March 7, 2023 • 49 mins
Let's talk about sexy, baby! Sex/Life with writer and producer Stacy Rukeyser. This episode dives into the Netflix hit and what a woman desires. Join Savage as she hangs with Stacy and learns how a writer thinks and produces hits.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh seven. I like to keep it real simple. It's Wednesday.
We know what time it is. Simply savage. Oh my goodness.
This week I'm in all of everything that she has done.
This week we have Stacy ru Kaiser with us. I'm
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gonna let you tell everybody some of the things that
you have worked on. There's a spicy one we're going
to really get into. Stacy. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, thank you,
thank you so much. Yeah. So sex Life on Netflix.
It's a show that I created and and that I
run now and we just started our second season. Our
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second season just launched. I've been a TV writer for
over twenty years, and I worked my way up the ladder.
I started on a show called Without a Trace that
everyone including you, is too young to know about. Wait,
I'm surprise ye with my age, I might know that one. Um. Yeah,
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I came on up and I worked on some YA shows.
I worked on One Tree Hill and The Lion Game
and UM and the TV version of Crash and and
then I was working on Unreal, which was sort of
my second favorite show, second to sex Life, which started
on Lifetime is and then went to Hulu and it's
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on Hulu. Um, and then sex Life is the first
show that I created myself as well as running it.
So it's my baby that looks and feels and smells
exactly the way that I wanted to. So how long
have you been out there? How long have you been
writing producing? When did you start? Yeah? Long time? So
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I M I mean, I guess you can find my
age on the internet, so it's not a secret. I
don't know why people hide it. People like what's your age? Oh?
I shouldn't escalated. I'm like, you know what at this
point everywhere? So yeah, yeah, yeah. So, as I said,
I've been working as a TV writer for for just
over twenty years. And then there were four years before
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that when I was trying to be a writer and
was trying to sell stuff and trying to get jobs,
and I wasn't getting jobs, and and I was tutoring
kids to make money and I was way interesting to
make money. And then before that I had a former
life as an actress. Um uh. First in New York City.
I went to sort of two years of drama school
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after college, and then I did a lot of really
great theater that really does not pay any money. It's
very hard to be a theater actor in New York.
And so then I came out to LA and I
was doing, you know, some small things. But it was
an agent of mine, an acting agent of mine, who said,
have you ever thought about writing anything? And um, and
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I did have this idea for it was for a
film at that time, and he was he was great.
He gave me great license. He was like, write it,
Just write it, even if it's shitty, just write it.
And then he was like a total agent because he
was like, you take two weeks and write it. And
it did not just take two weeks, but the experience
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that I had writing that was really personally transformative, and
I felt like I was like snapping back into who
I really was as a person. And you know, when
I'd come out to LA and was trying to be
an actress, like my hair was getting highlighted and I
became like blonder and blonder and blonder, until the point
where people would be like talking about, oh, the blonde,
and I was like, who are they talking about? And
they're like, oh, they're talking about you. And so the
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same week that I finished writing that script, and I
had had this whole like realization of this is what
I should be doing in my life. I dyed my
hair back to brown. It was like I was snapping
back into who I really was. That's a trend right
now over on TikTok. I'm sure it's on every platform.
But it's like, this is me, and this is me
one year into LA or one you're into Florida, and
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it's like a whole bunny and they all look the
same at the end. Oh my god, that's so funny,
and it's it's insidians because you don't really it's happening.
You're like, I just have highlights, you know, And then
suddenly you're like, no, you're Marilynd fucking Monroe now, you know,
So I shouldn't move to LA. Is what your nose?
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I mean? Some people love that, you know what I mean?
And also, ps, my mom went totally blonde when she
you know, started getting more and more gray, and she
looks fantastic now she's like a bomb show with the blonde.
So that day is coming. That's how my mom. Yes,
my mom's the same way. I'm like, you had brown hair,
but she is blonde now because of you know the guys.
She's totally and I'm like that just works for you
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and I don't even remember. Yeah, oh that's good. I'm
loading onto my red as long as I can. Yes, yes,
a lot as I can't do it. Thank you. So
do you feel that being an actress that really helped
too when it came to the writing side of things,
like you can understand, I do feel that it really
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helped me. Yeah. I mean, first of all, when I'm writing,
I say everything out loud, so I'm sort of like
acting it out and you know, by my computer. And
in fact, I was at my kids chess tournament just
to be totally nerdy on Sunday and I was like sitting,
you know with the other moms, like we wait for
kids to come back out from there from their thing,
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and I was like, you know, trying to work on something,
and I realize, oh my god, it's been my thing
that's out loud with the other moms like radio it was.
I was like, oh my god, you probably had like
a whole audience right around like what note taking um.
But I do feel like I understand sort of the
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moments and and and what an actor can bring to
a piece, you know, which is so much and so
what you don't have to put in the writing and
what can sort of live underneath the dialogue just from
their ass sense of being. And you know, Sarah Shaw,
he is so incredible at that on sex, like there's
there's always so much sort of turmoil going on underneath
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and that, you know, because oftentimes we don't say what
we mean. You know, It's like we say something, but
then you're relying on the actor to convey that is
not the truth. You know, whether they know it or
if they don't know it, you know, there's more, there's
more underneath. Well, I love Okay. First of all, I
have a picture of you just like being Shakespeare right
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as you're like acting out your script. That's like what's
in my mind right now. That's as put it into
wet pants with like no shower and hair and a
messy ben and like that's a little more accurate. I
love it. I love it. Well. I think, Okay, here
she is acting things out and this is the first
time I've ever really processed this that as that writer,
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you're sitting there and you're like, oh, even down to
the facial expression, and it's like I know what I
want with that. That's amazing to me. There's that connection
that you're Okay, I'm writing this, I'm feeling this, I
know this, And so when this person is conveying my
story aka my writing, there's all of these pieces and
parts that go to it that's really interesting to me. Yeah,
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I mean that's for sure. I mean, look, I there's
all there are always surprises when an actor brings their
full self to a piece or things you never even imagined,
and it can be even better, you know. And I
think also the thing that's sometimes hard for for writers
or any creative person is that when you imagine something
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in your mind, it's in that perfect world, that's the
ethereal world of your mind, you know, and then when
it comes into the physical universe, there's always like a
little bit of it gets like downgraded just a little
bit because it has to be here. It's not this
like ideal that you had in your head, you know.
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But once you sort of let that go and you
see what it is with real people and real sets
and real costumes on locations and everything, it can be
even greater than what you imagined, you know. And television
is such a collaborative art form, you know. It's like
there's so hundreds of people have put their creativity into
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this show and have their stamp on the show. And
Stacy's figured it out for me. This is why I'm single.
It's because I'm really a writer. I'm a writer and
there's a vision I haven't Yeah, I have to find
the person. That's so funny, Well do you do the
thing where you write down the things that you're looking
for and a guy? Like maybe this is very California,
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but this is what we all do out here. Like
if you get to a certain age and you haven't
found the guy, and let me just say, I met
my husband when I was thirty seven. Okay, so I
had a list. There was like four pages back in
front single space. Okay, have I found my people? But yeah,
But my husband, who had also been told by his
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California friends, like, you know, write down what you're looking
for and a woman and you know, and manifested or whatever.
At least he gets it out of your head and
it's clear like he had like seven things on his list,
which is very steet. But at a certain point also
you have to sort of prioritize and go like, what
are the things that I really really need and what
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are the things that I could let go. I mean
I was down to like he likes eating shellfish. I
mean it was bird, you know. I don't know why.
I think I had a bad experience with the boyfriend
who didn't like shellfish and I missed it or something.
I don't even know where that came from. But that
is definitely oddly specific. But I know, yeah, but I
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mean I do. Look, I do believe getting anything out
of your head and out on paper is helpful, you know,
because we can just do a number on ourselves and
spin and spin and spin. So I'll be curious if
you do a list how many pages it is, you know,
I'm I will put my list down and I will
message you and let you know. Okay, I don't know
if I should should I add shellfish? Maybe maybe that's
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what I missed that, but I mean, like that's that's
the thing I also love about about sex life, about
the effect that it's having on women, is that it's
making them really think, what is it that I want?
You know, and it's and sometimes it's it changes over
the course of your life, you know. And like for me,
when I met my husband, like I said, I was
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thirty seven and I had really gotten to the place
where I thought, it's it's probably not going to happen
for me this time around, Like I'm I'm probably not
going to meet the guy. I'm I'm probably not going
to have kids, and that's okay, Like my career is
going great, and I have a great nephew and he'll
be the ones fee with me on my deathbed. And
and I really had sort of really gotten okay with this.
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And I bought a condo and I decorated the condo
exactly how I wanted, which was totally girly and like
very sparkly and you know, and and lots of colors
and everything. And then of course, within like very short
period of time, I met my husband, and um, and
within like a week of dating, Uh, he asked me.
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He said, um, well, do you want to have kids?
And I really had gotten my head around to the
other side, but I could tell that he was asking
because he wanted to have kids. So I was like, oh,
my god, totally yeah, so much, you know, and um
and anyway, you know, things change. But I I just
I'm really trying to encourage women to really honor their
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desires whatever they are, whether it's to be a mom,
or whether it's to work, or whether it's to have
sexy time or whatever it is for them, you know,
just to to really honor that and to nurture that,
and to encourage partners that they need to honor that
in their partner if they want to have a happy life,
because if you don't have a happy partner, you're not
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going to have a happy life. And so because I
genuinely feel like, well, we need to take a step
back in a second, you can describe the show, because
I think this is important for people who have never
heard of it, which is probably just two or three people,
not a lot. But if you haven't heard of it,
we're going to talk about that. But I feel like
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this show just right through the heart on so many women.
It's like you're in their head, you're in their heart.
So let's go ahead. I don't want to keep hyping up.
You tell us your best explanation of what you have created. Yeah,
So sex Life is about a wife, a mom who
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is living in the suburbs and you know she's just
had her second, her second baby, so she's sort of
what I call in the ship. You know, she's up
all night breastfeeding, she's exhausted, and she starts too long
for those sort of her wild child single in the
city days back in the city and with her impossibly
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sexy ex boyfriend Brad, and she starts to wonder, like,
where did that girl go? And so she starts to
write in her journal about those wild child sexy time
days and her impossibly sexy ex boyfriend Brad. And then
her husband reads her journal and he had no idea,
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first of all, that she had been such a wild
child in the city, but also he did not know
that she was unhappy really, and so you know, he
starts trying to act out what she has written about
from the past and trying to give her what she wants,
which is very very sweet, but of course it's also
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really freaking weird to feel like you're competing against another
guy her past, like you have to do something to
be you know, sexier or more acceptable. And drama ensues,
especially when Brad, her impossibly sexy ex boyfriend from the past,
turns up in the present again and you know, without
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ruining too much, it's that fantasy of he's still madly
in love with her and he has fixed all of
the problems that made it impossible for them to be
together before. So the whole first season is really like
a little sheer won't sheet between her husbands and her
ex boyfriend and anyway, and then she makes a big
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takes a big chance at the end of season one,
and then we pick up in season two. But we
can't forget. Yeah, we can't forget season one. It was
all over social media. Episode about She's like, uh huh,
episode three, nineteen fifty seconds in Okay, you got the
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time code. That's awesome, the quintessential shower scene where he
turns and I think everyone in the world is like,
that is the biggest penis I've seen. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well,
you know I always say I mean as a sort
of a joke. I was like, I've been really surprised
by I'll just talk about the size. I mean, maybe
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it's just who I'm married too, but like, does every
guy looks like that? We just had this discussion. We
were out at a bar and we had this discussion
and we were hanging out with someone and they were like, oh, yeah,
I have a size twelve shoe, and my friend and
I started laughing because She's like, Heather, I don't know
what it is with you. Guys with large penises just
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attract to you. I'm like, I know, but I don't
That's not what I'm really wanting. But by the way,
like you know, it's not a problem if that's on
your list, but listen, I just don't want one that
hangs down to the floor, right, Like, Okay, that's not
something that Yeah, there is a sweet side. But what
I will say about the whole sort of journey to
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the shower scene is that, you know it really it
did not come from a place of like we gotta
make some moment that people are going to clip on TikTok.
Like we were very i think surprised by that. I mean,
you get so used to writing this kind of material,
and she's kind of material that you sort of get
used to it. And then the episode, i mean, the
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whole season goes out and people are like, oh my god,
it's so sexy. There's so much sex, and I'm like,
all right, okay, yeah, here's a lot. But but with
that scene specifically, like we were in this episode that
was all about Cooper the husband's obsession with who is
this guy that my wife is writing in her journal
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about and it's obsessed with and so he goes to
you know, first he goes straight to the guy's office.
He's gonna you know, confront him and find out head on,
but he's just leaving just when he gets there, and
so he's like, am I gonna follow this guy? Oh?
My god, I'm gonna follow this guy? And he sort
of hates himself that suddenly he's like stalking his life's
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ex ex boyfriend. But at each step of the way
he's like, could I'm still going? And so the ex
boyfriend goes into the gym and he's like going into
the gym, and the ex boyfriend is working out, and
so has the husbands been working out so that he
can keep an eye on him. And then he goes
into the shower and he's like, am I going to
go into the shower? Fuck? I'm going into the shower.
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And then it's the moment of am I gonna look?
And I mean, I really feel that the scene worked
so well because of Mike Vogel, who plays Cooper the husband.
I mean, his reactions, I feel like are what really
sell it. But so the whole intention was that he
does look and what he sees is intimidating. You know.
It really was meant from a story perspective to make
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him go like, fuck my life, basically, how am I
gonna compense? So yeah, and so you know I used
to m I you know, and and so anyway, that
was that was that was where that whole thing sort
of came from. And and and I'm glad that it
had that effect. Where listen, you never on social media.
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You never know what's gonna pop off, literally, like I
never know, you just don't know. Did you have to
interview like was it really that guy? Or like before
you started, like I need someone with a really large penis?
Like did you have to take your pants down to everyone?
And like you literally had to like or did because
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I'm like, that's awkward. Yeah, No, it's funny because what
I used to say about whether it's a prosthetic or not,
it's what Adam Demos always said, which he's the actor
who plays Brad and he always said, a gentleman never
tells um. But just recently I saw him in the
Hollywood Reporter, out loud and proud, saying, I think everyone
knows by now that it was a prosthetica. My mind
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is blown right now. So yeah, are you telling me
that some of these movies this isn't real? Yeah yeah,
I mean look, and I think you can go down
a Google rabbit hole and who knows, um what's correct
or not. But I think that there are a list
of shows where it's a prosthetic and where it's real.
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Of course there are, because it's like everyone on social media,
they are like investigators. So that does not surprise me
that they would know. Well, no, there's a freckle right there, Like,
it does not surprise me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
look for us, we really uh wanted to make it
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comfortable for Adam, who's the who's the you know, who
plays the ex boyfriend, And we have an intimacy coordinator,
which is this new role in Hollywood where um, there's
someone who is the safe space for the actor. Yeah,
you know, because there's the real power dynamic, like I'm
technically the boss and so an actor sometimes wants to
make the boss happy or whatever. Um, but we really
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wanted to stay gave him and anyone from the conversation
of like, so here's the story point and here's what
it's supposed to do it's supposed to be really intimidating,
so you got the goods or should we go with
the prosthetic? And so we just never ever went that way.
It was always just going to be a prosthetic. And
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we have an incredible team. You know, Miles Dale, who's
the other one of the other executive producers on the show.
He works with Guermo del Toro all the time. So
the prosthetics people are the people from Guermo del Toro's
like creature shop basically, so they're not usually doing these
kinds of creatures. But they certainly did agree. Yeah, exactly.
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And I mean I will say the other thing that
they did in the first season, which I you know,
have talked about it is that so Sarah Shaw, he
who plays the wife and mom, and as I said,
so she's still breastfeeding her second baby when we meet
her in real life in out like her, Sarah Shaw,
he is not breastfeeding kids. So her breast did not
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look authentic for a woman who is breastfeeding a baby.
And as a mom myself and as someone whose breastsped myself,
I knew that's not real, right, And it's so important
to me on this show, which is like so much
from the female perspective and so much about the female
experience that there was authenticity to that sort of thing.
So her breasts when you're seeing them in what's the
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present day of the show, those are prosthetics as well,
and and that's amazing. In the past it's not. But yeah, yeah, well,
and I think that would make them feel comfortable because,
you know, being an entertainment industry, not that entertainment industry,
but just being like an entertainer in general, people notice differences,
right if you change, And so yeah, I feel like
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that would be a little less pressure because it's not like,
I mean, I nursed and they were awesome, and I
wish I could have kept them forever, but you know,
you don't want that pressure of oh my goodness, how
am I gonna recreate because that's almost it's impossible. So
that I feel like that's a good thing that you
guys have those prosthetics that will allow totally and you know, look,
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it's like a four hour process to get those things on.
It's like a hard thing for the actor. And there
was a point, you know, when the first season came
out that I was like, is anyone noticing this, like,
is anyone was this worth it? You know? But of
course I know, and that's important to me, and that's
all your work quality though, let's be honest, really yeah,
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but you do you know people go off on Steff,
you know, on on Twitter or whatever, and I'm sure
we would have gotten the whole like that bad right,
you know, so can't you know? You gotta be on
your toes. What I love about this show is kind
of what we talked about earlier. It is it is
resonating with women. I know in my last marriage it
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was okay. I realized when I started thinking about this
is missing, that is missing? What about like past lovers?
You know, we're just being honest here. I mean, I'm
just being open about it because when you don't have
that and you are in the shit, right, you're you're
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a mom, and you're you're just a mom, and you're
just a wife. And so many people out there, so
many of my I don't like to say followers, my family,
my savage family, so many people that hits home. I
put up a post about, Hey, this lady was upset
because it was her birthday, and she said, I do
for everyone. I make birthdays huge. I do this, I
do that, And she was like, no one's even celebrating
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my birthday today for me, and it's like, whoa, that
is horrible and just the amount of comments and her
comment section, and then when I reposted it, I said,
let's go give her some love. The amount of people
I said, this is going to hit home because it
hits home with me. It's like the sisterhood that just
comes together. And I see that for your show. People
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are just that's often that resonates with me. Man. I
wish I could have that passion back because you know what,
just because we have a kid and where someone's wife
doesn't mean we like die inside like we still want
Like I like having sex. I love that part of it.
So when when that shifts over and to not You're like, wow,
where did this go? How can I get this back?
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I want that pree mom, pree, you know life thing
again totally totally, And you know moms are not always
encouraged to nurture that part of themselves. I mean I
will say that it's like it feels that martyrdom is
the ideal for mothers, Like yes, you make your birthdays
for everyone else you make everybody, you know, you take
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care of everybody, everybody else when they're sick, and you know,
everybody has their lunches and their homework is done and
they're picked up from baseball or whatever the things are,
you know, and you're supposed to just feel grateful, and look,
I feel incredibly grateful for my too kids and that
they're healthy. I do feel incredibly grateful. I think what
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we're trying to say is it's possible to feel incredibly
grateful and to still want more and to still miss
this other part of yourself. And that's you know, Look,
it's a tall order to say, like you got to
do all the lunches and the pickups and the you know,
all of that stuff, plus also find time to make
yourself feel however you want to feel, or that part
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of yourself that you're missing, you know, And that's different
for everybody, Like for me in the show, like Billy,
you know, when she's unhappy and all of that, like her,
the first thing her her best friend says is like,
you clearly have too much time on your hands. And
she was like, you need to go back to work.
And like for some people it is like you should
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go back to work, and for some people that is
absolutely not what they want. For some people, it's like
about a date night or it's about you know, a
staycation or you know anything like that. I had the time,
like you know, Billy had, I had the oh, well,
you know what it's time to like go get freakidiki.
So yeah, I had that, and I was like, oh
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my gosh, this is waking in something up in me
that I have been wanting for a while and desiring.
So that's why I just love this the sex life
so much because it is real, even though like you're
writting it, it is real. So many people can put
themselves and drop themselves right into that that main character
and be like this is me. So thank you for
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writing this. Yeah, and continually, and that's awesome. That's awesome.
And you know, I do want to say just about
the whole like, are we encouraging people to get to
force because you know, I've I've I hear I hear
that sometimes from very angry people entreprenially, and what I
will say is that's not That's not the case. I mean,
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first of all, communication is so key, and this season
we have this great episode between Bill our main character
and her mom, who has been so judgmental Billy's whole life,
and you sort of learn what is her mom's own
trauma that happened and why her mom was encouraging her
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the way she was encouraging her. But the problem was
is that Billy had her mom's voice in her head
all the time, and so she did hide parts of herself, yeah,
from the guy she was going to marry, and so
she was not honest with herself or with him, and
so that's a problem. And you know, I say, like,
who you choose to spend your life with is one
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of the most important decisions you will ever make. And
I really really believe that. And if you can't, if
you're not yet at a place where you can be
honest with yourself, doesn't even matter who it is that
you're picking, you know. But but then once you pick
that person, you know, the communication is really really important.
And and look, this is the TV show, this is
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the fairy tale also about like the one who Got
Away and all of that kind of stuff, right, But
in the real world not always, But it is possible
if you've picked a great guy and you're honest with
him and you say Hey, this is what's going on
with me. I do believe there are a lot of
guys who would be like, what can we do right?
How do I fix this? I agree? I think that
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our age group, I'm a gen xer, like our age group.
I feel like we are finally starting that trend of
speaking out a little bit and saying, hold on a second.
It's not like my mom or my grandmother, you know
the examples that we had where they just sucked it
up and dealt with it and suppressed and never talked
about it. And I'm like, you know, I want my
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husband to grab me and throw me around and do things,
you know what I mean? I want that like, And
I don't necessarily want to be like, hey, um, tomorrow
at for a plot, can you blame throw me around
the word like? You know, I don't want that either.
So it's like you're you were stuck in that spot
of like your grandmother, your mother in your head of no,
it's fine, you just you just keep dealing with it,
you just stay with them whatever. So I'm hoping that
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by us speaking out as gen xers, that we're starting
this trend of you know what, we aren't gonna sit
and live in an unhappy relationship. You have a choice
to communicate you you know, you have those choices. So
when we had talked about you coming, I was like, yes,
this is awesome, Like she's my people. That's amazing. So
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let's talk real quick about is it difficult as a
writer producer in what was a man's world? Right? Like,
how difficult is that? Do you have any advice for
young female writers coming up? Yeah? I mean I will
say things are changing. You know. When I started out, Uh,
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there was there were many fewer female TV writers, and
often I would get the call from my agents that
would say they're looking for a fe male writer, and naively,
I was like, oh my gosh, great, they're looking for
a female writer. I could be that female writer. And
I didn't sort of realize, well, it's because they've already
(30:10):
hired ten dudes, you know, and now they can't they
need one, and so um, you know, there was definitely
a time when I would try to pitch stories, especially
for female characters that felt really authentic to me and
personal to me, and it was hard to get traction
(30:31):
because they're they're so personal that like the guy writers
or the guy boss that's sort of like, what now,
we're not doing that, that's crazy, you know. Um, And
then in terms of like creating whole shows with female
protagonists and from the female point of view, that's also
a relatively new thing to see in such abundance, because
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I've certainly pitched shows in the past and been told
it's two female and you know, even though women are
such a huge part of the television audience, but you know,
I've been told that. And so now it's sort of
with the explosion of the streamers and there are so
many more outlets, there is a chance. And it's not
just in terms of gender diversity, but it's all kinds
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of diversity. There's all kinds of stories now that are
that are being told, which is really exciting and getting
to hear you know, from people and other points of
view and experiences. But ultimately, I mean, look, it's still idea.
Have to say that the shows that are considered high art,
(31:35):
you know, prestige, critically acclaimed things, the vast majority of
those have male protagonists. And there is still something ingrained
in our society that sort of ghettoises female stories that
are about the female experience. And you see that not
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only just in terms of sort of the prestige factor,
but also in terms of what shows really get promoted. Um,
and so there's you know, it's still challenging. But at
the same time, I feel so incredibly fortunate, I mean,
just to have the opportunity to tell this story and
to have the support from Netflix. That it is so
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female forward, and it is so much about the female
point of view, and it is so personal to me,
you know, and that there's there's lots of fun, and
there's sexy guys, and there's nudity and there's all of that,
and yeah, and big twists and turns and big oh
my god moments and all of that. But there are
also really important themes underneath about the female experience, which
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you've been talking, you know about, and and I've never
sort of gotten the note of like, please stop saying that,
you know. So that's that's been incredibly fortunate. And you know, look,
the advice that I would give to young female writers
is sort of the same I would give to a
male writer too, which is just I really believe that
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you should write from an incredibly personal place. I mean,
you know, I do believe that the more personal you get,
the more it's going to resonate with other people. I mean,
of course, you hope, like you're you're you're saying like,
does anybody else feel this way? Did anybody else experience that?
But I do believe that's the only way you're going
to get to something new and that is uniquely yours,
(33:19):
and and to trust in that and to trust like
you know, some people say like, well, I wasn't abandoned
as a child, and I didn't suffer through war or
whatever was the trauma. You know that people feel like
they have to have to write a story, but I
don't believe those are the only stories that are out there,
you know, And I also believe, like you know, this
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is it's so it's so great to be able to
be a writer or really an artist of any kind
because it is your job to observe the world and
say something about it, and it's it's the only thing
that really sort of I mean, we all felt there
was this, I think, especially in the pandemic. It's like,
you know, what is life without that sort of ape
(34:00):
and without right right whether it's books or movies or
TV shows or something that are that are you know,
sort of reflecting our experience and telling us about life
and giving us people to live through and and versions
of life to live through, and so um and so
I feel like, you know, look, it's a hard business.
Hollywood is a killer, okay, And it's like why you
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also got to celebrate the winds whenever they come, even
if it's just your getting up to like, you know,
five hundred feet on the mountain, then there's still like
ten thousand feet to go. You got to celebrate all
those wins because it's the killer, but the reward it's
really exciting. I mean, to have an effect on people,
to have people say like I've really been moved, I
see myself in your show, like I'm really inspired, Like
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oh my god, you're kidding me, Like that's that's that's
the purpose of life in a way. Well, like that's
why I was kind of curious because looking back and
the conversation we just had about listening to your mom,
listening to your grandma, listening to those things, it almost
felt like they were a lot of male writers, which
is okay, there is nothing wrong with that, but it's
(35:05):
now kind of taking this turn of wait, there are
more things that resonate with me now on a deeper level.
So it makes me wonder like, oh, well, wait a minute,
Stacy female creator, really dove in and is like looking
into my head and looking into my soul here. So
it's kind of like, it would be really cool to
(35:27):
have more women writers that really are able to connect
with us. I'm not saying that men never do. Don't
don't hear that, because I know people will put something
in their own head. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying,
as things are turning and as we are getting older
and we are being more open, I feel like we're
almost cracking these codes of yeah, it's okay, let's talk
(35:50):
about it. It's okay, we have these desires, it's okay this.
So I just I was kind of wondering because I
was wondering if there was kind of a little shift
of more female writers coming in. So no hate or
shade on anyone at all. So what would you tell
that I do have a good amount of people that
I mean in life, right, people will go through their
(36:10):
divorces and they go through changes. What would you tell
someone they might be a single parent, they want to
kind of shift and move and and they're doing it
on their own they've got, they've got a career they
need to tend to. What message can we kind of
tell some moms out there right now that they can
do it all because you seem like you can do
it all too. So oh my gosh, Well, you know,
(36:31):
I have a lot of help. I do have a husband,
and we do have childcare as well. So I mean, like,
let's not let's not sort of gloss over what it
really takes to be able, you know, to do this
and I you know, but even more importantly than just
having another set of hands, like I have a partner
who is so supportive of my goals and my dreams,
(36:55):
you know, and that and like I said, I didn't
meet him till I was thirty seven. I didn't get
married till I was forty, Like I was not like
I was holding out for the right thing. So but
as someone who you're describing is sort of a little
bit past that point, I mean I would say what
my mother always said to me when you're in something
like that, which is, please be good to yourself right now,
(37:16):
you know, be kind to yourself. And part of that
is is really listening to yourself, like what is going
to make you happy? Like I can remember when I
would drop my kids off at at nursery school and
some of the other moms were like, oh my god,
(37:37):
look at them. They're so incredible. Doesn't it just like
break your heart like straight open, like right in the
moment where I was like, Okay, you got your lunch, Okay,
you're ready to go. Okay, I'm gonna go to work
or whatever, and I was like, oh my god, I'm
the worst mom ever like that. I'm not standing here
having this like you know, heart swell a moment. I'm
you know, like in the practical day to day of
(37:59):
it all, and they're like constantly enamored with their kids
or whatever. And so I started to judge myself in
a way as a mom, you know, And like I said,
I love my fucking children, like you know, I still
like my kids are eleven and eight now. I lie
in bed next to them every night and we have
the deepest conversations, and I adore these people. And I
do feel like my life is so much bigger and
(38:21):
better than it ever was without them, you know. But
I also was going to go to work, you know,
and fulfill that other part of myself, and so I
think it's really important to be kind to yourself and
to be good to yourself, and and to just really
listen to yourself, like what is it that is going
to make you feel great? You know? And by the way,
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it's also okay to like try some things and go
like that, ain't it? You know? Like I know plenty
of women who are like, I think I want to
quit my job, like I'm not getting to see my
kids enough, and like that's great. That's the opposite of
what I'm saying. It's like, you know, and I've often
said that. I said, like, I think I would like
to be a stay at home mom and I want
to see my kids weren't and and my husband would
(39:03):
be like, oh, you would be miserable, like you know,
right in like in two seconds, I said, well, I
would like the chance to find that out for myself, sure,
you know. And so I would just encourage women like
you know who you are, and especially women who feel
like they're missing some piece of themselves of who they
used to be. I would say that girl is still
in there, and you can be whoever you want to be,
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and and and all of those parts of you are valuable,
and look for ways to nurture that girl, you know,
because she's still there and she deserves a chance. I
love that. I love that so much. I told you
would be about thirty minutes, and I think we're already
at like forties. Okay, Okay, I feel so bad. I'm sorry.
(39:47):
I always I don't want to. I know you, I know,
I know that you're busy. Okay, appreciate. I will ask
a very very quick teaser on this one, and then
we're going to do our savage seven of what well
next season bring? Um? Well, we're hoping that there is
a third season. You know, I need to call right
(40:08):
now to make like, yeah, there are several executives in Netflix. Well,
i'll give you the list. Okay, Son, you send me
your list of what you're looking for in a guile,
I'll send you the list. It just might happen to
be one of those. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, but uh,
you know, look, it's we got all of the characters
uh to a really meaningful place this season, and that
(40:30):
was important to me. And I always said we were
telling a fairy tale, um and and I wanted to
get each of these characters to their own sort of
version of of a happy ever after for now, And
I always say more now because there are always more
stories to tell with these characters and in the sex
life the universe, and we have a lot of ideas
(40:51):
of what that would be, which I won't spoil for you.
But you know these um you know these issues of
like how do you find your way you know, as
a woman and as a wife and mom, and how
do you balance all of this? How do you balance
sex in life? Um? Those stories are never gonna add
So there's good. I'm excited. I'm excited. Yes, thank you.
(41:14):
Just give me the list, no problem. Yeah, we'll get
the Savage fam on a. All right, Now we are
at the point where we do the Savage seven. Okay,
so for new people out there, Savage seven seven rapid
fire questions, Stacy will get one and only one skip,
so she has to choose that wisely. Are we ready? Yea,
(41:36):
all right? First question, are there any episodes based on
your real life? Uh? There are parts of every episode
that are based on my real life? Who dang it,
I should have said which one, but I didn't. Okay,
Next question, if you could pick any actor actress to
(41:58):
just come in and drop in on an episode? Who
would you love to have come in? Kate Blanchett. I
mean she's available, right, it's only nominated for oscars and stuff, right,
right right, I'll put her on my list. I'll kill
her too. Okay. The scene that we talked about, the
(42:20):
spicy scene earlier. If you not that you wanted to
replace him, but if you could replace him with one
major actor, who would you see in that role? Just
the shower scene by Darling out of few moots, Well,
I would never replace it, right, No, we don't want
to replace you. This is just hypothetically speaking. I mean,
(42:42):
I'm having a Pedro Pascal moment right now. I'm freaking
love him. So yeah, I'm having a Pedro Pascal moment. Okay,
all right, we'll take it. Next question. An embarrassing moment
that happened on set, an embarrassing them and that outside. Well,
(43:06):
I mean I can tell you now that, like Adam
is talking about it, when we were figuring out the
prosthetic for that scene, there was a lot of sizing
that happens. I'll put it that way, okay, And you
pick from a model and then you have to see
it sort of up against the actor and see like
(43:29):
is this right or not. And so the first time
we did that, we were on location in like a restaurant,
and so we just went to the bathroom basically of
the restaurant that we're in it with me and it
was I think a Casey, our intimacy coordinator was there
and I think also the director, and we were like, okay,
(43:50):
that's way too big. So let me just say that
what ended up being in the show is sized down
from where we started. Okay, so we've learned something about
Stacey and her um. But that moment in the bathroom,
I mean, look, Adam and I have worked together before.
We worked on Unreal together, so we're old friends. So
(44:12):
that helped make it slightly less embarrassing. But it was,
you know, not your your usual day in the office.
I'll put it that way. Could you imagine someone in
the next doll? No, that's not that's not big enough.
That's awesome, all right. Next question, if you had to
write a story or a show around me, what would
(44:33):
that look like? Oh, my god, fears fears in spiritual.
I mean, look, there's a version of sex Life, you know,
our spinoff that's that's you. That is sex Life, you know,
and I'd me up, sister, and it would be very funny, too,
(44:54):
very funny. You know, we put in little things here
and there in our show, you know, just sort of
cut the drama. But I just feel like your comedy
is so front and center of who you are, which
is so wonderful. So that would be fun to follow
as well. All right, we have to make that one happen.
I like that. I was gonna say, a little sex,
a lot of sex, a little funny, and some life
in life. I mean, I guess that's like, you know,
(45:15):
it's in there somewhere, all right. Yeah, next question, if
you were not a writer producer, what would you would
you be doing? Well, look, when I was a kid,
I thought it was going to be an astronaut. Okay,
and I in high school, I was a little nerdy,
and I won this competition where you come up with
(45:37):
an experiment to put on the Space shutow. This is
back when the Space Shuttle was going up, and and
I got to go down to the Goddard Space Flight
Center in Maryland and present my paper to to NASA. Now,
I will say, because clearly these kinds of themes of
the show have been in my blood for a long time.
The experiment that I was pitching them was whether you
(45:59):
could have a baby in space, and it was a
way to see, like would like the embryo develop um properly,
but like the step back from that when they were
like design an experiment, it did start with what happens
if you have sex in space? And then I was like, well,
how can we have an experiment I'm pitching NASA from this,
and then it went to like, oh yeah, baby with
(46:19):
the baby develop normally. But but I I'm fascinated with space.
There's Nilon musk um joke in season two, Like I
just I'm fascinated with SpaceX, you know, and and the
New Frontier or whatever, so that that would be a
total dream. I mean, Stacy's in school, like with these
major projects, I'm like smelling my scratch stiff sticker like that,
(46:42):
I get the great one. I love it. I love
it all right. Something you wish that you could take back?
Oh man, uh, well, I will stay. There was a
boyfriend in high school who I then dated a little
(47:03):
bit into college, who I I didn't treat as well
as I would have liked to have treated, you know,
and I was a little bit uh, boy crazy when
I got to college, and so it wasn't so good
at keeping a long distance relationship going. And but I
strung him along a little bit, and you know, he
has a really special place in my heart and I
(47:25):
feel I feel really bad about how I treated him.
And do you want to give initials? And this is
like your public apology? Does he know? Do you think
if he's hearing this right now, do you think he
would know? I'm horrified. If he's hearing it right now,
he's probably like, stop it, like, stop trying to reach out,
stop trying to be friends in social media, whatever, leave
(47:46):
me the flout. Okay, so, Stacy, we are going to
allow this to be your apology. Don't carry that any longer.
Oh my god, you're good. I just yeah, I just know,
I know. I know what I did, and I'm smarter
now and I wouldn't do the same thing again. And
and he's an amazing, amazing guy and ladies and gentlemen,
(48:09):
is the character? No, I was kidding. Yeah, I won't ask,
I won't. We won't confirm the team he came before,
the brads that were the real brads. Okay, I got it. Well,
is there anything else coming out that you would like
to tell people about. UM, I'm working on a new
(48:31):
script for Netflix that I'm not supposed to talk about. UM,
but it also explores similar themes about women and love
and life and I'm very excited about that. And UM,
you know, we'll see if there's a season three of
Sex Life, that would be great. Well give me those numbers.
The Sea Fam will help you. We will take care
of you. Oh great, Thank you, Stacy. I really enjoyed.
(48:55):
I'd love to have you back on after season three.
I'd love to new with it. Yep, and your new
project that we're not going to talk about. I really
really enjoyed having you on here. I love what you
stand for. I just adore you and think that you
are helping not just a few, but the masses get
back in touch with just getting back alive again and
(49:17):
not suppressed everything. So thank you for what you're doing,
and thank you for coming up. You're welcome. Thank you
so much. It was a joy. NI. Well that's a
rap for us. Make sure you guys are subscribing and
following and never missing an episode. We're out
Oh seven. I like to keep it real simple. It's Wednesday.
We know what time it is. Simply savage. Oh my goodness.
This week I'm in all of everything that she has done.
This week we have Stacy ru Kaiser with us. I'm
(00:23):
gonna let you tell everybody some of the things that
you have worked on. There's a spicy one we're going
to really get into. Stacy. Welcome, Welcome, welcome, thank you,
thank you so much. Yeah. So sex Life on Netflix.
It's a show that I created and and that I
run now and we just started our second season. Our
(00:45):
second season just launched. I've been a TV writer for
over twenty years, and I worked my way up the ladder.
I started on a show called Without a Trace that
everyone including you, is too young to know about. Wait,
I'm surprise ye with my age, I might know that one. Um. Yeah,
(01:05):
I came on up and I worked on some YA shows.
I worked on One Tree Hill and The Lion Game
and UM and the TV version of Crash and and
then I was working on Unreal, which was sort of
my second favorite show, second to sex Life, which started
on Lifetime is and then went to Hulu and it's
(01:27):
on Hulu. Um, and then sex Life is the first
show that I created myself as well as running it.
So it's my baby that looks and feels and smells
exactly the way that I wanted to. So how long
have you been out there? How long have you been
writing producing? When did you start? Yeah? Long time? So
(01:49):
I M I mean, I guess you can find my
age on the internet, so it's not a secret. I
don't know why people hide it. People like what's your age? Oh?
I shouldn't escalated. I'm like, you know what at this
point everywhere? So yeah, yeah, yeah. So, as I said,
I've been working as a TV writer for for just
over twenty years. And then there were four years before
(02:10):
that when I was trying to be a writer and
was trying to sell stuff and trying to get jobs,
and I wasn't getting jobs, and and I was tutoring
kids to make money and I was way interesting to
make money. And then before that I had a former
life as an actress. Um uh. First in New York City.
I went to sort of two years of drama school
(02:33):
after college, and then I did a lot of really
great theater that really does not pay any money. It's
very hard to be a theater actor in New York.
And so then I came out to LA and I
was doing, you know, some small things. But it was
an agent of mine, an acting agent of mine, who said,
have you ever thought about writing anything? And um, and
(02:57):
I did have this idea for it was for a
film at that time, and he was he was great.
He gave me great license. He was like, write it,
Just write it, even if it's shitty, just write it.
And then he was like a total agent because he
was like, you take two weeks and write it. And
it did not just take two weeks, but the experience
(03:18):
that I had writing that was really personally transformative, and
I felt like I was like snapping back into who
I really was as a person. And you know, when
I'd come out to LA and was trying to be
an actress, like my hair was getting highlighted and I
became like blonder and blonder and blonder, until the point
where people would be like talking about, oh, the blonde,
and I was like, who are they talking about? And
they're like, oh, they're talking about you. And so the
(03:40):
same week that I finished writing that script, and I
had had this whole like realization of this is what
I should be doing in my life. I dyed my
hair back to brown. It was like I was snapping
back into who I really was. That's a trend right
now over on TikTok. I'm sure it's on every platform.
But it's like, this is me, and this is me
one year into LA or one you're into Florida, and
(04:00):
it's like a whole bunny and they all look the
same at the end. Oh my god, that's so funny,
and it's it's insidians because you don't really it's happening.
You're like, I just have highlights, you know, And then
suddenly you're like, no, you're Marilynd fucking Monroe now, you know,
So I shouldn't move to LA. Is what your nose?
(04:22):
I mean? Some people love that, you know what I mean?
And also, ps, my mom went totally blonde when she
you know, started getting more and more gray, and she
looks fantastic now she's like a bomb show with the blonde.
So that day is coming. That's how my mom. Yes,
my mom's the same way. I'm like, you had brown hair,
but she is blonde now because of you know the guys.
She's totally and I'm like that just works for you
(04:44):
and I don't even remember. Yeah, oh that's good. I'm
loading onto my red as long as I can. Yes, yes,
a lot as I can't do it. Thank you. So
do you feel that being an actress that really helped
too when it came to the writing side of things,
like you can understand, I do feel that it really
(05:05):
helped me. Yeah. I mean, first of all, when I'm writing,
I say everything out loud, so I'm sort of like
acting it out and you know, by my computer. And
in fact, I was at my kids chess tournament just
to be totally nerdy on Sunday and I was like sitting,
you know with the other moms, like we wait for
kids to come back out from there from their thing,
(05:25):
and I was like, you know, trying to work on something,
and I realize, oh my god, it's been my thing
that's out loud with the other moms like radio it was.
I was like, oh my god, you probably had like
a whole audience right around like what note taking um.
But I do feel like I understand sort of the
(05:47):
moments and and and what an actor can bring to
a piece, you know, which is so much and so
what you don't have to put in the writing and
what can sort of live underneath the dialogue just from
their ass sense of being. And you know, Sarah Shaw,
he is so incredible at that on sex, like there's
there's always so much sort of turmoil going on underneath
(06:11):
and that, you know, because oftentimes we don't say what
we mean. You know, It's like we say something, but
then you're relying on the actor to convey that is
not the truth. You know, whether they know it or
if they don't know it, you know, there's more, there's
more underneath. Well, I love Okay. First of all, I
have a picture of you just like being Shakespeare right
(06:32):
as you're like acting out your script. That's like what's
in my mind right now. That's as put it into
wet pants with like no shower and hair and a
messy ben and like that's a little more accurate. I
love it. I love it. Well. I think, Okay, here
she is acting things out and this is the first
time I've ever really processed this that as that writer,
(06:57):
you're sitting there and you're like, oh, even down to
the facial expression, and it's like I know what I
want with that. That's amazing to me. There's that connection
that you're Okay, I'm writing this, I'm feeling this, I
know this, And so when this person is conveying my
story aka my writing, there's all of these pieces and
parts that go to it that's really interesting to me. Yeah,
(07:19):
I mean that's for sure. I mean, look, I there's
all there are always surprises when an actor brings their
full self to a piece or things you never even imagined,
and it can be even better, you know. And I
think also the thing that's sometimes hard for for writers
or any creative person is that when you imagine something
(07:39):
in your mind, it's in that perfect world, that's the
ethereal world of your mind, you know, and then when
it comes into the physical universe, there's always like a
little bit of it gets like downgraded just a little
bit because it has to be here. It's not this
like ideal that you had in your head, you know.
(08:00):
But once you sort of let that go and you
see what it is with real people and real sets
and real costumes on locations and everything, it can be
even greater than what you imagined, you know. And television
is such a collaborative art form, you know. It's like
there's so hundreds of people have put their creativity into
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this show and have their stamp on the show. And
Stacy's figured it out for me. This is why I'm single.
It's because I'm really a writer. I'm a writer and
there's a vision I haven't Yeah, I have to find
the person. That's so funny, Well do you do the
thing where you write down the things that you're looking
for and a guy? Like maybe this is very California,
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but this is what we all do out here. Like
if you get to a certain age and you haven't
found the guy, and let me just say, I met
my husband when I was thirty seven. Okay, so I
had a list. There was like four pages back in
front single space. Okay, have I found my people? But yeah,
But my husband, who had also been told by his
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California friends, like, you know, write down what you're looking
for and a woman and you know, and manifested or whatever.
At least he gets it out of your head and
it's clear like he had like seven things on his list,
which is very steet. But at a certain point also
you have to sort of prioritize and go like, what
are the things that I really really need and what
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are the things that I could let go. I mean
I was down to like he likes eating shellfish. I
mean it was bird, you know. I don't know why.
I think I had a bad experience with the boyfriend
who didn't like shellfish and I missed it or something.
I don't even know where that came from. But that
is definitely oddly specific. But I know, yeah, but I
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mean I do. Look, I do believe getting anything out
of your head and out on paper is helpful, you know,
because we can just do a number on ourselves and
spin and spin and spin. So I'll be curious if
you do a list how many pages it is, you know,
I'm I will put my list down and I will
message you and let you know. Okay, I don't know
if I should should I add shellfish? Maybe maybe that's
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what I missed that, but I mean, like that's that's
the thing I also love about about sex life, about
the effect that it's having on women, is that it's
making them really think, what is it that I want?
You know, and it's and sometimes it's it changes over
the course of your life, you know. And like for me,
when I met my husband, like I said, I was
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thirty seven and I had really gotten to the place
where I thought, it's it's probably not going to happen
for me this time around, Like I'm I'm probably not
going to meet the guy. I'm I'm probably not going
to have kids, and that's okay, Like my career is
going great, and I have a great nephew and he'll
be the ones fee with me on my deathbed. And
and I really had sort of really gotten okay with this.
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And I bought a condo and I decorated the condo
exactly how I wanted, which was totally girly and like
very sparkly and you know, and and lots of colors
and everything. And then of course, within like very short
period of time, I met my husband, and um, and
within like a week of dating, Uh, he asked me.
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He said, um, well, do you want to have kids?
And I really had gotten my head around to the
other side, but I could tell that he was asking
because he wanted to have kids. So I was like, oh,
my god, totally yeah, so much, you know, and um
and anyway, you know, things change. But I I just
I'm really trying to encourage women to really honor their
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desires whatever they are, whether it's to be a mom,
or whether it's to work, or whether it's to have
sexy time or whatever it is for them, you know,
just to to really honor that and to nurture that,
and to encourage partners that they need to honor that
in their partner if they want to have a happy life,
because if you don't have a happy partner, you're not
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going to have a happy life. And so because I
genuinely feel like, well, we need to take a step
back in a second, you can describe the show, because
I think this is important for people who have never
heard of it, which is probably just two or three people,
not a lot. But if you haven't heard of it,
we're going to talk about that. But I feel like
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this show just right through the heart on so many women.
It's like you're in their head, you're in their heart.
So let's go ahead. I don't want to keep hyping up.
You tell us your best explanation of what you have created. Yeah,
So sex Life is about a wife, a mom who
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is living in the suburbs and you know she's just
had her second, her second baby, so she's sort of
what I call in the ship. You know, she's up
all night breastfeeding, she's exhausted, and she starts too long
for those sort of her wild child single in the
city days back in the city and with her impossibly
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sexy ex boyfriend Brad, and she starts to wonder, like,
where did that girl go? And so she starts to
write in her journal about those wild child sexy time
days and her impossibly sexy ex boyfriend Brad. And then
her husband reads her journal and he had no idea,
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first of all, that she had been such a wild
child in the city, but also he did not know
that she was unhappy really, and so you know, he
starts trying to act out what she has written about
from the past and trying to give her what she wants,
which is very very sweet, but of course it's also
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really freaking weird to feel like you're competing against another
guy her past, like you have to do something to
be you know, sexier or more acceptable. And drama ensues,
especially when Brad, her impossibly sexy ex boyfriend from the past,
turns up in the present again and you know, without
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ruining too much, it's that fantasy of he's still madly
in love with her and he has fixed all of
the problems that made it impossible for them to be
together before. So the whole first season is really like
a little sheer won't sheet between her husbands and her
ex boyfriend and anyway, and then she makes a big
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takes a big chance at the end of season one,
and then we pick up in season two. But we
can't forget. Yeah, we can't forget season one. It was
all over social media. Episode about She's like, uh huh,
episode three, nineteen fifty seconds in Okay, you got the
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time code. That's awesome, the quintessential shower scene where he
turns and I think everyone in the world is like,
that is the biggest penis I've seen. That's awesome. That's awesome. Well,
you know I always say I mean as a sort
of a joke. I was like, I've been really surprised
by I'll just talk about the size. I mean, maybe
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it's just who I'm married too, but like, does every
guy looks like that? We just had this discussion. We
were out at a bar and we had this discussion
and we were hanging out with someone and they were like, oh, yeah,
I have a size twelve shoe, and my friend and
I started laughing because She's like, Heather, I don't know
what it is with you. Guys with large penises just
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attract to you. I'm like, I know, but I don't
That's not what I'm really wanting. But by the way,
like you know, it's not a problem if that's on
your list, but listen, I just don't want one that
hangs down to the floor, right, Like, Okay, that's not
something that Yeah, there is a sweet side. But what
I will say about the whole sort of journey to
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the shower scene is that, you know it really it
did not come from a place of like we gotta
make some moment that people are going to clip on TikTok.
Like we were very i think surprised by that. I mean,
you get so used to writing this kind of material,
and she's kind of material that you sort of get
used to it. And then the episode, i mean, the
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whole season goes out and people are like, oh my god,
it's so sexy. There's so much sex, and I'm like,
all right, okay, yeah, here's a lot. But but with
that scene specifically, like we were in this episode that
was all about Cooper the husband's obsession with who is
this guy that my wife is writing in her journal
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about and it's obsessed with and so he goes to
you know, first he goes straight to the guy's office.
He's gonna you know, confront him and find out head on,
but he's just leaving just when he gets there, and
so he's like, am I gonna follow this guy? Oh?
My god, I'm gonna follow this guy? And he sort
of hates himself that suddenly he's like stalking his life's
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ex ex boyfriend. But at each step of the way
he's like, could I'm still going? And so the ex
boyfriend goes into the gym and he's like going into
the gym, and the ex boyfriend is working out, and
so has the husbands been working out so that he
can keep an eye on him. And then he goes
into the shower and he's like, am I going to
go into the shower? Fuck? I'm going into the shower.
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And then it's the moment of am I gonna look?
And I mean, I really feel that the scene worked
so well because of Mike Vogel, who plays Cooper the husband.
I mean, his reactions, I feel like are what really
sell it. But so the whole intention was that he
does look and what he sees is intimidating. You know.
It really was meant from a story perspective to make
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him go like, fuck my life, basically, how am I
gonna compense? So yeah, and so you know I used
to m I you know, and and so anyway, that
was that was that was where that whole thing sort
of came from. And and and I'm glad that it
had that effect. Where listen, you never on social media.
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You never know what's gonna pop off, literally, like I
never know, you just don't know. Did you have to
interview like was it really that guy? Or like before
you started, like I need someone with a really large penis?
Like did you have to take your pants down to everyone?
And like you literally had to like or did because
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I'm like, that's awkward. Yeah, No, it's funny because what
I used to say about whether it's a prosthetic or not,
it's what Adam Demos always said, which he's the actor
who plays Brad and he always said, a gentleman never
tells um. But just recently I saw him in the
Hollywood Reporter, out loud and proud, saying, I think everyone
knows by now that it was a prosthetica. My mind
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is blown right now. So yeah, are you telling me
that some of these movies this isn't real? Yeah yeah,
I mean look, and I think you can go down
a Google rabbit hole and who knows, um what's correct
or not. But I think that there are a list
of shows where it's a prosthetic and where it's real.
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Of course there are, because it's like everyone on social media,
they are like investigators. So that does not surprise me
that they would know. Well, no, there's a freckle right there, Like,
it does not surprise me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
look for us, we really uh wanted to make it
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comfortable for Adam, who's the who's the you know, who
plays the ex boyfriend, And we have an intimacy coordinator,
which is this new role in Hollywood where um, there's
someone who is the safe space for the actor. Yeah,
you know, because there's the real power dynamic, like I'm
technically the boss and so an actor sometimes wants to
make the boss happy or whatever. Um, but we really
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wanted to stay gave him and anyone from the conversation
of like, so here's the story point and here's what
it's supposed to do it's supposed to be really intimidating,
so you got the goods or should we go with
the prosthetic? And so we just never ever went that way.
It was always just going to be a prosthetic. And
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we have an incredible team. You know, Miles Dale, who's
the other one of the other executive producers on the show.
He works with Guermo del Toro all the time. So
the prosthetics people are the people from Guermo del Toro's
like creature shop basically, so they're not usually doing these
kinds of creatures. But they certainly did agree. Yeah, exactly.
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And I mean I will say the other thing that
they did in the first season, which I you know,
have talked about it is that so Sarah Shaw, he
who plays the wife and mom, and as I said,
so she's still breastfeeding her second baby when we meet
her in real life in out like her, Sarah Shaw,
he is not breastfeeding kids. So her breast did not
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look authentic for a woman who is breastfeeding a baby.
And as a mom myself and as someone whose breastsped myself,
I knew that's not real, right, And it's so important
to me on this show, which is like so much
from the female perspective and so much about the female
experience that there was authenticity to that sort of thing.
So her breasts when you're seeing them in what's the
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present day of the show, those are prosthetics as well,
and and that's amazing. In the past it's not. But yeah, yeah, well,
and I think that would make them feel comfortable because,
you know, being an entertainment industry, not that entertainment industry,
but just being like an entertainer in general, people notice differences,
right if you change, And so yeah, I feel like
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that would be a little less pressure because it's not like,
I mean, I nursed and they were awesome, and I
wish I could have kept them forever, but you know,
you don't want that pressure of oh my goodness, how
am I gonna recreate because that's almost it's impossible. So
that I feel like that's a good thing that you
guys have those prosthetics that will allow totally and you know, look,
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it's like a four hour process to get those things on.
It's like a hard thing for the actor. And there
was a point, you know, when the first season came
out that I was like, is anyone noticing this, like,
is anyone was this worth it? You know? But of
course I know, and that's important to me, and that's
all your work quality though, let's be honest, really yeah,
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but you do you know people go off on Steff,
you know, on on Twitter or whatever, and I'm sure
we would have gotten the whole like that bad right,
you know, so can't you know? You gotta be on
your toes. What I love about this show is kind
of what we talked about earlier. It is it is
resonating with women. I know in my last marriage it
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was okay. I realized when I started thinking about this
is missing, that is missing? What about like past lovers?
You know, we're just being honest here. I mean, I'm
just being open about it because when you don't have
that and you are in the shit, right, you're you're
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a mom, and you're you're just a mom, and you're
just a wife. And so many people out there, so
many of my I don't like to say followers, my family,
my savage family, so many people that hits home. I
put up a post about, Hey, this lady was upset
because it was her birthday, and she said, I do
for everyone. I make birthdays huge. I do this, I
do that, And she was like, no one's even celebrating
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my birthday today for me, and it's like, whoa, that
is horrible and just the amount of comments and her
comment section, and then when I reposted it, I said,
let's go give her some love. The amount of people
I said, this is going to hit home because it
hits home with me. It's like the sisterhood that just
comes together. And I see that for your show. People
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are just that's often that resonates with me. Man. I
wish I could have that passion back because you know what,
just because we have a kid and where someone's wife
doesn't mean we like die inside like we still want
Like I like having sex. I love that part of it.
So when when that shifts over and to not You're like, wow,
where did this go? How can I get this back?
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I want that pree mom, pree, you know life thing
again totally totally, And you know moms are not always
encouraged to nurture that part of themselves. I mean I
will say that it's like it feels that martyrdom is
the ideal for mothers, Like yes, you make your birthdays
for everyone else you make everybody, you know, you take
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care of everybody, everybody else when they're sick, and you know,
everybody has their lunches and their homework is done and
they're picked up from baseball or whatever the things are,
you know, and you're supposed to just feel grateful, and look,
I feel incredibly grateful for my too kids and that
they're healthy. I do feel incredibly grateful. I think what
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we're trying to say is it's possible to feel incredibly
grateful and to still want more and to still miss
this other part of yourself. And that's you know, Look,
it's a tall order to say, like you got to
do all the lunches and the pickups and the you know,
all of that stuff, plus also find time to make
yourself feel however you want to feel, or that part
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of yourself that you're missing, you know, And that's different
for everybody, Like for me in the show, like Billy,
you know, when she's unhappy and all of that, like her,
the first thing her her best friend says is like,
you clearly have too much time on your hands. And
she was like, you need to go back to work.
And like for some people it is like you should
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go back to work, and for some people that is
absolutely not what they want. For some people, it's like
about a date night or it's about you know, a
staycation or you know anything like that. I had the time,
like you know, Billy had, I had the oh, well,
you know what it's time to like go get freakidiki.
So yeah, I had that, and I was like, oh
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my gosh, this is waking in something up in me
that I have been wanting for a while and desiring.
So that's why I just love this the sex life
so much because it is real, even though like you're
writting it, it is real. So many people can put
themselves and drop themselves right into that that main character
and be like this is me. So thank you for
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writing this. Yeah, and continually, and that's awesome. That's awesome.
And you know, I do want to say just about
the whole like, are we encouraging people to get to
force because you know, I've I've I hear I hear
that sometimes from very angry people entreprenially, and what I
will say is that's not That's not the case. I mean,
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first of all, communication is so key, and this season
we have this great episode between Bill our main character
and her mom, who has been so judgmental Billy's whole life,
and you sort of learn what is her mom's own
trauma that happened and why her mom was encouraging her
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the way she was encouraging her. But the problem was
is that Billy had her mom's voice in her head
all the time, and so she did hide parts of herself, yeah,
from the guy she was going to marry, and so
she was not honest with herself or with him, and
so that's a problem. And you know, I say, like,
who you choose to spend your life with is one
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of the most important decisions you will ever make. And
I really really believe that. And if you can't, if
you're not yet at a place where you can be
honest with yourself, doesn't even matter who it is that
you're picking, you know. But but then once you pick
that person, you know, the communication is really really important.
And and look, this is the TV show, this is
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the fairy tale also about like the one who Got
Away and all of that kind of stuff, right, But
in the real world not always, But it is possible
if you've picked a great guy and you're honest with
him and you say Hey, this is what's going on
with me. I do believe there are a lot of
guys who would be like, what can we do right?
How do I fix this? I agree? I think that
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our age group, I'm a gen xer, like our age group.
I feel like we are finally starting that trend of
speaking out a little bit and saying, hold on a second.
It's not like my mom or my grandmother, you know
the examples that we had where they just sucked it
up and dealt with it and suppressed and never talked
about it. And I'm like, you know, I want my
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husband to grab me and throw me around and do things,
you know what I mean? I want that like, And
I don't necessarily want to be like, hey, um, tomorrow
at for a plot, can you blame throw me around
the word like? You know, I don't want that either.
So it's like you're you were stuck in that spot
of like your grandmother, your mother in your head of no,
it's fine, you just you just keep dealing with it,
you just stay with them whatever. So I'm hoping that
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by us speaking out as gen xers, that we're starting
this trend of you know what, we aren't gonna sit
and live in an unhappy relationship. You have a choice
to communicate you you know, you have those choices. So
when we had talked about you coming, I was like, yes,
this is awesome, Like she's my people. That's amazing. So
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let's talk real quick about is it difficult as a
writer producer in what was a man's world? Right? Like,
how difficult is that? Do you have any advice for
young female writers coming up? Yeah? I mean I will
say things are changing. You know. When I started out, Uh,
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there was there were many fewer female TV writers, and
often I would get the call from my agents that
would say they're looking for a fe male writer, and naively,
I was like, oh my gosh, great, they're looking for
a female writer. I could be that female writer. And
I didn't sort of realize, well, it's because they've already
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hired ten dudes, you know, and now they can't they
need one, and so um, you know, there was definitely
a time when I would try to pitch stories, especially
for female characters that felt really authentic to me and
personal to me, and it was hard to get traction
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because they're they're so personal that like the guy writers
or the guy boss that's sort of like, what now,
we're not doing that, that's crazy, you know. Um, And
then in terms of like creating whole shows with female
protagonists and from the female point of view, that's also
a relatively new thing to see in such abundance, because
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I've certainly pitched shows in the past and been told
it's two female and you know, even though women are
such a huge part of the television audience, but you know,
I've been told that. And so now it's sort of
with the explosion of the streamers and there are so
many more outlets, there is a chance. And it's not
just in terms of gender diversity, but it's all kinds
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of diversity. There's all kinds of stories now that are
that are being told, which is really exciting and getting
to hear you know, from people and other points of
view and experiences. But ultimately, I mean, look, it's still idea.
Have to say that the shows that are considered high art,
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you know, prestige, critically acclaimed things, the vast majority of
those have male protagonists. And there is still something ingrained
in our society that sort of ghettoises female stories that
are about the female experience. And you see that not
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only just in terms of sort of the prestige factor,
but also in terms of what shows really get promoted. Um,
and so there's you know, it's still challenging. But at
the same time, I feel so incredibly fortunate, I mean,
just to have the opportunity to tell this story and
to have the support from Netflix. That it is so
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female forward, and it is so much about the female
point of view, and it is so personal to me,
you know, and that there's there's lots of fun, and
there's sexy guys, and there's nudity and there's all of that,
and yeah, and big twists and turns and big oh
my god moments and all of that. But there are
also really important themes underneath about the female experience, which
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you've been talking, you know about, and and I've never
sort of gotten the note of like, please stop saying that,
you know. So that's that's been incredibly fortunate. And you know, look,
the advice that I would give to young female writers
is sort of the same I would give to a
male writer too, which is just I really believe that
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you should write from an incredibly personal place. I mean,
you know, I do believe that the more personal you get,
the more it's going to resonate with other people. I mean,
of course, you hope, like you're you're you're saying like,
does anybody else feel this way? Did anybody else experience that?
But I do believe that's the only way you're going
to get to something new and that is uniquely yours,
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and and to trust in that and to trust like
you know, some people say like, well, I wasn't abandoned
as a child, and I didn't suffer through war or
whatever was the trauma. You know that people feel like
they have to have to write a story, but I
don't believe those are the only stories that are out there,
you know, And I also believe, like you know, this
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is it's so it's so great to be able to
be a writer or really an artist of any kind
because it is your job to observe the world and
say something about it, and it's it's the only thing
that really sort of I mean, we all felt there
was this, I think, especially in the pandemic. It's like,
you know, what is life without that sort of ape
(34:00):
and without right right whether it's books or movies or
TV shows or something that are that are you know,
sort of reflecting our experience and telling us about life
and giving us people to live through and and versions
of life to live through, and so um and so
I feel like, you know, look, it's a hard business.
Hollywood is a killer, okay, And it's like why you
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also got to celebrate the winds whenever they come, even
if it's just your getting up to like, you know,
five hundred feet on the mountain, then there's still like
ten thousand feet to go. You got to celebrate all
those wins because it's the killer, but the reward it's
really exciting. I mean, to have an effect on people,
to have people say like I've really been moved, I
see myself in your show, like I'm really inspired, Like
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oh my god, you're kidding me, Like that's that's that's
the purpose of life in a way. Well, like that's
why I was kind of curious because looking back and
the conversation we just had about listening to your mom,
listening to your grandma, listening to those things, it almost
felt like they were a lot of male writers, which
is okay, there is nothing wrong with that, but it's
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now kind of taking this turn of wait, there are
more things that resonate with me now on a deeper level.
So it makes me wonder like, oh, well, wait a minute,
Stacy female creator, really dove in and is like looking
into my head and looking into my soul here. So
it's kind of like, it would be really cool to
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have more women writers that really are able to connect
with us. I'm not saying that men never do. Don't
don't hear that, because I know people will put something
in their own head. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying,
as things are turning and as we are getting older
and we are being more open, I feel like we're
almost cracking these codes of yeah, it's okay, let's talk
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about it. It's okay, we have these desires, it's okay this.
So I just I was kind of wondering because I
was wondering if there was kind of a little shift
of more female writers coming in. So no hate or
shade on anyone at all. So what would you tell
that I do have a good amount of people that
I mean in life, right, people will go through their
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divorces and they go through changes. What would you tell
someone they might be a single parent, they want to
kind of shift and move and and they're doing it
on their own they've got, they've got a career they
need to tend to. What message can we kind of
tell some moms out there right now that they can
do it all because you seem like you can do
it all too. So oh my gosh, Well, you know,
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I have a lot of help. I do have a husband,
and we do have childcare as well. So I mean, like,
let's not let's not sort of gloss over what it
really takes to be able, you know, to do this
and I you know, but even more importantly than just
having another set of hands, like I have a partner
who is so supportive of my goals and my dreams,
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you know, and that and like I said, I didn't
meet him till I was thirty seven. I didn't get
married till I was forty, Like I was not like
I was holding out for the right thing. So but
as someone who you're describing is sort of a little
bit past that point, I mean I would say what
my mother always said to me when you're in something
like that, which is, please be good to yourself right now,
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you know, be kind to yourself. And part of that
is is really listening to yourself, like what is going
to make you happy? Like I can remember when I
would drop my kids off at at nursery school and
some of the other moms were like, oh my god,
(37:37):
look at them. They're so incredible. Doesn't it just like
break your heart like straight open, like right in the
moment where I was like, Okay, you got your lunch, Okay,
you're ready to go. Okay, I'm gonna go to work
or whatever, and I was like, oh my god, I'm
the worst mom ever like that. I'm not standing here
having this like you know, heart swell a moment. I'm
you know, like in the practical day to day of
(37:59):
it all, and they're like constantly enamored with their kids
or whatever. And so I started to judge myself in
a way as a mom, you know, And like I said,
I love my fucking children, like you know, I still
like my kids are eleven and eight now. I lie
in bed next to them every night and we have
the deepest conversations, and I adore these people. And I
do feel like my life is so much bigger and
(38:21):
better than it ever was without them, you know. But
I also was going to go to work, you know,
and fulfill that other part of myself, and so I
think it's really important to be kind to yourself and
to be good to yourself, and and to just really
listen to yourself, like what is it that is going
to make you feel great? You know? And by the way,
(38:42):
it's also okay to like try some things and go
like that, ain't it? You know? Like I know plenty
of women who are like, I think I want to
quit my job, like I'm not getting to see my
kids enough, and like that's great. That's the opposite of
what I'm saying. It's like, you know, and I've often
said that. I said, like, I think I would like
to be a stay at home mom and I want
to see my kids weren't and and my husband would
(39:03):
be like, oh, you would be miserable, like you know,
right in like in two seconds, I said, well, I
would like the chance to find that out for myself, sure,
you know. And so I would just encourage women like
you know who you are, and especially women who feel
like they're missing some piece of themselves of who they
used to be. I would say that girl is still
in there, and you can be whoever you want to be,
(39:26):
and and and all of those parts of you are valuable,
and look for ways to nurture that girl, you know,
because she's still there and she deserves a chance. I
love that. I love that so much. I told you
would be about thirty minutes, and I think we're already
at like forties. Okay, Okay, I feel so bad. I'm sorry.
(39:47):
I always I don't want to. I know you, I know,
I know that you're busy. Okay, appreciate. I will ask
a very very quick teaser on this one, and then
we're going to do our savage seven of what well
next season bring? Um? Well, we're hoping that there is
a third season. You know, I need to call right
(40:08):
now to make like, yeah, there are several executives in Netflix. Well,
i'll give you the list. Okay, Son, you send me
your list of what you're looking for in a guile,
I'll send you the list. It just might happen to
be one of those. I'm good. Yeah, yeah, but uh,
you know, look, it's we got all of the characters
uh to a really meaningful place this season, and that
(40:30):
was important to me. And I always said we were
telling a fairy tale, um and and I wanted to
get each of these characters to their own sort of
version of of a happy ever after for now, And
I always say more now because there are always more
stories to tell with these characters and in the sex
life the universe, and we have a lot of ideas
(40:51):
of what that would be, which I won't spoil for you.
But you know these um you know these issues of
like how do you find your way you know, as
a woman and as a wife and mom, and how
do you balance all of this? How do you balance
sex in life? Um? Those stories are never gonna add
So there's good. I'm excited. I'm excited. Yes, thank you.
(41:14):
Just give me the list, no problem. Yeah, we'll get
the Savage fam on a. All right, Now we are
at the point where we do the Savage seven. Okay,
so for new people out there, Savage seven seven rapid
fire questions, Stacy will get one and only one skip,
so she has to choose that wisely. Are we ready? Yea,
(41:36):
all right? First question, are there any episodes based on
your real life? Uh? There are parts of every episode
that are based on my real life? Who dang it,
I should have said which one, but I didn't. Okay,
Next question, if you could pick any actor actress to
(41:58):
just come in and drop in on an episode? Who
would you love to have come in? Kate Blanchett. I
mean she's available, right, it's only nominated for oscars and stuff, right,
right right, I'll put her on my list. I'll kill
her too. Okay. The scene that we talked about, the
(42:20):
spicy scene earlier. If you not that you wanted to
replace him, but if you could replace him with one
major actor, who would you see in that role? Just
the shower scene by Darling out of few moots, Well,
I would never replace it, right, No, we don't want
to replace you. This is just hypothetically speaking. I mean,
(42:42):
I'm having a Pedro Pascal moment right now. I'm freaking
love him. So yeah, I'm having a Pedro Pascal moment. Okay,
all right, we'll take it. Next question. An embarrassing moment
that happened on set, an embarrassing them and that outside. Well,
(43:06):
I mean I can tell you now that, like Adam
is talking about it, when we were figuring out the
prosthetic for that scene, there was a lot of sizing
that happens. I'll put it that way, okay, And you
pick from a model and then you have to see
it sort of up against the actor and see like
(43:29):
is this right or not. And so the first time
we did that, we were on location in like a restaurant,
and so we just went to the bathroom basically of
the restaurant that we're in it with me and it
was I think a Casey, our intimacy coordinator was there
and I think also the director, and we were like, okay,
(43:50):
that's way too big. So let me just say that
what ended up being in the show is sized down
from where we started. Okay, so we've learned something about
Stacey and her um. But that moment in the bathroom,
I mean, look, Adam and I have worked together before.
We worked on Unreal together, so we're old friends. So
(44:12):
that helped make it slightly less embarrassing. But it was,
you know, not your your usual day in the office.
I'll put it that way. Could you imagine someone in
the next doll? No, that's not that's not big enough.
That's awesome, all right. Next question, if you had to
write a story or a show around me, what would
(44:33):
that look like? Oh, my god, fears fears in spiritual.
I mean, look, there's a version of sex Life, you know,
our spinoff that's that's you. That is sex Life, you know,
and I'd me up, sister, and it would be very funny, too,
(44:54):
very funny. You know, we put in little things here
and there in our show, you know, just sort of
cut the drama. But I just feel like your comedy
is so front and center of who you are, which
is so wonderful. So that would be fun to follow
as well. All right, we have to make that one happen.
I like that. I was gonna say, a little sex,
a lot of sex, a little funny, and some life
in life. I mean, I guess that's like, you know,
(45:15):
it's in there somewhere, all right. Yeah, next question, if
you were not a writer producer, what would you would
you be doing? Well, look, when I was a kid,
I thought it was going to be an astronaut. Okay,
and I in high school, I was a little nerdy,
and I won this competition where you come up with
(45:37):
an experiment to put on the Space shutow. This is
back when the Space Shuttle was going up, and and
I got to go down to the Goddard Space Flight
Center in Maryland and present my paper to to NASA. Now,
I will say, because clearly these kinds of themes of
the show have been in my blood for a long time.
The experiment that I was pitching them was whether you
(45:59):
could have a baby in space, and it was a
way to see, like would like the embryo develop um properly,
but like the step back from that when they were
like design an experiment, it did start with what happens
if you have sex in space? And then I was like, well,
how can we have an experiment I'm pitching NASA from this,
and then it went to like, oh yeah, baby with
(46:19):
the baby develop normally. But but I I'm fascinated with space.
There's Nilon musk um joke in season two, Like I
just I'm fascinated with SpaceX, you know, and and the
New Frontier or whatever, so that that would be a
total dream. I mean, Stacy's in school, like with these
major projects, I'm like smelling my scratch stiff sticker like that,
(46:42):
I get the great one. I love it. I love
it all right. Something you wish that you could take back?
Oh man, uh, well, I will stay. There was a
boyfriend in high school who I then dated a little
(47:03):
bit into college, who I I didn't treat as well
as I would have liked to have treated, you know,
and I was a little bit uh, boy crazy when
I got to college, and so it wasn't so good
at keeping a long distance relationship going. And but I
strung him along a little bit, and you know, he
has a really special place in my heart and I
(47:25):
feel I feel really bad about how I treated him.
And do you want to give initials? And this is
like your public apology? Does he know? Do you think
if he's hearing this right now, do you think he
would know? I'm horrified. If he's hearing it right now,
he's probably like, stop it, like, stop trying to reach out,
stop trying to be friends in social media, whatever, leave
(47:46):
me the flout. Okay, so, Stacy, we are going to
allow this to be your apology. Don't carry that any longer.
Oh my god, you're good. I just yeah, I just know,
I know. I know what I did, and I'm smarter
now and I wouldn't do the same thing again. And
and he's an amazing, amazing guy and ladies and gentlemen,
(48:09):
is the character? No, I was kidding. Yeah, I won't ask,
I won't. We won't confirm the team he came before,
the brads that were the real brads. Okay, I got it. Well,
is there anything else coming out that you would like
to tell people about. UM, I'm working on a new
(48:31):
script for Netflix that I'm not supposed to talk about. UM,
but it also explores similar themes about women and love
and life and I'm very excited about that. And UM,
you know, we'll see if there's a season three of
Sex Life, that would be great. Well give me those numbers.
The Sea Fam will help you. We will take care
of you. Oh great, Thank you, Stacy. I really enjoyed.
(48:55):
I'd love to have you back on after season three.
I'd love to new with it. Yep, and your new
project that we're not going to talk about. I really
really enjoyed having you on here. I love what you
stand for. I just adore you and think that you
are helping not just a few, but the masses get
back in touch with just getting back alive again and
(49:17):
not suppressed everything. So thank you for what you're doing,
and thank you for coming up. You're welcome. Thank you
so much. It was a joy. NI. Well that's a
rap for us. Make sure you guys are subscribing and
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