look exactly the same I do.
Speaker 1 (47:12):
Well, you really know it, you know, listen another couple
of years and you know we were all getting face left,
So to be.
Speaker 3 (47:19):
Honest, let's just go and then we'll stay in and
we'll do recovery together.
Speaker 1 (47:22):
We'll do it together. I love you, I love you, Bye.
Speaker 2 (47:28):
Babe, bye bye bye. That was great. Kay, Oh, it
was so great.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Was so great to catch up with her. I love
her so much.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
She looks Disney. I mean, she like feels everything about her,
like the hair, the pixie hair.
Speaker 1 (47:43):
She didn't even take it. I can't even take how beautiful.
It's like she's like she's like a painting. And I
used to say that all the time we were working together.
Look at her face and I get like lost in
it because her eyes are so big, and she's just
like a porcelain skin. And yeah, she's like snow white,
I know. But then then she also looks like our stepmother.
She's very much Williams and.
Speaker 2 (48:06):
I know so much. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, all right, tonight,
see you tonight, Mike,
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