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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Hey, everybody, This is Kevin Bacon and I am back
here with Ask Kevin Almost Anything episode. Hi Stacy, Hi,
good to see you. I'm here with Stacy Houston, who
is the executive director the stellar executive director of Is
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that what your title is?
Speaker 2 (00:24):
I always forget it is actually the proper way to
say thank you.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
I'm glad I'm being proper today of six degrees dot org,
which is our foundation, and we've tried to, you know,
take the podcast, which has been great having celebrity guests
on it talking about the things that they really care about.
But we're just putting a little spin audit here and
Stacey came up with a cool idea of Ask Kevin
(00:49):
Almost Anything. And I look forward to these because, boy,
you never know what's going to be coming at you.
How are you doing? How are the girls?
Speaker 2 (01:08):
They're doing great. You know. This past winter was fun
for toddlers. I think everyone was sick at least once
a week. But we've survibed. Right, there's a light at
the end of the tunnel. What about you?
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Yeah, good, busy, busy as you know. I saw you
in California for like one brief moment. You were out
there doing some work with six degrees. And I was
out there shooting one day on a movie. It's funny,
you know, I've done this a few times. I'm not
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gonna say what the movie is, but I have done
this a few times on films where you know, the
movie is great and it just needs maybe one more
little adjustment or one more little scene. I actually have
a and so you have to do a reshoot or
or or additional footage is really more what it's like.
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And I was doing that, and it made me think about,
UH when we did a reshoot on a picture called Footloose,
and what happened was the ending of Footloose, you know,
has this big kind of dance sequence, and in the
original UH, when we originally shot it in Utah, it
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went into slow motion. And when they tested the movie,
everybody said, we don't want slow motion. We want to
see people, you know, getting down. We want to we
want to feel the music and and see everybody rocking out.
So we went to Uh, California and a year later
and reshot the ending, but not in slow motion, with
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a new new choreography and new dancers and a whole
bunch of new things, and it's it definitely, you know,
helped the move be a lot, I think. But the
other thing about it is that as an actor it's
very hard because you really, at least me, I don't
know about other people. When I when I finish a character,
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I just want to say goodbye to him, you know,
like I've been so in his world that like I
don't I just want to like let it go. So
they step back into his shoes like a year later,
when my head is already in a whole other place.
It's always just a strange kind of adjustment.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
Yeah, no, I can only imagine. So that iconic scene
at the end, you're telling me it was actually shot
in California that yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
Yeah, So like I walk into the the same so
like I come in, I'm trying to remember what it is,
but I come into the barn. I guess it's a
barn or whatever it is, and I say, let's dance, scream,
let's dance. And at that moment in the original version,
everything went to slow motion. And the whole end of
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the movie was like was like slow motion. Yeah, and
they had all this crazy stuff like slow motion glitter
dropping and like lights around the lenses and stuff like that.
And it just didn't. It was romantic, but it didn't rock,
you know. And and so yeah, we went back out
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to LA They hired a bunch of dancers. Everybody got
like their hair, you know, back in the same look
that you know. Chris Penn was there and I guess
and yeah, I guess Lori Singer was there too. I'm
trying to remember she must have been. And and then
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we shot that whole you know ending. Yeah, it was
completely know anyway, I nobody asked me that this is
supposed to be, you know, ask kept almost anything. This
is me just going off on things that I haven't
been asked. But I just I'm just gonna say anyway,
I just had to get it off your chat. I
just had to get my friend sorry to drone on
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about that. You get okay? Thank you? Well should we
what do you say? Should we go to our first question?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Let's do it?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Hello there, mister Bacon A long time, don't speak Digsy.
We met about twenty years ago in a pup. All
I wanted for Christmas was you. The question that I
have is are you going to be branching out with
six degrees? I'm bringing it to the UK or is
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it just going to be a Philly thing forever?
Speaker 1 (05:50):
First off, I'd love to be one of those guys
that could like like completely locate Digsie's accent, you know,
like I love accents, right, he sounds maybe, I don't know,
maybe northern England, but I don't know. You know, it's
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I'll never forget. When I was a kid, I got
this record that was a record of an album of
British dialects, and it had the map of England and
you look at this tiny, you know, relatively tiny space
in between Scotland and Ireland and Wales and England. There's
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hundreds of accents. You know, it's so interesting. We don't
really have that so much in this country because I
think we I'm not quite sure why it is, but
it was a It's very much like in England. It's
a very much of a class thing, a way of
identifying you know, who is from where, and you know,
kind of like what you're statuses. I'm just going to
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do a quick plug because I can. Speaking of class.
There's this amazing movie Origin that is really based on
a book and about the cast system. Basically have you
seen it? Did you see it?
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah? Yeah, I actually got to go to it streaming
of it with ABA.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
What did what? Did you think?
Speaker 2 (07:29):
It blew me away? I mean, I, I mean, it's
obviously very sobering film, right for lots of different reasons.
But the writer and the research that she did to
kind of look at class, the class system versus or
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the cast system, I should really say, versus just racism.
Like I thought it was really powerful and one of
those things that make the comversation broader, somehow broader, but
then also more defined and clear. Yeah, I was. I
was really blown away. I thought it was beautifully done.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I should mention that it's it's it is. It's not
a documentary. It's based on a it's an interesting thing.
Is it's based on a nonfiction No, yeah, a nonfiction book.
But she has kind of taken the writer's story, the
writer of that book, and shaped it into a narrative film.
But I agree with you. I thought it was just amazing. Anyway,
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back to Digsy in a pub somewhere in England. I
don't know, did we meet in a pub, maybe, you know,
twenty years ago in a pub. I mean, I've had
people multiple times tell me about encounters that we've had
that don't aren't necessary. I'd like to think that we
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did meet in the pub Digsie, I will. I'm just
going to say yes, but yeah, you know, it wouldn't
be the first time.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
I would be memorable. He seems like a like a
good time.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Yeah, yeah, maybe yeah, he does seem like a good time.
He does. And you know, first off, I love the UK.
I love London. I've spent a lot of time there.
I didn't for the whole first part of my my
my years, I didn't go to I didn't go to
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England until I was probably about I don't know it,
well into my thirties. And then when I did go,
I started going all the time. I did a couple
of movies there. I was an X Men First Class.
We shot that in London, so I was there for
months and months and months, and then also do commercials
over there. It's great. I miss it, you know, I
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haven't been there since the pandemic. And London to me,
you know, especially London, is it's like for a New Yorker,
it's such a great city because it's a walking city.
It's a you know, a subway city or the tube.
You know, there's a lot of different kinds of people
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that you're going to be bumping up against. Everything is
kind of moving in this there's this kind of energy
to it that really reminds me of New York. And
I will go out and walk, literally, I'll go out
and walk for four hours. In London, I'll just go
and go and go and find, you know, all kinds
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of cool things, and you know, not really even have
a direction. It's hard to have a direction because, you know,
because of the way that the you know, the city
was constructed back and I guess whatever it was Middle
Ages or something like that. I'm not that much of
a historian. You know, they just kind of put the
houses wherever they were, so, you know, streets, it's very
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hard to find your way around because each only lasts
like a block. It's like the name of a street,
you know, it's like Covington Street or something. It's only
a block long and then it ends and it has
another name and they don't. Yeah, there's no there's no grid,
you know, Yeah, there's no grid. Like that's the one different,
big difference between Philly and and uh and and uh
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and and London or New York. In London, you know,
you don't have numbered things. I mean it's a little
bit like I guess Greenwich Village is a little bit
like that, you know, sort of streets kind of intersecting,
and but London could be very confusing. Anyway, I love it,
And yes, I mean, well you should talk to that, Stacey.
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Just in terms of six degrees in our our reach.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, I mean we definitely although you're obviously a Philly
Needed and we love Philly Need too, a fair share
of work in Philly. Obviously, we reach across the whole
United States, and that's really just been because we believe
that there's a lot of really great global organizations and
we felt like the impact that we could make most
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intentionally was here in the United States, and a lot
of that had to do with like your projects and
other people that we work with. You know how we
often can kind of tie into that with social impact
activations and a lot of them are filmed or when
you're touring here in the United States. But with that
being said, big fan also of the UK, and we
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actually have a lot of followers and supporters both that
listen to the podcast and it's probably our second biggest market.
And then in terms of supporters for six degrees, we
have like a really nice chunk of supporters that are
actually in the UK. So I've always sawne that fascinating
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and and I know that you've done some work there
as well, so that that definitely helps. But there's some
great organizations that do work, you know, in the UK
and here in the US, and I think that's probably
a way to tie in and see if we can
do some greater good. But not opposed to it, for
just you know, have been so focused kind of on
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the US outside of a couple of activations that we
did that just went viral, right, Like I think like
that I Stay Home for campaign back in twenty twenty
was something that we couldn't even envisioned at the time
would have went so global. But we were all experiencing
a pandemic and everyone was being asked by their governments
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to do the same thing, right, And so that was
one of those exceptions to kind of our work transcending
the borders. But yeah, the UK is a very cool
place and definitely very socially conscious and they do a
lot of great.
Speaker 1 (13:51):
Work for sure, for sure. But I'm you know, obviously, Dixie,
you must be listening to the podcast if you know,
you know, came up with a question. So that's awesome.
I'm glad that we're reaching there and and thank you,
thank you for reaching out. And it's good good to
hear from my friends on the other side of the pond. Okay,
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so we got another question here. I think I will
read this one. Okay. So this is Linda Glenn and
what she says is every Halloween they play the old
scary movies. You were on Friday the thirteenth. You wore
speedos when everyone else wore shorts, and you dove into
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the water when everyone else jumped in. Did the directors
tell you to do this? There's one shot in your
speedos that doesn't leave much to the imagination. I love
your work. Oh boy, wow, all right, let's see how
do I respond to this. Well, first off, let me say, Linda,
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you know, in the eighties speedos were much more common. No,
this was actually the seventies that I think about it,
I mean, I think we shot that this one in
the in the seventies. Uh. You know, when I was
I used to have I remember after school i'd have
to go to the Why my mother made me go
to the y and takes swimming lessons, which I just hated.
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Was like the middle of winter and you'd have to
I'd have to walk down the street and go to
the why. But we always had tiny little bathing suits
that that was just what. That was, just what bathing
suits were. And when you watch the Olympics, of course
those guys all wear speedos, but they've just become so
out now, you know, nobody, nobody goes to the beach
and wears a speedo. I mean maybe they do, now,
maybe some people do, but yeah, yeah in Europe, Yeah, right,
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in Europe they do. That's true. That's true. Yeah, it's
just not an American thing, you know. So that so
I'm guessing that you're could be wrong, but I'm guessing
you're probably a lot younger than me, and so that
must look, you know, kind of weird to see that
in an old movie. The other thing about it is that,
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you know, at this point in my life, I can
kind of like pick my costumes a little bit more.
There's a costume designer, but of course, you know, I
have some input. But when I was doing Friday the Thirteenth,
I'm just starting now. I just put on what they
gave me. You know, it wasn't like I was going
to say, oh no, no creative choices there I went
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board shorts that would not have you know, they would
have said shut up, get into your speedo immediately. I'll
tell you the other funny thing about that scene that
I remember. Now, this is a very low budget movie
Friday the Thirteenth, which is part of why it ended
up being, you know, such a hit and starting this
kind of slasher you know a lot of slasher movies
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that were made after that. You know, they spent so
little money on it, and it's made so much money
that everybody in Hollywood went, oh my god, this is
this is the golden ticket, right, we just will spend
nothing and we'll make a boatload of money. And uh,
that movie was shot in New Jersey and it was
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like October. So if you look at the lake that
were jumping in, the leaves are changing around the around
the thing. So it was for reezing. I mean, none
of us wanted to get into the water. And it
was absolutely I mean I thought we were, you know,
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going to get hypothermia. In fact, I think maybe some
some kid might have really gotten I don't know, I
can't remember, but I just remember it was. It felt
it felt almost dangerous, but it was. It was so cold,
but we had to of course pretend that we were
it was hot, and we were frolicking, and you know,
they had big lake.
Speaker 2 (17:56):
And then you chose to dive in.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I chose to dive in. By the way, this is
another thing that Linda is pointing out inadvertently, is that
I remember a few years ago there was like a
meme of how bad my dive was because to say,
I'm I'm not a diver by any stretch of the imagination,
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but I could have done better, or they could have
given me another shot, or you know. But I think
the whole thing was that our hair was supposed to
be dry or something like that. So so we had
to do it in one take. I don't know. We
didn't get multiple takes. But my dive is absolutely terrible.
If anybody wants to, you know, go back and look
at it. You could see a very small bathing suit
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and a very bad dive. You know. That's that's what
that's my memory of of of that movie.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
And you were the first person to be killed, right,
and that was that.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Uh, Like I don't I'm not sure. I think I
don't know it's been to say that. I haven't seen
it in about forty years, but probably you.
Speaker 2 (19:13):
Know, it's like having you jump in like that is
like an intentional thing to be like this, this dude's
getting killed, you know, like.
Speaker 1 (19:24):
Well, right, but I'll tell you what is yes, that.
But the other thing is there was such a trope
in horror movies that continued forever, and that was that
if you did sex, if you had sex or did drugs,
you were definitely gonna die. That was like number one
because they always had this slightly kind of skewed morality
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to them, you know. And by the way, I love horror.
I mean, you know, it's been good to me, and
you know, I'm I'm a fan. I'm a consumer of
it myself. But you know, in the in the seventies,
certainly there was a an idea of like, you know,
the trashy, especially the trashy girls. You know, they're gonna
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they're gonna get it, you know. And in Friday the thirteenth,
I h had sex and smoked a joint. So the
floor they there was no way, yeah, yeah, there was
no way I was surviving. So the combination of the
speedo and the marijuana and the and the sex meant
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that I wasn't gonna stick around in that movie for
very long. No, not at all, Not at all.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yeah, I mean I had an older brother and sister
six and eight years older than me. I have an
older brother and sister, and they were watching horror movies.
And I remember like sneaking into the living room when
they were having sleepovers or staying up to like watch
horror movies. So I was watching horror way too young.
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But my brother had this Freddy Cougar Krueger like poster
on the outside of his bedroom door. Why I don't
know why on the outside not the inside. And as
a kid, I would always run down the hallway and
like I had to pass his room to get to
the main part of the house, and I remember just
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like bolting as a kid, and I'm like, why did
my parents just say, like, no, we kinda take that down.
They're like put it on the inside of the door,
you know. But it's like a vivid memory of just like.
Speaker 1 (21:31):
I don't know, Like, I don't know why they didn't
do that. They should have have no idea. They definitely
so that's sad. Poor little Stacy running down the hall
past Freddy Krueger. That breaks my ar.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
I mean for like a long time, I feel like it.
I'm sure if I asked man will now She's like, no, No,
that's like it was like a week or two, right,
But in my memory it was like all of my childhood.
I was running past Freddy Krueger.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Oh Man, that's funny. Running from Freddy. Yeah, like like
running many exactly like many before you and since wow.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
The next clip that we're going to play is from
a caller. Her name is Alexandra, and she called in
about an organization that is really close to her art,
So we'll play that now.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Hey, Kevin, my name is Alexandra, and I have absolutely
loved your podcast so far. I love listening to the
guests and listening to their stories. I love listening and
learning on how I can be an active citizen. I
really enjoyed that episode with well, both episodes with Mark
Bruffalo and Matthew McConaughey, they were fantastic. I think it
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would be really great to shed a light on the
special Olympics and maybe talk to Timothy Shreigrin. It's an
organization that I have been volunteering with for nearly a
decade and they just do such wonderful things, and involunteering
with them, I always smile, and I feel like we
could all use some smile. So I think it would
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be really awesome if you all shed a light on them.
Speaker 2 (23:13):
So yeah, I heard the name Shreiver, and obviously I
was like, hmm, I wonder if this is if he's
related to Maria Schreiber. And fun fact that I was
not aware of it. There's a really rich history about
the Special Olympics. And it was actually founded by Kennedy
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Did you know that.
Speaker 1 (23:35):
I had no idea. I had no idea. Wow, that's
so fascinating. Yeah, when was it?
Speaker 2 (23:44):
So it was back in nineteen sixty eight, So it
was actually JFK's sister. Okay, you nice Kennedy Schreiber, and
she's really a pioneer, and it was and it was
founded in Chicago. I think that's when they had their
first one. It was like the summer of nineteen sixty eight,
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which I thought was just a really fascinating fact. And
we did try to reach out to the Special Olympics
and Timothy Shreiver himself. We talked to their team. There
was a lot of travel on their schedule. So we'll
definitely share anything that we get along the way and
we'll drop it in the show notes.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
But yeah, cool, Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
The Special Olympics, what I kind of found most fascinating
and looking more into them is, you know, they they're
very similar to the Olympic Games in that way they
have like that every four years, so they'll have like
a Summer Olympics and a Winter Olympics, and they'll stagger
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them so that every two years there's one or the other. Okay,
so it's like mirrored in that type of way. And
I know, obviously that's an inclusion piece, right, so that
these athletes can take part in a very similar kind
of Olympic tournament to really showcase their talent every every
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four years. But they also kind of kick off with
that torch, you know, with the iconic torch ceremony where
you see people.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Do they use the same song? Do they use the
same song? They do? They do? They do?
Speaker 2 (25:36):
But they THEIRS is led and so you know, we
have kind of different leaders and icons and that sort
of thing globally that participate. THEIRS is led by law
enforcement specifically, and law enforcement uses it as a fundraiser
to really raise funds and awareness for the Special Olympic Games,
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which I thought was really really cool.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
That's so cool, that's so cool. Yeah, I mean, the
Special Olympics are incredible. I mean, when you think about it,
it's just, uh, it's just a germ of an idea.
Was just such an interesting idea, you know. And I
think that probably you know, the what the Special Olympics
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did was probably more impactful in terms of people, uh,
in terms of you know, like sharing and opening people's
minds to our fellow humans who are you know, neuro
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divergent in some way, you know what I mean, And
and that must have really I just think it's I
think it's just been I think it's really kind of
like in some ways probably you know, changed a lot
of people's thinking and a lot of stuff, you know,
in this world. And the other thing about it is,
you think I'd love to hear like how much it's grown,
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because when you think about nineteen sixty eight just in Chicago,
you know, it's probably like a tiny little thing. I
would think. You know, now it's global, right, global.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
Super global. They're in one hundred and ninety countries I
was reading, So it is truly a global.
Speaker 1 (27:25):
Movement in ninety countries.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Wow, And I mean you think about that. And this
is a cause that knows no border right or ethnicity
or age group. Like any person can you know, be
connected to somebody that has either disability or those that,
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like you said, are neurodivergent. And this opportunity, I think,
to inspire people to say yes, they can and should
be able to participate in the Athletic Games just like
anyone else is extremely important because it's not just promoting inclusion.
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But what I loved most about the organization is that
they really are focused on more acceptance and respect. So
it takes it further than just like Okay, let's make
a space and include them in this conversation or inclusion
them in this opportunity, but like, no, we should also
respect them and their should mean acceptance. And they really
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do a lot of this work through young people. So
they have what they call the Unified Champion Schools and
a Global Youth Activation Committee, and so these are young
people in Shooter heights and high schools that are really
taking part in the games and fundraising and supporting them
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and really educating like their fellow students and others on
the importance of it, which I think is powerful because
when things start with young people, we know from our work,
it can just be something that really resonates with with
more people and it can kind of go the distance.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
Yeah, that is super powerful. I mean also the fact
that it it has to do not just with how
many medals does your country get, you know, which can
kind of lean into a little of this sort of nationalism,
you know, sometimes in a good way, sometimes in a
weird way, and winning and losing and you know, bronzing
and silver ring and all that kind of stuff. But
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you know, it has a it's got an actual, you know,
social conscience, and I think that's that's really cool. Do
we know when the Special Olympics is? When it's is
this in twenty twenty four or is it in twenty.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Twenty Okay, that's that's a really good question.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
We should find out, I bet you. I'm sure if
we go to Special Olympics dot Org. I'm just gonna
throw it out there. Maybe I'm wrong, but you know, right,
I'm guessing there's a way to find out.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
So yeah, definitely put that information yeah, in the show
notes both the next Summer Olympics and Winter Olympics. Something
that you know, you hear about the Special Olympics a lot,
but I am. I live right in you know, outside
of Washington, d C. And Fair Facts where we're actually headquartered,
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held a Special Olympics just a couple of years ago,
I want to say. So I know that they have
them kind of all over the world, so we'll definitely
put that in the notes. They're always looking for volunteers
and people that can come alongside them to like like
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any Olympic games, right, They're just they need so many
people to help pull this off, and so we'll share
that information as well. But clearly a really great organization
to support, to get involved in. And the great thing
is that there's kind of chapters and supportive volunteer associations
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all over the world, so you should be able to
connect wherever you are, which is you know, really really special.
Speaker 1 (31:24):
That is great, very very special, so to speak. That
was fun. I really enjoyed that. Thank you to Christopher
Dingley also known as Digsie calling all the way from
the UK with with his question, and thank you also
to Linda Glenn with her slightly inappropriate question about Friday
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the thirteenth, and also to Alexandra to wrap with us
about the Special Olympics. I'm having a lot of fun
with these ask Kevin almost anything questions, and this has
definitely fallen into that category, so keep sending them in.
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You know. We were having a good time doing this
and Stacy, once again, thanks for hanging out with me.
Speaker 2 (32:18):
Happy to you see you next time. Hey guys, it's
Stacy again. So after that last episode, we actually did
hear back from the Special Olympics and the CEO, Mary Davis,
wanted to send a note about what the Special Olympics
means to her and so many others around the world.
Listen in.
Speaker 5 (32:39):
My name is Mary Davis. I'm the CEO of Special
Olympics International, and I started out in nineteen seventy eight
as a volunteer with Special Olympics program in Ireland. I
then went on to become the first National Director of
Special Olympics Ireland. We also host did a Were Games,
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first time the Games were held outside of the United
States in two thousand and three, and I was the
chief Executive of the organizing committee for those Games. After that,
I went on to become the President and Managing Director
of Special Olympics C Europe Eurasia, and from there got
the call to come to headquarters in Washington to be
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the Global CEO. So here I am today.
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