August 19, 2023 • 41 mins
First time ever...Savage interviews one of the Savage fam's long-time followers. Meet Jules! As she takes us through her childhood and how she became successful and is able to help & impact so many people now.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Ooh, Savy, I like to keep it real simple.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Okay, this is the first time that I've done this,
but I had to have her on the podcast. This
is the first time I've had someone that I've met
on TikTok that has come in the lives. Well, she
can tell you how long she's been coming in and out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of the lives.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But the past week week and a half, when we
did the back to school giveaway, I met the family
that we kind of shared with you guys that we
wanted to do some things with, and Jules, who's on
the podcast today, said Wow, some of that stuff really
resonates with me. And I just knew one turn I
(00:47):
started talking that I needed to have her on the podcast.
So welcome Jules officially to the podcast. And it's up
to you, like how much you want to talk about
or any of those things, but how long you're part
of the Savage family, probably like everyone else of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Twenty twenty. I think my kids introduced me to it,
and first I think it was like basically really again,
the silly dances and you know, the fun stuffs. So
I think it started then and I was a watcher
for a long time. I still don't have any posts ups.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I really enjoy just engaging with.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, people that positive. So really for me, it's
more just fun and supportive and you know, get on
then try and support the positivity with the ones that
are trying to spread.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's awesome. So what made you finally just be super active, like, hey,
hey girl, I got a story to tell.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know, it was probably for me when I started
seeing that the lives became more frequent, so people started
going I wouldn't say in the last sixty m not
just specifically with you. I followed you from the beginning.
I mean, I've watched.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Your time, but you know, I think everybody has.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But you know, when you're when you're seeing the lights
up constantly and there are people that you follow, and
there's a message that comes on and you're, you know,
having a bad day or you know something's happening, and
you're you're just maybe you know, sitting there or getting
the dishes, you just hop on. And so once you're
hopping on, you're seeing you know, the conversations back and
forth and the hop and then you start becoming vested
(02:39):
in the individual, your home, somebody. For so long, there's
literally only a couple of people I have follow like
their lives really frequently, and yours is one of them.
So the positivity that you bring in when you said
that last week, that was what resonated with me to
reach up to you because you know, I have a
similar story, and I think that everybody you know should
(03:02):
truly see you know all that you know so you
can help. You can help. But you know, even if
it's even if it's just little things, you know, than positivity,
saying a prayer whenever people believe any hot there's no judgment.
So it's really just about, you know, being a community.
And I think the one thing that we're missing, the
day and age pain in community. Really we're missing you know,
(03:25):
everybody even though like we're in our phones with this,
I feel like we're you know right.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, it's so hard to explain to people. When I'm
like the Savage fam They're like, yeah right, I'm like, no,
you don't understand. Like we know about each other's days,
we know what people are doing, Like I check in
on people, but I haven't seen them or heard from
them in a while, Like I'm concerned, So it it
looked as like a family. It is hard for people
to understand that that maybe not be that they're not
(03:53):
like in people's live feeds or like you said, they
don't have that vested interest in someone.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, like in some of the people that are in
your life, like I've become friends through TikTok, like you know,
just their comments are like the they say, you know,
they'll help post it to me, and they're like jewels,
you know that? And then I'm like jewels that right,
And then like the whole story of like you and
Josh and like everybody's following that, right, where's that gonna
go with? Oh my gosh, everybody's reading and you know,
(04:21):
you see the car and I've been on there since
the very first timings. Wouldn't even do a back.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
On facts that is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's hilarious, But just the positivity that it brings and
hearing the stories of somebody work you that's really trying
to out when people have been in those situations, you know,
and you know, it's it's so hard to you don't
want to tell the world necessarily like your full story.
But that story with the young boy really resonated and
(04:59):
that are is what truly made me feel even earning
their connection work. It's daily with right, so and if
it's not daily, it's you know, I'm still popping our eyes.
I'm still there, like I'm still you know, maybe it's
not in our option our communication directly, but you know
those are that's where really at my heart and then
you know, of course you've connected her and I we
(05:21):
were able to speak, and you know, I think that
it's important that people realize that that's happening around you know,
the world, but specifically you know, in our backyards.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It quit me. It hit me hard because I just
in my recap, you know, the weekly recap, and I
was talking about how we yet as larger creators, like
we get all of these dms about help, help, help,
which I don't have any issues with that, but there
are times where it just literally mentally brings you down
right because you're like, I want to help this person.
(05:52):
I want to help that person. And then it also
puts you in a tail spin of okay, is this real?
Is this not real? How do you bet this person?
How do you not at this person? So it's it's
a weird place to be in to say that person
could be lying to me or I know for a
fact that person is lying. Like I would never go
and be like, well, I'm let to go scam someone
(06:12):
because that's what I'm gonna do today. Like it's just
not even in my thought process, But it sucks because
that's what that's what we have to do as creators
that keep getting stuff like kind of pushed on them.
You know, when I get the request for fifty dollars
for diapers or you know, for whatever, I'm like, do
these people even have children? Like it's just it's a
(06:33):
weird spot.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
To be in.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But getting getting dms and knowing like when I got
this DM, it was it was different. I'm in tears,
I've got goose bumps. I'm like I don't care what
I have to do. I have to help this family.
I have to help this family. So it was just
a whole different feeling of that and the fact that
(06:57):
it was like, look, I can give you as much
proof as you want. So those types of people, I'm like, okay,
I would call their bluff, you know what I mean,
Like here, I can show you proof, and if there's
no proof, okay, that's easier. If I'm like all right
whatever on this one, Like I wouldn't say anything to
her until I had facetimed her. I didn't say, hey,
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I'm I'm helping. I'm not helping. I didn't say anything.
I'd just say, hey, I'd like to get on a
face time you'll call with you. And we were trying
to do it through Instagram, so I don't like giving
my number out, And eventually I was like, I'm gonna
have to bite the bullet and just call you. She's like,
I promise I will never ever call you. I promise whatever,
And I called from someone else's phone. But I wanted
to be able, knowing that there was going to be
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a large amount, and knowing that I wanted to do
a video with a savage fail, I'm like, I have
to I have to actually like see and talk to
this person and not just go based on like dms
and stuff. So the more I learned about that as
a recap, if someone's not familiar, that's listening right now.
I got a I received a DM that said there
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is a boy, a teenage boy who had been basically
living on the streets with his mother, and his mother
happened to be doing certain things in front of him
that I don't think any child should ever see. And
that just that shook me when I'm like, oh my goodness,
like this is out there. I guess I did it
(08:25):
realized the extent that it could go because as a mom,
I'm like, well, I could never do that to my kiddo.
So I guess I never really put it into This
is a huge problem. This is this goes on way
more than anyone knows. Right, it gets hidden, and you know,
(08:46):
kids fall through the system of well they're truant. Well
why are they truent? Well because mom and dad or
mom or dad or whoever is out doing X, Y
and Z. I did not know that was a problem.
And then when you talked about it, I'm like, okay,
we need to have this discussion. So if you want
to share.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
This tool up to you, yeah, we think about way out.
So like this, so many parents will put it this
you know, responsibility on the school and when they're trying,
you know, they get these letters and I forbid they
sent us letter to you know, an address that was
on file or somebody's friends address that they put just
to go to that school, you know, through g you know,
it kind of reminds me of the whole story with
(09:30):
oh God, thinking I'm drawing a blake for her name
right now, but they had a block. It brings me
to the whole story where like, you know, she took
care of the head and she took her and hidn't
have shes at Big Mic and medians of the NFL
player What.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Is the movie blind Side?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Blindside? So it kind of reminds me of that, right
maybe you know where you see the house like where
they lived, and you know, you see that he's wearing
breaking shoes and he goes in he likes you know
this funky ar what I would call fucky you know
shirt that's strip and you know the things that are
just so grateful, and like when she shows on the
bed and he's like, that's mine, Like I've never had
(10:12):
a bed before, like all of those things. You know,
I wouldn't say that to my exten like I had
a I had a wonderful United bed, and I had
a mom that left me unconditionary. But unfortunately, some of
the things that resonate with me are you know, having
to overcome some of those things that happens when when
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drugs or alcohol or addictions are involved. And unfortunately, as
a child, you're not so you know, you don't know
how to self advocate. You all know it any different.
You don't know life is supposed to be any different, right,
And as you're continuing to grow up and you find
somebody that shows you a little different. Which is why
I think coaches are so important in teachers and you know,
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our neighbors and checking on people because they do truly
believe that, like we miss so much. We're in our
everyday lives, we're you know, we're moving around and you know,
doing this and that. And we had a kid that
hung out with our younger kids, and I had no
idea that he was living with his grandmothers. His mom,
you know, about put in prison and he had nothing,
(11:18):
and sure she is trying to survive. You know, if
that's our neighbor hiding, you know, we live in a
nicer neighbor hiding. I'm just thinking to myself, like, if
that's one kid, how many other kids are there? And
you know, my whole circle of friends. I have this
group of amazing friends from middle school actually I was
a elementary school and we've all kept in contacting and
(11:39):
now none of us live in the same state. Well,
a couple hours away. But you know, we every year
we get together and we do a girls trip, Like
last year was Vegas. I know, last year was here,
the year before was Vegas, and so we try and
go somewhere every year depending on what the schedule looks like.
And all of us had this similar bringing up. I
remember one of them, you know, a big you were
(12:00):
challenging for quarters to able to get hot dogs, you know,
just at a local you know, seven eleven at the time.
And you know, I remember as drinking out of house
is I remember going to that house and stay in
the night and there's no electricity in the middle of
the summer, and we're you know one hundred and fifteen
and twenty three where you know, off Friday night, were
(12:22):
left alone and nobody comes home until Sunday. And you know,
I'm talking ten eleven years old, So you know it,
it really resonated with me for a lot of those
reasons personally and with the group of friends that I
have found and all of us have insanely like turned us.
(12:42):
I yeah, I can't even explain to you that where
we're all at today versus where we were.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So what would you say you were you know, you're
able to residate what would you say the things were
if you want to share that hit home with you
in your own childhood.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So I think the things that resonated with me and
my own childhood was seeing things that I shouldn't have
seen and not knowing that those weren't normal, and then
growing up and wondering why I didn't think those things
weren't normal, wondering why you know, for me, why that
you know, everybody else was like, oh my gosh, and
(13:23):
I'm just like what you know. Going to Vegas for
the first time was interesting because I, you know, I
foresought because some of those things were normal.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And not which things are you?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Which things are you referring to? Just normal things you
might see on a street, you know, activities that you
might see happening, you know, I hand the aron exchanges or.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So like drug exchanges.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, maybe naked girls getting there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh wow, I've never been to Vegas, so I can't
say then, I know, like what the strip.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Light needs, Like maybe my gram might be a better
idea where they flip. Okay, we'll rest with you. I'm
looking for God, your your far away. But yeah, it's
just some of the things that you know, when it's
a shell shop for people that don't know what they're
walking into go to Vegas and see and so now
it's normal because I go all the time, but you know,
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just really not seeing things that you shouldn't see. I remember,
you know, I remember there was this one, you know scenario.
And I'm not going to call out anybody, but you know,
my family member was you know, in in the house
and I was in the house, and you know, unfortunately,
I just remember hearing right the wall like getting hit
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and couldn't understand why, and somebody, you know, screaming things.
And I was worried about this person. And I was
painting on his door and and scared and you know,
not knowing what's going on, and being told to go away,
and you know that was yelling nine. Right, that's that's
not okay. You know, I I too remember it as
(15:04):
if it happened yesterday. So when you said this story
about this young man and when he had went through,
I was like, I'm down. I want to help, like
have my help, like just you know why, he needs
to get in counseling. And I highly suggest, you know, counseling.
That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I have talked to you know, when did you do counseling?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
When did you start counseling? And I in my twenties.
I'm already uh this year, and so I uh in
my twenties said I tried counseling, and I tried counseling
for the wrong reasons. I tried to fix the immediate
issue of whatever was happening in my life at that time.
(15:42):
Which if you're trying to go for to solve something,
you know, for immediate needs and they you know, in it,
and it's not helping either one you don't have the
right counselor or too you know there there's deeper problems
than what it is on the surface that you're trying
to scratch. And so I tried it two or three
times in my twenties. Maybe I would even say once
(16:02):
mic early thirties, but it wasn't only until my mid thirties,
and I was not mad, I guess younger thirties. So
about seven years ago and to this day, I would
find myself to be, you know, freed of all of
those feelings and those thoughts and loving and have great
relationships that have been rebuilt with those people, and it
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took me a long time to get there, and it
took me a lot of leather understanding and realizing that,
you know, that was not what was in their heart,
but that anything that's mine, all training, you know, beingly
that is how somebody feels or what they're going through.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So how old were you when you I don't necessarily
want to like put words your mouth, but when you
stepped away or kind of went on your own, how
old were you?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I was fifteen by fort dates, so I was on
my own. And I once stayed out of Frans Sauce
for a while, and then I had to drop out
of high school because we lost everything. We had everything everything,
so I owned nothing from the age of fifteen before,
and so I had to close on my back and
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my backpack and found there. I went and stayed with
some friends and then some relatives, and then I got
two jobs morning and night. I worked from Saturday am
until a line thirty pm Monday through Friday, and then
Saturdays I worked morning shift or morning afternoon shift, and
I had Sundays off. And I became a manager at
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the age of sixteen. I went at one of those
fake ID so back in the day. You could go
to the check cashing places and it would say this
is not a valid state I d but I, you know,
said I was a year younger on my application or
a year older on my application, and nobody questioned it.
So you just put that through with your security party.
I had two jobs and I worked. I was not
managing three hundred people at the age of sixteen, and
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so I'm there. I just you know, continue to grow
on my life. You know, I didn't want to be
I didn't want to be classified in any certain you know,
I'm not out a word that. It's just I really
didn't want to be. I didn't any category of what
my life was going to be for the rest of
my life. I wanted to make my own way. And
(18:19):
you know now I own my own business, and you know,
we a lot of things for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
We well, let's let's go back. Let's go back before
before you jump to what you're doing. Ups, I want
everybody to know what you're doing, and we'll dive into that.
But you're you're fifteen, you get a job, you say,
I'm breaking a mold. I'm not going to be put
in this bucket. This is not who I am. What
do you think attributed to you thinking that way and
flipping that switch?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Knowing that I didn't want what was currently happening to continue.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, so you're like, I'm gonna make this choice. I'm
gonna just bust my butt work work, work, and and
it just didn't look back.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It literally was. My first job was Subway and Little Caesars,
and I knew I didn't want fasted. But before I
left that job, I got another job, and you know,
I just realized that there was a different way. There
was another way. No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So you're sixteen, you're out on your own, you're doing
your thing. To early twenties happened, Which good on you
for even thinking about counseling that young, because when you're
in your early twenties, you're still, you know, figuring things
out altogether. So the fact it didn't work, that's okay.
The fact you even thought about it, I think is amazing.
So you work sixteen through? How old? How old did
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you start? How old were you when you got married?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was thirty four when I got married. Okay, so
you were just.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Grinding, grinding, grinding until you got married. You own how
many companies them.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got married at twenty five and that did not
work out for Guetnam and that so we are a
blended family. And then I am like my current husband,
who I love to death, and yes, we we have
to retail locations and I'll also location through branding. But
that is what allows us to help so much because
we send clothing to you know, different companies, different organizations, donations.
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You know, we're able to help in any way. Which
is where the backpacks thing came in from the school thing. Originally,
all right, I'd ordered these backpacks for some back to
school for kids and you know, their Nike backpacks, and
I have a sitting here.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm like, but I need to go to bed boons
and they'll.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Be used, I'm sure, but you know I have some
of them live and I'm like, I could just send
those to you, you know, and you can send them
out to whoever you want. I don't need the name
on it, just send them. You need to put them
into packages, and that was something we had talked about. So,
you know, we just try and help wherever we can
because I know how hard it was is growing up,
you know, using the same backpack you know, two or
three years in a row, or you know when you're older.
(21:07):
You know, when I was on my own, gosh, pinching
every penny. When you have two jobs and you're making
minimum wage, you know you have to pay. I was
living in one of those monthly sweets places that you know,
the living rings of the same ring as the kitchen,
that's what, the same ring as the bathroom. That's it
was sicker. But I need to I go that, you.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Know, and did you have to cut your family off
at all? I mean here you are, working, working, working,
Did your family come back and ask for any help
at any point in time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So there. I wouldn't the word cut off I don't
like to use. I would say I put strong boundaries. Okay,
never never have a cut off. And I think that
that's important for everybody to know as well, because it's
not really them and those in these scenarios. It's not
THEMB it's it's not you know, it's not me, it's
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not you in those scenarios your mind altar. So it's
not it's not. Yeah, there's a choice that that person
hasn't made, but in resilt not who they are. It's
not necessarily their heart. So cut off is you know,
is a really strong word. But yes, definitely strong boundaries
years of not talking to you and or seeing but
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but they're whenever needed. And there was you know, as
we discussed our last call, I think it was that,
you know, I had to make some really strong boundaries,
especially when I had kids. When I had kids like I,
you know, it was no longer me, so I had
of course, I had my you know, okay, I can
see what's going on, but I wasn't going to allow my
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kids around any of that, you know, And so they
they these people had to reroduce themselves into my life
in a healthy manner, and for some time they did,
and you know, things went back and forth, and so
you know, life changes and you know, things happen. And
I'm happy to say that you know, here I am
host and including the whip, my counselor, who I would
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not change the world, has been the best fit ever,
you know, seven years later, and I was able to
create great relationships. And that's partially from seeing things from
their point of view during that time frame, you know,
not really that's another thing, putting the glasses on through
somebody else's eyes to see what people do is huge.
(23:26):
Like your beliefs might not be my beliefs, but that
doesn't make your beliefs wrong. You know, your your thoughts,
how you were brought up is as strong indication of
who you are. That doesn't mean I was brought up
the same way. That doesn't mean that I believe that.
You know, So putting the glasses on through somebody else's eyes,
somebody that might be more direct my colaus is airing
(23:47):
it or rude or me where somebody that is out
going and yellow and sunshine, like I would say you
would I the fact that another great tie real. Some
people find that I know me, it's coming people by
that like overbearing and you know. But then sometimes you
know when somebody talks to me and they say something there,
you know, to the point and like straight toy, like
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ooh well okay, late, you're right, sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well and yeah, sometimes you don't know because there's it
was funny Josh s Euiers. I was that He's like,
well sometimes you're delivery. I'm like, okay, I have and
I listed off like thirty things that I had going out,
like no exaggeration, and I said, sometimes when I just
have to quickly tell you something. I don't have time
to put baby bumpers around it. He's like, that's not
what I'm asking. I'm like, I'm just telling you I
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don't necessarily have that in my head. I'm like thirty
thousand miles an hour naving everything off. So I think
you are right when you can kind of take a
step back, or good communication is in that mix, right,
Like whether it's a work relationship or whatever, when there's
good communication in there and and someone can read cues, right,
(24:53):
Like if someone comes to you it was super direct
and it was like super harsh. If you're paying attention
and you see them recoil, then you realize, okay, And
that was probably all a little too. I've that was
a little nice, But yeah, you're right being able to
see it from a different perspective, and that's what makes
each one of us unique. So I do have this question.
(25:13):
Your family members have you I'm sure that you have,
but have you talked to them about going into counseling
and have they done counseling?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yes? And now okay, so bang yes and some know,
but never together, it's never been together. We kind of
came to terms with life is too short, and it
went on for so long that unfortunately, you know, I
didn't want to waste any more time. Now that that
(25:46):
relationship was healthy, that those people were healthy, you know, uh,
they did the work that they needed to do to
get where they're at. And you know, God forbid that
you ever go back to that path. Then that's a
different discussion. But time, it's been years, and you know,
if I continue to dwell on that that I might
not get you know, more time. So I had to
(26:10):
make the decision that you know, sorry was it's sorry,
it was heartfelt. The love would never change. The love
was always there, just didn't know how to show it
in those kinds of needs. And you know, that's that's huge.
That's huge to be able to recognize that, you know
that that person wasn't that person during that time frame.
(26:33):
And it's happened to me even in my adulthood. You know,
I had a person that I trusted as a parent
figure that was great through all of my life and
it was an amazing role model or you know figure.
And you know, some things happened in my young thirties
(26:56):
and it was due to drugs and this was never
a drug user. I've never in my life tried a drug.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's like a pre pregnancy scare, like somebody gets pregnant
super young, and you're like, oh, not done that. I've
never heard. Yeah, I've never got too scared, Like it's
a scare and big right right right that I've never
I'm forty it, I'm I can honestly hand the God.
I've never never tried to truck.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No save, But that's hard to say, and I think
a lot of it like what you obviously stall when
you were younger, a lot of things you shouldn't have seen.
I saw some things when I was younger that I
didn't like either, and that has led me. I've never
been drunk in my life, and people like there's no way,
there's no way, there's no way, Like I've never been drunk.
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I had a neighbor at thirteen years old that skipped
school and was drinking and literally got shot and killed.
And I was maybe nine at that time. I'm not
going to ever forget that. And I just remember thinking this,
I equated alcohol equaled that. So the longest how I
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was like no, and then I would watch my friend's
drink and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're morons. Like
they cannot hold their liquor, you know, I mean they're teenagers.
What I'm so, I'm like, I can they can't do that.
Then I had other friends passed away from drinking and driving.
So it just was something that when I saw that stuff,
I kept you slipping in and I was like, I'm
I just don't really care. I don't want any part
of that. I don't care what other people do, but myself,
(28:28):
I'm like, this is not what I want to do.
This is what I learned, and that's totally fine. So
I would imagine that's probably the same for you, seeing
the drug usage and seeing how it changed people, and
seeing how it affected your family and your relationship and
just how they function. I'm sure you wanted no part
of it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, absolutely, and just seeing like the crowd it brought
around and the sayings that happened. And you know, as
time goes on, I feel, you know, more and more comfortable, Tory.
You know some of these things. Obviously, my inners, family
and friends, you know, they they have been there through
all life, right, so they know. But you know, as
I get older, I find that it's a little easier
(29:08):
to share some of these things, you know, the when
I was younger that I had to go through, so
that they realized that even as an adult, this this
other person that was you know, trust forth the united
family that ended up going down their own path, you know,
and that was a figure through those times that I
went through with that other person was somebody to lean on.
(29:30):
And then they got hit by you know, the addiction,
and you know, hearing all that and seeing all that
unfold in front of me, and this person did you know,
time for their for their crimes and just just watching
their life unravel from an amazing line, an amazing situation,
and unraveled in in their forties and I was in
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my young thirties and I guess they were in the
mid forties to late forties. And so just seeing that,
you know, just like whoa we can have at any time.
It doesn't necessarily react to I mean, are poor us?
But that really can happen at any time. And it
takes one time to get addicted, you know, it takes
one time to to to go down the wrong path.
(30:14):
And that's unfortunate. And people in this day and age
like the mental I don't think we talk about it
at us right in society, and I'll think that that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think people blow it off, like you know, everybody
talks about like the.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Millennials and the Genets and the gen z and the
you know, baby boomers, and you know, the baby boomers
were all about you know, the I don't know if
I could say about the sixty and are the four.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You can say whatever you want on here, it's not TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think I had so yeah, not knowing any of that, right,
so just whatever, you know, our parents and then they
all indulged in trying, you know, different things in the
you know, seventies and eighties. You know, you saw the
big span of things try then and then you saw
things you know, elevate and their it just continued and
continued and continued, and everybody kind of had their way.
(31:12):
And my opinion, again, these are all just things that
I've seen or you know, things I've witnessed. I should
should say, yeah, just my thoughts, but you know, you
think about what they went through in my life and
how they handled it well. How they handled it is
part of the reason why we don't talk about why
Night Got Out is such an issue now because they
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they had those mental health that didn't didn't just all
of a sudden appear. Those mental health issues have been
in there all a lot, but people, you know, manifested
in different ways and then they they hoped with it
in different ways.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well it's scary now, I mean, think about it. I
lived that life of being on public display, right, and
the good piece when it comes to my relationship or
my family, I pick and choose what I put out
there because of the privacy. Like, I want some privacy.
I want some of that anonymity, you know, just to
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have a quote unquote a little piece of normalcy. But
think about these think about these kids. I think about
my son. I'm like, I don't want to get him
a phone. And someone was making a comment to me
the other day about I just let my son get
on Snapchat and I was like, oh, and my face
(32:29):
does not hide, right, Like, it does not hide how
I feel at all a hundred percent. So I was like, oh,
They're like, why is that bad. I'm like, you want
the truth, and you know, I was like, you don't
really know me, so I'm a truth teller. And they're like, yeah,
I said no, I would never let my kid have that. Well,
I shouldn't say never, right like when he's older, what
night whatever? Right now, that would not be an app
(32:52):
I would get because people are thinking, oh if I snap, Okay,
let me say this. If Mike It is wanting that
app because he thinks he is safe for sending pictures
that no one else will ever see. That's a huge
problem because there's too many ways, too many ways that
what you do and what you say is going to
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either get twisted or whatever supposed to be done in
private is going to come to light. So this is
the world that our kids live in is we are
pretty much asking these kids to be damn near perfect.
You gotta be perfect because if you step out of line,
if you make a mistake, if you send one bad text,
if you send one bad picture. Now I'm not excusing that.
(33:35):
I'm not saying, oh my goodness, like I'm not saying
if it is something horrendous, it is, if it is
something like that, I'm not trying to excuse any of
that behavior whatsoever. What I'm saying, though, is, let's say
someone makes a comment to someone and it's just kind
of in fun or what have you, and it's lighthearted
and someone twists it and turns it and whatever else,
(33:57):
that's the difference. Or if they do make a mistake
and you know, say they call someone an asshole, like
let's say, well my teacher was an asshole today, and
then I give it back to the teacher and then
you know, it's those things that we're asking our kids
to be perfect and not have any room for air.
That's scary mental health wise, that is scary for these kids.
That's what really gets me when it comes to social media,
(34:17):
when it comes to all the filters or sorry, all
the apps, I should say filters, but filters are along
with it, right, anyone can kind of change pictures and
change things. So it's a it's a very interesting world.
And I'm thankful that I'm on the social media side
because I understand it a smidge more now than one,
(34:38):
you know before COVID, so I can kind of help
my son a little bit. But it's mental health is real.
I'm super thankful for the counselor that I see, and
like you said, you found one that's a really good
fit for you. I think that's super key too, and
I plan to keep going.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
To your point for that. Like I think I don't
want to say keeping a kid in a bubble, not
you specifically a person keeping their children. I have children,
did you have one? Really? You know how it kids?
I have? Oh, I you know, keeping them in a
bubble as much as you can answerdas, but then you
(35:18):
communicating with them, you telling right. I think that that's
something that our parent, at least in my generation, a
lot of our parents didn't tell us right. It kind
of skipped over. And so my kids like, it's not
an age limit thing with me. All of my kids
will tell you nothing is an each limit. I don't
set an age limit. I don't say okay, by the
time you're thirteen, okay, by the time you were sixteen, Okay,
(35:39):
by the time you're nine. I don't say those things.
I say, when you are responsible enough, when you can
show me X Y and Z, when you can you know,
do this. So in my household, how I run things
is it's not necessarily you know, one thirteen year old
might be way different than the next thirteen year old,
and you know that it's so important to communicate, and
(36:01):
they are hearing it. They regardless of social media or
having a phone or watching YouTube or you know, it's
around them, as much as we want to keep them
secure and say it's around them, it's lit. And so
communicating with our kids and telling them, you know, this
is this is the reality of what we live in
and this is what you're going to see. And just
because you see it, it's not monkey see, monkey do.
(36:23):
And how you said I like the baby bumper. I
use you know, I don't candy up things. You know
I'm going to see an extra layer over it. I
don't candy cut it. You know, what you see is
what you get. I've done those personality tests. Work kind
of shows you. You know where you're at at work,
where you appens friends, where you are in your personal life,
and all of mine are within the same exact dop
like career. See is what you get. And so I
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am more of an emotional being. I will say that
like I have to. I've worked on that for years
and not care so much. And you and I've talked
about that too, right, like we just we do care
so deep. But having boundaries around your carrying a.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Very important well, yes, we had that conversation, especially around
the giving and things like that. That definitely it seeks
you a little bit because you have a big heart,
you want to do you want to do things, but
you also have to set up those boundaries. Okay, I've
been burnt. I see this, I can see this now.
(37:23):
Time to put the stop signing up, or time to
say okay, we're gonna pause until I feel better about
this situation or or not. So having the platform that
I have, I want to make sure if I am
leading people and saying, hey, this family or this person
or this group or whatever it might be, I've done
a little due diligence beforehand, the best that I possibly can.
(37:47):
I don't want to see anyone down the wrong path.
And it's honestly why I've never come straight out and
said I want to help one individual or this specific
family right here, we have to all come together and
do X, Y or Z. Just because that's a lot.
That's a lot to ask the Savage fam right, That's
that's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So you said that because I was on for that
that real time moment and when you were telling a story,
and I think I was one of the first ones
I was like I have never seen like not only
was iballing, but a lot of your like we were
all balling in.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That video and then or in out live, and then
on top of that, you know, just Top.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Eight to some of your mutual followers, and you know,
just telling that story, Oh mush, everybody wanted to help.
I think a lot of it not just batty, but
I think you know your instincts, you know your ends
like a big But I'm.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Very careful too, because as much as I want to
help someone else, I want to protect my savage family.
I don't want to you know, I would feel horrible. Hey,
we're gonna go help, We're gonna go do this, and
then it turn out, you know, it turn out wrong,
or it turn out bad or or what have you.
So that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Down Las Vegas Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I'm just like, you know, I gotta be really really careful. Well, listen,
thank you very much for coming on and having the conversation,
because it's not every day that you meet someone that
has that same background and that can understand, and it's
not every day that you meet someone that has the
background and they're willing to come on and say, hey,
(39:19):
you know, at fifteen, I had the clothes and the
backpack on my back, and I went and I worked
my ass off to get to where I am and
decided I'm not going to take that same path. I'm
going to break the cycle. And I've said this before.
I've had friends that their parents were abused and they
started down that same path, and I'm like, you know what,
(39:40):
when you have daughters, what are you going to do?
Are you going to continue down this and hope they
don't continue to know that same path or are you
going to break the cycle now so then they don't
have to worry about breaking a cycle too. So I
want to commend you for having just the courage at
fifteen to be able to say I'm going to go
do the on my own and bust your tail to
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get to where you are. So thank you for telling
us your story. And like I said, I'm proud of
you for not giving up and being who you are
like it. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Most piece. And then obviously I know podcasts we got
to go, but I will leave. The one last thing
is you can always be better than you were the
day before. And so that might mean the smallest thing,
it could absolutely nothing changes in an instance, but tiny
baby steps. The reason why we're babies and we're either
(40:36):
breastfed or Bottle said, before we get FID, before we crawl,
then we start to walk, and then we get All
of that happens for a reason. And that's the same
thing that I can attribute to how you change a
cycle right. It doesn't happen overnight. It's baby steps, and
it's knowing that you can always be better. I don't
care how great your upbringing was. I don't care how
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bad your upbringing was. You can stop the cycle right
now and stop it and you can say tomorrow I'm
going to do this to make a change, and the
next day I'm going to do this. And you know
you can fall backwards and still go forwards, and so
I will. Just that has been tremendous in my life
is setting goals and goals setter. I'm a goal getter,
and I truly believe that you can be better if
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you never use who you were or what you did
as an excuse, because you can.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I love that so much. Thank you again for coming on.
I loved having you. I absolutely loved having you, and
thank you for being such a big part of the
Savage family. Sounds good. And on that note, you guys,
we're out
Ooh, Savy, I like to keep it real simple.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Okay, this is the first time that I've done this,
but I had to have her on the podcast. This
is the first time I've had someone that I've met
on TikTok that has come in the lives. Well, she
can tell you how long she's been coming in and out.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
Of the lives.
Speaker 2 (00:26):
But the past week week and a half, when we
did the back to school giveaway, I met the family
that we kind of shared with you guys that we
wanted to do some things with, and Jules, who's on
the podcast today, said Wow, some of that stuff really
resonates with me. And I just knew one turn I
(00:47):
started talking that I needed to have her on the podcast.
So welcome Jules officially to the podcast. And it's up
to you, like how much you want to talk about
or any of those things, but how long you're part
of the Savage family, probably like everyone else of it.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Twenty twenty. I think my kids introduced me to it,
and first I think it was like basically really again,
the silly dances and you know, the fun stuffs. So
I think it started then and I was a watcher
for a long time. I still don't have any posts ups.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I really enjoy just engaging with.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
You know, people that positive. So really for me, it's
more just fun and supportive and you know, get on
then try and support the positivity with the ones that
are trying to spread.
Speaker 2 (01:40):
That's awesome. So what made you finally just be super active, like, hey,
hey girl, I got a story to tell.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know, it was probably for me when I started
seeing that the lives became more frequent, so people started
going I wouldn't say in the last sixty m not
just specifically with you. I followed you from the beginning.
I mean, I've watched.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Your time, but you know, I think everybody has.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
But you know, when you're when you're seeing the lights
up constantly and there are people that you follow, and
there's a message that comes on and you're, you know,
having a bad day or you know something's happening, and
you're you're just maybe you know, sitting there or getting
the dishes, you just hop on. And so once you're
hopping on, you're seeing you know, the conversations back and
forth and the hop and then you start becoming vested
(02:39):
in the individual, your home, somebody. For so long, there's
literally only a couple of people I have follow like
their lives really frequently, and yours is one of them.
So the positivity that you bring in when you said
that last week, that was what resonated with me to
reach up to you because you know, I have a
similar story, and I think that everybody you know should
(03:02):
truly see you know all that you know so you
can help. You can help. But you know, even if
it's even if it's just little things, you know, than positivity,
saying a prayer whenever people believe any hot there's no judgment.
So it's really just about, you know, being a community.
And I think the one thing that we're missing, the
day and age pain in community. Really we're missing you know,
(03:25):
everybody even though like we're in our phones with this,
I feel like we're you know right.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
No, it's so hard to explain to people. When I'm
like the Savage fam They're like, yeah right, I'm like, no,
you don't understand. Like we know about each other's days,
we know what people are doing, Like I check in
on people, but I haven't seen them or heard from
them in a while, Like I'm concerned, So it it
looked as like a family. It is hard for people
to understand that that maybe not be that they're not
(03:53):
like in people's live feeds or like you said, they
don't have that vested interest in someone.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah, like in some of the people that are in
your life, like I've become friends through TikTok, like you know,
just their comments are like the they say, you know,
they'll help post it to me, and they're like jewels,
you know that? And then I'm like jewels that right,
And then like the whole story of like you and
Josh and like everybody's following that, right, where's that gonna
go with? Oh my gosh, everybody's reading and you know,
(04:21):
you see the car and I've been on there since
the very first timings. Wouldn't even do a back.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
On facts that is hilarious.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
That's hilarious, But just the positivity that it brings and
hearing the stories of somebody work you that's really trying
to out when people have been in those situations, you know,
and you know, it's it's so hard to you don't
want to tell the world necessarily like your full story.
But that story with the young boy really resonated and
(04:59):
that are is what truly made me feel even earning
their connection work. It's daily with right, so and if
it's not daily, it's you know, I'm still popping our eyes.
I'm still there, like I'm still you know, maybe it's
not in our option our communication directly, but you know
those are that's where really at my heart and then
you know, of course you've connected her and I we
(05:21):
were able to speak, and you know, I think that
it's important that people realize that that's happening around you know,
the world, but specifically you know, in our backyards.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
It quit me. It hit me hard because I just
in my recap, you know, the weekly recap, and I
was talking about how we yet as larger creators, like
we get all of these dms about help, help, help,
which I don't have any issues with that, but there
are times where it just literally mentally brings you down
right because you're like, I want to help this person.
(05:52):
I want to help that person. And then it also
puts you in a tail spin of okay, is this real?
Is this not real? How do you bet this person?
How do you not at this person? So it's it's
a weird place to be in to say that person
could be lying to me or I know for a
fact that person is lying. Like I would never go
and be like, well, I'm let to go scam someone
(06:12):
because that's what I'm gonna do today. Like it's just
not even in my thought process, But it sucks because
that's what that's what we have to do as creators
that keep getting stuff like kind of pushed on them.
You know, when I get the request for fifty dollars
for diapers or you know, for whatever, I'm like, do
these people even have children? Like it's just it's a
(06:33):
weird spot.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
To be in.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
But getting getting dms and knowing like when I got
this DM, it was it was different. I'm in tears,
I've got goose bumps. I'm like I don't care what
I have to do. I have to help this family.
I have to help this family. So it was just
a whole different feeling of that and the fact that
(06:57):
it was like, look, I can give you as much
proof as you want. So those types of people, I'm like, okay,
I would call their bluff, you know what I mean,
Like here, I can show you proof, and if there's
no proof, okay, that's easier. If I'm like all right
whatever on this one, Like I wouldn't say anything to
her until I had facetimed her. I didn't say, hey,
(07:20):
I'm I'm helping. I'm not helping. I didn't say anything.
I'd just say, hey, I'd like to get on a
face time you'll call with you. And we were trying
to do it through Instagram, so I don't like giving
my number out, And eventually I was like, I'm gonna
have to bite the bullet and just call you. She's like,
I promise I will never ever call you. I promise whatever,
And I called from someone else's phone. But I wanted
to be able, knowing that there was going to be
(07:41):
a large amount, and knowing that I wanted to do
a video with a savage fail, I'm like, I have
to I have to actually like see and talk to
this person and not just go based on like dms
and stuff. So the more I learned about that as
a recap, if someone's not familiar, that's listening right now.
I got a I received a DM that said there
(08:03):
is a boy, a teenage boy who had been basically
living on the streets with his mother, and his mother
happened to be doing certain things in front of him
that I don't think any child should ever see. And
that just that shook me when I'm like, oh my goodness,
like this is out there. I guess I did it
(08:25):
realized the extent that it could go because as a mom,
I'm like, well, I could never do that to my kiddo.
So I guess I never really put it into This
is a huge problem. This is this goes on way
more than anyone knows. Right, it gets hidden, and you know,
(08:46):
kids fall through the system of well they're truant. Well
why are they truent? Well because mom and dad or
mom or dad or whoever is out doing X, Y
and Z. I did not know that was a problem.
And then when you talked about it, I'm like, okay,
we need to have this discussion. So if you want
to share.
Speaker 1 (09:05):
This tool up to you, yeah, we think about way out.
So like this, so many parents will put it this
you know, responsibility on the school and when they're trying,
you know, they get these letters and I forbid they
sent us letter to you know, an address that was
on file or somebody's friends address that they put just
to go to that school, you know, through g you know,
it kind of reminds me of the whole story with
(09:30):
oh God, thinking I'm drawing a blake for her name
right now, but they had a block. It brings me
to the whole story where like, you know, she took
care of the head and she took her and hidn't
have shes at Big Mic and medians of the NFL
player What.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Is the movie blind Side?
Speaker 1 (09:49):
Blindside? So it kind of reminds me of that, right
maybe you know where you see the house like where
they lived, and you know, you see that he's wearing
breaking shoes and he goes in he likes you know
this funky ar what I would call fucky you know
shirt that's strip and you know the things that are
just so grateful, and like when she shows on the
bed and he's like, that's mine, Like I've never had
(10:12):
a bed before, like all of those things. You know,
I wouldn't say that to my exten like I had
a I had a wonderful United bed, and I had
a mom that left me unconditionary. But unfortunately, some of
the things that resonate with me are you know, having
to overcome some of those things that happens when when
(10:34):
drugs or alcohol or addictions are involved. And unfortunately, as
a child, you're not so you know, you don't know
how to self advocate. You all know it any different.
You don't know life is supposed to be any different, right,
And as you're continuing to grow up and you find
somebody that shows you a little different. Which is why
I think coaches are so important in teachers and you know,
(10:56):
our neighbors and checking on people because they do truly
believe that, like we miss so much. We're in our
everyday lives, we're you know, we're moving around and you know,
doing this and that. And we had a kid that
hung out with our younger kids, and I had no
idea that he was living with his grandmothers. His mom,
you know, about put in prison and he had nothing,
(11:18):
and sure she is trying to survive. You know, if
that's our neighbor hiding, you know, we live in a
nicer neighbor hiding. I'm just thinking to myself, like, if
that's one kid, how many other kids are there? And
you know, my whole circle of friends. I have this
group of amazing friends from middle school actually I was
a elementary school and we've all kept in contacting and
(11:39):
now none of us live in the same state. Well,
a couple hours away. But you know, we every year
we get together and we do a girls trip, Like
last year was Vegas. I know, last year was here,
the year before was Vegas, and so we try and
go somewhere every year depending on what the schedule looks like.
And all of us had this similar bringing up. I
remember one of them, you know, a big you were
(12:00):
challenging for quarters to able to get hot dogs, you know,
just at a local you know, seven eleven at the time.
And you know, I remember as drinking out of house
is I remember going to that house and stay in
the night and there's no electricity in the middle of
the summer, and we're you know one hundred and fifteen
and twenty three where you know, off Friday night, were
(12:22):
left alone and nobody comes home until Sunday. And you know,
I'm talking ten eleven years old, So you know it,
it really resonated with me for a lot of those
reasons personally and with the group of friends that I
have found and all of us have insanely like turned us.
(12:42):
I yeah, I can't even explain to you that where
we're all at today versus where we were.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
So what would you say you were you know, you're
able to residate what would you say the things were
if you want to share that hit home with you
in your own childhood.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So I think the things that resonated with me and
my own childhood was seeing things that I shouldn't have
seen and not knowing that those weren't normal, and then
growing up and wondering why I didn't think those things
weren't normal, wondering why you know, for me, why that
you know, everybody else was like, oh my gosh, and
(13:23):
I'm just like what you know. Going to Vegas for
the first time was interesting because I, you know, I
foresought because some of those things were normal.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
And not which things are you?
Speaker 1 (13:33):
Which things are you referring to? Just normal things you
might see on a street, you know, activities that you
might see happening, you know, I hand the aron exchanges or.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
So like drug exchanges.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Yeah, maybe naked girls getting there.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Oh wow, I've never been to Vegas, so I can't
say then, I know, like what the strip.
Speaker 1 (13:59):
Light needs, Like maybe my gram might be a better
idea where they flip. Okay, we'll rest with you. I'm
looking for God, your your far away. But yeah, it's
just some of the things that you know, when it's
a shell shop for people that don't know what they're
walking into go to Vegas and see and so now
it's normal because I go all the time, but you know,
(14:21):
just really not seeing things that you shouldn't see. I remember,
you know, I remember there was this one, you know scenario.
And I'm not going to call out anybody, but you know,
my family member was you know, in in the house
and I was in the house, and you know, unfortunately,
I just remember hearing right the wall like getting hit
(14:42):
and couldn't understand why, and somebody, you know, screaming things.
And I was worried about this person. And I was
painting on his door and and scared and you know,
not knowing what's going on, and being told to go away,
and you know that was yelling nine. Right, that's that's
not okay. You know, I I too remember it as
(15:04):
if it happened yesterday. So when you said this story
about this young man and when he had went through,
I was like, I'm down. I want to help, like
have my help, like just you know why, he needs
to get in counseling. And I highly suggest, you know, counseling.
That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
I have talked to you know, when did you do counseling?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
When did you start counseling? And I in my twenties.
I'm already uh this year, and so I uh in
my twenties said I tried counseling, and I tried counseling
for the wrong reasons. I tried to fix the immediate
issue of whatever was happening in my life at that time.
(15:42):
Which if you're trying to go for to solve something,
you know, for immediate needs and they you know, in it,
and it's not helping either one you don't have the
right counselor or too you know there there's deeper problems
than what it is on the surface that you're trying
to scratch. And so I tried it two or three
times in my twenties. Maybe I would even say once
(16:02):
mic early thirties, but it wasn't only until my mid thirties,
and I was not mad, I guess younger thirties. So
about seven years ago and to this day, I would
find myself to be, you know, freed of all of
those feelings and those thoughts and loving and have great
relationships that have been rebuilt with those people, and it
(16:26):
took me a long time to get there, and it
took me a lot of leather understanding and realizing that,
you know, that was not what was in their heart,
but that anything that's mine, all training, you know, beingly
that is how somebody feels or what they're going through.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
So how old were you when you I don't necessarily
want to like put words your mouth, but when you
stepped away or kind of went on your own, how
old were you?
Speaker 1 (16:52):
I was fifteen by fort dates, so I was on
my own. And I once stayed out of Frans Sauce
for a while, and then I had to drop out
of high school because we lost everything. We had everything everything,
so I owned nothing from the age of fifteen before,
and so I had to close on my back and
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my backpack and found there. I went and stayed with
some friends and then some relatives, and then I got
two jobs morning and night. I worked from Saturday am
until a line thirty pm Monday through Friday, and then
Saturdays I worked morning shift or morning afternoon shift, and
I had Sundays off. And I became a manager at
(17:36):
the age of sixteen. I went at one of those
fake ID so back in the day. You could go
to the check cashing places and it would say this
is not a valid state I d but I, you know,
said I was a year younger on my application or
a year older on my application, and nobody questioned it.
So you just put that through with your security party.
I had two jobs and I worked. I was not
managing three hundred people at the age of sixteen, and
(17:58):
so I'm there. I just you know, continue to grow
on my life. You know, I didn't want to be
I didn't want to be classified in any certain you know,
I'm not out a word that. It's just I really
didn't want to be. I didn't any category of what
my life was going to be for the rest of
my life. I wanted to make my own way. And
(18:19):
you know now I own my own business, and you know,
we a lot of things for a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
We well, let's let's go back. Let's go back before
before you jump to what you're doing. Ups, I want
everybody to know what you're doing, and we'll dive into that.
But you're you're fifteen, you get a job, you say,
I'm breaking a mold. I'm not going to be put
in this bucket. This is not who I am. What
do you think attributed to you thinking that way and
flipping that switch?
Speaker 1 (18:49):
Knowing that I didn't want what was currently happening to continue.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Okay, so you're like, I'm gonna make this choice. I'm
gonna just bust my butt work work, work, and and
it just didn't look back.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
It literally was. My first job was Subway and Little Caesars,
and I knew I didn't want fasted. But before I
left that job, I got another job, and you know,
I just realized that there was a different way. There
was another way. No, that's awesome.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
So you're sixteen, you're out on your own, you're doing
your thing. To early twenties happened, Which good on you
for even thinking about counseling that young, because when you're
in your early twenties, you're still, you know, figuring things
out altogether. So the fact it didn't work, that's okay.
The fact you even thought about it, I think is amazing.
So you work sixteen through? How old? How old did
(19:45):
you start? How old were you when you got married?
Speaker 1 (19:50):
I was thirty four when I got married. Okay, so
you were just.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Grinding, grinding, grinding until you got married. You own how
many companies them.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I got married at twenty five and that did not
work out for Guetnam and that so we are a
blended family. And then I am like my current husband,
who I love to death, and yes, we we have
to retail locations and I'll also location through branding. But
that is what allows us to help so much because
we send clothing to you know, different companies, different organizations, donations.
(20:28):
You know, we're able to help in any way. Which
is where the backpacks thing came in from the school thing. Originally,
all right, I'd ordered these backpacks for some back to
school for kids and you know, their Nike backpacks, and
I have a sitting here.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
I'm like, but I need to go to bed boons
and they'll.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
Be used, I'm sure, but you know I have some
of them live and I'm like, I could just send
those to you, you know, and you can send them
out to whoever you want. I don't need the name
on it, just send them. You need to put them
into packages, and that was something we had talked about. So,
you know, we just try and help wherever we can
because I know how hard it was is growing up,
you know, using the same backpack you know, two or
three years in a row, or you know when you're older.
(21:07):
You know, when I was on my own, gosh, pinching
every penny. When you have two jobs and you're making
minimum wage, you know you have to pay. I was
living in one of those monthly sweets places that you know,
the living rings of the same ring as the kitchen,
that's what, the same ring as the bathroom. That's it
was sicker. But I need to I go that, you.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
Know, and did you have to cut your family off
at all? I mean here you are, working, working, working,
Did your family come back and ask for any help
at any point in time? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (21:36):
So there. I wouldn't the word cut off I don't
like to use. I would say I put strong boundaries. Okay,
never never have a cut off. And I think that
that's important for everybody to know as well, because it's
not really them and those in these scenarios. It's not
THEMB it's it's not you know, it's not me, it's
(21:57):
not you in those scenarios your mind altar. So it's
not it's not. Yeah, there's a choice that that person
hasn't made, but in resilt not who they are. It's
not necessarily their heart. So cut off is you know,
is a really strong word. But yes, definitely strong boundaries
years of not talking to you and or seeing but
(22:19):
but they're whenever needed. And there was you know, as
we discussed our last call, I think it was that,
you know, I had to make some really strong boundaries,
especially when I had kids. When I had kids like I,
you know, it was no longer me, so I had
of course, I had my you know, okay, I can
see what's going on, but I wasn't going to allow my
(22:42):
kids around any of that, you know, And so they
they these people had to reroduce themselves into my life
in a healthy manner, and for some time they did,
and you know, things went back and forth, and so
you know, life changes and you know, things happen. And
I'm happy to say that you know, here I am
host and including the whip, my counselor, who I would
(23:05):
not change the world, has been the best fit ever,
you know, seven years later, and I was able to
create great relationships. And that's partially from seeing things from
their point of view during that time frame, you know,
not really that's another thing, putting the glasses on through
somebody else's eyes to see what people do is huge.
(23:26):
Like your beliefs might not be my beliefs, but that
doesn't make your beliefs wrong. You know, your your thoughts,
how you were brought up is as strong indication of
who you are. That doesn't mean I was brought up
the same way. That doesn't mean that I believe that.
You know, So putting the glasses on through somebody else's eyes,
somebody that might be more direct my colaus is airing
(23:47):
it or rude or me where somebody that is out
going and yellow and sunshine, like I would say you
would I the fact that another great tie real. Some
people find that I know me, it's coming people by
that like overbearing and you know. But then sometimes you
know when somebody talks to me and they say something there,
you know, to the point and like straight toy, like
(24:07):
ooh well okay, late, you're right, sorry.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
Well and yeah, sometimes you don't know because there's it
was funny Josh s Euiers. I was that He's like,
well sometimes you're delivery. I'm like, okay, I have and
I listed off like thirty things that I had going out,
like no exaggeration, and I said, sometimes when I just
have to quickly tell you something. I don't have time
to put baby bumpers around it. He's like, that's not
what I'm asking. I'm like, I'm just telling you I
(24:32):
don't necessarily have that in my head. I'm like thirty
thousand miles an hour naving everything off. So I think
you are right when you can kind of take a
step back, or good communication is in that mix, right,
Like whether it's a work relationship or whatever, when there's
good communication in there and and someone can read cues, right,
(24:53):
Like if someone comes to you it was super direct
and it was like super harsh. If you're paying attention
and you see them recoil, then you realize, okay, And
that was probably all a little too. I've that was
a little nice, But yeah, you're right being able to
see it from a different perspective, and that's what makes
each one of us unique. So I do have this question.
(25:13):
Your family members have you I'm sure that you have,
but have you talked to them about going into counseling
and have they done counseling?
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Yes? And now okay, so bang yes and some know,
but never together, it's never been together. We kind of
came to terms with life is too short, and it
went on for so long that unfortunately, you know, I
didn't want to waste any more time. Now that that
(25:46):
relationship was healthy, that those people were healthy, you know, uh,
they did the work that they needed to do to
get where they're at. And you know, God forbid that
you ever go back to that path. Then that's a
different discussion. But time, it's been years, and you know,
if I continue to dwell on that that I might
not get you know, more time. So I had to
(26:10):
make the decision that you know, sorry was it's sorry,
it was heartfelt. The love would never change. The love
was always there, just didn't know how to show it
in those kinds of needs. And you know, that's that's huge.
That's huge to be able to recognize that, you know
that that person wasn't that person during that time frame.
(26:33):
And it's happened to me even in my adulthood. You know,
I had a person that I trusted as a parent
figure that was great through all of my life and
it was an amazing role model or you know figure.
And you know, some things happened in my young thirties
(26:56):
and it was due to drugs and this was never
a drug user. I've never in my life tried a drug.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I won't.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
It's like a pre pregnancy scare, like somebody gets pregnant
super young, and you're like, oh, not done that. I've
never heard. Yeah, I've never got too scared, Like it's
a scare and big right right right that I've never
I'm forty it, I'm I can honestly hand the God.
I've never never tried to truck.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No save, But that's hard to say, and I think
a lot of it like what you obviously stall when
you were younger, a lot of things you shouldn't have seen.
I saw some things when I was younger that I
didn't like either, and that has led me. I've never
been drunk in my life, and people like there's no way,
there's no way, there's no way, Like I've never been drunk.
(27:46):
I had a neighbor at thirteen years old that skipped
school and was drinking and literally got shot and killed.
And I was maybe nine at that time. I'm not
going to ever forget that. And I just remember thinking this,
I equated alcohol equaled that. So the longest how I
(28:06):
was like no, and then I would watch my friend's
drink and I'm like, oh my gosh, they're morons. Like
they cannot hold their liquor, you know, I mean they're teenagers.
What I'm so, I'm like, I can they can't do that.
Then I had other friends passed away from drinking and driving.
So it just was something that when I saw that stuff,
I kept you slipping in and I was like, I'm
I just don't really care. I don't want any part
of that. I don't care what other people do, but myself,
(28:28):
I'm like, this is not what I want to do.
This is what I learned, and that's totally fine. So
I would imagine that's probably the same for you, seeing
the drug usage and seeing how it changed people, and
seeing how it affected your family and your relationship and
just how they function. I'm sure you wanted no part
of it.
Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yeah, absolutely, and just seeing like the crowd it brought
around and the sayings that happened. And you know, as
time goes on, I feel, you know, more and more comfortable, Tory.
You know some of these things. Obviously, my inners, family
and friends, you know, they they have been there through
all life, right, so they know. But you know, as
I get older, I find that it's a little easier
(29:08):
to share some of these things, you know, the when
I was younger that I had to go through, so
that they realized that even as an adult, this this
other person that was you know, trust forth the united
family that ended up going down their own path, you know,
and that was a figure through those times that I
went through with that other person was somebody to lean on.
(29:30):
And then they got hit by you know, the addiction,
and you know, hearing all that and seeing all that
unfold in front of me, and this person did you know,
time for their for their crimes and just just watching
their life unravel from an amazing line, an amazing situation,
and unraveled in in their forties and I was in
(29:52):
my young thirties and I guess they were in the
mid forties to late forties. And so just seeing that,
you know, just like whoa we can have at any time.
It doesn't necessarily react to I mean, are poor us?
But that really can happen at any time. And it
takes one time to get addicted, you know, it takes
one time to to to go down the wrong path.
(30:14):
And that's unfortunate. And people in this day and age
like the mental I don't think we talk about it
at us right in society, and I'll think that that.
Speaker 2 (30:23):
I think people blow it off, like you know, everybody
talks about like the.
Speaker 1 (30:27):
Millennials and the Genets and the gen z and the
you know, baby boomers, and you know, the baby boomers
were all about you know, the I don't know if
I could say about the sixty and are the four.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
You can say whatever you want on here, it's not TikTok.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
I think I had so yeah, not knowing any of that, right,
so just whatever, you know, our parents and then they
all indulged in trying, you know, different things in the
you know, seventies and eighties. You know, you saw the
big span of things try then and then you saw
things you know, elevate and their it just continued and
continued and continued, and everybody kind of had their way.
(31:12):
And my opinion, again, these are all just things that
I've seen or you know, things I've witnessed. I should
should say, yeah, just my thoughts, but you know, you
think about what they went through in my life and
how they handled it well. How they handled it is
part of the reason why we don't talk about why
Night Got Out is such an issue now because they
(31:33):
they had those mental health that didn't didn't just all
of a sudden appear. Those mental health issues have been
in there all a lot, but people, you know, manifested
in different ways and then they they hoped with it
in different ways.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
Well it's scary now, I mean, think about it. I
lived that life of being on public display, right, and
the good piece when it comes to my relationship or
my family, I pick and choose what I put out
there because of the privacy. Like, I want some privacy.
I want some of that anonymity, you know, just to
(32:08):
have a quote unquote a little piece of normalcy. But
think about these think about these kids. I think about
my son. I'm like, I don't want to get him
a phone. And someone was making a comment to me
the other day about I just let my son get
on Snapchat and I was like, oh, and my face
(32:29):
does not hide, right, Like, it does not hide how
I feel at all a hundred percent. So I was like, oh,
They're like, why is that bad. I'm like, you want
the truth, and you know, I was like, you don't
really know me, so I'm a truth teller. And they're like, yeah,
I said no, I would never let my kid have that. Well,
I shouldn't say never, right like when he's older, what
night whatever? Right now, that would not be an app
(32:52):
I would get because people are thinking, oh if I snap, Okay,
let me say this. If Mike It is wanting that
app because he thinks he is safe for sending pictures
that no one else will ever see. That's a huge
problem because there's too many ways, too many ways that
what you do and what you say is going to
(33:13):
either get twisted or whatever supposed to be done in
private is going to come to light. So this is
the world that our kids live in is we are
pretty much asking these kids to be damn near perfect.
You gotta be perfect because if you step out of line,
if you make a mistake, if you send one bad text,
if you send one bad picture. Now I'm not excusing that.
(33:35):
I'm not saying, oh my goodness, like I'm not saying
if it is something horrendous, it is, if it is
something like that, I'm not trying to excuse any of
that behavior whatsoever. What I'm saying, though, is, let's say
someone makes a comment to someone and it's just kind
of in fun or what have you, and it's lighthearted
and someone twists it and turns it and whatever else,
(33:57):
that's the difference. Or if they do make a mistake
and you know, say they call someone an asshole, like
let's say, well my teacher was an asshole today, and
then I give it back to the teacher and then
you know, it's those things that we're asking our kids
to be perfect and not have any room for air.
That's scary mental health wise, that is scary for these kids.
That's what really gets me when it comes to social media,
(34:17):
when it comes to all the filters or sorry, all
the apps, I should say filters, but filters are along
with it, right, anyone can kind of change pictures and
change things. So it's a it's a very interesting world.
And I'm thankful that I'm on the social media side
because I understand it a smidge more now than one,
(34:38):
you know before COVID, so I can kind of help
my son a little bit. But it's mental health is real.
I'm super thankful for the counselor that I see, and
like you said, you found one that's a really good
fit for you. I think that's super key too, and
I plan to keep going.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
To your point for that. Like I think I don't
want to say keeping a kid in a bubble, not
you specifically a person keeping their children. I have children,
did you have one? Really? You know how it kids?
I have? Oh, I you know, keeping them in a
bubble as much as you can answerdas, but then you
(35:18):
communicating with them, you telling right. I think that that's
something that our parent, at least in my generation, a
lot of our parents didn't tell us right. It kind
of skipped over. And so my kids like, it's not
an age limit thing with me. All of my kids
will tell you nothing is an each limit. I don't
set an age limit. I don't say okay, by the
time you're thirteen, okay, by the time you were sixteen, Okay,
(35:39):
by the time you're nine. I don't say those things.
I say, when you are responsible enough, when you can
show me X Y and Z, when you can you know,
do this. So in my household, how I run things
is it's not necessarily you know, one thirteen year old
might be way different than the next thirteen year old,
and you know that it's so important to communicate, and
(36:01):
they are hearing it. They regardless of social media or
having a phone or watching YouTube or you know, it's
around them, as much as we want to keep them
secure and say it's around them, it's lit. And so
communicating with our kids and telling them, you know, this
is this is the reality of what we live in
and this is what you're going to see. And just
because you see it, it's not monkey see, monkey do.
(36:23):
And how you said I like the baby bumper. I
use you know, I don't candy up things. You know
I'm going to see an extra layer over it. I
don't candy cut it. You know, what you see is
what you get. I've done those personality tests. Work kind
of shows you. You know where you're at at work,
where you appens friends, where you are in your personal life,
and all of mine are within the same exact dop
like career. See is what you get. And so I
(36:48):
am more of an emotional being. I will say that
like I have to. I've worked on that for years
and not care so much. And you and I've talked
about that too, right, like we just we do care
so deep. But having boundaries around your carrying a.
Speaker 2 (37:03):
Very important well, yes, we had that conversation, especially around
the giving and things like that. That definitely it seeks
you a little bit because you have a big heart,
you want to do you want to do things, but
you also have to set up those boundaries. Okay, I've
been burnt. I see this, I can see this now.
(37:23):
Time to put the stop signing up, or time to
say okay, we're gonna pause until I feel better about
this situation or or not. So having the platform that
I have, I want to make sure if I am
leading people and saying, hey, this family or this person
or this group or whatever it might be, I've done
a little due diligence beforehand, the best that I possibly can.
(37:47):
I don't want to see anyone down the wrong path.
And it's honestly why I've never come straight out and
said I want to help one individual or this specific
family right here, we have to all come together and
do X, Y or Z. Just because that's a lot.
That's a lot to ask the Savage fam right, That's
that's just a lot.
Speaker 1 (38:07):
So you said that because I was on for that
that real time moment and when you were telling a story,
and I think I was one of the first ones
I was like I have never seen like not only
was iballing, but a lot of your like we were
all balling in.
Speaker 2 (38:21):
That video and then or in out live, and then
on top of that, you know, just Top.
Speaker 1 (38:25):
Eight to some of your mutual followers, and you know,
just telling that story, Oh mush, everybody wanted to help.
I think a lot of it not just batty, but
I think you know your instincts, you know your ends
like a big But I'm.
Speaker 2 (38:38):
Very careful too, because as much as I want to
help someone else, I want to protect my savage family.
I don't want to you know, I would feel horrible. Hey,
we're gonna go help, We're gonna go do this, and
then it turn out, you know, it turn out wrong,
or it turn out bad or or what have you.
So that's definitely.
Speaker 1 (38:55):
Down Las Vegas Boulevard.
Speaker 2 (38:58):
I'm just like, you know, I gotta be really really careful. Well, listen,
thank you very much for coming on and having the conversation,
because it's not every day that you meet someone that
has that same background and that can understand, and it's
not every day that you meet someone that has the
background and they're willing to come on and say, hey,
(39:19):
you know, at fifteen, I had the clothes and the
backpack on my back, and I went and I worked
my ass off to get to where I am and
decided I'm not going to take that same path. I'm
going to break the cycle. And I've said this before.
I've had friends that their parents were abused and they
started down that same path, and I'm like, you know what,
(39:40):
when you have daughters, what are you going to do?
Are you going to continue down this and hope they
don't continue to know that same path or are you
going to break the cycle now so then they don't
have to worry about breaking a cycle too. So I
want to commend you for having just the courage at
fifteen to be able to say I'm going to go
do the on my own and bust your tail to
(40:02):
get to where you are. So thank you for telling
us your story. And like I said, I'm proud of
you for not giving up and being who you are
like it. It's amazing.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
Most piece. And then obviously I know podcasts we got
to go, but I will leave. The one last thing
is you can always be better than you were the
day before. And so that might mean the smallest thing,
it could absolutely nothing changes in an instance, but tiny
baby steps. The reason why we're babies and we're either
(40:36):
breastfed or Bottle said, before we get FID, before we crawl,
then we start to walk, and then we get All
of that happens for a reason. And that's the same
thing that I can attribute to how you change a
cycle right. It doesn't happen overnight. It's baby steps, and
it's knowing that you can always be better. I don't
care how great your upbringing was. I don't care how
(40:56):
bad your upbringing was. You can stop the cycle right
now and stop it and you can say tomorrow I'm
going to do this to make a change, and the
next day I'm going to do this. And you know
you can fall backwards and still go forwards, and so
I will. Just that has been tremendous in my life
is setting goals and goals setter. I'm a goal getter,
and I truly believe that you can be better if
(41:18):
you never use who you were or what you did
as an excuse, because you can.
Speaker 2 (41:24):
I love that so much. Thank you again for coming on.
I loved having you. I absolutely loved having you, and
thank you for being such a big part of the
Savage family. Sounds good. And on that note, you guys,
we're out
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